The Charlie Kirk Show - The Hard Truth About Monkeypox with Pedro Gonzalez

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today in the Charlie Kirk show, we talk about the drama in Washington, D.C. with the latest spending bill.

00:00:06.000 And then I'm joined by Pedro Gonzalez, and we talk about monkeypox and why is it we can't tell the truth about monkeypox?

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00:01:25.000 There's so much happening that we're going to get to.

00:01:27.000 And in fact, there's been a lot of news this week that we just haven't had time to cover.

00:01:32.000 Obviously, we are now in an official recession, and the definition of a recession is now being completely and totally redefined.

00:01:40.000 We are seeing mass economic catastrophe continue to occur.

00:01:44.000 Democrat mayors are speaking out against illegals coming to their cities. 0.78

00:01:50.000 We are seeing more revelations with Hunter Biden and Joe Biden, otherwise known as Biden Incorporated.

00:01:57.000 But the story that we want to lead with today, and it's very murky and very confusing, understandably, is what is happening in Washington, D.C.

00:02:11.000 It is the reconciliation Joe Manchin spending bill fight.

00:02:20.000 Now, this is something that is not getting, I think, the attention that it deserves.

00:02:24.000 Joe Manchin is not a conservative.

00:02:27.000 Now, Joe Manchin is someone that I think received way too much praise, and I put praise on him as well, but also said throughout many different corners and turns that the Manchin agenda was always going to come to some point of negotiation and potentially sell out the entire country.

00:02:55.000 And so there's this mass legislative debate happening right now in Washington, D.C.

00:03:02.000 And Joe Manchin has shocked the world saying that he has come to some sort of middle ground or negotiation with Chuck Schumer.

00:03:14.000 Now, the details of the bill are still pending.

00:03:16.000 And Mitch McConnell has said that he has been betrayed and lied to.

00:03:21.000 And my question to Mitch McConnell is: who do you think you're dealing with exactly?

00:03:26.000 What do you think the Democrat Party actually is?

00:03:29.000 Who do you think the Democrat Party really represents?

00:03:32.000 You think they represent their voters?

00:03:34.000 Or do you think the Democrat Party represents their crony special interests and the activists in the base of the Democrat Party?

00:03:42.000 You see, Joe Manchin has been attacked by every single media outlet relentlessly.

00:03:48.000 And now Joe Manchin is trying to make good by coming to the table and saying, oh, no, no, I'm still one of you guys.

00:03:54.000 And the details of this bill are extraordinary.

00:03:57.000 It will raise taxes.

00:03:58.000 It will increase spending.

00:04:00.000 It will fund the green energy scam.

00:04:03.000 It will expand the Internal Revenue Service.

00:04:07.000 And now Mitch McConnell says that he has been betrayed.

00:04:10.000 Well, he shouldn't be shocked by the betrayal of the Democrat Party.

00:04:16.000 Democrats, you cannot negotiate with Democrats anymore.

00:04:23.000 And it shouldn't come as a massive shock that Joe Manchin is a nakedly political partisan hack.

00:04:31.000 Now, Joe Manchin, I'm glad that he did whatever he could to block the bigger HR1 and Build Back Better bill.

00:04:40.000 But this mass reconciliation bill is something that we are now going to go through, word for word.

00:04:46.000 We're going to go through all of the drama happening in Washington, D.C. and how your Republicans have just been played like a fiddle by Joe Manchin and the entire Democrat Party.

00:05:00.000 The Democrats are trying to get one last legislative victory before what I think they know is going to happen, which is Republicans rising up and their power being permanently questioned.

00:05:14.000 But it's a good lesson for us all.

00:05:16.000 You cannot trust Democrats.

00:05:18.000 Stop doing deals with them.

00:05:20.000 Mitch McConnell says he feels shocked by Joe Manchin.

00:05:24.000 Well, maybe Mitch McConnell, you shouldn't have tried to do a deal with the Democrats.

00:05:29.000 We're going to dive right into the drama happening in Washington, D.C. There's a lot happening politically.

00:05:33.000 The Arizona primary is coming up on Tuesday, of which I have endorsed the great Blake Masters.

00:05:38.000 Blake will be joining us on Monday.

00:05:40.000 We will be doing special election coverage Tuesday night from Arizona.

00:05:44.000 Arizona is the center of the conservative political universe right now, and we're going to be covering it live as it happens.

00:05:51.000 There's a lot of questions happening in the Arizona gubernatorial primary, the Senate primary, state legislative races.

00:05:57.000 The Arizona primary on Tuesday will be, let's just say, incredibly instructive as to the future of the Republican Party, the consultant class, and the grassroots.

00:06:09.000 And we are on the front lines there as this weekend is the final weekend of campaigning what's happening in Arizona.

