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00:01:26.000He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:01:33.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:02:50.000It's also the president listening and internalizing from his base, the proud, patriotic Americans that go to these Trump rallies that feel like they are losing their country.
00:03:00.000In fact, that's one of the things the president said tonight.
00:03:02.000He said, we got to take our country back from the elites.
00:03:08.000And one of the big things is he put forth a separate and distinct and different worldview, so categorically different than that of Joe Biden and the radical Democrats of Elon Omar, Alexandria Casio-Cortez, and the arsonists in the streets that are burning down America.
00:03:25.000President Trump was unafraid to say, in God we trust.
00:03:27.000One of my favorite lines of the entire speech was near the end when he said, we stand on the shoulders of heroes.
00:03:37.000The same heroes that the left are going after in the streets of Seattle and Portland and Boston and Philadelphia.
00:04:01.000Do you want to bow before the left-wing mob or do you want to stand up tall and proud as Americans?
00:04:10.000That's President Trump at his best, framing the issue of whether it's going to be you capitulating to this new religion of group humiliation or standing strong and standing proud to be an American.
00:04:23.000Now, President Trump said one thing that I don't know if I agree with this in a policy sense.
00:04:26.000I'm a freedom of speech guy, but metaphorically, I completely agree with what President Trump was saying here.
00:04:31.000President Trump said that there should be a one-year minimum for anyone that burned the American flag.
00:04:37.000Two days ago, leftist radicals in Portland, Oregon ripped down a statue of George Washington and wrapped it in an American flag and set the American flag on fire.
00:05:16.000Now, again, I think that people should be able to speak freely, even if it is symbology of our country, even if it might be totally gross and disgusting and unspeakable.
00:05:25.000However, what President Trump is really saying is it's time we fight back.
00:05:29.000There is a price to the rioting, to the arson, and to the destruction of America, that it will not go unchallenged.
00:05:36.000That the bitter resentment towards America that is now metastasized and materialized into physical destruction of our monuments, no more of that.
00:05:47.000That's what President Trump was focusing on.
00:05:49.000And I could tell you right now, there's a crisis happening in the Biden for America campaign or the Joe Biden for President campaign.
00:05:56.000Joe Biden realizes that he has to start campaigning now.
00:05:59.000He's trying to use the media to create cover fire for him, shut down the rallies, fear monger around the spread of the virus.
00:07:32.000Since 2003, he has delivered fawning eulogies to the funeral and at those funerals of three leading supporters of segregation, including a former member of the KKK.
00:07:48.000And yet Biden is now smearing as racists tens of millions of people like yourselves, decent, hardworking Americans who he's never met and he frankly probably doesn't want to meet.
00:08:01.000America should not take lectures on racial justice from Joe Biden, Sleepy Joe.
00:08:11.000A man who praised and partnered with segregationists, shipped millions of black American jobs overseas and everyone else's jobs too, by the way.
00:08:22.000If I didn't come along, we're building auto plants, we're building everything, and there's never been a comeback like we're making right now.
00:08:32.000President Trump is already framing this election as, do you want to restore and rebuild America or do you want to have the 40-year failure of former Vice President Biden that was pro-segregation, authored the Clinton crime bill, said that you cannot walk into a 7-Eleven got a slight Indian accent, who's been a bitter racist his entire political career.
00:09:34.000In major city public schools run by Democrats, over two-thirds of students are falling behind in reading and math.
00:09:43.000And I think the numbers are worse than that.
00:09:45.000But Democrats would rather deny these children the future they deserve than allow them to attend the charter, public, private, religious, or independent schools of their choice.
00:10:09.000It's very popular, but some people, it's like a disaster because what it does to certain unions that have a lot of power over the Democrats, even though they know it's wrong, Republicans believe access to education is a civil right.
00:10:25.000And one of my favorite lines in the entire speech is when President Trump said, we stand on the shoulders of heroes.
00:10:32.000We have a history we need to be proud of.
00:10:34.000We have a heritage that we should teach our children about.
00:10:38.000That the American history is one of the hero's journey, not one that the left inaccurately depicts that we should just tear it down from within.
00:11:18.000We stand on the shoulders of American heroes who crossed the oceans, blazed the trail, settled the continent, tamed the wilderness, dug out the Panama Canal,
00:11:33.000laid down the railroads, revolutionized industries, won two world wars, defeated fascism and communism, and made America the single greatest nation in the history of the world.
00:11:50.000And we are making it greater and greater every single day.
00:11:55.000And now I want to play the last two minutes of the speech because President Trump, I think, hit his stride.
