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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk Show, the pressure campaign against Joni Ernst continues.

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00:02:21.000 Let's begin kind of connecting yesterday's news cycle to today.

00:02:25.000 Yesterday, we were very clear that if anybody were to vote against Pete Hegseth as a Republican from a Republican state, that they will be met with a primary challenge.

00:02:34.000 And we went to Twitter, otherwise known as X, and we named names, specifically the alleged, but we know what's really going on here, leader of the campaign against Pete Hegseth, which is the queen of the neocons in the U.S. Senate.

00:02:47.000 Again, I'm sure she's a nice person, great table manners, very polite. 0.98

00:02:50.000 I've never met her, so I can't speak to her character.

00:02:52.000 I can speak, though, to her publicly stated positions, her policy, and her campaign to try and thwart and undermine Pete Hegseth.

00:03:00.000 The only downside of what happened with Matt Gaetz is these senators are feeling a little uppity.

00:03:06.000 They feel as if they can challenge the president and basically embrace a pocket veto We're good to go.

00:03:35.000 Because the Bobby Kennedy fight is going to be nuclear.

00:03:38.000 It'll be different, but it's going to be nuclear.

00:03:40.000 You see, with Pete Hegseth, it's not yet identified what special interests specifically are against Pete Hegseth.

00:03:46.000 With Bobby Kennedy, Pfizer, Eli Lilly, AstraZeneca, Moderna, Johnson& Johnson, they're going to have artillery shells.

00:03:53.000 Well, I actually think they're really good parallels.

00:03:55.000 I think the three biggest fights are going to be I think I put her in 1B or maybe even 2, but it's going to be RFK and it's going to be Pete because they are looking to helm the agencies that have the largest amount of private corruption surrounding them.

00:04:15.000 I mean, with Pete, it's the Defense Department, right?

00:04:18.000 The contractors...

00:04:20.000 Make no mistake about this, folks.

00:04:21.000 This is an information op that is being waged against Pete Hegseth.

00:04:26.000 Why?

00:04:27.000 Because there are billions and even trillions of dollars surrounding the contracts that emanate from the Pentagon.

00:04:33.000 And with RFK, similarly, big medicine, big hospital, big pharma...

00:04:38.000 It is the largest budget of the federal budget is HHS. Yeah, and I would say it's the two largest budgets.

00:04:43.000 And so that's why these are going to be the most extreme.

00:04:46.000 Mostly, though, and credit to President Trump because he has the guts and the courage to appoint changemakers, right? 0.90

00:04:54.000 Washington, D.C. is going to fight back against anybody who is not going to be in support of the status quo.

00:05:00.000 And that's what we have here.

00:05:01.000 Pete Hegseth is a guy that looks out for the warfighters, not the war machine.

00:05:05.000 And so Hexeth, it's about Pete, but it's bigger than Pete.

00:05:08.000 Pete is a symbol of whether or not the president gets to choose his cabinet.

00:05:11.000 And if Pete falls, then every single one of these disruptors is going to be in jeopardy.

00:05:17.000 Every single one of them.

00:05:19.000 So this is being led by Senator Joni Ernst of Iowa.

00:05:23.000 By the way, we took a poll from the audience yesterday.

00:05:25.000 We did a poll for you at charliekirk.com.

00:05:27.000 Which center that is currently in cycle do you want to see as primary?

00:05:30.000 Joni Ernst, by far, was the one that the base that you and the Charlie Kirk Show audience wants to see.

00:05:36.000 I'm not saying we're going to do that, but I did get a couple calls from some big donors in Iowa, and they're ready to fund things.

00:05:42.000 By the way, the people in Iowa, there is a whole apparatus already built to primary Joni Ernst.

00:05:50.000 Now, We're holding our fire here.

00:05:52.000 We're not pledging anything.

00:05:54.000 No, we're not threatening to do it if she just sort of goes through the...

00:05:59.000 Well, more than that.

00:05:59.000 She's got to become a leader.

00:06:00.000 She's got a lot of healing to work here. 1.00

00:06:02.000 So Joni Ernst has got to come out, say that you're for Pete, and get all the other neocons to do the same. 0.99

00:06:07.000 Line up.

00:06:08.000 Get it done.

00:06:09.000 Well, and she's now on the record, Charlie, sort of saying she's not publicly saying she's against him.

00:06:16.000 She just wants a chance to go through the confirmation, which is...

00:06:18.000 Is better than where it was.

