The Charlie Kirk Show - October 17, 2026


THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 146 — A 24-Team Playoff? Boring, or Whoring?

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00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.
00:00:05.000 I run the largest pro American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic.
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00:01:17.000 Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Thought Crime Thursday.
00:01:23.000 For those listening on the audio side or for those watching, you can see I'm here coming in live from the Unhumans Socialist Revolution podcast studio.
00:01:32.000 New book drops on Tuesday.
00:01:35.000 Very exciting.
00:01:37.000 And it looks like.
00:01:39.000 We have the entire Fabulous Four lined up today.
00:01:42.000 What's up, guys?
00:01:43.000 Angelo's here, even though, or not Angelo, Andrew's here, even though he should feel shame and hide his face.
00:01:47.000 Because really, by the time you listen to this on Saturday, I suspect the Dodgers will just be fully eradicated from baseball.
00:01:55.000 I would take, I would, the nation will be celebrated.
00:01:58.000 They've become unhumans.
00:01:59.000 I don't know.
00:01:59.000 But you know what I will say is I will say that I would take the criticism from Blake Neff more seriously if he rooted for a team that had won the World Series, like, you know, Since Gen Alpha, Gen Z has been born.
00:02:11.000 Or like a team that has won a World Series in a way other than just frantically throwing insane amounts of money.
00:02:17.000 Tyler's just leaving and throwing around.
00:02:20.000 What is Tyler doing?
00:02:20.000 It has a photo that's set up.
00:02:22.000 Tyler, what is he doing?
00:02:25.000 Tyler is trying to destroy the studio now.
00:02:29.000 I was just making sure the camera was working over there.
00:02:34.000 Okay.
00:02:35.000 It is working.
00:02:36.000 Oh, is it?
00:02:36.000 Okay.
00:02:37.000 I just, this beautiful, Brewers hat, I've got on.
00:02:41.000 No, I was going to get to the Brewers hat.
00:02:43.000 All right, here's the thing.
00:02:44.000 You can't be disgusted with this.
00:02:46.000 Literally, Blake has the audacity to clown on me when we're back to back champions.
00:02:50.000 We won three and one.
00:02:51.000 Oh, yeah.
00:02:52.000 Oh, it's amazing what you can do when you spend $700 million.
00:02:54.000 You literally have one.
00:02:56.000 Like, it's Paul Molliter and Kirby Puckett.
00:02:58.000 Those are your only salary points.
00:03:00.000 Jack Morris pitched all 10 innings to win game seven.
00:03:05.000 You have nothing as cool as Jack Morris going 10 innings in game seven.
00:03:09.000 So much stuff.
00:03:10.000 This, no, even though I have, I have, I have, you just hate us because you ain't us because you root for the D backs.
00:03:16.000 I have a deep rooted hatred, always don't make the playoffs by one game.
00:03:19.000 I have a deep rooted hatred for the Dodgers, that is a fact.
00:03:22.000 I am totally biased, but however, I do want to make the claim the pitch.
00:03:26.000 I'm into this for the Brewers.
00:03:28.000 The Brewers deserve, they're one of the longest, uh, most historic franchises in the MLB that hasn't won a championship, that hasn't won a World Series, and they deserve to go.
00:03:42.000 Number one.
00:03:43.000 They're the best record in the league this year.
00:03:45.000 I'm so mad, though.
00:03:46.000 Hold on.
00:03:46.000 They literally have B roll titled Dodgers Sad.
00:03:50.000 You know what?
00:03:51.000 Just play it.
00:03:51.000 Up yours, everybody.
00:03:53.000 Roll it.
00:03:54.000 Roll the tape. 0.73
00:03:54.000 Roll the B roll. 0.73
00:03:55.000 Go. 0.94
00:03:55.000 This is ridiculous. 0.94
00:03:56.000 Roll the tape. 0.98
00:03:59.000 I'm not telling you what number it is.
00:04:01.000 It is number.
00:04:03.000 You don't even know.
00:04:03.000 I don't even know.
00:04:05.000 Did they take it out of here?
00:04:06.000 There we go.
00:04:07.000 That's not even bad.
00:04:09.000 18.
00:04:09.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:04:10.000 Show the 18.
00:04:11.000 Yeah, all the sad Dodgers fans.
00:04:13.000 That man is crying.
00:04:14.000 He's staring out in the rain.
00:04:17.000 He was wearing a shirt like that today with his Dodgers hat on.
00:04:20.000 Yeah, whatever.
00:04:21.000 You know how bad of a Dodgers fan Andrew is?
00:04:23.000 He didn't even wear a Dodgers hat today.
00:04:26.000 Put up 17, too.
00:04:27.000 That's a good one.
00:04:28.000 I don't walk around the office.
00:04:29.000 There we go.
00:04:30.000 That's Ralph Wiggum, Dodgers fan.
00:04:31.000 There was a clip I sent him.
00:04:33.000 There was a whole.
00:04:34.000 Nobody.
00:04:34.000 Cares about that.
00:04:35.000 Oh, there is one.
00:04:35.000 There is one.
00:04:35.000 All right.
00:04:36.000 Here we go.
00:04:37.000 This is. 0.75
00:04:38.000 Yeah, let's play clip 15.
00:04:39.000 Oh, this is beautiful.
00:04:42.000 This is what I live for.
00:04:43.000 This is actually my World Series.
00:04:46.000 My teams can't win anything.
00:04:47.000 So all I live for is to watch LA fans.
00:04:50.000 Did you see me dunking on you when the D backs could have gotten to the playoffs, but they couldn't?
00:04:56.000 We dunk on ourselves every year. 0.99
00:04:58.000 That's ridiculous. 0.97
00:04:58.000 Here's the thing. 0.97
00:04:59.000 I actually think the Dodgers are doing this on purpose in order to avoid the walkout.
00:05:05.000 The, what do we call it?
00:05:06.000 Because they're negotiating salary caps in the offseason.
00:05:10.000 I hope that.
00:05:11.000 And now we've got the Indians who have the 30th largest payroll against Tampa Bay who has like the 26th largest payroll.
00:05:18.000 Gonna play the Brewers who have like the 22nd largest payroll.
00:05:21.000 Yeah, it's great.
00:05:21.000 Can you imagine the Billions atrocity that's going to be for MLB?
00:05:25.000 You love to hate it.
00:05:27.000 The Brewers have the 22nd largest payroll and they were the best in the league this year.
00:05:33.000 They had the best.
00:05:34.000 Which is why you don't need a salary cap.
00:05:35.000 Okay, perfect.
00:05:36.000 Because everybody loves to hate on.
00:05:38.000 The Yankees and the Dodgers.
00:05:39.000 That makes for better ratings.
00:05:41.000 But here's my point.
00:05:42.000 So they deserve to sweep the Dodgers tonight.
00:05:46.000 They deserve it.
00:05:47.000 And here's the other thing.
00:05:47.000 This is one of the most storied franchises.
00:05:50.000 They're historic.
00:05:51.000 They're historic by name.
00:05:53.000 One of the commissioners is literally from Milwaukee.
00:05:56.000 The former commissioners are from Milwaukee.
00:05:59.000 And they've never gotten close in most years.
00:06:02.000 And then the other thing is this they actually used to play their spring training right here in Chandler, Arizona.
00:06:07.000 And then they bailed on you, bro.
00:06:09.000 No, they're still in the West Valley, but they're still here.
00:06:14.000 But when I grew up, the Brewers were in Chandler, Arizona.
00:06:19.000 They had a little park there that was historic.
00:06:23.000 It was like right in the backyard, actually, where Bash's had their headquarters.
00:06:28.000 And my grandpa had his 50th birthday party.
00:06:30.000 Okay, nobody cares about any of this.
00:06:31.000 But the Brewers, though, are like historic.
00:06:34.000 They deserve this.
00:06:35.000 All right, fine. 0.99
00:06:36.000 And if it's the Brewers versus the Indians, That's the greatest.
00:06:40.000 No, because it's the World Series.
00:06:42.000 They're called, what are they called now?
00:06:43.000 The Commanders?
00:06:43.000 No, the Guardians.
00:06:44.000 It's the Indians. 1.00
00:06:45.000 The Guardians.
00:06:46.000 The Guardians.
00:06:47.000 They could never not be the team they were in Major League.
00:06:49.000 Well, why would you root for a team that bent the knee to the woke mob? 1.00
00:06:53.000 That's a stupid thing to root for. 1.00
00:06:55.000 Oh, because the Dodgers didn't bend the knee to the woke mob when they had that game. 1.00
00:06:58.000 At least they're still named the Dodgers. 0.56
00:07:00.000 Didn't they have like a mandatory day for the entire team where they came out and were like, we're adding D to LGBT?
00:07:06.000 I don't understand the nuances.
00:07:08.000 That was a huge, Issue for a lot of the players, and guess what happened?
00:07:11.000 They did it anyway. 0.99
00:07:12.000 Clayton Kershaw and all these other guys got together and they said, We want you to bring back Preaching the Gospel Day, where they profess their faith to the whole, the entire third base side of the stadium fills up with Christians and they do Gospel Proclamation Day right before the game. 0.79
00:07:29.000 I will give credit.
00:07:31.000 What was the Dodgers player that put CK on his hat?
00:07:33.000 That was Blake Trinan.
00:07:34.000 That was, yeah, Blake.
00:07:35.000 That was cool.
00:07:36.000 That was cool.
00:07:36.000 Totally cool.
00:07:37.000 That was the only cool thing that Dodgers have done ever.
00:07:39.000 This is the thing that's funny about the Dodgers.
00:07:41.000 It's kind of like the San Francisco 49ers.
00:07:42.000 Like, I I grew up rooting for the 49ers, but then they had the whole Kaepernick thing, and I like burned the jersey.
00:07:49.000 I was one of those guys.
00:07:50.000 I burned the jersey.
00:07:51.000 And I've never gotten back in love with the Niners.
00:07:55.000 It's the team I grew up rooting for, okay?
00:07:57.000 But now I have to admit it's like this team that's in a totally woke city, but they got Christian McCaffrey, Brock Purdy, they got Bosa, they've got George Kittle.
00:08:08.000 Yeah.
00:08:08.000 I mean, they've got Debo Samuel.
00:08:11.000 This is a great team to root for. 1.00
00:08:13.000 That's because the most lib cities are only like white people. 0.98
00:08:16.000 They're coaches too. 0.96
00:08:19.000 I know.
00:08:20.000 The widest cities in America are the most lib.
00:08:22.000 I don't know if I can say this.
00:08:23.000 Is this going to get Danny in trouble?
00:08:25.000 I'll just say this.
00:08:26.000 You should see his fantasy team, who he drafted.
00:08:30.000 He's running an.
00:08:32.000 Anthropological experiment. 1.00
00:08:33.000 The whitey tight ends? 1.00
00:08:34.000 Yeah, well, he's got a lot of those. 1.00
00:08:36.000 Anyways, all right.
00:08:36.000 We're going to have a hard time talking about defense.
00:08:38.000 Wait, wait.
00:08:39.000 I feel like we're going to.
00:08:40.000 Speaking of tighties, speaking of tighties, I got it. 0.93
00:08:46.000 They're not whitey tighties.
00:08:47.000 They're fluorescent colors and pinks.
00:08:49.000 We want to talk about Shane Gillis.
00:08:51.000 Yes.
00:08:52.000 And this is going to be so much fun because we haven't covered it on the show at all.
00:08:56.000 True story.
00:08:56.000 I haven't seen it yet.
00:08:57.000 Oh, well, if you haven't seen it, let's just play the clip and we'll explain the controversy afterwards.
00:09:02.000 Sot won.
00:09:03.000 I'm all right.
00:09:06.000 I'm fine.
00:09:07.000 I got a couple things I'm dealing with.
00:09:08.000 I don't know.
00:09:10.000 I don't know.
00:09:12.000 I got to lose weight.
00:09:14.000 It's a bummer.
00:09:15.000 You know what I mean?
00:09:16.000 When you finally get so fat, you're like, all right.
00:09:19.000 Hit that fat rock bottom. 0.97
00:09:21.000 Some of you guys are probably fat as hell, right? 1.00
00:09:25.000 Hey. 0.99
00:09:26.000 You're just one guy.
00:09:28.000 But no, you hit that fat rock bottom. 0.99
00:09:30.000 My fat rock bottom sucked this year. 0.80
00:09:31.000 I was in a Bud Light commercial every 10 minutes. 0.97
00:09:35.000 I'd look up and see it on screen. 1.00
00:09:36.000 I'd be like, oh no, I look like a lesbian. 1.00
00:09:40.000 I try to go to a public gym. 0.99
00:09:41.000 Going to the public gym is a fat guy, especially in New York. 0.68
00:09:43.000 It's a nightmare, dude. 1.00
00:09:44.000 It's just the hottest gay guys you've ever seen. 1.00
00:09:47.000 They're jacked and they look at me. 1.00
00:09:48.000 They're like, yeah, right.
00:09:51.000 I know, dude. 1.00
00:09:52.000 Also, I haven't been to the gym in so long, I didn't know women just dress like whores now. 1.00
00:09:58.000 Look, I'm sorry. 1.00
00:09:59.000 There's no other way to describe it.
00:10:01.000 Have you seen it?
00:10:02.000 I've seen it.
00:10:02.000 The shorts.
00:10:04.000 Have you seen the shorts?
00:10:05.000 Those neon, they're like the only, they're like artificial bait colored.
00:10:12.000 The wrinkles go like around the cheeks and all combine at the butthole.
00:10:19.000 And don't look, you're not allowed to look. 0.54
00:10:21.000 For real, don't look because they are filming.
00:10:24.000 I'm in the background of like 10 TikToks right now.
00:10:34.000 No, all the equipment.
00:10:35.000 I haven't been in the gym as long as the equipment's changed.
00:10:37.000 It's all like kettlebells and rubber bands and rubs.
00:10:39.000 I'm not doing kettlebells, fat publicly. 0.95
00:10:45.000 I'd rather die.
00:10:49.000 All right, so I watched this and I thought it was hilarious.
