The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - A MEDAL AND A MAN Ft. Ilona Maher

00:00:00.000 Typically when I put names into stuff, my boyfriend does it or my sister or someone else.

00:00:04.220 They said it was going to be like a four hour wait. 0.87

00:00:05.760 And I was like, damn, all right, we'll probably have to go somewhere else. 0.94

00:00:08.160 Girl, I got to the front of that line in 10 minutes. 0.97

00:00:10.300 And then that girl was like, oh, I can teach you guys now.

00:00:11.880 She goes, I'm a really big fan. 0.97

00:00:13.520 I was like, I know that's fucking right, girl. 0.96

00:00:15.160 It's important to stay humble. 0.98

00:00:17.060 Yeah.

00:00:17.420 But it's also important sometimes to use it for the greater good of yourself.

00:00:22.740 Hey, you know what?

00:00:23.980 I get death threats.

00:00:24.860 The least I can get is cut the line at the Caesars Palace Cafe.

00:00:30.000 Hey, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the comment section show starring me, your fave.

00:00:39.440 Everybody knows me.

00:00:40.100 Who cares about me?

00:00:40.980 On to the guest.

00:00:42.040 Today we have the iconic, the legendary, the athletic as hell, Ilona Mar. 0.77

00:00:46.920 Yay! 0.99

00:00:49.060 Welcome to the show.

00:00:50.180 Thank you so much.

00:00:51.100 I'm so happy to have you.

00:00:52.320 I'm so excited to be here.

00:00:53.460 Me too.

00:00:54.240 I'm happy to have you.

00:00:55.140 You know what?

00:00:55.660 But I am trying to make it a mission this summer to have more female athletes on my show. 1.00

00:01:00.900 As you should, because they're really killing it right now.

00:01:02.860 Yeah, especially now.

00:01:04.200 Basketball players.

00:01:05.020 You and I have been mutuals for a minute.

00:01:07.360 Mutuals for a minute.

00:01:08.280 Yeah.

00:01:08.600 I think we've connected over some things online.

00:01:11.960 Yeah. 0.99

00:01:12.380 Awful men. 0.99

00:01:13.020 Awful. 0.98

00:01:13.700 That's what it was.

00:01:14.320 Love them.

00:01:14.620 I was like, what was it?

00:01:15.260 It was men. 0.70

00:01:15.820 I love them.

00:01:17.500 We'll get into that.

00:01:18.560 Yeah.

00:01:18.960 I imagine.

00:01:20.120 But no, we've been mutuals for a minute.

00:01:21.680 I think we have some of the same viewpoints, crossovers.

00:01:25.160 So it'll be interesting.

00:01:26.420 Yeah.

00:01:26.720 Ilona is a very successful Olympian.

00:01:29.040 Yeah.

00:01:29.420 I'm pretty chill about it, as you know.

00:01:31.280 Yeah.

00:01:31.560 You're an Olympian.

00:01:31.960 You're real cash.

00:01:32.600 I know.

00:01:33.260 Before we started, I asked Ilona, what are you doing?

00:01:35.160 She goes, oh, I just went to play in a tournament.

00:01:36.820 I was like, oh, cool.

00:01:37.500 Where?

00:01:38.000 She goes, just Barcelona.

00:01:39.580 Just Madrid.

00:01:40.120 Oh, Spain?

00:01:40.560 Madrid.

00:01:41.140 Oh, Madrid.

00:01:41.660 Sorry.

00:01:42.040 Yeah, Madrid.

00:01:42.700 Not Barcelona.

00:01:43.600 My bad.

00:01:44.520 I didn't do Barcelona.

00:01:45.400 My bad.

00:01:45.700 No, yeah.

00:01:46.180 It's so crazy because I spend my days around Olympians, so it just doesn't seem like a

00:01:50.340 crazy thing.

00:01:50.860 But I will say I use that title to get me things.

00:01:53.640 I would hope so.

00:01:54.620 You might as well.

00:01:55.540 You earned it.

00:01:55.720 People love it when they learn you're an Olympian.

00:01:57.540 They think it's the coolest thing in the world.

00:01:59.620 It is.

00:02:00.500 See, I'm around Olympians.

00:02:02.160 That's a normal thing for me.

00:02:03.500 Yeah, that's true.

00:02:04.140 I feel like Olympian, like being an Olympian is such a small subset.

00:02:09.220 It is.

00:02:09.680 It's almost like a Greek god to people.

00:02:12.260 I feel like the Olympics are one of the few things that make me go like, rah, America.

00:02:16.160 You know what I'm saying?

00:02:16.860 Oh, for sure.

00:02:17.460 And that's one of my shticks, too.

00:02:18.880 When I'm at the Olympics, I'm so proud to be an American.

00:02:23.620 TV USA all the way.

00:02:25.780 But then once you're there, you're like, we are it.

00:02:28.260 We are better in sports than everybody.

00:02:30.200 But what's crazy about America, too, is we're so focused on the Olympics. 0.99

00:02:34.120 Like for us, it's get a medal at the Olympics or you suck. 0.97

00:02:36.980 It's like you didn't get a gold. 0.99

00:02:38.360 Oh, yeah.

00:02:40.000 Bummer.

00:02:40.620 But that's just our culture of this.

00:02:42.420 I think so, too.

00:02:43.720 Well, and a lot of plays rugby.

00:02:45.660 Rugby.

00:02:45.900 Yes.

00:02:46.300 We did not mention.

00:02:46.980 And that is badass in and of itself.

00:02:49.300 Thank you.

00:02:49.860 Olympics or no Olympics.

00:02:50.820 Thank you so much.

00:02:51.400 I'd love to know your your lore, your genesis.

00:02:53.700 How long have you been playing rugby?

00:02:55.180 How did you get started?

00:02:56.460 Yeah.

00:02:56.960 So rugby is one of those where it's kind of a niche sport.

00:02:59.340 But I was always an athlete.

00:03:00.760 I would play like feel like you basketball, softball, then decided to try out rugby senior

00:03:03.700 of high school.

00:03:04.500 Oh, nice.

00:03:05.480 And I kind of say it just fit my body like a glove.

00:03:07.720 I tried it out and just immediately it worked for me.

00:03:11.260 And I think I was always I've always played these sports where you were kind of told to

00:03:14.480 tone it down or pulled back and feel like my coach was a little story of me like trying

00:03:17.760 to run through girls to get to the ball.

00:03:19.120 And so to find rugby, a sport like that, that actually praised my my body, my size and to

00:03:24.380 find a community of people who really loved it.

00:03:26.980 I mean, it was just it changed my life and changed me for the better.

00:03:30.000 And I've been playing now for 10 years rugby, but I've been playing on the USA team for

00:03:33.500 six years. 1.00

00:03:34.160 Look at you, bitch. 1.00

00:03:35.520 Yeah. 1.00

00:03:35.700 Did you go to college to play?

00:03:36.780 I did.

00:03:37.300 I went to Quinnipiac University in Connecticut.

00:03:39.260 Nice.

00:03:39.860 And did nursing there as well, because I wasn't no one.

00:03:42.940 I don't think many female athletes ever think like, oh, yeah, I'm going to make a career 1.00

00:03:45.700 out of sports.

00:03:46.680 Yeah.

00:03:46.960 Yeah.

00:03:47.140 You're not like an NFL player.

00:03:48.400 You're not encouraged nearly as much as it is.

00:03:50.080 No.

00:03:50.440 Yeah.

00:03:50.860 And it's not like you're going to go to the NFL and retire with millions.

00:03:53.540 So you just have to almost think of a backup plan.

00:03:55.400 So I went wanting to be a doctor, be a nurse.

00:03:58.000 And then it just worked out that rugby clicked and it kept working and I kept, you know, striving.

00:04:03.020 Are you glad to not be in nursing now?

00:04:05.400 Very glad.

00:04:06.080 Yeah.

00:04:06.400 Yeah.

00:04:06.620 Yeah.

00:04:06.900 It worked out really well.

00:04:09.280 But I still love that I did it.

00:04:10.760 And I think it was like, well, being a nurse is a different kind of hard.

00:04:12.980 Different kind of hard.

00:04:13.720 Different kind of hard.

00:04:14.280 You're doing two very nearly impossible things at the same time.

00:04:17.140 Yes.

00:04:17.340 I'm so happy.

00:04:18.400 I found like, have you heard of like the butterfly effect thing?

00:04:20.660 Yeah.

00:04:21.020 Yeah.

00:04:21.240 It just feels like my butterfly effect of like just making one change to try out rugby and

00:04:24.820 then my whole life is different and now I'm on this show, you know?

00:04:27.020 Yeah.

00:04:27.460 Totally.

00:04:27.820 Look at you.

00:04:28.280 Look at me now.

00:04:28.820 I really made it.

00:04:30.560 Yeah.

00:04:30.840 When I was a kid, I, well, I grew up playing sports too.

00:04:34.400 I played soccer my whole life, which looking at me, they're like, really?

00:04:38.380 Because they're like basketball, volleyball, right?

00:04:40.480 Yeah.

00:04:40.640 Never.

00:04:40.940 Actually, I'm really bad at basketball.

00:04:43.540 Volleyball I did love, but I didn't play till high school.

00:04:45.400 So I played soccer.

00:04:46.260 I was like on a real path, but then I tore everything in my left knee my freshman year

00:04:51.820 of high school.

00:04:52.320 Oh, I got you.

00:04:52.820 And that was my butterfly effect. 0.92

00:04:54.060 Because like when that happened, I was like, damn, I don't think I could play this forever.

00:04:57.340 I should start developing other skills. 0.95

00:04:58.660 Yeah.

00:04:59.120 Because I already liked school.

00:05:00.740 So I was like, what am I going to do?

00:05:01.780 Because I'm a Virgo.

00:05:02.540 What's your sign?

00:05:03.520 Leo.

00:05:04.220 Okay.

00:05:04.500 And I think I am a classic Leo is what I've been told.

00:05:06.700 What month?

00:05:08.460 August.

00:05:08.940 Okay.

00:05:09.320 August 12th.

00:05:10.160 Okay.

00:05:10.520 12th.

00:05:11.000 Okay.

00:05:11.440 Okay.

00:05:11.940 Okay.

00:05:12.520 I don't know what it means, but I know a couple.

00:05:14.180 I know.

00:05:14.440 Do you know your big three?

00:05:15.620 I don't know that.

00:05:16.560 I just know.

00:05:16.980 Like the one thing about Leo.

00:05:18.540 Me getting nosy immediately.

00:05:19.820 We'll, we'll talk about that.

00:05:20.860 Okay.

00:05:21.680 When I tore everything in my knee and I started like thinking, what am I going to do after

00:05:24.940 school?

00:05:26.440 I decided to do like journalism, like sports broadcasting, got fired from the NFL.

00:05:31.080 And now I annoy men for a living.

00:05:33.100 So look at that.

00:05:34.500 Butterfly effects.

00:05:35.180 It's beautiful.

00:05:35.720 Now.

00:05:35.840 I love that.

00:05:36.440 I love that.

00:05:37.080 That's crazy.

00:05:37.940 All roads lead to the same end point.

00:05:39.700 Yeah.

00:05:40.020 Now I wonder like, how did you get your personality?

00:05:42.100 Like as a good thing, you know?

00:05:44.400 And cause that's my thing too, is I have such a personality.

00:05:46.980 Yeah, totally.

00:05:47.660 Like for me, I like to say, and it's probably for you, but like I grew up kind of the bigger

00:05:52.600 girl.

00:05:53.360 Oh, I was always the sports girl.

00:05:54.740 So you almost had to develop something else.

00:05:57.460 And so I had to develop like a sense of humor and that was like how I became this.

00:06:01.240 So people are just like always question how I am like this on TikTok.

00:06:04.700 This is just me.

00:06:05.580 Yeah, totally.

00:06:06.260 It's, it's, it's a very interesting like comment to get.

00:06:09.840 Cause I know like exactly what you're talking about when they're like, oh, like how did you

00:06:13.440 turn out this way?

00:06:14.780 I honestly don't know.

00:06:15.960 I don't know.

00:06:16.500 God, I guess the universe, whatever you believe in.

00:06:19.300 Yeah. 0.99

00:06:19.860 No, I've been, I've been a mean bitch for a long time. 0.99

00:06:23.100 Oh, for a very long time. 0.98

00:06:25.240 I've been in a very bad mood.

00:06:26.860 Um, but I have been large and in charge.

00:06:29.720 Yeah.

00:06:29.920 I was like, I hit a growth spurt.

00:06:32.360 Well, I was always big. 0.98

00:06:33.600 Like I was a big ass baby too. 0.97

00:06:35.240 Yeah. 0.96

00:06:35.540 Do you know, like how heavy you were when you were born?

00:06:37.920 I don't, I think eight, eight something.

00:06:40.180 Yeah.

00:06:40.380 I was nine pounds, 12 ounces. 0.97

00:06:41.860 I was a big ass baby. 0.97

00:06:42.700 So like, and I had a big ass head and then I remember I, good luck to your mom. 0.98

00:06:47.960 Bless you, sir. 0.95

00:06:48.560 For real.

00:06:48.840 Thank you for doing that.

00:06:49.540 I know.

00:06:49.720 Cause my mom is so teeny tiny and my dad, my dad's six, six.

00:06:52.520 So my dad's a big dude.

00:06:53.440 Yeah.

00:06:53.640 My dad's a big man.

00:06:54.560 So it's funny.

00:06:55.460 Cause my sister was the only one who came out normal size. 0.99

00:06:57.620 Like she was like seven pounds or like eight pounds or something. 0.85

00:07:00.980 And then I was nine, 12.

00:07:02.640 And then my brother was 10, 12.

00:07:04.420 Oh my goodness.

00:07:05.060 So we just got bigger and bigger.

00:07:06.220 Oh my goodness.

00:07:06.980 And my sister's the shortest out of the three of us. 0.83

00:07:10.760 So I guess that pans out, but your sisters are tall too. 0.99

00:07:13.520 So I'm actually the shortest out of my sisters.

00:07:15.280 I'll tell you.

00:07:15.780 I'm five, nine and three quarters.

00:07:17.800 If you round up, it's five, 10.

00:07:19.180 But they're like five, 11 or something like that.

00:07:21.060 And I, I actually do think I loved coffee from an early age.

00:07:24.360 You know, that myth that coffee makes you shorter.

00:07:26.680 I was drinking coffee really young.