00:12:02.000President Trump, throughout the speech, was like, wow, I'm back at a rally.
00:12:08.000And, you know, President Trump got better and better, and more energy was coming out of him, and more energy was building in the room as he went on.
00:12:15.000And you could see that President Trump, at the very end of the speech, almost didn't want it to end.
00:12:20.000He was like, I wish I had written down more notes.
00:12:22.000And President Trump at the end framed why America's the greatest country in the history of the world.
00:14:07.000And now, if you remember back in January or December, President Trump used to ask his followers, should we do Make America Great Again or Keep America Great?
00:14:16.000Well, now it's back to Make America Great Again because of the virus, because of the lockdowns, because of the riots and the arson.
00:14:22.000President Trump is now afforded the opportunity to run as an outsider, as an insider.
00:14:27.000This is where President Trump is at his best.
00:14:29.000He is not at his best defending the status quo and talking about ventilators.
00:14:33.000I'm glad that he's able to talk about ventilators.
00:14:36.000I think that he's done a great job with ventilators.
00:14:50.000We elected him to drain the swamp, to disrupt the status quo, to challenge the kingdom of D.C., to go after the corrupt ruling class and the political elite that have done so much damage to our country.
00:15:00.000And you could hear that in the last two minutes.
00:15:01.000President Trump was like, we're back, baby.
00:15:04.000You are not going to stop this campaign or this movement.
00:15:07.000And we are hosting him this Tuesday in Phoenix, Arizona.
00:15:11.000And we're just going to continue the momentum.
00:15:12.000We are going to continue the momentum of him laying out a vision of positivity, of optimism, of renewal, of restoring America.
00:15:20.000And again, the Biden campaign knows that they can be in hiding and in the candidate protection program, which is a deviation of the witness protection program, for maybe another week, maybe another two weeks.
00:15:30.000But the more that President Trump gets in front of tens of thousands of people and thousands and thousands of activists, it's going to be harder and harder for Joe Biden to continue to have a socially distanced press conference with six people that show up.
00:15:53.000But the more he pushes through, the more that he stays focused on truth and on defining the election, I'm telling you right now, he will be rewarded because of that.
00:16:02.000They are doing this because they want President Trump to stay quarantined.
00:16:05.000They want President Trump to stay stationary.
00:16:08.000They want President Trump to stay sedentary.
00:16:11.000We have to understand the American story is one of pride, strength, and triumph, not fear, shame, or apologizing that Joe Biden's trying to articulate.
00:16:21.000Do you think Joe Biden could have a rally that's even one-tenth the size of what President Trump had tonight?
00:16:25.000When Joe Biden does a live stream, he can't even get 1,000 people on it.
00:16:29.000Now, look, the Democrats are going to try to cheat their way to victory, but President Trump getting back in front of people.
00:16:36.000Because as I've said in previous podcasts, it's hard fighting this culture war alone when the president is not really dictating the terms of engagement.
00:16:44.000When the activist media is the one that's dictating what's happening, the corporations are the one that are funding Black Lives Matter time and time again.
00:16:51.000It's hard to continue to fight when you're not getting the backup that you think you have, when you're not getting the backup that, quite honestly, you need.
00:17:00.000And by the way, some people are going to say, well, it was smaller than would have been expected.
00:17:15.000The Biden campaign will refuse to engage.
00:17:18.000No Trump event to date has been attacked as much as this event.
00:17:21.000And yet President Trump fought through it, and he will be richly rewarded politically because of that.
00:17:28.000We actually caught up with Congressman Jim Jordan, who is live at the Tulsa rally, to tell us what he was feeling on the ground, his thoughts on the direction of the conservative movement, the great Congressman Jim Jordan, who fights every single day for our country, for freedom, for liberty against the D.C. ruling elite.
00:17:43.000He's one of the few guys in Congress that actually gets it and has actually exposed the fraud of the American left.
00:17:50.000We caught up with him by phone right before the president took the stage.
00:18:21.000Joe Biden catering to the canceled culture of the radical left who wanted to defund the police versus the president doing what he said and having a huge rally here in Tulsa.
00:19:33.000But now the last several weeks, we've seen all kinds of protests in the street, protests that weren't necessarily focused on some of the same things that conservatives were, and protests that unfortunately turned violent and rioting in some of those.
00:19:46.000But somehow that was no problem with the coronavirus.
00:19:49.000So this double standard is just ridiculous.
00:20:01.000Yeah, and we do it responsibly, and we have people that are at-risk shelter in place, and we make responsible choices of who we see when we see them.
00:20:08.000However, you know, we're hosting a student event, Congressman.
