The Charlie Kirk Show - August 13, 2023


The Brave New World of Right Media: My Conversation with Steve Bannon at ACTCON


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Steve Bannon joins me to discuss his conversation with President Trump at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in Cleveland, Ohio. We talk about his time at CPAC, his thoughts on Tucker Carlson and Megyn Kelly, and much more.

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00:00:00.000 Happy Sunday.
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00:00:53.000 Buckle up, everybody.
00:00:54.000 Here we go.
00:00:55.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:56.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
00:00:58.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
00:01:02.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
00:01:05.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:01:07.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:01:07.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:01:16.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:24.000 That's why we are here.
00:01:28.000 Steve Bannon, welcome.
00:01:30.000 Great to be here.
00:01:31.000 You know, I got to be here in person because I can't see this on Fox.
00:01:34.000 What's going on?
00:01:34.000 No, no.
00:01:35.000 You got CNN, you got MSNBC, you got All the world's hearing it.
00:01:39.000 New York Times is covering it favorably.
00:01:40.000 BBC is here.
00:01:43.000 Everybody's here.
00:01:44.000 Last night, President, one of the most powerful speeches he's given.
00:01:46.000 I would say that's a third.
00:01:47.000 You know, you got the Faith and Family Summit you had in D.C., you had the Monster Liberty, and this.
00:01:53.000 If you take those three speeches, hour and a half, prime time on a Saturday night, serious policy, not a rally speech at all.
00:02:00.000 I mean, really got down to it, not a second on Fox.
00:02:03.000 What is Fox playing on a Saturday night?
00:02:05.000 What reruns are they playing more important than that?
00:02:07.000 What do you attribute that to?
00:02:08.000 Narrative control.
00:02:09.000 They can't control.
00:02:10.000 I saw this in the articles this week.
00:02:13.000 You know, Fox and not having Charlie Kirk on, not having Turning Point.
00:02:16.000 It's narrative control.
00:02:17.000 But they don't think they can control the narrative.
00:02:17.000 Tucker laid it out.
00:02:20.000 Aren't they supposed to be a for profit company, though?
00:02:22.000 This is what most people are confused about.
00:02:24.000 I mean, are they an ideological company?
00:02:26.000 Yeah, they are for profit.
00:02:27.000 And their profits are they don't want populist nationalist policy.
00:02:31.000 You know, I got a new name.
00:02:32.000 Instead of a rhino, it's Fox Globalist Republicans, FGRs, Fox Globalists.
00:02:36.000 They are a profit company, but they're not worried about just cash flow.
00:02:39.000 They're worried about asset valuation.
00:02:40.000 So the last thing they want to see.
00:02:42.000 Is Charlie Kirk and these fire breathers at Turning Point USA come to power and have a bunch of populist policies that empowers the working class and middle class, that stops the globalist economic policy?
00:02:54.000 This organization is the anti neoliberal neocon operation.
00:02:58.000 So they are profit making.
00:02:59.000 They're sitting there down range to go, okay, we see where these guys are going and we're going to stop it by not giving it any airtime.
00:03:05.000 First off, tell me, literally, let's go back to any RNC, any other, let's add up all the conservative conferences over the last couple of years.
00:03:14.000 Show me the lineup that you guys have had in the last two days.
00:03:17.000 It blows me away.
00:03:18.000 It's unbelievable.
00:03:19.000 From Megyn Kelly to Tucker Carlson to major presidential candidates, and you open it up to other presidential candidates who wade up.
00:03:25.000 Every single one, though.
00:03:26.000 We actively did red carpet treatment for every candidate.
00:03:28.000 I could say that.
00:03:29.000 Every candidate was given, hey, we want to accommodate your schedule.
00:03:32.000 We'll treat you fairly.
00:03:33.000 How can we carve you in?
00:03:35.000 It wasn't like you need to speak at this time and no, no, no.
00:03:38.000 It was like call after call, Steve.
00:03:40.000 Then you scheduled a weekend that after the I was sober, it's open.
00:03:45.000 No excuses, my sister.
00:03:46.000 And the reason we did that, Steve, is I. Trust the grassroots so much, I want them to hear from every candidate.
00:03:50.000 I think contrast is powerful.
