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00:02:25.000We, of course, had the travesty of President Biden giving Fauci that big sweeping pardon.
00:02:32.000Everyone knows that Fauci, he was the central character in the COVID drama.
00:02:37.000And I mean, you know me, I've been a skeptic of a lot of the efforts against Fauci, and yet.
00:02:43.000I've got to say, Rand Paul has done his work.
00:02:47.000He's made sure that whether we're able to prosecute Fauci or not, he is at least going to die a disgraced individual.
00:02:55.000He's exposed his shady behavior, the way he's deleting his emails, the way that he's lobbying federal employees.
00:03:01.000Hey, can you nominate me for prizes so I can get money?
00:03:05.000He's making up all of his COVID stuff as he goes.
00:03:08.000He loves the fame, he loves the attention.
00:03:11.000He caused enormous damage to millions of people.
00:03:14.000If nothing else, that is what we'd all deserve to see.
00:03:17.000We deserve to see him sitting there in Congress and saying, I'm not going to say anything more, even though I have a pardon, because if I start trying to explain myself, it will only put me back in legal jeopardy and it will just further reveal what a Cretan I was, how shamefully I disgraced myself and hurt this country.
00:03:38.000We needed to see that, and I'm glad that Senator Paul was able to bring it to us.
00:03:49.000Given Senator Paul's obvious obsession with calling for my prosecution, his repeated slanderous comments about me, and recently his publicly releasing my unredacted personal diary aimed at embarrassing and intimidating me,
00:04:12.000the only conclusion I can reach is that the sole reason he is calling me before this committee.
00:04:21.000It is to get me to say something, anything that could vindicate his repeated public pledges that I end up, in his words, quote, behind bars.
00:04:35.000So this whole thing keeps getting more and more explosive.
00:04:39.000He's trying to work through attorneys.
00:04:42.000There was a whole scene, we're about to play the clip.
00:04:44.000It's explosive, legitimately, where his lawyer is sitting right next to him.
00:04:49.000Rand Paul says, You were not invited to address this committee.
00:05:59.000I think this was a really powerful moment.
00:06:01.000I actually put the whole thing on X, this entire commentary from Josh Hawley.
00:06:07.000Of course, you're dealing with somebody who's taking the fifth to every question, and yet that weirdly opened it up for them to make very powerful and poignant comments.
00:06:18.000Points over and over and over again, just dropping bomb after bomb.
00:06:24.000And so it kind of just let guys like Senator Hawley, who are very, very talented at this, very accomplished lawyers, just have a field day.
00:06:32.000I thought this was particularly important as well, Blake.
00:06:43.000I mean, your net worth now is north of $12 million.
00:06:48.000You got over a million dollars in cash awards during COVID.
00:06:52.000During a 12 month, 24 month span during COVID, a million bucks you knocked down in cash money using federal resources.
00:07:01.000Now you're worth more than $12 million.
00:07:03.000You've got a pension that in its first year paid out north of $400,000 a year.
00:07:09.000A million people dead, you're getting rich.
00:07:12.000A million people dead, you're using federal employees to get cash awards for you.
00:07:17.000A million people dead, and you're here taking the fifth because you don't want to admit.
00:07:22.000That's what really happened in all that time was a multi month, multi year course of self dealing.
00:07:28.000It's so valuable that we're able to see that because what matters here is it actually goes beyond Fauci.
00:07:34.000When Fauci was still in government, he was, it's worth remembering, I believe the highest paid single federal employee out of what, two, three, four million people who work for the government in some capacity.
00:07:49.000And then he's doing all this stuff in the background.
00:07:51.000He's getting himself rich off of some of his pharmaceutical connections.
00:07:55.000He's able to Lobby other employees who he has power over in some cases to nominate him for prizes that can get this.
00:08:02.000Fauci is emblematic of, and also I should highlight this, where he's sending emails to people and saying, delete this afterwards, suppress this communication.
00:08:11.000This is a guy who spent his entire lifetime in government and he learned how to enrich himself, how to empower himself, but especially how to work within the scenes.
00:08:21.000This is supposed to be a democratic government, this is supposed to be a system where the people rule.
00:08:27.000That's why we have things like FOIA, and he's experienced.
00:08:31.000How do we get around what elected representatives in our government want to do and do what I want to do?
00:08:37.000We need to see the true Anthony Fauci on full display because we need to take apart that form of government.
00:08:46.000And that's why I really think it was so valuable to put all of this out there, even if President Biden's pardon is able to hold up, even if we're unable to actually prosecute this guy the way I think he really deserves to be.
00:08:59.000We deserve to see him there, to see him sweat, because there are other Dr. Fauci's in our government that need to be rooted out.
00:09:07.000Yeah, this is why Doge was so important.
00:09:11.000This is why obliterating the agency known as USAID, USAID, was so important.
00:09:17.000This is why having the federal workforce at the lowest level since the 1960s is so important.
00:09:24.000So, I mean, listen, there are legitimate criticisms of the administration, but in this way, We've never in our lifetime seen so much progress because there are tons of Dr. Faucis out there.
00:09:35.000And by the way, he was the highest paid employee, even more than the president.
00:09:39.000So this is an important moment, actually.
00:09:41.000And I think it's possible it gets overlooked in the whole.
00:09:45.000I mean, because some of these senators, as much as you and I will joke about the show, the theater of politics, and nothing ever gets done, some of these guys are really talented at cross examining these people at these hearings, like Senator Holliday.
00:10:20.000I'm just very interested in why it was this date.
00:10:22.000Did it have anything to do with the fact that 2014 was also the year that the NIAID or NIH began funding EcoHealth Alliance's understanding the risk of BAT coronavirus emergence grant?
