The Charlie Kirk Show - January 22, 2026


The Left's Latest Lie About ICE


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Ice storm warnings are out in Minneapolis and St. Paul, and there are already 2 arrests in the streets of the two cities. I discuss the latest in a series of events that are happening across the country, including the latest on the Don Lemon and Chantel Allen arrests.

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00:01:09.000 All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:01:11.000 It's January 22nd.
00:01:12.000 It's great to be back in the studio with all of you here in Phoenix, Arizona, while the rest of the country is about to be plunged into the depths of a historic ice storm.
00:01:21.000 Negative 45 degrees is what it's going to feel like in Minneapolis, St. Paul.
00:01:25.000 Negative 45.
00:01:28.000 I'm hearing the protests are fizzling.
00:01:30.000 They hate ice, but they're about to get plunged by ice.
00:01:34.000 Can you fizzle at 45 degrees below this?
00:01:36.000 I don't know what you can do.
00:01:36.000 All I know is that you can actually get frostbite.
00:01:41.000 If your skin is exposed to negative 45-degree weather for 10 minutes, you can get frostbite.
00:01:46.000 So I hope that the Kamikaze Karens and the beta males try and go out and protest ICE this weekend.
00:01:55.000 I just want to see them try.
00:01:56.000 But that is an interesting little, I keep telling you, the weather is our friend in Minneapolis this time of year.
00:02:03.000 So it is.
00:02:05.000 By the way, it's like going to, everybody's talking about it.
00:02:07.000 I went down this deep rabbit hole last night looking at these weather models and it's predicted.
00:02:12.000 I mean, the whole country, you should studio, get some weather models of like this plunging cold that's going down.
00:02:18.000 I mean, they're going to get snow all over.
00:02:19.000 Texas, it's basically like Arizona, Southern California, and Florida are going to be a little bit immune.
00:02:25.000 Nice.
00:02:26.000 But even here, it's going to be a little colder.
00:02:27.000 But this is a good time to be in Arizona.
00:02:30.000 So maybe you guys should consider a plane ticket.
00:02:34.000 Get yourself over here before it's too late, honestly.
00:02:38.000 So a bunch of our team is going to be traveling and they're all kind of trying to navigate through the weather.
00:02:42.000 Lots of stuff going on right now.
00:02:45.000 But this morning we were hit by two main news stories.
00:02:49.000 Well, actually, I could say three.
00:02:51.000 There is arrests happening in Minneapolis.
00:02:57.000 Obviously, they stormed a church on Sunday.
00:03:01.000 Don Lamon, Don Lemon, was there as a part of this.
00:03:04.000 A lot of uproar.
00:03:05.000 I was pretty upset about it.
00:03:06.000 We were pretty worked up about it.
00:03:08.000 Pretty disgusting stuff, honestly.
00:03:10.000 And now there are arrests happening.
00:03:12.000 We have Nakima Levy Armstrong, who is now been arrested.
00:03:19.000 She was the instigator of this protest, if you want to call it a protest. 0.74
00:03:24.000 Face act violations incoming. 0.97
00:03:24.000 Pretty disgusting. 0.97
00:03:26.000 They're also charging her, which is an ironic.
00:03:28.000 If you look at that image, Blake, they're charging her on the KKK Act, potentially.
00:03:33.000 And so that I'll just let the irony speak for itself here in that image.
00:03:39.000 And then there was a second arrest that's been announced already.
00:03:42.000 St. Paul school board member Chantil Allen.
00:03:46.000 And she's in federal custody.
00:03:48.000 I'm told more arrests are incoming.
00:03:53.000 We heard, by the way, that Pam Bondi was going to be in Minneapolis.
00:03:57.000 Then there was a day of silence.
00:03:58.000 didn't hear anything, then boom, this morning we get two arrests.
00:04:02.000 I think this is important because accountability matters.
00:04:05.000 There are arrests happening all over with protesters that are not nationally known figures.
00:04:10.000 The stories didn't go nationally viral.
00:04:11.000 There's dozens and dozens of arrests happening every day.
00:04:14.000 I want to be clear about that.
00:04:16.000 But when you have something this high profile, this viral, you know, occur in Minneapolis, it involves Christians. 0.98
00:04:23.000 You see crying kids, total bad optics for the demed, for the libs.
00:04:23.000 It involves a church.
00:04:28.000 It's important that there is an accountability measure.
00:04:31.000 There's a full circle moment that.
00:04:32.000 And I'll be frank, I'm glad I was a little worried that the first person they would try to arrest would be Don Lemon, Donald Mon, because it's the most high-profile one.
00:04:42.000 It got the most attention on TV.
00:04:45.000 Do you think he should be arrested?
00:04:46.000 Honestly, I think his behavior was very bad, but and he does definitely support the protests, but he's also, he's not the one.
00:04:56.000 He's not screaming in there.
00:04:57.000 He is just sort of following in the background.
00:05:00.000 And I think you'd have to want to be clear.
00:05:02.000 Did someone tell him to leave?
00:05:03.000 Did someone make it clear he also wasn't welcome there?
00:05:06.000 I'd have to know more facts about it specifically.
00:05:09.000 But you want to be careful that you aren't just grabbing the most famous thing, the most emotional thing.
00:05:13.000 I'm glad that they bothered to arrest the actual ringleaders first.
