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00:02:37.000We had Harry Sisson and all these other guys saying, hey, guys, we have a huge bombshell that's coming out tomorrow.
00:02:43.000It's going to implicate a huge U.S. Senate race.
00:02:45.000Nothing is going to be the same afterwards.
00:02:48.000And it turns out a lot, I think the funnest part of this story was group chats like we have going at Thought Crime, speculating about who it could be and who this senator might be.
00:03:02.000So some senators might have caught some strays in our group chat.
00:03:05.000But it turns out it was none other than the late Lindsey Graham.
00:03:10.000And the folks over at the Young Turks came out with a documentary called The Closetocracy.
00:03:17.000Blake, did you watch it and what did you think?
00:04:47.000And in my experience, the only time anybody ever starts a documentary or anything with somebody's passing is if they were doing this before they already passed and then all of a sudden they passed.
00:06:45.000And he's being like, How long has Turning Point USA known about this?
00:06:48.000Dude, if you ever turned into the show, Charlie's always alluding to Lindsey Graham being light in the loafers.
00:06:53.000Like, he's not going to come out and say it because it's kind of rude to just claim this about someone if you don't have hard proof, but it's widely believed.
00:08:09.000Let's turn this around on you, Cenk.1.00
00:08:12.000How long did you guys have these tapes?
00:08:14.000And if you were really worried about foreign coercion or being co opted by some foreign adversary of the United States, then did you alert authorities?
00:08:41.000And by the way, do you think, are you trying to suggest that Darling Graham, his sister, that Lindsay took care of when she was orphaned, when they were orphaned, and that they seemed to love each other through their.
00:08:53.000Are you saying that she set up these encounters, that she set up these trysts?
00:08:58.000So, how long have you been sitting on this?
00:09:00.000And I think that's like a fair question.
00:09:01.000So if you're alluding to the fact that this is a huge bombshell, then I hope you alerted authorities.
00:09:06.000And if you didn't, then you're a fraud.0.99
00:09:43.000This is getting really touchy for Chank because, like, a lot of his male fan base, which isn't a lot, a lot of his male fan base is gay, closeted gay.0.99
00:10:36.000A bunch of people who are self loathing white guys, self loathing, you know, suburbanite males who feel bad for, you know, Palestinians and for the gay community and for the trans community and for, I mean, all these like, the feminists, they're like self avowed feminists, like men who call themselves feminists that watch this junk that these guys put out.0.99
00:11:12.000I like calling him Chunk, even though it's inaccurate.
00:11:13.000By the way, I'm open to us being wrong.
00:11:15.000So if you're in the chat, I want you guys to post in the chat or email us and say, like, you know, I thought Lindsey Graham was straight as an arrow and I was absolutely devastated and shocked by this documentary and I appreciate that they made it.
00:11:29.000If you feel that way, you should send it to us.
00:11:32.000I suppose what's very funny is behind the scenes, I actually have never really interacted with Graham, but I had a friend when I lived in DC who.
00:11:41.000Was with him way back when he was a JAG in, I believe, the Air Force.
00:11:45.000And he always strongly believed that Lindsey Graham was, in fact, straight and just a bachelor.
00:11:52.000He said he actually believed he was, he is understanding he was actually kind of a ladies' man when he was in the Air Force, but then he maybe just got too old.
00:11:59.000He got really past the marrying part of his life and just never settled down.
00:12:30.000He wanted to bomb every foreign nation on planet Earth.
00:12:33.000And so, you know, I supported his primary challengers.
00:12:37.000But that doesn't mean that this attack against Darlene, if you think you're going to swing South Carolina blue, I think it backfires, candidly.
00:12:45.000I think it's just scummy, sort of like dragging her in the mud.
00:12:55.000So the point is, We've been no big allies of the Graham clan, but here's the thing this was just a disgusting display by a candidly disgusting political ideology.
00:13:06.000I mean, but this goes back to a lot of people were like, why did you support, why did you guys support Ralph Norman?
00:13:12.000It's like, dude, Ralph Norman was like, he's more conservative and he's like, he's not, he's straight as an arrow.
00:13:21.000People will be like, why do you support Ralph Norman instead of Lindsey Graham's sister?
00:13:24.000And then in five years, they'll be like, why is everything so messed up with South?
00:14:36.000He, yeah, this whole thing was, he probably was in the club with a lot of these guys, like not the club, but a club with the Democrats in DC who were like, oh, you know, we can work with this.
00:14:54.000Because they, because they, I mean, this is all, he came to prevalence in the midst of, again, remember, even Obama campaigned on traditional marriage.
00:15:06.000Basically, since 2008 to now, which has been 18 years, there has been a cultural revolution in the country with the LGBTQ acceptance thing, right?
00:15:19.000And that's basically the arc of Lindsey Graham in DC.
00:15:25.000So there's a cultural conversation that has to happen at some point where it's like these background things actually do matter and who you elect, how you elect them, because those things aren't just.
00:15:36.000Compromising you with foreign governments and all this conspiracy theory stuff, which I'm sure that some of that's accurate, but it compromises you as a Republican with the Democrats.
00:15:46.000It compromises you as a Republican with lobbyists, you know, those types of things.
00:15:51.000Shocker career politicians are going to do this every time.
00:15:59.000Well, there's nothing wrong with, again, again, there's nothing wrong with Lindsey Graham going to live in his life not as a senator, right?
00:16:06.000Like, go do whatever you want to do as a lobbyist for, you know, for all the major neocon elements.
