The Charlie Kirk Show - Who Will Be the Next Speaker?

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, more about the speaker fight as we go back in the memory machine.

00:00:04.000 Something that happened in 2014 that played directly into something, the history that happened this week.

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00:01:16.000 So much to cover.

00:01:18.000 What were you doing on the 10th of June, 2014?

00:01:27.000 Where were you?

00:01:29.000 Where were you when one of the most powerful people in Washington, D.C. received a surprise from the grassroots?

00:01:40.000 There's so much attention right now on the motion to vacate with Kevin McCarthy.

00:01:45.000 Never happened before in American history.

00:01:47.000 What if I told you that this has been bubbling up for well over a decade?

00:01:52.000 I remember the spring of 2014.

00:01:55.000 I would receive email solicitations and text messages.

00:01:58.000 I was still a young activist at the time.

00:02:00.000 Turning Point USA was not even two years old.

00:02:04.000 I was traveling the Midwest, traveling the country, trying to scrap together whatever support I could.

00:02:08.000 And I remember I was getting email solicitations about an economics professor in Virginia that was trying to unseat Eric Cantor.

00:02:21.000 Eric Cantor at the time was one of the most powerful people in Washington, D.C. Eric Cantor was House Majority Leader, number two in charge at the time.

00:02:33.000 It was Boehner Cantor.

00:02:37.000 Paul Ryan was head of the budget committee and the Ways and Means Committee.

00:02:41.000 And I remember all of a sudden I got an alert on my phone on the 10th of June.

00:02:46.000 I remember exactly where I was.

00:02:47.000 I was in Lyle, Illinois.

00:02:49.000 Of all places.

00:02:50.000 I couldn't believe it.

00:02:51.000 I was still young in the political world, but almost every single person that was an expert was shocked by this.

00:02:58.000 A then unknown name by the name Dave Bratt shocked the world and displaced Eric Cantor in a summertime primary.

00:03:09.000 Dave Bratt said, we cannot continue this lack of fiscal discipline.

00:03:15.000 We need a new voice in Washington, D.C.

00:03:18.000 We need a different perspective.

00:03:20.000 Eric Cantor had more money than he knew what to do with.

00:03:23.000 But the grassroots, even dating nine years ago, was growing impatient, was growing tired of hearing the same sort of one-liners.

00:03:40.000 Okay, yeah, we're going to balance the budget and we're going to secure the border.

00:03:44.000 Nine years ago, the grassroots sent a message when Eric Cantor lost the Dave Bratt.

00:03:47.000 Dave Bratt is now at Liberty University and obviously comes on Steve Bannon's program.

00:03:52.000 He's been in our program multiple times.

00:03:54.000 So, what happened to Speaker McCarthy this week has actually been bubbling up for well over a decade.

00:04:03.000 You might remember this book called Young Guns, Paul Ryan, Eric Cantor, and Kevin McCarthy, a new generation of conservative leaders.

00:04:13.000 Paul Ryan became speaker right after John Boehner stepped down.

00:04:17.000 And Paul Ryan disappointed all of us.

00:04:19.000 He showed his true colors as nothing more than a typical transactional Washington, D.C. technocrat, as someone who promised to balance the budget and represent voters.

00:04:28.000 He was nothing more than a chamber of commerce corporate shill talking about how we're going to ease the burden of taxes on the biggest corporations and bring in more foreigners and invade foreign countries.

00:04:45.000 So Eric Cantor was taken out.

00:04:47.000 And you would think that would have sent a message to the Washington, D.C. oligarchs that the grassroots are not to be played with, that the people were losing patience.

00:05:01.000 That very same movement that, of course, started with the Tea Party movement in 2010 that delivered a mandate to rein in the spending, a mandate to shrink the size of D.C., a mandate to balance the budget, the will of the people, never actually materialized.

00:05:19.000 Because the people that don't believe anything in D.C., like John Boehner, all John Boehner believes in is how much Merlot he can drink before noon.

00:05:29.000 I think he and Nancy Pelosi have a competition of who the drunkest speaker was in the modern era.

00:05:35.000 They used the energy of the grassroots to make themselves important, to make themselves powerful, almost like political holograms.

00:05:46.000 You would think that after the election of Donald Trump, the people in D.C. realized that the grassroots are gaining in strength.

