CHECK YOUR PLAYLIST RATIO Ft. Tinashe ｜ The Comment Section Ep. 87
Summary
In this episode of the Comment Section Show, I chat with singer/songwriter Tinashe about Halloween, costumes, and what it's like dressing up as a poop emoji for halloween. Oh, and we also talk about the time Halsey told me she's overrated.
Transcript
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i don't trust anyone who says beyonce's overrated at all at all like immediately i i blacked out
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after that rest of that conversation i didn't hear a word okay nothing else next what's it
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like being so wrong hey everyone and welcome back to another episode of the comment section show
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sorry me your fave everybody knows me and today i am a traffic light it's halloween bitch on my
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show i pick the world's worst costumes and i wear them to the show and i don't tell my guests so my
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guest isn't dressed up as anything speaking of the guests we have the wonderful the amazing the
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iconic the legendary tinashe hey how's it going good how are you good thanks for having me oh my
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gosh of course i'm fired up to have i wish i wore a costume you know i don't like to tell people
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because i feel like they feel they get to feel too pressured okay and that's why i was like i'll be
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something really ugly for both of us okay i like it though i think it's cute oh my gosh thank you so
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much men's section target if you're interested tinashe i'll let you have it on the way out okay
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great i don't have my costumes picked out yet so traffic light it hits every time good to know it
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also lights up but i can't find the button so oh wait here we go let's let's take her for a spin
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how embarrassing she literally broke i was afraid to get to anyways on to nobody gives a fuck about
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my costume on to you i am so honored to have you i'm a huge fan thanks for having me and i have
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something vulnerable to share with you tinashe okay when i was in college i had so many of your
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songs really on all my little thotty playlists period yes i was shaking ass i love that for me
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i love it for you i love it for us your song link up thanks yep i put all the bitches on thank you i
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said turn it up and put that song on thanks it hits every time it does i'm a huge fan thank you so much
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and how have you been lately i know you just came up with an album yeah just dropped like maybe a couple
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weeks ago so it feels very fresh i'm excited about it i'm always just on to the next like putting out
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new music you know ready to tour and get on the road absolutely going on tour so that's really how
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exciting is it solo tour do you have well it's with shy girl oh okay that's really fun oh how fun
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it's gonna be like a great link up yeah link up bad bitches link up exactly it's gonna be girls
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get it get it yeah yeah how exciting when does your tour start um october 28th oh my gosh right in
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spooky season right right on time look at us time yeah so i don't know what i'm gonna wear
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for halloween yet do you do costumes at shows that's what i have to that's always fun you know
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yeah because you gotta think like logistically because you're a big dancer too yeah i mean it
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has to be able to be movable yeah you know do you like being stuff that's like unique i like to be
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yeah i like to go for something that's kind of like outside the box i feel you same something that
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people wouldn't expect yeah but sometimes i don't put in the effort to like actually come up with
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that idea i feel you and then i get stuck with like the last minute like we're going to party city
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we're grabbing whatever we can find that's left over so yeah a couple years ago i was the poop emoji
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oh love that it was an inflatable one or was it just the it had like a it had like a fan that
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like pumped me up so all night like i was like dancing it would just refill so that was great i
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think that's always that was probably like peak yeah when you're like your most comfy yeah time no
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one can see anything but my face it was a vibe that's fucking awesome i went to halsey's halloween
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party period a celebrity one is even funnier yeah it was good yeah you show up did they have a
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carpet and then i took a picture with tovlo and then i think like years later i started a concert
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oh um and she was like were you the poop she's like oh the poop i remember you yeah for sure
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she's like i could i could never forget you yeah it's an icebreaker yeah and they'll never forget
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you right and it was comfy and then you could just dance all night just absolutely can you imagine
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getting schooled in a dance panel by a poop emoji yeah that would be that would be really embarrassing
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it's a big one of these i'd take one of those home big one yeah massive i'm glad you like a fun
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costume i love a fun costume i think i think halloween's fun i think it's a good time i told
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i was just telling her that i was the hulk last year and my boyfriend was the hulk too
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and everyone was like aren't they cousins and i was like well they're make-believe so yeah who knows
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so this is our version of the hulk yeah i'm like well even if they were what are you gonna do about it
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nothing just kidding that's okay they're make-believe the hulks are not real so it's all
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right yeah last year i was dennis rodman but that's awesome yeah it was fun yeah i went for like a
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classic fit but it was also one of those where you kind of had to explain it to people because
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everyone thought i was ice spice because i had like a little like a little i try to do like a
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low cut so i had like a little wig yeah and then they were like oh who are you ice spice i was
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like no i'm dennis rodman i'm ice spice dressed as dennis rodman right that's what you should
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there's a lot of layers to this costume so so this year i i'm hoping to not go for something that
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i have to explain i feel like my initial instinct was to be that girl on the plane
