The Charlie Kirk Show - August 12, 2026


Tyler Robinson's Very Revealing Defense Filing


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00:01:18.000 Good morning, everybody.
00:01:19.000 It's August 12th, 2026.
00:01:22.000 We're at the Y Refi Studios.
00:01:24.000 And oh, what a day it is.
00:01:26.000 We were planning on covering the Wisconsin election, some other elections this morning as the top of the show.
00:01:34.000 We had Rich Barris all lined up.
00:01:36.000 And then.
00:01:37.000 The defense in the Tyler Robinson case dropped a response to the state's motion when it comes to probable cause, upcoming September 1st hearing.
00:01:47.000 And wow, we've got to cover it.
00:01:50.000 So we've blown open the top of the show here.
00:01:52.000 We're going to cover what the defense is now stating in the Tyler Robinson case.
00:01:57.000 Then we're going to have Ron Johnson talking about Fauci's text in the state of Wisconsin.
00:02:01.000 We have Tom Tiffany.
00:02:03.000 So it's a great show in store for you, but we've got to start here, Blake.
00:02:07.000 This is a defense response to the state's motion.
00:02:11.000 Motion regarding probable cause in the preliminary hearing.
00:02:14.000 It's the bind over.
00:02:15.000 It's the argue for that.
00:02:17.000 And we have so much to get through.
00:02:19.000 And I'm at Blake, you have been reading voraciously this morning, trying to get the entire brief under your belt here.
00:02:24.000 But let's just start with this clip from actually, it's Fox News.
00:02:28.000 It's an attorney on the ground that's reading it.
00:02:31.000 We'll start there and get your response, Blake, on the other side.
00:02:33.000 SOT 22.
00:02:34.000 Attorneys representing Charlie Kirk's accused assassin filing a brief last night.
00:02:39.000 They argue he should not go on trial for murder.
00:02:41.000 Here's the reason.
00:02:43.000 They're arguing that much of the prosecution's case was based on hearsay testimony from Tyler Robinson's roommate.
00:02:50.000 That's the case they're making.
00:02:51.000 The apparent defense strategy here isn't to prove that Tyler Robinson didn't kill Charlie Kirk, but that he didn't intend to kill anyone else, and that therefore this should not be a death penalty case.
00:03:03.000 Filing, Robinson's lawyers argued the state has failed to establish probable cause that the shooter knowingly created a great risk of death to another other than Charlie Kirk and himself.
00:03:15.000 Exactly.
00:03:16.000 That is a bombshell.
00:03:18.000 To me, that's a bombshell.
00:03:19.000 What stands out, so this just, you know as well as I do, this just dropped on us a couple hours ago as people noticed that this had been filed and started to read it.
00:03:28.000 And what you look through, looking through it, is it's what they don't say.
00:03:34.000 So this is the defense's filing against probable cause.
00:03:37.000 So remember, we had the week long preliminary hearing.
00:03:40.000 All of this is just to establish probable cause.
00:03:42.000 We'll have this hearing on September 1st where the judge will hopefully.
00:03:46.000 Finally, rule Do they have all the evidence to proceed to trial?
00:03:50.000 So, this is a 41 page document where they're laying out their case on a whole bunch of things.
00:03:56.000 And here's what is almost entirely missing from it is any effort to contest the core charge that Tyler Robinson committed murder on September 10th of last year.
00:04:08.000 There is one page, basically one page out of 41 pages, concerns that.
00:04:13.000 They complain that they have testimony from Lance Twiggs, which is what's used to support Robinson's confession, his posts on Discord, and they say this is bolstered by hearsay because Lance Twiggs didn't testify in court.
00:04:26.000 The judge already ruled on this.
00:04:27.000 He said, since it's a Preliminary hearing.
00:04:28.000 He doesn't need to be cross examined in person.
00:04:30.000 They can do that at an actual trial.
00:04:32.000 That is the only time they're addressing evidence of murder.
00:04:37.000 After that, it's page after page, all on either subsidiary crimes like witness tampering, or they're just trying to throw out the death penalty because you can't get a death penalty for murder unless there are aggravating factors.
00:04:51.000 So in Utah, they've tried that he targeted Charlie over his political expression, and they've tried that he endangered other people at the scene.
00:04:59.000 He endangered minors at the scene based on there being a big Crowd and he was firing at a long distance.
00:05:04.000 That's the entirety of this briefing.
00:05:06.000 So there's page after page where they're arguing, well, he was like, they literally argue at length.
00:05:12.000 The shooters, the evidence shows the shooter was firing in a prone position.
00:05:16.000 So that means he was taking care with his shot and aiming really cautiously.
00:05:22.000 And so he was not really placing a lot of other people at risk.
00:05:25.000 They're basically arguing the alleged shooter was a good shot.
00:05:30.000 And so this aggravating factor should be thrown out.
00:05:33.000 They argue at length.
00:05:34.000 Only one round was fired.
00:05:36.000 And they bring in all these other cases where they say, if you're going to say he endangered other people, there should have been other people who were hit.
00:05:42.000 There should have been many rounds fired.
00:05:44.000 They fuss over, yeah, there were multiple rounds in the gun, but that doesn't prove anything.
00:05:51.000 It just proves the gun could fire more shots.
00:05:53.000 It doesn't mean they planned to endanger other people.
00:05:55.000 This is what the document focuses on.
00:05:59.000 There's absolutely nothing addressing the core facts that dominated the preliminary hearing.
00:06:06.000 This is a person who basically allowed himself to turn himself in after his parents confronted him, after they identified him from footage.
00:06:14.000 This is a person who confessed to his roommate that he did this and that he regretted doing it.
00:06:20.000 This is a person caught repeatedly on camera on the campus when it's many hours away from where he lived.
00:06:26.000 And they never, ever, ever address all of the DNA evidence linking him to the rifle, linking him to the screwdriver, linking him to the towel.
00:06:35.000 They don't address those things because it seems that the defense attorneys.
00:06:39.000 Don't have a defense to offer there.
00:06:41.000 Yeah, no, and I just want to be really clear.
00:06:43.000 And I checked with the attorneys this morning.
00:06:46.000 They are not arguing against premeditated murder.
00:06:49.000 And most people would assume that premeditated murder would warrant the death penalty.
00:06:54.000 Well, in the state of Utah, as Blake mentioned, you need aggravating factors.
00:06:57.000 So, what are those aggravating factors?
00:06:59.000 That you could have endangered a minor, you could have endangered other people, that you did it because of political reasons, you know, think hate crime.
00:07:08.000 They don't argue any of that stuff.
00:07:09.000 They're basically saying, Yeah, it was premeditated, but there was no aggravating factors.
00:07:14.000 And there were other bullets in the gun, but that's an assumption that he was intending to fire additional shots.
00:07:23.000 It's pretty wild.
00:07:24.000 So, other things that aren't in there, though, Blake, just to call it the elephant in the room, are so many of the conspiracy theories that have been rife on social media, right?
00:07:34.000 So, for example, on page 22, one of the newest things that's percolating online from the Candace Owens crowd.
00:07:42.000 Is that that wasn't really Tyler Robinson in the surveillance video?
00:07:46.000 And that the fisheye effect, you know, when you actually adjust it for the fisheye effect, it's obviously somebody different than Tyler Robinson.
00:07:53.000 Well, it turns out with a fisheye effect, the center of the image is usually pretty accurate.
00:07:58.000 It's the sides that get distorted.
00:07:59.000 So if you stretch the image, you're actually distorting the center of the image at that point.
00:08:04.000 Whatever.
00:08:04.000 That's in the weeds.
00:08:05.000 But check this out.
00:08:06.000 On page 22, it says The video evidence shows Mr. Robinson walking up and downstairs at UVU with a gait impaired by something long in his pant leg.
00:08:15.000 The reasonable inference from the evidence provided is that it was a fully assembled.
00:08:21.000 So it goes on.
00:08:21.000 The presence of a screwdriver on the roof does not establish that the rifle was taken apart or put back together any more than it establishes the screwdriver was intended to take the rifle apart after.
00:08:30.000 So they're quibbling over when the rifle was put together or taken apart and the presence of a screwdriver.
00:08:36.000 They're not even arguing that he wasn't there.
00:08:40.000 They're admitting that he was there and that the video evidence proves that he was there.
00:08:44.000 So what's fascinating on multiple levels to me is they're, yeah, the bombshell is the big.
00:08:52.000 E on the I chart, the headline is that they're not arguing that it wasn't him.
00:08:55.000 They're arguing that he doesn't deserve the death penalty.
00:08:58.000 Okay.
00:08:59.000 In my mind, this is premeditated murder.
00:09:02.000 He deserves the death penalty.
00:09:03.000 Okay.
00:09:04.000 And they're not arguing, though, that any of these conspiracy theories, they're not arguing from that perspective at all.
00:09:11.000 As a matter of fact, there's other motions that have been filed that call that stuff harebrained internet conspiracy theories.
00:09:17.000 So, you know, I just, there's so much to take away here, Blake, but you're right.
00:09:24.000 It's the dog that didn't bark.
00:09:27.000 What's not in there is extraordinary, actually.
00:09:30.000 If you're living in our existence here, for me and Blake.