00:05:17.000 No, you're right.
00:05:18.000 It's legally more sound.
00:05:19.000 Go for the more legally sound stuff because it's so easy to seize on what is emotionally cathartic.
00:05:26.000 But what you want is the end result that's really strong.
00:05:28.000 And we want to have a case that you can get a conviction on, or at least a very credible case that can show that there is a cost to doing this.
00:05:38.000 And you want that degree of.
00:05:40.000 Well, I actually agree with this.
00:05:41.000 And some of you in the audience, I'd love to hear your thoughts because I have a feeling you're going to disagree with me on this.
00:05:46.000 And I'm sort of, I'm sympathetic to what Blake is saying because what you don't want to do is you don't want to create martyrs.
00:05:51.000 So email us freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:05:54.000 It kind of reminds me of the Senator Kelly thing.
00:05:57.000 You got to understand.
00:05:58.000 So Senator Kelly did an obscene thing.
00:06:00.000 He told troops to basically disobey orders.
00:06:02.000 Now he called them unlawful orders, but who the heck is to define what an unlawful order is?
00:06:06.000 He knew darn well that he was saying disobey direct orders.
00:06:11.000 He's getting an administrative punishment.
00:06:13.000 So he's going to get probably demoted.
00:06:15.000 His pay is going to be docked.
00:06:16.000 It's dishonorable.
00:06:17.000 If you are in the military, you know that that's a dishonorable thing to happen.
00:06:20.000 That's a very insulting, embarrassing thing to happen.
00:06:23.000 But when you're a sitting senator, you got to also consider that Senator Kelly is probably, he says he has not ruled out running for president, which means he's strongly considering it.
00:06:34.000 And so if you come after him with the full weight and force of the federal government, guess what's what's going to happen?
00:06:38.000 He's become a folk hero.
00:06:40.000 He's going to become a martyr.
00:06:41.000 He's going to use that in every single ad running for president. 0.90
00:06:44.000 And he's an awful senator. 0.96
00:06:45.000 He's a terrible guy. 0.97
00:06:46.000 There's an opile a mile long about this guy in the state of Arizona. 0.97
00:06:50.000 So, okay.
00:06:52.000 Now, here's what I will say.
00:06:53.000 Don Lemon probably deserves to get prosecuted.
00:06:56.000 He was seen kissing this woman that was just arrested before they protested the church.
00:07:02.000 And then he's not illegal to do this.
00:07:03.000 Then he said, no, but he's claiming he was an independent investigator, which or a journalist. 0.99
00:07:08.000 That's garbage. 1.00
00:07:09.000 He's kissing her. 1.00
00:07:10.000 Then he says on video, we have this.
00:07:14.000 Thank you for your service.
00:07:15.000 And it is no mystery that he was very in favor of what was going on with this moment at the church.
00:07:22.000 He said, you got to make, you got to traumatize people sometimes.
00:07:24.000 You got to make them uncomfortable.
00:07:25.000 That's what protesting is.
00:07:27.000 And then he goes in with AJ Attorney General Keith Ellison and he says, you know, that's the essence of the First Amendment. 1.00
00:07:33.000 No, Don Lemon, you're an idiot. 1.00
00:07:35.000 You're not a smart person. 1.00
00:07:36.000 You're a washed-up has been who's fighting for relevancy. 0.99
00:07:39.000 We know exactly what your game is.
00:07:41.000 You got ran out of CNN.
00:07:43.000 You backstabbed, stabbed your friend Chris Cuomo, by the way, which is a real peach of a move. 1.00
00:07:48.000 And then you're out there acting like an idiot. 1.00
00:07:50.000 And you probably do deserve to get punished legally. 1.00
00:07:54.000 You chased a guy around the property trying to press him with fake questions.
00:07:57.000 You knew it was an operation.
00:07:59.000 And, you know, the point is, though, listen, I'm in favor. 0.65
00:08:02.000 Maybe give him a slap on the wrist. 1.00
00:08:04.000 But if he does this crap again, the craziest part is Don Lemon kissing a woman. 1.00
00:08:10.000 I mean, listen, that's how you know he was really passionate about it. 0.99
00:08:14.000 You know, and everybody wants me to bring up the fact he's married to a white guy.
00:08:17.000 Okay, whatever.
00:08:17.000 I got it.
00:08:18.000 Who cares?
00:08:18.000 Who cares?
00:08:19.000 Well, I mean, he's not married because you can't get well.
00:08:22.000 But sexual.
00:08:23.000 It's not real.
00:08:23.000 It's not real.
00:08:24.000 But anyway.
00:08:25.000 But we digress.
00:08:26.000 We digress.
00:08:27.000 But the point is, I actually think don't make Don Lemon a martyr.
00:08:31.000 He's not worth it.
00:08:32.000 He's not worth our time.
00:08:34.000 If he does it again, if he keeps doing this stuff, sure, fine.
00:08:34.000 Okay.
00:08:37.000 Throw the book at him.
00:08:38.000 But right now, let's move on.
00:08:39.000 We got bigger fish to fry here, folks.
00:08:41.000 Then the other story that's happening right now is we've got Jack Smith testifying before Congress.
00:08:49.000 Jim Jordan, by the way, I know there's some people that feel this way or that about Congressman Jim Jordan.
