Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, a potential CNN op on the new Pope, Joe Biden goes on The View, and Mark Wayne Mullen discusses whether or not we should defund Planned Parenthood and should we raise taxes on the rich.
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00:00:04.000Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, a potential op they're going to run with this new pope.
00:00:08.000Joe Biden goes on The View, and Mark Wayne Mullen, we discuss whether or not we're going to defund Planet Parenthood, and should we raise taxes on the rich?
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00:02:10.000And while I'm very encouraged by this specific Pope's prior comments on the sanctity of life, which is great, I am a little worried that there's going to be a tension point.
00:03:25.000And this is, I have to admittedly do a better job of this on college campuses when the deconstructionists show up.
00:03:33.000The deconstructionists show up who are not Christian, who are not even believing in God, and they want to challenge me about what the Bible says about some very specific verse that they don't even believe in.
00:03:46.000And this is what's going to happen with the Pope, is that you're going to have...
00:03:52.000Liberal left-wing journalists, media members, and politicians to say, by the way, I'm not Christian and I hate your religion, but you should listen to the Pope because he agrees with me politically.
00:04:05.000The headline is going to say on CNN.com, the American Pope says you have to love migrants.
00:04:11.000That means you have to support open borders.
00:04:14.000There's pressure on the left when their people of faith are rebuked on abortion.
00:04:20.000Or transgenderism, or something that is a lot more morally clear-cut than immigration laws.
00:04:25.000And if we're honest, immigration is a very complicated topic in the Bible.
00:05:30.000Because secure walls symbolized, you could say, dignity, identity, and God's providence and protection.
00:05:39.000Nehemiah 2.13 says, Now understand that compassion and control are not always opposites.
00:05:54.000Welcoming in a stranger when you have the capacity to do so is, of course, biblical and loving, when it benefits your own people.
00:06:04.000It says also in the end of Deuteronomy, there is a warning about that if you allow too many people into your nation, they will become your masters.
00:06:12.000But also in the context of order, vetting, and purpose.
00:06:17.000The conclusion of all this is that you must understand that unlike abortion or transgenderism or marriage, immigration takes a little bit of nuance.
00:06:31.000But what is going to be coming down the pike, I guarantee it, is a psychological media operation and narrative to try to say, oh, there's an American pope, therefore you must stop the deportations.
00:06:43.000There's an American pope, therefore you must stop building the wall.
00:06:59.000But more importantly, they're going to try to divide and destabilize and use whatever the Pope says as a way to slow down the sovereignty movement of the West.
00:07:14.000The Pope definitely, amongst Catholics, carries extra legitimacy.
00:07:19.000Catholics believe that he was selected by the Holy Spirit yesterday.
00:07:23.000They believe the Holy Spirit, which is God, was the reason that Mr. Prevost became Pope Leo XIV.
00:07:31.000I'm not here to criticize or even debate Catholics' view of that.
00:07:57.000To the globalist World Economic Forum order, as we've seen in countries like Argentina, in countries like Hungary, increasingly in Germany, France has had its little dance with it, in Italy.
00:08:11.000In some ways, this selection, whether intentional or unintentional, and I'm not going to get into the weeds of criticizing it by any means.
00:08:22.000It will be used, this is a fact, whether or not it was the intent or not is irrelevant because we can never know.
00:08:28.000It will be used as a way to slow down populism and nationalism.
00:08:32.000As to try to say, look, I am from America, I am from the greatest country.
00:08:36.000You see, one of the ways that people were able to delegitimize what Pope Francis had to say is, ah, he's Argentinian, he's Marxist, he's from this other country.
00:08:45.000But if he's from Chicago, which again, come on, but if he's from America, Because let's be honest, America is the central player of the world dynamic right now.
00:08:57.000And unfortunately, this Pope will probably say a lot of great things on abortion and transgenderism that will be totally ignored.
00:09:05.000He'll probably go on and on and on with encyclicals about how abortion is terrible and transgenderism is terrible.
00:09:12.000But then he'll say one thing as such as, well, we need to love the stranger and bring in...
00:09:19.000The foreigner, op, boom, front page, Donald Trump rebuked by America's pope.
