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00:01:49.000So, Monica, it looks as if there very well might be some deep state maneuvering to remove Biden, yet they're insisting he's going to remain.
00:01:59.000Well, first of all, Charlie, hi, and it's so great to be back with you.
00:02:03.000It has been a long time and I've missed you.
00:02:05.000And I do hope you'll be a guest on my podcast soon because I would love to have you.
00:02:11.000So when we talk about the deep state and we deconstruct what is actually happening here, I think we need to take first a step back and remember what happened to us in 2020.
00:02:23.000So in 2020, the globalist deep state, so that's the deep state here at home, the military-industrial complex, the uni party, the administrative state, worked hand in glove with the globalists in the Chinese Communist Party, the World Economic Forum, the World Health Organization, and other organizations to try to remove Donald Trump.
00:02:46.000And they pulled the ultimate trigger in 2020, which is there was a virus that alighted on the scene.
00:02:54.000And then fast forward a couple of months to the United States, and they had Antifa Black Lives Matter burn down the country.
00:03:01.000They rigged the election in various ways.
00:03:03.000And then, of course, the cherry on top was January 6th, which was a frame up of President Trump.
00:03:09.000When you think about what the deep state did just four years ago, all to stop one man and his movement, the America First Movement, and to try to get their globalist agenda back on track, their great reset.
00:03:24.000When you understand what they are capable of doing and what they have done in the past, Charlie, then you take a step back and say, what are they prepared to do this time to stop the same man and the same movement?
00:03:37.000Because they cannot believe he is still standing.
00:03:40.000So they want to go into this with the strongest possible position.
00:03:44.000And that is clearly not Joe Biden and it's clearly not Kamala Harris.
00:03:49.000They have a very difficult, vexing problem in front of them, because it'd be one thing to get rid of an ancient fossil who is corrupt and demented as Joe Biden.
00:04:00.000But now they have to get rid of two people, the president and the vice president.
00:04:05.000So what I'm thinking here, and again, I'm not privy to what the deep state has planned, but I know that they're not simply going to restrict themselves to the law fair being waged against President Trump.
00:04:20.000Again, you think about 2020 and they pulled full, five full major cards to stop Trump.
00:04:25.000So the law fair is a critical part of what they have planned, but they clearly have additional things going.
00:04:32.000Right at the top, Charlie, I'll tell you, I do not think Joe Biden is going to make it.
00:04:38.000And I think the evidence is all around us.
00:04:41.000The evidence is clear that the left's power brokers, namely Barack and Michelle Obama and the Obama machine, which are running the country right now, and this has been Obama 3.0, they've made a decision that they cannot do what they did in 2020 with Biden, which is hide him in the basement and not reveal him.
00:05:01.000So I think, and again, I don't know I'm speculating here, but it seems to me that they have made an executive decision to get rid of Joe Biden.
00:05:11.000They're going to have to deal with Kamala Harris as well.
00:05:14.000But when you look at the evidence, Charlie, it seems clear.
00:05:16.000Number one, the Hunter Biden prosecutions.
00:05:19.000I do not think they would have moved forward with these prosecutions of Hunter Biden, knowing as corrupt as the DOJ and the judicial system are right now.
00:05:29.000They would not have moved ahead without that.
00:05:31.000And now you get this special counsel's report on the classified documents situation from Mr. Hur, basically saying that Joe Biden is too senile to prosecute, even though he looks guilty on the classified documents matter.
00:05:47.000You would not know these things, Charlie.
00:05:50.000They would not be made aware to the general public unless the deep state wanted you to know this stuff.
00:05:58.000So it seems to me, and again, I could be wrong, but it seems to me that the deep state is now moving.
00:06:04.000They want to try to get Biden voluntarily to step out of the picture.
00:06:09.000But as you indicated, he is a tough, stubborn SOB, and he is not going to go on his own.
00:06:17.000So they're going to have to ratchet up the pressure on both Biden and Harris, but also Dr. Jill, who's holding on to the White House drapes by her bare knuckles because she doesn't want to leave either.
00:06:31.000And so the deep state, I think, is going to have to ratchet up their efforts to achieve their goal of removing him and replacing him with someone more viable.
00:06:40.000So what would that look like in your speculation?
00:06:52.000And I want to say that about two years ago, yeah, I guess it was March of 2021, I was on the main stage at CPAC with our good friend Jack Posobiec and Ronnie Jackson.
00:07:06.000So again, March of 21, and we were all asked who's going to be the Republican nominee.
00:07:12.000And we all said Donald Trump, clearly.
00:07:14.000And then we were asked about the Democrat nominee.
