The Charlie Kirk Show - Where Did Western Morality Come From?

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, my conversation at Influence Church with Phil Hottenspiller.

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00:00:24.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:01:23.000 So, Charlie, I'm going to start with a shameless plug for my new book.

00:01:27.000 It doesn't come out till April 2nd, but I have signed this to you, and I will not check on you to see if you've read it, but it's there for your reading pleasure.

00:01:36.000 So, how many of you have watched Charlie on video and/or his podcast, whatever?

00:01:42.000 So, most of you, that's great.

00:01:46.000 We were talking a little bit about what might be kind of an interesting way to start, and I just kind of dropped the name John Money.

00:01:52.000 How many of you have ever heard of John Money?

00:01:54.000 Anybody raised?

00:01:56.000 Yeah, that boo is right, but John Money really, I'm just gonna get this started, and then I'm gonna let Charlie go, and then we'll dialogue as we go.

00:02:06.000 But John Money in 1955 created the term gender.

00:02:12.000 A lot of you think it's been around since Adam and Eve.

00:02:15.000 Okay, what do you think about John Money?

00:02:18.000 What did he bring to the table, Charlie, that you think was really significant that we have to deal with today?

00:02:25.000 Yeah, great to be here, everybody.

00:02:26.000 So many friends that I see, Teresa, and so many great people.

00:02:30.000 Look, John Money was doing the devil's bidding while he was here on earth.

00:02:34.000 He's from New Zealand, so I won't blame Simon too much.

00:02:39.000 Sorry about that, Simon.

00:02:40.000 When we were talking about New Zealand earlier, I was thinking, who's the most evil person?

00:02:44.000 And then that's John Money.

00:02:46.000 He's from New Zealand.

00:02:47.000 So let's just be clear about this.

00:02:49.000 The transgender craze that's all across the West right now and in America is one of the most demonic evil things happening, affecting all ages, particularly children. 1.00

00:02:57.000 It is a defining line of morality, and we have to be on the right side of this, the biblical side, God side of this.

00:03:03.000 The separation between adult and child, the separation between good and evil.

00:03:07.000 And it is one of the hottest topics right now.

00:03:10.000 So there are three categories.

00:03:12.000 There is sex, gender, and personalities.

00:03:15.000 Okay? 0.99

00:03:16.000 There are two sexes. 1.00

00:03:17.000 There are no genders and infinite personalities.

00:03:22.000 That's where you clap.

00:03:24.000 In case you don't know if he was setting you up or not, that's a win.

00:03:27.000 Okay, go.

00:03:28.000 It might not be that kind of church.

00:03:29.000 I guess they're just kind of like...

00:03:30.000 You know, they're learning.

00:03:32.000 I could do the Jeb Bush thing.

00:03:33.000 Please clap, everybody.

00:03:34.000 You know, I could do that.

00:03:35.000 It's fine.

00:03:36.000 I'm giving you a hard time.

00:03:37.000 So let's go through that. 0.99

00:03:39.000 Sex.

00:03:39.000 God created male and female.

00:03:41.000 And so I spent two hours today at Cal State Fullerton.

00:03:45.000 I see some people that were there, and that was, and I, you know, this one young lady, and I don't want to, I'm assuming her sex. 0.98

00:03:52.000 I think she was a young lady. 0.68

00:03:54.000 She says she's a feminist, and I ask her, well, what is a woman? 0.99

00:03:57.000 And she says, that's a trick question.

00:03:59.000 You can't say this.

00:03:59.000 Just so you know, the vast majority of young people on campus, they can't give you just like a blunt answer of what is a woman, right?

00:04:06.000 That is just an example of the poison and the toxin that has infected our education system.

00:04:14.000 So, God created male and female.

00:04:16.000 I asked her, I said, Okay, outside of male and female, what other categories are there in the human species?

00:04:21.000 Like, I'm open for any sort of suggestions.

00:04:23.000 And they can't ever give you an answer.

00:04:25.000 So, what John Money did, and he was inspired by Alfred Kinsey, who is an evil pedophile, awful person who has a statue, by the way, at Indiana University Bloomington.

00:04:36.000 Alfred Kinsey, by the way, is his curriculum is not ostensibly, but is embedded all throughout California public schools, embedded in universities.

00:04:44.000 If you send a kid to college, they're going to learn Kinsey and money type of beliefs.

00:04:48.000 So, John Money, he had one thing he was best known for, besides also basically butchering twins.

00:04:54.000 And I'll get to that in a second.

00:04:55.000 It was one of the most disgusting stories ever.

00:04:57.000 He believed that sex, aka he called it gender, was malleable up until two years.

00:05:04.000 And so, you'll hear anybody that thinks they know what they're talking about on a college campus, they'll be like, oh, well, blue is an assigned color for a boy, and pink is an assigned color for a girl.

00:05:14.000 And, you know, a boy can be a girl, and a girl can be a boy in those first two years.

00:05:18.000 And these are all norms that are basically ascribed to them. 0.96

00:05:22.000 And of course, anyone who's a parent knows this is total rubbish, of course, obviously.

00:05:27.000 You have to go to university. 1.00

00:05:28.000 You have to get a PhD to believe something so stupid as this. 1.00

00:05:32.000 And by the way, it's probably mostly theorized by the childless. 1.00

00:05:36.000 The childless are the ones that are destroying this, are destroying the country. 1.00

00:05:40.000 You could be good without children, but if you're bad, you probably don't have children.

00:05:44.000 That is my rule for the decline of the West.

00:05:47.000 So, John Money, he writes in several academic papers, and it infected all of the academies that we have to create this new category called gender.

00:05:55.000 And we took it, by the way, we being the West, like, oh, yeah, okay.

00:05:58.000 And we always kind of assumed that sex and gender were the same thing.

00:06:02.000 They're completely different.

00:06:04.000 So, they wouldn't say that sex doesn't exist.

00:06:06.000 They would just say, sex is, you know, discovered at birth, and that's fine. 0.98

00:06:10.000 Those are just your genitalia. 0.75

00:06:12.000 But who you really are is your gender.

00:06:14.000 And you discover who you are as you get older.

00:06:17.000 And the way it should be broken down is: wait a second, are you talking about personalities?

00:06:21.000 That's a totally different thing.

00:06:23.000 And what they've done is now it's in our curriculum. 0.57

00:06:26.000 They have these gender-affirming care clinics.

00:06:28.000 And we should reject the premise: regardless of how much surgery pills you take, chopping off your parts, you can never become the other thing.

00:06:36.000 Is that it's how God made you, period.

00:06:39.000 And unfortunately, they're creating a mass crisis here in the West.

00:06:45.000 America is the worst at this right now in the industrialized world.

00:06:49.000 I never thought I would look to Britain for inspiration.

00:06:54.000 This week, Britain has now, the United Kingdom has announced that a total ban on puberty blockers for children.

00:07:01.000 Total ban.

00:07:03.000 And that is following, that is following the Netherlands, that is following Sweden, that is following many other European countries.

00:07:12.000 Again, I'm not a fan of socialized health care, and you shouldn't be either.

00:07:16.000 But the only good thing about socialized health care is if the government makes a good decision, it's done.

00:07:22.000 We have these for-profit gender-affirming care clinics all across the country.

00:07:26.000 I don't want to speak out of turn, but I know there's at least dozens here in California.

00:07:30.000 There's probably even more.

00:07:31.000 And we know there's hundreds across the country.

00:07:34.000 These places are predatory.

00:07:36.000 These doctors should all go to jail for the abuse of children.

00:07:41.000 They are not administering medicine.

00:07:44.000 They are not clinicians.

00:07:45.000 These are groomer predators that manipulate well-intentioned parents.

00:07:51.000 And I can go into this because it's fascinating the more I dive into it.

00:07:55.000 Of actually the type of parent where a kid is most likely to be trans, and it's not what you think it is.

00:08:01.000 And they say the same thing over and over again.

00:08:03.000 They'll say, Do you want a dead son or an alive daughter?

00:08:07.000 Or do you want a dead daughter or an alive son?

00:08:09.000 And it is complete, total manipulation and blackmail.

00:08:12.000 And any parent hears that, like, oh my goodness, give them the drugs.

00:08:14.000 Give them Lupron, right?

00:08:15.000 Give them testosterone replacement therapy. 0.99

00:08:17.000 You know, chop off their breasts, give them a hysterectomy, whatever it takes. 0.98

00:08:21.000 And we now know there have been tens of thousands of youth that have engaged in pharmacological chemical castration. 0.91

00:08:29.000 It's probably north of hundreds of thousands.

00:08:31.000 And that's what's so creepy about this.

00:08:33.000 We don't know the numbers.

00:08:34.000 We don't know the numbers.

00:08:35.000 We have to guess.

00:08:37.000 We're relying on like leaks from the insurance industry, and we're inferring that they will never tell us how many kids are actually doing this.

00:08:45.000 So we know for certain thousands of kids are getting the irreversible breast removal, hysterectomy.

00:08:53.000 And there's other more graphic terms I'm not going to use just because it's not worth it.

00:08:57.000 But we know that is for certain.

00:09:00.000 And then we can't forget also the 18, 19, and 20-year-old that are technically not minors, but their brains are not fully developed.

00:09:06.000 And they go to a college campus and they hear about the idea of sex and gender.

00:09:10.000 And there's doctors on the campus that say, well, your parents never really loved you.

00:09:15.000 Here's Lupron.

00:09:16.000 Or here is testosterone replacement therapy.

00:09:18.000 And I'll throw it back to Phil with this.

00:09:20.000 I kid you not, over winter Christmas break, I had three parents come up to me independently.

00:09:24.000 I was at the grocery store, whatever.

00:09:26.000 And they all said, Charlie, my 19-year-old, this went to the University of Chicago, and they came back.

00:09:31.000 And all of a sudden, they told me that they're actually a boy and raised as a girl.

00:09:34.000 And all these drugs, they say, I don't understand it.

00:09:37.000 What do I do?

00:09:38.000 And that's a very difficult question to answer.

00:09:41.000 And we could dive into that.

00:09:42.000 But this is a social contagion.

00:09:44.000 It's a toxin.

00:09:44.000 I believe it's straight from the pit of hell.

