The Charlie Kirk Show - Stopping the 2024 Coup with Rep. Jim Jordan

00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody, today in the Charlie Kirk Show, the active 2024 coup.

00:00:05.000 If you notice, you listen to our program, we talk about all the different coups that have been launched from Tony Blinken and the 50 Intel officials to the collusion with Twitter, Facebook, the direct interference with Zuckerbucks and Zuckerboxes.

00:00:20.000 But what are they planning for the next election?

00:00:23.000 And are we going to be taken by surprise?

00:00:24.000 No, we shouldn't be.

00:00:26.000 We need active measures, moves and countermoves.

00:00:29.000 And I want your theories.

00:00:31.000 What is the conspiracy they are thinking of launching for 2024?

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00:01:52.000 Reports are showing that Ron DeSantis is going to announce for president.

00:01:55.000 Any day now, Tim Scott and Chris Christie.

00:01:59.000 What is the constituency for Chris Christie?

00:02:02.000 And maybe even the governor of North Dakota, Doug Burnham, Bergham, Bill Gates' buddy, might run for president.

00:02:10.000 So you got all sorts of chatter here.

00:02:13.000 And we're going to talk about the horse race, obviously.

00:02:16.000 We have and we will talk about this candidate versus that candidate.

00:02:21.000 But let's recap the week.

00:02:23.000 We got a 300-page report from John Durham that showed that there was a seditious conspiracy put forward by James Comey, Peter Strzokstroke Smirk, Andy McCabe, Bruce and Nellior.

00:02:36.000 We've also learned with the FBI whistleblowers, which is one of the most powerful congressional hearings that I've seen in quite some time.

00:02:43.000 The FBI is operating as a Democrat super PAC with subpoena power and weapons to come after political dissidents they don't like, to go knock on the doors and raid, put people in handcuffs, operating like the Democrat Party's secret police.

00:03:00.000 We've also learned in the last couple weeks more about the FBI's involvement with social media companies.

00:03:06.000 We learned a couple months ago, thanks to Elon Musk, about the active measures that were put forward of the standing meeting they had with Yoel Roth.

00:03:15.000 We've learned, remember when Mark Zuckerberg said he was approached by the FBI, saying that there's going to be Russian disinformation?

00:03:22.000 We've learned in the last couple of weeks that Tony Blinken was the architect of the fraudulent Hunter Biden laptop cover-up, that John Brennan thought it was a good effort, even though there was zero evidence to support it.

00:03:36.000 So we have all this information and it's so unbelievably obvious, yet I have not heard a single commentator talk about the most important distillation of all these different data points.

00:03:48.000 And it's not about Tim Scott or Chris Christie, which is laughable and we could, and we might talk about it.

00:03:53.000 No, no, no, no.

00:03:53.000 It's so obvious.

00:03:54.000 It's right in front of us.

00:03:56.000 They're going to do it again.

00:03:58.000 And by it, we don't know.

00:03:59.000 And we're going to explore that together.

00:04:00.000 And I want you to email me, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:04:04.000 What is the it this time?

00:04:06.000 Right now, I guarantee you, there is a whiteboard in Aspen, Colorado, or in Reston, Virginia, in some Democrat strategist office in some big Democrat donor's home where they are war gaming this thing out.

00:04:21.000 You see, the Democrats, they have demonstrated repeated extra-constitutional efforts to interfere with elections, the consent of the governed, the will of the people, and they want to implement their figurehead.

00:04:34.000 They don't want elections to operate fairly.

00:04:37.000 They're going to lose.

00:04:38.000 They know that.

00:04:39.000 They know that the country is a center-right country, so they got to play games.

00:04:43.000 They got to suppress stories, smear slander.

00:04:46.000 They have to launch counterintelligence operations against candidates.

00:04:50.000 And so it's worth talking about what happened in 16.

00:04:53.000 It's worth talking about what happened in 20.

00:04:56.000 Remember, 16 was a failed coup and operation.

00:04:59.000 The fact that Trump was able to win is still creating deep-seated resentment.

00:05:05.000 But the most obvious thing is they're going to do it now.

00:05:08.000 In fact, they are in their war gaming posture right now.

00:05:13.000 They're trying to figure out: okay, is it more mail and ballots?

00:05:16.000 Is it suppressing these stories?

00:05:17.000 Is it trying to work with this tech company?

00:05:20.000 Is it AI?

00:05:21.000 Is it artificial intelligence?

00:05:22.000 Now, Donald Trump is coming out and he's saying, if I'm elected, I'm going to purge the intel agencies.

00:05:29.000 Well, let's just go back to Chuck Hugh Schumer.

00:05:30.000 Chuck Hugh Schumer, you need to be reminded of this.

