The Charlie Kirk Show - May 22, 2023


Rename the NAACP! with Chadwick Moore


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Race hustler Al Charlatan, Al Sharpton reemerges to push a lie. Nothing new there. The NAACP doesn t want blacks to go to Florida. And then Chadwick Moore joins us to talk about the latest news from Tucker Carlson s departure.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, thank the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:00:01.000 Race hustler Al Charlatan, Al Sharpton, re-emerges to push a lie.
00:00:08.000 Nothing new there. 0.98
00:00:09.000 The NAACP doesn't want blacks to go to Florida.
00:00:12.000 And then Chadwick Moore joins us to talk about the latest news from Tucker Carlson's departure. 0.64
00:00:18.000 Sidelining, whatever it is.
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00:01:24.000 The NAACP, we don't hear much from the NAACP, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.
00:01:30.000 I always find it strange when I actually say the acronym because this calling somebody a colored person, I don't know, feels wrong.
00:01:38.000 Not exactly language I would use, but that's what the NAAC stand and the NAACP stands for.
00:01:45.000 And now they have changed their opinion on what's happening in Florida.
00:01:53.000 The NAACP came out over the weekend and they issued a travel advisory.
00:01:57.000 This is usually what they'll do.
00:01:58.000 Like, hey, Americans should be very careful going to Syria, or Americans should be very careful going to Iraq.
00:02:03.000 Americans should be very careful because of the bird flu.
00:02:06.000 Those are usually travel advisories, or Americans should be very careful going to El Salvador.
00:02:10.000 No, no, no.
00:02:11.000 The NAACP has, if anybody asks them, has issued a travel advisory to blacks saying Florida is openly hostile towards African Americans.
00:02:19.000 Okay, let me just stop here. 0.87
00:02:21.000 Is it African American or is it black?
00:02:23.000 Can we get some clarity?
00:02:27.000 Because I think it's black because they didn't say African American lives matter.
00:02:31.000 It changes.
00:02:32.000 It vacillates because they say the political correct is African American.
00:02:36.000 But it was Black Lives Matter, I thought.
00:02:38.000 Black voices matter.
00:02:39.000 So I can't get an answer, but the NAACP says African Americans.
00:02:45.000 It's the constantly changing rules. 1.00
00:02:46.000 It's like queer. 0.96
00:02:47.000 Queer used to be a slur, and now queer is the new gay.
00:02:53.000 Anyway, before traveling to Florida, please understand that the state of Florida devalues and marginalizes the contributions of and the challenges faced by African Americans and other communities of color.
00:03:06.000 Now, mind you, the head of the NAACP, the person who issued the statement is a man by the name of Leon Russell.
00:03:13.000 Leon Russell lives in Florida.
00:03:16.000 So Leon Russell, who living in Florida, is sending out a press release saying no one should come to Florida.
00:03:21.000 It's hostile here.
00:03:22.000 And it's all Ron DeSantis' fault. 0.74
00:03:24.000 Now, none of this is actually rooted in physical danger to blacks.
00:03:27.000 Instead, it's prompted by Florida's laws saying that the poison of critical race theory, the arsenic of race essentialism, and the diversity industrial complex pushing back against that stuff, somehow it's threatening to blacks.
00:03:42.000 By suppressing toxic race-based politics in Florida, the NAACP says that Ron DeSantis and other state lawmakers are engaged in hate-inspired leadership.
00:03:53.000 The NAACP could not, this entire press release couldn't be based on any dangers for actual blacks in Florida.
00:04:02.000 If it were, the command would be based on a total lie, obviously, because Florida is actually far safer than some of the deep blue cities.
00:04:10.000 Let's play cut one.
00:04:11.000 NAACP issuing a travel advisory for Florida, play cut one. 0.63
00:04:17.000 NAACP has issued a travel advisory for Florida, and it's urging the black community to avoid visiting or moving to the Sunshine State.
00:04:26.000 According to the statement, the advisory comes in direct response to Republican Governor Ron DeSantis', quote, aggressive attempts to erase black history.
00:04:35.000 And it calls Florida openly hostile toward African Americans, people of color, and the LGBTQ individuals.
00:04:42.000 Now, where are actually blacks in danger? 0.91
00:04:47.000 Now, Jacksonville is the most dangerous large city in Florida.
00:04:50.000 In 2022, it had 163 murders, certainly too many, as is often the case in large cities.