00:06:20.000 Exactly.

00:06:20.000 It started with serious concerns.

00:06:23.000 We had a really troubled meeting to, well, we have to let the process...

00:06:26.000 A lot of things have moved.

00:06:27.000 Yeah, I got a few text messages from folks when this came out of the Friends Ross pivot gif, because, you know, it definitely was...

00:06:37.000 A tonal shift very much in the sort of like, hey, I'm not against Pete.

00:06:42.000 Everybody relax.

00:06:43.000 Because she was feeling it.

00:06:44.000 Make no mistake, the audience here that's watching right now, you guys lit up her phone lines.

00:06:51.000 She felt it.

00:06:52.000 She felt the heat.

00:06:53.000 But I will just say, she's got a lot of healing because the more people are finding out about Joni Ernst, the less they like her.

00:07:01.000 Look, so let's play some tape here of what Joni Ernst believes.

00:07:05.000 And again, this is, it's a very important context here.

00:07:08.000 If you have a serious, substantive reason why you think that Pete Hex, Hex, that shouldn't be, um, separate defense, then air that.

00:07:17.000 But if you're going to do the Brett Kavanaugh thing, we're not going to put up.

00:07:20.000 It's not going to happen.

00:07:22.000 So maybe this is why Joni Ernst is against Pete Hegseth.

00:07:26.000 Joni Ernst is for mentally ill people serving in the U.S. military.

00:07:30.000 She says that we want the talent of the mentally ill in the U.S. military.

00:07:37.000 Not a joke.

00:07:38.000 Playcut 139. So, the example of transgender people serving in our military.

00:07:44.000 We have transgender people serving in our military.

00:07:48.000 They will bleed red just as the rest of us.

00:07:51.000 But I also take a stance that we should not be integrating transgender people into certain situations where it does make, if you have a female barracks and you have a transgender woman who has not transitioned, We shouldn't make the rest of the unit uncomfortable about that setting.

00:08:11.000 There are certain accommodations we can make for that transgender individual.

00:08:16.000 But if they bring value to our unit, if they have specialties that we can use, especially if we want to maintain an all-volunteer force We want to bring that talent into our services.

00:08:29.000 And I know that's controversial, but again, I'm looking at what's good for our nation.

00:08:36.000 And believe me, when we're facing a recruiting challenge right now, if people are physically willing and able to serve our country, we want them to do so.

00:08:46.000 Look, let's make the enemy uncomfortable. 0.90

00:08:49.000 Not who cares about anything else.

00:08:51.000 The enemy is who should be uncomfortable.

00:08:53.000 And it should be about lethality, not diversity, equity, inclusion, wokeism, or trans advancement. 0.75

00:08:59.000 And so, Joni Ernst, maybe that's one of the reasons why she's against Pete Hegg says she wants a more trans military. 0.99

00:09:05.000 Well, in fairness to Joni Ernst, Charlie, she's not saying...

00:09:09.000 She's against him now.

00:09:10.000 So there was a pivot that happened, right?

00:09:12.000 I mean, and we should go into this.

00:09:14.000 There was an article out of Real Clear Politics from Phil Wegman.

00:09:19.000 But basically, this reporter, Phil, brought up Charlie's tweet.

00:09:24.000 Noting that she voted for Secretary Lloyd Austin.

00:09:28.000 And so this reporter brings up this tweet, Charlie pointing this out.

00:09:32.000 And she says, no, no, Ernst said of the accusation that she was working behind the scenes to sink the nominee.

00:09:38.000 And believe me, I have been feeling this.

00:09:40.000 The senator insisted that there is absolutely no campaign against Pete, adding that her focus remains strictly on ensuring a thorough and fair confirmation process.

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00:10:56.000 I heard from a good source that rana is now a verb.

00:11:02.000 I don't want to be rana'd. 1.00

00:11:04.000 It's a thing.

00:11:06.000 We do not want to be ronned.

00:11:10.000 Remember when Trump said, you're going to win so much, you're going to get tired of winning?

00:11:14.000 I would just say that since November 5th, I'm definitely not tired of winning.

00:11:18.000 Not sick of winning?

00:11:19.000 Yeah.

00:11:20.000 But think about it.

00:11:20.000 Joni Ernst is turning to her staff saying, I don't want to be ronned.

00:11:23.000 I don't want to be taken out by the grassroots.

00:11:26.000 And look, this is a promise.

00:11:28.000 We will find one or two old crows and primaries will be launched.