00:05:33.000 If Donald Trump is running on a Drain the Swamp 2.0, a revenge campaign against the Intel agencies, you think the CIA and the FBI and the DHS are just going to take it?

00:05:44.000 They're going to interfere even more in the 2024 election.

00:05:48.000 Play Cut 88.

00:05:49.000 Take on the intelligence community.

00:05:51.000 They have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you. 0.99

00:05:54.000 So even for a practical, supposedly hard-nosed businessman, he's being really dumb to do this. 0.84

00:06:00.000 What do you think the intelligence community would do if they were moving? 0.91

00:06:03.000 I don't know, but from what I am told, they are very upset with how he has treated them and talked about them.

00:06:10.000 Oh, they're very upset.

00:06:12.000 The FBI is now a surveillance agency.

00:06:14.000 It's not a law enforcement agency.

00:06:16.000 Same with the CIA, Department of Homeland Security, all these clandestine organizations, both their nonprofit partners, their activist groups, and their billionaire donors.

00:06:24.000 There is an active 2024 coup happening right now.

00:06:28.000 And who's talking about it?

00:06:30.000 Oh, no, we're supposed to talk about Ron DeSantis v. Trump and Tim Scott and Chris Christie and Glenn Young might run and the North Dakota governor might run.

00:06:38.000 And where is Nikki Haley?

00:06:39.000 Enough.

00:06:40.000 That's fine.

00:06:41.000 The horse race is interesting.

00:06:42.000 We could talk about it.

00:06:44.000 You might be able to learn things ideologically and philosophically about where the party is going.

00:06:48.000 But the more important thing is, what are they planning and what are we doing to stop it?

00:06:52.000 And the answer is nothing.

00:06:54.000 Okay, we got some whistleblowers.

00:06:55.000 That's important.

00:06:56.000 We're going to highlight them.

00:06:58.000 But they're going to be moving at a rapid pace to interfere with and change the 2024 election.

00:07:04.000 Is it going to be a new COVID variant, more lockdowns, a pandemic 2.0?

00:07:09.000 Now, Twitter being liberated under Elon Musk's control takes one of their partners, one of the allies of the Intel agencies off the table.

00:07:16.000 That's a positive thing.

00:07:18.000 You see, if we go back to 2020, the equation was lock down the country, keep people in fear, put the COVID deaths on television nonstop, have Floyd Apalooza burn down the country, demoralize the base, get people, almost create a pressure release valve election, mass mail and ballots. 0.53

00:07:35.000 And then the Hunter Biden laptop was the story that was not supposed to happen, but they suppressed it through the fake letter of the 50 intel agencies.

00:07:43.000 They worked with the social media companies because they prepped them and primed them.

00:07:47.000 And now we know that this was wargamed at the Aspen Institute.

00:07:53.000 They're wargaming again.

00:07:54.000 You think the intel agencies and the Democrats are just going to sit on the sidelines of a Trump 2.0 movement?

00:08:01.000 So what is it?

00:08:02.000 What is the coup going to be in 2024?

00:08:06.000 Allow me to speculate, and I'd love your thoughts.

00:08:09.000 Number one, I think Donald Trump is going to be facing multiple indictments in different jurisdictions for many different things.

00:08:17.000 You look at the timing of the Alvin Bragg case.

00:08:21.000 It is timed to a T for election interference.

00:08:24.000 The fact that they have punted the hearings all the way to December, they want Donald Trump to have to face active trial in the summer of 2024.

00:08:35.000 They want Donald Trump to have to be in the courtroom to be able to call him a felon by the time ballots drop.

00:08:42.000 You think Fannie Willis in Georgia is just going to back off?

00:08:47.000 I think we should anticipate very heavy charges, of course, all nonsensical, coming after Donald Trump in this summer.

00:08:54.000 What about Jack Smith at DOJ?

00:08:57.000 You see, they can't keep on using the same playbook.

00:09:00.000 They will use mass mail and ballot signature verification.

00:09:02.000 They're going to try to administer an unconstitutional election. 0.80

00:09:05.000 They're going to have their ballot chasers and their mules. 0.96

00:09:07.000 They're going to outspend us on TV.

00:09:09.000 You see, elections are no longer about how the people feel.

00:09:12.000 Elections are a game that the regime interferes with and changes the components, changes the inputs, and changes the formula.

00:09:22.000 They're wargaming it right now.

00:09:24.000 And while conservative media says, oh, look how unpopular Joe Biden is and he can't even walk downstairs, all that is fine and it's proper, but no, no, no, no.

00:09:33.000 Let's identify the coup before it happens and then ask, is there anything we can do about it?

00:09:41.000 They are laying the groundwork for electoral college shenanigans.