00:10:38.000On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.
00:10:43.000And this is the same grant that funded the work on bat coronaviruses at the Wuhan Institute on Virology.
00:10:50.000Millions of Americans are questioning what happened during COVID, why we were given misleading information, misleading advice, why you gave conflicting statements based on, I guess, how you were feeling that day.
00:11:05.000So, what's interesting, Blake, about 2014 is that is the same year that the Obama administration put a moratorium, they declared a moratorium.
00:11:16.000On funding gain of function research in the United States, citing biosecurity and biosafety concerns after a series of lab incidents, including misplaced anthrax vials and things of that nature.
00:11:33.000So, President Obama, give credit where it's due, declared in coordination with the HHS, declared a moratorium in 2014.
00:11:49.000They moved that research with Peter Dasik and EcoHealth Alliance to the Wuhan Institute of Virology in 2014 to get around the moratorium in the United States.
00:11:59.000So that is Anthony Fauci going around the federal government's moratorium to continue research that he deemed in his ivory tower as too important to stop by shipping it off to China.
00:12:14.000So 2014 is why the pardon goes back that far.
00:12:18.000So, first of all, it's as you mentioned, It he basically we know that Fauci now is a guy who will just privately ask for even the most outrageous things.
00:12:27.000Hey, can you help me go win this prize?
00:12:29.000Person, and so you strongly suspect he probably was lobbying behind the scenes.
00:12:35.000Hey, I need a pardon, also make sure it goes back.
00:12:37.000Don't just cover the 2020 stuff, we need to go all the way back.
00:12:41.000He's a guy who's gonna know how this works.
00:12:43.000Think about how what we've also learned about Fauci the way he's managing FOIA, saying delete all of these emails.
00:12:48.000This is an operator who knows how to get what he wants, including.
00:12:52.000Going around at least gray areas, if not black areas of the law.
00:12:56.000So, as you said, 2014, Obama comes out, gives this order no gain of function research.
00:13:02.000Well, do we think Fauci is a guy who's going to just say, oh, that's what the president wants, we're going to respect that?
00:13:08.000Or if Fauci has something he wants to do, something he feels like he wants to happen, is he going to find a way to make it happen and feel like he's almost certainly going to get away with it?
00:13:20.000I think we've seen the Dr. Fauci that we've come to know.
00:13:24.000Thanks to Senator Paul's investigation, we have a better understanding of him.
00:13:28.000He's the kind of guy who's going to try to get what he wants.
00:13:30.000He's this bureaucratic barnacle, this bureaucratic infiltrator, this bureaucratic cancer, and he's going to do what he wants.
00:13:37.000And so, as you said, yep, the rules say we can't do gain of function.
00:14:02.000And we have the emails, we have the messages where he's worried about that.
00:14:07.000He's setting this up, he is covering his butt.
00:14:11.000Well, of course, he went to the Biden administration, who was handing out pardons for this sort of thing, and says, Make sure I don't ever get in trouble for this.
00:14:17.000Make sure I don't ever get held accountable for this.
00:14:19.000And he got what he wanted because he's a bureaucratic operator par excellence.
00:14:24.000Well, I actually think, you know, a lot of people are not going to be happy with the fact that, you know, he does have this pardon.
00:14:55.000So that's just one little fun thing to keep in mind.
00:15:00.000Secondly, Dr. Fauci, we now know this from the Fauci diaries, that he was obsessed with fame, with the adulation of celebrities and high profile politicians and from the liberal establishment media.
00:15:21.000And in some ways, it is very fitting that now he will be remembered as a disgraced bureaucrat who put more importance on CYA, covering his own rear, as you put it, for funding the very research that ended up unleashing a virus, a deadly virus, onto planet Earth.
00:15:44.000The man is singularly responsible for millions and millions of deaths all around the world.
00:15:51.000And he ended up, instead of acknowledging his mistake, instead of acknowledging that he was complicit and guilty and culpable for funding this research, he spent years pretending, cosplaying as some high and mighty hero of American science and innovation.
00:16:42.000For nearly 3,000 years, Homer's The Odyssey has shaped Western imagination.
00:16:47.000It tells the story of Odysseus as he faces monsters, shipwrecks, false comforts.
00:16:53.000And impossible choices on his long journey home.
00:16:56.000As one of the foundational works of Western literature, Homer's epic is more than a mythology.
00:17:01.000It explores permanent questions about courage, duty, loyalty, family, leadership, temptation, and the search for home.
00:17:09.000In one of the epic's defining moments, Odysseus rejects the offer of immortality from the goddess Calypso, choosing instead the long and difficult journey home.
00:17:18.000His decision reveals one of the central themes of the Odyssey that a life of duty, family, and home is greater than a life devoted to comfort or glory.
00:17:57.000Without further ado, we have Congressman Andy Ogles joining us, who's one of the best congressmen, I believe, in the country because you know what?
00:18:05.000He's really, really good on immigration, and we need way more of those guys.
00:19:39.000Because he was more interested in his own popularity than uncovering the truth and making sure seniors and those with diabetes and heart disease were getting the treatments.
00:20:16.000It's not nearly enough, but at least there's that.
00:20:19.000Okay, let's turn to your primary battle you have coming up.
00:20:23.000I didn't see this clip, and it's amazing.
00:20:26.000President Trump really likes you a lot.
00:20:28.000So I'm going to play a clip of him endorsing you, SOT 22.
00:20:33.000Andy's also been a champion of Tennessee's incredible farmers who I love.
00:20:37.000I get their vote by massive numbers, and we love our farmers.