00:03:53.000 So tell me with this lineup, I haven't seen a second on Fox.
00:03:57.000 Forget President's speech.
00:03:58.000 I haven't seen an article either.
00:04:00.000 You haven't seen, but I can tell you CNN, BBC, MSNBC did a whole thing on it.
00:04:07.000 They got a whole crew here.
00:04:08.000 Yeah.
00:04:08.000 They've got, by the way, they got John Allen, they got Garrett Hake.
00:04:12.000 Yeah, no, they got their correspondence here.
00:04:14.000 The starting team.
00:04:15.000 These are not backup, weekend backups.
00:04:17.000 This is Jonathan Allen, the number one political writer.
00:04:19.000 Garrett is the number one guy in the House of Representatives, covering Congress.
00:04:22.000 Why is he here?
00:04:23.000 He's here because you've got Josh Hawley, you've got JD Vance, Ted Cruz.
00:04:27.000 Ted Cruz.
00:04:28.000 You've got, it's incredible.
00:04:30.000 The lineup, not one second.
00:04:31.000 That speaks volumes.
00:04:33.000 You could smell the fear on Sixth Avenue.
00:04:35.000 I wish I could take credit for it, but what it is, Steve, is it's the organization that these speakers respect.
00:04:42.000 I mean, you know, a lot of work went into it, but honestly, not a lot of convincing had to go into getting these people.
00:04:49.000 Like, logistics was the hardest part of who speaks when.
00:04:53.000 But, Steve, people were like, I'll be there.
00:04:54.000 I'll be there.
00:04:55.000 I'll be there.
00:04:56.000 It's they all see the power of what turning point is.
00:05:00.000 Well, six to 8,000 activists.
00:05:02.000 I mean, the leading activists in the country in the summer.
00:05:06.000 In Palm Beach to draw this crowd, which is, and I love the title, ACCON.
00:05:10.000 It's all about action.
00:05:11.000 It's all about using your agency, using your agency.
00:05:14.000 And these people are the ones that are going to drive it.
00:05:16.000 Remember, we're, what, 16 months away.
00:05:18.000 We're in the middle of this fake primary driven by Fox.
00:05:22.000 And then we've got a brutal general election.
00:05:24.000 It's going to be brutal, but that's only the start of it.
00:05:26.000 Then you've got January 2025, and that's when the real work begins.
00:05:30.000 And one of the things I love is you've got the Heritage guys here.
00:05:32.000 You get us talking about we need 3,000 people ready to hit the deck plates running.
00:05:37.000 We need the blue book filled with MAGA nationalist populists.
00:05:40.000 Big time.
00:05:41.000 And that's what Fox, they are a profit making organization for the Murdochs, right?
00:05:46.000 And that's why they're not here.
00:05:47.000 And that's why they want to suppress the message coming out of here.
00:05:50.000 So let's talk about the primary.
00:05:52.000 DeSantis is laying off staff.
00:05:54.000 Why do you think, and you follow this every day, why do you think he's not here?
00:05:59.000 I think he's not here because the same reason Fox is not here.
00:06:03.000 He is a creation.
00:06:04.000 Look, he's a tragic figure.
00:06:05.000 This is a guy that had a tremendous potential.
00:06:09.000 I thought the first time being a great governor, He won by the skin of his.
00:06:12.000 He was a good guy.
00:06:13.000 He is a good governor.
00:06:15.000 No use in rewriting it.
00:06:16.000 Yeah.
00:06:17.000 Up to, I think he's off track now because he's spending so much time.
00:06:19.000 No, I agree.
00:06:20.000 But his record, he did some stuff.
00:06:21.000 Absolutely.
00:06:22.000 And he got some tough stuff done.
00:06:23.000 People look like it was a 20 point win.
00:06:25.000 But here's the thing.
00:06:26.000 He bought into the old narrative.
00:06:29.000 His advisors and himself and the wife, who was chief strategist, bought into Fox can determine who it is.
00:06:37.000 This is the same thing they tried to do against Trump in 15 and they failed.
00:06:41.000 They tried again.
00:06:42.000 Ron DeSantis is a product of the Murdoch's operation.
00:06:46.000 And today we're sitting here and they're writing stories.