00:09:46.000 Remember the 2020 story?

00:09:51.000 The shadow campaign that saved the 2020 election?

00:09:55.000 They're planning a shadow campaign right now.

00:09:58.000 They're planning a subterranean effort right now.

00:10:01.000 And if we're able to spot it ahead of time and expose it, it might preempt their unconstitutional, probably illegal effort to interfere with the 2024 election.

00:10:12.000 But this is priority number one.

00:10:14.000 This matters a lot more than Chris Christie running for the presidency.

00:10:18.000 That's uninteresting.

00:10:19.000 That's boring to me.

00:10:20.000 I do not want to all of a sudden have the 2024 election not go our way.

00:10:25.000 And then six years later, we have a Durham Report 2.0 and we say, wow, wow, that was really bad.

00:10:33.000 Christopher Wray launched a counterintelligence investigation and Jack Smith authorized on little evidence and the Democrats will laugh and they'll say, but we got power and you didn't.

00:10:45.000 This is very important.

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00:10:46.000 I want your theories.

00:10:48.000 What does the seditious conspiracy of 2024 look like?

00:10:52.000 What is the active coup?

00:10:53.000 The sooner we can identify and spot it, we might be able to stop it.

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00:12:02.000 Looking backwards can be helpful, but it's not everything.

00:12:05.000 This is currently happening.

00:12:07.000 They're having these conversations.

00:12:10.000 They're seeing how unpopular the regime is.

00:12:12.000 They're seeing a new coalition be built of moms and dads and parents and pushing back against the perverts party.

00:12:20.000 They see the border wide open.

00:12:22.000 By they, they're worried.

00:12:24.000 The regime is worried.

00:12:25.000 The people want to hold on to power are worried.

00:12:27.000 And so if Donald Trump ends up being the nominee, which it looks like, they're going to have a playbook ready for him.

00:12:32.000 They're going to have a blueprint ready for him, tailored right for him.

00:12:36.000 And one of the ways they're the working theory is multiple indictments so that they just weigh him down.

00:12:43.000 They make his candidacy heavy.

00:12:45.000 They weigh him down legally.

00:12:47.000 They weigh him down reputationally.

00:12:49.000 But you better believe they're going to try to go after Elon Musk, too.

00:12:52.000 My other working theory is that Elon is going to be target of criminal investigations, civil lawsuits.

00:12:58.000 They're going to try to weigh down Elon and Twitter to try to get him into a place of compliance.

00:13:03.000 See, we have to war game this stuff out.

00:13:05.000 And, you know, we had a great email here from a really terrific listener from Chicago.

00:13:11.000 And he wrote, he said, Charlie, so what's the RNC's war game?

00:13:14.000 I said, what?

00:13:16.000 You think they war game?

00:13:18.000 You think that there's a plan?

00:13:20.000 I could say this by being in for a decade.

00:13:22.000 There is no plan.

00:13:23.000 There's hope.

00:13:25.000 Oh, I hope people show up.

00:13:26.000 Let's go knock on a bunch of doors maybe and run some ads.

00:13:29.000 No, the Democrats are down with precision.

00:13:34.000 The Democrats operate in precision politics.

00:13:38.000 We operate in abstractions.

00:13:42.000 Well, our message is going to get it.

00:13:43.000 You know, see, machine politics has precision to it.

00:13:49.000 It's like a sniper rifle.

00:13:50.000 We're going to hit this. 0.94

00:13:51.000 We're going to hit that.

00:13:53.000 We're like a frisbee.

00:13:54.000 Oh, I have no idea where it's going to go.

00:13:57.000 Wow, that was interesting.

00:14:00.000 I can't believe we won.

00:14:02.000 The Democrats don't waste their time with throwing a frisbee around.

00:14:06.000 No, no, no, no.

00:14:07.000 They're far too focused because for them, this is everything.

00:14:11.000 For us, politics is kind of this inconvenient stumbling block.

00:14:15.000 We'd rather get involved in our churches and our families and build businesses.

00:14:18.000 For Democrats, this is their livelihood.

00:14:20.000 This is their identity.

00:14:22.000 This is their meaning.

00:14:24.000 This is their teleological purpose for existence.

00:14:27.000 This is everything.

00:14:28.000 For us, it's like, oh, boy, we got to get together and convince people to give money.

00:14:31.000 Democrats are enthusiastic to give money to politics.

00:14:34.000 For them, it's like tithing for a water project in sub-Saharan Africa.

00:14:38.000 For them, it's like sending missionaries to Sri Lanka.

00:14:40.000 They get excited.

00:14:42.000 There's this lust for power.

