The Charlie Kirk Show - February 14, 2024


The Plot to Replace Joe Biden


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An ENTIRE EPISODE with Monica Crowley. She's great. She doesn't think Joe Biden is going to be the 2020 Democratic nominee. She also talks about other alternatives, what Donald Trump can do to attack the Deep State, and more.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, an entire episode with Monica Crowley. 0.99
00:00:03.000 She's great.
00:00:03.000 We talk about is Biden going to be the nominee?
00:00:05.000 She doesn't think so.
00:00:06.000 We also talk about other alternatives, what Donald Trump can do to assail the deep state and more.
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00:01:29.000 Is he running?
00:01:30.000 Is he not running?
00:01:31.000 It's interesting.
00:01:32.000 Politico.com has a big article.
00:01:35.000 Biden is not dropping out.
00:01:36.000 Get used to it.
00:01:38.000 Well, joining us for the full hour is Monica Crowley, who has a great podcast out, host of the Monica Crowley podcast.
00:01:45.000 Monica, it's been a long time.
00:01:47.000 Welcome to the program.
00:01:49.000 So, Monica, it looks as if there very well might be some deep state maneuvering to remove Biden, yet they're insisting he's going to remain.
00:01:58.000 What is your reaction?
00:01:59.000 Well, first of all, Charlie, hi, and it's so great to be back with you.
00:02:03.000 It has been a long time and I've missed you.
00:02:05.000 And I do hope you'll be a guest on my podcast soon because I would love to have you.
00:02:11.000 So when we talk about the deep state and we deconstruct what is actually happening here, I think we need to take first a step back and remember what happened to us in 2020.
00:02:23.000 So in 2020, the globalist deep state, so that's the deep state here at home, the military-industrial complex, the uni party, the administrative state, worked hand in glove with the globalists in the Chinese Communist Party, the World Economic Forum, the World Health Organization, and other organizations to try to remove Donald Trump.
00:02:46.000 And they pulled the ultimate trigger in 2020, which is there was a virus that alighted on the scene.
00:02:52.000 They shut down the global economy.
00:02:54.000 And then fast forward a couple of months to the United States, and they had Antifa Black Lives Matter burn down the country.
00:03:01.000 They rigged the election in various ways.
00:03:03.000 And then, of course, the cherry on top was January 6th, which was a frame up of President Trump.
00:03:09.000 When you think about what the deep state did just four years ago, all to stop one man and his movement, the America First Movement, and to try to get their globalist agenda back on track, their great reset.
00:03:24.000 When you understand what they are capable of doing and what they have done in the past, Charlie, then you take a step back and say, what are they prepared to do this time to stop the same man and the same movement?
00:03:37.000 Because they cannot believe he is still standing.
00:03:40.000 So they want to go into this with the strongest possible position.
00:03:44.000 And that is clearly not Joe Biden and it's clearly not Kamala Harris. 0.97
00:03:49.000 They have a very difficult, vexing problem in front of them, because it'd be one thing to get rid of an ancient fossil who is corrupt and demented as Joe Biden. 0.90
00:04:00.000 But now they have to get rid of two people, the president and the vice president.
00:04:05.000 So what I'm thinking here, and again, I'm not privy to what the deep state has planned, but I know that they're not simply going to restrict themselves to the law fair being waged against President Trump.
00:04:17.000 They have to pull another card.
00:04:20.000 Again, you think about 2020 and they pulled full, five full major cards to stop Trump.
00:04:25.000 So the law fair is a critical part of what they have planned, but they clearly have additional things going.
00:04:32.000 Right at the top, Charlie, I'll tell you, I do not think Joe Biden is going to make it.
00:04:38.000 And I think the evidence is all around us.
00:04:41.000 The evidence is clear that the left's power brokers, namely Barack and Michelle Obama and the Obama machine, which are running the country right now, and this has been Obama 3.0, they've made a decision that they cannot do what they did in 2020 with Biden, which is hide him in the basement and not reveal him.
00:05:01.000 So I think, and again, I don't know I'm speculating here, but it seems to me that they have made an executive decision to get rid of Joe Biden.