00:09:34.000 All right, Blake, I got a note from Andrea Burkhart.
00:09:38.000 She has got some family stuff, and that's great.
00:09:41.000 So she wasn't able to join.
00:09:42.000 But she says, in short, the defense brief is pretty much exactly what I predicted they'd argue.
00:09:49.000 I think the one witness tampering charge gets dropped, but the aggravator sticks.
00:09:53.000 Explain this witness tampering charge, what it is, and.
00:09:59.000 The aggravators, as well.
00:10:01.000 Exactly.
00:10:01.000 So, the witness tampering is one of the secondary charges that was brought in this case.
00:10:06.000 So, obviously, the most important one is capital murder, but they did charge Robinson as well with witness tampering because in his text exchanges with Lance Twiggs prior to turning himself in, he told him basically stay silent.
00:10:22.000 You should get a lawyer.
00:10:24.000 Don't talk to police.
00:10:27.000 And a secondary part of this is basically that when he tells him to get a lawyer, He's not telling them this, so to say, shut up, don't tell them what I did.
00:10:39.000 He basically is just saying, for your own sake, you should just not talk to police.
00:10:45.000 And they basically say this is an altruistic argument.
00:10:48.000 You can't charge someone with witness tampering for telling them to exercise their constitutional rights.
00:10:54.000 And so I guess Andrea is saying they probably have a good point on that one, and it's admittedly not the charge that we care about either.
00:11:02.000 He basically just says, But I think what stands out about this is by making this argument, they are admitting Tyler Robinson was talking to Lance Twiggs.
00:11:12.000 They literally are quoting themselves.
00:11:14.000 They say, he, Mr. Robinson, says to Mr. Twiggs, I'm going to turn myself in willingly.
00:11:20.000 One of my neighbors here is a deputy for the sheriff.
00:11:22.000 We hope to keep things sort of quiet here.
00:11:25.000 I only hope they let you visit.
00:11:27.000 And he says, I'm going to miss you.
00:11:29.000 He says, I'm almost certainly going to go to prison.
00:11:33.000 All of this.
00:11:34.000 Actually, what he says is.
00:11:34.000 Twiggs asks him, Is there any way you don't go to prison?
00:11:37.000 And he says, I highly doubt it.
00:11:39.000 You are all I worry about, my love.
00:11:41.000 Don't talk to any media, please.
00:11:43.000 Don't take any interviews or make comments.
00:11:45.000 So he's basically saying, I am going to turn myself in.
00:11:48.000 I'm going to prison, but you should avoid talking to anyone and get a lawyer and try to remain silent.
00:11:54.000 And so they just say that is advising him to use his rights, doesn't count as witness tampering.
00:12:00.000 And I guess Andrea thinks they make a strong argument.
00:12:02.000 But she is optimistic that the enhancers will stick around, which are the endangerment of others and the political motivations for going after Charlie.
00:12:12.000 And again, it stands out what they don't address, for example.
00:12:16.000 I don't.
00:12:17.000 See anywhere in this document where they mention, for example, all the engravings that he made on his bullets, which are a strong indicator that he had a kind of political motivation of it.
00:12:26.000 They don't really address the fact that he says, you know, I've had enough of his hate, that he was upset by Charlie's political advocacy.
00:12:35.000 They very much want to make it seem like he, I guess, just wanted to kill Charlie because he was a celebrity, he was a famous person.
00:12:42.000 They need something like that because if there's any political aspect to this, the state of Utah is able to make the case this is aggravated murder.
00:12:50.000 It is eligible for the death penalty.
00:12:52.000 And I do want to clarify one important thing.
00:12:56.000 Our glorious Supreme Court is who's responsible for why you need these aggravating factors.
00:13:01.000 It used to be any murder by default is eligible for the death penalty.
00:13:06.000 Our glorious Supreme Court decades ago said, nope, you need these aggravating factors.
00:13:10.000 But I do think it's worth highlighting here Utah would have a lot easier time with this if they had a law, and I think every red state should have a law.
00:13:19.000 If you are doing public, Terrorism, which I think this would easily qualify as, that should be an aggravating factor unto itself.
00:13:25.000 It's insane to me that anyone could go to a big public event with a rifle, assassinate the speaker, and have it not be aggravated murder.
00:13:34.000 So that's food for thought there.
00:13:35.000 But I'm glad Andrea is optimistic that this charge will hold up.
00:13:39.000 Yeah.
00:13:39.000 And I mean, I'm just looking at these texts.
00:13:42.000 You know, I'm going to turn myself in willingly.
00:13:45.000 One of my neighbors here is a deputy for the sheriff.
00:13:47.000 We hope to keep things sort of quiet here.
00:13:50.000 I only hope they let you visit.
00:13:52.000 I'm going to miss you too.
00:13:53.000 Please be good for me.
00:13:54.000 If you need anything at all, both of my parents are willing to help you.
00:13:57.000 Please go to them.
00:13:58.000 Leave the room alone.
00:13:59.000 The feds will search it top to bottom for certain, then work with my family to sort it out and what goes where and such.
00:14:05.000 In response to Mr. Twiggs' question, is there any way you don't go to prison?
00:14:09.000 You mentioned this.
00:14:10.000 I highly doubt it.
00:14:11.000 I will update you as soon as I can.
00:14:13.000 If you need a place to stay, I'm sure my family would have you in my old room.
00:14:18.000 You are all I worry about, love.
00:14:20.000 Don't talk to any media, please.
00:14:22.000 Don't take any interviews or make comments.
00:14:24.000 I will always love you too.
00:14:25.000 I will write to you as often as possible.
00:14:27.000 If any police ask you questions, ask for a lawyer and stay silent.
00:14:31.000 Make sure the police follow the right procedures, proper warrants, and stuff.
00:14:34.000 Be polite and respectful, of course.
00:14:36.000 And then the defense says these statements by Mr. Robinson contextualize his altruistic advice to Mr. Twiggs to exercise his right under the Fifth Amendment to ask for a lawyer and stay silent.
00:14:47.000 The facts do not support the state's allegation that this statement by Mr. Robinson was made with an intent to prevent an official proceeding or investigation.
00:14:55.000 So this is.
00:14:56.000 It's all very interesting to see.
00:14:58.000 I actually happen to agree with Andrea here based on the evidence presented that witness tampering doesn't feel like that's what he was doing.
00:15:08.000 He was sort of, it seems like, resigned to the fact that he was going to be going to prison and that this was going to be a massive federal investigation and state investigation.
00:15:19.000 So that makes sense.
00:15:19.000 But your point about needing aggravating assaults, like, I'm still, my jaw's a bit on the floor.
00:15:25.000 And it took me a few minutes to kind of wrap my head around it, Blake, that.
00:15:29.000 They even have to prove aggravating factors here because he only premeditated one person and he was a good shot and shot over the heads of people, not intentionally endangering.
00:15:40.000 Like, this is crazy, actually.
00:15:42.000 Like when you step back for just a second.
00:15:45.000 Anyways, bombshell stuff here.
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00:17:14.000 All right, joining us now is Senator Ron Johnson, the great Ron Johnson from the great state of Wisconsin.
00:17:20.000 Senator, you've got.
00:17:21.000 A lot of news to get to today because you got Fauci text messages and all that stuff, but I got to get your reaction to what happened last night.
00:17:29.000 Hong did not win as many suspected she would.
00:17:33.000 All the polling suggested she would.
00:17:35.000 And now we've got Crowley, who's going up against Tom Tiffany, who joins us at the top of the next hour, by the way.
00:17:40.000 What do you make of it?
00:17:41.000 Well, first of all, having run three statewide elections here in Wisconsin, I'll verify the fact that you can't trust the polls.
00:17:48.000 I would have closed up a shop a long time ago.
00:17:50.000 I actually looked at them.
00:17:51.000 So set those aside.
00:17:53.000 I think, you know, obviously David Crowley will be a more formidable candidate or opponent than Francesca Hong would have been.
00:18:01.000 By the way, I take no joy in the rise of the socialism here in this country, creating candidates that may be easier to beat.
00:18:08.000 This is a very dangerous sign.
00:18:10.000 But I think the concern in Wisconsin is that we continue to be outpolled or outvoted Democrats versus Republicans.
00:18:20.000 We've just been wiped out in these midterm or, you know, non-general election.
00:18:25.000 Spring election Supreme Court races by a couple hundred thousand votes.
00:18:29.000 That's the same pattern last night. 1.00
00:18:30.000 Now, we didn't have a real primary for the governorship, but Tiffany had that wrapped up. 1.00
00:18:34.000 But we had about 500,000 Republicans come out last night. 1.00
00:18:38.000 700,000 Democrats came out.
00:18:41.000 So that's worrisome.
00:18:42.000 And I think that's a concern across the nation.
00:18:46.000 President Trump's not on the ballot.
00:18:48.000 So his supporters aren't coming out and going to vote for him.
00:18:51.000 He needs to energize them to come out and vote for Republicans.
00:18:54.000 We may not be perfect, but the Democrats are orders of magnitude worse.
00:19:00.000 Than Republicans, and we need to defeat these people.
00:19:02.000 We cannot allow this rise of socialism to continue.