00:09:46.000 And I'll be honest, I'm very, I'm underwhelmed and disappointed at the silence of the American church on this topic. 0.99

00:09:54.000 The American church has been so cowardly. 0.93

00:09:58.000 There's some churches, this one and many others, but this is the easiest win for the church to engage in. 0.96

00:10:05.000 But, you know, unfortunately, we have people like Andy Stanley, who calls himself a pastor, who's a charlatan from Georgia, who has trans witch doctors come to his church and trans people on the podium of his church.

00:10:19.000 So it's a deciding and defining moment for the church.

00:10:22.000 That's who John Money is.

00:10:23.000 Yeah, and let's jump into the comment is demonic.

00:10:27.000 Demonic, yeah, no, demonic sometimes becomes that umbrella phrase of everything that's bad.

00:10:33.000 But let's drill into that a little bit because I'm going to go back to New Zealand.

00:10:37.000 Sorry, Simon.

00:10:38.000 But I'm going to go back to New Zealand for a moment because we just had a pastor here from New Zealand who said it's now illegal to read the first chapter of Romans inside the church.

00:10:50.000 Now think about this, right?

00:10:51.000 And Australia, too.

00:10:52.000 Now, a lot of you say, what's Romans 1?

00:10:53.000 Okay, so reprobate mind.

00:10:55.000 It starts out by saying that evil men suppress the truth in unrighteousness.

00:11:02.000 Okay?

00:11:02.000 First step, you suppress the truth in unrighteousness.

00:11:07.000 Okay?

00:11:08.000 And then you approve of those who do evil.

00:11:11.000 Okay?

00:11:12.000 And as you see this digression that happens in the book of Romans, it comes to a place to where they exchange the glory of God for the glory of man.

00:11:22.000 So now it becomes a humanistic kind of centered world.

00:11:26.000 And so they begin to worship the creature rather than the creator.

00:11:30.000 So what's at stake here, you see, is the image of God.

00:11:33.000 If you're creating the image of God, anything that destroys the image of God is demonic.

00:11:38.000 Period.

00:11:39.000 Okay?

00:11:40.000 So then it finally comes a place, and then it says this: it says that women lusted in their heart for women and men for men, and God gave them over to a base mind.

00:11:51.000 Now, this is really important because have you ever noticed how you can't usually logically dialogue with someone who's already gone down this philosophical path that's so contrary to even right and wrong?

00:12:04.000 It is because their mind stops working the way God created it to work.

00:12:08.000 So with that, I'm going to throw something else at you here since you brought it up.

00:12:13.000 Would you send your son or daughter to a university?

00:12:16.000 No, no, I would not.

00:12:18.000 And I don't plan to.

00:12:19.000 I mean, we have a little girl, and I mean, maybe if she wants to play competitive college sports, maybe.

00:12:25.000 Look, I run a college organization for a living, and I visited more college, I think, than anybody in the last decade in the country.

00:12:32.000 So I speak about this from authority.

00:12:34.000 I wrote a best-selling book called The College Scam, and I encourage you guys to check it out.

00:12:38.000 Read it.

00:12:38.000 All proceeds go to Turning Point USA of the book.

00:12:40.000 And I lay out a 10-count indictment of how college is a racketeering operation.

00:12:45.000 Outside of going to Hillsdale College or Liberty University, I don't see a reason to send your precious loved one to college.

00:12:53.000 And again, we can have disagreement on that.

00:12:55.000 I can go through every single one of the, let's say, talking points that parents have.

00:13:00.000 So I'll just start with this one.

00:13:02.000 Would you be okay if your son or daughter was a manager of a Walmart?

00:13:05.000 Most parents would say no.

00:13:08.000 And that's the whole ballgame.

00:13:10.000 A manager of a supercenter Walmart makes between $350,000,000 to $400,000 a year.

00:13:17.000 But, hey, I don't want my kid working for Walmart.

00:13:19.000 I'd rather have them, you know, studying North African lesbian poetry at UCLA.

00:13:25.000 And at least they went to college, right? 0.98

00:13:28.000 Because they need to go to football games.

00:13:30.000 And they need to be around friends. 0.98

00:13:32.000 All the talking points are so silly. 0.63

00:13:34.000 Parents, well, where are they going to meet people? 0.95

00:13:35.000 You're right.

00:13:36.000 People only meet each other at college.

00:13:39.000 Nowhere else.

00:13:39.000 There's never any meeting anywhere else.

00:13:42.000 The only place, well, I want them to have the college experience. 0.86

00:13:45.000 Oh, to have like unlimited free sex and to do like substances that might kill them and like marijuana laced fentanyl. 0.84

00:13:53.000 Like that's what.

00:13:54.000 Well, Charlie, you know it's just a paid vacation.

00:13:56.000 Well, but I just, I want someone to tell me what world they think that college is virtuous and show me the evidence.

00:14:03.000 I mean, again, there are some colleges that are good.

00:14:05.000 I'm willing to, it's not an exhaustive list, okay?

00:14:08.000 There's probably 20 or 30 that are really doing a great job.

00:14:11.000 And they say, well, okay, but, you know, I want them to go work for a major corporation.

00:14:15.000 All right, fine, great.

00:14:17.000 Go look at the data.

00:14:18.000 You know that half of kids that graduate from college end up getting a job that doesn't require a college degree 10 years after they graduate?

00:14:26.000 Doesn't even require a college degree.

00:14:27.000 You know that 41% of kids that enter college do not graduate?

00:14:30.000 They don't even graduate.

00:14:31.000 They shouldn't have gone in the first place.

00:14:33.000 And by the way, I asked the kids at Fullerton, I said, how many of you guys feel as if you're having to take classes that you do not, didn't learn anything, you didn't find any value?

00:14:42.000 Every hand goes up.

00:14:43.000 So it's a racketeering operation and it's about credentialing, not education.

00:14:48.000 And here's this other mythology that you have to go tens of thousands of dollars into debt to learn.

00:14:54.000 We have these incredible things now where you can basically be as smart as you want to be.

00:14:59.000 I read 100 books a year.

00:15:01.000 If you don't, that's your fault.

00:15:02.000 I'm sorry.

00:15:03.000 And so I'm not saying that like condescendingly.

00:15:05.000 It's like I'm pretty busy, right?

00:15:07.000 Do three hours of radio day, 450 employees.

00:15:09.000 I still am fitting in reading and learning because I love it.

00:15:12.000 So it's what you decide to attach yourself to.

00:15:16.000 So yeah, look, college is a scam.

00:15:18.000 And if you send your kid to college, as Dennis Prager would say, you're playing Russian roulette with their values.

00:15:25.000 Well, you know, my experience, I went to university, state university, and I was in a poly psych class with about 600 students.

00:15:32.000 The professor said, if you're a Christian, stand up.

00:15:35.000 And I was naive enough to think this was going to be a good moment. 0.99

00:15:39.000 And I stood up, and then he said, all the other students, look at the three biggest fools you're ever going to experience in your life. 0.99

00:15:47.000 Can I interject? 0.99

00:15:48.000 This is what's called a show trial.

00:15:51.000 And it's a humiliation tactic that is done by the left.

00:15:55.000 Mao did it and Stalin did it, which is the signaling, the isolating, and the humiliating of the other.

00:16:01.000 They do it to Christians. 1.00

00:16:02.000 They do it to conservatives on campus.

00:16:04.000 I don't mean, I apologize for interrupting, but that is a truth.

00:16:07.000 Communists love humiliation show trials.

00:16:10.000 Well, it's classic Marxism.

00:16:11.000 I mean, that's what happened during the lockdown.

00:16:13.000 If you're not aware of it, we're going to pit one group against another group, and we're going to therefore make the group we don't like the bad people.

00:16:21.000 It's the same thing that's happened.

00:16:22.000 CIA has done color revolutions done at the same way.

00:16:26.000 We just had it happen to us, and we were so naive, especially the church, that we couldn't see it and didn't even know what to do about it.

00:16:34.000 Yeah, that's so smart.

00:16:36.000 I discovered something today, so you guys are going to hear some new content, even if you listen to everything like Teresa.

00:16:40.000 She listens to all three podcasts a day.

00:16:42.000 She's a superstar.

00:16:43.000 But this is something I've never said publicly, which is, so they used Western Christian values against us and triggered an autoimmune response of our values against Western culture.

00:16:54.000 If any of you know how autoimmune works, it's your own immune system that attacks your body.

00:16:58.000 It's exactly what they've done to the West. 0.99

00:17:00.000 So they've used our generosity, they've used our compassion, they've used our niceties as a way to advance the transgender agenda, as a way to advance medical totalitarianism. 0.99

00:17:13.000 And the church is largely to blame for this because we believe that, you know, Jesus was only love and not truth, and that's it.

00:17:20.000 And so, for example, a lot of churches are saying, you know, I don't want to touch the trans thing. 0.94

00:17:24.000 If an eight-year-old wants to take Lupron or if an 11-year-old wants to get a hysterectomy, which is, if you don't know what hysterectomy is, that is a very serious surgery, okay?

00:17:33.000 Like that, that is a very, you know, it takes weeks to recover, and that is not a joke, right?

00:17:38.000 You're having 11 and 12-year-olds go under general anesthesia for a hysterectomy and have all their parts just removed because they think that there's something that they're not.

00:17:47.000 But we don't do anything because they've used our values against us, triggering this cultural autoimmune response where we are attacking ourselves.

00:17:56.000 And it's brilliant when you think about it.

00:17:58.000 So if you wanted to take over America, what do you do?

00:17:58.000 It really is.

00:18:01.000 You find what we consider to be virtues and push those virtues to the extent where they then become liabilities.

00:18:08.000 So we brag that we're the most charitable and generous country.

00:18:12.000 We brag that we are the most welcoming country.

00:18:14.000 We brag that we are the most kind country.

00:18:18.000 And so then the bad guys say, oh, really?

00:18:19.000 You're welcoming?

00:18:20.000 Well, then let's just keep your borders open.

00:18:22.000 Let's see how welcoming you actually are.

00:18:24.000 Oh, you're kind and compassionate.

00:18:25.000 Well, you're not going to do anything if we start chopping your kids' parts off.

00:18:28.000 And we don't know how to reconcile with it because we consider these to be virtues without any sort of restraint of what they actually mean or what they are or with the inverse of truth, standards, distinction, or order.

