00:01:17.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:38.000Charlie, thanks for having me on here.
00:01:40.000So I have so much I want to talk to you about, and I just want to start with this.
00:01:44.000It's a lesson for everyone listening on the podcast and everyone out there that when good people come under attack that are friends of yours, you need to not allow bad people to tell you what to do.
00:02:40.000Well, it started on January 9th, actually.
00:02:44.000You know, it's kind of funny because you had, I've always backed our great president Donald Trump.
00:02:48.000And then, but all of a sudden, things were different.
00:02:51.000The attacks start on January 9th because I get this new piece of evidence that explains everything through these machines and this attack.
00:03:00.000Well, from that point, you know, all of the retailers get, you know, these bots and trolls come out, these hired hit groups, the cancel culture starts.
00:03:14.000They attacked, Charlie, they attacked everything all the way to Australia, from Australia to the UK to Israel.
00:03:20.000Anybody that had association with me, they went after, whether it was vendors I dealt with, whether it was manufacturing or suppliers or just people that maybe a relative.
00:03:32.000I think they went back to my second grade class and said, did you hang out with him?
00:03:53.000They all succumb to this cancel culture.
00:03:56.000And then there's the ones that wanted to, obviously, sucker buck from Facebook and Twitter and the YouTubes and the Vimeos and the Googles.
00:04:19.000Because I'm out there that somebody brought me something that we should all want to look at, you know?
00:04:23.000And it had happened the year before too.
00:04:25.000And it had happened three other times to my pillow and me.
00:04:29.000But the first time I want everyone to understand this.
00:04:32.000You know, when I met Donald Trump in the summer of 2016, I came out of crack addiction in 2009.
00:04:39.000I didn't know anything about politics.
00:04:41.000And I, you know, I didn't even think they affected me.
00:04:45.000Well, we know now they affect everything we do.
00:04:48.000But I go to this meeting and by a divine appointment in the summer of 2016 on August 15th, meet with him.
00:04:56.000I don't know when a president, I've never met a president before, but all I know is I walked out of that meeting and said, he's going to be the greatest president ever.
00:05:22.000And well, then I get back to Minnesota and I do this press release saying I just had a meeting with Donald Trump, not even what we talked about or that I liked what we talked about.
00:05:31.000And we have that and it was crickets for about half a day.
00:05:35.000And then all of a sudden, if he goes, what did you do?
00:05:37.000And I'm going, what are we talking about?
00:05:39.000All over social media, they called me a racist.
00:05:42.000They called me, I mean, I'm going, I felt horrible.
00:05:46.000And then the Better Business Bureau, which are real people, very crooked organization, Better Business Bureau, which started in Minnesota, took my pillow from an A plus to an F.
00:05:55.000And because I ran my ads too long, I'm going, I mean, if you didn't like my ads, you didn't have to move it to an F, but that's fantastic.
00:06:04.000Then we had, then the next time that I texted, so then I got used to, I'm going, wow, these weren't real people.
00:06:09.000These were attacks, hired groups to attack.
00:06:12.000And then it happened again at the Rose Garden speech last year when I was there.
00:06:17.000I'm out there, which by the way, the president had no idea I was going to say those remarks.
00:06:21.000And I flipped the paper over and I said, you mind if I say something off the cup?
00:06:25.000And I talked about, you know, in this time we were in spending time in our Bibles, you know, spending time with our families, getting back in the word.
00:06:32.000You'd think I would have killed someone or something.
00:06:34.000It was all over worldwide news for a week.
00:06:42.000You know, we got a little china virus going on here.
00:06:44.000Maybe we should spend some time in prayer.
00:06:48.000And so my company, you know, one thing is, and then we were, and then of course, when people brought me cures and all kinds of stuff that worked, and I went on Anderson Cooper and he attacked me for 24 minutes.
00:07:59.000It's very small percent of the people that are out there canceling us out.
00:08:03.000These are the big entities, the big tech.
00:08:07.000And then, of course, then you get into lawfare, which Dominion and all them did and started suing over 200 lawsuits where journalists can't even do their jobs anymore.
00:08:37.000And even back when I ran, when they would attack me back then, bots and trolls would attack me.
