The Charlie Kirk Show - February 13, 2025


The Neverending Lawfare


Episode Stats


Length

34 minutes

Words per minute

173.99138

Word count

6,052

Sentence count

564

Harmful content

Misogyny

11

sentences flagged

Hate speech

14

sentences flagged


Summary

Summaries generated with gmurro/bart-large-finetuned-filtered-spotify-podcast-summ .

Breitbart's own Alex Marlowe joins us to discuss the continued onslaught of judicial activism against President Trump and his efforts to get his policies and agenda overturned by the Supreme Court. Charlie and Alex discuss how the courts are being used as a tool by the left to further their agenda.

Transcript

Transcripts from "The Charlie Kirk Show" are sourced from the Knowledge Fight Interactive Search Tool. Explore them interactively here.
Misogyny classifications generated with MilaNLProc/bert-base-uncased-ear-misogyny .
Hate speech classifications generated with facebook/roberta-hate-speech-dynabench-r4-target .
00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody.
00:00:00.000 We dive deep into the lawfare that continues against President Trump.
00:00:05.000 It is not stopping.
00:00:06.000 It's a very, very important topic that we go through with the great Alex Marlowe.
00:00:11.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:00:14.000 Subscribe to our podcast and get involved with Turning Point USA and become a member today.
00:00:19.000 That is members.charliekirk.com.
00:00:22.000 That is members.charliekirk.com.
00:00:25.000 When you become a member...
00:00:27.000 You guys get exclusive benefits.
00:00:29.000 You can join the program every Friday.
00:00:31.000 We love having you.
00:00:32.000 That is members.charliekirk.com.
00:00:35.000 Members.charliekirk.com.
00:00:38.000 Buckle up, everybody.
00:00:39.000 Here we go.
00:00:40.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:42.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
00:00:44.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
00:00:47.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
00:00:51.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:00:52.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:00:53.000 His spirit, his love of this country.
00:00:55.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA. We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:10.000 That's why we are here.
00:01:13.000 Noble Gold Investments is the official gold sponsor of The Charlie Kirk Show, a company that specializes in gold IRAs and physical delivery of precious metals.
00:01:23.000 Learn how you can protect your wealth with Noble Gold Investments at noblegoldinvestments.com.
00:01:30.000 That is noblegoldinvestments.com.
00:01:32.000 It's where I buy all of my gold.
00:01:34.000 Go to noblegoldinvestments.com.
00:01:39.000 Joining us now is Alex Marlowe, editor-in-chief of Breitbart.com and host of The Alex Marlowe Show.
00:01:44.000 Alex, great to see you again, my friend.
00:01:46.000 Charlie, it's been too long.
00:01:47.000 Congrats on all the great success.
00:01:48.000 Always a pleasure to be on your terrific show.
00:01:50.000 Thank you.
00:01:51.000 So it's really interesting.
00:01:52.000 As Caroline Levitt's doing this press conference, it was a perfect segue. 1.00
00:01:55.000 It was all about lawfare and these judges.
00:01:59.000 It's very confusing to some people in our audience, understandably, because they say, wait a second, how can you tell me that a...
00:02:06.000 A federal judge in the northern Mariana Islands has the ability to veto a president.
00:02:12.000 Walk us through the facts of the case, and then we'll go deeper.
00:02:15.000 Yeah, and there's many cases, and this is going to be the new normal, because if you think about it, Charlie, look at how the left is operating right now.
00:02:22.000 They're completely lost.
00:02:23.000 It's the hey, hey, ho, ho, Elon Musk has got to go, is not going to fight what Trump has got going right now.
00:02:29.000 I mean, think about his Sunday, Charlie.
00:02:31.000 He's playing golf with Tiger Woods.
00:02:32.000 He's banning plastic straws.
00:02:34.000 He's shutting down the penny.
00:02:35.000 And then he's going to the Super Bowl.
00:02:37.000 He's getting cheered.
00:02:37.000 Taylor Swift's getting booed.
00:02:38.000 You can't stop that in a cultural level.
00:02:41.000 Legislatively, we've got the numbers.
00:02:42.000 We keep getting our confirmations through.
00:02:44.000 All they've got left.
00:02:45.000 All they've got left is the lawfare, and they've built this superstructure over decades.
00:02:49.000 A lot of these judges that are stopping him right now are appointed not just by Biden, not just by Obama, but dating back to Bill Clinton.
00:02:57.000 These judges are standing in his way, and they're going to continue to do that because of the way the system is in its nature.
00:03:03.000 Basically, what happens is that you can file a complaint, and then the complaint can go if you target a specific area where you know there's a good chance you're going to get a liberal judge.
00:03:12.000 It's different from region to region, but there are judges.
00:03:14.000 Sometimes you know when a judge is specifically there fielding these emergency orders.
