The Charlie Kirk Show - The Biden Docs: Who Benefits? With Kari Lake

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00:00:01.000 Carrie Lake joins us and I ask the question: who stands to benefit?

00:00:04.000 Cue bono, as we've said before in this show from the Joe Biden document debacle.

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00:01:20.000 There's a lot of opinions out there right now about this Biden document story, and we have learned that Joe Biden has been keeping private classified documents in his garage next to his Corvette.

00:01:37.000 We have learned that apparently the official regime narrative is that people just stumbled upon these documents and then turned them over to the National Archives.

00:01:48.000 That they said, oh, you know, sorry, we have all these classified documents here, not just at the University of Pennsylvania, but also at Joe Biden's private residence, a residence that Hunter Biden also declared as his residence on an official government application, I believe, to get a firearm.

00:02:05.000 We're supposed to believe this entire story, and I know many of you do not.

00:02:09.000 Many of you look at this and you say, there is more to the story.

00:02:14.000 Now, now there's several theories out there.

00:02:16.000 Let me tell you what those are.

00:02:19.000 One of the theories is that these documents were planted by the deep state, by the shadow government, by the administrative state, by the fourth branch of government, that these documents were planted as a way to take down Joe Biden.

00:02:32.000 Hank Johnson, a Democrat who is most famously known for being very concerned that Guam was going to capsize because of too many troops on one side of the island, actual thing in a real congressional committee, not a joke, not hyperbole, not a metaphor.

00:02:47.000 Hank Johnson came out and said that these documents very well might have been planted.

00:02:53.000 Play Cut 95.

00:02:56.000 My response to it all is that alleged classified documents showing up allegedly in the possession of Joseph Biden, but I'm suspicious of the timing of it.

00:03:10.000 I'm also aware of the fact that things can be planted on people.

00:03:16.000 Places and things can be planted and then discovered conveniently.

00:03:21.000 That may be what has occurred here.

00:03:23.000 I'm not ruling that out.

00:03:25.000 Now, look, the timing is suspicious because that's when they leaked it.

00:03:28.000 Now, I can't resist myself.

00:03:30.000 I do want to play Cut 103 just so you know who you're dealing with.

00:03:33.000 And many people out in our audience don't never heard of this, or they might not remember it, or some of you are going to remember it.

00:03:39.000 This is Congressman Hank Johnson, who at the time, I think this is like 10 years ago, was doing a congressional committee, was super worried that if too many troops go to the southern part of Guam, the island was going to capsize.

00:03:54.000 Real question to a general.

00:03:56.000 Play Cut 103.

00:03:57.000 This is an island that at its widest level is, what, 12 miles from shore to shore, and at its smallest level, smallest location, it's seven miles between one shore and the other.

00:04:26.000 Is that correct?

00:04:27.000 I don't have the exact dimensions, but to your point, sir, I think Guam is a small island.

00:04:33.000 Very small island, about 24 miles, if I recall, long.

00:04:40.000 I don't know how many square miles that is.

00:04:43.000 Do you happen to know?

00:04:45.000 I don't have that figure with me, sir.

00:04:48.000 I can certainly supply it to you if you'd like.

00:04:50.000 Yeah, my fear is that the whole island will become so overly populated that it will tip over and capsize.

00:05:06.000 We don't anticipate that.

00:05:11.000 That's a real thing.

00:05:12.000 That's who you're dealing with, that the island is going to tip over and capsize.

00:05:19.000 I just, that's a real congressional committee hearing.

00:05:22.000 This is the guy who is saying that Biden's documents might have been planted.

00:05:31.000 And I just love the general's response.

00:05:33.000 No, we don't anticipate that.

00:05:37.000 Now, to defend Hank Johnson, not on the Guam capsizing thing, because that is just indefensible.

00:05:43.000 You just can't make an argument against that.

00:05:45.000 But to defend Hank Johnson, it is not out of the realm of possibility that the deep state, the fourth branch of government, the shadow government, might be getting involved in trying to crossfire a president of the United States.

00:05:57.000 They did it to Donald Trump.