00:05:55.000 The Republican Party was changing.

00:05:57.000 It was becoming a pardoned party of plumbers, electricians, welders, the muscular class.

00:06:04.000 Eric Cantor being displaced was one of the most amazing political upsets in history.

00:06:10.000 And what happened this last weekend with the continuing resolution and the motion to vacate is just another chapter in the book that will be written of Republicans that don't listen to their voters.

00:06:26.000 We've been warning about this for quite some time.

00:06:30.000 That the base of the party has been taken for granted.

00:06:35.000 That the base of the party has, for quite some time, been asking for some very simple things.

00:06:44.000 Now, mind you, when you talk to some of the more moderate Republicans, they'll say the base wants unrealistic stuff.

00:06:51.000 And that is not true.

00:06:53.000 It's a very simple ask.

00:06:56.000 Can we have a border?

00:06:57.000 Can we have a balanced budget?

00:06:59.000 And can we not have shock troops, aka, the KGB running our law enforcement?

00:07:07.000 If you go to every grassroots conservative across the country and you say, how about those three things?

00:07:13.000 They will enthusiastically take that deal.

00:07:16.000 They'll say, yes, I would love to have a sovereign country.

00:07:20.000 I would love to not have a $2 trillion deficit.

00:07:25.000 And I would be thrilled if the Department of Justice could for once be reined in from its terror campaign against the American right.

00:07:35.000 Just yesterday, the FBI came out and they said they have an entire division dedicated just going after MAGA voters coming into the 2024 election.

00:07:46.000 Not an exaggeration, not hyperbole.

00:07:50.000 13 years ago, the Tea Party movement took over Washington, D.C. Some of you in the audience might not have even been that engaged in politics.

00:07:59.000 Some of you might have just recently got involved because of Donald Trump.

00:08:03.000 For those of us that were aware and engaged, I was just getting my start.

00:08:06.000 I remember it vividly.

00:08:07.000 When the Tea Party took over Washington, D.C., it sent shockwaves because business as usual was being interrupted.

00:08:16.000 They did not want crony insider deals with Barack Obama and John Boehner.

00:08:21.000 They wanted that to change.

00:08:24.000 Donald Trump was a vessel to try to change so much of that in 2016, large in part why he won.

00:08:30.000 And so here we look at the landscape.

00:08:32.000 We are without a speaker.

00:08:33.000 This actually should not surprise us.

00:08:36.000 If you take a step back, as a historian would, and you paint the picture, you write the story from Barack Obama becoming president in 2008 and ramming through Obamacare and ramming through major debts and deficits and ramming through the stimulus through a smug, elitist, I want to transform the country to the American people with a resounding message after that.

00:09:01.000 In 2010, 13 years later, grassroots patriots are saying, We have sent message after message, and we have a country that is poorer, and our very simple demands are not being met.

00:09:18.000 But we're told, just wait to the next election, just wait to the next iteration.

00:09:24.000 In reality, when you look at this over a multi-decade view, this makes sense.

00:09:30.000 This is not some sort of one-off thing or some sort of rabble-rouser.

00:09:36.000 No, it's the people that are pleading, that are saying, You in charge, will you represent me and not terrorize me?

00:09:49.000 Start giving me a voice, whether it be now Eric Cantor, Paul Ryan not running for reelection, and the motion to vacate.

00:09:57.000 These are all elements of the same story, which is there's only so much the Republican base will take until they remove you.

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00:11:59.000 You look at the Democrat Party, it's a completely different organism than the Republican Party.

00:12:07.000 The Democrat Party is top-down.

00:12:09.000 It's a pullet bureau.

00:12:10.000 The voters of the Democrat Party, they're not exactly bright, but they are happy with what they're getting.

00:12:17.000 Say what you will about the Democrat Party is they do fulfill what their base wants.

00:12:23.000 Their base wants Donald Trump in federal prison.

00:12:25.000 They're getting that.

00:12:26.000 They want open borders.

00:12:27.000 They want the most radical trans stuff. 0.89

00:12:30.000 I am, quite honestly, envious of how in touch the Democrat Party is with their voters.

00:12:38.000 The Democrat Party, they ignore some of the most radical fringe elements of the base, but they are trying to eliminate the Electoral College.