00:05:11.000 They're going to have to deal with Kamala Harris as well.
00:05:14.000 But when you look at the evidence, Charlie, it seems clear.
00:05:16.000 Number one, the Hunter Biden prosecutions.
00:05:19.000 I do not think they would have moved forward with these prosecutions of Hunter Biden, knowing as corrupt as the DOJ and the judicial system are right now.
00:05:29.000 They would not have moved ahead without that.
00:05:31.000 And now you get this special counsel's report on the classified documents situation from Mr. Hur, basically saying that Joe Biden is too senile to prosecute, even though he looks guilty on the classified documents matter.
00:05:47.000 You would not know these things, Charlie.
00:05:50.000 They would not be made aware to the general public unless the deep state wanted you to know this stuff.
00:05:58.000 So it seems to me, and again, I could be wrong, but it seems to me that the deep state is now moving.
00:06:04.000 They want to try to get Biden voluntarily to step out of the picture.
00:06:09.000 But as you indicated, he is a tough, stubborn SOB, and he is not going to go on his own.
00:06:17.000 So they're going to have to ratchet up the pressure on both Biden and Harris, but also Dr. Jill, who's holding on to the White House drapes by her bare knuckles because she doesn't want to leave either.
00:06:30.000 They're clinging to power.
00:06:31.000 And so the deep state, I think, is going to have to ratchet up their efforts to achieve their goal of removing him and replacing him with someone more viable.
00:06:40.000 So what would that look like in your speculation?
00:06:45.000 How would that occur?
00:06:46.000 Is it after the convention?
00:06:48.000 What would the details of this potentially be?
00:06:50.000 So, you know, CPAC is coming up.
00:06:52.000 And I want to say that about two years ago, yeah, I guess it was March of 2021, I was on the main stage at CPAC with our good friend Jack Posobiec and Ronnie Jackson.
00:07:04.000 And we were having this conversation.
00:07:06.000 So again, March of 21, and we were all asked who's going to be the Republican nominee.
00:07:12.000 And we all said Donald Trump, clearly.
00:07:14.000 And then we were asked about the Democrat nominee.
00:07:16.000 And Charlie, as far as I am aware, there's only one person who has raised the Michelle Obama possibility before me.
00:07:25.000 And that's our friend Joel Gilbert, who's done a great documentary called Michelle Obama 2024.
00:07:30.000 He showed me that documentary before I went to CPAC that year.
00:07:35.000 And so from the main stage, I said, keep your eye on Michelle.
00:07:41.000 And you can hear a gasp across the thousands of people gathered at CPAC that year.
00:07:47.000 And I said, don't shoot the messenger, but it does us no good to live in fantasy land or in some unreal view of what the race might be.
00:07:57.000 We have to be prepared for the worst case scenario.
00:08:00.000 So if in fact it is Michelle, here's how I think it could unfold. 0.62
00:08:05.000 And frankly, if it's Gavin or anybody else, but to me, Michelle Obama is the only one who really squares the circle for the Democrats, because if they have to get rid of Joe and Kamala, they really don't want to piss off their most devoted voting base, which is black women.
00:08:23.000 And the only person who squares that circle for them is Michelle Obama.
00:08:27.000 So again, let's deal in reality.
00:08:29.000 It would be very challenging to run against her, but we have to be prepared.
00:08:35.000 The Democrats, Charlie, and you know this better than anybody because you talk about it all the time, they do not play by the rules.
00:08:42.000 So our side is over here playing by the rules and they're over here disregarding everything to get what they want and hold on to power.
00:08:51.000 They have a super delegate system on the Democrat side.
00:08:54.000 So they could literally wait to the last minute at the convention, swap out Biden for, say, Michelle or somebody else, switch over all of those super delegates.
00:09:05.000 And now you have a Taylor-made nominee.
00:09:08.000 And if it's Michelle, all they have to do is throw a switch and billions of dollars come in and they don't have to lift a finger.
00:09:15.000 But here's the critical point.
