The Charlie Kirk Show - Why Matt Gaetz Is Trump's Most Important Cabinet Pick

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00:01:49.000 Joining us now is one of the best we have in the U.S. Senate, Senator Ron Johnson.

00:01:55.000 Senator, welcome to the program.

00:01:56.000 Senator, I first want to talk about the election.

00:01:59.000 President Trump won the state of Wisconsin nearly by as much as you won your re-election, by the way.

00:02:04.000 It was almost the exact same number.

00:02:06.000 I was looking at it the other day.

00:02:08.000 Unfortunately, Eric Hovde fell short, and there is definitely some unusual activity with late-night ballot dumping in Milwaukee.

00:02:19.000 What is your reaction to the Eric Hovde race?

00:02:22.000 It looked as if he was trending great and then Milwaukee did what Milwaukee does.

00:02:27.000 Your reaction, Senator Johnson?

00:02:28.000 Well, first of all, that Tuesday night was triumphant when Wisconsin sank the putt that won the President's Cup for President Trump.

00:02:35.000 So it was a lot of fun being there on the ground.

00:02:37.000 We're the ones that put him over the top.

00:02:38.000 And we were very hopeful with Eric Hovde.

00:02:41.000 The difference is President Trump was up by enough votes to withstand the ballot dump from Milwaukee Central Count.

00:02:50.000 Now, what I can say is, you know, when we came into the election night party there with all the data folks, I got there and we found out that Central Count had not secured the tabulator machines.

00:03:03.000 There's a door in the back.

00:03:05.000 It's supposed to be locked and sealed.

00:03:07.000 There was no procedure to make sure that happened.

00:03:09.000 So 2 o'clock in the afternoon, a Republican election observer observed that.

00:03:14.000 They stopped the counting.

00:03:15.000 They'd already tabulated 30,000 ballots.

00:03:17.000 They segregated those. 0.92

00:03:19.000 So myself and the chairman of the Republican Party of Wisconsin went down there, talked to RNC lawyers, to our election observers, got a handle on what the situation was.

00:03:29.000 We knew that as a result of that, it was going to take them longer and they were going to have a late night ballot dump.

00:03:34.000 But I will say that our observers were very confident that the count was going to be accurate.

00:03:41.000 What was feeding into this is the head of the Democrat Party of Wisconsin the day before had been on MSNBC saying that we're going to see this red mirage early in the evening, then early in the morning, We're going to overtake him, the blue wave.

00:03:56.000 It's just like you couldn't say something that reduced confidence in the election more than he did.

00:04:02.000 Plus, we had slow counts in, I think, Racine and Green Bay.

00:04:05.000 So it just creates suspicion.

00:04:09.000 Again, I think it was an accurate count.

00:04:11.000 I think in the end, Eric Hovde realized we could rerun the ballots.

00:04:15.000 You're going to get the same count.

00:04:16.000 The concern in Wisconsin is how many illegitimate votes are there.

00:04:21.000 Were there illegal aliens?

00:04:23.000 Have the Democrats developed a system for registering voters that either don't exist Or voting for people that never vote.

00:04:31.000 We don't have a handle on that.

00:04:33.000 And in order to challenge somebody, you've got to do it individually.

00:04:37.000 Individual registration by individual registration.

00:04:39.000 It's almost impossible to do.

00:04:41.000 So what we need to do is we need to do a post-election audit.

00:04:45.000 I would love to have RNC lawyers pay attention to this because, Charlie, we've got a crucial...

00:04:51.000 Wisconsin Supreme Court election here in April that we must win.

00:04:55.000 If we don't, the court is forever, in my lifetime, probably going to be led by radical left judicial activists, and we may never have an opportunity to win the 10 electoral votes in Wisconsin again or ever get a U.S. Senate seat.

00:05:09.000 So it's crucial we understand what happened.

00:05:12.000 We have wards that are voting at more than 100% versus registered voters, but we have same-day registration.

00:05:19.000 So it's entirely possible, but we just never do the post-election audits in detail to determine, okay, these are the people that voted.

