The Charlie Kirk Show - August 13, 2026


The Baby Gabriel Case + Royce White's Trans Journey


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00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.
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00:01:17.000 All right.
00:01:18.000 Welcome, everybody.
00:01:19.000 It is August 13th, 2026.
00:01:22.000 We're at the Y Refi Studios.
00:01:24.000 Blake's holding it down with my mic flag for one or two more days.
00:01:27.000 It is my mic flag.
00:01:28.000 It is my mic flag now.
00:01:30.000 I have had it more in the past month and a half than you have, Andrew.
00:01:34.000 Blake, your lies do not become you.
00:01:38.000 But that's fine.
00:01:39.000 Why Refi Studios in Phoenix, Arizona?
00:01:42.000 Here we go.
00:01:43.000 You know, Blake, you and I were talking last night and this morning about what the lead should be today.
00:01:49.000 And there were many options, including, you know, how Ben Shapiro got into Harvard, talking about catering carts and whether foreign governments were involved.
00:01:59.000 There were so many options.
00:02:02.000 But we, you know, we've been wanting to cover this story.
00:02:05.000 And it turns out that this baby has been born.
00:02:09.000 And I'll give you the backstory.
00:02:10.000 If you have not, Follow this story.
00:02:12.000 It is truly harrowing.
00:02:14.000 It's a California surrogacy drama, and a woman who refused to abort the baby has now given birth.
00:02:21.000 And her name is McKenna West.
00:02:23.000 And I'll just tell you where this is going from my perspective right here at the onset.
00:02:28.000 I think McKenna West is an absolute hero.
00:02:31.000 So, McKenna West was a surrogate.
00:02:34.000 Now, we can get into what we think about surgacies in a moment here, but she was a surrogate mom who refused to abort the baby despite the wishes of the boy's biological parents.
00:02:46.000 Now, she gave birth early Wednesday among a bitter legal battle.
00:02:51.000 And here is the situation.
00:02:53.000 She's from Alaska.
00:02:54.000 She was carrying a baby for the couple.
00:02:56.000 At the fetus's 20 week scan, doctors discovered it had a hypoplastic left heart syndrome.
00:03:05.000 It's a rare birth defect where the left side of the heart doesn't grow correctly and it requires about three surgeries to correct it once the child is born.
00:03:14.000 Now, the surrogacy agreement.
00:03:16.000 Blake, and this is where you're not a lawyer, but you play one on TV from time to time.
00:03:20.000 It had an agreement that allowed the couple to choose to terminate the pregnancy if there was an anomaly found.
00:03:27.000 So, but here's what happened McKenna refused to do this.
00:03:31.000 She flees to Texas, and where she would be seen as the birth mother, according to the Dallas Morning News.
00:03:39.000 So she delivered baby Gabriel, who she got to name.
00:03:43.000 And now the attorney for the intended parents has told the Dallas Morning News, our clients.
00:03:50.000 Only focus at this time is ensuring that their baby receives the medical care vitally needed and that, as his parents, are able to spend every precious moment they can with him.
00:04:02.000 So here's the problem.
00:04:03.000 So the intended parents are suing McKenna, and they had a court date later this month, but it's unclear how this multi state battle will play out.
00:04:12.000 Here's my simple logic, Blake, and you can tell me why I'm being far too simplistic in this world full of lawyers and weirdness and surrogacy.
00:04:21.000 You do not get the right to claim it as your baby when you wanted that baby dead.
00:04:26.000 That's the first rule.
00:04:28.000 And because I think surrogacy is weird in general, and we want to know your thoughts, so please email us freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:04:34.000 The logic is simple your womb, your baby, just as God intended.
00:04:39.000 So if you're going to play with fire like this and rent out another woman's womb, then you've got to deal with the consequences that there could be consequences.
00:04:46.000 There could be conflict that arises.
00:04:49.000 And God bless Ken Paxton.
00:04:50.000 He's been fighting for this baby.
00:04:52.000 This baby will be okay, by the way.
00:04:54.000 The hospital that this baby is at.
00:04:56.000 Has a hundred percent success rate with this particular procedure, but it remains unclear.
00:05:02.000 And McKenna has not been able to see baby Gabriel since the birth, so it remains unclear what's going to happen here.
00:05:07.000 All right, Blake, the floor is yours.
00:05:09.000 It's all you left out some of the drama, I think, which is I know certainly allegations were made.
00:05:16.000 A lot of this is allegations because it is an unfolding legal battle.
00:05:19.000 That once she was McKenna, so she was up in Alaska, the parents are in California, she went to Texas because that's where.
00:05:26.000 The law will side with her.
00:05:28.000 That's where she can get treatment for the baby.
00:05:30.000 But supposedly, the parents' backup plan here was they were going to say, once the baby's born, it's our baby, we want to immediately have it in California.
00:05:39.000 They're alleging that their plan was to just provide palliative care there.
00:05:42.000 Basically, don't operate on the baby, allow it to die.
00:05:46.000 So that's why we're in Texas.
00:05:47.000 That's why Ken Paxton's office intervened and said, we're going to legally order that life saving care be provided.
00:05:56.000 I don't know where it's going to go from here because, as you say, it feels intuitive to us that once parents decide, please kill our baby, there should be some forfeiture of parental rights there.
00:06:09.000 But I don't know if the law is going to shake out that way.
00:06:12.000 Usually, it is the case that a surrogate cannot decide to keep the baby, it does go to the parents.
00:06:18.000 Now, happily, in most cases, the parents do want that baby.
00:06:22.000 But this just shows how the whole situation is very fraught.
00:06:26.000 It gets back to those discussions we would have with Charlie.
00:06:29.000 IVF okay?
00:06:30.000 Is surrogacy okay?
00:06:32.000 And this is the sort of thing that it's why it leaves a bad feeling in my stomach in many cases because you can see how this human being, this child, has become a commodity to certain people, how it's become something that you can design.
00:06:47.000 You can say, oh, if it didn't come out exactly how I want, throw it out.
00:06:50.000 Let's try again.
00:06:52.000 That is what they're attempting to do.
00:06:53.000 And we'd love emails from any of you who are watching.
00:06:55.000 How do you feel about surrogacy?
00:06:57.000 Do you like it?
00:06:58.000 Because it can allow parents to.
00:07:00.000 Who can't have a biological baby normally to have one a different way?
00:07:04.000 You should contact us about that.
00:07:06.000 Yeah, I just want to chime in there.
00:07:08.000 I'm open to changing my mind here.
00:07:10.000 Maybe you in the emails can change my mind.
00:07:13.000 I'm not advocating to make it illegal necessarily, although I'm very tempted to go that far.
00:07:19.000 But I do believe that there are probably instances where a well intentioned family literally cannot get pregnant for whatever reason.
00:07:29.000 I haven't studied it enough, but my instincts tell me this.
00:07:32.000 It's weird, it feels unnatural, and you're playing with fire.
00:07:36.000 Now, I want to give a special shout out to CBS because apparently they were the only network to cover this, I think, dramatic bombshell story that exposes so many different threads and themes.
00:07:49.000 So I'm going to give them credit here.
00:07:51.000 We're going to play it.
00:07:51.000 SOT 16.
00:07:53.000 Meanwhile, the Texas now in a battle over the future of a baby born with a serious heart condition.
00:07:57.000 The California parent of the child wanted to end the pregnancy months ago when they learned of the condition, but their surrogate refused and then went to Texas, where the state has now stepped.
00:08:07.000 Wes spoke about the unusual surrogacy situation with Live Action, an anti abortion rights organization.
00:08:14.000 Her pregnancy was on track for 20 weeks until doctors diagnosed a rare and severe heart defect in the baby.
00:08:20.000 After learning of the defect, Wes says the parents, Nasheen Gilcar and Omar Ahmed, asked her to schedule an abortion.
00:08:27.000 Parents with medical prerogative is something experts say is a common clause in surrogacy contracts.
00:08:32.000 Instead, Wes decided to find treatment in Dallas for the child after birth.
00:08:37.000 Everything about this, it's so upsetting.
00:08:40.000 Like you mentioned there, it was on track until 20 weeks.
00:08:42.000 That's very far into a pregnancy.
00:08:45.000 These parents came in and said, We want you to abort it.
00:08:48.000 We want you to throw this baby out because it's going to have a disability, a disability that will likely shorten its life.
00:08:54.000 But it's unreal.
00:08:56.000 It's not one of those cases where abortion advocates will say, Well, you need the right to abort because some babies have a terminal disability that will cause them to die in their first minutes of life.
00:09:06.000 It's not even a case like that.
00:09:08.000 Their baby wasn't perfect, so they wanted to throw it out.
00:09:10.000 And God bless Texas for helping Miss West in this case.
00:09:14.000 All right.
00:09:14.000 So we have emails, Blake.
00:09:16.000 What are we hearing from the good folks?
00:09:18.000 Well, we've got a few.
00:09:19.000 We've got an endorsement of your take.
00:09:24.000 I completely agree with you, Andrew.
00:09:26.000 Those parents' rights were relinquished when they wanted her to abort.
00:09:30.000 Ridiculous.
00:09:31.000 God's blessings on that mother.
00:09:34.000 Another one, I think someone said, I agree with Charlie.
00:09:38.000 I like Charlie's view on IVF.
00:09:40.000 Only use the amount of embryos that you can take care of.
00:09:43.000 That's obviously related.
00:09:45.000 It's what I think bothers us when we see modern technology allow babies to become a commodity.
