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00:03:21.000So we were promised all of the January 6th tapes.
00:03:25.000We got some of them last week from Speaker Johnson.
00:03:29.000It is obvious that Speaker Johnson is trying to put a band-aid on the gashing head wound that his political future is experiencing because he just disappointed us all by giving all the leverage, all the ability to cut spending to Chuck U. Schumer and Joe Biden.
00:03:47.000When right now, this should be the number one week, just so we're clear, where they're working on cutting spending.
00:04:11.000You unacceptably gave the Democrats and the regime spenders everything they wanted going into a new year, which I doubt we're going to get serious spending reform.
00:04:21.000You could have here, but forget it there.
00:04:35.000What did we learn, if anything, with the tapes being released last week?
00:04:39.000Well, I think we learned that the majority, overwhelming majority of the American people have not seen video like this, Charlie.
00:04:48.000You and I have because you've been covering this and I've had access to this surveillance video for the last year or so and also in court exhibits and trials.
00:04:58.000But most Americans have not seen video of police standing right there as protesters walk throughout the building.
00:05:06.000They have not seen video of police standing by an open door, fist bumping or allowing hundreds of people inside the building.
00:05:17.000They certainly have not seen video of a suspected perpetrator who was handcuffed and then released, fist bump what looks like an undercover police officer.
00:05:55.000More importantly, they want to know why the people responsible for securing the Capitol, that person was not Donald Trump.
00:06:01.000It was Nancy Pelosi, why they left the Capitol so vulnerable that day.
00:06:07.000And now you see police officers on tape letting people inside the building.
00:06:12.000So how much of the tapes have now been released and what are we still waiting for?
00:06:16.000I think this first tranche was just several hours.
00:06:20.000I believe it was maybe a total of 40 to 50 hours.
00:06:24.000Of course, there are thousands of hours.
00:06:26.000I think there's up to 44,000 hours of footage.
00:06:29.000And this is throughout the Capitol complex, Charlie.
00:06:31.000A lot of that video has nothing to do with the events of four-hour disturbance that afternoon, but also video that they have archived from January 5th and going into the 7th.
00:06:41.000So there is a lot more for the American people to see.
00:06:45.000And you see these people, protesters, walking right through a part of the building with police standing there.
00:06:52.000There will be more shocking video clips that will be made public.
00:06:56.000And I think mostly related to the very violent behavior of police that day.
00:07:02.000And that includes DC Metro police who were throwing what they call non-lethal munition devices into the crowd, stun grenades, flashbangs, pepper balls, rubber bullets, copious amounts of tear gas, violating engagement rules, common engagement rules that law enforcement agencies have to follow, resulting in the death of three individuals, including two female Trump supporters that day.
00:07:28.000And Charlie, this is why the Department of Justice and the Capitol Police and January 6th committee members have wanted to keep this video under protective orders, which they've successfully done so really since early 2021.
00:07:42.000And now thanks to, and Kevin McCarthy was putting this together over the last several months, but thanks to Mike Johnson and Matt Gates, they finally pulled the trigger here.
00:07:53.000And this will be the first of an ongoing rolling production of this video to the American people.
00:07:58.000Yeah, and you can see here the B-roll, everyone were playing it.
00:08:43.000They've already arrested dozens of people who never went inside the building.
00:08:48.000I mean, they charged Enrico Enrique Terrio, the head of the Proud Boys, with seditious conspiracy, and he was in a Baltimore hotel that day.
00:08:57.000So, of course, they have been charging people with disorderly conduct or being present on restricted grounds, other crimes for people who did not go inside the building.
00:09:08.000But to your point, Charlie, the arrests are ongoing.
00:09:12.000And Matthew Graves, the D.C. U.S. attorney appointed by Joe Biden in 2021, told the Washington Post last year he expects the total caseload to exceed 2,000 defendants.
00:09:24.000We already have more than 1,200 Americans who have been investigated, arrested, subjected to armed FBI raids, prosecuted, taken plea deals, found guilty at trial, and of course incarcerated related to their participation in January 6th, that they are arresting people every week.
00:09:44.000This month, the pace has really accelerated.
00:09:47.000I'm getting alerts almost every day that Matthew Graves' office has announced new charges against a new defendant.
00:09:54.000So this is all to create optics, Charlie.
00:09:56.000So now we have the fight, the optics fight between the newly released video and people coming to terms with what really might have happened on January 6th, not the media narrative or selected clips that they've seen on the news.