00:06:48.000 He's got $3 million left in cash of federal money to run the campaign.
00:06:53.000 They're going to be insolvent in about two weeks because of the burn rate.
00:06:57.000 Because they thought if I go do enough t ball over at Fox and enough little town halls and enough things like that, what they don't understand with that audience, the audience dipped, it came back.
00:07:07.000 It's an empty calories audience. 0.57
00:07:09.000 It's old people who just got it cut on and it's just playing as white noise in the background. 0.84
00:07:12.000 It can't drive a narrative, right?
00:07:15.000 It used to.
00:07:16.000 It really did.
00:07:16.000 Yeah, because before, there were no alternative.
00:07:19.000 Exactly.
00:07:20.000 Now, and I say this all the time the hardest part of War Room is staying ahead of the audience.
00:07:26.000 The audience is so sophisticated.
00:07:27.000 They've got so many sites going, and they're researching 247, and they are deep into our world.
00:07:32.000 You're my lead, Steve, so it's like.
00:07:34.000 No, but I'm sitting and looking at the live chat, Steve.
00:07:36.000 Come on, move it along.
00:07:37.000 Or you didn't talk about this.
00:07:38.000 These people, and this is what they're information warriors.
00:07:42.000 They're a vanguard, right?
00:07:44.000 They are a cadre.
00:07:45.000 They've been pulled together.
00:07:46.000 Look at the folks we have here in the middle of July in Palm Beach.
00:07:49.000 This is not tourist season down here.
00:07:51.000 Disneyland, Disney World's empty.
00:07:53.000 This place is packed.
00:07:54.000 Why?
00:07:54.000 These are warriors 24 7.
00:07:56.000 They're researching and they're activists, they're force multipliers.
00:07:59.000 And as Obama taught people, those are the people you need because in their communities, people look up to them and say, Well, this guy knows, this guy's spending the time.
00:08:05.000 He absolutely knows.
00:08:07.000 That's what Turning Point has recreated, what was the most powerful part of the Obama apparatus.
00:08:13.000 And that's why Fox can't control that.
00:08:15.000 They can control DeSantis.
00:08:17.000 Look at Ron DeSantis running as the Fox candidate, was not Ron DeSantis the governor in Florida.
00:08:22.000 No, I feel like it's two different people, right?
00:08:25.000 There was this fire breathing energy that DeSantis had when we did our tours for him last fall.
00:08:30.000 Which was like, screw you, Disney, CRT, woke stuff, all this.
00:08:34.000 And it was legit and it was there. 0.60
00:08:35.000 And then something happened around like February.
00:08:38.000 New team, different style.
00:08:40.000 And it's just like.
00:08:40.000 Well, here's one of the big things happened.
00:08:41.000 It's not just the woke, that's all very important.
00:08:44.000 But he was trying to break the neoliberal, neocon mentality of Fox.
00:08:49.000 He went out and said the forbidden thing.
00:08:51.000 A quote, the Ukraine thing, right?
00:08:53.000 Ukraine is just a territorial dispute, right?
00:08:56.000 And Eastern Russian speaking Ukraine, literally copying the Charlie Kirk, Jack Basobigan war room.
00:09:02.000 And for Fox, that was verboten.
00:09:04.000 That day, Lindsey Graham's up there.
00:09:06.000 They're all, you've been a bad boy.
00:09:07.000 You've been a bad boy.
00:09:08.000 And he genuflected.
00:09:10.000 He showed right there, he's not ready to be commander in chief.
00:09:13.000 It was T-ball.
00:09:14.000 He is a tragic figure.
00:09:16.000 The thing he should do, and I said this the other day on one of the podcasts I did interview, he should come before the American people and say, hey, guess what?
00:09:25.000 I'm dropping out.
00:09:26.000 I'm going back to Florida.
00:09:27.000 I'm going to recalibrate.
00:09:28.000 I'm going to be the greatest governor Florida's ever had.
00:09:30.000 People gave me a huge mandate.
00:09:32.000 I'm going to use that mandate.
00:09:33.000 I'll see you.
00:09:34.000 My political ambitions.
00:09:35.000 Will be based upon, yes, he's got to stop now.