00:08:43.000Every time Tucker or Laura or Sean would say something, all they're going, boycott on social media, boycott, boycott Mike Lindell and my pillow and all the ads that would put on there, all the companies.
00:09:18.000I kept the business separate from, you know, if I had to do that every time someone badmouths or says something wrong, I wouldn't have anywhere to advertise.
00:09:24.000That's called freedom of speech, our First Amendment rights.
00:09:27.000So speaking of coordinated attacks, you have been saying for months, and I want you to walk through in as much detail as you can share, that you stumbled across this evidence and then you have a new series of information that proves in your words a technological attack against America.
00:09:50.000So everybody knows from November 4th on, we all woke up in the twilight zone going, what do you mean?
00:09:57.000Where, you know, we haven't had a winner yet and Donald Trump, all of a sudden he goes, you go to bed, he's a 10 to 1 favorite, and all you wake up and he's losing.
00:10:04.000And Arizona takes a week to count the last 1%.
00:10:07.000Michigan drops 100 and some thousand votes for Biden in the middle of the night.
00:10:11.000And we're all going, what did they tell us?
00:10:13.000Well, those mail-in votes, you know, every boy, we can't have mail-in votes more.
00:10:19.000They weren't counted in the middle of the night on the 4th.
00:10:21.000They were counted on the morning of the 3rd.
00:10:23.000So when I dove into all the deviations and stuff, I'm going, when I started looking at everything in November, December, I'm going, this is so, this is millions upon millions of votes.
00:10:33.000It could only be done with computers or machines.
00:10:36.000But I didn't have anything to back that.
00:12:00.000China attacked us and flip these votes so, but I wouldn't let up because I wanted to get it there.
00:12:05.000So on the january 15th, when we get it to the, when I get to the White House, I was also delivering papers for a lawyer and very famous a martial Law.
00:12:14.000And i'm outside the White House right, and there's a, there's a camera up there where the Washington POST took a picture.
00:12:19.000And I look, i'm on the phone with my son and they come tumbling down the hill like a herd of cattle, all the journalists tripping over each other, and they all stop like right at the edge of the West Wing there, like a bunch of sheep.
00:12:30.000They stop and I go, I go, I gotta go, Darren.
00:12:40.000I'm going to go back in the White House and you'll find something real nice to write about me.
00:12:43.000Well, they did okay, and but if that hadn't happened.
00:12:48.000That martial law piece of paper that that lawyer put on there, that's what kept it in the news and the attacks, because they, they didn't want to hear about any of this evidence.
00:12:58.000And it was every day Mike, you lost four more retailers.
00:13:48.000They validated, said this is real, validated what Mike, not everyone has said yes, what they're, what they are, is stuff you can't read off of a computer.
00:13:59.000They're called packet captures okay, and and that then you, you take that.
00:14:04.000If you're a cyber guy, that's like having the um, it's like having if you and I Charlie, took a picture and you know, let's say it was 1975 and we were standing by Mount Rushmore and we take this picture, back then you couldn't dock your pictures.
00:14:18.000That would be forever captured in time as long as you didn't lose the picture, do you agree?
00:14:23.000So you have this picture, but here, these packet captures are even better.
00:14:41.000It tells you exactly what happened, what computer it came from uh, in this case uh, the ip address, what building, where it goes, what it hacked into.
00:14:51.000It's like having a little movie and you're capturing what it did.
00:14:54.000In this case, let's just do, on a um, one Packet would say, 7 000 votes from Donald Trump to Biden Boom, that's captured.
00:15:02.000It's not subjective, you can't, Can't, argue it.
00:15:05.000It's like saying, this is a, this is a cop.
00:19:01.000Even even if they wanted to post the evidence I had because I gave it to a lot of them, they couldn't because their bosses wouldn't let them.
00:20:01.000China attacked us with these dope machines through the dominion, smart manic, let's not leave them all out, and uh, anyway.
00:20:07.000So now the thing is, i'm going, okay now, everybody knows, now we've decided we're going to do the big plan, the big reveal this was going to be, everybody, get the word out for the evidence.
00:20:17.000You know, I came up with Frankspeech.com.
00:20:20.000We, I saw I was telling everyone everybody, get the evidence out far and wide, share the movies, share absolutely nine zero, which I just came out with, share these, share these.