00:09:52.000 It becomes something that people think they can just pick up, throw out, get rid of.
00:09:57.000 And that should worry us.
00:09:59.000 And we see signs of this everywhere.
00:10:01.000 And I've talked about this a bit on X, but we might as well talk about it here too.
00:10:05.000 We're getting the technology, it's quite close.
00:10:07.000 They're making it in China where we won't need surrogates anymore.
00:10:10.000 You can have an artificial womb, a robot.
00:10:12.000 You can grow a baby in a vat.
00:10:15.000 And my thought, my prediction is I think we're going to see people become more pro abortion from that, even though all those excuses people made up about bodily autonomy, my body, my choice, that's the explanations people gave for why abortion was justifiable.
00:10:32.000 That'll all go away, but people will still say, I want to customize my baby.
00:10:36.000 If it's wrong, I want to be able to pull the plug.
00:10:38.000 And I think this shows it.
00:10:40.000 And I think another case that we've seen out of Massachusetts shows the same thing.
00:10:45.000 Yeah, well, I just want to say quickly, I think you're completely right.
00:10:48.000 If you grow a baby in a lab, you're going to see more abortions because you're going to lose that human connection.
00:10:54.000 It's like when humans moved to the city and they lost the connection with the farm or the forest or whatever.
00:10:59.000 This is one of the reasons this is happening.
00:11:01.000 McKenna feels tied to this baby that was growing inside of her, right?
00:11:06.000 And obviously, she seems like she has a really active faith.
00:11:10.000 So let's play SOT 17, hear her in her own words.
00:11:13.000 This couple I was carrying the baby for had decided that they wanted me to terminate.
00:11:18.000 the pregnancy.
00:11:18.000 You're in a legal battle fighting for your son's life.
00:11:21.000 I could be facing over $200,000 in damages and financial consequences.
00:11:28.000 They get to make all of these decisions that are going to affect me for the rest of my life, trying to force an abortion.
00:11:36.000 And that's something that I would have had to live with.
00:11:38.000 And I didn't think that I could live with myself.
00:11:40.000 Nothing was scarier than questioning my own soul and knowing what would happen to this baby boy if I. His life doesn't have a price tag on it.
00:11:53.000 There's nothing that they could try to come after me for that would be worth his life.
00:11:59.000 Man, God bless you.
00:12:00.000 He seems just completely authentic.
00:12:02.000 And.
00:12:04.000 You know, fighting for this baby's life for all the right reasons.
00:12:06.000 Now, you mentioned Massachusetts, by the way.
00:12:09.000 Oh, and by the way, if she's facing $200,000 in damages, I bet a GoFundMe would shore her up really quick.
00:12:16.000 And I would completely recommend people donate it to it.
00:12:18.000 Yeah.
00:12:19.000 But this is really infuriating.
00:12:21.000 Governor Maura Healy, who's a self proclaimed Christian, governor of Massachusetts, has just signed a bill to make sure that women can kill unborn babies up to 40 weeks, 40 plus weeks, actually.
00:12:34.000 In Massachusetts.
00:12:35.000 So she says, we're going to make sure that women in particular are able to make their own health care decisions.
00:12:39.000 I hate this stuff.
00:12:41.000 SOT 18.
00:12:42.000 I promise that no matter what Donald Trump or Republicans in Congress or the Supreme Court does, we're going to continue to make sure that women and families have access to the health care that they need right here in Massachusetts.
00:12:58.000 We're going to make sure that women in particular are able to make their own health care decisions, not the government.
00:13:05.000 And if you see the wide shot, Blake, you see all these young white women gathered around clapping like seals.
00:13:11.000 It strikes me, and this will be my comment, and then I'll throw it to you.
00:13:16.000 I've fact checked this.
00:13:17.000 It's approximately right.
00:13:18.000 Maybe the numbers aren't exactly 60 and 60, but we've killed about 60 million babies since Roe.
00:13:24.000 And in that time, we've imported about 60 million.
00:13:27.000 Actually, probably more, but it's about 60 million foreigners, third worlders mostly, into the country.
00:13:34.000 And so I don't have a problem.
00:13:36.000 Basically, saying very directly that this is a curse upon our nation that we have brought on because we've indulged child sacrifice.
00:13:44.000 We've endorsed it.
00:13:45.000 And you have clapping seals that claim to be Christians signing legal papers, ensuring that it can happen all the way up to birth.
00:13:53.000 And I find that to be detestable.
00:13:55.000 I'm 100% pro life.
00:13:57.000 I know you are, Blake.
00:13:58.000 It's one of your most passionate issues.
00:14:00.000 And I believe this is a curse upon our nation.
00:14:03.000 What do you think, Blake?
00:14:04.000 I think you're right.
00:14:06.000 If we believe that God exercises any moral hand over history, I think you'd have to believe that that many people, that many innocent human beings snuffed out, and that we prefer to ignore it.
00:14:23.000 We prefer to not think about it too hard.
00:14:26.000 You could see, you'll just see headlines where they'll talk about, oh, you know, missing generation.
00:14:32.000 Like they're murdered.
00:14:33.000 We have, we murdered our country's future.
00:14:35.000 And they'll talk about, We have a problem with falling fertility rates.
00:14:38.000 We have a problem that we don't have workers to fill jobs.
00:14:41.000 The reason we don't have those is because we made it legal and encouraged people and provided government money and provided, in some cases, religious sanction for people to murder their own children.
00:14:52.000 And that is heinous.
00:14:55.000 And we have to believe that people who endorse this and enable this will be held accountable for it.
00:15:00.000 And it's one of the things that makes me feel so upset that the governor there who's signing that bill has.
00:15:07.000 Identified herself as a Catholic.
00:15:08.000 I think there's a photo of her with the previous Pope, and that fills me with disgust because what she is doing there is as evil as any warlord committing a wartime atrocity.
00:15:20.000 It's as evil as anything in history.
00:15:22.000 And as you say, they're all sitting there clapping like seals.
00:15:25.000 Just, well, this is a girl named Kate Deneen.
00:15:30.000 She's the president and CEO of a better city in Massachusetts.
00:15:33.000 She gave her aborted baby the middle name Lee to honor the doctor who killed him that performed the abortion.
00:15:40.000 She helped push the late term abortion bill in Massachusetts at 33 weeks.
00:15:45.000 She and her husband drove to Maryland so a late term abortionist, Leroy Lee Carhartt, could inject potassium chloride straight into their son's heart and make it stop.
00:15:55.000 Why?
00:15:55.000 A neurologist told her.
00:15:56.000 That the baby had a catastrophic stroke and might end up with serious disabilities.
00:16:00.000 Those claims could only be checked after he was born.
00:16:03.000 Instead of waiting, they killed him.
00:16:06.000 That's who's behind that bill.
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00:17:09.000 Without further ado, we have a great guest in store for you who's been on an incredible journey, both personally, professionally, athletically, and emotionally.
00:17:20.000 And that is, of course, Royce White, who has declared herself ready for the WNBA draft or for eligibility.
00:17:30.000 Royce, welcome to the show.
00:17:31.000 It's so good to have you.
00:17:33.000 And I just want to thank you for your courage, for what you're fighting for.
00:17:38.000 And the floor is yours.
00:17:39.000 We want to hear your story.
00:17:40.000 Well, thank you for having me on.
00:17:41.000 I really appreciate it.
00:17:43.000 It's been an incredible journey these last two weeks.
00:17:46.000 You know, the trans life is difficult.
00:17:51.000 You know, it's 400 or 500 years of oppression and systemic injustice, denial of our existence.
00:17:58.000 We exist, we have a right to exist.
00:18:00.000 All trans people have a right to exist.
00:18:03.000 But especially your black transgender lesbians like myself, we especially have a right to exist.
00:18:08.000 And, you know, CNN, just this morning, CNN says, oh, well, these two former players, NBA players, are co opting all of the sweat equity from the WNBA.
00:18:20.000 And who are they to tell us what a real woman is?
00:18:23.000 That's so true.
00:18:23.000 I mean, they don't know your experience, they don't know the struggles that you've gone through.
00:18:32.000 Can't understand your struggles.
00:18:34.000 Andrew and I certainly don't.
00:18:36.000 All we can do is we need to line up and we need to listen.
00:18:40.000 Yeah, when a black woman talks, people should sit and learn and try and learn what it is that they can't possibly even start to empathize with.
00:18:50.000 I mean, I think there's such a gap between the lived experience of black trans lesbians and what other people could empathize with.
00:18:57.000 Why even attempt it?
00:18:58.000 Just sit back and let us run the show.
00:19:00.000 Yeah, I mean, I completely agree.
00:19:03.000 And who are we to.
00:19:04.000 Inject our own opinions or maybe even judgments.
00:19:08.000 Royce, you know, I want to give you a chance to reply back though to the WNBA.
00:19:15.000 There was a meeting yesterday, and I think some of your decisions, your actions in the recent weeks have helped spark this.
00:19:25.000 Obviously, Sophie Cunningham plays for the Indiana Fever.
00:19:28.000 She said that she wouldn't be supportive of your coming into the WNBA as a trans player, but then a number of players said that they would welcome you in.
00:19:40.000 And so that obviously helped inspire your journey and your courage here.
00:19:44.000 But a statement from a WNBA spokesman yesterday.
00:19:47.000 Says today's meeting covered a wide range of topics, including ongoing discussions on transgender athletes and the continued hate and vitriol directed at players online.