00:20:41.000And he stood strong for our veterans, our military, our law enforcement officers, our great heroes of ICE and Border Patrol, who are also, you talk about the Second Amendment, they're under siege and unfairly, they're incredible.
00:20:54.000And very importantly, Andy strongly supports all of the things that we mentioned, but he really is going to town on the Save America Act, so important.
00:21:03.000Andy will be really enshrined as one of the best congressmen that you'll ever see.
00:21:56.000Well, so this green energy pact, it's literally dumping a million dollars against me.
00:22:00.000Right now, in their own words, said that they were, you know, because I'm a leader, I'm close to the president Trump, that they wanted to make an example out of me so future Republicans wouldn't dare be as outspoken and as conservative as I am.
00:22:13.000But, you know, going back to that clip that you played, you know, President Trump is fairly sparingly with his compliments.
00:22:20.000And when he said I was going to be enshrined as one of the greatest, it kind of surprised me.
00:22:25.000I mean, I, you know, I'm close to the president, I have the fortune of being in the Oval Office quite frequently.
00:22:42.000Uh, when I say we, I mean collectively, the House of Representatives for the future of this nation.
00:22:47.000We are literally being attacked by the left, these radicals out of California, they're now investing in Republican primaries.
00:22:53.000So, this is the same group that funded Kamala Harris and Bernie Sanders and the libtards over there from California.
00:23:01.000They're now investing in conservative primaries in Texas and Tennessee.
00:23:05.000In Florida, because they don't want the voices of freedom to prevail.
00:23:09.000Yeah, and that's exactly my read on this as well.
00:23:12.000I mean, you've got this green energy group, which is spending all this money against you.
00:23:18.000But at the same time, it's very clear to me that the real reason this is happening is because you are an outspoken conservative, that you're talking about repealing Hart's Cellar, that you're talking about immigration moratoriums.
00:23:29.000These types of things, they can't stand this stuff.
00:23:31.000They can't stand when people actually say what the voters want.
00:23:35.000And I can just attest that those policies.
00:23:38.000That you are so outspoken on is exactly what the people in this audience believe in as well.
00:23:43.000The grassroots, the base of this party, are really, really fed up with a lot of stuff that you're not allowed to say in DC.
00:23:50.000And so when you poke your head up and you say it loud and proud like you do from your chest, you're going to put a target on your back and you're going to get millions of dollars spent from California and elsewhere to try and unseat you.
00:24:02.000So how are we looking in this race, though, sir?
00:24:07.000We're leading, but you take nothing for granted.
00:24:10.000And so when the White House, Offered to do the tele rally.
00:24:14.000Of course, I jumped at that opportunity.
00:24:16.000And quite frankly, it's great for Tennesseans, the 5th District of Tennessee, to hear from the president because he's truly engaged.
00:24:24.000When it comes to policy and issues, I mean, he knows his stuff.
00:24:27.000You know, any conversation I've ever had with the president, whether we're having dinner or if it's just been sitting in the Oval Office, he knows the talking points, he knows the data, he knows what he's talking about.
00:24:38.000So we truly have a commander in chief, unlike Biden, who is in full control of his faculties, truly understands the moment at hand, and is truly leading this nation.
00:24:46.000Congressman, we get a lot of emails from people who are frustrated with Congress.
00:24:50.000They wish more stuff would get passed, like the SAVE Act, like other things, and they say, How can we improve it?
00:24:55.000And we'll often point to individuals like yourself and say, The improvement is happening one changeover at a time.
00:25:02.000But as this primary challenge indicates, there's a lot of people who think they have the power, they think they have the money to turn back the clock.
00:25:11.000So, what is the environment like inside the House caucus?
00:25:17.000On immigration, what is the generational change that we are seeing from your insider perspective?
00:25:23.000We love that you're calling for a moratorium.
00:25:35.000Well, let's look at the Save America Act, right?
00:25:37.000Like, so you have a piece of legislation that's not controversial.
00:25:40.000You can look at the CNN poll where Republican, Democrats, independents, 83% of Americans, white, black, brown, yellow, doesn't matter, 83% of Americans want that passed, and yet the Senate won't take it up.
00:25:53.000And so when you take an issue like immigration, which, by the way, we have to address, We have to fix this system that is broken.
00:26:01.000We can look at the consequences that are taking place in Europe right before our eyes.
00:26:05.000So we have no choice but to do something.
00:26:07.000But at the end of the day, the problem we have is even if the House today passed the absolute perfect immigration reform, the Senate would go on another vacation.
00:26:18.000I'm just as frustrated as the American people are.
00:26:20.000I mean, the Save America Act look, if you're going to be the world's most powerful nation, the superpower, you've got to have a strong standing army.
00:26:30.000You have to have transparent and accountability in our elections.
00:26:34.000And we don't have that right now because we know that the states like California, like New York, they're going to cheat to try to win seats.
00:26:43.000And so John Thune needs to put this on the Senate floor.
00:26:45.000I don't care if he has the votes or not, put people on the record.
00:26:48.000And if he's unwilling to do it, he needs to step out of the way and let Mike Lee or someone else, Rick Scott, someone to take the helm to call the vote and put these folks on record.
00:27:10.000I think they're up to like 14 or 15 senators that are saying, let's stay in D.C. and get the job done.
00:27:16.000And on this point for the Senate, and I apologize to interrupt you, but historically speaking, when you look at the talking filibuster and the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the Voter Rights Act of 1965, you look at Dodd Frank, you know, the talking filibuster has been used in the Senate.
00:27:31.000Over and over again to get monumental legislation across the finish line.