00:05:58.000 Why wouldn't they do it to Joe Biden?

00:05:59.000 However, I don't buy that personal narrative.

00:06:01.000 I don't.

00:06:02.000 So that's one theory, one of the theories probed by Hank Johnson and Democrats.

00:06:05.000 And by the way, it's very interesting to note.

00:06:06.000 This is the first time in recent memory that Democrats are all on different song sheets.

00:06:12.000 They're all saying something different.

00:06:13.000 They are not in unison.

00:06:14.000 They're not in harmony.

00:06:15.000 Operation Mockingbird is not working at full capacity right now.

00:06:20.000 You got Hank Johnson saying the documents were planted.

00:06:22.000 Chuck Schumer says that we need to let the special counsel play out.

00:06:26.000 Other people saying that Donald Trump did it worse.

00:06:28.000 Other Democrats saying that this is hurting their case against Donald Trump.

00:06:32.000 Their cyborg-like discipline is way off.

00:06:35.000 The Borg is malfunctioning.

00:06:37.000 They are overheating.

00:06:39.000 The central operating procedure of the Democrat messaging apparatus is not clicking.

00:06:45.000 It's not firing on all cylinders.

00:06:48.000 Now, there's some other theories that Joe Biden was just reckless with these documents.

00:06:52.000 I'm actually sympathetic to this argument. 0.97

00:06:54.000 Joe Biden is arrogant. 0.99

00:06:56.000 He's prideful. 1.00

00:06:57.000 He's cocky. 0.96

00:06:58.000 He's also not very bright.

00:06:59.000 I don't think he ever anticipated becoming president in the way that he became president.

00:07:03.000 As vice president, he never thought anyone would come after him.

00:07:06.000 He's largely untouchable.

00:07:08.000 And I don't think Joe Biden ever anticipated the idea of document retention to be something that the Department of Justice would care about, but they saw that as a potential attack vector against Donald Trump, opening up what would then be a potential double standard of Joe Biden versus Donald Trump.

00:07:25.000 So it's probably more likely that Joe Biden was reckless or sloppy with these documents.

00:07:30.000 But what is important is why are we learning about this now?

00:07:34.000 Why is the leak happening in the last couple of weeks?

00:07:36.000 Why is it after there's a Republican Congress?

00:07:38.000 And the way to answer these questions is an old Latin phrase that is very helpful, which is qui bono.

00:07:50.000 To who benefits?

00:07:52.000 To who stands to gain?

00:07:54.000 That is the most important question that you must ask in a situation like this.

00:08:01.000 Who will benefit from such a double cross of Joe Biden?

00:08:06.000 Who stands to benefit?

00:08:07.000 Now, the easy answer that cable television and some conservative media will say is Vice President Harris.

00:08:15.000 All right, let's acknowledge that.

00:08:17.000 That's true.

00:08:18.000 But you really think that Vice President Harris is sophisticated enough, likable enough to work with the deep state of government to cross Joe Biden?

00:08:30.000 Probably not.

00:08:32.000 Who else stands to benefit?

00:08:33.000 Well, potentially Donald Trump stands to benefit.

00:08:36.000 So a theory out there, again, this is just a theory that really upset Republicans and conservatives in the Department of Justice, they leaked this.

00:08:47.000 Another theory is that the patriots in the Department of Justice and the FBI that have just been abused and lied to, they knew this was out there and they leaked this as a way to try to say, you're not going to go after Donald Trump while Joe Biden did the exact same thing.

00:09:08.000 I'm not sure I buy that.

00:09:09.000 I'll be honest.

00:09:10.000 I don't find that to be necessarily conceivable, but it's a possibility.

00:09:15.000 Another option is just that there is a fear.

00:09:18.000 There is a fear that Joe Biden might not be able to win an election again in 2024, win in phrase, that might not be able to be implemented as president again.

00:09:30.000 That Joe Biden has gone past his expiration date.

00:09:34.000 Joe Biden is the mayonnaise in your refrigerator.

00:09:36.000 You look at it like, whoa, that's spoiled.

00:09:40.000 We got to get rid of it.