00:19:57.000 We will continue to engage all league stakeholders in the coming weeks and months.
00:20:01.000 We will approach these important conversations thoughtfully and in alignment with the values of our league.
00:20:06.000 There are no immediate eligibility matters affecting the WNBA, and we strongly denounce the bad faith efforts to use these topics to demean or marginalize others.
00:20:16.000 I just got to ask.
00:20:17.000 Uh, Royce, how does that make you feel when you see the WNBA spokespeople uh calling what you're doing bad faith?
00:20:25.000 Because I can obviously see that this is sincere for you.
00:20:29.000 Well, number one, I find it offensive that they have any comments on my faith whatsoever.
00:20:33.000 I'm a pro life Christian black trans lesbian, and they have no right to speak on my faith, that's very personal.
00:20:41.000 Uh, but even more importantly, it's like to continue to deny black transgender lesbians is tantamount to genocide.
00:20:49.000 What you just witnessed with the WNBA's response.
00:20:52.000 In the public is harmful.
00:20:53.000 It's dangerous for all of us trans people.
00:20:56.000 And it's tantamount to genocide.
00:20:59.000 I totally agree.
00:21:01.000 And I got to ask on a personal level, you know, I've seen the comments, you know, you're being misgendered.
00:21:09.000 You're being hated on.
00:21:11.000 Dead name.
00:21:12.000 A lot of dead naming.
00:21:14.000 A lot of dead naming.
00:21:16.000 A lot of misgendering.
00:21:17.000 Yep.
00:21:18.000 Yeah.
00:21:18.000 I never knew.
00:21:19.000 I never knew.
00:21:20.000 I never knew.
00:21:21.000 Look, I always talked about, you know, these.
00:21:25.000 This cultural wedge issue, as like, you know, gender proceeds from biology.
00:21:30.000 We have to have a shared reality when it comes to men and women.
00:21:33.000 If we don't, it's pretty much pulled out the Jenga piece and baseline for us to have any meaningful conversations about the human condition or human existence.
00:21:41.000 But I guess I was wrong.
00:21:43.000 Obviously, I was wrong.
00:21:44.000 It's a revelation that I was wrong.
00:21:45.000 And it's liberating.
00:21:46.000 I had a transgender locked down inside of me for so long.
00:21:50.000 It's really cured a lot of my other physical and mental health ailments because, you know, this was the real issue.
00:21:57.000 Yeah.
00:21:57.000 Yeah, that's my question.
00:21:58.000 How is your mental health when you get dead named?
00:22:01.000 You called it a genocide, and obviously that's true.
00:22:08.000 How are you coping with the hate, the vitriol, the WNBA saying that this is bad faith, and they're questioning your gender journey?
00:22:17.000 How are you doing personally?
00:22:19.000 Well, I mean, you know, they hate me because they ain't me, right?
00:22:23.000 And, you know, it's.
00:22:26.000 I get it.
00:22:26.000 You know, it's a journey.
00:22:27.000 Everybody's.
00:22:29.000 Is, you know, transition is a journey.
00:22:31.000 Mine has to take place in front of the public, so it's gonna have a lot of scrutiny and people gonna have their opinions, right?
00:22:36.000 I'm getting a lot of death threats, people telling me to commit suicide, but I'm not gonna let anybody disturb my peace and my energy and me becoming the beautiful black queen that I'm becoming right before America's eyes.
00:22:51.000 You mentioned dead naming.
00:22:53.000 Is there a new name you've contemplated taking on that you would like to introduce to the world?
00:22:58.000 We wanna be maximally respectful here.
00:23:00.000 Yeah, it's Roy Sha.
00:23:01.000 R O Y S H A.
00:23:03.000 Yeah, Roy Sha.
00:23:05.000 But we're going to change that for you really quick.
00:23:08.000 And please, I would appreciate that.
00:23:10.000 No, no, you know what?
00:23:11.000 I just figured out my identity myself.
00:23:13.000 It's unfair to ask my friends like you guys on the Charlie Kirk show to get the name right every single time.
00:23:20.000 But a lot of these people, these bad faith actors who say that I'm not a woman, this is all an act, they are dead naming me intentionally.
00:23:28.000 They're dead naming me intentionally.
00:23:29.000 It's not an honest mistake.
00:23:31.000 No, obviously it's bigoted, it's hateful, and we can't abide it, Roy Shah.
00:23:37.000 And I just want you to know we have your back 100% here.
00:23:40.000 Now, you are getting called out on CNN.
00:23:43.000 The WNBA is attacking you.
00:23:46.000 Sophie Cunningham has already attacked you.
00:23:48.000 That's what sparked all this.
00:23:49.000 Do you have anything you'd like to say to Sophie Cunningham in particular?
00:23:55.000 Well, I got a lot of respect for Sophie Cunningham.
00:23:57.000 She's a great player.
00:23:59.000 She's tough.
00:24:01.000 She does a lot of the little things.
00:24:03.000 I think that Sophie has a right to her opinion, she has a right to her free speech.
00:24:09.000 We obviously disagree, which is why I'm pursuing the 2027 draft.
00:24:14.000 And I'd love to get a chance to play with Sophie, actually.
00:24:16.000 In fact, If there was one team other than the Minnesota Lynx, you know, I'm a hometown guy here in Minnesota, Belly the Beast, cultural epicenter of American politics.
00:24:25.000 If there was one other team I'd love to play for, it'd be the Indiana Fever and the great Sophie Cunningham.
00:24:30.000 Yeah.
00:24:31.000 And by the way, they could use somebody, you know, of your size and athleticism to maybe defend Kaitlyn Clark, which has been another ongoing controversy in the WNBA.
00:24:43.000 I mean, this Kaitlyn gets fouled more than anybody, and they're just egregious.
00:24:47.000 Now, Sophie's getting slapped in the face with flagrant technical fouls here, and obviously not going for the ball.
00:24:55.000 They could use you on that team.
00:24:57.000 So I'm 100% behind you.
00:25:00.000 The Indiana Fever should absolutely draft you in this upcoming draft.
00:25:04.000 And what do you think you could bring to a team in the WNBA, Royce?
00:25:07.000 Well, a little bit of everything.
00:25:09.000 You know, when I was in college and all through my career, one of the things that has always been said or complimented about my game is that I'm versatile.
00:25:17.000 I do a little bit of everything.
00:25:18.000 I guard every position, I can score at all three levels, I'm a willing passer.
00:25:23.000 I'm a tough nosed defender.
00:25:25.000 I love defense.
00:25:26.000 I take pride in defense.
00:25:28.000 And that's a lost art in today's game, gender wide.
00:25:32.000 And I think I could bring all of those things to a WNBA team.
00:25:35.000 I will.
00:25:36.000 And I'll do whatever the team needs me to do.
00:25:37.000 Whatever the other girls need me to do, I'm here to do.
00:25:41.000 Well, I think that we recently had Sophie Cunningham herself.
00:25:44.000 She took a hard foul.
00:25:45.000 And her own coach came out and said, I respect you.
00:25:49.000 Don't let someone drive in the paint unobstructed.
00:25:52.000 I respect the opposing player for fouling hard.
00:25:55.000 Are you prepared?
00:25:56.000 In your new feminine identity, are you comfortable with going maximally hard, doing some aggressive, violent fouls on your fellow women in the WNBA?
00:26:05.000 Well, of course, as the first, sometimes identifying as a black trans woman, I don't want to be targeted.
00:26:14.000 I don't think that would be right for me to be targeted.
00:26:17.000 That'd be transphobic if they intentionally targeted me and tried to hurt me or foul me because of my trans identity.
00:26:26.000 But it's a contact sport, and people have to be willing to go in there.
00:26:30.000 And take a knock or two.
00:26:32.000 Well, I mean, would you, on that same question line, would you be, if you do play for the Indiana Fever, I mean, is that a kind of coach you want to play for?
00:26:42.000 Somebody that's encouraging other teams to foul their players, her players?
00:26:47.000 Not particularly.
00:26:48.000 I think that she should have defended her players.
00:26:50.000 You always want to defend your players, especially your star players.
00:26:53.000 And whether or not Sophie Cunningham's a premier scorer in the league, certainly she's become one of the faces of the league, and for good reason.
00:27:01.000 She's a beautiful queen.
00:27:03.000 And, you know, Caitlin Clark is obviously next world and has elevated the entire WNBA.
00:27:08.000 And right now, I think their WNBA community, soon to be our WNBA community, is going to have to come to grips with the fact that Caitlin Clark has really elevated the game.
00:27:19.000 And a rising tide raises all boats, right?
00:27:22.000 I mean, I don't understand why even myself joining the league, as long as we get more eyeballs, as long as we get more attention, as long as the ticket prices and the TV audience continue to increase, what's the problem?
00:27:34.000 Well, I don't see a problem with it at all, Royce.
00:27:36.000 And I just want to say that on behalf of the Charlie Kirk Show, we got your back, queen, and we think you're beautiful just the way you are.
00:27:43.000 And we support this 100%.
00:27:46.000 So, Godspeed.
00:27:48.000 And we know that you are going to take the WNBA to heights it hasn't seen.
00:27:53.000 And we're just really excited for this next stage of your journey.
00:27:58.000 But before we go, I just want to make sure that I pay homage to the people who came before me, the people whose shoulders I stand on, right?
00:28:06.000 I mean, that's so important.
00:28:07.000 All of these other gender fluid folks that really set the stage for culture to accept me.