00:05:27.000 Is it a legitimate vote or not?

00:05:29.000 When I entered politics in 2010, the basic meme was, well, every Republican candidate is going to start at an X percent disadvantage because Democrats cheat.

00:05:40.000 It's just like kind of an accepted reality.

00:05:44.000 I don't know what that percentage is.

00:05:46.000 I'm not sure that's true.

00:05:47.000 But what I do know is we need to audit the results in a We need to be dedicated to auditing these results because it never happens.

00:05:54.000 Once the election's done, it's certified and people move on.

00:05:57.000 And let's face it, for the political consultants, there's no money in auditing these results.

00:06:02.000 So we need to do that.

00:06:04.000 Yeah, so just two points here that I think is really important, Senator.

00:06:08.000 The first of which is that I don't doubt that if we do a recount, the results would be nearly the same.

00:06:15.000 The point of which is who filled out these ballots and what was the chain of custody.

00:06:20.000 Can you elaborate on that, Senator?

00:06:21.000 Because a recount is just recounting the actual ballots in the system.

00:06:25.000 The question is where did they come from and was the person who is actually assigned to that ballot the designee, the person who filled it out?

00:06:34.000 Right.

00:06:35.000 So the chain of custody, once those absolute ballots are received, we're pretty confident of that.

00:06:40.000 Again, we've got observers there.

00:06:42.000 It worked in 2022.

00:06:43.000 Again, the hiccup here was they didn't have the back of those tabulators sealed, so they had to start the process all over again.

00:06:51.000 I made sure that they maintained the record of the 30,000 ballots to make sure those counts would be accurate.

00:06:55.000 We haven't seen the results of that.

00:06:56.000 But again, in the end, our observers believed that that was an accurate count and those ballots were accounted for.

00:07:02.000 What we don't know is the person who filled out that APC ballot, is that a legitimate voter?

00:07:08.000 Is that an illegal alien using a driver's license? 0.98

00:07:11.000 In Wisconsin, you can't really distinguish whether that's a citizen or not a citizen when they use that driver's license to register to vote.

00:07:19.000 So that's the unknown.

00:07:20.000 That's the thing that's very difficult to determine either before or after election.

00:07:25.000 That's why we need to do a pretty detailed audit of these wards and take a look at it.

00:07:31.000 Who are the people that registered on the same day?

00:07:33.000 Are those legitimate voters?

00:07:34.000 And Charlie, you have to do that pretty fast because people move.

00:07:37.000 So again, this is very difficult to really audit, really difficult to understand the truth, which is why, in the end, you can commit fraud and not get caught.

00:07:47.000 Let's play cut 34.

00:07:48.000 This is Eric Hovde describing some of this.

00:07:50.000 Let's play cut 34.

00:07:51.000 Like many of my supporters, I was shocked by what unfolded on election night.

00:07:57.000 At 1 a.m., I was receiving calls of congratulations, and based on the models, it appeared I would win the Senate race.

00:08:05.000 Then at 4 a.m., Milwaukee reported approximately 108,000 absentee ballots, with Senator Baldwin receiving nearly 90% of those ballots.

00:08:17.000 Statistically, this outcome seems improbable.

00:08:20.000 And so, just any other further comment on that, Senator?

00:08:24.000 Well, again, we knew the number of those ballots early in the evening.

00:08:29.000 It was 108,000 votes.

00:08:30.000 Actually, I think at the start of the day, the news was 108,000 absentee ballots they were going to process.

00:08:34.000 So it wasn't like those were mystery ballots.

00:08:36.000 And this is central Milwaukee, and you're going to get a very high percentage of those ballots going for the Democrat candidate.

00:08:43.000 So again, that wasn't a surprise to me.

00:08:45.000 What you need to do in Wisconsin is just true, which is why Ben Winkler can predict that you're going to have a lead and that it's going to be You know, eaten into once Milwaukee Central County gets reported, you just need to build up enough lead.

00:08:58.000 I think President Trump was leading by 125,000 votes, so when that ballot dump occurred, again, those are the right number of ballots.

