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00:01:38.000The state of play and how we plan to get through it.
00:01:40.000Yes, the big breaking news this morning is that the Kirk family has filed a notice of claim.
00:01:46.000That's not a lawsuit, but it's a notice of intent to file one, and it sort of extends the statute of limitations.
00:01:53.000We're going to get into all of that at about the halfway mark of this hour.
00:01:57.000Okay, so we're obviously, I've been dealing with it all morning.
00:02:01.000I've been doing interviews, and we will explain everything that is in that document, everything that is laid out there, some of the security failures.
00:02:11.000That happened at UVU and why that is moving forward.
00:02:15.000But we're going to get to it at the 1230 mark, East Coast.
00:02:20.000We've got a great expert that's going to be coming on who understands crowd control, that understands security at large events.
00:02:26.000So we're going to get there in just a minute, in a couple minutes.
00:02:30.000But first, we're going to get to, and I think this is really important because the news broke while we were on the air yesterday, and that is that Thomas Massey has filed articles of impeachment.
00:02:42.000Against Secretary of War Pete Hegseth.
00:02:45.000Now, this caught all of us off guard yesterday.
00:02:48.000We didn't really know what to make of it, but we now know more.
00:03:49.000I was skeptical of that because I just felt, even if you think it's great to blow up drug smugglers, it felt like the situation where it was a matter of time till we'd inevitably blow up the wrong boat.
00:03:59.000And I just feel like we've never actually had that case where it just turned out, oh, this was obviously just a fishing boat and was destroyed.
00:04:22.000He's accusing Hegset of suppressing free speech by investigating Democrats like Mark Kelly, who I believe were trying to foment insurrection.
00:04:31.000In the armed forces, telling them to disobey unlawful orders.
00:06:09.000To the best of our ability, exactly what we believe Charlie would do, which was hey, warn against invading foreign lands and foreign interventions, but also have the back of the president when he makes a tough decision.
00:07:24.000Pete Hegseth has honorably served his country.
00:07:27.000And Pete Hegseth right now is victim to a media smear job to try to destroy his character and try to remove him from the nomination for Secretary of Defense.
00:07:38.000Now, some people say, but Charlie, he doesn't have the experience running a big organization.
00:08:44.000These Republican senators need to stand up and be counted.
00:08:50.000And if you are going to oppose Pete Hegseth, then we want to know your names and your states because we'll be visiting a neighborhood near you.
00:08:59.000If you're from Arkansas, if you're from Kansas, if you're from South Dakota, if you're from Idaho, and you're against Pete Hegseth, you're going to have to defend that to your voters.
00:09:09.000You see, the American people did not vote for old bull Senate Republicans to get in the way of President Trump's mandate.
00:10:41.000You guys, oh, we got a mountain of them.
00:10:42.000We got, I can't even read all of them.
00:10:44.000People sent in so many, but let's get a few.
00:10:46.000Uh, Santa says, Massey is a little 12 year old scorned girl, and he doesn't deserve enough and he doesn't get enough credit for that aspect.
00:10:54.000Please, for the love of America, be the first to give him that credit.
00:13:42.000These lunatic losers need to be removed immediately from office.
00:13:46.000I've been looking to see if we got anyone pushing the line because it'd be fine if someone disagreed, but it does seem pretty uniform within our emails.
00:14:06.000And listen, I have a lot of compassion for people that are anti war, anti interventionists, and they're trying to get their message across.
00:14:18.000Blake and I both sympathize with that.
00:14:19.000We are very anti foreign interventionists, especially in the Middle East.
00:14:23.000But, you know, we feel duty bound to continue Charlie's rhythm on this, right?
00:14:29.000Because Charlie would quietly work behind the scenes to advance what he believed was right.
00:14:34.000And in the case of Iran, he did not want to see us go into Iran.
00:14:37.000But when President Trump made the decision at Midnight Hammer, Charlie said, I trust that the person that we worked our tails off to get elected is going to make the tough decisions and he's going to do it.
00:14:49.000We got to trust him and have his back.