00:09:17.000 If they run Michelle Obama, Charlie, they have the infrastructure ready to go and she doesn't have to get bloodied up and bruised in a primary. 0.99
00:09:28.000 She can also play the reluctant candidate.
00:09:31.000 Like, gosh, golly, I had such a great life.
00:09:34.000 Brock and I live in large, but my party and my country need me.
00:09:39.000 So I guess I will do this.
00:09:41.000 She can play the whole I'm being drafted card and then she only has to campaign essentially for two months. 0.99
00:09:47.000 It keeps her pristine because she is a woman of color. 1.00
00:09:51.000 She's immune to criticism.
00:09:54.000 You know, this is the thing that keeps me up at night, Charlie.
00:09:58.000 This is like my worst nightmare.
00:10:00.000 We better be prepared for it.
00:10:02.000 You know, I had President Trump on my podcast last summer, and I had asked him about this.
00:10:08.000 I said, Mr. President, you assume you're going to be running against Joe Biden, and you may very well be, but are you prepared for all other contingencies, including Mrs. Obama?
00:10:18.000 And he paused, Charlie, and then he said, yes.
00:10:20.000 Monica, yes, we are.
00:10:22.000 Now, I hope that is the case.
00:10:25.000 I hope that that is indeed the case, because you have to be prepared for all comers, because I put nothing past the Democrats.
00:10:33.000 They've made too much progress on their great reset agenda over the eight years of Obama, four years of Joe Biden.
00:10:42.000 They're not just going to give it up so easily, never mind to one Donald Trump.
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00:12:44.000 So Monica, let's kind of build this out.
00:12:48.000 Donald Trump's vice presidential pick.
00:12:50.000 What would your advice to him privately and also publicly on this program be?
00:12:54.000 Do you think it matters that much?
00:12:57.000 Well, I think Charlie, you and I are available, right?
00:13:00.000 I'm not old enough.
00:13:03.000 Oh, you're such a baby.
00:13:05.000 Come on.
00:13:05.000 That's true.
00:13:06.000 Well, I am definitely available.
00:13:10.000 Look, I think he's got a couple of calculations that are going into this decision.
00:13:16.000 I think first and foremost, he needs somebody who can actually do the top job if, God forbid, they're called upon to do the job and it's necessary.
00:13:26.000 He needs somebody who can plausibly be president of the United States.
00:13:30.000 I think that's number one in his head.
00:13:32.000 Number two is loyalty.
00:13:34.000 So I don't just mean loyalty to Donald Trump.
00:13:37.000 I mean loyalty to the America First agenda.
00:13:41.000 No more never Trumpers, no more Obama holdovers, no more deep state plants who are trying to undermine the administration from within and from without.
00:13:52.000 Forget it, no more.
00:13:54.000 So the loyalty piece of this is a huge, huge piece.
00:13:58.000 This is why Nikki Haley will never be Donald Trump's choice to be vice president.
00:14:03.000 I know there is an argument that he should choose a woman.
00:14:06.000 And I think, you know, just obviously he should make his choice based on merit.
00:14:12.000 But if he is going to run against Biden Harris or if he's going to end up running against somebody like Michelle Obama, having a woman on the ticket would actually be quite a strength as long as it's the right woman.
00:14:26.000 And he's got, you know, some superstars there, Christy Noam, Elise Stefanik.
00:14:31.000 There are others that are really accomplished and would do a fantastic job.
00:14:35.000 And then, of course, there's Vivek, Ramaswamy, who was just at Mor-a-Lago the other day being hosted by the president, Mrs. Trump, along with his wife, Aporva, who is an MD.
00:14:45.000 She's also very accomplished in her own right.
00:14:48.000 Vivek has proven himself to be quite a force and a real strong America first voice.
00:14:56.000 So I think there's so many talented people from which to choose that I think Donald Trump really can't go wrong.
00:15:03.000 There are many options, and I agree that loyalty is at the top of all of them.
00:15:09.000 And so, Monica, I want to ask you now just about the old guard in the Republican Party that is starting to feel the heat.
00:15:18.000 We see this with change of RNC leadership.