00:16:15.000You know, serve as a senator, get out, realize that that's not for you, and limit the ability for people to be compromised as a representative.
00:16:24.000Again, this is the problem that I have with the continuation of some of these things is like we don't need more of this in the US Senate, especially on the Republican side.
00:16:31.000Like, we already have an entire Democrat side that's completely compromised.
00:16:36.000I still think it's scummy, and I really, frankly, don't care what a dead man did.0.99
00:16:41.000Obviously, if he was engaging with underage male prostitutes, huge problem, huge problem.0.98
00:17:00.000The Democrats were sitting on this, protecting Lindsey the whole time because they had this thing on him or just even a culturally relevant position.
00:17:29.000Like the only time they attack you is when you're doing things that are, you know, basically saving the country.
00:17:34.000And this is how you know the Democrats were so in love with Lindsey's neocon elements, right?
00:17:40.000Which is like he basically was doing the fulfillment of the exact same thing that Kamala Harris probably would have done, which was go over to Ukraine.
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00:25:31.000He has to adjust his mom's algorithm so that anything that would be too upsetting or inflammatory or damaging to her or a scam gets filtered out as not interested.
00:25:42.000And then he has to like all of the generic stuff.
00:25:45.000So he's liking posts about Dick Van Dyke's birthday, photo albums from family members, maybe cute cat videos.
00:25:54.000It literally says, Uh, Obama fundraising pages, uh, AI generated men speaking directly to the older woman holding this phone because they have so much information on you.
00:26:05.000There's so much stuff, and he discovered it's really appalling.
00:27:26.000AI parent or iPad parents is a fun one.
00:27:30.000I think the craziest part about this is this is just the next evolution.
00:27:35.000Of old people on social media because I've been dealing with this with my parents for years, and it started with just Facebook articles by random people, or, you know, don't believe everything you see on Facebook.
00:27:54.000And now that we're getting into the AI generation of everything, now you're seeing it even explode even more with actual, like, video content outside of even just article content.
00:28:02.000I mean, it's really disturbing because you'll see it's like the incredibly low effort stuff.
00:28:06.000I know people, they'll joke about this, for example.
00:28:09.000It'll be one of those like fake things like this farmer out of farmers market, like grew a pumpkin that's the size of a house, and then hundreds of comments like hearting it and going, Oh my gosh, that's so beautiful!
00:28:20.000or like a dog that saves a baby and it's totally AI generated garbage right now, too.
00:28:26.000Is like TikTok is now doing these AI like animated short series that it's just like it's animals that are talking, it's like Zootopia essentially, but just.
00:28:39.000On your phone, and it's just this AI, the AI slop is just insane.
00:28:44.000And like, I get, I understand why, like, we're seeing a just a boom in older people because a lot of them are in nursing homes too.
00:28:54.000Like, a lot of them just have no nothing to do, like, at all.
00:29:00.000It's going to get so, it's going to genuinely get so bad.0.65
00:29:02.000And this is why I think it's a compelling topic is that, like, scams, for example, have always preyed on old people.
00:29:10.000A lot of us have worried that, like, If you look at political fundraising emails, they are a great way to see where things are headed because they're way less regulated because we can't really restrict political speech as much.
00:29:20.000And so many of them are essentially like they resemble scams.
00:29:44.000It was so hard to just try to figure out what page.
00:29:47.000And it's getting so much more uncorked.
00:29:49.000We're going to just have, I just think we're going to get horror story after horror story of like my parents ended up selling their house after getting tricked by an AI thing.
00:29:59.000In this article, they talk about a guy's like, my dad is addicted to AI slop on YouTube and he has an AI doctor telling him to not take his blood pressure medication.
00:30:11.000Now, here's an interesting this is a line from this article.
00:30:14.000Um, For many iPad parents, though, social media isn't simply a way to pass time.
00:30:18.000It creates a numbing world outside of whatever pain, discomfort, and grief they are faced with in old age.
00:30:26.000The interesting part about that is, I think the reason we are seeing this become so prevalent with older people is because we as a society have become so interested in numbing, so interested in disconnecting.0.63
00:30:42.000And so we want to disconnect, we want an artificial reality.0.96
00:30:47.000To take us away from our current reality, that we're seeing this with older people, and it's just a kind of bellwether of what we in society are already doing in different ways.1.00
00:31:06.000Well, this reminds me of a lot of instances throughout history where a new technology comes onto the scene, and there's just certain species that don't have a natural defense to it.
00:31:17.000Like you think of the dodo birds, right?
00:31:19.000The ships would just come in and they would just.
00:31:22.000Let the sailors kill them, or you know, honestly, this is kind of a morbid example, and I don't mean any disrespect.
00:31:28.000But when these settlers came into North America from Europe and they brought all the disease with them, that you know, it's like there's just no natural defense to these things, so you do have to take care of your seniors.
00:31:39.000I also think this is an indication that you know, I don't really love the idea of my parents getting older and living far away from me, so I can't take care of them.0.70
00:31:50.000But when they're away from you, then their lives tend to be less full.
00:31:55.000And I think that's a, it's kind of a, I don't know, an indictment of modern culture and the way families tend to separate and they don't live in clusters anymore.
00:32:03.000Because if they had stuff to do, if they had grandkids around, they'd spend less time doom scrolling and like looking at AI slop.
00:32:09.000So it's, it's all not good, but they just don't have any natural defenses to it.
