The Charlie Kirk Show - THOUGHTCRIME: Clash of the Cabinet Edition

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00:01:23.000 Okay, everybody.

00:01:24.000 It is Thought Crime Thursday.

00:01:26.000 There's a lot of news happening here.

00:01:27.000 A little news, Charlie.

00:01:28.000 We got Jack in the same studio.

00:01:30.000 I think it's the first time since our events.

00:01:32.000 We also have Blake.

00:01:34.000 And who else do we have?

00:01:35.000 We have Tyler.

00:01:36.000 Tyler, the boyer.

00:01:38.000 The man.

00:01:40.000 Show him on the camera.

00:01:43.000 Can you hear us, Charlie?

00:01:44.000 Tyler's on a three-day water fast.

00:01:47.000 How's that going, Tyler?

00:01:48.000 By the time we finish today, I'll be over three days.

00:01:52.000 What's the longest you've gone?

00:01:54.000 This is the first time I've ever fasted for three days.

00:01:56.000 I've done seven days three times.

00:01:59.000 That's crazy.

00:02:00.000 I've never gone longer than that.

00:02:01.000 I have a friend whose wife did a full Jesus fast once for Lent, 40 days to water.

00:02:06.000 Wow.

00:02:06.000 That sounds terrifying.

00:02:08.000 So, yeah.

00:02:10.000 No, go ahead, Blake.

00:02:12.000 It's a pretty heady experience.

00:02:15.000 Have you gotten to the part where your blood pressure drops so going downstairs is difficult?

00:02:21.000 I think my blood pressure is so high over this election cycle that I now feel normal.

00:02:26.000 Okay, well, maybe that's good.

00:02:28.000 That was my experience.

00:02:29.000 I lived on the second floor of a building, and I would try to go walk down the steps.

00:02:34.000 I don't know what it is, but it's difficult to...

00:02:37.000 That's what I always associate with long fasts, is that it's weird to go down steps or even an escalator going down.

00:02:43.000 And then seven days is when you start feeling like, okay, this might be getting a little dramatic.

00:02:48.000 Yeah.

00:02:49.000 Charlie, how are things looking out there?

00:02:51.000 Things are looking great.

00:02:52.000 Jack, how are things looking out here?

00:02:54.000 We're doing very, very well.

00:02:55.000 The future is looking very, very bright.

00:02:57.000 Very, very bright indeed.

00:03:00.000 So I want to get everyone's reaction to the cabinet picks so far.

00:03:03.000 Jack, what are your thoughts?

00:03:05.000 I'm still not tired of winning.

00:03:08.000 We are reaching levels of winning that were previously not thought possible.

00:03:13.000 I mean, you take someone...

00:03:16.000 Obviously, the Matt Gaetz pick is huge.

00:03:19.000 It's taking up all the attention.

00:03:21.000 We'll talk about it.

00:03:21.000 But Tulsi Gabbard at DNI is very subversive, and I love that.

00:03:27.000 Because she's someone who went through the entire system of...

00:03:32.000 The military, having served in war, having served in combat, learned that the intelligence community, which I learned when I was there, shapes intelligence to fit their political goals, and then goes over and says, this is wrong.

00:03:45.000 They're clearly lying to policymakers.

00:03:48.000 When the intelligence gets to D.C., it all gets twisted to be whatever answer they want.

00:03:52.000 And then finally, she there served the answer.

00:03:54.000 And she can sit there now as the head of the entire intelligence community and tell them all to pound sand. 0.82

00:04:01.000 So I love it.

00:04:02.000 Notwithstanding, of course, the thermonuclear warhead of Matt Gaetz.

00:04:08.000 Yeah, so, I mean, what is your thoughts, Blake, on the cabinet selections so far?

00:04:14.000 We got Tulsi Gabbard, got Matt Gaetz.

00:04:17.000 Take your pick.

00:04:18.000 I feel like the one that really drives it home to me is actually Pete Hegseth for Secretary of Defense in that you'll have these strong reactions where people are saying, like, oh, this is shocking.

00:04:29.000 To me, what is shocking is the state of the defense establishment in the United States.

00:04:35.000 You have these phenomenally experienced people, you have people who've been around forever, and their track record is, okay, they invaded Iraq, that was a disaster. 0.97

00:04:44.000 They fought for 20 years in Afghanistan and the Taliban got stronger pretty much the entire time.

00:04:50.000 And then the government that we were propping up collapsed instantaneously.

00:04:54.000 They're fighting the Houthis in Yemen and losing to them.

00:04:58.000 They can't do basic things.

00:04:59.000 This is the stuff that gets very little coverage in public.

00:05:02.000 But, for example, we designed a thing called the Literal Combat Ship.

00:05:05.000 It's supposed to operate in shallow waters.

00:05:07.000 And it's basically a giant failure.

00:05:09.000 Just worthless.

00:05:10.000 Like, it is a ship for fighting in shallow waters, and it can't sail in shallow waters and can't fight.

00:05:16.000 Truly, cataclysmically bad.

00:05:18.000 And you'll get these reports, we can't really build ships anymore.

00:05:21.000 All the guys who know how to do it are retiring.

00:05:24.000 We're not getting new people in.

00:05:26.000 I think China's shipbuilding capacity at this point is like 100 or 200 times greater than ours.

00:05:32.000 We sent five or six years of weapons production to the Ukraine.

00:05:36.000 We can't scale it up.

00:05:38.000 We need all of our chips from China still.

00:05:40.000 All of these things are happening in the defense establishment.

00:05:43.000 And then they're mad because we picked a guy who they're like, oh, he's a TV host.

00:05:47.000 Okay, yeah, he's also a smart guy who is a veteran of the military, and he has a pretty good resume all across the board, and what you basically need is a wrecking ball who's not going into the DoD so that he can plan for his $5 million a year job from Raytheon afterwards.

00:06:04.000 It just drives everything about this home to me.

00:06:07.000 And can we get him through?

00:06:08.000 We'll see.

00:06:09.000 But I think it definitely shows the intent of the Trump administration to dramatically shake things up.

00:06:16.000 And it says a lot that Hegseth is possibly only like the third most attention-getting nomination that Trump has made so far.

00:06:27.000 The Gates one, very strong reactions to that.

00:06:30.000 We'll definitely see what unfolds with that one.

00:06:33.000 Tulsi Gabbard, I think...

00:06:35.000 It's going to be very entertaining to see all these...

00:06:38.000 They're going to make very deranged attacks on some of these guys.

00:06:44.000 I think with Tulsi, they're going to accuse her of being a Russian asset.

00:06:48.000 And I don't think there was much evidence for that at any point.

00:06:52.000 But they're going to make very, very deranged attacks.

00:06:54.000 And I think that's going to really show what the battle lines are in DC is who still takes people seriously when the people who failed over and over and over and over again start making these ad hominem attacks on people who are any threat at all to shake up how things are normally done.

00:07:12.000 Tyler, your thoughts on how we're doing so far.

00:07:15.000 It's looking pretty good.

00:07:17.000 Man, I can't wait for all the people who are going to quit because Matt Gaetz is going to get...

00:07:23.000 Right in there.

00:07:24.000 The immediate thought I had was people are literally boxing up their stuff right now, and it's the most incredible thing, considering where we've been.

00:07:34.000 It's incredible.

00:07:36.000 I'm thinking, like, how many documents are they going to destroy?

00:07:42.000 I can't believe this wasn't a bigger scandal.

00:07:44.000 The deputy on the Mueller investigation where they all erased their phones by forgetting the password and then putting in the wrong password ten times in a row until the phone erased itself.

