The Charlie Kirk Show - The Ukraine Calamity and Facebook Files with Rep. Jim Jordan

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, Tan the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:00:01.000 Public opinion on the Ukraine war has changed and moved dramatically from 7% to 55%.

00:00:07.000 And Congressman Jim Jordan joins us to talk about the recent revelations that show the censorship regime the Biden administration has been deploying on the American people.

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00:00:31.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:01:14.000 For the last, boy, 16 months, we have taken some pretty serious stances on this program.

00:01:22.000 Basically, from the first day, we had an heterodox and contrarian take on the Ukraine-Russia conflict.

00:01:32.000 We made really no mystery about our stance.

00:01:35.000 We said Putin should not have invaded Russia, but Zelensky's not a good guy.

00:01:39.000 And we were attacked from every possible direction.

00:01:42.000 In fact, I remember producer Andrew and I were traveling east when we arrived at CPAC in Florida.

00:01:51.000 And I said something on the stage of CPAC where I said, what's happening on our southern border is far more important than what's happening in Ukraine.

00:01:58.000 I was called a Putin stooge because I refused to repeat the mindless incantation of the warmongers.

00:02:06.000 We must support all wars all the time.

00:02:09.000 You see, on this program, we have really grown accustomed to when the intel agencies, the corporations, and when the quite honestly evil people, the Marxists, the globalists, want us to believe something so forcefully.

00:02:26.000 Now, we've been conditioned, whether it be the mRNA vaccine, masks, lockdowns, ivermectin, where did the virus come from?

00:02:34.000 BLM, America's a racist country, St. George Floyd is the greatest person ever, to resist. 1.00

00:02:40.000 On this program, we have developed rather effective antibodies to the virus of media narratives.

00:02:48.000 We can pick it out, we notice it, and we oppose it.

00:02:53.000 Great credit to Tucker Carlson, who used his cable television program to relentlessly question the media's obsession with Ukraine.

00:03:03.000 Now, make no mistake, a majority of Republicans, as well as a majority of Democrats have been unapologetic mascots for the war in Ukraine.

00:03:17.000 We have now spent over $200 billion.

00:03:19.000 Senate Republicans have enthusiastically sent your taxpayer dollars while our kids can't read.

00:03:26.000 Our borders remain wide open.

00:03:28.000 Our infrastructure is a joke.

00:03:30.000 Our economy is falling apart.

00:03:33.000 We're developing a nation of renters, but we just keep on sending money abroad.

00:03:38.000 I found this thing to be repulsive since the beginning.

00:03:40.000 You can go all the way back in the archives.

00:03:43.000 We knew what was going to happen.

00:03:45.000 We knew that the intel agencies, the Department of Defense, were going to just send American taxpayer dollars overseas to another no-win war.

00:03:56.000 How do we know that?

00:03:57.000 We know that because we study history, and I lived through Iraq. 0.98

00:04:00.000 I lived through Afghanistan, and I used to believe this trash. 1.00

00:04:03.000 I used to believe in the neocon promise. 0.93

00:04:07.000 Just one more war, one more surge, one more allocation of money, and that is what is going to make the Iraqis believe in the promise of Thomas Jefferson. 0.99

00:04:21.000 It's trash. 0.99

00:04:23.000 It's baseless. 0.99

00:04:24.000 And the same mindset is now being used with Ukraine.

00:04:30.000 Now, we're going to go through this and talk about how American public opinion has positively moved.

00:04:39.000 And this program deserves a lot of credit.

00:04:42.000 We have been unapologetic in questioning the money of Ukraine.

00:04:48.000 We've asked questions on this program.

00:04:50.000 Why do we hate Russia?

00:04:53.000 And we never get a good answer.

00:04:56.000 I'm not saying we have to like them, but why do we hate them?

00:04:56.000 Ever.

00:05:00.000 Why are they an enemy of the United States?

00:05:04.000 And so for the last 18 months, America has now sent $200 billion to this conflict in Ukraine.

00:05:15.000 Money is one thing, but the amount of people that have unnecessarily died in this war, it's tragic.

00:05:24.000 I believe that the numbers are far greater than what they're reporting.

00:05:28.000 This war was so unnecessary.

00:05:30.000 Russia did not attack out of nowhere.

00:05:33.000 Russia repeatedly was asking us to negotiate over the Ukraine question.

00:05:39.000 They didn't send an ultimatum.