00:10:51.000 And actually, it was funny because I saw like Spencer Pratt was like, hey, this week's SNL was actually funny.
00:10:56.000 Jack, didn't you tell me that it was actually funny?
00:10:59.000 Dude.
00:11:00.000 Yeah, you were one of those guys.
00:11:01.000 Yeah, we were talking about the other day and I was like, so I saw.
00:11:05.000 It wasn't that sketch.
00:11:06.000 It was the um, it was like the AC repair heating and cooling, the AC repair one.
00:11:11.000 So that was going super viral on X.
00:11:15.000 And then I just scrolled through and I was like, my gosh, I mean, I used to love SNL, like, I was an every week watch live kind of viewer in the 1990s and then in the 2000s.
00:11:25.000 And then I just got away from it because it just got so bad.
00:11:29.000 So I watched it too this week.
00:11:31.000 I watched like every single sketch and it was amazing, it was so good.
00:11:36.000 I only got like halfway through.
00:11:37.000 This caused a big uproar, though.
00:11:39.000 But when you watched that monologue, did you even predict?
00:11:43.000 I could not have predicted watching that monologue.
00:11:45.000 Oh, yeah, no.
00:11:46.000 You thought?
00:11:47.000 I was like, of course. 1.00
00:11:49.000 Everybody knows women dress like this. 1.00
00:11:51.000 Here's the funny part about it.
00:11:54.000 I don't think he was actually intentionally trying to offend her, offend women.
00:11:59.000 Oh, he did.
00:12:00.000 I know, but I actually think a lot of people are actually twisting this now to be like, yo, Shane Gillis is like. 0.83
00:12:08.000 You know, taking the holier than thou route on women.
00:12:12.000 And I actually said he's in like back of 10 TikToks.
00:12:15.000 I don't think he was saying that at all.
00:12:16.000 I think he was being like, this is actually really great.
00:12:19.000 I haven't been to, he's like supportive. 1.00
00:12:21.000 But listen, the women content creators on like TikTok and Instagram are losing their ever loving minds. 1.00
00:12:27.000 And this is the part that blew my mind. 1.00
00:12:30.000 This is so hard to watch.
00:12:31.000 It's so bad.
00:12:32.000 I don't know.
00:12:33.000 Well, we have multiple, so I don't know if this is the right one, but we'll go through all of them.
00:12:36.000 Stop 41. 1.00
00:12:37.000 Not every girl is dressing like a whore at the gym. 0.99
00:12:39.000 I am, though. 0.99
00:12:43.000 Sorry, I am. 0.99
00:12:45.000 I'm in a sports bra and booty shorts that my butt eats. 0.99
00:12:53.000 Yep. 0.99
00:12:55.000 Okay, so she confirms it.
00:12:56.000 Stop 42.
00:12:58.000 I'm not looking for attention at the gym.
00:13:01.000 I'm trying to work out.
00:13:04.000 Oh my God. 1.00
00:13:07.000 As if women don't already struggle to feel comfortable at the gym. 1.00
00:13:12.000 You gotta make a stupid. 1.00
00:13:13.000 Joke, and now I'm like, well, what do I wear? 1.00
00:13:16.000 I'm it's just like that for the podcast.
00:13:20.000 Let's make sure we mute some of the alrighty.
00:13:22.000 Uh, yeah, the best part about that, which you guys can't hear, is that Angelo is getting extremely exasperated after each of those unchecked f bombs that got.
00:13:32.000 I know, because apologize if anyone's listening with children at home.
00:13:35.000 Um, we we kind of added that last minute, we usually bleep them out.
00:13:39.000 Apologies for that, but here we go.
00:13:40.000 Uh, stop 43, just so we're clear. 0.78
00:13:45.000 If your response to a mediocre comedian on national television objectifying women's bodies is to call him fat or gross or you've never stepped foot in a gym, that's fat phobia.
00:14:01.000 When you use fat as an insult, you're telling every person who's reading this or seeing this or hearing this that their body is something that is humiliating and they should be ashamed of it. 0.82
00:14:13.000 No, literally.
00:14:15.000 They're literally making musicals about this.
00:14:17.000 I kid you not.
00:14:18.000 This is.
00:14:19.000 This is how much of an uproar this has caused.
00:14:21.000 Sot 3.
00:14:22.000 Is Shane Gillis funny or just a bully with some jokes?
00:14:25.000 Can he make people laugh without putting down other folks?
00:14:28.000 You might say comedy's an omelette that's made with broken yolks.
00:14:31.000 Oh, why's the yoke of all shame jokes about all the same groups? 1.00
00:14:35.000 If you're a woman. 0.97
00:14:37.000 Or if you're gay. 0.94
00:14:39.000 Buckle in, Shane's got a lot to say. 0.99
00:14:42.000 If you're not white. 0.88
00:14:44.000 Or if you're trans.
00:14:46.000 He's offended, you're offended, it's hard to understand.
00:14:50.000 Comedy's just funny.
00:14:52.000 Comedy's not mean.
00:14:53.000 Comedy's just saying I lie whatever white guys think.
00:14:57.000 Comedy's not bigoted.
00:14:59.000 Comedy's just words.
00:15:01.000 Comedy is Shane Gillis sneaking in a bunch of slurs.
00:15:04.000 Wow, they're going to get a job on like a disinformation governance board or something.
00:15:08.000 What's that? 1.00
00:15:08.000 Gina Jankovic. 1.00
00:15:10.000 What's her name? 1.00
00:15:11.000 Gina Jankovic. 1.00
00:15:12.000 Gina Jankovic is going to hire them soon. 0.68
00:15:14.000 Yeah.
00:15:15.000 Oh, man.
00:15:16.000 That was kind of catchy, I will say.
00:15:18.000 Worse than AI.
00:15:19.000 Like, actually, AI would be better than AI.
00:15:21.000 They probably came up with it with AI and just really did it.
00:15:24.000 That was actually one of the most horrible things that I think I've heard.
00:15:29.000 And it caused physical pain.
00:15:31.000 But was it more horrible than the video before, though? 1.00
00:15:34.000 Which, you know, she was talking about objectifying people's bodies because she is. 1.00
00:15:37.000 That is certainly an object. 0.89
00:15:39.000 I mean, it's a different kind of disgust.
00:15:42.000 Like, one is visceral and one is more mental.
00:15:44.000 It's kind of hard to explain.
00:15:45.000 Like, one makes me want to vomit, and then the other makes me want to just jam things into my brain.
00:15:53.000 Like, it's hard to explain.
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00:16:56.000 So, here you go.
00:16:57.000 So, we thought it would be a really fun deal.
00:17:00.000 Jack, you missed this because you're obviously on the East Coast, but here at the office, we thought it would be a very fun anthropological experiment of our own to bring in ladies around the larger complex of Turning Point.
00:17:16.000 And some of the women here in our studio office.
00:17:20.000 And we conducted an experiment based on a variety of different gym attires. 0.68
00:17:26.000 And we wanted women to base this, right? 1.00
00:17:30.000 On a scale of boring to whoring. 1.00
00:17:34.000 Throw up the graphic.
00:17:35.000 Throw up the graphic. 0.95
00:17:37.000 Boring to whoring. 0.98
00:17:38.000 Yep. 0.98
00:17:39.000 Throw it up.
00:17:39.000 There it is.
00:17:40.000 Hey.
00:17:40.000 There we go.
00:17:41.000 I believe that was not even made with AI.
00:17:43.000 I think that was like old fashioned photographs.
00:17:45.000 It was old fashioned.
00:17:46.000 And guess what?
00:17:47.000 I also think this would be a really fun reality TV show. 0.63
00:17:51.000 The men have to date and see which men, like which version of the women that they would date. 0.66
00:17:58.000 Anyways, so this is. 0.73
00:17:59.000 This should have been the title, man.
00:18:01.000 This should have been the episode title.
00:18:04.000 What are you doing?
00:18:04.000 I know, right?
00:18:05.000 Well, Blake sometimes struggles with the copy.
00:18:08.000 Anyways, no, I'm kidding.
00:18:09.000 You do a great job. 1.00
00:18:10.000 Boring or whoring? 1.00
00:18:11.000 So we asked women would you find a certain outfit acceptable or unacceptable to wear at a gym? 0.81
00:18:20.000 So, and we got, we're not going to name and shame them, but we asked them yay or nay.
00:18:24.000 And there was a bunch of mixed calls here.
00:18:27.000 So, Foz, you're going to have to tell us what the ultimate outcome was.
00:18:31.000 And yeah, Jake says it was not AI at all there.
00:18:35.000 This is just old school.
00:18:36.000 That's how we had to make everything merely three years ago.
00:18:38.000 All right.
00:18:39.000 Shall we start?
00:18:40.000 And audience interaction in the chat is welcome.
00:18:45.000 Zuzu already says boring to whoring could be a weekly segment. 0.91
00:18:49.000 We'll see if it's any good.
00:18:50.000 All right.
00:18:50.000 So let's just dive right into it.
00:18:51.000 So each of these we had, do we have nine or 10 women ultimately rated on these things? 1.00
00:18:55.000 But we had, let's just throw up 26. 1.00
00:18:57.000 That's number one.
00:18:58.000 How did this one shake out?
00:19:00.000 Okay.
00:19:01.000 All right.
00:19:02.000 So.
00:19:03.000 I love how you guys described it.
00:19:05.000 Covers chest, high neckline, long sleeves, loose pants, no cleavage.
00:19:10.000 I think we covered that in like three check marks.
00:19:13.000 What is it?
00:19:13.000 Minimal skin shown.
00:19:15.000 All right.
00:19:15.000 You wouldn't be surprised.
00:19:17.000 Angelo, what was the verdict here?
00:19:20.000 10 to 0 boring.
00:19:21.000 This is going to be probably 10 to 0 boring, I believe.
00:19:23.000 All right.
00:19:23.000 Fair enough.
00:19:24.000 That's pretty predictable.
00:19:24.000 All right.
00:19:25.000 Next outfit, 27.
00:19:29.000 I would think that this would just be a boring one, right?
00:19:31.000 It's like the same thing.
00:19:32.000 Yeah.
00:19:33.000 It's like.
00:19:33.000 Yeah, all the same ratings.
00:19:35.000 Okay.
00:19:35.000 Wait, so a zero?
00:19:36.000 You changed the race, but you didn't actually change the race. 0.88
00:19:40.000 Wait, are we going for a 10 is good? 0.68
00:19:42.000 This one also is bad. 1.00
00:19:44.000 This is how many women rated this boring, not whoring. 1.00
00:19:47.000 I know, but is a 10? 0.89
00:19:48.000 To be fair, we didn't tell the women that it was going to be rated on boring to whoring. 0.99
00:19:51.000 We told them it was unacceptable or acceptable at the gym. 0.93
00:19:54.000 Yeah, but it's like zero to 10. 0.99
00:19:56.000 No, so 10 women voted this acceptable at the gym. 0.99
00:20:00.000 Yeah, okay. 1.00
00:20:00.000 We just put our own little marketing stuff. 1.00
00:20:02.000 Oh, but we didn't do a zero to 10 rating on it.
00:20:05.000 No, we thought about it.
00:20:06.000 It was 10 of them. 0.99
00:20:06.000 Someone is asking, is 10 a whore or is 10 a boor? 0.99
00:20:09.000 No, it's the number of votes. 0.98
00:20:10.000 It was a binary vote. 0.89
00:20:11.000 If you asked 10 women, is this acceptable or not?
00:20:15.000 We framed this very confusedly. 0.99
00:20:17.000 Yeah, it's fine. 0.99
00:20:17.000 We asked 10 women, is this boring or is this whoring? 0.99
00:20:21.000 Yeah, exactly. 1.00
00:20:23.000 10 women said, ding ding ding. 0.99
00:20:25.000 We're all super confused about what's going on because you're all super confused.
00:20:29.000 You should turn into the Thursday live stream so you can actually see the images.
00:20:32.000 We should have made this like a slide.
00:20:35.000 To the family, to like which one it is.
00:20:37.000 I know that's what I thought we were going to do, but yeah. 1.00
00:20:40.000 So that one was 10 women rated that boring or acceptable to wear at the gym. 1.00
00:20:45.000 So we zero rated it whoring. 0.50
00:20:47.000 So we need to guess, each of us needs to go around and guess how many of the 10 we thought said boring and how many said whoring. 0.98
00:20:54.000 That's a great idea. 1.00
00:20:55.000 See, Foz agrees.
00:20:56.000 So what was the idea?
00:20:57.000 We need to go around the horn and okay, fine.
00:21:00.000 Yeah, yeah, all right.
00:21:01.000 That's what we got to do.
00:21:02.000 Okay, all right.
00:21:03.000 There you go.
00:21:03.000 All right, so let's go on to.
00:21:05.000 I'd assume this is all in my other life.
00:21:06.000 All right, let's do 28.
00:21:07.000 Let's do 28.
00:21:08.000 This is the third one.
00:21:09.000 So this is okay.
00:21:10.000 Now we actually have like a small amount of bared midriff, as it were, but not a lot.
00:21:15.000 And then it's otherwise still a little less boring.
00:21:18.000 Nine to one.
00:21:19.000 It's a little less boring. 1.00
00:21:20.000 Women are predictable. 1.00
00:21:21.000 I still think it's going to be 10 0 boring. 1.00
00:21:23.000 I'm going to go nine to one because it shows down the graphic.
00:21:29.000 No, am I wrong?
00:21:30.000 No, I'm going to go eight to.
00:21:34.000 What was the result?
00:21:35.000 Jack.
00:21:36.000 It's 10 0. 1.00
00:21:36.000 I told you guys, guys, women are kind of herd animals. 1.00
00:21:39.000 They're going to all. 1.00
00:21:40.000 No, we made most of them do this.
00:21:42.000 It doesn't matter.
00:21:44.000 It says exposes midriff is on.
00:21:46.000 By the way, we have to explain this.
00:21:48.000 I think this is going to be a segment that people have to understand.
00:21:51.000 It does not work in audio, but the graph at all, really, this segment.