00:07:54.000 And several of them did this.

00:07:55.000 It was just the most blatant criminal behavior imaginable and no one ever got charged or seriously investigated for this.

00:08:02.000 I could see that happening, just tons of it, with the Garland people.

00:08:06.000 I mean, going from Garland to Gates is like the craziest turnaround in the history of human...

00:08:13.000 No, seriously, in all of American history, Merrick Garland to Matt Gates, and it's funny because they have the same initials.

00:08:22.000 They do.

00:08:23.000 Which is hilarious to me, just the whole thing.

00:08:26.000 And, like, the Guardian's posting, like, on their front page right now that, you know, Trump picks far-right Congressman Matt Gaetz as Attorney General.

00:08:34.000 Like, people, they're reckless pick.

00:08:37.000 Lawmakers express doubts.

00:08:39.000 DOJ lawyers slam.

00:08:41.000 Yeah, the...

00:08:43.000 It's like, this whole thing is just so funny.

00:08:45.000 It's just, like, it's the greatest pick ever.

00:08:48.000 Well, so here's...

00:08:48.000 Here's something that I've been looking at.

00:08:51.000 If people remember this, though, Merrick Garland, I don't think is anyone at this point, is certainly not someone that anyone would describe as a moderate.

00:09:00.000 And yet, when I went back and looked at the confirmation of Merrick Garland, he sailed right through.

00:09:07.000 He sailed right through, even though there were people like Ted Cruz at the time who raised serious concerns.

00:09:13.000 Serious grievances and serious reservations about actually approving him as the confirmed attorney general.

00:09:21.000 And I've been going through, so I went, Charlie, and I pulled up the list of all the senators, including all the Republicans, who voted for Merrick Garland.

00:09:30.000 Some interesting names appear on this list.

00:09:33.000 Susan Collins.

00:09:35.000 Oh, wait, Charlie, what do you think?

00:09:37.000 Murkowski?

00:09:37.000 You think Murkowski voted yes?

00:09:38.000 Let's see, let's see.

00:09:39.000 I bet she did.

00:09:40.000 Charlie is 100% right.

00:09:42.000 Murkowski said, yes, look at that.

00:09:45.000 How about, oh, let's check our new Senate Majority Leader.

00:09:49.000 Foon?

00:09:50.000 100% yes.

00:09:52.000 So John Foon voted for Merrick Garland?

00:09:55.000 John Thune, Merrick Garland.

00:09:58.000 So, okay, John Thune from Blake's home state, you know, voting for Merrick Garland there.

00:10:03.000 So how do you defend, and also, wait a minute, Joni Ernst, because I saw she had a comment out there.

00:10:09.000 Let's go see Joni Ernst and voted for Merrick Garland.

00:10:13.000 And so all of these people, Charlie, how do you say that you voted for Merrick Garland, but you wouldn't vote for Matt Gaetz?

00:10:21.000 Well, it's because Matt Gaetz is going to disrupt the Department of Justice.

00:10:24.000 Remember, Matt Gaetz was a target of the illegitimate fourth branch of government, the Department of Justice, with charges they were never able to prove.

00:10:32.000 In fact, there was a blackmail scheme against Matt Gaetz, as you might remember.

00:10:36.000 I remember the whole thing.

00:10:36.000 That was just terrible.

00:10:39.000 And his dad.

00:10:40.000 And his dad.

00:10:40.000 And Matt Gaetz is now going to reform the Department of Justice and do it in a really profound and historic way.

00:10:47.000 Lankford!

00:10:48.000 Lankford voted for him!

00:10:50.000 Langford voted for Garland.

00:10:51.000 Well, let me put you at ease.

00:10:53.000 Let me put you at ease, Jack.

00:10:55.000 I don't think anyone's going to have to vote for him.

00:10:58.000 What do you mean?

00:10:59.000 Oh, so the recess, right?

00:11:00.000 So this is why Trump was pushing so hard.

00:11:03.000 And I believe Charlie had some tweets up as well about recess appointments.

00:11:09.000 And so this is something...

00:11:10.000 And Thomas Massey had one of the first responses after the announcement came out that said, look, you know, confirmation doesn't matter because he can recess a point.

00:11:21.000 And Blake, why don't you walk us through, because I know you know the chapter and verse on this, What is a recess appointment?

00:11:30.000 How dost thou work?

00:11:31.000 Yeah, so first of all, I know that one of the mechanisms they're talking about for how this could happen, this has been reported already, in Article 2 of the Constitution, one of the president's powers is if there is a disagreement between the houses about when to recess, then the president can say, you guys can recess till this suitable time.

00:11:52.000 So, in general, Congress is not in session at all times.

00:11:55.000 In the past, they used to be out of session for pretty long periods.

00:11:59.000 Now they'll just, you know, they'll time it.

00:12:00.000 They'll take an August recess so they can go on vacation.

00:12:03.000 They'll take a recess so they can go campaign before an election.

00:12:07.000 Anyway, obviously vacancies can still happen in the government. 0.81

00:12:10.000 So the president has the power to, during a recess of Congress, appoint an interim person to any of the many positions that he can appoint people to.

00:12:20.000 I don't think he can do it for the Supreme Court, for example, but he can do it for cabinet agencies.

00:12:25.000 And so what you do is, in the past, presidents have done this during actual recesses.

00:12:31.000 They've been trying to fill this spot.

00:12:32.000 No one's there, so they recess-appoint a guy to be Head of this department or even a deputy in a department.

00:12:39.000 What they're considering now is a more calculated use of it because I think the time limit on a recess appointment is maybe is it two years a year and a half it's a span like that and I don't know if they get all it but it goes it goes on the session so if they declare another session they then the time would end but if the session stays open then yeah it could be as long as two years Yeah.

00:13:03.000 Oh, in fact, yes.

00:13:04.000 So specifically, yeah, I actually was missing.

00:13:06.000 Article 2, the president shall have the power to fill up all vacancies that may happen during the recess of the Senate by granting commissions, which shall expire at the end of their next session.

00:13:16.000 So yes, that's what it is, is they can go into recess, you appoint someone, and then they're actually in their spot until the end of the following session.

00:13:24.000 So if they then return...

00:13:26.000 Congressional session.

00:13:26.000 Exactly.

00:13:27.000 So they can then return, and as long as they don't recess again...

00:13:30.000 Which I think even when Congress goes into recess, they often officially don't recess.

00:13:34.000 There's a lot of gimmicks they can do on this front.

00:13:37.000 So what he could do is he could get his guys exercising all or almost all of their powers Right away, you get them shooting out of a cannon, and then it makes it—they can still have confirmation hearings, but it would only have the power to say, like, revoke someone who's already doing their stuff.

00:13:53.000 And especially with Trump, who has a very bold agenda and an agenda that needs to start taking action right away, and it's really damaging if you lose a month, two months, you're going to want guys who can be exercising their powers immediately.

00:14:07.000 And so I know one of their ideas is basically you could have, like, if Mike Johnson asks for a recess and there's disagreement, the president could say, you're in recess for even one day, two days, he can do something like that, and then run through all of his appointments.

00:14:23.000 It would be novel.

00:14:24.000 It would be interesting.

00:14:26.000 I feel like once it happened, it would probably be something everyone would rip off from now on, at least if they have a Congress that's willing to go along with them for it.

00:14:34.000 Right.

00:14:35.000 But there's some conditions, though.

00:14:37.000 So if you're a recess appointment, you can only be in there for two years and 200 days.