00:20:12.000And it's the least at-risk demographic by far when it comes to the virus.
00:20:17.000And, you know, the young people have really everyone has had their life change, but young people in particular, I think, have had a disproportionate impact.
00:20:24.000You have their spring sports, their prom, their commencement, their jobs, their internships, you name it.
00:20:29.000So, Congressman, I'm hearing from a lot of people, and you're an exception to this criticism.
00:20:34.000People are really kind of looking for Republicans to fight right now.
00:20:37.000It seems like we're just kind of letting the left dictate the terms of engagement, and we're playing defense.
00:20:43.000I think where you are right now in Tulsa, Oklahoma, is the moment where we go back on offense.
00:20:53.000And take just the radical positions the Democrats have adopted this Congress.
00:20:58.000They started this Congress off by saying they wanted to abolish ICE, and then they moved to, no, no, no, we want to abolish the Department of Homeland Security.
00:21:05.000And now they're talking about defunding and abolishing police departments.
00:21:09.000When you have the left and the Democrat Party embracing the left and these radical positions, we have to push back, Charlie.
00:21:16.000We have to stand up for our fundamental liberties.
00:21:18.000Bill Barr said during the coronavirus two months ago, he put out a memo and he said, the Constitution is not suspended during a crisis.
00:21:28.000This great country, the greatest nation ever, built on those fundamental liberties and freedoms outlined in the Constitution, the Bill of Rights.
00:21:34.000And when we see what's happening right now in the country, tearing down George Washington statue in Portland, Oregon, doing the crazy things we see on the left, of course we have to push back.
00:23:07.000This impacts young Americans probably more than anyone you think long term.
00:23:11.000They're tired of these big companies, big tech companies, censoring conservatives.
00:23:15.000Two years ago, four of us got shadow banned by Twitter.
00:23:18.000Gates, Meadows, Nunez, Jordan, four conservatives.
00:23:21.000The president gets censored by Twitter.
00:23:24.000Two days ago, the federalist gets demonetized by Google.
00:23:27.000And it's all conservatives they come after.
00:23:29.000So we've got to push back on that as well, because if they get control of all that and they can censor conservatives, where do young people go?
00:23:38.000You've all grown up with these social media platforms.
00:23:41.000So this is scary stuff and why this president is so darn important, so important that he win, and so important that we support him and push back on what the left is doing.
00:23:49.000Yeah, thank you for mentioning that, Congressman.
00:23:51.000And so is there anything specifically that you think we can do legislatively?
00:23:54.000I mean, I have called for inquiries and all this, and I want to thank you for mentioning it because so many members of Congress are afraid to take on these tech giants and these tech titans.
00:24:02.000And I mean, you're right there in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
00:24:04.000They're trying to prevent the president who's about to speak there from tweeting out videos that are non-controversial.
00:24:33.000So I'm not sure exactly what the remedy is.
00:24:36.000We can look at the Section 230 issue and others, but you have to be held responsible.
00:24:40.000There has to be implications, ramifications, and consequences if you're doing what we know they are now doing, and it looks like they're doing it in a systematic way.
00:24:48.000And it's only one direction towards conservatives.
00:24:56.000I don't believe the polls, but the polls that are coming out have us down a little bit.
00:24:59.000And honestly, I think a shot in the arm wouldn't be the worst thing for us because, you know, I think complacency is the gateway to defeat and let the left think that they're up and we're going to organize and work like never before.
00:25:10.000But what do you think the big messages are that we have to capitalize on?
00:25:12.000A lot of our listeners are the frontline activists.
00:25:15.000We have hundreds of thousands of people that listen to this program that are young patriots that want to help and want to get involved.
00:25:34.000You got Joe Biden in his basement catering to the cancel culture left, the same radical left who wants to defund the police, same radical left who wants to raise your taxes, take away your health care, cut our military.
00:25:46.000That's Joe Biden versus President Trump, who has taken on the swamp.
00:25:50.000And in spite of a relentless pushback from the swamp, cut taxes, reduced regulations, before the coronavirus had the best economy we've ever seen, lowest unemployment in 50 years, put Gorsuch and Capitol on the court out of the Iran deal, embassy in Jerusalem, hostages home for North Korea, and new trade deal.
00:26:52.000We will steer you in the right direction.
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00:28:55.000But Donald Trump knows, and the rest of us know, we will not be silenced because we're standing up for the values that have made our nation great.
00:29:04.000And if we let these people get their way, our country is going to be ruined.
00:29:08.000So I'm glad that we're having the rally here in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and that we're having a rally in Arizona.
