The Comment Section with Drew Afualo

00:00:00.000 I remember so specifically Andy Cohen being like asking he had questions for him on the thing and

00:00:04.020 then at the end he just goes Shaq how big is your dick he just was like and Shaquille takes his

00:00:08.720 shoe off and just puts it because he's like a size you know whatever 106 and he just puts his

00:00:13.800 shoe and it's this long and he just puts it on his leg and everybody screams

00:00:17.660 hey everyone and welcome back to another episode of the comment section show starring me

00:00:27.820 everybody knows me again nobody ever cares about me anymore but you should care about me today

00:00:31.580 because clearly I'm not in my regular studio and that's because we're in New York baby we're taking

00:00:38.400 the show on the road and we're gonna pick up the most famous people ever because that's just what

00:00:42.920 we do on this show and today is no exception today we have the amazing the wonderful the iconic the

00:00:48.540 legendary Betty who wow most famous people ever that's really crazy to me okay oh that's what

00:00:58.680 I'm like that makes more sense okay great okay I'm in I'm in everyone's wildly more famous than I

00:01:04.580 on my show but I'm always like I love to pick people that I love that's right I'm happy to be

00:01:10.300 loved by you thank you the feeling is so mutual I got so excited when I saw on TikTok I was like

00:01:15.880 looking at your profile and I saw the little you know the arrows yeah I was like true follows me

00:01:21.160 and that's how we made it here I feel like absolutely we go so far back about god a month

00:01:27.860 and a half back it's 10 years at least man so happy to be here welcome to New York you and I

00:01:33.780 are both we're LA goalies yeah yes and we both we're both living our dreams and you're even more

00:01:39.220 abroad because you are not from America no I was born in Australia yes so exactly half and half

00:01:45.680 although I have a citizenship so I kind of I got I'm like lucky because I don't have to deal with

00:01:49.820 all of the sort of visa nightmare oh that's good my mom's American so oh period yeah love that for

00:01:55.540 you bi-coastal bi-country girlie bisexual bi-country girlie that's me I'm honored to have you I've been

00:02:04.400 a fan of you for a very very long time that's so nice I can't believe it your song heartbreak dream

00:02:08.280 changed my life okay that is actually OG yeah I was like yeah that's like for real yeah wow yeah I love

00:02:15.620 that song I loved that whole album and my sister is gay and she was like I loved this album too and

00:02:20.600 I was like being the gays I can't believe I'm gay yeah she's like hello so funny um wow I

00:02:28.620 HPD heartbreak dream is a is a is a TBT that's an old one so I'm really I appreciate I appreciate that

00:02:34.280 it's so good and then my last record is called big which is really for the tall girlies actually

00:02:38.120 so like aka me I know you walked in you were like wait you're tall I was like no you're so tall

00:02:43.420 well you're I knew you were tall yeah but you're significantly taller than me I'm tall I'm tall

00:02:48.280 for a person not tall for a woman exactly you know what I mean I'm six two that's tall that's that

00:02:53.140 period period and that's like for realsies for although if any um acting costing people are

00:02:59.500 watching this I'm six foot could be 5'11 yeah if you really think about it you really think about

00:03:06.620 it you could be that's what I'm saying that's like Gwendolyn Christine yeah she's tall that's my that's

00:03:11.820 my that's my big girl you know Hannah Waddingham who from uh Ted Lasso yes yes yes my our tall

00:03:17.400 queens I didn't know she was that tall she looks tall but I didn't know she was that tall she's

00:03:21.040 pretty tall yeah period I know it's sick for us we're really taking over I'm chapped about it I

00:03:27.360 think so we've been in the shadows for far too long do people guess that you're tall no I said I mean

00:03:34.120 of course I bet you get the same thing number one thing people say they're like wait wait you're so

00:03:38.020 much taller than I expected really tall I used to use the term big for me um which feels like a

00:03:43.800 choice um a wrong one at that but that's see this I'm reclaiming the word big do you know what I mean

00:03:48.500 that's that's my whole thing now period because I'm like my last record is called big title track

00:03:53.500 from the record big is all about me being a huge bitch and being like I call myself a big bitch all

00:03:59.600 the time yeah because I am in fact um but only I'm allowed to call myself that a bitch like hey don't

00:04:05.080 talk about my mom that way only I am allowed to talk about my mom that way it's like that yes I

00:04:09.060 relate you're not allowed to talk shit I am yeah about me they always say that to me they're like

00:04:15.180 you're so much taller than I thought you were gonna be which I feel like I look tall I don't think I

00:04:20.880 photograph short literally at all see I have the thing especially because in the show that I'm doing

00:04:25.700 currently I wear heels and I have a wig that has like a good three four inches on the top of it it's

00:04:29.760 like a big beehive yeah so I don't it's like um I hear older people saying like I don't feel 60

00:04:35.340 you know I like feel 25 and then I look at myself in the mirror and I'm like whoa I've aged

00:04:39.520 that's how I feel about my height is I don't feel like I'm 6'6 in this show and then I saw the photos

00:04:44.960 from our first curtain call and I was like wait wait just absolutely dwarfing everybody yeah the guy

00:04:51.560 who plays my husband is tall speaking of big he's a tall guy and I'm I literally am dwarfing him on

00:04:57.680 stage it's like in I was like oh oh I didn't realize yeah I talked about that once when I filmed

00:05:04.040 something it was like a commercial kind of thing and they were like styling me we had less baby we

00:05:09.100 had a bunch of meetings and they were talking about styling and I was like uh just so you guys know

00:05:14.040 because I was with a man and I knew his height like relatively I feel like I can smell height like

00:05:20.920 especially on men I can tell if they're tall yeah that's not a joke um so I looked at him and I'm like

00:05:25.840 he looks a little bit shorter than me so I told them just you guys know I'm tall like uh so if

00:05:30.560 you're planning on putting me in a heel and you don't like the optics of that giving you a heads

00:05:35.000 up yeah I'm just letting you know I'd put me in a flat shoe and they were like oh yeah yeah yeah and

00:05:38.960 they still put me in a heel it was like a pretty high one so I was like okay and we stood next to

00:05:42.460 each other I had like four inches on him and they were like oh you meant tall see when I told you that

00:05:47.780 I was tall and I expressed this exact thing it's so interesting that you didn't believe me yeah I

00:05:54.380 think they assumed that when which is not really their fault but like when women say tall they're

00:05:59.440 like talking like five seven yeah so I'm like no babe no that's not what we mean that's not what

00:06:05.880 we mean at all that's really an average height to me and I think anything below five six is like

00:06:10.320 short I think tall for a woman is like five ten minimum it's like what I think yeah I would say

00:06:15.960 like for me tall is like six or over yeah so that includes men six or over and anyone in between

00:06:23.620 six or over but as like a tall lady are you I have like one of my biggest insecurities especially being

00:06:31.320 in the entertainment industry in general is my clothing trauma is like off the charts yeah it's

00:06:35.820 pretty bad crazy crazy crazy like the number of shoots I've showed up to where I'm like interesting

00:06:40.460 I gave you my sizes yeah and you brought samples yeah I did a shoot that I will will the publication

00:06:48.380 will remain nameless but I did a shoot where I showed up and they bought brought all of these

00:06:52.360 designer clothes I'm like how great would it be if literally any of these fit me I was like sobbing

00:06:56.420 at the shoot they turned it into a beauty editorial because they didn't have any clothes that fit me

00:07:00.020 and they wrapped a scarf like an Hermes scarf around me as a top because they did not have a single

00:07:05.680 piece of clothing how are you supposed to feel I'm just like what's the point like why'd you ask me

00:07:10.000 for sizes and why'd you bring me here if you wanted someone who's going to fit into all these no shit

00:07:14.560 it's like you're asked to show up and then you immediately are told that you're wrong for showing

00:07:19.800 up yeah they're like oh well it's like so hard to like shop for you and it's like is it oh my god

00:07:26.440 yeah it feels like you had a job to do and you didn't do it yeah like I have learned uh to bring my

00:07:33.780 own shit to everything even if they say don't worry I'm going to bring clothes for you I still

00:07:37.880 bring my own shit every single time I bring my own jeans especially I bring my own like shoes yeah

00:07:42.920 pants are pants are the worst see we have very different because I am living in a very I dress

00:07:47.500 as not that my nails are telling you this right now these are for the show I don't know if you're

00:07:52.220 getting this from me that it doesn't really match my everyday vibe but I transit transitioned into

00:07:57.860 like exclusively men's clothing I feel as though women's clothing isn't doesn't cater to me yeah

00:08:04.920 I like just do not I feel like a sausage being stuffed into the casing and that's fair that's

00:08:10.700 very valid yeah oh I just like I spent my entire life trying to fit into clothes that weren't meant

00:08:15.540 for me and then I was like cool I guess I'll just wear these pants that are made for someone who has hips

00:08:19.340 my size which is like men I guess sick for me you know what's crazy too is like clothing is well

00:08:33.100 gender is made up first of all uh but clothing is genderless at least it should be like I have a

00:08:38.620 really interesting take on this yeah only because I think like gender is fake if you will but clothing

00:08:46.300 is what makes people see gender true like very true I I think I have a very soft lady face yeah

00:08:52.500 but I I'm tall first of all height is what makes people see gender true even before I was like

00:08:57.240 dressing very masculine yeah I would pretty pretty girl clothes because I was trying to be like no I'm

00:09:02.460 so little and tiny don't look at me I'm such a sweet little baby yeah and people still in the airport

00:09:08.440 like sir because I'm tall and I'm like that's so interesting I mean it's great I did really I respond

00:09:14.720 very comfortably to sir now do you know what I mean here sure yes yes ma'am I think it's so funny

00:09:20.700 how like we perceive each other yeah and how it's like my height has made me male yeah just because

00:09:28.680 you know it's yeah absolutely and now I'm just going I guess I'm going with it yeah I feel like

00:09:33.400 I used to well I mean I feel like all tall girls especially like uh go through this at some point

00:09:39.060 but like I used to really fucking hate being tall when I was really young of course um especially

00:09:44.060 like you know when you're you're co-mingling with men and then you go through puberty and you're

00:09:49.320 because I was short for some time like when I say short I mean like I was like average when was yeah

00:09:56.120 when was your like growth spot that was like seventh going into eighth grade so I was five four when I