00:21:56.000 But it says exposes midriff is clearly on the category of whoring. 0.94
00:22:04.000 And her midriff is actually. 0.99
00:22:05.000 So let me say this. 0.93
00:22:07.000 Yeah, go ahead. 1.00
00:22:08.000 This woman looks like Kim Kardashian. 1.00
00:22:11.000 And if all she was doing is exposing above the belly button midriff, that's pretty boring. 1.00
00:22:17.000 Right. 1.00
00:22:18.000 It's also extremely tight.
00:22:19.000 We should talk about that.
00:22:20.000 It's not.
00:22:21.000 No, that is mild.
00:22:22.000 No, it's not.
00:22:23.000 Everything is tight except for those sweatpants.
00:22:26.000 So, this is a bigger question, though. 0.55
00:22:28.000 And so, a larger question we could ask is, was this all fundamentally flawed because we only asked women?
00:22:39.000 And are women going to be too appeasing of their sisters?
00:22:44.000 It would be their gym sisters. 0.98
00:22:45.000 I'm watching your methodology.
00:22:47.000 I demand a recount.
00:22:48.000 Yeah, it would be interesting.
00:22:50.000 We didn't have enough time.
00:22:51.000 We came up with this like two hours before the show, maybe an hour and a half.
00:22:54.000 All right, let's go ahead.
00:22:54.000 Wait, wait.
00:22:55.000 So, what's our evaluation of this?
00:22:57.000 Oh, wait, when we all predict, you predicted 8 2, and I don't know.
00:23:01.000 If it's only, you only have two options here, this is boring.
00:23:05.000 Yeah.
00:23:05.000 But if it's on a scale of 1 to 10, this is like probably like a 3 or a 4.
00:23:12.000 If porn is a 2 out of 10, to be honest.
00:23:15.000 I don't think that level of skin tight riff is boring.
00:23:18.000 No, Jack's right.
00:23:19.000 The skin tight thing is like, that is the same, that's what people stare at too.
00:23:24.000 When you see it, it's also on the list.
00:23:26.000 It's literally on the list.
00:23:28.000 Low neckline, cleavage shown, skin tight, short length, exposure to the drift.
00:23:32.000 MK Brem, by the way, asks, what is the male equivalent of this?
00:23:34.000 And, like, there really isn't.
00:23:35.000 I guess it'd be, like, gratuitously being shirtless at the gym.
00:23:38.000 No, no, no.
00:23:38.000 I have a thing at the gym.
00:23:40.000 If a dude wears one of those, like, skinny, like, tank tops and there's, like, nipple.
00:23:44.000 Yeah. 0.93
00:23:45.000 Like, the ridiculous, like, joke one. 0.82
00:23:47.000 Yeah. 0.85
00:23:47.000 Okay. 0.85
00:23:48.000 But even then, it's, like, you're not even really doing that.
00:23:52.000 But you're not doing that to be, like, sexually provocative.
00:23:54.000 You're kind of just doing that as, like, some weird.
00:23:56.000 No, you're doing, like, bodybuilders don't want to blot you because this is how he dresses.
00:24:00.000 The thing is, like, That's not how.
00:24:02.000 Are you saying this about me?
00:24:04.000 Somebody.
00:24:04.000 No, I said Blake.
00:24:05.000 I said Blake.
00:24:06.000 When Blake is off camera, this is exactly how he dresses.
00:24:08.000 I've seen him in those ripped off shirts.
00:24:11.000 Yeah.
00:24:11.000 Those ripped off shirts.
00:24:12.000 We're seeing him in those ripped off shirts. 0.98
00:24:14.000 And Blake loves to expose his midriff. 0.93
00:24:17.000 Now, you know what's weird, too? 0.96
00:24:19.000 Jack, you just make things up.
00:24:20.000 I'm going to admit, I don't go to the gym.
00:24:23.000 I've seen it, folks.
00:24:24.000 I've seen it.
00:24:26.000 You are next to a gym.
00:24:27.000 You have no excuse.
00:24:27.000 I don't go ever to the gym.
00:24:28.000 But I will say this.
00:24:30.000 I do, like what Shane Gillis said.
00:24:32.000 There are a lot of weird dudes at the gym that wear like bike shorts and weird stuff at the gym.
00:24:37.000 Yes.
00:24:38.000 Like, that's the weirdest thing in my life.
00:24:40.000 Like, I don't want to go to the gym where there's like dudes walking around with skin tight bike shorts.
00:24:45.000 That's like the, that's the obvious.
00:24:47.000 It's like they're putting, yeah, yeah, that is weird.
00:24:49.000 Yeah, that is weird.
00:24:49.000 On the gym equipment.
00:24:50.000 That's the thing, too. 0.94
00:24:51.000 It's like you're, it's like basically bare butt on a gym equipment. 1.00
00:24:55.000 Like, I'm not sitting on a piece of gym equipment that, that like, like what Shane just said is like gay guys walking around and. 0.99
00:25:03.000 Oh, dude. 1.00
00:25:04.000 Like bike shorts in the shower.
00:25:05.000 Like, none of that's interesting.
00:25:07.000 I know.
00:25:07.000 That's not like.
00:25:08.000 It's like one step.
00:25:10.000 It's like, what's the difference between briefs and bike shorts?
00:25:12.000 It's like, there's like the fabric.
00:25:14.000 Like, it's pretty much the same.
00:25:16.000 Okay, this is funny.
00:25:17.000 This is funny.
00:25:18.000 Actually, we should play this clip now.
00:25:19.000 Jeff Dye.
00:25:20.000 Should we take a break from the.
00:25:21.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:25:22.000 Because the Jeff Dye touches on what you just said, Jack.
00:25:24.000 So here we go.
00:25:25.000 Clip four. 1.00
00:25:26.000 I like looking at the ladies at my gym, right? 1.00
00:25:28.000 But then they get all mad.
00:25:29.000 And I'm like, I came to work out, not be checked out.
00:25:33.000 I think they want to be looked at.
00:25:35.000 That's what I think, judging by what they wore.
00:25:37.000 When they went to the gym, right?
00:25:39.000 Yeah, they put on full makeup, right?
00:25:43.000 They got a sports bra, which is underwear, not outerwear, I'm sure of it, right? 0.96
00:25:48.000 Spandex shorts that say juicy on the butt, right? 0.90
00:25:52.000 They're all confused. 0.89
00:25:54.000 Why is everyone staring at me?
00:26:07.000 You don't see guys all confused doing squats and jog straps, like, why is everyone staring at me?
00:26:14.000 That's weird.
00:26:16.000 Oh, that fell out.
00:26:20.000 So, you know what's interesting that follows along these lines, too?
00:26:24.000 So, I have a gym in my neighborhood, my block.
00:26:27.000 And our church, our pastor, essentially, is the number one place that's like, The epicenter for like cheating, for scandals, for everything is the gym.
00:26:41.000 Yeah.
00:26:42.000 And I mean, it's even like this is a known thing.
00:26:44.000 It's not even just that what they wear to the gym. 0.80
00:26:46.000 It's that, as far as wanting to be checked out, a real phenomenon that a lot of women do is like they'll pay to join a more expensive gym. 0.56
00:26:54.000 And 100% a part of this that a lot of them will admit to is that if it's a more expensive gym, that means you have higher end male clientele.
00:27:02.000 And so, for example, if you want to be noticed by a higher status male who might be a more compelling pet, I'd love the chat.
00:27:10.000 To chime in here, do you think it's more likely because we're very used to the narrative that men are predators and men are like on the prowl and they want to hook up and they want to catch women's attention?
00:27:20.000 But at the gym, is that inverted?
00:27:22.000 Is it more likely that a woman's there to get a guy? 1.00
00:27:26.000 I think so. 0.99
00:27:27.000 I actually think that's a real thing.
00:27:29.000 I'm telling you right now, the number one bar none place that a couple, a relationship should be concerned about is if, again, all of a sudden.
00:27:41.000 This is again, this is straight from a church leader that's in the like eight stage mile.
00:27:46.000 Is that all of a sudden your husband or wife is going to the gym all the time?
00:27:52.000 Yeah, yeah, at the exact same time.
00:27:54.000 And that's that's both that.
00:27:55.000 I mean, they're getting themselves one thing. 0.99
00:27:57.000 This is a very real thing in terms of how like women file for divorce and stuff. 1.00
00:28:03.000 Is like it's kind of a known thing that women like before they break off will usually have the next thing like kind of prepared or lined up already. 0.96
00:28:10.000 And so, like, they make themselves more attractive to help do that. 0.87
00:28:13.000 But then also, there's just the classic like.
00:28:15.000 They might literally be cheating with the gym.
00:28:16.000 Well, then there's also the like post breakup.
00:28:18.000 Or the random guy that they meet at the gym.
00:28:20.000 Yeah.
00:28:20.000 The post breakup glow up, though, is a real thing.
00:28:22.000 No, but yeah, so this is a real thing.
00:28:24.000 So, about the gym aspect, though, like it is a well known thing.
00:28:28.000 Cheaper gyms, I am 99% certain, have more male clientele.
00:28:32.000 Like I went to a Gold's gym when I lived in DC, and that's a relatively cheaper gym compared to, I can't remember the name of the other chains, but Gold's is like normal.
00:28:43.000 Planet Fitness.
00:28:43.000 Well, Planet Fitness is the absolute cheapest one.
00:28:45.000 But then Gold's gym is probably like the cheapest if you're just.
00:28:50.000 A guy who's pretty committed to fitness and like wants to get strong.
00:28:53.000 And that's a heavily male gym.
00:28:55.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:28:55.000 And then, but you get those more expensive ones, you get more female clientele. 1.00
00:28:59.000 And this is a known thing.
00:29:00.000 Like sometimes advice to men who are saying, oh, if you want to find more women at the gym, join a more expensive gym.
00:29:06.000 Wait, but hold on.
00:29:06.000 Ryan's right, though.
00:29:07.000 Ryan says it's because women pay to get away from creepy men. 1.00
00:29:10.000 That's true. 1.00
00:29:11.000 Yeah.
00:29:11.000 There's a bit of that, but that's true.
00:29:14.000 What's that mean?
00:29:14.000 Pay to get away from the inverse of pay to get away from creepy men is pay to be nearer.
00:29:19.000 It's probably desirable men.
00:29:22.000 Jack, sorry, I cut you off.
00:29:22.000 Correct.
00:29:23.000 No, that's exactly right.
00:29:24.000 That's exactly what I was going to say.
00:29:25.000 Because we're not at the Equinox.
00:29:28.000 Yes, that's the Equinox.
00:29:30.000 We've been talking about this topic for a long time, but we haven't actually committed the thought crime on here.
00:29:37.000 It's like, why is it?
00:29:38.000 So, why was it that it was so bad for Shane Gillis to say this, and yet women were going after Sydney Sweeney like crazy?
00:29:48.000 We remember this, saying that she did the same thing because being too revealing.
00:29:53.000 And it's why, you know, why is it that Shane Gillis can say the same thing, but he's in trouble?
00:29:59.000 He's not allowed to say that. 0.98
00:30:00.000 And a lot of this comes down to it's that there's a lot of these left wing feminist women who want to have it the same way. 1.00
00:30:09.000 They want to have this double standard where they can do whatever they want, but also you're not allowed to criticize them. 1.00
00:30:14.000 So they can dress however they want. 0.99
00:30:17.000 Women can go and do whatever they want and dress however they want unless another woman calls them out. 1.00
00:30:25.000 And that's the problem. 0.93
00:30:29.000 Another thing that feeds into this all the way is like a very true thing is that.
00:30:34.000 Kind of, this actually gets at a degree of, I don't know if dishonesty is the right word, but like deception that is actually just kind of latent in a lot of male female interactions, which is women all know that their attractiveness is one of their biggest assets, one of their biggest weapons, but they're also supposed to be pretty ambiguous about it.
00:30:55.000 Like you're not supposed to just aggressively use your sexuality, use your attractiveness to get things that you want.
00:31:02.000 We all know this happens.
00:31:04.000 It is 100% understood that this takes place, but you're not supposed to be super obvious about it.
00:31:09.000 In the same way that, generally, for example, like we all know that wealth has a lot of power.
00:31:15.000 If you have a lot of money, you're able to get what you want.
00:31:16.000 But it's very crass to just like overtly say, I have a bunch of money.
00:31:20.000 Give me exactly what I want in this like social situation, for example.
00:31:24.000 I believe, Blake, I believe there was a certain locker room talk comment that was made by our president back, or at least that surfaced in 2016.
00:31:35.000 Referring to exactly what you're talking about.
00:31:38.000 But that's the point that he was making in that comment, which I'm not going to repeat.
00:31:42.000 But the point that he was making is when you're rich, when you're rich.
00:31:46.000 Yeah.
00:31:47.000 All right.
00:31:47.000 Hold on.
00:31:47.000 Let's keep going with the rating system.
00:31:49.000 I think, do we have like a medium one?
00:31:51.000 Number five.
00:31:52.000 Go to 30.
00:31:53.000 Stop 30.
00:31:57.000 All right.
00:31:58.000 All right.
00:31:58.000 So this one's funny because there's no bared midriff, but lower cut top.
00:32:02.000 Yeah.
00:32:03.000 I would say this is going to be another question.
00:32:05.000 Let's describe this for the people who can't see it.
00:32:07.000 Well, it's a lower cut top.
00:32:10.000 So, you got top, full sleeves. 0.99
00:32:12.000 You got the beginning of boobs. 0.98
00:32:14.000 So, your cleavage is starting to poke out. 1.00
00:32:17.000 Yeah.
00:32:17.000 And it's very skin tight.
00:32:19.000 It's a pretty, it's a pretty, it kind of looks like a, if you color that, it's pretty modest.
00:32:23.000 If you color that bright blue, it would look like a crappy superhero outfit from like a low budget superhero adaptation.
00:32:29.000 Here's the deal. 0.80
00:32:30.000 If I saw a girl wearing this, I would think she's at least trying to be modest. 1.00
00:32:34.000 Yeah.
00:32:35.000 I don't feel like I rate about this or anything.
00:32:37.000 I would say, boy, I don't either.
00:32:38.000 This is like, it's super tight on top, super tight on bottom.