00:09:05.000 We had, you know, the chain of custody on those things.

00:09:07.000 He was able to survive that dump.

00:09:10.000 Eric Hoverty was just trailing him by about 60,000 votes, and he couldn't survive that onslaught of Democrat votes.

00:09:19.000 Senator, can you just reiterate what you mentioned?

00:09:21.000 Because I think it's very important because we will be doing multiple visits and spending serious money for the Wisconsin Supreme Court seat this spring.

00:09:30.000 Democrats typically are able to win these one-off elections.

00:09:35.000 What, again, is the significance of holding on to or at least winning the Supreme Court seat?

00:09:40.000 If the Democrats have a permanent majority of leftists on that court, they'll redistrict, we'll probably lose House seats, and they'll set up the system where it's going to be very difficult to win electoral votes.

00:09:51.000 So it's crucial.

00:09:52.000 It's ground game, ground game, ground game.

00:09:54.000 Like your organization helped turn us out.

00:09:56.000 It's knocking on doors.

00:09:58.000 Again, there's no money in the consultants for ground game.

00:10:01.000 They like spending ads.

00:10:02.000 We need to spend money on an even more robust ground game.

00:10:06.000 Because last spring election, when we lost that Supreme Court race, Dan Kelly only got 800,000 votes.

00:10:12.000 In an off-year election, Walker and I got 1.2 to 1.3.

00:10:15.000 There's no reason why we can't turn out 1.2, 1.3, which would have overcome the million votes that the Democrat Supreme Court justice got last April.

00:10:23.000 So it's ground game, ground game, ground game.

00:10:26.000 That's how we win.

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00:11:40.000 Well, I think elections matter, and I think presidents ought to be able to fill out their administrations with the people that they want to serve in the administration.

00:11:47.000 So my bias is always going to be to support President Trump's selections.

00:11:51.000 We've got a confirmation process.

00:11:53.000 Unless there's something incredibly disqualifying, I'm going to support his nominations.

00:11:57.000 I'm thrilled to hear that.

00:11:59.000 Thank you, Senator.

00:12:00.000 And so what can we do?

00:12:02.000 Because you were back there in 2016, 2017.

00:12:04.000 What can be done to make sure that we have more urgency to be able to fill the cabinet?

00:12:10.000 Back in 16 or 17, it took us nearly two years to get President Trump a full cabinet.

00:12:16.000 Do you feel as if it will be better this time around?

00:12:18.000 And if so, why?

00:12:19.000 Well, I think there will be pressure on Senator Thune to make sure that we expeditiously handle these through regular order.

00:12:26.000 I think it will all depend on how much of a backlog do we have.

00:12:30.000 Again, it takes time to even nominate people.

00:12:33.000 If the backlog builds, I really don't have a problem with recess appointments from my standpoint.

00:12:40.000 I think the confirmation process has gotten completely out of control.

00:12:45.000 1,200 plus, 1,400 individuals have to be confirmed.

00:12:49.000 That is ridiculous, whether you're Republican or Democrat, Senator, or President.

00:12:54.000 You should be able to staff your administration.

00:12:56.000 Now, the major cabinet picks, lifetime appointments, I don't know exactly where to cut off the line, but 1,200 to 1,400 is just absurd.

00:13:04.000 So I personally don't have a problem with the recessed appointments, but we should go through the process.

00:13:09.000 And for the major cabinet picks, it definitely has to go through a confirmation process.

00:13:14.000 I agree.

00:13:14.000 Senator, one thing to entertain is potentially changing of Senate rules to allow concurrent nominations, especially for the lower level, the Senate confirmations that sometimes just go through voice vote.

00:13:27.000 Before we even get to recess appointments, I would love to see that potentially entertained.

00:13:32.000 Can you educate our audience on what a recess appointment is and what it would take and require to do such an appointment?

00:13:39.000 Well, the Supreme Court has now ruled what a recess is, and I think you have to be on recess, know any type of procedures going on for 10 days.

00:13:47.000 And again, this was part of the Constitution when people traveled by horse and buggy, and they had to go back to their farms, and they were out of session for quite some time, and the administration had to staff itself.