00:32:14.000But my, my suggestion to people would be, I, I, I kind of remember this too with Facebook.
00:32:18.000You remember when Facebook was just college kids?
00:33:13.000And it's Yosemite Sam, but as like a working man taking his lunch pail so that he can feed his family of Elmer Fudd, who he impregnated with two baby bugs bunnies.
00:33:40.000And yet, this has actually been happening for ages.
00:33:43.000I think about what's the number of older people you've interacted with who have a news channel on 24 7, all day, just running in the background, whether it's Fox or CNN or MSNBC or MSNBC, or I mean, News Nation, anything.
00:34:04.000Every time I went back to Minnesota, anytime we went to any of the cousins' houses, any of the aunts or uncles, whatever, always, they always had Fox on.
00:34:15.000It's, if you look at it, it was all the.
00:34:17.000I feel like this goes viral pretty often, for example, that a large chunk of alcohol is consumed by a small percentage of the population, and then they drink a lot.
00:34:25.000That 40% of people never drink, another 30% only do it like once every two weeks, but then 10% of the population is just drinking.
00:34:32.000Like fish, and it catches people off guard.
00:34:33.000Have you ever checked the stats on television?0.78
00:34:36.000Like, if you look at how retired people are spending their time, you won't necessarily realize this because when we interact with elderly people, we're going to see the ones who go outside.0.57
00:34:46.000They go to church, they go to events, they help with turning point stuff.0.57
00:34:49.000And so we get this read oh, things are pretty well.0.98
00:34:51.000There are so many elderly people, and this is really sad.
00:34:54.000What they do is they watch the prices right in the morning, and then they, you know, maybe they'll flip over to the news and have that be running all day.
00:35:01.000They'll watch one of those handful network television.
00:36:46.000So, like, if you're going to have kids in your house that are not leaving until they're 45, Are you in that's about the exact same time that your parents need to be taken in?
00:37:16.000My mom had a baby like way late, like 20 when I was 20.
00:37:21.000But regardless, because they have a kid at home.
00:37:25.000They're far less likely to take in one of their parents into their house.
00:37:29.000Because I just know, not to throw my parents under the bus, and I hope they're not listening to this and get offended by it, but I just don't think.
00:37:57.000Like, if you're not starting to have a family until you're 40, you're going to have kids that are the same age as my littlest brother, which means that you're going to want to break after having kids in the house to take in your parents into the house and take care of them because you're going to feel like you just got done.
00:38:13.000So, I think what society used to do is you had kids earlier, they got out earlier, you had years alone in the house, you kind of got bored.
00:38:21.000And then all of a sudden, kids didn't move around as much.
00:38:25.000Well, your kids were near, but my point is that when you.
00:38:29.000Have nothing going on, and you're like kind of bored, and your parents age to the point where it's like we should take them in and take care of them.
00:38:37.000That's not happening as much anymore because I think number one, technology, uh, you know, modern luxury of uh, of communities and elderly communities and things like that.
00:38:48.000But this issue of I think people are just like tired, they're so tired and raising a family that by the time it's to take in a parent, you're like, I can't even imagine doing that, I haven't even had time, yeah.
00:39:22.000Like they're becoming like iPad kids as senior citizens because they're being basically babysat instead of necessarily being like around the family, where, again, in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, for the most part, parents move back in with their kids.
00:39:53.000I just got reminded this part of the article is really jarring.
00:39:58.000And I think one of the aspects of your parents getting older is you sort of reenact how your parents raised you in some ways.
00:40:05.000And honestly, it's a somewhat moving part of caring for aging parents, but it's describing this woman, Sandy, and then her mother in law, Nora, who she's caring for.
00:40:15.000And it says at first she tried to spend hours on her mom's YouTube going like do not recommend and trying to shut down all the slot that her mother in law was going for.
00:40:24.000Eventually, though, they came up with a better idea.0.89
00:40:26.000They signed Nora up for a supervised teenager account on YouTube.
00:40:32.000They got her a child's account on YouTube so that Sandy can oversee it directly.
00:40:52.000But also, even to Tyler's point, I think a lot of this also then goes back to the cost of living, the inflation, all of this, where the barrier of entry into kind of society and being able to do kind of what your parents did when they were younger and starting their families is all higher.
00:41:17.000And so, to your point, By the time you're actually getting connected and you're ready and you're starting to have kids, now we're having kids older.
00:41:27.000And then all of a sudden, now you're having kids in the house later.
00:41:32.000And so then by the time you're around that age that parents would be coming in, you're like, no, I want to be an empty nester.
00:41:39.000I mean, look, the average age probably for people that need to take parents in is probably right around 50, right?
00:41:56.000So, so, I mean, but again, if people are having kids when they're mid 30s, 40, you know, that's, that means that they're in there at the same time.
00:42:14.000But that's like, this is what throws societal norms all out of whack, right?
00:42:17.000Like, if everybody's doing something a different way, which they are now from what they were 50 years ago, 50 years ago, You had all your kids, and basically, you're early to mid 20s for the most part.
00:42:31.000And again, there's some exceptions, but by the time you're 30, you're done having kids.
00:42:36.000And your kids are out by the time you're 50.
00:42:38.000And then you have basically 10 years to hang out, and then your parents move in.
00:42:44.000Now you don't even have kids out of the house by the time you're in your mid 40s, and your parents already need to be taken in.
00:43:43.000But, like, you know, that's contributing to it because it's like, what are you doing with your life?