00:08:55.000 I think he's great.
00:08:56.000 You know, there's, yeah, fine.
00:08:59.000 Send us your emails, freedom at charliekirk.com.
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00:09:18.000 It was a cartoon image.
00:09:20.000 It really is.
00:09:21.000 It's something that a person on Blue Sky wants to believe happened.
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00:11:10.000 Now we got to get, we got to do this.
00:11:12.000 It's like housekeeping.
00:11:13.000 It's like family business.
00:11:14.000 We just got to get through this morass of like crazy lib slop that they're just making stuff up. 0.72
00:11:20.000 And I'm getting sick of it, to be honest, because the lies are so blatant and brazen that you just have to sort of work through them.
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00:11:34.000 Glad to have them back on and excited about that.
00:11:37.000 And so, but here's what we got to do.
00:11:39.000 We got to get to this five-year-old, you know, the Democrats, literally the Democrats, their handle on X is tweeting out in Minnesota, Minneapolis.
00:11:48.000 ICE arrested a five-year-old coming home from preschool and tried to use him as human bait.
00:11:54.000 His teacher describes him as a bright young student. 0.99
00:11:56.000 These monsters are sick. 0.98
00:11:59.000 Okay, we'll throw up the image. 0.99
00:12:00.000 And this is literally their tweet.
00:12:02.000 I don't know.
00:12:03.000 Do you guys have the image?
00:12:04.000 It's too good. 0.98
00:12:05.000 We have to, I mean, this is, you know, you got to sort of give them credit for just being shameless liars. 0.93
00:12:10.000 So this is the image.
00:12:13.000 And they've got, yeah, ICE detains five-year-old boy, three other students in Columbia Heights.
00:12:18.000 It's not true.
00:12:19.000 It's not what happened.
00:12:21.000 So we should lay out like what.
00:12:23.000 I'm going to read the statement.
00:12:24.000 We're going to read the statement.
00:12:25.000 So I literally called DHS this morning because it turns out everybody's freaking out about this.
00:12:31.000 This is all lib Twitter is talking about.
00:12:34.000 This is all what Blue Sky's talking about.
00:12:36.000 This is a huge story, right, Blake?
00:12:37.000 This is like this is their thing.
00:12:40.000 This is their cause du jour.
00:12:42.000 All right, well, please lay it out.
00:12:44.000 Well, so they're flipping out.
00:12:46.000 This is all, so partly we should mention this is all happening because ICE, everything they do, they're relentlessly being stalked and followed and scrutinized.
00:12:56.000 And so they are immediately spinning up these claims.
00:12:59.000 And so their claim is that the child, they made an arrest when a person drove into their driveway.
00:13:09.000 And you can see the little joints where they're being a little bit dishonest.
00:13:13.000 So for example, so they detained, apparently what happened is they tried to arrest the father of this five-year-old who then fled the scene.
00:13:19.000 And then they'll describe in even in the left's own telling, another adult begged to take custody of the child, but ICE refused.
00:13:28.000 Okay, another adult?
00:13:30.000 Is it the child's parent?
00:13:31.000 Would we know if it's the child's parent?
00:13:34.000 Like, all these things that are obvious questions you're supposed to ask if you're a law enforcement agent, but they're mad that ICE is not omniscient and omnipotent in their powers.
00:13:43.000 And so they have to follow police procedures.
00:13:45.000 Oh, there was a child in the vehicle.
00:13:47.000 And so we naturally immediately have ICE put out the statement, which is the child was abandoned.
00:13:53.000 We tried to make an arrest, and then the dad fled.
00:13:56.000 So they left one agent with the child to make sure that this child was not alone.
00:14:01.000 And then they turned this into the, this child was beat.
00:14:04.000 Well, it wasn't a bait for the arrest because the arrest they were making was a person in the car who then fled.
00:14:09.000 And those are the only two people who've been detained.
00:14:11.000 So I guess it wasn't bait.
00:14:12.000 I have a legal question for you, Blake.
00:14:14.000 I know you're not a lawyer, but you play one on TV.
00:14:16.000 The question, if a dad, say it's a single dad, he has a DUI and the cops pull him over.
00:14:25.000 Does that father get separated from the child?
00:14:28.000 You know, it actually does happen, doesn't it?
00:14:30.000 Or doesn't even need to be a DUI.
00:14:32.000 If they want you for a murder, if they want you for a robbery, if they want you for tax evasion.
00:14:37.000 Larceny.
00:14:38.000 Whatever.
00:14:39.000 This is a sad truth.
00:14:40.000 If you break the law, you are putting your children in danger and you should stop breaking the law.
00:14:46.000 It's pretty obvious in today's day and age that if you are here in the country illegally, you're breaking the law and there will be consequences for it.
00:14:54.000 Did you know that you could receive a free flight?
00:14:58.000 No, a free flight and $2,600 with the CBP home app.
00:15:04.000 If you just use the CBP home app, he wouldn't have been arrested.
00:15:08.000 His poor five-year-old kid, he wouldn't have abandoned him.
00:15:12.000 By the way, that's the big E on the eye chart here.
00:15:14.000 This peach of a father is the best father I've seen since, you know, Maryland dad.
00:15:21.000 This is not the type of, if you have an illegal alien that is going, is willing to abandon his son when federal law enforcement approaches him, first of all, he's a terrible dad.