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the girl that girl hey that's funny hey that's funny but then i was like i'm gonna have to the
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whole night i'm gonna have to be like but then you get then you get to say the quote though
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all night girl hold on let me say the quote you'll know exactly who i am anytime someone's like who
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are you i just think right now i'm telling you that that motherfucker is not real man and you know
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what i got the slick back yeah a skinny jean a black rubber flip-flop like a tank tank top and like
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a tote bag yeah i think that's funny i think that's so funny as like a dickhead on tiktok i
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find that hilarious yeah i think that's a great and then you get a shout out to her though
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all night then i know but i would be so yeah that's that's an option i do think you're right
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though as far as like having to explain it over and over again it's not one of those instant like
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someone sees me walking down the street they're gonna be like oh the girl from the plane you know
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yeah and i kind of want that instant boom gratification uh when i was a freshman i think
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in college i lived in hawaii and on halloween everyone just goes into town and just walks in
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their costumes like it was like a huge thing and so um my friends and i were spring breakers that year
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because that sounds fun because that movie had just come out so we just wore bathing suits and
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we bought hot pink beanies and just cut the holes in them perfect and then we just wore them all night
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and it was big hit but one of my friends got too fucked up before we left so she forgot to cut
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her holes so she was just a dickhead and a beanie and okay they were like so spring breakers and what
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is she supposed to what is she it was literally like the holes in the beanie made the biggest
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difference like she was just wearing it on her head it went from specific to like yeah they were
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like and friend spring breakers and friend that's a good costume though i love a group costume that's
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an easy one if you want to like do that on stage you're welcome i don't have tm a good i don't have
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a big enough girl squad you don't think not even on uh on tour but then you gotta dance in a bikini
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though yeah that's a commitment i gotta think of a full squad costume you right i should really
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really like get serious about this if you do that i'd like credit tinaje if that's cool i'll show you
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just make sure tm tm tm i got you so i'm so happy you're here and i'm so happy you just dropped new
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music like i said i've been a big fan for a while so i'm happy that everyone's getting fed hell yeah
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yourself once again thank you yeah it's so fun yeah i'm excited about the new stuff i think
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it has like stuff you can dance to stuff that you feel really sexy to it's got like the whole range
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yeah absolutely feelings as someone who's been in the music industry for a minute like do you see
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a huge shift in like how music is marketed like especially with things like tiktok in the works
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yeah or how it's like even like released because i feel like sometimes people tease stuff and they
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see how it does and then if it doesn't perform well they don't drop it kind of thing it's an entirely
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different landscape than i think when i first started making music and just to see how quickly
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it's changing is it's really interesting because it always makes you have to adapt and i think that
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that's that's cool and it's it's good to be aware of the changes but i think when i first got in the
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game you know there was people were selling physical copies of albums like you're looking at
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much more long-term rollouts more long-term you know just eras and i think now obviously with
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consumer culture everything is so much quicker so much faster consume so much quicker yeah the audience
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is ready for more at such a faster rate and you're constantly basically just playing a game of like
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maintaining relevancy in a marketplace and kind of balancing when you maintain that relevancy when you
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kind of step away to kind of re you know group as an artist because you have to have those moments
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as well where you're like in the studio and just like in your vibe and yeah so it's just yeah it's
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always it's always changing yeah do you think i'm so curious do you think it's like harder now since
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you said like it's so much faster like everyone needs it a lot quicker and they need more faster yeah
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do you think it's harder to kind of like find new sounds like fine because you know i'm assuming you
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have to evolve as an artist right but to still keep like the genesis of like what you love like
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what genre you are or whatever yeah but um do you think it's harder to evolve as an artist i think
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yeah i think you kind of touched on an interesting point because i do think that there's something to
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be said for when artists feel some type of momentum just wanting to continue to put out the same type of
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product over and over again yeah because i think it you you know you want to continue to keep the
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ball rolling you don't want to kind of like stop that and like take a step back to like really kind
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of reevaluate your position as an artist but i think at the end of the day who you are at a core
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yeah i think that'll translate through your music regardless if it comes from a really genuine place
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so whether you're making something that sounds you know like something you've done in the past or
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like something totally fresh and different if it comes from you know a real place of you know this
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is what i love or like this is this is my artistry this is really true to who i am and i'm not trying
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to follow any trends i think as soon as you try that's when you mess up like as soon as you're like
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oh let me chase what the charts sound like let me try to make something that sounds hot or like let