00:19:05.000 Yeah, I mean, I think that's a really interesting question.
00:19:08.000 It kind of puts us in a weird place as conservatives, where you, if you looked at social media last night, there was a lot of people that were almost pulling for Hong to win because that they thought might favor Tom Tiffany.
00:19:20.000 But you don't want a radical, Thanksgiving hating, you know, Senate abolishing DSA member to be nominated.
00:19:28.000 That's what's worse, right?
00:19:30.000 You know, Obviously, both candidates, Crowley and Hong, are going to be orders of magnitude worse than the conservative.
00:19:37.000 But it is kind of one of those things.
00:19:39.000 I mean, I think, you know, Harry Sabato's crystal ball went from toss up or lean conservative to now lean Democrat, just because the, I guess, the more establishment candidate won last night.
00:19:52.000 What do you think needs to happen between now and November to increase our chances that Tom Tiffany gets over the finish line?
00:19:59.000 You know this state better than anybody, Senator.
00:20:02.000 Well, again, I think there's one person who can re energize our base, and that's President Trump.
00:20:07.000 Republicans, we need to stop the circular firing squad.
00:20:10.000 I know it's occurring right now in Senate recess.
00:20:12.000 We've got a lot of candidates that got tough races.
00:20:14.000 They want to get back and start doing some campaigning.
00:20:17.000 There was nothing we were going to accomplish in August anyway.
00:20:21.000 Please, if you're a conservative Republican, don't hold it against Republicans for not passing the Save America Act.
00:20:28.000 We all wanted it.
00:20:29.000 There are a couple who had some issues with the full Save America Act, but we all voted for voter ID as we left town.
00:20:37.000 53 of us voted for that, or 52 Mitch McConnell didn't vote.
00:20:40.000 The reason we don't have voter integrity laws, the reason we couldn't pass the Save America Act or even say that is because Democrats are opposed to every election integrity measure put before them because they want to make it easy to cheat because that's the way they think they can turn this America into a one party nation, a socialist, a communist nation.
00:21:00.000 They're the opponent.
00:21:01.000 Again, I'm not saying Republicans are perfect.
00:21:03.000 I've got a lot of bones to pick with a lot of my colleagues, but we are so much better.
00:21:08.000 We actually believe in freedom.
00:21:09.000 We believe in a limited government.
00:21:11.000 We believe in In a free enterprise system, we reject socialism and communism.
00:21:17.000 That's the direction Democrats are taking us.
00:21:19.000 Yeah, I mean, Senator, I know you've got a lot of different things you've got to deal with with your Senate colleagues.
00:21:26.000 I wish we would have stayed in D.C., done the talking filibuster like Mike Lee wanted, or whatever, pass a reconciliation package with the Save America Act passed.
00:21:36.000 Whatever campaigning or fundraising the senators are doing in these tough elections, I just think it pales in comparison to actually getting.
00:21:42.000 Let me stop you.
00:21:45.000 Let me stop you.
00:21:46.000 None of those things would have passed.
00:21:48.000 Again, you have to understand the talking filibuster would not work because we don't have a two speech rule.
00:21:54.000 When I met with Mike Lee, with the parliamentarian, found out, oh no, the two speech rule is by the wayside.
00:22:00.000 Robert Byrd ended that when he said, change the Senate rules where you can offer unlimited amendments.
00:22:07.000 So an amendment doesn't count as speech.
00:22:09.000 So there was no way you could use a talking filibuster to get to the question, to call the question at a simple majority vote.
00:22:16.000 I recognize that reality.
00:22:17.000 Unfortunately, Unfortunately, that reality hasn't caught up with a lot of our supporters.
00:22:22.000 But there was no way to pass the Save America Act with the talking filibuster.
00:22:26.000 There's no way you could sit there and pressure Democrats to vote for it.
00:22:30.000 It wouldn't happen.
00:22:31.000 Again, that's why I supported the filibuster.
00:22:33.000 No, I agree.
00:22:34.000 But understand, my colleagues and probably half the conference do not want to end the filibuster.
00:22:39.000 I don't want to end the filibuster when Democrats are in charge.
00:22:42.000 So that's the danger in ending the filibuster.
00:22:45.000 I think they'll do it anyway.
00:22:46.000 A lot of my colleagues don't believe that.
00:22:48.000 But trust me, if we were to end the filibuster and Democrats get in charge, We would wish we'd have that filibuster back.
00:22:54.000 So again, that's a legitimate point of view.
00:22:57.000 But again, we would not have passed the Save America Act.
00:23:00.000 We wouldn't have passed a reconciliation bill in this thing.
00:23:02.000 So again, got to understand reality.
00:23:05.000 I totally support it.
00:23:07.000 And by the way, I talked to the president.
00:23:09.000 He agreed.
00:23:10.000 No, let's go.
00:23:11.000 Let's take our time and do a much better reconciliation package.
00:23:15.000 Put whatever election integrity measures we can do that, put into that, have more money for.
00:23:22.000 The members of our military who are in harm's way, but try and come up with pay for us, you know, so we're not totally exploding our deficit.
00:23:29.000 So, again, I wasn't that nuts about the House Pass package.
00:23:33.000 So, let's do a far better one.
00:23:34.000 And that's going to take some time.
00:23:36.000 Okay, fair enough.
00:23:37.000 So, I didn't expect to spend so much time on this.
00:23:40.000 I do actually want to get to the Fauci stuff.
00:23:42.000 But as far as a reconciliation package, if we can get it through there, if it could pass the bird bath, that sounds amazing.
00:23:48.000 What would be the timing for that?
00:23:51.000 Can you pass that?
00:23:52.000 I think you got like two weeks when you get back.
00:23:55.000 Well, first of all, any election integrity measures we could pass, they're not going to take impact or take effect for this election.
00:24:01.000 We're talking about for 2028.
00:24:03.000 Right.
00:24:03.000 So, at this point, there's no rush.
00:24:05.000 We would have had to do that back in January, February, March.
00:24:08.000 That time has passed.
00:24:10.000 In terms of getting something done before this election, it's going to be tough.
00:24:13.000 But I would much rather take our time, make sure that we have the committees instructed.
00:24:19.000 And this is getting to budget wonkishness, but we need the committees that actually have pay for in them so we can address the massive fraud in Medicaid and these other areas.
00:24:29.000 And the skinny package, we're not instructed those committees, so we wouldn't have had the adequate pay for.
00:24:34.000 So now we can take our time, we can make our case.
00:24:37.000 As budget chair, I'm going to be holding hearings on the reality of the fraud in Medicaid, the fraud in Medicare.
00:24:44.000 Quite honestly, the fraud in Social Security.
00:24:46.000 We need to stamp that out.
00:24:48.000 And I think the highest estimate that I've heard is a trillion dollars per year of fraud.
00:24:53.000 The lowest is like $250 billion.
00:24:55.000 That'll take some congressional action to make sure we eliminate that.
00:24:59.000 Senator, when you mentioned it's going to be tough to get it done before this election, I mean, if you're looking at the polling, if you're looking at the generic ballots, getting it done before this election feels pretty important.
00:25:12.000 I mean, isn't that kind of.
00:25:15.000 The deadline here, or do you again?
00:25:20.000 You're looking at legislation passed by the federal government to improve people's lives.
00:25:24.000 I don't have faith in the federal government that way.
00:25:26.000 I think we need to reduce the size, scope, and cost of government.
00:25:29.000 We're not talking about that in terms of reconciliation.
00:25:33.000 So, this is a long term project.
00:25:35.000 There's not much we can do in terms of affordability.
00:25:38.000 I mean, let's just be honest.
00:25:40.000 I'm a blunt person.
00:25:41.000 Okay.
00:25:42.000 The war in Iran has driven up the cost of energy, even though President Trump.
00:25:46.000 Had the right formula, drill baby drill.
00:25:48.000 We were bringing down the cost of gasoline until he had to take out the existential threat that Iran was.
00:25:53.000 That's the reality.
00:25:54.000 We need to explain that.
00:25:55.000 But the problem, the reason other things aren't affordable is because we've been in a chronic debt crisis now for decades, running these massive deficits.
00:26:03.000 It's devalued our currency.
00:26:05.000 Do you realize a dollar you held in 1998 is only worth 50 cents?
00:26:09.000 A dollar you held in 2019 is worth less than 80 cents.
00:26:13.000 That is permanent devaluation.
00:26:15.000 So, again, when I was in business, I always like to under promise and over deliver.
00:26:19.000 What drives me nuts about politicians over promising what they can't deliver.
00:26:23.000 So let's be honest about these things.
00:26:26.000 There's not much we can do before election day to improve affordability.
00:26:32.000 What we can do is get out and talk to our constituents and let them know socialism has never worked.
00:26:39.000 The solution here is reducing the size, scope, and cost of government.
00:26:43.000 It's influencing your lives, the debt and the deficit.
00:26:46.000 Rely on a free enterprise system that incentivizes people to build businesses and create good paying jobs.
00:26:53.000 Again, it's not necessarily an easy case to make when you have an education system cranking out a bunch of socialist, communist, radical leftists, when you have a legacy news media who's spouting that same crap as well.