00:09:42.000 And potentially, there is an effort by the true sovereign in our country, the administrative state, to remove the now spoiled Joe Biden.

00:09:54.000 All these are theories, but I want your thoughts as we explore this together.

00:09:58.000 But you must be able to answer the question to who benefits?

00:10:03.000 Who benefits?

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00:11:18.000 In just a second, we are going to go and cut live to the brave and courageous Ben Berquam, great American, who is on the border between Colombia and Venezuela, one of the most dangerous corridors on the planet, covering some of the violence there, covering some of the moving caravans.

00:11:42.000 He's also with Oscar Blue Ramirez, who is a Real America's Voice Mexico correspondent.

00:11:49.000 So I want to cut to them right now and welcome them.

00:11:53.000 Oscar and Ben, welcome to the program.

00:11:55.000 Thank you, brother.

00:11:55.000 It's great to be on with you, man.

00:11:57.000 Thanks so much, Charlie.

00:11:58.000 What are you guys seeing on the front lines there?

00:12:00.000 Walk us through it and tell us how this applies to American sovereignty and some of our domestic battles that we are going through right now.

00:12:09.000 Well, the reason we're starting here, Charlie, is you mentioned one of the most dangerous corridors on the planet between Venezuela and Colombia.

00:12:15.000 We actually started at the Venezuela border yesterday.

00:12:17.000 We're making our trek across Colombia, following the illegals as they're leaving Venezuela, going across this country, and then ultimately up through Panama, making that journey up to the United States. 0.65

00:12:27.000 And this is really the epicenter.

00:12:30.000 You know, you have Kamala Harris talking about the root causes. 0.97

00:12:33.000 Well, they ignore the fact that so many of the people that are coming to America are fleeing the violence.

00:12:38.000 What you see behind us was actually a Sicario hit that happened while we were live on the air with Steve Bannon on War Room.

00:12:45.000 We were three blocks down the road when this happened.

00:12:48.000 When we got down here, there was a man dead in the street, and there are multiple victims inside that vehicle now that they're bringing out.

00:12:55.000 We have forensics down here right now.

00:12:57.000 This is just a small part of what the people of Central South America experience on a daily basis, but that's also what the open borders leftists are inviting into America.

00:13:07.000 So the purpose of this journey is to show American people, what the mainstream media, what the left don't want you to see, the reality of what's down here, and then connect that to it's the push-pull.

00:13:18.000 It's the push of the violence and corruption from down here.

00:13:20.000 And it's the pull of the open borders left, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and really the NGOs, non-governmental organizations, and organizations like the UN that are inviting this invasion into our country and to show it for what it is and hopefully hold these people accountable and ultimately secure the border.

00:13:36.000 Blue?

00:13:37.000 Yes, we were at the most important bridge of migration between Venezuela and Colombia yesterday, Charlie.

00:13:42.000 We were at Simón Bolivar.

00:13:43.000 More than 600,000 migrants have walked through that bridge in the year 2022.

00:13:49.000 The most shocking thing that Ben and I experienced yesterday as we were documented the migration, it is the lack of resources that they have in Venezuela because of the communist and socialist system in terms of Colombia.

00:14:01.000 You see shopping carts coming on, coming in empty into Colombia, and then you see chopping carts coming in full with food as people are lacking of food or lacking of resources.

00:14:12.000 And the most shocking thing also is the health crisis that is living over there.

00:14:16.000 You see a lot of sick people coming in from Venezuela into Colombia. 1.00

00:14:19.000 Also, it is the other trickle effect that is affecting the Colombian citizens.

00:14:23.000 It is affecting their jobs.

00:14:24.000 It is affecting the class of the middle class citizens that is affecting their taking away their jobs, security issues.

00:14:31.000 And also another shocking thing is the minor prostitution that is exacerbating in every border that connects to Venezuela.

00:14:38.000 Charlie, Venezuela and Colombia are not geographically next to America, so we don't always get an idea of what's happening there.

00:14:46.000 Just build it out, though, how what happens south of the Tropic of Cancer, all the way in Colombia and Venezuela, has direct and immediate ramifications on our border in our neighborhoods.