00:07:16.000And Charlie, as far as I am aware, there's only one person who has raised the Michelle Obama possibility before me.
00:07:25.000And that's our friend Joel Gilbert, who's done a great documentary called Michelle Obama 2024.
00:07:30.000He showed me that documentary before I went to CPAC that year.
00:07:35.000And so from the main stage, I said, keep your eye on Michelle.
00:07:41.000And you can hear a gasp across the thousands of people gathered at CPAC that year.
00:07:47.000And I said, don't shoot the messenger, but it does us no good to live in fantasy land or in some unreal view of what the race might be.
00:07:57.000We have to be prepared for the worst case scenario.
00:08:00.000So if in fact it is Michelle, here's how I think it could unfold.
00:08:05.000And frankly, if it's Gavin or anybody else, but to me, Michelle Obama is the only one who really squares the circle for the Democrats, because if they have to get rid of Joe and Kamala, they really don't want to piss off their most devoted voting base, which is black women.
00:08:23.000And the only person who squares that circle for them is Michelle Obama.
00:08:29.000It would be very challenging to run against her, but we have to be prepared.
00:08:35.000The Democrats, Charlie, and you know this better than anybody because you talk about it all the time, they do not play by the rules.
00:08:42.000So our side is over here playing by the rules and they're over here disregarding everything to get what they want and hold on to power.
00:08:51.000They have a super delegate system on the Democrat side.
00:08:54.000So they could literally wait to the last minute at the convention, swap out Biden for, say, Michelle or somebody else, switch over all of those super delegates.
00:09:05.000And now you have a Taylor-made nominee.
00:09:08.000And if it's Michelle, all they have to do is throw a switch and billions of dollars come in and they don't have to lift a finger.
00:09:17.000If they run Michelle Obama, Charlie, they have the infrastructure ready to go and she doesn't have to get bloodied up and bruised in a primary.
00:09:28.000She can also play the reluctant candidate.
00:09:31.000Like, gosh, golly, I had such a great life.
00:09:34.000Brock and I live in large, but my party and my country need me.
00:10:02.000You know, I had President Trump on my podcast last summer, and I had asked him about this.
00:10:08.000I said, Mr. President, you assume you're going to be running against Joe Biden, and you may very well be, but are you prepared for all other contingencies, including Mrs. Obama?
00:10:18.000And he paused, Charlie, and then he said, yes.
00:10:25.000I hope that that is indeed the case, because you have to be prepared for all comers, because I put nothing past the Democrats.
00:10:33.000They've made too much progress on their great reset agenda over the eight years of Obama, four years of Joe Biden.
00:10:42.000They're not just going to give it up so easily, never mind to one Donald Trump.
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00:13:10.000Look, I think he's got a couple of calculations that are going into this decision.
00:13:16.000I think first and foremost, he needs somebody who can actually do the top job if, God forbid, they're called upon to do the job and it's necessary.
00:13:26.000He needs somebody who can plausibly be president of the United States.
00:13:30.000I think that's number one in his head.
00:13:34.000So I don't just mean loyalty to Donald Trump.
00:13:37.000I mean loyalty to the America First agenda.
00:13:41.000No more never Trumpers, no more Obama holdovers, no more deep state plants who are trying to undermine the administration from within and from without.
00:13:54.000So the loyalty piece of this is a huge, huge piece.
00:13:58.000This is why Nikki Haley will never be Donald Trump's choice to be vice president.
00:14:03.000I know there is an argument that he should choose a woman.
00:14:06.000And I think, you know, just obviously he should make his choice based on merit.
00:14:12.000But if he is going to run against Biden Harris or if he's going to end up running against somebody like Michelle Obama, having a woman on the ticket would actually be quite a strength as long as it's the right woman.
00:14:26.000And he's got, you know, some superstars there, Christy Noam, Elise Stefanik.
00:14:31.000There are others that are really accomplished and would do a fantastic job.
00:14:35.000And then, of course, there's Vivek, Ramaswamy, who was just at Mor-a-Lago the other day being hosted by the president, Mrs. Trump, along with his wife, Aporva, who is an MD.
00:14:45.000She's also very accomplished in her own right.
00:14:48.000Vivek has proven himself to be quite a force and a real strong America first voice.
00:14:56.000So I think there's so many talented people from which to choose that I think Donald Trump really can't go wrong.
00:15:03.000There are many options, and I agree that loyalty is at the top of all of them.
00:15:09.000And so, Monica, I want to ask you now just about the old guard in the Republican Party that is starting to feel the heat.
00:15:18.000We see this with change of RNC leadership.
00:15:20.000We're starting to see this a little bit in the Senate, not as much.