00:14:42.000 So it's not a—you don't have the position for the entire administration, right?

00:14:48.000 And then there's also a constitutionality issue of...

00:14:51.000 Because Obama tried to do this, remember, and there was some technical side of this.

00:14:56.000 But look, I think that the Senate has gotten so high in its own supply, both Republican and Democrat Senates, it should be that you should be able to get your cabinet.

00:15:05.000 You should be able to fill a government.

00:15:07.000 It shouldn't take you two and a half years to get your people in.

00:15:09.000 And this is why...

00:15:10.000 That's what they all said about Garland.

00:15:13.000 That's exactly what they said.

00:15:14.000 By the way, we're not going to get a government if it's not for recess appointments.

00:15:17.000 One of the reasons why we were pushing for recess appointments so hard this last weekend is without recess appointments, we're going to have two years before we get our entire team assembled.

00:15:27.000 Tyler, your thoughts on this?

00:15:29.000 Yeah, I mean, I totally agree.

00:15:31.000 I think Trump's taking the right approach by saying, hey, look, we're not going to wait around forever.

00:15:36.000 I was president before.

00:15:38.000 I was given the runaround a lot by Congress.

00:15:42.000 So I'm just setting the record straight right now that you can expect that I'm not going to be cool with just getting the runaround.

00:15:49.000 And so I like the aggressive nature in which the Winter White House is taking these appointments.

00:15:57.000 There's clearly no slowing.

00:16:00.000 I mean, a lot of people would say, hey, you just won the election.

00:16:03.000 You can kind of wait and give it a few weeks.

00:16:06.000 And I can't remember how long it took them to start announcing people last time, but it was not this quickly.

00:16:12.000 So, I mean, this is great to see that you're just running right straight out of the gates.

00:16:17.000 No pun intended.

00:16:19.000 And you're taking off here.

00:16:22.000 And Congress is kind of flat-footed, probably caught a little flat-footed here.

00:16:28.000 And I think that it's going to be kind of like balls in their court.

00:16:32.000 And nothing was going to make the American people more upset with Thune than throwing up hurdles for Donald Trump.

00:16:42.000 And I think that that's what was so great about his press conference today.

00:16:45.000 I mean, he came out and said, we're going to do what the president wants to do.

00:16:48.000 Like, there was a mandate, and I'm glad those words came out of his mouth, and they recognized that.

00:16:54.000 And so hopefully that starts us off on the right foot with all these appointments, whether it's recess or it's voted on.

00:17:01.000 But yeah, this is where we're going to see the real test of...

00:17:05.000 You know, just give us this chance.

00:17:08.000 Give the moderates this chance, right, of proving their worth.

00:17:12.000 Well, the first test that right out of the gate, again, is going to be, can you get these appointments done?

00:17:18.000 And if they can't, you know, the American people are going to be very upset.

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00:18:06.000 Please continue, Blake.

00:18:11.000 Yeah, so I was looking through the records because I remember Bush and Obama both made a lot of recess appointments.

00:18:18.000 That's when they kind of reached their apex.

00:18:19.000 And then a decade ago, there was a Supreme Court ruling that was seen as a conservative victory at the time that did limit recess appointments because they developed a sort of gimmick where the Senate would go into like a very short recess, like a temporary recess, and they would make all these recess appointments at the time.

00:18:38.000 And what the ruling was, in the case if you want to look it up, was NLRB vs.

00:18:42.000 Canning, was the name of it.

00:18:44.000 And I believe the...

00:18:46.000 The funny thing is, I think the majority was like it was a defeat for Obama, but I think it was written by the liberal justices to some extent.

00:18:57.000 But basically what they said is it has to be a sufficiently real recess to actually make a recess appointment.

00:19:04.000 So it has to be like one between congressional terms, like over the midterms, or it has to be one where they actually sought the collaboration of the House of Representatives for the recess.

00:19:14.000 So that's why you kind of are seeing this discussion where you have to get the formal recess with the House also recessing to do this.

00:19:21.000 And it's going to cause all sorts of arguments because this Supreme Court case involves it.

00:19:27.000 And we might end up with this giant ball of litigation over whether Trump can do this.

00:19:32.000 What a great system we have.

00:19:33.000 You just have a Supreme Court case for every single thing the president does.

00:19:37.000 It's going to be a dogfight no matter what, and I guess what I'm happy about is that clearly the administration is going in ready to have these fights, not under the assumption, oh, this is going to be normal, we can run a normal administration and it will all work out.

00:19:53.000 We know from the first time that that's not how it works.

00:19:56.000 Yeah, and also that you can fulfill a mandate from the people.

00:19:59.000 Look, some of these people are not going to get confirmed, right, Jack?

00:20:01.000 But Donald Trump is setting the tone.

00:20:03.000 Some of these people will get through.

00:20:05.000 He's shocking the system.

00:20:06.000 Look, you do not get a mandate for change.

00:20:07.000 Just do one or two.

00:20:08.000 You need to overwhelm the system.

00:20:10.000 Is that right, Jack?

00:20:11.000 Yeah, so what you're doing is you're overwhelming the system.

00:20:14.000 And, you know, so people are saying, oh, Pete Hegseth, that was shocking.

00:20:17.000 And then Tulsi Gabbard, that's shocking.

00:20:19.000 And then Matt Gaetz, that's shocking.

00:20:21.000 And suddenly it's like, wait a minute.

00:20:24.000 You're moving too fast, and so it's basically a system of where your actions, your decision cycle, is actually taking place faster than anything.

00:20:32.000 Charlie, is there anyone in Washington, D.C. who can move this fast?

00:20:35.000 Anyone.

00:20:36.000 No.

00:20:36.000 No one can move this fast in Washington, D.C. The system is not built for that.

00:20:40.000 This is the system.

00:20:41.000 This reminds me of, like, Turning Point, by the way.

00:20:43.000 Turning Point moves fast, as everybody knows.

00:20:45.000 Elon Musk moves fast, as everybody knows.

00:20:48.000 You've got to be willing to hit the ground running, and that's what President Trump is claiming.

00:20:52.000 We're clearly doing here, by the way, securing essentially a statement from Thune to say that recess appointments would be on the table to make sure that President Trump's agenda gets passed.

00:21:07.000 So he secures that from Thune.

00:21:09.000 That's why President Trump doesn't make an endorsement in the Senate Majority Leader race, because he got that out as a public statement from Thune that he would support the agenda.

00:21:18.000 Then, as President Trump, I believe just as he was wheels up from D.C., that's when he pushes, boom, on the truth social posts.

00:21:26.000 So it's like he flew out of D.C. and just dropped a bomb right from Trump Force One.

00:21:32.000 Great, you guys will agree with me.

00:21:34.000 So my appointments are going to be Matt Gaetz, Tulsi Gabbard, and Pete Hegseth.

00:21:38.000 How do you like me now?

00:21:39.000 No, it's incredible strategy that we're seeing, the timing of this.

00:21:42.000 You know, I hope that there are some real historians that actually look back on this time and understand the strategy of what's going on right now, because what you're seeing is actually far more, they want to say it's haphazard, they want to say it's not planned out, they want to say that he's Oh, he's shooting from the hip and he's making it up as it's all going along.

00:22:00.000 But Charlie, you've been there.

00:22:01.000 Is this haphazard or not?

00:22:03.000 No, it's not.

00:22:04.000 It's actually, I think, very strategic.

00:22:05.000 Yes.

00:22:05.000 Because if you're going to shock the system, you've got to shock the system.

00:22:07.000 And you understand, look, some of the people get tripped up in confirmation fights.