00:32:41.000 And that's it.
00:32:42.000 I'm going to guess this is going to be 9 to 1.
00:32:46.000 Based on the way they're rating everything, I'm going to say 10 0. 0.68
00:32:48.000 I can't see her from here, but is she Middle Eastern? 1.00
00:32:52.000 Because this would definitely get her killed. 1.00
00:32:54.000 She looks black. 1.00
00:32:54.000 She looks black. 1.00
00:32:55.000 Oh, she's black. 1.00
00:32:56.000 All right.
00:32:56.000 What is it, Angelo?
00:32:57.000 Oh, it's 10 0.
00:32:58.000 It's 10 0.
00:32:58.000 I told you.
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00:34:15.000 All right, let's go to the next one.
00:34:19.000 No, let's do, I don't know if we can do, let's do number seven. 0.96
00:34:22.000 I'm told this is a pretty 50 50 one. 0.96
00:34:24.000 All right.
00:34:25.000 So I want to see, give it away.
00:34:27.000 Well, not, not, all right.
00:34:28.000 Do, do, do, um, What is this?
00:34:30.000 32.
00:34:32.000 Okay, here we go.
00:34:32.000 Now we're talking.
00:34:34.000 Okay, there we go.
00:34:34.000 All right, so describing it for people listening on audio, this is.
00:34:37.000 Oh, come on. 1.00
00:34:39.000 She's a whore. 1.00
00:34:40.000 She's a whore. 1.00
00:34:41.000 This is basically like a. 1.00
00:34:44.000 It's a sports bra, basically, with skimpy little straps, but it's a full covered, like, basically Lululemon bottom, okay?
00:34:52.000 This is your standard DC lobbyist.
00:34:54.000 Dude, this is the gym and beast that I go through.
00:34:57.000 This is DC. 0.99
00:34:57.000 There's a lot of girls like this all over DC. 0.99
00:35:00.000 This is. 1.00
00:35:00.000 All over DC. 1.00
00:35:01.000 This is.
00:35:02.000 The real scandalous part is the bottom tattoo. 0.81
00:35:04.000 See, here's what the lobbyists have on just underneath the fake pencil skirt, you know, whatever they wear over to go see.
00:35:13.000 And then they whip it off, and this is what they're wearing all around D.C.
00:35:16.000 It's terrible.
00:35:17.000 Now, I'm telling you, every lobbyist, Jack, explain to me.
00:35:22.000 All over.
00:35:23.000 Are you like going to lobbying meetups?
00:35:24.000 No, I'm saying, So, I should say there's three waves of them in D.C. One of them is the early morning joggers or yoggers.
00:35:42.000 I don't know if it's a soft jay.
00:35:43.000 And then there's the ones who do this in the middle of the day and they'll dress like this in the office and they're like, oh, I'm going for a jog.
00:35:50.000 And then they just go out and they come back.
00:35:53.000 And then there's the ones who do it at the end of the day.
00:35:55.000 So you see herds of them just all over Capitol Hill, K Street.
00:36:01.000 And you need to stay away from them.
00:36:02.000 You need to stay completely away from them because they are evil.
00:36:05.000 They're completely and utterly evil.
00:36:08.000 And I used to talk about this even before Lindsey Clancy.
00:36:12.000 I've told friends about this that if we're in DC together, and I was like, you see them, they're very, very fit, but you have to remember, evil, completely evil.
00:36:19.000 I think this one is probably 6'4.
00:36:21.000 Jack, what's your guess?
00:36:23.000 6'4. 0.93
00:36:23.000 I think six women rated this as acceptable. 0.93
00:36:25.000 Well, again, so you're asking me to guess what other women at the turning point show. 0.96
00:36:31.000 That's the whole point. 0.77
00:36:33.000 Jack, this whole debate, this whole controversy is women on women. 0.85
00:36:36.000 Women are mad at Shane because they want to be able to be a woman. 0.80
00:36:39.000 What's funny about this? 0.90
00:36:40.000 But again, like, I.
00:36:42.000 I said I question the methodology of the whole thing because, again, we are guys and Shane Gillis is a guy.
00:36:47.000 I rate this as a.
00:36:48.000 And men will criticize women. 0.60
00:36:49.000 I rate this.
00:36:50.000 Women don't always criticize women the same way.
00:36:53.000 I rate this as a woman.
00:36:54.000 I would say, I think it's going to be.
00:36:56.000 I think only two say that this is boring.
00:36:59.000 I think it's going to be.
00:37:00.000 I think it's going to be. 0.75
00:37:02.000 I think it's going to be 6'4 whorish. 0.99
00:37:04.000 And I'm going to say, one thing that's funny about this is I do think, like, frankly, a woman's bust size is going to determine how they evaluate it. 0.99
00:37:12.000 We have a good video. 1.00
00:37:13.000 If she.
00:37:14.000 If she had not much going on there, I think no one would be bothered at all.
00:37:18.000 Oh, so you think.
00:37:20.000 All right, this is.
00:37:20.000 Hold on.
00:37:21.000 I think it's better than if she's more.
00:37:23.000 All right, then this is more.
00:37:24.000 Angela, what's the reveal on this one?
00:37:27.000 What's the reveal on this one?
00:37:28.000 5 5.
00:37:29.000 5 5.
00:37:31.000 Okay, I said 4 6.
00:37:31.000 I thought this was an 8 2.
00:37:34.000 She's hoing. 1.00
00:37:36.000 She's hoing. 0.96
00:37:37.000 I mean, most of the X's here, it checks the boxes low neckline, cleavage shunt, skin tight, exposed midriff, more revealing materials. 0.87
00:37:45.000 I mean, that's pretty bad.
00:37:46.000 All right, hold on.
00:37:47.000 Let's just.
00:37:47.000 Wait, we've got this.
00:37:48.000 What's the difference between.
00:37:49.000 Shane Gillis, what's the difference between skin tight and more revealing materials?
00:37:54.000 Are you talking like fishnets?
00:37:55.000 Thicker.
00:37:56.000 Are you talking like cutaways?
00:37:58.000 What is the difference?
00:37:59.000 I think thicker stuff.
00:38:00.000 I don't know.
00:38:01.000 Okay, hold on.
00:38:02.000 So, somebody made the comment that bust size matters when it comes to this outfit.
00:38:06.000 I'm not, I don't agree, but there was a video that, Kylie, just play the video that we're talking about. 0.99
00:38:12.000 Go ahead and play this. 0.94
00:38:14.000 You get on national television and call women whores for their workout clothes. 1.00
00:38:19.000 And, SNL, you gave that shit to your stage. 1.00
00:38:22.000 I wear bikinis on the internet most of the time. 1.00
00:38:24.000 I get that exact material from men in my comments for free.
00:38:27.000 Yes, and I'm judging your.
00:38:28.000 Joke because it's not good. 1.00
00:38:30.000 The punchline is that a woman showing skin deserves contempt. 1.00
00:38:33.000 What an embarrassing thing to need an entire national television audience to hear. 1.00
00:38:38.000 Is she trolling us? 1.00
00:38:39.000 Is she trolling us? 0.93
00:38:40.000 She knows exactly what she's doing.
00:38:42.000 This is every.
00:38:44.000 I also want to.
00:38:46.000 Yeah.
00:38:46.000 This is a gratuitous bounce.
00:38:48.000 I mean, it is the shirt. 1.00
00:38:49.000 The Chinese want you to watch that. 1.00
00:38:51.000 What's up, Jack? 1.00
00:38:52.000 No, I need to explain something about this because notice she's using the high angle, right?
00:38:58.000 Young kings, you must beware. 0.97
00:39:00.000 The high angle selfie, and she's using the high angle selfie here because she's hiding things, she's hiding something that you don't want to see. 0.99
00:39:11.000 And no, she's obviously showing you something she wants to see, but she's also hiding something she doesn't want you to see, and that is, of course, her waist size.
00:39:20.000 Oh, yes, yes, the high angle selfie.
00:39:24.000 Young Kings, be careful.
00:39:25.000 All right, let's go.
00:39:27.000 What's another?
00:39:27.000 What's uh, they said to they said we should uh do 33 now, all right, do 33.
00:39:32.000 And so, does this escalate? 0.79
00:39:34.000 All right, is this boring or whoring? 0.99
00:39:36.000 Now, this is an interesting one. 0.99
00:39:37.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:39:38.000 Because she has baggy gym shorts, which I actually think would be great.
00:39:43.000 Those are perfectly fine.
00:39:44.000 But that is a very scantily, that is a small top.
00:39:49.000 Yeah, this is an interesting one. 0.98
00:39:50.000 I would say I'm going to go 7 3 in favor of whoring. 0.99
00:39:55.000 I'm going to go 6 4 again. 0.96
00:39:57.000 This one, I don't know.
00:39:58.000 6 4 or whatever.
00:39:59.000 Yeah, baggy shorts don't seem that bad, I guess.
00:40:02.000 There's something that's different about those compared to like, Extremely tight yoga pants.
00:40:06.000 No, but that top is really tight.
00:40:07.000 I'm going like 3-3. 1.00
00:40:08.000 If your daughter went out like this to the gym, you'd be like, no, sweetheart, let's try a different top here. 1.00
00:40:15.000 Should have a different top, but yeah, I'm going to say this one was probably 5-5. 1.00
00:40:20.000 They're pretty conservative shorts.
00:40:21.000 I'm going to be honest.
00:40:22.000 They're pretty conservative shorts.
00:40:23.000 They are.
00:40:23.000 They really are.
00:40:24.000 But you're working out in a bikini top.
00:40:26.000 That's what this is.
00:40:27.000 Yeah, I mean, the bikini top piece is a little bit.
00:40:29.000 No, that's why I'm saying 5-5.
00:40:31.000 No. 0.94
00:40:32.000 I'm going 7-3 whoring.
00:40:34.000 Yeah, the last one was 5-5.
00:40:36.000 I'm going 7-3 too.
00:40:37.000 What do we got?
00:40:39.000 Oh, wow.
00:40:40.000 Nine to one. 1.00
00:40:41.000 Women thought this was nine to one. 1.00
00:40:43.000 Women were hostile. 1.00
00:40:44.000 It's the top. 1.00
00:40:45.000 They were hostile.
00:40:46.000 All right.
00:40:46.000 All right.
00:40:47.000 Women are just tearing each other apart. 1.00
00:40:48.000 Meet women apart. 1.00
00:40:48.000 As far as one to nine. 1.00
00:40:49.000 No one hates women like women. 1.00
00:40:50.000 So women don't like when other women wear this. 1.00
00:40:53.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:40:53.000 Is what we're learning from this. 1.00
00:40:55.000 Yes, exactly.
00:40:55.000 All right.
00:40:56.000 What's the next one that we should do?
00:40:58.000 So no one likes this except for Shane Gillis.
00:41:01.000 He was saying skip to 35 now.
00:41:02.000 So this is going to be, yeah.
00:41:04.000 Outfit 10.
00:41:05.000 35.
00:41:07.000 Okay.
00:41:08.000 All righty.
00:41:09.000 So this is the outfit that.
00:41:13.000 Shane was talking about.
00:41:13.000 This is definitely.
00:41:14.000 It has the.
00:41:15.000 Oh, come on.
00:41:16.000 Now, this is just. 1.00
00:41:17.000 The shorts that suck into your butt. 0.99
00:41:18.000 This one's funnier because it is like clearly a photo of a woman kind of being, you know, thoughtier or whatever. 1.00
00:41:26.000 And so. 0.89
00:41:26.000 She's got the Instagram foot. 0.89
00:41:28.000 Have you ever seen her do that Instagram foot? 1.00
00:41:29.000 They all do it with the toe. 1.00
00:41:31.000 They do that.
00:41:31.000 Yeah, this is going to be a Tenno.
00:41:33.000 It's an absolute Tenno.
00:41:34.000 Yeah.
00:41:34.000 We're getting the I can fix her comments in the.
00:41:37.000 Yeah.
00:41:37.000 Tenno.
00:41:38.000 Yeah.
00:41:38.000 Tenno.
00:41:39.000 Tenno.
00:41:39.000 Tenno.
00:41:40.000 Absolute. 1.00
00:41:40.000 Tenno ho. 1.00
00:41:41.000 Shane.
00:41:41.000 But this is the show.
00:41:43.000 So the shorts that she's wearing, though, what Shane was talking about, though.
00:41:46.000 Yeah.
00:41:46.000 Which are the.
00:41:47.000 That suck into your butt shorts. 0.99
00:41:49.000 I learned something. 1.00
00:41:50.000 Which, by the way, I want to say this.
00:41:52.000 When I've seen girls, and this is why I was, again, this is why I was bringing up the DC thing because I don't see that around here.
00:41:58.000 I don't see most women jogging in that. 0.89
00:41:59.000 I do, yeah. 1.00
00:42:00.000 Me and my wife's gym because we rushed here. 0.98
00:42:01.000 We had no idea what gym to go to.
00:42:03.000 We went to one of the big ones.
00:42:04.000 Okay, but I'm not talking about the gym.
00:42:05.000 I'm talking about even like jogging on the street.
00:42:07.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00
00:42:07.000 I think it's so weird when women wear these out in general. 1.00
00:42:12.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:42:12.000 But I think it's even weirder when they're jogging in these. 1.00
00:42:16.000 Yeah.
00:42:16.000 Because number one, that can't be comfortable.
00:42:18.000 And number two, like, why are you, like, again, we've heard about it.
00:42:23.000 It's terrible, but people get, Like murdered on the street, like it, they get stalked and they get, you know, again, we've heard about it.
00:42:31.000 It happens in lots of different places where they get drug off by a psychopath who like murders women.
00:42:37.000 Why would you wear this out?
00:42:40.000 And again, I've seen it here, I've seen it in DC, I've seen it on the street.
00:42:45.000 I know they do it.
00:42:46.000 And then back east, you're right. 0.99
00:42:48.000 I was just from back east, and women do dress really provocatively in New York. 0.95
00:42:52.000 It's like it's like it's like they because they feel comfortable because there's so much around. 0.79
00:42:55.000 Wait, Andrew, Andrew, you were just in New York, right?
