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00:01:41.000So as your listeners probably know, your viewers probably know, Attorney General Letitia James, far-left Attorney General in New York, brought this civil fraud action against President Trump, despite the fact that no party was defrauded.
00:01:57.000The banks testified in our favor, et cetera, et cetera.
00:02:00.000That resulted in a multi-hundred million dollar judgment.
00:02:04.000We're now seeking to appeal that judgment on numerous constitutional, procedural, and substantive grounds.
00:02:11.000We believe our grounds for appeal are extraordinarily strong.
00:02:15.000However, in order to bring that appeal, we're being required as of now to post a $450 million appeal bond.
00:02:24.000This is an appeal bond far larger than any private party, you know, a non-major public corporation has ever been required to post in New York history.
00:02:34.00041 other states cap appeal bonds to avoid exactly this sort of situation.
00:02:40.000We've asked the New York appellate courts to intervene, either to reduce the amount of the bond that we would have to put up or to eliminate it entirely while we appeal this case.
00:02:52.000We're waiting on word from the New York Appellate Division now, and we're hopeful that they'll do the right thing here.
00:02:58.000But in the meantime, we're in this crazy situation where Attorney General James is going around and threatening to seize buildings and assets and bank accounts, all because she doesn't want us to have the ability to appeal this absurd, illegal, unconstitutional judgment that she rammed through against President Trump in New York court.
00:03:20.000This is the largest bond in history, Will, for an offense with no victim.
00:03:27.000And I just, I can't understand, Will, the enormity of this.
00:03:33.000And so just understand, you have to post the bond just to get to appeal.
00:03:40.000In order to be able to appeal, in order to stay execution of the judgment, as of now, we're being required to post a $450 million bond.
00:03:50.000As you said, this is totally unprecedented.
00:03:53.000Sometimes with major public corporations, you know, multi-multi, multi-billion dollar public corporations, you see bonds of this size with large judgments.
00:04:04.000But certainly for a private individual, a company the size of the Trump organization, this is wildly unprecedented.
00:04:13.000And it really just speaks to the absurdity of this whole situation.
00:04:16.000President Trump has said repeatedly that this is really, in his mind, about election interference.
00:04:22.000It's about depriving him of the assets that he might otherwise spend to get himself reelected as president, as is his constitutional right.
00:04:31.000So this is just an outrageous case in so many ways.
00:04:34.000And I believe at this point, the procedural pain is the point that Attorney General James wants to interfere with President Trump's ability to run his businesses, to run for president, to do everything that he ordinarily does.
00:04:49.000And that's why they've been so unreasonable at every stage as we prepare to appeal this case.
00:04:56.000So I want to, so Letitia James is likely to wait for ruling from appeals.
00:05:01.000I mean, is it conceivable they start seizing assets in the next couple of days if Trump doesn't post this?
00:05:21.000Obviously, if she starts going after assets, we would have other potential legal challenges to those enforcement actions, to that specific process.
00:05:32.000We're going to continue fighting on all fronts in the days ahead.
00:05:35.000But I am at least hopeful that the New York appellate courts, either the appellate division or the New York Court of Appeals, the highest court in New York, may intervene here just because of how absurd this whole situation is.
00:05:47.000And the ramifications of it are just extraordinary.
00:05:51.000So then also fill us in, Will, on the Alvin Bragg situation.
00:05:56.000Donald Trump is in New York for two things.
00:06:00.000So the Alvin Bragg case, Alvin Bragg is the left-wing Soros-funded New York DA.
00:06:07.000He brought a business records case against President Trump, alleging that payments that President Trump made to his attorney that were booked as legal payments were improperly recorded because they actually related to election-related activities.
00:06:25.000This is a case that the Biden Department of Justice itself passed on bringing.
00:06:31.000Bragg rammed it through a New York grand jury, and President Trump is likely going to have to stand trial on it at some point.
00:06:39.000That having been said, the entire case is reliant on the testimony of Michael Cohen, who's been found to be a perjurer numerous times by a number of different courts.
00:06:49.000This is a guy who's such an uncredible witness that no honest prosecutor would ever bring a case that relies on his testimony.
00:06:57.000No honest prosecutor would put him up as a witness.
00:07:00.000Just as an officer of the court, you have an obligation to ensure that the testimony you're presenting, the evidence you're presenting is honest.
00:07:07.000I don't think you can plausibly do that when Michael Cohen is your witness.
00:07:11.000All that having been said, what we discovered a couple weeks ago is that Bragg's office had failed to turn over tens of thousands of pages of documents from the Biden DOJ, other relevant documents that we were entitled to receive.
00:07:25.000So this case, which was actually supposed to go to trial today, has been delayed indefinitely.
00:07:31.000And we've sought to push the trial date back while we continue to uncover just how outrageous these discovery violations have been.
