The Charlie Kirk Show - January 08, 2024


The Next J6 Witch Hunt


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On this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, Bernie Moreno joins the show to talk about his campaign for the U.S. Senate seat in Ohio, and why he's running for re-election. He also talks about the ongoing debate over gender reassignment surgery and hormone replacement therapy.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, fan of the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:00:01.000 Bernie Moreno joins the program.
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00:00:45.000 Here we go.
00:00:46.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:47.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
00:00:49.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
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00:00:56.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:00:57.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:00:58.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created.
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00:01:44.000 I had several people at AmericaFest and in the weeks following parents that came up to me and they would start whispering.
00:01:53.000 They'd say, Charlie, my son or my daughter or my very close friend that I grew up with is taking testosterone, it's taking estrogen.
00:02:01.000 What do I do?
00:02:02.000 And this is so widespread.
00:02:05.000 Whatever numbers they're feeding to us, they are downplaying how many kids are chemically castrating themselves.
00:02:13.000 And not just kids, but people that still might be in where they couldn't order a beer.
00:02:18.000 This is also happening.
00:02:19.000 It's not talked about enough.
00:02:21.000 19 and 20 year olds, technically adults, but they can't even order a beer at a local bar and they can take life-altering hormone or testosterone replacement therapy.
00:02:36.000 And anecdotally, just to be clear, you don't hear about this so much in one setting without it being very, very widespread.
00:02:43.000 And I write about these things when I can start to pick patterns.
00:02:47.000 When the fifth or sixth parent comes up to you and says the exact same thing, you know you have a major problem.
00:02:53.000 Well, in Ohio, this is a very confusing story because Governor DeWine vetoed a bill and then he signed an executive order.
00:02:58.000 He's all over the place.
00:02:59.000 I'm still trying to figure out exactly what this ends up at, but to help us walk through this and also give an update on his very important Senate race is Bernie Moreno, BernieMoreno.com.
00:03:09.000 We've endorsed Bernie Moreno for the Ohio Senate race, and he is doing a great, great job.
00:03:15.000 Bernie, welcome to the program.
00:03:17.000 What is going on here with the gender replacement or the gender affirming care Governor DeWine?
00:03:27.000 Give us the update.
00:03:29.000 So there was a bill that passed pretty overwhelmingly in the state house that said two basically simple things, Charlie, which honestly, I don't understand how there's not uniform consensus around.
00:03:42.000 Number one, biological men should not play in women's sports. 1.00
00:03:46.000 Not complicated, easy one.
00:03:48.000 The second one is we cannot Provide gender-affirming gender mutilation surgeries on children or give them experimental hormones, puberty blockers, et cetera.
00:04:03.000 The governor vetoed that.
00:04:05.000 Extraordinarily disappointing.
00:04:07.000 He then put out an executive order that prohibits the surgeries, but still allows hormone treatments, still allows men to play in women's sports.
00:04:16.000 I'm hopeful that this week the legislature will override that veto and we can put an end to the madness here in Ohio and protect children and protect women's sports.
00:04:26.000 Yeah, amen.
00:04:26.000 This is why you're running for the Senate and why I'm behind you, Bernie.
00:04:29.000 And so, just really quick, everybody, if you live in Ohio, please contact your state senator or state rep, right, Bernie?
00:04:35.000 I think this would really matter.
00:04:36.000 We need to get the citizens of Ohio.
00:04:38.000 And by the way, I love Ohio.
00:04:40.000 It's one of my favorite states.
00:04:41.000 The values of Ohio are like really mainstream, Midwestern, common sense values.
00:04:49.000 They're not radical whatsoever.
00:04:51.000 Bernie, it would be smart if the grassroots of Ohio contacted their state reps, correct?
00:04:56.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:04:57.000 I'm pretty confident it's going to happen, but obviously they need to hear it because I think what this executive order does is it confuses people and are thinking, oh, well, the governor changed his mind.
00:05:06.000 Again, still allows biological men to play in women's sports. 0.56
00:05:10.000 It still allows these hormones, these puberty blockers.
00:05:13.000 We don't even know what that will do to people, to kids long term.
00:05:18.000 That's insanity.
00:05:18.000 What two consenting adults or one consenting adult wants to do, that's up to them.
00:05:24.000 But, you know, Charlie, let me ask you a question.