00:42:58.000 Can I ask you a question?
00:43:00.000 Um, because I noticed this when I was up for the UN, um, the General Assembly, I noticed something in New York, and I wonder if you saw this if you know the same thing, just like walking around the street, that kind of thing.
00:43:11.000 Um, everyone was skinny, every single person I walked into was skinny.
00:43:15.000 I did not see any any chunguses or, or yeah, I don't know.
00:43:22.000 I don't, I didn't see any, I didn't see any, any, any big girls, I didn't see any big girls at all.
00:43:27.000 Well, that's a whole other, that's a whole other thought crime here, Jack.
00:43:30.000 Is does weight.
00:43:31.000 Directly implicate the way you're going to judge us.
00:43:35.000 Fah says we should play outfit. 0.98
00:43:37.000 Well, my question is, though, is do you think where'd all the big girls go? 0.95
00:43:41.000 My thought was, is it Ozempic?
00:43:44.000 Is Ozempic and the semiglutides, is that just sweeping everywhere?
00:43:48.000 Well, in New York, 100%.
00:43:49.000 New York's always been a thin city relative to others.
00:43:52.000 Because they walk.
00:43:53.000 Yeah, they have to walk everywhere, and it's a high income city. 1.00
00:43:57.000 He says we should be in New York before, and I see some big Berthas up there. 1.00
00:44:02.000 You don't see that many Tortas in New York. 1.00
00:44:05.000 All right. 1.00
00:44:05.000 This was apparently one of hot debate amongst the ladies. 1.00
00:44:09.000 That's interesting, especially because, like, does pink make it somehow more aggressive, even though it's just a colorful?
00:44:15.000 This is a two piece.
00:44:16.000 Yes, it does.
00:44:17.000 It's an ensemble piece.
00:44:18.000 It's very skin tight, but it is not like a bikini top.
00:44:22.000 It's more of like a.
00:44:23.000 It's a much better top.
00:44:25.000 This is very standard gym apparel.
00:44:28.000 Not just gym apparel, but also feel very comfortable to post on Instagram.
00:44:33.000 Like, I know a lot of friends.
00:44:36.000 Again, I've been surprised, like, fairly conservative friends.
00:44:39.000 Yeah.
00:44:39.000 We will post.
00:44:40.000 Conservative women do this stuff too, just to be very clear. 1.00
00:44:43.000 I'm going to say 5 5. 1.00
00:44:44.000 And again, no hate, but I think women feel very comfortable in this. 0.99
00:44:48.000 I bet this is like a 3 7.
00:44:51.000 Yeah, I'll go.
00:44:52.000 I'll split it.
00:44:52.000 I'll say 4 6.
00:44:54.000 4 6.
00:44:55.000 4 6 in favor.
00:44:56.000 First number is boring.
00:44:57.000 Okay.
00:44:58.000 I bet most think that this is boring.
00:45:00.000 Okay.
00:45:01.000 So you're saying 7 is boring.
00:45:02.000 This is clearly more conservative than some of these.
00:45:03.000 You're saying 5 5.
00:45:04.000 Jack? 0.99
00:45:05.000 I'm just telling you, the number of women I've seen post this, I think women think that this is perfectly fine. 1.00
00:45:10.000 Oh, look at Fuz. 0.99
00:45:11.000 Wait, we got to get Jack's. 0.68
00:45:12.000 What do you think?
00:45:12.000 Don't look at the chat.
00:45:13.000 These women would give me a reason. 1.00
00:45:15.000 This would be five five if that was black instead of pink. 1.00
00:45:18.000 I was gonna say, uh, well, I was gonna say three to seven.
00:45:22.000 Hoenn, you got it.
00:45:25.000 Wait, no, did I inverted seven to three?
00:45:28.000 I was wrong. 1.00
00:45:29.000 Horing, it was the women. 1.00
00:45:30.000 Wow, hooring, hooring takes the decay. 1.00
00:45:33.000 Horing takes no, that's what I just said.
00:45:35.000 Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying.
00:45:36.000 We just gotta get these out of ten.
00:45:37.000 We gotta score this out of ten next time.
00:45:39.000 I know this is this is very confusing.
00:45:41.000 Three boring, seven hoaring.
00:45:42.000 All right, no, it was women thought this was inappropriate to wear at the gym by a margin of seven to three.
00:45:48.000 And then, oh, so this is what, okay.
00:45:52.000 Do we have one more, though?
00:45:53.000 You guys said we should do 38 next, right?
00:45:55.000 All right, do 38, and that'll be the last one.
00:45:59.000 Okay, 38.
00:46:00.000 See, this is like barely even different from the previous one.
00:46:04.000 Like, it's just, okay, it's longer, it's like full pants, but they're super skin tight.
00:46:10.000 Oh, of course.
00:46:11.000 Of course, that's why we're doing that one.
00:46:13.000 I'm going to say this is 10 0 boring.
00:46:18.000 That's so boring.
00:46:20.000 Listen, you guys, I didn't.
00:46:21.000 Okay.
00:46:22.000 What is Zuzu pedal?
00:46:23.000 You boys won't understand this.
00:46:24.000 What's that? 1.00
00:46:25.000 That bra doesn't give enough support if she is over a B. 1.00
00:46:28.000 It's whorish, smaller than a B cup size, boring. 1.00
00:46:31.000 Oh, I see.
00:46:32.000 She's saying if it's over a B cup, it's whorish, smaller than a B cup, boring.
00:46:38.000 Guys, the new press secretary can wear whatever she wants, all right?
00:46:42.000 She's fine. 1.00
00:46:43.000 She's in great shape. 1.00
00:46:43.000 Leave her alone. 1.00
00:46:44.000 She's in great shape.
00:46:48.000 Don't come at the new press secretary, all right?
00:46:50.000 That was 10 0 boring.
00:46:52.000 Boring.
00:46:52.000 Yeah.
00:46:53.000 Totally appropriate.
00:46:54.000 Jack and color matters.
00:46:56.000 So, but going back to that, was very similar to the one previous.
00:47:00.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:47:01.000 Which is that most women, I'm just going to tell you, most women, I have some friends that are very conservative on like on Instagram and stuff like that. 0.98
00:47:08.000 Friends' wives, things like that.
00:47:10.000 I've seen them post that on the regular, and you can tell they feel really good about themselves.
00:47:15.000 Like when they feel, and I think that this is like it to me, I think it's more about them wanting to be like, I like how I look.
00:47:23.000 I want to wear something that's like pushing the envelope a little bit.
00:47:26.000 That's where that came down to like a five five.
00:47:28.000 You know what?
00:47:28.000 I learned something, though.
00:47:30.000 Jack, did you know this? 0.88
00:47:32.000 You know how women's bras have an underwire, right? 0.93
00:47:36.000 It's a supportive thing. 0.99
00:47:37.000 They are now making gym shorts with the underwire for the gluteus maximus.
00:47:44.000 Wow.
00:47:45.000 That is a real thing that they're doing.
00:47:46.000 Is that a wire?
00:47:47.000 Wow. 0.96
00:47:48.000 Well, it's not a wire, but it's like a firmer strip to push up the butt. 0.99
00:47:53.000 Well, if you pay for a fake butt, you've got to have a wire to push up the butt. 1.00
00:47:56.000 Well, I don't even think these women necessarily are doing that, but it is like a supportive thing. 1.00
00:48:00.000 No, a lot of women are. 1.00
00:48:01.000 Well, the stuff of the new boobs is people buying.
00:48:03.000 Andrew, are you wearing them right now?
00:48:06.000 Yeah, you know what?
00:48:06.000 You know, I feel obliged.
00:48:09.000 I feel obliged.
00:48:10.000 I'm just saying.
00:48:11.000 I could use a little more butt support.
00:48:13.000 I'm just saying.
00:48:14.000 I could use, as I'm going throughout my day, maybe I'll get it in my next suit.
00:48:17.000 I'll get it in the lab.
00:48:18.000 People don't understand the rigors of sitting in a broadcast chair all day.
00:48:22.000 You have no idea.
00:48:22.000 What were you going to say?
00:48:23.000 I was going to say, do you think Charlie would have rated all of these unacceptable?
00:48:27.000 I think he might have.
00:48:28.000 Yes.
00:48:28.000 He probably would have said just like actually very loose gym shorts and then like a shirt.
00:48:34.000 I think he would have rated it.
00:48:35.000 Yeah.
00:48:36.000 Basically, I think there is a legitimate problem with a lack of modesty and a normalization of a lack of modesty.
00:48:44.000 But I think, Jack, you were on to something really critical because the real thought crime is why is it happening?
00:48:50.000 And why is it happening in gyms? 0.89
00:48:52.000 And this is what's funny.
00:48:53.000 I think Shane Gillis.
00:48:54.000 It's in gyms, and it's the guys and girls thing it's who calls it out.
00:49:01.000 If a guy calls it out, then that guy's a misogynist, that guy's evil, that guy's everything.
00:49:05.000 If another girl calls it out, then that's like totally fine. 0.98
00:49:09.000 And because we saw girls doing that with Sydney Sweeney because they were losing their minds. 0.63
00:49:13.000 But Shane Gillis made the exact same point about just women randomly and female behavior in public that he's been saying.
00:49:22.000 And by the way, it's not like all females are doing this, by the way.
00:49:25.000 But he makes the point as a man, and suddenly he's not allowed to.
00:49:29.000 That's the real thought.
00:49:30.000 But I'll say this most of gym clothes were defined that we see today.
00:49:35.000 By the 80s.
00:49:36.000 So the 80s was when a lot of this started.
00:49:39.000 That's true. 0.83
00:49:39.000 And it really hasn't changed that much in what women wear since the 80s. 0.83
00:49:43.000 Now, to be fair, they're definitely showing more, I think, legs wise, and there's definitely. 0.77
00:49:49.000 It's tighter in some ways.
00:49:50.000 Do you look at an 80s outfit, like an 80s aerobics video?
00:49:54.000 They'll be wearing a tight outfit, and yet it just doesn't feel as aggressive or like a body contour.
00:50:00.000 Or a baggy shirt over the top of it.
00:50:02.000 But what Shane has pointed out that's a newer invention, again, is like.
00:50:07.000 The booty shorts.
00:50:09.000 What's the company that the Kardashians own?
00:50:11.000 It's called Skims.
00:50:13.000 Skims, skin, something skims, but like there's a lot of companies that do like the like skin tight everywhere, like super like intentionally drawing eyes to that.
00:50:26.000 Yeah, like that's over the top.
00:50:27.000 Well, but what's that's got to do with all this, Jack.
00:50:29.000 You have to give Shane Gillis his due because it's all a giant promotional scheme for his show, Tires, and he basically does the whole thing.
00:50:38.000 Tires is so good, yeah. 1.00
00:50:39.000 So we'll play the scene, but I love that it exposes that the women dress in a provocative way. 1.00
00:50:46.000 That would attract attention, but then they want to get mad at you for looking at them. 0.77
00:50:52.000 Which is the part I'm most fascinated about the psychology of this.
00:50:57.000 We'll play it though, SOT 2.
00:51:16.000 Hey, bro.
00:51:17.000 Hey, what's up?
00:51:18.000 Not cool.
00:51:20.000 What? 1.00
00:51:21.000 That's my girlfriend. 0.95
00:51:23.000 Nice, dude. 1.00
00:51:24.000 You think it's cool to just stare at girls in the gym? 1.00
00:51:28.000 No, I mean, I wasn't staring at her. 1.00
00:51:30.000 That's your girlfriend? 1.00
00:51:30.000 If I were you, I'd get her some slacks. 1.00
00:51:33.000 I mean, good for you for letting her out of the house like that. 1.00
00:51:34.000 If it was me, I'd have her in a burka, dude. 1.00
00:51:37.000 I'd be Sharia on her. 1.00
00:51:38.000 You need to leave, bro.
00:51:39.000 Come on, dude.
00:51:39.000 I'm not going to leave.
00:51:40.000 If everybody had to leave that licked their ass, this place would be a ghost town. 1.00
00:51:43.000 And we got another one. 1.00
00:51:46.000 This is the second guy we caught today leering at Brooke. 1.00
00:51:51.000 Yo, women shouldn't have to worry about what they wear to the gym. 0.97
00:51:54.000 Are you f***ing filming me, dude? 1.00
00:51:56.000 Don't use that machine. 0.99
00:51:57.000 It's a trap. 0.98
00:51:57.000 Yeah, no s***. 0.98
00:51:58.000 Where were you five minutes ago?
00:51:59.000 Pretty nice, though, right?
00:52:01.000 Do you have anything to say for yourself, bro?
00:52:05.000 I didn't know you were filming.
00:52:06.000 I wouldn't have said any of that stuff.
00:52:08.000 Yeah, objectifying women?
00:52:09.000 You know that's not right, right?
00:52:12.000 Yeah, yeah, of course.
00:52:13.000 It doesn't sound like you know that, because it sounds like that's exactly what you just did.
00:52:18.000 It's cool you let her dress like that outside.
00:52:20.000 And?
00:52:20.000 Sorry about all this tree of law stuff.
00:52:22.000 And?
00:52:22.000 Give me a second.
00:52:23.000 Oh, what's wrong with you? 1.00
00:52:25.000 Why were you staring at her ass? 1.00
00:52:27.000 Answer me. 1.00
00:52:28.000 Look at the camera.
00:52:29.000 Oh, yeah, you're scared.
00:52:31.000 Say you're sorry.
00:52:32.000 What else? 0.94
00:52:41.000 I want like Johnny Lawrence from Cobra Kai to just like come in and do a karate kick to that guy's face.
00:52:47.000 Like, but that's, you know, that type.
00:52:50.000 That type exists.
00:52:51.000 It's so bad.
00:52:51.000 It's so annoying.
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00:53:55.000 It's great that, like Shane, this is why I've said that you got to support tires because he's like the last guy doing actual offensive comedy.
00:54:04.000 And so not only does he go into the, you know, just the basic question of the apparel and, you know, how the dress is at the gym, but then he goes to the next level and he goes into this like ambush, TikTok culture, struggle session, all that stuff.