00:14:44.000 There's this religious and evangelical zeal Democrats have for politics because they live very empty and meaningless lives, but politics gives them meaning.

00:14:54.000 It's their why.

00:14:55.000 Our why as conservatives and freedom lovers are, you know, my why is to raise good kids and to get more people to love the Lord.

00:15:02.000 My why is to convince people to love the country, to educate.

00:15:06.000 For us, politics, we just kind of shrug our shoulders.

00:15:09.000 We're like, oh boy, here we go.

00:15:11.000 And I get it, by the way, because it's messy and it's divisive.

00:15:14.000 It's all these different things, but it is totally necessary.

00:15:16.000 Democrats have a different attitude.

00:15:18.000 For them, politics is a blood sport of meaning.

00:15:23.000 They get excited.

00:15:24.000 They get joyous.

00:15:25.000 It fills their existential void, at least temporarily.

00:15:30.000 And then they have to do it again and they have to do it again.

00:15:31.000 They have to do it again.

00:15:32.000 And realize by the time they're 78 or 82 years old, like Joe Biden, he looks around and he says, is this all there is?

00:15:39.000 And that's why Joe Biden is a very bitter man because he's dedicated his whole life to just one more election and one more crony contract and one more cover-up.

00:15:48.000 It's no different than an alcoholic.

00:15:51.000 No different.

00:15:52.000 Same sort of addictive behavior you see with alcohol, alcoholics, or drug addicts.

00:15:56.000 Just one more dopamine hit.

00:15:57.000 Just one more election.

00:15:58.000 Just one more.

00:15:59.000 And by the time you get to the top of the ladder, you have no soul.

00:16:02.000 You're a broken person.

00:16:03.000 And that is Joe Biden. 0.99

00:16:04.000 Joe Biden has a soul, but his soul has been unbelievably suppressed, in my personal opinion, through decades of immoral, deceitful, and treacherous behavior. 0.98

00:16:13.000 He's a shell of a man.

00:16:15.000 So what are they doing now?

00:16:17.000 Republicans are not wargaming.

00:16:18.000 I have tried time and time again to try to bring and convene people together.

00:16:22.000 I was sitting with some very, very powerful donors, and I said, well, what's the plan?

00:16:25.000 They said, well, the plan needs to be to make sure we draft good candidates and that we get our messaging right.

00:16:32.000 I said, you guys still think this is the 1996 election.

00:16:36.000 You still think this is the majority that Newt Gingrich was able to win when people voted on issues.

00:16:42.000 This is about the plumbing of elections, the machinery.

00:16:44.000 This is about the DOJ coming in at a last-minute surprise.

00:16:48.000 This is about the FBI spying on political dissidents.

00:16:51.000 This is about crossfire hurricane and social media suppression.

00:16:53.000 This is about what if they do another COVID, another lockdown?

00:16:57.000 What if they do more mask mandates and school closures?

00:17:00.000 That's the way we have to be thinking.

00:17:02.000 Not just about, well, we need to get more independents in Fulton County to be worried about inflation.

00:17:09.000 Yeah, yeah, that stuff matters.

00:17:10.000 You know what matters more in my estimation and your opinion?

00:17:14.000 What is the active coup that they are planning?

00:17:17.000 And I do not hear that kind of introspection or chatter on the American right.

00:17:21.000 Instead, it's, wow, look, Tim Scott's running.

00:17:24.000 Whatever.

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00:18:29.000 Joining us now is Congressman Jim Jordan, who's been doing an excellent job, a superb job, a courageous job in exposing the treachery of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

00:18:39.000 Congressman, thank you for making time chair of the House Judiciary Committee.

00:18:42.000 Congressman, can you just give us a Spark Notes version, a summary of what we have learned in the committee hearing, especially yesterday?

00:18:50.000 Great whistleblowers have come forward, told us about things like the school board memorandum where they were treating moms and dads as if they were domestic terrorists, come forward and talk to us about pro-lifers praying at a clinic who've been targeted.

00:19:04.000 And of course, the Catholic memo, the radical traditional Catholic, if you're a pro-life, pro-Family Catholic, they define you as radical.

00:19:10.000 They're trying to put sources inside the church.

00:19:11.000 So they come forward, tell us those kind of things that are going on that are wrong.

00:19:16.000 And because they were brave enough to stick to the Constitution, uphold their oath, abide by their conscience, frankly, they get harassed, they get intimidated, they get retaliated against.

00:19:28.000 It's like they're trying to be crushed by the FBI, and yet they're brave enough to come forward and tell their story yesterday.

00:19:34.000 So that was the real takeaway.

00:19:37.000 You tell the truth, the FBI comes after you.

00:19:39.000 But God bless these guys for coming forward and sharing it with us, the valuable information that they have.