00:14:50.000And especially, he wouldn't crash out and demand the entire administration be eliminated so that we can have some far left Democrat reopen the border, bring back DEI, undo the huge amount of progress that we've made in so many different domains of America and that we're continuing to do.
00:15:07.000We set another record for ice arrests in August.
00:15:55.000But that doesn't mean, to Blake's point, that you turn into a horseshoe person and you go find common cause with the pro abortionists that want to abort your child up to the point of birth.
00:16:06.000Even after birth, some of these states, you know, they've eliminated prosecuting moms if their child dies within the first year in some of these places.
00:16:19.000I'm not going to go find common cause with the open borders lobby that wants to throw open the borders and replace the body politic in this country to get a compliant, dependent underclass that will vote for them.
00:16:46.000So, the horseshoe people like to say, well, it doesn't matter if we vote left or right, Republican or Democrat, because we still get foreign wars.
00:16:55.000I don't agree with that at all, but let's just concede the point for one second.
00:16:59.000Okay, so if you get foreign wars, then you're making my point that it's still better to vote for the Republican because you get different domestic policies.
00:17:29.000You're not going to be happy with everything, but hopefully, cooler heads will prevail and we will say this is obviously the better route for the country.
00:17:40.000If you're looking at your investment portfolio and feeling pretty smart right now, remember a bull market can make anyone look like a genius.
00:17:47.000If you've had a good run, the question is whether you keep it.
00:17:50.000The people who act early do it from a position of strength.
00:18:47.000I'm grateful to have you, and thanks for making some time for us today.
00:18:51.000I'm going to play this clip just to start us off because it kind of sets the table.
00:18:55.000And this was from some of what you did with News Nation here, SOP 4.
00:19:00.000Charlie Kirk's family says Utah Valley University, campus police, and others did not properly address security concerns leading up to his assassination, despite multiple warnings.
00:19:11.000One Turning Point USA member even raised concerns about the roof where Kirk's alleged assassin shot him from.
00:19:17.000Notice of claim sent to the university from Erica's lawyers with a shocking accusation that before the event, a member of Turning Point USA texted the police chief.
00:20:29.000Now, listen, different police departments differ in terms of their protocol, but at a very minimum, everyone is meeting together to discuss the risk.
00:20:38.000And had they met together to discuss the risk, part of me wonders if they would have moved this to a different venue so that it wasn't that, I guess, fishbowl situation, which was outlined in the documents that I've.
00:20:49.000That said on News Nation before that this was a very dangerous situation, in my opinion.
00:20:54.000I also think, too, this sheds a lot of light on the fact that there's been a lot of discussion that, you know, Charlie's security details should have done more.
00:21:02.000They were doing more, they were asking the right questions.
00:21:06.000They were saying that they had heard that there were vulnerabilities on that rooftop.
00:21:11.000They even offered, per that text message, to put one of their own team members there.
00:21:16.000But they were basically told, we've got this covered.
00:21:19.000So, I don't think they felt that there was a need to, and then they could shift their focus to that close-in security that they were providing.
00:21:27.000So, to that point, so I think this is what a lot of people are keying in on the most.
00:21:30.000So, TPOSA official, the security texted, Hello, Chief Long.
00:21:35.000We received this message today from the student group.
00:21:38.000He said, There is student roof access pretty close to where Charlie will be set up at Utah Valley, and said, It would be nice to either have it controlled access or allow one of my guys to be up there as well, if possible.
00:22:11.000And then we're just kind of hearing about it now.
00:22:14.000And what it does is it sort of extends the statute of limitations and sort of prepares the parties involved that, hey, there is a claim being put together here.
00:22:24.000And So they've been notified, the university's been notified.
00:22:41.000I mean, because I think there's tension here, right?
00:22:44.000There is the fact that we want to keep having events at college campuses, we want to be able to do this, and I believe that those can be done safely.
00:22:51.000I don't think that anybody's expecting universities to do extraordinary measures.
00:22:55.000We're basically saying the basic blocking and tackling.