00:10:10.000But now also the accelerated pace of charges and arrests to keep January 6th in the news as we move closer to Donald Trump's March 4th trial in Washington, D.C. related to January 6th.
00:10:25.000So you've got these kind of competing interests happening right now.
00:10:28.000This is why the timeliness of releasing this video certainly does not work in the government's favor or special counsel Jack Smith, because they need to stay tethered to the idea this was a violent insurrection incited by Donald Trump, not something where hundreds of people entered the building with police standing right there, people with no weapons, no intent to do any violence, walking around for 15 or 20 minutes and then leaving.
00:10:55.000So that's why the timing right now is not ideal for the DOJ.
00:11:01.000So just really quickly, because the narrative is still out there, just remind our audience who died on that day and who and why, because they'll use the word deadly insurrection.
00:11:14.000But outside of Ashley Babbitt, was any police officer killed?
00:11:20.000Of course, you remember early on we were told that Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick had been bludgeoned to death with a fire extinguisher.
00:11:28.000That's what the New York Times reported on January 8th of 2021.
00:11:32.000So that became sort of the animating story of January 6th.
00:11:37.000And he received this hero's burial in the rotunda.
00:11:55.000We find out in April of 2021, a delayed autopsy report from the DC coroner says, no, he died of a stroke, two strokes caused by a blood clot near his brain.
00:12:26.000And this because of the winds getting kicked back to Brian Signick.
00:12:29.000But even so, he didn't die as a result of being hit with any sort of chemical spray.
00:12:34.000The individuals who died that day, Ashley Babbitt, shot to death by Capitol Police Officer Lieutenant Michael Byrd.
00:12:41.000Roseanne Boyland, a Trump supporter from Georgia, who the DC coroner said died of a meth overdose, actually died as a result of excessive force, being trampled to death, gassed, and then beaten by police officers in the lower West Tunnel Terrace Tunnel.
00:12:59.000And then two men, Kevin Greeson and Benjamin Phillips, both of whom died of cardiac arrest, at least one, possibly two, due to the use of those flashbangs outside the crowd that started about 1:10 that afternoon.
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00:14:18.000So, Julie, let me ask you: Chad Pergram from Fox News says, Speaker Johnson, processing will involve blurring the faces of private citizens on the yet unreleased tapes to avoid any persons from being targeted for retaliation of any kind and segregating an estimated 5% of the videos that may involve sensitive security information.
00:14:41.000Well, I think that that's probably part of the agreement that House Republicans had to consent to to get authorization from Capitol Police, who technically own this trove, even though Capitol Police work for Congress.
00:14:55.000They're part of the legislative branch, so they're not a private security agency.
00:15:02.000And you do want to blur out some individuals because the argument from the beginning is that you don't want to give more material to these online groups like sedition hunters, who will then zone in on people's faces who haven't been arrested yet, plaster that all over social media and try to get more people in trouble.
00:15:23.000So I suspect that that was part of trying to protect innocent people from this vengeful online presence.
00:15:30.000They call themselves SLUS and of course the DOJ.
00:15:33.000And then security reasons, you certainly do want to keep certain areas like evacuation routes concealed.
00:15:42.000Although that wasn't the case, you'll recall with Nancy Pelosi's daughter, who filmed her exiting the house through the evacuation route, getting to a vehicle, and then being taken to Fort McNair that day.
00:15:54.000So it didn't apply to her, but it does apply to our side.
00:15:57.000So I do think they're trying to be cautious at this point.
00:16:00.000But look, that's sort of neither here nor there.
00:16:05.000I'm going to be posting some new surveillance video hopefully this week.
00:16:09.000My team is working on that now to show this level of police brutality.
00:16:14.000But there's plenty for the American people to see besides some of the individuals who might have out blurred out faces or certainly secure areas of the complex.
00:16:23.000So let me ask you, Julie, there's this video that I think we've been trying to upload here of Capitol Police, which what seems to be paintball guns firing on the crowd.
00:16:38.000So, and I've posted some of this with my first report, I'll tell you, Charlie, the first time someone sent me video of Capitol and Metropolitan Police throwing flashbangs into the crowd, I think it was someone sent it to me in April of 2021.
00:16:53.000I thought it was doctored video because here I had been reporting on January 6th every day, really, for months and had never seen that.