00:11:32.000 It's going to happen.

00:11:34.000 It might be in Idaho.

00:11:35.000 It might be in South Dakota.

00:11:36.000 It might be in Mississippi.

00:11:39.000 And I want to...

00:11:40.000 This is a really important point.

00:11:42.000 To anybody out there that thinks that these threats are empty or that they're not serious...

00:11:48.000 Ask Chairman Romney.

00:11:49.000 I will just tell you that, first of all, we don't need to get all of you.

00:11:54.000 And you don't know which one is going to be you if you stand in our way.

00:11:58.000 That's correct.

00:11:59.000 Secondly...

00:12:00.000 To your point, the fact that donors are already showing this much enthusiasm to take out senators that put an RNX their name, are happy to go on a stage with Trump when he comes to your state, or try and draft off his coattails,

00:12:16.000 and yet, when it comes down to defending his Picks in the cabinet and you get in the way of that, this is the base and not only the base, the donor class is totally fed up with it and they're sick of it.

00:12:31.000 So if you think that this is 2012 anymore and that you're just going to get away with this, times are a changing, as somebody once wrote.

00:12:38.000 Times are a changing.

00:12:38.000 But here, let me tell you this.

00:12:39.000 It's also, we're being very responsible over this.

00:12:42.000 We are not going to pick senators that are in contentious battles.

00:12:46.000 These are deep, deep red states where the primary is the election.

00:12:50.000 Mississippi, South Dakota, Kansas, Idaho.

00:12:54.000 If we do not fight for a better Republican Party, then what good are our victories?

00:12:59.000 And we don't know which one we're going to go after.

00:13:01.000 We don't know if it's going to be Joni Ernst in Iowa.

00:13:03.000 We don't know if we're going to launch a whole campaign against her. 0.99

00:13:05.000 I hope Joni comes around on this.

00:13:08.000 Again, no decisions have been made, but...

00:13:11.000 There will be one or two or three where we put the entire thing in.

00:13:15.000 All you need to do is be able to pick off one.

00:13:17.000 And these senators think they're untouchable. 0.83

00:13:19.000 Many of them.

00:13:20.000 These old crows.

00:13:21.000 Again, I'm not talking about the good ones.

00:13:22.000 I'm not talking about Jim Banks.

00:13:23.000 I'm not talking about Bernie Moreno.

00:13:24.000 Chuck Grassley.

00:13:24.000 Dave McCormick.

00:13:25.000 By the way, Chuck Grassley's been great.

00:13:26.000 And he's going to vote for Pete Hegseth, it looks like.

00:13:28.000 Katie Britt just came out yesterday. 1.00

00:13:30.000 Katie Britt.

00:13:30.000 Terrific.

00:13:31.000 And we've had our disagreements with Senator Britt.

00:13:33.000 I was texting with her.

00:13:34.000 She's been great.

00:13:35.000 Yeah, she's been great.

00:13:35.000 All you got to do is just vote for the guy.

00:13:36.000 Again, it's not like this ask.

00:13:37.000 I'm not asking you to do something that's that crazy.

00:13:39.000 And I'm not asking you to go against your voters.

00:13:42.000 I want you to think about that.

00:13:43.000 It's not like Charlie Kirk and Turning Point Action are asking you to do something that your voters don't want.

00:13:47.000 I'm just asking you to do what your voters told you to do.

00:13:50.000 That's it.

00:13:51.000 The ask is to listen to the people that gave you political power and do what they want you to do.

00:13:57.000 And red state senators need to reflect their conservative voters.

00:14:03.000 People have long said, Charlie, what is your vision for the Republican Party?

00:14:06.000 I want it to be as conservative as its voters.

00:14:10.000 I just want them to come into alignment with one another.

00:14:13.000 And so, as we start to consider what primaries to engage in, it's actually interesting.

00:14:18.000 These confirmation fights are being very instructive in our 2025-2026 plans of what candidates do we draft?

00:14:26.000 What states do we go after?

00:14:28.000 How enthusiastic are you trying to help President Trump?

00:14:31.000 Are you actually fighting for President Trump in the trenches?

00:14:33.000 Are you trying to fight his cabinet?

00:14:35.000 Are you making Pete Hegsteth's job harder?

00:14:37.000 And honestly, for some of it, like Joni Ernst, it's not going to be enough right now that she just supports Pete Hegsteth.

00:14:42.000 She's going to have to go become a cheerleader. 1.00

00:14:44.000 Like, go out on the cable shows.