00:10:02.760 was 10 which is very tall don't get me wrong that's very fucking tall it's a little ominous to be

00:10:08.760 honest but I didn't really notice at the time it wasn't until like like I said like puberty rolls

00:10:14.900 in and then you start to be perceived and also boys take longer yeah so like when you're hitting

00:10:20.280 five eight the boys are still five foot nothing yeah and your body is being starting to be perceived

00:10:25.580 by men in a way that is sexual and it's like desirable and we're juicy too which is different

00:10:31.700 developing yeah yeah and so I was kind of like I think when I was five four until seventh grade

00:10:37.780 then the summer going into eighth grade I grew four inches that's not a fucking joke I went from

00:10:43.080 five four to five eight I came back to school they're like who the fuck is this dad and it's

00:10:48.980 really I'm like a foot taller than everybody I know um and even then I didn't really care like I

00:10:56.880 noticed but I didn't like really take it to heart yet till I went to high school when I was younger I

00:11:02.380 did hate being bigger than other kids because my mom like when I played sports my mom always had to

00:11:07.380 bring like my birth certificate because I'm so much bigger than everyone I also got accused of

00:11:12.140 being like in the 10th grade when I was in fifth grade they were like prove it prove that she's 11

00:11:17.080 I don't believe you I don't believe you for one second because I've always been a large child so

00:11:22.100 like as I got older my mom had to start carrying it everywhere she's like she's literally nine I'm

00:11:27.700 screaming I know she's taller than me or the same height as me but she's literally I hit six foot when

00:11:32.040 I was 12 so I feel you damn yeah big girl early early big girl early yeah all the pictures are so

00:11:38.220 silly you know what I mean it's just like but I also like I don't know I've my mom specifically both

00:11:43.940 my parents but my mom was very like I never had the until other kids yeah same same as a child I was

00:11:52.200 very loved and I'm very grateful and very lucky and so I really was just like this I never understood

00:11:58.360 that I was different same in a meaningful way until you're like faced with the outside world I was

00:12:03.500 kids are fucking mean I was um in San Francisco with my parents when I was a kid I just got my ears

00:12:08.340 pierced I was so jacked I was probably 12 and they had gone to to the restaurant we were in the hotel

00:12:14.720 bar and they were like we were all like kind of waiting at the box we were waiting for a table and

00:12:19.020 so my parents were like we're gonna go check on the table and I was standing at the bar waiting for

00:12:22.420 them to come back yeah at 12 years old and the waiter the bartender comes over to me and he's like

00:12:27.240 do you have an id and I went I'm 12 and he was like you can't you have you can't sit here you

00:12:33.140 gotta go I was like awesome I caught it when I was 12 years old that's fucking you know what I mean

00:12:37.160 it's wild so I feel you that is crazy you know when I look at pictures it does look comical because

00:12:42.320 I'm like so much larger than every other kid but I never really noticed when I was a kid and then

00:12:47.500 when I went to high school I grew more like I was like 5'8 and then I tore my ACL in high school and

00:12:54.480 when I got my what's your what's your sports of choice you're a sporty soccer soccer football

00:12:59.960 for your people yes thank you yeah thank you don't know if you know that yeah that's not what they

00:13:05.020 call it where you're from that's what I played uh growing up all throughout school that's a running

00:13:11.180 sport yeah I was a lot of running I was never a runner yeah I did a lot of running which is

00:13:17.400 strange don't know why I really hate running are you so sick of being asked if you played

00:13:22.020 basketball yeah because I didn't it's the first one me either actually basketball was one of the

00:13:26.480 few sports I wasn't very good at same which feels incorrect yeah volleyball also people are like oh

00:13:32.560 you must have played volleyball and I was like I did play volleyball not a day in my life and it's

00:13:36.700 like the one that I'm like always I was a softball girly very if you didn't know I was queer when I was

00:13:41.040 11 I was like well that fits a different stereotype exactly it makes sense now I literally wanted to go I

00:13:46.520 wanted as a kid to go to college on a softball scholarship I was like wow like I'm in a league

00:13:51.720 of their own but the amazon series that's like the really gay one yeah the new one the true one yeah

00:13:58.220 yeah when I played soccer I same thing I was much bigger than everyone but I remember I got like uh

00:14:04.480 when I tore my ACL I had to get surgery I had to get an MRI and when they did x-rays on my legs uh the

00:14:10.060 guy was telling me your growth plates are like closed I'm like oh word he's like yeah you're not gonna grow

00:14:15.260 anymore I'm like fucking promise because I hated being tall pinky swear yeah I was like swear to me

00:14:20.120 on your life I'm not gonna grow another inch and then he's like no yeah you're done uh did he lie

00:14:25.440 yeah I well yeah I was five eight now I'm six feet tall I kept growing I grew an inch every year

00:14:31.140 I grew into college it was like once I turned 21 I stopped growing and I was like what the fuck yeah

00:14:36.800 like I was so pissed off but I don't understand it either because genetics are so weird because my dad is

00:14:41.500 six six and my mom is five three okay so my sister's five four she's my older sister I'm six

00:14:48.320 feet I'm the middle child my brother's six one right now and he's 19 so like whoa it's just so

00:14:54.720 random like it's just a real like randomizer like a jackpot machine it was just like whoever gets tall

00:15:00.180 your parents are a great example of this because short women love tall men yeah I used to get

00:15:11.720 really fucking mad at my small the smallest girlfriends I had were like I only date guys

00:15:16.980 if they're six foot or tall I would be like get your own you know what I mean there are so few you

00:15:23.080 could pick anybody listen you could be with a man who's five eight and he would tower over you

00:15:27.920 that is fucked and it always happens that way it does yeah I do you you went you were you found a

00:15:34.660 tossy I married I married a small one yeah sorry I shouldn't just call you the small one I married a

00:15:40.380 short king because there's something for me I like it jacks me up real baby girl energies it jacks me up

00:15:47.280 because I think there's also something about like a short man who doesn't care shorter I'm not gonna call

00:15:52.440 you short you're not like tight listen sorry he was like he was like please try and keep my name

00:15:58.640 out of your mouth today I'm already shorter than you shorter than me and there's something to me

00:16:03.540 that's very like attractive about a shorter man who goes like I don't care it's like so secure

00:16:09.440 yeah honestly that I'm instantly down I people would be shocked like lots of short men hit on me

00:16:14.880 yeah it's like hell yeah love that love this for us yeah put you on the bar yeah I think so put you

00:16:20.300 in my pocket daddy yeah it makes me so I think it's like such a testament to the kind of person

00:16:26.740 you are if you're like I don't it doesn't make me feel weird at all that you're taller than me

00:16:29.940 you're beautiful like I should be into you it's like yeah yes you should so right and you're so

00:16:34.780 real for that correct yes you say and you're so real for that correct it's true thank you sir

00:16:38.340 you know yeah my boyfriend's six four so like but I'm also someone so like it's very normal for us

00:16:45.100 to be tall and like I'm not shaken by tall people or big people like that doesn't freak me out not

00:16:51.100 freak me out but like you know some people are like wow oh my god I've never seen someone so tall in my

00:16:56.720 life yeah like like tall people in general don't like phase me at all because I've been around

00:17:03.980 tall people my whole life my dad is my dad's 6'6 my dad's a big dude so like tall to me is like 6'4 up

00:17:11.520 yeah that's tall to me but like tall to most people is just 5'10 so you hit your growth spurt 12 you said

00:17:17.120 so young yeah two more inches yeah is that slow and steady I think so I mean at that point what does it

00:17:21.700 fucking matter yeah it's like how do you yeah I didn't even notice at that point I just I felt I

00:17:27.160 was so tall so young that I was just tall always so like the extra because there was one girl

00:17:33.080 Victoria Stanton shout out babes um taught was my friend in middle school like from grade 7 to grade

00:17:40.860 10 before I moved to America and she was the other only like she was 6'3 and I was 6'2 and it's very

00:17:48.080 rare I don't I don't mean a ton of women who are taller I'm usually like I love to be the tall

00:17:53.060 woman who makes tall women feel small yeah when I mean you're like oh wait you're taller than me

00:17:58.240 yeah it's my co-star in the show I'm in right now Saleha is probably 5'11 I want to say and she was

00:18:03.840 like wait I was like yeah I'm here to make you feel like a tiny little sexy baby you're just like me

00:18:09.700 yeah you know 5'10 girl they're like oh my god you're taller than me I'm like period bitch I'm here

00:18:14.520 for you you know what I mean I'll hold it down together I remember having like solidarity with

00:18:19.680 her and feeling really like I wasn't literally the only one yeah um and we were on the same

00:18:24.700 in Australia we have a game called netball which is kind of like basketball but it's you anyway there

00:18:30.580 are specific rules and me and I was on defense and what was on like on she was the shooter and we

00:18:36.180 kind of we just we decimated and that was the sport that everyone was like show me your birth

00:18:40.360 certificate I don't believe two big bitches are like you know like they try to just smack it out

00:18:47.200 of the air so tall six five sick five there was one girl that I went to high school with and we

00:18:54.180 played soccer together but we also played volleyball together I like convinced her to

00:18:57.060 join volleyball because she was six three I want to say and her whole family was tall like both her

00:19:03.720 parent her mom was probably like six feet her dad was like six five she had two older brothers both

00:19:08.260 of them over six three like just real tall lanky uh and I told her I was like yeah like I'm tall

00:19:14.320 too love that for us so I used to we used to hype her up a lot yeah because she was real shy I was

00:19:20.360 like it's sick that works against you I think when you're tall and you're a woman uh you're and you're

00:19:24.880 shy too I was never shy so that's why yeah we both really embraced the like cool this is who I am

00:19:29.480 and now I'm like you have to grow into your you know personality has to grow into the the body you

00:19:34.640 were given absolutely and I think too when I was in high school I remember one kid told me like

00:19:40.400 he wanted to take me to prom but he didn't end up doing it because he didn't like how much taller I

00:19:44.620 was than him I had another guy tell me he thought it would be gay if I wore heels and I was taller than

00:19:49.880 him I'm like that's not how that works but I have questions yeah it's so funny yeah but it's like it's

00:19:57.120 like cool you're ugly is showing it's like oh you're you're so insecure yeah and I think it's

00:20:02.420 just like oh cool next thank you so much yeah that's why I'm like yeah I don't give a fuck like

00:20:07.980 I don't care about shorter men but that's the gag about what I do now yeah because like when I joke