00:06:15.000 So, but first, I want to put the political, as far as the election topic aside for a second, and talk about some of the drama happening in Washington, D.C., and on Capitol Hill.

00:06:28.000 Breaking in the last couple hours, Joe Manchin has now announced support for a climate, tax, and health care deal.

00:06:36.000 You see, on top of the $7 trillion that has been spent over the last two years, Joe Manchin and the Democrats are now deciding that another $313 billion bill is necessary to approve.

00:06:52.000 I'm reading from Axios.com.

00:06:54.000 Senator Joe Manchin announced Wednesday he planned to support a deficit reduction package that addressed both climate change and prescription drug reform, a stark reversal for the one senator who has been blocking key planks of Joe Biden's agenda.

00:07:07.000 And let me very clear, this is not a revenue generating agenda.

00:07:12.000 I'm going to show you exactly what it's going to do and how it impacts you.

00:07:16.000 If you're a small business owner, if you're an outspoken conservative taxpayer, wait till you hear what is going to happen here.

00:07:24.000 There is one component of the bill that should make every single Republican and conservative taxpayer shudder in fear.

00:07:33.000 Joe Manchin knows exactly what he's doing.

00:07:36.000 Joe Manchin knows precisely the people he is empowering, why it matters, according to Axios.com.

00:07:46.000 The declaration from Joe Manchin marks yet another about face in a year-long negotiation about the size and scope of a Democrat-only reconciliation package.

00:07:56.000 Now, mind you, this is not just Joe Manchin that now has to put his name on the line.

00:07:59.000 Raphael Warnock and the snake, Mark Kelly, who's running for Senate here in Arizona, is going to have to justify to voters of Arizona or Warnock in Georgia why he is approving another massive spending bill when it comes to this runaway inflation.

00:08:16.000 So, allegedly, the deal would generate another $313 billion in revenue.

00:08:22.000 Now, what does that mean?

00:08:24.000 It means it's going to raise your taxes.

00:08:26.000 You see, the media says, oh, yeah, it's going to generate revenue.

00:08:29.000 How does one generate revenue exactly?

00:08:32.000 By stealing more of your money.

00:08:34.000 I just love how dishonest the media is.

00:08:36.000 Yeah, we're going to generate revenue as if they're going to like flip a switch and figure it out.

00:08:40.000 No, they're going to take more of your money.

00:08:43.000 But the kicker of the whole bill, first, let's go through some of the parts of the bill that the media is going to fawn over.

00:08:51.000 The bill would spend another $369 billion while providing another $64 billion to shore up the Affordable Health Care Act.

00:09:01.000 So basically, they need $64 billion to continue the scam of Obamacare.

00:09:09.000 The reversal came just hours after the Senate passed another $280 billion package to support U.S. domestic semiconductor manufacturing.

00:09:18.000 By the way, it doesn't actually support U.S. semiconductor manufacturing.

00:09:22.000 We had Senator Scott from Florida on our program, and he walked through.

00:09:25.000 He said, they don't have to close their Chinese plants.

00:09:28.000 They don't even have to have manufacturing for semiconductors.

00:09:30.000 The whole thing is a scam.

00:09:32.000 But here is the kicker, and this is the top line that every conservative, every person needs to know.

00:09:40.000 This bill that looks like it's going to become law thanks to Joe Manchin and the Democrats includes $124 billion to the IRS.

00:09:57.000 So every Democrat out there that's about to vote for this, Mark Kelly, Raphael Warnock, we have to put them on notice immediately that while Americans are suffering, Joe Manchin is going out of his way and Kirsten Cinema, by the way, to go give $124 billion to the Internal Revenue Service.

00:10:19.000 Now, where is that money going to go?

00:10:20.000 Do you think they're going to go do more tax investigations into Hunter Biden?

00:10:25.000 No, this is going to be used as an on-demand audit squad against conservatives and conservative business owners that they don't like.

00:10:35.000 What Joe Manchin is approving, and Chuck Schumer knows because he got his biggest win in this concession, is that we are now going to have a tax equivalent of a police force to come after you.

00:10:49.000 We don't enforce our own border.

00:10:51.000 Illegals can come across into our country without anybody asking questions. 1.00

00:10:56.000 But you know what we do enforce?

00:10:58.000 We are going to go audit patriotic Americans.

00:11:00.000 Maybe you own a farm.

00:11:02.000 Maybe you take deductions for your business.

00:11:06.000 Maybe you're just doing everything to make ends meet.

00:11:10.000 What is the Democrats going to do right now?

00:11:13.000 They're going to have $124 billion going to the Internal Revenue Service.

00:11:17.000 New money going to the IRS.

00:11:19.000 By the way, the IRS is buying up ammunition and bullets.