00:13:58.000 But again, back then, the government was far smaller, and the number of people who had to be appointed is far less.

00:14:06.000 So, again, that's a tool that is available.

00:14:10.000 And, you know, I do think we need to be wary about changing Senate rules because eventually Democrats come get the majority as well.

00:14:18.000 And, you know, we do want the capability of blocking some of their awful nominations ourselves.

00:14:24.000 So I would caution people about changing Senate rules.

00:14:28.000 And we just have to win the elections, Charlie.

00:14:30.000 That's the best anecdote here.

00:14:32.000 We can't let Democrats gain control of the Senate again or they will eliminate the filibuster.

00:14:37.000 I realize we've got to do that so we can pass our priorities, but they just end up getting a ping-pong effect.

00:14:42.000 And what the filibuster has stopped in terms of awful liberal policies that expand government, it's well worth maintaining that.

00:14:50.000 I totally agree.

00:14:51.000 What I was talking about with changing Senate rules was just allowing concurrent nominations, but I don't know if that might involve filibusters or not, so I will yield to the parliamentarian and your wisdom there.

00:15:03.000 In closing here, Senator, legislatively, back in 2016-2017, we spent a lot of our political capital, as you remember, trying to repeal Obamacare, only to come Short because of one thumb down.

00:15:16.000 What do you think should be the top priority for the President and his agenda through the U.S. Senate that realistically we can get done before the summer?

00:15:24.000 Well, I mean, we need to prevent a massive tax increase that automatically takes effect in 2026.

00:15:31.000 That's got to be a top priority.

00:15:33.000 I think also passing the promises made that President Trump made when it comes to taxes is important as well.

00:15:40.000 I'm going to be completely supportive of Elon Musk's The Department of Government Efficiency, I'd love to work very closely with them, just showing the $1.3 trillion of other mandatory spending that we can't address during reconciliation.

00:15:52.000 We can't use reconciliation for normal appropriation counts, which is kind of bizarre.

00:15:56.000 But we got $1.3 trillion of other mandatory spending, not Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, that the unit party has literally transferred out of discretionary spending, put it in the mandatory category, So it just remains on automatic pilot.

00:16:09.000 That ought to be addressed as well.

00:16:11.000 We've got to reduce government spending.

00:16:13.000 We've got to reduce the size, scope, cost of government and its influence over our lives.

00:16:18.000 It's got to be a top priority.

00:16:20.000 Senator, thank you for your leadership as always.

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00:17:25.000 Joining us now is Darren Beattie from Revolver.News.

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00:17:32.000 Darren, welcome to the program.

00:17:33.000 Darren, as you know, we are fighting very hard to try to confirm Matt Gaetz as Attorney General.

00:17:38.000 Before we go into the specifics here of the baseless accusations that are being hurled towards Gaetz, please build out the significance of this nomination and the importance of getting him confirmed.

00:17:53.000 Absolutely.

00:17:54.000 You know, I think it's no mystery to us what's been going on basically since Trump stepped into the political arena.

00:18:01.000 There has been corruption of our institutions across the board, a repurposing of our institutions away from their proper and legitimate function toward Basically, political suppression against the enemies of the corrupt regime.

00:18:18.000 But when it comes to the intelligence world, which we've reported on extensively and talked about, there's almost a sense in which you expect the intelligence world to be a little bit dirty.

00:18:30.000 We only would hope and ask that at least sometimes they play dirty on behalf of the interests of Americans rather than conspiring against Americans.

00:18:39.000 But there's an inherent dirtiness to the work of the intelligence world.

00:18:46.000 Justice is very different.

00:18:48.000 Justice really cuts to the core of our self-conception as Americans.

00:18:54.000 And I would put the corruption of the Justice Department and the weaponization of the Justice Department in a different category entirely for that reason.

00:19:04.000 It was only when the Biden-Harris administration began egregiously attacking and bringing Sham legal cases against political enemies that you started to hear this term banana republic bandied about to refer to our once great nation.

