00:00:00.000Hey everybody, today's Charlie Kirk Show.
00:00:01.000Senator JD Vance to talk about his fight against mask mandates.
00:00:06.000And then Owen Schroyer, very powerful interview about a young man who's going to go to months in prison for a speech crime, a speech crime.
00:00:13.000You have to listen to this and text it to your friends.
00:00:54.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:02:14.000Well, first, Charlie, we have to remember that he was probably indicted only because of the pressure that we've been applying, that you've been applying, that the entire conservative grassroots have been applying for a fair and impartial justice system.
00:02:25.000Remember, the plea deal went wrong that nearly basically excused Hunter Biden and protected Hunter Biden from a whole host of charges.
00:02:34.000I'm glad that we got that blown up, and I'm glad that we got this indictment.
00:02:39.000Do we live in a two-tiered system of justice or not?
00:02:42.000If we don't, then the president's son, especially the president's son, ought to face consequences when he does something that would land the rest of us in jail.
00:02:50.000If I bought a gun and lied about being a drug addict or being incarcerated for drug crimes when I went through the background check, there is no doubt in my mind that the Biden administration would come after me and throw the book at me.
00:03:04.000I know it's just because of political pressure, but that's important, and it's good that they've done the right thing here.
00:03:11.000So, Senator Vance, with the 930 looming deadline, I don't think Chuck Schumer is going to waver, but we have to do everything we possibly can to try and defund Jack Smith or at least try to hold Jack Smith more accountable.
00:03:24.000Do you have any thoughts on that strategically?
00:03:27.000How we, as a movement, or at least from a congressional standpoint, try to hold Jack Smith far more accountable and or cut his funding.
00:03:34.000Well, I think the first thing, Charlie, is we have to actually have a unified strategy for the case that we're going to make to the American people about why we need to limit Jack Smith's funding and actually defund the corrupt Department of Justice that he's just sort of one piece of.
00:03:48.000Of course, Merrick Garland's entire Department of Justice is using its power to prosecute political opponents from Donald Trump on down.
00:03:57.000The crazy thing, though, Charlie, is that you hear a lot of different reasons for why Republicans are taking the position that we are on some of these budgetary fights.
00:04:45.000Okay, so let's talk about your standing up for the U.S. steel industry.
00:04:49.000This is something that unfortunately has been forgotten in Washington, D.C. Tell us about some of your fights and some of your focus and emphasis to stand up for the American steel industry.
00:05:00.000Well, first of all, Charlie, this is about self-sufficiency for the American economy and good wages for American workers.
00:05:06.000We should have learned the lesson over the last 40 years that when we ship all of our jobs to communist China and other countries, it's working Americans who get screwed in the process.
00:05:16.000And these, I mean, Charlie, these are our voters.
00:05:18.000These are people who expect us to protect their industries, to protect their jobs, and they get the short end of the stick every single time.
00:05:25.000Joe Biden does what he's doing here, which is putting the green agenda, the radical climate agenda, above the interests of Ohio workers, above the interests of workers all across the country.
00:05:35.000It mean like a basic economic reality, Charlie, and this should, by the way, be a good thing for America, is that you can't manufacture steel without low-cost power.
00:05:45.000We have the lowest cost, highest quality power right here in the United States in the form of natural gas.
00:05:51.000Are we using that to empower the American steel industry or are we throttling the American steel industry, shipping all those jobs to the dirtiest economy in the world, which is communist China?
00:06:02.000Well, unfortunately, the Biden administration, shockingly, in the name of environmental justice, is encouraging us to ship our steel manufacturing to communist China.
00:06:17.000I don't even pretend to know where these guys are coming from, but they're doing it.
00:06:21.000And he's supposed to be this kind of pro-union, pro-muscular labor guy, Scranton Joe, and he's anything but that.
00:06:29.000I also want to spend some time here, Senator Vance, on your fight to ban mask mandates.
00:06:33.000You would think that that would be a bipartisan proposal, but there has now been a rather significant clash with you and Ed Markey, which I find to be a very interesting clash, kind of old versus young, Republican versus Democrat.
00:06:51.000So talk about this clash because this shouldn't be as disagreeable as it's become.
00:07:33.000And we know that the mask policies really affected the development of our young children, especially their speech delays.
00:07:40.000I just want us to say enough with the panic, enough with the craziness.
00:07:44.000We're going to go back to common sense and not force three-year-olds to wear masks.
00:07:49.000So we've tried to impose some mask mandate bans on different levels of the federal government.