00:03:19.000 If you claim something's an emergency and the judge is a Democrat donor, is a Democrat appointee, is someone who's an activist lawfare judge, they're going to have the ability to put a preliminary injunction or a temporary restraining order on a lot of Trump's agenda, And that's going to shut it down at least for a period of time, either for a set amount of time or for an amount of time where it can work its way through the court, eventually, hopefully get to a more conservative court and get overturned.
00:03:46.000 But this is a potent weapon and there's not a super easy solution to it.
00:03:50.000 So let's go through some of the details here.
00:03:53.000 What are the more egregious judicial interventions that we are seeing right now?
00:03:58.000 Thank you for asking.
00:03:59.000 I have a piece on this, which you were kind enough to tweet, which I appreciate, at Breitbart News.
00:04:02.000 And I've got seven of them, but there's been one or two since I put out this seven.
00:04:07.000 So, yeah, take this Judge Angel Kelly from the U.S. District Court of Massachusetts, nominated by Biden.
00:04:13.000 This is a person who is a DEI hire, a person who has admitted that she's basically been elevated because she's African American, she's Asian, and she uses DEI hiring when she does her hiring.
00:04:26.000 This is her whole background, and she's someone who Elizabeth Warren has described as someone who's made a personal mission to bring about change through her role on the bench.
00:04:36.000 And what she's done...
00:04:37.000 She's shut down Trump and Moss' effort to put a cap on overhead spending for the National Institute of Health. 0.86
00:04:45.000 This is stuff that's not going to funding any sort of research, anything that's actually important that might actually make us healthier potentially.
00:04:53.000 This is just pure waste.
00:04:55.000 This is just pure administrative abuse.
00:04:56.000 They're not even shutting it down.
00:04:58.000 They want to put a cap at 15% of the expenditures.
00:05:01.000 Max can go to this.
00:05:02.000 And she said no.
00:05:03.000 We're shutting it down.
00:05:04.000 And so this is just one example.
00:05:06.000 This is a person who is known for blocking an officer's First Amendment's rights to complain about the George Floyd Act on his personal Facebook.
00:05:15.000 That's her wiring, citing bogus Black Lives Matter talking points when she's done that. 1.00
00:05:19.000 One of many examples, another judge, Senior Judge Amy Berman Jackson from the U.S. District of Columbia.
00:05:26.000 This is a person who built her reputation, not just donating to Democrats, which she did, but an Obama appointee.
00:05:33.000 But she's known for jailing the J6 prisoners. 1.00
00:05:36.000 So she's... 0.98
00:05:37.000 Basically built the second half of her career on being one of the main attack dogs trying to lock up the J6 prisoners. 1.00
00:05:43.000 And what she's done in a clearly partisan thing is that she recently put a temporary restraining order on Trump's efforts to fire a person from the office of the special counsel that Biden appointed. 0.74
00:05:56.000 So Trump's trying to shut down a deep state person, fire them, routine stuff.
00:06:00.000 You think a president should be able to do this?
00:06:01.000 Not according to the great Amy Berman Jackson.
00:06:05.000 The list goes on and on.
00:06:07.000 Chief Judge John J. McConnell of the U.S. District Court of Rhode Island.
00:06:10.000 This is one that people have been in the news for a bit because Daily Callers, but on top of this guy.
00:06:15.000 He's blocking a spending freeze that Trump has.
00:06:18.000 So another thing where Trump can't stop spending, he can't fire people unless he wants to run into all it takes is one of these liberal judges.
00:06:27.000 This guy is a mega donor to Democrats, not a run-of-the-mill donor.
00:06:31.000 He built a huge war chest for himself in the private sector.
00:06:35.000 Then he goes into a...
00:06:36.000 And he's able to just do his left-wing work from the bench.
00:06:41.000 It's a catastrophe for the rule of law and for our own democracy.
00:06:45.000 People who care about democracy, Charlie, this is the biggest threat going on right now.
00:06:50.000 And I want to reiterate this point, and Alex, I think you'll appreciate this.
00:06:53.000 In Brazil and Israel to a lesser extent, they have a super judiciary that basically runs the country.
00:07:00.000 There is an elite class of entrenched...
00:07:02.000 Legal minds that have a veto over the will of the people.
00:07:06.000 We are not there yet, but based on this behavior, we are blindly barreling towards that.
00:07:14.000 Oh, you're 100% correct on this.
00:07:16.000 I was thinking about one.
00:07:17.000 I think this is one you highlighted on your ex-account.
00:07:20.000 This senior judge, Colleen Collar Caudilley, who openly mocked a Christian.
00:07:25.000 To their face, there's a dying person who had been sentenced by her to jail, 77 years old, for protesting at an abortion mill.
00:07:35.000 And she just mocked this family, saying, make every effort to stay alive as part of the tenets of your religion.
00:07:42.000 We have people who are overly mocking Christians on the bench, blocking Trump's agenda right now.
00:07:47.000 And this is the tip of the iceberg.