00:20:13.860 about short dudes like they get really fucking mad oh man yeah I kicked that rat's nest and they come

00:20:20.580 scrambling out they just scatter like little roaches of course and because you're so tall too it's like

00:20:25.380 well and when I say that like they for real think I'm kidding like they're like okay I googled it

00:20:31.440 and it said you're 5'4 I'm like well we all know the internet never lies I love that yeah I was like

00:20:35.360 did you read what else it said on there said I was 115 pounds that's also a lie I'm screaming I'm

00:20:38.420 screaming that's also a lie babe there's a lift in the show in Hadestama where the guys has to pick

00:20:42.380 like he's supposed to pick up Persephone and I we did it like twice and he's very strong and he can do it

00:20:47.740 but if he's ever out of the show nobody else will be able to pick up this like big girl I hope that's

00:20:52.560 like a tall girl thing I think it is like a fear of being picked up yes I hate it I'm like no no I've

00:20:57.900 hated it for so long yeah I'm just like no it's fine he's fine he's fine like the way I'll freak

00:21:02.120 out like if someone tries to I've gone like I've gone the other way a little bit where I'm like

00:21:06.880 I need to now like heal the wound of feeling like I'm a tiny little sexy baby so I'm like pick me I

00:21:12.300 my my husband always says that I'm like a great dane who thinks I'm a chihuahua I'm like I'm so small

00:21:17.460 hold me and he's like his tiny you know his tiny body being like I'm trying to hold you and I'm like

00:21:23.480 I need this I like you're this part of my healing process yeah I need this you're either with me or

00:21:28.200 you're against me I think like even when I say when I joke about height on the show too it's like

00:21:33.800 the same shit where they're like you can lose weight but I can't change my height I'm gonna have you

00:21:37.920 try it I saw a dude get kneecap surgery have you tried is this the guy who's like 6'4 and he wanted

00:21:43.540 to be 6'7 no no it was a guy who was like 5'4 and I think they made him 5'8 listen but it looked so

00:21:51.340 painful it apparently is like and it's like a long arduous healing journey it's like and then I think

00:21:58.600 to myself like you being short or shorter for a man or whatever because beauty standards were created

00:22:04.600 and imposed on everyone we don't have to adhere to them it's just something that we've been

00:22:08.180 indoctrinated into which that's too smart and intellectual so take that off the table uh if

00:22:14.720 you're just not a fucking awful human no one will notice how tall you are I was just thinking as you

00:22:19.680 were talking I was like it is so easy to be cool yeah and if you're cool I'm probably gonna be super

00:22:27.060 into you yeah I just like no one will give a fuck make a joke maybe if you make me laugh and we'll have

00:22:31.780 a cool fun time and you're not ugly on the inside period I am most likely going to have a great time

00:22:37.160 with you that's why I'm like I like I always bring up our friend like me and my boyfriend have a friend

00:22:42.500 and I we've known him for a while now I never noticed how short he was until maybe like the

00:22:47.900 third year I knew him screaming when he was standing next to me I realized I was like damn you're like

00:22:51.620 five six like that's crazy I never noticed I've known him for years I've been out with him dozens

00:22:55.940 of times been in my house everything he he's hung out with us rode my car all kinds of shit and I

00:23:00.880 never noticed because he doesn't give a fuck because it doesn't bother him that he's shorter than the

00:23:05.840 average man whatever that may be thousand percent I don't even fucking know like what men consider to

00:23:10.140 be tall like I don't even know and I'm like you are the one who cares about being short yeah so you

00:23:14.940 project that onto other people and if you're an asshole to me I'm gonna joke about you being I

00:23:20.160 level with my nipples I'm gonna I'm gonna bring that onto the table if you're a dick to me I'm gonna

00:23:24.880 bring it up yeah but if you don't bring it up I won't ready breastfeed yeah that's what I'm saying

00:23:29.680 it's it's standing up listen it's so it goes both ways too because it's like

00:23:33.920 if I'm not insecure about being tall yeah then like people notice it of course when I walk up

00:23:40.080 because I think it's unusual to see a tall tall woman yeah I think people find it more like whoa

00:23:45.800 than they do seeing a short man exactly yeah yeah and that's probably its own issue and thing yeah but

00:23:51.240 these every time I catch these nails in my peripheral I'm like you're like literally who is

00:23:55.600 this it's so this is day two so I'm they're really fresh it's like actually rocking my world

00:24:01.640 um no but I I do think that there's it's like it's so easy if you're comfortable with who you

00:24:08.360 are like those things that people that people find kind of abrasive or sort of if it's like it's not

00:24:15.200 about me clearly you have a whole you have something going on yeah I'm very comfortable being myself and

00:24:21.920 who I am clearly you're not and that also like when you are someone who loves yourself despite

00:24:26.440 your own flaws yeah that really bothers you know a lot about this this is kind of your whole this is

00:24:32.460 oh yeah kind of the whole thing yeah is like it really upsets people when you love yourself

00:24:38.120 yeah like how dare you isn't that wild yeah it is very weird it's weirdo behavior because they don't

00:24:43.980 love themselves and they've just been conditioned to believe for however long that like if they don't

00:24:49.640 look a certain way then they don't deserve love or respect and then when or happiness really and

00:24:55.920 then when you see someone that looks like what you perceive to be unattractive because of what the

00:25:00.580 world has not even unattractive different that's what I'm saying like it's literally just like what

00:25:04.680 you perceive to be unattractive because that's what you've been told is unattractive and they're

00:25:09.380 living their life and they're happy and they're in love and they're successful and they're just

00:25:13.640 fulfilled you get pissed off like you get pissed off because you're like I don't I don't fucking get it

00:25:18.620 like I fucking hate myself supposed to have yeah I'm gonna make you hate yourself because that's

00:25:23.040 how I feel about myself which is not my fucking problem yeah because I'm not your mom or your

00:25:26.960 therapist yeah uh and if I was I'd be really mean to you probably because you're awful uh but you

00:25:33.740 probably wouldn't turn that out that way honestly

00:25:35.540 I just like have zero sympathy for men who are grown and pay taxes who like willingly sling hate

00:25:50.300 like that and they expect no consequence whatsoever like just no fear no consequence they're like oh

00:25:56.100 I do this all the time people don't care people like to laugh like to laugh and I love to laugh

00:26:00.360 aren't I funny yeah I love to laugh personally so yeah they never like when I join in on the

00:26:05.520 laughs I don't know why I'm just like we're all doing jokes but but I thought that we were making

00:26:10.900 jokes we're all having so much I thought we were safe here yeah even when I talk about it and they're

00:26:14.620 like well how come you can talk about looks and I can't talk about looks I'm like you absolutely

00:26:18.580 can't you can talk about my looks I I honestly I encourage you to do it yeah tag me in it so I

00:26:22.840 could see it yeah the only thing I ask me I dare you yeah tag me in it so I can see it I want to

00:26:27.800 you want to laugh yeah and then as soon as you're done I'll jump in yeah like double dutch yeah your

00:26:33.420 turn then my turn and then we all go home happy we had fun obviously it's like it is all fun and

00:26:38.680 games for the most part but it's like you must have had sort of this crazy evolution of like

00:26:42.300 your skin getting thicker and thicker and thicker yeah I mean I think to an extent I think for me

00:26:47.960 personally like like I said I'm someone so like we love to make fun of each other like not in a mean

00:26:54.480 way but in a like funny silly way and honestly when I was a kid I could not for the life of me

00:27:00.580 take a joke like ever um I used to get so fucking mad yeah like I used to take everything so personally

00:27:06.740 that's so interesting and uh only for my family though and I think it's because like I value their

00:27:12.080 opinions so heavily and if they're making fun of me I like take it personally and nobody likes that

00:27:16.760 person they're a fucking bore yeah and I remember my mom would tell me like you know you got to learn

00:27:22.340 how to take jokes man like no one's gonna want to be your fucking friend if you don't know how to

00:27:25.460 take a joke yeah I was like okay uh and so that got me better at taking a joke like yeah that honestly

00:27:32.580 is my my home life experience and like experience with family extended family is what made my skin

00:27:38.980 thick so by the time I got to this like no one can fucking hurt me like bitch I promise you that

00:27:45.340 like nothing you say is ever gonna hurt my feelings yeah but it is gonna hurt somebody else yeah so

00:27:50.720 that's why I like to think of it as something like I stand in front of it and show people that

00:27:56.740 it doesn't have to hurt if you don't let it and that makes people feel more brave like they're like

00:28:02.020 okay well then if it doesn't hurt her maybe it won't hurt me either that's like originally what

00:28:06.040 made me a fan of you is that thing of like of you being able to be like lol that's so funny now let me

00:28:11.640 tell some jokes because I like I think for me the thing that always rocks my world it's not the like

00:28:18.560 saying the hateful thing because I get people are entitled to their opinions and it's like cool if

00:28:22.760 you don't agree with this thing whatever like this is for people to anonymously come here like

00:28:27.060 facelessly and say truly the crazy thing that they think that they would never say at the party in

00:28:32.080 front of their friends and family right so it's like a breeding ground for that yeah but I guess

00:28:36.140 the thing that I don't I have said this like in my relationships before where I'm like people who

00:28:42.060 love each other don't try to hurt each other exactly I'm gonna hurt you by accident yeah and that's my

00:28:47.840 bad and I will apologize and we will work through it but I'm I will never go out of my way yeah to

00:28:54.480 hurt you on purpose and that's the thing that I guess I'm always like the humanity level of it

00:29:00.980 yeah it's like so void doesn't connect with me because I'm like I have my own thoughts that are

00:29:06.320 fucking hateful that I don't put in the comment section I don't need to if you have nothing nice

00:29:10.480 to say don't say anything at all I can like I truly like do not understand for the life of me like

00:29:15.340 I just have never been that unemployed um I guess just where I would like that's the I like go and

00:29:21.320 look for people I'm busy yeah I have a life that's very fulfilled no truly I have like friends and

00:29:26.500 loved ones and someone who loves me so like I personally can't relate but I just don't understand

00:29:31.440 like seeking people out that you've never met you don't know um you've never encountered in real

00:29:37.220 life and just saying hateful shit for no fucking reason crazy which is honestly what blew my mind about

00:29:42.120 tiktok like a lot of I do so many interviews where they ask me like what made you want to start