00:07:54.000We're actually working on an amendment right now to an appropriations bill that would ban mask mandates for airline passengers.
00:08:00.000Remember how crazy it was when you had to wear a mask every time you got on an airplane.
00:08:05.000So we're going to keep on hitting this.
00:08:07.000But aside from any specific policy, any specific ban in any specific department, I just want us to act like grown adults, right?
00:08:16.000We cannot flip out every time we see a spike in respiratory viruses in fall.
00:08:21.000It's going to happen every fall for the rest of our lives, just like it's happened every autumn for the past hundreds and hundreds of years.
00:08:28.000Respiratory viruses go up when the weather starts getting cold.
00:08:31.000Let's accept that fact, try to deal with it, try to protect as many people as possible, but not pretend that we can control respiratory viruses.
00:08:47.000The horror and the panic associated with these mask mandates makes America significantly less free.
00:08:54.000Senator Vance, just in closing here, are you hearing any whispers, anything you could share about plans to re-engage in lockdowns or kind of the similar sort of ramping up that we saw previously with COVID hysteria?
00:09:08.000Are you starting to see, let's just say, more Senate staffers wear masks around hearings or some more of the octogenarians be very worried they don't have their ninth booster yet?
00:09:16.000Are you starting to see some of that, at least in the U.S. Senate?
00:09:19.000Anything you could share with our audience?
00:09:20.000Yeah, Charlie, I actually saw a staffer in a mask today, and I sort of looked at another colleague of mine and said, are we really doing this again?
00:09:28.000Are these people really going back to it?
00:09:30.000So I unfortunately have to say, yeah, Charlie, I think you are seeing some evidence of a return to this hysteria and to this panic.
00:09:37.000I think people got to stay vigilant about it because, you know, when I proposed this mask mandate ban just on airline passengers and on school children, the response I got was, nobody is trying to reimpose mask mandates.
00:09:53.000Well, then, of course, the Democrats actually tried to stop me, suggesting maybe they're a bigger fan of mask mandates than they might let on publicly.
00:10:01.000There are a lot of pieces of evidence that this is coming back.
00:10:04.000And I just think we have to be the party of reason here.
00:10:21.000More than anything, far more than masking them, God forbid, is they need to see us act like grown men and women who aren't terrified of somebody every time they sneeze.
00:12:42.000Donald Trump's going to be the nominee unless something absolutely wild happens, which, given he's been indicted four times, I don't know what else wild could happen.
00:12:49.000Number two, they thought that the law fair that they were launching in the spring and summer was going to weigh him down, was going to demoralize him, was going to turn him into an erratic, former version of himself.
00:13:07.000Number three, they underestimated how unpopular Joe Biden actually is and would become.
00:13:14.000And so Donald Trump is in a great position in the primary.
00:13:18.000He is in a very, very good spot in the general.
00:13:24.000And you are seeing more and more conservatives and Republicans compete all of a sudden early voting, turning point action, what we're doing in Arizona, Wisconsin, Georgia.
00:13:35.000So things are not going according to plan.
00:13:39.000They thought at this time, at this moment, September 14th, 2023, they were confident that Donald Trump would be in a five-point race with Ron DeSantis and the media would be slobbering over that.
00:13:51.000They were confident that Donald Trump would be completely demoralized, maybe thinking about dropping out because all the indictments, or at least they would try to make him into almost wounded animal syndrome.
00:14:01.000They thought that they could turn him into a corner where he just starts barking out and lashing out at everybody and loses popularity.
00:14:10.000So since things have not been according to plan, and we laid that out, I think, rather comprehensively yesterday, more so than any other program, one by one by one by one, because they plan everything, it should all of a sudden connect the dot of the news that came out today.
00:14:26.000Remember, we said that the Democrats don't care about candidate quality, but their machinery has limits.
00:16:01.000They are making a move to try and remove Joe Biden.
00:16:06.000We said last week we did not see the evidence it was happening.
00:16:09.000That has changed in the last couple of days.
00:16:11.000The indictment of Hunter Biden, the David Ignatius, somebody is calling plays to try and tell Joe Biden to get out of the way.
00:16:22.000So this is likely what is happening: Joe Biden and Jill Biden and Ron Clain and probably five or six other very, very Biden loyalists, loyal Bidenists, loyal Bidenists that's on right.
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00:18:18.000Okay, this is one of the most egregious cases happening in America right now.
00:19:03.000And yes, you pretty much summarized it right there.
00:19:06.000This is patient zero when it comes to speech crimes.