00:15:27.000And it seems as if this is a very positive movement of an ascendant populist nationalist sort of philosophy that is growing in the Republican Party.
00:15:38.000Yeah, well, first, Charlie, I want to give you and turning point huge props for moving, particularly on the RNC piece of this.
00:15:46.000You have done extraordinary work and your leadership is appreciated by all of us who are truly America first.
00:15:52.000We needed that change and you really stepped in and filled that void.
00:15:57.000And of course, President Trump then has made his recommendations for the RNC yesterday on True Social.
00:16:03.000Look, I think there's something really profound going on in the country.
00:16:08.000You'll recall that when Obama was elected in 2008, there was all of this talk about the blue wall and a real realignment that Obama had started, you know, toward a permanent Democrat voting majority, which of course is their goal.
00:16:25.000And that's the illegal immigration part of this as well.
00:16:28.000But there was all of that conversation at the time.
00:16:31.000And then Trump comes eight years later and blows that all to smithereens.
00:16:37.000And one of the biggest reasons that happened is because Trump himself actually began a real realignment, not a fake one of Obama and Biden and the blue wall and all of that.
00:16:50.000That was like a temporary thing because Obama was like this exceptional candidate.
00:16:55.000But Trump actually started a real realignment.
00:17:00.000And by that, I mean he stood up as the blue collar billionaire from New York and addressed the forgotten men and women in this country directly.
00:17:10.000You know, every human being just wants to be heard and seen.
00:17:14.000And Donald Trump was the first presidential candidate in as far as we can all remember, who stood up and looked at them and saw them and said to them, I hear you, I see you, and I will be your champion.
00:17:31.000And so they took a huge leap of faith in 2016 and said, I hope he's not full of crap.
00:17:36.000We're going to elect him and see if he delivers.
00:17:42.000So the realignment that began in 2016 under Trump, attracting not just the Republican base, but disaffected Democrats and independents who did not feel seen or heard by their leadership on either side, all gave Donald Trump a chance.
00:18:00.000But it's been going on for quite a while.
00:18:03.000And only President Trump has really been able to capitalize on it, not just for himself, but for the country and for the average American.
00:18:12.000You can actually go back a couple of decades, Charlie, and trace the beginning of this whole America First movement to President Nixon.
00:18:24.0001968, he runs, talks about the great silent majority in 1969, brought in a lot of Democrats into the Republican Party because Nixon was so accessible to the working men and women in the country.
00:18:57.000It's all the same movement of regular, hardworking, taxpaying Americans, mostly people of faith who really have great pride and love for their country, and they don't want it under attack from within or from without.
00:19:47.000They're coming after me because they're coming after you.
00:19:50.000The deep state, the left, the imperial media, they're all seeking to squash our movement because when we feel our own power, they can't control it.
00:20:02.000And Donald Trump has been the most effective president in leading this movement and surviving the onslaught.
00:20:09.000And that's why I think he's going to be reelected again.
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00:21:52.0002015, he comes down the elevator at the escalator and they disregard him completely.
00:21:57.000And then when he starts gaining traction, that's when you start to see out of the diseased mind of Mrs. Clinton, the Russia hoax begin to take shape.
00:22:08.000And then the security state gets involved.
00:22:40.000That's why I said at the top of the hour, you know, they're not just going to go with this lawfare.
00:22:45.000If they thought that the law fair would actually secure a conviction, send him to prison, that would be the only thing that they're going to do.
00:22:53.000But now it's clear that these lawfare cases are beginning to unravel.
00:22:59.000Fanny Willis in Georgia, Jack Smith, D.C., the classified documents case here in Florida.
00:24:44.000How should we think about inflation and these CPI numbers and who is ultimately to blame?
00:24:49.000Yeah, the Consumer Price Index, which is core CPI, which is one of the big bellwethers that the Fed watches as they examine the economy overall and think about what they're going to do with interest rates, came in very hot today.
00:25:04.000Everybody had assumed because we had a couple of months where inflation is not cooling.
00:25:10.000Everybody needs to understand when they talk about inflation improving, they're misleading you.
00:25:16.000It's the rate of inflation that is slowing.
00:25:20.000It's not that prices are actually coming down or inflation itself is dropping.
00:25:26.000The rate of price increase is simply slowing until we got today's core CPI report, Charlie, and that showed that inflation continues to rage and is actually ticking back up, not slowing or slowing down in any kind of way.
00:25:44.000So the reason the market is down is because now Wall Street is freaking out that the Fed is going to look at this hot inflation report and say, okay, we're not cutting.
00:25:56.000We're not going to cut interest rates for the foreseeable future.