00:29:46.360 this like what made you like I mean it was an accident like stuff like this never happens on

00:29:50.120 purpose no just were being yourself in it people were drawn to it well in my niche of like terrorizing

00:29:55.940 men for a living it's like something that's new yeah for me yeah uh but they asked me like did I

00:30:01.560 choose to do that a lot of times I feel like this is also a very pointed and gendered question when

00:30:05.920 they're like oh did something happen to you to make you feel that way which I think they would not say

00:30:09.340 to me if I was a man but that's besides the point that's for my other soapbox but I I was like

00:30:14.540 nothing ever had to happen to me like I could just see terrible shit and not like it yeah say something

00:30:19.700 about it and when I talk to other people like that have been on the show or whatever I've talked about

00:30:25.580 how like I think a huge reason why my community loves me so much is not just because you know I make

00:30:31.420 sillies and I tell them to eat my shit and like fucking funny all of those things are very real and very

00:30:36.080 true and I mean that um for real I hope you choke on it yeah um but I the main thing I think it is

00:30:42.080 is like I validate their experiences uh good and bad but obviously 90% bad on my page but I validate

00:30:49.660 not just their experience and their like you know sadness or their frustration but I validate their

00:30:55.780 anger like I tell them it's okay if you want to be mad if you it's okay if you want to swing back

00:31:01.480 like it's okay if you want to say some shit back like you don't have to take that if you don't want

00:31:05.780 to that doesn't make you a bad person that doesn't make you unlovable that doesn't make you undesirable

00:31:10.260 like that doesn't mean you're gonna die alone and even if you did wouldn't you rather die alone

00:31:13.880 than be with someone who fucking sucks like I'd rather die alone happily you know what I mean I made

00:31:18.460 peace with that so like for not only like the voiceless like I'm the kind of person who's like

00:31:23.320 24 hours later I'm like oh fuck I should have said this you ate another thing you know what I mean

00:31:27.660 it's like so hard for me to in the moment because I'm so I think I'm I'm my my bleeding heart yeah

00:31:33.660 is so shook that someone would say something it's not the thing that they said I'm a Libra

00:31:38.120 love that so my boyfriend's a Libra love that I love this for us what September or October October

00:31:43.820 5th love that yeah what about you when are you October 21st okay you're right on the cusp you're

00:31:49.440 almost a Scorpio I love an October Libra it's my personal preference

00:31:52.940 I'm so shook that you would say the thing that you said in the first place it's not really what

00:31:59.460 you said yeah it's like oh that you chose to say yeah I'm so taken aback yeah by it that I can't I

00:32:08.080 so for me to watch you and you say all the things that I wish that I could think of in the moment I'm

00:32:12.740 like oh fuck yeah yeah come for him you know it's like that is validating and for someone who I think

00:32:17.700 has a harder time putting those I it's really easy for me to speak joy into the world and it's it's

00:32:23.160 more difficult for me to speak about my anger to speak about my hurt it's like more vulnerable almost

00:32:27.920 like I'm yeah I want to be a conduit for good and for you know breeding positivity and making people

00:32:35.260 feel safe with me and all of that absolutely and so I for the most part like the thing that I think I

00:32:40.400 I have a very different experience than you in so many ways is because I my whole fan base is

00:32:46.120 literally like queer people and for a long time it was really exclusively queer men oh yeah and so

00:32:52.300 like I'm right at home so you know what I mean hey sisters like we're all just having everybody's so

00:32:56.780 nice to me yeah and so to to be a little bit on the journey of like the more popular and and visible

00:33:05.220 you become yeah it's like you leave a bubble I've been in a very niche market for a very long time

00:33:10.880 and I was I was have been and still am so fucking lucky like people are so nice to me for the most

00:33:17.860 part I love and so it's like the one you know it'll be a thousand comments that are nice and

00:33:22.420 there's one comment that's like some person who doesn't follow me who just came here to like say

00:33:26.560 you know what I mean I'm like no just for fun for them and I'm like this is fun to you like what's

00:33:31.840 wrong with you and that's crazy and it like so the the fundamental like actual experience of it of

00:33:36.680 like someone having that much hate in their heart makes me I'm like I want to give you a hug oh babe

00:33:41.680 it's like honey needs a hug yeah like honey needs mommy and a job and something better yeah and a

00:33:48.180 girlfriend yeah most likely I that's very valid and I also think that's very normal like to it's a very

00:33:55.940 human experience to feel like empathy at least for women right so like women empathize to like

00:34:04.300 the very very end and I forget I saw this one tiktok this girl talked about this really famous

00:34:09.260 feminist author her name is slipping my mind but she said like when it comes to like if we're just

00:34:15.320 operating within a gender binary when it comes to like violence right against opposite genders

00:34:19.740 there's obviously a staggering difference between violence that men inflict on women versus women on men

00:34:25.820 and why do you think that is like she was saying it's not because there's any shortage of weapons

00:34:31.560 in the world it's literally because women have empathy and like at the very very end of it they're

00:34:36.620 still thinking about you and like they're still prioritizing you and that's because that's what

00:34:41.060 we've been conditioned to do for so fucking long and that's just something that we now innately have

00:34:46.620 because it's just been happening for thousands of years that's been our job is to hold space for other

00:34:53.060 people uh especially men uh especially cis straight white men so then I I think that's another reason

00:35:00.780 why my platform is somewhere where they come to to validate all the other parts of their personality

00:35:06.740 that they want to and that's where I'm like you hold space for them but I'm gonna hold space for you

00:35:11.620 like when I hold space for you that's for you to be angry to be fucking mad to be sad to cry whatever

00:35:17.980 you want to feel yeah but most especially if you want to fucking yell at them and be mean to them

00:35:23.580 because they're mean to you you could do it on my page send it to me I'll do it for you yeah I'll take

00:35:27.740 all those hits because I don't care about you're like a million of you have tagged me in this video

00:35:31.660 I like when when TikTok as a whole is like true true come yeah like it's like a fucking war cry

00:35:38.700 like it's just a whole like just my name the woman king hundreds of times yeah just hundreds of times

00:35:44.140 yeah even like uh some men have like they get in front of it like they're like they see all those

00:35:49.500 and they're like yeah I don't give a fuck about that bad bitch fuck her fuck her I don't give a

00:35:52.540 fuck she did I hope she fucking does and then I go okay and then I'll stitch it and I'll be like

00:35:56.700 careful what you wish for hey I'm glad we're both on the same team don't report this video you said you

00:36:01.820 wanted it and then they never mean that that's never true and I think it's because they just

00:36:06.860 underestimate like how well first of all how fucking hilarious women and other people are

00:36:13.160 yeah like they are so funny arguably funnier than me yeah uh so like if they come to your page and

00:36:19.360 they're writing hate bitch they're gonna fuck you up yeah as they should yeah as they should I taught

00:36:23.980 them well I also think it's like ingrained in in women in a way to not want people anybody to be afraid

00:36:30.480 of you yeah you don't want any you're like I have a big very deep seated sort of like

00:36:36.160 because I'm big yeah like there's like one specific childhood memory that I have that

00:36:41.520 shaped like a huge part of it's like the gentle giant thing of like yeah I a teacher like I was

00:36:47.620 you know play fighting with a kid and we were both involved in it it was me and this girl in middle

00:36:53.400 school whatever she's one of my really good friends and we were both like kind of being silly

00:36:56.360 but because I'm big the teacher was like you're being a bully like like yeah it's like perceived the

00:37:02.020 situation and was like you're big and scary and need to be like you know smaller yeah and also

00:37:07.720 need to be like you know put in line and said like you can't you can't do this and it was like a very

00:37:13.480 mutual thing that was it was totally a safe experience but from the outside it looked as

00:37:17.760 though I was like big and scary and that is like very traumatizing for me as a kid being like no I'm

00:37:24.000 that's why probably why I have big great dane thinks they're a chihuahua vibes in my adult life

00:37:28.760 yeah and so it's it's like I think that you wear the like yeah be fucking afraid of me yeah you

00:37:35.860 should be don't say stupid shit then yeah is like really empowering because I think that's something

00:37:40.640 that I have a lack of and that's what like draws me to you so much is because it like it is really

00:37:46.400 like it lights a fire in me and so many others clearly that tickles me pink yeah when men are afraid

00:37:51.660 of me I love that yeah that makes me a little giddy yeah even when I meet men in real life and

00:37:56.300 they're like yeah like I can tell when they're a little bit nervous yeah when they're creators like

00:38:00.560 especially and uh like I remember one time this guy came up to me at something and he was like hey

00:38:06.280 like big fan of your content like congrats on the show this is like a year ago I was like oh thanks man

00:38:12.320 I love your I don't get a lot of straight men coming up to me and being like big fan yeah uh that

00:38:18.820 never happens like one I mean tbh same for very different reasons but same one out of fucking 50

00:38:25.660 right and so like I'm like he's like yeah you know you actually made a video about me and I go

00:38:31.000 I made a video about you I'm screaming and then he goes yeah and I go and you're a fan of mine

00:38:35.540 I'm screaming now currently or was and then he was like no no like I just like I was just kidding

00:38:41.480 around and like you know like I'm not I'm not a bad guy I just like I made it like joke and it

00:38:47.180 like got to the wrong side and I was like oh okay uh-huh interesting and then he's like yeah

00:38:53.000 you know you know it's like over explaining because he's like getting increasingly more

00:38:57.960 uncomfortable because I'm refusing to make him comfortable that's another thing too that I do

00:39:02.800 like I do not make you comfortable if you piss me the fuck off I'm gonna I'm going to act as if

00:39:07.880 you piss me the fuck off yeah and I'm I'm literally gonna like be very dead silent and very cold to you

00:39:13.820 yeah and make you uncomfortable and I don't give a fuck like which is what women normally do they

00:39:17.740 like cushion the space and they try to be like well no I totally get it no it's totally fine which is

00:39:22.200 just like innate like it's just something that we do in me yeah because we just don't want anyone to

00:39:25.860 be uncomfortable and that's not a bad thing yeah uh but neither is standing up for yourself either

00:39:29.840 that's what I always tell people it's like neither side is bad like if you feel disrespected and you

00:39:34.280 want to say something about it you have every right to and men can do it all the fucking time and nobody

00:39:38.940 cares when I do it I'm just a raging bitch but like it's just the double standard we live within it