00:05:41.000 They asked to negotiate.

00:05:43.000 Their requests were not insane.

00:05:45.000 They didn't demand massive new territorial gains.

00:05:48.000 They wanted a promise that Ukraine would not join NATO.

00:05:53.000 By the way, that's a completely reasonable request.

00:05:57.000 The media is going to lose their mind that I'm saying that.

00:06:00.000 It is a completely reasonable request on behalf of the Kremlin to not want to border a NATO country.

00:06:09.000 They wanted to know that there would not be weapons right on the border.

00:06:12.000 And by the way, this example was used by Cornell West.

00:06:16.000 It's been used by Oliver Stone.

00:06:18.000 It's been used by this program.

00:06:21.000 If Mexico was building up military installations with our greatest enemies, we would have a problem with that.

00:06:31.000 And yet, and by the way, we'd probably invade, well, I don't know.

00:06:35.000 It's interesting.

00:06:36.000 We actually don't really care about invasions of our own country, but our government leaders get so fired up about foreign invasions.

00:06:47.000 So this all leads up to this now Ukraine counteroffensive.

00:06:51.000 It was the worst kept secret in the entire world.

00:06:53.000 It was broadcast for months.

00:06:55.000 The hype was enormous.

00:06:58.000 There was zero misdirection or mystery about where Ukraine would attack.

00:07:02.000 All the reporting was that they were building up for an attack in the south to try and cut the land connection between Russia and Crimea.

00:07:09.000 Crimea, I could go through the geography of it, but this is not an overly sophisticated military maneuver.

00:07:15.000 That's where all of Russia's toughest defenses were built up.

00:07:18.000 And that's exactly where Ukraine attacked with all the tanks and armored vehicles we gave them and we financed them.

00:07:26.000 Now here's a little fun fact.

00:07:27.000 There was a battle in World War II very similar to this.

00:07:30.000 It's the Battle of Kursk in 1943.

00:07:33.000 The Germans built up for months to attack the strongest parts of the Russian line.

00:07:37.000 And here's what happened to the Germans.

00:07:40.000 They got demolished.

00:07:41.000 So what happened to Ukraine?

00:07:42.000 What's happening in real time?

00:07:44.000 Here are some of the headlines from the major propaganda networks the last couple months.

00:07:50.000 Quote, Russians are unraveling before our eyes. 1.00

00:07:52.000 This is Ukraine's D-Day.

00:07:54.000 Ukraine's claims first gains, if slight, in counteroffensive.

00:07:59.000 But then you slowly watch the headlines, it got worse and worse.

00:08:03.000 Our news networks are lying to you.

00:08:06.000 They are doing the bidding of the war machine.

00:08:10.000 And now we finally get a form of the truth.

00:08:13.000 CNN publishes this article.

00:08:16.000 Western allies receive increasingly sober updates on Ukraine's counteroffensive.

00:08:21.000 This is the most difficult time of the war.

00:08:25.000 The headline really undersells it.

00:08:27.000 By the way, we are not getting the truth about what's happening.

00:08:29.000 It is a slaughter fest. 0.96

00:08:31.000 Ukraines are getting slaughtered here. 1.00

00:08:34.000 And for what?

00:08:36.000 So that our war industry can turn a good profit?

00:08:42.000 This is so evil, what the American government is doing here.

00:08:46.000 Not seeking out peace, not trying to end the conflict, but instead increase the temperature, increase the carnage, increase the slaughter.

00:08:58.000 Ukraine's offensive is extremely unlikely now to make any progress.

00:09:03.000 The text of the article now says that losses for Ukraine haven't been high, they've been staggering.

00:09:09.000 They say that Ukrainian commanders have held units back from battle just to try and make sure they have some forces left when it's all over.

00:09:17.000 One senior Western diplomat admits that it's extremely highly unlikely that Ukraine makes any notable gains.

00:09:23.000 Now think for a bit.

00:09:24.000 The media has been almost 100% in the tank for Ukraine and Zelensky this entire conflict.

00:09:31.000 They've trumpeted nearly every victory and they've papered over and mitigated every setback.

00:09:36.000 So for CNN to finally read an article like this, just how bad are things?

00:09:40.000 The answer?

00:09:41.000 It's almost certainly a total catastrophe.

00:09:45.000 Our leaders egged on Ukraine into making a big offensive and they got thousands of brave Ukrainians killed.