00:54:22.000 That's going on, which again, he was willing to put himself on a struggle session in order to trigger that same response because he knew that's what they would do.
00:54:32.000 Yeah, but that's it's so interesting, though, the female psychology because it does seem, and that obviously it's not all women, of course, but there is a certain type of feminist psychology, the feminist psychology that's right, that want to be free to dress as provocatively as they can at the gym, but then they would also get mad at you for mentioning that it's provocative or leering at it, which I don't know.
00:54:56.000 What other motivation you'd have other than you want to be looked at to dress like that? 0.98
00:55:00.000 It's just a fascinating modern conundrum.
00:55:04.000 Yeah, Foz brings up a good point.
00:55:06.000 The Cornell girl, Jane Doe, was a gym rat as well, which is big time, which is an interesting tie in.
00:55:13.000 All right.
00:55:15.000 I think we exhausted that one.
00:55:16.000 What do you guys think?
00:55:17.000 Let us know in the chat, by the way.
00:55:18.000 We want to watch for all your thoughts.
00:55:21.000 Good argument for a home gym, all of us.
00:55:24.000 But we're going back into the sports world.
00:55:26.000 This really had everyone amped up.
00:55:27.000 Today, except for Jack, because Jack doesn't follow sports.
00:55:31.000 College football is going to be ruined forever.
00:55:33.000 It will never be good again.
00:55:35.000 I don't think it's official, though, yet.
00:55:37.000 I was literally at a college football game last year.
00:55:41.000 It's almost official.
00:55:43.000 There's nothing more than Blake telling you you don't care about sports, Jack.
00:55:49.000 What's that supposed to mean?
00:55:50.000 I follow sporting events.
00:55:52.000 They are very close.
00:55:54.000 I had to sit down with my kids to talk about the Jalen Hurts news earlier today.
00:56:01.000 And.
00:56:01.000 And of course, this coming on the back of Nick Soriani just being a complete, you know, laughing stock across the entire internet for the past week.
00:56:13.000 Well, whatever it is, well, then surely, Jack, you know exactly what we're about to talk about.
00:56:18.000 I don't love college sports.
00:56:20.000 Oh, sounds like I was on your back, Jack.
00:56:22.000 You are big on like the Eagles, you're big on the Phillies.
00:56:26.000 Like every time that stuff comes up, you and I always have like a fun debate or a conversation about it.
00:56:29.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:56:30.000 I actually don't follow that.
00:56:31.000 I'm actually on the other side of you, man.
00:56:32.000 I checked out of college sports already.
00:56:34.000 Anyway, anyway.
00:56:35.000 The news is college football playoff is nearing a negotiated deal to have a 24 team college football playoff starting next year.
00:56:46.000 24 teams.
00:56:47.000 This is an abomination.
00:56:48.000 That would be three quarters of the NFL.
00:56:50.000 This is an abomination.
00:56:51.000 Why are you guys so against this?
00:56:52.000 Because it's an atrocity against college sports.
00:56:55.000 No.
00:56:56.000 How is it not?
00:56:57.000 No, it's everything that everybody's always wanted.
00:57:00.000 No, it is not.
00:57:00.000 For reference, we had four teams in the playoffs all of what, six years ago?
00:57:03.000 Yeah, nobody wanted to win 12.
00:57:05.000 Then it went to eight, 12 last couple of years, and now they want to take it to 24.
00:57:09.000 That would be.
00:57:09.000 Eight teams with a bye, and then 16 teams playing into those eight teams.
00:57:14.000 Wait, time out, guys.
00:57:15.000 Time out, guys.
00:57:15.000 You just want ASU to get in every year.
00:57:17.000 Yeah, of course.
00:57:18.000 I want ASU to have a good season to get in.
00:57:19.000 That's lame.
00:57:19.000 That's incredibly lame.
00:57:21.000 That means that the regular season doesn't matter anymore.
00:57:25.000 Put it this way.
00:57:26.000 That's true.
00:57:27.000 College football is 100% true.
00:57:28.000 No, it's 100% true.
00:57:29.000 It's the only sport in the country where week one, game one matters.
00:57:33.000 Guys, there are 200 and some odd Division I programs.
00:57:38.000 Are there?
00:57:39.000 For Division I programs?
00:57:40.000 Come on, we're really talking about like 50.
00:57:43.000 No, not in FBS, but.
00:57:44.000 There's like 50 teams that matter.
00:57:46.000 No, there's 60 something.
00:57:47.000 There are 138 teams in FBS.
00:57:49.000 Yeah, so there are 138 teams.
00:57:51.000 Yeah, but there's like, yeah, but half of the, more than half of those teams are in like the bullcrap conferences that don't matter.
00:57:56.000 Conference USA.
00:57:57.000 Okay, okay.
00:57:58.000 So a 24, so what's interesting about a 24 team playoff is nothing.
00:58:03.000 You could have some Cinderella stories.
00:58:05.000 Is that you're going to have some Cinderella stories.
00:58:06.000 It's just, it's everything that everyone loves.
00:58:08.000 Why don't we have every team in the playoff then?
00:58:09.000 Let me finish, Blake.
00:58:10.000 It's everything that everyone loves about March Madness.
00:58:12.000 No.
00:58:13.000 No.
00:58:14.000 Yeah.
00:58:14.000 No.
00:58:15.000 Here's the difference.
00:58:17.000 Everything that everyone loves about March Madness is now more accessible in the 2014 playoffs.
00:58:22.000 Get this.
00:58:23.000 No.
00:58:23.000 Everything.
00:58:24.000 Are we going to have four and five lost teams making it into the playoffs?
00:58:27.000 No, you're not.
00:58:28.000 Yeah, you will.
00:58:28.000 Yes, you will.
00:58:29.000 You think I'm wrong?
00:58:30.000 Okay.
00:58:30.000 Check the top 25 teams list from 2021.
00:58:34.000 Four lost teams.
00:58:35.000 You will have four lost teams, and there have been five lost teams that have finished in the top 25.
00:58:39.000 Let's look right now at the top 25.
00:58:41.000 It's not the whole season, though.
00:58:42.000 I know, but where we're at right now.
00:58:44.000 You should look at the ending rankings for last year.
00:58:46.000 Last year.
00:58:47.000 Yeah.
00:58:48.000 There were very few five lost teams in there.
00:58:51.000 I guarantee you.
00:58:52.000 There's no five lost teams.
00:58:58.000 Right now, the rankings that show for 2024, 2025, final rankings.
00:59:06.000 I'm checking 2022.
00:59:07.000 That's a really good example.
00:59:08.000 So this is week 14.
00:59:10.000 So this is after rivalry week, but before they go into the final Bulls.
00:59:14.000 NC State, Mississippi State, Texas, South Carolina, Notre Dame, LSU.
00:59:19.000 That is five teams in the top 25 that had four losses.
00:59:24.000 Five, four lost teams.
00:59:25.000 Yeah.
00:59:26.000 Wait, did I say five, six?
00:59:27.000 So there's only five teams out of five.
00:59:30.000 Six, six.
00:59:30.000 Sorry, I said five, six.
00:59:31.000 There's six teams. 0.98
00:59:32.000 Playoff with five.
00:59:33.000 Six teams.
00:59:34.000 Six teams in the top 24.
00:59:35.000 And that includes the championship game.
00:59:38.000 So?
00:59:39.000 Okay.
00:59:39.000 So they got into a championship game, so there were four or three lost teams going into a championship game.
00:59:44.000 Well, all right.
00:59:46.000 Last year, USC and Michigan were ranked 20th and 21st, and they both had four losses.
00:59:52.000 Iowa had four losses.
00:59:55.000 Yeah, because they went to championship games.
00:59:56.000 And then Alabama had four losses.
00:59:58.000 These teams went to championship games.
01:00:00.000 And TCU had four losses.
01:00:03.000 So that's a lot of four losses.
01:00:05.000 You should not be, if you have lost four games in the season, you should not be eligible to win a national title.
01:00:11.000 No.
01:00:11.000 Period.
01:00:11.000 We're at final rankings here of last year.
01:00:14.000 So let me make the pitch to you real quick.
01:00:16.000 Final rankings in 2014.
01:00:17.000 Let me make the pitch.
01:00:18.000 24, North Texas, 12 2.
01:00:23.000 Here's the thought.
01:00:24.000 So, no, hear me out.
01:00:26.000 You don't think that a North Texas or a Navy team, a really good Navy team, that's never going to make it into a 12, a top 12?
01:00:33.000 They're not going to make it into a top 12.
01:00:35.000 But they could win game one in a 24 team round robin.
01:00:42.000 So you have a Navy team last year that was ranked 23rd out of the final top 25.
01:00:48.000 That team could for sure have a Cinderella story, win a game one.
01:00:53.000 You know how else they can have a Cinderella story?
01:00:55.000 Win more games and finish in the top 12.
01:00:57.000 They can't.
01:00:58.000 They're at 12 2.
01:01:00.000 12 2?
01:01:01.000 Okay.
01:01:02.000 They couldn't have lost zero games, but lost one game.
01:01:05.000 Is that all of the teams that aren't in the top four in the big four conferences?
01:01:09.000 Have to win out 100% of their games.
01:01:13.000 And so if they get bought off to play a one tough game.
01:01:16.000 No, no, no, hear me out.
01:01:17.000 No, hear me out.
01:01:18.000 So if they get bought to play a tough team.
01:01:21.000 So the only way to make it into the top 25 as it is, you have to schedule tough teams to make it in.
01:01:29.000 But that's my point.
01:01:29.000 So if you schedule, so if like a Navy or another independent that is incentivized to go independent, plays, schedules like four or five really, really tough teams, FBS teams.
01:01:40.000 And they lose two, but they win two of those team games, and they make it, they crack like the top 20, they're not going to make the playoffs still. 0.99
01:01:48.000 That's stupid. 0.93
01:01:49.000 No, but you're going to have playoff games that are like underdogs favored by, or one team is favored by 30 points. 1.00
01:01:57.000 You can't do this.
01:01:58.000 Yeah, but that Navy team could have been legitimately good.
01:02:02.000 You're going to have college teams resting their best players.
01:02:04.000 Yeah, they'll rest starters.
01:02:05.000 100%.
01:02:06.000 This is enough teams in the playoffs that a team will rest at starters in rivalry week.
01:02:10.000 Because, oh, they have two losses.
01:02:12.000 They can't get a bowl game, but they're not going to get a top 25.
01:02:14.000 You know why they won't?
01:02:15.000 You know why they won't?
01:02:16.000 Because rivalry weeks are in their bonus contract, coach's bonus contract.
01:02:22.000 Okay.
01:02:22.000 Well, what if they stop doing that?
01:02:24.000 What if the coach just doesn't?
01:02:25.000 Why would they stop doing that?
01:02:26.000 What if it's not in his contract?
01:02:27.000 It might be in some contracts, but not in the contract.
01:02:29.000 I'm telling you right now.
01:02:30.000 What about the week before?
01:02:31.000 What about the week before?
01:02:32.000 Unlike you, I served in the prestigious role of on the board of regents, and I hired coaches, Blake, coaches.
01:02:41.000 Is that why ASU has been so bad for so long?
01:02:44.000 ASU had a good season.
01:02:45.000 ASU and Scataboo, yeah.
01:02:46.000 Had a good season.
01:02:47.000 No, this is before when I was on the board.
01:02:49.000 But every single team in America has bonuses written into college sports for, right?
01:02:55.000 That's what actually makes it cool versus a college football or a pro football.
01:02:59.000 There's no bonuses for, by the way, they're nearing a deal.
01:03:02.000 We should be very clear, nearing a deal.
01:03:04.000 So Jack is like, where's the thought crime here?
01:03:06.000 Because Jack always, Jack is, Jack doesn't like sports.
01:03:08.000 Jack doesn't like sports.
01:03:10.000 Jack, here's what I would say is the semblance of a thought crime.
01:03:14.000 They bring in NIL.
01:03:17.000 No, I left because you guys are so boring.
01:03:20.000 This topic is so boring. 1.00
01:03:21.000 You're ridiculous. 1.00
01:03:22.000 Like, where's the thought crime here? 1.00
01:03:23.000 You guys got to say something.
01:03:24.000 We're fighting over this because they.
01:03:26.000 So, but here's the thought crime here.
01:03:27.000 They used to want to limit how many games they played in college because they wanted to protect the health of the athletes because they were not getting paid.
01:03:37.000 They were amateurs.
01:03:38.000 And so they knew that some of these guys are going to go pro.
01:03:41.000 You got to protect their bodies, right?
01:03:43.000 Where they can make money.
01:03:45.000 Now you insert NIL.
01:03:47.000 These guys are making millions of dollars, some of the top 10.
01:03:51.000 Oh, man.
01:03:51.000 Danny's getting amped up.
01:03:52.000 What did you say, Danny?
01:03:57.000 All right.
01:03:59.000 But here's what I'll say.
01:04:00.000 No, but the problem is now that there's money involved, and Jack just left again.
01:04:05.000 Now that there's money involved, then now they don't care about the health of these kids because they're already making millions.
01:04:12.000 So now they're going to make as much money off of them as they can because that's all this is.
01:04:16.000 It's all about TV money.
01:04:17.000 It's all about what's going on with this.
01:04:19.000 No, it's not.
01:04:20.000 This is categorically the death of college football.
01:04:23.000 It is not.
01:04:23.000 College football with a 24 team playoff.
01:04:26.000 College football with a 24 team playoff.
01:04:28.000 Jack, you can snooze.
01:04:29.000 College football with a 24 team playoff is just a minor league.
01:04:33.000 Mute as Mike.
01:04:34.000 No.
01:04:34.000 College football with a 24 team playoff is just a minor league for the NFL.
01:04:39.000 It exists only for gamblers.
01:04:41.000 What do you think?
01:04:41.000 It exists only for.
01:04:43.000 What is March Madness?
01:04:44.000 Yeah, I don't like March Madness that much.
01:04:46.000 You don't like March Madness the entire time.
01:04:48.000 I have never filled out a March Madness.
01:04:50.000 Yeah, but in college basketball, there's upsets.
01:04:52.000 In college football, you can't have a team favored by three.