00:14:59.000 I really want you guys to explain that to our audience.

00:15:01.000 This is where much of the illegal immigration that ends up on our southern border starts.

00:15:06.000 There's several points of entry, but Venezuela being a communist country, many of the Cubans start.

00:15:12.000 They fly into Venezuela, boat into Venezuela.

00:15:14.000 We have people from the Middle East, from Iran, coming into Venezuela, and then they all float through up through Panama and then Central America and Mexico and basically are transported by the cartels up to the United States border, paying off the cartels, enriching the cartels as they go.

00:15:29.000 Reason we're starting this journey here is to show you that full process.

00:15:33.000 The mainstream media doesn't want you to see and really connecting the dots and painting a much larger picture of the evil that we're up against.

00:15:39.000 Yes, one of the most violent gangs in Venezuela that the government of the United States already red flagged every border is a trenderagua and a lot of these people are coming in into the borders of the border that we were yesterday.

00:15:51.000 These are the violent people that the Biden administration is admitting without being inspected.

00:15:56.000 And that is the main reason why we're coming down here to expose all the evilness that is coming through every border as they are heading north into the United States of America.

00:16:05.000 God bless both of you guys.

00:16:06.000 Ben, we're going to have you back on the program as you continue this journey.

00:16:09.000 Stay safe.

00:16:10.000 You are in one of the most dangerous areas on the planet.

00:16:14.000 And that's no exaggeration.

00:16:15.000 Please stay safe, guys.

00:16:16.000 God bless you.

00:16:16.000 Thank you.

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00:17:54.000 Carrie, if I can editorialize for just a second, it is a tragedy of biblical proportions that Katie Hobbs right now is in the governor's mansion. 0.95

00:18:02.000 Just want to make sure I say that from the outset.

00:18:04.000 It's terrible what happened to you, the ambush, the sabotage, the betrayal by so many Republicans.

00:18:09.000 But give us a status of how you are doing and your lawsuit, and we'll go from there.

00:18:14.000 Betrayal is a great word. 1.00

00:18:16.000 I mean, it's a betrayal.

00:18:17.000 It's not just about me.

00:18:18.000 It's a betrayal of the people of Arizona.

00:18:21.000 They got out.

00:18:22.000 They did everything right.

00:18:23.000 They showed up.

00:18:23.000 They voted and only to have their sacred vote trampled with the sabotage of Election Day.

00:18:29.000 Pure and simple.

00:18:30.000 That's what it's about, and that's why we're fighting it.

00:18:32.000 And they figured me being new to politics, I roll it up and walk away and lick my wounds.

00:18:38.000 And that's not how I operate.

00:18:39.000 I'm standing up for the people and we're moving this case forward.

00:18:42.000 I want people to know the appellate court has accepted this case on its merit and we are moving forward.

00:18:49.000 I'm going to look down at my notes because the 17th, which is this coming Tuesday, is when the defense has to respond to our case.

00:18:57.000 And then we will have an additional several days to respond to their response.

00:19:02.000 And then this appellate group, this three-judge appellate court will take a look at all of the evidence.

00:19:09.000 And we have thousands of pages of sworn declarations and they will make their judgment.

00:19:14.000 Of course, we're hoping to push this even faster right to the Arizona Supreme Court.

00:19:18.000 We'll see if that works.

00:19:19.000 But if not, we'll work our way up to the Arizona Supreme Court.

00:19:22.000 We will not accept defeat because we won this race.

00:19:26.000 The people showed up in massive numbers and they are so afraid of we the people.

00:19:32.000 The political elite is so afraid of we the people that they stole this in broad daylight.

00:19:36.000 They sabotaged Election Day.

00:19:39.000 And if we lay down and let them do this to us now, we will never have a country.

00:19:43.000 So I'm looking forward to bringing this case to the appellate court.

00:19:47.000 It's interesting, Charlie, to see what's happening in Arizona because Arizona was one of the strongest, is one of the strongest grassroots Republican states in the country.