00:05:26.000 If you and I met over a decade ago, imagine if when you and I first met, if I said to you, girls and boys should be chemically or physically castrated, what would you have said to me 10 years ago?
00:05:37.000 Yeah, I mean, I would have said, what kind of medieval witch doctor is trying to go after children?
00:05:42.000 And now this is considered to be healthcare.
00:05:44.000 How did we get here?
00:05:46.000 It's a result of the corporate media weakness among Republicans.
00:05:51.000 Because again, 10 years ago, you would have looked at me and said, you know, my God, why are you even bringing that up?
00:05:55.000 It's insane.
00:05:56.000 But here we are seemingly losing the yard argument because Republicans have not been unequivocally strong on this.
00:06:01.000 They haven't fought back.
00:06:03.000 They're afraid of the media, calling them homophobes or transphobes.
00:06:07.000 It has nothing to do with any of that.
00:06:10.000 We've had broad consensus in this country for as long as that has been alive that we protect children.
00:06:17.000 Let's play Cut 23 as a segue here.
00:06:19.000 Let's play CUT 23.
00:06:20.000 Everybody, my name is Chris Peltier.
00:06:22.000 I'm a general pediatrician at Pediatric Associates of Mount Carmel, and it is my pleasure to welcome you and serve as your moderator this morning for our Cincinnati Children's Coffee with colleagues on the care of transgender children.
00:06:36.000 And we're going to review the community support tool, going to talk about behavioral care, creating a safe environment for your LGBTQ patients, and then also touching on some spiritual resources for your transgender patients.
00:06:51.000 We're going to have the second part of this conversation where our panel is going to come back and really give you strategies on how to have some of those difficult conversations with parents and families and really how to help families that may be struggling with their child's journey on this course.
00:07:11.000 So, Bernie, you had a great tweet about this.
00:07:13.000 This is why you running for the Senate is so important.
00:07:15.000 And it's disgusting that mutilating children has become a profit center.
00:07:18.000 There are people that will get rich and get richer the more kids that chop off their parts.
00:07:26.000 And I want to dive into this is we need to talk about the parental red flags that caregivers have to look for.
00:07:32.000 Play Cut 24.
00:07:32.000 Just listen to this.
00:07:34.000 For us, once a child says I'm transgender, the work begins for you of trying to help the family understand and get them into our care so that we can help.
00:07:44.000 We do know that gender dysphoria is real and it can have negative health outcomes.
00:07:51.000 So the first thing I want to go through on the gender support tool or the community support tool is history and physical exam red flags, things that we absolutely have to look for.
00:08:01.000 So when we're doing the history, things that we look for include the caregiver being dismissive, you know, oh, my kid says they're a girl and, you know, and we just don't think that's real.
00:08:13.000 And, you know, we're trying to shut that down.
00:08:17.000 If the caregiver's threatening the patient, I've had caregivers threaten the patient in the middle of clinic.
00:08:23.000 So what was that was where they talk about the red flags that caregivers need to look for with parents.
00:08:29.000 So in closing here, Bernie, just give us a final thought on the profit centers for medical mutilation and then give us an update from the campaign trail.
00:08:36.000 I know things are going really, really well in Ohio.
00:08:38.000 No, absolutely.
00:08:39.000 Thank you, Charlie, for having me.
00:08:40.000 The reality is it's become big business for hospitals.
00:08:43.000 It shouldn't be.
00:08:44.000 Again, we need to protect children, make sure that we keep children safe.
00:08:49.000 The campaign's going really well.
00:08:50.000 We got President Trump's endorsement, your endorsement, JD Vance, Jim Jordan.
00:08:55.000 Four out of four counties have endorsed.
00:08:57.000 We're leading a fundraising.
00:08:59.000 So we think that this race is in really good shape. 0.99
00:09:01.000 It's going to take a lot to beat Sherrod Brown.
00:09:03.000 So if your viewers can help, go on BernieMarino.com.
00:09:06.000 Any contribution or sign up for volunteers for your people in Ohio would be amazing.
00:09:11.000 Look, Donald Trump is going to win Ohio by 8 to 12 points, and he's going to have some amazing tales on that victory.
00:09:18.000 And I think we have an opportunity to take out Sherrod Brown.
00:09:21.000 There are some MAGA Brown voters out there, but are there eight points, 10 points?
00:09:27.000 I don't think so, Bernie.