00:07:48.000 Those are half of the examples I highlight in my piece.
00:07:52.000 We're on the brink of something that is really...
00:07:54.000 The left one's talking about a constitutional crisis.
00:07:56.000 When judges are openly subverting the democratically elected president at this level and it's not going to stop, this is going to continue, then we are really at a level where the court is asserting itself above the other branches of government at this time.
00:08:11.000 This is a deeper point, but you think about it, we have a super legislative power.
00:08:15.000 They say you must do everything Congress says, even things that it doesn't says, it just implies.
00:08:19.000 And then we have a super judicial, and it is the shrinking and the vanishing of Article 2. The presidency doesn't have power of the bureaucracy, but judges in Congress does?
00:08:28.000 How does that work?
00:08:30.000 It's an amazing thing because you watch it and you think that we put all this culturally, we have all this time spent on the presidential election.
00:08:39.000 It's the greatest TV show on earth, is watching the presidential election, just the sport of it, the pure sport of politics.
00:08:46.000 And then Trump gets in there and he's trying to do stuff, like the exact stuff he promised he was going to do.
00:08:52.000 And these people who none of us have ever heard of, and I study this stuff religiously.
00:08:56.000 I hadn't heard of most of these names, Charlie.
00:08:57.000 A couple of these names I'd heard of.
00:08:58.000 Most of them I hadn't even heard of until the last couple of weeks.
00:09:00.000 And all of a sudden they're just standing athwart 70 plus million Americans in 30 states and saying, no, you don't get to have what you want.
00:09:08.000 It's so outrageous.
00:09:09.000 And the sad part is there's no real easy recourse to stop them.
00:09:13.000 So the how how do you see this settling?
00:09:18.000 Because, unfortunately, the only answer is time, right?
00:09:22.000 Because then it has to work its way up eventually to the Supreme Court.
00:09:26.000 In the current form or fashion, all it takes is one judge to be able to veto the activity of a president?
00:09:33.000 Yeah, that's exactly the situation we're in.
00:09:35.000 If you file the right complaint, the right area, then you can at least get temporary restraining orders and these preliminary injunctions that's going to slow down the agenda in a big way.
00:09:45.000 So here's what you got to do.
00:09:46.000 The first thing is Trump's flood the zone approach is correct.
00:09:50.000 Because even though from a news perspective, I wish we could dwell on some of the victories for a little longer.
00:09:55.000 Charlie, and I think you're probably in agreement on that.
00:09:57.000 It'd be fun to take more time to celebrate some of the great stuff that's happening.
00:10:00.000 But we got to move on to the next thing.
00:10:03.000 That's the right approach because they're just not, even though the left is very strategic, they've got this huge lawfare superstructure, make them work in order to block all this stuff.
00:10:12.000 So if they block a quarter of it, that's not great, but it's better than them blocking half.
00:10:17.000 It's better than them blocking, you know, 75% of a much smaller agenda.
00:10:20.000 So keep the agenda broad.
00:10:22.000 Keep going.
00:10:23.000 But we also have to win every single election.
00:10:25.000 This is why the work you do with attorney-prone action is so big.
00:10:28.000 People have to make sure that we're running up the score because the bigger our majorities are in the Congress and in the Senate, then there's more options that we have because we can start using the Constitution, the legislature, to be able to expand our rules and change some of these rules.
00:10:42.000 I was thinking about it the other day.
00:10:43.000 The Ninth Circuit's too big.
00:10:44.000 We've got to limit the Ninth Circuit.
00:10:45.000 The Eleventh Circuit's new.
00:10:46.000 It only came out in the 80s.
00:10:48.000 Let's do stuff like that.
00:10:49.000 Let's start thinking outside the box.
00:10:50.000 Let's start tapping guys like...
00:10:52.000 Senator Lee, who's really good on this stuff.
00:10:54.000 Let's pick his brain.
00:10:55.000 What do we got to do here to come outside the box stuff we never thought of to try to limit some of their power?
00:11:01.000 It's going to take years for some of it, but let's start thinking now and be prepared.
00:11:05.000 So just like Trump did with his executive orders at the start of his administration, the second we have the numbers, let's run headlong into it and then make them stop us.
00:11:12.000 By the way, circuit courts are a created idea of the Congress.
00:11:17.000 It is not in the Constitution.
00:11:18.000 I'm not saying it's unconstitutional.
00:11:19.000 I'm saying it's not in the Constitution.
00:11:21.000 You don't need circuit courts.
00:11:23.000 Only the U.S. Supreme Court was originally authored.
00:11:26.000 Congress has authority to get rid of these.
00:11:27.000 Oh, we don't need an 11th Circuit, rid of the 9th Circuit.
00:11:29.000 I mean, these judges are playing with fire— Alex, please plug your stuff so our audience...
00:11:35.000 Can follow you and support you.