00:22:11.000 Okay, but look at the first administration.

00:22:13.000 We had people that we nominated that we had to pull.

00:22:15.000 I'm trying to think it was like an EPA administrator or something, right?

00:22:17.000 There was a whole bunch of them.

00:22:18.000 There was a whole bunch of them.

00:22:19.000 It's just part of the process.

00:22:20.000 So you got to go big.

00:22:21.000 You got to go bold.

00:22:21.000 You got to go quick.

00:22:22.000 And by the way, you lose someone, you get somebody up.

00:22:23.000 It's just a volley of people.

00:22:25.000 And eventually, you're going to get some through.

00:22:27.000 And that's how you effectuate change.

00:22:29.000 It's not going to be like you go all in on one person.

00:22:30.000 Like, oh, our change agent is going to be...

00:22:32.000 And that's what we did last time.

00:22:34.000 That was a huge problem.

00:22:35.000 Last time we said, okay, our change agent is going to be a singular agency.

00:22:38.000 Okay, great.

00:22:39.000 No, it's across the board, okay?

00:22:41.000 Every agency is going to be flooded.

00:22:43.000 We occupy the entire federal government, and we know that the Senate is going to say no to some people.

00:22:49.000 However...

00:22:49.000 Charlie Kirk supports the Occupy movement.

00:22:51.000 Oh, I support it.

00:22:53.000 And we occupy D.C. Occupy D.C. I will say this, though, that...

00:22:58.000 That Senate Republicans are going to have a hard time saying no to everything.

00:23:01.000 And that's the issue, right?

00:23:03.000 And that's the strategy.

00:23:03.000 Okay, they'll say no once, they'll say no twice, they'll say no twice.

00:23:05.000 All of a sudden you say no to the sixth time.

00:23:08.000 And the constituents are going to be like, excuse me, are you on board with President Trump's agenda or not?

00:23:14.000 You said you were.

00:23:15.000 You said to his face you were.

00:23:17.000 You said to all of us that you were.

00:23:18.000 And you got some of that.

00:23:20.000 A lot of these senators, Cornyn's in cycle. 0.81

00:23:21.000 A lot of people are getting in cycle now.

00:23:23.000 And they are not going to forget, those states are not going to forget, that Donald J. Trump won them by, what, 64% in some cases, 55% in some cases.

00:23:33.000 Huge, huge mandates all over the place.

00:23:36.000 And if President Trump is going to put them on blast, now suddenly that's a huge issue.

00:23:40.000 Plus, you know...

00:23:42.000 I don't know how confirmed this is, but there's a rumor floating around, Charlie.

00:23:46.000 I don't know if you've seen this rumor kind of on Twitter, kind of in the media, that Elon Musk has subtly been suggesting funding primaries against people who do not support the agenda.

00:23:58.000 No, I can't confirm that, but certainly gotten involved in the PAC. Overwhelm the system.

00:24:03.000 Let's play cut 393 here.

00:24:05.000 The second thing that hasn't come up yet that concerns me in terms of his policies is that if he's not a Christian nationalist, he's one of their best warriors.

00:24:12.000 I mean, he sees the military at this point as a flaming sword for Christ.

00:24:16.000 One of the other things that he sort of pushes on outside of misogyny and DEI is anti-Muslim bigotry.

00:24:25.000 What?

00:24:25.000 How much did he fit into that one statement?

00:24:27.000 He just ran the whole gamut there.

00:24:30.000 They're not taking this loss.

00:24:31.000 That was all of it.

00:24:32.000 I can't tell you.

00:24:33.000 Again, it's not about the individual.

00:24:34.000 Someone's asked, Charlie, what do you think about Gates?

00:24:36.000 I love Gates, by the way.

00:24:37.000 I think it's amazing.

00:24:38.000 What do you think about this?

00:24:38.000 I said, no, no, no, no.

00:24:39.000 Look at, does it not the forest from the trees?

00:24:41.000 Right.

00:24:41.000 You are seeing an Occupy movement.

00:24:43.000 You are seeing an overwhelm the system.

00:24:45.000 Blake, do you understand the argument I'm making here?

00:24:46.000 And can you contextualize it?

00:24:48.000 It's more about the vibe.

00:24:49.000 It's more about like, hey, we got a mandate.

00:24:52.000 Some of these are not going to work.

00:24:53.000 Some of these guys are going to get, you know, put up in a committee.

00:24:55.000 But we're not going to...

00:24:56.000 We're going to just throw the entire kitchen sink at this thing. 0.99

00:25:00.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:25:02.000 It's, you know, a thing you often heard about Trump's campaign way back when he first started, 2015.

00:25:08.000 People would talk about the A-B testing aspect of the Trump campaign, which is a term from tech.

00:25:14.000 Tech, it's where A-B testing is.

00:25:15.000 Very quickly, do we know what's going to work?

00:25:17.000 Oh, no, we actually have no idea what's going to work.

00:25:19.000 So do several different things and literally see what actually does better than others.

00:25:26.000 And I think you see this with the Musk involvement.

00:25:30.000 This very much defines everything Elon Musk does.

00:25:32.000 There's a value all its own in being really aggressive and just trying things out.

00:25:39.000 Knowing in advance that not everything will get through.

00:25:42.000 And if something doesn't get through, you just, you know, you wipe your hands off and you try again.

00:25:47.000 So one of these guys gets shot down.

00:25:49.000 Okay, bam.

00:25:50.000 You already have your backup ready to go.

00:25:51.000 You put them forward.

00:25:52.000 You don't act surprised about it.

00:25:55.000 And when you go in with that attitude, when you're so maximally aggressive, DC is full of lazy people, it's full of small people, it's full of people who love going on vacation.

00:26:05.000 If you can just overwhelm these people with your energy, if you overwhelm them with your will, we have an idea, we are going to get this done, what are they going to do about it?

00:26:16.000 They can only keep people angry about so many things at once.

00:26:19.000 And Blake, this is how you run a military operation, by the way.

00:26:24.000 This is Normandy, right?

00:26:25.000 So Normandy wasn't just one day.

00:26:27.000 Normandy was, you had days prior to Normandy when there was action taking, shock the system.

00:26:33.000 Obviously, people know every first invasion is followed by, what, the air assault.

00:26:38.000 So air assault hits command and control.

00:26:40.000 Take out their communications, take out their ability to think, take out their ability to talk.

00:26:43.000 Then the waves start hitting the beach.

00:26:45.000 The waves start hitting the beach.

00:26:47.000 You know there's artillery going to be shooting at the planes.

00:26:49.000 You know there's going to be the pillboxes that are coming. 0.95

00:26:51.000 But you just keep sending people.

00:26:54.000 You just keep sending people up.

00:26:56.000 And guess what?

00:26:56.000 What does MAGA have, Charlie?

00:26:57.000 We've got people.

00:26:58.000 Well, that's right.

00:26:59.000 And think about it, though.

00:27:00.000 I mean, what is the nightly news going to focus?

00:27:03.000 By the way, wait till they get to the other agency heads.

00:27:07.000 What are they going to cover?

00:27:09.000 Are they going to cover Pete Hegseth at DOD? Are they going to cover whatever Bobby Kennedy is getting?

00:27:14.000 Are they going to cover Tulsi Gabbard at DNI? Are they going to cover...

00:27:17.000 They probably won't cover Marco Rubio at State.

00:27:19.000 I love Marco to death, but that's probably not...

00:27:20.000 Yeah, Marco, he's kind of a known quantity.