01:04:56.000 I just told you how you can have an upset.
01:04:58.000 There's been teams.
01:04:59.000 No, okay, here's what's funny.
01:05:00.000 Wait, wait, wait.
01:05:01.000 Time out.
01:05:01.000 Time out.
01:05:01.000 Time out.
01:05:01.000 Time out.
01:05:02.000 There's been teams that have never made the playoff that easily could have upset people.
01:05:06.000 Hey, by the way, by the way, look, I'm an ASU fan.
01:05:09.000 A few years ago, what happened?
01:05:11.000 ASU actually got into the top four because we won the Big 12.
01:05:15.000 Yeah.
01:05:16.000 And then we ended up having to play Texas, who was, I can't remember what the line was, but it was like two touchdowns or something.
01:05:25.000 And we brought it down to the last second.
01:05:27.000 We went into overtime, I believe.
01:05:29.000 Because Texas is always overrated.
01:05:30.000 And it was back and forth.
01:05:31.000 Yeah, but that's the point.
01:05:32.000 It's like we were in a Cinderella story with Scataboom.
01:05:35.000 We won the Big 12.
01:05:36.000 You're Big 12.
01:05:37.000 You can do whatever you want with Big 12.
01:05:39.000 But ASU is a once in every 20 years makes it to the playoffs.
01:05:42.000 Here's the thing.
01:05:44.000 But here's the point going back with this.
01:05:46.000 There are teams like North Texas, I brought up last year.
01:05:49.000 Navy.
01:05:50.000 There's like James Madison, JMU.
01:05:52.000 All right.
01:05:53.000 Hear me out.
01:05:54.000 Hear me out.
01:05:54.000 SMU, too.
01:05:56.000 We have Echo.
01:05:57.000 Yeah, but JMU lost by like 30 to Oregon two years ago.
01:06:00.000 I know, but hear me.
01:06:01.000 Because the structure, if you have more teams, you play worse teams in round one.
01:06:07.000 So here's what's funny to me, though, like legitimately about this whole conversation.
01:06:11.000 Tyler has never been more animated.
01:06:13.000 Yeah.
01:06:13.000 Jack has never sort of boycotted his team.
01:06:17.000 I just like how Jack has to get really defensive.
01:06:19.000 Like, I love sports because he has his Philly brand he has to protect, but he, in fact, doesn't like simple stuff. 0.97
01:06:25.000 And so he has to, like, because there's temple sucks. 0.98
01:06:28.000 I gave you the opportunity to go after the degenerate gamblers, and you guys totally cucked out. 0.99
01:06:33.000 I just said it was all for degenerate gamblers. 0.78
01:06:35.000 I was going for that. 0.74
01:06:37.000 I'm scoffing.
01:06:38.000 I'm scoffing.
01:06:39.000 This is not the first time I've done this.
01:06:41.000 SMU, I brought SMU. 0.94
01:06:42.000 SMU is one of those teams with NIL. 0.64
01:06:44.000 You have to do this.
01:06:45.000 No.
01:06:46.000 Because the real.
01:06:47.000 Where's the money coming from in NIL?
01:06:49.000 Is it ticket sales?
01:06:50.000 No, it's the schools raising the money and it's going to end up nonprofit money.
01:06:54.000 You want the big zoomed out thing?
01:06:56.000 We're going to lose America because there is nothing that white boomers would rather spend money on than just their college football team and paying salaries to these guys.
01:07:11.000 I would rather.
01:07:12.000 I would rather. 0.94
01:07:14.000 I would rather the white boomers spend money on this than just give it to the university. 0.88
01:07:18.000 Well, 100%. 0.74
01:07:19.000 But I would rather they, like, for example, a 100% real reason that they won't get rid of insane woke college programs is because the moment they start making noises about this, someone goes, We're going to have a harder time getting recruits for the football team.
01:07:34.000 You just got Jack back.
01:07:35.000 Jack, chime in on that.
01:07:37.000 By the way, people are asking in the chat, Yes, of course it is a MyPillow.
01:07:40.000 It is not the first time I've had the MyPillow on the show here because we've had boring topics before.
01:07:44.000 That I required my pillow for.
01:07:45.000 That's why I have the pillow.
01:07:46.000 That's the first time I remember you doing it.
01:07:47.000 Yeah, no, this is the first time.
01:07:48.000 This is revisionism.
01:07:49.000 This is revisionism.
01:07:51.000 No, it's literally not.
01:07:52.000 You can go back and look.
01:07:54.000 And I've done this joke before.
01:07:57.000 And no, but you're exactly right that it is something where, look, there's a lot of people who, look, and there's nothing wrong with liking sports.
01:08:05.000 Like, obviously, there's nothing wrong with liking college sports.
01:08:07.000 But at the same time, there is something where it's like, guys, we're losing our country.
01:08:13.000 We are getting to a situation where.
01:08:17.000 We've got communists at the door. 0.96
01:08:18.000 We've got Bolsheviks at the door. 0.88
01:08:20.000 We've got violence increasing all over the country and political violence increasing.
01:08:26.000 And yeah, these people think that this is like a number one issue.
01:08:30.000 Yeah, I actually think that is a big thought crime.
01:08:32.000 And Charlie used to rage against it.
01:08:34.000 We actually had Defund the University Movement.
01:08:37.000 Do you remember?
01:08:38.000 It was Defund You.
01:08:41.000 Wasn't that what we called it?
01:08:45.000 What was it called again?
01:08:46.000 Defund You.
01:08:46.000 I have no idea what you're talking about.
01:08:48.000 We were getting boosters.
01:08:49.000 Oh, that was just Defund the Universities.
01:08:51.000 No, I think the website was like Defund You.
01:08:54.000 And we racked up like $50 million or more in people that said they were going to pool their donor money from the universities.
01:09:02.000 So these are big boosters, big.
01:09:04.000 University donors that were saying we're going to pull our donations from the universities because they've gone woke.
01:09:11.000 But what you're saying is, none of us have ever heard about this because ultimately it's something that rich white boomers don't want to do.
01:09:19.000 They don't want to pull their money because they like the sports teams.
01:09:21.000 They're willing to put up with underwater basket weaving and gender studies because of the football team.
01:09:26.000 Yeah, but no, no, that's not how it works, though.
01:09:28.000 These guys, if a lot of these people who support the university, it's actually a good thing because they're actually putting money into NIL now instead of putting money into like.
01:09:38.000 To name a building after themselves.
01:09:40.000 Okay, so it could be like draining.
01:09:43.000 It was called Divest You that we had.
01:09:44.000 Divest You, that's what it was.
01:09:47.000 And we went to people.
01:09:48.000 We got literally hundreds of millions of dollars removed from public universities.
01:09:53.000 But usually what happens is the university has a nonprofit.
01:09:58.000 They'll go to, again, these exact same football boosters and they'll be like, hey, do you want a name on a building over there?
01:10:06.000 We'll give you free football tickets for the rest of your life if you name.
01:10:11.000 A building that goes through the field.
01:10:12.000 And now they're going into the NIL as opposed to funding school directors?
01:10:16.000 Yeah, instead of funding school directors.
01:10:17.000 Is it money fungible though?
01:10:18.000 If they come out with a problem, they're going to pour that back in.
01:10:20.000 They get a percentage of it, but look, it's less wiggle room.
01:10:23.000 It's like, hey, if we have a quarterback we have to pay $8 million to, $8 million is going to the quarterback.
01:10:29.000 That's crazy.
01:10:30.000 So I mean, so crazy.
01:10:32.000 But that's what I'm saying I would rather burn that money on a college quarterback than give that to the woke left.
01:10:42.000 I just think it's making everything worse.
01:10:44.000 I actually think it's going to make it better.
01:10:46.000 I really do.
01:10:47.000 I'm telling you.
01:10:48.000 I'm telling you.
01:10:48.000 No, no, no.
01:10:50.000 You can't have it both ways because either they cheat and they give all these things under the table and you have these like mob bosses at the universities or it's out in the public and it's way more kosher.
01:11:01.000 Yeah.
01:11:02.000 I mean, these guys were still paying kids in different ways to play on these teams.
01:11:08.000 That's a totally separate conversation.
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01:11:52.000 So call eight three three eight five zero two But going back to our conversation here, guys, I'm telling you right now, and I actually think that Charlie would agree with me.
01:12:18.000 The bigger, no way.
01:12:23.000 Yeah, we had conversations about this before.
01:12:27.000 Really?
01:12:28.000 No, Charlie was the biggest.
01:12:29.000 No, we talked about this.
01:12:30.000 I'm going to pull the tape.
01:12:31.000 Charlie might have briefly won over, and then I would give him a reasoned argument for why you were wrong.
01:12:38.000 You don't have one.
01:12:39.000 You don't have one right now.
01:12:40.000 I have a completely.
01:12:41.000 Okay.
01:12:42.000 Navy and Cortes slash.
01:12:43.000 I have an argument that you cannot respond to.
01:12:46.000 How do you respond to?
01:12:47.000 You cannot respond to this.
01:12:48.000 Time out.
01:12:49.000 Clip 12.
01:12:50.000 Navy.
01:12:53.000 Navy ended the season last year with a win over Cincinnati, 35 13.
01:12:58.000 They were a really good team.
01:13:01.000 They lost two games, and so they didn't make the playoffs.
01:13:03.000 No.
01:13:03.000 You cannot respond to this.
01:13:05.000 Clip 12, start playing it.
01:13:07.000 All right, here we go.
01:13:11.000 56-yarder.
01:13:12.000 It's got, no, does not have the leg.
01:13:15.000 And Chris Davis takes it in the back of the end zone.
01:13:17.000 He'll run it out to the 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, 45, 50, 45.
01:13:22.000 There goes Davis.
01:13:23.000 Oh, my God.
01:13:24.000 Davis is going to run it all the way back.
01:13:27.000 Albert's going to win the football game.
01:13:30.000 Albert's going to win the football game.
01:13:31.000 He ran the missed field goal back.
01:13:34.000 He ran it back 109 yards.
01:13:35.000 They're not going to keep him off the field tonight.
01:13:45.000 You have no answer to that.
01:13:47.000 That would have been an irrelevant game that didn't matter at all.
01:13:50.000 That's not true.
01:13:51.000 No, because basically, Alabama wasn't able to compete for the title as a result of that.
01:13:55.000 Yeah, because that was the last game of the season.
01:13:57.000 And they should be able to be in the college football playoffs, though.
01:14:00.000 No.
01:14:00.000 They should both be in the college football playoffs.
01:14:02.000 That game would have been totally.
01:14:03.000 They wouldn't have even bothered running that play.
01:14:05.000 It just would have been irrelevant.
01:14:06.000 They might have just played it out, whatever.
01:14:08.000 Let's play it safe.
01:14:12.000 You think a rivalry team just gives up in the last minute?
01:14:15.000 Yeah.
01:14:16.000 You're still.
01:14:16.000 No!
01:14:17.000 In the last game of the season?
01:14:18.000 You fundamentally don't understand college football.
01:14:20.000 You think NFL teams don't have rivalries and they just like totally slag in the last week of the season?
01:14:24.000 It doesn't matter.
01:14:25.000 No.
01:14:25.000 College football, they totally would.
01:14:27.000 College football, they would do it more.
01:14:28.000 It would be more tempting to do it.
01:14:30.000 I think the NIL argument to protect the players is actually more relevant to that than if the college football playoff expansion.
01:14:36.000 Well, I'm just saying.
01:14:37.000 I'll tell you, a rivalry would never quit in the last minute.
01:14:39.000 Yeah, they would.
01:14:40.000 100%.
01:14:40.000 This is what they always do.
01:14:41.000 This is what they always do when they're running college football.
01:14:43.000 They'll go, college football is too pure.
01:14:45.000 They'll never taint it.
01:14:46.000 For the sake of money, and then they go and taint it for the sake of money.
01:14:49.000 They get rid of the rivalry games for money.
01:14:51.000 Like AM and Texas don't even play each other anymore.
01:14:55.000 Blake, last year, the only two losses that Navy suffered one was to Notre Dame, and the other was to North Texas.
01:15:01.000 So he was also in the top 25.
01:15:04.000 I'm telling you, it's just I think it's fair to have expanded.
01:15:08.000 They're making college football like professional football.
01:15:10.000 No, they're making the professional football doesn't have 24 teams in a, I mean, I guess on both.
01:15:17.000 So again, what's your argument against just having 64 teams in the college football playoffs?
01:15:21.000 Why don't we just end the season at Halloween and then just start the playoff there with 128 teams?
01:15:25.000 You can't play that many games because of the physicality.
01:15:28.000 Okay, so shorten the season and then we'll just have 128 teams.
01:15:31.000 Fact check.
01:15:31.000 If you're going to win the college football playoff, now you play more games than they do in the NFL, right?
01:15:38.000 You'll have to play 18.
01:15:39.000 If you have a bye in the first round, you'd have to play 17.
01:15:41.000 It's the same as that.
01:15:42.000 So 17 or 18?
01:15:43.000 It's the same. 0.96
01:15:45.000 Which is exactly what it's supposed to be.
01:15:46.000 But the problem is the whole season revolves around the school schedule.
01:15:49.000 So if the playoff, either the season's going to have to start in mid August, a week.
01:15:53.000 Before even schools go back, or it's going to have to go all the way until February.
01:15:58.000 But the problem is, the semesters for school, all these players have to be enrolled in school.
01:16:02.000 The semesters for those schools have already started, and then they can't transfer.
01:16:07.000 So then it screws up the transfer portal even more, which is why the season can't go further.
01:16:11.000 I'm going to tell you right now, nothing, there's no greater feeling.
01:16:16.000 Again, true Americans feel this way.
01:16:18.000 Jack, I'm just going to say this right now, and this is an argument to be made.
01:16:24.000 There's no worse feeling that you experience in American sports than the last week of college football.
01:16:31.000 I'm telling you, it's just, it just, you feel empty afterwards.
01:16:35.000 Well, that's a personal experience for you.
01:16:37.000 No, for every, Charlie would agree too.