00:27:40.000John Thune, again, do your freaking job.
00:27:43.000Do what the former majority leaders have done in the Senate, and they use the talking filibuster, whether it takes two days, two weeks, or two months.
00:27:51.000Get it done because that's what the American people want.
00:27:54.000So if you're listening to Andy Ogles talk and you like the way he talks, which I do, there's a reason Ripple Labs co founder and one of Gavin Newsom's top donors out of California.
00:28:03.000California, who donated $10 million in crypto to Kamala Harris's campaign, San Francisco tycoon is working to take him out.
00:28:10.000So get behind him, send him some money, tell your friends in Tennessee, go out and vote for this man because we need more brave voices in DC that tell it like it is and that reflect the energy of the base.
00:28:22.000Congressman Andy Ogles, we got your back.
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00:29:42.000We, you know, still have so much tape to get to, honestly.
00:29:47.000And, Blake, I feel like we haven't done enough, at least, even while you were gone.
00:29:53.000About highlighting how crazy things got during COVID.
00:29:58.000So, I just want to play, I want an opportunity to play some of this stuff because we forget so easily.
00:30:02.000Our attention span is like 15 seconds, but we can't forget what was done to this country.
00:30:08.000And I, you know, there's a reason people are so upset at Dr. Fauci because this stuff ripped apart our lives for years.
00:30:16.000It upended the economy, it permanently broke certain things in our culture and our government that I'm not sure will ever be put back together.
00:30:30.000Yeah, I mean, it really is going to be that before and after time.
00:30:35.000I was joking with a friend because now we have these Zoomers who are nostalgic for the Bush era, early 2000s, which I'm not personally that nostalgic for.
00:30:44.000And someone said, we're even going to get it for the Obama era, for early woke era, because it's going to be this is right before everything broke due to COVID.
00:30:54.000Can you believe Walmart used to be open 24 hours?
00:30:58.000McDonald's had breakfast all day, and COVID came in, destroyed a lot of these things.
00:31:03.000COVID era was the last time a lot of people could affordably buy a house in the US before prices went haywire, before prices on everything went haywire.
00:31:12.000We broke a ton of things because people like Dr. Fauci said we need to shut down the entire world for a month, for two months.
00:31:21.000And it turns out shutting down the entire world for two months has ramifications forever.
00:31:26.000And there's people, as you said, lives were ruined.
00:31:28.000There's businesses that shut down, never recovered.
00:31:30.000There's people whose lives Spiraled in.
00:31:32.000There's people who died of ODs, people who fell apart in a million other ways because of a guy who had to do CYA because he was breaking the law in 2014.
00:31:41.000Here's the montage of MSM, mainstream news media on COVID, SOT 16.
00:32:46.000The way they repeat the incantation over and over and over again, like their moral superiority shielded them from any culpability of being complete idiots.
00:34:34.000They're still saying we're in a pandemic.
00:34:35.000And it's because we spent a huge amount of our national institutional well being on this, that people took.
00:34:44.000The expertise, the deference that we give to established authorities, people who were undeserving of that deference, cashed it in to feel like they were powerful, to feel like they were important, to feel like they were better than other people, and they caused tremendous harm to our country in the process without any justification.
00:35:04.000And we're still dealing with the after effects of that to this day.
00:35:08.000And that's why so many people are fixated on Fauci.
00:35:10.000There are a lot of people who just say, let's forget 2020, let's just blot it out like it was a Bad memory, but it can't be because we are still dealing with the after effects of it to this day.
00:35:23.000We have to have some kind of reckoning, some kind of final accounting of what happened there.
00:35:30.000And I think it's very important that when the history books or when the history articles, the history tweets are written about 2020, that people remember Anthony Fauci and those like him as a chief villain of it.
00:35:45.000We can't have this Saint Fauci that they tried to foist on us be the thing that's remembered in 50 years.
00:37:18.000So, if you were tempted to watch today's hearing and feel any sense of sympathy for Dr. Fauci, just remember what happened to this country and that scenes like that played out all across the fruited plain.
00:38:38.000He's the author of the Fatherhood Manifesto, which Was something really near and dear to his heart and something, a passion that Alex and Charlie shared.
00:38:46.000And he's the author of Unreported Truth, Substack.
00:38:49.000He's a former New York Times journalist.
00:39:01.000That's kind of my big question for you.
00:39:03.000We played the clips, we've gone through some of the absurdities of the moment, but the depth and breadth of the cover up involving social media, involving the media apparatus in this.
00:39:13.000Country is profound, and we have to remember what happened.
00:39:17.000You were patient zero for a lot of the censorship that happened in COVID.
00:39:23.000Tell us and remind us of your story of what happened.
00:39:41.000And yes, this virus kills some people, it kills some older people for sure.
00:39:46.000And if you're, you know, morbidly obese, it might not be a best day for you when you get covid, but but let's get back to normal, let's get back to business and um, and in 2020, you know the left hated me for that.
00:39:57.000Uh, you know, I think there were people on the right who supported me um, and Twitter actually supported me at the time.
00:40:04.000Twitter, that was sort of the last remnants of free speech.
00:40:07.000Twitter um uh, and they, you know, and they were interested in supporting a public debate and you know, Fauci and the, you know all the people at the NIH.
00:40:16.000All those people did not like me And also I was raising a question about the lab leak.
00:40:20.000I was not at the forefront of the lab leak debate, but I was on the side of, hey, you know what?
00:40:25.000Like this virus came out of a place where there's the largest laboratory in the world to research, you know, coronaviruses.
00:40:38.000And I was initially kind of like, hey, these look really good.