00:27:05.000 So, again, it's not an easy task for republicans.
00:27:07.000 There's not some magic silver bullet that, oh, yeah, we're going to stay in Washington, D.C., pass more laws that are going to prove.
00:27:14.000 No, we pass way too many laws in Washington, D.C.
00:27:17.000 And again, Democrats will never agree to vote for election integrity laws. 0.98
00:27:22.000 They just won't do it without eliminating the filibuster.
00:27:25.000 We're not going to be able to do that.
00:27:27.000 Well, where we have very strong agreement, Senator Johnson, the great Senator Johnson, by the way, is when it comes to deficit spending.
00:27:36.000 If you want to talk about why inflation, why things are expensive, why people are feeling the pinch, a huge driver of that is deficit spending.
00:27:44.000 We're running $2 trillion deficits.
00:27:45.000 And I'm reminded now, Senator, of you coming on the show throughout the years and being, you know, one of the holdouts on the big, beautiful bill because you were upset there wasn't more, you know, spending cuts in it.
00:27:56.000 So you've been very, very consistent on that.
00:27:58.000 And I think you're completely right.
00:27:59.000 I bring it up.
00:28:00.000 Often, but Milton Friedman says the only place inflation comes from is Washington, D.C., because only Washington, D.C. has a printing press for money.
00:28:08.000 All right.
00:28:08.000 They're the ones that make the green dollars.
00:28:10.000 They print it trillions of dollars of deficits every year.
00:28:13.000 And that is actually a huge driver of this COVID, et cetera.
00:28:16.000 All right.
00:28:17.000 Senator, you are all over the news this week, and you've been doing great work.
00:28:22.000 You and Senator Rand Paul truly leading the charge.
00:28:26.000 There's text messages that everybody's talking about.
00:28:29.000 Now, Blake, why don't you set it up and we'll have.
00:28:31.000 Senator Johnson responds.
00:28:32.000 Exactly.
00:28:33.000 So, you guys, you've been releasing literally thousands upon thousands of Fauci text messages, and God bless you for doing that.
00:28:41.000 And we finally got a big one.
00:28:43.000 A lot of people have wondered did that miscarriage I had in 2021, 2022, after I had to get the shot, could that have been related?
00:28:52.000 And there was so much pressure from the media, from Fauci.
00:28:56.000 There's no risk.
00:28:57.000 We've seen nothing.
00:28:59.000 And now we see, we see at least in private, he was a lot more circumspect about.
00:29:04.000 What things were, what the reality was.
00:29:07.000 We have a message he said since many people have significant cytokine storms and fever after the second dose of the shot, this theoretically could be associated with miscarriage in the first trimester.
00:29:21.000 And then the people he was talking to, Walensky and Murthy, they agreed.
00:29:24.000 They said, good point.
00:29:27.000 What are we learning here, Senator?
00:29:29.000 First of all, just to correct, there have been a couple thousand pages of his diary released.
00:29:33.000 We just got his phone late last week.
00:29:36.000 We were able to download that into searchable forms, and my staff started looking at some key dates.
00:29:40.000 They pulled this needle out of the haystack, which I thought we better get into the public realm as soon as possible because it impacts public health, it impacts informed consent.
00:29:50.000 If I'm a woman who's about to get pregnant or pregnant, I'd want to know that Anthony Fauci apparently had knowledge.
00:29:58.000 I've never seen this, I've covered this or watched this very closely.
00:30:02.000 I never knew that they had information that you had higher cytokine storms after the second dose.
00:30:08.000 Brand new information to me.
00:30:10.000 And of course, with fever, that could impact, theoretically, miscarriages in the first trimester.
00:30:17.000 Now, this was, he's talking about this a little more than a month after the emergency use authorization.
00:30:22.000 VAERS is already being deluged with adverse events, which they're all ignoring.
00:30:28.000 So I appreciate the fact that now this is made news because it's associated with Fauci, but an even more egregious example of the federal health officials knowing the dangers of these shots and saying nothing about it was.
00:30:43.000 A month later, Peter Marks, the head of the FDA division that approves vaccines and is supposed to surveil for safety, was warned that his algorithm would hide safety signals.
00:30:53.000 26 days later, using a new algorithm, he was shown dozens of safety signals, including sudden cardiac death, pulmonary infarction, which by the way, Fauci suffered from himself in June of 2021, different types of strokes, and they buried it.
00:31:07.000 To this day, they're not acknowledging it.
00:31:10.000 So people like Fauci, Peter Marks, Tom Shimbakura, the very people who are supposed to be watching these things, And warning doctors, practitioners, the public if they were watching it, they sure weren't telling us.
00:31:22.000 And this is just the tip of the iceberg.
00:31:24.000 This is just one small little thread of evidence that Anthony Fauci knew more and he did not carry out his responsibility of warning the American public about what he knew, what he feared, what he was hypothesizing.
00:31:37.000 I think this is really infuriating on so many levels, but it's because it's about children too, right?
00:31:44.000 Pregnant women.
00:31:45.000 This is a tweet from Meghan McCain, 218. 1.00
00:31:48.000 She says, Put Fauci in jail.
00:31:50.000 I am a woman who was pregnant and had a miscarriage during COVID.
00:31:54.000 She goes on to say, This is not hyperbole.
00:31:56.000 Handcuff, perp walk, and put Fauci in jail.
00:31:59.000 For the rest of his life.
00:32:00.000 Now, whether or not you could do any of that stuff is not the question.
00:32:04.000 The anger that she is expressing, I can't imagine being forced to have to take the shot, to keep my job, to do what I had to do, to be in the military, for goodness sake, have a miscarriage, and now find out on the back end that they were aware that this was a real threat.
00:32:21.000 My question to you is in any public statements following this text thread that you've released, did Dr. Fauci admit to this?
00:32:29.000 Did he hint about it?
00:32:31.000 Did he acknowledge that this was things they were looking into?
00:32:33.000 Anything?
00:32:34.000 No, instead, he said there are no red flags.
00:32:38.000 He says we're not seeing safety signals.
00:32:40.000 No, they were being shown the red flags.
00:32:42.000 They were being shown the safety signals.
00:32:44.000 They were screaming at them.
00:32:46.000 Again, VAERS was overwhelmed.
00:32:47.000 The contractor that they hired to input reports to VAERS said their worst case scenario is 1,000 adverse events a day.
00:32:55.000 They were getting tens of thousands.
00:32:57.000 VAERS was overwhelmed.
00:32:58.000 They got about a million adverse events in the first year in 2021.
00:33:02.000 So, again, what is so infuriating about this?
00:33:06.000 I've had Dr. James Thorpe.
00:33:07.000 He's an OBGYN practicing for, I think, 40 years.
00:33:10.000 He was seeing this.
00:33:11.000 I've had him testify at my public events, at a hearing.
00:33:15.000 The mainstream media doesn't cover it.
00:33:17.000 So, that's what's so frustrating to me I've been putting this out now for years.
00:33:21.000 I've been warning the public for years.
00:33:24.000 I've been called a whack job.
00:33:26.000 I'm an anti vaxxer, supposedly.
00:33:28.000 I'm a villain.
00:33:29.000 I've been ridiculed.
00:33:32.000 Only once Fauci, once it came from his text, the mainstream media was forced to cover it.
00:33:38.000 By the way, the way they're covering it is they're covering up for him.
00:33:42.000 I'm listening to the Wall Street Journal article on this.
00:33:45.000 Well, this is exactly what Fauci should have done.
00:33:47.000 He's hypothesizing.
00:33:48.000 He's doing what any scientist would do.
00:33:51.000 No, what a public health official should have done is, yeah, hypothesize, take a look at these things, but then warn the public.
00:33:58.000 Don't keep it to yourself and don't lie, boldface the public that, We're just not seeing any red flags.
00:34:04.000 We see no safety signals.
00:34:05.000 They were shown dozens of safety signals within months of the emergency use authorization, well before the injection was finally approved, well before it was mandated to the members of our military, mandated to many other people, used to coerce people, including children, who, by the way, now we know the FDA is acknowledging children through autopsies died of the injection.
00:34:30.000 Where's that on the mainstream news media?
00:34:32.000 So, again, I hold the media as culpable as I hold Fauci and all these other federal officials that lied to the American public.
00:34:40.000 The news media, they had access to this.
00:34:42.000 They just wouldn't ask.
00:34:43.000 They covered for them all this time.
00:34:44.000 They're still covering for them.
00:34:45.000 Well, Senator Ron Johnson, I echo what Blake said.
00:34:48.000 God bless you for being the tip of the spear on this.
00:34:51.000 You and Rand Paul deserve our admiration and our appreciation for this.
00:34:55.000 And, you know, I just want to say you're talking about the rise of DSA.
00:35:00.000 How do we make our case?
00:35:01.000 Can you imagine if the DSA would have been in charge at any sort of level?
00:35:06.000 During COVID, how much worse it would have been.
00:35:08.000 It was already terrible.
00:35:09.000 The authoritarian impulse of so many people to seize control, close us down, force us and coerce us to take these shots against our will.
00:35:17.000 It would only be worse.
00:35:19.000 So, God bless you, sir.