00:12:46.000 They are trying to make DC and Puerto Rico states.

00:12:50.000 Isn't it fascinating how the Republican Party is always the one compromising with Democrats, but Democrats are never the ones that are compromising with Republicans?

00:13:04.000 That we're the ones that are always trying to make bipartisanship happen, try to make a common deal.

00:13:09.000 Yet Chuck Schumer doesn't move an inch when it comes to a single priority of the Republican Party or the conservative base.

00:13:18.000 I would not want to be in the Democrat Party. 0.97

00:13:20.000 They are nasty. 0.93

00:13:21.000 There's no room for disagreement.

00:13:24.000 On the other hand, at times you look at what we have on the Republican side and you have to call it a beautiful mess.

00:13:31.000 That's what we have right now.

00:13:33.000 We have a beautiful mess.

00:13:35.000 Breaking yesterday, there was a Republican conference meeting that resulted in members nearly coming to blows with one another.

00:13:45.000 Honestly, it's a long time coming. 0.98

00:13:49.000 It is ridiculous. 0.93

00:13:51.000 Calm down. 0.96

00:13:52.000 This is not the UFC, but I'm not surprised by any of this.

00:13:57.000 It's about to get, as Thomas Hobbes wrote in the Leviathan, nasty, brutish, and short.

00:14:07.000 In the English Civil War, it's happening right now in the Republican Party. 0.97

00:14:12.000 I don't rejoice in that, but honestly, they've delayed this darn thing for a decade. 0.85

00:14:19.000 They have hoped and punted and filibustered and extended. 0.95

00:14:25.000 This is a long time coming.

00:14:28.000 And let's get it settled, honestly.

00:14:31.000 Calm down.

00:14:32.000 Don't punch each other.

00:14:34.000 I could just imagine you got bowtie guy, you know, running across the table, looking to go choke out Matt Gates.

00:14:40.000 Like, calm down, pals.

00:14:42.000 But I'm not shocked by this in the least because any Republican in that conference meeting that has integrity, like Ana Paulina Luna, Byron Donalds, they're saying, whoa, How about the voters?

00:14:42.000 All right.

00:15:01.000 And then you probably have someone that's super moderate, like Dusty Johnson, says, well, who cares about them?

00:15:08.000 And so really, what's happening here in the Republican conference in the Republican House is a necessary feud.

00:15:19.000 It's necessary.

00:15:20.000 I hope it doesn't last very long.

00:15:22.000 I hope it lasts briefly, unlike the English Civil War. 0.89

00:15:26.000 We just keep on killing generation of generation and generation.

00:15:30.000 It is disturbing, but it's necessary, and I hope it's brief.

00:15:34.000 I know many of you probably hate it.

00:15:36.000 You're looking at this.

00:15:37.000 You say, oh, my goodness, keep the focus on Biden.

00:15:39.000 I agree.

00:15:40.000 I agree.

00:15:40.000 But why is this happening?

00:15:42.000 It's because our leaders keep on cutting deals with Biden.

00:15:46.000 It's because our leaders keep on selling us out.

00:15:49.000 And so we need someone that can then unite the clans, make this tribal warfare come to an end because it's going to get nasty. 0.92

00:16:00.000 I'm going to play some pieces of tape just to show you the revenge that the regime is now exacting on those eight is going to be tough, tough to watch.

00:16:16.000 You think that people that spend a decade trying to get in power in Washington, D.C. are just going to forgive when they are humiliated like that?

00:16:30.000 And I'm not just talking about Speaker McCarthy.

00:16:33.000 I'm talking about all of the allies.

00:16:35.000 You think they're going to be like, you know, Matt, you got one on us.

00:16:40.000 Good job.

00:16:42.000 I'm going to go serve in mission work in Kenya.

00:16:48.000 Yeah.

00:16:49.000 It is the ultimate kind of Star Wars empire strikes back.

00:16:54.000 And I'm going to show some evidence of this.

00:16:56.000 And while we want this Civil War to be brief, what has now been launched, and you just have to understand, is it's going to be the new normal of the tribes of the Republican Party that will be at each other's throats for a generation.

00:17:14.000 Let it be brief is my prayer.

00:17:16.000 I'm going to try to negotiate a settlement here.