00:40:41.000The clinical trial data looks really good.
00:40:43.000And then because I worked at the New York Times, I knew what clinical trials, you know, How pharmaceutical companies can manipulate them.
00:40:50.000I saw that there were, you know, these trials had been conducted hastily, that the side effect data didn't look as good as it seemed at first.
00:41:15.000In the summer of 2021, these vaccines started to fail in a very rapid and profound way.
00:41:21.000And I'm not going to bore people with the science behind that, but it is unquestionable that that happened.
00:41:26.000And the first place they failed actually was Israel, because Israel, small country.
00:41:30.000They made a deal with Pfizer, which had the leading mRNA vaccine, and said, we're going to basically give it to everyone in the country in a few weeks.
00:41:37.000We're going to see how great this works.
00:41:41.000And then in the summer, there was this acceleration of cases and hospitalizations in Israel.
00:41:45.000And that's what led to this fight over boosters and mandates, which to this day, in my mind anyway, is in the background of our politics and has made a lot of people distrusting of public health, distrusting of the media.
00:41:59.000It's certainly for a significant number of people in this country.
00:42:03.000Has fueled anger about the you know, the deep state, the administrative state, whatever you want to call it and the Biden administration went all in on boosters and mandates and Tony Fauci was very much part of that and what we've now.
00:42:19.000And then I came under pressure because I was and I don't think this is an exaggeration to say I was the leading voice on twitter raising serious questions about these vaccines.
00:42:28.000Okay, I was saying, look at this data out of Israel, look at this myocarditis.
00:42:32.000I wrote a story for my SUB stack June of 2021, one of the first stories I ever wrote for my Substack about a young girl, a young woman, a young African American woman in Chicago who died of myocarditis after less than a month after getting vaccinated for COVID.
00:43:08.000And I don't know an infinite number of people.
00:43:10.000I have one degree of separation from two people I know who had some sort of pre existing heart issue.
00:43:17.000They got the shot and they died within a matter of days.
00:43:22.000And both far too young to just die abruptly.
00:43:25.000And I guess, do you have a ballpark number?
00:43:29.000How many people do you think might be out there who died in a similar manner because of this shot that was aggressively pushed and was aggressively marketed as completely safe?
00:43:48.000I believe the number is in the tens of thousands.
00:43:51.000And the reason that I base it on that is that there is data from South Korea actually looked and they counted deaths and they found something like 20 deaths in people under 45 that they thought were related to the shots.
00:44:15.000By the number of people who got the shots, by the number of people in the U.S. who got the shots, and by the fact that there were older people who also died from these shots, you get into the, I think, the tens of thousands.
00:44:26.000Plus, a lot of people had really severe short-term side effects.
00:44:53.000So, so, and, and by the way, if the shots had worked 100% or close to 100% against COVID, you could say, okay, maybe they even killed 10,000 people, but we gave a billion people these shots and they saved all these lives.
00:45:52.000They don't work and not just against infection, they don't work against severe disease.
00:45:56.000On August 25th, 2021, in his diary, Tony Fauci writes, We have evidence from Israel that the shots, not just that they don't work against infection, they don't work against severe disease.
00:46:16.000The media never asked, you know, never pushed them on it.
00:46:19.000And that's why Fauci wanted boosters because he realized it's not just, oh, people are going to get, you know, get COVID, but they're going to be fine.
00:47:11.000What I hope is that right now, because this diary's come out and because he seems so ridiculous that the left really can't defend him anymore, we can talk about the serious stuff.
00:47:21.000Yeah, hopefully, we can actually have a real conversation about it now because the left, you're right, is not defending him anymore.
00:47:27.000There, I mean, there's this great Scott Gottlieb, the even, yeah, even Scott Gottlieb, Scott Gottlieb, snake.
00:47:35.000So, Scott Gottlieb was an FDA commissioner, joined the board of Pfizer, true revolving door.
00:47:41.000Okay, the man's made millions from Pfizer.
00:47:43.000He always found a way to push the Pfizer vaccine.
00:48:02.000I was reminded of this clip, by the way.
00:48:05.000Alex Berenson, when you were talking about all this myocarditis and what was happening, this is RFK Jr. opining on a heart situation that Anthony Fauci himself had, SOT 23.
00:48:18.000He got vaccinated, a very, very public press conference in January of 2020.
00:48:26.000And then five months later, he had, and this is the first time that we knew this from the diary, he had a pulmonary infarction, which is one of the adverse events.
00:48:38.000That NIH, CDC, and FDA said are expected from the vaccine.
00:48:44.000He got treated for it privately by the best doctors in America at the same time he was telling everybody that that was not an adverse event.
00:48:52.000It's just another example of the public versus private contradictions that just seem to roll out of this man's mouth like they're nothing.
00:51:11.000Well, and we, we went over on the show yesterday how he was working behind the scenes as exposed in his own diaries to delay the approval of the vaccine because he, You know, he didn't want it to be Trump's October surprise.
00:51:26.000Six days after the election, Pfizer got their vaccine approved.
00:51:38.000This was last, I think, June, you know, a little over a year ago.
00:51:43.000And I'd written this story saying, look, it's very clear that Pfizer, with the help of the NIH and Tony Fauci, changed their protocols.
00:51:51.000So they weren't going to release any good news before the election.
00:51:55.000And unfortunately, nobody in the media, even Fox, they were not interested.
00:51:59.000But Charlie, because he was, you know, he had such a big intellect and always was interested in learning about whatever he could, said, come on and let's talk about this.
00:52:09.000And yes, Pfizer delayed, and Tony Fauci helped them do it.