00:35:20.000 Thank you for making the time.
00:35:21.000 We'll talk to you again soon.
00:35:22.000 God bless you.
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00:36:48.000 We have Congressman Tom Tiffany, who is now officially the Republican nominee for governor from the state of Wisconsin, joining us now.
00:36:57.000 Congressman, congratulations on your runaway win last night.
00:37:01.000 I think it's fair to say it was barely contested, but you got 96%, almost 96% of the vote last night.
00:37:09.000 So we'll start there and then we'll turn our attention to what you have next.
00:37:13.000 Here it is 467,000 votes for Congressman Tom Tiffany.
00:37:19.000 He's the Trump endorsed candidate in Wisconsin.
00:37:22.000 And obviously, Blake, all eyes were turned to the Democrat side of the ledger, where David Crowley.
00:37:28.000 Wins in unexpected fashion, eking out a victory over Francesca Hong.
00:37:33.000 So, you won in overwhelming fashion last night.
00:37:37.000 Tell us your takeaways from last night, and then we'll turn our attention to the Democrat side of the ledger.
00:37:42.000 So, just so grateful for the support of people across the state of Wisconsin to be our nominee.
00:37:47.000 We started nearly a year ago on this quest to bring affordability and accountability to state government.
00:37:54.000 And so, we're done with the first step here, and now we move to the real show.
00:38:00.000 And we're really looking forward to it as we bring this message of common sense to people across the state of Wisconsin and we turn Wisconsin red in November.
00:38:09.000 Amen.
00:38:10.000 You know, we just had Senator Ron Johnson and he said, never believe the polls.
00:38:15.000 Okay.
00:38:15.000 He said he would have packed it up a long time ago if he was just looking at the polling in Wisconsin.
00:38:21.000 It is a notoriously difficult state to poll.
00:38:23.000 That is true. 0.99
00:38:24.000 But man, we, I mean, Francesca Hong was way ahead on the Democrat side for that primary.
00:38:30.000 And lo and behold, David Crowley ekes out a.
00:38:33.000 I guess a 0.5% victory.
00:38:37.000 So the DSA candidate has been defeated.
00:38:40.000 David Crowley is now your opponent.
00:38:43.000 What do you make of what just happened on the Democrat side of the ledger?
00:38:47.000 Because, you know, Wisconsin, yeah, it's a toss up state, it's a purple state, but they almost elected a DSA candidate to represent them for governor.
00:38:58.000 That didn't happen, but man, it was close.
00:39:00.000 What are your takeaways?
00:39:01.000 Yeah, so the Democrat Party has capitulated to.
00:39:05.000 Big government socialism here across America, including here in Wisconsin.
00:39:10.000 And make no doubt about it, the Democrat establishment, they put their thumb on the scale in this election.
00:39:18.000 They did not want Francesca Hong, who was telling the truth about their policies.
00:39:22.000 And in fact, the man that won, David Crowley, he said two weeks ago that he's basically in alignment with all of her policies.
00:39:33.000 Make no doubt about it.
00:39:35.000 This is where Democrats are at this point.
00:39:38.000 Some of them still don't want to say it out loud.
00:39:40.000 Give Francesca Hong credit for that much.
00:39:43.000 She told people the truth.
00:39:45.000 People are going to find out that there's nothing moderate about David Crowley.
00:39:49.000 Yeah, well, and you mentioned they put their thumb on the scale.
00:39:52.000 I think a lot of us are wondering what the heck happened.
00:39:54.000 I mean, we have become accustomed to Milwaukee and Detroit, among other cities, pulling some shenanigans.
00:39:59.000 Last night there was something.
00:40:01.000 I want to ask you if you're worried about this when it comes to the general in November.
00:40:05.000 SOT 16.
00:40:07.000 I guess the exact thing, yes, is if five of the USB sticks were missing results from the election, so then they have to go try to re grab them.
00:40:22.000 Yeah, and they're all the folks behind the scenes are talking about this as well.
00:40:28.000 So, okay, so that was quite a lot.
00:40:31.000 They said it was due to human error and that there was nothing to see here.
00:40:36.000 Are you guys hearing any intel about what happened here?
00:40:39.000 Do you feel satisfied with the explanation?
00:40:41.000 I haven't gotten any intel, but you could see even Steve Carnacki was really frustrated by what was going on and going, What the heck is happening in Milwaukee?
00:40:51.000 We're focused on November and making sure that we turn out people.
00:40:55.000 Because we've seen it before.
00:40:58.000 You alluded to Senator Ron Johnson.
00:41:02.000 He's won twice in the last decade here, and he's done it by having clear contrast.
00:41:07.000 And we take our clues from people like him who know how to campaign in Wisconsin to deliver that clear contrast between crazy and common sense.
00:41:18.000 And make no doubt about it.
00:41:19.000 My opponent, I mean, he's a big spending liberal.
00:41:23.000 When they ran a budget deficit in Milwaukee County with him as their executive, how did he fix it?
00:41:29.000 He raised their taxes.
00:41:31.000 I mean, he even allowed 5,000 county public employees' health insurance to expire at the end of 2025.
00:41:39.000 He couldn't do a fundamental part of his job.
00:41:43.000 And he said that my policies are going to be very similar to Francesca Hong.
00:41:48.000 We are going to get big government socialism out of him.
00:41:52.000 Yeah.
00:41:53.000 I mean, I think you're totally right.
00:41:55.000 I'm starting to see that these are distinctions without a real difference, you know, whether it's the establishment DEM or the DSA.
00:42:02.000 Candidate, it seems like the entire party is beholden to the radical base of the party.
00:42:08.000 And I think we can't make that point enough.
00:42:10.000 And, you know, I think just calling them socialist is probably not the winning messaging, but to highlight concrete policy differences that you have with your opponent is the key.
00:42:21.000 You have to bring it home that this is going to raise taxes.
00:42:24.000 This is going to be big government.
00:42:25.000 This is going to be authoritarian tyranny in so many different ways in places of your life that you're not currently expecting.
00:42:31.000 Why don't you take the last two minutes here?
00:42:33.000 Congressman, and explain what your vision for the state of Wisconsin is.
00:42:38.000 You know, I especially think about your audience and so many young people out there that they're deciding where am I?
00:42:44.000 Where is my political philosophy at this point?
00:42:47.000 And that's why I call it big government socialism, because it will do great harm to America.
00:42:53.000 And I just say to young people, keep your faith in America.
00:42:57.000 America's gone through rocky times before.
00:43:00.000 And, you know, we have this inflation, high cost of living, those types of things that are going on right now.
00:43:05.000 You go back to the fundamentals, and that is don't turn more control of your life over to government because they're just going to raise your taxes, have more regulations and red tape, and you're not going to be able to afford a home.
00:43:18.000 Go back to the fundamentals, and that's what I'm doing.
00:43:21.000 Let's return money to the taxpayers.
00:43:23.000 We're going to end the 400 year property tax increase.
00:43:26.000 We're going to stop these massive increases in utility rates over $2 billion in the last eight years.
00:43:32.000 We're going to make Wisconsin more affordable, and that's how we become prosperous.
00:43:38.000 And that's how you're going to be able to buy a new home because that's something we are so focused on.
00:43:44.000 We want young people to have home ownership that's affordable once again, and that's reducing red tape, reducing taxes, and making sure that you have enough money at the end of the month that you can afford a mortgage and the American dream, which is a big part of it to own a home.
00:44:00.000 Yeah.
00:44:00.000 And that was really Charlie's vision, too, Congressman.
00:44:03.000 It was we want young people to be able to get married, to have kids, to own homes.
00:44:08.000 If you want radical, You just tell a bunch of young people, Gen Z, that they're just going to rent and they're going to be happy.
00:44:15.000 You will own nothing and you will be happy.
00:44:17.000 If that's what you want, then you'll have a whole generation that doesn't have skin in the game, and they'll vote for the socialists.
00:44:22.000 They'll vote for the DSA candidate happily.
00:44:25.000 But if they can own a piece of this, they don't want it to burn down.
00:44:28.000 Congressman, tomtiffany.com, please, please, please, if you're listening to this and the sound of my voice, get behind this campaign.
00:44:37.000 Go donate, chip in.
00:44:39.000 We got a lot of team, by the way, in Turning Point Action that is behind you up there in Wisconsin.
00:44:43.000 We have your back.
00:44:45.000 You are going to do a great job.
00:44:46.000 I have every faith in you.
00:44:48.000 And we think this is a state that we can hold.
00:44:51.000 We can hold this and you can turn it red in November, Congressman.
00:44:55.000 And, you know, final marching orders.
00:44:58.000 Yeah, turning point action endorsed.
00:45:00.000 There you go.
00:45:00.000 There's your beautiful face right there, Congressman.
00:45:02.000 Final 30 seconds.
00:45:03.000 What are the marching orders between now and November?
00:45:05.000 So we are winning this race.
00:45:08.000 We can see it in the polling, but it doesn't matter now, as Senator Johnson said.
00:45:12.000 What matters is on November 3rd.
00:45:14.000 All you young people out there, if you want more freedom, if you want more opportunity, if you want prosperity in the great state of Wisconsin, We're ready to deliver.