00:17:19.000 But boy, this will make the English Civil War look like child's play.

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00:18:27.000 The Republican Civil War is underway and it's been a long time coming.

00:18:31.000 Is this the ideal time?

00:18:33.000 Far from the ideal time.

00:18:35.000 So get it out of your system, guys.

00:18:37.000 Figure it out.

00:18:38.000 And you have many different tribes.

00:18:40.000 You have an immovable out of 150 moderates.

00:18:43.000 And out of those 150 moderates, I would say 50 have a legitimate argument that they have to be careful, meaning that they're in districts that are not exactly MAGA districts.

00:18:56.000 100 of them are just lying to their voters that are in very conservative districts, but they act as moderates in D.C. 50 of them.

00:19:04.000 I get it.

00:19:04.000 If you're in a Democrat district, you have to be careful.

00:19:09.000 Listen to your voters, fulfill the mandate.

00:19:11.000 What bothers me is the other 100 that do not do that.

00:19:15.000 So let me just give you a little taste.

00:19:16.000 This is just the beginning.

00:19:18.000 I don't like playing this piece of tape.

00:19:19.000 It's hearsay.

00:19:20.000 It's rumor mill.

00:19:22.000 It's like, it's just stuff you'll see on the tabloids.

00:19:24.000 But this is a shot across the bow.

00:19:26.000 This is a U.S. senator who is obviously now being dispatched to go after Matt Gates.

00:19:33.000 I'm just giving you an idea of what's about to happen.

00:19:35.000 We warned about this.

00:19:37.000 The Empire striking back.

00:19:38.000 There will be articles.

00:19:40.000 There will be investigations.

00:19:42.000 They're going to come after people's personal life.

00:19:44.000 It is going to get so scorched earth, scorched earth.

00:19:50.000 The regime is going Dresden on MAGA right now.

00:19:54.000 We talked about this yesterday.

00:19:56.000 Newt was the warning. 0.98

00:19:57.000 They're traitors. 0.99

00:19:58.000 They're all this. 0.95

00:19:59.000 We came out against Newt, and we said we think he's wrong.

00:20:03.000 But let me just kind of show you a little taste, and they're not hiding it.

00:20:07.000 This is just one example of hundreds I could play.

00:20:10.000 This is Senator Markway Mullen going after Matt Gates, shot across the bow, play cut 70.

00:20:17.000 You got to think about this guy.

00:20:19.000 This is a guy that didn't have, the media didn't give a time of day to after he was accused of sleeping with an underage girl.

00:20:26.000 And there's a reason why no one in the conference came and defended him because we had all seen the videos he was showing on the House floor that all of us had walked away of the girls that he had slept with.

00:20:36.000 He'd brag about how he would crush ED medicine and chase it with an energy drink so he could go all night.

00:20:44.000 This is obviously before he got married.

00:20:46.000 And so when that accusation came out, no one defended him.

00:20:49.000 And then no one on the media would give him a time of the day.

00:20:51.000 All of a sudden, he found fame because he opposed the speaker of the house.

00:20:56.000 So I don't know, Senator Mullen.

00:20:58.000 I'm told he's a solid guy.

00:21:00.000 I don't know.

00:21:01.000 But it's very obvious that someone just handed him a piece of paper with opposition research.

00:21:05.000 Let me tell you how this works.

00:21:06.000 Okay.

00:21:07.000 Matt Gates was the dog that caught the car.

00:21:11.000 Okay.

00:21:11.000 And by the way, doing this in public as a U.S. Senator is wild.

00:21:14.000 It's crazy. 0.97

00:21:15.000 It's nuts, but it's predictable.

00:21:17.000 Okay.

00:21:17.000 I'm just telling you, the audience in real time what's happening here.

00:21:21.000 So somebody gave Senator Mullen all the opo on Matt, and it's not going to stop.

00:21:27.000 They're going to go after Matt.

00:21:28.000 They're going to go after Bob Good.

00:21:29.000 They're going to go after Nancy Mace.

00:21:31.000 And it's significantly jeopardizing whether or not we're going to keep the House in 2025, significantly.

00:21:39.000 This whole thing, if we don't get this settled quickly, you have to raise $300 million minimum.

00:21:45.000 Right now, Hakeem Jeffries is cleaning up.