00:19:11.000And the government would argue that this isn't about speech.
00:19:13.000And actually, that is what they argued in front of the judge.
00:19:17.000But their sentencing memo and their final words to the judge during my sentencing would say otherwise.
00:19:25.000And we are currently trying to get the transcription of my sentencing day in court public because I think it's going to be a very important transcription, a very important document for the American public to read.
00:19:38.000You know, Charlie, they don't like having the media in the courtroom.
00:19:41.000They don't like having cameras or recorders in these courtrooms.
00:19:44.000In fact, there was a reporter who was just drawing.
00:19:48.000She was just drawing in the courtroom and she was told she had to rip it up and throw it away.
00:19:52.000That's how much control they want over the narrative.
00:19:55.000But let's be perfectly clear in case others out there aren't aware of what's going on.
00:19:59.000The US government filed a 30-page sentencing memo in my case.
00:20:05.000There are four sections in this sentencing memo, and each one of them specifically targets my speech.
00:20:14.000Now, some of the most incredible parts of this sentencing memo are they're criminalizing, and I quote the things that I said on January 6th.
00:21:00.000Well, gee, I guess, Charlie, they're going to have to change that motto then because the government would argue that that speech is worthy of incarceration.
00:21:08.000So that's the summary of the speech from January 6th.
00:21:16.000That's the summary of the speech that they're criminalizing that I made on January 6th.
00:21:21.000Now, furthermore, to conclude what they're saying I did or didn't do on January 6th, they had to admit in their memo that I said peacefully, we want to peacefully send a message to Mike Pence and Congress that we don't believe the election was legitimate.
00:21:41.000They quoted me saying that peacefully.
00:22:02.000And they have to admit that my security team was talking to Capitol Police saying, hey, we want to de-escalate the situation.
00:22:09.000So they have peaceful in quotes in this document and they have de-escalate in quotes in this document.
00:22:17.000So tell me how you can argue that I'm trying to ramp up a crowd and engage in some form of violent or illegal activity, which I didn't do, when I'm there with my team trying to de-escalate.
00:23:56.000I didn't engage in any illegal activity that day.
00:23:58.000And if you want to know how bad it actually gets, and this might not be any surprise to you or your audience, you cannot trust the U.S. government.
00:24:06.000I hate to say it, but you cannot trust the U.S. government.
00:24:09.000And our legal strategy was we're going to act in good faith.
00:24:16.000I'm not going to go into the arena, go into the ring, take the gloves off.
00:24:21.000I wasn't going to say anything bad about the judge.
00:24:23.000I wasn't going to say anything bad about the prosecution as this case was going on and we were negotiating for more than two years, by the way, that I spent on probation, passing drug tests, having house visits by probation officers, monthly meetings with probation officers.
00:26:08.000That's what the Department of Justice was requesting, 120 days in jail.
00:26:13.000Now, the judge, which is his pattern of behavior, which makes this whole thing a little more suspicious, quite frankly, gave me half of what they asked, which has been a consistent pattern from this judge.
00:26:24.000So again, it makes me wonder if this whole thing wasn't decided before I even entered the courtroom that day with a consistency pattern like that.
00:26:31.000And so I got 60 days plus another year of supervised probation.
00:26:36.000Now, it was our understanding heading into this after we saw their sentencing memo that, wait a second, that's not only unprecedented, but that might be illegal.
00:26:45.000You can't do incarceration and supervised probation.
00:26:49.000Sometimes a judge will give a defendant the option of incarceration or supervised probation.
00:27:30.000And, you know, I think for yourself and for a lot of other members in the media, when they saw this case and when they saw the egregious overreach by the U.S. government and the blatant attack on free speech, I think it sent shockwaves through the country.
00:27:47.000That was very thorough and articulately presented.
00:27:50.000Number one, here they are having you on supervised probation in Travis County, when Travis County has become like a homeless hellhole.
00:27:56.000It's just hilarious that they're worried about your movements and that outside of Austin, it's become like a dystopian nightmare, but that's anarcho-tyranny at play.
00:28:04.000They were trying to muzzle you, Owen, obviously.
00:28:06.000And the reason they put 1776, the reason they put this in is they were trying to dog whistle to a potentially sympathetic judge and or people around them to try to say, hey, we can't quite say it.
00:28:19.000We want to just make sure you know that this guy is not a good guy.
00:28:23.000And that's why they put your speech in there, 1776 death to tyrants, because for them, they try to find that as coded dog whistle language of right-wing America.