00:15:33.000 Let's just get the biggie on the eye chart out of the way. 0.88
00:15:36.000 Terrible dad.
00:15:37.000 You don't abandon your kid.
00:15:39.000 Second of all, you're not going to want that quality of human being in this country as a second thought.
00:15:44.000 If that's what he's teaching his kid, that you just abandon people, you run away from your family.
00:15:48.000 And third of all, if you're in the country illegally, I'm sorry, you're putting your whole family in jeopardy. 1.00
00:15:54.000 So, yes, to your point, this DHS, I don't know if it was ICE or, yeah, I think it was an ICE officer, remained with the child because that's what police officers do.
00:16:02.000 They don't abandon children.
00:16:04.000 That's what federal law enforcement does. 0.86
00:16:06.000 Like, it's just, it's such an important thing that you can't concede the ground to them.
00:16:09.000 Like, the left wants you, they want to get you into this psychological state of mind where if like you have a child under the age of 10, you're immune from law enforcement because this child is sad and you feel sad when you see children.
00:16:22.000 And so, you shouldn't do things that you obviously should do.
00:16:25.000 Yeah, Charlie had a great tweet on this.
00:16:27.000 This is all the way back in 2018.
00:16:29.000 Instead of blaming the law enforcement agencies, ICE or Border Patrol, why not blame the parents for actually breaking the law?
00:16:35.000 Thinking face.
00:16:36.000 And he's exactly right.
00:16:37.000 One of the reasons you shouldn't do bad things, one of the reasons you shouldn't commit crimes, one of the reasons you shouldn't be a drug addict, one of the reasons you shouldn't be a loser, if you're a parent, or even if you're not, it will hurt the people around you who are dependent on you.
00:16:51.000 That is a reason you shouldn't do bad things.
00:16:54.000 And this dad chose to break the law.
00:16:57.000 He chose to remain here when it was very clear enforcement was happening, when there was a way he could have gotten free money to return to his home country.
00:17:06.000 For that matter, he would have never been separated from his kid if he had not fled from ICE.
00:17:10.000 He did all of those things.
00:17:12.000 And as a result, it wasn't great for his kid.
00:17:14.000 The same way it wouldn't be great for his kid if he did any other crime.
00:17:18.000 And we can't concede this completely fake framing to them that if there's kids, oh, they're magically immune from the law.
00:17:24.000 One of the best lines, MPR News, a local Minnesota news thing, they covered this.
00:17:29.000 And of course, they don't really get much more than a side statement from ICE.
00:17:33.000 It's entirely the framing of, oh, the schools are horrified.
00:17:37.000 And then they talk to their lawyer, this Mark Prokash, a lawyer representing the Ramos family.
00:17:42.000 He said he's not sure of the exact whereabouts, but they're probably in Texas.
00:17:46.000 And they have him go on.
00:17:47.000 He says it's cruelty.
00:17:49.000 It's evil.
00:17:50.000 It's all so bad.
00:17:51.000 And then at the end of the interview with him, they say, asked if the five-year-old's detainment was legal.
00:17:56.000 Prokash said, probably not.
00:17:58.000 That's what's going to make my job really difficult.
00:18:00.000 But just because something is legal doesn't mean it's moral.
00:18:03.000 Oh, so they didn't break the law at all.
00:18:05.000 It's entirely legal to detain children when you're arresting their parents for illegally being in the country.
00:18:10.000 And in fact, if you're going to deport them, as ICE has pointed out, they're going to get two options.
00:18:15.000 If that child is a citizen, they can be placed with someone that they trust, a trusted adult, or you can choose to have them deported with you if you would prefer to remain with them. 0.56
00:18:24.000 And you have to understand the subtext here, is they are going to claim that what they're really communicating here, and I want you to see the sleight of hand, is that they're basically saying that this guy was illegal, but he's not a criminal.
00:18:24.000 They get a choice.
00:18:36.000 No, you're guilty of being a criminal if you broke.
00:18:39.000 It's called breaking and entering.
00:18:40.000 You broke and entered into our country, and you're not welcome, okay? 1.00
00:18:43.000 So we have to keep the main thing, the main thing.
00:18:46.000 There is a baseline.
00:18:47.000 You're a criminal if you enter this country illegally, okay? 0.98
00:18:50.000 But even in Exodus 1249, this is all biblical, folks.
00:18:54.000 It says a sojourner, so a foreigner, is to abide the law of the land. 0.93
00:18:59.000 The same law applies to both the native born and the foreigner residing among you.
00:19:03.000 There's biblical precedents for this.
00:19:05.000 They are required to abide by the law of the land.
00:19:08.000 And so we just need to get back to basics.
00:19:10.000 I'm sorry this five-year-old got banned by his father.
00:19:13.000 Blame the father for that, not ICE.
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00:20:30.000 Kane, Citizen Free Press.
00:20:32.000 Welcome back to the show, my friend.
00:20:35.000 This will be your second time we've had you in recent times.
00:20:40.000 But I didn't even tell the studio to play your song.
00:20:43.000 Yeah, I always get a little bit more fired up when I hear that coming in.
00:20:48.000 It's funny, the origin of that, they started playing that, as you know, during a Cooors commercial for the NFL.