00:19:57.000 And for them to come in and steal this election in broad daylight, it was like a physical assault to us.

00:20:03.000 And now they're trying to go in at every level of the Republican Party in the legislative district meetings, and they're trying to take back control of the Republican Party.

00:20:13.000 By they, I mean the Uniparty Republicans, the hardcore establishment, rhino-type Republicans. 0.99

00:20:19.000 They are trying to claw this back from we the people.

00:20:22.000 And I hope to God, I know that these meetings have been really rough and tumble, some of these legislative meetings.

00:20:28.000 I hope that the grassroots, patriotic Republicans are not walking out of these meetings in disgust because that's exactly what the other side wants.

00:20:37.000 We need to stand our ground and say, we will not walk out of this meeting.

00:20:41.000 We will not let you take back this Republican Party.

00:20:44.000 It is the party of wealth.

00:20:45.000 Yeah, allow me to comment on that for a second here, Kerry, because I'm really passionate about this.

00:20:49.000 So there is this story in NBC News where it says Arizona's plot to eradicate extremists.

00:20:56.000 And essentially, they're talking about how the Arizona Republican Party is going to have this big effort to try to get a moderate instead of a grassroots person.

00:21:05.000 I'm going to be personally involved, Carrie, in speaking at LD meetings or speaking wherever I think I could be helpful.

00:21:11.000 I know you will as well, Carrie, especially at the, you know, if the convention wants me, whatever.

00:21:16.000 But my message would be very simple: it's the exact polar opposite.

00:21:19.000 It is the establishment.

00:21:21.000 It is the moderates that did not give you enough support.

00:21:24.000 And they say, oh, well, you know, we didn't like Carrie Lake.

00:21:26.000 Oh, but you did like Katie Hobbs. 0.94

00:21:28.000 You guys signed on to the letter.

00:21:30.000 The Republicans for Katie Hobbs effort was robust.

00:21:33.000 It was well-funded.

00:21:34.000 It was treacherous.

00:21:35.000 It was deceitful.

00:21:36.000 And you guys could suck up your own pride that a different type of candidate was on pace to become governor and they worked in harmony and collusion with Stephen Richer and Bill Gates.

00:21:47.000 And so this is a, I don't want to talk too much about this, Kerry, but you have thoughts on this because I'm going to be involved in this.

00:21:52.000 Turning point action will be involved in this.

00:21:54.000 I'm going to make sure the Arizona Republican Party remains a robust, citizen-focused conservative party.

00:22:00.000 Your thoughts, Kerry?

00:22:01.000 I am right there with you.

00:22:02.000 I'll do whatever I can.

00:22:03.000 And we need to make sure we are so strong.

00:22:05.000 We, the people, are so strong.

00:22:07.000 And they don't want us to be part of the, they want it to be the political elite and the Democrats and the Republicans working to pad and line their pockets.

00:22:16.000 And we, the people, just sit quietly on the sidelines and take whatever terrible policies they send our way.

00:22:22.000 Well, thanks to President Trump, we the people got active and we are taking back our party.

00:22:27.000 We're not going to sit back and let them steal this from us.

00:22:29.000 So we will work really hard.

00:22:31.000 They are not true Republicans.

00:22:33.000 True Republicans would never back Joe Biden.

00:22:37.000 And we saw some Arizona Republicans backing Joe Biden over President Trump.

00:22:41.000 I'm sorry, but if you're backing Joe Biden, you might as well just hand in your Republican card and register as a socialist or a Democrat.

00:22:49.000 Any so-called Republican who backed Katie Hobbs, hand in your Republican card.

00:22:54.000 You are now officially a Biden democrat.

00:22:56.000 Let me prove it to you.

00:22:57.000 So I know so many people in Arizona that were told, and they did suck it up for Martha McSally.

00:23:04.000 These are grassroots folks.

00:23:06.000 These are people that are like, okay, Martha is not my choice, but I don't like the Democrat.

00:23:11.000 And I'm going to suck it up and I'm going to give money.