00:22:59.000Of making sure rooftops are covered, monitoring CCTV, making sure access control at certain points is accounted for.
00:23:08.000Do you think that reading this document, the assessment is correct that this was preventable?
00:23:14.000Yes, I do believe in reading this document that it was preventable because, as I said before, and as you mentioned to me, things at the very basic level, and these are things that don't necessarily incur a cost, if that makes any sense.
00:23:31.000Would incur a cost that is usually offset by the group that's there.
00:23:35.000But these are things just securing scenes, putting officers there, monitoring that CCTV, all of that is within the purview of that police department.
00:23:44.000And I think, had they had that initial meeting, whether it was just days or weeks beforehand, I do think, in my opinion, that really this death could have been preventable.
00:23:55.000Because essentially, if you have a situation where you had Charlie surrounded by all of these tall buildings, it really, if you don't secure them, that was probably the number one thing that needed to be secured.
00:25:43.000Technically, they're not even lawfully available or able to stop somebody.
00:25:48.000In that situation, if somebody's going up, now they might choose to do it.
00:25:51.000That's why I think they were offering to put bodies up there.
00:25:53.000Nevertheless, that is the purview of the university.
00:25:57.000Another thing that was interesting is there was no drones, and we find out that they don't have a drone program at the campus PD, but nearby Orem did.
00:26:07.000And I've been told that they were expecting a phone call that never happened.
00:26:10.000So that's extraordinarily infuriating as well.
00:26:13.000So just point after point after point where you're going, it just feels like basic stuff, especially within a year.
00:26:21.000Just barely over a year after what we saw at Butler, Pennsylvania.
00:27:07.000And that's why I'm even more concerned and surprised by the fact that they wouldn't have reached out to local law enforcement.
00:27:15.000Again, I understand that there's a cost associated with that, but most departments who bring these groups onto campus know that there's a cost associated with that and prepare for it.
00:27:25.000We've dealt with that many, many times at Turning Point.
00:27:32.000I didn't, you know, I wasn't like involved in the weeds.
00:27:36.000I'm learning some of this stuff after the fact.
00:27:38.000For example, one of the things I'm learning is that that rooftop was well known to local officials to be a place where students hung out and did people watching.
00:27:46.000They would find beer bottles and other types of garbage up there.
00:27:49.000They knew that that was a point of vulnerability.
00:27:52.000So if you know that that's a point of vulnerability, that people can access that rooftop so easily, why was it left unguarded?
00:27:59.000When you said you had the rooftops, Handle.
00:28:02.000And it occurs to me, as we learned during the hearing, that it looks like Tyler Robinson was on that roof for a few minutes getting ready there.
00:28:10.000It wasn't a quick bolt up, do it, and get out.
00:28:13.000That if you'd had someone even making arounds, they might have spotted him.
00:29:16.000Let's do a glass half full operation here in our minds.
00:29:22.000What would you like to see come out of this?
00:29:24.000Because my hope is that universities will take this and approach security, especially for conservative events, candidly, because I think there's more threats facing conservatives these days, but for everybody.
00:29:56.000I think one of the things that I hope comes out of this, but I know some people don't like that, is uniform security standards at a bare minimum, almost a checklist that universities need, whether they're public or private, that are agreed upon.
00:30:09.000There are groups that do get together and discuss these things.
00:30:12.000But if they could all get on the same page in terms of what is the most basic things that are required to keep an individual or individuals who are on that campus safe, reasonably safe, I think would be a great thing to come out of this.
00:30:27.000I also think another thing, and this is something that I actually brought up in Butler when that happened with President Trump, is the idea of better intelligence sharing.
00:30:37.000Because what you had mentioned before about, you know, turning point, having that information about the roof being vulnerable.
00:30:44.000Who knows how that was ultimately shared and who that was shared with?
00:30:48.000And that's obviously a very critical piece of intelligence.
00:30:52.000And sometimes, as someone who's been on the intelligence side and the law enforcement side, that can get sort of mixed up and isn't shared properly.