00:11:23.000 No one is able to answer the question as to why the IRS is buying all these bullets.

00:11:28.000 Now, this is all made possible thanks to Mitch McConnell and the Democrats that have been played like a fiddle.

00:11:37.000 Mitch McConnell and the Republicans and the establishment Republicans thought that they could come to the middle and they thought that they could negotiate this deal with Joe Manchin and the Democrats, that they could reduce the radicalism with these bills.

00:11:53.000 And Joe Manchin has just stabbed all of them in the back.

00:11:56.000 But I don't blame Joe Manchin. 0.99

00:11:58.000 Joe Manchin is a serpent. 0.88

00:12:00.000 He's a Democrat after all.

00:12:02.000 Sure, he blocked the filibuster.

00:12:03.000 He used the filibuster to block HR1.

00:12:05.000 Terrific.

00:12:06.000 Great.

00:12:07.000 But when the chips are down, where does Joe Manchin go?

00:12:09.000 Joe Manchin goes to approve $124 billion to the Internal Revenue Service.

00:12:16.000 You think Joe Manchin is going to get audited anytime soon?

00:12:18.000 No, but you might.

00:12:20.000 If you own a business and you take deductions, they are going to use the political Stasi, otherwise known as the Internal Revenue Service, to come knocking on your door.

00:12:32.000 You understand how much $124 billion is?

00:12:35.000 That's almost as much money as we're going to give Ukraine probably by Christmas.

00:12:38.000 It's a lot of money.

00:12:40.000 So what are the priorities of Washington, D.C.?

00:12:43.000 Well, Republicans say, let's go send $56 billion to Ukraine.

00:12:47.000 And in all fairness, no Republicans are going to vote for this.

00:12:49.000 Even Susan Collins and Murkowski.

00:12:51.000 They're not going to send money.

00:12:53.000 They're not going to do this, but they don't need it.

00:12:54.000 They can go through reconciliation.

00:12:57.000 But we have to make the message very clear.

00:12:59.000 Mark Kelly, the people of Arizona are not going to put up with this.

00:13:03.000 Blake Masters is going to bring this to you every single day.

00:13:06.000 Raphael Warnock, Herschel Walker, is going to bring this to you every single day.

00:13:09.000 This is a riskier vote, I think, than Democrats realize.

00:13:13.000 They're like, oh, yeah, people want this.

00:13:14.000 $124 billion to the Internal Revenue Service.

00:13:18.000 I guarantee if we did a public approval poll of the Internal Revenue Service, I don't think they're going to be above 50%.

00:13:26.000 You're going to go give $124 billion to the IRS to allow them to do harsher audits, more investigations, to go take more money.

00:13:34.000 They say, well, it's just for enforcement.

00:13:38.000 So let's say they go try to enforce taxes against a multi-billionaire.

00:13:42.000 You know what they do?

00:13:43.000 They counter with accountants and lawyers and they don't even feel the hit.

00:13:47.000 So where do they go instead?

00:13:48.000 They will have a flurry, a blitzkrieg of audits against people that are running businesses that do anywhere between $350,000 and $600,000 in revenue, maybe turning a $75,000 to $100,000 profit, and they're taking some deductions, and they are going to be targeted ruthlessly.

00:14:06.000 The Internal Revenue Service was never held accountable for what they did with Lois Lerner.

00:14:11.000 The Internal Revenue Service has not been held accountable for destroying devices.

00:14:16.000 And this is a fire alarm.

00:14:18.000 I'm telling you right now what's going on in Washington, D.C.

00:14:20.000 This is nothing more than a personal financial political move to try to strangle and suffocate Republicans and conservatives via the IRS.

00:14:31.000 And it looks like Joe Manchin is going to vote for it.

00:14:33.000 And McConnell says, I feel so betrayed.

00:14:35.000 Hey, guess what, McConnell?

00:14:36.000 They're Democrats.

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00:16:20.000 And so Joe Manchin approves $124 billion to the Internal Revenue Service.

00:16:27.000 Let me ask you a question.

00:16:29.000 Do you think when the IRS gets $124 billion, they will spend that money investigating churches or investigating abortion clinics?

00:16:39.000 When the IRS gets $124 billion in additional funding, do you think they're going to audit businesses that stand for traditional marriage, maybe donate to conservative candidates?

00:16:53.000 Or are they going to be more likely to audit businesses that have the transgender and gay flag outside of them?

00:17:01.000 I don't trust the IRS.

00:17:03.000 After the targeting scandal that we saw with Lois Lerner, and no one was held accountable, and Lois Lerner, by the way, still receives her full pension, full pension, no questions asked.

00:17:14.000 And here Joe Manchin is coming to the table and is saying we're going to give another $124 billion.