00:52:47.000It seems to be inherent to the technology, whether it's the fact that mRNA is so immunogenic, it activates your immune system so aggressively, or whether it's what's called the LNP, which is a bubble around which the actual mRNA itself is held.
00:53:18.000Certainly nobody under 50 is getting COVID vaccines.
00:53:20.000The effort to get people to take an mRNA vaccine for RSV, which is a respiratory virus, or for the flu, those have absolutely gone nowhere.
00:53:31.000And Moderna stock went down, at one point was down 95% from its high in 2021.
00:53:37.000It's gone up a little bit because there's some evidence that mRNA might be helpful for a cancer.
00:53:48.000In conjunction with other cancer drugs, mRNA might help prime your body to fight certain kinds of cancer.
00:53:55.000And obviously, that would be great if it's true.
00:53:57.000It doesn't mean mRNA can cure cancer, nothing like that.
00:54:00.000But even a small incremental gain would be good.
00:54:03.000And so, Moderna's stock has gone up a little bit.
00:54:05.000But in terms of vaccines given to healthy people in the way we think about a vaccine prophylactically, I would say these are basically dead.
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00:57:05.000I'm grateful that you made some time for us today.
00:57:08.000I wanted to get into this because if you're at all plugged in on social media, you saw that.
00:57:15.000Our friend over there, Candace, released a video that it seems to be at least connected or a version of or related to in some ways.
00:57:26.000I believe it was Exhibit 11 that the judge basically didn't allow to be seen by the news media during the preliminary hearing, but was shown privately in court.
00:57:46.000At least that's what the state's position is on the rooftop.
00:57:51.000And there's a bunch of claims being made that this person was doing a lateral army crawl, that he jumped off a 12 to 4 foot roof, and he had to be trained because of that.
00:58:03.000You actually know this stuff inside and out.
00:58:05.000You know what it means to be trained professionally, all of these things.
00:58:09.000We'll play the video in just a second, but what was your initial reaction seeing this footage?
00:58:18.000I don't know how else to claim that she's wrong.
00:58:19.000She's wrong saying that, you know, I forget what she said.
00:58:22.000Basically, it'll have blown his shoulder out shooting it, or we just seen the gunshot go off.
00:58:26.000She's wrong personally, in my opinion, stating that this is, you know, the lower quality video and that the rumors going around of it being a high quality video, therefore, everybody is lying.
00:58:37.000There's very clear signs the video was compressed, or it was a screen recording, or a combination of both before it ended up getting sent to her.
00:58:48.000As far as I know, I look, you know, going through basic military training in the infantry, lateral crawl is not a thing.
00:58:57.000Low crawl, high crawl, three to five second rush, that's what taught when I came in in 2003, what's still being taught to this day, to the best of my knowledge.
00:59:04.000When I went through ranger school, lateral crawl wasn't a thing.
00:59:07.000I don't remember being taught lateral crawl.
00:59:09.000None of my buddies happened to remember either.
00:59:10.000When I was going through special forces training and selection, none of that was taught there either.
00:59:35.000Well, and there's a lot to go over here.
00:59:37.000But, you know, if we're led to believe that she's been sitting on this clip since October, my first question was well, this obviously shows somebody on a rooftop.
00:59:50.000And it's getting in the prone position.
01:00:06.000But besides the laws of physics and introducing the fourth dimension that we talked about with the exploding mic, that, you know, all of those other things that she's wrong about on that, she said it looked to her like he's unfolding a rifle.
01:00:21.000Because now you're saying he has a rifle on the roof.
01:00:23.000And he's in direct line of fire to where it would have impacted Charlie in the exact location in which it's shown.
01:00:29.000The exploding mic, I mean, we've talked about this.
01:00:31.000I don't even know if I went over this last time or not, but even a half a gram of PETN at the size that it is would explode into about 400 cubic inches, right?
01:00:41.000It would detonate into a gas state, instant change from solid to a gas to about 400 cubic inches.
01:00:57.000Newton laws of physics apply there as well, right?
01:01:00.000So we've got all of these things that go into it, but mostly that she's now claiming that it's a rifle that he's unfolding on top of the roof.
01:01:07.000Well, and so just a quick note on that I did check with people inside the courtroom that day and their, um, They're saying that this clip that was shown, and we're about to show it in just a sec, doesn't include the.
01:01:21.000I believe a different angle is what I'm led to believe.
01:01:25.000At least, again, I didn't see it, but there is a portion where you can see him kind of roll over the railing, assemble the weapon.
01:01:32.000It's a little obscured by the railing, but that's what apparently is happening.
01:01:38.000Yeah, that they have basically two angles.
01:01:41.000Guy goes over railing, and you see him doing something.
01:01:43.000As you said, it's obscured by the railing, but you can see.
01:01:47.000He's taking some kind of action, which we can deduce is likely pulling the rifle out of his pant leg, making it ready to go.
01:01:55.000And then there's like a brief blind spot after that.
01:01:58.000And then it's the video we see the guy running across the roof, taking a prone position, and at the exact moment where we know the shooting occurred, a second later, gets up, runs away.
01:02:11.000And people, they inject all this doubt into this because I think they're motivated by an ideological agenda or some sort of agenda.
01:02:20.000We're able to assess the evidence and put together what happened here.
01:02:23.000Well, that's another good important point, Blake, is that the timestamp is not included in this version.
01:02:27.000So let's go ahead and play the B roll.
01:02:29.000It's about a minute and 17 seconds long.
01:02:50.000So let's talk about that for a second.
01:02:52.000So, first of all, just being on a rooftop in general, the absolute worst position to try to assassinate somebody from because you end up silhouetting yourself.