00:31:01.000And so I think streamlining that and having those basic standards across the board would be very beneficial.
00:31:09.000You got me thinking about something that I haven't thought for a while, but I remember in the immediate aftermath, I thought to myself, why do we even have Campus PD?
00:31:15.000Why is it not a Better funded local PD that just has a group that works the campus, right?
00:31:24.000Is there a benefit to having campus PD, be it its own sort of PD, as opposed to, in this case, ORAM?
00:31:32.000ORAM could have just had a campus division, right?
00:31:34.000Maybe they would have had more resources, would have had the drones.
00:31:37.000I think the answer to that, sorry to be kind of vague, is it depends.
00:31:40.000So I think some schools, some schools, yes, they do actually use their local PD and don't have a campus PD.
00:31:48.000But let's use my alma mater, right, as an example of that.
00:31:51.000So I went to USC, University of Southern California.
00:31:54.000It would have been a massive strain on LAPD, particularly in that area.
00:31:58.000To also be providing the security at the school, which is why USC does have its very own and very capable police force.
00:32:05.000So, in some situations, it actually is beneficial, particularly in large urban areas, to have that school PD.
00:32:13.000It's actually a good thing and it's beneficial.
00:32:16.000But that's not obviously always the case.
00:32:51.000The other question, though, is you talk about information sharing.
00:32:55.000You know, we have made a lot about this show that there.
00:32:59.000Did seem to be at least threats made on social media.
00:33:03.000There seemed to be some sort of prior knowledge, or at least, you know, who knows, but people seem to indicate that, and maybe that was just people saying stuff on social media, right?
00:33:13.000People say all kinds of crazy stuff, but that's been something that's bothered me a lot, you know, in the months since this happened.
00:33:21.000Is that kind of what you're talking about with information and intelligence sharing?
00:33:24.000That kind of stuff could be streamlined with a campus PD?
00:33:34.000Like to the school, areas that are vulnerable, students that are a problem.
00:33:38.000So that information needs to be shared as well as those outer threats that you mentioned, like threats on Discord, threats on social media.
00:33:47.000And sometimes to your point about having that local PD as well as school PD, the two of them don't necessarily talk because they really have different interests, right?
00:33:57.000And different things that they're protecting.
00:33:59.000And so that information, in my opinion, needs to be streamlined because this doesn't exist in a bubble.
00:34:05.000You have to, these individuals who are coming to these universities wishing to do harm are going through many different jurisdictions to be able to do that.
00:34:13.000And so if they're not talking to each other, you have a blind spot.
00:34:16.000Well, that does kind of remind me of Butler, where it was like different groups were on different communication platforms or whatever.
00:34:23.000They weren't talking, which is just wild when it comes to the president of the United States, let alone a campus event like this.
00:34:34.000I feel like the multiple attempts against President Trump.
00:34:37.000That have come shockingly close to being successful remind us that sadly, the best defense we've always had against assassinations has just been that for most people, the vast majority of people, it's not even thinkable that they would ever do that.
00:34:50.000We thankfully don't have many people who want to do a borderline, you know, a suicidal thing of trying to take somebody out.
00:34:57.000And if that's breaking down, if more people are into that, our system is unfortunately pretty vulnerable.
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00:39:00.000And I know it comes from Erica and the family, but I have been asking since Charlie got shot, what was the deal with not surveilling the roofs?
00:39:09.000And you guys are supplying answers and you're saying that this is the real story.
00:39:13.000And I wanted these answers a year ago, and they're hard to get, and no one knew exactly what to make of what.
00:39:20.000But you guys are, I think, starting to put the puzzle together where you're answering how could this have happened?
00:39:27.000And those of us who love Charlie and work with Charlie and even watch Charlie from afar, they all want this answer too.
00:39:34.000So I feel like, as simple as it is, just this is a big step forward in trying to resolve one of the questions, which is why wasn't the roof surveilled?
00:39:43.000And you guys are starting to supply the answers.
00:39:45.000Andrew did a nice job laying out on Fox.