00:09:54.000 And now Zelensky says, we blame America and Western allies for this loss.

00:09:59.000 Give us more money.

00:10:02.000 The good news is you, the American people, are not putting up with this.

00:10:05.000 You've had enough.

00:10:07.000 It might be 18 months late, but the American people are waking up and we're going to talk about it.

00:10:12.000 And then I'm going to explain the best I can how the modern war works because it's actually not war.

00:10:19.000 Unfortunately, it's a theater of slaughter and killing for backwards upside down crony capitalist money laundering so our elites can get rich while soldiers needlessly die in no win scenarios.

00:10:35.000 When we started our program, we received when the Ukraine-Russia war began, we received so many negative emails.

00:10:44.000 Not so many anymore.

00:10:45.000 Even the Ukraine enthusiasts, which we get an email every so often, they're a little bit watered down.

00:10:50.000 They're like, yeah, this is not really going the way we wanted it to.

00:10:54.000 But we stake out tough positions because we understand history.

00:10:57.000 We are not owned by corporate masters.

00:11:00.000 I really don't care about attack articles about being a Putin stooge.

00:11:04.000 It doesn't bother me at all.

00:11:07.000 Same thing with the vaccine and BLM, and I'm going to actually connect all this. 0.99

00:11:11.000 When we started our program, only 7% of the American people were against sending money to Ukraine.

00:11:22.000 Seven.

00:11:23.000 I was one of those seven.

00:11:25.000 Lived through Iraq, lived through Afghanistan.

00:11:28.000 I know the degenerate activity that has infected our military and our Department of Defense.

00:11:34.000 I trust our government so little when they say that we're going to go help foreign governments.

00:11:40.000 I know exactly what they mean.

00:11:41.000 They want to get paid.

00:11:43.000 They want to have money sent overseas in a no-win war.

00:11:47.000 It's the same behavior that we see domestically.

00:11:52.000 If you study even a little bit about who Zelensky is, how he came to power, go talk to actual Ukrainians who lived under, have lived under Zelensky.

00:12:02.000 They're not fans of his.

00:12:03.000 Now, Zelensky is a CIA Western intelligence puppet, literally centrally cast.

00:12:10.000 He's an actor playing a part so that Western allies can feel good about pushing back against Russian aggression, of which I will keep on repeating: why do we hate Russia?

00:12:23.000 I'm not saying we have to like Russia.

00:12:25.000 Why do we hate them?

00:12:26.000 Why should they be an enemy of the United States?

00:12:28.000 How is that in our national interest?

00:12:32.000 So, 7% of Americans, when we first started our commentary on this program, said we're against aid to Ukraine.

00:12:43.000 Now that number is 55%.

00:12:47.000 A majority of Americans of all political stripes say this thing has gotten out of control.

00:12:54.000 The Overton window has moved from 7% to 55%.

00:12:59.000 I want to encourage you, I want to thank those of you that saw this clearly early on, that saw exactly what our government was doing.

00:13:06.000 Our government was lying to you the same way that the government lied about the mostly peaceful riots and domestic terrorism Antifa and BLM, the same government that lied about the mRNA shot, that lied about masks, that lied about the Hunter Biden laptop.

00:13:27.000 The media has been 100% in the tank for Zelensky.

00:13:32.000 100% in the tank.

00:13:35.000 Never telling the other side of the story.

00:13:37.000 And we are told there is no other side of the story.

00:13:39.000 That's how you know you are living through an Operation Mockingbird-created simulation.

00:13:45.000 There's no other side of the story.

00:13:47.000 It's binary.

00:13:48.000 It's good versus evil. 0.97

00:13:50.000 Zelensky is the best person ever, and Putin is the worst person ever.

00:13:57.000 I want to read this from the New York Times: quote: The first several weeks of Ukraine's long-awaited counteroffensive have not been kind to the Ukrainian troops who were trained and armed by the United States and its allies.

00:14:10.000 We did this.

00:14:12.000 This is one of the most immoral things our government has done in the last 90 days.

00:14:16.000 And our government does a lot of stuff. 0.53

00:14:17.000 Keeps our border wide open, allows kids to get raped, sex trafficked, fentanyl, opioids.

00:14:23.000 Our government, in a lackluster way, trained Ukrainians that wanted to fight for their country and sent them on a suicide mission against better equipped, better-trained Russian forces. 0.96

00:14:40.000 Our government did that.

