The Charlie Kirk Show - What Makes House Republicans Turn Traitor?

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, Will Scharf and Kurt Schlichter join the program today to talk about the latest bond judgment.

00:00:06.000 When we did this conversation, it was $400 million.

00:00:08.000 Now it's $175 million.

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00:01:16.000 Joining us now is Will Scharf, who is amazing.

00:01:20.000 And Will is on Donald Trump's legal team, and I'm glad he is.

00:01:24.000 Will, thank you for taking the time.

00:01:27.000 Your former federal prosecutor, your candidate for the Missouri Attorney General.

00:01:31.000 This is an extraordinary day.

00:01:33.000 Walk us through all the details here.

00:01:35.000 This is just a bond payment of $450 million.

00:01:39.000 Will, walk us through it.

00:01:40.000 That's right, Charlie.

00:01:41.000 So as your listeners probably know, your viewers probably know, Attorney General Letitia James, far-left Attorney General in New York, brought this civil fraud action against President Trump, despite the fact that no party was defrauded.

00:01:57.000 The banks testified in our favor, et cetera, et cetera.

00:02:00.000 That resulted in a multi-hundred million dollar judgment.

00:02:04.000 We're now seeking to appeal that judgment on numerous constitutional, procedural, and substantive grounds.

00:02:11.000 We believe our grounds for appeal are extraordinarily strong.

00:02:15.000 However, in order to bring that appeal, we're being required as of now to post a $450 million appeal bond.

00:02:24.000 This is an appeal bond far larger than any private party, you know, a non-major public corporation has ever been required to post in New York history.

00:02:34.000 41 other states cap appeal bonds to avoid exactly this sort of situation.

00:02:40.000 We've asked the New York appellate courts to intervene, either to reduce the amount of the bond that we would have to put up or to eliminate it entirely while we appeal this case.

00:02:52.000 We're waiting on word from the New York Appellate Division now, and we're hopeful that they'll do the right thing here.

00:02:58.000 But in the meantime, we're in this crazy situation where Attorney General James is going around and threatening to seize buildings and assets and bank accounts, all because she doesn't want us to have the ability to appeal this absurd, illegal, unconstitutional judgment that she rammed through against President Trump in New York court.

00:03:20.000 This is the largest bond in history, Will, for an offense with no victim.

00:03:27.000 And I just, I can't understand, Will, the enormity of this.

00:03:33.000 And so just understand, you have to post the bond just to get to appeal.

00:03:38.000 Is that correct?

00:03:39.000 That's right.

00:03:40.000 In order to be able to appeal, in order to stay execution of the judgment, as of now, we're being required to post a $450 million bond.

00:03:50.000 As you said, this is totally unprecedented.

00:03:53.000 Sometimes with major public corporations, you know, multi-multi, multi-billion dollar public corporations, you see bonds of this size with large judgments.

00:04:04.000 But certainly for a private individual, a company the size of the Trump organization, this is wildly unprecedented.

00:04:10.000 It's never happened before.

00:04:13.000 And it really just speaks to the absurdity of this whole situation.

00:04:16.000 President Trump has said repeatedly that this is really, in his mind, about election interference.

00:04:22.000 It's about depriving him of the assets that he might otherwise spend to get himself reelected as president, as is his constitutional right.

00:04:31.000 So this is just an outrageous case in so many ways.

00:04:34.000 And I believe at this point, the procedural pain is the point that Attorney General James wants to interfere with President Trump's ability to run his businesses, to run for president, to do everything that he ordinarily does.

00:04:49.000 And that's why they've been so unreasonable at every stage as we prepare to appeal this case.

00:04:56.000 So I want to, so Letitia James is likely to wait for ruling from appeals. 0.99

00:05:01.000 I mean, is it conceivable they start seizing assets in the next couple of days if Trump doesn't post this?

00:05:06.000 And it has to be cash.

00:05:08.000 He can't put up other assets.