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let me make something like a particular bpm that you know they're playing in the clubs right now
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i think that's when you mess up you gotta just let all those yeah stick to what people love you
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for in the first place just stick to what you love yeah stick to what's true to you if you want to
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evolve evolve if you want to do something that feels familiar do that but like i think that when it comes
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from you that's people can tell the difference yeah i think audiences are a lot smarter than people
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think sometimes so they can tell when they're like they can sniff it out yeah and they are rabid music fans
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are rabid i feel like god did me a service not giving me any sort of musical gift literally at
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all i cannot sing for shit not even a little bit i wish i could yeah but i think i'd be too powerful
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too powerful i think it'd be an unchecked power it's true but i'd also like freak the fuck out i would
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get really really stressed out really quickly i think because the industry moves so quickly and it's
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it's a tough it's a tough business yeah it's tough and you have to have both a thick skin and
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like a really strong sense of who you are yeah because it's very easy to get deterred by just
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conversation whether it's like from the public or yeah absolutely people what was your like uh
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when did you really start like making music like professionally like what age well i was in a girl
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group when i was 14 so that was when i started like recording in studios yeah like seeing how
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that process worked and so i guess that was when i professionally started making music i was 14 15 16
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so i was in that group group for maybe four years oh wow and taught me a lot taught me a lot because i
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had no music experience prior to that other than you know i mean like in the school orchestra yeah just
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like singing yeah but never professionally yeah and um that's young 14s yeah no for sure but it it
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it jump-started me into this whole mindset like okay this is great i'm going to use this as like my
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jump-off point i'm going to use this experience that i've built i um put a studio in my bedroom and
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started recording my music there and that's basically how i just started my career i put things online and
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then i went so i remember the first song i heard of yours was two on yes love that classic classic i
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love two on two on it's a hit it really is hit after hit it's it's stood the test of time yeah do you
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still hear it now is it weird to hear your own stuff now especially your old stuff um i wouldn't
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say it's weird not anymore huh no it's nice it's cool i was so curious if it's like you know when you
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record yourself for the first time and then you hear your voice and you're like i'm the ugliest person
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on planet earth yeah i was curious if that happens with music artists i i think what you notice is
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like how you sound different from what music in the past no like music that you've recorded in the past
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like music record now yeah and you're like oh this is a much different vibe yeah just i don't know i
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sound different a little like you just hear it i love that i think that's great i don't know anything
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about music literally at all i have no guess you should come hang out in the studio girl don't
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turn me with a good time you say in the studio i did play the flute in middle school nice i played
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the violin oh nice a strings girl love that for you also big fan of your jealous remix oh period big
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fan everyone says that's their favorite version yeah you know what's funny is sometimes uh one of my
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hair and makeup artists i was he was like who are you guys today i was like oh it's tina shay and he
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goes oh uh she's on the jealous remix i was like yeah and he goes of jealous yeah i love that he was
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like that's the only version of that song i like and i said t t bitch shout out to nick jay and tina shay
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okay so speaking of you being in the industry right today what our topic is we're going to be
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talking about why female music artists are held to a much higher standard oh of course which in many
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many many different ways as per usual women are women are in general especially in um i feel like
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high visibility industries so like any sort of entertainment whether it's like music
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modeling acting whatever it may be um i feel like it's it's the same kind of energy where
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if women like female artists aren't like doing the absolute most like with costuming staging dancing
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singing uh then they're like ah it's not that good but then you have men who just stand there
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and a normal t-shirt and jeans and they play for yeah two hours straight no breaks no fun stuff
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it's just very standard absolutely like oh he's so deep he's such a cultured artist
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you know he doesn't need all the fancy shit oh my gosh just a genius um yeah i mean i think that
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that comes from a culture of you know competition when it comes to women yeah i feel like we've
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been cultured you know from time society has made us believe that we have to compete against one
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another yeah in order to like have a seat at the table because there's not so many seats yeah so i think
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that when it comes to why women have to be exceptional it's because you know there's that
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we feel as if there isn't room for less yeah absolutely like you won't be seen otherwise
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yeah or rewarded for your hard work or anything yeah absolutely it's very like women are
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required to be exceptional and men are allowed to be mediocre oh yeah all the time in many different
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ways anyways and i and i also think too it's like because you're also like a dancer too so you dance
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and you sing yeah and there are some women that don't dance at all for sure some of them do all of
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it and some of them do none of it and i think it's like it's like when they have not great costumes or