00:27:23.000 Are they going to cover Matt Gaetz at the Department of Justice?

00:27:26.000 Are they going to cover the FBI, whoever ended up getting that?

00:27:28.000 I mean...

00:27:29.000 There's only so much...

00:27:30.000 Wait, you know what would be so funny, too?

00:27:32.000 What if they block someone for something and Trump says, okay, and then he nominates that person for something else?

00:27:40.000 Let me also say this, though, which I think is very important.

00:27:42.000 This is what's so smart, what Trump's doing.

00:27:44.000 The left is the weakest, the most on defense, and the most disorganized we've ever seen.

00:27:49.000 And demoralized, too.

00:27:49.000 And demoralized.

00:27:50.000 He is going for the final knockout punch.

00:27:52.000 What they were hoping is for just a bunch of moderates and business as usual.

00:27:56.000 And in some ways, this might invigorate the left a little bit, but invigorate them in what direction?

00:28:01.000 For example, if they're going to be like, oh, do you guys go protest like Kavanaugh for Pete Hegseth or for Matt Gaetz?

00:28:08.000 Right.

00:28:08.000 Or do you go protest like Kavanaugh or Tulsi Gabbard?

00:28:10.000 Which one is it, right?

00:28:12.000 Or is it Lee Zeldin?

00:28:13.000 Lee Zeldin's gonna have like, he's gonna dance through the EP, right?

00:28:15.000 But the point is, is that there are limitations to the energy of DC because these people haven't done anything for a long time.

00:28:23.000 And Tyler, can you add some context to this, please?

00:28:27.000 Yeah, I mean, I totally...

00:28:29.000 The exciting part of what we've seen in alternative media is We know what their limitations are.

00:28:35.000 And one of the greatest reports that happened this week was talking about how MSNBC and CNN viewership is down like 30% or like 40%.

00:28:46.000 It's like disastrous.

00:28:47.000 They're firing everybody.

00:28:49.000 Allegedly, they're firing Anderson Cooper.

00:28:51.000 They're firing literally Scott Pressler who works over there.

00:28:54.000 No, I'm kidding.

00:28:55.000 It's not Scott Pressler that works over there.

00:28:57.000 It's Caitlin Collins.

00:28:58.000 But they're firing everybody because they can't keep up.

00:29:01.000 Dylan Mulvaney.

00:29:02.000 Not Dylan Mulvaney.

00:29:03.000 Yeah, that's over there.

00:29:04.000 So the funny part about this is that not only are they going to be completely overwhelmed by Trump, and I actually think that this is part of the reason why the media hates him so much.

00:29:14.000 It actually causes them to have to work harder.

00:29:17.000 They have to work more in unfriendly territory than they ever had to work before in the last Trump administration.

00:29:24.000 They now have to work basically overtime to keep up with everything happening that Trump does and now their viewership and their readership is down so significantly much they can't keep up.

00:29:36.000 This is the epitome of the death knell for the mainstream media.

00:29:44.000 This is it.

00:29:45.000 And they know it.

00:29:46.000 They sense it coming.

00:29:47.000 They can't keep up.

00:29:48.000 No one believes them anymore.

00:29:49.000 The harder they press against it because they have to because they're told to, the fewer people actually follow what they're doing.

00:29:55.000 And it's just an overwhelming barrage of...

00:29:59.000 And I applaud Susie, everybody that's running the transition right now.

00:30:06.000 Charlie, you know this closer than anybody else.

00:30:09.000 What they're doing is the exact right thing to do.

00:30:12.000 Susie's doing great.

00:30:12.000 The exact right thing to do.

00:30:13.000 Well, I'm right there in front row seat.

00:30:14.000 And, I mean, look, the whole mantra is this, which is we did not win a mandate election to just go play patty cake, patty cake, what, baker's hand or whatever the heck they call it.

00:30:22.000 Yeah, baker's mandate.

00:30:23.000 Right?

00:30:24.000 With the Central Intelligence Agency.

00:30:26.000 You can tell Charlie has toddlers.

00:30:27.000 I feel...

00:30:27.000 Yeah, no, I'm relearning them.

00:30:29.000 Baker's man.

00:30:30.000 No, I'm relearning them.

00:30:31.000 Give me two years.

00:30:32.000 I'll know every single song.

00:30:33.000 Do you know the Muffin Man? 0.88

00:30:34.000 No, not yet.

00:30:35.000 And so...

00:30:36.000 But this was a mandate election.

00:30:38.000 And, Blake, I know that, you know, the counter-argument is, oh, this is going to be clumsy and all this...

00:30:43.000 But yes, however, I would rather err on the side of max aggression, Blake, than what we did in 2016.

00:30:52.000 Would you agree with that?

00:30:53.000 Exactly.

00:30:54.000 And I think one thing they should keep in mind, actually, because they have a couple months to think about this.

00:31:00.000 Is what stuff with your bold picks that they can do early on that is hard to attack, but it's like aggressive and would be received well.

00:31:10.000 So I can imagine you come in, let's say either he gets approved or you get the recess appointment through.

00:31:16.000 So you have Sec, Def, Hegseth. 0.86

00:31:18.000 What can he do day one?

00:31:20.000 I bet he could say day one, yeah, here's our order where all of the trans stuff, that's not a military priority anymore. 0.98

00:31:28.000 Have that written and have it be serious.

00:31:30.000 Don't have it be a meme thing.

00:31:32.000 Think about what the real policy should be.

00:31:34.000 Or D&I. You have Tulsi goes in and it could be, here's some old CIA stuff because we promised greater transparency.

00:31:44.000 Or we're rolling back this domestic spying operation.

00:31:49.000 Do that right away.

00:31:51.000 Stuff like that where it's very difficult for anyone to attack it without sounding like a psycho.

00:31:57.000 Is going to be good.

00:31:58.000 And that's how you, I think, can get the big change agenda to have a positive reception.

00:32:04.000 And you don't have to make it that long, I feel.

00:32:06.000 If you can make a good impression early and also show you're not screwing things up dramatically, their ability to remain volcanically angry about it is going to decline.

00:32:16.000 Or at least it's going to stop working with the public.

00:32:19.000 They can, you know, if the press tells them that, oh, you know, Matt Gaetz is a deranged pick for Attorney General, they can push that for a while.

00:32:27.000 But if Matt Gaetz is Attorney General for a few months and the world hasn't fallen and the stuff he's done so far actually seems like it was a good idea, what are they going to do?

00:32:37.000 They can't keep staying outraged about it. 0.93

00:32:39.000 And if they try, they'll just look ridiculous. 0.80

00:32:41.000 So, yeah, I just, I think it's brilliant.

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00:33:30.000 It's really funny.

00:33:33.000 I've lost like 10 pounds since the election ended.

00:33:35.000 And you know why?

00:33:37.000 Why?

00:33:37.000 Because I'm not as stressed.

00:33:39.000 Re-stress eating?

00:33:40.000 Not stress eating.

00:33:42.000 You keep weight on when you're stressed, even if you have the same diet.

00:33:45.000 Because your body thinks that you're in a time of panic.

00:33:48.000 In the wild.

00:33:49.000 So it's like holding on to calories.

00:33:51.000 Exactly.

00:33:51.000 All of a sudden I'm like, I'm sleeping well.

00:33:53.000 I don't have this pit in my stomach.

00:33:56.000 Tyler, are you feeling the same thing?

00:33:57.000 You're pit in your stomach, Charlie.

00:33:58.000 I used to.

00:33:59.000 Were you jonesing it a little bit?

00:34:00.000 I thought we were going to lose at some point.