00:40:05.000And so, you know, I'm glad that they did it.
00:40:09.000My whole perspective on it is like good on them.
00:40:11.000If I can be an asset and support from a messaging standpoint and lay out some of the more egregious failures, you know, listen, I. My heart is actually with everybody involved on some level, right?
00:40:24.000Because I do think it was, we said this in the last hour, it was probably a case where, you know, they just didn't expect something like this to happen in that part of the world, right?
00:40:33.000I mean, this is a sleepy little part of the greater Salt Lake area.
00:40:36.000You're not here, but from someone who just said, yeah, I'm from Southwest Montana, similar area.
00:40:41.000And he just says, it doesn't enter our head that something like that could happen there.
00:40:45.000And I do think that was, but still, the basics were not covered.
00:40:50.000This is not, we're not talking about you got to be, you know, extraordinary Secret Service level, whatever.
00:40:55.000No, just man the roofs, make sure the rooftop access points are blocked off or manned, monitor the CCTV footage, and work with local police departments that have drones.
00:42:25.000You need to have basic operating protocol when it's not just Charlie's life that was on the line and obviously lost tragically.
00:42:32.000Imagine that shooter sprayed bullets into the crowd.
00:42:35.000How many lives could have been lost because of an oversight like that?
00:42:39.000And even beyond the lives, which of course, that's a fantastic point, but even beyond the lives, it's free speech itself we're talking about.
00:42:44.000It's talking about that there are a lot of worthy voices that students should hear from that have a lot to say and a lot of knowledge and who are not physically brave and may have young families and don't really feel like, well, there's a good chance I could get shot today.
00:43:00.000Because the university doesn't give a crap about security, then I'm not going to show up.
00:43:06.000It's a the terrorist win once we allow for that.
00:43:08.000So, anything that's a step in the right direction that we protect free speech at all costs in this country, if we're moving in that direction, we're moving in a good day.
00:45:09.000Everything about that and the lines in it is amazing.
00:45:12.000I'm not a fly fisherman, but a lot of people were making fun of their casting technique, and they appear to be wearing Brooks Brothers pants in that.
00:45:20.000Pond or stream or whatever they're in.
00:45:43.000And I just want, I put this out on the Everything app, but I will Venmo $50 to anyone who could get me a picture of the camera crew.
00:45:52.000Who Jake Tapper trotted out to film that?
00:45:54.000I want to see the camera crew watching this farce.
00:45:57.000I got a lot of commentary on what was said, but I think the most important thing to say is I can't believe CNN put cameras on these guys and took this remotely seriously.
00:46:06.000I just, I want to know how it happened.
00:46:07.000Was like, you know, was Tapper like, I really want this interview?
00:46:11.000And Gavin was like, Well, I've got this fishing trip.
00:46:14.000I'm heading from the French Laundry over to Montana.
00:46:16.000Every candidate should be in increasingly implausible situations, like an interview while they're on a climbing wall or in a batting cage.
00:46:45.000If you throw up 161, this is the top of Breitbart right now.
00:46:50.000And this, of course, comes from this like terrible exchange where James Talrico is asked who his favorite drag queen is, which is a weird question.
00:47:00.000But the weirder part was that at the tip of his tongue, he had an answer.
00:47:15.000And I mean, this is a guy who's running for the Senate in Texas, and he's running on this platform like he's a super nice guy, but he is super tuned in to all of the male to female drag queens who specifically target children.
00:47:33.000And remember, Talarico is always thinking about the trans children from that other quote.
00:47:39.000I mean, this is, I think someone told me that like Robert Patty O'Rourke Beto, you know, the fake Latinks, who's actually an Irishman, he's like Charlton Heston compared to Tallarico.
00:47:52.000And they're selling this guy in Texas.
00:47:56.000I was thinking about this in the context of the midterm guys about how it's a, with everything that's going on, is that Republicans would get completely crushed if they're running against no one.
00:48:04.000But they are running against the Democrats.
00:48:07.000And these are the guys they keep putting out there, guys who make excuses for 9 11.