00:14:42.000 And Republicans support it.

00:14:46.000 Almost every single Republican senator, absent a few, Josh Hawley, Rand Paul, and Mike Lee, still think the Ukraine thing all in, as they would say. 0.99

00:14:57.000 The Republican Party is still largely infected with neoconservative trash. 0.97

00:15:06.000 This toxin that we are going to save the world from itself. 0.99

00:15:10.000 Just another 200 billion, another 300 billion.

00:15:13.000 Do you understand how much money 200 billion is?

00:15:16.000 That is four North Dakota GDPs.

00:15:20.000 Four.

00:15:21.000 Do you think that money could have been better spent on securing the southern border?

00:15:25.000 Senate Republicans wouldn't be bothered about that.

00:15:27.000 Do you think that money could be better spent on building charter schools for kids that can't read?

00:15:33.000 Do you think that money could be better spent?

00:15:35.000 I don't know, paying down our national debt or deficit.

00:15:38.000 We are a debtor nation.

00:15:39.000 We are $31 trillion in debt.

00:15:42.000 We have just been downgraded by the rating agencies.

00:15:45.000 And the priority of our Senate leadership and Senate Republicans is to go fund a no-win war, a slaughterfest, a suicide mission against better trained, better equipped Russian forces. 0.53

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00:17:03.000 Joining us now is Congressman Jim Jordan, who's been on a mission to uncover the illegal, unconstitutional censorship regime that has been stifling conservative speech.

00:17:14.000 Congressman, thank you for taking time.

00:17:18.000 The headline is, Facebook files part four shows FBI censorship liaison may have perjured himself.

00:17:24.000 That's just one element here of the story.

00:17:27.000 Let's start more macro, Congressman.

00:17:29.000 What have you learned recently in regards to the federal government censorship regime?

00:17:33.000 No, again, Charlie, good to be with you.

00:17:35.000 Thanks for all you do.

00:17:36.000 In the big picture, the government was coercing, pressuring big tech to censor speech.

00:17:42.000 And the folks at Facebook knew it.

00:17:44.000 One of the executives even said that this is encroaching on the boundaries of free expression, but they did it because they wanted to keep a cozy relationship with the Biden administration.

00:17:54.000 One of the requests was even, one of the requests was even, can you change your algorithm?

00:17:59.000 This is the government, Rob Flaherty at the White House and the Biden administration.

00:18:02.000 Can you change your algorithm to accentuate and highlight New York Times stories and suppress and downgrade stories from the Daily Wire, Tommy Lehrer, and other conservatives across?

00:18:15.000 That's correct.

00:18:15.000 I mean, you felt this person.

00:18:16.000 They come after you too and Tucker and other folks.

00:18:19.000 Yeah, so but literally, the government trying to tell a private company, change your algorithm so that we can get the news that the state, that the government approves of, not anything, not news that may be contradicting or criticizing the positions of the Biden administration.

00:18:40.000 Unbelievable.

00:18:41.000 I believe there's going to be legal challenges, including from our own show, Department of Homeland Security.

00:18:47.000 We are there because the government is not allowed either by proxy or themselves to stifle the First Amendment liberties of citizens.

00:18:55.000 But, Congressman, this has not been an easy effort.

00:18:57.000 You had to threaten a potential contempt of Congress vote of Mark Zuckerberg.

00:19:03.000 Facebook has been very reluctant to hand over these files.

00:19:07.000 Walk us through some of that because it took a little bit of potential force, if you will, to actually pressure is a better word, to get them to comply.

00:19:17.000 Yeah, they wouldn't turn over the internal communications.

00:19:19.000 We wanted exactly what Elon Musk made available on Twitter or NowX, the internal communications that showed the kind of pressure that was coming from the government.

00:19:27.000 So we had the Twitter files because Elon Musk bought Twitter and allowed good journalists, actually Democrat journalists like Matt Taibby and Michael Schellenberger to put that information out there and others.

00:19:40.000 And then we wanted the same thing for Facebook and they kept stonewalling us.

00:19:42.000 And finally, we said, okay, if you're not going to turn it over, we're going to hold you in contempt.

00:19:46.000 And then Shazam, they decided to give us his document.