00:17:22.000 And that's not the entirety of the bill.

00:17:26.000 The bill also includes a massive sum for, quote, green energy.

00:17:34.000 Part of the bill here says the Senate Commerce Committee says $20 billion this will go to a new directorate for technology and innovation, promising a STEM workforce and to create broad-based research opportunities.

00:17:50.000 The National Science Foundation will get another $81 billion.

00:17:55.000 The Commerce Department will get another $11 billion.

00:17:59.000 The core of the bill is $76 billion in direct funding for domestic semiconductor manufacturing.

00:18:07.000 Now, this is part of the CHIPS bill, and so we're actually talking about two separate things here: the CHIPS bill and then this other new bill.

00:18:13.000 The CHIPS bill, by the way, is unbelievably corrupt, and it does not do anything close to what they said it would do.

00:18:20.000 It doesn't require the CHIPS Act.

00:18:23.000 It doesn't require companies to re-domicile to America.

00:18:27.000 It doesn't require them to shut down their Chinese ties or plants.

00:18:32.000 It doesn't even require them to make it semiconductor manufacturing.

00:18:35.000 It just has to be semiconductor adjacent.

00:18:37.000 The entire bill has become a mockery.

00:18:41.000 On top of this, Joe Manchin has now approved $60 billion to address the disproportionate burden of pollution on low-income communities and communities of color.

00:18:54.000 In addition to this, the senator from West Virginia, who seems to be as if he's creating a Green New Deal equivalent, says that he's going to have $27 billion for a green bank aimed at delivering financial support to clean energy projects.

00:19:10.000 What?

00:19:12.000 We now have a new federal bank that is being created called the Green Bank.

00:19:18.000 Yeah, there'll be no corruption at all.

00:19:20.000 Might I remind you of Solyndra?

00:19:24.000 Solyndra was a solar panel project for Obama cronies that went completely and totally defunct of backslapping cronyism.

00:19:37.000 $27 billion in this bill aimed at delivering financial support to clean energy projects.

00:19:44.000 And another $20 billion for programs to cut emissions in the agricultural sector.

00:19:53.000 It continues by saying we are going to raise taxes, increasing the corporate minimum tax to 15%.

00:20:02.000 Now, that sounds like a good idea.

00:20:03.000 Yeah, corporate minimum tax.

00:20:05.000 You know how many people file as small businesses as S-Corps and C-Corps that are now going to have their taxes raised in the midst of a recession?

00:20:14.000 The worst thing you can do when you have recessionary pressure is to increase the confiscatory tax policies from the government.

00:20:24.000 It's economics 101.

00:20:26.000 You're not supposed to raise taxes, I think, ever, let alone raise taxes in the midst of a recession.

00:20:30.000 But guess what?

00:20:32.000 These big corporations, they're not going to mind this because they'll go to the green energy carve-outs.

00:20:38.000 They'll go to, I don't know, the green bank that's been created.

00:20:41.000 But the local laundromat, the local restaurant, they are going to get crushed by this.

00:20:48.000 And if you dare step out of line, if you fly a MAGA flag outside of your restaurant, if you don't flat, you know, if you don't have the appropriate virtue signaling in your diversity, equity, and inclusion statement, then you might get audited.

00:21:06.000 Because now the IRS has another $124 billion to go after you.

00:21:13.000 Now, this bill is all but a guarantee.

00:21:16.000 And we could still kill this bill.

00:21:17.000 But believe it or not, Joe Manchin is not the person we should put pressure on.

00:21:20.000 Forget Joe Manchin.

00:21:21.000 He's a waste of time.

00:21:22.000 He showed his colors.

00:21:23.000 You know who actually might falter if we put enough pressure on?

00:21:27.000 The at-risk battleground state Democrats of Mark Kelly and Raphael Warnock.

00:21:31.000 This is not an automatic vote.

00:21:35.000 Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.

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00:22:34.000 We went into detail a little bit detail yesterday.

00:22:36.000 I think too much detail, but it's fine about this whole monkeypox situation. 0.84

00:22:42.000 San Francisco has now declared a state of emergency for monkeypox.

00:22:49.000 I want to play Cut 92.

00:22:51.000 Ned Ryan went viral for saying this, and it's politically incorrect to say it, but he said the quiet part out loud.

00:22:58.000 And the reason I support this is not to be insensitive towards people or whatever.

00:23:03.000 It's that I will not tolerate a quote-unquote public health emergency again without the full factual counter moves that we have at our disposal.

00:23:14.000 Play Cut 92.

00:23:16.000 As for monkeypox, I think there's a pretty good rule in life. 0.99

00:23:20.000 Don't attend gay orgies. 1.00

00:23:22.000 When you look at the New England Journal's report of the five-year-olds, Ned, come on, man. 0.99

00:23:27.000 It's not about gay. 0.74

00:23:29.000 How about not annoying?