00:34:02.000 I am aware.

00:34:05.000 No, we knew we were going to win the whole time.

00:34:06.000 We did just well.

00:34:07.000 We did just fine.

00:34:09.000 We knew we were going to uplift this thing.

00:34:12.000 Producer Faz says, I'm having dreams again.

00:34:17.000 Yeah, that's...

00:34:19.000 Oh, you guys.

00:34:20.000 Look, I remember I sat down on election night, and I was like, we should talk about election night a little bit, just how it, you know, it's been, what, a week and a half, I guess, since then?

00:34:27.000 I remember, you know, everyone's like, oh, we don't know, we don't know, and I sat, and, oh, no, because last week we were saying last MAGA rally.

00:34:33.000 Remember we were saying last MAGA rally was...

00:34:35.000 It was one week ago that we were saying it was the last MAGA rally.

00:34:38.000 And I remember I sat down and said, yeah, this is the last one until the Victory Tour and January 20th, 2025, when Donald J. Trump takes his oath of office.

00:34:49.000 And everyone's like, oh, I don't know about that, Jack.

00:34:51.000 I was like, no, no, no, no, he got this.

00:34:54.000 100%.

00:34:55.000 Okay, Phoenix is checking their emails here.

00:34:58.000 So, let's close this conversation.

00:35:01.000 Tyler's thinking about chicken wings right now.

00:35:03.000 Tyler, what food are you thinking about the most?

00:35:05.000 I can't think about it.

00:35:06.000 I'm just like...

00:35:09.000 I've never done...

00:35:10.000 I've fasted for full days before, but going on three days and then thinking about going longer here is like...

00:35:16.000 Do it.

00:35:17.000 Go longer.

00:35:18.000 Oh, man.

00:35:19.000 We should have a contest.

00:35:20.000 Maybe if you want to eat and then I'll start fasting and then we could have a contest or something.

00:35:24.000 But I've lost...

00:35:25.000 Charlotte, I've lost 14 pounds since the election and half of it's probably just from the stress.

00:35:31.000 But the other half is this water fast, so...

00:35:35.000 We'll see where we go.

00:35:36.000 I just, I'm reading Twitter.

00:35:38.000 I can't, this Gates thing, this is so smart.

00:35:40.000 It's like, I'm mad about Pete Head.

00:35:41.000 Exactly, never mind.

00:35:42.000 I'm mad about, it's like, Tulsi Grabbers, it makes the left look complete.

00:35:47.000 By the way, this is, it's so smart because they lost an election and like, they don't have trust.

00:35:51.000 Oh, by the way, can we play this tape here?

00:35:52.000 Of the Attorney General giving me a ride.

00:35:55.000 Oh, my...

00:35:55.000 Was it today?

00:35:56.000 It was recently.

00:35:57.000 It was recently.

00:35:58.000 It was the last day or two.

00:35:59.000 I'll pull it out.

00:35:59.000 You got to put it in the chat.

00:36:01.000 It's gone totally viral, by the way.

00:36:03.000 That's hilarious.

00:36:04.000 Yeah, so the...

00:36:06.000 Yeah, it's...

00:36:08.000 Reporters are texting me being like, what's he saying in the car?

00:36:11.000 He told me to put it on my seatbelt.

00:36:11.000 But here's the thing, though, right, is at some point, though, it's like...

00:36:16.000 Isn't this what the American people voted for?

00:36:19.000 They're like, we want change.

00:36:21.000 We want to see the people on TV, on those channels, freaking out and crying and hysterical.

00:36:28.000 And it's like you're literally playing into their hands every single time you do this.

00:36:34.000 And it just reinforces that Trump should actually do more of it.

00:36:38.000 Yes.

00:36:38.000 Because the more he does it, the more they react, and the more popular it gets.

00:36:42.000 And, in fact, the more runway it gives him to go, like, what's further than Matt Gaetz's AG? You know, like, who can we appoint to head the Space Force?

00:36:52.000 Who can we appoint to head, you know, nuclear agencies?

00:36:55.000 Who can we appoint to head all sorts of things that are still out there on the table, folks?

00:37:00.000 And just which names are going to drive them more insane?

00:37:03.000 You're actually creating an incentive structure here.

00:37:07.000 That's actually quite favorable to people who, I don't know, care about the country and patriotism and all of these things.

00:37:12.000 So it's genius because he's put them in a situation where the more upset they get, the better his cabinet gets.

00:37:20.000 And it's just, Blake, can you comment on this?

00:37:23.000 The left is not in fight mode right now.

00:37:26.000 Right?

00:37:26.000 That's why this is so smart.

00:37:28.000 It is.

00:37:29.000 It is.

00:37:29.000 And, like, the only downside is they will have, I guess, a couple months just because that's when the inauguration is to maybe collect their bearings.

00:37:37.000 But right now they are really...

00:37:39.000 They're in a bit of shock.

00:37:40.000 I think they probably expected the Trump transition to be similar to the last one where it took longer to announce some key picks.

00:37:47.000 There was more disorganization around it.

00:37:51.000 It was a slower process.

00:37:52.000 Whereas this one...

00:37:53.000 Chief of Staff's decided pretty quick.

00:37:55.000 Key cabinet jobs decided pretty quick.

00:37:58.000 It's going.

00:37:58.000 Fast, fast, fast, fast.

00:38:00.000 And that means more time for people to get over it.

00:38:04.000 They can't keep the hate as high for two months.

00:38:07.000 And more time for the Trump world to figure out their strategy of, okay, we've decided who we want in.

00:38:12.000 What are we going to do with them?

00:38:14.000 I think obviously you're there, Charlie.

00:38:16.000 You see it firsthand and you're playing your role in it.

00:38:19.000 But I think we've already seen that this transition is better than the first one was.

00:38:24.000 And I think that's a good harbinger for hopefully how the entire second Trump term will be.

00:38:28.000 And as you say, Democrats, they're not in fight mode.

00:38:32.000 They are in one fight mode.

00:38:34.000 They're fighting each other.

00:38:35.000 We're getting all of the recriminations about the election, which if we want to take a sec to talk about that, we can.

00:38:41.000 It's all very funny stuff.

00:38:43.000 They're arguing over who, you know, did Biden sabotage Harris?

00:38:48.000 Did Harris sabotage Harris?

00:38:50.000 Did Pelosi sabotage Harris?

00:38:51.000 They all agree there was some sabotage, but, you know, who's to blame for it?

00:38:55.000 Okay, so let's, we haven't done a really good election diagnosis.

00:38:58.000 Tyler, a lot of our audience is probably wondering what the heck happened with Cary Lake, Arizona, on this program, because we kind of had that going last week.

00:39:06.000 Tyler, can you take the time we have remaining here?

00:39:08.000 I mean, we have a little bit of time.

00:39:09.000 We've got 15 or 20 minutes.

00:39:10.000 Just to kind of give us what happened because the final drops were actually far bluer, like way bluer than any of our modeling would have suggested.

00:39:20.000 So please tell us.

00:39:22.000 Yeah, I mean, yeah, Charlie, I mean, you kind of, you know, throughout the line here, that's most critical.

00:39:29.000 The way that elections now that Democrats run are operated, they basically go through step by step, slow roll.

00:39:40.000 I mean, this is the California model.

00:39:41.000 This is why California is still counting ballots.

00:39:43.000 We still don't have answers on some of these races or we're just barely getting them now.

00:39:47.000 And this is the same in Arizona.

00:39:49.000 They go through with each vote block at a time, finally ending with the late early ballot drop offs that happen on Election Day.