00:18:40.000 And so, yeah, we're living through kind of our own immune system attacking ourselves.

00:18:45.000 And it's about time that we start to activate people to realize what's happening.

00:18:50.000 Here's a question I want all of you to kind of ponder for a moment.

00:18:53.000 Is it ever right to lie?

00:18:57.000 How many of you say it's sometimes it's right to lie?

00:18:59.000 Raise your hand.

00:19:00.000 And how many of you would say the opposite?

00:19:03.000 How many would not raise your hand if Jesus came back and asked you personally, oh my gosh, how many of you feel like you're being tricked here?

00:19:12.000 Okay, so let's put you in Holland in 1944 and you're hiding Jews and the German soldier comes in and says, are you hiding Jews?

00:19:22.000 Is it right to lie?

00:19:25.000 Yes, it is.

00:19:26.000 But why?

00:19:28.000 Because there's a principle of life that supersedes what you're doing.

00:19:32.000 And you're protecting the image of God.

00:19:35.000 So if you're silent in the midst of what's happening today, are you protecting the image of God or are you just trying to avoid conflict?

00:19:47.000 You know, it hurts when we get confronted with truth.

00:19:52.000 And, you know, you've got to get out of your little, you know, us four no more circles long enough to see what's really happening and try to make a difference.

00:20:00.000 You may not win.

00:20:00.000 It doesn't matter if you win.

00:20:01.000 It matters that you try.

00:20:03.000 Amen?

00:20:10.000 What do you think, Charlie?

00:20:12.000 Truth must be relative, though, isn't it?

00:20:14.000 Well, no, truth is not relative.

00:20:17.000 What you said, a lot of pastors that I know are going to email me very angry about what you just said, Phil, because that would be considered heresy with some of the pastors we work with.

00:20:26.000 So I will remain neutral on that.

00:20:29.000 I would lie, but I'm not saying that that necessarily I could defend that theologically.

00:20:36.000 I'm not willing to say that.

00:20:37.000 But no, truth is not relative.

00:20:38.000 Truth is absolute and objective.

00:20:41.000 And this is what makes the Christian worldview and value system so different than anything else, is that we believe that truth was flesh.

00:20:49.000 And that is John 1, is that the logos became flesh and the word became to dwell among us.

00:20:57.000 And the idea that we see all throughout the scriptures is this tension between truth and lies and truth and deception.

00:21:05.000 And understand that the devil, he does not use complete opposite lies.

00:21:11.000 He'll use like half-truths and he'll get close to it.

00:21:15.000 And he's very crafty in what he does.

00:21:18.000 I was asked recently to kind of summarize, you know, the battle around us.

00:21:22.000 And I think it's John 10, 10, which is the enemy has come to lie, cheat, steal, and destroy, and Christ has come to give life and life more abundantly.

00:21:31.000 And so we are on the side of life.

00:21:32.000 We are on the side of trying to give people a new birth, as it says we must have in John 3.

00:21:40.000 But if you go to these campuses, and one of these young ladies I dialogued with today and the video, you guys will see, she doesn't even believe what she says she believes, right?

00:21:49.000 But she says that, you know, truth is nothing but it's relative.

00:21:52.000 And, you know, there's no such thing as absolute truth, which then, of course, you say, is that absolutely true?

00:21:57.000 And they can't quite process that, right?

00:22:00.000 Because they just made a truth claim.

00:22:02.000 And then, of course, then the social justice warrior activist will say that there's no such thing as good or evil.

00:22:10.000 There's no spectrum of which.

00:22:12.000 And then you ask, were concentration camps good or evil?

00:22:16.000 And of course they say evil.

00:22:17.000 So they develop the same spectrum, right?

00:22:19.000 And this is what's very important.

00:22:20.000 There's a great book if you're super nerdy and you want to read it.

00:22:23.000 It's incredible.

00:22:23.000 It's written by a non-Christian author.

00:22:25.000 So I actually think it's even more credible by Tom Holland called Dominion.

00:22:30.000 Awful title, great book.

00:22:32.000 But it's all about how he argues that what we consider to be normative morality in the West is an inheritance of Christianity.

00:22:41.000 So for example, the defending of the little or that regardless of your size, regardless of who you are, you should be stood up for against a bully, right?

00:22:51.000 Charity for somebody who has something less than you, idea of individual rights.

00:22:55.000 These are all Christian ideas.

00:22:56.000 And if you don't believe me, go do mission work in Central Africa. 0.83

00:23:00.000 Go to Uganda. 0.99

00:23:01.000 Go to places.

00:23:02.000 They will routinely, on a daily basis, just leave unwanted babies by the fire and nobody thinks anything of it.

00:23:08.000 And this, people are shocked when America, what do you mean?

00:23:12.000 I'm even, I'm shocked that Americans don't know this, right?

00:23:15.000 Talk to any pastor that has gone into the deep, I'm talking about the deep, uncivilized parts of Africa. 1.00

00:23:21.000 On a daily basis, they'll just abandon kids and just leave them because it's not a value.

00:23:26.000 And it's just, you know, I'll just have more, you know, whatever.

00:23:28.000 That kid has a deformity or that kid is crying too much or I don't have the food for it.

00:23:32.000 And all the time in a lot of these undeveloped villages, you'll just have little babies cry themselves to death in the center of the village.

00:23:42.000 Now, the reason you find that to be ghastly is because you were taught to find that ghastly.

00:23:47.000 It's not normal.

00:23:49.000 I'll prove it to you even further.

00:23:51.000 Yanmi Park grew up in the world's largest concentration camp, North Korea.

00:23:56.000 She is a North Korean dissident, which I find to be fascinating.

00:23:59.000 And when I had her on our podcast on our show, I didn't grill her on the typical stuff.

00:24:04.000 I was more interested in, did you know human suffering was inherently wrong from a young age?

00:24:11.000 And she'd say, what are you talking about?

00:24:12.000 We would walk over people begging for food and starving to death all the time.

00:24:16.000 She's like, we thought nothing of it.

00:24:17.000 That's just what happens.

00:24:18.000 Just the natural order of things.

00:24:19.000 The same way that you would swat a mosquito, she would say, is the same way we'd just cast aside somebody who had a birth defect.

00:24:26.000 What you think is normal is taught thanks to your Christian ancestors who embedded it into Western morality. 1.00

00:24:35.000 And you walk around and people say, oh, it's common sense.

00:24:38.000 It's Christian sense, not common sense. 0.62

00:24:42.000 The Christian ethic built the entire Western code.

00:24:46.000 Travel the world.

00:24:47.000 You realize that any place that is civilized, they have some attachment to colonialism.

00:24:54.000 What do you think colonialism did?

00:24:55.000 It brought in English common law.

00:24:58.000 It brought in due process. 0.52

00:24:59.000 It brought in like, hey, don't keep on having Aztec ceremonies when you bring babies up to the top of altars. 0.93

00:25:05.000 Now, again, we're kind of hypocrites of our own values because we have our own Aztec ceremonies called Planned Parenthood, where we kill a million babies every single year.

00:25:13.000 But I digress to this, which is to say, very often we fall into the trap that we as human beings have this natural common sense yearning of like, we know what is right or wrong.

00:25:23.000 And anybody who has visited the third world, any evidence that we have is completely the exact opposite, which is in the state of nature, absent revelation and left with reason alone, there is no way you can come to the conclusion that murder is wrong, that rape is wrong, that stealing is wrong.

00:25:43.000 And that is why my current theory, and I'm sure a theologian has made this before, is that Jesus Christ says, of course, all the laws of the prophets lie on two things.

00:25:52.000 Leviticus 19, love your neighbor as yourself.

00:25:55.000 And Deuteronomy 6, 3 through 5, love the Lord your God with our heart, soul, strength, and mind.

00:25:58.000 And I believe the way you do that is the Ten Commandments, which, again, is not a novel theory in some sense, but how do you accomplish those two things?

00:26:07.000 The only two things it cares about is relations with God.

00:26:10.000 No craven images.

00:26:11.000 You shall not bow down, right?

00:26:12.000 You shall honor the Sabbath and keep it holy.

00:26:14.000 And then relations between the neighbor.

00:26:16.000 You go around the planet, and if you just those 10 commandments, you can even take the Sabbath out, but I'm a big Sabbath fan.

00:26:23.000 And you say, is a society adhering to this more than not?

00:26:26.000 And if they're not, they're probably in some sort of, you know, very dark third world existence.

00:26:32.000 Don't take for granted the Christian inheritance we all have.

00:26:36.000 We must recommit ourselves to it every single day.

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00:28:36.000 You know, I like to pose a question that I read in Francis Schaefer.

00:28:39.000 If you've not read Schaefer, he's been gone a long time, but a Swiss theologian.

00:28:43.000 He said, if we pass a law that third graders are bad for society and everybody votes and agrees that we should eliminate third graders as a law, would it be okay? 0.89

00:28:57.000 How many of you would think that would be okay?

00:29:00.000 No, raise your hand this time.

00:29:01.000 Make a commitment.

00:29:02.000 That'd be okay?

00:29:03.000 No.

00:29:03.000 How many think that'd be wrong?

00:29:04.000 Raise your hand.

00:29:06.000 But what makes it wrong?

00:29:08.000 And then the response is always kind of to your point: well, everybody knows that.

00:29:13.000 Well, that one's so obvious, but they did the same thing with Jews in Germany.

00:29:20.000 They said they're not human beings.

00:29:23.000 And who did they have behind them pushing it?

00:29:26.000 Was the Lutheran church.

00:29:28.000 And the pastors who were there going, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think you're right.

00:29:32.000 And whenever religion gets merged with despotism, with evil, you have a problem. 0.91

00:29:40.000 That's why it's so critical that the church remains the church that God called it to be.

00:29:48.000 Amen.

00:29:49.000 And can I make a different point on there?

00:29:51.000 This is why I'm a stickler for words.

00:29:54.000 It drives me nuts when people who are conservatives call our country a democracy.

00:29:59.000 We are not a democracy.

00:30:00.000 We are a republic.

00:30:01.000 And I will explain to you the difference super quickly.

00:30:05.000 But with that being said, even when the people on TV say our democracy, they really mean our oligarchy, not our democracy.