01:16:39.000 Like, this is like the worst feeling of sports in the whole year is the week that college football ends. 0.97
01:16:45.000 I'm telling you, that is the true fandom that sucks.
01:16:50.000 Like, no, everybody feels, and this is with professional sports involved too, especially on the football side, there is way more. 0.89
01:16:57.000 Affinity towards your college team than there is to your pro football team.
01:17:02.000 Way more affinity.
01:17:03.000 And not to say that people still don't have fandom, but there's way more affinity.
01:17:08.000 That is the worst week.
01:17:09.000 And so having two more weeks potentially for your team or three more weeks.
01:17:13.000 MKBren28 says, I love how passionate Tyler is about this.
01:17:16.000 Yeah, Tyler's really amped up.
01:17:17.000 He just wants to burn it.
01:17:19.000 Tyler, I might suspect that you're just like a secret operative.
01:17:22.000 You realize that, as we said, college football is this obstacle to us reforming America.
01:17:27.000 So you. 0.96
01:17:28.000 Are in a Straussian way, you're arguing for the destruction of college football while pretending to be a fan.
01:17:37.000 No, I actually hate the NFL so much.
01:17:40.000 It's just because you're a Cardinals fan.
01:17:42.000 That's not true.
01:17:43.000 I would hate the NFL if I was a Cardinals fan. 1.00
01:17:44.000 The NFL is stupid. 1.00
01:17:46.000 They are woke. 1.00
01:17:47.000 They're way more like college football is not woke.
01:17:50.000 Okay.
01:17:50.000 College football is way better than the NFL.
01:17:54.000 The NFL is super woke.
01:17:56.000 And I just think that it's good.
01:17:59.000 It's a healthy balance.
01:18:00.000 And I actually think that it slows down the NFL.
01:18:02.000 The NFL, if you look at how expensive these franchises have become and how much money that they have, the only thing to slow that down is actually the expansion of college football.
01:18:13.000 And I like the NFL to watch it.
01:18:16.000 But I'm not like obsessed with it.
01:18:17.000 And they still have that end racism stuff, don't they? 1.00
01:18:20.000 It's stupid. 1.00
01:18:21.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:18:21.000 Unfortunately, you know, I used to be a big NFL fan, but Philadelphia, we don't have a team anymore. 1.00
01:18:29.000 So now, you know, there's nothing to watch.
01:18:33.000 Yeah.
01:18:33.000 I mean, unless your quarterback is engaging in dogfighting, right?
01:18:38.000 Like, it's not fun to watch.
01:18:39.000 It's a lot of fun.
01:18:40.000 The players are better.
01:18:41.000 Did they move the stadium out of the stadium?
01:18:42.000 Games are more strategic.
01:18:43.000 No, Tyler's right.
01:18:44.000 No, no.
01:18:45.000 I'm referring to the.
01:18:47.000 I'm just referring to the Eagles last week of just absolute abject failure.
01:18:53.000 And then on the back of all that, Jalen Hurts getting a blood clot and being out of the game this Sunday.
01:19:00.000 That news just dropped today.
01:19:02.000 And some people are even saying he might not be able to play anymore at all, depending on where the blood clot is.
01:19:09.000 Because they were playing in London.
01:19:11.000 And so he had had a blood clot before, possibly.
01:19:14.000 And they said he had some leg problems.
01:19:16.000 That's why he wasn't running the ball as much.
01:19:18.000 And, but then they were playing in London and they were saying that possibly the international travel caused the, like, uh, the blood clot to move into a worse spot.
01:19:27.000 So obviously, prayers up for him and as well as the Pope, by the way, with, um, his cancer.
01:19:30.000 Yeah, man.
01:19:31.000 And that was crazy.
01:19:32.000 The Pope getting lung cancer?
01:19:34.000 Jeez.
01:19:34.000 Yeah.
01:19:35.000 And, uh, I mean, they say he's clear now, but, you know, obviously that's not something you don't mess around with.
01:19:40.000 Wow.
01:19:40.000 And, um, and, uh, so yeah, so at this point, it's just like, you know, it's like, does he, does the NFL even have, or does the, um, And the Philly still got knocked out of the first round of the NFL team.
01:19:52.000 It's just like, it's like, whatever, guys.
01:19:54.000 It's like, everyone in my family is like, okay.
01:19:58.000 No, everybody's been busting on me all week about it.
01:20:00.000 And so it's like, yeah, so, you know, maybe, maybe we check out the Pittsburgh team.
01:20:03.000 Like, you know, same state.
01:20:04.000 I don't know.
01:20:05.000 Or you could just be a Packers fan.
01:20:07.000 Like, no, it's great.
01:20:08.000 I mean, Jack, let me ask you this question as a Temple guy.
01:20:13.000 If, yes, sir.
01:20:14.000 If, if, I was also at the Penn State game.
01:20:16.000 By the way, Tyler, I was at the Penn State game with turning point action last weekend.
01:20:20.000 Let's focus on Temple, though.
01:20:23.000 Imagine Temple next year fields a decent team, right?
01:20:28.000 That cracks the top 25 and they make the college football playoff for the first time in a century, right?
01:20:35.000 So, first time ever, literally.
01:20:37.000 Yes.
01:20:38.000 First time that they've ever been competitive in a postseason ever.
01:20:42.000 Okay.
01:20:42.000 And they probably won't be for another 100 years.
01:20:45.000 How crazy would the Temple fandom go over there?
01:20:49.000 Like, every.
01:20:51.000 I mean, you're assuming that the Temple fandom exists?
01:20:54.000 Well, that's what I'm saying.
01:20:56.000 You'd be crawling out of the woodwork to show up.
01:21:00.000 It's Philly.
01:21:01.000 I'm telling you.
01:21:02.000 It's not the SEC.
01:21:03.000 Every white guy in the world.
01:21:04.000 I mean, no, I've gone to temple games.
01:21:06.000 I've gone to temple games, even since I graduated.
01:21:10.000 And, you know, they do play at the Link.
01:21:12.000 So it's the same spot where the Eagles, which is the former NFL team that Philadelphia had, used to play.
01:21:18.000 And, you know, it's good and all.
01:21:22.000 But even then, like, we go to the Cherry and White game, you go to the homecoming game.
01:21:25.000 Like, it's still not, you know, some big, massive fandom like Penn State.
01:21:30.000 All right.
01:21:30.000 That's upset.
01:21:31.000 But that would really hurt.
01:21:32.000 Tyler, we really hit the.
01:21:34.000 Tyler's passions have been.
01:21:36.000 I just think you guys are getting around.
01:21:37.000 I think 2014 is going to be awesome.
01:21:40.000 Now, they could screw up the 2014 how it works.
01:21:43.000 I think it's terrible.
01:21:43.000 I hope they say they're nearing a deal, so there's still time to avert the deal.
01:21:47.000 They're having eight teams.
01:21:48.000 I actually chimed in on social media against this because I'm hoping that I could inspire others to do the same thing.
01:21:54.000 Eight teams will have a bye.
01:21:56.000 It's terrible.
01:21:57.000 And 16 teams will have to compete to make it to round two.
01:22:02.000 Awesome.
01:22:03.000 So, MK Bren, I don't mean to quote you twice here, but this one's for you, Blake.
01:22:07.000 Says, Jack sure knows a lot about this for not being a sports guy, Blake, looking at you.
01:22:12.000 I don't know.
01:22:14.000 Oh, I figured I'd.
01:22:16.000 I'd throw you a bone, Jack, because you've been pouting for this segment.
01:22:19.000 He does like to pout.
01:22:20.000 I think I'm catching up on my sleep.
01:22:22.000 Jack, catch up on mypillow.com promo code POSO.
01:22:25.000 Mike Fidel is at the White House, by the way.
01:22:26.000 I did run into him.
01:22:27.000 Oh, did you really?
01:22:28.000 What was he doing at the White House?
01:22:30.000 He's like, I guess he's still running for governor, right?
01:22:33.000 No, it's over.
01:22:34.000 Oh, he lost the primary.
01:22:35.000 That's right.
01:22:36.000 Jack.
01:22:36.000 No, he's not at the primary, but I did run into him, actually.
01:22:39.000 Jack, tell us you have, we've got to end the show here, but you have Narnia news that you wanted to.
01:22:47.000 You let's let's let's, yeah, the trailer's out.
01:22:51.000 It's horrible, but I don't want to.
01:22:53.000 You know, I want to give it its due.
01:22:55.000 So why don't we wait until producer Russ is back and we can have a really like just a full-on?
01:23:01.000 You know, dissection of the Narnia trailer, where it's it's so bad that they had to get Led Zeppelin in to try to save them.
01:23:10.000 Somehow they conned Led Zeppelin into this, who is is not known for allowing their songs to be used in movie trailers and marketing and things like this, And so, you know, it's just really bad.
01:23:22.000 And we're going to leave it at that for now.
01:23:24.000 Also, there's a lot of news about potential controversy internally at Netflix regarding the cost overruns.
01:23:35.000 Some people are saying that there might be a $300 million budget for the Narnia film, which is just way, way over what anyone would want to pay for a franchise.
01:23:45.000 Do you know they just laid off 1,000 people?
01:23:47.000 Netflix just laid off 1,000 people?
01:23:50.000 Oh, amazing.
01:23:51.000 Amazing.
01:23:52.000 Amazing.
01:23:52.000 Let's get to where's the cheering?
01:23:53.000 Where's the cheering? 0.98
01:23:55.000 We need the cheering.
01:23:56.000 Incredible.
01:23:58.000 Incredible work.
01:23:59.000 Incredible work, ladies and gentlemen, all around.
01:24:01.000 Just great job.
01:24:02.000 Like anytime you could take down any of these enemies of civilization like Netflix, you got to do it.
01:24:09.000 I think that wraps us up for our Thought Crime Thursday this week.
01:24:12.000 Jack, you want to take us home?
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01:25:53.000 You just gave us a quick update when Blake and I were in your office on early returns.
01:25:59.000 I know this isn't really thought-crimey stuff, but for people interested in the midterm stuff, the early returns are not looking bad.
01:26:05.000 Not looking bad.
01:26:07.000 In Arizona, in particular, We're neck and neck.
01:26:11.000 We're like right there as a percentage as 2022.
01:26:15.000 Yeah. 0.76
01:26:15.000 And 2022, remember, was red wave year. 0.76
01:26:17.000 So I know we underperformed in a red wave year, but if we have a similar result to 2022, if we overperform in a blue wave year, it's just as good.
01:26:25.000 So it's honestly how badly 2022 went, overperforming this year will get us pretty darn close to 2022.
01:26:35.000 And so, look, here in Arizona, it's really simple.
01:26:38.000 It's all we have to do is turn out votes.
01:26:40.000 But I reminded, I tweeted this today.
01:26:43.000 The Democrats want to suppress us at 5%.
01:26:46.000 You know what suppression at 5% looks like?
01:26:48.000 Kamala Harris is president.
01:26:49.000 If we would have been suppressed by 5%, just 5%, the likelihood is that Kamala Harris would be your president today and the country would look a whole lot different.
01:26:58.000 5%.
01:26:59.000 So that's five out of 100 people that you talk to.
01:27:03.000 If they don't show up to vote, that is Kamala Harris becomes your president.
01:27:08.000 The Democrats are facing that now with the congressional races, essentially.
01:27:12.000 If we overperform by 5%, Or they can suppress us by 5%.
01:27:16.000 Well, Harry Anton had a video that was going around today where it was like if the polls are off by 3%, Republicans keep everything.
01:27:26.000 Republicans keep the House and the Senate.
01:27:28.000 If their polls are off by 3%, and I'm telling you, I believe we can chase 3% to 5%.
01:27:34.000 You've told me this too.
01:27:35.000 Easily.
01:27:36.000 In Arizona.
01:27:37.000 We've organized in Arizona, Nevada, and New Hampshire enough to chase over 5%.
01:27:42.000 Right now, we're chasing more than 5%.
01:27:44.000 It's great.
01:27:45.000 All right.
01:27:45.000 So one more time on the action item, Tyler, and then we'll sign up.
01:27:48.000 TPAction.com slash app.
01:27:50.000 That's to download the app.
01:27:51.000 You can go to Voters Near Me just to do your own work, your own homework in your own neighborhood.
01:27:56.000 You can also join us here in Arizona, TPAction.com slash 100.
01:28:00.000 Get assigned 100 voters to help us in Arizona or New Hampshire.
01:28:04.000 We'll assign you to Arizona or New Hampshire.
01:28:06.000 You can travel here.
01:28:07.000 We'll actually give you a free hotel room if you want to come here the last week of October, here in the next couple of weeks.
01:28:13.000 We'll send you out.
01:28:14.000 We'll give you 100 names.
01:28:15.000 We'll train you up and send you out.
01:28:17.000 Or you can just work from home, make calls, shoot texts off, things like that.
01:28:21.000 Super easy.
01:28:22.000 The app is super easy to use.
01:28:25.000 Last thing is you can join a Super Chase event.
01:28:28.000 So if you're in a swing state or near a swing state, go to tpaction.comslash Super Chase.
01:28:32.000 These are like Super Saturday style events.
01:28:34.000 You don't have to do anything.
01:28:35.000 You just show up at a park.
01:28:35.000 Just show up and then we'll give you names.
01:28:37.000 We'll give you materials and give you names in the application.
01:28:43.000 It's ideal if you have the app already downloaded.
01:28:45.000 That's why I suggest that.
01:28:46.000 But that's tpaction.comslash 100 to join our Commit 100, tpaction.comslash Super Chase.
01:28:52.000 Or tpaction.com slash the state that's a swing state if you want to join one of those.
01:28:57.000 Yeah, and tpaction.com slash app if you want to just download the app and it's all there as well.
01:29:02.000 And work in your own state.
01:29:03.000 Yep.
01:29:04.000 All right.
01:29:05.000 Jack, take us home.
01:29:07.000 Big, big stuff.
01:29:07.000 All right, folks.
01:29:08.000 The book is on humans' socialist revolution.
01:29:11.000 Make sure you check it out on humansbook.com, special editions and signed editions if you're interested in that as well.
01:29:17.000 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, go out there and admit that. 0.99
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