00:14:45.000 I was a skeptic.

00:14:46.000 Now I'm a believer.

00:14:47.000 And you will win over a lot of people, and the blitzkrieg can go to some other member.

00:14:53.000 And look, just so we're clear, what we did yesterday with Senator Ernst, That was very effective.

00:15:00.000 Listen, we want to be supportive.

00:15:05.000 We want to be supportive of all 53 senators, candidly.

00:15:08.000 I would love to sit here in a couple months.

00:15:10.000 Our temperament is not disagreeable by nature.

00:15:12.000 No, we are not here to just be a bull in a China shop or just cause issues within the conservative movement.

00:15:19.000 Our issue is that if you are going to align yourself with Mitch McConnell, and you think that's going to be your ticket...

00:15:26.000 By the way, even Thune has been signaling...

00:15:29.000 Well, Thune's great.

00:15:30.000 Yeah, he's been signaling...

00:15:31.000 Not great, but Thune has been great.

00:15:32.000 Let me be clear.

00:15:33.000 Exactly.

00:15:33.000 So my point is...

00:15:34.000 Thune has been great on personnel.

00:15:35.000 My point is that there is an avenue here for you to redeem yourself.

00:15:40.000 That avenue is open to you.

00:15:41.000 But we will raise holy hell if you stand in the way of this historic mandate.

00:15:45.000 And that is not an empty threat.

00:15:47.000 Yes, and if you continue to do this rubbish where you are pushing against nominees that obviously are qualified, the grassroots is just waking up.

00:15:59.000 And by the way, there's a lot of time left on the clock if you guys want to avoid a primary.

00:16:04.000 When Bobby Kennedy names come up, get behind it.

00:16:06.000 When Tulsi Gabbard, get behind it.

00:16:08.000 What we are going to do at Turning Point Action is watch closely.

00:16:12.000 Pressure campaign and then grade how you guys handle these confirmation fights.

00:16:16.000 And based on that, there might be a primary coming near you.

00:16:19.000 And it will be very well funded.

00:16:21.000 And it will be very serious.

00:16:23.000 We don't know where yet.

00:16:24.000 But these are not empty threats.

00:16:26.000 Just ask Ronna McRomney. 0.92

00:16:29.000 Joining us now is Congressman Chip Roy.

00:16:31.000 He does a wonderful job.

00:16:32.000 Congressman, lots of the discuss here.

00:16:34.000 First and foremost, tell us about Elon and Vivek coming to the Hill yesterday and the Doge meeting.

00:16:40.000 What went down?

00:16:42.000 Yeah, Charlie, great to be on.

00:16:44.000 Merry Christmas to you.

00:16:45.000 You know, we're a pretty good state of affairs right now when you've got the administration coming in.

00:16:52.000 You know, I was down in Florida with some friends just a couple days ago.

00:16:55.000 Come back, we've got Elon and Vivek Meeting with the Republican conference to talk about what they're going to do with Doge, right?

00:17:03.000 This Department of Government of Efficiency.

00:17:05.000 My only complaint is that efficiency really should be elimination more than efficiency.

00:17:09.000 But at the end of the day, we had a really good conversation.

00:17:12.000 And look, I think their primary and best role is going to be to expose the absurdity of government spending, demonstrating to the American people, which will then increase pressure on Congress to do its job.

00:17:28.000 But also the incoming administration, Russ Vogt coming in as the OMB director.

00:17:32.000 Those guys will be able to work closely with them, and they are already working closely to identify, you know, where they can cut.

00:17:38.000 But it's not just waste.

00:17:40.000 It's not just, you know, the fraud and abuse.

00:17:42.000 Those terms get thrown around a lot.

00:17:44.000 We've got to remember that Congress for too long has just been writing blank checks.

00:17:48.000 And that was the one thing I said somewhat critically or introspectively of Congress yesterday in front of Ilan and Vivek.

00:17:54.000 Guys, you know, you're looking for the enemy, and the enemy's here.

00:17:58.000 Like, if you look in the room, you know, look in the mirror.

00:18:01.000 Congress has been funding this stuff for way too long.

00:18:04.000 So let's all get on board.

00:18:06.000 Let's applaud Elon and move back.

00:18:08.000 But now let's deliver.

00:18:10.000 Congress has to do our job.

00:18:11.000 We have Article I authority of the power of the purse.

00:18:13.000 Let's get it right this time.