00:15:20.000 We're starting to see this a little bit in the Senate, not as much.
00:15:25.000 What do you attribute this to?
00:15:27.000 And it seems as if this is a very positive movement of an ascendant populist nationalist sort of philosophy that is growing in the Republican Party.
00:15:38.000 Yeah, well, first, Charlie, I want to give you and turning point huge props for moving, particularly on the RNC piece of this.
00:15:46.000 You have done extraordinary work and your leadership is appreciated by all of us who are truly America first.
00:15:52.000 We needed that change and you really stepped in and filled that void.
00:15:57.000 And of course, President Trump then has made his recommendations for the RNC yesterday on True Social.
00:16:03.000 Look, I think there's something really profound going on in the country.
00:16:08.000 You'll recall that when Obama was elected in 2008, there was all of this talk about the blue wall and a real realignment that Obama had started, you know, toward a permanent Democrat voting majority, which of course is their goal.
00:16:25.000 And that's the illegal immigration part of this as well.
00:16:28.000 But there was all of that conversation at the time.
00:16:31.000 And then Trump comes eight years later and blows that all to smithereens.
00:16:37.000 And one of the biggest reasons that happened is because Trump himself actually began a real realignment, not a fake one of Obama and Biden and the blue wall and all of that.
00:16:50.000 That was like a temporary thing because Obama was like this exceptional candidate.
00:16:55.000 But Trump actually started a real realignment.
00:17:00.000 And by that, I mean he stood up as the blue collar billionaire from New York and addressed the forgotten men and women in this country directly.
00:17:10.000 You know, every human being just wants to be heard and seen.
00:17:14.000 And Donald Trump was the first presidential candidate in as far as we can all remember, who stood up and looked at them and saw them and said to them, I hear you, I see you, and I will be your champion. 0.99
00:17:31.000 And so they took a huge leap of faith in 2016 and said, I hope he's not full of crap. 0.98
00:17:36.000 We're going to elect him and see if he delivers. 0.99
00:17:39.000 And you know what?
00:17:39.000 For four years, he did exactly that.
00:17:42.000 So the realignment that began in 2016 under Trump, attracting not just the Republican base, but disaffected Democrats and independents who did not feel seen or heard by their leadership on either side, all gave Donald Trump a chance.
00:18:00.000 But it's been going on for quite a while.
00:18:03.000 And only President Trump has really been able to capitalize on it, not just for himself, but for the country and for the average American.
00:18:12.000 You can actually go back a couple of decades, Charlie, and trace the beginning of this whole America First movement to President Nixon.
00:18:24.000 1968, he runs, talks about the great silent majority in 1969, brought in a lot of Democrats into the Republican Party because Nixon was so accessible to the working men and women in the country.
00:18:38.000 So that really began.
00:18:40.000 They were like Nixon Democrats.
00:18:42.000 And then fast forward, they became Reagan Democrats. 0.83
00:18:46.000 Fast forward, then you get the Tea Party because Obama was so insanely communist.
00:18:52.000 And now fast forward to America First.
00:18:54.000 Charlie, it's all the same movement.
00:18:57.000 It's all the same movement of regular, hardworking, taxpaying Americans, mostly people of faith who really have great pride and love for their country, and they don't want it under attack from within or from without.
00:19:12.000 And so these are all the same people.
00:19:15.000 Sometimes the face changes, but the movement is exactly the same.
00:19:20.000 And what they cannot believe on the left is that Donald Trump is still standing, right?
00:19:25.000 Because the deep state went after President Nixon.
00:19:28.000 Watergate was a deep state operation, not to excuse his behavior in Watergate, but it was a deep state operation.
00:19:35.000 They tried to remove Ronald Reagan.
00:19:37.000 They failed, thank goodness.
00:19:38.000 But they keep coming at Donald Trump.
00:19:41.000 It's not just about going after the president.
00:19:44.000 It's about going after us.
00:19:46.000 Trump says this all the time, right?
00:19:47.000 They're coming after me because they're coming after you.