00:30:13.000 So every time you hear democracy, just replace it with the word oligarchy, and it makes perfect sense.

00:30:17.000 So, what is the difference?

00:30:20.000 A republic has eternal truths that do not change just because a majority wants it to change.

00:30:28.000 A republic is built on eternal wisdom.

00:30:32.000 And then the outgrowth of a republic is representative government and elections.

00:30:37.000 But republics are intentionally slow in how you make massive structural change.

00:30:44.000 Now, you can make massive structural change.

00:30:46.000 At times, you need it.

00:30:47.000 We needed to abolish slavery, and I'm glad we did.

00:30:50.000 But massive structural change requires years, consensus, debate, and dialogue.

00:30:56.000 Whereas a democracy, I want you to think: if we were a democracy, what our country would look like.

00:31:01.000 If we were a democracy during BLM, we would have had reparations.

00:31:07.000 During all the race riots, we would have had CRT.

00:31:11.000 It would have become national curriculum.

00:31:13.000 What a republic does, it's like, oh, you want this like crazy, weird idea?

00:31:18.000 Wait six months, see if you still believe it.

00:31:21.000 And all of a sudden, we debate it, and you know, we go on our talk shows, and next thing you know, public opinion changes.

00:31:26.000 And maybe it's not that good of an idea anymore.

00:31:29.000 We are not a democracy, we are a republic.

00:31:31.000 That distinction and difference is incredibly important.

00:31:34.000 It's so true. 0.84

00:31:35.000 And think about, Let's think about, since we're talking about the rule of law, that's kind of been implied here, the rule of law.

00:31:43.000 Let's talk about immigration.

00:31:44.000 It's a pretty hot topic.

00:31:47.000 And kind of the, there's a part of you that says, well, gosh, people need to be safe and people need to be free.

00:31:53.000 People need opportunity.

00:31:55.000 But if you stop and think about it, everything that's happened in the last three years at the borders illegal.

00:32:02.000 Or do you disagree, Charlie?

00:32:04.000 No, I totally agree.

00:32:05.000 Let me read you a verse.

00:32:07.000 So this is, again, one of the major moral failings of the American church is on immigration. 0.97

00:32:12.000 Even some churches are good on pro-life stuff.

00:32:15.000 And I hear some of these pastors and they're like, well, you know, we should let them in with open arms.

00:32:20.000 I said, what?

00:32:20.000 What Bible are you reading?

00:32:22.000 Now, it is true.

00:32:23.000 You can misappropriate certain verses about loving the foreigner and loving the stranger.

00:32:28.000 Nobody's talking about not loving.

00:32:30.000 Deportation can be a very loving thing. 1.00

00:32:32.000 Go back to your country of origin. 1.00

00:32:34.000 If you're such a great dreamer, go back to Mexico and make Mexico great again. 1.00

00:32:37.000 You're a criminal. 1.00

00:32:38.000 You broke into our country. 1.00

00:32:39.000 You weren't invited.

00:32:40.000 You're squatting in America.

00:32:41.000 Go on back to Mexico City.

00:32:43.000 Your presence is a violation of our law.

00:32:45.000 So the people who want amnesty, which is a lot of Christians and a lot of people in D.C., they have to answer the question, should we get rid of the law that says that breaking into our country is illegal? 0.87

00:32:57.000 And they'll never say yes, right? 0.98

00:32:59.000 Because they're all cowards. 0.97

00:33:00.000 Like, oh, no, we should have amnesty and grant them, you know, status. 0.99

00:33:04.000 Why?

00:33:04.000 Exactly.

00:33:05.000 What other crime should we just get rid of?

00:33:07.000 For example, if you just rob a bank, she would be like, well, you know, I bet you really want, you were a dreamer.

00:33:14.000 You had dreams about building a business.

00:33:18.000 How about looting?

00:33:20.000 Oh, they're just, they're blowing off steam, you know.

00:33:23.000 They want the TV because they want a better life for themselves.

00:33:27.000 But you're laughing, but that's actually the argument they make.

00:33:31.000 And so if you're weak on immigration, you're probably weak on all the other rule of law stuff.

00:33:36.000 And remember, God is the giver of the law.

00:33:39.000 Leviticus 19, a lot of people can, you know, quote, you love your neighbor as yourself.

00:33:43.000 They cannot quote, in an administration of justice, do not favor the poor or the rich.

00:33:50.000 Ever.

00:33:51.000 That is in the same chapter that Christ our Lord cites that all the laws of the prophet hang upon.

00:33:57.000 No one ever talks about when you administer justice, you do not favor the poor person.

00:34:01.000 It must be blind.

00:34:02.000 The idea of blind justice is strictly biblical.

00:34:04.000 Okay, but I want to read this verse, which is one of the last things that Moses said in his farewell address to the people of Israel before they entered the land of Canaan, which of course is Israel, which is almost never, never talked about.

00:34:16.000 Deuteronomy 28, 43.

00:34:17.000 Foreigners who live in your land will gain more and more power. 1.00

00:34:22.000 While you gradually lose yours, they will have money to lend you, but you'll have none to lend them.

00:34:28.000 And in the end, the foreigners will be your rulers. 1.00

00:34:32.000 How often have you ever heard a pastor quote that verse?

00:34:36.000 That is in the Torah.

00:34:38.000 That is in the most holy section, according to, you know, adherent Jews.

00:34:43.000 And pastors only talking about, well, you know, we must open the borders.

00:34:46.000 And first of all, borders are not just biblical.

00:34:48.000 You don't have borders without the Bible.

00:34:50.000 It is a strictly biblical idea.

00:34:52.000 The idea of a one-world government is what Genesis 11 was all about, creating a oneness of the world.

00:34:57.000 Nimrod tried to create a one-world government for himself, for his own name. 0.93

00:35:01.000 Borders are an idea of, no, you actually don't get to control the whole world.

00:35:04.000 Sovereignty was given by God.

00:35:05.000 Second thing, an entire book is built about building a wall.

00:35:07.000 It's the book of Nehemiah.

00:35:08.000 You should check it out.

00:35:09.000 It's great.

00:35:09.000 Literally, the whole is like, Donald Trump should just read from the book of Nehemiah and say, this is my plan for the entire country.

00:35:16.000 Build the wall, build the wall.

00:35:17.000 Nehemiah 4.10, build the wall.

00:35:19.000 I'm not kidding.

00:35:21.000 And finally, just if I could say this, which is that if you want to just say we don't have the stomach to deport lawbreakers or criminals, that's fine.

00:35:30.000 But then deep down, you're not serious about the law and you're allowing your feelings and your emotion to guide you.

00:35:34.000 You're not allowing scripture or the Bible to guide you.

00:35:37.000 And what you're doing is you might as well just walk around with two middle fingers to every legal immigrant and say, oh, I'm glad you filled out the form and waited 20 years to come in Vietnam. 0.72

00:35:44.000 But I think that just because you can border jump and border cross at the southern border, you give them priority.

00:35:48.000 It's repulsive.

00:35:49.000 It's anti-American.

00:35:50.000 And every foreigner who broke the law should go back to their country of origin, period. 1.00

00:35:58.000 So important are nations.

00:36:00.000 And by the way, they're trying to destroy nation.

00:36:03.000 West Point just took their motto out of their whole doctrine of the university there.

00:36:11.000 But if nations are so important, if we think about it, there's multiple judgments in the word of God.

00:36:16.000 For example, the cross was a judgment of sin.

00:36:20.000 There's also what's called the judgment seat of Christ, where every believer, only believers, will appear and give an account for the deeds done in the body.

00:36:27.000 That's accountability.

00:36:29.000 But a lot of people don't know that Matthew talks about a judgment of nations and that some nations will enter into the millennial reign and some will not.

00:36:38.000 Some will be gone and some will not.

00:36:42.000 And the real question is, as he separates them like sheep from goats, he does that with nations just as well as he does it with individuals.

00:36:51.000 So if nations are not important, then why would he mention it?

00:36:55.000 If you go to the book of Revelation, it talks about this restored garden, okay?

00:37:00.000 And it talks about there the river of God flows from the throne of God, and on the leaves were the trees that were the healing of the say it with me.

00:37:10.000 Nations.

00:37:11.000 Nations will exist in eternity.

00:37:14.000 We don't know what it's going to look like, how it's going to manifest, and who's going to run it, but it's clearly there.

00:37:20.000 What do you think about that?

00:37:21.000 I agree completely, and I want you to keep going.

00:37:24.000 I think it's no, this idea, so there's a big tack against an attack against the nation.

00:37:31.000 And understand, World Economic Forum, George Soros, what they want is a forced assimilation of all the countries of the world to come and come together for oneness.

00:37:38.000 And they're trying to recreate Genesis 11, is that they want to conquer and imperialize the entire planet for their value system. 0.97

00:37:46.000 They want to be kings of the world.

00:37:48.000 And God distinctly scattered the people to prevent against that.

00:37:54.000 And nationalism is biblical.

00:37:56.000 Nationalism prevents wars.

00:37:58.000 Loving your country is inherent in the human spirit.

00:38:01.000 Jeremiah 29:7, demand the welfare of the nation that you are in because your welfare is tied to your nation's welfare.

00:38:07.000 Daniel cared about his nation.

00:38:09.000 Elijah cared so much about his nation that he went and threw down with King Ahab and was like, hey, like you're worshiping these awful people. 0.51

00:38:17.000 Let's go up to Carmel and see who the true God is.

00:38:19.000 And by the way, people would call Elijah too political today.

00:38:22.000 You know, these woke, skinny gene pastors don't worry you pass the test.

00:38:28.000 I just gained weight.

00:38:29.000 That's all.

00:38:29.000 That's right.

00:38:31.000 These woke, skinny gene pastors be like, I just like to preach the gospel and I don't like to be political. 0.99

00:38:38.000 What you're saying is that you're too weak, cowardly to ever say anything that's true. 0.99

00:38:44.000 I can't be open a Bible. 0.98

00:38:46.000 Like Elijah, let's just say what happened after God acted from the heavens.

00:38:52.000 He acted with a quick and decisive judgment against the pagans of the day.

00:38:56.000 And I'll just leave it at that.

00:38:57.000 But we look at these figures out of the Bible: Esther, Mordecai, Nehemiah, Jeremiah, they were all political.