00:40:00.000 Basically, what was what we've seen over the course of the last number of days, because a ton of people have been asking is what's going on in Arizona?

00:40:09.000 What happened with Carrie Lake?

00:40:12.000 The remaining votes that got counted in the last wee hours of this election were heavily lean Democrat.

00:40:22.000 Unexpectedly so.

00:40:25.000 Remarkably so.

00:40:27.000 Two to one Democrat, which we've never seen before, on election day drops.

00:40:33.000 There's a lot of speculation as to why that is.

00:40:37.000 We definitely know that the Democrats spiked at the last hour to get out the vote operations trying to catch up because they knew they were so far behind.

00:40:48.000 That definitely played a role into it in Arizona.

00:40:51.000 They told everyone they knocked something like 700,000 doors in the last week.

00:40:56.000 I don't think they actually did that, but I do think that they did spike money into the state, and they were really worried.

00:41:03.000 The left had spent millions and millions of dollars on Senate and House races, thinking that they were going to take over the Arizona State Senate and the State House.

00:41:11.000 They failed in really...

00:41:15.000 Miraculous form at doing that.

00:41:17.000 And so I think they got really nervous and really worried about that.

00:41:21.000 But there's also some speculation that there was a lot of really questionable drop-offs that happened in the last couple days.

00:41:30.000 And so, you know, as we know in Arizona, it's illegal to ballot harvest.

00:41:34.000 It's illegal in most states to ballot harvest.

00:41:36.000 California's not, but Arizona it is.

00:41:40.000 And there was a lot of drop-offs.

00:41:42.000 In fact, in Maricopa County, there was 229,000 drop-offs.

00:41:46.000 So there's a little bit of a surge in drop-offs and a drop-off in Election Day voting.

00:41:52.000 and the votes that remained out there, a lot of people speculated, and based off the data analysis that we were pulling in our own office, was that we were going to see an uptick in Republicans who dropped off ballots.

00:42:05.000 This did not pan out.

00:42:08.000 We will be looking at every single person who dropped off an early ballot on Election Day to give a full, deeper analysis of what really happened in that 229,000.

00:42:21.000 But the trajectory that Kerry was on, with it being the reverse situation, which was high Republican turnout on Election Day, was actually at one point really good, looking really good.

00:42:35.000 But again, what we saw was a huge surge in Democrat turnout, an unexpected surge in Democrat turnout on the days preceding Election Day and on Election Day with drop-offs.

00:42:48.000 So we're seeing something similar in Pennsylvania, by the way, where Bob Casey has enlisted the aid of Mark Elias, everyone's favorite Steele dossier, Russiagate lawyer, and his lawyers are now clogging up the courtrooms in every single collar county of Philadelphia,

00:43:08.000 in Philadelphia County itself, because they are just running around everywhere demanding, just like you're saying, Tyler, they're going for You know, oh, you know, but sort of in the opposite direction, right?

00:43:19.000 So they're saying, oh, you need to count every single possible vote that could be for KC. Oh, this one is crumpled and the C has like a bend in it.

00:43:28.000 So that means that person was trying to vote for KC and didn't work in the...

00:43:32.000 It's nonsense.

00:43:33.000 And yet we have a situation where Dave McCormick has begun Senate orientation, and yet he hasn't actually gone up against an opponent who will drop out of the race.

00:43:45.000 And Josh Shapiro is sitting there sort of presiding all over it.

00:43:48.000 By the way, I think the latest I heard in Pennsylvania is that it's actually going to a recount, even as Dave McCormick has already been involved in the...

00:43:59.000 House or Senate orientation.

00:44:01.000 I believe he actually voted in the leadership, in the leadership radio, because incoming...

00:44:06.000 We don't know how he voted, but...

00:44:07.000 We don't know how he voted, but leadership does get a...

00:44:10.000 The incoming member does actually get a vote.

00:44:13.000 So, Tyler, I want to ask you really quick, in the time...

00:44:16.000 Again, this is another thing people are asking.

00:44:18.000 I want to just say very factual, non-speculative.

00:44:20.000 Blake's eye roll will be enough to cause a solar eclipse.

00:44:24.000 Which is...

00:44:26.000 Eric Hovde, okay...

00:44:28.000 Can we get the clip of Hovde on Twitter?

00:44:31.000 It's very compelling.

00:44:32.000 It's very, very compelling.

00:44:33.000 This guy's legit.

00:44:35.000 He's not an unproven guy.

00:44:38.000 And we have to pursue the truth wherever it leads us, right, Jack?

00:44:42.000 We do.

00:44:42.000 Let's play cut 397.

00:44:44.000 This stinks like a skunk.

00:44:45.000 Play cut 397. 0.96

00:44:47.000 Like many of my supporters, I was shocked by what unfolded on election night.

00:44:52.000 At 1 a.m., I was receiving calls of congratulations and based on the models, it appeared I would win the Senate race.

00:45:00.000 Then at 4 a.m., Milwaukee reported approximately 108,000 absentee ballots, with Senator Baldwin receiving nearly 90% of those ballots.

00:45:12.000 Statistically, this outcome seems improbable.

00:45:17.000 Yeah, I mean, so we have the same issue going on in Pima County.

00:45:22.000 There's been some data analysis that's happened in Arizona as well that seems that the Democrat opponent to Carrie Lake, in the similar fashion that Eric Hovde is mentioning, received close to 90% of the ballots.

00:45:35.000 And again, this is where people kind of lost their minds last time was you had middle of the night, very late in the game, all of a sudden statistical anomalies with returns come in.

00:45:47.000 And so, you know, I think this is where people have real issues with the election because the elections are not transparent.

00:45:55.000 They're not reporting these things on an hourly basis.

00:45:57.000 They're waiting days, in some cases, to report results.

00:46:02.000 There's some really simple solutions here, which is that things need to be significantly more transparent that disallow for speculation.

00:46:14.000 I think that the candidates have a right to know, hour by hour, in my opinion, what the results look like.

00:46:23.000 In Arizona, we have a law that forces the recorders to count through the night.

00:46:29.000 They have to keep counting in order.

00:46:31.000 And so there's nothing that prevents them from just reporting in a much more frequent basis.

00:46:36.000 And like I said, hourly, it makes the most sense to me.

00:46:39.000 So that you don't see big drops happen at one time.

00:46:43.000 So you can see these things happen.

00:46:44.000 I think part of the reason why people have such concerns is that you don't hear or see anything for hours or days.

00:46:52.000 And then they'll have things happen.

00:46:55.000 Like here in Arizona, they found...

00:46:57.000 Thousands of ballots in a safe way after the deadline in Yuma.

00:47:03.000 They had an issue where they said they couldn't process tens of thousands of ballots correctly in Milwaukee.

00:47:10.000 So we're tracking all these different things.

00:47:13.000 The most critical part here is who are these people?

00:47:17.000 Who are these late people?

00:47:19.000 And guess what?

00:47:21.000 A simple FOIA allows us to get the information for the voters, identify who these people are, and start walking this backwards and saying, you know, how does an anomaly like 90% Democrats show up in a ballot drop?

00:47:40.000 Because even in the places like Milwaukee, which is heavily Democrat, you don't have 90% Democrat turnout.

00:47:47.000 This isn't D.C. compared to 10% Republican.

00:47:53.000 And how do you start to analyze that data?

00:47:56.000 I feel really, really bad for the Havdi campaigns, for the late campaigns, for many that have gone through this, because these close races like this It is heartbreaking to watch these people lose sleep over the course of a week when these election administrators slow walk everything and they don't give answers.