00:25:59.000So the market is very, very worried about that because I think the general consensus was that the Fed would not begin cutting rates in March, but perhaps April or May, like late spring, early summer, they would begin to cut rates, which if that juices the economy, which when you cut rates, it generally does, there's a political element to that too, where people would assume that the Fed was doing that to help Joe Biden's reelection, right?
00:26:29.000Because the economy would get stronger if they begin to cut rates.
00:26:32.000So we have this complicated ball of wax now in front of the Fed.
00:26:38.000And that's why you see this main slippage in the markets today.
00:26:42.000I don't think the Fed, and again, I'm not privy to what the Fed might do, but I'm speculating that the Fed is not going to be cutting rates before, maybe even before the election.
00:26:54.000Certainly not through the summer, I don't think, because inflation is raging so much.
00:27:02.000Everybody in the Biden administration, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Jenna Illin, the Treasury Secretary, who, by the way, was also head of the Fed and Bill Clinton's chief economic advisor.
00:27:15.000So she ostensibly knows what she's talking about here.
00:27:18.000They all came out and said in late spring, early summer of 2021, inflation is transitory.
00:27:30.000It's just a result of all of this pandemic-related spending.
00:27:34.000Well, we in the Trump administration had to spend a lot in the actual emergency of COVID to get the American people and small businesses through the most acute period of that crisis.
00:27:47.000The problem was when Donald Trump left office, he handed Joe Biden a tremendously strong recovering economy where the economic growth was running at about 6% and inflation was a measly 1.4 or 1.6%.
00:28:04.000So he handed off this growing economy, recovering economy to Biden.
00:28:09.000Biden and the Democrats immediately start pumping trillions of dollars into the economy.
00:28:14.000And then you get this inflationary environment and spiral that we're still suffering with today.
00:28:21.000So all of them were clearly lying to us for years that inflation was transitory.
00:28:39.000They did all of this on purpose to drive the U.S. economy off the cliff to, quote, invest in the Green New Deal, which is simply a communist approach to leveraging the energy sector to remake the entire economy.
00:28:55.000They did all of that in breakneck speed while lying to the American people.
00:29:00.000Biden and the Democrats always profess, Charlie, to champion the middle class, the working class, and the poor.
00:29:08.000Those are the people who are being squeezed the most by Biden inflation and falling wages.
00:29:32.000And what should the battle plan look like?
00:29:34.000It's a great question, Charlie, and actually probably the most important question and approach that he needs to take literally on day one.
00:29:43.000I know he's talked about enforcing the border on day one and drill, baby, drill on day one.
00:29:48.000Also on day one, he'll be very busy because he's got to start smashing the administrative state.
00:29:54.000So my very first job out of college, I worked with President Nixon, not when he was president.
00:29:59.000I was not born then, but the last years of his life.
00:30:04.000And one of the things that he told me applies to today and actually a reason why the deep state removed Richard Nixon and why they're so adamant about neutralizing Donald Trump.
00:30:16.000He said that he was very close to New York Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, who was a Democrat.
00:30:22.000But this was a time when Republicans and Democrats actually had real friendships.
00:30:26.000And they used to share books and talk all the time because they were intellectuals.
00:30:31.000Moynihan told Richard Nixon when he entered office that one of the most critical things he was going to have to do was essentially smash the administrative state.
00:30:43.000Moynihan told Nixon that the phrasing he used, Charlie, was the executive branch needs wholesale reform every generation, every 20 or so years, because if you don't do that, if you don't reform the executive branch, you're going to have people deeply embedded in that branch all across the government.
00:31:06.000And the corruption is going to be so extreme, you're not going to be able to dislodge it.
00:31:12.000So in Nixon's second term, he was going to do exactly that.
00:31:16.000If that sounds familiar, it's what we now know as wrecking the administrative state and essentially starting all over again.
00:32:10.000But because the executive branch has not been reformed essentially since the early 1960s, late 1950s after World War II, really has not had an overhaul.
00:32:22.000We're going to have to overhaul this thing from top to bottom.
00:32:27.000There's going to be a lot of people losing their jobs and the press is going to be all over him.
00:32:32.000But there are certain institutions that need to be taken down to the brass tax, like the FBI.
00:32:39.000There are other institutions that perhaps can be reformed, but it's going to require a wholesale reform like the State Department, for example.
00:32:49.000The entire security state, CIA, Defense Intelligence Agency, NSA, all of that stuff.
00:32:59.000People are going to say, well, we're going to need this, right, to protect against our enemies.
00:33:04.000Yes, but there are ways to reform these things while keeping the core of the institutions going.
00:33:15.000The only person who has the gravitas, the understanding, and the political will to do it, as well as being a heavyweight to carry it through, is Donald Trump.