00:19:48.000 And Matt Taibbi himself said what we got from Facebook was even worse than what they uncovered in the Twitter files, what was going on in Twitter, the level of how we find out that it looks like Mr. Chan may have not have been completely straightforward during his deposition in the Missouri case,

00:20:06.000 the case that was the Missouri and Louisiana case, where he said that he had one communication with Facebook on October 14th, 2020, the day that the New York Post story came out about the Biden laptop.

00:20:19.000 And it turns out he had another communication the next day.

00:20:22.000 And in that communication, he talks about the fact that the FBI, that he was up to speed on the FBI investigation, and they had no evidence.

00:20:29.000 This is key, no evidence that the Biden laptop story was a Russian information operation, as they allowed Twitter and Facebook to believe, and it actually kind of pre-bunked the whole idea that this story was going to come out, which I think is really significant.

00:20:46.000 And frankly, that is probably the biggest election interference in the 2020 presidential race is the idea that this story was suppressed.

00:20:55.000 And then, of course, the 51 Intel formatted.

00:20:58.000 I think an important letter, Congressman, is how willing was Facebook to participate in this?

00:21:06.000 Because based on everything I've seen and public reports, Facebook was almost forced by the federal government to do this and or threatened.

00:21:13.000 From what I can understand, Mark Zuckerberg received massive fury from the Democrat and Uniparty regime post-2016.

00:21:22.000 In fact, most people looked at Facebook and social media companies as why we got Donald Trump, Cambridge Analytica, the algorithms.

00:21:29.000 And so Zuckerberg was under this massive pressure.

00:21:32.000 You might remember he was called to testify in front of the Senate, which was a joke because half the senators were like asking him how to log into their phone.

00:21:38.000 I'm half kidding.

00:21:39.000 It was just, it was not exactly a tech-savvy hearing.

00:21:43.000 However, Zuckerberg then received FTC lawsuits and pressures of breakup and monopoly threats and DOJ antitrust stuff.

00:21:50.000 And then Mark Zuckerberg goes on Joe Rogan last August and reveals the FBI was making house visits saying, hey, by the way, there might be a Russian disinformation play, which of course was, hey, you better do what we tell you to do or else these antitrust stuff might not work out.

00:22:05.000 Can you just kind of give us a little bit of a window into Facebook's mentality here?

00:22:10.000 No.

00:22:12.000 No, I think you're right.

00:22:14.000 Now, I also think that folks at Facebook were, there's a lot of people who leaned to the left and wanted to do this, you wanted to keep conservative speech and suppress conservative speech.

00:22:24.000 So I think he had all that going on, but there was certainly this pressure campaign put on him.

00:22:29.000 I think many of them were willing to go along with it.

00:22:31.000 And we know they were willing to go along with it because they did.

00:22:36.000 And they did it knowing that it was an attack on the First Amendment.

00:22:39.000 Nick Clay, one of the executives, said that.

00:22:41.000 So it wasn't just like, oh, poor Facebook.

00:22:43.000 They were being pressured, certainly, by the government, certainly.

00:22:48.000 But I think they were, in many ways, willing participants in making it tough for President Trump and for conservatives.

00:22:57.000 Now, understand in October of 2020, Elvis Chan had talked about this, and so had Yoel Roth at Twitter.

00:23:06.000 They talked about on a weekly basis, big tech met with the FBI and other people in the government.

00:23:13.000 They were told to be on the lookout for a hack and leak operation in October that would likely involve Hunter Biden.

00:23:19.000 So they prepped them for what was coming.

00:23:22.000 And it's like, how did the FBI know this was going to happen?

00:23:25.000 Well, of course they knew because they had the laptop for a year prior to that.

00:23:28.000 So they prepped him all along.

00:23:29.000 Then when it comes public, they know it's not Russian information operation.

00:23:34.000 They know it's not a Russian operation.

00:23:36.000 But when they're asked directly by Twitter and by Facebook, the FBI says no comment.

00:23:42.000 That is how, I mean, you talk about impacting an election.

00:23:45.000 And we will never know to the extent the aggressive language that was used by the FBI in some of these meetings with Yoel Roth.

00:23:52.000 We can infer they had standing appointments.

00:23:55.000 And it's important to remember, Mark Zuckerberg also out of nowhere became this like massive enthusiast for mail and voting, $400 million for Center for Technology at Civic Life.

00:24:04.000 So it's very, it's clear, and it's hard to prove, but it's clear that Zuckerberg was malleable and Facebook was malleable because they were afraid the government was going to come down with a massive sword on them.