00:20:54.000 And you noticed it, Charlie noticed it, and I noticed it all just like, I was like, that sounds like Kane.
00:21:04.000 But it's King, right?
00:21:05.000 It's Kane.
00:21:06.000 It's definitely Kane, though.
00:21:07.000 It's close enough for radio.
00:21:08.000 Yeah, it's close enough for horseshoes and hand grenades, right?
00:21:11.000 And government work.
00:21:13.000 I think that's the other thing they say.
00:21:14.000 So, Kane, welcome back, my friend.
00:21:18.000 You know, we like to talk to you because, you know, if you're not checking out citizenfreepress.com, you're missing out.
00:21:25.000 Throw up the graphic there, guys.
00:21:26.000 I mean, this is the current stack.
00:21:29.000 We sent it in.
00:21:32.000 This is what Kane lives and breathes 24-7.
00:21:36.000 The guy doesn't sleep.
00:21:38.000 And even if he's not working on the stack, he is golfing, which I totally give you all the...
00:21:45.000 Charlie didn't like golf.
00:21:47.000 I don't like golf either.
00:21:48.000 Blake doesn't like golf.
00:21:49.000 I disagree.
00:21:50.000 I think you need to go touch grass.
00:21:52.000 And one of the great ways to touch grass, be surrounded by it.
00:21:54.000 Kind of the only way to touch grass here is go play some golf.
00:21:58.000 But Kane, I would be remiss if I did not say, congratulations to the Indiana Hoosiers for pulling off one of the truly all-time great college football stories.
00:22:10.000 It's miraculous.
00:22:12.000 It's insane.
00:22:13.000 It's unprecedented.
00:22:14.000 I give you the floor.
00:22:16.000 Bask in the glory of being national champions.
00:22:18.000 You know, you know, Blake rumor has it.
00:22:20.000 There was more drinking in Bloomington this week than during winter carnival in Hanover, New Hampshire.
00:22:29.000 I don't believe that.
00:22:30.000 I refuse to believe that.
00:22:31.000 There are a bunch of alkies up in Hanover. 1.00
00:22:34.000 But yeah, I was a little annoyed, Kane, I have to admit, because I didn't have a strong pull between the two teams, but I was slightly hoping that Miami would get a last-second touchdown, just so I could have said if Indiana had redistricted, they would have stopped that touchdown.
00:22:50.000 But they went and won anyway.
00:22:52.000 So I'll give it to him.
00:22:54.000 It's true.
00:22:54.000 Indiana is sort of on my list right now because, and frankly, they're on turning point actions.
00:22:59.000 We're going to be primaring all of these fools because they apparently rumor has it.
00:23:04.000 I'm not sure if it's been completely confirmed, but that they made a handshake deal with Maryland to not redistrict. 0.98
00:23:10.000 Maryland, of course, did an about face.
00:23:12.000 Now they're redistricting.
00:23:13.000 Virginia's gone complete Marxist.
00:23:15.000 They're redistricting.
00:23:17.000 So it looks like, once again, Kane, Republicans are the only ones trying to play by gentlemen's rules and we're getting steamrolled.
00:23:24.000 And, you know, there was this whole redistricting debate going on.
00:23:27.000 Everybody's, oh, Trump is trying to redistrict midterm.
00:23:29.000 It turns out the Democrats are the only ones with enough political will and ruthlessness to actually move forward with it.
00:23:36.000 What's your take?
00:23:38.000 Well, yeah, I was going to, before you said it, I was going to mention the Maryland thing because I just put it in the stack like 30 minutes ago.
00:23:44.000 Wesmore, the governor, is trying to get rid of the only Republican seat that in the in the Maryland congressional delegation.
00:23:54.000 I'm trying to, I think Maryland usually is about 60-40 in governors races.
00:24:00.000 So, I mean, if you're getting 40% Republican votes, it would be nice to have at least one Republican seat.
00:24:07.000 Yes, you know, that's brutal.
00:24:09.000 Going back to the game, that final drive, Blake, you know, that if Miami had scored, I completely thought they were.
00:24:16.000 I actually thought Signetti made a mistake in kicking that field goal because if you get a Miami was out of timeouts, you get a first down, that game's over.
00:24:25.000 There was a minute have to go.
00:24:27.000 And so I thought, you know, I always think negatively, and it has not hurt the Hoosiers at any point in the college football playoffs, but I thought for sure we were going to give up a touchdown.
00:24:38.000 So, so yeah, that would be brutal as hell that if that, you know, if we lost because our state representatives didn't have the whatever, they got their feelings hurt.
00:24:49.000 There were all kinds of reasons that the Indiana reps did not vote to redistrict.
00:24:55.000 You know, one last thing I'll throw on the redistricting.
00:24:57.000 I put a story up maybe a month ago that talked about how the five seats in Texas may not even end up being five seats, that it might be four seats because we're getting slightly lower numbers with Hispanics.
00:25:10.000 So, yeah, so Democrats, there's a track.
00:25:14.000 I guess one last thing, there's a tracker that I keep, I bring to the top near the stack that sort of shows what's going on in every single state.
00:25:22.000 And they still say that we may gain three if everything plays out correctly, but you guys are probably on top of it.
00:25:30.000 Hey, look.
00:25:31.000 Yeah.