00:45:23.000 No more of this decline like Minnesota and Illinois.
00:45:26.000 Let's make Wisconsin one of the great states in America once again.
00:45:30.000 Amen.
00:45:30.000 Well said, sir.
00:45:31.000 Thank you.
00:45:31.000 God bless you.
00:45:32.000 Congratulations.
00:45:33.000 And take it home in November, sir.
00:45:35.000 We got your back.
00:45:36.000 Great to join you guys.
00:45:38.000 All right.
00:45:38.000 So I want to talk about this polling miss, which is legitimately historic.
00:45:45.000 Throw up 224.
00:45:47.000 This was the Wisconsin governor Democrat primary polling.
00:45:52.000 And you got.
00:45:54.000 Basically, hung up the most recent poll.
00:45:57.000 Blake has hung up 18.
00:46:00.000 Marquette hung up 22.
00:46:03.000 PPP hung up 20.
00:46:05.000 Impact Research hung up 13.
00:46:07.000 Marquette up by 11.
00:46:09.000 And yet she lost this race.
00:46:11.000 Now, two things are true at the same time.
00:46:14.000 I believe in my gut, again, this is where you get accused of conspiracy theories.
00:46:20.000 I believe there are shenanigans in the state of Wisconsin, whether it be Milwaukee or Dane County, which is where the university is.
00:46:27.000 Or, and rather, you also have she had terrible press for the last two weeks.
00:46:32.000 There's no doubt.
00:46:32.000 I mean, coming out against Thanksgiving is a wild thing.
00:46:37.000 You know, I think that doesn't, that's not really a popular position.
00:46:41.000 We often, we're obviously, thankfully, not marinating in the left at all times.
00:46:45.000 We have to remember they have their own universe of forums and discussion threads and everything.
00:46:51.000 And I see a little bit of it on X. Like, they were freaking out.
00:46:55.000 They're worrying, is this woman actually going to mess up the entire midterm for us?
00:47:00.000 Because, you know, Even if they're not big lovers of America and Thanksgiving, they are at least a little bit aware of political facts that this is not something that's going to play well with people.
00:47:12.000 And I just think it went viral within Democrat circles of what are we getting into?
00:47:17.000 Are we serious here?
00:47:19.000 Don't mess this up. 0.99
00:47:19.000 And I think a lot of rank and file Democrats, they're radicalized. 0.99
00:47:22.000 They hate Trump.
00:47:23.000 And that makes them actually kind of efficiency minded about this sort of thing.
00:47:28.000 They're not going to take a lark on an extremist when all that matters is winning to them.
00:47:34.000 Yeah, no, and I agree.
00:47:36.000 Here's the deal, though.
00:47:37.000 I mean, you've got Hassan Piker out there that is cozying up to El Sayed.
00:47:42.000 That was a squeaker, too.
00:47:43.000 I do believe the establishment wanted to beat El Sayed.
00:47:47.000 They failed in that, but they were successful with Hong because she was the worst candidate.
00:47:53.000 I mean, say what you will about El Sayed.
00:47:55.000 He is an extremist, but he is pretty suave, well spoken.
00:47:59.000 He is way more adept at being flexible and responding to the criticisms than Francesca Hong was.
00:48:04.000 Hong literally had mental illness issues. 0.95
00:48:07.000 She came out, like I said, against.
00:48:08.000 Thanksgiving. 0.99
00:48:09.000 She's come out in favor of abolishing the Senate.
00:48:13.000 So, I do think you're right that a lot of even Bernie Sanders, by the way, wouldn't get behind her.
00:48:17.000 Said, I don't really know that race very well, which was, you know, Comrade Sanders' version of I don't like her that much and I don't want to be tied to her.
00:48:26.000 So, the point is, you're right, but it is also interesting if you look at, so for example, Greg Price, friend of the show, he said, Francesca Hong, this is 225, says, Francesca Hong is somehow woefully underperforming in Madison, but massively overperforming in Milwaukee.
00:48:45.000 So that is an interesting, it's completely bizarre.
00:48:48.000 It's a totally fair view of what happened last night.
00:48:53.000 And there were a lot of people that were texting me saying the establishment is up to it again.
00:48:57.000 They're still in the driver's seat.
00:48:58.000 They still run these elections.
00:48:59.000 The unions are still in their pocket.
00:49:01.000 They are doing shenanigans here to make sure that Hong doesn't get across the finish line.
00:49:07.000 Now, the opponent, Crowley, nobody had even heard of this guy outside of Wisconsin, really.
00:49:12.000 I mean, you heard Tom Tiffany talking about him.
00:49:14.000 He's very well aware of his past failures.
00:49:18.000 Guy sounds like an incompetent buffoon who's going to run the state to the ground, can't, you know, run his car, let alone a whole state.
00:49:25.000 So that's fine, but they would prefer him over this total radical.
00:49:30.000 Now, let's also talk about Hassan Piker because there is a clip going around.
00:49:36.000 Hassan Piker got behind Francesca Hong.
00:49:38.000 There's a clip going viral again where Charlie debated with Hassan Piker back in like 2018, right?
00:49:49.000 What's the clip number, guys?
00:49:50.000 I've somehow lost it.
00:49:52.000 Give me that clip number.
00:49:53.000 But I remember this.
00:49:55.000 I was there when this happened, when Hassan Piker and Charlie talked about it.
00:50:00.000 And Charlie took him to task basically saying, hey, listen, guys, this guy wants.
00:50:08.000 No, it's not.
00:50:09.000 Anyways, we have a clip.
00:50:10.000 I'm not sure that we have the right clip because there are multiple viral clips from that moment.
00:50:15.000 But Charlie takes him to task saying, you want to instill a system which will rob from producers and rob from us who work really hard.
00:50:24.000 And.
00:50:25.000 You know, yeah, this is the clip.
00:50:26.000 I think it's great.
00:50:28.000 Anyways, if the team doesn't have it, that's fine.
00:50:32.000 But then now we find out, Blake, that Hassan Piker is living in a $2.5 million house in West Hollywood.
00:50:40.000 So this is a guy that thinks we deserve 9 11.
00:50:42.000 He wants to take down the American empire, wants to kill Rick Scott, wants to see capitalist blood in the streets.
00:50:47.000 He wants to impoverish the white working class and middle class.
00:50:50.000 He thinks that's a based, epic goal.
00:50:55.000 Is happening while this guy's living in a $2.5 million house in West Hollywood.
00:50:59.000 And he says that's fine as long as you don't accumulate wealth.
00:51:03.000 Well, what is accumulating wealth other than saving your money and buying assets like Hassan Piker is doing?
00:51:08.000 The guy's a complete hypocrite.
00:51:10.000 I guess his real critique is you don't build businesses where you actually produce a product and produce value for culture.
00:51:17.000 I mean, there's just nothing, I mean, nothing is surprising here.
00:51:20.000 This is the oldest story of leftism in the book.
00:51:23.000 And it goes along with the resentful lower elites.
00:51:26.000 They can dress this up.
00:51:28.000 In a lot of rhetoric about equality, about wanting to uplift the masses.
00:51:33.000 But what's really going on here is a lot of people who are angry that they aren't more prominent, angry that they aren't more famous, angry that they aren't more well compensated.
00:51:42.000 I should be in charge.
00:51:43.000 And once they can get the opportunity to be in charge, whether it's literally holding power or just building up a giant pile of wealth, they're going to seize it and they will find ways to justify it.
00:51:52.000 And we see what happens when they get power.
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00:52:57.000 Every business is built on something.
00:52:59.000 Jesus Christ isn't part of our brand, He is the reason we have one.
00:53:04.000 Everything we build starts there.
00:53:06.000 Frozen yogurt is simply what we serve, people are who we serve.
00:53:12.000 We believe business is a gift, a chance to love our neighbors, strengthen our communities, and live out our faith with conviction.
00:53:20.000 That means leading with integrity, serving with excellence, standing for what we believe, even when it's easier not to.
00:53:28.000 We're not looking for franchise owners.
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00:53:46.000 All right.
00:53:46.000 Without further ado, Chase and Sarah Gibson, they are the owners of Groove Berries Frozen Yogurt.
00:53:52.000 You can find them on IG, Facebook, TikTok.
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00:54:01.000 Chase and Sarah, welcome back to the show.
00:54:03.000 Thank you.
00:54:04.000 Hey, thank you so much.
00:54:05.000 We appreciate it.
00:54:06.000 What an honor again.
00:54:08.000 Yeah.
00:54:08.000 Oh, it's an honor to have you guys.
00:54:11.000 And Sarah, I actually ran into you briefly in Texas not too long ago at the Women's Leadership Summit.
00:54:17.000 So that was fantastic.
00:54:19.000 I was glad to get to meet you in person.
00:54:22.000 Exactly.
00:54:23.000 So, why don't we just go back in time a little bit?
00:54:27.000 When we first met you guys, you guys were going viral because you made this courageous decision to put Charlie's face and name on your cups, and you experienced some pushback on that as well, but you experienced a lot of love.
00:54:41.000 So, tell us that story as a starting point.
00:54:43.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:54:44.000 So, it has been such a great ride with this.
00:54:48.000 But yeah, back in September, we put memoriam stickers.