00:19:22.000 And there's a reason for that.

00:19:23.000 And so I think justice is the precondition, setting the Department of Justice aright, cleaning out the filth in Department of Justice, restoring legitimacy to our justice system and law and order.

00:19:38.000 That is a precondition for the broader work that we need to do across the board in terms of reorienting the bureaucracies as such.

00:19:48.000 In other words, if justice isn't fixed, there will be no draining of the swamp.

00:19:52.000 As far as why Matt Gaetz is the indispensable man for this indispensable work, there's nobody in the country that better combines not only to Trump and the MAGA agenda, Exceptional legal acumen.

00:20:08.000 And also, we might get into this a little bit, he has more so than anyone, arguably than Trump, felt the personal result, the personal brunt of the very corruption and weaponization that he will soon be in a position to address and correct.

00:20:27.000 So for that reason, I think that Venn diagram of personal stake Intellectual capability and expertise and unwavering loyalty to Trump and the MAG agenda.

00:20:40.000 You need that in an attorney general.

00:20:43.000 We learned the first time around what happens when you have an attorney general who does not meet those criteria.

00:20:50.000 A disaster.

00:20:51.000 I think it's fair to say that attorneys general in the previous administration amounted to the Achilles heel.

00:20:57.000 And it's not just about setting justice aright.

00:21:00.000 If you have an attorney general who's not willing to fight, that can cause problems that compromise the entire agenda writ large because all of your bandwidth is sucked up, for instance, in dealing with Russian nonsense or this or that.

00:21:14.000 Trump understands this now, and that's why my understanding is He is all in on Gates.

00:21:21.000 He understands this is the appointment that sets the tone, sets the tenor, sets the narrative in which we are to understand all of the other appointments.

00:21:30.000 It is the indispensable appointment, and that's why it's inevitable.

00:21:34.000 Attorney General Matt Gates is inevitable.

00:21:37.000 That is beautifully put.

00:21:38.000 Matt Gates is smart, energetic, aggressive, and loyal to both Trump personally and the agenda.

00:21:44.000 Darren, very quickly on just this, and I want to get into the details.

00:21:47.000 We must repeat, He can be confirmed.

00:21:51.000 There is this D.C. trick that is happening where they're trying to kill it before consideration.

00:21:56.000 And there is no basis for this.

00:21:58.000 In fact, I can name five U.S. senators that I've been communicating with that have all said, you know what, if it comes up for a vote, I will vote for it.

00:22:06.000 And so they want to try to kill it without a vote.

00:22:09.000 Why is that, Darren?

00:22:10.000 By the way, anytime you guys hear, oh, six senators won't vote, ask for their names.

00:22:15.000 Say, what are their names?

00:22:17.000 Do you notice that?

00:22:18.000 What is the importance or the significance of that, Darren?

00:22:21.000 They're trying to kill it with anonymous sourcing.

00:22:24.000 Why?

00:22:24.000 Well, look, as far as these sham allegations, which I don't even really want to dignify and up to the point of discussing them, but if we're going to address them, I think it suffices to say that we had an extremely aggressive and corrupt Justice Department that basically prosecuted Any grandma who sat within 10 meters of the U.S. Capitol, and yet these people absolutely hate Gates.

00:22:51.000 They hate him.

00:22:52.000 The only person they hate more is Trump.

00:22:54.000 If they had something on him, they would have used it by now.

00:22:59.000 There's nothing.

00:23:00.000 It's a big nothing burger.

00:23:02.000 That's why you only hear smears and innuendo and this vague this or vague that.

00:23:08.000 These rumors, the purpose of the rumors that are manifestly false is to serve as a pretext for weak people who are afraid to put someone like Gates in because they know that he's the indispensable man for Trump.

00:23:24.000 And so we cannot accept any wavering From senators, this is a line in the sand.

00:23:30.000 Trump has made it clear.

00:23:32.000 You support Gates or you are completely done.

00:23:36.000 You're completely done.

00:23:38.000 And by the way, I'd just like to say we need to put this to senators very starkly, and I think they will do the right thing once they understand the stakes involved and once they understand the intensity of our commitment here.