00:48:11.000Guys who make excuses for October the 7th, guys who eat barbecue with a napkin wrapped around the meat, but they were also a vegan at some point and won a vegan campaign.
00:48:21.000And then Newsom's not on the ballot, but he kind of is.
00:48:23.000And he's there and he is saying he's going to see DeKamala Harris, who is just now a wine mom and is just getting in the Sauvignon Bee really early in the day all the time and sounds completely incoherent whenever she talks.
00:48:37.000And Cal Rico is so keyed into the drag queen network.
00:48:59.000So in real life, Alyssa Edwards, Talrico's favorite drag queen, is a 46 year old dude named Justin Duane Lee Johnson, who identifies as a woman.
00:49:09.000Born in Texas, won the title for Miss Gay America in 2010, and now operates the Beyond Belief Dance Company, marketed.
00:49:55.000Like every AI is jealous of how quickly he can.
00:49:59.000Like he didn't even pause to think, is this a question I should answer?
00:50:02.000No, what he did is it looked like he paused because he didn't want to offend the other drag queens that were also at the tip of his tongue.
00:51:24.000Well, I just think that his crash out is really unbelievable.
00:51:27.000And people who actually watch his Twitch right now, that he's calling now America the worst.
00:51:32.000POS country in the world, and he's just tripling down on that.
00:51:36.000He hates this country as people start getting the word out that he really is almost funny to watch.
00:51:41.000Like, he's really mostly a stand up comedian in a lot of ways.
00:51:44.000And when you start appraising him through that lens, and that the Democrats let him be the face of the party, and that the Hakeem Jeffrieses of the world didn't have any power to stop him becoming the face of the party, a guy who's mostly a jokester who Charlie humiliated on numerous occasions.
00:52:00.000And I think you start understanding that, oh, yeah, he puts a clown nose on a lot so he can get Twitch attention.
00:52:05.000He was never meant to be the guy who was in charge of the party.
00:52:08.000And now that he is, he's having this huge crash out where he's coming, he's going further, further to the left.
00:52:14.000And he does not like that he's getting spurned.
00:52:16.000But just I'm calling out all the guys, the Pod Save America podcast bros who make so much money podcasting.
00:52:21.000They have no power, they have no effect on that party.
00:52:24.000That party has been completely overtaken by the freaks who are residing online.
00:55:22.000Who do you think gets in trouble for that?
00:55:24.000It happens to be the, not the chick that was celebrating Charlie's assassination.
00:55:30.000It was the girl and the guy, college Republicans, that took the photo and posted it online.
00:55:35.000They didn't use her name, they didn't put her name out there.
00:55:38.000She was identified by somebody else through the picture.
00:55:42.000So this girl never had any sort of pushback on her from the university.
00:55:49.000She came out and apparently lobbed a fake apology.
00:55:53.000To the college Republicans, and then went straight to school administrators and tried to get the two of them expelled.
00:56:01.000And I saw a post from Riley and Riley, it's a girl and a guy, saying that they were going to have a hearing, an expulsion hearing the next morning.
00:56:11.000And this was pretty late last night when I saw it.
00:56:26.000Uh, and I was like, that's when I reached out to you after that, being like, okay, well, do you know anybody out there that I can retain to try to not let them get steamrolled by woke university administrators?
00:56:39.000And you guys stepped in over there, and I don't know how much she wants to say, but I'm gonna go ahead and say it.
00:56:47.000Erica would not let me pay for it, she went ahead and pulled it out of her own pocket.
00:56:51.000Attorneys were working through the night, and now we have an update.
00:56:56.000Uh, they got an email from the administrators this morning saying.
00:56:58.000Due to unforeseen circumstances, we're going to have to reschedule our expulsion hearing.
00:57:05.000So, you know, I can't appreciate you guys enough stepping in and getting this done.
00:57:11.000I can't appreciate you enough, Nick, for flagging this for us last night.
00:57:15.000I mean, as you know, we've got a lot of news breaking today, and it was a busy evening and morning and all that kind of stuff.