00:43:49.000You should be actively doing stuff at that age to keep your mind sharp and your body fit and things like that.
00:43:55.000But then, again, it's beyond that because it's like when they're getting kind of old and then they've built and developed those habits, it's going to get worse.
00:44:06.000Especially with like microchipping people.
00:44:09.000Yeah, well, they're going to microchip all these like your link.
00:44:12.000People, I mean, people say a lot like, oh, like boomers are all vulnerable because they just didn't grow up with AI and they're not used to it.
00:44:19.000But I think a lot of this is just straight up cognitive decay.
00:44:23.000And it's not, and maybe a little bit of element of, I think we're very used to the idea that young people can mess up their lives by trying a new thing or getting hooked on it.
00:44:35.000And I think older people like to believe that they're fully autonomous and not as vulnerable to that.
00:44:39.000And what I can say, it's I've seen over and over is it's actually really easy to fall into a bad rut if you're older and it's harder to break out of these.
00:45:01.000And what's really funny in this article, by the way, that a woman who signed her mother in law up for the YouTube thing, it's even describing she did this in secret and then she's sneaking into this account and liking videos and saving them to watch later.
00:45:13.000And then her mom later is finding these and being like, oh, look at this thing that I found.
00:45:17.000It's like it allows her mom to preserve a sense of autonomy, but she must keep it secret.
00:45:21.000Yeah, but they already, you already can influence by sending them stuff every day.
00:45:25.000Like anything you send your parents on YouTube, they'll watch.
00:45:28.000So it's like that you can already do that.
00:45:56.000We're being like a little bit, I think, you know, Blake saying that it's cognitive decline and all this stuff decay, but really it's the same proclivities.0.97
00:46:05.000Old people show the same proclivities that young people do with video games or like doom scrolling or TikToking or social media or screen time.0.93
00:46:13.000The surprise is that you think old people are going to be more virtuous or more self controlled.1.00
00:46:17.000And the truth is, to your point, Blake, their minds are less elastic and there's less to distract them from.1.00
00:46:23.000So if they are retired, then they've got more time at home just to kind of like waste the days away.
00:46:29.000And I think you combine all those factors and it makes complete sense that so many older people would be getting stuck on Facebook with AI slop and just kind of stuck to their iPads.
00:46:39.000The technology is completely accessible, less distractions, less things to do, less things to do in the day, and they're retired.
00:46:47.000But it's the same proclivities everybody has.
00:46:48.000I don't think you could put doom scrolling and video games in the same category, though, because at least with video games, there's been studies that show that.
00:46:56.000It's anything that's an endorphin release.
00:46:59.000No, but it's anything that's an endorphin release.
00:47:01.000The funny thing about video games is that we have doom scrolling ruining video games in the sense that people don't want to work up the mental effort to play games.
00:47:11.000So instead, they watch other people on the internet play games.
00:47:15.000And this is why the personalization of tech in iPads, in how much the phone can do, has been a degradation to society and with video games because video games used to be used.
00:47:29.000It's used for veterans who've lost limbs and are trying to.
00:47:33.000Reprogram like repossess their fingers and everything.
00:47:37.000So, I have a really good point with this, too.
00:47:40.000Is just the same where like basically millennials, because millennials are basically the ones that started the trend of watching other people play video games because they're too lazy to actually play video games.0.71
00:47:49.000Yeah, and they are kind of the cuck generation.
00:47:51.000Most, most, most millennials and me included is like, I actually find video games interesting, but I don't actually have the time or interest.0.87
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00:49:45.000You didn't mean to, but you provided two potential segues to the next topic.
00:49:49.000You talked about football and you talked about old people, how they could make more time in their life.
00:49:55.000You know, a great way to make more time in your life if you are older and married is simply to divorce your spouse because you can always do better.
00:50:04.000You can always do better, right, Blake?
00:50:06.000Yeah, I mean, that's why I put it in the chat.0.97
00:50:08.000If there's one thing women like telling each other, it's terrible advice designed to sabotage other women.1.00
00:50:45.000We can get really, really in our heads about, oh my God, I feel like I'm, maybe I shouldn't leave this marriage because can I even get better?
00:52:00.000And then got rich and famous, and then picked off some, like, you know, some top elite male in her 30s after she whored around because she's rich and she's famous and she can do this.1.00
00:52:11.000So she's giving women all this bad advice, and then she has the gall to sit down across from a lesbian, by the way.1.00
00:52:16.000Sophia Bush is married to a woman to tell women to divorce their men.0.90
00:52:22.000There's it's like you can't make up this situation.
00:53:54.000So allegedly, and again, you got to watch the movie because there's a clip in it that it comes up about him, her husband being a big Charlie Kirk fan.
00:55:24.000Seifert is the right way to pronounce it.
00:55:26.000I Googled it before I brought this up on the show.
00:55:30.000But people mispronounce it all the time.0.99
00:55:32.000But she was so offended, morally offended at Elizabeth Seifert because she wasn't like, or Elizabeth Holmes, because she wasn't feminist enough to stand up for herself against her husband who's out here outside in the real world, you know, doing all these things on her behalf.
00:55:48.000And she was like so vehemently about that.0.83
00:55:52.000And then, like, wouldn't you know it, just a few weeks ago, Amanda Seifried got divorced or broke up with her husband.