00:07:28.460 Really?

00:07:28.900 I loved, well, with cream sugar.

00:07:30.020 So I was like, was it coffee?

00:07:31.140 Yeah.

00:07:31.360 It was a milkshake.

00:07:32.140 Just milk.

00:07:32.720 Yeah.

00:07:33.540 But I, so I think that genuinely coffee might've made me short.

00:07:37.220 You think?

00:07:37.780 But I'm really athletic.

00:07:38.900 I guess it worked out, but they're, they're athletic too.

00:07:40.800 They're athletic too.

00:07:41.500 But I'm also the athlete.

00:07:43.640 But I'm like better at, no, no.

00:07:45.920 They're actually super athletic.

00:07:47.680 I'm the only one of us who tried out rugby.

00:07:50.580 Okay.

00:07:50.920 And cause they, they did like softball and shot put, whatever.

00:07:54.140 And I was the one who like, Olivia was done softball.

00:07:56.320 And we used to do it together.

00:07:57.100 Did you do shot put?

00:07:58.040 No.

00:07:58.700 Y'all did shot put?

00:07:59.740 My youngest did shot put.

00:08:00.760 I did shot put with my sister.

00:08:02.060 Yeah.

00:08:03.200 My sister played rugby too, which you already know.

00:08:05.640 Yeah.

00:08:05.840 But, uh, uh, we did shot put my sister senior year, my junior year, because my mom was always 1.00

00:08:10.620 like, you need to be in a sport every season.

00:08:12.200 Oh, that's our, our.

00:08:12.980 Yeah.

00:08:13.220 So we did volleyball.

00:08:14.100 Then we did soccer.

00:08:14.920 And then she was like, you need something in the spring.

00:08:16.400 So we did track. 0.99

00:08:17.100 And then I was like, well, I'm not fucking running. 0.97

00:08:19.600 Cause I run all the time playing my other sports. 0.98

00:08:22.180 So then I, we joined throwing.

00:08:24.000 So we did shot put in discus and we both made varsity.

00:08:28.100 Don't know how.

00:08:28.860 Probably.

00:08:29.360 I mean, there wasn't many of us.

00:08:30.900 Yeah.

00:08:31.100 There wasn't many women that would try out. 1.00

00:08:32.300 They're like the big girls put her out there. 1.00

00:08:34.680 And then, uh, our coach used to, he literally would separate us.

00:08:38.340 Cause we were both on varsity and we'd both like obviously stand together and, you know,

00:08:41.800 do bits the whole practice.

00:08:42.900 Yeah.

00:08:43.340 Me just workshopping a tight five.

00:08:45.460 And then he's like, one time he was literally like the two of you are being separated.

00:08:49.580 I need to separate the giggle twins. 1.00

00:08:51.580 That's what he called us.

00:08:53.060 And it turns out you were right.

00:08:54.580 Yeah.

00:08:55.240 Look at the giggle twins now.

00:08:56.640 Yeah.

00:08:56.840 Like, and look at us now, Mr. Tucker.

00:08:58.860 That was his name.

00:08:59.540 Yeah.

00:08:59.960 Sorry, coach Tucker.

00:09:00.840 Sorry.

00:09:01.040 If you ever see this, my bad.

00:09:02.580 Yeah.

00:09:02.860 We love you.

00:09:03.580 I didn't, I didn't love shot put though.

00:09:05.100 I wasn't a fan.

00:09:06.820 You know what?

00:09:07.120 My younger sister is like, so she just does whatever she wants. 1.00

00:09:10.840 Olivia and I were like, whatever, whatever you want, dad.

00:09:13.000 Like, should we play softball?

00:09:14.500 Okay.

00:09:14.640 You want us to go to softball pitching clinics on a Sunday morning?

00:09:17.040 Of course.

00:09:17.960 Whereas John was like, that doesn't sound like for me.

00:09:20.400 I don't want to go.

00:09:21.240 She said that doesn't sound like my journey personally.

00:09:23.080 I'm going to do this instead.

00:09:24.660 And I'm like, John also was like the only one of us who would

00:09:26.840 like drink in high school.

00:09:27.660 Like, I don't think people realize Olivia and I were socially awkward.

00:09:31.120 Oh, gotcha.

00:09:31.760 We grew up, I graduated in a class of nine from middle school.

00:09:36.480 Really?

00:09:36.800 Nine people.

00:09:37.660 Nine, a Catholic school.

00:09:38.540 Where'd you go?

00:09:39.940 Burlington, Vermont.

00:09:40.920 Not much going on.

00:09:41.840 Okay.

00:09:42.340 Nine people.

00:09:43.080 They were all my brothers and sisters.

00:09:43.840 So I was like socially awkward.

00:09:45.080 Oh, okay.

00:09:45.740 But Adriana was the cool one.

00:09:46.780 Like she would drink with her friends.

00:09:48.400 I think she once filled a vodka bottle with like some water or something. 0.92

00:09:53.680 I don't know if she's okay with sharing that story. 1.00

00:09:55.880 Yeah, that's youngest sibling shit. 0.99

00:09:57.420 Because my little brother gets away with everything too. 1.00

00:09:59.360 They're just so cool.

00:10:00.520 Yeah.

00:10:00.760 How do they do it?

00:10:01.760 Me and my sister were not like that.

00:10:03.620 We were very much like soldiers, like following orders.

00:10:06.720 You know what I mean?

00:10:07.280 Oh, for sure.

00:10:08.040 Yeah.

00:10:08.300 We were very like, anything you need.

00:10:10.040 Anything you need.

00:10:10.880 No.

00:10:11.040 That's us.

00:10:11.660 Not the youngest.

00:10:12.320 They do what they want.

00:10:13.240 Yeah.

00:10:14.040 It's impressive.

00:10:15.100 It's impressive.

00:10:15.780 Yeah.

00:10:15.960 I, um, when I was in high school and we were throwing and stuff, I remember like we used

00:10:21.540 to dick around all the time and our coach used to be like, you know, if you just take 0.81

00:10:24.980 it a little bit serious, like my sister got a scholarship to like a D3 school, I think

00:10:28.580 because she only threw for like four months and they were like, we need her on the team 1.00

00:10:32.640 because she, uh, I think she set a record in our high school and I think it's still there

00:10:36.420 to this day.

00:10:37.460 I'm actually on that list too, by the way, if anyone wants to look it up, don't, it's

00:10:41.760 embarrassing.

00:10:42.260 Yeah.

00:10:42.600 But, um, my sister got a, a, a scholarship offer and she was like, nah, cause she already

00:10:47.520 got to the, got into the university of Oregon and that's where she started playing rugby.

00:10:51.020 I know.

00:10:51.500 I heard that.

00:10:52.180 And she encouraged me.

00:10:52.900 She, she was like, you should try it too.

00:10:54.800 And I was like, nah.

00:10:56.420 Yeah.

00:10:56.940 She was like, why?

00:10:57.760 I was like, I hate, I physically like, or me personally, I hate being touched by like anybody

00:11:02.400 really, uh, outside of like, especially strangers.

00:11:05.400 Yeah.

00:11:05.680 So I was like, there was a lot of touching, a lot of touching your rugby, your clothes,

00:11:09.680 you're right in each other's faces.

00:11:11.300 How was it when you were learning how to play rugby?

00:11:13.320 Well, like difficult compared to the other sports you played?

00:11:16.000 I don't, I don't think so.

00:11:17.640 I've always had like a mind of an athlete, I guess I could always pick up and probably

00:11:20.780 you like, you, you go, go to a sports, but like, okay, I kind of understand the little

00:11:24.780 bits, how it gets it.

00:11:25.960 Like, cause you have the athletic.

00:11:27.360 Yeah.

00:11:27.600 You understand like fields awareness.

00:11:29.160 And even when I play sports now, I just don't understand people who don't get sports.

00:11:32.820 Like even playing, what's a spike ball that I'm like, you, this your first time, you know,

00:11:37.740 it's just, I don't get it.

00:11:38.760 That's me and my sister when we play volleyball.

00:11:40.360 Yeah.

00:11:40.660 I try not to take it too seriously.

00:11:42.300 Oh yeah.

00:11:42.580 But then if you start doing bad, I'm like, okay, well, why don't you sit down and you

00:11:45.560 watch us play?

00:11:46.420 I genuinely like cannot do things that are competitive.

00:11:49.340 I have to chill out.

00:11:50.880 I'm like, well, what do we play volleyball with like just narps, you know what you call 1.00

00:11:54.520 it?

00:11:54.800 I'm like, just chill out.

00:11:55.920 We're just having fun here.

00:11:57.040 And I can't, I can't care.

00:11:58.580 I even sometimes just don't play.

00:12:00.260 That's so funny.

00:12:00.960 That's my mom. 0.99

00:12:02.040 And my boyfriend too is actually, cause my boyfriend played football for a really long

00:12:07.300 time.

00:12:07.520 Yeah.

00:12:08.100 Played college football and he's very competitive too.

00:12:11.220 So there are certain things like they're not allowed, like you're not allowed to play

00:12:14.880 cause you take it too seriously.

00:12:16.360 Yeah.

00:12:16.640 Like dodgeball is one that he's banned from.

00:12:18.980 Oh man.

00:12:19.500 You're not allowed to play dodgeball.

00:12:20.580 Sometimes one time someone asked me in a thing in a Q and a on Instagram, they were

00:12:24.260 like, if you had to play dodgeball against men, like who would you want to add on your

00:12:28.680 team?

00:12:29.300 Like who would you want on your team?

00:12:30.160 I said, just Billy by himself.

00:12:31.640 I wouldn't even play.

00:12:32.260 I just sit on the sideline and watch him.

00:12:34.280 He, the way his prey drive gets activated during dodgeball. 0.99

00:12:37.440 I don't know what the fuck that is. 0.99

00:12:38.980 Is he playing dodgeball a lot still? 0.99

00:12:40.500 Where's he doing this?

00:12:41.260 No, it's just like, it's the, it's the, it's literally just the opportunity to throw a

00:12:46.620 projectile at someone is like his favorite thing in the world.

00:12:49.620 Hey, I don't get it.

00:12:50.580 We all got to get our anger on someone.

00:12:51.600 Yeah.

00:12:51.920 Whatever you want to call it.

00:12:52.840 It's just like pure joy, which is honestly kind of scary, isn't it?

00:12:56.240 He just enjoys doing that.

00:12:57.300 We all have our, our ways respect to him.

00:12:59.760 But I think that's, I think that's cool that you're honest about your, maybe I shouldn't

00:13:02.940 participate.

00:13:03.820 Well, it's like, first off, you're in such a competitive environment in your sport.

00:13:07.160 Yeah.

00:13:07.580 You just don't want to bring into other things you do.

00:13:10.420 And we'll do like trivia nights on our team.

00:13:12.520 And I just, this growing need to win the, the teammates.

00:13:17.720 And I just, I step back.

00:13:19.600 I start dancing in the corner.

00:13:20.980 I can't.

00:13:21.700 You just remove yourself.

00:13:22.740 Oh, some, everybody's yelling at everybody.

00:13:24.360 And I'm like, this, these game rights are for connection. 0.99

00:13:26.580 I don't feel connected to these bitches. 1.00

00:13:28.180 I'm actually angry. 1.00

00:13:29.840 I hate them all.

00:13:30.260 Why are you yelling so much? 0.56

00:13:31.880 Okay.

00:13:32.240 Like, it's just, I, I get so angry.

00:13:35.280 So now I've had to actually, I'm, it's a genuine problem with my team with game nights.

00:13:38.660 I can't do game nights or I just, I have to sit in the corner.

00:13:41.400 I have to just be the helper now because I just can't put up with it.

00:13:44.880 Yeah.

00:13:44.960 You're like the cashier in Monopoly.

00:13:46.640 I just, I really am.

00:13:47.840 They don't let you play.

00:13:48.620 No, I, I just help.

00:13:49.720 And I go there when we're doing like scavengers and I'm like, you did it.

00:13:53.360 Next task.

00:13:53.980 You're like the narrator in all the games.

00:13:55.880 Well, that's good that you know.

00:13:57.420 I do.

00:13:57.800 Yeah.

00:13:58.360 My mom is so competitive too. 1.00

00:13:59.900 Like my mom almost killed me once when we were go-karting.

00:14:03.040 So we're not allowed to go-kart as a family anymore.

00:14:05.000 Smart.

00:14:05.320 Cause my mom literally almost killed me like on purpose.

00:14:07.900 And then she tells me now, like to this day, like even now she's like, it was an accident.

00:14:12.860 And it wasn't.

00:14:13.600 Right mom.

00:14:14.360 It's cause of that nine pounds, huh?

00:14:15.540 Yeah.

00:14:15.800 It's literally, it's again, pray drive.

00:14:17.920 Like she just can't, she just can't, like she can't help it.

00:14:20.320 And even, even sometimes my mom will be like, I can't play that.

00:14:23.540 Cause I'll get a little, you gotta know.

00:14:25.760 So you gotta know for your own like mental health.

00:14:27.480 I know.

00:14:27.940 You gotta like be honest with yourself.

00:14:29.360 Yeah.

00:14:29.740 I don't know.

00:14:30.440 I think maybe, I think you're right though about you continuously being an athlete, like

00:14:33.520 as a career.

00:14:34.180 I'm sure that just fosters it.

00:14:36.400 Cause I stopped being an athlete a long time ago.

00:14:38.180 So I was able to put it down.

00:14:39.800 Yep.

00:14:40.100 But even then, like it still flares up in me sometimes.

00:14:42.800 Oh, and some people who don't, cause I have the outlet.

00:14:44.380 Some people who don't have the outlet.

00:14:45.520 Yeah.

00:14:45.880 When they're playing their adult leagues, they're going crazy with kickball.

00:14:50.240 Cause they need it.

00:14:51.560 They need something.

00:14:52.400 Yeah.

00:14:52.780 Yeah.

00:14:52.920 They do like kickball.

00:14:53.980 What do they do?

00:14:54.780 Softball.

00:14:55.480 Softball.

00:14:55.880 When I first started dating my boyfriend, he was in an adult softball league.

00:14:58.980 For what?

00:14:59.420 You were like, that's him.

00:15:00.720 That's what I want.

00:15:01.180 I was like, for, for what? 0.99

00:15:02.480 He's loving these balls. 0.97

00:15:03.520 You're like, you can come and watch me play. 0.97

00:15:05.020 And I was like, could I?