00:57:20.000But when I heard about this, I was absolutely floored.
00:57:24.000I think, you know, I saw like Brandon Herrera was in the comments, Palmer Lucky was in the comments.
00:57:29.000I mean, this has gotten national news.
00:58:09.000They turn around and they say, Oh, you're having a hearing about this ASAP.
00:58:13.000This is what we need to move heaven and earth.
00:58:15.000And I almost wonder if someone in that university maybe saw an opportunity, thought we can do this really fast before they have a time to react.
00:58:50.000And so, like, I can pull up the original email here that says, as ironic as this is, the standard of behavior violation in question includes threatening or endangering behavior.
00:59:11.000Against the two college Republicans, there allegedly involves you attempting to dox another University of Utah student over a political issue.
00:59:32.000Despite the death threats that we have received from students at the University of Utah, we are out here getting students more involved and registered to vote.
00:59:38.000We will not be silenced and we will not be intimidated.
00:59:42.000We're here to make Campus conservative again and be the conservative voice on campus.
00:59:47.000Okay, so just summing it all up for everybody those kids are tabling on campus.
00:59:53.000They are trying to register students to vote, right?
00:59:56.000Doing things that we should all be celebrating.
01:00:00.000Some lefty comes up taunting them about the Kirk anniversary.
01:00:04.000She decorated a whole cake, thought it was hilarious, poses for a picture.
01:00:08.000They do it, they post it on social media.
01:00:15.000They're the ones facing expulsion, not the vile ghoul who thought it was so hilarious and issued this fake, phony apology.
01:00:22.000Because then we find out, correct me if I'm wrong here, Nick, that she's quietly behind the scenes leading the charge to get them expelled.
01:00:31.000So, welcome to college campus in 2026, folks.
01:00:36.000Yeah, it's terrifying to think of that.
01:00:37.000And there's actually more going on today as well.
01:00:40.000Like, I'm still in a group message with them, you know, just so that they know that they have support and they're keeping me posted on everything that's happening.
01:00:45.000The college Democrats, the queer club, and another club is now having a protest against Riley, the girl, on campus today, calling the college Republicans and her a campaign of hate.
01:01:46.000Yeah, I think it's a pretty long statement, but.
01:01:49.000They just say a student at the University of Utah made a distasteful joke about the murder of Charlie Kirk.
01:01:53.000In response, the University of Utah College Republicans posted an image of her online with the intent of publicly shaming her.
01:01:59.000It garnered over 6 million views with thousands of hateful comments, doxing her and her family, targeting her appearance, and trying to ruin her life.
01:02:06.000Despite their request to delete it, college Republican leadership doubled down.
01:02:10.000Let's jump ahead, and they say college Democrats condemn the online harassment and cyberbullying perpetrated by the college Republicans in the strongest possible terms.
01:02:19.000We call on the University of Utah administration to create an environment where students can interact without fearing for their safety and to impose consequences on those who encourage participation.
01:02:27.000So, first of all, it's the fact that they're taking cyberbullying and they're treating that as worse than actual in your face, haha, hey, remember that guy you liked?
01:03:55.000So I hope there's a lesson there for them as well.
01:03:57.000It's not over, though, because it's still technically rescheduled with more information forthcoming.
01:04:04.000The attorneys believe that they have a pretty good grasp on it, but it's still an ongoing situation.
01:04:10.000We just got to make sure that we don't turn our head away and then they end up getting.
01:04:15.000You know, they end up coming back on him.
01:04:17.000There's a real warning in this about how the left works.
01:04:21.000That they, I mean, you read the wording of that Democrat statement.
01:04:25.000They're very good at performative victimhood.
01:04:29.000They're very good at weaponizing bureaucratic processes.
01:04:32.000They're complaining about cyberbullying, but this is, in fact, bullying in its truest element we're going to find a way to exploit this system that favors us to hurt you, that will rub something in your face, and when you shove back, we're going to scream and run to the authorities.
01:04:48.000This is a way of preying on people in the 2020s.