00:29:16.000The president's campaign has handed out masks to everyone and hand sanitizers.
00:29:24.000And so people are excited, trying to stay safe.
00:29:28.000But, you know, listen, there's marches going on all over the nation, protests going on, and the left-wing media doesn't complain about them, but they complain about people getting together because it's Donald Trump, because they don't like Donald Trump and they want to regain power, and they will do anything to stop President Trump.
00:29:51.000So generally, it seems that the media is so determined to destroy the president.
00:29:57.000I mean, they were silent on a lot of these protests, despite them not being socially distanced and highly critical now of these Trump gatherings.
00:30:05.000So it seems like a lot of the conservative movement and Republican movement needs to kind of reorganize at this point.
00:30:13.000And having the president back out in front of the people and rallying is critical.
00:30:18.000What is your thoughts on how things are trending?
00:30:22.000It is where we have our organizational headquarters for our educational arm, Turning Point USA, and also our C4, Turning Point Action and Students for Trump.
00:30:37.000Tell us your thoughts on how things are going.
00:30:39.000Oh, I believe that Arizona is going to vote for President Trump and re-elect President Trump.
00:30:44.000You know, you know, Joe Biden, I still can't believe that the Democrat voters picked him because he is so low energy and really it's kind of sad because he has a hard time, you know, putting two sentences together sometimes and answering questions.
00:31:02.000And so I really was shocked that they picked him because he's had 40 years of a record and he hasn't done much.
00:31:10.000And you have President Trump who's been in there doing what he said he's going to do.
00:31:14.000I mean, we had a booning economy before the coronavirus hit.
00:31:20.000And President Trump is the only candidate that can get us back to where we were.
00:32:05.000So there's a lot of growing unease in our country about the lack of law and order.
00:32:10.000I mean, in Scottsdale, for example, it seems like the rioters went to Scottsdale Fashion Square, and many of them were not even held accountable for what they did.
00:32:18.000And that's not in the fabric of Arizona.
00:32:20.000I know there were plenty of arrests, but there were also a lot of people that got away with what they stole and what they did and what they destroyed.
00:32:27.000And I was stunned being in Arizona, seeing that happen and just knowing people's businesses that were ransacked and destroyed.
00:32:33.000A lot of people feel like the Republican Party is not fighting for them.
00:32:36.000They feel like the president is, but it just seems like that there's just a lack of intensity right now.
00:32:43.000And I know you're one of the few people that are fighting for what is good and for what is true in Washington, D.C. What are your thoughts on the growing lawlessness in America and the culture war that is raging right now in our country?
00:32:57.000Well, this is an excellent example between what Democrats believe in and what Republicans believe in.
00:33:03.000I am a member of the House Judiciary Committee, and last week we sat through a hearing about the Democrats bill.
00:33:11.000They didn't reach out to Republicans at all.
00:33:14.000There's some features of the bill on policing reform that Republicans could support, but they inserted a whole bunch of liberal stuff that law enforcement has said would take away their ability to do their job.
00:33:28.000And, you know, and so I introduced an amendment that basically said, okay, cities that allow this lawlessness in autonomous zones that are cop-free zones are not going to get federal grants for law enforcement.
00:34:13.000And Joe Biden is right there with them.
00:34:17.000I mean, if we allow them to control the U.S. House of Representatives as they do now when they're passing these crazy liberal bills.
00:34:28.000And then if the Senate turns Democrat and if Biden gets in, can you imagine all these radical bills that give free things to illegal immigrants, that open the border, that basically regulate everything about our lives, increase taxes, all that is going to become law and all the things that President Trump has done are going to be erased.
00:34:56.000We cannot let this happen to our country.
00:34:59.000That's why this election is so important.
00:35:02.000And that's why I am so happy that you're involved and students for Trump is involved.
00:35:08.000And yes, I plan on being on that rally and I'm super excited about it.
00:35:14.000And it just seems as if the anarchists and the Democrats, they are working in one.
00:35:19.000It's interesting what you just mentioned.
00:35:20.000I want to make sure I heard it correctly, that you were trying to make sure that if these zones declare themselves autonomous, that they wouldn't get federal grants for law enforcement.
00:35:36.000Another amendment that I introduced was if a city votes to defund, dismantle, or disband the police department, they shouldn't get federal guns grants for law enforcement.
00:36:06.000Can I just tell you, I work there, and just like President Trump says, I didn't know it was so bad in Washington, D.C. Many of these Democrats, they have no common sense.
00:36:20.000They say they're so radical, so out of touch with where most Americans are.