00:09:38.000 He's got three kids, go raise him, be a governor, have a nice life for like the next four years.
00:09:42.000 Otherwise, you're going to finish four and a half years.
00:09:44.000 By the way, go transfer that 150 million dollars to ballot chasing in Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin, and become a hero in the 24 election.
00:09:50.000 Hero, and we would applaud him and say, Yes, like you know, or or your option is you can go down to Jenny Fleck in front of Ken Griffith and bay for some more money, and I'll be a good boy, or go up to Rupert Murdoch and say, Hey, you know, I'll do whatever you need to do, give me more airtime, and I'll try to get back in this.
00:10:06.000 Tucker Carlson showed the big lie to it the other day, Tucker Carlson in Iowa.
00:10:10.000 And this is why Tucker Carlson had such a big role, and everybody's got to get the new biography that's out.
00:10:14.000 The Tucker in Iowa with the questions he asked, and also the impact of Tucker in the NDAA debate, in the grilling of Ray by just Matt Gaetz and the Tucker Carlson guys.
00:10:30.000 Tucker Carlson sitting there in Iowa, he's asking questions that if you watch War Room, Charlie Kirk, and Basobic, it's the discussion every day.
00:10:37.000 Every day.
00:10:37.000 And the audience knows it.
00:10:38.000 And he's sitting there, and the audience understands the questions and looking for the answers.
00:10:43.000 And And Mike Pence is sitting there looking at him like, Yeah, I've heard that before, Tucker.
00:10:47.000 I've heard that coming from you before.
00:10:48.000 It's not my concern, right?
00:10:49.000 As if it's some sort of like a shtick.
00:10:51.000 He's like, Hold it.
00:10:52.000 Nikki Haley's sitting there.
00:10:54.000 It's like she has these.
00:10:56.000 And Tim Scott always tries to throw out some cute misdirection play.
00:10:59.000 It's Morning in America.
00:11:00.000 Tim, come on.
00:11:01.000 It's not Morning America, brother.
00:11:02.000 Come on.
00:11:03.000 My point is, they are clones of the Republican Party, right?
00:11:07.000 They've been walking around in junior RNC things since they were 11 years old.
00:11:12.000 They have no idea what he's talking about.
00:11:14.000 The audience.
00:11:14.000 Mike Pence says, The biggest thing you guys see, and yeah, and the Ukrainians with our weapons are killing tens of thousands of Russians.
00:11:24.000 There's 2,000 people there.
00:11:26.000 There's some guy in the back.
00:11:29.000 I mean, dude, talk about not understanding.
00:11:33.000 Go ahead, Steve.
00:11:35.000 No, no, no.
00:11:36.000 I'm just saying, Turning Point in your show, and not just that, in Turning Point, you've got all these young fire breathers.
00:11:44.000 Look at the people coming out of Turning Point.
00:11:45.000 You've got all these young fire breathers.
00:11:47.000 Pauline is a graduate, right? 0.88
00:11:49.000 I mean, you look at Candace Owens, who has been through our ranks and is back with us.
00:11:51.000 Brandon Tatum, Will Witt, Isabelle Brown.
00:11:54.000 And when you look at the tag.
00:11:55.000 They're fire breathers.
00:11:56.000 And they're the most based.
00:11:57.000 And they will not back down.
00:11:58.000 Most based in the movement.
00:11:59.000 Most based.
00:12:00.000 So, Steve, you're hitting on something that hopefully you.
00:12:02.000 And I asked this question of Tucker Carlson.
00:12:04.000 Perfect segue.
00:12:05.000 The stereotype of politicians that most people have is that they'll say anything to get elected.
00:12:10.000 But we're not actually seeing that because if that was the case, they would have pandered to the Iowa audience on Ukraine.
00:12:16.000 So, who are they pandering to?
00:12:17.000 But they're pandering to the neoliberal, neocons.
00:12:20.000 These are not.
00:12:21.000 The audience is populist nationalists.
00:12:23.000 But they're the voters.
00:12:23.000 You need them at some point.
00:12:24.000 But here's what they haven't got.
00:12:26.000 And the consultants keep telling them that.
00:12:27.000 And the donors keep telling them that.
00:12:28.000 They keep saying, you got to be mainstream.