00:24:15.000 And they said, okay, okay, how can we make this good?

00:24:18.000 And somebody recommended, hey, $400 million, this nonprofit would help.

00:24:22.000 You know, working with the feds on suppressing speech would help.

00:24:26.000 And it very well could have been that Zuckbox's plus censorship was a make-good for 2016.

00:24:31.000 So, Congressman, are you at any place where you think that Facebook is now afraid of further censorship for the 2024 election?

00:24:41.000 Because right around the corner, Facebook controls a significant portion of chatter, both on Facebook and Instagram.

00:24:47.000 Do you think that their behavior has been corrected, or are you just getting more arrogance and trapdoors and half-truths from Facebook executives?

00:24:56.000 Well, I certainly hope the fact that we've shown a lot, you know, put some sunlight on this and some sunshine on this, I think that's made a difference.

00:25:05.000 And of course, we know that we have someone who believes in the First Amendment who now owns X, who now owns Twitter.

00:25:12.000 So that's a huge step in the right direction when you talk about free expression in the public forum.

00:25:18.000 So I hope it's making a difference.

00:25:19.000 And we also know it's making a difference.

00:25:21.000 For example, two and a half weeks ago, the IRS announced they will no longer be sending agents out to Americans' doors unannounced.

00:25:30.000 I think the only reason they made that change is because what we uncovered with them knocking on Matt Taibbi's door at the very moment he was testifying in front of our committee about this whole censorship operation.

00:25:42.000 And I think we made such a big deal about that that they changed their tune.

00:25:46.000 Of course, now the FBI doesn't say that.

00:25:47.000 They say, oh, we're concerned about our agent's safety.

00:25:49.000 Well, fine.

00:25:50.000 But I think that what motivated that fundamental change there was we have brought this to America's attention.

00:25:58.000 We're also working on legislation with Senator Paul that would say if you're involved in pressuring and censoring American speech, that there will be consequences.

00:26:10.000 You will lose your job.

00:26:11.000 You can lose your pension.

00:26:12.000 You can use your security clearance.

00:26:14.000 And the citizens who've been aggrieved have a chance to bring a civil action against that individual who's limiting Americans' First Amendment free speech rights.

00:26:22.000 So that's legislation we think we'll bring forward to you.

00:26:25.000 I think all this helps to actually get the free forum that we all thought this was supposed to be some time ago.

00:26:32.000 Right now, there's been a pause on the contempt vote.

00:26:36.000 Are you at a place where you're getting what you desire from Facebook?

00:26:40.000 Oh, yeah, it continues.

00:26:41.000 That's why we keep releasing these Facebook files because we, again, want to highlight how serious it was.

00:26:47.000 As I said earlier, Matt Taibbi, award-winning journalist who was part of uncovering all the things that were going on on Twitter and the Twitter files, said that what he sees here is in many ways worse than what was uncovered in the Twitter files, and we know how bad that was.

00:27:00.000 So, yeah, we're getting the information, and we're just going to keep doing our jobs in conversation.

00:27:07.000 Thank you so much.

00:27:08.000 You bet, Charlie.

00:27:09.000 You too.

00:27:10.000 Take care.

00:27:10.000 Thank you.

00:27:12.000 Unraveling the censorship regime is one of the most important things happening right now.

00:27:16.000 And my fear is that it's actively happening.

00:27:20.000 I try to remind people that looking back is instructive, but we must understand that it's currently happening as well.

00:27:30.000 You look at the main issues: BLM and the race lies, vaccine and COVID and lockdowns, Ukraine. 0.87

00:27:36.000 Those are kind of the three big propaganda narratives.

00:27:39.000 One, two, three.

00:27:40.000 COVID, race, war.

00:27:43.000 Really, if you look at it, healthcare and scientism, race politics, and war.

00:27:49.000 Those three things, this will be my segue to the next topic, which ties in with Congressman Jim Jordan.

00:27:55.000 We are able to move more, and I'd put trans surgeries as number four. 0.97

00:27:59.000 Every single one of those has actually moved in a reasonable direction versus where it was a couple years ago.

00:28:06.000 I think one of the reasons is honestly thanks to Elon Musk.

00:28:09.000 We have one platform where we can speak freely.

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00:28:21.000 You know, people ask me, they say, Charlie, how do you keep your energy up?