00:39:44.960 we're two of the biggest bitches in in Hollywood baby yeah and we the two of us in Gwendolyn

00:39:58.180 two of the hottest men that exists on the planet are and it's like so funny because it's like yeah of

00:40:04.260 course because they see us for who we are which is fucking beautiful on the outside and on the

00:40:09.760 inside I said it takes a bad bitch to date a bad bitch that's what I'm saying so like when you have

00:40:15.380 shit like the fucking Jonah Hill shit or Kiki Palmer's employee acting up when you have shit like

00:40:21.200 that happen that's literally that's literally because Kiki Palmer's employee just fucking took me

00:40:27.460 an extremely mediocre man dating a woman far and far above his pay grade I'm telling you right now

00:40:34.160 I'm screaming I'm screaming I'm screaming it happens every time and they churn and you know what's crazy

00:40:38.800 is that men like that convince women like them that they're equals and they're like okay yeah no for

00:40:45.100 sure I believe you like we're equals and then when they start to see what a fucking star they are like

00:40:50.400 they start to see how they shine and how beautiful they are and they're magnetic and they attract attention

00:40:55.080 which is natural and it happens right uh they get insecure and then they take it out on her and

00:41:00.100 then what they do instead of like getting their own fucking bread up like getting your own job

00:41:04.040 or your own house or your own wi-fi uh instead of doing that what they do instead is they try to

00:41:09.000 stomp out her light which that's the shit that pisses me the fuck off yeah because I'm like if you're

00:41:13.540 just not that girl then date a mediocre person I don't fucking know and by the way there are

00:41:18.980 there are a ton of people out there who are right for you who go like I don't want all that

00:41:23.100 attention I want one man to give me my attention I don't want any of that it's like but you didn't

00:41:27.920 you you wanted me yeah and this is what I am and I attract a different subsect of whatever it is and

00:41:35.140 so it's like it takes a very very secure man absolutely to let a woman shine for all that she

00:41:41.840 is and step back and go look at her I'm so proud to call her mine not I'm so afraid that that I'm not

00:41:48.240 enough and that I'm instead of like fixing my own shit like going to therapy yeah or healing

00:41:53.560 instead of doing that I'm gonna take it out on you and try to like basically cut you down to my

00:41:58.180 level so I don't feel intimidated which is why I feel like the idea of emasculation or emasculating

00:42:03.700 a man is a fallacy I don't think that's real because you cannot emasculate someone who doesn't draw

00:42:08.520 power from pushing you down so like you can't you literally can't do that to someone who does not

00:42:13.220 feel good when you're lesser than them like they have to step on you in order to feel tall like

00:42:18.720 that's not something like you it's not possible to do that to a man who doesn't feel the need to do

00:42:23.880 that so I'm like my my boyfriend for example like doesn't feel good or powerful by making me smaller

00:42:30.620 than him like by making me shrink down so he can shine like that doesn't make him feel good doesn't

00:42:35.920 exist he loves me because I shine no matter what yeah and that's like that's an equal footing partner

00:42:41.540 like that's why I'm like that's someone you should be with is someone who makes you feel

00:42:44.980 proud to be who you are like they're proud of you they're proud to be with you and they act like it

00:42:50.740 and how proud are you of them then exactly in return to be like and now it's your time to go

00:42:57.260 shine and I'm so happy to support you and watch you do that it's like it doesn't just have to be

00:43:01.920 you know it's it's so it's so transparent also that's the crazy part is that it's rare like yeah

00:43:07.120 to have men like the ones that we have that's rare which is upsetting and an unfortunate reality

00:43:12.880 but it's true yeah and that's not something that ever needs to be like rewarded you know what I'm

00:43:19.240 saying like even like my boyfriend's like I don't know because people are like how do you just like

00:43:23.920 let her be herself and he's like girl I don't fucking know like I just I love her I want her to be

00:43:30.560 happy it's like not like spirit deep spiritual work for me to like allow so that you could let

00:43:37.280 her live her life I mean I don't fucking know that's why he's like I've never felt the need to

00:43:43.420 change her yeah um because I don't I don't care what other people like perceive to be like manly or

00:43:50.940 what's not manly or that's so wild girl I don't fucking I was I'm like you know what what's sad is

00:43:56.100 that they feel the need to ask that question because it is so rare yeah to find straight men

00:44:00.200 who are not awful yeah and I get it trust me I get it yeah but that's why I've been through your fair

00:44:05.700 share of sort of yeah it's like I was I made this joke the other day I was like honestly every girl

00:44:10.280 has one one that they like all the red flags eyes closed yeah all fucking time I didn't see

00:44:16.180 anything everyone has one really bad one like really bad where you're like hey um that was like

00:44:21.740 screaming in your fucking face how did you not one or several but yeah yeah some people have

00:44:25.700 more but everyone has one really bad one like where it was kind of like that's kind of on me

00:44:31.820 yeah like oh that's my bad yeah yeah my bad that's on me I take that one all the other ones that's not

00:44:37.620 my fault yeah and I think it also like it you get like primed right you go through your life experience

00:44:43.960 going like okay I liked a lot of this but I didn't like this one thing and so that's like that outshines

00:44:49.360 all this stuff and so now I've learned this lesson here and I think I really believe in like you tell

00:44:53.680 the universe what you're ready for period me too and so when you are like in a position where you

00:44:58.660 continue to accept something that does not work for you and you know that it doesn't work for you

00:45:02.240 and you continue it's like your life will never grow to be the thing that you want it to be you're

00:45:06.040 never going to move past this point this you know you can't you cannot survive those relationships

00:45:12.320 without losing part of yourself and so the second that especially women but just humans go like

00:45:19.360 here's a line in the sand for me actually even if it's the scariest decision the most painful decision

00:45:26.340 the most like kind of confronting decision especially for female body people who feel as

00:45:32.520 though they are unable to make those really confrontational things because we are bred to

00:45:37.340 make other people feel safe yeah when you go hey this doesn't work for me all of a sudden I've

00:45:42.680 in my experience when I've made those huge decisions the universe goes finally yeah bitch

00:45:49.620 we've been waiting for years for you to say no more so that we can give you what's next for you

00:45:55.380 exactly and I can't give it to you if you're not right if you're not ready to say I this is what I

00:46:00.280 actually yeah you're not ready to receive it yeah yeah I feel I feel that so deeply I've talked about

00:46:05.460 that too especially when you're dating man unfortunately um and I've talked about too like how sometimes I feel

00:46:11.980 like especially women but literally anyone like when you're dating men is like sometimes you pick

00:46:17.800 people that you know are not good for you you know that but you can predict the outcome so you're like

00:46:24.840 we'll see like if they treat me like shit I knew they were a bad person so it doesn't hurt me as bad

00:46:28.360 to lose them and you do that your idea of safe yeah you're yeah it's basically staying safe settling

00:46:34.360 right you're like I'm with someone that doesn't scare me because I don't want to be scared I don't want to

00:46:39.540 feel scared and I don't want to be vulnerable like that because falling in love is an act of

00:46:43.260 vulnerability it truly is especially with a man but just in general um so I think like sometimes you

00:46:49.600 make those choices actively because you're thinking to yourself like if this doesn't work out

00:46:53.400 then I was right yeah like and if it does work out well I'm pleasantly surprised you know what I

00:46:58.540 mean and then you can predict the ending and then it doesn't hurt as bad and I think that's something

00:47:03.840 that you do to protect yourself and that's valid but I also think like you said you'll never truly

00:47:09.380 get there like you'll never get to where you you've always wanted to be you'll never experience the love

00:47:14.340 that you've always wanted because you're too afraid to walk out on a limb and that's fair

00:47:18.820 everyone moves at their own pace yeah but um at some point you're gonna have to do it and if I have

00:47:23.660 to kick you off it I will yeah it feels like it's such a fucking cliche but it's like you're

00:47:28.700 I mean I'm I feel this way literally doing Broadway right now it's like a metaphor for my

00:47:34.720 whole life of like it's probably the scariest thing I've done in a long time has to be that

00:47:38.760 I love Broadway so I am in awe of you I truly am it's so that he's in Hadestown everyone yes I am

00:47:45.340 baby and it's like something completely different to what I normally do I mean I perform so I have you

00:47:51.160 know it's not as if I don't have experience in the thing but like yeah I in you're an artist in

00:47:55.200 your own way and I think that this is something that's particularly like for those people who

00:47:59.520 have those artistic souls it's like you are we are searching for something that is

00:48:05.280 greater that lights that spark in you yeah and so the only way that that spark gets lit

00:48:11.940 is fear yeah trying something new and it's like I have goosies because it's like oh like it has

00:48:18.820 been sort of this crazy experience but like you know I spent I've spent 10 years like performing

00:48:23.040 Betty Who shows and like I have the best time and I love it and performing is what lights me up and

00:48:27.940 that is my number one favorite thing to do on the planet but I also know I know what that's going to

00:48:32.780 feel like yeah I know exactly what that show feels like I know exactly what it feels like being in the

00:48:36.920 green room I know exactly what it feels like after the show cool I've done it a million times and that

00:48:41.580 it makes it very safe yeah and so to be in a position now where I get to find this whole new depth

00:48:46.980 and level of that thing the only way that that I could like ascend to it is to put myself in like

00:48:53.460 the most truly vulnerable position being like cool I'm gonna sit here and sob all through act two

00:48:59.420 I'm acting and I hope that it doesn't look horrible do you believe me I don't know I hope so

00:49:04.780 I guess I'm gonna find out can I do this that's truly so fucking cool and fall on my fucking face and

00:49:11.360 I will and I have already you know what I mean it's like and then you go cool like I don't know I just

00:49:16.060 I keep reminding myself like at the first of one of the first weeks of rehearsal I was like

00:49:20.120 how do people do this full imposter syndrome like losing my fucking mind like I cannot believe I said

00:49:25.900 yes to this I feel like a fucking idiot and I was like reasoning with myself one night in bed being

00:49:30.700 like you are not most people true like you are sitting being like how do those be on the other side

00:49:35.900 of the fence being like how do those people do it how are they capable and it's like the only thing

00:49:40.900 that's holding me back from being on the other side of the fence with those people doing the thing

00:49:44.500 is my own mentality my own fear absolutely and my own like insecurity about myself and what I'm

00:49:50.440 really capable of yeah and so to be like cool I'm I'm actually not on this side of the fence I'm gonna