00:09:28.000 I think you could do really, really well.
00:09:30.000 You share the president's vision.
00:09:31.000 You're going to win this primary.
00:09:33.000 I'm going to try my best to come out to the Buckeye State this spring if I can.
00:09:37.000 The schedule is really, really crazy, but I think we have an opportunity to take out Sherrod Brown.
00:09:41.000 Sherrod Brown is like John Tester, where they talk a good game on an election cycle.
00:09:46.000 They have a lot of Democrats who think that, oh, I like this guy.
00:09:49.000 And they vote like AOC and they vote like Chuck Schumer.
00:09:52.000 So Bernie, we're behind you 100%.
00:09:54.000 Keep up the great work.
00:09:55.000 Thanks so much.
00:09:56.000 Thank you so much.
00:09:57.000 Email us freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:09:59.000 This could be a real big one, everybody.
00:10:00.000 This is one where Donald Trump's going to run up the score in Ohio.
00:10:03.000 He's going to run up the score in Ohio.
00:10:05.000 And we might be able to sneak out a Senate race there.
00:10:08.000 Huge. 0.72
00:10:09.000 Sneak out a Senate race.
00:10:11.000 So keep your eye on Ohio.
00:10:12.000 Keep your eye on Montana.
00:10:13.000 By the way, West Virginia is basically done.
00:10:15.000 That's a pickup.
00:10:16.000 So we're starting from 50-50.
00:10:18.000 One of the advantages we have is we have an opportunity to take back the Senate.
00:10:23.000 We really do.
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00:11:45.000 The entire racket of this trans care thing is centered on a couple things.
00:11:50.000 Number one is this idea that you can transition.
00:11:54.000 I think we have to stop using that language.
00:11:55.000 You can't transition. 0.97
00:11:57.000 You can't.
00:11:58.000 You can mutilate yourself.
00:11:59.000 You can take drugs.
00:12:00.000 You could pretend to be something that you're not.
00:12:02.000 Transition, transitioning is impossible. 0.95
00:12:05.000 You can make yourself look closer to something, but it does not change your basic biological makeup.
00:12:12.000 It does not change your chromosomes.
00:12:14.000 It does not change your DNA.
00:12:15.000 It does not change how your brain is wired.
00:12:18.000 One of the arguments that the trans zealots will make is, but I look like the thing and I tricked you into thinking I'm something I'm not.
00:12:24.000 That means nothing.
00:12:26.000 You can go to a costume shop and at the end of the day, it's still a costume.
00:12:30.000 You can go to a professional Hollywood makeup artist and you could look like something that you aren't.
00:12:36.000 And we use this example.
00:12:37.000 We'll say it again.
00:12:37.000 If I go to a professional Hollywood Pirates of the Caribbean, Star Wars, 10 out of 10, they spend all this money and they make me look black.
00:12:46.000 Does that make me black?
00:12:48.000 Of course not.
00:12:49.000 Just because you look like the thing doesn't mean you become the thing.
00:12:52.000 And that's the first thing that we need to zero in on: it's butchery under the guise of compassion.
00:12:59.000 These drugs are not to be toyed with.
00:13:02.000 You are dealing with hormone levels, injecting testosterone, injecting estrogen in the false promise that it's going to solve a mental problem.
00:13:18.000 Now, more and more data is finally coming out on this: that they target kids with autism.
00:13:25.000 Kids with autism are far higher at risk of being targeted by the pharmaceutical trans-industrial complex.
00:13:34.000 Why that is?
00:13:35.000 There's plenty of reasons to believe.
00:13:37.000 I mean, autistic kids might be more socially isolated.
00:13:41.000 They look at things in terms of black and white, very little nuance, very little gray area.
00:13:46.000 They're linking autism now with gender dysphoria.
00:13:50.000 In fact, they don't even call it gender dysphoria anymore.
00:13:52.000 So we must be clear. 0.50
00:13:54.000 And I asked Chloe Cole this when she came on the show. 0.56
00:13:56.000 She's amazing.
00:13:57.000 I said, is being trans even a thing? 1.00
00:14:01.000 And she said, no.
00:14:02.000 Now, I know that sounds like a radical thing to say, but not really.
00:14:08.000 Do we acknowledge that you become the thing you think you are even though reality dictates otherwise?