00:19:50.000 The deep state, the left, the imperial media, they're all seeking to squash our movement because when we feel our own power, they can't control it.
00:20:02.000 And Donald Trump has been the most effective president in leading this movement and surviving the onslaught.
00:20:09.000 And that's why I think he's going to be reelected again.
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00:21:25.000 So can you push back?
00:21:27.000 Some people will say, but there's so many forces against Trump.
00:21:31.000 They're going to rig it.
00:21:32.000 They're going to prevent it from ever happening.
00:21:35.000 How do you respond to that, Monica?
00:21:36.000 That kind of very dark negative that they took out Nixon, they took out JFK and they're going to take out Trump too.
00:21:43.000 Yeah, and that is a straight up legit argument, Charlie.
00:21:48.000 And look, like I said, they cannot believe that the man is still standing.
00:21:51.000 Think about it.
00:21:52.000 2015, he comes down the elevator at the escalator and they disregard him completely.
00:21:57.000 And then when he starts gaining traction, that's when you start to see out of the diseased mind of Mrs. Clinton, the Russia hoax begin to take shape.
00:22:08.000 And then the security state gets involved.
00:22:10.000 The imperial media gets involved.
00:22:13.000 The Union Party gets involved.
00:22:15.000 People on our own side are attacking Donald Trump.
00:22:18.000 So for eight years now, Charlie, he has been subjected to this onslaught.
00:22:23.000 And he has survived it because he really is superhuman.
00:22:26.000 I mean, I look at Donald Trump.
00:22:28.000 I see hand of God.
00:22:29.000 I see hedge of protection around him for sure.
00:22:32.000 But that doesn't mean that they don't still have an arsenal with which to throw at him.
00:22:39.000 And they will continue to do it.
00:22:40.000 That's why I said at the top of the hour, you know, they're not just going to go with this lawfare.
00:22:45.000 If they thought that the law fair would actually secure a conviction, send him to prison, that would be the only thing that they're going to do.
00:22:53.000 But now it's clear that these lawfare cases are beginning to unravel.
00:22:59.000 Fanny Willis in Georgia, Jack Smith, D.C., the classified documents case here in Florida.
00:23:05.000 They're all starting to unravel.
00:23:07.000 So they will continue to dream up creative ways to come at Trump.
00:23:13.000 So I am a natural optimist.
00:23:15.000 I am a happy warrior.
00:23:16.000 So I do believe in the end that he is going to prevail.
00:23:20.000 But you are 100% right that in 2016, he caught them all flat-footed.
00:23:26.000 And they did not believe he won.
00:23:28.000 They were literally screaming and crying in the streets.
00:23:30.000 They could not believe it.
00:23:31.000 And they vowed after that never again.
00:23:34.000 So it remains to be seen.
00:23:36.000 We saw what they did in 2020, and it remains to be seen what they have prepared here.
00:23:41.000 But President Trump right now is running an ideal campaign.
00:23:45.000 He's got a great team.
00:23:47.000 No leaks coming out of that team.
00:23:50.000 He is incredibly focused.
00:23:52.000 He is very disciplined on the campaign trail.
00:23:55.000 And honestly, you know, we all love the rallies, but President Trump, I think, is at his strongest when he's talking about policy.
00:24:02.000 And really his message this year, Charlie, is three things.
00:24:07.000 I did it once.
00:24:08.000 I can do it again.
00:24:09.000 And the three things are delivered a booming economy, enforced the border, and world peace.
00:24:15.000 I don't know what people expect or want anything else in an American president.
00:24:20.000 He delivered all three and he can do it again.
00:24:23.000 If he sticks to that while we bob and weave around what the deep state has planned here, I think he will prevail.
00:24:30.000 So let's talk about the economy.
00:24:33.000 You were in the Treasury Department under Trump.
00:24:36.000 And so the CPI numbers, the market is collapsing right now.
00:24:40.000 It's down 700 points.
00:24:41.000 It might even go to 1,000 today.
00:24:44.000 How should we think about inflation and these CPI numbers and who is ultimately to blame?