00:23:31.000 Go look at the New England Journal's report that NBC News reported on on Friday, in which of the 528 cases they reviewed, 95% were between sex between men.

00:23:43.000 I think we actually have to have a serious conversation about where this is coming from.

00:23:46.000 When I'm done, Brad, you can talk.

00:23:48.000 Instead of going crazy and declaring a national pandemic when 3,000 people have it right now, it's insane.

00:23:54.000 Joining us right now is Pedro Gonzalez.

00:23:56.000 Pedro, welcome to the program.

00:23:58.000 Is Ned Ryan correct?

00:24:00.000 Yeah, Ned Ryan is totally on point.

00:24:02.000 And it's really depressing to see Fox News with a few exceptions.

00:24:08.000 I mean, Tucker Carlson really does seem to be kind of on an island of sanity here, but you're seeing this more and more from Fox, where they're basically accepting a lot of the LGBT stuff and taking these kind of politically correct stances on this.

00:24:23.000 And you saw that everyone in that interview was uncomfortable with Ned Ryan simply stating the facts, right?

00:24:29.000 And it's infuriating because we just got through this whole thing where we shut down churches and gyms and schools.

00:24:37.000 Yes.

00:24:38.000 And people were not allowed to attend funerals for their family members, right?

00:24:43.000 We ruined people's lives over this, over COVID, over the spicy flu, but we're not allowed to even comment on the lifestyles of gay men because for some reason, we've decided that they're like a sacred people whose way of whose fetishes and proclivities are just completely above comment to the point where we're just denying reality. 0.80

00:25:07.000 I also want to be clear about what Ned Ryan said there. 0.92

00:25:11.000 He said gay orgies, and that somehow was like met with response. 0.84

00:25:16.000 I mean, that's just what planet are we living on here, Pedro? 0.98

00:25:19.000 And I think you made such a smart point.

00:25:21.000 And everyone has their own different views on, you know, the gay issue.

00:25:25.000 You and I are both very pro-traditional marriage.

00:25:28.000 That's not even the core center of this.

00:25:29.000 The question that I think that we all have, though, is why is it that pastors and churches and going to Easter service, remember, in 2020 was met with condemnation?

00:25:40.000 It was met with backlash.

00:25:42.000 It was met with shaming.

00:25:43.000 It was met with lockdowns.

00:25:45.000 The holiest day on the Christian calendar was completely eliminated. 0.99

00:25:49.000 And saying that, hey, according to the reports, gay orgies are the reason why monkeypox is being spread. 1.00

00:25:59.000 And that is a truth you can't say out loud. 0.99

00:26:02.000 Why is that?

00:26:04.000 Yeah, that's a really good question.

00:26:06.000 And I'm honestly not sure how we arrived at this point. 0.93

00:26:10.000 It defies all reason how we have arrived at this point that somehow gay orgies are more sanctified than places of worship. 0.87

00:26:21.000 You know, that we can't shut these places down.

00:26:24.000 But it's so true.

00:26:24.000 I hate to say it.

00:26:25.000 But it's totally true.

00:26:26.000 No, I mean, it's just, yeah, keep going, please.

00:26:29.000 No, I mean, with the response to Ned's thing was also kind of delusional, right?

00:26:35.000 It's like, well, all orgies are bad. 0.91

00:26:39.000 It's like, okay, yeah, orgies, yeah, all orgies are gross. 0.89

00:26:42.000 I agree.

00:26:43.000 But there's one group of people in society that is overrepresented in this kind of behavior.

00:26:49.000 That's not to say everyone who is a gay man does that stuff.

00:26:53.000 But we all know that there's one group that is more likely than others to participate in that behavior.

00:26:58.000 But we're not even allowed to comment on this.

00:27:01.000 And again, if we agree that this is a public health crisis, it's an emergency to be taken seriously.

00:27:07.000 Exactly right.

00:27:07.000 Then we should also talk about it in a sober way, but we can't because we have these sacred cows.

00:27:13.000 And I mean, on Fox News, you had a panelist called Ned Ryan referred to his comments as bigoted.

00:27:21.000 This is the state, the absolute state of the United States.

00:27:25.000 I do want to make sure I balance this, though.

00:27:26.000 I mean, just with the thing on Fox is that Tucker has had some pretty intense commentary and he's given a free even to say it.

00:27:33.000 But I agree.

00:27:34.000 The way it was handled, you know, was not proper, but the network has allowed back and forth because, I mean, I think what did Tucker call it schlong COVID or something?

00:27:43.000 I mean, it's a little spotted.

00:27:45.000 You're right.

00:27:46.000 No, that's why I prefaced before I know.