00:11:36.000 Yeah, we're colleagues now.
00:11:38.000 Alex Marlow Show on Salem and wherever you get your podcasts, YouTube, Rumble, iTunes, Spotify.
00:11:42.000 And it's going incredibly well.
00:11:44.000 So if any of you are in my audience as well, thank you.
00:11:46.000 So it's going great and we're off to a great start.
00:11:48.000 And Charlie, I'd love to have a long sit down with you whenever you get the chance.
00:11:51.000 Alex, thanks so much.
00:11:52.000 Talk to you soon.
00:11:53.000 Thank you.
00:11:53.000 Thanks, Charlie.
00:11:56.000 Making America Great Again starts with making America healthy again.
00:12:00.000 Charlie Kirk here.
00:12:01.000 I lost 40 pounds with the PhD weight loss and nutrition program.
00:12:05.000 And two years later, I haven't gained a pound back.
00:12:07.000 I started the PhD weight loss program because I need to be healthy to keep up with my crazy schedule.
00:12:12.000 Most people start a weight loss program to get healthier.
00:12:15.000 So why is Big Pharma spending millions to convince you to use their weight loss injections that do just the opposite?
00:12:23.000 They have harmful side effects and lifelong dependency.
00:12:25.000 Take a natural approach that isn't connected to a big pharma bottom line.
00:12:30.000 PHD changes the way you think about food.
00:12:32.000 They custom design a plan that is simple and works with your schedule.
00:12:37.000 You'll learn to quiet cravings and finally release the unhealthy belly fat.
00:12:41.000 You won't be hungry and you'll never take medication.
00:12:44.000 Call 864-644-1900 to schedule your one-on-one consultation or visit myphdweightloss.com.
00:12:52.000 That is myphdweightloss.com.
00:12:54.000 864-644-1900.
00:12:58.000 Oh, they have a whole new song that they are singing.
00:13:03.000 The Democrats right now, they're trying to get their mojo back.
00:13:07.000 And it's not one, two, three, we're going to fight the bourgeoisie.
00:13:11.000 It's not that, oh, Charlie Kirk is a jerk.
00:13:14.000 No, they got a new one.
00:13:15.000 They are channeling the old soul songs.
00:13:21.000 The old slave hymns. 0.93
00:13:24.000 There's nothing more cringy than late menopausal white women screaming into microphones about Elon Musk. 1.00
00:13:36.000 This is the new song!
00:13:38.000 This is their new theme song.
00:13:39.000 There's no escaping it.
00:13:41.000 This is it.
00:13:43.000 Just like how the 90 Bulls had their song.
00:13:45.000 Boom! 0.99
00:13:46.000 Donald Trump has God Bless the USA and also YMCA. This is the Democrats' new theme song.
00:13:53.000 132. Oh, it gets better.
00:14:16.000 But what side are you on?
00:14:18.000 133. This female Pavarotti keeps going. 0.97
00:14:38.000 Play cut 134. They say in the capital city there are no neutrals found.
00:14:45.000 You're either with the union or a scabby musk bloodhound. 1.00
00:14:53.000 So I suppose this is a union organized thing by either AFSCAMI or SCIU. I think it is SCIU based on the imagery there.
00:15:05.000 No, this is not a parody.
00:15:06.000 This is a real gathering of government workers that are trying to organize against Doge.
00:15:12.000 So when you think of, okay, we want Department of Government Efficiency, who could possibly against it?
00:15:17.000 This is who is against it.
00:15:21.000 What exactly do these people do all day long?
00:15:24.000 They scream into a microphone against Elon Musk, singing old slave hymns. 0.85
00:15:30.000 Yes, they are comparing cutting government waste.
00:15:34.000 To slavery.
00:15:35.000 And oh, there's one more.
00:15:38.000 It just ends perfectly.
00:15:41.000 Right on key.
00:15:44.000 Play cut 135. It's white Whitney Houston.
00:16:09.000 That's what it is.
00:16:10.000 She's going right after.
00:16:12.000 Look, the Democrat Party is flailing right now.
00:16:15.000 They are flailing.
00:16:17.000 Everything about the Democrat Party is off-key, from their singing, from what they're talking about, from the essence of who they are.
00:16:22.000 I mean, this is the threat to democracy, Dylan Mulvaney insists.
00:16:28.000 Playcut 95. We are three weeks into the second Trump presidency.
00:16:32.000 Three weeks.
00:16:33.000 And tonight there are warnings that the U.S. is dangerously close to a constitutional crisis.
00:16:38.000 That is a constitutional crisis.
00:16:40.000 That is a crisis for our democracy.
00:16:43.000 We've got our toes right on the edge of a constitutional crisis here.
00:16:48.000 What we are witnessing is a constitutional crisis.
00:16:51.000 To defy court orders brings about a constitutional crisis.
00:16:55.000 We've moved from a constitutional crisis to a constitutional collapse.
00:17:02.000 These are the same guys that climate change is going to kill everybody.
00:17:05.000 You need every single possible shot during COVID. I mean, it is like every possible apocalyptic thing that they can engage.
00:17:12.000 The constitutional collapse.
00:17:14.000 Being a liberal is just so insanely uncool right now.
00:17:18.000 It's remarkable compared to 2008, where all the cool kids were Democrats and Obama people and then eventually Bernie people.
00:17:26.000 You just lived on the left.
00:17:27.000 Just think of what it means to be a Democrat now.