00:19:44.000 Yeah, so what is some of that information?

00:19:46.000 I mean, for example, we had Stephen Freed on the program where he was talking about the intimidation.

00:19:52.000 I mean, one of the most powerful testimonies was one of the patriots that testified said that the FBI tricked him into moving across the country and selling their house and then left them out in the cold.

00:20:04.000 I mean, the cruelty here, Congressman, is remarkable.

00:20:07.000 Garrett O'Boyle, six years in serving our country, 101st airborne, decorated for his service to our country.

00:20:16.000 Then, as a police officer, then joins the FBI.

00:20:18.000 He's in the Kansas office.

00:20:19.000 He is Kansas City office.

00:20:21.000 He is selected for a new unit they're standing up because of his good work.

00:20:26.000 And because he shared information about those subjects I just mentioned, they suspend his clearance.

00:20:33.000 And when you get your clearance suspended in the FBI, you can't get paid.

00:20:37.000 It is in fact just taking away your health care.

00:20:41.000 So they did that, but they waited to do that.

00:20:44.000 The day he arrives, his stuff has been moved from Kansas to Quantico, Virginia.

00:20:48.000 The day he arrives, that day, they tell him your clearance has been suspended.

00:20:53.000 You will not be getting pay.

00:20:54.000 You will not be having health insurance.

00:20:56.000 And he's got a family, four children.

00:20:58.000 One of his children was two weeks old, newborn, can't get their clothes, can't get their winter coats.

00:21:03.000 I mean, that's what they did to this guy.

00:21:05.000 And he's a tough guy, as you would expect.

00:21:07.000 Yeah, he's a total tough guy.

00:21:09.000 The emotion he displayed when he related that story, I think, is the emotion any dad, any father, any husband would display when that happens to you.

00:21:17.000 Has the FBI signaled to you in any way, either through subtle threats, intimidation, or through back channeling, that this sort of these hearings are bothering them or is part of a kind of a pattern of humiliation of their pattern of behavior?

00:21:31.000 Have they tried to remedy some of them?

00:21:33.000 Is there any sort of inside baseball you can give us, or has your staff been reached out to, or has it just been stone-cold silence?

00:21:38.000 Well, you know, they released a letter the night before, which we expected saying, here's why we did it.

00:21:43.000 I mean, they actually questioned each of these three individuals who served in our military.

00:21:48.000 They questioned their allegiance to our country.

00:21:50.000 You're like, are you kidding me?

00:21:52.000 So we knew that letter was coming out.

00:21:54.000 They did admit when we interviewed someone else with the FBI who signed off on these security clearance revocations.

00:22:00.000 When we interviewed them, they said one of the things they did to Mr. Friend was just wrong.

00:22:04.000 They wouldn't give him access to his firearms training records.

00:22:07.000 And, you know, you're trying to get some kind of employment in the security field.

00:22:13.000 You need access to those records.

00:22:14.000 And they were denying that even to Mr. Friend, who's now left the FBI because he said, I can't stay in this limbo forever.

00:22:19.000 He just has left.

00:22:21.000 But they denied him his records.

00:22:22.000 And the FBI admitted that that was wrong.

00:22:24.000 It shouldn't have happened.

00:22:24.000 Of course, they said it was a mistake.

00:22:26.000 But so there's some there, but we think this retaliation has been designed to chill anyone else from coming forward because we've had now over two dozen come talk to us.

00:22:39.000 We've talked to all of them.

00:22:40.000 We've interviewed several of them, and the three yesterday were willing to come forward and testify in a public hearing.

00:22:45.000 Yeah, and so this is just the beginning of hopefully a pattern of exposure of the FBI.

00:22:52.000 And we've also learned, I want to play a piece of tape here, which I think is really important.

00:22:57.000 Well, we learned from one of the whistleblowers that the FBI, as you mentioned, is using the security clearances to keep them from getting other jobs.

00:23:08.000 I just want to make sure I have my facts right, Congressman.

00:23:10.000 Is it true that Andy McCabe still has a security clearance and is getting a pension?

00:23:13.000 Is that right?

00:23:15.000 I'm not sure on the security clearance.

00:23:17.000 I say that's probably accurate, but on the pension, yes, he is.

00:23:20.000 It's just amazing.

00:23:21.000 So, I mean, if anyone is a seditious conspiracist, it's Andy McCabe.

00:23:26.000 Let's play Cut 87, please.

00:23:28.000 This has been a trying circumstance for me and my family.

00:23:32.000 It has been more than a year since the FBI took my paycheck from me, and we're getting financially crushed.

00:23:38.000 My family and I have been surviving on early withdrawals from our retirement accounts, while the FBI has ignored my request for approval to obtain outside employment during the review of my security clearance.