00:04:55.000 But let's compare Jacksonville, with its Republican mayor, soon-to-be Democrat mayor, unfortunately, with other cities.
00:05:02.000 How about Chicago?
00:05:03.000 Chicago is three times the size of Jacksonville, but has four times as many murders.
00:05:09.000 In every single one of the above cities, such as New Orleans, Milwaukee, Milwaukee has half as many people as Jacksonville, yet it logged 214 murders.
00:05:19.000 Why doesn't the NAACP issue a travel advisory for blacks going to mostly black cities?
00:05:26.000 They're actually more at danger from black-on-black gang-related violence in Atlanta, in Detroit, in Chicago, and Philadelphia than anywhere in Florida. 0.78
00:05:36.000 Where are blacks actually in most danger? 0.98
00:05:38.000 The answer is in black urban centers. 0.57
00:05:43.000 But no, the NAACP is doing this because they're pandering to their white liberal donors, and they don't even believe it.
00:05:49.000 Again, the head of the NAACP lives in Tampa, Florida.
00:05:51.000 Florida's a really nice place, actually.
00:05:52.000 DeSantis has done a great job.
00:05:55.000 Look, if the NAACP were serious about the well-being of black Americans, it would be encouraging them to actually move to Florida, where they have school choice, economic mobility, educational vouchers, low crime.
00:06:08.000 If more blacks from Chicago moved to Florida, they'd actually live a much better life.
00:06:14.000 But no, the NAACP is not doing this because their name has become a lie.
00:06:18.000 100 years ago, the NAACP existed to fight lynching and segregation.
00:06:22.000 Today, both are thankfully long gone.
00:06:25.000 But stripped of its core purpose, the NAACP was easy to prey on for political operatives.
00:06:31.000 The NAACP protects Democrat officeholders and Democrat political priorities regardless of the circumstances.
00:06:38.000 We're a decent country.
00:06:40.000 We are.
00:06:41.000 And there is a supply and demand problem when it comes to racism.
00:06:46.000 There is not nearly enough racism for all of the groups and the charlatans to be able to capitalize on.
00:06:55.000 There's actually less racism than ever before.
00:06:58.000 We're really decent to one another.
00:06:59.000 Racism that exists is racism against white people and racism against Asians.
00:07:04.000 It really should be called the National Association for the Advancement of the Democrat Party.
00:07:08.000 Now, kind of piggybacking on this is the Jordan Neely situation and Daniel Penny situation in New York.
00:07:19.000 Jordan Neely, the schizophrenic criminal who is threatening others, saying that he wanted to go back to prison.
00:07:26.000 He was ready to go back to prison, who was restrained by the hero, Daniel Penny.
00:07:31.000 Now Daniel Penny faces criminal charges.
00:07:33.000 There's now a racial element being introduced here that it was obviously racism.
00:07:39.000 Do you see how they're trying to lay the found work and the framework and the foundation for 2024 based on race politics?
00:07:45.000 Don't go to Florida because Iron DeSantis is a white supremacist, even though I live in Florida.
00:07:50.000 You see, it's George Floyd 2.0 in the streets of New York in a subway. 0.99
00:07:54.000 You just can't go anywhere without white people wanting to restrain black people. 0.73
00:07:58.000 This kind of insistence that you must view everything through tribal and sectarian lenses is so damaging to the republic. 0.96
00:08:07.000 We're a largely decent country. 0.84
00:08:09.000 There are not white supremacists walking the subways looking for blacks to try to put them in chokeholds.
00:08:16.000 There are not white supremacists walking the streets of Chicago exclaiming this is MAGA country to find low-talent hacks like Jussie Smollett as he's out in negative 10-degree weather in the streets of Chicago. 0.67
00:08:29.000 No, America is so systemically not racist.
00:08:32.000 We're the least racist country ever to exist in the history of the world, unless it's to white people or Asians. 0.72
00:08:36.000 We're the least racist country towards blacks that you have to fake your own hate crimes. 0.69
00:08:40.000 And these organizations have to justify themselves.
00:08:44.000 They are in a constant job justification, career justification, donation justification posture.
00:08:51.000 Why does the NAACP exist? 0.92
00:08:53.000 It's certainly not to help black people.
00:08:55.000 If it was to help black people, they'd be talking about getting more fathers in the home.