00:49:55.280 like quietly let myself back onto the other side and go cool I'm over here I'm with these people if

00:50:00.620 you know I'm meant to be here if I wasn't the universe wouldn't have put this in my path exactly so

00:50:05.600 I just say I'm just trying to the more I do this and maybe I don't know if you're having the same

00:50:10.480 experience like I'm letting go in a big way of being like this is what it's supposed to be like

00:50:14.940 yeah I spent the first 10 years of my career being like this is what it's supposed to this is where

00:50:19.220 I'm supposed to be this is how it's supposed to feel yeah trying to force myself into like a box of

00:50:24.100 the thing that I'm experiencing as opposed to actually experiencing what's really happening

00:50:27.640 I feel that and following and so now like when I got the call about Hadestown I was like

00:50:32.820 okay universe wild vibe very unexpected okay like big girl upstairs knows more about what I need

00:50:41.500 than I do period apparently yeah so I'm like fully detaching and going like cool you just send me on

00:50:47.520 your way and tell me where I'm supposed to be and I'll go bring my best self to it and hope I can

00:50:51.740 change hearts and minds and make someone feel something yeah that's so amazing I honestly feel

00:50:57.300 like me personally I'm like nothing ever happens to me by accident yeah like everything happens

00:51:01.320 on purpose for a reason and like before I started doing this I got fired uh for my what I believed

00:51:07.840 to be my dream job I was like I worked my ass off to get that job I aspired to it I got it it's my

00:51:13.720 dream place and it was just and it was uh working sports okay great I worked for a very big um

00:51:19.900 football conglomerate okay you guys can put the pieces together it's three letters I worked for them

00:51:25.820 that was my dream job I wanted it so fucking badly and I got it and it was a nightmare working

00:51:31.240 there and then I got fired at the end uh and when I got fired I was so I'm a Virgo so I was

00:51:36.480 very very when's your birthday September 18th okay coming up soon two seconds babes yes I love

00:51:42.160 this for you very exciting and I how are you celebrating I honestly don't know where the

00:51:46.580 fuck I'll be even tomorrow so great and whenever they're like what are you doing on your birthday

00:51:49.920 I'm like ask me the day before my birthday sounds like you're in the middle of fashion week

00:51:53.220 by the way being like huh where am I I'm like you're lucky I'm alive right now that's all I'm gonna

00:51:58.340 say yeah great I interrupted you I'm sorry so so you were not having a great time and you were like

00:52:02.200 yeah I just felt like were you devastated yeah absolutely I had never experienced something

00:52:09.320 not going to the exact plan that I curated and if it did if if plans faltered I had backup plans and

00:52:14.940 I had backup I did not have a backup plan for getting fired because I'd never planned on getting

00:52:18.840 fired obviously who does yeah uh they asked me never come back and I was like what does that mean

00:52:23.540 isn't it funny because you were like cool I could be this is the dream job so this is I've reached the

00:52:29.320 peak of the thing that I think in my head movies yeah is what my life is supposed to be and the

00:52:34.200 universe was like bitch you're wrong you think I had many opportunities to leave and I didn't I kept

00:52:39.160 saying I'll leave in a little I'll leave in a little because I knew I literally I like if I'm being

00:52:45.060 honest I wasn't going to leave like I kept telling everyone I was because they knew how miserable I was

00:52:48.780 like my family saw how violently depressed I was working there um but I was just like you know I

00:52:54.620 just need like I need to get like a plan together and then like once I have a plan then I'll leave

00:52:58.280 I didn't have a plan I had no no intention of getting a plan no I I would tell myself that but

00:53:02.920 that was a lie and if I didn't get fired I'd probably still be doing that now or trying to

00:53:06.860 anyway and that's why I always like to say the universe had a better plan for me but I wasn't

00:53:12.120 moving fast enough so they fucking kicked me off that shit they were like okay well guess what you're

00:53:16.080 fired and so two weeks after I got fired the pandemic hit so once the pandemic hit then my

00:53:22.320 boyfriend encouraged me to start posting on TikTok because I was like so lost I had never felt such a

00:53:27.460 lack of sense of self I felt so confident in who I was but then I realized now that I'm in therapy uh

00:53:32.480 and I've diagnosed my mental illnesses that I tied a lot of my worth to my external accomplishments like

00:53:38.340 that's how I sought validation it wasn't through men very human yeah it was it was very much so being

00:53:44.240 the best at literally everything everything I tried I'm like I'm gonna be the best everything

00:53:47.020 I put my mind to I'm gonna succeed at that's like how I sought validation yeah uh so this was the one

00:53:52.560 thing in my entire life that did not work out not only the way I planned but it went down in fucking

00:53:57.400 flames and so I was like I need like something else to like focus all my energy on because I didn't

00:54:03.600 know what I was gonna do isn't it so interesting too that your boyfriend encouraged you yeah to do it

00:54:08.440 the beginning of the thing that has now changed your life and has like created this whole world

00:54:13.300 for you that makes men mad yeah was like the fire was lit under your ass by a really secure man

00:54:19.320 if you have a problem with me beyond TikTok take it up with him it's his fault talk to my boyfriend

00:54:24.740 speaking of TikTok we're gonna talk about some TikToks because obviously as you can tell from

00:54:38.520 the first fucking 40 minutes of this episode we're talking about being tall powerful women

00:54:42.220 and how that threatens misogyny period because it goes against gender norms and again gender is not

00:54:47.820 real look it up okay so here's the first video uh this first one is the man on this podcast uh oh

00:54:55.760 bad start uh is super upset and arguing with a woman about how men are ridiculed online if they're

00:55:01.700 not tall enough he says some of the best fighters on the planet are under six feet tall some of the

00:55:07.340 best marines okay Jeff Bezos uh-oh he also says men rejecting women for having a high body count

00:55:15.140 is biologically valid but women rejecting short men is not hold on so much to unpack I have so much

00:55:22.100 to say about this first of all right some of the best fighters why is violence the first thing you

00:55:27.220 think of I'm screaming because it's like they are dominant and physical and that makes that means

00:55:33.600 that they are real men right to which I say are you one of those men no right so I guess you're useless

00:55:39.740 fucking woman like me yeah yeah you get in line bitch you know what I mean uh that's one uh some

00:55:45.720 of the best marines first of all some of the marines I've met are some of the worst human beings

00:55:50.700 I've ever met in my entire life because I lived in Hawaii for a while and they have a huge marine

00:55:54.160 base there girl some of those men especially because again you're a big woman and we're big people

00:56:02.600 and if it's this is your insecurity it's so transparent and then all of a sudden you're having

00:56:06.620 this like the same experience over and over again I think I've only met a handful that have been like

00:56:11.720 nice people but for the most part a lot of the men I've met are also like again you're like resorting

00:56:18.240 to something that's like why is your job your job also doesn't mean that you're a good person

00:56:23.380 like it doesn't matter that's like I I don't understand I don't understand the points that are

00:56:27.800 being made you know how to shoot a gun and that means you're worthy of respect that's weird

00:56:32.060 yeah that's another thing I think you should check in with a therapist like hey why do I think

00:56:36.680 about that I feel like mutual respect for people regardless of their gender it's like what makes

00:56:42.020 you a respectable person question mark why do that when have gun yeah you know what I mean have gun

00:56:47.900 no need yeah sure right okay got it okay I'm okay I think I get it I think I'm with him now got it

00:56:52.480 got it okay okay totally done gun equals okay cool cool it's just like my job is beach like my job is

00:56:58.720 I'm screaming my job is gun so I guess that's really all I need to say give a resume just says

00:57:04.220 gun on there oh my gosh hired immediately yeah sure best employee and he says uh men rejecting

00:57:11.800 women for having high body count is biologically valid this one is this one is the one that makes

00:57:14.740 me really mad that's the funniest part I've talked about that so many times how like they act uh I

00:57:20.760 forget it's pair bonding that's what they always talk about biology uh pair bonding is literally a

00:57:25.560 theory that was created by people who study birds I'm screaming birds bitch not humans birds birds

00:57:32.580 and you know what's so crazy is like their their understanding of pair bonding is literally that

00:57:38.100 female birds have multiple male partners over their lifetime every single mating cycle they pick

00:57:44.960 someone else to ensure the the survival of their blood line or their their species yeah right that's

00:57:50.820 their animal instinct okay birds birds bitch birds by the way birds um but even a fucking bird whose

00:57:58.100 brain is this big uh literally picks the strongest mate that means like the biggest the strongest the

00:58:05.200 healthiest if you're small if you're weak if you're sick they're not gonna fucking pick you because

00:58:10.480 they're one healthy babies yeah yeah so um you're wrong especially about like they don't do that in

00:58:15.380 nature they don't pick they don't pick like short guys in nature that's actually not true

00:58:19.020 i'm screaming hilarious isn't it it's so funny how you guys just regurgitate pseudoscience and

00:58:23.560 all of a sudden it's real because like some bald bitch on a podcast said it i'm screaming and

00:58:26.560 they're like has to be real jordan peterson said it i'm wrong i don't understand like what about

00:58:31.360 a woman's height or stature has anything to do like bio do you know what i mean like that and then

00:58:36.640 like well biologically it's like like a plus b does not equal apple i'm like i'm so confused well

00:58:44.540 it's not my fault your genetics are whooping your ass bitch take that up with god i don't know

00:58:47.580 why she hates you i don't know why her and your barber hate you i have a feeling i know why she

00:58:50.900 hates you but i mean i have a hunch yeah but i don't know take it up with her yeah i just always

00:58:56.240 think like you're you're getting mad at me because you got the short end of the signal pun intended

00:59:00.980 that's not my fault i'm screaming that's not my fault bitch but also like why are you so mad

00:59:07.580 that's the real question why does me existing make you so mad i don't know man i'm just like

00:59:16.480 i got too much going on up here to like care that much about people that don't affect me

00:59:22.420 also get some fucking platform boots honey i would love to see you in a heel work it bitch get an apple

00:59:27.080 box i don't care i don't give a fuck fucking that's my guy right there that's my short king he

00:59:32.120 married nicole kidman he doesn't give he doesn't care you know what i'm saying like it doesn't have

00:59:36.440 to be that serious no literally that's i'm like you you over complicate things like men like that

00:59:42.340 over complicate things who are some short kings that we love joe jonas is a short king that i really