00:23:50.000 We have lost our federal health insurance coverage.

00:23:52.000 There's apparently no end in sight.

00:23:54.000 I'm hopeful scrutiny from Congress and from the Inspector General will deter the FBI from abusing the security clearance process to retaliate against others the way it's retaliated against me.

00:24:04.000 And Congressman, we learned that the FBI has almost a bonus structure for getting domestic violent extremists.

00:24:13.000 There's a supply and demand issue with white supremacy.

00:24:16.000 Explain.

00:24:17.000 Yeah, they get there's certain metrics that they're pushed to hit.

00:24:21.000 The way they catalog cases, Mr. O'Boyle pointed out that he had a case where it was like they were dealing with some militia group.

00:24:27.000 He said it's kind of like you're dealing with a gang.

00:24:29.000 And he said that should that's typically defined as one case you're working on.

00:24:33.000 But because there were four individuals involved, it was no, no, we want you to make that four cases because we want to push up these numbers, these domestic violent extremism numbers.

00:24:42.000 And this is the same issue in the Catholic memo, domestic violent extremists.

00:24:47.000 If you attend mass and you're pro-life and you're pro-family, oh, then you're a radical traditional Catholic, and that way we can link you in with domestic. 0.57

00:24:54.000 It's that insidious.

00:24:56.000 It's that wrong.

00:24:59.000 And Charlie, the guy, Marcus Allen, who you played that clip, 450 days that he has been without pay, 450 days he's been held in limbo with the security clearance issue, no health insurance, as he pointed out.

00:25:11.000 20 years he is held a security clearance until the FBI took it from him.

00:25:16.000 He served our country two tours in Iraq.

00:25:18.000 This guy is a good man, and yet that is what is happening to him because he did his job.

00:25:23.000 His job as an analyst was to compile information and get that to the case agents working some case.

00:25:28.000 And it was to compile information on all sides of the issue.

00:25:31.000 And because he forwarded along some information that was somewhat maybe interpreted as critical of how the FBI and our Justice Department was handling certain cases around certain January 6th cases, they suspend his clearance, for goodness sake.

00:25:46.000 That is how wrong it is.

00:25:47.000 You said here at the beginning, I want to play this piece of tape here.

00:25:50.000 Get ready.

00:25:50.000 The Democrats are going to come after you.

00:25:52.000 I want to ask you a question about this, but let's play the clip first.

00:25:54.000 Play Cut 101, please.

00:25:56.000 We've talked to over two dozen whistleblowers.

00:25:58.000 People have come to us.

00:25:59.000 We've interviewed several of those.

00:26:01.000 And today, three of them.

00:26:02.000 Three of those brave whistleblowers.

00:26:04.000 And the lawyer who represents them will tell us their story.

00:26:08.000 They will tell us what happened, what they saw, and then what happened to them because they were courageous enough to report it to Congress.

00:26:16.000 I just want to tell you guys, get ready.

00:26:20.000 Get ready because these guys are going to come after you.

00:26:22.000 And by the way, they're already trialballing this Congressman. 0.64

00:26:25.000 I'll play one more tape here, Cut 95, Nicole Wallace basically saying these people are guilty of insubordination.

00:26:30.000 Play Cut 95, then I would like your reaction.

00:26:32.000 Play Cut 95.

00:26:33.000 Harry, what does it say that Republicans are trying to misappropriate the whistleblower term?

00:26:39.000 I mean, there's always a more sinister motive.

00:26:42.000 And they are standing by people who are, at a minimum, and again, it's not in dispute, guilty of insubordination of refusing to carry out a court-approved search.

00:26:52.000 Congressman, your reaction.

00:26:54.000 These are the same people who said it was fine to have an anonymous whistleblower as the basis for impeaching a president of the United States elected by we the people.

00:27:01.000 I mean, you got to be kidding me.

00:27:04.000 These guys have, the law is clear.

00:27:06.000 When you make a disclosure to Congress, you are a whistleblower.

00:27:10.000 You have certain protections and you are not to be retaliated against.

00:27:14.000 These guys have been.

00:27:16.000 And their testimony yesterday was other people are nervous about coming forward when they see wrongdoing because of how they've been treated.

00:27:24.000 And frankly, that's the point.

00:27:26.000 That's the chilling impact we're seeing from government.

00:27:28.000 Whether it's you speaking out as an American exercise your First Amendment free speech rights and you're nervous about will the cancel culture mob come after me?

00:27:36.000 Will big tech censor me or someone in the government, an employee in the government who's brave enough to say, this is wrong, what I see.

00:27:43.000 I'm going to go report this to Congress.

00:27:44.000 But understand what these guys did first.