00:56:01.000But it was funny because it's always people giving other people commentary, like these feminists giving people commentary about how a relationship should work or that you're being mistreated or you're being whatever.0.95
00:56:17.000And guess what that almost always lands you with?1.00
00:56:22.000The interesting part about what was said here by. Alex Cooper is she, she is acting like, oh, yeah, the grass is always greener somewhere else.
00:56:31.000And when you, and when it's greener, you should go there.
00:56:33.000That's not how life actually ends up usually working.
00:56:36.000How life ends up usually working is you talk yourself out of jobs, you talk yourself out of deals, you talk yourself out of cars when you're on the used car lot, you talk yourself out of relationships.
00:56:48.000And that is actually the most horrifying part about, I think, what her commentary is.
00:56:52.000This is such bad advice because it's not the fact that it's like, oh, well, we can all disagree and about like who you should end up with.
00:57:00.000Your right to go pick and move around and do whatever.
00:57:03.000The reality is, the sadness of life and the beauty of marriage is that when you stick to it, you're happier.
00:57:12.000But on top of that, one, you're sadder than that.
00:57:15.000But even if not, this is something Charlie harped on this so much that you should not be like seeking happiness in life in this facile, fun maximizer way.
00:57:32.000It is a way of committing yourself to something.
00:57:34.000And you get greater things when you can credibly commit yourself.
00:57:38.000And what these demons on Call Her Daddy are trying to do is they are trying to destroy every strong bond between human beings.
00:57:46.000Because when they say you can always do better than your marriage, if you are unhappy, you can always blow it up and do better.
00:57:51.000They are telling you never, they're basically saying never actually get married for real.
00:57:56.000Because if you are not credibly committed to making that thing last for life, you are not married for real.
00:58:03.000There's also a sense of projection, though, too.
00:58:05.000Like, these people are sad and hate their own lives.
00:58:11.000So they're like trying to tell other people not to do what they did when it's really just like, no, you're the one who made the horrible decisions.
00:58:21.000Well, a deeper thing that's going on here that I think is the fascinating discussion is so they're basically saying, yeah, go ahead, blow up your marriage.
00:58:28.000That's going to be like a totally great idea if you do that.
00:58:32.000Another thing went viral on X recently, and it's something that's old.
00:58:35.000But and I've seen it before, but it got a lot of discussion recently.0.52
00:58:39.000Did you know that women who kind of are in some sort of sexual competition with each other, so like women around the same age and they're both unmarried, they will, when they give advice to each other on how long their hair should be, they studied this.
00:58:54.000And when women are in some sort of competitive environment, they recommend cutting each other's hair shorter.0.83
01:00:04.000And her whole thing was like, hey, like, it was literally the whole group was me and then all of these older women just crapping on their husbands.
01:00:13.000And she was like, I don't want to be around that because I actually like my partner.
01:00:18.000Like, I don't want to be around people that are crapping on it.
01:00:21.000Blake is on to something really, really key here.
01:00:24.000So let's look at Sophia Bush's marriage history.
01:00:28.000She married Chad Michael Murray and she was married from 2005 to 2006.
01:01:13.000Sometime in late 2023, she started dating a woman, former professional soccer player, Ashlyn Harris.
01:01:20.000After their respective prior marriages ended, they quietly married in an intimate ceremony in upstate New York in summer 2025.
01:01:29.000So, this is, I think, proof to your point, Blake.
01:01:33.000This woman is failed at marriage twice, and it's that cut your hair short mentality where she wants other women to suffer the same demise as her other two marriages, and she doesn't want to be alone in her own failure because she's actually secretly competitive.
01:01:51.000On some level, with everybody, with all women.
01:02:51.000I think it would behoove everyone to be using that form.
01:02:55.000And I think a lot just don't even have any idea that it exists.
01:02:59.000That's an argument we actually had in the office not that long ago of people arguing over covenant marriage, regular marriage, and then prenups.
01:03:18.000For marriage to work, and this is how we messed it up with easy divorce, it's got to be tying yourself to the mast.
01:03:24.000What makes it compelling, the entire reason it works, the rituals that go into it, is basically all a way of credibly committing your future self to something.
01:03:34.000That if you get everyone together and you get them and there's a giant crowd there and they all witness you promising you will be true to this person, that you will feel shame and humiliation and ostracism.
01:03:45.000And ruin if you then try to blow this up later.
01:03:49.000That is what all of those rituals are meant to do.
01:03:51.000And that is what we need our law to do as well to say that if you make this promise to someone and then blow it up, you are a bad person and society is going to view you as a disgrace.
01:04:01.000And that is why we need to tie men and women together or tie women to chairs, which is the other topic that Angela wanted to talk about that was marriage related.
01:04:20.000Women and men should reject this terrible slop.0.99
01:04:24.000I think it's demonic straight from the pit of hell.
01:04:26.000If you find yourself in this, you know, you're frustrated in marriage, seek help, talk to a pastor, read your Bible, pray, ask God to save your marriage.0.84
01:04:34.000Do not bail because some podcaster and some lesbian from Hollywood tells you that you can get better.
01:04:39.000First of all, I just want to make that expressly clear.0.97
01:04:42.000However, it seems like at the beginning of this clip, she is saying she's talking specifically to older women that maybe stay in a marriage because they're old and they feel like, you know, My value on the open market is down.
01:06:35.000I mean, I'll just tell you, just from my own experience, and this is not scientific by any means, but I feel like I've seen like an equal number of abusive wives to men, men to women, out of just my friends and close relationships and things like that that I've seen.
01:07:06.000Yeah, I mean, easy divorce makes abuse easier.