00:05:11.000 Under New York law, typically you can't put up real estate.

00:05:15.000 We have an appeal before the New York Appellate Division right now.

00:05:18.000 We could hear from them any day.

00:05:21.000 Obviously, if she starts going after assets, we would have other potential legal challenges to those enforcement actions, to that specific process.

00:05:30.000 So we're fighting on all fronts.

00:05:32.000 We're going to continue fighting on all fronts in the days ahead.

00:05:35.000 But I am at least hopeful that the New York appellate courts, either the appellate division or the New York Court of Appeals, the highest court in New York, may intervene here just because of how absurd this whole situation is.

00:05:47.000 And the ramifications of it are just extraordinary.

00:05:51.000 So then also fill us in, Will, on the Alvin Bragg situation.

00:05:56.000 Donald Trump is in New York for two things.

00:05:59.000 Walk us through it.

00:06:00.000 So the Alvin Bragg case, Alvin Bragg is the left-wing Soros-funded New York DA.

00:06:07.000 He brought a business records case against President Trump, alleging that payments that President Trump made to his attorney that were booked as legal payments were improperly recorded because they actually related to election-related activities.

00:06:25.000 This is a case that the Biden Department of Justice itself passed on bringing.

00:06:31.000 Bragg rammed it through a New York grand jury, and President Trump is likely going to have to stand trial on it at some point.

00:06:39.000 That having been said, the entire case is reliant on the testimony of Michael Cohen, who's been found to be a perjurer numerous times by a number of different courts.

00:06:49.000 This is a guy who's such an uncredible witness that no honest prosecutor would ever bring a case that relies on his testimony.

00:06:57.000 No honest prosecutor would put him up as a witness.

00:07:00.000 Just as an officer of the court, you have an obligation to ensure that the testimony you're presenting, the evidence you're presenting is honest.

00:07:07.000 I don't think you can plausibly do that when Michael Cohen is your witness.

00:07:11.000 All that having been said, what we discovered a couple weeks ago is that Bragg's office had failed to turn over tens of thousands of pages of documents from the Biden DOJ, other relevant documents that we were entitled to receive.

00:07:25.000 So this case, which was actually supposed to go to trial today, has been delayed indefinitely.

00:07:31.000 And we've sought to push the trial date back while we continue to uncover just how outrageous these discovery violations have been.

00:07:42.000 The different layers of this are hard for people to keep track of and to pinpoint.

00:07:47.000 Is there any universe?

00:07:48.000 I know that you're not able to say anything that is under privilege, but where President Trump decides not to pay the bond, but does that effectively end any appeal process?

00:08:00.000 They're holding the appellate process based on the ability to put up $500 million cash.

00:08:05.000 Well, we can proceed with the appeal, but in the meantime, Attorney General James would be able to go after assets, potentially sell real estate.

00:08:15.000 Remember, the Trump organization directly and indirectly employs thousands and thousands and thousands of people.

00:08:22.000 What Attorney General James is doing is essentially she's interfering with the continuity, the continuation of ordinary business activities and is attacking President Trump's ability to use his assets, to dispose of his assets, potentially to support his campaign for president.

00:08:41.000 It's all pretty absurd.

00:08:43.000 So we're going to appeal.

00:08:45.000 We're definitely going to appeal this judgment.

00:08:47.000 We're going to take it all the way up to the U.S. Supreme Court if necessary.

00:08:51.000 But in the meantime, the amount of interference that the potential attachment of assets, the potential fire sale of assets, I mean, it's just, it's an absurd situation that we're going to do everything we can to fight.

00:09:03.000 Tell our audience about your candidacy for the Missouri Attorney General.

00:09:07.000 Look, you know, we've been all over the state of Missouri.

00:09:09.000 Missouri conservatives are as fired up now as ever before.

00:09:13.000 They're just done with these sort of establishment Republicans who talk a good game on the campaign stump, but then don't get it done.