01:03:00.000And even clearly, this guy in the video is well aware of that as it goes up.
01:03:07.000Going through sniper school, you end up calling it cancer.
01:03:09.000You look like tree cancer or something like that because what ends up happening is you break that natural outline of the top of that building.
01:04:06.000Okay, so keep playing the footage here.
01:04:09.000So there he is, kind of in a lower crouch position, going towards the building line of sight where you can only assume he's crawling.
01:04:20.000And essentially, this is what we see up until the point that, assuming again, the footage does not include the timestamp, but we know from the footage that was showed in court, not to the media, that the timestamp lines up approximately with when Charlie was, not approximately, exactly when Charlie was shot, which was 12 23 28 on September 10th, Mountain Time.
01:05:16.000So, Andrew, I just want to, as you're saying, even if you can't see his face there, well, we watched the.
01:05:22.000Preliminary hearing, we have footage of a person who you can see them far more up close.
01:05:27.000You can see the person limping with something likely down their pants leg, and we see the person, we see a car arriving that matches Tyler Robinson's vehicle.
01:05:38.000It's the fact that we can trace this person who's walking around the campus.
01:05:42.000They're walking towards the Lozi building right before this person who goes over the railing and does all of this.
01:05:49.000Every time we get one of these gotcha videos that's dropped, it's treated like it's literally the only piece of evidence in the entire case.
01:05:56.000When we know the reality is the exact opposite, that we have DNA evidence, that we have text message evidence, that we have surveillance evidence, that we have physical evidence obtained from the scene, and that all of this is what's coming together to build the case confession evidence.
01:06:11.000So keep in mind, right, that evidence that you just mentioned of him walking around shows him wearing a backpack, right?
01:06:16.000And then you see him take what Candace said was an unfolding rifle and throwing it down.
01:06:22.000I guarantee you, because after he ends up throwing it down, you see him moving into position on that bag.
01:06:27.000I guarantee you he was shooting off his backpack.
01:06:30.000To steady his rifle, shooting off of his backpack.
01:06:33.000And that's what he ended up throwing down and going over there.
01:06:36.000If anything, this video substantiates the other ones.
01:06:39.000And the fact that it's a lower quality compressed video, and that's the best argument they got, they're failing miserably, absolutely miserably at this.
01:07:04.000This is, for a lot of people in America, this is a common way to grow up.
01:07:08.000This is how I grew up shooting and hunting and target practicing.
01:07:12.000Like, there's basic training that you can pick up just by being in a family that's like this.
01:07:17.000Anyways, this point that Blake makes is really strong.
01:07:20.000So, they're showing this standalone picture or video, rather, from the rooftop, the Lossie Center, right?
01:07:26.000Where everything that we've been told in court is what you see sort of happen there, except they don't have the footage of him assembling the rifle, which was a different angle.
01:08:13.000And this is the very footage where they're actually able to trace his location from point to point to point based on timestamps, based on a visual identification of him going up the stairs, making his way to the rooftop.
01:08:26.000So, this video on the rooftop doesn't exist in a vacuum.
01:08:31.000It's connected to all these different pieces of footage where they can trace him moving into position, right?
01:09:31.000Why that's important, Matt, is because that's the same outfit he's wearing when he's got the weapon down his pants and he's going down the B roll we just showed you, and then he goes up on the rooftop.
01:09:45.000So he literally, so Lance Twig says that literally looks like Tyler Robinson from the surveillance footage, and then.
01:09:52.000As the timestamps will indicate, we track his locations all the way up to the rooftop, where we then see this footage that's released.
01:09:58.000And somehow I'm supposed to be told that that's proof that this isn't Tyler Robinson.
01:10:03.000When we can trace him the whole way, Lance Twigg says that's him.
01:10:07.000I genuinely don't know what I'm missing here.
01:10:12.000I think what you're missing is the fact that likely, if somebody ends up getting convicted of this murder, that somebody is likely going to get sued and lose all of their property.
01:10:23.000And so now, Likely they have to go out.
01:10:26.000And this is just my assumption here that just maybe, just maybe, if they're able to distort the truth to an extent that they completely pollute the jury pool, completely throw everything off, they do their best to instill reasonable doubt that maybe they'll get lucky and be able to have a bed to sleep in at the end of the night when all of this is said and done.
01:10:44.000Because every argument that they have defies common sense and logic, every single one.
01:10:49.000And what's funny is they try to say, no, we're on the side of common sense and we're just asking questions.
01:11:28.000She's doing like a neuro linguistic programming, if you will, trying to convince people that what she's saying is the actual truth.
01:11:34.000When you take words and you use them like FedSlop and things like that, there's an entire program in the United States military called psychological operations.
01:11:42.000Do you know what I'm talking about there?
01:11:44.000And it exists for a reason you have the physical battle space, and then you have the human terrain, right?
01:11:51.000And that human terrain is the one that they're trying to win here by warping people's minds.
01:11:56.000So that maybe they can come out on top, maybe just maybe.
01:11:59.000And maybe if they don't win the court case, but they end up getting sued at the end of the day, maybe they've polluted that jury pool, you know, in there because they're going to lose, you know, at the end of the day with everything that goes out.
01:13:10.000I've seen Kyle push disinformation a lot, a lot of disinformation, and it's actually really troubling.
01:13:15.000So, yeah, it's easily believable in this case that Kyle Seraphim is pushing out disinformation.
01:13:20.000Claiming he ended up getting kicked out of the FBI because he refused to take the COVID vaccine.
01:13:24.000And then we've got plenty of public records that state that the reason he ended up getting kicked out is because he was on a gun range one day and he ended up shooting while his instructor was downraged and he thought it was a joke, right?