00:25:32.000 Yeah, no, you're right, Kane.
00:25:33.000 It's just much closer than it should be.
00:25:35.000 You know, if we had a real census in this country that didn't count foreign illegals, which Trump tried to get done, he lost that battle.
00:25:43.000 I think we win that battle if we pick it today.
00:25:45.000 We should be redoing the 2020 census.
00:25:48.000 It was a botched census.
00:25:49.000 It was done properly and correctly.
00:25:51.000 COVID completely ruined it.
00:25:52.000 They used all these like privacy, you know, protocols to shield illegals. 0.87
00:25:58.000 And so they would be counted.
00:25:59.000 And it screwed up the whole algorithm.
00:26:01.000 Okay.
00:26:02.000 So if we redid the census, you would see 10 to 15 seats move to the Sunbelt, move to where people are moving.
00:26:08.000 Okay.
00:26:09.000 So there's a lot wrong with this.
00:26:11.000 I do not believe that we have been getting a fair shake in national elections with Congress.
00:26:17.000 We just haven't.
00:26:18.000 You know, President Trump had basically a landslide victory, won the popular vote, ran the table on the swing states, and we eke out this tiny little majority in Congress, in the House.
00:26:29.000 Something ain't right.
00:26:30.000 And so we've got to fight on this front, and we got to get the SAVE Act done.
00:26:34.000 But I'm being told there's 15 senators, Republican senators.
00:26:40.000 We're not even talking about Democrats right now, Ken, right now, Kane.
00:26:42.000 There's 15 Republican senators that won't get the hell out of the way.
00:26:46.000 And this is a big problem.
00:26:48.000 Kane, tell us what you know about this.
00:26:50.000 Okay, well, we'll talk about the SAVE Act.
00:26:52.000 That relates to the filibuster.
00:26:54.000 The other thing, you know, yes, I want to reiterate, or I want to, you know, confirm what you were saying, 10 to 15 seats if we can stop counting illegals in all states.
00:27:05.000 The numbers, you know, that gives us a much bigger majority right there.
00:27:08.000 And then also remember that I don't think it's happening until maybe it's happening this summer, but the Voting Rights Act, right?
00:27:16.000 That's going to be the other component of redistricting.
00:27:18.000 A lot of these congressional districts, most, well, not just in blue states, but in all states, a lot of them are going to be thrown out.
00:27:26.000 So they say that may be a plus 19 number, but it's not going to affect the 2026 midterms.
00:27:32.000 Now on to the SAVE Act.
00:27:33.000 As you know, to get something like the SAVE Act passed, you have to get it through the Senate.
00:27:37.000 You've got the filibuster problem in 60 votes, right?
00:27:40.000 So that was the whole debate during the government shutdown, whether we should finally throw out the filibuster, knowing that Democrats went the next time that they do take the Senate, that they're going to do this, that without whatever Manchin and Kirsten Cinema, they can get that vote through.
00:27:55.000 So everybody was sort of anticipating that the January shutdown would be our opportunity to get rid of the filibuster.
00:28:04.000 And what happened this week or last week was they, oh, it was early this week.
00:28:08.000 They reached a deal on the shutdown.
00:28:10.000 So there's not going to be a shutdown, which means there will not be a movement to get rid of the filibuster, which means this, I don't know how he gets a save act passed.
00:28:19.000 You tell me with, you know, over 60 votes.
00:28:22.000 Well, it doesn't seem like it doesn't seem.
00:28:24.000 I'm getting, by the way, I'm just getting breaking news here that Don Lemon has been charged.
00:28:29.000 I'm looking into it.
00:28:31.000 But he was not the first.
00:28:32.000 He was not the first.
00:28:34.000 I think they'll probably have a good case on him.
00:28:36.000 I mean, he was in it.
00:28:38.000 He was.
00:28:39.000 And he was cheering it on.
00:28:40.000 And he tried to hide behind his journalistic, okay, breaking Trump Justice Department charges journalist Don Lemon along with seven others over church protests aimed at ICE.
00:28:49.000 Let's see here, ICE agent.
00:28:52.000 Wow.
00:28:53.000 There it is.
00:28:54.000 Even if he's not convicted, guys, even if he's not convicted, the process is the punishment, the legal fees, the worrying at night about, you know, about the charges that you're facing and the potential jail terms.
00:29:06.000 So even if Lemon doesn't get, doesn't get convicted, whatever.
00:29:13.000 It's sort of looking, it's like the same thing with James Comey and Letitia James.
00:29:17.000 Sure, those indictments were thrown out, but hey, at least we put him through some sort of process punishment.
00:29:25.000 No, I totally agree.
00:29:26.000 Make him lawyer up, make him defend this.
00:29:28.000 It was a disgusting thing.
00:29:30.000 And, you know, a lot of people said it.
00:29:32.000 I thought it was an original thought when I tweeted it out.
00:29:34.000 I just said he would never have done this to Muslims.
00:29:38.000 He would have never gone a million years.
00:29:41.000 Never.
00:29:42.000 He took advantage of the kindness of Christians to know that he could do that in a safe way.
00:29:47.000 They weren't going to turn around and wrestle him to the floor, stab him, shoot him, whatever.
00:29:52.000 Not even that. 0.99
00:29:53.000 It's just he knew that if he did it to Muslims, he would get ripped to shreds for it.