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they don't dance or whatever it's just criticism yeah i mean i think it's it's interesting because i do
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think that depending on like how you present in the industry definitely has an effect over like your
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audience and like which spaces you can potentially maintain and i think that that's always an
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interesting like thought that probably a woman has to face when she goes into thinking like okay
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what's my brand like what am i selling here like what does my art say and like how am i packaging this
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and the fact that we even have to like take those things into consideration like men probably do not
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they're just like here's my art and they just kind of like spit it out yeah um but yeah i think that
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that's something that we definitely have to consider whether it is giving this like great
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perform big you know live performance or it's having like a very intimate performance or it's
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like super stripped back or you're going no makeup or you're going really natural like all those things
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say a lot about a woman you know in terms of like how culture perceives them and i think that
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also how they perceive their music as well so that's yeah and it's kind of like what you said too
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where um it also fuels consumers to compare so it's not just you feeling like you have to compare
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it's like you're going to be compared so that's why like they're like well take so and so and take
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so so like they're so different and it's like they could be very different genres they could be
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different vibes entirely i think like when you don't know how to dance and you don't dance that's
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cool yeah with that sure a lot of arms that's cool i don't care there has to be space for
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everyone that's what you gotta do there is that's that's that's probably like the biggest
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lie that you know we subscribe to is that there isn't space for everyone there absolutely is like
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being able to see artists of all different types and colors of the rainbow and into different things
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like that's what gives us a well-rounded you know creative landscape i think that's so important but
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it's it's it's you know it's this lie that we feel that okay there's only enough room for the two of us
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yeah three of us like how are we gonna yeah and i feel like it's yeah it's truly that's men's fault
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i blame them for everything that's kind of my thing men are gonna clip that and be like see she
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fucking set it was a joke relax it was a joke okay for those of you who are new what we do here
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on the comment section is i bring videos that i was tagged in and then we talk about them they're
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applicable to our topic and we laugh kiki cute fun okay so in this first video i just have to
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describe them in this video a man on a podcast oh bad start says he thinks beyonce is overrated
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right with quotes he says her fans are annoying and that she has so many people doing work for her
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cooking and cleaning for her basically implying that she has so much free time to make music
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because other people are doing work for her um what does that have to do with not liking the music
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what does that sounds like just hate that's hater yeah it's a hater bitch hater i don't trust anyone
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who says beyonce is overrated at all at all like immediately i i blacked out after that
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rest of that conversation i just said in your word okay nothing else next what's it like being so
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wrong yeah i just i just tune you out like you turn into wallpaper at that point so like being so
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incredibly fucking wrong did you go see beyonce on tour i didn't i was you know what's so crazy
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i was like in my mind i was like oh i'll just like get tickets like they'll just they'll just like
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appear because like somehow i i usually just get lucky and like i just get tickets manifest it
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i did not get beyonce tickets no one gave me beyonce tickets if you're watching this make sure you
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get and yeah so i'm gonna have to like go yeah i'm gonna have to fly somewhere or something you
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should i know i recommend it did you see it here yes i saw her twice here cookie i saw her the second
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and the birthday show damn period love that okay they asked me like i i remember when i when i went
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the second time i went with her new hair brand that's coming out i don't know what's her hair
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like she hasn't dropped anything what's the tea it's just like i literally have so so many people
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on the when we posted about it like me and the other people that were invited uh a lot of people
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were like why do they keep calling it beyonce's hair brand that's so cheesy they literally told me i had
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to call it that because i don't know the name they wouldn't tell any of us oh so we don't know
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the name secret yeah we don't know the name of it we don't know what it is like what products are
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coming out if they are i love advertising a brand that no one knows the name it's real secret so
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very very secret chic i know and i met uh tina knolls which is really cool sick she's nice beautiful
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woman that doesn't surprise me at all no literally i'm like big fan of your work by your work i mean
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by your work i mean your daughter and she laughed win for me nice but even like i when i saw her
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the second time i was like they were like oh do you want to go again i'm like yeah yeah i'll go again
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24 hours later i'd go and i went again the cried like it was the first time i saw it period
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such a big fan of hers i think people are like i genuinely i was like i don't think there's um
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many if not any artists in the world alive or dead that could be on the same level as her
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oh yeah yeah i think that's real name them on one hand like
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there is not many but i feel like men who criticize her immediately know immediately know