00:18:15.000 So I have a wonky question here, Chip, that is being debated and has definitely been discussed in transition circles, both publicly and privately.

00:18:25.000 If the executive branch is appropriated from Congress, let's say $200 billion for the Department of Education, And the Department of Education, Linda McMahon, is doing a great job.

00:18:36.000 And the president only spent $150 billion.

00:18:40.000 Is the executive branch allowed to then send that money back to Congress and say, this was unnecessary.

00:18:47.000 Thanks so much.

00:18:48.000 Here's $50 billion back.

00:18:50.000 So what you're talking about in broad terms is what my friend Russ Vogt and others have been talking about is impoundment.

00:18:57.000 And that is the authority of the president, effectively, to not spend all of the money that Congress sends to the president.

00:19:04.000 I happen to believe that that is, in fact, constitutionally correct, that we appropriate the president and the executive function can choose within some degree of reason, right?

00:19:15.000 This is always some of the questions you have to deal with.

00:19:19.000 I don't think the president has the unilateral authority to just say I'm zeroing out an agency without Congress saying, oh, hold on a second, we appropriated for the Department of Defense X. You can't just zero that out.

00:19:31.000 But I think if the president says, look, there's waste, there's fraud, I don't agree with these particular directions, I'm going to direct as the executive this particular agency to go do ABC, maybe it's the Department of Homeland Security.

00:19:42.000 But yeah, I don't think we need to spend all this money on these ridiculous programs, DEI and other stuff.

00:19:48.000 So I'm saving some money.

00:19:49.000 I think there's a lot of room there for the president to do that under the Constitution.

00:19:54.000 The impoundment, the Budget Control Act included an impoundment It tried to restrict the president from being able to spend less.

00:20:02.000 I think that was unconstitutional.

00:20:04.000 I think that is constraining the president.

00:20:07.000 I'm an Article I guy.

00:20:08.000 I think Congress does have to flex its muscle.

00:20:11.000 But in this case, the president is the one who executes.

00:20:15.000 So Congress hears the appropriations.

00:20:16.000 He wants to spend less.

00:20:18.000 I think he has the authority within some degree of reason to do that and should.

00:20:21.000 And I think Elon and Vivek, Russ Vogt, and others will be ready to do that.

00:20:25.000 I hope everyone understands, this is very important, that if we have a budget fight in Congress that we lose, which we're going to win some and lose some, you know this, Chip, and then all of a sudden the executive branch says, but hey, we have Doge, we have Vivek, we have Elon, and we're able to just be, we're only going to spend 80% of what Congress sends us, and we're able to prove it, you can then actually cut spending even if Congress fails the test.

00:20:50.000 Potentially, theoretically, if the Supreme Court can come in in favor of the Impoundment Act.

00:20:55.000 Is that fair, Chip?

00:20:57.000 Yeah, that is fair.

00:20:58.000 I think that is correct.

00:20:59.000 And my friend in reply from Georgia has legislation to actually cut out that language that we believe is constitutionally problematic.

00:21:07.000 And I support that bill.

00:21:09.000 I'm not sure the bill is necessary, right?

00:21:11.000 I think the president can act under the Constitution.

00:21:14.000 It would be litigated.

00:21:15.000 And I think the Supreme Court, again, within reason, would fall in behind the president's authority to do that and pretty aggressively be able to do that.

00:21:24.000 You just can't fundamentally rewrite it all and just zero it out.

00:21:28.000 So, you know, courts would probably set some parameters. 0.97

00:21:31.000 I think Congress could probably set some parameters, but I don't think Congress can say that the president is unable to reduce the spending.

00:21:39.000 It will be critical, to your point, for the president through his OMB and through all the people working with him and for him.

00:21:46.000 Doge is kind of its own island over here.

00:21:48.000 I'm not even 100 percent sure yet how it will be formally structured.

00:21:51.000 But however that plays out, the president is going to be very important to shrinking the bureaucracy, shrinking the weaponized government, undoing the damage of the bloated government.

00:22:04.000 Congress needs to come in behind them and do smart appropriations and back them up and say, no, you do have the authority to do that.

00:22:11.000 We support you doing that.

00:22:13.000 And here are our appropriations bills.

00:22:15.000 But I don't want Congress to be absolved of the responsibility to pass responsible appropriations bills and handle the reconciliation process properly.

00:22:24.000 We still must do that.

00:22:26.000 It's critical.

00:22:27.000 Trust me, I agree.