00:29:58.000 If you had a big mob of people go in to intimidate a group of Muslims about something, a group of Jews in a synagogue about something, there would be consequences for it.
00:30:06.000 Much more rapid and much more total and with much more support from a Democratic government. 0.96
00:30:11.000 There is an entire permission and support structure in place to attack white men to attack Christians. 0.96
00:30:18.000 And it's important that we tear down that support structure, brick by brick, piece by piece, because what Don Lemon did to that church, city's church in Minneapolis, was disgusting. 0.78
00:30:29.000 And all of those people, there's seven other indictments, apparently, as well.
00:30:34.000 They all deserve to be charged so that this never happens again.
00:30:38.000 And if it does happen again, you come down even harder.
00:30:41.000 And you say, we warned you.
00:30:43.000 You should have known this happened the last time.
00:30:45.000 There will be consequences.
00:30:47.000 You know, Kane, we're kind of darting around here because there's a lot of news going on.
00:30:51.000 Yeah.
00:30:52.000 We call this the pulse of the base with Kane.
00:30:55.000 This is your segment title.
00:30:56.000 Pulse of the base.
00:30:58.000 Give us the pulse of the base. 0.55
00:30:59.000 There's a lot of black pillars, a lot of boomers, a lot of negativity, but there's so much good happening.
00:31:06.000 You know, are they down on Greenland? 0.86
00:31:08.000 Are they down on not enough arrest?
00:31:11.000 What's the pulse?
00:31:12.000 I can give you an, you know, look, let's never confuse the pulse of X and the pulse of social media for actually the pulse of the base.
00:31:22.000 You know, Twitter has more and more become an unreliable indicator.
00:31:27.000 I put up polls, two polls now, including the new one from the New York Times today.
00:31:32.000 Trump is doing fine with Republicans.
00:31:35.000 He had 89% approval in the New York Times poll with Republicans.
00:31:39.000 Now, we'd like to see that number at 95, but 89 is still really good.
00:31:43.000 The only area that there might be some danger is with independents, which, you know, we've highlighted.
00:31:48.000 That's how we won the seven swing states, is we got independent voters.
00:31:51.000 So, we could talk about that another time.
00:31:53.000 But as far as the base goes, they're relatively happy with Greenland.
00:31:56.000 They're a little confused.
00:31:58.000 You know, I think Trump, maybe early on, a week ago, could have benefited by explaining this to the people a little bit better about why we need, you know, why we need Greenland.
00:32:07.000 And I think his whole plan the whole time was to get the deal, the framework of a deal that he's talked about now.
00:32:12.000 I'm not sure.
00:32:13.000 I mean, I'm sure he would have loved to have the island, but at the same time, this is the deal that he wanted.
00:32:21.000 So, you know, look, the base hangs on.
00:32:24.000 The base looks through.
00:32:27.000 They're able to look past sort of, they don't pay attention to media anymore.
00:32:32.000 That's the one thing we know.
00:32:33.000 So, the base, the base is happy.
00:32:36.000 They're not thrilled with how Trump is being treated and portrayed, but he's not going to lose them.
00:32:40.000 And the fake civil war, that's, you know, I know I got 10 seconds.
00:32:43.000 I'll just say the civil war within the Republican Party is fake news.
00:32:48.000 And these people will turn out.
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00:34:01.000 Kane, the big question right now, obviously, is once we turned over into 2026, is the midterms.
00:34:07.000 And there is this lingering question.
00:34:08.000 Now, turning point action, we're going to be working in New Hampshire.
00:34:10.000 We're going to be working in Arizona, Nevada.
00:34:13.000 We're going to be working on congressional races that build towards 2028, right?
00:34:17.000 We have to pick our battles.
00:34:19.000 Tyler Boyer is going to be on the show talking about some of this.
00:34:21.000 We're hiring, we're staffing up ahead of the midterms, but we can't do it all.
00:34:26.000 And there's going to be a lot of races across the country that are going to be very hotly contested.
00:34:30.000 And President Trump's not going to be on the ballot.
00:34:33.000 So what do we have to do?
00:34:34.000 What's the vibe?
00:34:35.000 What's the energy?
00:34:37.000 So Trump and Susie Wiles have both said he's going to treat the midterms like a general election.
00:34:42.000 So that's obviously a really good sign.
00:34:44.000 He's going to do rallies.
00:34:46.000 It's still going to be hard.
00:34:47.000 I looked up 2018, which was his first midterms.
00:34:50.000 We lost 40 seats in the House.
00:34:54.000 So what's that number going to be this time?
00:34:56.000 I don't know.
00:34:57.000 I honestly don't think we're going to hold the House.
00:35:03.000 And then what is that going to lead to?
00:35:04.000 It's going to lead to impeachments in the House.
00:35:07.000 The Senate is virtually impossible to lose just based on the map.
00:35:13.000 It would take some big, some huge upsets.
00:35:17.000 So that's part of why I was talking about the filibuster and getting back to the SAVE Act.
00:35:22.000 For people who don't know, the SAVE Act is the Voting Reform Act, to require citizenship, to register to vote, to require voter ID nationwide, all these things.
00:35:35.000 And I think it actually eliminates mail-in ballots, which is an interesting thing because as you know, Andrew and Blake, Charlie sort of picked up that matchup, you guys.