00:09:19.000 Missouri is a deep red state.

00:09:21.000 We deserve deeply conservative government, and we just haven't been getting that.

00:09:26.000 So our grassroots people are fired up.

00:09:28.000 We think we're going to have a great summer and a great November next year.

00:09:32.000 I'm excited to hopefully be on the ballot alongside President Trump as we take back America.

00:09:38.000 What date is your primary, Will?

00:09:39.000 It's going to be August 6th, Charlie.

00:09:41.000 Wow, that's a late primary.

00:09:42.000 So you got a lot of time from now till there.

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00:10:52.000 Will, I want to play around with this.

00:10:55.000 Potentially, is there a Supreme Court case that could be, or just some challenge in a federal court, absent all the New York corruption on Eighth Amendment grounds?

00:11:03.000 Play cut eight.

00:11:05.000 Everybody understand this is just so he can appeal.

00:11:07.000 If he doesn't come up with a half a billion dollars in cash, he can't appeal the case, which on Eighth Amendment grounds of the Constitution is an excessive fine by anyone's analysis.

00:11:19.000 So, Will, is there a potential challenge here?

00:11:22.000 And who would hear it?

00:11:23.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:11:25.000 So, the Supreme Court said in a case called Tim's that the excessive fines clause of the Eighth Amendment applies to state criminal prosecutions, state actions like this one.

00:11:36.000 That would be our highest court of appeal here.

00:11:39.000 We believe there are strong constitutional grounds, Eighth Amendment and otherwise, why this judgment was unconstitutional and illegal.

00:11:48.000 We're certainly going to pursue all options there.

00:11:51.000 But again, we've got to get around this issue of the bond, and we've got to take this up step by step by step and just keep fighting at every opportunity.

00:12:00.000 It has to be a cruel and unusual punishment.

00:12:02.000 It has to be.

00:12:03.000 Let's play another piece of tape here.

00:12:06.000 Let's play cut 16.

00:12:07.000 Prosecutors have a lot of authority and a lot of power, but you don't always have to use it at its fullest in every case, in every instance, just because you can.

00:12:18.000 And so if I were the attorney general here, I'd like to hear what the appellate court has to say about the amount of the bond and whether they're going to reduce it.

00:12:26.000 Because you can always move against the assets on Tuesday or Thursday or Monday of next week.

00:12:32.000 So this whole idea of seizing the assets is dependent on whether or not this bond thing comes through.

00:12:40.000 Will they only go after New York properties?

00:12:43.000 Is there jurisdiction only in the state of New York?

00:12:45.000 Can they go to another state and seize properties?

00:12:48.000 They can.

00:12:49.000 They would have to file with that state's court to essentially register the judgment in that state and proceed on that basis.

00:12:58.000 But it brings up a big, that clip you just played brings up a bigger point about prosecutorial discretion.

00:13:04.000 Prosecutors do have a ton of power in this country.

00:13:07.000 And as a former prosecutor, I can tell you that we're trained to use that power wisely, to attempt to do justice and not just run roughshod over people's rights because we can.

00:13:19.000 That's the opposite of what we've seen in all these cases against President Trump, where we've seen an unprecedented weaponization of prosecutorial power of the courts to oppress President Trump, I believe, purely because he decided to run for president again.

00:13:36.000 This is election interference.

00:13:38.000 This is an attempt to weapon.

00:13:39.000 It's an attempt to weaponize our courts to interfere with President Trump's constitutional right to run for president and all of our constitutional rights to pick a candidate of our choice on the ballot next November.

00:13:51.000 That's what's so outrageous about these legal abuses.

00:13:54.000 So I want to, you perfect segue, Will.

00:13:57.000 This is Rachel Maddow back in June of last year, but she said it perfectly.

00:14:02.000 You have to wonder, if Trump stops running for office, maybe all this will disappear.

00:14:07.000 Play cut 19.