00:17:30.000 You're just a shrill hall monitor screaming at other people about democracy!
00:17:37.000 They have spent down their cultural bank account.
00:17:41.000 Their cultural cachet has been totally squandered.
00:17:45.000 But whose side are you on?
00:17:48.000 I'll tell you, I'm on the side of not that.
00:17:51.000 That's whose side.
00:17:52.000 Whatever their politics are, I'm on the opposite.
00:17:55.000 That's whose side I'm on.
00:17:59.000 With the stock market at record highs, are you confident your portfolio can weather the next big downturn?
00:18:04.000 Market corrections are quick and unforgiving, wiping out hard earned gains in an instant.
00:18:10.000 Smart investors know the key to financial security is diversification.
00:18:14.000 That's why Noble Gold Investments makes it easy for Americans to help hedge market volatility and diversify their investments with gold.
00:18:22.000 Since 2010, central banks have steadily increased their gold reserves, and in 2024, gold prices soared over 25%.
00:18:28.000 Gold is simple.
00:18:29.000 You buy it, you own it, you control it.
00:18:31.000 Over $2 billion in precious metal sales, Noble Gold Investments has helped thousands of investors diversify their portfolios with gold IRAs and physical gold.
00:18:40.000 And now, when you open a qualified account, Noble Gold will gift you 5-ounce silver America the Beautiful Coins as a thank you.
00:18:48.000 Don't wait for the next downturn to catch you off guard.
00:18:51.000 Visit NobleGoldInvestments.com today and see how easy it is to incorporate gold into your investment strategy.
00:18:57.000 That is NobleGoldInvestments.com.
00:19:03.000 I want to break down President Trump's Super Bowl interview.
00:19:06.000 This did not get as much zing as I think it deserved.
00:19:09.000 I don't think Fox aired it, actually, on the day of the Super Bowl.
00:19:13.000 I could be wrong.
00:19:14.000 I think this re-aired with Bret Baier on Fox News, which is too bad.
00:19:18.000 I wish they would have shown that to the 50 or 60 million people that were watching.
00:19:23.000 I think there's a lot here that is worthy of unpacking.
00:19:28.000 This is first President Trump on tariffs.
00:19:31.000 Understand this, that the way that economic models are configured is changing.
00:19:36.000 We are in an artificial intelligence economy.
00:19:39.000 Economies go through major revolutions.
00:19:42.000 The biggest change, of course, was an agrarian-based economy to an industrial-based economy.
00:19:49.000 The second major change was from an industrial-based economy to a digital-based economy.
00:20:00.000 To an artificial intelligence-based economy.
00:20:03.000 We are not there yet.
00:20:04.000 We are metamorphosizing in real time.
00:20:07.000 Whereas before we went from the farms to the factories, from the factories to our laptops, we're now going from our laptops to, you can call it robots, AI. But the way that we configure economic models has to be completely taken apart.
00:20:23.000 It's going to require some tariffs, external revenue.
00:20:26.000 It's going to require Doge.
00:20:27.000 It's going to require cuts.
00:20:28.000 This is why what Doge is doing is so critically important.
00:20:30.000 It's also sending a signal to the market every day.
00:20:34.000 Yes, we care about restraining federal spending.
00:20:37.000 Federal spending is the biggest driver of the debt and the deficit.
00:20:42.000 And, of course, inflation.
00:20:44.000 Federal spending is so wildly out of control, we need massive and significant cuts.
00:20:49.000 This is President Trump on tariffs with Brett Baier, PlayCut9.
00:20:52.000 You said the tariff is a beautiful word.
00:20:54.000 There are some signs in the markets, consumer confidence, that they're a little jittery.
00:20:59.000 So if all goes to plan, when do you think families will be able to feel prices going down, groceries, energy?
00:21:06.000 Or are you kind of saying to them, hang on, inflation may get worse until it gets better?
00:21:11.000 No, I think we're going to become a rich...
00:21:14.000 Look, we're not that rich right now.
00:21:15.000 We owe $36 trillion.
00:21:17.000 dollars, that's because we let all these nations take advantage of us. 0.96
00:21:20.000 Same thing like 200 billion with Canada.
00:21:23.000 We have 300.
00:21:24.000 We have a deficit with Mexico of 350 billion dollars.
00:21:27.000 I'm not going to do that.
00:21:28.000 I'm not going to let that happen.
00:21:30.000 Understand that no longer is our country going to be taken advantage of.
00:21:33.000 And look, President Trump has been in office for three weeks.
00:21:37.000 How do we get inflation down?
00:21:39.000 You restrict government spending.
00:21:41.000 You have to have major cuts.
00:21:43.000 You have to.
00:21:44.000 Number two, you have to have growth.
00:21:46.000 And we're going to see big growth.
00:21:47.000 We are going to see growth.
00:21:48.000 I can feel it.
00:21:49.000 I feel the investment.
00:21:50.000 I feel the psychological boost.
00:21:52.000 I feel the optimism.
00:21:52.000 I feel the energy.
00:21:54.000 I feel the spirit.
00:21:55.000 I feel the vitality.
00:21:57.000 Let's go to cut 38 around Doge.