00:15:06.620 Do I have to?

00:15:08.220 God, that's all right.

00:15:09.460 I'm just kidding.

00:15:10.400 He said it.

00:15:10.880 He just enjoyed doing it.

00:15:11.940 Cause he, no, yeah.

00:15:12.740 I think I truly think, and I'm trying to get my sister into it.

00:15:15.160 Like you guys should try one of those adult leagues.

00:15:17.320 You can meet people.

00:15:17.960 They love, they love hanging out.

00:15:19.280 What about a run club?

00:15:20.100 Olivia's like, I got to train for that.

00:15:21.820 I can't be doing that.

00:15:23.140 Do you like running?

00:15:24.340 I don't like running.

00:15:25.620 Me either.

00:15:26.000 But I've seen some run clubs have hot people.

00:15:29.420 Tea.

00:15:30.340 And so I might try a run club just cause of that. 0.68

00:15:32.320 I did go to a run club recently.

00:15:34.140 I'm looking into it.

00:15:35.060 And yeah, I went to one recently.

00:15:36.700 And it's fun also talking about the Olympian title.

00:15:38.620 Cause you walk to a run club and you're like, you guys just, you just here to run?

00:15:42.860 Do you have the Olympian title?

00:15:43.380 I run too, but I ran at the Olympics.

00:15:45.340 God, I was running so much in Tokyo.

00:15:47.000 Speaking of Tokyo.

00:15:47.760 Do you been there?

00:15:48.740 I went, I went there.

00:15:49.860 Oh, has anyone here been to Tokyo?

00:15:51.960 No.

00:15:52.340 Oh.

00:15:52.980 So I do.

00:15:54.180 That's, I think the only reason I would do the sports later on is maybe to pull out the

00:15:57.920 Olympian title sometimes.

00:15:59.140 I'm playing kickball.

00:16:00.280 Like, Oh guys, it's Olympian coming up.

00:16:02.000 I'd have wham it.

00:16:02.680 Wham it.

00:16:04.080 As if I was like a veteran.

00:16:05.480 Oh, I, you know what I mean?

00:16:06.440 I'd come in my uniform to Duncan and I'd be like, Oh, you'll give them free coffee, but

00:16:10.340 not me.

00:16:10.820 Huh?

00:16:10.980 Yeah.

00:16:11.480 We're all serving the country.

00:16:13.080 100%.

00:16:13.400 I was out.

00:16:14.100 We went to Cabo after the last Olympics and we went to this bar.

00:16:17.320 Have you ever been to Cabo?

00:16:18.040 It's like a bar called Squid Row that everybody goes to.

00:16:20.940 Oh, okay.

00:16:21.440 But after the Tokyo Olympics, they had Olympic rings everywhere.

00:16:24.520 And I was like, sir, I just went to the Olympics.

00:16:27.280 Can I come in?

00:16:27.940 He couldn't care less.

00:16:29.000 Like, sir, those rings there.

00:16:31.140 I just did that.

00:16:33.040 You still want me to pay 20 bucks?

00:16:34.860 Yeah.

00:16:35.200 This is Cabo.

00:16:36.360 For an Olympian?

00:16:37.200 Yeah.

00:16:37.680 Please.

00:16:38.160 So I still take it out wherever I can.

00:16:39.800 Yeah.

00:16:40.200 Have to.

00:16:40.940 Might as well.

00:16:41.660 Doesn't get me a lot. 0.99

00:16:42.480 Even sometimes it's like me being like a dickhead online.

00:16:45.880 Whenever I meet people that are like fans of my content, I'm like, that's so great.

00:16:49.420 How come nobody's ever fans of me when I want to like skip a line?

00:16:52.460 You know what I mean?

00:16:53.100 Skip a line, get a free meal.

00:16:55.360 Never.

00:16:56.040 No one.

00:16:56.620 No one recognizes me.

00:16:57.300 I don't know if you figure this out, but I really thought I would get like more like

00:17:00.600 free dinners.

00:17:02.020 Like that was my goal.

00:17:04.260 Like getting, I'm not even famous, but like slightly famous.

00:17:07.160 I was like, hopefully these chefs want me to come to restaurants and try their food for

00:17:11.680 free.

00:17:12.200 It's not working yet.

00:17:13.280 I'm that's, I think that would be like the epitome of fame is just like coming in.

00:17:17.120 They start bringing out food for you.

00:17:18.660 Oh, I don't want any other, any other reason for fame, but just like a free appetizer.

00:17:23.840 Oh, you know, what's so funny is that's when I feel the power of the platform too.

00:17:28.520 Cause I, I went to the, you know, have you ever been to the Caesars Palace buffet in Vegas?

00:17:33.120 No.

00:17:34.020 Oh girl.

00:17:34.900 I went one, the first time I ever went, I like went, um, I was in Vegas for like work

00:17:39.280 stuff and I went with my sister, my boyfriend and our cousin Adam and we went super late

00:17:44.040 and you're supposed to have a reservation for like fucking, I don't even know, like weeks

00:17:47.500 in advance or something. 0.87

00:17:48.460 And so I went and I put my, typically when I put names into stuff, I, my boyfriend does

00:17:53.240 it or my sister or someone else outside of me, or I use my middle name or something.

00:17:57.340 But I put my first and last name and my boyfriend's like, are you putting your name in there?

00:18:00.700 And I was like, no, yeah, yeah, let me do it.

00:18:02.640 And I was like, there's a lot of workers in there.

00:18:05.120 Odds are one of those women is going to know me. 1.00

00:18:07.740 And then they said it was going to be like a four hour wait. 0.99

00:18:09.640 And I was like, damn. 0.99

00:18:10.420 All right. 0.99

00:18:10.680 We probably have to go somewhere else.

00:18:12.040 Girl, I got to the front of that line in 10 minutes.

00:18:14.040 And then that girl was like, oh, I can teach you guys now.

00:18:15.780 And she goes, I'm a really big fan. 0.96

00:18:17.260 And I was like, I know that's fucking right, girl. 0.77

00:18:18.920 It's important to stay humble, but it's also important sometimes to use it for the greater 0.96

00:18:25.360 good of yourself.

00:18:26.660 Hey, you know what?

00:18:28.040 I get death threats.

00:18:29.060 The least I can get is cut the line at the Caesars Palace Buffet.

00:18:33.380 All right.

00:18:33.540 For sure.

00:18:34.360 Let me have that one thing.

00:18:36.500 Yeah.

00:18:36.820 Jeez Louise.

00:18:37.820 That's actually a really good point.

00:18:39.400 That's what I'm saying.

00:18:40.260 That's a small price to pay.

00:18:41.600 Yeah.

00:18:41.960 I'm getting bullied online constantly.

00:18:43.700 I should get a free appetizer.

00:18:45.320 No, for real.

00:18:46.340 Let's get into it.

00:18:47.140 You know, that reminds me of some of your content.

00:18:49.920 I remember that was like taking off was when you, I think it was when you were at the Olympics

00:18:53.720 in Tokyo, when you were talking about the Olympic village, living in the Olympic village.

00:18:57.320 And you were also talking about trying to find a boyfriend while you were there.

00:19:00.200 So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:19:02.440 I don't stop that, honestly.

00:19:04.600 But that's what I remember when your content was like really going everywhere.

00:19:07.720 Well, I just, I almost feel like it was a business mindset.

00:19:10.420 People love seeing single people do things and they loved the idea that these hot athletes

00:19:15.840 are in the village and they're doing stuff.

00:19:18.960 Just pent up with sexual frustration. 0.93

00:19:20.840 And they're pent up with so much sexual frustration and they're all hot and these cardboard beds

00:19:24.800 and you can't do it on the beds.

00:19:26.480 So I was like, there's something to be done here.

00:19:28.840 And so I just made some TikToks about it and got known as like the Thirsty Olympian.

00:19:34.920 I was like, okay, well, that's a mean nickname to give me.

00:19:39.000 Okay, I'll take it.

00:19:40.100 But like, that kind of hurts.

00:19:42.400 All right.

00:19:43.240 I like, well, I wanted to flirt with one Romanian volleyball player.

00:19:45.840 Okay.

00:19:47.040 But it was like just a tool to use.

00:19:48.840 Like, it is true.

00:19:49.900 You're in the Olympic village.

00:19:50.920 The hottest people are in the, the hottest, fittest people in the world there.

00:19:53.860 There's of course flirting going on.

00:19:55.540 It was different in COVID.

00:19:56.440 So I am excited to hopefully go to Paris and be actually.

00:19:59.260 Get some.

00:19:59.960 Well, a hundred percent.

00:20:00.880 Get some.

00:20:01.380 No, but I guess they give out condoms.

00:20:04.100 And that's the thing.

00:20:04.600 It's like, they didn't give it out in Tokyo.

00:20:06.440 Why don't they teach you guys like you're at summer camp?

00:20:07.800 It's like literally a big summer camp.

00:20:09.620 It's a crazy time.

00:20:11.100 Aren't we all adults?

00:20:12.120 I think so.

00:20:13.280 Do they hall monitor you guys?

00:20:14.720 Do they like do bed checks?

00:20:15.560 I think they do.

00:20:16.160 No, they don't do that.

00:20:17.000 But I don't think you're allowed to go into like USA.

00:20:19.100 You can't go into like the.

00:20:20.180 Yeah.

00:20:20.560 Like other countries.

00:20:21.300 Other countries houses.

00:20:22.540 Yeah.

00:20:22.860 Well, that makes sense.

00:20:23.640 But I don't, it wasn't a full Olympics.

00:20:25.120 So I'm actually excited to just like get to meet these other Olympians and experience full Olympics.

00:20:29.360 Cause usually you get to stay in the village.

00:20:31.280 I meet people.

00:20:31.700 There's different like houses you can go to and party at.

00:20:34.320 But at the last Tokyo, it was like, all right, you just lost your dreams.

00:20:37.200 You're just crushed.

00:20:37.700 Okay.

00:20:38.260 Get out of here.

00:20:39.100 Yeah.

00:20:39.260 Have fun. 0.92

00:20:39.600 Go have depression.

00:20:40.520 Have fun on that coach flight back home.

00:20:42.040 Yeah.

00:20:42.560 Literally.

00:20:43.280 Literally.

00:20:43.840 It was very sad.

00:20:45.220 Oh, it was so sad.

00:20:47.120 So I'm hoping to actually get to experience an Olympics.

00:20:49.940 That's cool.

00:20:50.700 That's sick.

00:20:51.260 Honestly.

00:20:51.660 And you know what?

00:20:52.060 I have one story with an Olympian and everyone on here is gonna be like, you tell that story. 0.99

00:20:55.520 I don't give a fuck. 0.99

00:20:56.240 Alona hasn't heard it. 0.99

00:20:56.980 So I'm going to tell Alona.

00:20:57.620 But anyways, I met an Olympian once when I was in college at a bar and he was, and the

00:21:03.100 only reason I knew he was an Olympian was because he told me, but it was like two guys

00:21:07.220 and they were hitting on me and my friend, which of course you're going, Oh my God, that's

00:21:10.680 so funny.

00:21:11.100 I don't know how I love that joke.

00:21:12.400 That's so funny, but I'm so thirsty.

00:21:14.300 Oh, I can't listen if I don't have a drink.

00:21:16.540 And so they bought me my friend's drinks and then we were drinking and they were telling

00:21:19.900 me what they were there for.

00:21:21.060 They were like, Oh, we're on vacation right before training for the Olympics.

00:21:24.420 And I was like, the Olympics.

00:21:25.600 They're like, Oh yeah, we're both swimmers.

00:21:26.800 Like they were both swimmers.

00:21:27.980 One was from New Zealand.

00:21:28.920 One was from Australia. 0.99

00:21:30.120 And we were like, okay, the tallest man I've ever seen in my fucking life. 0.99

00:21:33.720 The way they were built, like the iron giant is crazy. 0.96

00:21:37.220 And they, the like, you know, they're, they're so like, it's like a triangle and then their

00:21:41.300 legs are skinny.

00:21:42.540 Yeah.

00:21:42.760 A little, a little spooky, but I was listening obviously because of the free drinks.

00:21:45.620 And then he was like, I was, when he told us he was, they were Olympians.

00:21:50.020 He was like, well, I've only meddled at bronze, but like, he's won like several golds.

00:21:54.840 And I was like, okay.

00:21:56.660 Yeah.

00:21:57.260 Okay.

00:21:58.000 And they were like, no, it's true.

00:21:59.820 And I was like, well, I could just say things too.

00:22:01.880 I could also stand here and tell you I'm on the Olympian.

00:22:04.220 I'm not.

00:22:05.100 Yeah.

00:22:05.280 And, uh, they were so upset that I was like, not believing them that the guy Googled himself

00:22:10.680 in the, in the club while we were in there on Wikipedia and was showing me pictures of

00:22:14.980 himself.

00:22:15.540 Yeah.

00:22:16.000 And I was like, yeah, that's you.

00:22:17.160 All right.

00:22:18.320 Well, and then, and then you never talked to them again.

00:22:21.280 Yeah.

00:22:21.580 No.

00:22:22.020 And yeah.

00:22:22.540 Then I was like, well, I have to go to the bathroom.

00:22:24.100 They never saw me again after that.

00:22:25.240 Yeah.

00:22:25.740 But, uh, hope you're doing well.

00:22:27.440 Actually, I don't.

00:22:28.180 He's a terrible person, but actually I hope you're doing poorly.

00:22:31.860 Yeah.

00:22:32.340 Yeah.

00:22:32.700 Uh, but I remember.

00:22:33.740 Do you have the Olympic rings tattooed?

00:22:35.900 I don't.

00:22:36.580 I just, I just wear a little, uh, necklace here.

00:22:39.240 Um, the Olympics was a crazy time in that I lost the quarterfinals, put it all on myself.

00:22:47.020 Classic.

00:22:47.760 Blame myself for it.

00:22:48.820 Um, and then it's a, there's something called like post Olympic blues where that Michael

00:22:53.980 Phelps has a documentary about it, but you get very sad cause it's like this one moment

00:22:57.260 you've prepared for your whole life and it's amazing.

00:23:00.400 Right.

00:23:00.660 And then if you, even if you don't medal, if you do medal it, like you come crashing down,

00:23:05.060 it's like, all right, see ya.

00:23:05.840 Maybe in four years you can get it, do it again.

00:23:07.780 Yeah.

00:23:08.100 Maybe, maybe.