00:24:49.000 Yeah, the Consumer Price Index, which is core CPI, which is one of the big bellwethers that the Fed watches as they examine the economy overall and think about what they're going to do with interest rates, came in very hot today.
00:25:04.000 Everybody had assumed because we had a couple of months where inflation is not cooling.
00:25:10.000 Everybody needs to understand when they talk about inflation improving, they're misleading you.
00:25:16.000 It's the rate of inflation that is slowing.
00:25:20.000 It's not that prices are actually coming down or inflation itself is dropping.
00:25:25.000 That's not the case.
00:25:26.000 The rate of price increase is simply slowing until we got today's core CPI report, Charlie, and that showed that inflation continues to rage and is actually ticking back up, not slowing or slowing down in any kind of way.
00:25:44.000 So the reason the market is down is because now Wall Street is freaking out that the Fed is going to look at this hot inflation report and say, okay, we're not cutting.
00:25:56.000 We're not going to cut interest rates for the foreseeable future.
00:25:59.000 So the market is very, very worried about that because I think the general consensus was that the Fed would not begin cutting rates in March, but perhaps April or May, like late spring, early summer, they would begin to cut rates, which if that juices the economy, which when you cut rates, it generally does, there's a political element to that too, where people would assume that the Fed was doing that to help Joe Biden's reelection, right?
00:26:29.000 Because the economy would get stronger if they begin to cut rates.
00:26:32.000 So we have this complicated ball of wax now in front of the Fed.
00:26:38.000 And that's why you see this main slippage in the markets today.
00:26:42.000 I don't think the Fed, and again, I'm not privy to what the Fed might do, but I'm speculating that the Fed is not going to be cutting rates before, maybe even before the election.
00:26:54.000 Certainly not through the summer, I don't think, because inflation is raging so much.
00:26:59.000 One quick point here, Charlie.
00:27:02.000 Everybody in the Biden administration, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Jenna Illin, the Treasury Secretary, who, by the way, was also head of the Fed and Bill Clinton's chief economic advisor.
00:27:15.000 So she ostensibly knows what she's talking about here.
00:27:18.000 They all came out and said in late spring, early summer of 2021, inflation is transitory.
00:27:27.000 It's just temporary.
00:27:29.000 Don't worry about it.
00:27:30.000 It's just a result of all of this pandemic-related spending.
00:27:34.000 Well, we in the Trump administration had to spend a lot in the actual emergency of COVID to get the American people and small businesses through the most acute period of that crisis.
00:27:47.000 The problem was when Donald Trump left office, he handed Joe Biden a tremendously strong recovering economy where the economic growth was running at about 6% and inflation was a measly 1.4 or 1.6%.
00:28:04.000 So he handed off this growing economy, recovering economy to Biden.
00:28:09.000 Biden and the Democrats immediately start pumping trillions of dollars into the economy.
00:28:14.000 And then you get this inflationary environment and spiral that we're still suffering with today.
00:28:21.000 So all of them were clearly lying to us for years that inflation was transitory.
00:28:27.000 They knew it wasn't going to be.
00:28:29.000 We all knew once inflation gets entrenched, very difficult and painful to dislodge with higher interest rates and the rest of it.
00:28:38.000 They did not care.
00:28:39.000 They did all of this on purpose to drive the U.S. economy off the cliff to, quote, invest in the Green New Deal, which is simply a communist approach to leveraging the energy sector to remake the entire economy.
00:28:55.000 They did all of that in breakneck speed while lying to the American people.
00:29:00.000 Biden and the Democrats always profess, Charlie, to champion the middle class, the working class, and the poor.
00:29:08.000 Those are the people who are being squeezed the most by Biden inflation and falling wages.
00:29:15.000 They simply cannot make ends meet.
00:29:18.000 And Biden and the Democrats are full of it when they say that they care about those people.
00:29:22.000 So Monica, if Donald Trump were to win, what is the battle plan to go after the deep state?
00:29:27.000 What can we learn from Nixon, JFK, Reagan?
00:29:30.000 What can be done?
00:29:32.000 And what should the battle plan look like?