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i'm not listening not even a little bit i wouldn't listen to however you identify listen there's certain
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there's certain conversations that like i'll argue with you about like i'll back and forth with you
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about but then there's certain ones that like if i hear an opinion that's like just too dumb like
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i don't i won't argue with you like you can't you can't argue with an idiot so if someone says
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that it's just like okay what's it like being fucking stupid can't relate can't relate what's
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your sign aquarius love that love that i love aquarius women aquarius men i agree aquarius man i'm like
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i don't i can't i don't clean them yeah same i'm a virgo so i don't claim virgo men
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tight virgo men the devil i don't really know any virgo men you don't
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okay okay okay explain no i'm just kidding i'm just kidding i'm just kidding i'm just kidding
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that was not unrelated to my devil comment i was talking about a different different virgo man i've
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interacted with okay but i just think that i would kill um another virgo man like if i i could never
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like be in a relationship with another virgo man there's no way we'd kill each other but like
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signs on like same signs it's kind of weird it is it's very strange yeah every time someone tells
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me they're the same sign as their significant other i'm like and you're okay with that it just
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makes it just makes me like it just gives me pause you know that's fair that's fair virgo men i
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always describe them as like i feel like virgo men are like you know when there's like a children's
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birthday party and like there's a pinata and then there's one grown man who gets in line oh and then
00:24:11.240
he's like too rough with the pinata that's a virgo that man's a virgo he he actually smashes it in the
00:24:16.780
kids probably too much it's too much like that's a virgo you didn't get to like when you play a board
00:24:21.120
game and he flips the board game because he's losing all the pieces that's a virgo man
00:24:24.980
yeah i just feel like virgo men are too competitive in big noodles and i would know
00:24:29.560
because i am a virgo okay and i can't handle that ick in a man yeah i'm pretty competitive too
00:24:34.220
are you yeah that's a good thing yeah i love that okay that's why you're so successful true do you
00:24:40.220
have any virgo in your chart no none at all i mean maybe like one of the other ones yeah one of
00:24:46.600
the you know do you know your big three though yeah what is it leo moon taurus rising
00:24:52.400
i sensed i sensed taurus you did i did yeah what gives you taurus i think it's like you're very
00:24:59.620
like grounded nature i feel like you're very grounded someone else said that recently
00:25:03.980
maybe i'm starting to relate more with taurus i didn't like ever really relate yeah from what i
00:25:10.320
understand my very loose understanding of it astrological people are don't be mean to me
00:25:14.520
uh but like you're rising is like what people perceive you to be um and your son's like who you
00:25:20.060
really are and then your emotions right so maybe that's why i got taurus right period i love that
00:25:26.100
men who hate me hate when i talk about astrology because they're like that shit's not fucking real
00:25:29.360
also neither is fantasy football and you do that every year don't you make no money off of it do you
00:25:34.180
that's what i thought okay back to this video about beyonce um this guy being a fucking buffoon
00:25:39.940
one of these comments says 100 overrated boring tunes tunes from the 1950s no wonder you don't like
00:25:49.920
beyonce this next one says agreed overrated and overproduced overproduced overproduced in what way
00:25:59.080
i was like i'm like literally look up you sound like they sound jealous they do they do it's like
00:26:05.640
one of those things where it's like popular to like things that are universally loved right because
00:26:10.460
like overproduced as in like it's awesome i'm like look up her singing halo acoustically and i'm all
00:26:18.280
and you tell me if that shit's overproduced bitch me getting fucking upset this last one says too much
00:26:26.000
vocal acrobatics i love that too it's like she's too good it's too much like up and down yeah too many
00:26:34.220
notes too skillful as a vocalist it's just confusing for me skillful vocalists that's
00:26:40.520
literally my hate comment from my burner because i can't sing at all just me being a fucking hater
00:26:45.900
sounds like they're jealous okay this next video says uh this is oh it was mtv's tiktok account they
00:26:56.320
posted a clip from megan the stallion's performance of bongos at the vmas and uh people in the comments
00:27:03.280
were upset these are all men yeah these are all men shocker yeah shocker men don't like when what
00:27:10.080
didn't they like about it oh man this first one says trash ass music people that like this have no
00:27:16.420
clue or taste of what good music is i just feel like what's the measure like if you ask that guy like
00:27:23.120
what's what's your measure of like great music he's gonna say some bullshit ass like counting crows or
00:27:29.020
some shit like that like that's some white people shit you know what i mean that's like a generic hate
00:27:32.980
comment like i see a lot of hate comments in my day yeah and like that one is like that's not a hitter
00:27:37.860
you know like that doesn't even like that doesn't even hurt i'm bored actually it's just so general
00:27:42.360
it's like you don't know music is like okay like that doesn't even mean anything you're like well i get
00:27:48.920
paid to do it and you don't so which one of us do you think like logistically probably knows more
00:27:53.180
about music like period if we were to measure accolades and who's been rewarded financially and
00:27:59.420
with fame i'd say that one of us knows music a little bit better than the other you know what i
00:28:05.820
mean like well and also like men like that they say some they're like the same fucking bitch ass
00:28:11.680
dude that like you wear a led zeppelin gym shirt to the gym and then they're like but name name five
00:28:16.760
songs huh that you don't even know where'd you get that just buy it from target yeah that's like
00:28:22.940
it's a fucking t-shirt yeah what if i said led zeppelin gave it to me themselves
00:28:26.880
yeah for being the number one fan in the world that'd be really that'd be a good story though
00:28:32.260
i just think it's like it's exhausting uh to watch men perceive music that is almost always
00:28:41.180
only associated with black women or women of color and be like this music is fucking garbage
00:28:46.260
well yeah but maybe there's another reason why you feel that way look at it's also not made
00:28:52.800
for you no shit like it is not made no shit but i bet you they looked up that music video though
00:28:59.080
huh oh watched it a little rewinded it a couple times watched it in slow motion played it back in
00:29:03.560
point five watched it a few times didn't you they said the same thing about wop when wop came out
00:29:10.020
and that was my number one song that year that was my spot that is not that was a smash yeah that was
00:29:15.500
my most played song of that the year that it came out i think it was like 2020 that was my most
00:29:19.380
played song of that year that was 365 days bitch that's how many times i listened to that fucking
00:29:24.080
song yeah it's fun pretty iconic i think fun music and like music that makes you feel hot music that
00:29:30.680
makes you like want to go out with your friends and have a good time who's to say that's bad i agree
00:29:35.560
according to who that's why i said what's the gauge like and then every artist they name is white so
00:29:40.100
and a man so i'm like we'll see yeah that's a different problem that's a different problem that's not