00:21:48.000 And here is a, here's an uncomfortable truth.

00:21:51.000 In order to win the House, you have to raise money from a lot of different corporate actors.

00:21:58.000 Right now, the corporate actors are going all in on the Democrats.

00:22:01.000 And you might say, that's great.

00:22:03.000 That's good.

00:22:03.000 Yeah, principally, that's really good.

00:22:05.000 We don't have the money to compete, everybody.

00:22:07.000 We don't.

00:22:08.000 The Republican base is poorer than ever.

00:22:10.000 Small dollar donations are drying up.

00:22:13.000 They've dried up.

00:22:14.000 It's evaporated.

00:22:15.000 And so you have to get the resources to compete.

00:22:18.000 And I got in a debate yesterday with somebody.

00:22:19.000 They said, oh, Charlie, we don't need the money to win.

00:22:21.000 You're wrong.

00:22:22.000 You're just wrong.

00:22:22.000 I'm sorry.

00:22:23.000 You're wrong.

00:22:24.000 In these swing districts, in North Atlanta, in the suburbs of Chicago, you need to get on TV.

00:22:30.000 You need to.

00:22:30.000 You're going to get run over by the Democrats.

00:22:32.000 They're going to run negative on you.

00:22:33.000 They're going to make it seem terrible.

00:22:35.000 You have to be able to compete.

00:22:36.000 You need $300 million.

00:22:39.000 And some people say, oh, Charlie, I don't care if we keep the House. 0.98

00:22:42.000 That's foolish. 0.96

00:22:42.000 I'll be honest. 0.96

00:22:43.000 That is foolish. 1.00

00:22:44.000 For no other reason than to stop the idiocy, the nonsense, the garbage, the trash that they're trying to force feed to our country. 1.00

00:22:50.000 Not to mention the investigative stuff, the oversight stuff. 0.99

00:22:53.000 And we're finally moving in the right direction of having single bill appropriation bills.

00:22:57.000 Okay.

00:22:57.000 So, you know, looking at the forest from the trees, we cannot all of a sudden have this long, drawn-out battle.

00:23:05.000 It's already happening.

00:23:06.000 It's not a matter of, it needs to be fierce but brief and represent your voters.

00:23:12.000 But understand that there's elements of this where Hakeem Jeffries and the Democrats, they are cleaning up.

00:23:18.000 They're raising record amounts of money and they're going to come into these districts and they're going to obliterate us.

00:23:23.000 And I don't like the I Told You So stuff, but I'm going to tell you what the I Told You So is, that when Speaker of the House becomes Hakeem Jeffries in January 2025 and his first act of business is pollut bureau committees that actually authorize subpoenas against the entire American right.

00:23:37.000 They abolish Electoral College, get rid of DC of Puerto Rico estates.

00:23:41.000 And regardless of the president, they'll just impeach Trump on the first day.

00:23:44.000 We'll be like, oh, wow, how did this happen?

00:23:46.000 Like, we're dealing with maggots, vermin, and swine here.

00:23:49.000 This is not, these are not good people.

00:23:51.000 They're not even a little bit good.

00:23:53.000 They are coming after our throats.

00:23:56.000 And I'm not saying, look, it's not a matter of looking back, right?

00:24:00.000 We need to have, hey, hey, hey, guys, fine.

00:24:02.000 Fight amongst yourselves.

00:24:03.000 UFC, put, you know, pay-per-view, you know, bowtie man and, you know, Crenshaw, go after Byron Donalds and Chip Roy.

00:24:09.000 My money's on Byron Donald's, by the way, but that's a separate issue.

00:24:12.000 You guys can go fight, televise it, pay-per-view.

00:24:14.000 Maybe you could raise money that way, right?

00:24:16.000 Republican Party's looking to raise some money.

00:24:17.000 Have a pay-per-view fight.

00:24:19.000 Crenshaw v. Donald's.

00:24:20.000 I'll pay for that, right?

00:24:21.000 50 bucks, have Dana White come in, UFC, Octagon, put it in Congress, right? 1.00

00:24:25.000 Pay-per-view viewing, probably raise a couple million bucks and make up the delta that we need.

00:24:29.000 I'm not even kidding.

00:24:30.000 At this point, we need every creative idea that we possibly can.