00:17:04.000So, what Capitol Police had were these rifle-like devices with pepper balls, which is basically a dry powder version of pepper spray.
00:17:14.000So, they were shooting these balls into the crowd outside.
00:17:19.000Now, keep in mind, 90% of those people were peaceful.
00:17:23.000A lot of people had started walking from Trump's speech, which ended at 1:10, which is when Metropolitan Police, DC Police, and Capitol Police launched this attack on people outside.
00:17:34.000So, we had people coming up, all of the signage, limited signage, the bike wrecks had already been gone.
00:17:41.000And people are walking up and they're starting to get hit with these flashbangs, with pepper balls that then, when they hit, they deploy a gas.
00:17:52.000So, Capitol Police were using these pepper balls.
00:17:55.000Metropolitan police, as I said, were using stun grenades, something called sting balls, which when they hit the ground, they deploy all of these rubber bullets and copious amounts of tear gas.
00:18:07.000I have called January 6th the worst incident of police brutality since the civil rights era.
00:18:14.000And the more and more video that comes out, not just surveillance video, Charlie, but more importantly, body-worn camera footage, which I've also posted, showing what these police officers were doing, is I think is going to be really alarming to the American people.
00:18:31.000So, the question is: who authorized them to use these munitions?
00:18:37.000Capitol Police officers have testified in court that they were not trained, that they have never even used devices like this until January 6th, 2021.
00:18:47.000Certainly, Metropolitan Police officers violated a number of laws, not the least of which is Officer Lila Morris, who took her baton and beat a lifeless Roseanne Boyland, who was laying on the ground around 4:30 that afternoon, probably already dead or very close to passing away, as this police officer beat her near her head that day.
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00:21:32.000One of the reasons you can see so many ignorant college kids and ignorant adults throughout the world demonstrating in favor of Hamas, a Nazi organization whose charter explicitly calls for the murder of every Jew on earth and the destruction of Israel, is because these people don't know the truth about the Arab-Islamic war against Israel.
00:22:02.000And I blame, frankly, Israeli officials, rabbis, and Jewish leaders for not telling the truth about the so-called occupation, for example.
00:22:14.000In many of these rallies, you have kids screaming because there's an occupation and a deke and colonization.
00:22:22.000You can do Hamas can do anything to stop this occupation.
00:22:26.000What is the truth, though, that they don't know, that none of the Jewish leaders ever talk about?
00:24:32.000And the prime ministers have told me they have to remove a clause that says you have to limit the number of Palestinian Arabs to come into Israel to 150,000.
00:25:10.000Another thing they don't realize that would make them hesitant to be supporting Hamas is that the Palestinian Authority pays terrorists, Arab terrorists, lifetime pensions to murder Jews.
00:25:21.000They spend $400 million a year to pay Arabs lifetime pensions to murder Jews.
00:25:26.000The more Jews they murder, the higher their pension.
00:25:29.000They name schools, streets, and sports teams after Jew killers and Christian killers.
00:25:35.000Taylor Force was a Christian walking in Tel Aviv who they murdered as a Christian.
00:25:42.000And they also don't realize that only this very week, Muhammad Ala Zahar, the co-founder of Hamas, made a speech.
00:25:50.000It's on the internet saying, we want the world to know the Jews of Israel are only first.
00:25:56.000After we kill all the Jews of Israel, then we will kill the despicable Christians.
00:26:03.000And after that, we will impose Islamic law on the entire world.
00:26:08.000If these students and other people understood these things and much more, they would be much more hesitant to want to be rallying in support of the Palestinian Arabs, whose polls this very week show that 85% of the Palestinians Arabs support murdering Jews and support Hamas and support destroying Israel.
00:26:31.000So it's not just Hamas, these terrible leaders.
00:26:34.000It's the Palestinian Arab people themselves who are really a grotesque culture that promotes murder and violence and rape and torture.
00:26:43.000And so more, I want to zero in on one thing.
00:26:46.000The students here in America, they live awfully pampered upper middle class privileged lives, many of them.
00:26:53.000They go to university campuses where everything is provided to them.
00:26:58.000And yet of all the causes they decide to align with, they align with people that could be best described as savage beasts from the pit of hell, engaging in outright demonic activity against a sovereign nation.
00:27:13.000You've been doing this for quite some time.
00:27:14.000My analysis is that when you train young people to view everything through an oppressor-oppressed type lens, they will then use that with the Israel-Hamas, Israel, Gaza type lens, I suppose.