01:13:37.000And so even if that's the case and he's trolling, he's making a joke, I'm still looking at it as the guy's a disinformation propagandist and he's got shot down anyways.
01:13:45.000All right, we're going to play a little Graham Allen footage because he was there in the courtroom when this footage was shown originally in the courtroom.
01:13:55.000The footage shows a person on the roof performing, as she calls it, a deliberate lateral, quote, military style crawl in a prone shooting position.
01:14:04.000I would say it looks like anybody trying not to be seen on a roof crawling around.
01:14:11.000On the same episode yesterday, Candace stated that the clear footage came from the source she called, quote, good people in the government, and that her team had been holding it slash sitting on that material since October of 2025, if she is to be believed.
01:14:28.000Means she possessed stronger visual evidence of a rooftop, even if she calls it an actor or a trained military person.
01:14:37.000For the majority of the period, she was publicly promoting theories that downplayed or denied that it even existed in the first place.
01:14:47.000Yeah, I mean, I missed the day for the lateral crawl in sniper school, ranger school, special forces training, loan operator course.
01:14:52.000I mean, I could keep going, it just doesn't exist.
01:16:07.000Once again, I'm not sure what the significance is, but there was a flash that's visible in this footage on the rooftop, and you were trying to ascertain what it is.
01:16:15.000So, what was the flash in your estimation?
01:16:18.000Yeah, in my opinion, it's a vehicle that could be seen driving through the background.
01:16:21.000I mean, you go trace it from the right side of the screen as you're viewing it, as it approaches, as it kind of like travels through these little trees and then pops and then goes.
01:16:29.000And catches the reflection of the sun, basically.
01:17:27.000No, nor would you actually see the body jump.
01:17:30.000He weighs, I don't even know how much, but let's just assume he's like about the size of this tiny female, which he looks like 115, 120 pounds, laying all straight in line directly behind that rifle.
01:17:43.000That little bit of kick that that rifle has isn't going to cause a massive jump in his body to the point where everybody's going to end up seeing it on that low quality video.
01:17:51.000You might notice on very high quality video, his body maybe, you know, maybe just a tiny little bit, but highly unlikely.
01:17:59.000In that situation, you know, he is so zeroed in and he's never done anything like this before.
01:18:19.000Well, I will say, you know, I spoke with Jack Posobiec.
01:18:23.000You know, he was again in the courtroom.
01:18:26.000Much has been made of their description of what they saw, but Jack's adamant that in the enhanced video that you can see in the courtroom, that he saw a flinch, some sort of movement at the time of the shot.
01:18:36.000So, you know, he got one chance to look at it.
01:18:40.000It's not like he could run it back and rewind, fast forward, rewind, fast forward.
01:18:50.000So, to sum it all up, we've got a video that we know was shown in court or some version of it that was shown in court.
01:18:59.000We've got a guy on a rooftop crawling into a prone position, taking the shot, or at least presumably.
01:19:08.000We are not getting the video from just moments before from a different angle of him crawling over the railing, assembling the rifle.
01:19:15.000Got the timestamp was not included, but we know the timestamp in the courtroom lined up exactly when Charlie was shot 12 23 28.
01:19:23.000Got him running off the building, jumping off.
01:19:27.000I don't know what's new here or what it proves, especially since the surveillance footage from just moments before him making his way up to the rooftop is footage that Lance Twiggs himself identified as Tyler Robinson wearing the same outfit that he would ultimately take the shot.
01:19:47.000I'm at a loss for why this was a big bombshell.
01:19:50.000Nevertheless, thank you for helping us unpack it, Matt.
01:19:57.000You know, like if I have a feeling that at this point, even if Tyler Robinson wore a GoPro the entire time and had a scope cam and filmed the entire thing and put it out, that they would still deny it and say it's Fed slop and that it's a massage narrative or find somebody new to blame on this.
01:20:12.000You are never going to get a straight answer out of them.
01:20:15.000They are financially invested in keeping this narrative running.
01:20:19.000They're saying that they're searching for the truth, but they're not because it's busy biting them in the butt while they're busy ignoring it.
01:20:29.000The burden of proof that they seem to be.
01:20:33.000Invest so invested in is so extraordinarily high.
01:20:37.000It's so much higher for the actual evidence that was presented in court than any of their alternative theories that they presented to their audiences.
01:20:44.000They have zero burden of proof apparently on their side of the ledger, but with what the state has, which is very it's an avalanche of a mosaic of pieces of evidence, including DNA, including surveillance video, including cell phone video, including multiple confessions.
01:21:05.000It's the burden of proof is so high when you just try and look at common sense evidence.
01:21:12.000I'm genuinely, I spent this morning, Matt, genuinely trying to just like give a generous thought towards what was presented and what they were claiming it proved.
01:21:24.000And I just couldn't, you know, wrap my brain around it.
01:21:28.000Like they're going to claim that that guy didn't actually take a shot.
01:21:31.000It wasn't actually Tyler Robinson, that was some Patsy.
01:21:34.000And that the shock came from somewhere.
01:21:53.000Do you think it's odd that Candace Owens magically got this video after she just returned from Russia and now she has it after she made an appearance on RT and visited a Russian state sponsored event?
01:22:13.000Her family fishing trip turned into pushing false narratives about the Ukraine war on Russia television and visiting a Russian state sponsored event via a nonprofit organization that's heavily funded by the government.
01:22:28.000And yet she was going on a family fishing trip.
01:22:30.000And now all of a sudden, she's got this magical video that appears really, really crappy in quality.