00:23:13.000 I'm going to volunteer. 0.93

00:23:14.000 And then suck it up again for Martha McSally. 0.99

00:23:17.000 But when it came time for the establishment to suck it up because their person didn't get the nomination to get behind Carrie Lake, they were not able to do it.

00:23:28.000 So let me just make sure everyone understands this point.

00:23:30.000 Is that they used to say, fall in line.

00:23:33.000 Okay, time to fall in line.

00:23:34.000 We're passing.

00:23:35.000 And I did.

00:23:36.000 I used to.

00:23:36.000 I was like, okay, fine.

00:23:37.000 Yes, I got it.

00:23:38.000 We're going to do it.

00:23:38.000 You're right.

00:23:39.000 I want to defeat the Democrat.

00:23:40.000 But when you were the nominee, they refused to do the same thing that they demanded from us for all those previous election cycles.

00:23:48.000 That's right.

00:23:49.000 And now they're going around to these meetings and I resent this.

00:23:52.000 And they're saying, oh, we had bad candidates.

00:23:55.000 We had excellent candidates.

00:23:56.000 We had exceptional candidates.

00:23:58.000 And I'm going to pat myself on the back.

00:24:00.000 My candidacy was one of the biggest things in politics that Arizona's ever seen.

00:24:05.000 It was a candidacy, not of me, but of we, we the people.

00:24:10.000 And we had great policy, excellent policy to secure our border, to bring crime down, to actually reduce taxes for people so that they had more money in their pocket to combat Joe Biden's inflation.

00:24:23.000 Great policies when it comes to education.

00:24:25.000 So our kids are getting out of high school.

00:24:27.000 Imagine that.

00:24:28.000 Ready for the workforce, not having to then go on to college and get into debt.

00:24:32.000 They're ready for a career out of high school.

00:24:35.000 We have great policy dealing with our chronic street homelessness to lift these people up, get them back into the workforce and stop the scourge of homelessness.

00:24:44.000 And all of our policies, reshoring manufacturing back to Arizona, we actually had great policies.

00:24:50.000 That's why we have such a movement.

00:24:52.000 And this movement is not over.

00:24:54.000 This movement is still alive and well.

00:24:56.000 And so they're panicked.

00:24:58.000 And I'm talking about the establishment rhino side of the party because they never did have good policy.

00:25:03.000 The policy was about keeping their gravy train going rather than solving the problems that are plaguing our society and our communities.

00:25:13.000 And Donald Trump is all about common sense solutions.

00:25:16.000 And I really tried to model some of what I did off of his America First Agenda because I saw in him a president who, even though he was taking hits every day from the fake media and the mainstream media, was still able to get a lot done and help serve the American people.

00:25:33.000 When you're in politics, you are working for the people.

00:25:36.000 You're not the boss.

00:25:38.000 The people are the boss.

00:25:39.000 And we need to get back to that.

00:25:40.000 And right now we're watching this rhino class of our party try to go into all of these small legislative districts and claw back control. 0.99

00:25:49.000 And I want the grassroots to know, don't give them a damn inch. 0.96

00:25:53.000 We're not going to give them an inch. 0.95

00:25:55.000 I'm going to be involved.

00:25:55.000 You're going to be involved.

00:25:56.000 We're going to show up at those difficult, you know, LD meetings at 8:30 in the morning on Saturday.

00:26:03.000 And we're going to give the speeches.

00:26:05.000 We're going to look people in the eye.

00:26:06.000 I'm going to communicate to them the best I can.

00:26:08.000 I know you will.

00:26:08.000 Okay, so I want to get back to something here, Carrie, that really flummoxes me and confuses me.

00:26:14.000 So here you are in the midst of a lawsuit. 0.99

00:26:16.000 You have to prove malice, which is very hard in a short period of time, an almost impossible threshold because all Richer and Bill Gates and those buffoons have to say is, well, I'm just such an idiot. 0.99

00:26:26.000 I don't know how to run it. 0.99

00:26:27.000 And that was basically their defense. 0.98

00:26:29.000 My idiocy and my inability to run functioning systems is exactly why Katie Hobbs should become governor. 1.00

00:26:34.000 But then something interesting happened is in the midst of the automatic recount for Abe Hamaday, we realized all of a sudden a couple hundred vote discrepancy in a conservative county, Pinal County. 0.92

00:26:46.000 And it just makes you wonder if that all of a sudden was able to happen, what would the recounts look like in Coconino or in Democrat parts of Maricopa or in Pima County?