00:14:08.000 You have to wonder if the Justice Department is considering whether there is some political solution to this criminal problem, whether part of the issue here is not just that Trump has committed crimes, but that Trump has committed crimes and plans on being back in the White House.

00:14:25.000 Do they consider as part of a potential plea offer something that would prescribe him, proscribe him from running for office again?

00:14:33.000 I don't know.

00:14:34.000 You hear this, Will?

00:14:35.000 And again, Rachel Maddow obviously is on group chats with DOJ prosecutors. 1.00

00:14:39.000 She is tied into the regime very closely.

00:14:43.000 Here's Rachel Maddow saying, oh, you have to wonder, is there a political solution to this?

00:14:47.000 Go away, Trump.

00:14:48.000 And all of a sudden, you can keep your stuff.

00:14:51.000 Look at every opportunity.

00:14:52.000 Jack Smith, the special counsel and his team have attempted to force the Florida and D.C. cases to trial as quickly as humanly possible against typical DOJ policy, against the way cases of this complexity would ever be handled in another instance.

00:15:10.000 And they've said in court pleadings again and again that they believe there is a public interest in President Trump sitting for trial before the election.

00:15:20.000 They've kind of admitted the quiet part out loud that they view these cases as an adjunct to the political process.

00:15:26.000 Now, prosecutions are never supposed to be political.

00:15:29.000 According to binding DOJ regulations, they're also never even supposed to appear political.

00:15:35.000 We've seen that totally turned on its head here in this rush to judgment, in this rush to get Trump at all costs.

00:15:42.000 And what Rachel Maddow said there, I mean, it's just despicable.

00:15:45.000 The idea that you would indict a guy, you would threaten to throw him in prison for the rest of his life, threaten to take away every dollar he's made over a long and storied business career for essentially political reasons.

00:15:56.000 It's un-American.

00:15:57.000 It's unconstitutional.

00:15:59.000 And it has to stop.

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00:17:04.000 Joining us now is Kurt Schlichter, who is the author of The Attack.

00:17:11.000 So we now have some breaking news.

00:17:14.000 Actually, Trump bond reduced to $175 million at the 11th hour.

00:17:19.000 So that is just some breaking news I want to make sure I share with you guys with a partial stay.

00:17:26.000 Kurt, welcome to the program, author of The Attack.

00:17:28.000 Everyone should check it out.

00:17:29.000 Kurt, what do you think of what is happening with Donald Trump's assets and the attempt to seize them in the state of New York?

00:17:36.000 I think the whole thing is a, I'm going to keep it FCC compliant, please.

00:17:40.000 It's the blanking disgrace.

00:17:43.000 You know, I'm sitting here and I'm literally practicing law when I'm not talking to you.

00:17:49.000 And what I see happening to Donald Trump bears no relation to the kind of law I practice and that every other lawyer in America has practiced for 30 years.

00:18:00.000 You know, I go to the Ninth Circuit, I go to federal courts, I go to state courts, wherever.

00:18:05.000 And stuff like this doesn't happen.

00:18:08.000 This is a scam.

00:18:09.000 It's a sham.

00:18:11.000 He's being framed.

00:18:12.000 He's being lied about.

00:18:13.000 He's being the target of vindictive prosecution.

00:18:16.000 You know, the idea that someone would run for attorney general on the promise that I'm going to find a crime is so deeply and all-encompassingly un-American. 0.92

00:18:29.000 It's just disgusting to see our garbage ruling class elite embracing this idea and somehow thinking this doesn't change things, thinking this isn't going to become standard procedure. 0.73

00:18:42.000 You know, you throw away the norms, you throw away the guardrails, and you're in Thomas Moore territory. 0.97

00:18:48.000 You remember that great soliloquy or monologue he has in Man for All Season?

00:18:53.000 Oh, yeah.