00:36:26.000And the reason that most of America doesn't realize that Republicans are fighting for them like me and others is because the media won't cover it.
00:36:45.000Thank God they're not taking down President Trump's Twitter account, which there are some Democrats in Homeland Security Committee, of which I'm a member.
00:36:56.000They have said to Twitter, we want you to take down President Trump's Twitter account because we believe he's a terrorist.
00:37:16.000So for the young students listening to this, they're up against opposition.
00:37:21.000We have tens of thousands of high school kids that listen to this program very intently, and they're called names just like you are, and they are criticized.
00:37:29.000What's your practical advice to them of how to stand up against the mob, stand up against the condemnation that comes for being a conservative and being a Trump supporter?
00:37:37.000Hang in there because the more they complain, the more the left and the Democrats bully you, the more you know that you're striking a nerve and that you're winning.
00:37:48.000And, you know, this has taken me years to get used to people calling me all kinds of names, wishing I was dead, those type of things.
00:38:17.000And that's why I tell the silent majority, I tell adults this as well.
00:38:23.000We can no longer be silent because if we continue to be silent and let these radicals and liberals bully us and censor us, our country's future is going down the tubes.
00:38:39.000So how do we practically turn these polls around?
00:38:42.000I know that I don't believe all these polls, but some of them, even some of the internals that have been made public, aren't exactly going in the right direction.
00:38:49.000What practically do you think we need to do to kind of give a little shot in the arm, a stimulus, if you will, to be able to get the president numbers up and also, you know, hopefully retire Nancy Pelosi, which would be nice.
00:39:00.000And I know you have to deal with that whole pack of apparatches every single day.
00:39:04.000So in order to, you know, turn that around, what do you think we have to do practically so that we can reclaim the House?
00:39:10.000I think we need to do just what you are doing, and that's getting our word out and other conservative groups and other conservative media sources getting the word out because the other media, the liberal media, is not going to do it for us.
00:39:24.000They are in the pocket of the Democrat Party and are doing everything that they can to take back power.
00:39:35.000They want power to implement all these radical ideas.
00:39:39.000And so we just need to talk to people.
00:39:41.000Most people do not realize the radical bills that the U.S. House of Representatives is passing because there's more Democrats than Republicans in the U.S. House of Representatives.
00:39:54.000And so they have the Speaker of the House.
00:39:57.000They have all the chairmen of the committee.
00:40:03.000And the Senate stops them because they're Republican.
00:40:06.000Most people do not understand the basics of how it works.
00:40:10.000And it's really, quite frankly, about math.
00:40:13.000You need more Republicans in the House.
00:40:15.000You need more Republicans in the Senate to have a majority to make sure that our country stays on track.
00:40:22.000Because if we lose that and they get the power, they're going to implement all these radical ideas.
00:40:29.000And so I think it's education, quite frankly.
00:40:32.000It's education, doing what Trump is doing now, which is starting the rallies back up.
00:40:38.000I think I still have faith in the American people that what they see out there, this lawlessness, and the liberals supporting this chaotic things.
00:40:52.000I had Jamie Raskin, who's a congressman, a Democrat congressman, saying in Judiciary Committee, he's perfectly fine with the lawlessness in Seattle.
00:41:04.000I mean, seriously, most people do not realize how radical Democrats have become.
00:41:12.000Well, in closing, tell us your experiences with President Trump, your favorite story with President Trump.
00:41:17.000It's something that I try to do on this show is tell real stories that humanize the president because I've had a great opportunity to get to know him.
00:41:24.000Tell us what your interactions with him have been, how they're different than how the media portrays it, and maybe your favorite Donald Trump story.
00:41:32.000Well, what's interesting is I never thought that I would be in Congress to begin with.
00:41:40.000And so I remember that the first dinner I went to after I was sworn into Congress, President Trump was introducing the Congress members that were there, and he didn't really know me.
00:41:52.000And so he introduced my husband as the Congressman.
00:41:56.000He said, Congressman Joe Lesko and Debbie.
00:43:08.000And if anyone wants to join, go to trumpstudents.org.
00:43:10.000We are hosting the president in Phoenix, Arizona.
00:43:13.0003,600 students will be in the room, and we can't wait to see you, Congresswoman.
00:43:18.000So thank you so much, and keep up the fight.
00:43:22.000And as you can hear, the recurring theme is that Trump is back on offense.
00:43:26.000If you're listening to this and you've been a little bit, I don't know, cynical, negative, pessimistic, now's the time for us to get back on offense.
00:43:35.000The president is on the attack, metaphorically, of course.
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