00:59:46.800 ride for i mean given the recent news don't know jury's out tbd i have met the jonas brothers though

00:59:54.160 they are very small they are small when i tell people that they're they're shocked they're like

00:59:58.460 really i'm like yeah you can tell by looking at them smell it we can smell it that's what i'm

01:00:03.500 saying that's exclusive to us like but like i could tell that they were small but most people

01:00:08.660 can't yeah and when i say small i mean smaller than me but like yeah i think i think kevin's the

01:00:14.400 tallest and he's probably like five seven ish five eight i don't know i yeah don't look up height

01:00:19.700 online it's fucking wrong i'm telling you right now it's always wrong mine says i'm five four

01:00:24.180 that's absolutely insane yeah what's it what for and you know what the website that it's written on

01:00:30.220 has a bunch of grammatical errors so i'm like why are you listening to this like i'm absolutely

01:00:34.620 screaming but like they are shorter when i met them i look like shaquille o'neal in that room oh

01:00:40.320 thousand percent i can't even imagine you sending this speaking of shaquille o'neal the only picture

01:00:45.760 that i look like a tiny sexy little baby is me and shaquille o'neal we did a prom pose

01:00:51.040 i love that i was guest uh i was i was the guest band on watch what happens live andy cohen

01:00:56.800 at south by southwest many many years ago and shaq was a guest and i remember so specifically

01:01:02.840 andy cohen being like asking he had questions for him on the thing and then at the end he just goes

01:01:06.460 shaq how big is your dick he just was like and shaquille takes his shoe off and just puts it because

01:01:12.540 he's like a size you know whatever 106 and he just puts his shoe and it's this long and he just puts

01:01:17.640 it on his leg and everybody screams and we took pictures after and i was like i'm inclined to

01:01:22.200 believe him you know i look like a baby you look like never in my strong five never in my life have

01:01:29.460 i looked like a baby you look like 12 year old you thanks shaquille o'neal thank you thanks daddy

01:01:34.540 okay some of the comments on this video this one says yes women hate short men for some reason

01:01:40.000 explain why i can't because i love them how much time do you have i can tell you i'm just kidding

01:01:44.820 i only hate men i only hate short men who are awful and many of you are i don't know why

01:01:50.080 i mean i know why i just don't know why you continue to lean into it the stereotype yeah i

01:01:55.740 mean listen i'm i can't i can't relate because i i ride for a short king who doesn't give a fuck

01:02:00.940 about what's crazy is most most tall women do ride like shock shockingly like honestly like what you

01:02:08.760 said earlier about your uh some of your friends who are like i only want to date men nine times out of

01:02:13.400 ten that's a short curl yeah and like nine times out of ten hannah you hear me my fucking friend

01:02:18.680 hannah is dating this guy daniel who we love daniel the six foot seven and whenever anybody any of my

01:02:24.020 friends come to a show i'm like where are my friends there's daniel i see him it's actually kind

01:02:28.140 of nice because he is like the beacon of how where i know where they're standing in the crowd that's my

01:02:31.600 boyfriend but he's five three and it's like great i mean good for you that's what you that's what

01:02:37.360 you wanted and she she's spoken into existence my our whole friendship she's been like i just want

01:02:42.320 someone who is twice my size i mean like go off bitch good for you and that's why i'm like

01:02:47.160 if that's what somebody wants and you're not that then find somebody who wants you that's okay

01:02:53.220 we can all do that like when we talk of preference it can't be something based in bigotry and that's

01:02:59.020 what they always they're like well i don't want a fat bitch now we're crossing into different

01:03:03.900 territory but like that's that's different and also you have a gap in your teeth like you have

01:03:08.960 bigger problems like i don't know why you're talking about people being fat like go see an

01:03:11.580 orthodontist i don't know what to tell you but like that's why i'm like men who say that shit are

01:03:15.320 like first of all fugly but second of all awful like on top of it's like it's it's like it's not

01:03:20.280 about your height is not why women won't date you period that's what we came here that's what i'm saying

01:03:26.180 that's like the that's like at the very bottom of a hundred reason lists and for you to say that

01:03:32.120 this is the whole reason is because i'm short and it's like no it's because you're being a dick

01:03:35.980 yeah you're honestly you're not being honest with yourself like not even a little bit like

01:03:41.120 you're it's probably because i'm too nice that's another one yeah you're right when i see a man and

01:03:47.040 they're nice to me i'm like ew you know what i'm saying like i do that to men regardless but like

01:03:52.360 especially when i talk to me in public i'm like what i'm interested to know how men react to you

01:03:57.700 like on the street in public i mean like now after everything that's happened um i don't really get

01:04:02.420 anything okay great great um again i think it's because like they they obviously like you said

01:04:08.440 earlier they talk real crazy behind anonymous screens like that empowers them because people

01:04:13.120 aren't that crazy in in real life like most people don't say 99 of things that get said online in the

01:04:18.900 real world because you would get slapped and if they and if they do they were at the capital on

01:04:23.940 january 6th so they got bigger issues you know i'm saying they're under investigation currently so

01:04:27.380 don't worry about that yeah like i i literally when i do see men in real like and i also

01:04:32.240 think they they don't understand how big i am like physically and tall like i'm literally they

01:04:37.180 see me and they're like god damn yeah like i like they can tell how big i am like yeah and my

01:04:42.520 boyfriend's big too especially if you you two are walking around together yeah you're like say

01:04:46.160 something yeah that's why i'm like they never say anything to me but i don't run in circles with

01:04:50.180 awful fucking men so like that's another reason i don't yeah come into that problem a lot because i

01:04:54.540 don't hang out with people i fucking hate so you know every man i do interact with uh the few

01:04:59.880 straight men that are in my life and are friends with me um are friends with my boyfriend they have

01:05:05.300 their own loving relationships they're good men like they're good guys like that's why i'm like

01:05:09.560 period love that yeah and it turns out i'm not mean to you when you're not awful so yeah it's like

01:05:14.620 it's such a like crazy part of the like population of the internet because it's like in real life i'm

01:05:20.040 like i love all these men in my life because they're kind and generous and and sweet men who aren't

01:05:26.000 like completely transparently insecure to the point that it's ruining the relationships in

01:05:29.620 their life even my dad like i well first of all i forgot to bring this up so i'm sorry amanda i need

01:05:35.000 to bring this up really quick uh i'm just like you have to you have to wrap it up uh you're from

01:05:41.860 australia so many men hate me there oh i've kicked that hornet so many times sometimes i'll just go and

01:05:49.340 i i'd be like what's going on in here i'll go in there i'll fuck it up and then i'll revisit them in

01:05:53.520 like three months i'm so glad that you brought this up because i i have had such an interesting

01:05:58.240 experience it's crazy growing up in australia looking like my me yeah i truly have never felt

01:06:05.480 more like less valuable that's crazy because of culture in a really interesting way and when i go

01:06:12.660 back to australia i'm super tricked like i am like turned because i'm very confident i'm very comfortable

01:06:19.140 with who i am and i go back to australia and i turn into like an insecure 10 year old again because

01:06:23.780 i feel like men truly do not look at me twice and i'm used to being looked at a lot first of all which

01:06:30.200 i enjoy and so it's very strange to me that men just like won't give me the time of day i'm like

01:06:34.560 and i i do believe it's because i do not fit like and i especially in sydney like there is a i that's

01:06:41.680 where i grew up so i can only speak to that there is a certain type of woman that looks a very

01:06:47.000 certain type of way in australia and it kind of reminds me in la in la yeah i feel like i know

01:06:53.040 the energy like the vibe it's a different it's because it's not as sort of like kardashian based

01:06:58.000 yeah la is very like kardashian coded yeah i feel you um and listen i ride for the for the whole

01:07:04.180 k clan listen those are my girls i'm i'm in on it so it's like this is not this is no tea no shade

01:07:09.740 yeah um but but i get what you're saying los angeles culture is very based off of like there is an

01:07:14.060 archetype and people are trying to conform to that thing and it doesn't look the same in sydney

01:07:17.580 but there is that same thing and it's like blonde skinny i picture like blue crush you know that

01:07:23.820 movie one trillion percent exactly that by the way sexual awakening blue crush by the way that's the

01:07:30.360 girl whoa she is but that's the girl and it was so interesting especially growing up six foot when i

01:07:36.120 was 12 whoa yeah yeah like my i moved to america when i was 15 and i went to art schools it was very

01:07:43.940 queer it was very different you know what i mean it was so like truly from a to c like different ends

01:07:49.880 of the spectrum and i i'm realized culturally how much more i feel like i fit in here because

01:07:55.360 tall poppy is really the tall poppy like um culture in australia where it's the tallest poppy is the

01:08:01.600 first one to get cut down so that's what we call tall poppy syndrome yeah and so i i feel as though

01:08:07.760 like moving to america the fact that i was kind of like silly and loud and like a silly goose and like

01:08:14.480 knee slapping all the time i was like oh these are i feel much more comfortable doing that here

01:08:19.000 yeah because i've felt very other in australia in a way that i which is crazy to me i don't think i

01:08:26.240 could process or understand is at a young age and now when i go back there i'm like whoa that is so

01:08:31.620 interesting to me and i have a huge i have a huge fan base like outside of the u.s my the second

01:08:37.260 country that's the biggest fan base is australia and i know why now speaking of a voice for women

01:08:43.180 who feel voiceless i literally know i don't know what the fuck is in the water down there but like

01:08:47.260 the men are like like like that movie gremlins like you fucking get them wet and they're like

01:08:52.600 it's so it's bad i can't even tell you i have torn down like hundreds of australian men i and they

01:09:01.840 just keep multiplying like roaches and it's crazy really interesting and they are crazy like the shit

01:09:08.280 they say is just absolutely insane to me i cannot believe they're so much older they're like because

01:09:15.940 you know like here i mean not that there's any age that men stop being a fucking dickhead if they're an

01:09:19.920 awful person but like here a lot of times it's in a certain age range that i kind of figure like

01:09:25.040 that's where they sit uh it's like an immaturity like yeah it's like they're like fresh out of like

01:09:31.800 puberty fresh in college and they're feeling themselves because they're 19 and totally but

01:09:36.960 like i'm not australia it's like consistently through all ages i cannot believe it it's honestly

01:09:41.580 shocking to me i i guess i just knew very little about australia but like i did not think it was like