00:08:59.000 The fact that 75% of blacks are raised out of stable father, if it was actually about the National Association of Blacks for the Advancement of Blacks, they talk about educational mobility going against the cartel, that is the teacher unions, going against gang-related violence.
00:09:16.000 No, the NAACP is a super PAC for the Democrat Party.
00:09:23.000 You go to their website.
00:09:25.000 It says the NAACP is here to fight, leading the fight to end racial inequality.
00:09:33.000 And it has all these different things on their website in movement, in culture, in community.
00:09:37.000 It's nonsense.
00:09:39.000 If they were actually serious about fixing the black community, the NAACP would be running PSAs and workshops of why dads should not abandon the women they impregnate. 0.80
00:09:51.000 That simple. 0.55
00:09:52.000 Raise the child that you are now responsible for.
00:09:57.000 You do that, it will fix multiple other issues.
00:10:00.000 No, instead, it's racism's fault.
00:10:03.000 And you better believe the carnival barker, Al Sharpton, Al Charlatan, as we call him, he will never miss an opportunity. 0.63
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00:11:40.000 So, the race pimp, the carnival barker, the race hustler, Al Charlatan, who calls himself Al Sharpton, he will never miss an opportunity to try to capitalize on somebody else's pain. 0.85
00:11:51.000 Now, remember, Al Charlatan does the bidding of white liberals in the black community. 0.98
00:11:56.000 He does not represent blacks. 0.98
00:11:58.000 He doesn't.
00:11:58.000 He represents white liberals to try to say, I am the spokesperson for black America.
00:12:03.000 We do not have adequate time to do a full biography on the vile behavior, career of Al Sharpton.
00:12:14.000 Tawana Brawley is the first thing that comes to mind.
00:12:16.000 I mean, anywhere there's a situation, he shows up, he tries to get headlines, used to extort corporations.
00:12:22.000 He's a demagogue.
00:12:24.000 He does not want what is best for black America. 0.99
00:12:28.000 I think he's one of the most despicable people in public life. 0.98
00:12:32.000 And look, this I miss fat Al Sharpton. 0.92
00:12:35.000 I think he was a jollier person. 0.99
00:12:36.000 Now he's just nasty and mean and cruel. 0.97
00:12:39.000 So Al Sharpton, never missing an opportunity to miss an opportunity, shows up to the funeral of the schizophrenic criminal who unfortunately died in a chokehold. 0.98
00:12:51.000 Well, I don't even know what it was a chokehold.
00:12:52.000 It was a restraint.
00:12:53.000 That's a technical debate, but let's just say it was a restraint on the subway.
00:12:58.000 So Al Charlatan shows up and, of course, then falsely claims that Neely didn't threaten anyone.
00:13:05.000 Look, no one should celebrate the death of Neely.
00:13:07.000 Nobody wanted that situation, Daniel Penny included.
00:13:09.000 But as Aristotle said, justice is the messiest of all the virtues.
00:13:14.000 And when you have vigilante street citizen justice, which is what happens when the state does not do its job, you're going to have tragic outcomes.
00:13:22.000 It's unfortunate.
00:13:23.000 The city of New York is responsible for it, but Daniel Penny should not serve a day in prison.
00:13:28.000 Daniel Penny is a hero, period.
00:13:30.000 Hard stop.
00:13:32.000 And Al Sharpton comes out and says, Give me more money.
00:13:37.000 Give me more money.
00:13:38.000 Play cut 21.
00:13:40.000 There was no weapons.
00:13:42.000 There was no language.
00:13:43.000 Nobody was threatened.
00:13:45.000 And you grab him and put them in a chokehold.
00:13:49.000 Two people help hold them down.
00:13:54.000 And you go to the precinct and they let you go. 0.84
00:13:59.000 If Jordan was impersonating Elvis Presley, if Jordan had been a different race and they had him impersonating Elvis, and a black guy put Elvis impersonated in a chokehold, and two black guys held him down, they would not have let that black guy leave the precinct that night.
00:14:28.000 My name is Al Sharpton. 0.71
00:14:30.000 I've been relevant in decades.
00:14:31.000 Maybe this is my time.
00:14:34.000 You are a bad person, Al Sharpton. 1.00
00:14:36.000 You are a vile human being. 1.00
00:14:37.000 You are a disgusting pile of garbage. 1.00
00:14:39.000 You don't represent the black community. 1.00
00:14:41.000 These people clamoring as this kind of race tribal politics. 0.91
00:14:44.000 How about you tell the truth?