00:09:23.000Be ready for the op and don't fall for it when it comes.
00:09:27.000And I said this yesterday, the one thing I think that's been lacking from popes of this era, John Paul II spoke out against Marxism, and he did a wonderful job of it.
00:09:38.000Now it's time for a pope to speak out against Mohammedism, to speak out against Mohammedism and Marxism that is coming throughout the West.
00:09:47.000If he does that, I will be his biggest fan.
00:09:50.000But understand the opt that they're going to play.
00:09:53.000Congratulations to all Catholics, and you are living through history of the first American pope.
00:09:58.000But be wise as a serpent, gentle as a dove, but wise as a serpent, prudent in all things, and know what is coming next.
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00:11:31.000I don't even know if it's worth clarifying, Charlie, because I was on a different show, on the Benny Johnson Show, and I was just giving a lay of the land on Ed Martin, just saying, you know, the situation we're running up against, it's going to be difficult.
00:11:45.000You know, I was very positive when we were talking about Pete, when we were talking about Tulsi, Bobby, Cash.
00:11:50.000I said from the get-go, every time we talked, we will get them across the finish line.
00:11:54.000My job is to understand the feel of the conference, to understand where everybody's at.
00:12:00.000And I was very straight on the show by saying, hey, it's going to be difficult.
00:13:09.000And it's too bad he's not a DSDC-US attorney.
00:13:12.000But now, for everyone to understand, the breaking news is now Judge Jeanine has been announced as the temporary DC-US attorney, who's going to be quite a fighter, too.
00:14:17.000I mean, obviously she's said a lot of stuff that the Libs are going to blow out of proportion, but...
00:14:21.000I don't think there's any issue at all getting her confirmed.
00:14:24.000So, Senator, let's now get—we only have two minutes in this segment here.
00:14:28.000I want to now shift gears here to the United Kingdom trade deal.
00:14:31.000I think that we're going to see more and more trade deals come down.
00:14:35.000And I know that a lot of folks that you represent in Oklahoma have been wanting to see, hey, are we going to be able to export our products?
00:14:41.000Talk about President Trump's brilliant approach to try to open up American exports and how that applies to the people of Oklahoma and the entire country.
00:14:49.000Well, first of all, the president's approach was spot on by not trying to do one country at a time, but by doing all countries at a time, putting everybody on notice.
00:14:58.000Otherwise, you would have just played whack-a-moe.
00:15:00.000Every time you worked a deal out with somebody else, they would just win around you by getting another country to bring their product into the United States.
00:15:07.000By the president focusing on everybody at once, putting everybody on notice, and then telling the U.K. he wanted them to be first in, he delivered a trade deal that everybody else was going to start.
00:15:22.000We need to do business with the United States more than we need to do business with them.
00:16:07.000Now, you take the left media, and they're going to tell you the doomsday and everything's falling and we're in recession.
00:16:13.000They sure didn't report about yesterday about how good the market did and about everybody reversing their comments about we're headed to a recession.
00:16:19.000But in Oklahoma, even as I traveled around the state, even as I talked to my constituents, I'm telling you, they all appreciated President Trump because we knew where he was going.
00:16:27.000Let me tell you guys more about the sponsor and the underwriter of the campus tour.
00:17:29.000So the White House, President Trump was calling Speaker Johnson saying, hey, you should be considering possibly raising the top tax rate to 40%.
00:17:44.000I pay enough tax to the federal government.
00:17:46.000And I say this because our program is doing very well, and the podcast is as hot as a pistol, praise God, and our radio show is doing well.
00:17:53.000So I'll be at the top tax bracket, so praise God.
00:17:56.000So I'll be at the top tax bracket, and I'll be honest, Senator, I'm okay with...
00:18:01.000Begrudgingly okay, going to 40% at the top tax bracket if it comes with serious spending cuts and if the middle class gets a tax cut.
00:18:10.000Now, the reason I pose that is, is there any willingness for that amongst the conference, or is there going to be an overly ideological view of, nope, no tax cuts under own circumstances?