01:07:08.000I guess easy divorce empowers the person who is more willing to blow up a marriage.0.52
01:07:12.000So that's my point was that I think that because of the circumstances, I think you actually have seen a dramatic increase in female abuse within relationships.
01:07:24.000I think the more that people, again, feel that the societal norms you have to stay in a relationship, I think that lends to men being more abusive in all the ways.0.85
01:07:34.000And I think in a society where Marriage is just flimsy, it actually lends for women to have the upper hand in a relationship.
01:07:45.000And again, I think we're all getting really upset about this clip.0.98
01:07:50.000I think we're all getting really upset about this clip because we're assuming the guy is doing his level best and he's trying, and this woman is just like buying all the feminist garbage that you would see on Call Her Daddy.0.95
01:08:01.000And the woman just like gets, you know, fed up with him, bails on him.0.90
01:08:04.000I think that's the thing we have in our head.
01:08:12.000I think if your spouse just has a drinking problem and the effect is it's just making them a loser, not that they're hitting you every single night.0.99
01:08:24.000But if your spouse is just struggling with an addiction where it is hurting them, I think you have an obligation to try your damnedest to make that relationship work.
01:08:32.000And that is part of what in sickness and in health means in marriage, is actually like serious problems in your relationship.
01:08:55.000If you check surveys, marriages are significantly less happy than they used to be.
01:09:01.000People rated their marriages as happier and better when it was really hard to get out of them.
01:09:06.000And I think a lot of that is because it gave you security.
01:09:09.000Right now, if you're in a marriage that's slightly rocky, everyone gets miserable because you're thinking, is my spouse going to blow this all up, blow up my life, take my kids away, take half my money away, make me move?
01:10:02.000Those things need to be first, the first things you go for if you're having a rocky marriage.
01:10:07.000But what about the fact that maybe you're getting the wrong causation, Blake?
01:10:11.000Maybe it's not that marriages aren't less happy statistically because there's less sort of binding two people together and divorce is easier.
01:10:19.000What if women are just less happy in general?1.00
01:10:22.000Maybe it's because they all go to work instead of doing.0.98
01:10:26.000I don't think that's often assumed.1.00
01:10:28.000Women, I mean, women, the truth is, women have like always worked.1.00
01:10:30.000It was like a kind of temporary thing where it was like a super middle class thing to have women at home.1.00
01:10:36.000Like in the past, women had to work on farms.1.00
01:10:39.000Do you think women on farms didn't flip and work?1.00
01:10:49.000I think it is marriage more than working that we have made the norms around marriage so much less healthy and less conducive to human flourishing.
01:10:59.000And a big driver of that is that they are easy to blow up.1.00
01:11:01.000And the funny thing is, it's women who blow them up.1.00
01:11:03.000Like, 65, 70% of the time, they're the ones who push the button to blow it up.1.00
01:11:08.000And yet, I think it's murdering their happiness a lot more than it's hurting male happiness.
01:11:11.000Also, I think there's also something to be said that people are looking for perfection far more in today's society.
01:11:18.000They're not, it's no longer, hey, I want to find someone that has.
01:11:37.000Now that I'm married to this person, if all of a sudden my idea of perfection changes and now you're not the perfect person, hey, I'm out.
01:11:47.000I'm going to pack my bags and I'm going to go find the next perfect.
01:11:50.000And shout out MK Brand, who said he argues women aren't happy because they're on social media too much and they are comparing themselves to things.
01:11:57.000Everybody is unhappy because they're not.
01:12:00.000Sophia Bush and Alex, that's 100% what they're doing.
01:12:03.000They're like, if you feel unhappy because you see on social media a created version of life that you think.
01:12:25.000You see people faking a really happy marriage almost equally to the amount of people you see blowing up their marriage and bragging about it.
01:12:33.000But my fear is that the divide is wide, right?
01:12:37.000Where it's like a lot of faking that you're happy in your marriage because of social media.
01:12:43.000Which also contributes to worse relationships, probably.
01:12:46.000And a lot of people, like, again, just like celebrating divorce and celebrating breakups.
01:12:53.000And whereas it should be somewhere in the middle, which is, you know, talk less about fake less about your relationship and be more real and be more private and all those things.
01:13:04.000And at the same time, you know, you should work at it a lot harder and not be patted on the back for wanting to disrupt your entire life, your kids' lives, your.
01:13:14.000Family's lives, everyone else, your school, everything.
01:13:17.000Paraphrasing Charlie, but read your Bible and do the work.
01:13:21.000It's just, I mean, I'll tell you, it's just every marriage is hard.
01:13:32.000It takes, you know, all the Beatitudes that are talked about, where it's like you have to actually try and commit yourself in a Christ like way with any relationship that you have.
01:13:43.000Marriage is obviously the, the, The tip of the spear, the top, the peak.
01:13:50.000So it's like you got to try the hardest, be the most forgiving, the most kind, the brokenhearted.
01:13:56.000And it's just people, I think today are, again, least likely to exhibit those Christ like attributes.
01:14:05.000And they're less likely to be forgiving and they're more likely to dig themselves into a hole and to run from their problems and do those things.
01:14:12.000And again, the problem with social media is that it leans into all those things.
01:22:07.000Okay, first of all, first of all, after that trailer, I'm pretty sure like 30% of the population is going to think The Chronicles of Narnia, The Stairway to Heaven, is an entry in the series.
01:22:19.000Because that basically starred the freaking Led Zeppelin song more than it starred anything from C.S. Lewis.