00:14:47.000 Daniel Penny was not walking in the subway saying, oh boy, I'm going to go find a Michael Jackson impersonator.
00:14:55.000 Was Al Sharpton really saying that if it was Elvis Presley, he wouldn't have.
00:15:02.000 There's nothing about impersonation.
00:15:04.000 Hey, Al Charlatan.
00:15:06.000 You know what Jordan Neely said?
00:15:08.000 Jordan Neely said, I'm ready to go back to jail.
00:15:12.000 Every third-party report is affirming Daniel Penny was a hero here.
00:15:16.000 Every third-party report, they're thanking him for doing this.
00:15:21.000 If a white schizophrenic criminal was put in a chokehold by a black Good Samaritan on a New York City subway and inadvertently died, do you think AOC would show up at this white man's funeral? 0.81
00:15:30.000 Of course not. 0.99
00:15:32.000 These are bigots. 0.98
00:15:34.000 And Al Charlatan has not cared about the well-being of black America his entire career. 0.96
00:15:40.000 Al Charlatan has made millions of dollars pimping out the idea of American racism.
00:15:47.000 He platoons in in his Schaufer car. 0.94
00:15:50.000 Let me just show you how disgusting this is.
00:15:52.000 This is his video with the Michael Jackson overlay of him kind of coming out of the car, people greeting him as if he's some sort of a dignitary, as if it's the man who's come from the heavens to come spend time with us.
00:16:09.000 Play cut 23.
00:16:18.000 Just so you know, it's Al Sharpton coming out.
00:16:21.000 You should be blessed by my presence.
00:16:23.000 I is a race hustler.
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00:17:29.000 Super interesting guest right now, Chadwick Moore, who is writing the authorized biography, just called Tucker.
00:17:39.000 And Chadwick, I got to ask you, you could not have timed a better time to kind of be in the mix in the rumor mill.
00:17:48.000 I mean, this is pretty amazing.
00:17:50.000 You are right into the center of one of the most interesting, drama-filled and confusing media stories of a generation.
00:17:57.000 Congratulations.
00:17:58.000 Thank you.
00:17:59.000 And we were already going to announce the book this time of year.
00:18:02.000 Of course, had to do a lot of rewriting, add a bunch of stuff with this bombshell news, of course, with his show being pulled from Fox.
00:18:09.000 And it's not actually an authorized biography.
00:18:11.000 I have total editorial independence in writing this book.
00:18:14.000 I hung out with Tucker, spent tons of time with him, had unprecedented access.
00:18:19.000 And, you know, but with the story that we put up on Twitter is, you're right, this is a fascinating media drama that's been unfolding.
00:18:27.000 And there's been a lot of rumors about why Fox pulled his show.
00:18:30.000 He is still employed by Fox, actually.
00:18:32.000 He's not fired.
00:18:33.000 He's still under contract.
00:18:34.000 He did nothing to violate his contract.
00:18:36.000 They did not give him a reason why he was fired.
00:18:39.000 They just called him and I'm sorry, not fired.
00:18:41.000 I keep saying that, but you know what I mean.
00:18:42.000 They did not give him a reason.
00:18:43.000 They just said, we're pulling your show off the air.
00:18:45.000 That's that.
00:18:46.000 He was left to speculate for a long time.
00:18:48.000 I was talking to him throughout this entire process over the last few weeks.
00:18:53.000 But I've had several sources independently confirm to me the reason.
00:18:58.000 And that is, they say, because it was a condition of the settlement with Dominion Voting Systems that they would take Tucker off the air.
00:19:05.000 Now, this is really fascinating stuff because Dominion has denied this, of course.
00:19:11.000 But Tucker, if people remember this, didn't really push the theory on his show about the systems being rigged.
00:19:16.000 And in fact, he pushed back more strongly than almost anyone on Fox against people like Sidney Powell, who he sort of thought was a whack job.
00:19:24.000 But someone, it appears, at Dominion, the small group of investors that owns Dominion, doesn't like him if this is true, and wanted him pulled off the air ahead of a presidential election.
00:19:35.000 Okay, so there's a lot there.
00:19:36.000 Let's just kind of go back in time to make sure we have the timeline correct.
00:19:39.000 Is it based on all your reporting and your conversations with Tucker correct that Tucker Carlson wakes up on Monday morning with zero warning, zero whispers?