00:26:57.000 But percentage-wise, it was massive.

00:26:59.000 So now that you are still proceeding with lawsuits, are you able to use some of that as at least either precedent or as an argument to say we need a hand ballot by ballot robust signature verification recount for my election?

00:27:16.000 Yeah.

00:27:16.000 You know what?

00:27:17.000 I mean, anything that makes it into the mainstream and people are talking about, we can bring up in our case.

00:27:23.000 I mean, it's difficult to overhaul the whole case.

00:27:27.000 They won't allow that.

00:27:28.000 But we are trying to bring new things in and we have a lot of new evidence coming our way every day.

00:27:33.000 This is how these election cases work, Charlie.

00:27:36.000 So much of it is gathering evidence after the fact.

00:27:39.000 And we were able to pull a great case together in days after the election.

00:27:43.000 Unfortunately, in the lower court, the judge only took two of our counts, the two hardest ones to prove.

00:27:49.000 We think we're going to have an easier time in the appellate court, and it'll go to the Arizona Supreme Court and maybe even above that to the U.S. Supreme Court.

00:27:56.000 We will be mentioning this.

00:27:58.000 And of course, if we get to the part where we have oral arguments, we can bring these things up as well.

00:28:03.000 There's a boatload of evidence in our favor.

00:28:07.000 And we just need a judge to wake up and realize what's on the line here.

00:28:10.000 And if we do not restore honest elections now, our country will turn into a Venezuela.

00:28:16.000 We have Venezuela-style elections.

00:28:19.000 And this is how you destroy a country.

00:28:21.000 That and a wide open border combined and a push for globalism, which really is just a fancy word for communism.

00:28:27.000 That's right.

00:28:27.000 And it's all over.

00:28:31.000 So, Carrie, it's very frustrating the legal process.

00:28:35.000 So now you are in an appellate process.

00:28:38.000 Is that correct?

00:28:39.000 Yeah.

00:28:40.000 We're in the appellate court.

00:28:41.000 You know, it goes from the county, the municipal, basically.

00:28:45.000 We were in the superior court in Arizona.

00:28:47.000 Then it moves to the appellate and then the Supreme Court.

00:28:50.000 And we wanted to fast-track it right to the Supreme Court.

00:28:52.000 We filed our case in the appellate court.

00:28:54.000 The Supreme Court came in and said, well, since you already have a schedule in the appellate court, we'll let it run through there.

00:29:00.000 We would like to fast-track it to the Supreme Court, but we have to work through the legal system.

00:29:05.000 And I know that for many Arizonans, that is frustrating.

00:29:09.000 Trust me, I get it.

00:29:10.000 It's frustrating for me.

00:29:12.000 We won in the landslide, I believe, and we can prove that.

00:29:16.000 And unfortunately, now we have to win in the legal system, but we are not going to stop fighting.

00:29:20.000 If they thought that we would just let them steal this in broad daylight and walk away, as I say, they messed with the wrong woman. 1.00

00:29:28.000 And the people of Arizona are telling me you've got to stay in this fight because without you in the fight, how do we fight for election integrity and election reform?

00:29:37.000 So we're going to do it and we've got to go through the system.

00:29:39.000 I've got them that next Tuesday, the defense has to present their rebuttal, basically, and then we will have our rebuttal to their rebuttal on the 24th.

00:29:49.000 And then the three judges will take a look at it and make a ruling.

00:29:52.000 Unless we can get it fast-tracked again, we'll make an attempt to the Supreme Court, which we will try to do.

00:29:57.000 So, you know, we got to work through the courts, unfortunately.

00:30:00.000 We are living in a very corrupt world.

00:30:03.000 I'm a very dangerous candidate, not because my policies are dangerous.