00:28:24.000 How do you just keep on pushing?

00:28:26.000 Look, part of it is diet nutrition, but I'll be honest, I take supplements really seriously.

00:28:31.000 Fact check me on this.

00:28:32.000 You can say, oh, Trump, I'm going to fact-check you.

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00:28:36.000 Maybe it's Google, maybe not.

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00:28:41.000 What does it tell you?

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00:28:47.000 Well, all of that is being proven in more and more clinical trials.

00:28:50.000 NADH is a precursor so that your mitochondria can remain healthy and vibrant.

00:28:56.000 The elites, a lot of billionaires, people with a lot of money, they spend a ton of money on NAD.

00:29:00.000 It's a fact.

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00:29:04.000 I take NAD every single day.

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00:29:13.000 Don't take my word for it, but I mean, honestly, my word should be good for something.

00:29:16.000 But fact-check me.

00:29:17.000 Look at it.

00:29:18.000 And if you do it over 30 days, you'll see an increase in energy.

00:29:21.000 I wake up better than ever before.

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00:30:01.000 There's a fair amount of black pilling.

00:30:03.000 That's a phrase where you think everything's terrible, everything's awful, nothing can get better.

00:30:07.000 That happens in the conservative movement.

00:30:09.000 But let's think.

00:30:11.000 What have been the main priorities of the regime?

00:30:14.000 The COVID, lockdown, masks, vaccine.

00:30:18.000 They've completely lost that one.

00:30:19.000 Public opinion moved.

00:30:21.000 How about race politics?

00:30:23.000 We started with BLM basically being the state-run religion for an entire summer.

00:30:29.000 And after 60 or 90 days of pushing back on it, the Overton window moved on that.

00:30:33.000 And race politics, not only does it not work, but they tried it again with that subway incident with Jordan Neely.

00:30:39.000 It was dead on arrival.

00:30:40.000 Wall Street Journal a couple days later says, nope, actually, we're not falling for it. 0.99

00:30:44.000 That shows that there is a far better atmosphere to reject this garbage. 0.92

00:30:50.000 Ukraine, 7% of Americans were against sending money to Ukraine. 0.99

00:30:55.000 Now 55% are.

00:30:57.000 I largely think this is because of the emergence of Rumble, Real America's Voice, AM radio, podcasting, having Elon liberate Twitter.

00:31:06.000 There is now a thriving ecosystem of independent news.

00:31:12.000 And this is a massive threat to the regime.

00:31:14.000 They are not able to continue to propagate lies the way they used to.

00:31:18.000 We get to ask questions.

00:31:19.000 We get to notice patterns.

00:31:20.000 We get to see inconsistencies.

00:31:22.000 CBS, ABC, NBC, PBS, they don't do any of that, obviously, but their market share is going down.

00:31:28.000 Podcasts like Megan Kelly are moving the overton windows significantly and successfully on the trans issue.

00:31:34.000 Dan Bongino is doing an amazing job continuing keeping the pressure on the intel agency spying on Americans.

00:31:42.000 This new ecosystem of news gives me hope.

00:31:47.000 The conservative movement is at our Turning Point Action Conference.

00:31:51.000 95% of our attendees said we're done with this Ukraine thing and you should be done with it. 1.00

00:31:56.000 You're being lied to.

00:31:57.000 If you're in support of the Ukraine thing, then you probably also believe America is a systemically racist country because it's the same people who have a pattern of lying, covering up the truth, and manipulating you.

00:32:08.000 They do not pushing this for the right reasons.

00:32:14.000 Now, as if he was going to persuade people, they deploy Chris Christie on a PR tour.

00:32:21.000 This is a typical neocon talking point.

00:32:27.000 It is banal.

00:32:29.000 It is shallow.

00:32:31.000 Well, if we don't stop them here, then we're going to have American troops in Taiwan. 0.96

00:32:35.000 This is the same talking point they used in Vietnam.

00:32:38.000 The same failed talking point they used in Iraq and Afghanistan.

00:32:42.000 You are not safer because we engage in multi-decade no-win wars.

00:32:48.000 You're actually in more danger.

00:32:50.000 In fact, there is far more danger to you and your grandchildren happening right now on the southern border than anything that Russia is doing. 0.91

00:32:58.000 It's not even close.

00:33:00.000 Don't fall for the mainstream narrative.

00:33:02.000 Stop accepting the lies.