00:20:28.000Well, that's great, but we're going to do something even better.
00:20:32.000It's called a cyber symposium and we're inviting, we're going to bring it's kind of like, let's bring it, let's bring everybody and make this a worldwide media event where they're going to have to show up, maybe even Fox.
00:21:10.000I don't know, i'm not a cyber guy, I just know what you got to have.
00:21:13.000Okay, you know it doesn't matter, but you bring, we're bringing them all there by the hundreds and they're going to be there, and then it'll be a big event, three-day event, a big convention or maybe somewhat something like this.
00:21:26.000Then you're going to invite all the media in the world and when I say in the world, if they don't come to this, I mean it would be amazing.
00:21:34.000You know every media is going to be invited.
00:21:36.000So and then but here's the key then we're inviting and i'm going to get everybody.
00:21:40.000Once we have the location and the time it'll be early august probably um, but when we have that, i'm going to have everyone in this country.
00:21:48.000All you need to do is reach out to your congressmen, your senators, your legislators, your governors, even uh, Brian Camp and Doug Docey, um a, um and uh, um.
00:21:59.000I'm going to reach out to uh um, Alan Duke.
00:23:35.000And this comes out the other side, and everyone's going to go, whoa, whoa, it's real, right?
00:23:40.000But here, what we're going to go a step further.
00:23:42.000Then we're going to have the guys that take the, that capture the PCAPs, capture the packet captures, and they would not know this, right?
00:23:50.000So you're pulling it right off the internet there, and you're showing the packet capture, and it's beautiful.
00:23:57.000So some people might say that you can fake a PCAP, and this is not forensically audited, and there's no evidence, and the experts disagree.
00:24:08.000Tell us and me why that line of thinking is wrong.
00:24:11.000Well, that's a great question because it's wrong.
00:24:17.000But with the packet capture, and you can look it up, look it up yourself on the internet.
00:24:25.000And I've asked every, you can ask every cyber person you want, and they're going to say, if you have the packet capture, it's preserved at that moment in time.
00:25:48.000So that's what the experts are all going to say.
00:25:51.000One is you prove with the packet captures.
00:25:54.000If you have that, you don't need anything else.
00:25:57.000I asked the cyber guys, I said, if you get a cyber attack, now this guy working for the government, and if you get a cyber attack, and I said to him, and what's the number one thing you would want in a perfect world?
00:26:12.000And, but if you didn't have them, if you didn't have them, now you got to go another way to see who did it and all that.
00:26:19.000I, you know, i.e., um, what's going on in Maricopa County, a real audit with the machines, that with the um, the um, I know, all the machines, ballots, everything.
00:26:29.000You're coming at it from another, the routers, the routers, very important.
00:26:32.000That's why they didn't want to give up the routers down there.
00:26:34.000They just don't want to give up the routers because the routers will show who did it.
00:26:37.000It's like the forensic coming from another angle.
00:26:40.000So, when they do get these audits done, when they get done, it's going to match identical, like that, you know, like that one movie, identical.
00:26:48.000So, Mike, what you are saying, and you understand this, this is an enormous thing that you're saying.
00:26:53.000Yes, you're saying the biggest crime against humanity in history.
00:26:57.000This affects every and what's going on right now.
00:27:00.000I'm going to tell you, Charlie, a couple miracles that people do you know before the runoffs in Georgia that I prayed, I had churches praying that the that they, if I was a marketer for the, you realize China used the Democrat Party.
00:27:11.000The Democrats warned of this, they warned of it.
00:27:14.000Kamala Harris, Amy Klobuchar, they all warned us about the machine that that's going to steal the act.
00:27:19.000They just happened to be chose by the China to do that, to take it.
00:27:22.000Now, when you had the miracle that happened was with the Georgia runoff, I said, if I'm a marketer for them, I would have said, give them one of the Republicans back because we already have compromised senators anyway, three of them.
00:27:36.000But if we get, if they gave one back, we wouldn't all be talking here.
00:28:11.000Another mistake, if I would have been them, their marketer, on the day of the inauguration, I would have said, You guys, we got some loudmouths over there still talking about the machines.