00:54:52.000 For Charlie Kirk on our cups, not thinking much of it other than just honoring his legacy.
00:54:58.000 And people really, really liked the fact that we took a stand like that.
00:55:03.000 Obviously, we've been met with a lot of hate, but a lot of people really, really liked the stand that we took.
00:55:10.000 And we just continued with it.
00:55:12.000 We didn't back down.
00:55:14.000 We don't plan to back down.
00:55:16.000 And God has honestly been so fruitful to us with this decision.
00:55:21.000 Right.
00:55:22.000 And the decision was purely.
00:55:24.000 Based just like Charlie's core main values of putting Jesus Christ first.
00:55:27.000 And we 100% have sent it that way.
00:55:31.000 Full send on Jesus and just trying to spread his name and word.
00:55:35.000 Yeah.
00:55:35.000 And so, and I love that so much.
00:55:38.000 You guys did that.
00:55:39.000 And it's worth saying you didn't do it for some business purpose.
00:55:42.000 You did it just because you were moved by what happened to Charlie.
00:55:46.000 You wanted to be proudly behind him and what he stood for, which is the Lord, which is Jesus Christ, the gospel, and putting that forward.
00:55:55.000 Now, take us.
00:55:57.000 Up to speed.
00:55:58.000 What has happened in the month since?
00:56:00.000 I and I say this with my heart is totally for you guys because Blake and I we've experienced the hate, we've experienced the death threats.
00:56:08.000 You guys have experienced some of that too, but you've stood strong.
00:56:12.000 So, in the month since, what has happened to your business?
00:56:15.000 What has happened personally?
00:56:16.000 Yeah, so in the month since, we've just been given so many opportunities, all for the glory of God, honestly.
00:56:24.000 But about two months after we put the stickers on the cups and you know, we hit news headlines and all of that, we were approached by.
00:56:34.000 A franchising developer.
00:56:36.000 And so we are now in the opportunity has arisen for us to be able to franchise nationwide.
00:56:45.000 And that's our big announcement that we're just so excited to share with everybody.
00:56:48.000 Super excited to share.
00:56:50.000 Yeah, you guys can learn more at our website, more about our mission, our cause, who we are, what Grewberries is about, how to move forward with potentially franchising with us.
00:57:03.000 Yeah, go to our website.
00:57:05.000 So that means.
00:57:07.000 Am I going to finally be able to go to a Groove Bear's here in Tempe?
00:57:10.000 No, no, no.
00:57:12.000 I hope so.
00:57:14.000 The Lord's will, that's what it is, then so be it.
00:57:17.000 I'd be happy to be able to spread the joy of Him with anybody around the nation.
00:57:20.000 Yes, it would be awesome.
00:57:22.000 You know, it was just amazing to me.
00:57:26.000 The team showed me the promo clip with me saying, I pray that this becomes the biggest Froyo franchise in the country.
00:57:35.000 I literally just said that, like, kind of, it just came to me in the moment.
00:57:40.000 You and I, we had not talked, Chase.
00:57:42.000 We had not had any, like, there was no backroom, sort of like anything.
00:57:46.000 I just felt in my heart that you were the type of people that had that kind of energy and that, obviously, led by the Spirit of God, and that you are the type of Americans I want to see succeed and build businesses and employ people and treat them well.
00:58:02.000 And so to see you guys actually embark out on this vision is so tremendously satisfying for me on so many levels.
00:58:09.000 So I just wanted to say, I didn't.
00:58:11.000 I didn't conspire.
00:58:11.000 There was nothing going on.
00:58:13.000 No conspiracy.
00:58:13.000 You guys have done this on your own.
00:58:16.000 Yeah.
00:58:17.000 Yeah.
00:58:17.000 And we were like, we've got to use that clip.
00:58:20.000 That was perfect.
00:58:22.000 I was like, full circle, man.
00:58:23.000 Full circle.
00:58:24.000 I was like, we have to get him back on this.
00:58:26.000 Hopefully, they let us back on the show to do this.
00:58:28.000 Oh, man.
00:58:29.000 Hopefully.
00:58:29.000 And I really want to drive home.
00:58:30.000 I'm checking your guys' website now, and everyone should check this out.
00:58:33.000 Go to grooveberries.com because you can see, even now, even months later, it's still right at the top.
00:58:39.000 Honoring the legacy of Charlie Kirk.
00:58:40.000 Pay it forward by donating a Froyo.
00:58:42.000 You have the images.
00:58:44.000 And I also love this is just another part that appeals to me.
00:58:46.000 I love how all of your photos are just you two.
00:58:49.000 You're posing there with your yogurt cup, you're standing in front of the shop.
00:58:53.000 I just, I love how hands on all of it is.
00:58:57.000 I'm absolutely overjoyed to see the success you guys have had because you very much deserve it.
00:59:02.000 And it's really inspiring to me.
00:59:05.000 Thank you so much.
00:59:06.000 Yeah, we really appreciate it.
00:59:07.000 You guys have been so supportive.
00:59:09.000 I mean, we're even, you know, chatting with you guys about partnering, and we just are so excited for all of the.
00:59:16.000 Opportunities that God has put before us for putting Jesus first.
00:59:20.000 So, partnering when she's saying that is with Turning Point, it tells.
00:59:24.000 And it's just been such a blessing to have some collaboration in the future as we expand.
00:59:31.000 We don't know what the works are, but they're in God's making his design.
00:59:35.000 And, sort of what we do as a, instead of just being frozen yogurt, we feel like we're a public place to have worship.
00:59:46.000 And we do worship nights once a month.
00:59:48.000 We're trying to pick up some more.
00:59:50.000 You could be from church bands, you could be solos, you could be duos, whatever.
00:59:55.000 It's just trying to get people able to worship outside of the church space.
01:00:01.000 And that's one of our main drivers when we do have franchisees is to be able to worship out in public space.
01:00:08.000 We also have Bible verses on our cups that are, you know, just pull them and you just get random verses.
01:00:14.000 It's just cool.
01:00:15.000 Yeah.
01:00:16.000 Oh, I love that.
01:00:17.000 Yeah.
01:00:18.000 So, you know, it kind of reminds me of the Chick fil A model where they take Sunday off.
01:00:22.000 But, like, is that something that you want all of your franchisees to do is to sort of like also do these worships outside of the four walls of the church?
01:00:30.000 Nights, things like that.
01:00:31.000 Is that going to be part of the model moving forward?
01:00:34.000 Exactly.
01:00:35.000 Yeah.
01:00:35.000 And we're kind of modeling faith, fellowship, and Froyo is kind of the slogan.
01:00:41.000 Yeah.
01:00:41.000 So, yeah.
01:00:43.000 Yeah.
01:00:45.000 I love that.
01:00:46.000 So, yeah, we've got this picture honoring the legacy of Charlie Kirk.
01:00:49.000 We might have just thrown that up, but I think it's amazing when you're in Blake and I's position and we work behind the scenes with Charlie.
01:01:02.000 I worked with Charlie for about eight years.
01:01:05.000 And I saw him, you know.
01:01:06.000 I remember one of the first instances when I was working for him, somebody gave him a fist bump at the airport, and I was like, Whoa, somebody knew who he was!
01:01:14.000 Like, and I'm working with Charlie, and I thought that was so cool.
01:01:16.000 And you see the way his life, you know, grew, and his impact grew, and his influence grew, and his confidence, his messaging, and his faith in the Lord.
01:01:26.000 And to see his impact now at such a national but global level, and to see even little examples like this where Charlie's face is on.
01:01:36.000 On cups of Froyo, and now you're taking that nationally, and to see the way God's blessing you.
01:01:42.000 Exactly.
01:01:42.000 You know, it reminds me of the Bible verse that you will know them by their fruit.
01:01:46.000 And the fruit of Charlie's life is so tremendous, and you guys are a living embodiment of that.
01:01:52.000 So, this is news to me that we're working with partnering with you in some way on the turning point side, but I think it's great, and I want to know how I can help and be a part of it.
01:02:01.000 But final minute to you guys What do you want people to know about Groove Berries?
01:02:07.000 What do you want them to know about what you're doing, and how do they get involved?
01:02:10.000 Yeah.
01:02:11.000 Yeah.
01:02:12.000 So honestly, the biggest thing we want people to know is we're not franchising just because we're some random Froyo shop.
01:02:18.000 We're a full profit.
01:02:19.000 Yeah.
01:02:19.000 No, it is 100% for the mission of spreading the word of Jesus Christ.
01:02:25.000 And that's honestly to us what Charlie's core legacy was all based around.
01:02:31.000 And so, like you said, Andrew, it all started with us placing those stickers that Charlie on the cuffs.
01:02:38.000 And he was just an everyday guy who put Jesus first.
01:02:41.000 And that's exactly who Chase and I are.
01:02:44.000 And that's how we want to be viewed through this.
01:02:47.000 And we're so excited to have the opportunity, if God puts it in front of us, to just open up as many of these as we can, all for the glory of God.
01:02:56.000 Yep.
01:02:57.000 Yep.
01:02:58.000 All my glory.
01:02:59.000 Amen.
01:02:59.000 And what's your guys' website?