01:23:01.000I mean, they're literally just being propped up by Led Zeppelin.
01:23:04.000And for folks who don't realize, Led Zeppelin is famously very, very reluctant to have their songs featured in anything.
01:23:12.000And so, this is like a huge, you know, it's the first time anyone's heard Fairway to Heaven, which is like their greatest and most popular song, et cetera, et cetera.
01:23:20.000And the fact that they needed that as a massive crutch to come out for their three, again, $300 million movie just shows you that, number one, they are in trouble.
01:23:34.000And number two, there's also a lot of industry reports.
01:23:37.000And Russ, I'm sure you've seen a bunch of this that a lot, there's a huge amount of turmoil both internally.
01:23:44.000And externally about the movie, more so than I think we didn't even know about until, you know, after the trailer came out, because it's just so weird.
01:23:54.000Like, even on its face, and you notice, I'll also mention that there is no indication of Meryl Streep.
01:24:12.000Well, so playing devil's advocate here.
01:24:16.000Uh, this is a this is the first uh trailer.
01:24:21.000This is a teaser trailer, so them not having uh Meryl Streep's voice makes sense, and especially I don't think you're gonna hear a lot of Meryl Streep in this movie to begin with, anyways, because Aslan isn't really a huge like obviously, he's a huge character in this book, but he's also not at the same time because he is creating Narnia.
01:24:50.000It's just, if anybody has seen Thor Love and Thunder, this is what it gives.
01:25:55.000No, but you know what Russ, no, Andrew, wait, wait, Russ, Russ.
01:25:59.000What he's saying is what Andrew, what Russ is saying is that in the book, Aslan follows the steps of Genesis in the creation of Narnia in almost the exact same way.
01:26:10.000Obviously, there's differences, there's talking animals, et cetera, but it's very deliberately following the steps of Genesis.
01:26:18.000It's not this like all at once, there's a ledge, and it's like a Led Zeppelin song, rock opera kind of thing.
01:27:26.000Yeah, and in fact, Russ, that there was even the family had actually problems with the Walden series because they said there was too much action in it.
01:27:38.000And they said having too much action in the Walden series was too much of a departure from the books.
01:27:43.000And what's really going on is that so C.S. Lewis didn't have any natural children of himself, he had stepchildren.
01:27:50.000And the one stepson was very, very involved, closely guarded the Narnia brand, the Narnia IP, his entire life.
01:28:01.000And unfortunately, he has now, he's not really, really getting on in years.
01:28:06.000And there's some questions that he may actually have.
01:28:13.000And there are some real questions as to who, you know, who it was that was driving that train to get him to sign over to Netflix.
01:28:23.000And obviously, Netflix is not, they haven't disclosed how much they purchased the rights for, but obviously it was a considerable sum since they've held onto it for so many years.
01:28:33.000And no, of course, there's no question.
01:28:35.000And so when you have a franchise like that, which ostensibly, right, if, if, Online streaming and Netflix was what it should be, then certainly Narnia would lend itself to a great streaming show.
01:28:49.000In fact, I would love to see Narnia as maybe like a series of seasons.
01:29:13.000Puddle Glum is like Puddle Glum is not even so.
01:29:15.000Puddle Glum is supposed to be this, um, he's called a marsh wiggle, and marsh wiggles are a you know, it's like a fantasy species, um, that lives in the reedy marshes outside of Narnia to the north as their way up in the silver chair.
01:29:30.000And uh, famously, they didn't even bother trying to make him a fantasy character, really.
01:29:35.000It's just kind of they got like a weird looking guy and they said, There, there he is.
01:29:40.000I want, I just had this idea that I must voice or I will forget to do it in the future.
01:29:45.000So, it's very controversial that they took the original set in Edwardian England or whatever, and now they're moving it to the 1950s and making it rock opera.
01:30:03.000But what I think would be funny if you made a modern based Narnia, so the original Narnia, Wally and Witch in the Wardrobe, of course, take place during World War II and they leave the city because the Germans are bombing it and so they are evacuating children.
01:30:15.000What if we got a based version of Narnia that takes place today and the Pevensies have had to be evacuated from London because London is completely overrun with foreign invaders who are anti Christian and anti British civilization?
01:30:28.000So their parents ship them to a country house in the countryside.0.85
01:31:04.000She gives, um, you know, no, yeah, and it's like, dude, no, oh, yeah, yeah, he's Gregory, yeah, he's a professor, Uncle Andrew, yeah, before he ever stepped onto a debate stage or behind a microphone.0.95
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01:33:04.000One of the interesting parts about all of this, too, is that this week we actually got a trailer for Rings of Power Season 3, which we're seeing a parallel in this.
01:33:17.000Lord of the Rings selling off the rights to a company that has no idea how to actually make a good film or good adaptation.
01:33:27.000And then you have Netflix doing the same thing.
01:33:29.000And it's just sad to see that these, especially since Tolkien and C.S. Lewis were friends, and you're seeing the younger generations of these households not caring enough to hold on or to give over the rights to people who actually like.
01:33:50.000The Lord of the Rings music is reminding us that we've never gotten Tyler to weigh in on whether the Disney Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe adaptation was gay.1.00
01:35:19.000I didn't see the trans colors, it just no, what I'm like, yeah, like ashes, as you said, but it's like, yeah, what I'm saying is, speaking creation into being, no, no, right, right.1.00
01:35:30.000So, what I'm saying is, my argument is that they have tried, they they saw all this coming.0.99
01:35:36.000And here's the other part of it because we haven't talked about this as much yet.