00:29:34.000 It's a great question, Charlie, and actually probably the most important question and approach that he needs to take literally on day one.
00:29:43.000 I know he's talked about enforcing the border on day one and drill, baby, drill on day one.
00:29:48.000 Also on day one, he'll be very busy because he's got to start smashing the administrative state.
00:29:54.000 So my very first job out of college, I worked with President Nixon, not when he was president.
00:29:59.000 I was not born then, but the last years of his life.
00:30:04.000 And one of the things that he told me applies to today and actually a reason why the deep state removed Richard Nixon and why they're so adamant about neutralizing Donald Trump.
00:30:16.000 He said that he was very close to New York Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, who was a Democrat.
00:30:22.000 But this was a time when Republicans and Democrats actually had real friendships.
00:30:26.000 And they used to share books and talk all the time because they were intellectuals.
00:30:31.000 Moynihan told Richard Nixon when he entered office that one of the most critical things he was going to have to do was essentially smash the administrative state.
00:30:43.000 Moynihan told Nixon that the phrasing he used, Charlie, was the executive branch needs wholesale reform every generation, every 20 or so years, because if you don't do that, if you don't reform the executive branch, you're going to have people deeply embedded in that branch all across the government.
00:31:06.000 And the corruption is going to be so extreme, you're not going to be able to dislodge it.
00:31:12.000 So in Nixon's second term, he was going to do exactly that.
00:31:16.000 If that sounds familiar, it's what we now know as wrecking the administrative state and essentially starting all over again.
00:31:24.000 Moynihan was exactly right.
00:31:26.000 So Donald Trump, when he comes in, he now knows the landscape of the federal government.
00:31:32.000 He's going to do, he's talked about, I think it's Schedule F with the federal government employees where not allowed to fire them.
00:31:40.000 He's going to change all that so he can eliminate thousands literally on day one, but he's also got to root out.
00:31:49.000 And I think there are institutions like the FBI and others that simply cannot be reformed, Charlie.
00:31:56.000 And I know this is a point of debate and people on our side disagree.
00:32:01.000 I don't think these institutions can be reformed.
00:32:04.000 I think you need to raise them to the ground and start all over again.
00:32:07.000 And that is going to be a heavy lift.
00:32:10.000 But because the executive branch has not been reformed essentially since the early 1960s, late 1950s after World War II, really has not had an overhaul.
00:32:22.000 We're going to have to overhaul this thing from top to bottom.
00:32:26.000 And it's going to be painful.
00:32:27.000 There's going to be a lot of people losing their jobs and the press is going to be all over him.
00:32:32.000 But there are certain institutions that need to be taken down to the brass tax, like the FBI.
00:32:39.000 There are other institutions that perhaps can be reformed, but it's going to require a wholesale reform like the State Department, for example.
00:32:49.000 The entire security state, CIA, Defense Intelligence Agency, NSA, all of that stuff.
00:32:59.000 People are going to say, well, we're going to need this, right, to protect against our enemies.
00:33:04.000 Yes, but there are ways to reform these things while keeping the core of the institutions going.
00:33:10.000 We have to take on this reform.
00:33:13.000 It is a long time coming.
00:33:15.000 The only person who has the gravitas, the understanding, and the political will to do it, as well as being a heavyweight to carry it through, is Donald Trump.
00:33:25.000 Monica, plug your podcast, please.
00:33:27.000 Oh, thank you so much, Charlie.
00:33:29.000 It's called Monica Crowley Podcast.
00:33:31.000 You can get it wherever you get your podcast. 1.00
00:33:33.000 So Google, Apple, Spotify, Stitcher, the whole evil empire of podcasting.
00:33:38.000 You can go find it there.
00:33:40.000 And I hope you will check out the show because we do these kinds of topics all the time.
00:33:44.000 And Charlie, I hope you will join me on my show at some point soon.
00:33:48.000 We will make time.
00:33:48.000 Monica, thank you so much.
00:33:50.000 My pleasure.
00:33:51.000 Charlie, thank you.
00:33:52.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:33:53.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:33:56.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.
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