00:33:05.000 So, Chris Christie, again, if I were to give some advice to Chris Christie, stop talking about big and large, big and large, big issues, small issues.

00:33:15.000 I mean, this is a guy that makes Lizzo look skinny, and he's talking about big.

00:33:19.000 He takes up the whole screen.

00:33:20.000 It's not exactly, it doesn't work.

00:33:21.000 Play cut 37.

00:33:23.000 One of the points of my campaign, guys, is that America has never been great by being small.

00:33:29.000 And right now, in elements of my party and in the elements, some elements of the Democratic Party, we are arguing over what I consider to be small issues.

00:33:37.000 They're not unimportant, but they're small.

00:33:40.000 The big issues that we have to deal with, and one of them is American leadership around the world.

00:33:46.000 Those issues are what makes America bigger, stronger, richer, freer.

00:33:52.000 So he believes firmly that our involvement in Ukraine is the most important thing that's happening.

00:34:00.000 In fact, he's telling you the fact that we've spent $220 billion that it's not enough.

00:34:06.000 Southern border, who cares?

00:34:07.000 Fentanyl overdoses, who cares?

00:34:09.000 Kids can't read?

00:34:10.000 Not a problem.

00:34:11.000 $31 trillion in debt?

00:34:13.000 Do not care.

00:34:15.000 Instead, this is the neoliberal neocon position.

00:34:18.000 It's a compromised position.

00:34:20.000 It is an infatuation with a cancerous ideology of colonizing the world, invading the world, and inviting the world.

00:34:28.000 You have grown poorer.

00:34:29.000 Your grandkids are in a far more dangerous situation because of this ideology.

00:34:35.000 Play cut 40.

00:34:37.000 We heard a lot of support.

00:34:40.000 Two-thirds of the audience that I had was very supportive of my position on Ukraine, which is that we haven't done enough.

00:34:47.000 Okay, so Chris Christie, a little advice.

00:34:50.000 When you talk about a crowd of eight people, six of which are on the board of Raytheon, don't, it's not awfully persuading on a television interview.

00:34:57.000 You know, I was in a boardroom with six Raytheon people, and two-thirds of the room really supported.

00:35:04.000 How about this, Chris Christie?

00:35:05.000 95% of the Republican base at the Turning Point Action Conference think you're wrong.

00:35:10.000 Think that your position is untenable.

00:35:12.000 It's a globalist position.

00:35:15.000 And it's inconsistent with what will keep America strong.

00:35:20.000 Why is Ukraine in our national interest? 0.84

00:35:23.000 Can anybody tell me?

00:35:24.000 In fact, you know, one person emailed me and they say, quote, Charlie, there is no limit on how much money we should spend to Ukraine.

00:35:30.000 We should do whatever is necessary.

00:35:32.000 When we do less than that, it gives people ammunition to say that America fights endless wars.

00:35:36.000 That just makes zero sense.

00:35:39.000 But you understand, it's the same way where they say wear masks while you're alone in your bathroom.

00:35:46.000 There is no rational argument to keep on sending money to Ukraine, to a no-win war, to a suicide mission for brave Ukrainians that are getting mowed down by Russians. 0.69

00:35:55.000 And we were the one, we were the government that poked the Russian bear. 0.98

00:35:59.000 Remember, it was Lady Graham and all of his friends, John McCain and Klobuchar, Snow Woman, that provoked this entire invasion. 0.81

00:36:07.000 Play Cut 43.

00:36:09.000 Your fight is our fight.

00:36:10.000 2017 will be the year of offense.

00:36:13.000 All of us will go back to Washington and we will push the case against Russia.

00:36:19.000 Enough of a Russian aggression. 0.90

00:36:21.000 It is time for them to pay a heavier price.

00:36:24.000 Yeah, pay a heavier price.

00:36:26.000 How would you act if Russia went to Mexico City with their senators and started talking like that?

00:36:33.000 46% of our country cannot get their hands on $400.

00:36:37.000 Are they resting easy that now the American government is on pace to spend $250 to $300 billion to foreign corrupt oligarchs in a no-win war, a slaughterfest, while Americans are poor?

00:36:49.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:36:51.000 Email us your thoughts.

00:36:51.000 As always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:36:54.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

00:36:58.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - August 08, 2023

The Ukraine Calamity and Facebook Files with Rep. Jim Jordan

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