00:18:54.000 Where he says, yes, I give the devil the benefit of the law because once you've cut down every tree to get to the devil and the devil turns around, where are you going to hide?

00:19:04.000 That's also a great segue because Thomas Mo came up with the word utopia or used it extensively, which means nowhere. 0.98

00:19:14.000 These people, I think, believe New York will become utopia as long as we exterminate the Trump vermin. 0.97

00:19:22.000 I actually believe they have this core sense that Donald Trump is a tumor, Donald Trump is a cancer, and I will be a happier person if We get him out of the state of New York. 0.99

00:19:35.000 Your thoughts, Kurt Schlichter. 0.96

00:19:37.000 Look, I've never thought that they hated Donald Trump.

00:19:40.000 In fact, they liked Donald Trump.

00:19:42.000 They invited him to his weddings and parties and loved to be on his TV shows and interview him.

00:19:47.000 They hate the people that Donald Trump decided to represent. 1.00

00:19:51.000 Donald Trump, yes, Donald Trump is a class traitor. 0.94

00:19:55.000 And, you know, it's very hard for me, who, a guy who just despises Marxism and loves what America is supposed to be, and actually, you know, did a small part defending it to see my country really being shown to have a very clear class system. 0.98

00:20:17.000 And there is a ruling class and there is everybody else.

00:20:21.000 And that's becoming very, very obvious.

00:20:25.000 And for a long time, the Democrats were able to come across as, you know, we're the party of the little guy.

00:20:33.000 That is stopped.

00:20:34.000 That is the little guy is now the bad guy. 0.97

00:20:37.000 That's the yeoman farmer who was the backbone of America is now the white role enraged terrorist. 0.91

00:20:51.000 It's bizarre. 0.86

00:20:52.000 It's disconcerting.

00:20:54.000 And I think it's very, very dangerous for our country.

00:20:58.000 And so the only way to stop this is to win.

00:21:02.000 Am I oversimplifying that, Kurt?

00:21:04.000 Because I got no.

00:21:06.000 Yeah, please go.

00:21:08.000 The only way through is to fight through.

00:21:10.000 I mean, you know, the tactic when you're ambushed in the army is you turn around and you fight through the ambush.

00:21:17.000 We've got to fight.

00:21:18.000 And the idea that, you know, I think some alleged conservatives, alleged Republicans, think there's some sort of referee out there who's going to come in and make everything right because what's happening is so vaguely smart.

00:21:32.000 You know, can I interrupt you, Kurt?

00:21:34.000 All the time, people, you know, I raise money.

00:21:36.000 You know, we have to raise a ton of money at turning point.

00:21:38.000 And every so often, I'd say one out of 100 people say, but Charlie, America is going to come to its senses and someone's going to intervene and set this right.

00:21:47.000 There is this idea of this kind of moral referee that just kind of comes in and calms everything down.

00:21:57.000 Yeah, but we're the referee, American citizens.

00:22:01.000 You know, it's always weird to me how some people want to live in this childlike world where you can run the teacher and she's going to make it all okay.

00:22:11.000 That's not how the world is.

00:22:12.000 It's certainly not how our country is.

00:22:14.000 It's not how our country was designed.

00:22:16.000 Because if you have a, look, if you have somebody who can be a referee, that person's your boss.

00:22:23.000 Here's my chain of command: God, me, the American citizen, government officials, blunkies, and everybody else.

00:22:31.000 They're down there somewhere.

00:22:33.000 There is a chain of command.

00:22:35.000 They're not in it.

00:22:36.000 The American citizen is sovereign, but also has an obligation to protect himself and to protect his constitution.

00:22:47.000 And that's what we've got to do at the ballot box.

00:22:50.000 And that's what we're doing.

00:22:51.000 You guys are doing a great job getting out there, trying to energize voters.

00:22:56.000 That's the message.

00:22:57.000 Nobody's going to save you.

00:22:58.000 You've got to save yourself.