00:22:28.000 I'm skeptical at times that the beast is going to be able to be stood up to.

00:22:34.000 So am I. That's where I think the executive branch having some agility and some capacity could end up saving hundreds of billions of dollars.

00:22:45.000 Hundreds of billions of dollars.

00:22:46.000 And with that...

00:22:48.000 Calm the bond markets a little bit.

00:22:50.000 Hope everyone understands this, is that the bond markets will look for signals that spending will get under control and the deficit can be controlled.

00:22:59.000 Inflation is being driven by our deficit.

00:23:03.000 That simple.

00:23:04.000 We are creating money out of thin air and purchasing bonds and it gets flooding into the system.

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00:24:16.000 You have never been a rubber stamp for President Trump.

00:24:19.000 You support him when you can, and you're an honest broker.

00:24:23.000 Grade his cabinet picks and grade this transition, please.

00:24:27.000 Look, I think the president has been doing an exceptional job since November 5th.

00:24:31.000 And yeah, I try to be an honest broker.

00:24:34.000 I'm constitutionally required to be an honest broker.

00:24:36.000 But look, the president did an exceptional job on the campaign.

00:24:40.000 He built a coalition that is representative of, I think, the shifting sands and the political climate and landscape.

00:24:47.000 And I think he's made a lot of exceptional picks.

00:24:51.000 Let me just go through a handful.

00:24:52.000 Look, I think, first and foremost, we've talked about Russ Boat.

00:24:56.000 That's a really exceptional pick at OMB to return to that post.

00:25:00.000 I think the only person that has been nominated to return to the same post.

00:25:03.000 He's phenomenal.

00:25:04.000 I think Brendan Carr at the FCC, exceptional pick, free speech advocate, wants to go hold big tech and check.

00:25:11.000 I think we've seen having Tulsi Gabbard as a new and refreshing view about not being constantly engaged in endless wars.

00:25:19.000 I think Pete Hegseth was an exceptional pick.

00:25:22.000 I know he's under fire from the Senate, but he's under fire from squishy senators who have been against everything we want to do.

00:25:28.000 And so I hope Pete holds the line all the way through.

00:25:31.000 I'm defending him And we should all defend him.

00:25:33.000 You know, look, we've all had some indiscretions in our past and things like that.

00:25:37.000 Every human has.

00:25:38.000 But good grief.

00:25:40.000 Pete Eck said, you know, he's got the support of so many people.

00:25:43.000 And he represents somebody who would take on the defense establishment.

00:25:47.000 And we need that.

00:25:48.000 Desperately need that.

00:25:50.000 Bobby Kennedy.

00:25:51.000 You and I disagree with Bobby Kennedy on a lot of things, Charlie.

00:25:54.000 Life in particular.

00:25:56.000 But Bobby Kennedy represents somebody who would shake up the healthcare establishment.

00:26:01.000 Callie Means, Marty McCary.

00:26:04.000 These are people that are going to change the way we focus on the power at the FDA and the power that we've got in all of the bureaucracy over there and undermine the power that the insurance companies and hospitals and all those guys have.

00:26:18.000 Now, do I agree with those guys on everything?

00:26:20.000 No.

00:26:20.000 But look, I think these are all exceptional picks, Charlie.

00:26:24.000 I had some disagreement.

00:26:25.000 Like, I'm glad the DEA pick stepped down.

00:26:27.000 I think that was a misfire.

00:26:29.000 The DEA guy that had, like, been a COVID tyrant basically shared, you know, I don't know, arrested a pastor.

00:26:36.000 I'm glad the DEA guy stepped down.

00:26:38.000 There's one or two others that aren't necessarily my favorites, but I think Cash Patel will be great at rooting out the FBI. Sorry, I'm just going around the list from my memory, but I think it's been really good.

00:26:49.000 Now we've got to get busy getting the reconciliation packages and getting structured to deliver in January.

00:26:54.000 In closing here, Congressman, help me and the audience understand, speculate a little bit of the Senate.

00:27:00.000 Why is it that Senate Republicans from deep blood red states are enthusiastic at one point to vote for Biden's nominees, but put up all this drama for Trump's nominees?

00:27:11.000 Help the audience understand the psychology here.

00:27:14.000 Yeah, well, look, let's just speak very directly about Senator Ernst in Iowa, who's been attacking Pete Hegseth.

00:27:19.000 This is somebody who wants to draft our daughters, Charlie, which I strongly oppose.