01:04:52.000Well, this is one of the reasons we love Harmeet Dillon around here.
01:06:12.000And to think that this stuff is happening to college students on other campuses as well, college Republicans have been dealing with this problem for a long time.
01:06:22.000It's just getting uglier and uglier, right?
01:06:24.000We just happen to be hearing about this time.
01:06:26.000What about the ones that we don't hear about?
01:06:29.000And, you know, of course, they scheduled these things so early in the morning because they were trying to avoid any sort of backlash that, or this exact scenario, really.
01:06:39.000They didn't want the word getting out.
01:06:40.000They didn't think that there was going to be a platform big enough for these kids to spur up a bunch of backlash.
01:06:47.000And that's why, you know, people like us use our platform and use our resources.
01:06:51.000And, you know, when I texted Harmita about it last night, like she was pissed off too.
01:06:58.000You know, can definitely, if these people make the wrong move, if they do end up trying to expel these two young students, I would say it's going to cost that university a lot of money and the DOJ is going to end up getting directly involved.
01:07:12.000Yeah, I mean, what is more troubling, even, you know, big picture here, is what I said earlier about what this Sarah girl did.
01:07:20.000You know, they call it a distasteful joke and then somehow flip it to make them the victims here or make her the victim here.
01:07:27.000But what it is is a normalization of political violence, of assassination culture, of Luigi Mangione, of Tyler Robinson, and they glorify it.
01:07:41.000We're talking about this wrongful, negligent death claim that we're, you know, at UVU.
01:07:47.000That is important because we have to ensure that free speech can continue, right?
01:07:53.000One of the points of doing a lawsuit like that is that you actually make sure it doesn't happen again so that people's lives are protected, right?
01:07:59.000God forbid that gunmen would have sprayed into the crowd and killed a bunch of students, all right?
01:08:03.000As well as Charlie, which was obviously horrific and tragic all on its own.
01:08:08.000But could you imagine if there would have been dozens of family members besides that, right?
01:08:13.000So we gotta make sure that our places of free speech are safe, are secure, are protected.
01:08:19.000Nick, you have been stared down by the left.
01:08:22.000You have stared them back in the eye, and you're a brave guy.
01:08:26.000You have physical courage, unlike many.
01:08:29.000It shouldn't have to be this way, though.
01:08:31.000Explain for our audience, because you've been in the thick of it.
01:08:35.000How scary some of these environments are, how the left talks about violence, how they talk about killing people.
01:08:43.000Yeah, especially when I go to like anti ice riots and such, where in blue cities like Minneapolis, you're there.
01:08:50.000You know, we independent reporters, we're there by ourselves with, you know, the police aren't going to respond if they start targeting you or harassing you or, God forbid, try to hurt you.
01:09:01.000So I have to go to these places in disguise most of the time, just because all it takes is one person.
01:09:07.000One person to call out your name doesn't matter if anybody else in that crowd knows who you are, right?
01:09:12.000They'll spark a mob against you, and then that's when you've seen my vehicles destroyed.
01:09:18.000They've thrown rocks at my head, uh, in through my windows, uh, in Minneapolis.
01:09:24.000They were jumping on my vehicle just because I existed, yeah, uh, just simply because I existed and I was there filming, I wasn't even talking to anybody 90% of the time, uh, and I sure as hell wasn't.
01:11:10.000It is the normalization of the violent murder of your political opponents.
01:11:14.000Well, and I can't be said enough that what a missed opportunity in the direct aftermath of Charlie's assassination to root out so much of this violence, the networks that support it, the communication networks.
01:11:26.000And we all got distracted, and a lot of people went down conspiracy lane, and it was a total missed opportunity.
01:11:32.000I don't want to say full missed opportunity because I should give the Trump administration credit that there have been Antifa cells.
01:11:38.000There have been arrested, charged, in several cases convicted.
01:11:42.000If you read the left's posts on Blue Sky, they freak out about this.
01:12:17.000I mean, again, I just really appreciate you guys stepping up to the plate and not letting these two kids that are just trying to do what's wrong.