00:39:03.000 They all cared about the nation.

00:39:04.000 They were counselors to the king.

00:39:07.000 And, you know, we're supposed to just kind of, this is this weird, and I will use the word demonic.

00:39:11.000 It's an unclean spirit because I love the word, you love the word.

00:39:14.000 Study it, pray over it, meditate it, fast over it.

00:39:17.000 If you find like explicit teaching throughout the entire body that commands you to never care about your nation, that commands you to never, and there are questions you can have about render under Caesar, what is Caesar?

00:39:27.000 That's fine.

00:39:27.000 Those are legitimate questions.

00:39:29.000 But then to turn it into like normative theology, that's never been the case of the church, ever.

00:39:33.000 And in fact, I will just, you know, one final thing, which is that caring about what happens around you is not just like convenient.

00:39:41.000 There will not be a church if we don't do this.

00:39:45.000 The most important thing is to share Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.

00:39:49.000 The second most important thing is to make sure you can do the first thing.

00:39:52.000 That's good.

00:39:54.000 I make this statement all the time, and people look at me like I'm crazy.

00:39:57.000 The Bible is the most political book on the planet.

00:40:01.000 Because there's not a chapter, there's not a book that doesn't deal with our contending with a nation, trying to reform a nation, bring revival to a nation, protect the people within the nation.

00:40:13.000 And I want to just pick up on Nimrod.

00:40:15.000 You're talking about Nimrod back in Genesis in the beginning of a one-world government.

00:40:19.000 So there is the first human kingdom is Babylon.

00:40:23.000 Babylon does not end as a geographical dimension.

00:40:29.000 It actually is a spirit, and it's judged finally in Revelation 8, 17 and 18, where it's called Babylon the Great Horror.

00:40:37.000 And the Great Horror is a mindset.

00:40:40.000 And so this one world order that began through Nimrod and the founding of Babylon continues all the way through. 0.94

00:40:48.000 So I get asked all the time, you know, where's America in biblical history in biblical narrative?

00:40:53.000 And I've read some of the weakest comments on that.

00:40:57.000 But in my book, I want you to know that I have a definitive answer where America is in biblical prophecy.

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00:41:09.000 I think we're ready for some questions.

00:41:11.000 What do you think?

00:41:11.000 Let's do some questions.

00:41:12.000 We're going to do some Q ⁇ A. We've got about 28 minutes.

00:41:15.000 Great.

00:41:15.000 So if you guys want to start lining up for questions, we can start taking them.

00:41:20.000 And please keep it as a question.

00:41:21.000 So if you guys want to stand up and get in line and ask a question, if you guys have one, please keep it as questions, not as statements or declarations that you're running for dog catcher or something.

00:41:31.000 So, yes, ma'am.

00:41:33.000 Hi.

00:41:33.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:41:33.000 I've been a fan for years.

00:41:35.000 God bless you.

00:41:36.000 Thank you.

00:41:36.000 What are your thoughts on the election?

00:41:37.000 Do we have hope?

00:41:39.000 We always have hope, yes.

00:41:41.000 And so do we have a chance?

00:41:43.000 That's a totally different question.

00:41:47.000 Yes, of course.

00:41:48.000 And so the, obviously, you mean the presidential election.

00:41:54.000 In California, you guys, you got your own problems, right?

00:41:56.000 So, but yeah, you guys should focus a lot on Orange County, helping out the congressional seats.

00:42:01.000 Very, very important.

00:42:02.000 You guys are in the place that will determine the next House of Representatives.

00:42:06.000 You guys got to go five for five.

00:42:07.000 You got to go five for five of all the congressional seats here.

00:42:10.000 Is it still five in Orange County or is it four now?

00:42:12.000 They redrew them.

00:42:14.000 I think it's five, right?

00:42:16.000 I think it's five.

00:42:17.000 Yeah, it's five for five in Orange County.

00:42:20.000 So President Trump obviously is going to be the nominee, which I'm thrilled about and really glad to see him succeed.

00:42:29.000 Joe Biden will be the Democrat nominee unless something goofy happens.

00:42:32.000 And it's looking less and less like that's not the case.

00:42:35.000 I'll be honest.

00:42:35.000 It looks more and more like Joe Biden is actually going to be the nominee.

00:42:38.000 The 1992 presidential election, I think, is the best precedent for what we're living through.

00:42:45.000 The media is just saying, oh, it's Trump v. Biden, Trump v. Biden.

00:42:48.000 It's really not.

00:42:48.000 It's Trump v. Biden v. RFK v. Cornell West v. Jill Stein.

00:42:53.000 And RFK has a lot more support than I think people realize.

00:42:56.000 And he's probably pulling more from Democrats right now, but he's still pulling a lot of Republican support.

00:43:01.000 And that's why Trump has to be careful on the vaccine issue.

00:43:04.000 And I'm happy to talk about that if you guys want.

00:43:07.000 So it's going to come down to a collection of states.

00:43:09.000 We have been ahead of the curve on this, on our program, and at Turning Point Action.

00:43:14.000 For those of you guys that listen, you guys know that we're kind of like every single day we're beating the drum, that it's going to come down to a collection of states.

00:43:22.000 Trump will win Iowa.

00:43:23.000 He will win Ohio.

00:43:24.000 He will win North Carolina.

00:43:26.000 And he will win Florida.

00:43:27.000 So it's going to come down to Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin.

00:43:30.000 We have said for the last couple months, it looks more and more like Arizona and Georgia are going to be in Donald Trump's category.

00:43:36.000 And in fact, there was a news story leaked from the Biden campaign today in Bloomberg that they're going to go all in on Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.

00:43:45.000 Donald Trump just has to win one of those.

00:43:47.000 Joe Biden has to win all three of those.

00:43:50.000 So the race is really kind of going up to the up, it's going to the upper industrial Midwest, is where the entire race is going. 0.60

00:43:57.000 Let's go one by one.

00:43:58.000 Pennsylvania, I'm the least optimistic about.

00:44:00.000 I mean, you have John Fetterman, who got elected as a senator.

00:44:04.000 They cheat, they lie, they steal.

00:44:06.000 It's mass mail and voting. 0.98

00:44:07.000 It could happen, but Philadelphia is so crooked, it is like LA.

00:44:11.000 I want you to think about that.

00:44:13.000 Imagine just LA in Pennsylvania.

00:44:15.000 That's Philadelphia, okay?

00:44:16.000 Almost the same, not quite the same size, but it's comparable. 0.67

00:44:19.000 It's about two-thirds the size of Los Angeles and equally as corrupt.

00:44:22.000 The center part of the state is like 80%, 90% Trump, but that doesn't even out if you don't do well in the Philly suburbs, and they cheat and they cheat and they cheat.

00:44:31.000 Let's go to Michigan next.

00:44:32.000 Michigan, I was very bearish on about six months ago, but there is this new Arab Muslim anti-Joe Biden movement of uncommitted.

00:44:42.000 If that continues, that could be a very serious problem for Joe Biden in Michigan.

00:44:46.000 If 100,000 Arab Muslims don't vote that did vote in 2020 or do not vote for Joe Biden and go uncommitted, Donald Trump can and should win the state of Michigan and then the presidency if they don't cheat. 0.90

00:45:00.000 And Michigan is a close second right up against the crooks of Pennsylvania.

00:45:03.000 I mean, that's Jimmy Hoffa territory, guys.

00:45:06.000 I mean, it is as bad as it gets.

00:45:08.000 Wayne County, Macomb County.

00:45:10.000 There are 52 counties that have been identified by the new RNC leadership, which I'm glad that Ron has finally gone.

00:45:16.000 Terrific.

00:45:17.000 And we put a lot of effort into that.

00:45:19.000 So we're really happy about that.

00:45:20.000 Where they fight, they filed a lawsuit yesterday where they found more voters registered than voters in 52 counties in Michigan.

00:45:27.000 It's just, it's beyond comprehension, right?

00:45:29.000 So then we go to Wisconsin.

00:45:31.000 I believe that Wisconsin is the best bet that we have to win one of those upper Midwest industrial belt states.

00:45:38.000 Wisconsin's a 50-50 state.

00:45:39.000 Donald Trump only fell 21,000 votes short in 2020.

00:45:43.000 It's going to come down to Waukesha, which is the western Milwaukee suburban county, Milwaukee County, Kenosha.

00:45:49.000 We have just opened up an office, Turning Point Action has, in the state of Wisconsin, where we're going to be heavily involved in ballot chasing and we're on the ground.

00:45:57.000 We are hiring up the largest ever GO TV grassroots outside group army that we know of in modern political history.

00:46:04.000 We're going to have over 450 full-time people on the ground in Arizona and Wisconsin doing the necessary work.

00:46:11.000 And again, I'm not here to raise money.

00:46:13.000 We've been super blessed.

00:46:14.000 If you guys want to learn more, that's fine.

00:46:16.000 But the biggest thing you can do is pray for us.

00:46:17.000 We're under constant attack, constant assault.

00:46:20.000 We need a covering of prayer.

00:46:21.000 If you guys could just go to war for us in the spiritual domain, that's honestly even more helpful. 1.00

00:46:26.000 The money will come.

00:46:27.000 That is really what is necessary right now because the demonic stuff that is happening to us and our team, it's like, I could tell you from just goofy medical stuff to people that are just getting near misses in car accidents to just really just dark, demonic, inexplicable stuff.

00:46:46.000 And we do believe in the invisible war that's happening around us.

00:46:50.000 And so, yeah, yes, we have a chance.

00:46:52.000 We have a hope.

00:46:53.000 But I think we have to meet God halfway.

00:46:56.000 It is going to take a move of God.

00:46:58.000 It's going to take mass repentance by the nation.

00:47:01.000 You know, people say, when are we going to get revival?

00:47:03.000 I firmly believe the scriptures tell us you can never get revival without repentance.

00:47:08.000 So we want the sugar high of revival without taking the cough syrup of repentance.

00:47:13.000 And repentance is not easy.

00:47:15.000 It's acknowledging that there is a God and you are not him and asking God for his infinite mercy for us falling short of the glory of God.

00:47:24.000 And I don't think God has done with America.

00:47:26.000 I do not.

00:47:27.000 I have seen no evidence of that.