00:07:42.000The different layers of this are hard for people to keep track of and to pinpoint.
00:07:48.000I know that you're not able to say anything that is under privilege, but where President Trump decides not to pay the bond, but does that effectively end any appeal process?
00:08:00.000They're holding the appellate process based on the ability to put up $500 million cash.
00:08:05.000Well, we can proceed with the appeal, but in the meantime, Attorney General James would be able to go after assets, potentially sell real estate.
00:08:15.000Remember, the Trump organization directly and indirectly employs thousands and thousands and thousands of people.
00:08:22.000What Attorney General James is doing is essentially she's interfering with the continuity, the continuation of ordinary business activities and is attacking President Trump's ability to use his assets, to dispose of his assets, potentially to support his campaign for president.
00:08:45.000We're definitely going to appeal this judgment.
00:08:47.000We're going to take it all the way up to the U.S. Supreme Court if necessary.
00:08:51.000But in the meantime, the amount of interference that the potential attachment of assets, the potential fire sale of assets, I mean, it's just, it's an absurd situation that we're going to do everything we can to fight.
00:09:03.000Tell our audience about your candidacy for the Missouri Attorney General.
00:09:07.000Look, you know, we've been all over the state of Missouri.
00:09:09.000Missouri conservatives are as fired up now as ever before.
00:09:13.000They're just done with these sort of establishment Republicans who talk a good game on the campaign stump, but then don't get it done.
00:09:42.000So you got a lot of time from now till there.
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00:10:52.000Will, I want to play around with this.
00:10:55.000Potentially, is there a Supreme Court case that could be, or just some challenge in a federal court, absent all the New York corruption on Eighth Amendment grounds?
00:11:05.000Everybody understand this is just so he can appeal.
00:11:07.000If he doesn't come up with a half a billion dollars in cash, he can't appeal the case, which on Eighth Amendment grounds of the Constitution is an excessive fine by anyone's analysis.
00:11:19.000So, Will, is there a potential challenge here?
00:11:25.000So, the Supreme Court said in a case called Tim's that the excessive fines clause of the Eighth Amendment applies to state criminal prosecutions, state actions like this one.
00:11:36.000That would be our highest court of appeal here.
00:11:39.000We believe there are strong constitutional grounds, Eighth Amendment and otherwise, why this judgment was unconstitutional and illegal.
00:11:48.000We're certainly going to pursue all options there.
00:11:51.000But again, we've got to get around this issue of the bond, and we've got to take this up step by step by step and just keep fighting at every opportunity.
00:12:00.000It has to be a cruel and unusual punishment.
00:12:07.000Prosecutors have a lot of authority and a lot of power, but you don't always have to use it at its fullest in every case, in every instance, just because you can.
00:12:18.000And so if I were the attorney general here, I'd like to hear what the appellate court has to say about the amount of the bond and whether they're going to reduce it.
00:12:26.000Because you can always move against the assets on Tuesday or Thursday or Monday of next week.
00:12:32.000So this whole idea of seizing the assets is dependent on whether or not this bond thing comes through.
00:12:40.000Will they only go after New York properties?
00:12:43.000Is there jurisdiction only in the state of New York?
00:12:45.000Can they go to another state and seize properties?
00:12:49.000They would have to file with that state's court to essentially register the judgment in that state and proceed on that basis.
00:12:58.000But it brings up a big, that clip you just played brings up a bigger point about prosecutorial discretion.
00:13:04.000Prosecutors do have a ton of power in this country.
00:13:07.000And as a former prosecutor, I can tell you that we're trained to use that power wisely, to attempt to do justice and not just run roughshod over people's rights because we can.
00:13:19.000That's the opposite of what we've seen in all these cases against President Trump, where we've seen an unprecedented weaponization of prosecutorial power of the courts to oppress President Trump, I believe, purely because he decided to run for president again.
00:13:39.000It's an attempt to weaponize our courts to interfere with President Trump's constitutional right to run for president and all of our constitutional rights to pick a candidate of our choice on the ballot next November.
00:13:51.000That's what's so outrageous about these legal abuses.
00:13:54.000So I want to, you perfect segue, Will.
00:13:57.000This is Rachel Maddow back in June of last year, but she said it perfectly.
00:14:02.000You have to wonder, if Trump stops running for office, maybe all this will disappear.
00:14:08.000You have to wonder if the Justice Department is considering whether there is some political solution to this criminal problem, whether part of the issue here is not just that Trump has committed crimes, but that Trump has committed crimes and plans on being back in the White House.
00:14:25.000Do they consider as part of a potential plea offer something that would prescribe him, proscribe him from running for office again?
00:14:52.000Jack Smith, the special counsel and his team have attempted to force the Florida and D.C. cases to trial as quickly as humanly possible against typical DOJ policy, against the way cases of this complexity would ever be handled in another instance.