00:12:30.000 The mainstream is populist nationalist.
00:12:34.000 That's what this conference shows.
00:12:36.000 It shows you.
00:12:37.000 We're a populist nationalist party.
00:12:39.000 David Ignatius, who's no fan of.
00:12:41.000 David Ignatius said the other day on Morning Joe, he said, This is a populist nationalist party now.
00:12:46.000 And that's why everybody from Asa Hutchison to Mike Pence, they're from the land that time forgot.
00:12:53.000 Nikki Haley's sitting there saying, We need young people with new ideas.
00:12:56.000 Her ideas are from the 1980s.
00:12:58.000 Yeah, that's right.
00:12:58.000 The world has moved on in its worst place.
00:13:00.000 Why?
00:13:01.000 Because they implemented that after Reagan left, they implemented with the Bushes, they implemented the neoliberal neocon agenda, and the American people are not having it.
00:13:09.000 Look, one of the most impressive, he didn't make the cut list here, but one of the most impressive things I've seen is Marco Rubio's new book, Decades of Decadence.
00:13:18.000 We invited him, he didn't do it.
00:13:20.000 Okay, because he hasn't, the ghostwriter for the book, he hasn't read his book yet.
00:13:24.000 Once he reads his book and memorizes it.
00:13:25.000 He's Mr. Neoliberal cheerleader.
00:13:27.000 Neoliberal neocon.
00:13:28.000 Yes.
00:13:28.000 This book, I'm sitting every page and go, who is this guy?
00:13:31.000 Marco, note to self.
00:13:33.000 Read the book, take a highlight pen out, get your ghostwriter, because it's a magnificent book, not Marco, but once you memorize that, memorize that, and then come to Amfest.
00:13:43.000 Hit the bid on Amfest, hit the stage.
00:13:46.000 And this is the point.
00:13:48.000 The point is populist nationalism, not neoliberal neocon.
00:13:51.000 And they're still listening to the donors.
00:13:53.000 They're down there with, look, for the audience, because people love doing their homework.
00:13:58.000 Here's a homework assignment go to the depositions in the Dominion case.
00:14:05.000 And Rupert Murray is supposed to be this big media maven.
00:14:08.000 He can make or break presidents.
00:14:09.000 If you look at Succession, what's the guy's name?
00:14:11.000 Chip Roy, or whatever the guy's name is.
00:14:14.000 He's deciding the fates of countries and all that stuff. 1.00
00:14:16.000 It's all crap. 0.99
00:14:17.000 Read the deposition. 1.00
00:14:18.000 It's a befuddled old man who has no earthly idea where he is at any given day.
00:14:22.000 He has no earthly idea about even the concept and how TV is structured. 0.75
00:14:26.000 He has no concept at all about elections.
00:14:28.000 He just befuddled.
00:14:29.000 They paid $800 million so he didn't have to go on, he was going to be the first witness.
00:14:34.000 They're going to have trial lawyers eviscerate him for a week.
00:14:37.000 The family said, How much is it?
00:14:39.000 Under a bayonet, hit the bid.
00:14:40.000 Okay.
00:14:41.000 And they paid $800 million not to have a trial because that's who's picking candidates and they're outraged.
00:14:49.000 Charlie, I just got to, you know, give you a heads up.
00:14:53.000 You're about in Turning Point.
00:14:55.000 They're going to come down on Turning Point like nobody's business.
00:14:57.000 We know.
00:14:58.000 They've got a blunt turning point in the direction because you have formed in every revolutionary movement, you have to have a cadre.
00:15:07.000 And that cadre has to be a combination of older people.
00:15:10.000 Who've kind of been there before and understand, hey, it's okay, we got this with their wisdom and discernment, but with the young energy and power of young people.
00:15:20.000 And you now, this started off as a college organization.
00:15:24.000 I look around here now, it's a perfect blend of race, ethnicity, and everybody.
00:15:30.000 Here's the own thing I said, people said it's a white nationalist.
00:15:32.000 I said, it has nothing to do with race, it's about spirit.
00:15:35.000 You look at this crowd here, it's united in spirit, and the Japanese call it fighting spirit.
00:15:40.000 Okay.