00:24:33.000 That's fine.

00:24:34.000 Don't let your emotions get the best of you.

00:24:36.000 Monday, this has got to be over.

00:24:38.000 Got to be over.

00:24:38.000 We need a speaker.

00:24:39.000 I think that speaker should be Jim Jordan.

00:24:41.000 We've got to start raising the money and getting in the district.

00:24:43.000 So let me tell you what's happening.

00:24:45.000 There are 30 to 40 swing districts, okay?

00:24:48.000 For example, you know, Siscomani's district here in Arizona, CD1 in Arizona, which encompasses Scottsdale, Cave Creek, all the way to the 51.

00:24:55.000 Meyer Flores' district.

00:24:57.000 And right now, so, you know, I live in the Phoenix metro area.

00:25:02.000 David Schweikert's my congressman.

00:25:04.000 Right now, you know, I watch football.

00:25:06.000 It's one of my indulgences.

00:25:09.000 I'd say about 15 attack ads per afternoon on David Schweikert.

00:25:12.000 There's not one, not one defending him.

00:25:15.000 Relentless.

00:25:16.000 Jeff Fries is already deploying the money.

00:25:18.000 And I see it.

00:25:18.000 They're trying to take over CD1, which is a way that they win back the House.

00:25:22.000 Congressional District 1 here in Arizona.

00:25:24.000 And there's not a single ad defending Schweikert.

00:25:27.000 Schweikert did this and Schweikert did that and Schweikert did a negative, negative, negative, negative.

00:25:30.000 They bring down his favorables.

00:25:31.000 So the Democrats, I see it firsthand.

00:25:33.000 They're already deploying this money.

00:25:35.000 They're deploying it.

00:25:37.000 And so I understand the tribal rage.

00:25:39.000 I understand the betrayal of voters and all that.

00:25:41.000 But this has to be very short.

00:25:42.000 It's got to be brief.

00:25:43.000 Got to find a leader, raise the capital, defend our majority.

00:25:47.000 Have to.

00:25:48.000 And I'm going to challenge people that say, Charlie, what's good if they keep on betraying us?

00:25:52.000 The Democrats understand that political power is the way that you're able to get your principles into action.

00:26:00.000 If you do not have political power, then you're nothing more than an op-ed writer or a radio host, which is fine.

00:26:06.000 There's a place for that.

00:26:07.000 But look at California.

00:26:09.000 You do not take political power seriously.

00:26:11.000 It becomes a one-party state.

00:26:12.000 They change all the laws and you're displaced for a generation.

00:26:15.000 We have a window and an opportunity where we still control the chamber.

00:26:18.000 By the way, the only thing in D.C. that we control, might I remind you, we don't control the Senate.

00:26:22.000 We don't control the White House.

00:26:24.000 We don't control the bureaucracies.

00:26:25.000 We have a three to four seat majority in the House.

00:26:27.000 And by the way, breaking news this morning, bad news, some errant judge in the deep South just put out another press release, not press release, a judgment.

00:26:36.000 They changed the maps in Alabama.

00:26:38.000 We're losing a seat in Alabama.

00:26:39.000 So that's already down one.

00:26:42.000 They're pouring tons of money into the swing districts that we won in Arizona, pouring tons of money into that Colorado district that Ken Buck currently occupies.

00:26:51.000 They're trying to take out Lauren Boebert, who won by like four or five hundred votes.

00:26:55.000 And so you look at the map, which is what we do, right, at turning point action.

00:26:59.000 And it's almost at this point, I'd say an 80 to 90% chance that we lose the House.

00:27:04.000 The only thing that could save us is a Donald Trump campaign that sweeps the nation, brings out all these new voters and completely and totally changes the game.

00:27:12.000 And we're able to raise that $300 million.

00:27:15.000 And understand, the candidate recruitment side of this is not insignificant.

00:27:20.000 You can say whatever you want about Kevin McCarthy.

00:27:22.000 Our audience is not a fan of it.

00:27:23.000 I've known him for years.

00:27:24.000 I disagree with him on the CR thing.

00:27:25.000 I don't like the Ukraine stuff.

00:27:27.000 But Kevin, to his credit, he raised a ton of money that allowed us to take back the majority.

00:27:33.000 And you might think that's easy.