00:27:23.000 Over my dead body, are we going to pass and draft our daughters? 1.00

00:27:26.000 This is someone that was, you know, voting for gay marriage.

00:27:29.000 This is This is somebody that's voted for all of those bad nominees you just talked about.

00:27:34.000 She was out there championing the bad Senate border bill and then criticizing President Trump for opposing that bill.

00:27:40.000 So look, let's be very clear.

00:27:42.000 These are people who do not share the perspective of the American people that sent President Trump back into office, that gave us the House and the Senate, and they want change.

00:27:51.000 You know, that's status quo stuff.

00:27:54.000 That's more of the swamp speed.

00:27:56.000 And look, go look at the votes of senators.

00:27:58.000 They've been doing this for years.

00:27:59.000 They're having to be dragged, kicking and screaming, to the place where the American people are.

00:28:05.000 They don't know what time it is in America, but they're about to find out.

00:28:08.000 And the truth is, we're ready to get the job done.

00:28:12.000 They better get the hell out of the way.

00:28:14.000 Let the administration do what it needs to do.

00:28:16.000 Yes, check the administration's separation of powers.

00:28:19.000 You know I believe that.

00:28:20.000 It's important whether it's Biden or Trump, okay?

00:28:23.000 The Constitution matters regardless.

00:28:25.000 But get out of the way of these good picks who want to shake up the town. 0.85

00:28:29.000 Get busy legislating and doing the right thing.

00:28:31.000 I totally agree.

00:28:32.000 I just look, if there's a serious advice and consent issue, fine.

00:28:37.000 Great.

00:28:37.000 That's not what we're talking about here.

00:28:38.000 We're talking about Kavanaugh BS, okay?

00:28:40.000 We're not going to put up with that.

00:28:42.000 Your voters want Pete Hegseth, so give them Pete Hegseth.

00:28:46.000 Thank you so much, Congressman.

00:28:47.000 Appreciate it.

00:28:47.000 Talk to you soon.

00:28:48.000 Merry Christmas, Charlie.

00:28:49.000 Take care.

00:28:50.000 Likewise.

00:28:50.000 We say Merry Christmas again.

00:28:51.000 America's back.

00:28:52.000 Make sure you get your tickets to AmericaFest.

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00:28:57.000 Somebody's thinking of running for president on the Democrat side.

00:29:00.000 Yeah, well, I mean, of course you're talking about Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

00:29:05.000 It's still rumored.

00:29:06.000 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

00:29:08.000 We are in sunny South Florida.

00:29:10.000 You gotta say it the rush way.

00:29:11.000 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

00:29:13.000 So, yeah, so it's been rumored that she is considering running for president. 0.97

00:29:17.000 Apparently she said this like 10 years ago.

00:29:21.000 She put on the calendar, 2028, that was when she was going to make her move.

00:29:27.000 So, because of how the turmoil surrounded the Democrats and the disarray, they can't figure out which way is up.

00:29:35.000 You know, their new DCC chair, whatever, DCCC, he's saying we don't have to abandon immigrants and we don't have to abandon trans rights and all this stuff in order to win.

00:29:46.000 I mean, they're not learning, Charlie.

00:29:50.000 There's a congressman out of Massachusetts, I forget his name off the top of my head, Blake will have it for me, who just said, hey, you know, I don't want my daughters playing on a sports field with men. 0.96

00:30:00.000 And they're going to primary him now.

00:30:02.000 So in all of this turmoil, in all this disarray, somebody like AOC, who's kind of got that populist, left-wing populism.

00:30:11.000 Oh, I think AOC would be familiar.

00:30:12.000 Well, I actually totally agree.

00:30:13.000 She is willing to, on her Instagram stream, she's saying like, hey, I want to hear what your thoughts, why we lost, I want to learn.

00:30:21.000 She's saying the right thing.

00:30:23.000 Seth Moulton out of Massachusetts, that's the congressman that's getting primaried now because he dared speak up against the trans lobby.

00:30:29.000 Yeah.

00:30:29.000 So she's saying all of these right things.

00:30:32.000 Now, meanwhile, Politico has a new story that Ocasio-Cortez is set to launch bid for top role on the Oversight Committee and Dems are predicting that she's going to win.

00:30:43.000 Look, AOC, if you look at her social media, she has extraordinary amount of followers for a lawmaker. 1.00

00:30:48.000 Yeah.

00:30:49.000 She understands the internet.