00:30:07.000 My policies actually make sense.

00:30:09.000 For the first time, we're getting politicians with common sense policy that helps all Arizonans, Republican, Democrat, Independent alike, no matter what your skin color, whatever your background, these are common sense policies.

00:30:22.000 But I'm not controlled by the apparatus.

00:30:25.000 I'm not controlled by the political machine.

00:30:27.000 And that makes me dangerous to their corruption because they know I want to get in there and start looking around and finding where the corruption is and rooting it out.

00:30:36.000 And that's why they had to do everything in their power to stop us.

00:30:39.000 We ran a great campaign.

00:30:40.000 It was very positive.

00:30:41.000 And we have a very strong movement.

00:30:44.000 If they think they can steal an election and make this movement of we the people of mama bears and papa bears Who care about their kids of grandmas and grandpas and students just go away?

00:30:55.000 They've got another thing coming because we're going to work through the court system and we will be victorious.

00:31:00.000 We're not letting them steal elections anymore.

00:31:02.000 One of the issues also was the lack of national resources deployed to Arizona in your support.

00:31:07.000 I'm going out in a couple of weeks to speak on behalf of changing RNC leadership.

00:31:12.000 We've had Mike Lindell.

00:31:13.000 We have had Harmeet Dillon on this program.

00:31:16.000 And 98% of turning point attendees say they want to change in RNC leadership.

00:31:21.000 And the grassroots are demanding it.

00:31:22.000 They're clamoring for it.

00:31:24.000 Meanwhile, McConnell spends money up in Alaska.

00:31:26.000 Carrie, RNC race, this is a big moment, watershed moment to make sure that what happened to you will never happen again.

00:31:33.000 I am all for a change in leadership.

00:31:36.000 You know, thank you, Ronna, for your service.

00:31:38.000 You know, it's just time for some fresh ideas, some fresh energy, and somebody who will finally appreciate the grassroots, the we, the people.

00:31:48.000 And I know that Rana's been out on various shows attacking me, trying to say we ran a bad campaign.

00:31:53.000 She never came to one of our campaign events.

00:31:55.000 Our campaign events were the most beautiful campaign events because it was a mix of all Arizonans, all different age groups.

00:32:03.000 She wants to sit there and she wants to continue with the status quo of losing elections because they don't put money into grassroots. 0.89

00:32:11.000 They only pick the rhino-type candidates to pour money behind, the ones they can control. 1.00

00:32:16.000 And the Republican Party under President Trump has become the party for the people, the American people, America First.

00:32:24.000 And so we're ready for a change.

00:32:26.000 We thank her for her service and we're ready for a change with somebody who will respect the grassroots.

00:32:32.000 And I think we can get that in Harmit or Mike.

00:32:34.000 I am firmly behind getting a change and I'm going to do whatever I can because without that, if we don't have the RNC working with us, with the people, I don't know how we can really bring America First policies in and get some solutions to these problems that have been plaguing us for far too long.

00:32:51.000 We're on the verge of either becoming the greatest country and solving some of these problems or falling into communism.

00:32:59.000 We're at this really critical point.

00:33:02.000 And I like to see the bright side of that.

00:33:04.000 I see us becoming that beacon, that nation where everything is possible, where every American has a shot at the American dream.

00:33:13.000 And if we don't act now, if we give up now and we don't continue fighting, then we will end up a communist nation. 0.60

00:33:20.000 Cliff Kingsbury is no longer coach of the Arizona Cardinals because he was a failure.

00:33:24.000 If we fire our football coaches, we should fire the chairpeople of the RNC because guess what?

00:33:30.000 Our country is a lot more important than the Arizona Cardinals' football record.

00:33:35.000 Absolutely.

00:33:36.000 Carrie, God bless you. 1.00

00:33:37.000 Thank you for being generous with your time.

00:33:38.000 We're behind you, Carrie.

00:33:39.000 Thank you.

00:33:40.000 Thanks.

00:33:43.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:33:44.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:33:47.000 Thank you so much for listening and God bless.

00:33:52.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - January 13, 2023

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