00:14:15.000 No. 1.00
00:14:16.000 You have a mental problem. 1.00
00:14:17.000 Let's try and solve that. 0.99
00:14:18.000 We don't solve it through testosterone replacement therapy.
00:14:23.000 The new term is gender incongruence.
00:14:27.000 This was basically unheard of 30 years ago.
00:14:29.000 We're supposed to pretend it's normal.
00:14:31.000 It's not.
00:14:32.000 And yes, there is a role.
00:14:34.000 It's not the only role for lawmakers to come in and say this is illegal.
00:14:38.000 Now, one of the weak spots in our movement here, and we have to be honest about it, is parents who co-sponsor the butchery of their kids because we're big into parents' rights and we should be big into parents' rights.
00:14:53.000 So how should we think about a parent who says, I want my 15-year-old to take testosterone and it's a girl, which, by the way, will stop puberty, might delay it, will definitely delay it, could stop it, and could prevent them from potentially having kids in the future.
00:15:12.000 We do not even know all of the ramifications.
00:15:16.000 And the issue is this: big pharma and the psychological industrial complex, all of them together, they emotionally blackmail these parents.
00:15:26.000 And they say this time, it's almost in their modus operandi.
00:15:31.000 It's in their instruction manual.
00:15:33.000 And they'll look into a parent's eyes and they'd say, if you have a daughter, well, it's better for you to have an alive son than a dead daughter.
00:15:41.000 And they say it over and over again.
00:15:42.000 And the parents' stomach shrinks.
00:15:45.000 They say, well, okay, just bring in the testosterone.
00:15:48.000 Bring in the hormone replacement.
00:15:50.000 And factually, it's not true.
00:15:52.000 Factually, your kid has an underlying health issue, a mental health issue, a brain issue that should be addressed and not addressed through a pharmacological physical intervention.
00:16:02.000 I'm going to make a prediction right now, and this is based completely on anecdotal evidence, and I'll either be proven right or proven wrong, but I believe, of course, I'm right.
00:16:11.000 We are vastly undercounting the amount of kids and early adults, 18, 19, 20-year-olds, that are playing games with their hormones.
00:16:22.000 We are vastly undercounting it.
00:16:24.000 We're told that this is some sort of fringe thing.
00:16:26.000 I think it is in the hundreds of thousands, if not the millions.
00:16:30.000 And we will find out if I'm right or wrong eventually.
00:16:32.000 They can only cover this up so much.
00:16:33.000 They want to try to keep this.
00:16:34.000 Oh, you know, it's on the fringe.
00:16:36.000 It's not a big deal.
00:16:37.000 It's a huge deal.
00:16:40.000 And it is irreversible damage that is being done.
00:16:44.000 And if you go and you start doing this hormone replacement three for 18 months, for 24 months, you may never be able to retreat back to how God made you.
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00:18:22.000 Julie Kelly joins us. 0.99
00:18:23.000 I want to play cut six as a setup here. 1.00
00:18:25.000 Let's play cut six.
00:18:26.000 An important note when it comes to our prosecutions about those who remained outside the building.
00:18:32.000 We have used our prosecutorial discretion to primarily focus on those who entered the building or those who engaged in violent or corrupt conduct on capital grounds.
00:18:43.000 But if a person knowingly entered the restricted area without authorization, they had already committed a federal crime.
00:18:51.000 Make no mistake, thousands of people occupied an area that they were not authorized to be present in in the first place.
00:18:59.000 Okay, Julie Kelly joins us.
00:19:00.000 Julie, welcome to the program.
00:19:02.000 So let me translate what I hear here.
00:19:05.000 I hear that we're going into an election year, 2024, and that the people who entered the quote-unquote restricted area, by the way, is a massive, almost one mile square mile all the way there.
00:19:16.000 These are your super activists that are going to be very involved in the election in 2024, knocking on doors and volunteers.
00:19:22.000 And Matthew Graves, this is him metaphorically knocking on the door of 3,000 super activists heading into the 2024 election.
00:19:30.000 Did I hear that correctly?
00:19:32.000 I believe that you did.
00:19:34.000 I mean, what a thought.
00:19:35.000 So let's keep in mind who Matthew Graves is.
00:19:38.000 He was a Biden campaign advisor, appointed to U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia by Joe Biden, took over the office in November of 2021.