00:22:00.000 Play cut 38. Early Saturday, a judge agreed with them to restrict Elon Musk and his government efficiency team, Doge, from accessing Treasury Department payment and data systems.
00:22:11.000 They said there was a risk of irreparable harm.
00:22:14.000 What do you make of that?
00:22:15.000 And does that slow you down on what you want to do?
00:22:17.000 I disagree with it 100%.
00:22:19.000 I think it's crazy.
00:22:20.000 And we have to solve the efficiency problem.
00:22:23.000 We have to solve the fraud, waste, abuse, all the things that have gone into the government.
00:22:28.000 You take a look at the USAID. And it's going to require major government reform.
00:22:50.000 Elon Musk from the Oval Office says this, play cut 94. The people voted for major government reform.
00:22:59.000 There should be no doubt about that.
00:23:00.000 That was on the campaign.
00:23:02.000 The president spoke about that at every rally.
00:23:05.000 The people voted for major government reform, and that's what people are going to get.
00:23:09.000 They're going to get what they voted for.
00:23:11.000 And a lot of times, people don't get what they voted for.
00:23:15.000 But in this presidency, they are going to get what they voted for.
00:23:18.000 And that's what democracy is all about.
00:23:20.000 They say he's a threat to democracy.
00:23:22.000 He's the fulfillment of our democratic norms and principles.
00:23:27.000 He is the manifestation that the people get what they want.
00:23:31.000 That what you vote for is what you get.
00:23:34.000 That there are no secret appearances.
00:23:37.000 President Trump adds, I see a lot of kickbacks, tremendous kickbacks on these contracts.
00:23:43.000 They're going after the nerve center of the regime deep state.
00:23:48.000 Play Cut 100. I see a lot of kickback here.
00:23:51.000 There's a lot of kickbacks.
00:23:51.000 A tremendous kickback.
00:23:53.000 Because nobody could be so stupid to give out some of these contracts.
00:23:55.000 So he has to get a kickback.
00:23:57.000 So that's what I got elected for.
00:24:01.000 That and borders and military and a lot of things.
00:24:04.000 But this is a big part of it.
00:24:06.000 And I hope that the court system is going to allow us to do what we have to do.
00:24:11.000 We got elected to, among other things, find all of this fraud, abuse.
00:24:17.000 Do you notice he harkens back?
00:24:19.000 We got elected to.
00:24:20.000 We got elected to.
00:24:21.000 Going back to the core structure of our government system.
00:24:28.000 We see it all the time when I visit college campuses.
00:24:31.000 Young adults demonize the concept of free markets and think government is the solution to every problem.
00:24:36.000 How do we change this?
00:24:37.000 By teaching our kids the foundational principles to counter what they are taught in public school.
00:24:42.000 Parents want to teach their children about liberty, limited government and free markets but often wonder, where do I start?
00:24:48.000 That's where Tuttle Twins can help. 1.00
00:24:50.000 They empower parents by providing quality resources that break down these ideas in a way children can understand.
00:24:56.000 Take their book.
00:24:58.000 The Tuttle Twins learn about the law.
00:25:00.000 In this story, the twins learn about their rights, that true laws protect people, and that we should help others, and that stealing is always wrong.
00:25:08.000 Children can only change the world for the better if they learn these important principles now.
00:25:13.000 Go to TuttleTwins.com slash Charlie today and purchase their 14-book children's series for your family.
00:25:20.000 They'll learn to think for themselves, to stand for liberty.
00:25:23.000 Go to TuttleTwins.com slash Charlie today.
00:25:26.000 TuttleTwins.com slash Charlie.
00:25:30.000 As a reminder, I will be going to University of South Florida a week from tomorrow.
00:25:34.000 We are back on campus.
00:25:36.000 I'm really excited for this one.
00:25:37.000 University of South Florida, February 20th in Tampa, Florida.
00:25:42.000 AmericanComebackTour.com.
00:25:43.000 That is AmericanComebackTour.com.
00:25:47.000 We're going to be going all across the country.
00:25:49.000 So on February 20th, University of South Florida.
00:25:51.000 February 27th, University of Florida.
00:25:52.000 February 28th, Florida State University.
00:25:54.000 April 8th, I know it's a big jump because there will be a lot to fit in the middle.
00:25:58.000 University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign.
00:26:01.000 April 22nd at Texas A&M. April 24th at University of Wyoming.
00:26:06.000 And more to be announced soon.
00:26:07.000 Joining us now is Will Hild, Executive Director of Consumers Research.
00:26:12.000 He also has the website ClevelandClinicExposed.com.
00:26:16.000 That is ClevelandClinicExposed.com.
00:26:19.000 Will, welcome to the program.
00:26:20.000 You have a very powerful Twitter post saying, Is Cleveland Clinic the wokest hospital in America?
00:26:26.000 Will, your thoughts?
00:26:27.000 Well, they very well will be.
00:26:29.000 They seem to have integrated wokeness across the entire spectrum of activities from integrating in DDI into everything they do.
00:26:38.000 They're currently being sued for discriminating against patients.