00:27:49.000 Yeah, that's important.

00:27:50.000 Yeah, no, Tucker is sitting on top of the world right now in terms of like he obviously is consistently correct in this messaging, but I think everyone notices this kind of this gap, you know, between what he says and then what you're hearing from other Fox programs.

00:28:06.000 Friedrich Nietzsche used to say, Pedro, that every society has a central piety that you aren't allowed to make fun of.

00:28:17.000 Right.

00:28:19.000 Why are churches and Christians okay to make fun of relentlessly? 1.00

00:28:23.000 Mock their religion, mock their faith, mock the nuclear family, but the other is not. 0.99

00:28:30.000 Why is that?

00:28:31.000 Well, I think we have a variety of protected groups, right?

00:28:35.000 We have these sacred people, minority groups.

00:28:40.000 Honestly, I probably could be folded into one of these categories because of my fact that I'm a teenager.

00:28:48.000 Yeah, I belong to a protected group, right?

00:28:51.000 Like that's the system has to protect me from people like you, Charlie.

00:28:55.000 But it does seem like this particular group is above others, right?

00:29:00.000 So what explains that?

00:29:01.000 And I think it has to do with this group being kind of the embodiment of the sexual revolution, right?

00:29:11.000 Our crusade to remove all social stigma, all taboos.

00:29:16.000 And taboos are good, by the way.

00:29:17.000 We have taboos for a reason, like on incest, right?

00:29:20.000 Yes.

00:29:21.000 Or pedophilia, right?

00:29:21.000 And rage.

00:29:23.000 Pedophilia, correct. 0.94

00:29:24.000 We have taboos for a good reason, often.

00:29:27.000 But this was the direction of the sexual revolution that basically any constraints on behavior that are imposed by law, tradition, morality, public decency, things like that, that all these are somehow repressive and bad, and we have to eliminate them, basically all safeguards on society.

00:29:47.000 And I think that that is why this particular group is so fiercely protected by the established political order, because they kind of represent that.

00:29:58.000 I think you have to think of it in terms of symbolism, right?

00:30:01.000 And so when you start to critique that protected group, you're not just engaging in a kind of rational discussion about the implications of a health crisis or whatever.

00:30:11.000 You're kind of taking a swing at something like a religious icon.

00:30:15.000 It's essentially crazy.

00:30:18.000 Exactly.

00:30:19.000 You cannot go after it.

00:30:21.000 It would be as if how a Catholic population would react to be putting Mother Mary in a jar of urine because something similar happened, by the way, in the United Kingdom years ago.

00:30:29.000 You might remember there was all this, I think it was the crucifix, not Mother Mary.

00:30:32.000 But the point is that the outrage it was received is the same way you see with this.

00:30:38.000 I want to play a piece of tape here.

00:30:40.000 Play Cut 40, CDC Director Rochelle Walensky.

00:30:44.000 And I want you to listen to this carefully, Pedro.

00:30:46.000 I know you commented on this, but there's this glaring revelation in this comment by our public health official.

00:30:52.000 And before we go any further, I just want to be very clear.

00:30:55.000 The reason why Pedro, Ned Ryan, and I get so fired up about this is because all of a sudden we're supposed to keep our mouths quiet as our freedoms and liberties and vaccine mandates and mask mandates are supposed to come back.

00:31:04.000 It's like, yeah, I'm sorry, we've played this game and I'm not going to sit idly by and act like this is normal.

00:31:09.000 Okay, PlayCut 40.

00:31:11.000 We do have seen now two cases that have occurred in children. 0.95

00:31:16.000 Both of those children are traced back to individuals who come from the men who have sex with men community, the gay men community. 0.87

00:31:26.000 And so when we have seen those cases in children, they have generally been what I call adjacent to the community most at risk.

00:31:33.000 Pedro?

00:31:34.000 Yeah, I'm not sure I can comment on that without getting myself kicked off your show permanently because it's speculative and it's, I mean, but the children cart.

00:31:44.000 I mean, why is that like so flippantly mentioned?

00:31:46.000 That's what I, who are these today? 0.96

00:31:48.000 Who raped the kids, right? 0.99

00:31:49.000 That's a question I think we should ask, right?

00:31:51.000 Or what kind of behavior are the adults engaging in that is exposing these kids to that, right?

00:31:58.000 I mean, it's a massive elephant in the room.

00:32:02.000 But again, we're not allowed to do anything more than kind of speculate, right?

00:32:08.000 Because it's forbidden.

00:32:09.000 This is a protected group.

00:32:11.000 Yeah, but it's iconoclastic.

00:32:13.000 Yeah.

00:32:13.000 And just, I do you see that starting to change, though, on the right?

00:32:16.000 Do you think that there's been more boldness on this topic?