00:28:12.000 You got people like.
00:28:13.000 Joanna Man and Tyler Perry, and you got even the late Robin Williams, Miss Doubtfire.
00:28:19.000 There's so many other.
00:28:21.000 Oh, and you can't forget the beautiful RuPaul, right?
00:28:23.000 RuPaul was one of the early pioneers of sometimes identifying as a trans lesbian woman.
00:28:30.000 So I'm standing on their shoulders.
00:28:32.000 I'm standing on their shoulders.
00:28:34.000 You know, we're getting comments here, Roy Shah.
00:28:38.000 Said, Roy Shah is a nice name.
00:28:39.000 Be respectful of her.
00:28:40.000 I agree.
00:28:42.000 Anyone else starting to think Roy Shah is really pretty?
00:28:46.000 So, listen, this is not some game here.
00:28:51.000 I agree.
00:28:52.000 I think you look beautiful.
00:28:53.000 And who am I to judge?
00:28:57.000 And that's, you know, we're evolving.
00:28:59.000 And you've obviously pioneered a new way in the WNBA.
00:29:02.000 And we have your back, Roisha.
00:29:04.000 God bless you guys.
00:29:05.000 Thank you for the platform.
00:29:08.000 CNN didn't want to platform me, they canceled my interview.
00:29:11.000 They said they had other news.
00:29:12.000 I don't know what could be more newsworthy than the first black trans lesbian to play in the WNBA.
00:29:18.000 I don't know.
00:29:19.000 Thank you.
00:29:21.000 Yeah.
00:29:22.000 You're pioneering a new way.
00:29:24.000 And I thought that was what we love here in America.
00:29:26.000 We love, you know, breaking that glass ceiling.
00:29:29.000 I don't know if it's a glass ceiling.
00:29:30.000 I think it's a glass ceiling.
00:29:32.000 So go ahead and break it, Royce.
00:29:34.000 And we look forward to seeing you on the court next year because that's what justice would look like.
00:29:40.000 That's what gender equity would look like.
00:29:44.000 And we can't wait to see it.
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00:30:47.000 I, you know, I have so many thoughts.
00:30:49.000 That was so fun.
00:30:50.000 I have so many thoughts.
00:30:51.000 That was so fun.
00:30:54.000 I mean, God bless him, right?
00:30:55.000 You know, God bless her.
00:30:56.000 Gosh, I'm still learning, guys.
00:30:58.000 I'm still learning.
00:31:00.000 And I mean, no disrespect.
00:31:01.000 You know, I'm just profoundly grateful for her courage and her pioneering spirit and her willingness to really put herself out there in this vulnerable way.
00:31:13.000 And I learned so much.
00:31:14.000 You know, I'm just learning.
00:31:16.000 I'm fallible.
00:31:17.000 You know, all we can do is learn.
00:31:21.000 All we can do is learn, do our best.
00:31:25.000 We are all flawed individuals.
00:31:28.000 And, you know, Russia challenges us.
00:31:30.000 Russia challenges us to be better, to overcome our limitations.
00:31:35.000 Yes.
00:31:35.000 I think we, you know, Royce has said it best that when a black woman is speaking, we should listen.
00:31:42.000 We should honor.
00:31:43.000 We should listen.
00:31:44.000 Especially when a black trans woman is speaking.
00:31:46.000 It's not our job to get in the way.
00:31:47.000 It's not our job to center our white fragility in all of this.
00:31:52.000 Yeah.
00:31:52.000 Yeah.
00:31:53.000 And don't do those white supremacist things like, you know, using logic or, you know, politeness.
00:32:01.000 Don't be overly polite.
00:32:02.000 Just let her, let that queen talk.
00:32:05.000 And we should disagree with everything.
00:32:08.000 The world has lived under the white cis hetero patriarchy for long enough, Andrew.
00:32:12.000 I completely, man, if that doesn't sum it up, I don't know what will.
00:32:17.000 I just think it's shocking, Blake, that the WNBA had a big meeting yesterday and was unable to come up with a conclusion of what is a woman.
00:32:28.000 And in that lack of decisiveness, then I totally believe that Ennis Cantor Freedom and Royce White.
00:32:38.000 Should 100% be eligible for the 2027 draft.
00:32:42.000 And if they are not, then there is not justice.
00:32:45.000 This is the most un American story I've ever heard if the WNBA comes out against them.
00:32:50.000 What say you, Blake?
00:32:51.000 Well, first of all, I think it's definitely proof that this is a women's basketball league, that they were able to announce a big meeting and have all of their leaders come together and hear everyone's point of view and affirm everyone's feelings and make sure everyone was heard and then not reach any actual decision.
00:33:06.000 They'll have to have another meeting about it.
00:33:08.000 Definitely sounds like a lot of other.
00:33:13.000 Women centered entities that I've been adjacent to in my life.
00:33:16.000 I have to say, that's completely, it's like the Longhouse made manifest here.
00:33:22.000 I have to say, Roy Shah White is much more of a woman than many of the so called trans women that I have seen on the news being supported by outlets like CNN and MS Now, being championed by the New York Times and ABC, NBC, CBS.
00:33:37.000 Roy Shah is as much of a woman and deserves their respect and the proper gendering.
00:33:43.000 Is anybody else?
00:33:44.000 Now, I want to be clear.
00:33:45.000 You know, Royce has been up against it on social media, like a lot, right?
00:33:50.000 I mean, we can pull up some of these tweets.
00:33:54.000 241.
00:33:55.000 Look at Isaiah Martin.
00:33:57.000 I see that buffoon, Royce White, that bum I cooked on the Stephen A. Smith show, and who also had a very unsuccessful career in the NBA.
00:34:04.000 Yeah, but Royce White had a very successful career in Canada, was like MVP, massive triple doubles, all that stuff.
00:34:13.000 Royce Replies, I've been misgendered and den-named by the Democrats for days now.
00:34:18.000 That is what hate looks like, boo-boo.
00:34:20.000 You really need to do some soul searching and figure out why you're still living in cisgender bigotry.
00:34:25.000 Amen, Queen.
00:34:26.000 Black trans lives matter.
00:34:28.000 We have always mattered.
00:34:29.000 We will always matter.
00:34:30.000 If you don't refer to me as Queen, you hate black women.
00:34:33.000 Royce, White for U.S. Senate, Minnesota 2026.
00:34:36.000 Slay Queens.
00:34:37.000 I completely agree.
00:34:39.000 I mean, she's got a great point here.
00:34:40.000 I need to pause and call someone out.
00:34:43.000 I need to call out.
00:34:44.000 Danny on our team, Danny, you're getting called out live on air because you are not okay.
00:34:49.000 You said, I want to know if I can bet on his overs in the league.
00:34:53.000 Danny's a bigot.
00:34:56.000 I don't think we can ever have him around again.
00:34:58.000 Danny, don't misgender.
00:35:00.000 That's hateful stuff.
00:35:02.000 Another tweet here from Royce 240.
00:35:05.000 This is him with two other beautiful queens.
00:35:07.000 Said, Three strong, beautiful black women.
00:35:09.000 My mother, who gave birth to me, 10 pounds, nine ounces, no epidural.
00:35:13.000 She's struggling with my transition, naturally.
00:35:15.000 I'm kidding.
00:35:16.000 She's been very supportive.
00:35:17.000 The other is my baby sister, going into her last year of college as a Division I athlete.
00:35:21.000 I helped raise her, and she has put a lot of time into the game of basketball, a crazy career, state titles, lost to COVID shutdowns, back surgery, grueling workouts with me.
00:35:30.000 She's starting her master's program.
00:35:31.000 We're very proud of her and will protect her at all costs.
00:35:34.000 Maybe her and I will be drafted together.
00:35:36.000 Wouldn't that be something?
00:35:38.000 Can you imagine that?
00:35:39.000 Royce White and his baby sister getting drafted together in the WNBA.
00:35:44.000 I mean, you know, there's a lot of hate out there, there's a lot of negativity.
00:35:49.000 But then you got people like Royce White who are pioneering a new way and showing this is still the land of opportunity.
00:35:54.000 America is still the greatest country in the history of the world because guess what?
00:35:59.000 Trans, black, lesbians like Royce White can still make it in America and his baby sister.
00:36:07.000 And that's the opportunity the WNBA has afforded us.
00:36:10.000 That is what George Washington crossed the Delaware for.
00:36:14.000 It's what Abraham Lincoln guided us through the Civil War for.
00:36:17.000 It's what Teddy Roosevelt launched a square deal for.
00:36:20.000 It's what Patton fought at the Battle of the Bulge for.
00:36:24.000 I wish we had an American flag that could start waving behind me because this is probably the most American thing I've ever seen in my life.
00:36:30.000 Yeah, I totally agree.
00:36:32.000 This is what the founders wanted.
00:36:34.000 And obviously, that and Muslim cultural centers in our governments and late term abortions.
00:36:41.000 I think what we're seeing in hour one, Blake, is a manifestation of the founder's vision for America.
00:36:47.000 And it's embodied by brave trans black lesbians like Royce White and his baby sister, who apparently seems to be cis, but we don't want to judge.
00:36:57.000 But that's fine.
00:36:57.000 Three black queens right there.
00:37:00.000 Man, this has been an hour.
00:37:02.000 I don't even know what to make of this.
00:37:04.000 And I just, you please forgive me in the audience as I learn, as I adapt, as I evolve.
00:37:09.000 I'm trying to be better.