00:35:44.000 That was one of the keys to success in Arizona and a few other states that we really pushed on the mail-in ballot.
00:35:50.000 Well, Kane, really quick here, yeah, it would require proof to be presented in person in most cases, which would effectively eliminate or at least severely restrict online voter registration, mail-in voter registration.
00:36:04.000 So many automatic voter registration systems like Motor Voter, when you get a driver's license, which we know a lot of illegals are doing in these states where they're giving illegals driver's licenses.
00:36:14.000 Voter registration drives, since you couldn't just fill out a form on the spot without showing documents to an official, right?
00:36:20.000 So, you know, by the way, turning point action, we did voter registration drives.
00:36:24.000 We follow the laws of the land.
00:36:25.000 We use the exact same laws that everybody else does.
00:36:28.000 But if they're going to restrict this, which is, I think, a good thing, then, you know, it's going to hamper some of these, these, especially the libs, man.
00:36:35.000 They get way more volunteers for this stuff because remember, they're not going to church.
00:36:38.000 They're not having families.
00:36:39.000 This is their church.
00:36:40.000 This is their church.
00:36:40.000 Their church is destroying America.
00:36:42.000 That's their cult.
00:36:44.000 So, yeah, to your point, please continue.
00:36:46.000 Well, I was going to say Blake knows all about same-day voter registration in New Hampshire.
00:36:52.000 No, they made a point of that.
00:36:53.000 They would do the whole spiel with the students at Dartmouth.
00:36:56.000 They would say, you can change your vote day of.
00:36:59.000 You don't need to vote in your home state.
00:37:00.000 They would explicitly say, oh, if you're from a state that's deep blue, most of them were a lot of people from Massachusetts, California, New York, switch your vote here, day of, vote in this race.
00:37:10.000 And I often thought, I once did the math, and if they'd built that college on the other side of the river in Vermont, we would have won that state in 2016.
00:37:19.000 We would have won Kelly Ayat's Senate race in 2016.
00:37:22.000 It makes a difference.
00:37:23.000 By the way, we may or may not have an upcoming event at your alma mater.
00:37:30.000 We were going to.
00:37:30.000 We were going to have that debate.
00:37:32.000 So that's one of the reasons we're going back.
00:37:34.000 So we'll just, you watch that space because it's key when we're talking about New Hampshire, which is a state that has more conservatives than, or Republicans than Democrats, but it's always that independent vote in the middle, right?
00:37:47.000 That's what's going to determine that state.
00:37:49.000 Yeah.
00:37:50.000 And to Blake's point, you know, they're always talk about Massachusetts University's busing students across the state line just on election day and doing same-day registration.
00:38:02.000 So it's a problem.
00:38:03.000 The thing is, how the heck do we get the SAVE Act passed with the filibuster?
00:38:07.000 And if you have to get rid of the filibuster, because you know Democrats are going to do it, not this term when they, because they aren't going to get the Senate in 2026, but they will eventually, and they do drop the filibuster.
00:38:19.000 Well, whatever.
00:38:20.000 There's just no motivation to get rid of the filibuster now.
00:38:24.000 And so I don't see how, again, the SAVE Act gets passed.
00:38:27.000 Another thing on midterms, you know, I always pay attention to the generic congressional stuff.
00:38:31.000 And in the New York Times poll that I put in the stack today, they've got the generic congressional at 4843, which 4843 Democrats.
00:38:40.000 And I know that's a negative five number for us, but there was also like the Atlas Intel generic congressional poll from about three weeks ago was 12 points, you know, plus 12 for Democrats.
00:38:53.000 So this plus five number from New York Times is actually not that bad.
00:38:56.000 And 4843 is, you know, it's whatever.
00:38:59.000 It's not insurmountable the way a 12-point is.
00:39:02.000 So I don't know.
00:39:03.000 I don't want to be completely pessimistic, but it's going to be a tough sled.
00:39:07.000 And we're going to need Trump to treat it like the general.
00:39:10.000 Well, you're absolutely right.
00:39:12.000 And I would just say if he's getting out there and you got to imagine Elon's going to be activated, everybody's motivated.
00:39:17.000 We know these guys are just going to bog everything down in investigations and all of this stuff.
00:39:22.000 I want you to throw up this graphic, though, here, just real quick.
00:39:25.000 Last thought.
00:39:26.000 Rasmussen reports is requiring photo ID to vote a reasonable measure to protect the integrity of elections.
00:39:34.000 All voters altogether, 73% say yes, which is huge.
00:39:40.000 So, you know, here's the issue: what I'm told, I've been back-channeling with some senators.
00:39:44.000 There's these 10 to 15 senators basically think it's constitutionally problematic for the federal government to weigh in on states the way they conduct their elections, right?
00:39:54.000 But the legal question then is: can they weigh in on federal elections that are conducted by the states?
00:40:00.000 So that's the key. 0.97
00:40:02.000 So that's the excuse they're throwing up, but it's pathetic. 0.92
00:40:05.000 Citizen Kane, Citizen Free Press, check out the stack. 0.88
00:40:08.000 I go there multiple times every day.
00:40:10.000 You should too.
00:40:11.000 God bless you, sir.
00:40:12.000 We'll talk to you soon.
00:40:13.000 Thanks to both of you.
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