00:23:00.000 And that's true in everything.

00:23:02.000 I wrote an article at Town Hall today about the terrorist threat, the same way I wrote about in my book, The Attack.

00:23:08.000 And I said, Look, nobody's coming to protect you. 1.00

00:23:11.000 When you're in a music hall and some idiots show up and start shooting people, the cavalry is not going to come. 1.00

00:23:22.000 Not in any timeframe that's going to save you. 1.00

00:23:24.000 You better be prepared to save yourself.

00:23:27.000 You better be ready to fight back if you can.

00:23:29.000 Better be ready to stop the bleeding on a fellow citizen who gets shot.

00:23:34.000 You've got to take charge.

00:23:36.000 Democracy, I mean, we're a Democrat, a republic with Democratic principles, but it's citizen, you know, it's a participation sport.

00:23:45.000 Okay.

00:23:45.000 It's not a spectator sport.

00:23:47.000 And if you're sitting out, you're going to lose.

00:23:50.000 That is why we've got to fight.

00:23:52.000 And we've got to exercise our rights and our power.

00:23:57.000 And, you know, you look at the Republicans, and of course, a lot of them are afraid to do that.

00:24:02.000 They somehow think it's wrong to stand up for our values.

00:24:06.000 I don't get it.

00:24:07.000 So the Kurt, I want to have you riff in a way that only Kurt Schlichter can at this at this.

00:24:15.000 I was going to use the word bizarre, but it doesn't capture it perfectly.

00:24:21.000 Of these Republicans resigning midterm.

00:24:26.000 What is going on here, Kurt?

00:24:27.000 Seriously, I just.

00:24:28.000 I don't know.

00:24:30.000 And I know Mike Gallagher a little, for instance, and I like Mike Gallagher.

00:24:34.000 I think he's a talented guy.

00:24:36.000 I don't understand why he would wait five days and keep that seat open.

00:24:42.000 My guess is, because I know Mike Gallagher and I believe he's got a lot of integrity, even though I don't agree with him on everything.

00:24:51.000 I think he probably just made a mistake and we'll see him retire.

00:24:55.000 Kurt, I love you, man.

00:24:56.000 How can you say he has integrity?

00:24:58.000 Sell it to me because it looks like this guy's a weasel that's trying to make Keen Jeffries the gavel.

00:25:04.000 What am I missing?

00:25:07.000 There are, look, we've got to see what the actual people make mistakes.

00:25:12.000 The test of character is when you correct them.

00:25:14.000 If he comes back and says, hey, hey, hey, I'm out of there a week earlier.

00:25:18.000 So we don't leave this seat vacant.

00:25:20.000 Then it's like, oh, okay.

00:25:21.000 He made a mistake.

00:25:22.000 But why even resign, though?

00:25:25.000 I don't understand.

00:25:26.000 Where does this come from?

00:25:28.000 I don't know either.

00:25:30.000 And there may be family issues.

00:25:31.000 There may be other personal issues.

00:25:34.000 I don't know.

00:25:35.000 And it may be a good reason.

00:25:36.000 It may be a bad reason.

00:25:39.000 I know the guy he gets the benefit of the doubt.

00:25:41.000 Ken Buck does not get the benefit of the doubt because his proven track record of failure.

00:25:48.000 You know, we have to take each case individually.

00:25:52.000 I don't need to look for problems with Republicans.

00:25:56.000 They're there already.

00:25:58.000 Okay.

00:26:00.000 But I am optimistic.

00:26:02.000 I think we are going to, we are slowly moving forward.

00:26:05.000 Ronna McDaniel's gone.

00:26:07.000 She's MSNBC's problem. 1.00

00:26:08.000 We're going to get to that.

00:26:09.000 We're going to get to that.

00:26:10.000 I just, and Kurt, we could dialogue privately.

00:26:12.000 We don't need to do this on air, but I just want to, here's my take.