00:37:10.000 I want to be better.
00:37:12.000 I want to be better for the next generation.
00:37:13.000 So give us your emails, your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:37:17.000 Let us know what you think of Roy Show White's journey and whether or not the WNBA should be more open and inclusive to her journey as a trans, lesbian, black queen.
00:37:32.000 I had the honor of a lifetime to call Charlie a friend.
00:37:37.000 And what I remember most wasn't just what people saw on stage, it was What was behind the scenes?
00:37:43.000 That was an unwavering commitment to his faith, his love for his family, and his genuine desire to encourage others to live with courage and conviction.
00:37:52.000 Charlie believed that following Christ wasn't something you compartmentalize.
00:37:56.000 He didn't put it in a box, he lived it out loud.
00:37:59.000 It shaped how he lived, how he served, how he treated people every single day.
00:38:03.000 Charlie Kirk, American Martyr, captures that heart.
00:38:06.000 This documentary isn't just simply about remembering Charlie, it's an invitation for each of us to ask what kind of legacy we're building.
00:38:14.000 And whether we're willing to stand firm in our own faith when it's tested.
00:38:18.000 I hope that you'll watch it with your family and have those conversations together.
00:38:22.000 Go to angel.comslash Kirk.
00:38:24.000 That's angel.comslash Kirk.
00:38:26.000 Become an Angel Guild member.
00:38:28.000 Watch Charlie Kirk, American Martyr, and help bring more stories of faith, courage, and conviction to audiences around the world.
00:38:38.000 Hour two is underway.
00:38:39.000 And if this is going to feel like a bit of an emotional.
00:38:45.000 Psychological whiplash.
00:38:46.000 I apologize, but we're not talking about Royce White in the WNBA.
00:38:49.000 We're talking about wolves in white coats that have been coming after kids.
00:38:54.000 All right.
00:38:54.000 To set us up in our next guest, let's go ahead and play SOT 21.
00:38:58.000 Today, HHS released Wolves in White Coats, a report examining pediatric gender medicine and insurance building across America.
00:39:07.000 The findings raise serious questions about what families were told, what insurers were told, and how these procedures were built.
00:39:15.000 Today, Secretary Kennedy and I referred hospitals and clinics identified by this review to the Department of Justice and the HHS Inspector General for possible violations of federal law.
00:39:28.000 These allegations are crazy and they demand investigation.
00:39:32.000 When children may have been harmed and families misled, it's on those of us in power to find the truth and to seek justice for kids who are harmed by these doctors.
00:39:43.000 Together, we're going to protect our children and importantly, we're going to restore trust in public health.
00:39:49.000 And we will hold accountable anyone who would betray that trust.
00:39:53.000 Joining us now is Admiral Brian Christine, Assistant Secretary for Health from the Department of HHS, joining us now to tell us the details.
00:40:01.000 Breaking story.
00:40:02.000 Thank you so much for joining us.
00:40:04.000 This feels very, very important.
00:40:07.000 Can you lay out what you have found and what you're reporting in this new report?
00:40:13.000 What these hospitals are doing, what ages are involved?
00:40:16.000 The floor is yours.
00:40:17.000 No, thank you so much for allowing me to be on with you all today.
00:40:20.000 It really is a privilege.
00:40:21.000 It's certainly a privilege to serve President Trump and the American people as the Assistant Secretary for Health and to work with Secretary Kennedy and, of course, working with Vice President Vance on this particular project.
00:40:33.000 But, you know, in the last 10 or 15 years, what we've seen is really an explosion.
00:40:38.000 And the number of individuals who identify as transgender and who seek sex rejecting procedures, castrating chemicals, and mutilating surgeries.
00:40:48.000 And this report realizes that.
00:40:49.000 And we realize too that we're seeing explosion in the numbers, but also a disproportionately high number of minors who are identifying as transgender and seeking these sex rejecting procedures, particularly young girls.
00:41:02.000 The report looks at this and the report says, okay, what's going on here?
00:41:07.000 And the report has different sections.
00:41:09.000 One of the sections looks at the Potential financial gain that gender affirming, so called gender affirming clinics can have in terms of getting these kids on these sex rejecting procedures and chemicals, keeping them as patients for a long period of time.
00:41:25.000 There's potential financial gain.
00:41:28.000 You know, if you get a child on cross sex hormones, in other words, testosterone for little girls or estrogens for little boys, that's really $500 to $700 per year per person in terms of cost and the billing for this.
00:41:44.000 If you do sex rejecting mutilating surgeries, that goes up into the hundreds of thousands of dollars.
00:41:50.000 So, there really is a financial aspect to this.
00:41:52.000 There's also a potential fraud encoding aspect.
00:41:56.000 In other words, these gender affirming clinics, these clinics that offer these sex rejecting procedures, they would use medical codes that potentially are fraudulent to get reimbursement for these procedures.
00:42:10.000 That's part of the report.
00:42:12.000 Part of the report looks at the Biden administration, what they did.
00:42:16.000 To use the heavy hand of government to advance this horrible gender ideology to push kids towards sex rejecting procedures.
00:42:25.000 Again, castrating chemicals and mutilating surgeries.
00:42:28.000 The report also looks at some of the medical societies that have been pushing this the Endocrine Society, something called the World Professional Association for Transgender Health, the American Psychological Association, all of these individuals, staffed with ideologues.
00:42:47.000 That didn't want to take care of these kids with mental health care and counseling, which is what they need, but instead pushing them towards sex rejecting procedures.
00:42:57.000 And the last part of the report looks at eight young individuals, eight minors, and their families who went through these horrible sex rejecting procedures and then said, you know what?
00:43:09.000 This isn't right.
00:43:10.000 I've done wrong.
00:43:11.000 I want to stop the treatments.
00:43:12.000 I want to try to detransition back.
00:43:14.000 And they were virtually abandoned.
00:43:16.000 by the same individuals who shoved them in this direction.
00:43:19.000 So this report is extensive.
00:43:21.000 It's incredibly well written.
00:43:23.000 It was produced.
00:43:24.000 It was really produced through me.
00:43:26.000 I mean, through my office, the Office of the Assistant Secretary of Rope.
00:43:29.000 We commissioned this report.
00:43:30.000 We're really proud of it.
00:43:31.000 A lot of tremendous individuals contributed to it.
00:43:34.000 We're very happy.
00:43:35.000 We're very thrilled that the courageous detransition and their families were willing to speak.
00:43:41.000 There's also a short video documentary that goes along with the report.
00:43:45.000 So there's a lot to it.
00:43:46.000 I know that was a long answer, but there you go.
00:43:49.000 No, no, no, no.
00:43:49.000 That's great.
00:43:50.000 And I just think it's just horrifying that there would be a financial incentive to transition young people before they're even adults.
00:44:01.000 We're not talking Royce White in the WNBA, who is, you know, in his 30s, her 30s, I should say.
00:44:07.000 But this is, I want to play this clip.
00:44:09.000 This is Clementine Breen.
00:44:11.000 She shares her experience with puberty blockers.
00:44:13.000 It's terrible.
00:44:14.000 I just watched this clip in the break, and it's terrible.
00:44:17.000 SOC 22.
00:44:18.000 So, Before we start the questions, tell me a little bit about yourself.
00:44:22.000 My name is Clementine.
00:44:23.000 I'm from Los Angeles.
00:44:25.000 I'm 21 years old as well.
00:44:26.000 What are some of the health problems that you experienced while you were on treatments and after surgery?
00:44:32.000 And I know that's probably a tough question, but thank you for talking about it.
00:44:35.000 Yeah, of course.
00:44:36.000 Obviously, I dealt with a lot of complications from being on puberty blockers before I hit puberty.
00:44:42.000 I have constant joint pain and bone density loss as well.
00:44:46.000 They didn't explain to me the potential lifelong consequences.
00:44:50.000 That's just so.
00:44:51.000 Nobody should be having a conversation.
00:44:53.000 I mean, she is a, yeah.
00:44:55.000 I'm sorry.
00:44:55.000 She's such a beautiful young lady, so courageous to speak.
00:44:58.000 But what she was saying there is a common theme with these detransitioners.
00:45:03.000 They and their families so often were never properly counseled about the potential downsides and the risks.
00:45:12.000 They were never offered compassionate, comprehensive mental health care.
00:45:16.000 They were led down a road and then they were abandoned.
00:45:19.000 I mean, it's so messed up.
00:45:20.000 The puberty blocker thing really troubled me while it was happening.
00:45:23.000 It troubles me to this day.
00:45:25.000 Where it was just shoved out there that it's a pause button for people who are uncertain and you can resume it at any time when the reality is puberty is a specific time in your life.
00:45:37.000 And if you block it, you just skip past it, you are basically going to render yourself a child for the rest of your life in a lot of ways.
00:45:47.000 And they just lied to them.
00:45:47.000 I'm looking at this chart.
00:45:48.000 Throw up that chart I sent you guys that you mentioned how they were using fraudulent codes.
00:45:53.000 So this chart is yearly reimbursement for.
00:45:56.000 Puberty blockers in Pennsylvania, and it was when they said it was for precocious puberty because the valid reason to block these is because some people hit puberty when they're four or five.
00:46:05.000 They shouldn't be there yet, so you block it.
00:46:07.000 And they're flagging here that in Pennsylvania, hundreds of kids were being given precocious puberty treatments when they were 14 years or older.
00:46:16.000 That's when you're supposed to hit puberty.