00:23:09.120 So it's a very stressful thing.

00:23:10.960 And even now I'm so stressed out thinking about the next, this Olympics coming up because

00:23:13.880 we want to medal.

00:23:15.040 We want to medal for our country, for our team.

00:23:16.680 It would mean so much.

00:23:17.480 So it's like psyching yourself up to be heartbroken, um, and to do that all over again.

00:23:22.640 And I don't want to do it again, but like have that, that pure devastation that I felt.

00:23:28.700 But then also it's just that trade off of, you know, what you get to do.

00:23:31.920 Yeah.

00:23:32.060 Well, it's just who you are.

00:23:33.020 You're an athlete and you're a rugby player.

00:23:35.400 So it's like, it's part of your fiber at this point.

00:23:37.780 So it's like, it's, it's worth the risk.

00:23:40.620 It's worth it.

00:23:41.100 It's worth it.

00:23:41.880 Uh, it's, it's so hard, but then you also become like such a, I think better athlete, better

00:23:46.640 person because of it.

00:23:47.640 Yeah.

00:23:47.920 I'm curious how your athletic career has like intersected with online.

00:23:52.760 Cause obviously you have a large online presence now too, because of your content as being an

00:23:57.260 athlete.

00:23:57.620 So like, what was that like when you first started documenting your journey as an athlete?

00:24:01.980 Yeah, I think, well, as we're talking about, I just have maybe the personality for it and

00:24:07.220 it just worked out for me in that way.

00:24:09.220 But I started before the Olympics and, um, I remember I was just doing some videos in when

00:24:16.180 we were in Spain for a tournament in Espana.

00:24:19.100 Um, and I was doing some videos in our hotel room and I remember I was seeing the reaction

00:24:23.080 to it and people were getting really excited.

00:24:24.380 And I had like, got like 5,000 followers in a, in a short amount of time.

00:24:27.480 And then I was at that tournament and some guy came up to me and was like, Oh, you're

00:24:30.200 the Tik TOK girl.

00:24:30.860 And that was when I was like, wow, that's really crazy.

00:24:32.800 How powerful that is.

00:24:33.860 Yeah.

00:24:34.180 Like how quickly it happens quickly it is and how it can spread like that.

00:24:36.880 So I kept doing the Tik TOKs and then at the Olympics, I was really aware that people

00:24:42.100 are made at the Olympics, Simone Biles, Michael Phelps, like they were made there and that's

00:24:46.900 not, not made, but like, that's where the world knew them.

00:24:49.080 Yeah.

00:24:49.380 I came to know them.

00:24:50.500 Yeah.

00:24:50.760 And I knew I wasn't going to mean to this, you know, I'm not the best, I'm a very good

00:24:55.400 rugby player.

00:24:55.740 I'm not the best rugby player.

00:24:56.760 And it's a sport also that not many people are watching.

00:24:59.120 So I didn't knew that.

00:25:00.120 I was going to say, I think you're being a little too harsh on yourself even now.

00:25:02.520 I think it's just the popularity of the sport more than anything.

00:25:05.340 That's what I mean.

00:25:06.080 Yeah, for sure.

00:25:06.700 For sure.

00:25:07.000 Um, so I knew that, but I knew that I had something that people didn't.

00:25:10.220 And I think, you know, you know, you feel as well, like a personality and an ability

00:25:13.460 to say what I'm feeling and not feel like cringed about it or awkward or judged for

00:25:18.420 it.

00:25:18.700 Totally.

00:25:19.020 Yeah.

00:25:19.180 So in the village, I was, you know, saying all these things and that's why I got the

00:25:22.580 term as a third city Olympian.

00:25:23.360 Cause I was saying this stuff and you're on just saying regret everyone, everyone else

00:25:27.360 is too scared to say, yeah, I'm too scared, but I was like, no, nobody wants to say

00:25:31.480 cause they're Olympians, you know, you people hold us up on a platform thing.

00:25:34.800 We're just the, we're, you know, indestructible and we have to stay focused at the games,

00:25:38.880 but you practice for, you know, three hours a day and then you have all this time in the

00:25:42.020 Olympics.

00:25:42.920 Um, and for me as a female athlete, I don't get paid a lot. 1.00

00:25:47.480 Yeah.

00:25:47.860 So we always want sponsorships, but you have to, I've learned now you have to have something

00:25:51.220 for these companies that is a value.

00:25:53.580 Yeah.

00:25:53.920 Just past just being a winner.

00:25:55.260 Yes.

00:25:55.620 And that's like really tough.

00:25:56.940 And in a sport like rugby companies aren't like who I play in, I play one stop in LA and

00:26:02.240 that's it.

00:26:02.740 Yeah.

00:26:03.100 I'm in Dubai and so it's like, do you want to be on my Jersey in Singapore and people

00:26:07.980 in Singapore will buy your product?

00:26:09.080 Like, yeah, it's, you had to have another way.

00:26:10.900 So I just found that the TikTok and going, doing the TikToks has become another job for

00:26:16.200 me and it allows me to play rugby and focus on rugby because, um, and as female athletes,

00:26:23.020 a lot of us have second jobs and have to do more.

00:26:25.480 So it's been really cool and people always ask me, Oh, you know, do you, do you wish

00:26:29.380 you didn't have to do it or do you wish you'd, you know, do you want to not do it?

00:26:31.780 Like TikTok or social media?

00:26:33.560 Well, I, would I love to just play rugby and then make millions?

00:26:36.900 It was a hundred percent.

00:26:38.120 That'd be awesome.

00:26:39.360 You know, buy a house, but it's just not a thing for female athletes. 1.00

00:26:42.700 So I have to do it right now, right now and not in rugby.

00:26:45.920 Um, so I have to do it and I just think it's important.

00:26:48.840 So I just, people are like, Oh, does it take away from your rugby?

00:26:51.720 Well, maybe it takes away a little bit.

00:26:53.540 I don't think it does, but I think it's just, I think I have to do.

00:26:56.540 I think more than anything, it's just, it's another form of representation because, you

00:27:01.840 know, women so often aren't revered in the world of sports the same way that men are. 0.60

00:27:06.520 And now this year has been like a Renaissance because of the WNBA, but like past that, like,

00:27:10.500 you know, like the U S women's soccer team has way more goals than the men's does.

00:27:15.280 Yeah. 0.98

00:27:15.800 And like, no one gives a fuck. 0.97

00:27:17.020 Like, that's like, it's, it's one of those things where you having a platform as it gives 0.97

00:27:22.220 other women who want to be athletes to like the perspective. 1.00

00:27:25.500 Cause they're like, okay, I can be an athlete too.

00:27:27.400 And also turn it into a career because being an athlete for anyone, however you identify

00:27:31.780 is not forever because your body is not going to carry you for that long.

00:27:34.800 So the important thing is to turn it into something else.

00:27:37.120 And you've already started doing that.

00:27:38.540 So if anything, you're just better than everybody.

00:27:40.240 It's kind of a mogul.

00:27:41.260 Yeah.

00:27:41.580 There you go.

00:27:42.120 I guess like perfect, I guess is the word.

00:27:45.020 I don't know.

00:27:45.400 God, I don't know.

00:27:46.360 Just a money maker.

00:27:47.660 Like a business owner.

00:27:48.620 I guess just like unstoppable.

00:27:51.120 I don't know.

00:27:51.740 Whatever words that's your words, not mine.

00:27:54.440 Whatever.

00:27:54.940 Whatever.

00:27:55.240 But I think that's, I think it's a wonderful thing.

00:27:56.780 I think women getting to see you, not just like being an athlete, but being a professional 0.82

00:28:01.420 athlete and performing at the highest level, which is the Olympics is like a huge thing

00:28:06.020 for, for young girls who want to play, want to play sports.

00:28:09.040 Want to play, want to get out there.

00:28:10.300 Want to play rugby specifically. 0.99

00:28:11.580 That's a hard ass fucking sport. 0.99

00:28:12.820 Hard sport. 1.00

00:28:13.440 My body hurts.

00:28:14.540 What's what, what's the hate been like when you first started, when did you first start

00:28:18.520 noticing getting hate and what did it look like?

00:28:22.560 You know, and I think you, it's like, so it's constant now, but it's just something I don't

00:28:28.720 even seem to notice at times.

00:28:30.000 Sometimes it'll spark up.

00:28:31.820 Yeah.

00:28:32.040 It never stops.

00:28:33.160 I just get used to it.

00:28:33.980 Yeah.

00:28:34.060 Yeah.

00:28:34.200 Yeah.

00:28:34.320 It's almost like just a constant replay.

00:28:36.320 Yeah.

00:28:36.520 You still realize.

00:28:37.120 But, um, I think it was like a one comment here or there and then you're, you just, okay,

00:28:43.660 it's interesting.

00:28:44.280 You can post another video, another comment here.

00:28:45.820 So of course my, the hate that I get is being called a man, being called masculine because

00:28:50.700 Oh my gosh, because of how big I am, because of my size.

00:28:55.080 And it's like, I could be the most random video of me like doing something, like even

00:29:01.660 wearing a dress, doing something so casual.

00:29:04.220 And they're like, is that a man?

00:29:05.500 I'm like, come on.

00:29:08.620 That's not what your dad said, but it's just, that's what I made a joke about that.

00:29:12.420 Well, cause I, when I was first doing things, I, when I first started, I made a joke on

00:29:16.120 TikTok cause I was like all these, like the, you know, these young boys or these kids, whoever

00:29:19.920 it is are like, was that a man?

00:29:21.720 I'm like, your dad doesn't think so.

00:29:23.440 I can a hundred percent think your dad does not think that.

00:29:26.360 And they're like, how much do you weigh?

00:29:27.720 And I'm like, well, I was real light when your dad picked me up.

00:29:29.760 He was throwing me all over the place, girl. 1.00

00:29:31.280 Shit. 1.00

00:29:31.780 Ask him. 1.00

00:29:32.240 He knows.

00:29:33.380 Exactly.

00:29:33.860 And I made a TikTok about that cause I just thought it was so crazy.

00:29:37.620 But I also know that it's just these people that are going, it's like these kids going

00:29:40.780 through their phone and they're like, okay, hold on.

00:29:43.120 Okay.

00:29:43.900 She's like really muscular.

00:29:45.320 Okay.

00:29:46.020 You look like a man.

00:29:46.880 Sweet.

00:29:47.200 Next one.

00:29:48.020 It's literally so like flippant.

00:29:49.900 You look this way.

00:29:50.740 Okay.

00:29:51.000 I'm going to like, it just is the same stuff.

00:29:53.180 Yeah.

00:29:53.380 It's boring.

00:29:54.200 New content.

00:29:55.080 It gets real boring after a while.

00:29:56.820 I know. 0.99

00:29:57.400 Sometimes people are like, cause when I was like fucking people up every goddamn day for 0.95

00:30:02.300 like two years straight, some people are like, oh, you don't do that as much anymore. 0.99

00:30:06.380 I'm like, bitch, I'm bored. 0.98

00:30:07.860 First of all, I'm busy, but also I'm bored. 1.00

00:30:09.780 Like it's the same shit. 1.00

00:30:11.400 They're going to keep doing it. 1.00

00:30:12.360 Yeah.

00:30:12.500 I was like, there's only so many ways I can make fun of someone being bald. 0.98

00:30:15.480 Like at this point, at this point, I, when I do fuck men up, like it's gotta be a joke 0.98

00:30:22.020 that I'm like, that is so funny. 0.98

00:30:23.660 I have to say it. 1.00

00:30:24.780 Other than that, it's just the same shit. 1.00

00:30:26.340 Like they don't get any more creative. 1.00

00:30:27.840 It's just fat. 0.99

00:30:29.240 You're fat. 1.00

00:30:29.820 You're ugly. 1.00

00:30:30.140 You're fat. 1.00

00:30:30.480 You're ugly. 1.00

00:30:30.820 You're fat. 1.00

00:30:31.140 You're ugly. 1.00

00:30:31.420 And thousands of different variations. 1.00

00:30:33.120 Like that's just what they tell me over and over again.

00:30:35.100 So I'm like, I'm bored.

00:30:36.140 It's insane.

00:30:37.080 And it's just like some videos, it just floods my comments.

00:30:40.240 Yeah.

00:30:40.800 And so when I was first starting, I was, I do okay with it.

00:30:45.740 Um, and it's like crazy.

00:30:47.680 Cause I'll get, you know, like 20,000 comments of girlies and other, I think even other men

00:30:51.760 be like, you're so hot.

00:30:52.580 You're beautiful.

00:30:52.960 I love you.

00:30:53.380 And then it's one dude from like Idaho who's like, uh, are you a dude?

00:30:57.380 And I'm like, yeah, for real.

00:30:59.480 Okay.

00:30:59.840 Like he's got me and I'm bawling my eyes out.

00:31:02.460 But it's like, that sort of stuff.

00:31:05.680 I think it's hard and I'm coming to terms with it and I'm getting so much better at now.

00:31:09.760 It doesn't really affect me.

00:31:10.720 Yeah.

00:31:11.000 I think what affects me is like, they're doing it to me and I know they're doing it to other

00:31:15.000 girls who don't have the following that I do.

00:31:17.700 It's like who have, you know, 12 likes and then some guy goes in their videos and says

00:31:21.400 something like that.

00:31:22.200 And if you said that to like young alone, cause I mean, you probably did this growing

00:31:25.320 up.

00:31:25.560 I always got it.

00:31:26.520 I always got these comments on my shoulders, about how big I was in high school.

00:31:30.400 And it, it did affect me.

00:31:31.580 Yeah.

00:31:32.020 And it was like, I remember like distinctly in gym class once I was like, we were in the

00:31:35.800 gym and some guy was like, you're pretty masculine.

00:31:37.940 And I was like, cause I didn't understand it.

00:31:40.560 Cause I never felt that way.

00:31:41.640 I felt very feminine.

00:31:42.680 I felt very much in a different way.

00:31:44.940 So that took me back.

00:31:46.720 And so now it's like, please say it to me.

00:31:49.160 Fine.

00:31:49.520 Say it to me.

00:31:50.200 Like, but you're saying it to the other girls who haven't gotten to that level.

00:31:53.660 That really pisses me off.

00:31:55.420 Yeah.

00:31:55.640 That's, that's T honestly.