00:19:49.000 He was planning his show, writing his monologue for the night, and he gets a phone call from who saying what?
00:19:55.000 So, correct. 0.94
00:19:56.000 He woke up.
00:19:57.000 He already wrote his monologue, which is unusual for him.
00:19:59.000 He usually is writing it just before he goes live.
00:20:02.000 And he'd already finished it, sent it to his producers, and he got a phone call from Fox News president Suzanne Scott, who told him that we're taking your show off the air.
00:20:10.000 Thank you very much.
00:20:11.000 At the same time, other Fox executives called his executive producer, Justin Wells, and told him the same news.
00:20:18.000 So it was a coordinated one, too.
00:20:20.000 Justin then immediately got, he was here in New York, got in a plane and flew down to see Tucker.
00:20:25.000 But that's what happens.
00:20:27.000 That's how all unfolded.
00:20:28.000 Okay, so when do you think, speculating, that decision was made?
00:20:33.000 Was it the Friday before?
00:20:35.000 Was it from the executive team?
00:20:36.000 Because it was obviously coordinated.
00:20:38.000 One, two, punch. 1.00
00:20:40.000 Based on your reporting, your research, when was it decided to pull the plug?
00:20:45.000 Or was it decided in a verbal agreement with a voting machine company eight days prior?
00:20:51.000 So what my sources believe to be the case is that it was decided the day.
00:20:56.000 They told me moments before Dominion and Fox were set to go to trial.
00:21:01.000 And the reason why they did not, Fox did not want to go to trial.
00:21:05.000 And my source said because they did not want Rupert Murdoch to testify, which he would have had to.
00:21:09.000 So my sources said this agreement was reached just moments before the trial was supposed to start.
00:21:12.000 So this would have been about six days, seven days before he got the call.
00:21:16.000 So there was some time in between, according to what sources have told me.
00:21:21.000 Okay, so I mean, and Tucker obviously said we'll be back on Monday and the Friday before his show.
00:21:25.000 So this was a blindside operation.
00:21:27.000 So he gets, that's interesting.
00:21:31.000 Actually, explain this to me.
00:21:31.000 Is he fired?
00:21:32.000 Is he still an employee of the Fox News Corporation?
00:21:35.000 So can you, can we get our vocabulary clear?
00:21:37.000 Because this is confusing to me.
00:21:39.000 Yes.
00:21:39.000 Yes, he is.
00:21:40.000 I slip up to and say fired a lot too, but he is still an employee of Fox News.
00:21:44.000 That's crazy.
00:21:45.000 He just the other day got his paycheck, he told me, as we were talking on the phone.
00:21:48.000 So he's still an employee of Fox News.
00:21:50.000 He's still under contract.
00:21:51.000 They really couldn't fire him from what I understand because he did nothing to violate his contract.
00:21:55.000 So, but, you know, of course, there's, I've not seen his contract, but you can imagine there's all sorts of non-competes in there, et cetera, et cetera.
00:22:03.000 So, but his announcement that he's going to be doing something on Twitter appears to fit in with his contract that he's not in violation of something.
00:22:13.000 And for various other reasons that he wanted to go to Twitter, which he told me about.
00:22:17.000 Okay, so he gets the news.
00:22:20.000 He's intentionally not leaving, right?
00:22:22.000 He's not leaving because then he would lose all leverage and they would still have a non-compete.
00:22:26.000 What do you know about his non-compete?
00:22:29.000 That would probably go till what, spring of 2025?
00:22:32.000 It is late 2024, is his concept.
00:22:36.000 For the next election.
00:22:38.000 For the election, yes.
00:22:39.000 And so the bombshell news that has been percolating, and you have sources that are confirming, and this is the big, big thing, right?
00:22:45.000 I want to make sure everyone understands how bizarre, unprecedented, and how pernicious this is.
00:22:50.000 A company that is in charge of counting our votes, Dominion, a tabulation company that is supposed to be nonpartisan, demanded a cable news channel basically sideline one of their hosts.
00:23:08.000 Have we ever seen anything like this, Chadwick?
00:23:10.000 I mean, this is a voting tabulation company. 0.57
00:23:13.000 What the heck?
00:23:15.000 It's unprecedented.
00:23:16.000 And I have heard from lawyers who've been dealing in the media sphere for decades, for 40 years.
00:23:23.000 The lawyers who deal with the Foxes and the CNNs and the MSNBCs out there.