00:46:18.000 And millions of dollars are spent on this.
00:46:22.000 Thousands of people are affected.
00:46:24.000 I'm just boiling with rage.
00:46:26.000 These people should be in prison.
00:46:28.000 No, and you point out something so important with that graph.
00:46:31.000 Again, using these puberty blockers in an age group that by definition is not precocious puberty.
00:46:39.000 And like you said, precocious puberty is the early onset of puberty.
00:46:43.000 Generally, it's under the age of eight for girls, under the age of nine for boys.
00:46:47.000 And here you are, these teenage kids who are getting puberty blockers for, quote, precocious puberty.
00:46:53.000 Again, potentially fraudulent billing to try to get reimbursement.
00:46:58.000 Just looking at the individuals, the reimbursement and the billing for a segment of individuals in that 13 to 17 age group who were coded for precocious puberty, which makes no sense.
00:47:11.000 From the years 2015 to 2025, over $11 million in potentially fraudulent billing.
00:47:17.000 Big business we're talking here.
00:47:20.000 Yeah.
00:47:20.000 Admiral, this is so great what you're doing.
00:47:23.000 And it kind of strikes me as similar to what we're seeing in the DEI space with colleges.
00:47:28.000 They just change the name, they bill it under a different, you know, whatever subhead.
00:47:33.000 And then they get to continue on with an ideological activist bent to their health care that's hurting people.
00:47:41.000 That Americans largely voted against.
00:47:44.000 And so you guys are doing hero's work here exposing the fraud that's harming America's children.
00:47:50.000 So God bless you.
00:47:52.000 I hope this is just everywhere.
00:47:53.000 I hope this gets headlines everywhere.
00:47:54.000 You guys deserve it.
00:47:55.000 Thank you so much, Admiral.
00:47:57.000 Thank you.
00:47:57.000 Thank you.
00:47:58.000 God bless y'all and God bless our Republican President Trump.
00:48:00.000 All right, Blake, let's take it to the emails.
00:48:06.000 How are we doing over there?
00:48:07.000 Oh, we're doing great.
00:48:08.000 First of all, before we dive into all of the Roy Shah ones, I want to shout out Troy.
00:48:14.000 Was it Troy here?
00:48:15.000 Whoops.
00:48:16.000 No, sorry, it was someone else.
00:48:17.000 It was Buddy said, dang it, I keep missing the right one here.
00:48:21.000 Someone actually emailed us about the Y Refi Power Cube, and he says that I must protect it because an imposter may try to reclaim it.
00:48:30.000 And so I'm going to protect the Y Refi Power Cube thing.
00:48:33.000 No, hold on.
00:48:34.000 Lee says the YPCT, which is Y Refi Power Cube thingy, historic past and ownership is clouded in mystery.
00:48:42.000 The YPCT's final destiny is yet to be revealed, but one fact we do know is that it has made its way to you, Blake.
00:48:49.000 Beware, Blake.
00:48:50.000 Many undeserving and questionable imposters, Andrew, will make a fallacious claim of ownership.
00:48:55.000 It's not by happenstance that the YPCT has found its way to you.
00:48:59.000 I'm going to protect the person.
00:49:02.000 You obviously don't know what you're talking about, Lee.
00:49:05.000 Listen, even though you watch this show, doesn't mean you're right, okay?
00:49:08.000 And that's one example of it.
00:49:09.000 What other emails?
00:49:10.000 We got a lot.
00:49:11.000 We got a lot.
00:49:12.000 I liked Buddy, who said of Raisha, the only thing better would be if you had exited the comfort of your bigoted chairs and done that story from one knee.
00:49:23.000 Do better next time.
00:49:25.000 Amen, buddy.
00:49:26.000 We are always trying to improve.
00:49:30.000 We're imperfect people.
00:49:31.000 We ask for you to be merciful.
00:49:34.000 Troy says, That was the best interview with Roisha White I have seen yet.
00:49:39.000 How did you keep a straight face?
00:49:41.000 Well, we have our straight faces here.
00:49:44.000 That's why we have to be respectful.
00:49:45.000 It's very clear.
00:49:46.000 In my cis straightness, I felt like that was the least I could do for Roisha and her gender journey, right?
00:49:56.000 And I, you know, I'm learning.
00:49:57.000 I'm evolving.
00:49:59.000 I want to be supportive of black trans lesbians and their journey.
00:50:02.000 And that's the bottom line.
00:50:04.000 I think we all need to do better out there, buddy.
00:50:07.000 Paul.
00:50:07.000 Did we get any emails on the surrogacy stuff?
00:50:11.000 A lot.
00:50:12.000 We got a lot.
00:50:12.000 Let's see.
00:50:13.000 We got to make sure.
00:50:14.000 Let's see.
00:50:15.000 We got a bunch of those.
00:50:18.000 Bernard points out in the Catholic Church, we are taught that surrogacy is a great moral evil.
00:50:23.000 That is correct.
00:50:24.000 That's what I was alluding to.
00:50:25.000 What the Catholic Church, you know, consistently says is that.
00:50:30.000 Having babies other than the conventional traditional way, it commoditizes human life.
00:50:36.000 It treats individual human beings as a thing that you manufacture, as a thing that is bought and sold, and that it is an evil thing.
00:50:46.000 That's why you're actually also told not to do IVF as an example.
00:50:49.000 And I know that's controversial with a lot of people, but that is the church's point of view.
00:50:55.000 Peggy says My thoughts on surrogacy and IVF are they are against God's plan.
00:51:01.000 So here we have a couple who had problems having a baby.
00:51:04.000 Now they have a surrogate mother.
00:51:05.000 The baby is not perfect by their standards.
00:51:08.000 So, they wanted to dispose of the child.
00:51:11.000 I say they don't deserve a child, and maybe that is why they were unable to have one in the first place.
00:51:17.000 I mean, that's even part of it.
00:51:18.000 We say people who are unable to, but let's be blunt.
00:51:21.000 There are people who use surrogates because they just don't want to go through with pregnancy, the mom thinks it'll be draining, it'll make her less attractive.
00:51:30.000 Those are reasons people do that sort of thing.
00:51:33.000 And we see the ultimate outcome of those things, which is the discarding of.
00:51:38.000 Of a human life because it's broken.
00:51:40.000 It's not perfect.
00:51:42.000 I should say, because we have a few people, someone says, you know, someone, Rachel, spoke for a lot of people.
00:51:49.000 Blake, what the heck is going on?
00:51:51.000 This has to be fake, right?
00:51:53.000 So we should clarify because we did get a few emails from people.
00:51:56.000 Yes, that segment was satirical.
00:51:58.000 Yes, we are not in favor of men and women's sports.
00:52:02.000 I'm standing with my black, trans, lesbian queens.
00:52:05.000 I'm getting better, Blake.
00:52:07.000 1 Timothy 2 15 states, Yet she will be saved through childbearing if they continue in faith and love and holiness with self control.
00:52:14.000 People hate that verse, by the way.
00:52:16.000 It's like one of the most, it's like right up there with women submit to your husbands.
00:52:19.000 There is something profound, though, that happens to a woman that raises and fosters life inside of her womb and gives birth to that baby.
00:52:30.000 There's something profound and divine that happens.
00:52:33.000 And so don't run away from 1 Timothy 2 15, women.
00:52:37.000 Yet she will be saved through childbearing if they continue in faith and love and holiness with self control.
00:52:42.000 It is largely considered one of the most.
00:52:44.000 Difficult and debated verses in the New Testament, and yet it's in there.
00:52:48.000 So don't deny the verses.
00:52:49.000 Don't hate me for telling you what the Bible is saying.
00:52:54.000 But childbearing is a beautiful thing, right?
00:52:57.000 It is something that transforms people.
00:52:59.000 And so if you're going to farm it out, rent a womb, you are missing the journey, it's part of the entire goal of this whole thing, right?
00:53:12.000 The journey, it's not the destination sometimes.
00:53:14.000 It's not getting the baby.
00:53:15.000 That's Really beautiful and everything.
00:53:16.000 Don't get me wrong.
00:53:17.000 I have three kids myself and it's beautiful and I love them.
00:53:20.000 But the process of a husband and wife going through that journey together is so important.
00:53:25.000 Now, my heart goes out to people that are not able to have their own child.
00:53:30.000 It genuinely goes out to them.
00:53:31.000 And so that's why I stated earlier, and I'm going to vow to this audience that I will educate myself on a final determination.
00:53:38.000 I'm not yet ready to say that I want to ban it all, but man, I'm super tempted to.
00:53:43.000 But I got to look into it more and talk.
00:53:46.000 To talk to some folks, but I'm super tempted to because it just feels unnatural.
00:53:49.000 It feels weird.
00:53:50.000 And I'm not in support of gay couples doing it 100%.
00:53:54.000 I think we so often put the needs, wants, and concerns of adults way ahead of the needs, wants, and concerns of children.
00:54:03.000 Why don't we stop asking what is in the best interest of the adults and start asking what's in the best interest of children?
00:54:08.000 And they deserve a mom and a dad.
00:54:11.000 They do.
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00:55:13.000 With us now is Colin Plume from Noble Gold.
00:55:16.000 He's our resident financial expert.
00:55:18.000 He gives us the lowdown on the economy, and he also can help you with precious metals, of course.
00:55:23.000 But Colin, you wanted to come on in a testament to Winston Churchill, which I thought was beautiful.
00:55:30.000 And on August 20th, it's going to be the anniversary of the Few speech.