00:26:41.000 This isn't just discriminating against hiring and promotion, which is normally what we think about when we think about DDI. This is about discriminating in how they apply medicines and treatment to patients, which is about the most...
00:26:53.000 Worst thing you could possibly think of when you think of horror stories of DEI. They've also integrated net zero pledges across their entire operations.
00:27:02.000 This raises costs for consumers.
00:27:04.000 They've set some of the most aggressive net zero achievements I've ever seen.
00:27:09.000 There's no way to do that with modern technology, especially with hospitals.
00:27:12.000 Almost everything is plastic.
00:27:13.000 What that really means is that they're paying bribes, things called carbon credits, that they then have to pass along those fees to consumers.
00:27:20.000 And then lastly...
00:27:21.000 Perhaps the most disturbing thing is that they have been leading the way in providing so-called transgender care, gender affirmative care to children. 0.91
00:27:29.000 What that really means is general mutilation on kids under the age of 18. And they've really been charging on that.
00:27:35.000 And even after the passage of the SAFE Act in Ohio, where that's supposed to be banned, they've continued to consult with children around their gender issues or their gender dysphoria.
00:27:46.000 So it seems that they are still continuing to quietly push.
00:27:52.000 Look, the hospital cartels generally are one of the greatest undiagnosed problems in the country.
00:27:59.000 So help me understand this.
00:28:00.000 So the Cleveland Clinic, why are they so interested in the trans propaganda, performing child sex changes, prioritizing race-based care?
00:28:10.000 What is it?
00:28:10.000 Is it an ideological issue?
00:28:12.000 Please help me understand.
00:28:14.000 That's a great question, and I wish I knew the answer to that.
00:28:17.000 I have my suspicions, after what we've seen out of the Department of Government Efficiency, that a lot of this might just be straight up being paid for by the federal government, incentivized by funding from HHS. Radicals within a lot of these government agencies have been pushing this stuff.
00:28:31.000 But that doesn't let Cleveland Clinic off the hook.
00:28:33.000 Their director of DEI has said that they integrate DEI into literally every single thing that they do.
00:28:40.000 So that's not just, again, hiring promotion.
00:28:42.000 That's in how they treat patients based on their skin color.
00:28:45.000 And that includes pushing transgender propaganda on children.
00:28:49.000 So it's sort of a chicken-of-the-egg problem.
00:28:51.000 It probably came partially because it's being incentivized by the federal government.
00:28:54.000 But then Cleveland Clinic has become taken over by true believers of this radical, far-left, destructive ideology.
00:29:01.000 How much money do they make off of the transing of kids? 1.00
00:29:04.000 Well, it's hard to calculate without seeing their books, but it's got to be in the millions of dollars.
00:29:09.000 The number of children who these operations are not cheap.
00:29:12.000 These hormones are not cheap.
00:29:13.000 That's what a lot of people don't realize is that this stuff, once you start it, you can basically never come off of it.
00:29:18.000 So Big Pharma has a customer for life when they trans a child under the age of 18. These children can basically never come off of it. 1.00
00:29:25.000 We've heard of kids, obviously, who detangent us, and it's a very painful process, and there's everlasting harms that you can't undo.
00:29:33.000 But from the hospital's perspective and from big pharma's perspective, it's a very lucrative venture.
00:29:37.000 What can we possibly do from a federal government or a regulatory standpoint to go after these childhood butcher clinics such as the Cleveland Clinic? 0.94
00:29:47.000 That's a fantastic question.
00:29:49.000 I was so excited to see President Trump's executive order demanding that every agency look for at least nine corporations or nonprofits to look into who are violating people's civil rights around DEI. I can think of no better candidate for HHS to open an investigation than the Cleveland Clinic.
00:30:06.000 That said, I would also ask that the state government, Governor DeWine and the legislature, really look closely at the Cleveland Clinic and everything it's doing to continue to push this radical transgender ideology on children and harm them, and also to violate people's civil rights, not just through, again, hiring a promotion, but also literally changing where you rank someone hiring a promotion, but also literally changing where you rank someone in treatment for illness, strokes specifically, based on their skin So, Will, in your experience, what do these hospitals actually fear? 0.91
00:30:33.000 Because they're acting with such brazen attitude as if they don't care.
00:30:39.000 What the law says and just such blatant disregard for general morality.
00:30:45.000 Yeah, I'm so glad you asked that question because our movement tends to have this mentality that we go to court and we get a judicial ruling and that precedent that sides with us is the win.
00:30:55.000 In this case, it's very clear.
00:30:57.000 The pain must be the precedent.