00:23:27.000 And they, number one, they believe this to be the case as well, based on what they've heard on the gossip mill.
00:23:33.000 And number two, they have said they've never seen anything like it, that it's absolutely unprecedented.
00:23:38.000 Yeah, and so Dominion did not necessarily even have a bone to pick with Tucker, which then leads us to believe that other external forces who did want Tucker to be taken out, right?
00:23:48.000 Corporate power, neoliberals, Ukraine war, porn producers, you know, the vaccine people, they did they then work, we're speculating, but were they then in relationship with the Dominion people saying, hey, ask for the order, we'll take care of you.
00:24:06.000 I mean, let's build this out based on the information we have.
00:24:08.000 Is it fair to say that other external neoliberal forces via Dominion got Tucker sidelined?
00:24:18.000 I suppose it's possible.
00:24:19.000 So Dominion is owned by a private equity firm called Staple Street Capital.
00:24:23.000 And I mean, if this is true, and once again, they've denied it.
00:24:27.000 There was a video on Twitter a few days ago of a Fox News producer from another show who also said this.
00:24:34.000 I don't know this producer.
00:24:34.000 He's not one of my sources.
00:24:36.000 But if this is the case, I mean, it says to me that there's someone at that company or a group of people on that board that simply don't like Trump.
00:24:44.000 They don't like Trumpism.
00:24:45.000 You know, Tucker was obviously the biggest vector for Trumpism in the country.
00:24:51.000 There are a lot of people who have a lot of interest in who becomes president of the United States.
00:24:55.000 It's the most important job in the world.
00:24:56.000 And there's a lot of people who would do anything to control who does and who does not get that job.
00:25:01.000 So if this is indeed the case, this is, I believe, what we're looking at.
00:25:05.000 When it comes to, before this information came to me and became and was let out by other sources as well, there was a lot of speculation, obviously, that maybe someone had to do with the war in Ukraine, had to do with his reporting on J6, it had to do with his reporting on vaccines.
00:25:19.000 All of that, of course, is the reasons why he was so hated by both the establishment left and the right, because he did have a counter narrative on those issues.
00:25:27.000 But I asked him specifically if he thought any of those things had to do with it.
00:25:31.000 I asked him, particularly about Ukraine, because I sort of felt that maybe that was the key.
00:25:35.000 And he said to me that no, he said the Murdochs are very, they're in support of the war. 0.71
00:25:41.000 They support Zielinski.
00:25:42.000 They're big Zelensky guys.
00:25:43.000 But he said that they had told him personally, we disagree with you on the war, but we're not going to control what you have to say.
00:25:49.000 We're happy to disagree.
00:25:50.000 He said he was always thankful for that.
00:25:52.000 Fox never really, Fox said, no editorial say in what he put on the air.
00:25:55.000 He didn't have to get anything approved by anyone.
00:25:57.000 And so it's obvious that executives and other anchors at Fox have vastly different views than Tucker did, but everyone left him alone.
00:26:05.000 So there remains a lot of speculation about that.
00:26:07.000 Now, whether someone pressured this to happen because of any one of those issues, I'm certain is possible.
00:26:13.000 I mean, I think so.
00:26:15.000 The other question is: why are Republican states still going to use Dominion if Dominion, if, Dominion is demanding the firing of a cable television host who's a conservative?
00:26:31.000 Voting machine companies shouldn't be doing that, right?
00:26:34.000 Yeah, I'd be interested to see which states are using that and also, you know, what maybe they have some sort of a contract or what a legal situation is with them using those machines.
00:26:43.000 But it's certainly interesting.
00:26:45.000 And I wonder if people start talking about this.
00:26:48.000 So is the book available for pre-order just before I get too ahead of myself?
00:26:53.000 Yes, it is.
00:26:53.000 You can go to tuckerthebook.com.
00:26:55.000 You can order or anywhere that books are sold.
00:26:57.000 You can order it.
00:26:58.000 It'll be out July 18th, but you can pre-order it now.
00:27:01.000 Okay.
00:27:01.000 So, Chadwick, the other wrinkle of this, which makes this so interesting, is the leaks.
00:27:07.000 Based on your reporting or your talking, who do you think was the one that leaked Tucker's text message to the New York Times?
00:27:15.000 So my sources believe that it was someone at Fox who did that.
00:27:19.000 And they have mentioned that They didn't give me a name, but I've seen other people mention that woman, Irena, who had a Bergatti.