00:19:47.000 His first act as prosecutor was to indict Steve Bannon on contempt of Congress charges.
00:19:52.000 He accelerated this January 6th prosecution, bringing seditious conspiracy charges against members of the Proud Boys and oath keepers.
00:20:01.000 He told the Washington Post in 2022, the total caseload for J6 would exceed 2,000 defendants.
00:20:07.000 So here's this thug, Matthew Graves.
00:20:10.000 By the way, I love when my prosecutors are up talkers, don't you?
00:20:13.000 It's like, oh my God, and then we're going to charge like 2,000 more people.
00:20:18.000 So what he's talking about, of course, is you just said, are people who are outside on this huge, massive campus of the U.S. Capitol.
00:20:28.000 And he's going to be rounding them up just like he's doing right now.
00:20:32.000 So he gave an hour-long presentation, Charlie, something unprecedented, an hour-long presentation going through all of the facets of the January 6th, you know, the events of that day, the prosecutions.
00:20:47.000 He brought up, you know, Stuart Rhodes.
00:20:50.000 He brought up the Proud Boys.
00:20:51.000 Looked like another performance of the J6 committee.
00:20:54.000 So what he was doing is bolstering Joe Biden's campaign launch last week.
00:21:00.000 This was the same day he posted that campaign ad about January 6th.
00:21:04.000 He was bolstering Joe Biden's central campaign plan, which is about January 6th and the alleged threat that Donald Trump and MAGA supporters pose to the country.
00:21:15.000 So I just hope everyone, we're trying to get some of these images here up on screen.
00:21:19.000 And so how many people, by the way, I want to make sure everyone's clear.
00:21:23.000 These are some people that were hundreds of yards away from entering the Capitol, simply watching what was happening, watching.
00:21:32.000 They didn't do anything.
00:21:33.000 They were watching, some filming, some were spectating.
00:21:37.000 So Julie, what he's saying is that anyone that might have been within 100, 200, 500, 600 yards, we might arrest all of you this election year.
00:21:48.000 Is that right?
00:21:48.000 People that didn't commit violence, people that didn't enter the Capitol, people that were technically on restricted grounds.
00:21:55.000 All of DC is a restricted ground.
00:21:56.000 The whole thing is, and they're going to be charged with federal crimes?
00:22:02.000 Well, they might be.
00:22:03.000 And I had an article up on my Substack declassified with Julie Kelly today.
00:22:07.000 The basis, the justification, Charlie, according to DOJ, that that entire area was off limits is because Mike Pence, the vice president at the time, is a Secret Service protectee.
00:22:20.000 And therefore, that automatically rendered that entire area off limits.
00:22:25.000 Well, I never knew that that was a law.
00:22:27.000 And they certainly, just like they're doing with so many other statutes, are weaponizing it in a way that was never intended to be.
00:22:34.000 So what he, what DOJ has been saying now for almost three years, keep in mind, almost every January 6th defendant has been charged with what, 1752, which is this knowingly entering or remaining on restricted grounds.
00:22:49.000 Well, people didn't know that this was off limits because Mike Pence, who by the way, was evacuated out of the building at 2.20 that afternoon.
00:22:59.000 His whereabouts, we don't have a precise location, Charlie.
00:23:03.000 We're told he was at a loading dock by some garage that was still technically Capitol property.
00:23:10.000 So that's how they're hanging on to these now 1,100 people who have been charged with the 1752.
00:23:17.000 This is the statute that Matthew Graves is warning about.
00:23:20.000 The problem is that it's at great risk at the DC appellate court.
00:23:25.000 I covered that last month in the case of Guay Griffin.
00:23:28.000 And you already have judges, including Chris Cooper, an Obama appointee, who the day after Matthew Graves made this threat dropped this restricted grounds count, two of them against a January 6th defendant.
00:23:43.000 So what Matthew Braze is going to have to prove as he's rounding up thousands more people who stood on grasp that they pay for on a Wednesday afternoon outside of a public government building that they also pay for, filled with people who work there who they also pay for.
00:23:58.000 He's going to have to prove that those people knowingly stood there, knowing that Mike Pence was at a loading dock somewhere and that they understood that he is a Secret Service protectee made that entire huge area restricted grounds and a crime to be there.
00:24:14.000 So shifting gears here for a second, the three-year anniversary was over the weekend and their telling of events now has direct electoral implications.