00:28:32.000Well, this is why the transcript from the conversations that day that went on between the judge and the prosecutors is going to be so important because it really is Twilight Zone level.
00:28:43.000And when I'm sitting in that courtroom with my attorney, I mean, it's almost like I heard the Twilight Zone theme song in the background as this all is going on.
00:28:52.000They continue to say, this is not about Schroeder's speech, but here's what he said.
00:28:56.000This is not a First Amendment case, but here was Schroyer's speech, not even on January 6th.
00:29:02.000And we're both like kind of sitting there just taken aback, like, whoa, wait a second.
00:29:06.000You keep saying this isn't about speech, but all you're talking about here is Schroyer's speech.
00:29:11.000All you're presenting to the judge here is Schroyer's speech.
00:29:14.000And I will tell you this, originally, Charlie, when I was in court with these people, it was either 2019 in December or 2020 in January.
00:29:38.000And then when they got to a third judge, they found out this other deal in a deferred prosecution that they could limit my speech in the Capitol.
00:29:45.000But regardless of what happens to me, I think Americans need to look at this and they need to reevaluate how important the First Amendment is.
00:29:52.000This is Owen Schroyer, a young man who is very articulate, speaks the truth, and they're going to put him in federal prison if they get their way for two months, 60 days for a speech crime, for saying things they don't like.
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00:31:19.000So, oh, and I put you and Douglas Mackey in a similar category where you have unrelated speech that is completely protected by our First Amendment that then gets brought up by the federal government to try to put you in prison.
00:31:42.000You were telling people to not engage in illegal activity, and yet they're trying to turn you into a show trial is basically what's going on here.
00:31:55.000Um, at this point, since this is all still really fresh, as Tuesday was the sentencing, there's still some more unknowns than knowns.
00:32:03.000Um, at least the good news for me at this point is it appears they are going to accept the appeal, and that in the meantime, I'm going to be able to remain out of jail.
00:32:14.000This is subject to change at any moment.
00:32:17.000I think we'll have a better idea of the cemented situation within a week or two.
00:32:22.000Um, but there were some other events here, Charlie, that the timing of couldn't have been any better.
00:32:28.000As I'm getting sentenced to months in jail and more on probation, I mean, I'll tell your audience this: I've been on probation for almost five years.
00:32:37.000I've been on probation for almost five years.
00:32:42.000Now, I've never committed a violent crime, I've never harmed anybody.
00:32:46.000Uh, like you said, I never went into the Capitol that day.
00:32:50.000And they're trying to say that because of my disruption, disruptment of the Trump impeachment in 2019, even though the plea deal was they're dropping those charges, they're now still trying to punish me for that.
00:33:03.000So, they're trying to, again, have their cake and eat it too.
00:33:06.000But how ironic is it that they want to incarcerate me for never going into the Capitol?
00:33:12.000But as I'm being sentenced, what happened that day?
00:33:15.000Democrats stormed the Capitol and raided Kevin McCarthy's office.
00:33:19.000Now, are any of them going to face jail time?
00:33:22.000Are any of them going to be prosecuted?
00:33:25.000Will they even ever step foot in a courtroom, let alone a jail cell?
00:33:31.000Not to mention the pink hat wearing disruptions, not to mention the abortion disruptions, the climate change disruptions where Democrats bring them in, the Kavanaugh hearing disruptions, the Amy Coney Barrett disruptions.
00:34:16.000The U.S. government is trying to incarcerate me for a 30-second disruption of the Trump impeachment in 2019, as the White House is saying we need the media to disrupt and push back against the Biden impeachment.
00:34:33.000So, if Biden gets impeached and there's a hearing and a Democrat reporter stands up and disrupts it, is he going to get the Medal of Honor?
00:34:40.000Is he going to get invited to the White House?
00:34:42.000Are they going to have a ceremony for him?
00:34:45.000So, it's just like impeccable timing that the Democrats storm Kevin McCarthy's office, and then the Biden administration demands that the media push back on the impeachment as I am being criminally charged, and they want to incarcerate me for a much less offense on both of those counts.
00:35:03.000And perhaps even the crazier part of this is, and this was an example that happened in 24 hours, in January of 2020, when the Trump impeachment was going on, there was a group of Trump protesters.
00:35:15.000It was about 40 Trump protesters inside the U.S. Capitol.
00:35:19.000It was inside the Capitol Rotunda, right where you might start your tour, or right before you can go into the place where they have the hearings and everything else.
00:35:27.000And there was a group of about 40 Trump protesters there.