00:15:10.000And they've said in court pleadings again and again that they believe there is a public interest in President Trump sitting for trial before the election.
00:15:20.000They've kind of admitted the quiet part out loud that they view these cases as an adjunct to the political process.
00:15:26.000Now, prosecutions are never supposed to be political.
00:15:29.000According to binding DOJ regulations, they're also never even supposed to appear political.
00:15:35.000We've seen that totally turned on its head here in this rush to judgment, in this rush to get Trump at all costs.
00:15:42.000And what Rachel Maddow said there, I mean, it's just despicable.
00:15:45.000The idea that you would indict a guy, you would threaten to throw him in prison for the rest of his life, threaten to take away every dollar he's made over a long and storied business career for essentially political reasons.
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00:17:43.000You know, I'm sitting here and I'm literally practicing law when I'm not talking to you.
00:17:49.000And what I see happening to Donald Trump bears no relation to the kind of law I practice and that every other lawyer in America has practiced for 30 years.
00:18:00.000You know, I go to the Ninth Circuit, I go to federal courts, I go to state courts, wherever.
00:18:13.000He's being the target of vindictive prosecution.
00:18:16.000You know, the idea that someone would run for attorney general on the promise that I'm going to find a crime is so deeply and all-encompassingly un-American.
00:18:29.000It's just disgusting to see our garbage ruling class elite embracing this idea and somehow thinking this doesn't change things, thinking this isn't going to become standard procedure.
00:18:42.000You know, you throw away the norms, you throw away the guardrails, and you're in Thomas Moore territory.
00:18:48.000You remember that great soliloquy or monologue he has in Man for All Season?
00:18:54.000Where he says, yes, I give the devil the benefit of the law because once you've cut down every tree to get to the devil and the devil turns around, where are you going to hide?
00:19:04.000That's also a great segue because Thomas Mo came up with the word utopia or used it extensively, which means nowhere.
00:19:14.000These people, I think, believe New York will become utopia as long as we exterminate the Trump vermin.
00:19:22.000I actually believe they have this core sense that Donald Trump is a tumor, Donald Trump is a cancer, and I will be a happier person if We get him out of the state of New York.
00:19:42.000They invited him to his weddings and parties and loved to be on his TV shows and interview him.
00:19:47.000They hate the people that Donald Trump decided to represent.
00:19:51.000Donald Trump, yes, Donald Trump is a class traitor.
00:19:55.000And, you know, it's very hard for me, who, a guy who just despises Marxism and loves what America is supposed to be, and actually, you know, did a small part defending it to see my country really being shown to have a very clear class system.
00:20:17.000And there is a ruling class and there is everybody else.
00:20:21.000And that's becoming very, very obvious.
00:20:25.000And for a long time, the Democrats were able to come across as, you know, we're the party of the little guy.
00:21:18.000And the idea that, you know, I think some alleged conservatives, alleged Republicans, think there's some sort of referee out there who's going to come in and make everything right because what's happening is so vaguely smart.
00:21:34.000All the time, people, you know, I raise money.
00:21:36.000You know, we have to raise a ton of money at turning point.
00:21:38.000And every so often, I'd say one out of 100 people say, but Charlie, America is going to come to its senses and someone's going to intervene and set this right.
00:21:47.000There is this idea of this kind of moral referee that just kind of comes in and calms everything down.
00:21:57.000Yeah, but we're the referee, American citizens.
00:22:01.000You know, it's always weird to me how some people want to live in this childlike world where you can run the teacher and she's going to make it all okay.
00:27:14.000But I just think it's so delicious she goes to NBC.
00:27:18.000And the people at NBC, the same one who hired Jen Stocky while she was still working as a Spokesman for the Biden regime goes completely insane.
00:27:30.000Well, we can't have a Republican here who's actually a Republican.
00:27:34.000Well, you know, I think we're going to see her Michael steal herself into an acceptability among these people.
00:28:01.000You know, when you have anti-Rana pieces on MSNBC and Gateway Pundit, you got something going there.
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00:28:50.000Kurt, tell us more about your book, please.
00:28:53.000The attack is a novel, and I could have written it as nonfiction, but I wanted to do fiction because I wanted to punch people in the gut with the danger that we face from terrorists thanks to our open border and our asleep at the wheel, federal law enforcement, federal government.
00:29:11.000I mean, look, if you happen to be doing something like taking selfies at the rotunda or praying outside an abortion mill, the FBI is all over you.
00:29:21.000However, if you're, oh, I don't know, a military age male from a country full of people who hate us, you got a free pass.
00:29:31.000I mean, even Chris Ray, Charlie, Chris Ray is saying, hey, wait a minute, you know, maybe having millions of these guys come in here could be a problem.