00:27:27.000 But, you know, Tucker was very hurt by that.
00:27:30.000 You know, he said that the New York Times, Fox appeared to smear him in the New York Times and say he was fired because he was racist.
00:27:36.000 And there's actually nothing racist in that text message.
00:27:39.000 That's the best thing that they have.
00:27:40.000 And I think it proves just how not racist Tucker is.
00:27:43.000 And but that, you know, he was very hurt.
00:27:46.000 He was like, I don't understand why they're trying to disparage me.
00:27:48.000 That's very hurtful and kicked me on the way out.
00:27:52.000 But people seem to think that it was someone at Fox who did release those text messages.
00:27:55.000 I have not, and I have no confirmation of that.
00:28:00.000 So, Chadwick, can you explain to us the Twitter strategy?
00:28:04.000 He's doing something on Twitter.
00:28:06.000 He said, we're going to now do our show.
00:28:07.000 And then we haven't heard anything for a couple of weeks.
00:28:10.000 What's going on there?
00:28:11.000 Right.
00:28:11.000 So Twitter is relaunching its video service.
00:28:14.000 Twitter's now branded as XCorp.
00:28:16.000 That's the name of the company.
00:28:17.000 And they're launching a video service, I believe, called X-Video that they want to compete with YouTube.
00:28:22.000 And it's going to be for long-form video content.
00:28:26.000 So this is where he has said and indicated that he's going to go next.
00:28:31.000 Basically, they're going to test it out, see what the product is like.
00:28:36.000 If they like it, stay there.
00:28:37.000 If not, maybe go somewhere else.
00:28:39.000 But that seems to be, that's the next step, which he's also announced himself on his Twitter page.
00:28:44.000 Yeah.
00:28:44.000 And so it's very interesting to see there.
00:28:47.000 So tell us about Tucker, the person.
00:28:49.000 I mean, getting to know him, being with his family.
00:28:51.000 What is it that you want our audience to learn about Tucker?
00:28:54.000 He is, as you mentioned before, he's very irreverent.
00:28:59.000 He's really funny, whip smart, but he's very deep and he's very sensitive.
00:29:04.000 He and his wife have, his wife Susie, have one of the most loving and wonderful relationships I've ever seen.
00:29:09.000 They are so in love with one another and they've been together since they were 15 years old, which is pretty amazing.
00:29:14.000 His family is wonderful.
00:29:15.000 His father is a really, really interesting guy, Dick Carlson.
00:29:18.000 And, you know, Tucker just wants to, having come, you know, one day we're sitting in his kitchen talking about trees for an hour, and it was just one of the best conversations I've ever had.
00:29:27.000 And he's just wildly entertaining.
00:29:28.000 It's interesting that even people on the left who know him and media professionals will comment on how they like him as a person.
00:29:34.000 You know, they might hate his views.
00:29:36.000 They might think he's the antichrist on television, but they admit that he's a really good, decent man in real life.
00:29:42.000 And to be fair, I've heard the same thing about people like Rachel Maddow, for one, who I mentioned in this book and his thoughts on her a lot.
00:29:50.000 So that's, I think, what anyone who meets Tucker says about him.
00:29:53.000 You know, I got him just being himself in this book for days and days that I spent with him and just riffing about this and that and being funny and being who he is.
00:30:02.000 So in closing here, we need more Tucker Carlson. 0.88
00:30:06.000 You know, if you were to guesstimate, do you think by Christmas we'll have Tucker liberated in some ways?
00:30:12.000 I mean, what are you, if you were just to say, hey, here's what I think is going to happen, what do you think that would be?
00:30:19.000 I'm really not sure.
00:30:20.000 And I don't have any specific knowledge.
00:30:22.000 I've only read reports that there might be a legal battle ensuing about this contract and what's happening.
00:30:28.000 And if Fox maybe violated their part of the contract.
00:30:32.000 So I really don't know.
00:30:33.000 I don't know if he's going to roll off the Twitter show tomorrow or in a year.
00:30:36.000 I don't know what's going to happen.
00:30:38.000 All right.
00:30:38.000 Well, check out the new book, Tucker by Chadwick Moore.
00:30:41.000 Chadwick, thanks so much.
00:30:43.000 Thanks, Charlie.
00:30:44.000 My pleasure.
00:30:44.000 Appreciate it.
00:30:45.000 Come back anytime.
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