00:27:34.000 It's not easy.

00:27:35.000 It takes a lot of work.

00:27:36.000 It takes a lot of hustle.

00:27:38.000 So, all that to be said, which is you want to save the country, preventing Hakeem Jeffries from becoming the Speaker of the House is very, very, very important.

00:27:47.000 And I was talking to Bannon yesterday, and he agrees.

00:27:50.000 He's like, Charlie, the 300 million is a big problem.

00:27:53.000 And we're on the same page, 100%.

00:27:54.000 Like, that has to be a factor here.

00:27:56.000 That every day that we are raging at one another, every day that we're at each other's throats, every day we're trying to do, you know, the Dana White thing is a day that we are not raising the capital.

00:28:05.000 And again, this is strategy, tactics, principles.

00:28:08.000 You have to make sure they're all in harmony.

00:28:10.000 And sometimes we just kind of overlook the strategy and the tactics.

00:28:13.000 And I'm here as someone who raises money for a living, someone who does this in the grassroots.

00:28:17.000 We're getting pummeled right now.

00:28:18.000 We are getting destroyed.

00:28:20.000 30,000-foot view.

00:28:22.000 And if the strategy is, Charlie, who cares?

00:28:23.000 We're never going to win the house again.

00:28:25.000 You know, let's get drunk on our own power with the last 15 months we have. 0.98

00:28:29.000 I think that is so irresponsible and foolish. 0.82

00:28:31.000 I don't want to be part of a movement with you. 0.99

00:28:33.000 If you're like, I don't care who cares, we control the house.

00:28:36.000 I don't care if we control it again.

00:28:37.000 That is imprudent.

00:28:38.000 That is emotional driven.

00:28:40.000 And that is not responsible.

00:28:42.000 So you have to balance the immediate necessary short-term fight with preventing Hakeem Jeffries from becoming Speaker of the House in 2025, who would literally execute a blitz-krieg campaign against the American right and shred the United States Constitution.

00:28:55.000 Hakeem Jeffries' number one goal would be to put this thing through a shredder.

00:28:59.000 I'm holding a turning point USA Constitution.

00:29:02.000 And I think Jim Jordan is the guy who could raise the money.

00:29:04.000 He has the energy.

00:29:05.000 Unite the tribes.

00:29:06.000 He's conservative.

00:29:07.000 He's rock solid and get us to be able to compete so that Hakeem Jeffries doesn't become Speaker of the House.

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00:30:12.000 Someone says, Charlie, you sound like the conventional country club Republican.

00:30:15.000 All we need is to raise capital and get out the vote.

00:30:17.000 You're the one that's being irresponsible for millions of millions of dollars less, the Republican can send out well-thought mailers stating the horribleness of the Democrat-run country.

00:30:27.000 I'm disappointed in you.

00:30:28.000 Ken, Ken, I got to be honest, that's not exactly how politics work.

00:30:31.000 Okay.

00:30:32.000 So we are not going, if things continue as is, we're already getting outspent 10 to 1.

00:30:37.000 Laureen Powell Jobs, Mackenzie Bezos, Reid Hoffman, and all that. 0.74

00:30:41.000 If we do not have a speaker that can go and raise the money to go help us in competitive districts, mailers do not move the dial.

00:30:48.000 You have to be on TV.

00:30:50.000 You have to have GO TV.

00:30:51.000 You have to have ballot chasing.

00:30:52.000 This is not exactly something people want to hear.

00:30:55.000 But I could tell you, we wonder why the 2022 midterms was not what we wanted to be.

00:30:59.000 We got so significantly outspent and we got not just outspent, they spent the money better than we did.

00:31:06.000 So understand that we are in a completely different set of affairs here, completely set of affairs.

00:31:12.000 Somebody says, Charlie, what do we get?

00:31:13.000 So McCarthy raised a lot of money for the 170 sellouts.

00:31:15.000 What did that get us?

00:31:16.000 Yeah, again, the uncomfortable truth is you didn't get, you did not get the abolition of the Electoral College.

00:31:23.000 And if that's not good enough for you, then that's tough.

00:31:26.000 I'm not saying it's something to rejoice in.

00:31:28.000 I'm so the border's wide open.

00:31:30.000 We're still funding Ukraine.