00:31:56.800 That's true. 0.98

00:31:57.400 And I, and I obviously I was a, I was a big bitch too growing up. 1.00

00:32:00.540 So I, I was like five, four when I was 10. 0.96

00:32:03.240 So I was honestly ominously big, like as a child, like looking back, I'm like, I'd be

00:32:09.160 a little afraid of me too. 1.00

00:32:09.940 Like if I saw it, I'd be like, damn shit. 0.99

00:32:12.840 Um, and then when I was going into eighth grade, I, I grew four inches. 1.00

00:32:15.740 So I was five, eight when I was 13, 12, 13.

00:32:20.160 So like I was, I was a big boy from a young age.

00:32:23.020 And I, I hated being tall.

00:32:25.520 I hated being tall like forever for so long.

00:32:29.040 I hated it.

00:32:29.520 I wished every day I would be smaller.

00:32:31.480 I was like, I wish I was smaller.

00:32:32.660 I wish I was shorter.

00:32:33.440 I wish I was, you know what I mean?

00:32:34.600 Like I used to think that all the time and that was mostly cause I was still unpacking

00:32:37.640 my male validation.

00:32:38.380 So like, you know, my need for it and my internalized misogyny and I was unpacking it.

00:32:43.760 So I was thinking like, I have to be smaller.

00:32:45.280 I have to be more, more feminine, whatever that looks like, um, in order for men to like 0.59

00:32:49.300 me.

00:32:49.980 Um, but my outward reaction was always violent.

00:32:53.160 Like I was always angry. 1.00

00:32:54.840 Like if men said mean shit to me, I was mean as fuck back. 1.00

00:32:58.680 And then I would go home and I would be sad if I was sad about it. 1.00

00:33:01.260 Cause I was just so like, um, I was just a real swing first kind of girl. 0.99

00:33:05.380 Um, and so when men would be like, Oh, you're a little masculine, I'd be like, you got damn 0.51

00:33:09.340 right. 0.99

00:33:09.560 I'm fucking masculine. 0.99

00:33:10.440 And then I would be sad about it privately. 0.99

00:33:12.620 That's how I handled it for you.

00:33:14.740 I don't think I would do that.

00:33:16.040 I don't think I was ever like that.

00:33:17.240 I wish I was.

00:33:18.220 I do.

00:33:18.700 I had a few times like men had told me like when I was in high school, like they would

00:33:22.660 say things like, I would like you if you were shorter than me, I'd like you if you

00:33:26.180 were smaller than me.

00:33:27.020 And I'm like, well, I'm not. 1.00

00:33:28.200 And you're a bitch. 1.00

00:33:28.940 And then I'd be like, yeah, you fucking said I was too tall. 1.00

00:33:31.240 Fuck you. 1.00

00:33:32.660 Yeah. 1.00

00:33:33.060 Yeah.

00:33:33.220 Yeah.

00:33:33.760 Now I love being tall.

00:33:34.840 It's easy.

00:33:35.420 I love it too.

00:33:36.260 It's a certain power.

00:33:37.220 I love it.

00:33:37.860 Have you ever been around people who are like taller than you?

00:33:39.400 Not like women. 1.00

00:33:39.920 I'm like, what are you doing up there?

00:33:41.140 Yeah.

00:33:41.400 It's very rare.

00:33:42.120 This is kind of my thing.

00:33:42.880 Yeah.

00:33:43.120 It's very rare. 1.00

00:33:43.920 I'm like, damn, bitch, you're tall like me. 1.00

00:33:45.380 That's what I always say. 1.00

00:33:45.960 I don't really like it.

00:33:46.420 I don't, I just feel, I get like this.

00:33:47.720 I'm like.

00:33:48.060 I see them like brother.

00:33:49.600 You and me.

00:33:50.840 I just, I love it.

00:33:51.800 I love walking into a bar.

00:33:52.800 Like I love wearing heels, walking into a bar.

00:33:54.140 Me too.

00:33:54.360 Like being able to see what's up.

00:33:55.500 Yeah.

00:33:55.960 Looking overhead.

00:33:56.760 Totally.

00:33:57.040 There.

00:33:57.700 Yeah.

00:33:58.300 Assessing the room, surveying.

00:33:59.660 Yeah.

00:34:00.080 Yeah.

00:34:00.240 That's my, that's my, my lot in life too.

00:34:03.160 And my boyfriend now, he's way taller than me.

00:34:06.060 So I'm, I'm six feet, but my boyfriend's six four.

00:34:08.100 So look at this.

00:34:09.460 Oh my God.

00:34:10.600 So when we walk around, like we're both very big people too.

00:34:13.780 So now I'm like, now I really love it.

00:34:16.060 But at the time I, I didn't like it at all when I was a kid.

00:34:18.740 I really hated it, which is like natural.

00:34:20.480 I feel like because especially when as women too, cause we're always taught that like smaller 1.00

00:34:25.740 and less in whatever that looks like, whether it's personality, physically, financially,

00:34:29.900 successfully, like all of it needs to be less than men in order for us to be taken seriously

00:34:34.700 by men, which makes no sense.

00:34:36.120 Yeah.

00:34:36.380 So I'm glad that you don't feel that way anymore.

00:34:38.800 Well, it's, I mean, it's a constant journey.

00:34:41.020 I think too.

00:34:42.740 Um, and I have never like been in a relationship or anything like that.

00:34:46.700 I've never had a boyfriend.

00:34:47.340 So it has been like my own, like really personally trying to figure that out.

00:34:51.540 And I think rugby really helped me with that too.

00:34:53.280 Totally.

00:34:54.040 It's like a weird transactional thing sometimes with these dudes.

00:34:58.880 Like, and I just not into that.

00:35:00.900 Yeah.

00:35:01.340 And I'd rather have a conversation, see, feel it out.

00:35:03.920 But I remember this guy, I didn't even talk to the whole night.

00:35:06.160 It was like, all right, we going, you going back to mine.

00:35:08.340 I'm like, what?

00:35:09.780 To where?

00:35:10.100 Do you even know my name?

00:35:11.440 Yeah. 1.00

00:35:11.760 To kill you. 1.00

00:35:12.420 I'll kill you in your own home. 1.00

00:35:13.360 Yeah. 1.00

00:35:13.420 Exactly.

00:35:14.100 I'm like, first off, safety, my guy.

00:35:16.020 Second, I'm heading home.

00:35:17.520 Yeah.

00:35:18.040 It's past my bedtime.

00:35:19.940 It's crazy.

00:35:20.760 Yeah, it's very, when I was in college, I, because I wasn't playing sports, I was like

00:35:26.340 a sports reporter for a while.

00:35:27.680 I worked in sports media and everything the whole time I was in college.

00:35:29.880 And I used to interview athletes a lot and I would have to do like one-on-one interviews

00:35:33.700 with them and stuff.

00:35:34.460 So I spent a lot of time in the like journalist area of that, of interviewing athletes, going

00:35:39.000 to like post-game pressers, like all that stuff.

00:35:41.200 And so sometimes when I would like date athletes, if I would ask them a question, like you said,

00:35:46.500 just standard small talk, like, where are you from?

00:35:49.380 Right?

00:35:49.640 Something really simple. 0.99

00:35:50.580 The way they would answer it, like it was a fucking post-game presser question, I'll 0.99

00:35:56.380 freak out. 0.99

00:35:57.300 He's like, well, you know, just got to go back and check the tape and then we'll get better

00:35:59.960 next game. 1.00

00:36:00.880 What the fuck are you talking about? 1.00

00:36:02.380 I asked you what your favorite color was. 1.00

00:36:03.980 What are you talking about?

00:36:04.840 Why are you talking to me like we're on ESPN?

00:36:06.440 It's crazy.

00:36:07.080 Can you like make normal conversation or is this just kind of where it ends?

00:36:10.700 It's just football.

00:36:11.320 It's just, it's just that.

00:36:13.060 And I think with, especially with sports and I, why I've been like successful and what

00:36:18.280 I say to other girls is what do women have that a lot of men don't have?

00:36:22.560 Personality.

00:36:23.220 Yeah.

00:36:23.540 And I think that's what like women athletes bring to the table a lot. 1.00

00:36:27.620 We're seeing with like Angel Reese, all these athletes, the personality they have and what

00:36:31.400 they bring is such, so a value and people really connect with it.

00:36:36.380 Absolutely.

00:36:36.740 And I just want, whenever my teammates are like, and, or athletes in the space will always

00:36:40.680 ask me what they can do to be better.

00:36:42.340 And they want to, cause they want to do this.

00:36:43.460 They want to get sponsorships.

00:36:44.140 I'm like, you just got to say stuff online.

00:36:45.840 Yeah.

00:36:46.200 You got to show your personality online.

00:36:47.880 That's, that's the only thing I know.

00:36:49.380 Yeah.

00:36:49.620 What sets you apart?

00:36:50.540 Yeah.

00:36:50.840 Because obviously if you're on a team of other people who have made it to that level, you're

00:36:54.300 all like wonderful athletes.

00:36:55.820 Yes.

00:36:56.180 You're all in tip top shape.

00:36:58.120 You're all fantastic.

00:36:59.100 Yeah.

00:36:59.460 But like, what's something else you have that can set you apart from everyone?

00:37:02.960 Especially, especially like you said, in this industry now where like professional male

00:37:08.300 sports are like revered in a much different way than women are. 0.99

00:37:12.320 So women constantly have to juggle so many things at the same time. 1.00

00:37:15.980 Yeah.

00:37:16.160 So now that so many female athletes are also developing like careers, like in entertainment, 1.00

00:37:20.560 I think it's fucking awesome. 0.92

00:37:22.020 And you're one of them. 0.98

00:37:22.880 I think that's badass.

00:37:23.920 Cause then it's like you, you're, you're doing two things that you love at the same time,

00:37:27.100 but you can turn what you love, your passion, which is your sport into your actual career.

00:37:31.320 You can like pivot so easily into that once you don't want to play anymore.

00:37:34.420 And that's like the thought of making sports a career is something girls didn't think of. 1.00

00:37:39.140 So that's why I'm thinking of it.

00:37:40.580 And I have some teammates who are going to retire soon and they're just going to go into

00:37:43.340 the workforce.

00:37:44.200 Yeah.

00:37:44.580 It's like, was it a fever dream?

00:37:46.020 Yeah.

00:37:46.260 I was just traveling the world to go into Dubai and Cape Town and then you just kind of

00:37:49.740 go back to normal life.

00:37:50.620 So that's where I just, I, people always ask me, oh, you want to get back into nursing?

00:37:54.000 And it's like, well, if I have to, yeah, I'll do it.

00:37:56.240 But I would love to see what I can do with this and with sports.

00:37:59.220 Absolutely.

00:37:59.840 Because there's so many different avenues now, especially when you, because entertainment and media

00:38:04.120 is so closely intertwined with sports now, there's so many different ways you can go.

00:38:07.860 Like men do it all the time. 0.93

00:38:09.160 They pivot into commentary or they become sideline reporters or correspondents of some kind, or

00:38:14.240 they go and they like mentor or they do talks or they work with kids.

00:38:18.920 Like there's a whole slew of options.

00:38:21.140 I think people just don't know.

00:38:22.200 That's why, again, your representation on social media is so important because women can see 1.00

00:38:26.420 that there's a career even after sports, like well after a fulfilling career.

00:38:31.020 And I think too, like this happened to like my dad, my dad went to the NFL.

00:38:34.120 Like obviously my boyfriend played forever.

00:38:36.080 Like my whole family, we've all been athletes.

00:38:38.060 So after you're done, it's like, there's like this, like almost rebirth you go through where 0.95

00:38:43.380 you're kind of like, okay, what the fuck do I do now? 0.81

00:38:45.380 Like, what do I do now? 0.95

00:38:46.280 Like, I don't know what to do.

00:38:47.240 And sometimes, especially with men who dedicate all of this time or women who dedicate all this

00:38:52.240 time and money to this sport and then you don't do it anymore.

00:38:54.640 Yeah.

00:38:55.060 It gets to a point where you're kind of like, I don't even know like who I am without the

00:38:59.400 sport.

00:38:59.940 I'm scared.

00:39:00.740 I don't know who I am.

00:39:01.860 Mostly I'm scared though, because I don't know how to eat without sports.

00:39:06.020 And I see what, like what you don't have to eat as much when you're not running miles

00:39:09.780 a day.

00:39:10.260 Yeah.

00:39:11.400 I eat like three eggs.

00:39:13.120 My old sister will eat one egg. 0.99

00:39:15.260 I'm like, are you going to be okay the rest of the day?

00:39:17.820 Do you have enough protein?

00:39:18.480 That's not enough protein.

00:39:19.440 Like there's only like seven grams of protein in that egg.

00:39:21.460 She's like, chill.

00:39:22.800 Yeah.

00:39:23.380 No, you'll be fine.

00:39:24.360 You'll be fine.

00:39:24.840 That was a new, that was an adaptive thing for me though.

00:39:27.500 It is.

00:39:28.140 Yeah. 1.00

00:39:28.260 Cause you eat so different when you play all the fucking time. 0.99

00:39:30.820 Well, this is actually a really good transition. 0.99

00:39:32.080 Cause we're going to go into our topic for today.

00:39:34.720 Right.

00:39:35.060 Perfect.

00:39:35.420 Kind of, but not really, which is a terrible men on the internet who think female professional

00:39:39.800 athletes aren't feminine enough for them. 1.00

00:39:41.760 And that's just basically men being threatened by strong women, which by the way, your comment

00:39:46.360 about the shoulders.

00:39:47.340 I've gotten that too.

00:39:49.000 I, I don't know if this is controversial.

00:39:50.920 I love big shoulders. 0.99

00:39:52.660 I love, I love a cut back bitch, like big traps. 1.00

00:39:56.440 You know what I'm saying? 1.00

00:39:57.200 Like the rock and black Adam from behind.

00:40:00.500 That's what I'm trying to look like.

00:40:01.580 You know what I'm saying? 0.99

00:40:02.460 Like his traps were so big bitch. 1.00

00:40:04.520 And that suit, they're sticking out. 0.99

00:40:06.520 Like he has a scoop neck on.

00:40:07.700 I have some nice traps.

00:40:08.520 I'll show you.

00:40:08.980 I know.

00:40:09.360 I've seen them. 1.00

00:40:10.340 I've clocked them bitch. 1.00

00:40:11.760 That's what I'm saying. 0.99

00:40:12.580 I'm a huge fan of traps on.

00:40:13.880 Yeah.

00:40:14.540 Are you kidding me?