00:48:20.000 They're non-responsive.

00:48:22.000 They don't respond to lawyers even in a fast fashion.

00:48:27.000 And what it does is it just makes the public trust the process less.

00:48:32.000 And this is part of the reason why people are so committed to the idea of one day, one ballot, one vote, kind of old school, or at least moving to a system that's more like Florida, where it's limited, excuse-only mail-in ballots, and they have to be in by a certain time for them to count.

00:48:51.000 That we can know by the end of the day on election day what the heck is going on here.

00:48:56.000 Because if that was the case in Arizona and in Wisconsin, you would have a lot more trust in the system.

00:49:04.000 They're asking for people to trust the system less because in the middle of the night...

00:49:09.000 When one candidate's up, all of a sudden you have a drop like this happen, and whether it's an anomaly or not, whether it's legit or not, people are going to question the system moving forward all the time.

00:49:22.000 Okay, Blake, what do you find wrong with that?

00:49:26.000 Thankfully, we already have the graphic for my eyes causing the solar eclipse, if they want to put that up.

00:49:33.000 So I understand people being really wary of it.

00:49:37.000 It's burning my retinas!

00:49:38.000 And as I've said, it's 100% bad, regardless of whether the votes are legit, to have a 90% thing drop at 3am because it fries people's brains.

00:49:49.000 They get really upset about it.

00:49:51.000 Yeah.

00:49:51.000 What I will say about it is, like, I've looked at the county results for Milwaukee and, like, are they wildly out of range from what the rest of the state is doing?

00:50:06.000 I don't think so.

00:50:07.000 Milwaukee was more Republican this election than it was in 2020.

00:50:11.000 But it's the batches that came in late.

00:50:14.000 Okay, but...

00:50:16.000 That were 90-10.

00:50:17.000 90-10.

00:50:17.000 It's not about the whole county.

00:50:18.000 The county itself is 70-30, and if your early vote is going to be more Democratic, if it's like mail-in voting in Wisconsin's case...

00:50:27.000 It doesn't sound insane to me that would be the case, especially if they had a good mail-in harvesting operation in Wisconsin.

00:50:36.000 I think if they did anything shady, it would have to be something that they did identically last time, and maybe it was.

00:50:42.000 But, you know, as you say, we can check the names of these people.

00:50:47.000 If there's someone who's dead, we should be able to detect this.

00:50:49.000 If it happened at scale, we should. 0.95

00:50:51.000 Uh, and another thing I would point out is, like, they're getting fewer Democrat votes than they did in 2012 and 2008, when they had no need to steal anything at all, because Obama was kicking butt.

00:51:03.000 Like, you can look at it, uh, they have, I think, about the same population now as they did in 2012.

00:51:07.000 It's not a growing place, but it's not really shrinking.

00:51:10.000 In 2012, it was, uh, Like, 67% Obama, 31% Romney, but they got 332,000 votes for Obama, 154,000 for Romney.

00:51:25.000 2024, it's almost the exact same number.

00:51:28.000 It's about 68% again, but it's only 310,000 votes for Harris.

00:51:33.000 And then you have, I think, slightly more votes, which you can probably attribute to people who vote Trump, but then for Baldwin, which those people exist.

00:51:45.000 Yeah, and that's the big thing that really chaps people. 1.00

00:51:48.000 And I'll just use the Arizona example.

00:51:51.000 In Arizona, the one weird, very strange difference between the presidential and the Senate race, and this happens from time to time, but the Senate race garnered like four times as many, almost five times as many Green Party votes than the U.S. presidential race.

00:52:10.000 And people ask the question, well, that's really strange too.

00:52:13.000 That's like very, very, very strange.

00:52:15.000 Because, you know, typically if you're a Green Party member that's like, or a person that wants to vote Green Party and you're like really excited to vote Green Party for the US Senate race.

00:52:24.000 You're probably going to be excited to vote that for president.

00:52:29.000 Again, it happens when there's a disparity.

00:52:32.000 The strange part about Arizona, and I'll give this case, there were half as many Green Party votes for president this time than there were in 2016.

00:52:42.000 And you could equate a lot of similarities between this election in 2016 with a really unlikable Democrat candidate and Jill Stein coming out and being super vocal.

00:52:55.000 But there were significantly more votes.

00:52:58.000 But they were still less than the year that McCain ran in 2016.

00:53:03.000 Well, McCain funded a lot.

00:53:05.000 People don't realize this in the background, funded a lot of Green Party activity.

00:53:09.000 For sure, Kerry's campaign was not doing that.

00:53:12.000 These were all organic and natural.

00:53:14.000 But it is really strange that you have that situation happen, while at the same time you start seeing, again, voter drops that are heavily Democrat, where that just historically hasn't been the case, or even in areas where that hasn't been the case.

00:53:29.000 And we saw a ton of that in the final counts in the last days, and for sure with the very, very final day of election drops.

00:53:40.000 So...

00:53:40.000 Do we have any more ads, guys?

00:53:41.000 Or are we...

00:53:42.000 One sec.

00:53:43.000 Are we wrapped up on ads?

00:53:44.000 We have one more?

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00:53:47.000 And then we'll go around the horn.

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00:54:42.000 Final thoughts, Blake.

00:54:44.000 I think it's very aggressive what the Trump campaign is doing, but I'm excited about it.

00:54:49.000 I think it shows a strong intent to deliver on what they care about.

00:54:54.000 I think it shows that the right people are getting input on this administration.

00:55:00.000 It doesn't mean everything is going to work.

00:55:04.000 Some things are going to fail.

00:55:05.000 Some nominees will probably get rejected.

00:55:08.000 But going in, knowing that will be the case, being ready for that outcome, being ready to move on after it happens, that shows the right attitude.

00:55:17.000 It's taking the mentality of the Trump 2024 presidential campaign and bringing it into the Trump 2025 through 2028 presidency.

00:55:27.000 So I am excited to see how it plays out.

00:55:31.000 I'm excited for the political battles that are to come.

00:55:33.000 And I'm excited that we'll be right in the middle of it.

00:55:36.000 Final thoughts, Jack?

00:55:38.000 We need to keep going.

00:55:39.000 I don't think we've been aggressive enough yet.

00:55:41.000 We need to double down on our aggression.

00:55:44.000 We need to double down on our belligerentness.

00:55:46.000 We need to absolutely take over everything.

00:55:51.000 I've even got a bid in to take over MSNBC, by the way.

00:55:54.000 We're talking to some investors.

00:55:56.000 We'll see how that goes.

00:55:57.000 And I just don't know.

00:55:58.000 I mean, the price, you know, it's just they're quoting us.

00:56:00.000 It's so high.

00:56:01.000 But look, no, it's you need complete and total domination, not just of the political space, but of the information space.

00:56:08.000 And in the way that we've seen that Charlie Kirk and so many other of us have dominated in new spaces and new media, we are going to continue to do that throughout the entire government and all areas of By the way, I'll also throw out, it's so funny, right?

00:56:29.000 Because Donald Trump, and I tweeted this, Donald Trump has already begun liberating American people from federal tyranny because now as the federal government keeps trying to screw over Trump's cabinet picks, they will not be focused on screwing over the American people.

00:56:42.000 40 Chess.

00:56:43.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com and subscribe to our podcast.

00:56:47.000 Thank you guys so much for listening.

00:56:50.000 God bless and talk to you soon.

00:56:51.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - November 16, 2024

THOUGHTCRIME: Clash of the Cabinet Edition

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