00:29:45.020
taste that's racism yeah look into it no it's really true a lot of guys not all guys a lot of
00:29:51.560
guys are like embarrassed to like yeah listen to women music no like general and also music but like
00:30:01.580
in music but yeah in general too like yeah they they don't have any women in their playlists
00:30:07.500
that's weird that's fucking weird yeah i don't know why you're a weirdo dude check your play
00:30:15.100
and make sure it's unpack it you know unpack that why is that why are you feeling that way
00:30:22.260
why do you have all these feelings that are related to like your visceral hatred towards women it might
00:30:27.580
be deeper than just music they always say something so random too they're like oh you've never oh my
00:30:33.380
god this is a perfect example i have another podcast with my sister and we were talking about
00:30:37.940
the movie barnyard do you remember that movie i have never seen barnyard i missed tinashe you've
00:30:43.520
never seen i missed that one it's basically a shitty little it's fucking animated movie okay and
00:30:50.100
it's about farm animals and they they can all talk and walk on their hind legs but they like act like
00:30:54.820
they can't when the farmer's around anyways me giving you the plot of oh my god anyways one of the
00:31:01.780
cow one of the cows he's like a he's party cow like he doesn't take his job seriously and
00:31:06.320
his dad's like in charge and his dad's like serious he's like you gotta grow up whatever
00:31:09.920
there's this scene in the movie where the dad cow is playing a banjo and it's a song that i thought
00:31:15.580
was johnny cash and i was talking on the podcast and i was like i don't know i think it was like a
00:31:20.120
johnny cash song bitch the amount of people that jumped down my fucking throat and they were like you
00:31:25.860
don't know that that song's by tom petty bitch look at me do i look like i listen to tom petty
00:31:31.340
no right like be serious for once in your life do i look like tom petty's demographic
00:31:35.980
i would think not no probably not target i literally i literally had a girl be like i
00:31:42.060
unfollowed you on everything because i couldn't believe you didn't know oh my god i unfollowed you
00:31:45.900
on everything tom petty in fact block me because fuck you and fuck tom petty how about that just
00:31:49.800
kidding tom petty i don't know if he's alive does anyone know if tom petty's alive
00:31:53.360
no you don't i'm so sorry rest in peace peace and love tom petty peace and love
00:32:04.440
when the sillies go too far peace and love tom petty but anyways i was like my point being
00:32:11.920
i didn't know who the fuck that song was by and they took it personally damn but it's always like
00:32:17.740
they referenced like one very specific like niche like and by niche i mean like it's a very
00:32:23.760
specific audience artists and it's always an older man and they're like that's real music no
00:32:29.520
literally according to who your grandpa probably probably but according to me not so much yeah
00:32:36.640
doesn't move doesn't move me you big tom petty fan no no personally personally it's not it's not
00:32:47.060
for me yeah and that's and that's another serious no i music is an art form uh and art is subjective
00:32:54.520
so it's like not everything is for everyone and not everything is curated for one specific person
00:33:00.360
but that brings us back to the beginning of our conversation yeah there is room for everyone
00:33:05.100
yeah that's what i mean audience for everyone that's what i'm saying yeah that's why i i'm i'm
00:33:10.620
always i'm in i'm a big fan of like liking what you like and not yeah let people let people like
00:33:16.300
what they like no shit that's like some people like bongo some people like tom petty and i don't
00:33:22.480
know if there's someone who's in between or likes both but if you are there's probably you know
00:33:29.660
this next comment says this is our generation of women guys get a load of this it's our generation of
00:33:45.180
women it's like two very successful women in rap music well that's just a slut shamey comment yeah
00:33:53.740
but i don't think either women i don't think either of those women are struggling to find love or
00:33:59.220
happiness oh so i don't doubt jokes on you buddy jokes anytime uh men say shit like that i always
00:34:06.360
write like do you have a girlfriend and then they're like we're not talking about me that's what i thought
00:34:10.960
that's what i thought i bet i know why in case you're curious damn in case you need advice at all
00:34:17.080
i bet i know why this this next one says so they only make hoe music with a question mark but what's
00:34:23.320
wrong with hoe music is that a genuine question that's funny i like hoe music you and me both
00:34:29.040
i really i really really like like a really really outrageous hoe song me too bitch me too i am such a big
00:34:40.000
fan yeah it's fun yeah i like to live in that you know fantasy it gets me into character that's what
00:34:47.440
i'm saying yeah that's like all you can before you're gonna go out like yeah hoe music for sure
00:34:52.520
that's what i mean that's like strictly what you play but that's why sometimes i think like
00:34:57.660
when you bring up like specific rappers like sometimes people try to compare rappers
00:35:02.220
like for example like someone like sexy red love her music yeah amazing so fucking awesome so fun
00:35:11.340
so so amazing and then they'll like be like she's fucking trash like it's nothing like j cole
00:35:16.980
of course it's not bitch those are two different kinds of rapping like of course it's not like she's
00:35:23.780
not trying to save the world she's trying to shake ass like the goals have been met on both sides
00:35:29.960
that doesn't make her worse than him it's just different different audience but people who
00:35:34.040
want to shake their ass need representation too that's what i'm saying when she said come suck a
00:35:39.480
bitch toes hilarious that is so funny that is and i bet you what i wanted to hear on the song i didn't
00:35:47.060
even know it's what i've been waiting to hear i just think it also back to like cardi b and and meg the
00:35:54.980
stallion like it's the same kind of thing where it's like they're they're kind of rapping is is very
00:36:00.920
specific and it's for a very specific audience and that audience is fucking huge because they are both
00:36:05.660
so fucking successful but i just think to to pigeonhole them as like oh they only make home music i'm like
00:36:12.060
see that's just you being a misogynist slut shaming yeah so what that's what i say and what of it
00:36:21.080
and and what also like you don't like hoes that's what i'm saying like everyone loves hoes i do i do i
00:36:31.680
do as a as a hoe myself i love i can't go against my own kind those are my girls that's my my team
00:36:39.620
and i think men who say shit like that too have no hoes so that's probably why see they're jealous
00:36:46.320
they're so jealous so jealous of us i feel like the attitude a lot of times too like and i've talked
00:36:53.860
about it too with other other like rappers and stuff on my podcast but i feel like a lot of times
00:36:58.960
too it's attached to this like very puritanical belief that women are supposed to like i mean if
00:37:06.340
you really gotta unpack then yeah that's what i mean but i mean like when women exert agency and
00:37:12.720
autonomy and they're like i feel good i feel sexy i want to talk about it then men all of a sudden
00:37:18.040
are like wait a second only i'm allowed to do that to you against your will totally you're not allowed
00:37:23.440
to do it it's the consent part that they don't like because women are consenting to being it's a power
00:37:28.880
dynamic yeah it's a power thing it's the same reason they hate sex workers for the same reasons
00:37:34.180
they're like well see i like doing it when it's against your will but not that you're doing it it's
00:37:37.440
kind of takes the fun out of it for me yikes and that's how they see someone like cardi b and meg
00:37:42.220
the stallion and they're like ew and they watch i'll go home and watch like so much porn like
00:37:49.660
they're just so such that's why i said i bet you watch the video a few times so hypocritical
00:37:55.580
watch the whole thing through just to be like yep just as i thought whores just as i thought
00:38:02.040
whore and it's like but not yours though huh oh whore for everyone except you uh-oh damn
00:38:09.660
i bet that hurts do you that hurts are you when you said you you've gotten a lot of hate comments