00:40:15.820 Like a powerful, a cut back.

00:40:18.460 Yeah.

00:40:19.660 Yeah. 0.99

00:40:20.060 That's the shit I'm in. 0.99

00:40:21.280 Yeah. 1.00

00:40:22.000 That's what I'm all about.

00:40:23.460 I don't like, I, and I feel like a lot of women, especially when it comes to any sort 1.00

00:40:28.200 of fitness to a lot of stuff is geared towards women. 0.94

00:40:30.520 It's all lower body stuff. 0.99

00:40:31.580 It's all like, Oh, big butt, like small stomach. 0.98

00:40:34.540 Yeah. 0.99

00:40:34.820 Cool.

00:40:35.440 If that's your vibes, that's great.

00:40:36.640 I think that's great.

00:40:37.780 Uh, mine's I want in just an, I want to be muscle Bob buff.

00:40:41.520 You know what I mean?

00:40:43.080 I want to be like, so like, like Angela Bassett in Wakanda forever in the very beginning of

00:40:48.260 Wakanda forever. 0.99

00:40:48.800 When she walks into that UN meeting, bitch, the way she's like, Oh yeah. 1.00

00:40:53.380 And oiled up. 1.00

00:40:54.480 Yeah.

00:40:55.160 Yeah.

00:40:55.640 Yeah. 1.00

00:40:56.000 That's the type of shit I'm trying to be on. 0.99

00:40:57.600 You know what I mean? 0.99

00:40:58.020 So I think that's a compliment when men tell me I have huge shoulders. 0.92

00:41:00.740 I'm like, you God damn right. 1.00

00:41:02.420 I do bitch. 1.00

00:41:02.960 I've been working on that. 0.99

00:41:03.780 So, okay.

00:41:05.380 So this first video I'm going to read, this says, this is a video that shows a clip from

00:41:10.860 a rugby match featuring player, Portia Woodman doing a run and pushing defenders off her with

00:41:16.360 the caption.

00:41:16.920 You do not want a one V one with this woman. 1.00

00:41:18.920 Um, and then the comments are all from men.

00:41:22.060 So they're not nice to say the least.

00:41:24.940 This one says a regular guy is enough to defeat this player, a regular guy.

00:41:30.620 What does that mean?

00:41:31.540 People always say that to me too.

00:41:33.300 I'll be like posting a video of me tackling or I posted a video of if somebody, if a man

00:41:39.580 hits me, who are you calling it?

00:41:40.540 I have all my teammates and everyone in the comments were like, I could take them all on.

00:41:44.080 You could take on a full team of us rugby girls. 0.99

00:41:46.980 You think, you think genuinely I'm coming at you from one and she's coming at you from 0.96

00:41:52.200 the other.

00:41:52.520 I'm, you know, it's like, that's just not even right.

00:41:55.540 Girl, are you out of your mind?

00:41:57.180 They have, and it's Portia Woodman who she plays for New Zealand, iconic, legendary best

00:42:02.420 player.

00:42:03.380 Um, it's just not like, no, none.

00:42:05.880 And I don't even think any of the guys in the seventh circuit would say that.

00:42:08.520 No.

00:42:08.880 And you know, what's funny is they would never say that in general because they recognize that

00:42:13.780 she's also a very talented athlete. 0.99

00:42:16.180 Like the, this fucking exhausting conversation that regular ass men who work at fucking Auto 1.00

00:42:22.340 Zone want to have. 0.99

00:42:23.340 And they're like, I could, if you gave me like a week, I could probably take her.

00:42:27.080 Yeah.

00:42:27.420 I could do it.

00:42:28.460 Would you?

00:42:29.260 Katelyn Clark.

00:42:29.900 I got it.

00:42:30.880 Oh, don't piss me off. 1.00

00:42:32.400 Don't make me, you're making me fucking mad. 0.97

00:42:33.860 That's why I was like, it's funny too. 0.99

00:42:35.380 Cause men were like, well, who the fuck are you to say? 0.99

00:42:37.200 I couldn't. 1.00

00:42:37.860 I'm just as qualified as you bitch. 1.00

00:42:39.380 Yeah. 1.00

00:42:39.620 Not at all.

00:42:40.780 Not at all.

00:42:41.220 And you don't see me saying that, do you?

00:42:42.720 You don't see me going, yeah, just give me a second.

00:42:44.960 I could take Katelyn Clark.

00:42:46.240 I could take a loan in a match. 1.00

00:42:47.400 Are you out of your fucking mind? 1.00

00:42:48.840 I'm good. 1.00

00:42:49.840 That's why overzealous confidence is really easy when you're like never going to be challenged.

00:42:53.860 Yeah.

00:42:54.280 I'm like, we could have this fake conversation all day long, but you're at home and she's

00:42:58.600 at the Olympics. 1.00

00:42:59.260 So what the fuck are we talking about? 0.99

00:43:00.980 Two plus two equals four. 0.99

00:43:01.860 No, for real.

00:43:02.600 I'm like, okay.

00:43:03.320 And apples are orange. 0.98

00:43:04.120 Like what the fuck are we even saying? 0.97

00:43:05.860 None of it makes any sense. 0.98

00:43:06.960 Like that's what I was like.

00:43:07.840 We're just sitting here writing fan fiction.

00:43:09.880 And they're like, well, if I was playing against you, they're not.

00:43:12.520 It's the scenario in their head that puts them to sleep.

00:43:14.440 I know.

00:43:15.000 That's the stories they tell themselves.

00:43:16.440 I listen to their screams.

00:43:17.460 That puts me to sleep really easily.

00:43:19.960 It's a one handoff.

00:43:21.340 Does that now constitute greatness in women's rugby?

00:43:24.680 I don't know what that means.

00:43:25.880 One handoff.

00:43:26.440 So it's like stiff arms.

00:43:27.600 She's stiff arms.

00:43:28.280 Oh, stiff arms.

00:43:28.620 Yeah, okay.

00:43:30.020 And it's like, yeah, actually.

00:43:32.440 If you see the way she stiff arms people, it's actually really great. 0.93

00:43:35.780 Yeah.

00:43:37.020 Yes.

00:43:37.980 Thank you for asking my questions.

00:43:39.000 Great comments.

00:43:40.320 Thank you.

00:43:41.620 Also, I think stiff arming is one of the most humiliating things to happen to anybody.

00:43:46.520 Oh, for sure.

00:43:47.660 That happens to me.

00:43:48.940 I'll tell you what I do.

00:43:49.860 I stand up.

00:43:50.580 I walk off.

00:43:51.240 I quit.

00:43:51.920 Oh, yeah.

00:43:52.520 That's what I do personally.

00:43:54.340 Oh, it's kind of my thing.

00:43:55.180 When people get stiff armed, like in the face too.

00:43:57.740 That's what you aim for.

00:43:58.460 When they like mush your face like that.

00:44:01.260 There's a, I stiff arm people a lot.

00:44:03.300 And so I posted a picture recently of a stiff arming girl. 0.90

00:44:05.300 And then a girl stiff armed me in the face. 1.00

00:44:06.660 I still tackled her, but she got to my face. 1.00

00:44:08.360 And then I talked about, but she, they got the one shot of me getting stiff around my

00:44:11.100 face.

00:44:11.260 She posted.

00:44:11.700 I was like, well, I mean, she did.

00:44:14.400 She got me.

00:44:14.920 So I posted another one.

00:44:16.060 It's okay.

00:44:16.560 Whatever.

00:44:17.480 I also did that.

00:44:18.380 You know what?

00:44:18.840 Respect.

00:44:19.820 Like girl, you got it.

00:44:21.120 I was high on that, but it is, it is a, it's like the one thing I can do.

00:44:25.520 People like step, step, they're really fast.

00:44:28.300 I just try to go through people.

00:44:30.280 Period.

00:44:31.220 I mean, why wouldn't you with rugby, especially that's like the whole point.

00:44:34.900 Well, and cause I'm 200 pounds.

00:44:36.440 So I'm like, we don't plow them over.

00:44:37.820 Like I'm the biggest girl out there.

00:44:39.220 Why am I going to go around you?

00:44:41.080 That doesn't make sense.

00:44:41.720 That's too much running.

00:44:42.480 I'm just going to run through you.

00:44:43.260 Mass or something like that is what they say. 1.00

00:44:45.060 Yeah, dude, that's stiff arm shit. 0.99

00:44:46.520 That would humble me quickly. 0.99

00:44:48.180 Oh, it does. 1.00

00:44:48.980 Pack me up swiftly, bitch. 1.00

00:44:50.740 Yeah. 1.00

00:44:50.940 She, she, she mushes my face. 1.00

00:44:52.260 Hey, got to rethink my career choice.

00:44:54.260 Don't know if this is for me.

00:44:54.780 See you guys.

00:44:55.060 Did you take off your, your cleats and everything?

00:44:57.000 Well, this has been great.

00:44:57.860 Thanks guys.

00:44:58.380 It's okay.

00:44:58.880 I'll fly myself home.

00:44:59.820 Don't worry about me.

00:45:00.620 Can we have a sub?

00:45:01.520 Yeah.

00:45:02.400 I actually think I got hurt.

00:45:03.800 Actually, my stomach hurts.

00:45:04.720 I have to go to the locker room.

00:45:05.720 Tears in my eyes.

00:45:06.740 Yeah.

00:45:08.980 I've never, has anything embarrassing ever happened to you when you were pregnant?

00:45:11.820 For sure.

00:45:13.540 I can't think now, but like recently I tackled another girl who's my size really well. 0.91

00:45:19.400 And I've got like, you know, comments on that.

00:45:20.920 And I just knew when I tackled her after the game, I was like, sorry, dog.

00:45:24.080 I know you're coming for me later because we're so big.

00:45:28.420 We don't get tackled like that often.

00:45:29.880 It was a straight up tackle where I took her down. 1.00

00:45:31.520 Okay.

00:45:31.900 And cause you just don't usually get that happen to you.

00:45:34.660 But she, for some reason came into me and we're size, we're the same size.

00:45:38.120 And it just worked out that I, you're not going to bump me off.

00:45:40.500 So I tackled her. 1.00

00:45:41.160 So I was like, Hey man, I know that's coming for me.

00:45:44.120 Please just be respectful afterwards.

00:45:46.240 Help me up off the ground.

00:45:47.280 If you could, no hard feelings, no hard feelings.

00:45:49.100 You know, I know karma's coming, but rugby is one of those where it's like, you don't

00:45:53.320 have time to be embarrassed.

00:45:54.420 You, you could get stiff arm.

00:45:55.880 You get this.

00:45:56.340 You just got to be like, okay, back up the plays.

00:45:59.100 Especially with sevens too.

00:46:00.180 It's just so fast moving.

00:46:01.400 Honestly, I'm shot.

00:46:02.460 Like, that's what was shocking.

00:46:03.340 Cause my sister played rugby for a long time. 0.99

00:46:04.960 And I was like, my sister was, we joke all the time.

00:46:07.420 My sister was born nervous.

00:46:08.520 Like she's just always like about everything, but she thrived in rugby.

00:46:13.680 She thrived in rugby.

00:46:14.680 She loved it.

00:46:15.080 Isn't that crazy?

00:46:15.780 Yeah.

00:46:16.000 It's, it's crazy how like, it seems so opposite. 0.90

00:46:18.860 Like you would think I would be super into rugby because I'm so fucking confrontational. 0.59

00:46:22.300 But I was like, nah, I'm good. 0.96

00:46:24.160 Well, that's what's special about rugby.

00:46:24.800 I do that all the time.

00:46:26.700 What's special about rugby is like the people who are joining rugby, you would not expect

00:46:30.920 it.

00:46:31.220 No, seriously.

00:46:31.960 In college, when I looked around, it's like the people who, you know, they want to go,

00:46:35.580 they're studying.

00:46:36.580 They're great students.

00:46:37.680 And they've never played a sport in their life and they decided to play this tackle

00:46:40.480 sport.

00:46:40.620 Yeah, that's like, yeah.

00:46:41.600 What made you do, I love it.

00:46:43.440 Like, thank you for coming out, but what made you want to do that?

00:46:46.300 Yeah.

00:46:46.480 And some of my sister's rugby friends too are like power lifters too.

00:46:49.540 Oh yeah.

00:46:49.980 So they're strong as hell. 1.00

00:46:51.300 Oh, you bitches are crazy. 1.00

00:46:54.320 I think I'm like, why do you want to do that? 1.00

00:46:56.940 Lift heavy shit like that. 0.99

00:46:58.220 Or just, and just play rugby. 1.00

00:46:59.400 It's like a lot.

00:47:00.860 Very tough.

00:47:01.820 So many things at once.

00:47:03.780 They're better than me.

00:47:04.480 That's why I think men who are like, I could easily take.

00:47:08.720 Stop.

00:47:09.220 Stop right there.

00:47:10.240 How tall are you again?

00:47:10.980 Yeah.

00:47:11.140 Stop right there.

00:47:12.160 You wouldn't even qualify for the team.

00:47:13.740 Yeah.

00:47:14.200 You'd be like one of those guys who gets discharged early because you have asthma.

00:47:17.160 You know what I mean?

00:47:17.660 One time I, the one time I tried out for a water sport with my sister was for water polo.

00:47:23.520 Yeah. 1.00

00:47:24.440 Hey, stupid. 1.00

00:47:25.740 Hate that. 1.00

00:47:26.460 Hate that sport.

00:47:27.220 Learn pretty quickly.

00:47:27.800 I can only swim leisurely.

00:47:29.160 But I, we literally to start before you even get to the water polo part, they make you

00:47:35.580 swim. 0.98

00:47:36.120 Like, I don't even know how many fucking laps. 0.99

00:47:38.080 Yeah. 0.99

00:47:38.540 It was like four and up and down is one.

00:47:41.420 An Olympic size swimming pool.

00:47:43.220 Girl.

00:47:43.600 I'm, and I'm so tall, by the way, I just started walking and I was just moving my arms and they

00:47:47.960 were like, don't walk, don't walk.

00:47:49.120 And then I was thinking to myself, they can't tell I'm walking as if I'm not standing straight

00:47:52.860 up.

00:47:53.320 Your head's just like above the water.

00:47:54.600 And then guess what they did?

00:47:55.600 Sent me home early. 1.00

00:47:56.780 They said, hey, try again next year, bitch. 1.00

00:47:58.540 Yeah. 1.00

00:47:59.280 No.