00:31:31.000 We have trans surgeries for kids, all that.

00:31:34.000 It is, it's easy to get frustrated and overturn the table.

00:31:38.000 I know that.

00:31:40.000 But if that's the strategy, the Democrats, once they take power, they may never, ever lose it.

00:31:46.000 Okay, let's go to another piece of tape here.

00:31:50.000 Let's go to Cut 53.

00:31:52.000 Where do things stand right now?

00:31:53.000 If not, McCarthy, then who?

00:31:55.000 Well, you know, the stages of grief, I think, are in progress right now with some of my colleagues.

00:32:00.000 I think there was a stage of denial, and I've certainly experienced a good amount of their anger.

00:32:04.000 And now we appear to be headed toward bargaining.

00:32:06.000 I think the world of Steve Scalise, I think you'd make a phenomenal speaker.

00:32:10.000 No, I don't think that Steve Scalise would be a great speaker.

00:32:14.000 Jim Jordan would be a far better speaker.

00:32:15.000 Steve Scalise is more of a moderate and even more transactional than Kevin McCarthy.

00:32:21.000 So just be very, be on guard with that.

00:32:24.000 Steve Scalise is Mr. Establishment.

00:32:27.000 Mr. Establishment.

00:32:29.000 And this is something that needs to be said.

00:32:33.000 Steve Scalise is a hero.

00:32:35.000 He was shot at.

00:32:36.000 He survived.

00:32:38.000 And it's unbelievable what he had to be.

00:32:40.000 He's a patriot beyond measure.

00:32:42.000 He's also actively fighting cancer.

00:32:44.000 I mean, come on.

00:32:45.000 How many hits does this guy need to have, right?

00:32:48.000 And so I'm not against him as a person, but he's actively fighting a very, very life-threatening disease.

00:32:58.000 And I think that he should have space to heal.

00:33:01.000 This is tough.

00:33:02.000 This job is not, this is 20 hours a day, 330 days on the road, raising $300 million, and the whole media wants to murder you.

00:33:11.000 This is not just some ceremonial thing.

00:33:13.000 So that has to factor in.

00:33:15.000 But as far as Scalise is a person, I have nothing but amazing things to say about him. 0.66

00:33:19.000 The Democrats try to kill him, literally.

00:33:21.000 The Democrats tried to murder him.

00:33:25.000 It's amazing how we forget that story, isn't it?

00:33:27.000 They started shooting at him.

00:33:29.000 The Civil War is underway.

00:33:31.000 It's going to get very, very nasty.

00:33:32.000 My role is going to try to say, okay, let's get clarity in what we believe.

00:33:36.000 Let's get understanding of our core promises to our voters.

00:33:42.000 Let's make sure that we are able to identify the objective and do our best to keep the House in 2025.

00:33:54.000 What does success look like?

00:33:55.000 The majority of our audience is saying we don't care about keeping the house in 2025.

00:34:00.000 I will die on this hill.

00:34:02.000 That is a bad idea.

00:34:03.000 Respectfully, you're allowing your emotions to get the best of you.

00:34:06.000 That is not the right approach.

00:34:09.000 Okay?

00:34:09.000 Not the right approach.

00:34:11.000 The House is dreadfully disappointing in some ways.

00:34:15.000 It can get even worse.

00:34:17.000 The 20th century taught us anything.

00:34:18.000 If you think it's bad, it can get a lot worse.

00:34:21.000 Okay?

00:34:22.000 Let's get to single subject appropriation bills.

00:34:24.000 Let's get impeachment of Joe Biden.

00:34:26.000 Let's get Jack Smith under control.

00:34:29.000 Let's get the border secure and get towards a pathway of a balanced budget and use leverage.

00:34:35.000 These are very simple asks, very simple requests, while simultaneously raising the capital necessary, recruit the candidates that can excite in the districts so that we can continue to have the House of Representatives in 2025.

00:34:50.000 And if you, like me, are putting everything that you have into Donald Trump becoming president, wouldn't you want him to be able to work with a Republican House, not fight with Hakeem Jeffries?

00:35:00.000 For that answer alone, it's worth taking what I'm saying seriously.

00:35:07.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:35:08.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:35:12.000 Thank you so much for listening, and God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - October 05, 2023

Who Will Be the Next Speaker?

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