00:15:41.000 It's not just courage.
00:15:42.000 It's the ability to every day when you get punched to get back up and say, Hey, we're going to continue on and fight.
00:15:47.000 Remember, the battle and war is over when we decide it's over.
00:15:50.000 Right.
00:15:51.000 And we decide it's over when we win.
00:15:52.000 And so that's what this, and they can't control that.
00:15:55.000 Yes.
00:15:55.000 That's why you wait.
00:15:57.000 CNN and MSM are taking notes.
00:16:00.000 We got to get this right.
00:16:01.000 Well, and get in line.
00:16:02.000 I mean, so I want to talk about neoliberalism because you keep using that term.
00:16:07.000 Some of our newer listeners might not be as caught up.
00:16:10.000 Where does it come from?
00:16:11.000 You know, why is it so into the internal operating system of these Republicans?
00:16:15.000 They cannot shake that in their muscle memory.
00:16:18.000 It's like a speech impediment almost.
00:16:20.000 It's more returns go to capital than to labor, essentially.
00:16:23.000 That's a really good point.
00:16:25.000 When you look at returns that come from, it's not.
00:16:27.000 The populist movement is not anti capitalist.
00:16:30.000 What we are is pro entrepreneur and pro human being.
00:16:34.000 That the economy is not everything.
00:16:35.000 We're a society and a culture that has an economy.
00:16:37.000 The neoliberals, everything comes from capital, right?
00:16:41.000 And they're not truly capitalist because they don't want the diffusion of capital to the entrepreneur class.
00:16:46.000 That's why you just had Jeff Webb up there.
00:16:48.000 Jeff Webb's fantastic.
00:16:49.000 He's talking about young entrepreneurs.
00:16:51.000 Every person, you're an entrepreneur.
00:16:53.000 What Charlie Kirk is and has broken the mold, he's a political entrepreneur.
00:16:57.000 This system was so ossified.
00:16:59.000 It really was.
00:16:59.000 I remember, I met Charlie.
00:17:01.000 I think you were in college.
00:17:02.000 You dropped out of college.
00:17:03.000 You're doing this college thing.
00:17:04.000 I go, I don't know.
00:17:05.000 The student is going to take over every student government in the country.
00:17:07.000 I guess.
00:17:07.000 God bless him.
00:17:08.000 But the, but with the, with the indoctrination in the high school said, God bless him.
00:17:12.000 Better him than me.
00:17:13.000 Yeah.
00:17:14.000 Right.
00:17:14.000 But you had an idea.
00:17:17.000 The idea was bigger than that.
00:17:18.000 Your point was this is the entry point because it's so ossified.
00:17:23.000 This system's so ossified with these two parties.
00:17:25.000 Look, there's moss growing on the north side of everybody in the RNC, right?
00:17:29.000 It's, it's the sleepiest organization in the world.
00:17:32.000 You saw, and, but, Entrepreneurs, Jeff Webb talked about, you've got 6,000 people here.
00:17:37.000 Everyone's got a side hustle.
00:17:39.000 Oh, yeah.
00:17:39.000 Everybody's got a podcast.
00:17:40.000 First of all, I love it.
00:17:41.000 Everybody comes and can be on my podcast.
00:17:42.000 Hell yeah.
00:17:43.000 They got 6,000 podcasts.
00:17:45.000 Trump, Trump's not invited on Fox.
00:17:49.000 He did on CNN once and they fired everybody.
00:17:51.000 He's not on MSNBC.
00:17:52.000 He's doing Mike Tyson's podcast.
00:17:54.000 And they're sitting there going, he's doing Mike Tyson's podcast.
00:17:57.000 Trump's on guys' podcast.
00:17:58.000 I think I know everybody in the business.
00:17:59.000 He's doing podcasts.
00:18:00.000 I've never heard of him with nine people.
00:18:02.000 It's like the MAGA Mom podcast.
00:18:04.000 I've never heard about this.
00:18:05.000 They're coming on War Room next week.
00:18:07.000 You never know, right?
00:18:08.000 They're going to pop.
00:18:09.000 I'm looking for them to pop.
00:18:11.000 Exactly.
00:18:14.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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00:18:20.000 Thank you so much for listening and God bless.
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