00:24:25.000 What is the status of Donald Trump's indictment in regards to Jack Smith?
00:24:31.000 It seems like we're going to get a delay if not a delay has already been granted.
00:24:35.000 But them calling an insurrection was not just a cable news rating trick.
00:24:40.000 It was to build the base to contaminate the D.C. jury.
00:24:44.000 So anything that lands in D.C. will almost assuredly result in a conviction.
00:24:51.000 Right.
00:24:51.000 So going back to Matthew Graves, he put that performance on exactly 60 days before the scheduled March 4th trial date in Washington, D.C. against Donald Trump for the events of January 6th.
00:25:04.000 It is straight up jury tampering.
00:25:06.000 It was broadcast on C-SPAN.
00:25:08.000 I'm not sure how much local coverage it got in Washington.
00:25:11.000 I assume it got some.
00:25:13.000 So here he is tampering with, again, a D.C. jury pool made up of almost 100% Democrats.
00:25:20.000 So that in and of itself is a problem.
00:25:22.000 Charlie, to your point about the trial, all of the pre-trial deadlines are automatically put on hold pending a ruling about this presidential immunity case that Donald Trump is pursuing.
00:25:37.000 Tomorrow in D.C. Circuit Court, the appellate court, a three-judge panel, two Democrats, one Republican, will hear oral arguments as to whether or not Donald Trump is protected from criminal prosecution based on immunity.
00:25:52.000 Of course, this is the first time courts, and certainly if it makes its way to the Supreme Court, will ever have a chance to determine if a president is subjected to criminal prosecution, something that's never been considered before.
00:26:05.000 So all the pre-trial deadlines, jury selection, eliminate, you know, what the exhibit lists, government witnesses, defense witnesses, all the back and forth that happens before a trial.
00:26:16.000 That's all on hold, which Charlie means this March 4th trial date is not going to happen.
00:26:22.000 It's impossible to catch up at this point.
00:26:25.000 That hasn't stopped special counsel Jack Smith from filing motions to which Donald Trump's attorneys responded last week, asking Judge Chutkin to hold Jack Smith in contempt for violating her order, which was automatic, actually, her order suspending all the pretrial deadlines that she had set leading up to the March 4th trial date.
00:26:48.000 They're going to do whatever they can to push this trial date pending some resolution at the Supreme Court, very likely, on the immunity matter.
00:26:58.000 So do you think this DC appellate court is likely to consider the presidential immunity?
00:27:04.000 And what does the Constitution say, if anything, about this?
00:27:07.000 Well, the Constitution doesn't say really anything about immunity.
00:27:12.000 And what Donald Trump's lawyers have argued is that the prosecution of a president is handled through impeachment.
00:27:19.000 And what they are arguing is that he was impeached, but he was not convicted on really the same set of facts and same sort of accusations that Jack Smith has in his January 6th.
00:27:30.000 There's four counts there, criminal indictment.
00:27:34.000 So this is another history making, you know, process and decisions that the country will have to live with the consequences of it.
00:27:43.000 Just think, Charlie, and this is another thing Trump's lawyers have argued.
00:27:47.000 If the appellate court, and I fully expect them to uphold Judge Chutkin's order that denied presidential immunity, if the appellate court agrees with Judge Chutkin and ultimately the Supreme Court agrees, we are now entering more unchartered territory where the incoming administration of its predecessor then can think up whatever criminal charges they want to think of.
00:28:14.000 And the four in Jack Smith's indictment are ridiculous, two obstruction of an official proceeding counts, deprivation of rights, conspiracy to defraud the United States.
00:28:22.000 It does not, you know, murder, theft, something significant or solid.
00:28:28.000 These are super vague charges.
00:28:30.000 In fact, two of them are before the Supreme Court right now.
00:28:33.000 So this will be more uncharted territory.
00:28:36.000 And then the consequences of this will just keep be, this will be a repeated cycle now in the future of America that we've seen in banana republics and other countries where the new president prosecutes former president of the opposite party, tries to get him in prison.
00:28:54.000 That's what we're going to end up with if the Supreme Court does not reject Judge Chutkin's denial of presidential immunity in this case.
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00:29:55.000 Plug your sub stack, Julie, please.
00:29:58.000 Thank you, Charlie.
00:29:58.000 Declassified with Julie Kelly and Substaff.