00:47:28.000 I do not believe that God has turned his favor on this great country.

00:47:32.000 And I believe, you know, God willing, we'll be able to experience a miracle this November that only he could pull off.

00:47:39.000 But I don't believe in armchair miracles where I sit and like, hey, God, save this country for me.

00:47:45.000 My theology is that we must act obediently and with duty and pray that God will do the rest.

00:47:51.000 That's what we're trying to do coming into this November.

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00:49:18.000 Hey, Charlie.

00:49:19.000 So I'm trying to figure out why churches are sitting on the fence, and you kind of sit on the fence.

00:49:25.000 We know where you stand all the time.

00:49:27.000 Thank you.

00:49:28.000 And I feel like so many churches, and I was raised that there was a sin of omission, that if you're quiet, you don't speak up against something, that's just as bad as the action.

00:49:39.000 So what do we do to get churches to come together and make a charge, please?

00:49:46.000 You know, yeah, I think the challenge is it's the pastors.

00:49:52.000 It's not the people.

00:49:54.000 I hate to say it.

00:49:54.000 I hate to blame my crowd, but it's true.

00:49:59.000 I think it was Canterbury Tales where it said, if the gold rusts, what will become of the iron?

00:50:08.000 And if the priests fail, what will become of the people?

00:50:13.000 And so what we have a situation where we have a lot of pastors, number one, who don't know the word of God.

00:50:19.000 They're more equipped in five ways to be happy.

00:50:24.000 They really are.

00:50:26.000 And the word of God is clear and straightforward.

00:50:29.000 And so if there's going to be anything, don't pray for Christians. 1.00

00:50:33.000 Pray for pastors. 0.99

00:50:35.000 Pray that they either get right or get dead.

00:50:37.000 I mean, that's just... 0.70

00:50:38.000 Well, it's true.

00:50:40.000 That's exactly what happened in the Old Testament.

00:50:40.000 It's true.

00:50:42.000 When Hophti and Phineas, the sons of Eli, brought strange fire before the Lord, God brought judgment on them when they tried to use the Ark of the Covenant as a holy tool to win the battle.

00:50:58.000 And God, and then that was where the daughter named their son Ichabod, which means the Lord has forsaken or the glory of God is gone.

00:51:07.000 And so you have to pray very specifically, God, you need to either remove or change leadership in order for the churches of America to be changed.

00:51:18.000 Yeah, and I'll just kind of expound on that.

00:51:20.000 Support and pray for the good pastors.

00:51:22.000 Pastor Phil, Pastor Jack Hibbs, Pastor John Randall.

00:51:26.000 But pray for the good pastors.

00:51:27.000 And I could say this to someone's on the front line.

00:51:30.000 Teresa's the best at this.

00:51:31.000 She says, great podcast.

00:51:33.000 Praying for you.

00:51:34.000 Like, I can't tell you how that supports those of us on the front lines, right, Phil?

00:51:37.000 It's like every day it's negative, right?

00:51:39.000 900 people coming after you.

00:51:41.000 Just if you think it doesn't matter, you're wrong.

00:51:43.000 That's the enemy saying that.

00:51:45.000 Just be like, hey, great sermon this Sunday.

00:51:47.000 Love the message.

00:51:48.000 That really resonated with me.

00:51:49.000 That's so important.

00:51:50.000 And then for the bad pastors.

00:51:52.000 Confront them lovingly.

00:51:53.000 And if they don't, tell them to go become an insurance salesman or something, right?

00:51:57.000 Just like leave the ministry.

00:51:59.000 Or, you know, go become a TED Talk person, right?

00:52:02.000 You know, go give motivational speeches because that's basically what they do anyway, right?

00:52:05.000 Which, you know, the modern American pastor has like a testosterone rate like hovering around like 180, which by the way is like lower than most women, but that's a separate issue.

00:52:18.000 And estrogen levels that are through the roof. 0.97

00:52:19.000 They usually have a lisp.

00:52:21.000 And then, no, I mean, but like this metrosexual new Christian pastor, like, where did this come from? 0.65

00:52:27.000 They're like dress in all these baggy clothes and like, you know, I'm going to be your friend.

00:52:31.000 It's like, no, I want you to be my pastor, okay?

00:52:34.000 Not like the cool TikTok guy on the block.

00:52:36.000 And I don't want a pastor that has a larger wardrobe budget than a book budget.

00:52:41.000 Like, I'm not interested in that, okay?

00:52:44.000 Like, I'm not interested in like the cool news sneakers and your Gucci bag.

00:52:48.000 Like, it's obvious you're just being a pastor to be popular.

00:52:50.000 You don't believe this stuff.

00:52:51.000 They don't even know very much.

00:52:53.000 They can't quote scripture.

00:52:54.000 They can't go deep.

00:52:54.000 They're really afraid of talking to any of us.

00:52:56.000 When I confront them, they run for the hills.

00:52:58.000 That's how you know they're false prophets and they're ministers of a pagan agenda because they'll never dialogue in the scriptures.

00:53:03.000 They don't know the word.

00:53:04.000 And I'm not a pastor, not a theologian, but I love the word.

00:53:06.000 I know enough where if I'm going to challenge somebody, I'll be able to have a conversation on it.

00:53:10.000 But a lot of them, they went to seminary, which is one of the reasons why they're so weak.

00:53:14.000 And that's my final point.

00:53:15.000 The seminaries, aka cemeteries, are one of the most destructive influences on American Christian life is that they are infiltrated with wokeism, social justice nonsense, and they are raising a generation of these weak, beta male, kind of overly feminine pastor men that are coming to these churches and they're all emotion, no truth, and they bring, quite honestly, this unclean spirit to destroy the church from within. 0.88

00:53:42.000 It needs to be excommunicated immediately from the American church.

00:53:48.000 You know, before the next question, we probably shouldn't go on very much longer because we could really get in trouble here tonight.

00:53:57.000 That's all I'm thinking.

00:53:58.000 But anyway, next question.

00:54:00.000 Look, if you think this is trouble, you got to spend like a couple days with me.

00:54:03.000 I'll tell you when we get into trouble.

00:54:05.000 But yeah.

00:54:06.000 Hey, Charlie, thanks for your time.

00:54:07.000 You spoke about responsibilities we have to our nation.

00:54:10.000 What factors do you believe are contributing to our country's military falling short in its recruiting targets?

00:54:16.000 And what role do individuals have in serving in the military moving forward?

00:54:20.000 Yeah, I mean, this is where we'll get in trouble, but it's just a fact.

00:54:23.000 Look, there's a war on white people in this country, and no one wants to say it out loud. 0.83

00:54:27.000 It's not like white nationalists to say that, but the vast majority of enlisting of the American military last 40 years were young white Christian Southerners.

00:54:35.000 In fact, the majority of the American military came from six states.

00:54:38.000 Did you know that?

00:54:39.000 Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, South Carolina, Kentucky, and Tennessee made up nearly half of the American military for years.

00:54:47.000 The American South that we laugh at fly over country, they talk funny.

00:54:50.000 They're the ones that fight the wars that keep us free.

00:54:54.000 And all of a sudden, we come out and we're like, yeah, I want to understand white rage.

00:55:00.000 You can't have the cross.

00:55:01.000 And then all of a sudden, those good old Southern boys that used to rise up and in a good way to go volunteer for the military are like, no, I'm not going to do that.

00:55:07.000 I'm going to go be a plumber.

00:55:09.000 Or I'm going to go do something else.

00:55:11.000 And so the military now exists as basically a social welfare program with missiles where people look at it.

00:55:19.000 The way that they recruit for the military now is like, look at all the perks and benefits.

00:55:22.000 And it's like, it's disgusting, honestly.

00:55:25.000 It's like, if you're really going in there because you think you can get like a better home loan, you're going in the military for the wrong reasons, okay?

00:55:31.000 And by the way, I've never served.

00:55:32.000 God bless all of you that have served because you serve for the right reasons.

00:55:36.000 You serve for the right reasons.

00:55:38.000 And it comes down, I'll be very honest, like women in combat scenarios never should have happened. 1.00

00:55:44.000 Women in the military, fine, but women in frontline combat never should have happened. 0.98

00:55:48.000 And if you don't agree with that, the transgender thing, like, what are we thinking? 0.99

00:55:51.000 Like, we're bringing in these like mentally delusional people around like thermonuclear weaponry, well, not thermonuclear weaponry, but like Tomahawk missiles and like Blackhawk helicopters.

00:56:01.000 And we're like, oh, yeah, we're the fighting, the finest fighting force in the world.

00:56:04.000 Diversity is our strength.

00:56:05.000 Like, no, actually, American strength is our strength.

00:56:07.000 Thank you very much.

00:56:08.000 Like, we don't need like gender diversity to like beat the chi comms. 0.80

00:56:12.000 Like, um, and so, yeah, look, and if you want to know, U.S. U.S. military recruitment is down.

00:56:18.000 What is the number 30% over the last 10 years?

00:56:20.000 It is so low.

00:56:21.000 We cannot fill the ranks.

00:56:22.000 And I love these like Democrat and weak Republican senators in D.C.

00:56:26.000 Well, we need a committee to try to examine why people are not enrolling into the military.

00:56:30.000 They're not enrolling into the military because they don't want to put their life on the line for a country.

00:56:34.000 Well, no, they will for the country, but they don't want to participate in an institution that constantly says that they're the problem.

00:56:41.000 Excuse me, when you go into a practice where your life is literally on the line, you don't want to wonder if the person who's deploying you hates you because of the color of your skin or hates you because you're Christian values.

00:56:53.000 Or Mark Milley says, you know, white rage is one of the greatest threats to the American project.

00:56:59.000 And so I get asked the question, you know, Charlie, should I serve the military?

00:57:02.000 I'm 18.

00:57:03.000 And I'm so torn because I love the spirit.

00:57:05.000 Like, God bless you for wanting to serve this country.

00:57:07.000 Like, we need you.

00:57:09.000 But, like, under this president, under this Lloyd, that Lloyd Austin, who's a disgusting person, honestly, who, like, what happened in Afghanistan is pure treason.

00:57:18.000 I'm sorry he should be impeached and removed from office for what happened in Afghanistan just for that. 0.53

00:57:21.000 That alone, like, end of story?