00:18:21.000Because I could go on further about that, but to be perfectly honest, I think our debt and deficit...
00:18:28.000Is worthy of trying to strike a deal of, okay, you pay a little bit more in taxes.
00:18:32.000No one likes that, but we get serious spending cuts.
00:18:34.000Where are we at, and what do you think of that approach, Senator?
00:18:37.000So, I hate raising taxes, to be honest with you.
00:18:41.000D.C. doesn't need any more taxes up here.
00:18:43.000We need to figure out how to control our spending.
00:18:45.000But if you want to break this down, right now that top bracket is around 37%.
00:18:49.000What they're proposing is going to 39%.
00:18:56.000What that is for, it's not necessarily to change the brackets below us.
00:19:03.000It's to keep all the brackets actually where they're at today.
00:19:07.000But then it's going to go in and do the no tax, no tips, no tax on manufacturing overtime, and no tax on Social Security.
00:19:16.000So we have to offset those if we're going to pay down the deficit, actually have the cut we need.
00:19:23.000And you just don't have room in there.
00:19:25.000If you're going to do $1.5 trillion in cut, and by the way, this will be for the physical year of FY26, not like Congress typically does.
00:21:05.000In a different circumstance, I would be arguing, actually, for less taxes on wealthy people if we were not on the verge of a fiscal and financial apocalypse.
00:21:27.000Middle-class people have been so crushed by this economy, by Biden, by inflation.
00:21:32.000And we have to pay a little bit more, and then we get spending cuts.
00:21:36.000But what would be disappointing, Senator, is if we raise taxes on people like you and I, and there is no spending cuts that also come alongside of it.
00:21:47.000That would be all of that political capital for nothing.
00:22:08.000Most of them actually voted for Kamala Harris.
00:22:10.000The wealthiest counties in America almost all voted for Democrats.
00:22:13.000They're increasingly the coastal elite.
00:22:16.000So what spending cuts do you think we will get?
00:22:19.000And that we can't expect, not just the Doge stuff, but real significant spending reform to try to get the deficit under a trillion dollars.
00:22:27.000So, first of all, under a trillion dollars sounds ridiculous.
00:22:30.000We need to balance the budget, but that's accurate.
00:22:33.000There's a couple of things that we need to be looking at that I would like to see if we're going to raise the taxes on anybody.
00:22:38.000Let's say once we get the budget balanced, that we start using tariffs.
00:22:46.000To start paying off the national debt.
00:22:49.000And then at some point when we get our spending under control, then we're able to go in there and lower the tax brackets for everybody, use the tariffs that are coming in to offset that cost of lost revenue from the taxes.
00:23:03.000When we start looking at reforms, you have to start looking at the size of government.
00:23:09.000We have been a bloated government for decades, but really since COVID.
00:23:15.000If you start looking at the numbers, the amount of employees we hired post-COVID, if we can go back to 2019 employment rates.
00:23:26.000And then you start understanding the amount of technology that we can install to help offset that.
00:23:31.000I mean, every company in America right now is using technology to cut their payroll to some degree.
00:23:37.000And then the ones that are there, they're able to raise the money.
00:23:42.000Not the money, but raise the profitability of the company to be able to reinvest and continue to grow.
00:23:48.000So if we're going to use that same technology, use it inside the government.
00:23:51.000So what we're looking at real hard is investing in technology, being able to bring down the bloated workforce by 5% to 10%, and then we're able to use technology to go in there and expose the waste and the fraud that's through every one of these agencies.
00:24:07.000And President Trump is leading this by putting...
00:24:09.000Putting the Doge personnel in place to be able to audit these agencies.
00:24:17.000Because you have entrenched people that are working in a very cush job that doesn't even have to show up the last three years, and the top earners are making $3,000 to $350,000 a year, which, great, I'm glad you're able to make good money, but work for your position.
00:24:34.000And we haven't seen government working for the people, so we need to change our direction and make sure we get laser-focused on delivering it and still run lean and mean.
00:24:44.000Last thought here, Senator, then I'll let you run.
00:24:47.000And I'm just told that the rescission vote died in the House.
00:24:51.000We're going to track that in real time.