00:26:15.000 I had no ill feelings towards Gallagher until he voted against the impeachment of the Orcas and he resigns midterm.

00:26:21.000 I think he's being blackmailed by the administrative state.

00:26:24.000 That's just me.

00:26:25.000 We could talk privately.

00:26:26.000 We don't need to do this on air.

00:26:28.000 Okay.

00:26:29.000 So now we got to get to Rana.

00:26:31.000 And Kurt, you know, I take everything you say super seriously and we don't agree on everything, but you're the best.

00:26:36.000 Rana.

00:26:37.000 So who actually likes Rana?

00:26:39.000 She's hated by MSNBC. 1.00

00:26:41.000 She's hated by NBC. 0.85

00:26:42.000 Riff on this and we'll play it after the break.

00:26:46.000 Wow, Rana McDaniel.

00:26:48.000 It is just so perfect that she would go to MSNBC as a commentator.

00:26:54.000 Although her job was never commenting.

00:26:57.000 Her job was not to be a pundit.

00:26:59.000 Her job was to be an administrator and she was a terrible one. 0.99

00:27:01.000 I mean, she was awful.

00:27:02.000 She's left the Republican National Committee in terrible shape.

00:27:06.000 I'm hoping that Watley and Lara Trump can fix it up.

00:27:11.000 Maybe, maybe, maybe they can.

00:27:11.000 Who knows?

00:27:13.000 I hope.

00:27:14.000 But I just think it's so delicious she goes to NBC.

00:27:18.000 And the people at NBC, the same one who hired Jen Stocky while she was still working as a Spokesman for the Biden regime goes completely insane.

00:27:30.000 Well, we can't have a Republican here who's actually a Republican.

00:27:34.000 Well, you know, I think we're going to see her Michael steal herself into an acceptability among these people.

00:27:45.000 Mark my words.

00:27:47.000 We finally found something that can unite this country.

00:27:51.000 Disdain for Ronald.

00:27:52.000 Everyone hates Ronald.

00:27:53.000 Ronna McRomney. 0.96

00:27:54.000 Yeah, she's the worst. 0.89

00:27:57.000 It's just awful. 0.97

00:27:58.000 Good morning.

00:27:59.000 Joe is erupting about it.

00:28:01.000 You know, when you have anti-Rana pieces on MSNBC and Gateway Pundit, you got something going there.

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00:28:50.000 Kurt, tell us more about your book, please.

00:28:53.000 The attack is a novel, and I could have written it as nonfiction, but I wanted to do fiction because I wanted to punch people in the gut with the danger that we face from terrorists thanks to our open border and our asleep at the wheel, federal law enforcement, federal government.

00:29:11.000 I mean, look, if you happen to be doing something like taking selfies at the rotunda or praying outside an abortion mill, the FBI is all over you.

00:29:21.000 However, if you're, oh, I don't know, a military age male from a country full of people who hate us, you got a free pass. 0.97

00:29:30.000 Well, at least you did.

00:29:31.000 I mean, even Chris Ray, Charlie, Chris Ray is saying, hey, wait a minute, you know, maybe having millions of these guys come in here could be a problem.

00:29:42.000 It's more than a problem.

00:29:43.000 It is a deadly threat.

00:29:44.000 And I read about today at Town Hall.

00:29:46.000 I read about in the attack.

00:29:48.000 We saw what happened at Moscow.

00:29:50.000 Barely trained suicidal guys with very simple weapons can cause mass casualties.

00:29:59.000 Multiply that by hundreds. 1.00

00:30:01.000 I use the example of those idiots in Boston. 1.00

00:30:04.000 Two guys with handguns and some pressure cookers literally shut down an entire city. 1.00

00:30:09.000 Well, we've let five, 10, 12 million people into our country, Charlie. 0.86

00:30:16.000 And some of them are bad people.

00:30:20.000 The enemy could come up with 1,000, 2,000, even more.