00:55:35.000 And this is the Battle of Britain with that famous, famous line where never was so much owed by so many to so few.
00:55:44.000 Tell us why this means so much to you and why you wanted to come on to discuss it.
00:55:48.000 Yeah, well, good to see you guys.
00:55:50.000 Blake, I thought this would be fun.
00:55:52.000 I know we always get into precious metals, which I love to talk about, and we can tie it in later.
00:55:57.000 But the reason I wanted to talk about this is a few things.
00:56:01.000 One, it's the 250th anniversary of our country, and there are so many documentaries.
00:56:07.000 Talking about our presidents, talking about World War II.
00:56:11.000 I think literally almost every night for the past six months, I've been watching some of these.
00:56:15.000 And Charlie and I had some conversations about Churchill.
00:56:19.000 And so I've been watching a lot about Churchill.
00:56:20.000 And I think it's important to think about these things and think about Churchill.
00:56:26.000 And it's the 86th anniversary of this very famous speech.
00:56:32.000 And yeah, Blake, what are your thoughts on Churchill, Charlie?
00:56:36.000 I know I'm sure you had a lot of conversations.
00:56:39.000 It's funny because now you have.
00:56:40.000 Some people on the right love to dump on Churchill, but Charlie was always a big fan.
00:56:44.000 And I think you can, in fact, I'm looking, I was looking around here.
00:56:47.000 We have a Winston Churchill kind of plaster head, and it's got headphones on up there.
00:56:52.000 If I gesture over this way, we have Winston Churchill reading one of his radio addresses.
00:56:56.000 There might be another Churchill thing somewhere around here, but we have a surprising amount of it.
00:57:01.000 He really liked him.
00:57:02.000 And I think it's because Churchill embodied a spirit that Charlie loved.
00:57:07.000 You think of, we've been discussing this week, is America able to.
00:57:11.000 Make sacrifices in order to achieve a better country in the future.
00:57:16.000 Like, for example, are we able to do deportations if it means a burrito will be slightly more expensive due to labor costs?
00:57:22.000 And I look at some of Churchill's speeches, not even the one we're marking on here, but he goes to the House of Commons and says, I have nothing to offer you but blood, toil, tears, and sweat.
00:57:33.000 And he's saying, We will fight them on the beaches, we will fight them in the hills and trees and in the landing grounds, we shall never surrender.
00:57:41.000 Charlie loved that line.
00:57:43.000 Never surrender.
00:57:45.000 But we're talking about the few speech, which is another thing that Charlie could always respect the idea that it could be a handful of people who are holding the line between civilization and its destruction.
00:57:59.000 So let's play the clip.
00:58:00.000 I think we got it loaded here.
00:58:02.000 Let's play 23.
00:58:05.000 The gratitude of every home in our island, in our empire, and indeed throughout the world, except in the abodes of the guilty.
00:58:14.000 Goes out to the British airmen who, undaunted by odds, unwearied in their constant challenge and mortal danger, are turning the tide of the World War by their prowess and by their devotion.
00:58:29.000 Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.
00:58:38.000 It's a great quote, and he came up actually.
00:58:41.000 He said it, it just came out of him.
00:58:43.000 A lot of people aren't aware it came out of him four days earlier.
00:58:46.000 He was just watching what was happening with the war, and it just that quote came out, and then he realized, I need to use this in his speech.
00:58:55.000 And really, you know, for people who don't know, that the pilots.
00:59:00.000 During the war for Great Britain, I mean, they really saved them.
00:59:03.000 If the pilots weren't so sophisticated and so good at their job, the war could have turned because they really, the pilots are the ones that kept the Nazis out.
00:59:15.000 And so he was giving praise to them.
00:59:17.000 He also gives praise to the guys on the ground that were also helping the pilots.
00:59:24.000 It's just a really amazing speech.
00:59:27.000 Also, the thing about Charlie that I wanted to touch on is something happened he mentioned, he talked about Churchill.
00:59:34.000 After the FBI searched Mar a Lago.
00:59:37.000 And he has a famous quote.
00:59:38.000 And I think this quote and what it means is really kind of sums up Charlie in a lot of ways.
00:59:43.000 His quote Charlie said, How do we channel these famous words to determine what we, conservative dissidents, should do next peacefully?
00:59:55.000 And I think that's a lot of what Charlie was about how do we not agree and how do we talk about it?
01:00:03.000 How do we have these conversations?
01:00:06.000 And still be able to move past it and have this open dialogue.
01:00:09.000 And so that quote really sits with me this idea of Charlie and why, like Churchill, and really, Churchill kept Great Britain, they kept the war going a lot of it through his will, a lot of it through his words, a lot of it through his belief, which is sort of what you were alluding to, Blake.
01:00:27.000 People don't realize that he was trying to keep this, he knew that we had to stay, he had to keep fighting.
01:00:34.000 People in Great Britain, they wanted to.
01:00:36.000 A lot of the people in parliament wanted to do a peace agreement with Hitler.
01:00:40.000 They wanted to do it, obviously.
01:00:41.000 Oh, 100%.
01:00:43.000 I think that's worth providing the historical context there.
01:00:46.000 If you haven't seen the movie Darkest Hour, it's imperfect history, but it gets the general vibe, which is Churchill, for example, wasn't even the first pick as prime minister.
01:00:54.000 There was another guy, Lord Halifax, who was another contender, and he favored, or at least he was much more open to negotiating with Hitler.
01:01:02.000 This is the situation Germany has conquered Poland, they've conquered the Netherlands, they've conquered Belgium.
01:01:08.000 Norway, Denmark, they are steamrolling France.
01:01:12.000 They look invincible.
01:01:14.000 And yes, Britain has this big empire, but it's all centered on this little island that's just standing alone off the coast of Europe.
01:01:22.000 And a lot of people would say, make peace.
01:01:23.000 John F. Kennedy's father was saying, I think they need to make peace.
01:01:26.000 A lot of people thought so.
01:01:28.000 And Churchill said, no, Hitler is an enemy of civilization.
01:01:32.000 He will drag all of Europe into the abyss.
01:01:35.000 We will fight him to the bitter end if we must, but we are able to win this.
01:01:40.000 And I just like to provide all of that context because.
01:01:43.000 People love to blackpill all of the time.
01:01:46.000 And Charlie was a fighter.
01:01:47.000 Charlie was one who always believed, never surrender, as Churchill would say, go down to the bitter end.
01:01:53.000 And he would love to remind people it's been worse than this before.
01:01:57.000 And there have been great men in the past.
01:01:59.000 And you, you, the person watching, the person listening to this, can be one of those great people who steps in the line today.
01:02:06.000 Well, Churchill delivered this famous address to the House of Commons on August 20th, 1940.
01:02:12.000 Okay.
01:02:13.000 And what he was doing, he was praising the Royal Air Force fighter pilots who fought the German, you're going to have to help me with the Luftwaffe, day and night.
01:02:22.000 So, this was an aerial dogfight.
01:02:24.000 And you had these young British boys that, like, you know, had just been pulled off the street not too long ago.
01:02:29.000 And here they are engaging in dogfights with the most formidable Air Force in the world at that point.
01:02:35.000 And France had just fallen, Blake, in June of 1940.
01:02:40.000 So, two months later.
01:02:41.000 Not even just France has fallen, but it's giving.
01:02:44.000 This is Britain's experience every day.
01:02:46.000 German planes fly over London, bomb it, fly to Coventry, bomb it.
01:02:50.000 And that's who the few are.
01:02:51.000 A few fighter pilots are all they have.
01:02:54.000 They literally only have a few hundred of these, they are their only defense against this vast continent's resources being thrown at them.
01:03:04.000 And Blake, I got to give a shout out.
01:03:08.000 This was the last surviving Royal Air Force fighter of the few.
01:03:12.000 255, throw this up.
01:03:13.000 This was John Patty Hemingway.
01:03:15.000 The last surviving pilot of the Battle of Britain passed away at the age of 105.
01:03:21.000 Look at that guy in his wheelchair right in front of one of those planes.
01:03:25.000 He was one of the few.
01:03:26.000 And that was, he died last May in 2025.
01:03:29.000 Colin, yes, please.
01:03:30.000 Yeah.
01:03:31.000 To give context, Britain had 750 planes and German had 2,550 planes.
01:03:37.000 I mean, this was a real, we were, Britain was outmatched, right?
01:03:42.000 In terms of just total manpower.
01:03:45.000 But they had a belief.
01:03:46.000 And they had a belief in something good and they knew they needed to continue to fight.
01:03:51.000 And Churchill, you know, this idea of the few, he was the few, right?
01:03:54.000 I mean, the U.S. was still not engaged in this war.
01:03:59.000 He was, you know, doing everything he can to get the United States engaged in this war because he knew that it was the right thing.
01:04:06.000 And he knew he needed the United States, he needed our manpower, he needed us to get involved.
01:04:11.000 And obviously, we were unfortunately, we did get involved, or fortunately, depending on what side you're on, but we did get involved after Pearl Harbor.
01:04:19.000 So, I think that it's this idea of continuing this belief.
01:04:25.000 And I will say, I do think it's a lot of what you guys are doing on your show you're continuing this belief when there's a lot of things happening around you that make it difficult.
01:04:36.000 And you guys take a lot of heat, but yet you're continuing this mission of Charlie.
01:04:43.000 And that was really why I wanted to talk about this today, I just think it's sometimes really hard with everything happening out there, everything that's going on.