01:03:01.000 We are grooveberries.com.
01:03:04.000 And then our socials are grooveberriescda.
01:03:07.000 Yep.
01:03:07.000 Yeah.
01:03:07.000 All right.
01:03:08.000 Grooveberriescda, grooveberries.com.
01:03:10.000 Check it out.
01:03:10.000 If you want to start a franchise and you love the Lord and you want to spread the gospel, Please check out grooveberries.com and become a part of their extended family and our extended family.
01:03:20.000 So, God bless you both.
01:03:22.000 So good to see you guys.
01:03:24.000 May God bless this next chapter.
01:03:26.000 Awesome.
01:03:26.000 Thank you so much.
01:03:27.000 I love it.
01:03:27.000 God bless you guys.
01:03:28.000 Thank you, Blake, again for your time and you, Andrew, as well.
01:03:30.000 Thank you so much.
01:03:32.000 Of course.
01:03:32.000 Of course, guys.
01:03:35.000 Blake, I just love that story.
01:03:37.000 I love them so much.
01:03:38.000 Even on the franchise page, you're just saying we unapologetically centered on Christ.
01:03:42.000 We support Charlie Kirk's legacy.
01:03:44.000 You really, guys, should check out this website.
01:03:47.000 The last thought I have, it's really funny.
01:03:49.000 Do you think Charlie ever actually would allow himself to eat frozen yogurt?
01:03:53.000 On July 4th, mint chocolate chips, frozen yogurt.
01:03:58.000 Have it there.
01:03:59.000 That's a free segment.
01:04:00.000 That's a great idea.
01:04:01.000 All right.
01:04:04.000 So, Blake, final segment of the day.
01:04:06.000 And I'm going to steal a little bit of your thunder because I know you want to talk about this on Friday.
01:04:10.000 But the team was going through.
01:04:11.000 So, the team does this all the time.
01:04:13.000 We're going through these clips of Charlie, these events, because he was constantly giving speeches.
01:04:18.000 He was constantly doing some of the stuff I haven't even seen.
01:04:21.000 I'll just be honest.
01:04:22.000 I think the team has a pretty good catalog because as we were going, we were keeping track of that.
01:04:26.000 But they're going through and reviewing some of these things.
01:04:29.000 And this was in 2025.
01:04:31.000 He was given a speech.
01:04:33.000 And Blake, you and Danny yesterday were really taken by Charlie's.
01:04:39.000 He was confronting a group.
01:04:40.000 I think that it was like a roofing group or something.
01:04:43.000 I know.
01:04:43.000 I could set this all up, Andrew.
01:04:45.000 This was just a few weeks before his death, which is why we didn't give it as much attention as we might have otherwise.
01:04:51.000 Because he was talking about it.
01:04:52.000 He came back.
01:04:53.000 He went to this event.
01:04:54.000 It was a roofers' convention.
01:04:55.000 So.
01:04:56.000 Small businesses that employ a lot of migrant labor.
01:04:59.000 And he was just, he was blown away because he said, All of these guys, they would stand up and they would say, We love you on 99% of issues, except Charlie, is there a way we could maybe get amnesty for our workers?
01:05:12.000 Could we maybe send them home and then bring them right back?
01:05:15.000 And we're all, we need these migrant workers.
01:05:18.000 We need mass immigration to make our businesses work.
01:05:22.000 And we were reminded of it because we were talking the other day, Andrew, that article, Will Americans Accept a More Expensive Burrito to Have a Country?
01:05:30.000 To have a border.
01:05:32.000 And Charlie's takeaway at that event, and it was very frustrating to him, was an awful lot of people won't.
01:05:39.000 They will not bite the bullet of paying slightly more to get a worker.
01:05:43.000 Literally, some of them were saying, I don't think we can get a white guy to work on a roof.
01:05:47.000 But we have a lot of clips here.
01:05:49.000 Let's get into them.
01:05:50.000 Yeah, let's go ahead and start with SAT 2.
01:05:53.000 We allowed 12 million people in a span of four years to flood into the country, right?
01:05:59.000 From 100 different countries.
01:06:01.000 If we do not go to dramatic measures to fix it, then we're not a nation.
01:06:05.000 We're something completely else.
01:06:08.000 That's Charlie talking, but what's really mind blowing is the way the questions that they're bringing up.
01:06:13.000 So I want to flag I just mentioned this guy.
01:06:16.000 Let's do clip eight.
01:06:17.000 I'm white.
01:06:18.000 I don't want white people doing the roofs because I got people complaining it's hot outside.
01:06:24.000 That was a real question someone asked.
01:06:26.000 It was part of a long one.
01:06:27.000 Don't want white guys doing the roofs.
01:06:29.000 It's hot outside.
01:06:30.000 They're just openly saying.
01:06:33.000 That basically they're committing crimes.
01:06:35.000 Let's do clip nine.
01:06:37.000 So, why don't you educate me on what mass deportations would do to your industry?
01:06:44.000 There'd be no one to work on the, to build back.
01:06:47.000 We've already seen it in Florida.
01:06:49.000 So, then allow me to provocatively then have me tell you how I hear it.
01:06:54.000 Are you telling me everyone in this room is hiring illegal labor?
01:06:58.000 Not everyone, but I know I have in the past.
01:07:03.000 Okay, so everyone is saying yes.
01:07:05.000 So, and again, you guys can boo me off stage, and I want to respectfully have it.
01:07:09.000 And if I'm wrong, come to the mic.
01:07:11.000 So, is everyone here in this room committing a felony?
01:07:15.000 Yes.
01:07:16.000 Okay.
01:07:16.000 Good to know.
01:07:19.000 Oh, I can't wait to put it.
01:07:21.000 I want to publish the whole thing.
01:07:23.000 This is like Charlie is confronting the Scott Greer question Are we willing to sacrifice a little bit of our comforts?
01:07:31.000 Are we willing to sacrifice a little bit higher prices to get our country back?
01:07:36.000 And that is a real serious question.
01:07:37.000 And you can see that being confronted in the room.
01:07:40.000 Danny's telling me we got to play cut 12.
01:07:42.000 So I want to do that because Danny has great instincts.
01:07:44.000 Sot 12.
01:07:45.000 Call me old school and call me radical.
01:07:47.000 We haven't even had a couple months of enforcement, and everyone's losing their mind.
01:07:50.000 And I think that's kind of telling.
01:07:52.000 And again, I'm just saying that it's a revealing moment that we have a whole shadow economy that operates.
01:07:59.000 What I would love for you guys is to have a workforce.
01:08:01.000 Thank you.
01:08:02.000 Have a workforce that you guys don't have to worry about.
01:08:06.000 All right.
01:08:06.000 I'm just, I'm stunned because you and Danny were freaking out about these quotes yesterday.
01:08:11.000 No, no, no.
01:08:12.000 I'm stunned.
01:08:12.000 I'm stunned that, like, Charlie literally says, if you have to boo me off stage, I get it.
01:08:17.000 This is a couple weeks before he was killed.
01:08:20.000 And he was confronting the very issues that we're talking about right now.
01:08:24.000 Now.
01:08:24.000 Yeah, and it shows how valuable his leadership was.
01:08:29.000 He's such a charismatic guy, such a capable guy, that he could go into that lion's den.
01:08:34.000 We've had infinity Republicans who would go up on that stage, and these businesses would all line up and say, We need the migrant labor.
01:08:43.000 We need the lower wage costs.
01:08:44.000 This isn't going to work.
01:08:45.000 And they'll get weak in the knees and they'll start going, Well, we really do want to help our businesses.
01:08:50.000 We want to find a way to work this out.
01:08:52.000 One thing leads to another, and you have a Utah senator proposing.
01:08:55.000 You know, a new visa category to bring in migrant laborers to Utah.
01:08:58.000 The Dignidad Act.
01:08:59.000 Exactly.
01:09:00.000 And the Dignidad Act.
01:09:01.000 That's how you get.
01:09:02.000 Instead, Charlie says, he says, I hear you guys, but here's the real truth.
01:09:06.000 We voted for deportations, and there's other parts that we don't have time to hit now.
01:09:11.000 He's pointing out the loss we had in this country that no one wants to work a summer job anymore.
01:09:15.000 No one's working with their hands as a young person.
01:09:18.000 And that even if they don't end up being a full time manual laborer, that gives them the understanding, the real brass tacks of business that they can use.
01:09:26.000 To be an entrepreneur in other ways.
01:09:29.000 Charlie had the ability to stand up there and say, You guys are committing crimes.
01:09:33.000 You should stop relying on committing crimes.
01:09:37.000 He was such a capable voice.
01:09:38.000 It's amazing.
01:09:39.000 We need people to be stepping up and saying, You guys need to make sacrifices for this country.
01:09:45.000 Your point is so well made.
01:09:46.000 The difference between Charlie Kirk and so many other conservatives is he stood on that stage and said, You can boo me all you want.
01:09:53.000 You guys are committing felonies and you're not willing to sacrifice.
01:09:56.000 To get our sovereignty back, where every other conservative that I've seen, not every, but almost all of them, gets weak in the knees, they bend, they cow, and they say, let's import more third worlders.
01:10:08.000 Just amazing.
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