01:36:25.000So they're trying because they heard Thought Crime and they saw Pozo was out there and they knew Russ was coming and they said, all right, guys, we got to tone this down.
01:36:34.000And I think that that's part of the reason that you're seeing all of the turmoil now.
01:36:40.000Where, like, multiple executives have been let go from Netflix in the wake of this once it was once it emerged how much money they spent on this thing, and they're going, Why did you let Greta Gerwig make all these changes to something?
01:36:55.000We just wanted, you know, a regular Narnia adaptation.
01:36:58.000And by the way, has said things like she doesn't believe Jesus is the savior, like, yeah, that's probably not what you want from a franchise that everyone knows.
01:37:31.000I like the style, the acting that I'm seeing from this, but I have a feeling you're probably going to end up being proven right because there's just too much smoke not to be a little bit of fire here.
01:39:30.000Chose this version of the wardrobe to be the starting point of this universe that is super colorful, super like this whole movie is going to be insane, like color wise and everything.
01:39:44.000But like the wardrobe just looks like really boring.
01:39:48.000And I maybe that's when they enter into that in between world.
01:39:51.000You know, the in between world with all the pools.
01:39:55.000Yeah, the in between world with all the pools.
01:40:01.000I always sort of like struggled to imagine what that would look like when I was reading it, right?
01:40:05.000So they put the ring on their finger and they go to this in between world with all the pools and they try and remember which pool to jump in to get back and forth to that world.
01:40:15.000And I've never been able, like, the description that C.S. Lewis gives is kind of vague.
01:40:19.000And I guess your brain can kind of like take it and paint it in whatever way you want.
01:40:23.000But the image that I saw here, I was like, that's actually a really cool, you know, imagining of what that world would be.
01:41:15.000He's not, you know, like some mega person or anything.
01:41:18.000And he said that initial cuts of the film were actually poorly received internally.
01:41:24.000And Netflix called early cuts of the movie awful and a genuine problem and said that they actually ordered heavy editing and scheduled reshoots.
01:41:36.000Which obviously is never anything you want to hear on a production that's already got a price tag like this.
01:41:42.000So that may have been something that inflated the price tag even beyond what it already was.
01:41:51.000It says the trailer's dislikes have climbed to 65,000, even as Netflix touts 481 million views.
01:41:58.000Netflix has also fired Dan Lin, the film chief, who clashed with Gerwig over Narnia, with a Paramount source calling the movie mega woke slop insanity and development at the streamer Frozen.
01:42:12.000So, a day after the first Narnia the Magician's Nephew trailer racked up thousands of dislikes and Marvel jokes, a new report says things are just as rough behind the scenes at Netflix.
01:42:24.000So, if people inside Netflix and Paramount source, I guess, so Paramount maybe, I don't know, calling it mega woke slop insanity, that's not a good sign, man.
01:44:14.000Well, so apparently Greta Gerwig has gotten outside editing help and they've started reshoots in August when reports said Netflix executives, not Gerwig, called for more filming after watching an unfinished two hour cut.
01:44:30.000So yeah, it does seem like all hell's breaking loose.
01:44:32.000And again, if you have Hollywood insiders calling it woke.
01:45:10.000People like you that have been so loud and vociferous about this being a woke film or whatever actually get these executives to change course, reshoots, refilms, maybe they re voice it.
01:45:23.000I don't think they would do that to Meryl Streep, but what if they actually end up succeeding in re editing this thing and it becomes good?
01:45:31.000I mean, that would be a good outcome for you, right?
01:45:35.000It would be good, but I need a re voice.
01:47:09.000I'm just saying, it would have been like connective tissue for the fan base.
01:47:14.000I mean, also, Leonisa's voice is such a good representation of Aslan.
01:47:21.000Like, I remember the first time I watched the movies, and then I went back and read the books.
01:47:25.000And, like, you can't hear anything but Liam Neeson's voice when you're rereading the books.
01:47:33.000So, yeah, I mean, if this becomes like a film that's trying to lecture us about current events or something like that, I'm going to be really pissed off.
01:48:49.000Right now, the trailer, so they're saying, this is from Barstool.
01:48:53.000It says, it can't have helped, and they're talking about.
01:48:56.000Lynn getting ousted at Netflix, while not quite getting the ratio that some of the recent Disney properties like the Snow White remake have gotten, it isn't being well received at all.
01:49:05.000Right now, it's got 102,000 likes to about 65,000 dislikes, with 70,000 comments almost unanimous in pointing out that Gerwig took Lewis's naturalistic fantasy realm of forests, mountains, and fields, rivers, and turned it into just more AI slop like the worst of Marvel.
01:49:26.000And one thing that I would point out as well is that.
01:49:29.000You know, you take something like Snow White, you know, Snow White's been a story that's been around for 200 years, and it's obviously an archetypical story as well in Western civilization.
01:49:38.000Narnia, as much as I love Narnia and as much as I can tell we all love Narnia, it has never been on the same scale of a franchise as like Lord of the Rings or Star Wars or anything like that.
01:49:50.000And so you really need to kind of stick to basics in order to have a movie that I think the general audience is going to want.
01:49:58.000And ultimately, I think they run the risk of just kind of falling into that same category of, oh, just another CGI slot movie if you don't hold true.
01:50:09.000To those same values that made Narnia such a timeless piece to begin with.