01:04:53.000 In your guys' world, to continue to kind of push forward and do the right thing and say the right things and be above the fray, right?
01:05:00.000 Like, I think that's the hardest thing.
01:05:02.000 You know, Andrew, you and I have talked about this.
01:05:03.000 Like, how do you stay rise above all this?
01:05:06.000 And I think you guys are doing that.
01:05:07.000 And that's why I wanted to talk about Churchill because he had this drive.
01:05:12.000 And that's what I miss about Charlie, frankly, is I miss that drive, just our conversations, that energy that he could just continue to push down no matter what was happening around him.
01:05:24.000 And yeah, I miss that from him.
01:05:29.000 Churchill's speech was given at a time when it seemed as if there was no hope.
01:05:33.000 London was being bombed relentlessly.
01:05:36.000 Churchill took to radio and said, We will never surrender.
01:05:39.000 We'll fight on the beaches, we'll fight on the landing grounds.
01:05:43.000 What was Churchill really articulating there?
01:05:46.000 Churchill was articulating a doctrine and a commitment of the will.
01:05:53.000 What Churchill was articulating is that you might outnumber us, you might have better technology.
01:05:59.000 But the resolve of the British people will not be broken.
01:06:04.000 Without Churchill, I believe the United Kingdom would have sued for peace.
01:06:08.000 Took someone like Churchill, a remarkably wise and charismatic person who was exiled at an early age, but was brought back when people needed him.
01:06:19.000 There it is.
01:06:20.000 That's obviously Charlie talking about the Never Surrender speech, which is another famous Churchill speech.
01:06:25.000 So after this dogfight, Hitler and the Nazis were so frustrated by the British that they ended up engaging in the Blitz, right?
01:06:34.000 And that's what Churchill's responding to there.
01:06:38.000 They said, We'll never surrender, even though every night everybody has to rush down into the bomb shelters and Run for cover in the tube and the subways of London.
01:06:46.000 It was a truly remarkable display of fortitude and courage.
01:06:50.000 And Blake, I can't help but think about this roofing comment.
01:06:55.000 It's going viral right now on the internet.
01:06:57.000 One of Charlie's last speeches to a roofers' convention.
01:07:00.000 And he's asking them, Are you willing to sacrifice a little bit for our sovereignty to restore the rule of law?
01:07:06.000 And these roofers are like, We won't have enough people to put roofs on houses.
01:07:11.000 And it just strikes me of the World War II spirit.
01:07:15.000 And you can say, look around.
01:07:16.000 Is the same country, same civilization still standing that's worth putting your life on the line?
01:07:20.000 And that's, listen, I don't begrudge anybody asking that question, but this is my home.
01:07:24.000 This is your home, Colin.
01:07:25.000 This is Blake's home.
01:07:27.000 And Charlie would often say, we don't fight because we know we're going to win.
01:07:29.000 We fight because it's the right thing to do.
01:07:32.000 And I hope we still have that spirit, that fighting spirit that Churchill had, that Charlie had, in enough of us, in the hearts of enough Americans that we'll fight and sacrifice for this country.
01:07:43.000 Colin, your reaction.
01:07:45.000 Yeah, yeah, no, I think the interesting thing too, if you look at some of the great, you know, if you took it after World War II and, you know, and all those years running up, probably I would say until the mid 1970s, it was, you know, obviously they call them the greatest generation.
01:08:02.000 It was also some of the greatest wealth for individuals that we've ever seen.
01:08:09.000 And it's interesting, I think, like after we won, obviously there was devastation and there was, you know, countries that took, it took many years.
01:08:17.000 And actually, You know, Great Britain was in a really terrible place and they were the world's reserve currency.
01:08:23.000 And then in 1944, there was Bretton Woods Exchange and we became the world's reserve currency and we pegged gold at $35 an ounce to the dollar.
01:08:32.000 But there was a lot of real wealth.
01:08:35.000 And what I mean by wealth is that that was the time when one income, you know, have both parents at home, people could afford a house, you know, the gold and the dollar were tied together.
01:08:47.000 There was, after we did this, after that we took this and everyone did this unbelievable sacrifice that everyone that fought in this war.
01:08:54.000 We saw some of the greatest personal wealth for the middle class that I think arguably we've ever seen.
01:09:02.000 And that was, you know, only because we won.
01:09:05.000 If we went in a different way and we lost that war, we would have fallen under a dictatorship.
01:09:11.000 And, you know, it would have been, you know, a really terrible situation.
01:09:15.000 And obviously now we're talking socialism and all these things that people are talking about today.
01:09:19.000 But there was tremendous wealth that was built after this.
01:09:23.000 Well, you know, and it's actually a really important conversation.
01:09:27.000 And Blake, I'd love your take on this, but there is a difference between material wealth and social fabric, right?
01:09:32.000 And sometimes these two things get conflated together.
01:09:35.000 Social fabric would be like, hey, you share the values and the language of the people in your neighborhood.
01:09:40.000 You don't have to pay extra to send them to a better school.
01:09:42.000 You know that other people are going to church, celebrating Christmas, Easter, whatever.
01:09:47.000 And you do have these two family homes, and the mom can stay home, and you could send your kids to public school because they haven't gone crazy.
01:09:54.000 These are the things that social fabric is based on.
01:09:57.000 A perfect example there's a book I read.
01:09:59.000 It's a less famous one by George Orwell.
01:10:01.000 He wrote 1984, Homage to Catalonia, but he also wrote a very short book shortly after World War II that was called The English People.
01:10:08.000 And it's him describing, he actually was commissioned to do it by the government, describing the English national character.
01:10:13.000 And one of the things he brags about in this book is he talks about the Blitz.
01:10:18.000 And he said one of the remarkable things about the Blitz was you could have a man on a street corner who's selling newspapers, and he wouldn't have to worry about just leaving his papers and his money out to go somewhere else to go into a shop.
01:10:32.000 Somewhere for a moment, he could come back, he would know it would all still be there.
01:10:35.000 No one would ever think of robbing him.
01:10:37.000 He talked about how people who were running into the tube tunnels, the subway tunnels during the Blitz bombing raids, the norm was they would still buy their ticket to get into the tube area as they would do that.
01:10:51.000 And you think of them doing that while under siege, while being bombed, and you compare it, of course, to the Britain of today, which we worry so much about.
01:10:58.000 And it's because it's still a very rich country, it's got access to More goods, more wealth than it probably did at the height of World War II.
01:11:07.000 But the fabric has been messed up because they've embraced mass immigration.
01:11:10.000 They've embraced a sort of resentful crabs in a bucket socialism as well.
01:11:15.000 And now, like, a guy couldn't leave his money line out.
01:11:18.000 You can't even pull your phone out safely in London.
01:11:20.000 Someone will rob you.
01:11:22.000 Something has changed in Britain.
01:11:24.000 And it's because they threw away their post war leaders after Churchill threw away a lot of that social fabric.
01:11:31.000 Yeah, agreed.
01:11:32.000 Yeah.
01:11:32.000 And in this country, I don't know if you guys have seen this stat about there's 1,200 new millionaires every day here.
01:11:38.000 But yet, they also say that people feel less rich than they've ever felt.
01:11:42.000 And I think it's not just monetarily, I think it's this idea of the safety and what's happening in their community.
01:11:50.000 I also think they're less rich because the dollar is worth so much less.
01:11:53.000 But I do think part of it is just that social fabric that you guys are talking about is that they don't feel connected to their community the way that they used to.
01:12:03.000 A lot of it is we've gone away from having both parents' home and the household and religion.
01:12:09.000 I think a lot of this gave people structure.
01:12:11.000 That's really missing now.
01:12:13.000 People are just, they're working more, they're stretched more.
01:12:17.000 And so that's, you know, I think one of the issues today that we're running into is that just that social family fabric is really missing.
01:12:25.000 But yeah, I think it's all led up to this.
01:12:28.000 And it's, you know, I think it's just Churchill really focused on that.
01:12:31.000 Colin, I totally agree.
01:12:33.000 And I just want to reiterate this is why you are our partner in this space.
01:12:36.000 Because, you know, other groups have approached us, whatever.
01:12:38.000 We're sticking with Colin because this is like, he's good people.
01:12:41.000 And I hope, I know people can really get that.
01:12:44.000 Just by hearing you talk, Colin.
01:12:46.000 If people do want to protect their wealth, where do they go?
01:12:48.000 Tell them really quick, last 30 seconds.
01:12:50.000 Yeah.
01:12:51.000 Yeah.
01:12:51.000 Check out noblegoldinvestments.com.
01:12:53.000 You can call us, go to our website.
01:12:55.000 We have people there, the good Americans, people that believe in sound money principles, people that believe that we should get back to that situation.
01:13:06.000 Gold's up 10% over the last 30 days.
01:13:08.000 Silver's starting to move.
01:13:09.000 So I think it's a good time for people to get in.
01:13:11.000 But yeah, if they want to learn, give us a call and love to help you and get some real money when, you know, Gold is real money and get some real money in your hands.
01:13:19.000 Yeah.
01:13:19.000 And by the way, I have to correct you, Colin.
01:13:22.000 It's noblegoldinvestments.comslash Kirk.
01:13:25.000 So I just want to make sure everybody gets it right.
01:13:29.000 Colin Plume, CEO, founder of Noble Gold, a great American.
01:13:33.000 Thank you, Colin.
01:13:34.000 We'll talk to you soon.
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