00:23:52.000 But also, I think we need The conservative legal community needs to step up.

00:23:58.000 I pointed this out in other occasions.

00:24:01.000 Trump has done a lot for the conservative legal world, for organizations like the Federalist Society and that kind of legal establishment in many ways.

00:24:12.000 And I think that these organizations ought also to step up.

00:24:17.000 And provide reassurances and support that could be very helpful for the senators coming to terms with what needs to be done.

00:24:26.000 So let's go into this though.

00:24:28.000 The senators that are against Gates, they're afraid to speak out.

00:24:32.000 And so Darren, the plan needs to be just keep on marching and to call their bluff.

00:24:36.000 Would you agree?

00:24:37.000 Yeah, if there's anything, put it out.

00:24:40.000 There is nothing.

00:24:41.000 I mean, we've established that by virtue.

00:24:43.000 You'd think they would have been holding on to something, actually, if there were anything.

00:24:48.000 By now, it's not as though Gates is appointed attorney general and all of a sudden the system hates him.

00:24:54.000 The system's hated him for a very long time because He's gained prominence as one of the most effective, if not the most effective, supporter of Donald Trump and his agenda.

00:25:06.000 So this idea that, oh, we can't support him because of this or that, that's simply a pretext.

00:25:12.000 It's simply a lie, and it needs to be called out.

00:25:15.000 And if they say there's something, well, put it forth then.

00:25:19.000 They all know that there's nothing.

00:25:20.000 It's a weak excuse, cannot be accepted, will not be accepted.

00:25:26.000 Additionally, Darren, I know that we have you on to talk about Matt Gaetz, but I kind of want to talk about some of the other appointments.

00:25:32.000 Tulsi Gabbard becoming DNI director.

00:25:36.000 This one on the Intel side, I think, is equally as significant.

00:25:40.000 And honestly, I think she actually has a tougher road to confirmation than Matt Gaetz.

00:25:45.000 And I'll tell you why.

00:25:47.000 Because while some of these red senators will Not be thrilled with Matt Gaetz. 0.58

00:25:53.000 The domestic stuff on the AG Department of Justice is bad, but it's I don't think nearly as secret as what's going on with DNI. You might disagree, Darren.

00:26:04.000 I think Tulsi has one of the toughest lips of all the appointees.

00:26:08.000 Your reaction?

00:26:10.000 Look, I love both of them.

00:26:12.000 I'd have to, I mean, if we're going to have to pick one, I think that the AG is simply more critical.

00:26:17.000 We've seen what happens when you don't have an AG that's 100% committed.

00:26:22.000 It can cripple the entire presidency.

00:26:25.000 But absolutely, I'm thrilled with Tulsi's appointment.

00:26:29.000 She can get confirmed.

00:26:30.000 She must get confirmed.

00:26:31.000 Just to give an example, because now we have this ridiculous escalatory action, thanks to Biden's last minute lame duck decision to give these missiles to Ukraine.

00:26:43.000 One repeated pattern that we've seen from intelligence officials, military industrial complex officials in the last administration was it's absolutely critical who's responsible for the intelligence briefing, who's responsible for providing these reports,

00:26:59.000 because what the old game is, they fudge the briefings, they provide selective information, they only show what they think will be most likely to convince Trump To engage in some kind of escalatory action that is totally unnecessary or perhaps even counterproductive.

00:27:19.000 That's one of the key tactics that the intelligence community uses in order to subvert the Trump agenda and lead America Kind of sleepwalking into some major conflict.

00:27:31.000 That's why I think it's one of the many reasons that it's very critical to have somebody like Tulsi in charge of the intelligence at the top who can prevent that sort of manipulation with the dire consequences that it invites.

00:27:47.000 Election Day 2024 is in our rearview mirror and conservatives are fired up that President Trump heading back to the White House in January.

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00:28:50.000 So, Darren, Can we speak for a second about the timeline?

00:28:54.000 Hearings are going to start in early January.

00:28:56.000 We are going to have a major fight of confirmations.