00:38:15.760
um over the years do you find that it's worse when you were like being like starting to exert
00:38:23.240
more autonomy when you're starting to put out more like sexy music like um i mean uh or is it just
00:38:29.120
kind of consistent all throughout it's pretty consistent it's pretty consistent there's ups
00:38:33.180
and downs yeah there's ups and downs um it's usually when you're like up yeah that it gets the worst
00:38:41.360
yeah people want to tear you down yeah of course they want to bring you down a peg and then anytime
00:38:45.960
i'm like of overtly sexy like i wore this outfit to the vmas like that outrage but like but like it
00:38:53.660
was funny because it was like it's like clockwork like it's so obvious yeah you know what i mean
00:38:58.740
it's so it's like too easy it's just too easy like people are just like oh my god my eyes like
00:39:05.820
people are just so dramatic and it's just it's kind of funny is it literally was it literally just
00:39:11.340
they thought it was too much yeah and then yeah okay yeah i forgot we were in old times yeah you
00:39:19.480
know where you had to wear a bonnet and three skirts if you dress like a pilgrim to the vmas do
00:39:24.360
you think they'd care they'd eat you up for a different they'd probably eat me up too
00:39:27.560
like show a little skin not that much skin i don't know what i wonder what the reaction would
00:39:34.160
be if i dress like you know a pilgrim just like like a nun yeah they think i was like making fun
00:39:39.860
they think it's a costume of some kind yeah you should wear that like you but you just like one
00:39:45.580
of the ones like the men who have like the big buckles on their hats just like that like colonial
00:39:50.440
times you know i mean like george washington you know what i mean like you just dress like that
00:39:55.640
and then they'd be like see now that's a respectable woman i'm having a hard time featuring this hat
00:40:01.420
like you know that big ass hat those big like it's like like like a quaker oats yes yes exactly
00:40:07.340
quaker core oatmeal core you wear that and you're like well everyone said i was too revealing in the
00:40:11.980
last time and i maybe next year yeah maybe next year i'll just put up on them as a woman in the
00:40:17.160
1800s i do want to be married um at 15 so that's why i made sure to come uh modest and respectable
00:40:23.060
right like a good wife i can't not show my wrists or ankles
00:40:27.520
men who never see breasts in real life get really mad when they see them in the wild oh my gosh
00:40:40.200
so mad so mad so mad it's just i don't know what it it's really just funny to me it's really
00:40:46.220
interesting yeah i don't know why it makes people angry yeah me either i i guess i've just never been
00:40:53.760
that unemployed i don't yeah i guess i can't relate to that i've never been that that down bad
00:40:58.160
personally i've just in general people caring that much about what other people do period is like
00:41:03.580
that's what i mean like imagine just going on some stranger's page someone you don't know you've
00:41:09.340
never met and just like commenting hate because you don't like what like they look like or
00:41:16.100
like that's just so that's such loser like you know truly literally it is it's very weird i i had
00:41:22.260
someone once write hate on one of my it was so random it was on fucking threads who's hating on
00:41:26.780
there well like of course i would get that on threads it's like a brand new app but then some
00:41:32.200
people started like jumping them in the comments because like they're like friends fans fans of mine
00:41:37.120
or whatever and then that person was literally like i don't even care like i was just i was just
00:41:41.540
having fun that's fun that's what i'm saying that's very that's very unemployed embarrassing
00:41:47.640
yeah it's unemployed like girl like very weird i'm so like when i first started growing um if i had a
00:41:54.860
friend i knew they were leaving hate comments on people's posts i'd be like you know so no seriously
00:42:00.600
you're a fucking weirdo weird you're a weirdo for real you're a weirdo i told someone recently i was
00:42:06.620
like um talking about because obviously like i terrorize awful men for a living so like they're
00:42:12.640
always at my doorstep um calling for my head on a spike but they sometimes i'll get hate from men
00:42:18.640
it's very very rare but they'll have a girlfriend right so i i one time i went on her page and she
00:42:24.160
followed me and then i went on his page that's why he's mad yeah i said did you know that your
00:42:28.680
girlfriend follows me she doesn't even follow you that's crazy because i went and looked and then he
00:42:33.540
was like i'm not gonna lie you kind of got me and he deleted his comments which is funny
00:42:37.780
but sometimes now if i see hate i just screenshot it and then i send it to the girlfriend like i'll
00:42:43.280
go on her page i'll dm her and i know that bitch goes in there because it has verified so it just
00:42:47.700
goes right to the top and i tell them just you know i told your girlfriend that you like to talk
00:42:51.700
shit on women for fun in your free time just out of curiosity it's worked many times i've some women
00:42:57.280
haven't responded to me some women have and they've been like oh my god i'm so embarrassed and then
00:43:00.660
they've like broken up with them hilarious hilarious if you want to be funny i can be
00:43:04.480
really fucking funny listen listen don't be leaving hate comments that's embarrassing well
00:43:10.700
and i and i tell them too i'm like i don't know about you but if i if i found out my boyfriend was
00:43:15.780
doing shit like this i would so embarrassing that's humiliating humiliating you're like so
00:43:21.060
bad in public in public too like where everyone could see like that's so gross and weird
00:43:26.420
also in private also in private on both on all of it honestly but i'll always message your
00:43:32.860
girlfriend so if you by chance have one make sure i can't find her because i will and i'll ruin a
00:43:38.440
relationship just like i have i think it's also it's crazy to me when people want to comment on
00:43:44.820
carpet looks especially but but like that's kind of the point to be that is the point let me stand up
00:43:49.660
people no no when i say when i say like criticize i mean like like they have something specific to
00:43:56.380
say about your body or it's too revealing or it's too modest or that's what i mean not like fashion
00:44:01.680
wise i mean like judgmental wise in a way that's like not helpful or constructive it's just like
00:44:06.940
you look fucking ugly or your tits are up too high it's like okay well sure yeah when you walk a
00:44:12.420
carpet let me know what you wear yeah let me know thank you so much i appreciate it uh and i think
00:44:19.080
too sometimes when you post your looks like if you feel good in it that's all that fucking matters
00:44:23.400
yeah like i mean i chose to wear it so clearly big fan yeah and sometimes you look so good you don't
00:44:32.120
want to wear anything and i'm cool with that too yeah it was it was fun it was fun it was literally
00:44:38.220
fun what was the what's the craziest thing what's the craziest thing you've ever seen about yourself
00:44:42.520
online oh gosh i don't even know whether it has to do with music or not something random
00:44:48.160
i don't even some i've seen such crazy things that i can't even like keep it on some type of like
00:44:53.820
spectrum in my head yeah you probably have to erase it all the time crazy yeah i've seen like
00:44:58.040
creepy things weird things yeah i don't know it's getting dark one time someone said that i they
00:45:04.400
thought i was uh like an uh a international spy like i was implanted from a foreign government um to
00:45:11.840
infiltrate tiktok and make uh everybody woke that's a good one yeah i like that i have some
00:45:19.440
illuminati stuff people have said that i like i do like i do like those like those are kind of funny
00:45:24.920
to me honestly the only people in the illuminati those are also funny to me so if that's there was
00:45:29.560
someone there was someone recently actually who was leaving comments every single day on like every
00:45:35.100
post i would post and like something illuminati related like really yeah like he's like i know you're
00:45:40.180
they were definitely like had like alerts on for my photos that they could be no like no just saying
00:45:45.560