00:30:59.000 We need to sue these organizations.
00:31:00.000 They need to lose federal funding until they comply.
00:31:03.000 And they need to be sued when they discriminate against people, not just patients, but also their employees.
00:31:07.000 There has to be a price to this kind of wanton disregard for the law, both at the state and the federal level.
00:31:14.000 At the end of the day, the only thing that's going to make them change is cutting off funding, losing government grants, and then being sued for the way they've violated the civil rights of both their patients and their employees.
00:31:23.000 Will, how can people learn more?
00:31:25.000 And please share your website.
00:31:27.000 Certainly.
00:31:27.000 Well, they can follow us at consumersfirst on X or me with at Will Hild, or they can visit us at consumersresearch.org.
00:31:35.000 I will also just say, to the extent you have listeners who are current or former employees at Cleveland Clinic, please go to our website.
00:31:41.000 There's a place where you can share your story.
00:31:44.000 We, I'm sure, are only looking at the tip of the iceberg.
00:31:46.000 We would love to hear from people who have maybe seen inside what's going on there and could fill in even more some of these questions we have.
00:31:52.000 Thank you so much, Will.
00:31:53.000 Appreciate it.
00:31:53.000 Thank you.
00:31:54.000 Thanks for having me.
00:31:55.000 Email me, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:31:57.000 The meltdown over Doge is really amazing to see.
00:32:02.000 Right now there's an entire hearing around the Department of Government Efficiency.
00:32:07.000 And understand that what Elon is doing, as well within the confines of the U.S. Constitution, they're going to sue every possible way they can.
00:32:15.000 But there have been presidential advisors that have literally lived in the White House, Harry Hopkins under FDR, under World War I and World War II, the industrial baron.
00:32:25.000 of Bernard Baruch.
00:32:27.000 Here is some breaking news as well.
00:32:29.000 President Trump has just posted on Truth Social.
00:32:32.000 I just spoke to Zelensky of Ukraine.
00:32:34.000 The conversation went very well.
00:32:36.000 He liked President Putin.
00:32:37.000 He, like President Putin, wants to make peace.
00:32:39.000 We discussed a variety of topics having to do with the war, but mostly the meeting that is being set up in Munich, where Vice President J.D. Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio will lead the delegation.
00:32:52.000 I'm hopeful that the results of the meeting will be positive.
00:32:55.000 It is a time to stop this ridiculous war where there has been massive and totally unnecessary death and destruction.
00:33:02.000 God bless the people of Russia and Ukraine.
00:33:07.000 And as I've mentioned a couple times, we have the Mark Fogle situation.
00:33:10.000 Thank you.
00:33:11.000 Thank you.
00:33:12.000 Just incredible.
00:33:13.000 We can actually play some tape there of President Trump getting Mark Fogel.
00:33:18.000 From home.
00:33:18.000 I think we have some B-roll.
00:33:19.000 This is Mark Fogle being released.
00:33:22.000 Let's play Cut 96. What were the terms of this deal, Mr. President?
00:33:26.000 Very fair.
00:33:27.000 Very, very fair.
00:33:28.000 Very reasonable.
00:33:29.000 Not like deals you've seen over the years.
00:33:31.000 They were very fair.
00:33:33.000 And I think that's going to lead.
00:33:35.000 And somebody else is being released tomorrow that you will know of.
00:33:39.000 And now Cut 99. This is what happens when you have a strong president.
00:33:43.000 And that's what we're seeing.
00:33:44.000 And look, any time an American comes home, we should be excited about it. 0.89
00:33:48.000 This is a case that languished under the Biden administration.
00:33:51.000 They really didn't give it priority.
00:33:53.000 I met with the family.
00:33:55.000 I believe the mother got to meet President Trump at that now infamous rally at Butler right on the same day the president was almost killed.
00:34:04.000 And so tonight is really a happy occasion.
00:34:07.000 Should be for all Americans, but certainly for Mr. Fogel and his family.
00:34:10.000 He's bringing Americans home. 1.00
00:34:12.000 It really makes you wonder, what was Joe Biden doing and his entire team doing these last couple of years?
00:34:17.000 This news flow is incredible, by the way.
00:34:19.000 That's why you have to subscribe to the Charlie Kirk Show podcast.
00:34:21.000 That's why you have to stay involved, watch us every day, download the Real America's Voice app.
00:34:25.000 We are the air traffic control of all the different news.
00:34:29.000 You've got Trump on the phone with Putin, Trump on the phone with Ukraine.
00:34:32.000 We've got peace coming in the Middle East.
00:34:33.000 We've got peace coming between Russia and Ukraine. 0.81
00:34:36.000 We have secretaries being confirmed.
00:34:38.000 We are the tip of the spear here on the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:34:40.000 We'll synthesize all of it.
00:34:42.000 So you guys get what you need to hear.
00:34:43.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:34:45.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.