00:57:25.000 My advice to President Trump is like, every day he's throwing an ad on Afghanistan.

00:57:28.000 I just think it's like it resonates on like a very deep primal level for us.

00:57:32.000 And those 13 Marines never should have been killed.

00:57:35.000 And Biden's checking his watch. 0.93

00:57:37.000 The whole thing is just so disgusting.

00:57:39.000 And like, it's basically a non-stop signal to the American population that the military doesn't go back.

00:57:47.000 And the final point is less racial and just more, like, there's a war on men in this country.

00:57:50.000 Our testosterone rates are down massively.

00:57:52.000 They're down 80% over the last 30 years.

00:57:54.000 No one wants to find out why.

00:57:56.000 And it's probably because of plastics and the food that we're eating.

00:57:59.000 And it probably has something to do with the, I don't think these things are helping and how the close proximity we always have them in our pockets.

00:58:06.000 I'm not the one that came up with that idea, by the way, but I can't believe that having a supercomputer walking around in your pocket all day long is good for testosterone production.

00:58:13.000 If you think I'm a conspiracy theorist, I'm sorry.

00:58:16.000 There's plenty of studies that are suggesting that.

00:58:17.000 But anyway, but yeah, look, the American man is quickly becoming the American beta male.

00:58:24.000 And you're going to see a reflection in what is the most masculine thing a person can do, which is go to war.

00:58:31.000 And that declines.

00:58:33.000 And so I think all of that contributes.

00:58:35.000 And it's not about pay.

00:58:36.000 It's not about benefits.

00:58:37.000 Because I know the people in this audience, if we were legitimately at war and there was a call to action, it doesn't matter how much you were paid.

00:58:43.000 If it was the virtuous and righteous thing to do and it meant to defend your family and your wife, you would go even if there was no pay and you would come back.

00:58:51.000 So it's not about that.

00:58:52.000 It's about things much greater than that.

00:58:53.000 And it's a tragedy.

00:58:54.000 And, you know, military recruitment is a sign of the health of a nation.

00:58:58.000 And the fact that it's down 30 or 40% shows that this nation is very sick.

00:59:02.000 Thank you.

00:59:02.000 God bless you.

00:59:05.000 Thank you for taking my question.

00:59:07.000 So recently in Orange County, we faced a big recall of our conservative school board majority.

00:59:13.000 My girlfriend and I, well, she's my friend, not my girlfriend.

00:59:16.000 I'm married.

00:59:16.000 But anyway, we were door-to-door canvassing.

00:59:18.000 And one of the things we found out is Christians, Republicans, conservatist, they did not agree with us.

00:59:24.000 And we want to know how can we, as just moms that are going out, because we're the ones out there.

00:59:30.000 And how can we convince Christians that just because they don't align with your personal preference, you still have to vote with your biblical and moral values?

00:59:38.000 Because that's been our biggest number.

00:59:40.000 I'm curious.

00:59:40.000 So, what were you?

00:59:41.000 What were you canvassing for it?

00:59:42.000 We were trying to get them to vote no on the recall of two conservative board members, and we're knocking on Christians' doors, and they're saying, Oh, no, they're book banning, but the teachers' union was behind it. 0.88

00:59:53.000 And we need to find it a way because I believe it starts local and it starts with us.

00:59:57.000 This book banning thing is so amazing to me.

00:59:59.000 It is so demonic.

01:00:01.000 And anybody, you weren't knocking on Christians' doors, okay?

01:00:04.000 Those are people that call themselves Christians. 0.65

01:00:05.000 No, I'm just being honest.

01:00:06.000 Like, they're going to have a real judgment when they die because that's that the Christian doesn't talk like that. 1.00

01:00:11.000 So, um, and I don't say that lightly.

01:00:13.000 This book banning thing.

01:00:14.000 Okay, you know what book is banned?

01:00:15.000 The Bible is banned from California public schools, okay?

01:00:18.000 These are Christians.

01:00:19.000 I don't believe in book banning.

01:00:20.000 Really?

01:00:20.000 Are they teaching the Ten Commandments in your fourth graders' class?

01:00:22.000 No, that's too religious. 0.93

01:00:24.000 But it's okay that lesbian pornography is taught to my fourth grader because I don't want books to be banned.

01:00:29.000 Let me just say, we have lost the messaging war on this partially.

01:00:32.000 It's not books, it is pornography, okay?

01:00:35.000 It's pornography.

01:00:36.000 And they're like, Well, what do you mean it's pornography?

01:00:37.000 And by the way, I'm sure, I don't know if you've read it, you know, if you don't believe me, go read these books.

01:00:44.000 It's so bad that when they're read publicly at the school board meetings, they cut off the microphone because they say that you're being indecent.

01:00:52.000 So, it's indecent to say it at a school board meeting, but it's fine for a nine-year-old to consume it.

01:00:58.000 So, I look, I'm imagining that some of these were women that you're knocking on the doors of, I'm guessing, and men, I guess.

01:01:06.000 I don't know how to convince someone that calls himself a Christian and is perfectly fine with a secular pagan takeover of the country. 0.99

01:01:13.000 I'm not an expert in that.

01:01:15.000 I'm kind of a blunt force instrument.

01:01:16.000 I just kind of tell the truth and kind of let it, you know, I am good at persuading, you know, college kids that are like Marxists and like, you know, heathens.

01:01:25.000 Like, I'm actually pretty good at that.

01:01:27.000 But, but here's why.

01:01:29.000 Let me tell you why.

01:01:29.000 And I don't mean to monopolize too much on this because I'd love to have Phil's comments.

01:01:33.000 I actually have a heart for the Marxist heathen because they're lost.

01:01:36.000 They're not saying they're one of us.

01:01:39.000 Like the person today, they say, I believe in nothing.

01:01:41.000 I'm an atheist.

01:01:42.000 There's no God.

01:01:42.000 Like, okay, like, I don't hold you to the same standard as someone who says they're a Christian.

01:01:47.000 So, that person's lost.

01:01:48.000 Like, I pray for that person.

01:01:50.000 As soon as someone uses the identifying characteristic that I'm a Christian, like, the bar is like infinitely higher.

01:01:55.000 And then, if you fall short of that bar, like, we're going to have a problem, like a big problem.

01:01:59.000 Like, if you're going to vote for, you know, pushing of pornography or you're going to peddle this, you're not filled with the spirit.

01:02:04.000 You're not in the word.

01:02:05.000 You're not a Christian. 1.00

01:02:05.000 I'm sorry. 1.00

01:02:06.000 And I'm not saying to you, but I know that might be harsh for people to hear, but by the fruit, you will know them.

01:02:13.000 And Jesus spent more time warning about deception than he did about anything else.

01:02:19.000 Be warning of these.

01:02:20.000 They're going to deceive you.

01:02:24.000 All of 1 Peter is about false prophets, like the entire part of the beginning of 1 Peter.

01:02:28.000 And we must wonder: are these people who call themselves Christian pastors actually doing the work of God?

01:02:33.000 By the fruit, you will know them.

01:02:34.000 And, you know, one person in this local area that I pick on a lot because he deserves it because he's a nasty person in how we text is Rick Warren.

01:02:40.000 And, you know, Rick Warren's such a nice person.

01:02:41.000 He's not a nice person.

01:02:42.000 Okay. 1.00

01:02:42.000 He's a very nasty person. 1.00

01:02:43.000 And we got in these texting debates and purpose-driven life. 0.98

01:02:46.000 Like, okay.

01:02:47.000 And again, his son committed suicide.

01:02:49.000 I feel sorry for him.

01:02:50.000 He's broken.

01:02:50.000 He's tormented.

01:02:51.000 All this sort of stuff.

01:02:52.000 I'll give you an example of how nasty he is.

01:02:52.000 And he goes around.

01:02:55.000 He does an obituary for Timothy Keller, who I liked, who finished poorly and didn't do a good job at all his last decade because he was pro-abortion, pro-child sacrifice, all that stuff, called himself a Christian.

01:03:05.000 And did some good work early in his life on theological topics.

01:03:08.000 Timothy Keller said the Bible doesn't speak clearly about whether abortion is right or wrong.

01:03:12.000 That's Timothy Keller, right?

01:03:13.000 And then Rick Warren says, unlike some people that wanted to politicize Timothy Keller's life, he always rose above the political attacks.

01:03:20.000 I'm like, I'm sorry.

01:03:21.000 And I texted Rick.

01:03:22.000 I'm like, I'm sorry.

01:03:23.000 Who's politicizing his life?

01:03:24.000 Like us or you using an obituary attacking us?

01:03:28.000 And by the way, Rick Warren marched in a BLM parade.

01:03:30.000 He said, if you don't get the vaccine, it's unloving.

01:03:32.000 He's the one that said, if you don't wear a mask at church, you're defying the wishes of Jesus Christ.

01:03:36.000 And I'm paraphrasing some of this because I don't want to be sued by the loving Rick Warren, right?

01:03:40.000 But like, I'm sorry, you're not finishing well, Rick Warren.

01:03:42.000 You're being used as an instrument of a secular new age pagan agenda. 0.85

01:03:47.000 Like, stop calling yourself a pastor.

01:03:48.000 I'm sorry.

01:03:50.000 I'm going to get you.

01:03:50.000 You want to keep getting in trouble, Phil?

01:03:53.000 I'd like to go a little deeper.

01:04:00.000 So one of the things you hear all the time when you talk to Christians is, don't judge me, right?

01:04:06.000 Okay, do you realize what the Bible actually says about that?

01:04:09.000 It says we are not to judge those outside of the body, but we judge those within the body.

01:04:15.000 Do you not know you will also judge angels?

01:04:18.000 So we are to judge one another if you call the name Christian.

01:04:23.000 We don't judge unbelievers because they don't have truth.

01:04:27.000 They've not been transformed.

01:04:29.000 They're what Corinthians calls natural.

01:04:32.000 They're naturally thinking people versus Christians are supposed to be supernaturally thinking. 1.00

01:04:38.000 If you're away from God, then you're a carnal Christian. 1.00

01:04:41.000 So nobody can, you should memorize that scripture from Corinthians and know what it says about, no, we are to judge one another because that's how accountability is the first rule of doing the right thing.

01:04:56.000 Amen.

01:04:57.000 Amen.