01:09:46.140 that down there and they fucking hate me like i have i have so many ops in australia it's crazy

01:09:52.520 very triggering in australia to those to those it's bad and every time i make those jokes i have like

01:09:57.640 my australian fans they'll message me and they're like no it's not a joke it's really bad it's like

01:10:01.880 worse than you think yeah they're like it's it's 10 times worse than you think like what you see

01:10:05.740 online is like the very very tip of the iceberg which is truly insane crazy uh and also the australian

01:10:11.280 man i've torn down some those are some of my biggest videos i've ever had wow and they were

01:10:16.260 committed to me like they one guy like he made like 17 videos about me he tried to like rally people

01:10:23.260 against me and that's so and all i said was that he had a size 8 shoe turns out i was right i'm

01:10:29.920 screaming got hit in the shot in the dark and i hit him i'm screaming i don't think i realized how

01:10:33.860 bad it was when i was living there until you have the like stark contrast yeah and different

01:10:38.220 experience of being valued for my otherness yeah and i was lucky because i went to an

01:10:41.600 high school and like have surrounded myself with artists who are different and and can celebrate

01:10:46.820 value that and so to then go back when i was a little bit older i was like oh i've always felt

01:10:51.520 really out of place here like oh so i was right as far as like relationship as being a woman a female

01:10:58.080 bodied person to my relationship to men yep and it's it's just really and it's again like i don't want

01:11:04.320 to say like i have many great australian male friends who are wonderful and don't present all

01:11:09.260 of those qualities but like culturally it's 100 and it's very normal yeah and like not to say it's

01:11:15.680 not bad here because it is but i i think it's just like a it's like a different level of intensity and

01:11:21.000 i don't think i would have ever known that had i not done this for a living because i've seen it

01:11:25.420 and well you're so confronted by it now you're like yeah well it's just i'm so exposed to it now and

01:11:30.700 i'm on like some of the worst australian men in the world hate me and they live there and i i

01:11:35.640 remember too like one guy i made a video about him and it was it did really well and he like would

01:11:41.020 not stop talking about me for like six months it was a long time like i really made him very very

01:11:46.060 angry and that's so great it's like me thinks the lady doth protest too much yeah i'm like well i

01:11:51.680 did that too if i was bucky fat like they said that shit about me who's obsessed with who so i'm

01:11:55.400 saying change that profile picture to a picture of me because you're a fan account you know what i mean

01:11:58.780 like you're doing promo for me yeah yeah i'm fucking bts at this point your back is to the

01:12:04.540 sun and i can see the plaque on your teeth like you have bigger problems babe like get a water pick

01:12:09.000 you know what i'm saying gingivitis worry about that like i will get it for you for christmas yeah

01:12:14.180 yeah i mean like you've given me enough you've given me enough so maybe i can do this for you yeah

01:12:18.920 we're not in medieval times so don't brush your teeth like we are you know what i'm saying which is

01:12:22.100 not at all yeah um but anyways

01:12:28.780 that's gonna do it for this episode but before we sign off what would you say is your best piece

01:12:38.280 of like advice whether it's about like loving yourself or whatever especially from a tall

01:12:42.960 bitches out there like who are struggling to come to terms with their height because i'm sure you get

01:12:47.240 this a lot but i've gone a lot of women have really come into their own uh dressing like how they want

01:12:53.580 and feeling confident about being tall because i did hate myself for being tall for a very long time

01:12:57.760 but now i love being tall that's so sad it is sad i wasted so much time when i say a lot of time

01:13:03.060 it's like throughout high school of course but like once i came into it and i discovered platforms i

01:13:08.000 was like period yeah really quick when i did the oscars and i i interviewed on the which was so

01:13:13.440 fucking fun by the way that look it was so great i was like i want you to do it every year you and me

01:13:17.780 both yes did you hear that oscar when i changed shoes i like because i obviously can't stand in heels

01:13:24.580 for like six hours but when i changed i have these really big platform crocs oh my god and i i brought

01:13:29.820 those to wear and i was like i brought those because i want to still be tall well like like

01:13:34.060 some not that i'm not going to be taller than everyone even on my bare feet anyway like or like

01:13:37.500 a flat shoe but i wanted to be extra tall yeah because i love absolutely absolutely so we've embraced

01:13:42.680 it yeah so what would you say is your best piece of advice for those who are still working to embrace

01:13:47.000 uh their tallness and love it um one of the best pieces of advice that i was ever given that i think

01:13:56.360 applies to a lot of different stuff is to go where the energy goes and what i mean by that is i've spent

01:14:03.180 a ton of time we kind of talked about this earlier like trying to force yourself into relationships with

01:14:08.660 people who don't value the best parts of you trying to force myself into parts of my career that

01:14:13.460 felt like it was where i was supposed to be not where i actually was and so the second that i let

01:14:19.200 go of my sort of preconceived and also sort of you know the things that i have in my brain that

01:14:25.860 society has told me are supposed to be a certain way absolutely you and i were born outside of that

01:14:32.220 period i feel this way about queerness as well like when you are born the way that you are and you

01:14:37.780 feel the way that you are about the person that you feel the way about to know that that's who you are

01:14:43.140 and that's who the big girl upstairs god whatever you want to call it the universe intended you to

01:14:48.340 be when you stop running from that and start to embrace it and start to go like cool this is what

01:14:53.900 i have to work with what if instead of trying to hide it i actually value what makes me the most

01:14:58.460 different yeah and myself yeah why don't i try investing in those things instead of trying to

01:15:02.900 outrun them or change them you never will yeah especially for us yeah shit especially especially for

01:15:09.440 us big bitches there doesn't seem to be a surgery the opposite of the kneecap but you know extension

01:15:15.220 surgery where we're getting smaller anytime soon and so like an example of how it works is like i

01:15:22.620 literally spent my first three albums trying to be like tiny perfect pop girl because that's what i

01:15:29.720 grew up watching and thinking that that was what was valuable to people and i wanted to be that like

01:15:34.260 there was like a formula for it it's not even that i mean other people wanted me to be it as well

01:15:38.100 but i wanted it i wanted to be britney spears yeah and the second that i was like oh what if i'm

01:15:46.960 me yeah and not britney spears yeah and i wrote a record called big that's literally about embracing

01:15:52.320 all of the kind of pots of me that i've historically thought were the worst pots of me period and wrote

01:15:56.780 songs for that instead of for outrunning them and trying writing songs to to hide those things yeah

01:16:02.480 absolutely it's like was my most successful record to date and has been like the best year of my life

01:16:08.580 and has drawn you know what i love about it it has brought women to me i've been me and the gay boys

01:16:14.140 me me and the gays have been holding it down for 10 fucking years bitch waiting for y'all to join the

01:16:20.240 party we have been waiting for the women i love women i want to support women i've also really i really

01:16:25.140 want to write music for women i want to make women feel amazing about themselves it's something that i'm

01:16:29.520 much more committed to now in my you know as i've reached this part of my life because i was being

01:16:34.120 so hateful towards myself and so i think i wasn't supporting women by not supporting myself yeah in

01:16:38.780 that way and so now that i'm like have embraced me and i'm trying to get i'd like the number of women

01:16:44.180 who come to me now and they're like this speaks to me because of this i'm like fuck yes you're a

01:16:48.700 queen beautiful and amazing and you should feel awesome and be loud and be whatever you want to be

01:16:55.320 and so i think that going where the energy flows because the energy was due i was like hitting my

01:17:00.240 head against a brick wall being like why aren't i britney spears yeah it's like oh because there's

01:17:05.000 only one oops but there's only one betty ho too that's what i'm saying period so i love that and

01:17:11.280 you're just like me for real i love women so much yeah and i support them and i ride for them

01:17:17.460 and unless you're a pick me but if you are we're gonna work on it in therapy yeah fix it immediately

01:17:24.500 fix it uh i'm never gonna be mean to you like i'm mean to men yeah they deserve it uh and oppression

01:17:29.640 and all that but um at the same time fix it because i always think like life is so colorless without

01:17:35.600 women oh my gosh and we need each other the love and warmth of women yeah so special and the gays

01:17:41.080 always listen and anyone else who doesn't fit in any box yeah love you all that's like my favorite

01:17:46.820 part about my demographic like my demographic is literally like 96 4 yeah period that's sick some

01:17:52.940 people ask me like how do i change my demographic i'm like i was really quite simply you just make

01:17:57.520 them fucking hate you it's kind of how i did it personally that was my journey but do it how you

01:18:02.220 will i was like i spent about like i spent like six seven years being like 90 men 10 women

01:18:08.200 that's crazy queer men yeah and so i we were rocking and rolling and now it's like 60 40 60 40 60 women

01:18:14.440 and i'm like come here girls yeah we're having a cool fun time let's go lesbians yes especially i mean

01:18:21.480 listen i get it i'm with you so i love it i love you so much i'm really grateful amazing i love i love

01:18:29.000 this for us period y'all make sure you go stream all of betty who's music including her new single big

01:18:36.220 and also go see her in hadestown yeah on broadway bitch yes if you weren't so busy with fashion week

01:18:41.400 i'd say you should come see the show um listen i am not saying that i will not uh skip out on stuff

01:18:46.600 for your show but i will skip out on stuff for your show you're gonna text me we'll figure it out

01:18:50.500 if it works it works you guys heard it she can't take it back now she said it on camera

01:18:54.560 hold me to it so much i'm obsessed with you i love you so much you're amazing where can everybody

01:18:59.540 find you um at betty who babes my uh instagram and tiktok love and like i said go stream all her

01:19:07.400 music and go see her in hadestown playbill certified it's pretty crazy is that the coolest thing ever

01:19:12.760 seeing yourself in a playbill the theater the day that opening night was they have these you know each

01:19:16.560 week they get their stacks of playbills and i saw them you know they were tied up with twine like it was

01:19:20.360 fucking newsies and i literally i like ripped one open and oh and i was like who was trying to find

01:19:25.560 my seeing my face there especially under lilius white who is like one of the original fates from

01:19:30.300 hercules awesome who puts the glad in gladiator that's insane it is so crazy to share the stage

01:19:35.880 with her so i have so many incredible performers every night and so i was just like i'm so honored

01:19:39.580 and i'm so excited about this chapter i'm honored to know you oh feeling is mute babe yeah thank you so

01:19:46.340 much for coming on the show thank you you're amazing thank you all for tuning in to this episode

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