00:47:59.560 And then I got really sick cause I drank way too much pool water.

00:48:02.600 So found out pretty quickly.

00:48:03.900 Not the, not the sport for me.

00:48:05.840 So it's a hard sport. 1.00

00:48:06.940 Me and this were like, what a stupid sport. 1.00

00:48:09.020 I hate that sport. 1.00

00:48:10.500 Fuck that fucking sport. 1.00

00:48:11.420 It's not even, why do they do that? 1.00

00:48:13.020 It's cause I'm typically good at every sport, but that one, fuck that man. 1.00

00:48:17.600 Water. 1.00

00:48:17.920 Have you ever played water polo?

00:48:18.780 I've no, I couldn't. 1.00

00:48:21.600 I don't, you got to tread water that whole time while being cold on that shit. 1.00

00:48:25.920 And you, and you get mushed. 1.00

00:48:27.640 Your face gets mushed in that sport too.

00:48:29.900 No, I'm not a big fan of sports where they scratch.

00:48:31.960 Yeah.

00:48:32.320 They pull you down. 1.00

00:48:33.460 They'll like put their hand on top of your head and like use you as a fucking leverage. 0.99

00:48:38.200 I can barely breathe in air, you know, like not in a pool. 0.98

00:48:41.600 They call it an egg beater when you're doing that little thing that keeps you above the,

00:48:45.540 I'm good.

00:48:46.540 No.

00:48:46.920 Hey, get out of my face. 1.00

00:48:47.900 I'm not doing that. 0.99

00:48:48.680 No fucking way. 0.99

00:48:49.740 Okay. 0.99

00:48:50.000 This next video, this says this video is from the account rugby pass.

00:48:55.060 It's a fan cam style edit of the Australia rugby women's sevens team with the caption,

00:49:00.640 taking sevens rugby by storm.

00:49:03.420 And in the comments, we're very angry about it.

00:49:05.500 This one says it's so painful to watch any women play sport, play sport. 1.00

00:49:10.940 That's funny.

00:49:11.840 Play sport.

00:49:12.880 Okay.

00:49:13.280 Play sport.

00:49:13.980 Girl, girl play sport.

00:49:15.520 Oh, so painful.

00:49:16.600 I hate watching women who are better than me. 1.00

00:49:18.320 It's something I wish I could do.

00:49:19.520 You don't have to watch it.

00:49:21.020 Don't watch it.

00:49:22.020 Honestly, when you're a hater, everything's painful to watch.

00:49:24.440 Ugh.

00:49:24.960 Don't you think?

00:49:25.600 They hate it.

00:49:26.340 I think if some.

00:49:27.200 They get some angry. 0.99

00:49:27.500 Yeah, like when I'm a fucking, when I'm on some hater shit, everything bothers me. 0.99

00:49:32.840 Yeah. 0.99

00:49:33.060 I'm like, look at him just standing there being nice to me.

00:49:36.340 And I'm a hater.

00:49:37.640 I'm like, I think most men, if they admitted they were haters, their life would probably

00:49:40.440 be a lot easier.

00:49:42.000 This one says, pretty sure no one watches because of their abilities.

00:49:48.660 So I.

00:49:50.180 Okay.

00:49:50.560 So he's saying they watch because women are hot.

00:49:52.420 I'm assuming.

00:49:53.200 First off.

00:49:53.700 Yeah, we are hot.

00:49:55.320 Yeah.

00:49:55.600 And that's not what they say, is it, when they watch women dominate?

00:49:59.440 No.

00:50:00.020 That's not.

00:50:00.680 That's actually the opposite of what they say.

00:50:02.340 Thank you.

00:50:03.060 Thank you so much for saying.

00:50:04.300 But it's like, and that's what I'm saying that I'm really passionate about is like being

00:50:07.340 able to bring that femininity into sports. 1.00

00:50:09.640 And because these guys that just believe, oh, you're wearing makeup and play rugby.

00:50:13.180 Well, you can't.

00:50:13.960 There's no way you're good at rugby.

00:50:15.400 Actually, the best rugby players in the world has a full beat on.

00:50:17.980 Yeah, girl. 0.99

00:50:18.580 And she's out there killing it.

00:50:19.880 And there's like athletes like Flojo.

00:50:22.100 Yeah.

00:50:22.380 I mean, like Sha'Carri Richardson, who have nails, lashes, hair. 1.00

00:50:25.600 Like all that full beat, fastest woman in the world. 1.00

00:50:28.340 Yeah.

00:50:28.840 Is foundation making you slower?

00:50:30.620 Yeah.

00:50:31.460 It doesn't allow you to pass when you got mascara on.

00:50:34.700 Girl, I know.

00:50:35.840 That's why I was like, some men, when they make comments about, especially about makeup

00:50:39.700 in like the gym, when they're playing sport.

00:50:42.160 Like, yeah. 1.00

00:50:42.680 What do you give a fuck? 1.00

00:50:43.820 What do you care? 1.00

00:50:44.820 Well, I will say like when I, you know, younger, I think because of just of like how, you

00:50:48.460 know, society, whenever girls would wear full, I remember in college, well, it was 0.98

00:50:51.620 a little crazy.

00:50:51.980 She was wearing like full makeup.

00:50:53.180 And when you're in the scrum, it kind of gets messed up.

00:50:55.240 So I was always like, okay.

00:50:56.800 And she would wear like a, it would be a white jersey.

00:50:58.820 So it would be like the foundation everywhere.

00:51:01.320 So I was like, she's so me.

00:51:02.820 That's kind of different.

00:51:03.700 She's so me.

00:51:04.440 Yeah.

00:51:04.840 I'm like, all right, girlfriend, like do it.

00:51:06.580 But I never really understood it.

00:51:07.500 But now I think I respect it.

00:51:09.980 And I love seeing girls.

00:51:11.000 Like I wear lipstick when I play, seeing girls put a full face on because it's like this 1.00

00:51:14.780 idea that you've have to, if you play sports, you have to kind of sacrifice your

00:51:17.860 femininity. 1.00

00:51:18.460 Like me, if you just be a masculine out there, I'm like, no, you can be, I can tackle her 0.99

00:51:22.300 and also have a beautiful lip on. 1.00

00:51:24.100 And wear a fucking lily lash. 1.00

00:51:26.120 A defined lip. 1.00

00:51:26.580 Yeah. 1.00

00:51:27.060 And I'll have Ardell Whispies glued to my fucking eyes. 0.99

00:51:30.380 And what of it? 1.00

00:51:31.200 What of it?

00:51:31.800 I think that's even better.

00:51:32.640 I think it's, I think it's great too.

00:51:34.240 Cause even when men comment on makeup, I'm like, some of you men need to learn how to

00:51:37.900 use some makeup.

00:51:38.600 Yeah.

00:51:39.040 Maybe you should get into it, girl. 0.98

00:51:40.420 It's okay.

00:51:40.800 You can cover that.

00:51:41.880 Yeah.

00:51:42.440 Yeah.

00:51:42.900 Yeah.

00:51:43.100 If you really wanted to, you could.

00:51:44.480 If you really wanted to.

00:51:45.700 Yeah.

00:51:45.880 Don't hate the player.

00:51:46.920 Hate the game.

00:51:48.040 Okay.

00:51:48.240 This last one says men's team with braids.

00:51:51.980 I'm assuming you're saying they're all men.

00:51:53.360 Yeah.

00:51:53.800 Classic.

00:51:54.300 And they have braids.

00:51:56.280 Well, okay.

00:51:58.200 Yeah.

00:51:58.580 That was a good one.

00:51:59.740 That was funny.

00:52:00.760 I, I giggled.

00:52:02.220 That's why sometimes I think when they write that, I feel like I imagine them typing it

00:52:05.760 out and being like, that's crazy.

00:52:08.400 And what's so crazy is like, obviously not big dog.

00:52:12.140 Look at them.

00:52:13.100 Didn't you just say that they're women, so you don't respect them as athletes? 1.00

00:52:15.880 What? 1.00

00:52:16.260 You fucking man. 1.00

00:52:17.380 Yeah. 1.00

00:52:17.980 Which is it?

00:52:19.000 Pick one.

00:52:19.500 I'm getting the, the messaging is, we're getting mixed signals.

00:52:22.740 Yeah.

00:52:23.200 Cause they're like, they only watch cause women are hot. 1.00

00:52:25.580 And then they're like, you're not hot.

00:52:26.980 You're a man.

00:52:28.620 I'm confused.

00:52:29.220 You need to sort something else out.

00:52:30.480 And yet you're still, and you have something you got to figure out.

00:52:33.160 I'm like, and through all of that, you're still unemployed.

00:52:35.020 So what are we doing here?

00:52:36.320 What exactly are we talking about?

00:52:37.540 Who are you really mad at?

00:52:39.020 It's tough.

00:52:39.920 Tough for them.

00:52:40.620 What would you say has been like the most rewarding thing from being able to, uh, platform

00:52:46.400 your athletic career and also kind of spin it into a social career too?

00:52:50.000 I think it's what I've been able to do for like girls and their own body confidence, their

00:52:55.020 own, uh, self image.

00:52:57.280 Because I would have loved to have somebody, I think like this when I was growing up, somebody

00:53:01.520 with this bill with these shoulders and, um, who still feels, you know, very feminine

00:53:06.760 and wears a dress and doesn't feel like I have to hide my shoulders.

00:53:08.880 Like recently I just had one of my teammates, she was like covering her shoulders and I was

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00:54:13.080 I don't really like showing my shoulders.

00:54:14.540 You have the most beautiful shoulders ever.

00:54:16.400 They're so big.

00:54:17.160 But it's still happening.

00:54:19.260 Yeah.

00:54:19.360 And so for me, it's trying to show these girls that you can be all those things.

00:54:24.160 And it's like, my thing is, is that this is not changing.

00:54:27.780 These shoulders are not getting smaller.

00:54:29.840 This body's not getting any smaller.

00:54:31.320 It's just, I'm not going to change.

00:54:33.080 And it's like, yeah.

00:54:33.720 I think we're taught, oh, if you're skinnier, if you're this, you're that, it's going to

00:54:38.160 be better for you.

00:54:39.020 But you have to sometimes just accept it.

00:54:41.280 Like that's your body.

00:54:42.400 That's what you're working with and know what it can do and what it's capable of.

00:54:46.780 And hopefully just helping these girls to do that because rugby helped me. 1.00

00:54:52.300 Yeah.

00:54:52.640 And so if like, I like to say it's like a confidence pyramid scheme.

00:54:56.600 My teammate Nia was always very helpful with me.

00:54:58.920 She's a, she's like a tall, bigger girl as well. 1.00

00:55:00.880 And I just remember her really helping me with my confidence.

00:55:03.140 And then I've trickled down to help two other people with their confidence and hopefully

00:55:06.220 two other people can, you know, so it's like this big thing I'm running.

00:55:08.820 That's the MLM that you're running.

00:55:09.800 This big scheme I got going on.

00:55:11.880 So that's, I think what's been, because I've gotten a lot of lovely messages from girls

00:55:15.440 who are like, I see, you know, you, that's my body type to see what you're doing.

00:55:18.620 I just, it needs a lot.

00:55:20.060 Yeah, absolutely.

00:55:20.680 And I also think it's, it's another testament to how Eurocentric beauty standards have been 0.94

00:55:26.600 inflicted on all of us and not everybody is supposed to look a certain way.

00:55:30.940 Oh yeah.

00:55:31.320 And what's beautiful to one person may not be beautiful to the next.

00:55:34.200 So for any man to ever say that women are just inherently ugly because they don't look 1.00

00:55:37.800 like one specific person is a fallacy. 1.00

00:55:40.920 It's like, it's fucking stupid, but past that it's just objectively not true because like 0.99

00:55:46.020 not everybody finds the same people attractive. 1.00

00:55:48.200 So when they tried to impose these really harsh beauty standards on women, especially 1.00

00:55:51.660 about their bodies, it makes no fucking sense. 1.00

00:55:53.620 Cause first of all, all of the men who do that shit are under six feet. 0.99

00:55:56.400 They're not even doing the bare minimum of what they're supposed to look like, which 1.00

00:55:59.640 is be taller than me.

00:56:00.880 Yeah.

00:56:01.340 And you're not.

00:56:02.220 So.

00:56:02.660 And I will say with that too, I think sometimes look, men are the worst, but there's, there

00:56:08.000 are some men we got to give credit.

00:56:09.240 I think we're just told that men only like this one thing, but I mean, as you found, you have

00:56:13.000 an amazing boyfriend who loves you as you are, there's men that are going to like you

00:56:16.760 like that.

00:56:17.220 And there's men that are attracted to that.

00:56:18.820 Yeah.

00:56:19.120 And this idea that, Oh no, men only like the skinny.

00:56:22.140 Exactly.

00:56:22.540 Yeah.

00:56:22.700 In my experience, like that's not true. 1.00

00:56:24.060 Well, the men who are like that are fucking awful. 1.00

00:56:25.880 That's what I'm saying. 1.00

00:56:26.620 You don't want them, girl. 1.00

00:56:27.140 That sounds like that Venn diagram is a circle.

00:56:28.680 Like, don't worry about them. 1.00

00:56:29.680 Like there are many other men who don't give a fuck about shit like that. 1.00

00:56:32.800 And it's like, or they find it sexy and they find it hot. 1.00

00:56:34.940 Like they're attracted to it.

00:56:35.940 That's why I said, it's not the same for everyone. 0.99

00:56:37.900 So when men try to say this, they try to say blanket shit, like, Oh, men hate that. 0.99

00:56:42.080 No, not all men. 1.00

00:56:43.400 You not true.

00:56:44.400 You hate that. 1.00

00:56:45.220 And I hate you. 0.99

00:56:45.980 So it's fine. 0.99

00:56:46.580 Yeah. 0.99

00:56:46.860 It's the same thing when men are like, I would never fuck you. 0.99

00:56:48.980 Okay. 1.00

00:56:49.320 Same fucking twin. 1.00

00:56:50.880 What the fuck? 1.00

00:56:51.320 We're on the same page. 1.00

00:56:52.060 What are we arguing?

00:56:52.980 Let's dap up.

00:56:53.500 Also, it turns out we have a lot more in common than you think. 0.99

00:56:56.220 I also find you ugly. 0.96

00:56:58.040 So it works out. 0.91

00:56:59.080 Like, I just hate that lie that they're told, you know, like, Oh, they don't like the big shoulders

00:57:03.620 or like this.