00:30:50.000 She understands how to navigate.

00:30:52.000 She has 12.8 million on Twitter, triple what we have.

00:30:54.000 That's one of the most popular lawmakers out there.

00:30:57.000 Nearly 8.2 million followers on Instagram.

00:31:00.000 Now, of course, she's been regime-supported for years, right?

00:31:02.000 So a lot of favorable treatment.

00:31:05.000 I think that's an interesting thing you just said.

00:31:07.000 When she came on, she was like this disruptor on the scene.

00:31:10.000 She was a disruptor. 0.93

00:31:11.000 And now...

00:31:13.000 A lot of the people that supported her early are now upset with AOC because she's become...

00:31:18.000 She's very pro-war. 0.71

00:31:20.000 She's like a regime puppet. 1.00

00:31:21.000 Yeah, she was getting...

00:31:21.000 I'll tell you this.

00:31:22.000 In the new era...

00:31:24.000 Again, the general election, I think if it's JD versus AOC, I think JD wins.

00:31:28.000 However...

00:31:28.000 In the Democrat primary, AOC will be very, very difficult to beat.

00:31:32.000 She understands the base of the Democrat Party.

00:31:34.000 She understands how to go viral.

00:31:36.000 She understands the issues that animate them.

00:31:39.000 And she's willing to play ball with the economic populism stuff that most Democrats aren't. 0.99

00:31:44.000 However, she's so bad on immigration in a general election. 0.94

00:31:47.000 She's so bad on social issues. 1.00

00:31:49.000 She's so bad on radical environmentalism. 0.99

00:31:52.000 But people say, oh, she's a moron. 1.00

00:31:54.000 She's a lot smarter than... 1.00

00:31:56.000 As far as being able to go viral, gain an audience, garner an audience, and navigate that.

00:32:03.000 A lot smarter than you might think.

00:32:04.000 I totally agree.

00:32:04.000 We underestimate AOC's popularity, especially within a Democrat caucus, at our own peril.

00:32:10.000 Now, the people in this audience are gonna be like, Charlie, she's a moron. 0.94

00:32:13.000 Andrew, she's a moron. 1.00

00:32:13.000 I get it. 1.00

00:32:15.000 I do agree with Charlie.

00:32:16.000 She's going to have a heck of a time in a general. 1.00

00:32:18.000 But who in the Democrat Party could beat her in a primary?

00:32:24.000 Bernie Sanders, but he's too old.

00:32:26.000 I think Bernie's going to christen somebody.

00:32:28.000 He's going to endorse her.

00:32:29.000 I think Bernie would do a big thing saying she is the heir apparent.

00:32:33.000 She's younger.

00:32:33.000 She believes what I believe.

00:32:35.000 You know, AOC, the future is yours.

00:32:37.000 But I mean, look, the Democrat primary is already going to be starting in earnest very soon.

00:32:42.000 And what is going to determine it?

00:32:45.000 Just wait until you start seeing people.

00:32:47.000 Gavin Newsom's book is just going to be him staring up to the sky, how I saved the world and I want credit for it, right?

00:32:53.000 And then you're going to have Kamala Harris just with very dark saying, I tried to warn you.

00:32:57.000 Yeah, this is why he's getting a $25 million slush fund to fight Trump's mass immigration or deportation.

00:33:05.000 It's all about 2020. It's all about scoring points.

00:33:07.000 I think Gavin's chances have really gone down.

00:33:08.000 I think that AOC would be able to unite the tribes.

00:33:12.000 The question is this.

00:33:13.000 Is the future of the Democrat Party, given that we still have an Electoral College, thankfully, is it going to be going in the way of George McGovern, very, very far left, or going in the way of Bill Clinton?

00:33:24.000 There has not been a successful Democrat candidate, unless it's Obama, that has been able to kind of build that coalition.

00:33:31.000 Because the Electoral College, temperamentally, in a political year, presidential year, tilts center-right.

00:33:37.000 So AOC will be very formidable.

00:33:38.000 It'll be interesting to see if AOC could win back any of the Hispanic vote because of the... 1.00

00:33:43.000 She's Hispanic. 1.00

00:33:44.000 I don't think Hispanic men are going... 1.00

00:33:45.000 She would do better with some younger voters at the same time. 0.90

00:33:49.000 Democrat politics does not necessarily translate into general election politics.

00:33:53.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:33:54.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:33:57.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - December 06, 2024

We're Serious: Sabotage Trump, Get Primaried

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