00:29:01.000So it's helping us because now when everybody looks at this and it's 9-0, everybody, when the Supreme Court makes it 9-0, I'll tell you another thing that's very important, marketing.
00:29:10.000When the Supreme Court would not look at the Texas case when it was 7-2, when that was 7-2, and they didn't look at, by the Constitution, they should have looked at it, but they did.
00:29:23.000Because back then, if I'm a Democrat and I always look at it from a marketing point of view, and I see that 7-2, I think I won the election.
00:29:31.000So I'm going, wow, even those justices Trump put in, they're fair.
00:29:37.000They're not just doing it for a political reason.
00:29:39.000They're, you know, that's what the Democrat.
00:29:41.000Now, when it's 9-0, when you have the liberals, you got corruption or the corrupt one, and you've got the other five or whatever, and they all vote 9-0.
00:29:52.000Everyone's going to go, well, we've all seen it.
00:29:55.000It's these packet captures, and you don't even give them an out.
00:29:58.000So even if you did have a liberal, if they can't sit or whoever it is on the bench, they got to go, hey, guys, I got to say it is what it is.
00:30:06.000So, Mike, you're saying this evidence is so overwhelming.
00:30:09.000It's so objective that anyone that understands cyber will be able to say and see what exactly because Mike, this is geopolitically altering stuff that you're saying.
00:30:21.000And this is saving the country and everybody should be happy.
00:31:54.000But the end of the world, it would be the end of the world either way, because if you never have an election again, i.e. through these machines, it's over.
00:32:35.000They would have had them anyway, but they had the machines.
00:32:38.000They could have through, if I'd have been them, I'd have threw a Republican back out there because they have the machines and nobody would have brought it up again.
00:32:44.000And everyone would have said, let's wait for 2022.
00:33:20.000Then I showed the media my credentials and the media you think would go after the governors, the Republican Governors Association, go after Camp and Doocy and them, but they didn't.
00:33:34.000But instead, they attack me going, now, does that make sense to everybody?
00:33:38.000Gee, you think that those two might be compromised somehow, that there's a little deviation going on?
00:33:44.000Why are they blocking their states from day one when they're Republicans and they're blocking an audit that we all should have found out about a long time ago?
00:33:51.000So Mike, do you sympathize with some people that say this is too sophisticated and massive to believe?
00:34:51.000Everybody watched what happened in November, December in disbelief, like the Twilight Zone, like in Georgia when Rassenberger, hope he goes to prison, when he's talking to the president and he says, well, you know, we got dead people, 8,000 dead people, 20,000 non-residents that voted, minors that voted.
00:36:22.000My guess right now, polling people, 80% of Republicans and at least 30% of Democrat.
00:36:28.000The 30% of Democrats over here, that's my audience.
00:36:31.000These guys, if you're on the, you're over here on the team that won a rig game, but you're over here, but you're seeing how horrific things are going.
00:36:41.000Decisions that are made out of the White House.
00:36:43.000I'll tell you right now, I want everybody.
00:36:45.000Here's what I tell everybody now about politics.
00:36:47.000And go back to your happy place, December of 2019.
00:38:37.000You know, you don't, any every single one of you, if you had what I had, would want it, would be sounding the alarm just like I am, whether it was, it didn't matter what party.
00:38:46.000And it's 100% is having a royal flush in a poker game, and you just be at, you have to play it.
00:39:02.000This will be a second chance for all your legislatures that didn't do their job, for the governors, the Secretary of States, which broke the Constitution.
00:40:19.000This is the greatest revival in history.
00:40:21.000This is the best time to be alive, I think, ever, because we have, oh, this is just going to change the course of history for everyone.
00:40:29.000We were within this of losing our world forever.
00:40:34.000The miracles that Donald Trump got so many voice, all you voting, that broke the algorithms of those machines on election night, where he would have won anyway in spite of the algorithms.
00:42:20.000And I want to thank all of you out there.
00:42:22.000It's like, I want to say one last thing.
00:42:24.000When people, with my pillow, 15 years after I invented, people used to say, How can you have this much passion about a pillow this far this 15 years later?
00:42:33.000It was because of testimonials, people coming up to me, and it made me feel good helping people.
00:42:38.000Well, I'm telling you, with this election thing, you know what makes me feel good is everybody's support.