00:29:00.000 The grassroots need to enjoy this victory that Donald Trump earned and everyone in this audience earned.

00:29:05.000 And then it's battle stations ready in early January.

00:29:09.000 Yes, 100%.

00:29:10.000 I mean, we have to be absolutely committed.

00:29:13.000 We cannot accept any one of these confirmations not going through.

00:29:18.000 It's as plain as day.

00:29:20.000 Trump went through everything, all of the slings and arrows, starting from 2016 all the way on.

00:29:29.000 You name it, They threw everything at him.

00:29:32.000 And at the last stages, that included an avalanche of politically motivated legal cases and even a bullet to the head.

00:29:40.000 He went on to win a resounding popular vote victory, an historic popular vote victory, and with that, an unequivocal mandate.

00:29:50.000 At the very least, the Republican senators should give him the people that he needs to do the job that he was voted to do.

00:30:00.000 The significance of this is immense.

00:30:03.000 And confirming the cabinet, personnel is policy.

00:30:06.000 Personnel is policy.

00:30:08.000 It's going to require a pressure campaign.

00:30:11.000 And all we have to do is have Republican senators actually listen to their voters. 0.94

00:30:17.000 Quite a concept.

00:30:18.000 And to actually fulfill the mandate.

00:30:21.000 Darren, if you had to describe what is the mandate that the voters gave Donald Trump?

00:30:26.000 The mandate is to clean up our government and restore legitimacy to our government and set America... 0.88

00:30:33.000 I keep saying the stakes of this are not just a politically successful second term, which I fully expect.

00:30:41.000 The stakes of this are much longer, much deeper, much more powerful.

00:30:46.000 The stakes of this are, if we do this right, And we need the right people to do it right.

00:30:52.000 If we do this right, we're setting America up for success and freedom into the end of the century.

00:31:00.000 This is setting America up which was so close to the bottom of the trash heap.

00:31:06.000 We've been brought so far down into the sewage pit by people like Biden, by people like Harris, by people like Merrick Garland, and I can go on and on and on to the point that we're on a trajectory to being worse than a third world country because we don't even have some of the freedoms of third world countries.

00:31:26.000 We have the squalor, but none of the freedom.

00:31:29.000 Worst of both worlds.

00:31:31.000 That's where we were headed.

00:31:32.000 This is a singular opportunity to set America aright, not just for this term, but for the remainder of the century and beyond.

00:31:42.000 That's what's at stake.

00:31:43.000 And that's why it's so critical to have the right people for the job.

00:31:47.000 But you have people like Elon Musk, Vivek, Matt Gaetz, Tulsi Gabbard.

00:31:53.000 It's actually a possibility.

00:31:56.000 And that's why we need to be 100% committed.

00:31:59.000 No compromises, not wavering on anything.

00:32:02.000 We need to make it very clear there will be Armageddon for any senator who does not step in line.

00:32:10.000 In closing here, how big of a deal has the liberation of Twitter and it becoming X has been for the information warfare?

00:32:17.000 I think that was a development of civilizational importance.

00:32:21.000 I don't think Elon is exaggerating when he talks in those terms.

00:32:26.000 That changed the entire game as far as censorship.

00:32:29.000 We have now a free flow of information on the most important public square in the world.

00:32:37.000 Elon stepping into the arena in the way that he did, and he understood, he was smart enough to understand, you can't restore free speech to X and then stop there.

00:32:48.000 There is already a target on his back.

00:32:51.000 And so it became existential for him to go all the way and go all in on Trump's victory, which he did, and he did successfully.

00:32:59.000 And now, given his track record of success and courage, I fully expect him to be phenomenally successful in his endeavors with Doge to cut trillions of dollars of waste and poison out of our glutted federal budget.

00:33:17.000 Darren, excellent work as always.

00:33:19.000 Thank you so much.

00:33:20.000 Really appreciate it.

00:33:21.000 Thank you.

00:33:21.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:33:23.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:33:25.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - November 20, 2024

Why Matt Gaetz Is Trump's Most Important Cabinet Pick

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