00:32:20.000 Yes, absolutely.

00:32:21.000 And I think it's actually, it's not like we've been just making great arguments and they've finally convinced people.

00:32:28.000 Oftentimes it takes a kind of shock to the system.

00:32:31.000 Yeah, I think that's right.

00:32:32.000 And that is exactly what the dichotomy between how we handled COVID and how we handled and discussed COVID versus how we're handling and discussing monkeypox, right? 0.86

00:32:45.000 It's just for two for too many people, it's just too much, it's too in-your-face hypocritical. 0.89

00:32:51.000 You know, like we had police arrest pastors. 0.86

00:32:56.000 That's exactly right.

00:32:57.000 Yes.

00:32:58.000 We had police taser parents here in Ohio who attended outdoor baseball games without wearing masks, but we're not allowed to talk about why gay orgies are problematic in the context of a public health crisis or whatever.

00:33:14.000 We're not allowed to talk about that.

00:33:15.000 And then also, it's like, wait a second, I have to now potentially entertain lockdowns, more medical tyranny for somebody's morally degenerate behavior.

00:33:26.000 Like that's that's where all of a sudden this now becomes everybody's problem. 0.98

00:33:30.000 You know, somebody said, Charlie, why do you care about all the gay orgies? 0.70

00:33:33.000 It's like, yeah, I don't know if you really want an answer to that question, but I'll tell you why everyone should care because they're now using this as a prerequisite to take away our fundamental liberties again.

00:33:43.000 And also, it just begs the question: I know pastors like my pastor, Rob McCoy in California, who faced massive amounts of fines, arrest, you know, possibly arrested, had to go in front of the judge.

00:33:54.000 Why?

00:33:54.000 He had church service on Easter.

00:33:56.000 That's what he wanted to do, Pedro.

00:33:57.000 He wanted to have church service, and they came after him with the full force of government.

00:34:02.000 It seems as if that's not going to happen in the bathhouses of San Francisco, but I do think conservatives are getting a little bit more bold and quite honestly ticked off with like, you know what, you're not going to lock us down again.

00:34:13.000 It's not going to happen, especially given the circumstances here.

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00:35:19.000 Pedro, I want your quick reaction. 0.99

00:35:21.000 The question is, Charlie, the question is this: are we going to lock down again because we do not want to insult gay men who go to orgies and have unprotected sex? 0.99

00:35:28.000 Dr. Ryan Cole said, just put a condom on and don't go to orgies. 1.00

00:35:31.000 Pedro, that's the question, isn't it? 0.62

00:35:33.000 Are we afraid of the sensitivities of a certain group of people?

00:35:37.000 It seems that way, yeah.

00:35:38.000 It seems like our insistence on being politically correct is going to lead us in a direction where we will do literally everything except telling the truth.

00:35:50.000 If that means that we have to lock you in your house and force yet another experimental vaccine on you in order to protect this protected, this sacred group, then yeah, I mean, there are certainly absolutely people that want to do that.

00:36:05.000 And if given power, they will do that.

00:36:08.000 Yeah.

00:36:08.000 And I mean, just the lockdowns, they are so, they're so eager to go back to this medical emergency.

00:36:16.000 And it's the, they, they're in it, they're in a tough spot.

00:36:20.000 And we're going to talk about this after this short break, Pedro, because they can't really tell the truth about this particular one because their core constituency is comprised of one of the communities.

00:36:31.000 Pedro, I want to read to you one of these things here.

00:36:34.000 It says, this person says, I got monkeypox as a straight man.

00:36:40.000 And he says, I want everyone to know, even as a straight person who dabbles in non-straight sex occasionally, you can still get monkeypox. 0.96

00:36:49.000 And so I know this is, so the tweet says, even straight men who occasionally engage in gay sex with other men can get monkeypox. 0.98

00:36:57.000 And then Anthony Fauci says the following. 0.94

00:36:59.000 I want to play this and your reaction, PlayCut 53.

00:37:02.000 Is this a situation if and when there's enough vaccine that ultimately the whole population or larger populations will get vaccinated for monkeypox?

00:37:09.000 I would doubt that that's the case because what we're seeing right now, and it could change, it could go beyond the population of men who have sex with men, but go well beyond that.

00:37:18.000 For example, if you look within the population of men who have sex with men, those who are on pre-exposure prophylaxis for HIV and are at risk, those are the people that you want to vaccinate. 1.00

00:37:29.000 So there's an entire layered group of people who are at risk.

00:37:32.000 That's what we need to do.

00:37:34.000 Pedro? 0.98

00:37:35.000 This just sounds like we're talking about gay men with extra steps. 0.99

00:37:39.000 Like, I don't, I don't like, yeah, this, it's, uh, it's, it's actually really hilarious.