00:27:46.000 They went up their chain of command.

00:27:47.000 They first told their supervisors like they were supposed to do.

00:27:50.000 They followed the handbook and then they followed the law when they came to us as whistleblowers.

00:27:54.000 And for people on the Democrat side and people in the press to say they're not, they're just wrong.

00:27:59.000 And so you say get ready because the Democrats are going to come after you.

00:28:03.000 I mean, I believe what they're trying to do is chill whistleblowers.

00:28:06.000 I mean, aren't there whistleblower protections?

00:28:10.000 And if you are a whistleblower, I thought that your pension and your pay are supposed to be protected.

00:28:15.000 I thought that was federal law.

00:28:16.000 Does the FBI find a way to get around it saying, oh, no, no, we can pull them out because they're quasi-insubordinate?

00:28:23.000 Very good question, Charlie.

00:28:24.000 It's different for the law enforcement intel component of the government.

00:28:28.000 Most other agencies, what you just described would be accurate, but not for these guys.

00:28:31.000 It may be something we have to look at in the law of the change for someone making protective whistleblower status that you can't do this to them as, again, as retaliation.

00:28:41.000 Yeah, and I mean, so, for example, so does the IRS count as a law enforcement?

00:28:46.000 I'm curious because there seems to be a lot of reshuffling and people being moved and whistleblowers.

00:28:52.000 So is that a law enforcement?

00:28:54.000 No, I don't think they're in the same category.

00:28:56.000 And of course, it's interesting.

00:28:57.000 Mr. Levitt, who testified yesterday, who represents some of these whistleblowers, also represents the guy at the IRS who's come forward.

00:29:04.000 And he sent us a letter earlier in the week.

00:29:05.000 It's funny what all happened this week.

00:29:06.000 The same week we learned from Durham that what they did to President Trump was no probable cause, no evidence whatsoever, no proper predicate, and they did it.

00:29:15.000 The same week we learned that is the week we have this letter from Mr. Levitt about the IRS whistleblower.

00:29:20.000 And we just happen to have these guys scheduled to come in and testify at a hearing where they tell us what's going on.

00:29:24.000 It just shows how serious this is in our Justice Department and why our oversight work is so darn important.

00:29:31.000 I mean, I hope that this starts a movement of more whistleblowers and more exposure of their deeds of darkness.

00:29:37.000 Congressman, thank you for your courage and your leadership.

00:29:39.000 You bet.

00:29:40.000 You're welcome back anytime.

00:29:41.000 Thanks so much.

00:29:41.000 Thanks, Ari.

00:29:42.000 Thanks for all you do.

00:29:43.000 Take care.

00:29:46.000 Governor Ron DeSantis, who's objectively a fabulous governor, he's done a wonderful job in Florida, and I love that he's going after Disney.

00:29:52.000 I'm a big fan of it.

00:29:53.000 But I disagree with part of this.

00:29:56.000 Let's listen to this, Cut 99.

00:29:57.000 It's Fox reporting that DeSantis has basically confirmed he's running for the presidency.

00:30:03.000 But he's talking about, well, Trump has insurmountable poll numbers in Battleground States.

00:30:08.000 Governor DeSantis, here's my message to you.

00:30:10.000 They're going to try to take you out the same way as Trump.

00:30:13.000 The extra-constitutional coup, the subterranean games, the crossfire hurricane, they're just going to do it to you.

00:30:21.000 We have to talk about not just the Durham stuff, talk about the entire ecosystem of unconstitutional, non-democratic means that they are able to interfere with and take out any candidate of their liking.

00:30:34.000 Play cut 99, please.

00:30:35.000 Ron DeSantis, the governor raising eyebrows today, the Florida governor, all but confirming he's running for president.

00:30:42.000 So the New York Times reported that DeSantis made the comments on a call with donors, giving them a candid assessment on the state of the race.

00:30:48.000 So here is what he said, quote, you have basically three people at this point that are credible in this whole thing.

00:30:55.000 Biden, Trump, and me.

00:30:57.000 And I think of those three, two have a chance to get elected president, Biden and me, based on all the data in the swing states, which is not great for the former president and probably insurmountable because people aren't going to change their view of him.

00:31:11.000 That's not what this election is going to be about.

00:31:13.000 It's not going to be about just individual popularity.

00:31:15.000 It is correct.

00:31:16.000 Governor DeSantis is right.

00:31:17.000 There's a bunch of people that hate Trump.

00:31:20.000 Simultaneously, Donald Trump is able to get turnout in certain counties and certain areas, unlike anything we've seen any Republican candidate ever in the history of politics.

00:31:29.000 So both are simultaneously true. 0.75

00:31:31.000 And we're getting a lot of emails.