01:04:58.000 And so, yes, I hold Christians to a higher standard, but I wanted to say one thing.

01:05:01.000 God bless you for knocking on doors and doing grassroots activism.

01:05:04.000 Like, I can't say enough about that.

01:05:07.000 We lost our lights.

01:05:08.000 You got to pay the light bill, Phil.

01:05:10.000 Yeah, can we pass that offering bucket and get the lights back on?

01:05:14.000 I think we can do two more.

01:05:15.000 Is that okay?

01:05:16.000 Yeah, yeah, let's do it.

01:05:17.000 Okay, two more.

01:05:18.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:05:19.000 First, I want to thank three people, you, Dennis Breger, and Jack Hibbs, for bringing me back to Christ.

01:05:26.000 Thank you.

01:05:29.000 My question is about my friend who's also really helped me come back to Christ.

01:05:34.000 She herself is attending a church that has, I guess, I would call him a happy talk pastor.

01:05:41.000 And I just need some words of wisdom for how to talk to her about the spiritual battle that we're fighting because I think she's quite afraid of it.

01:05:50.000 Yeah, well, great question.

01:05:52.000 And God bless you for coming back to Christ.

01:05:54.000 That's the most important thing that you could do tonight.

01:05:56.000 The most important thing you could do tonight, okay, in your life.

01:06:01.000 So if she's afraid of it, you should definitely work with that because as Christians, you should only fear God, period, okay?

01:06:07.000 Shouldn't fear man.

01:06:08.000 You shouldn't fear the enemy.

01:06:10.000 God is sovereign overall.

01:06:12.000 And then I would just lean on the word, right?

01:06:14.000 I would let the word do the talking and text her a daily Bible verse that speaks to you and thinks speaks to the times around us.

01:06:22.000 What you're describing is a very difficult situation, which is a sister in Christ who has a happy talk, you know, motivational speaker that she attends every Sunday.

01:06:31.000 And it feels very comforting.

01:06:33.000 I will say, if she's legit, that sort of diet of nothing but getting, like, you know, just eating Skittles for dinner every single day ends up kind of creating a lot of nausea and digestive problems.

01:06:49.000 Like eventually you want to get to the meat and potatoes, a church like this, a church like Jack Hibbs, where they actually open the Bible and they dive deep into the word, right?

01:06:57.000 And I think you should just say like, hey, you know, do you think you're getting depth at this church?

01:07:00.000 And, you know, and I would just love on them.

01:07:04.000 And again, if she's, if she's doing the right stuff, then maybe it's not that big of a deal.

01:07:08.000 And invite her to come to your church and come to this church.

01:07:12.000 But it's a tough situation because a lot of people form bonds at these churches.

01:07:15.000 And it's too bad because they don't actually know what the church is.

01:07:18.000 I don't know what church you're talking about.

01:07:19.000 And I'm taking your word at, you know, but happy talk pastors are not my favorite.

01:07:24.000 Let's just put it that way.

01:07:25.000 Let me tell you why.

01:07:26.000 We're in a war.

01:07:27.000 And I don't need happy talk in the midst of one of the great, most highly consequential spiritual climaxes in the history of the species.

01:07:35.000 That's what we're living through.

01:07:37.000 It is like, it is like the climax of God's story and God's plan, which I think you write about in your book, right, Phil?

01:07:43.000 You know, I'm glad you brought that up.

01:07:47.000 And can I add, by the way, it says in the latter days, people will give heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of demons.

01:07:56.000 So we know that one of the characteristics, the closer we get to the return of Christ, is going to be that.

01:08:01.000 And it says they will accumulate for themselves teachers after their own liking who will tickle their ears.

01:08:06.000 Okay?

01:08:07.000 These are end time characteristics.

01:08:09.000 I really encourage everyone to read the pastorals, letters, that is 1 Timothy, 2 Timothy, and Titus, because it has the doctrine of suffering in it as a believer.

01:08:21.000 And you have to understand that when things go against your grain, it's not necessarily because God doesn't love you.

01:08:27.000 It's because maybe you're doing the right thing and you're standing for something.

01:08:32.000 But if you get shocked by somebody who doesn't like you, then go back and read the pastoral letters.

01:08:38.000 Because he's writing to pastors.

01:08:39.000 He's writing to Timothy, the pastor of Ephesus, and he's telling him, this is what it's going to be like.

01:08:46.000 So just encourage you there.

01:08:47.000 And just stay in prayer and fast for your friend and pray for wisdom.

01:08:50.000 God will give it generously.

01:08:51.000 James 1.5.

01:08:52.000 God bless you.

01:08:53.000 Thank you so much.

01:08:54.000 The final question.

01:08:54.000 All right.

01:08:56.000 Charlie, thank you so much for your ministry.

01:08:59.000 I really appreciate your clarity of thought and the way you present your arguments and things like that.

01:09:04.000 It's so powerful.

01:09:05.000 And would you agree with William Lane Craig when he says, you know, that one of the greatest satanic lies today is that we live in a postmodern culture.

01:09:17.000 I love William Lane Craig.

01:09:19.000 I'm a donor to his organization, and I totally agree.

01:09:22.000 Thank you.

01:09:25.000 That was too easy.

01:09:26.000 You want to do one more?

01:09:27.000 See, this guy's so smart.

01:09:29.000 This guy, he smelled it.

01:09:31.000 One last one.

01:09:33.000 And, sir, I didn't mean to be short.

01:09:35.000 That was a great question, and I appreciate the kind words.

01:09:37.000 Thank you.

01:09:39.000 Where do you stand on the Orthodox Christian Church and it suffers the change, the political and social changes we're facing today in this nation?

01:09:48.000 What do I stand on, the Orthodox Church?

01:09:49.000 I love Orthodox Christians.

01:09:50.000 I'm not Orthodox.

01:09:52.000 I grew up around a bunch of Serbian Orthodox, and so I think the world of them.

01:09:56.000 And I don't know much about the theological differences between, you know, more evangelical circles and the Orthodox Church, but, you know, God bless them.

01:10:05.000 And so, and I think there needs to be more attention drawn to the mass persecution, especially the Coptic community in the Middle East.

01:10:11.000 It's only going to continue.

01:10:12.000 It's only going to accelerate.

01:10:14.000 And I consider them to be full brothers and sisters in Christ.

01:10:17.000 Just one other thing.

01:10:18.000 Paul said in Philippians that there's some that preach Christ for the wrong reason.

01:10:22.000 Some for gain, some for their own, to puff up their own selves.

01:10:27.000 But he said, if Christ is proclaimed, I rejoice.

01:10:31.000 And so there are some cardinal doctrines that churches have that are critical.

01:10:37.000 Virgin birth, resurrection, heaven, hell, the word of God, some of those kind of things.

01:10:43.000 A lot of churches get off on some other things that are minor issues that we make major.

01:10:49.000 Remember, we've got enough enemies.

01:10:51.000 We don't need to create new ones.

01:10:54.000 Yeah, and I will say, God bless the Orthodox Church for preserving so many of the holy sites in Israel.

01:11:00.000 That is a way they've touched my life significantly.

01:11:02.000 The Orthodox Church, some of the great preservationists and conservationists of the access to our holy sites in Jerusalem.

01:11:08.000 God bless you.

01:11:09.000 Thank you.

01:11:10.000 You want to wrap it up?

01:11:11.000 Yeah, let's wrap it up.

01:11:12.000 Thank you guys for this.

01:11:13.000 If you want to subscribe to the podcast and get Phil's book, you guys can do that.

01:11:18.000 So I'm giving you a hard time.

01:11:19.000 And no, you can subscribe to our podcast here.

01:11:21.000 Look, here's my message to you guys.

01:11:23.000 What a time to be alive.

01:11:24.000 And there's so much happening.

01:11:26.000 And I believe the Lord has given us agency, the ability to choose, the ability to act.

01:11:31.000 And so don't just be a spectator.

01:11:34.000 You know, many of you will probably ask or say, you know, Charlie, are you an optimist or a pessimist?

01:11:38.000 I get this question all the time.

01:11:39.000 And so if I tell you right now, I'm an optimist, you will go home and do nothing because, you know, oh, Charlie thinks we're going to win because he's an optimist.

01:11:46.000 If I say I'm a pessimist, then you're going to go home and do nothing because, oh, Charlie says, you know, it's all over.

01:11:51.000 You know, no use in this.

01:11:54.000 I'm going to say it depends wholly on what you do.

01:11:57.000 And some of you say, Charlie, I've already been doing everything I possibly can.

01:12:00.000 I knock on doors.

01:12:02.000 I listen to podcasts.

01:12:04.000 I watch, you know, your television program.

01:12:06.000 You know, I bought the pillow.

01:12:08.000 I've done everything that's been asked of me.

01:12:15.000 That's always a good line.

01:12:18.000 Promo code Kirk.

01:12:20.000 Promo code.

01:12:21.000 By the way, I use that at every speech.

01:12:23.000 And I find out thousands of people have used promo code Kirk just because of that one line.

01:12:27.000 It's really great.

01:12:29.000 Promo code Kirk, my pillow, the Giza Dream Sheets and those slippers.

01:12:34.000 I tell you, you could fund a revolution with those slippers.

01:12:39.000 It's about getting in the arena.

01:12:41.000 My ask for you tonight, no longer be as a spectator, get into the arena, whatever that might look like for you.

01:12:49.000 Do more.

01:12:50.000 We need you.

01:12:51.000 And God bless you guys.

01:12:52.000 Thank you for sitting through all that.

01:12:54.000 God bless you for being here tonight.

01:12:56.000 And as we go, I just want to have you join together here.

01:13:02.000 I'm going to pray for Charlie.

01:13:04.000 Heavenly Father, we lift up Charlie.

01:13:06.000 We pray for the strengthening of the inner man.

01:13:09.000 We pray, God, that he might be healthy in every way, that he would be protected by the armor of God, that you would watch over him, his household, his children, and that you would bless the work of Turning Point USA.

01:13:21.000 And thank you, God, for this tonight.

01:13:23.000 I think for every person here in Jesus' name.

01:13:25.000 Amen.

01:13:26.000 Thank you, Charlie.

01:13:28.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

01:13:29.000 Email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:13:31.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - March 28, 2024

Where Did Western Morality Come From?

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