00:24:55.000I was on the phone yesterday with some high-ranking House Republicans, and they say, Charlie, we can't put defunding Planned Parenthood in the rescission package or reconciliation bill because of the midterms.
00:25:21.000They just clearly do not want to do it.
00:25:24.000And that's just one of many things that it can apply to.
00:25:27.000Senator, number one, a point of encouragement.
00:25:29.000Please tell your colleagues why on earth are they so worried about the next election if they're not going to fulfill the mandate from the prior election?
00:25:42.000What do we, the grassroots, have to do to try to get this done, not just defunding Planned Parenthood, but some of the things that we ran on and that we hope to expect so that this doesn't end up being just a lackluster reconciliation bill that blows this great opportunity?
00:26:01.000And as a father of six kids, three adopted, I thank God almost every day that the mothers that were able to give me these three kids that I can love and they love me, And was brave enough to go through the pregnancy.
00:26:20.000What Planned Parenthood has done is they've weaved themselves into our community healthcare centers.
00:26:26.000A lot of our rural areas that doesn't have a hospital, doesn't have 24-7 urgent care, or any really medical, they run the only...
00:26:39.000Community health care center in maybe the entire county and trying to separate those around.
00:26:45.000And so when people start saying funding Planned Parenthood, what ends up happening is through these community health care centers that doesn't deliver abortion at all, the problem is we feel like Planned Parenthood is using that money that is typically derived by Medicaid and Medicare recipients because it's rural areas.
00:27:04.000They're following that money into their abortion clinics.
00:27:10.000One, you just completely get them out of it where they can't accept Medicare and Medicaid at these community health centers, which would be pretty devastating to the rural areas.
00:27:17.000Or you get them completely out of business altogether.
00:27:20.000But then there's supposed to be a clear line between the funding between the two.
00:27:25.000And the Democrats have allowed that funding to mesh together during COVID.
00:27:57.000Why is it that pregnancy crisis centers in Tulsa and in Edmond?
00:28:01.000And in Oklahoma City, which are these Christian, amazing communities there, they don't get any funding from the federal government.
00:28:08.000So if these pregnancy crisis centers that do this incredible work that are saving lives don't get money, why should those that butcher lives get money?
00:28:15.000So I think you should kick them out completely.
00:28:17.000And look, the audience is on fire about this one.
00:28:21.000So Senator, we're counting on you to bring that one home.
00:28:26.000We're fortunate in Oklahoma that we have a lot of tribes that are raising their hand saying we'll take the community health center, so we're good in Oklahoma.
00:28:32.000But that's the issue of helping states.
00:28:33.000I want to say this real quick, Charlie.
00:28:35.000Thank you for going to the universities.
00:28:36.000You went to Stillwater where my kids wrestle for Oklahoma State.
00:28:40.000What you do after you leave, you don't see.
00:28:42.000But the ability for these individuals that may have been hiding underneath the rock because they're MAGA and because universities are not, they're usually woke, you give them a backbone to be able to stand up because you're brave enough to go there first, take the fight to the campus, and then all these ones that are actually true MAGA, they have the ability to stand up after you leave.
00:29:01.000And there's been a movement at Oklahoma State since you left.
00:30:52.000How do you lead the world without having the best health care in the world?
00:30:57.000How do you lead the world without having the best education in the world?
00:31:00.000How do you lead the world when you don't have that done?
00:31:03.000Honestly, one thing that we should do, we as conservatives, we're going to make fun of him for the next couple of minutes.
00:31:08.000And this was our commander-in-chief, and praise the Lord we didn't go to nuclear war and there was a group of invisible Biden staffers running the country.
00:31:30.000If Joe Biden would have resigned in July and given the presidency to Kamala Harris, we would have had some trouble.
00:31:37.000Her as president would have been a much different thing.
00:31:40.000And I will say, remember, Blake, I keep score.
00:31:43.000At the RNC in Milwaukee, I was the only one on our thought crime panel where I predicted that Joe Biden would remain president and stay through the entire term.
00:31:53.000And everyone said, no way, he's going to resign and she'll take the office.