that i was an illuminati yeah they're like i know that i know that you're yeah they were like this
00:45:49.800
is they did find something she's wearing red okay well you know it's the blood like i don't know
00:45:59.660
it's weird it's so funny i didn't know that they're like oh period it's just funny because it's just so
00:46:05.640
like silly i know i've seen one time when i was in high school one of my friends showed me like
00:46:10.960
you know like beyonce and jay-z are like apparently ahead of the illuminati um she showed me one about
00:46:17.100
beyonce and she was like showing me one of those like all the signs that they're in the illuminati
00:46:22.820
it's like one of those youtube but i had an illuminati phase too yeah but i was like 12 that's
00:46:28.820
what i mean i was like i think i was like 13 14 yeah i was like watching the videos like oh my gosh
00:46:34.700
the signs are there like it makes sense it all connects the signs are there and then like over
00:46:42.040
the years i was like well now that you're in the industry i don't know if this is really
00:46:48.420
for realsies or not realsies well when i watched it i was like i mean that's cool but i'm still gonna
00:46:53.680
listen to the music so yeah that will be damned you know what i mean damn i guess he's in good
00:46:58.940
company then because he's got great taste if he likes fiance he's got great taste i'm down i'm into
00:47:04.740
it exactly i think the also you being associated with the illuminati is cool because everyone who's
00:47:10.440
in there is awesome yeah it's a good it's like a good co-sign i think so if you're gonna be co-signed
00:47:17.100
by like any you know group only big people only huge successful amazing other artists like yourself
00:47:24.520
that's kind of why i think it's funny because i'm like you guys think that's such an honor for you to
00:47:29.080
think that like i'm into illuminati wow yeah mine was just fucking i'm making people woke that's so
00:47:34.800
boring no that no international spy though international spy yeah that's i'm like on some
00:47:39.960
like benedict arnold shit you know that's cool crossed enemy lines now i'm here and they're like
00:47:44.980
which country was trying to make china's trying to make us yeah clearly i look like i'm from china
00:47:50.000
i look very much so like i'm from china so yeah he said that about me and he was like
00:47:55.780
it was like uh this one guy well actually there's multiple people doing it and i was he's like why
00:48:01.540
did you go to china in 2016 and i was like i've never left the country other than to mexico i've been
00:48:07.280
to china you have is it fun yeah it's cool it's cool the shows were crazy maybe he's talking about you
00:48:12.860
then i'll just point him in your direction so it's actually t-nosh that's so funny you asked
00:48:17.520
i was like they're like why are you in china i was like i've never i didn't even have a passport in
00:48:22.600
the year that he used i was like i didn't even have a passport i was 18 years old that's crazy
00:48:27.140
but you know i like that though that's a good room you're illuminati i'm an international spy it
00:48:33.000
all works out that's the only way that we could ever succeed obviously that's like that's my true t
00:48:40.180
on the illuminati i'm like why is this always associated there's men in there too but a lot
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of times it's women and it's always like well how else do you explain her success well probably a
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multitude of reasons that are much more realistic and logical like talent but i don't know i don't know
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if those youtube videos are convincing yeah the graphics and everything they have the music and
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yeah like a red circle in the very back yeah they show you like the dollar bill and stuff you know
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it gets deep i know they have all these signs i'm just gonna say i guess i need to wake up a
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little bit okay so to wrap up well first off what's your favorite song off the new album
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today it is uh-huh oh i love why um i i don't know it just hits it's simple and it just hits it just
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feels like my mood yeah and sometimes you just want something that just like hits you know yeah i like
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that one i absolutely know totally it can relate to that uh what would you say is the best song to
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play if you're getting ready to go out um night out on the town needs needs period you heard that
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host that's the host fellow host yes that's link up stream it okay last question what is your best
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piece of advice for people who want to break into the music industry or people who maybe aren't seeing
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as much success as they you know wish they could like they're still trying to create and everything
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but with a new landscape things have shifted a lot so what would you say is your best piece of advice
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my best piece of advice is to basically get real diy and you know there's a lot of whether it's apps or
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things at your fingertips that allow you to be able to make art or make content or do whatever you can
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and i think don't wait for someone to do it for you don't wait for like the opportunity to fall out
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of the sky you can teach yourself how to produce you can make your own videos i started making my
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own music videos editing them myself on final cut like producing my own music cool i love yeah mixing my
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own music like it's really important to be able to have those skills that you're not handicapped and i
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think you know you can find tutorials and ways to learn how to use the apps and then just get your
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hands in them and cool miss producer i love that just like don't just go for it that's so awesome
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yeah that's so fucking cool and you're so right it's like the landscape has shifted in many ways
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but also the ability to like create like even without having to be signed or anything like that
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like yeah like your access you can now record music without having to be in a major studio and make it
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sound really good with the technology that's available you can produce there's free apps online you know
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there's like so many cool ways that you can get yourself out there so don't let any of the like
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old school ways of thinking yeah hold you back that's cool that's tea and like sometimes you have
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to create the opportunity and then then you get the opportunity absolutely i think that's sick that's
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so awesome thank you so much thank you for coming on the show yeah you're amazing happy halloween
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happy halloween have fun in your on your tour thanks and before we go uh where can everybody
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find you um you can find me on all my socials just search my name tinashe you should find me
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tinashe now on instagram beautiful and tinashe has a new album that just came out yeah bb angel check
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it out yes you can stream it on all streaming platforms might i recommend spotify which is our
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favorite platform but thank you all so much for joining us thank you to the amazing tinashe for being on
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