00:37:46.000 Uh, you know, it's like, well, there's another group. 0.91

00:37:48.000 There's, there's, there's, on the one hand, there's men who have sex with men. 0.94

00:37:51.000 And on the other, on the other hand, there's men who occasionally have sex with men. 0.84

00:37:54.000 It's like this, we're talking about the same group here. 0.53

00:37:57.000 We're just kind of dancing around it.

00:37:58.000 Or people who, yeah, I don't know.

00:38:01.000 Men who dabble, Pedro.

00:38:03.000 Yeah, men who dabble. 0.99

00:38:04.000 This is clown world. 0.97

00:38:05.000 What you're seeing right now on your, on your screen is clown world at its finest.

00:38:09.000 It's incredibly amusing, but also there are there are serious implications like giving people like Fauci more power who belong in jail.

00:38:18.000 Yes, that's exactly right.

00:38:19.000 So Pedro, just shifting gears for a second, the Republican established in Washington, D.C. keeps on sending more money to Ukraine.

00:38:27.000 What is the latest on the ground in Ukraine?

00:38:29.000 It's hard to get accurate reports.

00:38:30.000 I know your reporting on this has been phenomenal.

00:38:32.000 We only have a couple of minutes.

00:38:33.000 What's going on?

00:38:34.000 Yeah.

00:38:35.000 What's going on is that the United States is the United States government, very different from the American people, is continuing its campaign of basically throwing as many Ukrainian bodies as it can at the Russian military as part of its goal to essentially weaken Russia and ultimately create conditions that are conducive for regime change.

00:39:00.000 I mean, that's the long and short of it.

00:39:03.000 So much of the information that's coming out of Ukraine is just propaganda.

00:39:07.000 Like you open the news to see about the latest Ukrainian war news, and it's like the Ukrainian intelligence claims that it's killed 200 Russian generals and Zelensky is about to march on Moscow.

00:39:21.000 And it's so difficult to get good information out of this kind of fog of war.

00:39:28.000 But what we do know is that three months ago, the experts, the military experts, our foremost minds were saying things like, in 10 days, the Russian military is going to collapse.

00:39:38.000 And when that didn't happen, it was like, okay, in the next 10 days, it's going to collapse.

00:39:42.000 Okay, that didn't happen.

00:39:43.000 In 20 days, Russia will run out of missiles.

00:39:46.000 In five more days, the Russian government, the economy is going to collapse due to sanctions.

00:39:51.000 So what we know is that the war is continuing and that the United States government is doing everything it can to protract this conflict at the expense of Ukrainians, Russians, and obviously Americans, because ultimately we're the ones really footing the bill for this conflict and ultimately are putting, we're being put in a position where we might someday end up fighting it.

00:40:12.000 And then Pedro, super quick, they posed for a Vogue photo shoot.

00:40:16.000 Right.

00:40:17.000 Zelensky. 0.75

00:40:18.000 Zelensky is the ultimate, he's the ultimate neoliberal puppet.

00:40:21.000 Like he's he's a complete cipher.

00:40:23.000 The guy, you know, slips off his skin-tight spandex and drag and high heels and stuff and like jumps into a green t-shirt for a vogue photo shoot.

00:40:33.000 If you don't know what I'm talking about, there's a video of him and Drake.

00:40:35.000 No, the photo shoot is, I mean, I think it's also super insensitive to the suffering of the Ukrainian people, though.

00:40:41.000 No, it's important to really emphasize that Zelensky is a villain.

00:40:46.000 Like if you, if you're concerned about the Ukrainian people, I agree. 1.00

00:40:49.000 I, you know, civilian casualties are tragic.

00:40:51.000 It's awful.

00:40:52.000 And war is tragic.

00:40:54.000 Zelensky doesn't care about that.

00:40:56.000 The guy that does Vogue photo shoots and is like on Zoom calls with his World Economic Forum buddies cares about the plight of the Ukrainian people.

00:41:03.000 I mean, this is not the one that's going to drink.

00:41:04.000 I mean, we have a picture up on screen, Pedro, and we're running out of time, but your people are starving.

00:41:09.000 They are war-torn.

00:41:10.000 There are children being massacred.

00:41:12.000 And you bring in a photo shoot where you have to, I mean, Vogue is known as you're here to kind of, it's like the ultimate narcissist's kind of indulgence in narcissism in the midst of a war and you get photographed like that.

00:41:25.000 I think it's repulsive. 0.90

00:41:26.000 I think it's disgusting, actually.

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00:41:33.000 God bless you, Pedro.

00:41:33.000 Thank you.

00:41:34.000 Thank you.

00:41:35.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - July 29, 2022

The Hard Truth About Monkeypox with Pedro Gonzalez

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