00:30:01.000 And also, I have a piece up on Real Career Investigations.
00:30:04.000 I'm writing for them, some J6 pieces, and then my latest on the Whitmer fed napping hoax. 0.97
00:30:10.000 Well, very good.
00:30:10.000 So I just question three years.
00:30:14.000 Do we know anyone, anything about the pipe bombs?
00:30:17.000 Who planted the pipe bombs?
00:30:19.000 Who?
00:30:19.000 Forgot.
00:30:20.000 We forgot about the pipe bomber, didn't we?
00:30:22.000 You know, every on every anniversary, the FBI pretends they care or that the pipe bomb was legitimate.
00:30:30.000 And so what they did the other day was now they've amped it up to a $500,000 reward for any information to get the pipe bomber.
00:30:37.000 And then, of course, they show a photograph of the sneakers.
00:30:40.000 That's the only thing that they have, these gym shoes.
00:30:42.000 But it's amazing, Charlie, of all the charging documents that I read, all the affidavits, the amount of resources that the FBI uses, not just government resources, but big tech and major corporations, Bank of America, you name it, they happily fork over any information, any data, any customer information.
00:31:06.000 We know that they used a geofense warrant to collect all of the cell phones information of everyone who is in the vicinity of Washington on the 5th and 6th, but they still can't find the pipe bomber.
00:31:18.000 And it's important to remember what the pipe bomb scare did.
00:31:22.000 It initiated the first lockdowns of house office buildings.
00:31:26.000 It allowed police to go to a separate channel.
00:31:30.000 And this really started the alleged panic.
00:31:33.000 Kamala Harris was at the DNC.
00:31:36.000 We still have no explanation as to why Kamala Harris left the Capitol about 11 o'clock that morning. 0.67
00:31:42.000 She's a sitting U.S. Senator and the incoming VP. 1.00
00:31:45.000 She left to go to DNC headquarters with Secret Service at the time.
00:31:51.000 And that security detail somehow missed this alleged explosive device that was outside of this relatively small building.
00:31:59.000 How did that happen?
00:32:00.000 Another unanswered question related to not just January 6th, but the pipe bomb.
00:32:06.000 Charlie, I want to go back to Matthew Graves because you played that clip and then you played Joe Biden.
00:32:12.000 Keep in mind that Matthew Graves' wife, Fatima Goss Graves, runs a $100 million nonprofit in Washington, a far-left radical nonprofit that supports abortion on demand.
00:32:24.000 She's part of the crusade to get rid of Clarence Thomas.
00:32:28.000 She's a trans activist.
00:32:30.000 She was just at a hearing last month where she confronted Riley Gaines about men dressing as women and competing in women's sports.
00:32:40.000 She has visited the Biden White House nearly three dozen times since her husband became DCUS attorney.
00:32:49.000 She very well could be the conduit between whatever they want out of the White House and what they get out of this DCUS attorney's office.
00:32:56.000 Three dozen times she has been there, including meeting at events with Joe Biden, meeting directly with Kamala Harris, at events with cabinet members and Democratic lawmakers.
00:33:08.000 This is something she brags about on social media.
00:33:11.000 So all of this reeks so much, the collaboration here.
00:33:16.000 And again, Charlie, why aren't Republicans doing something about this?
00:33:20.000 Why are we still funding the DCUS Attorney's Office?
00:33:22.000 Why are we funding the Washington FBI field office?
00:33:26.000 Why are we still funding Jack Smith, who released his report last week, almost $8 million he has spent in the less than a year?
00:33:35.000 So Republicans are helping to fund the very same authoritarians that are coming after their own voters.
00:33:44.000 The bad guys have created and exploited a serious loophole.
00:33:48.000 And it's going to be almost impossible to close, which is the radicalism and the favors of the spouse.
00:33:55.000 Look at Jack Smith.
00:33:56.000 Jack Smith's spouse, his wife, is a Michelle Obama documentary filmmaker, right?
00:34:02.000 This happens a lot, and you can start to see the dots connected through it.
00:34:06.000 Julie, thank you for your work.
00:34:08.000 I sure hope the Supreme Court steps in and issues some sanity in the midst of all this.
00:34:13.000 Julie, thank you so much.
00:34:14.000 Thanks, Charlie.
00:34:17.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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00:34:22.000 Thanks so much for listening.
00:34:23.000 God bless.
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