00:27:29.000And the public opinion polls that you mentioned, I just want to make sure everyone is clear.
00:27:33.00089% of Palestinians support terror groups known for suicide attacks, while 75% approve of the October 7th massacre.
00:27:42.000Now, I want to be very clear here, Mort.
00:27:45.000Just re-emphasize that for our audience.
00:27:47.000Three out of four people in Gaza support what these people did on October 7th.
00:28:32.000And so I just see that we need, as the president of Egypt, As-Sisi, President As-Sisi, said a few years ago, they need a reformation of Islam, where they make it clear that no longer should these types of edicts in the Quran be followed.
00:28:54.000Only two weeks ago, Al-Azhar University, which is the West Point of the Islamic Training Ground in Cairo, Egypt, they issued an edict several weeks ago stating, ordering, you must go and kill every Jew in Israel.
00:29:23.000It is not only about Al-Azhar, but why aren't they screaming about what Muhammad Al-Zahar, the co-founder of Hamas, said about killing all the Jews and then killing all the Christians?
00:29:35.000We are protecting this terrible culture and we're protecting a religion that needs reformation, as the president of Egypt said in a speech at Al-Azhar University a few years ago.
00:30:32.000Well, because of the history of the Jewish people for several thousand years of persecution, hatred, pogroms, Holocaust, we are very frightened of the non-Jewish world because of what Jews have experienced.
00:30:49.000And so we are desperate to say we are with you, non-Jewish world.
00:30:55.000They become Democrats because they want programs to allegedly help people, even though they really don't.
00:31:02.000They want to have national health insurance, all sorts of programs to help people thinking.
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00:32:54.000So, Mort, are you afraid that some people get caught up in left-wing politics, they overuse the slur or the slander of anti-Semite?
00:33:08.000It is frustrating for me, for example, to receive that criticism because unfortunately, overusing a label then makes the label mean nothing.
00:33:40.000That word has been overused, and one has to be very careful.
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00:33:53.000And at our gala, December 3rd, we're going to have tremendous speakers there talking about all of this.
00:33:58.000But I don't want Joe Biden to not be mentioned in this conversation.
00:34:03.000He is an enormous factor in this extraordinary massacre, rape, torture, and murder of 1,400 Jews.
00:34:12.000Joe Biden, six weeks ago, gave Iran, who funds Hamas and Hezbollah, $6 billion.
00:34:20.000Last week, in the midst of all this, he just gave Iran another $10 billion.
00:34:27.000Iran, which was on its knees under Trump, which had only $4 billion in reserves in the bank, because Biden not only gave these funds to Iran, but also has ignored all of the sanctions in Iran, which stopped Iran from selling oil all over the world.
00:34:45.000Now they sell oil all over the world because of the Biden-Obama administration.
00:34:50.000And now their reserves have gone from $4 billion to $70 billion, giving them an enormous amount of money to fund Hamas, Hezbollah, and all sorts of enemies of America as well as Israel.
00:35:01.000So Biden is guilty of being a significant factor in this happening.
00:35:09.000I can tell you, if Donald Trump was president, he would have continued the sanctions.
00:35:14.000Iran would be on the verge of bankruptcy.
00:35:57.000We need more people speaking out against this.
00:36:00.000In closing here, Mort, I was surprised to see Danny Dinon, who I've met a couple of times, write a piece in the Wall Street Journal, say that we as Americans in the West have a moral obligation to take the people of Gaza.
00:36:11.000What is your reaction to that op-ed from the Wall Street Journal?
00:36:40.000Now Hayas overwhelmingly brings only Muslims to America, people who hate Jews.
00:36:47.000Many of the people Hayas has brought to America, these Muslims are involved in Students for Justice in Palestine and all of these rallies on campuses against Jews and against the Jewish state.
00:36:56.000So what Danny Danone wrote was a terrible mistake.
00:36:59.000We should not be bringing over people who hate Jews or anyone to America.
00:37:04.000And I can assure you, those Muslims from Gaza not only hate Jews, they hate America.
00:37:13.000We don't want anti-Americans coming to America.
00:37:15.000Danny Danone made a terrible mistake, and I'm going to be calling him and telling him so.
00:37:19.000Mort Klein, thank you for joining the program and thank you for defending Western values even when it is difficult.
00:37:25.000And I want to make sure one of the things that makes me the most upset is the moral equivocation between Hamas and Israel.