00:31:33.000 Someone said, hey, Charlie, does the RNC listen to you about this?

00:31:36.000 No, they don't.

00:31:37.000 It's very simple, though.

00:31:38.000 If you're about to enter into a game, a scenario where you know they cheated in 16 and they were unsuccessful, Crossfire Hurricane.

00:31:46.000 Again, the fact that Trump was able to defeat Hillary Clinton is remarkable.

00:31:49.000 And Hillary Clinton took it easy.

00:31:51.000 You got to wonder if Hillary Clinton would have done the same clandestine games that they did in 20. 0.99

00:31:56.000 Would Donald Trump have been president?

00:31:57.000 I don't know.

00:31:58.000 That's a really good question.

00:32:00.000 They never thought that that blue wall could have been broken.

00:32:02.000 They never thought that Donald Trump, the blowhard from New York, would have been able to win Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.

00:32:10.000 Democrats are pledging.

00:32:11.000 It's a blood oath that they're not going to repeat that same mistake.

00:32:14.000 As we have said repeatedly on this program, though, the electoral map has changed.

00:32:19.000 Because of the census, it changes every 10 years.

00:32:21.000 You basically only need three states to win the presidency.

00:32:24.000 I'm thrilled that other people are repeating this obvious observation that we first surfaced on Tim Poole's program.

00:32:29.000 It's great.

00:32:30.000 Richard Barris is saying, other people are saying it needs to get into the zeitgeist.

00:32:33.000 It's three states.

00:32:34.000 You got to go to Wisconsin, Arizona, Georgia.

00:32:36.000 You've got to win those three if you also win Ohio, North Carolina, Iowa, Florida, of which are very solidly Republican states.

00:32:44.000 And so where does that leave us?

00:32:46.000 What is the game they're going to play?

00:32:49.000 Some of this is just speculation, or what if the whiteboard just says, do it again?

00:32:58.000 What if they're not as creative?

00:33:00.000 What if they get a little cocky and they just say, do it again?

00:33:06.000 Now, the it is interesting because can they lock down the country again?

00:33:11.000 That's probably unlikely, but we should be ready for that.

00:33:14.000 But there's only so many ways that you can rig an election.

00:33:17.000 One of the ways is that they do not platform Donald Trump.

00:33:22.000 You know, they covered, they didn't cover any of the whistleblowers.

00:33:25.000 New York Times, front page of the New York Times.

00:33:29.000 Robbed of joy, Ukraine teens laugh to keep from weeping. 0.98

00:33:33.000 Long isolated Syria rejoins Arab League.

00:33:37.000 Liberals balking at debt offer.

00:33:39.000 Nothing, nothing, nothing about the whistleblowers.

00:33:42.000 Nothing on the New York Times.

00:33:45.000 Wall Street Journal, G's top spy leads crackdown.

00:33:49.000 Nothing on the front pages.

00:33:51.000 Home sales and prices drop.

00:33:53.000 Nothing.

00:33:54.000 CBS, NBC, ABC, zero minutes.

00:33:57.000 So part of their rigging is they're just going to ignore Trump.

00:33:59.000 They're not going to take the rallies.

00:34:00.000 They're just going to put it on the fringes.

00:34:02.000 They're going to limit messaging penetration of the zeitgeist.

00:34:06.000 But what if on the whiteboard it just says rinse and repeat?

00:34:09.000 Rinse and repeat.

00:34:10.000 Rinse and repeat.

00:34:12.000 They don't control Twitter anymore.

00:34:13.000 That's positive.

00:34:14.000 But they control Facebook and YouTube and TikTok more than ever before.

00:34:20.000 What I am arguing for is a very simple thing.

00:34:23.000 You know, you couldn't run a business like this.

00:34:25.000 You could not run a business without whiteboarding a strategy to try to defeat a competitor.

00:34:30.000 And yet we run the LARP, not we, but the Republican Party, which is the opposition party, is just a bunch of hoping and guessing.

00:34:37.000 I could tell you, the people running this operation, they're not smart. 0.99

00:34:41.000 They're very corrupt. 0.99

00:34:42.000 I've seen them, met them. 0.92

00:34:44.000 They're some good people.

00:34:44.000 They're very fine people.

00:34:45.000 They're nice, very sweet.

00:34:47.000 They are not wartime going for the throat.

00:34:49.000 And I will ask you again, we're going to keep on repeating this.

00:34:51.000 If they did it in 20, they did it in 22, what's going to stop them from doing it in 24?

00:34:59.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:35:00.000 Email us your thoughts as always.

00:35:02.000 Freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:35:04.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - May 19, 2023

Stopping the 2024 Coup with Rep. Jim Jordan

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