00:30:24.000 And all they have to do is strike.

00:30:25.000 I'm very, very concerned.

00:30:27.000 The military intelligence and counterterrorism people I have talked to in researching the attack are very, very concerned.

00:30:37.000 You need to be ready to act.

00:30:38.000 If you can conceal carry, you should.

00:30:41.000 I live in a blue state, which would probably be a target because you're less likely to get shot if you're one of these bad guys.

00:30:50.000 And understand that an individual with a weapon is decisive in these situations.

00:30:56.000 Because even if you have five guys with superior firepower, you have one citizen who's armed, that guy takes them off the rails.

00:31:04.000 Suddenly, they have to reorient to take out that threat.

00:31:08.000 Well, normal citizens can get away while the police can build up combat power.

00:31:13.000 An armed citizen is not just shooting them.

00:31:16.000 An armed citizen is occupying them and drawing fire.

00:31:20.000 And we need to be ready to do that.

00:31:22.000 Like I said, being a citizen is participatory.

00:31:26.000 And part being a citizen is defending the citizen.

00:31:30.000 So, Kurt, just some breaking news here.

00:31:31.000 The UN has just approved a ceasefire in Gaza, and the U.S. has abstained.

00:31:37.000 Your reaction here.

00:31:40.000 That's the most morally bankrupt thing I've ever heard.

00:31:43.000 I mean, you know, we're just talking about terrorists. 1.00

00:31:46.000 The answer to terrorism is to kill terrorists. 0.99

00:31:49.000 And that's what the Israelis are doing. 1.00

00:31:51.000 And we should be helping them do it. 0.99

00:31:53.000 Hamas needs to be annihilated. 0.99

00:31:56.000 Okay. 1.00

00:31:57.000 There are two lessons that can be drawn. 1.00

00:31:59.000 Either you can go on a rape and murder spree and kill over a thousand people and either survive or die. 1.00

00:32:09.000 I prefer we establish the people who do that die. 1.00

00:32:12.000 Then we will have fewer of them do it.

00:32:15.000 But, you know, this Biden administration is going to, it is doing everything it can to make sure Israel loses this war.

00:32:22.000 And Israel needs to win this war, not just for Israel, but for all of us.

00:32:26.000 Hamas must be stopped. 0.99

00:32:28.000 They're a bunch of monsters. 0.99

00:32:30.000 Final thought here, Kurt. 0.97

00:32:32.000 Your analysis, Trump v. Biden v. RFK.

00:32:36.000 What are you looking at that you don't think people are covering enough concerns you have?

00:32:40.000 Adjustments that need to be made politically?

00:32:41.000 I'm very concerned about, first of all, for a long time, I thought there was no way Trump was going to win.

00:32:47.000 There are far too many people who unreasonably hate him.

00:32:50.000 The evidence has changed.

00:32:52.000 He is now ahead.

00:32:53.000 I think that's clear.

00:32:55.000 But being ahead in polls, Charlie, is, as you well know, only half of it.

00:33:00.000 We have got to get votes counted.

00:33:03.000 That is all that matters.

00:33:04.000 Votes counted are all that matters.

00:33:07.000 Not rallies, not tweets, not memes.

00:33:11.000 Votes counted.

00:33:12.000 We need to vote early.

00:33:14.000 We need to vote by mail where possible.

00:33:16.000 We need to bank votes.

00:33:18.000 We need to do it right.

00:33:20.000 I know you guys are doing a great job mobilizing people to get out there and vote.

00:33:25.000 But if we don't get votes counted, we lose.

00:33:30.000 That is the entire struggle.

00:33:32.000 Kurt, great work.

00:33:33.000 Thank you so much.

00:33:34.000 Appreciate it.

00:33:34.000 Thank you.

00:33:35.000 Thank you for having me.

00:33:39.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:33:40.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:33:43.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - March 25, 2024

What Makes House Republicans Turn Traitor?

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