00:57:04.160 No, it's actually not true.

00:57:05.360 I found many, many like that.

00:57:06.640 Many, many like bigger women. 0.99

00:57:07.500 So it's just like, yeah, these girls.

00:57:09.500 And that's why I just kind of try to share that as well.

00:57:11.880 Totally.

00:57:12.440 That you look, girl, that's what you're working with.

00:57:15.160 You got to accept it because people will love it.

00:57:18.400 But if you don't love yourself or accept yourself in a way, it'll actually get in the way of that.

00:57:23.700 Absolutely.

00:57:24.460 Yeah.

00:57:24.700 I've told people before because they're like, Oh, I wish I had your confidence.

00:57:27.660 I've told people you do.

00:57:29.140 You just got to give yourself permission to use it.

00:57:31.060 Yeah.

00:57:31.420 I gave myself permission a long fucking time ago and it's worked out for me.

00:57:34.840 So I highly suggest all of you do it.

00:57:37.240 Like, it's just, you're the only person standing in the way of that.

00:57:39.780 Yeah. 0.98

00:57:40.040 And never let men who are ugly and unemployed make you believe that you're ugly because 0.97

00:57:45.980 it's not true. 0.98

00:57:46.400 Yeah.

00:57:46.700 And like, have a support system.

00:57:48.940 Don't listen to them.

00:57:49.840 Listen to like the real people.

00:57:51.240 Absolutely.

00:57:51.600 My sisters, I listen to, my teammates, like real life, real life people.

00:57:54.760 Like who see you, you know, these men are like, Oh, you look like a man.

00:57:56.940 And then I go to the, the men on this, like my buddies on the men's team or the buddies,

00:58:01.100 my buddies on the circuit.

00:58:02.000 And I'm like, cause one time I, these comments are really getting me and I made a video about

00:58:06.260 it and I went up to, and we were out after a tournament and I was like talking to this

00:58:08.540 one guy that I know, like attractive, very attractive man.

00:58:10.700 I was like, you know, they're saying this.

00:58:11.560 And he's like, I've literally never thought that about you.

00:58:14.000 Like, and, and then I talked to some other guys.

00:58:15.800 It's like, no, I've never thought that.

00:58:17.360 No, of course not.

00:58:18.220 Like, it's just like, okay, here are these real life people who are hotter and more successful

00:58:22.300 than everybody and what they believe.

00:58:24.120 Yeah.

00:58:24.820 Well, and it's also, it's just a testament to like, a lot of times it's a projection.

00:58:28.340 So men feel like either they couldn't get you or they feel like you have something they 0.98

00:58:33.280 don't have, which is a successful career as an athlete, successful career online.

00:58:36.740 Like it's all a big projection.

00:58:39.560 That's all it is.

00:58:40.460 Jealousy.

00:58:40.780 It's just jealousy.

00:58:41.420 Yeah. 1.00

00:58:41.620 And then honestly, sometimes they do want to fuck you. 1.00

00:58:43.460 And that's been the case for me. 1.00

00:58:44.580 Scary. 0.99

00:58:45.040 That's all I was like, that line is razor thin, bitch, between love and hate. 1.00

00:58:48.800 So I was like the way something, and some men, like when they really talk shit, I mean, 0.99

00:58:52.300 lately they've been really on some shit about, about me. 0.99

00:58:55.400 I, they were saying like some shit about like, I'm scamming people. 0.99

00:58:58.000 They're like, oh, Drew's a scammer because she turns out she has a boyfriend. 0.99

00:59:03.600 And also, why are you guys acting like you're breaking the Watergate scandal, bitch? 1.00

00:59:06.760 Like the bitches in my comments know I have a man. 1.00

00:59:09.580 What the fuck? 1.00

00:59:10.420 Scamming them that you hate on? 1.00

00:59:11.880 Like I'm scamming single women into, cause I tell people to die alone and like to be 1.00

00:59:17.920 single forever, which I've literally never said.

00:59:19.900 Yeah.

00:59:20.400 And then they're like, and then women buy into it. 1.00

00:59:22.540 And turns out she's married.

00:59:24.360 I'm not even married.

00:59:25.040 So I don't know where they got that.

00:59:26.540 But I was like, okay, the only person getting taken advantage of in my business is awful

00:59:30.920 men.

00:59:31.400 Yeah. 1.00

00:59:31.720 Because they can't stop saying awful shit about me. 0.99

00:59:34.760 And then my career just continues to flourish. 0.99

00:59:36.560 Yeah.

00:59:36.760 Yeah.

00:59:36.880 Yeah.

00:59:37.040 So someone is being used.

00:59:38.180 It's just not women who love me.

00:59:39.500 It's for sure.

00:59:40.840 And my sister, whenever I get those mean comments, they're like, awesome.

00:59:43.900 Keep commenting.

00:59:44.660 Thank you for helping that.

00:59:45.520 Boosting that.

00:59:45.880 That's what I'm saying.

00:59:46.460 I love it.

00:59:47.320 Absolutely.

00:59:47.980 And that's why I was like, sometimes I'll be like, why is this on my for you page? 0.99

00:59:50.700 I'm like, well, now that you commented, I'll see you again, bitch. 1.00

00:59:52.740 Yeah. 1.00

00:59:53.840 See you next time.

00:59:54.920 Gotcha.

00:59:55.420 I'll see you in a little bit when you send me another hate comment.

00:59:57.460 Love you.

00:59:57.880 Love you there again.

00:59:59.080 Oh, that's crazy.

00:59:59.900 I'm so happy that you came on the show.

01:00:02.080 I'm grateful to have you as a representation of a very successful female athlete. 0.94

01:00:07.440 But also, I'm happy to have had you on the show.

01:00:09.220 You're amazing.

01:00:09.900 Thank you so much.

01:00:10.340 You're so great.

01:00:10.760 I do want to ask you one last question, though.

01:00:12.800 What would you say is your best piece of advice for any young girl who maybe is an athlete

01:00:18.540 now or wants to pursue being an athlete, but maybe a little intimidated when

01:00:22.740 it comes to how men may perceive them, especially when you're so successful in a physical sport? 1.00

01:00:29.480 Number one, fuck men. 1.00

01:00:31.000 Period. 1.00

01:00:31.560 I've been born.

01:00:33.120 Number two, I think I almost go back to the support system and having people around you,

01:00:41.740 having a team like that, rugby changed my life.

01:00:43.640 It made me accept my personality, accept my size.

01:00:46.440 I remember coming on to my first rugby pitch and they called me the big girl and I was like,

01:00:49.740 oh, I am the big girl.

01:00:50.520 And that's actually really respected there.

01:00:52.320 Yeah.

01:00:54.260 Three, I think it's important for women to find out what their body is capable of because 1.00

01:01:00.580 a lot of times as women, our bodies are almost there to be objectified by the media, by what 1.00

01:01:06.000 it is, and just to be looked at.

01:01:08.580 And I think doing a sport and finding out what your body is capable of and it's not just

01:01:11.980 something for people to judge and to dissect is really important.

01:01:16.100 And so take this, these sports as a way to see that your body can do so much more.

01:01:22.360 Totally.

01:01:22.840 Whether it's like golf or pickleball or lift a weight.

01:01:28.100 Yeah.

01:01:28.520 Just take, really be in your body because that is your body.

01:01:32.360 That's your personality.

01:01:33.420 That's who you are.

01:01:34.320 And I guess learn to, whether it's love, whether it's accept, just get to know it.

01:01:42.140 Period.

01:01:42.760 I love that.

01:01:43.420 Thank you so much for the wonderful advice and for being amazing.

01:01:47.520 Also, if you're looking for a man, now's the time.

01:01:50.640 Do you have any crushes that you want to, you want to shout out, want to be bold?

01:01:53.780 I wish I did.

01:01:55.120 I need to like, get on.

01:01:56.200 I try to tell my, like, I go to my friends, like, y'all know anybody I got to DM?

01:02:00.800 Anybody I should hit up to?

01:02:02.260 I don't, I don't know anybody.

01:02:03.760 I don't, I haven't DM'd anybody. 1.00

01:02:05.380 Girl, use that blue check mark till the wheels fall off, bitch. 1.00

01:02:08.240 But I, I was just telling my sister that the other day because my sister is in the, is 1.00

01:02:11.940 in the market for a WNBA wife. 1.00

01:02:14.040 If anyone is interested, let me know.

01:02:16.500 Go ahead and slide in my inbox and I'll pass you off.

01:02:18.740 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:02:19.200 If you pass my test.

01:02:20.800 Also slide in hers if you're interested in me.

01:02:22.460 Yeah, and Alona as well.

01:02:24.200 I'll use that as well.

01:02:25.260 Please.

01:02:25.600 But that's why, I was telling my sister, I'm like, dude, the way I would, if I was single,

01:02:29.360 I'd be abusing the hell out of that thing.

01:02:31.060 I'd just be DMing anyone that, hey, you want me?

01:02:34.640 Yeah, check yes or no.

01:02:36.000 Yeah.

01:02:36.820 Hey, I'm sending a quick survey your way.

01:02:38.700 If you could, I need to use it more.

01:02:40.600 Do you want me?

01:02:40.940 Yes or no?

01:02:41.460 I need to use it more.

01:02:42.260 I just have not, even while we were joking about it, like, at the Olympics, I genuinely thought,

01:02:45.980 I was like, there's going to be so many athletes in my DMs after this.

01:02:49.160 I'm going to be fighting them off.

01:02:50.620 Nothing.

01:02:51.600 So I just got to get on it and really see what I can do.

01:02:54.200 Sometimes they're a little nervy, though.

01:02:55.840 Maybe they get a little nervy.

01:02:56.320 Well, and we have extra personality things, so I got to keep making the first move.

01:03:00.100 Ugh.

01:03:00.740 Ugh.

01:03:01.400 I will, though.

01:03:02.020 Yeah.

01:03:02.260 But no, I'll see what I can do.

01:03:03.380 I'm going to put in some work, I think.

01:03:04.800 Okay.

01:03:05.500 If you're, do you like athletes?

01:03:07.060 Do you like anyone in particular?

01:03:07.960 Any box?

01:03:08.640 At this point.

01:03:09.820 Just any.

01:03:11.260 Just getting up there.

01:03:12.720 As long as you're not awful.

01:03:13.780 If you can, like, have a conversation.

01:03:15.900 And you're just not awful.

01:03:16.740 And maybe, like, can laugh at a joke.

01:03:19.940 Yeah.

01:03:20.440 Slide in.

01:03:20.620 Isn't that such a bummer?

01:03:21.700 Slide in.

01:03:22.120 That's all straight women's standards. 1.00

01:03:23.640 Are you intellectual?

01:03:24.920 Can you- 0.92

01:03:25.120 Have you killed anybody in the last year? 0.87

01:03:26.780 Okay. 0.96

01:03:27.040 All right, you're for me.

01:03:28.940 I love you.

01:03:29.620 Let's go on a date.

01:03:30.520 Yeah.

01:03:30.800 See you at the Cheesecake Factory.

01:03:32.060 I think that if you are interested in Ilona, let me know.

01:03:34.940 If y'all would rather reach out to me, that's fine.

01:03:37.340 I'll play telephone.

01:03:38.640 But I'm rooting for you.

01:03:39.740 Thank you so much.

01:03:40.260 Maybe you'll find your love in Tokyo.

01:03:43.420 Paris.

01:03:43.860 Paris.

01:03:44.520 Hello?

01:03:45.220 I tried Tokyo that way.

01:03:45.960 Paris.

01:03:46.520 I'm really just hoping-

01:03:47.280 You said I tried Tokyo, it didn't work there.

01:03:48.500 Didn't work.

01:03:49.780 I'll try again.

01:03:50.860 Yeah, Paris.

01:03:51.440 But most of the time-

01:03:51.860 The city of love.

01:03:52.860 I know.

01:03:53.600 Okay, period, Ilona.

01:03:55.260 Probably won't work.

01:03:57.040 We're going to see, though.

01:03:57.880 Fingers crossed, everyone.

01:03:59.280 Yeah.

01:03:59.840 We're rooting for a medal and a man.

01:04:01.900 Medal and a man.

01:04:02.440 Oh, that's so good!

01:04:04.660 I'm going to use that.

01:04:05.500 I'd love that.

01:04:06.400 Thank you.

01:04:06.680 Yeah, make that your-

01:04:07.360 That's your new thing for Paris.

01:04:08.900 New series, Medal and a Man.

01:04:10.340 There you go.

01:04:11.880 Thank you so much for coming on the show.

01:04:13.500 I adore you.

01:04:13.900 You're amazing.

01:04:14.620 Thank you so much for having me.

01:04:14.840 I'm wishing all the success, and I'm going to root for your medal and your man.

01:04:17.860 And thank you all for joining us on this episode of the Comment Section Show.

01:04:21.040 Where can everybody find you, Miss Ilona?

01:04:23.120 I am on all the apps at Ilona Mar.

01:04:26.340 I-L-O-N-A-M-A-H-E-R. 1.00

01:04:28.480 Period.

01:04:29.240 And, like, other things?

01:04:32.060 I don't know.

01:04:32.560 What do I do?

01:04:32.920 TikTok?

01:04:33.340 Instagram?

01:04:34.220 All of the things.

01:04:35.340 I- yeah.

01:04:36.360 She's an athlete full-time.

01:04:37.440 I'm there. 0.73

01:04:38.000 I'm a dickhead on the internet full-time, and she's an athlete full-time. 0.95

01:04:40.780 Yes. 0.76

01:04:41.300 And then sometimes I say funny things.

01:04:42.420 Yeah.

01:04:42.580 Well, make sure y'all go follow Ilona on everything, and make sure you follow her journey when

01:04:46.920 she goes to Paris, which I'm rooting for.

01:04:49.180 Woo-hoo! 1.00

01:04:49.900 And thank you all so much for joining us on this week's episode.

01:04:52.120 Don't forget, new episodes of the Comment Section drop every Wednesday.

01:04:54.980 You can stream the audio on all streaming platforms, or you can watch the video exclusively,

01:04:58.140 and for free on our favorite platform, Spotify.

01:05:00.280 Thank you so much to my guest, Ilona.

01:05:02.120 Thank you all so much for joining us, and I'll see you next week.

01:05:04.260 Bye!

The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - July 03, 2024

A MEDAL AND A MAN Ft. Ilona Maher

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