The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - ERIKA & KIRSTEN TITUS ARE SPINNING OUT (Ft. Erika & Kirsten Titus) ｜ Episode 233

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00:01:06.060 i think it's better if they just acknowledge like they know that they're a good looking person but

00:01:13.320 it's not really a big part of their personality okay yeah you know what i mean that's literally

00:01:17.500 like body neutrality but for men you should just know that you're like neutrality

00:01:28.120 hey everyone and welcome back to another episode of the comment section show sorry me your fave

00:01:32.220 everybody knows me who cares about me on to the guests today we have two iconic legendary 0.68

00:01:38.980 hilarious sisters the one the only kirsten and erica titus 0.69

00:01:43.000 wow wow that was such a cheerful welcome welcome to the show ladies oh my gosh we're so happy to

00:01:52.300 be here thank you for welcoming us oh my gosh of course anything for y'all my two local kind

00:01:56.840 oh kind baddies speaking of local kind baddies yes we have some local kind omiyage for you

00:02:02.280 oh my god this is like some of our uh friends like favorite yay oh my gosh chocolate covered 0.99

00:02:09.080 pineapple gummy bears for me and not you yeah oh i know an 808 stamp when i see it bitch no i wish 0.99

00:02:15.540 we knew that the whole crew was gonna be here because then we would have no they don't deserve 0.99

00:02:18.920 it only me it's okay only me it's okay just for me thank you guys oh my gosh i'm so excited about

00:02:25.420 this and i also love island princess i've had that before oh yay look at me good it's tea period

00:02:31.260 it's literally from mama titus though even more from us oh she's like oh my gosh you have to give

00:02:34.860 these to drew oh my god your mom loves me too yes oh god what about your brother does your brother

00:02:40.120 love me yes of course what about your dad my dad doesn't i was like he doesn't go online but i'm

00:02:45.360 sure if he did now that you mention it i've actually never thought about that collab let's

00:02:50.640 Let's get dad caught up.

00:02:51.920 Let's get dad caught up.

00:02:52.820 We actually need two.

00:02:53.220 Yeah.

00:02:53.540 On my lore.

00:02:53.860 I don't even think our dad knows that we're here right now.

00:02:55.760 No, he definitely doesn't.

00:02:57.320 My dad's the same.

00:02:58.300 He's kind of one.

00:02:58.940 He just kind of knows what I tell him.

00:03:00.420 Yeah, exactly.

00:03:01.020 Outside of that, he's cool.

00:03:02.240 Yeah, exactly.

00:03:03.180 He doesn't care otherwise.

00:03:04.400 But I'm excited to have you both here.

00:03:06.360 We're so excited.

00:03:06.880 We've all, we've been moots for years.

00:03:09.300 We have.

00:03:09.720 We have been.

00:03:10.540 We have been mutuals for years.

00:03:11.960 We've been trying to meet up.

00:03:13.080 And I'm glad to finally have you both.

00:03:14.540 Let's do it.

00:03:15.080 I want to talk about, like, lore first.

00:03:17.980 just for those the the two people that may be unfamiliar um for how you guys got on tiktok

00:03:23.320 in the first place yes like let's whichever order you guys pick i think it started with her

00:03:28.000 she she paved the way so you you you would tell your story first um well actually so erica was

00:03:36.500 always a little bit had a little bit of tiktok following going on like in high school like i

00:03:42.720 don't know i don't i don't really know i think every high school because it was like really

00:03:45.460 popping off during when i was in high school so i think everybody just kind of had followers on

00:03:49.080 tiktok but like not a lot so she was the og tiktoker and also she was known for being aesthetic

00:03:52.660 so that was like her thing yeah okay so let's start there so i so that was that was it but i

00:03:57.340 was always telling her like girl like you kind of have a following i was like you gotta post more

00:04:00.920 yeah come on do something and i had an iphone 6 i was like my phone can't even download tiktok

00:04:05.620 i can't even download tiktok it doesn't even work i have this brick 16 gigabytes yeah for real

00:04:10.700 tiktok that's the whole thing you said my storage is full constantly when i tried to go on instagram

00:04:14.440 or instagram the app i had to go on instagram.com that's how i logged in she would take photos on

00:04:18.740 my phone on safari yeah on safari period anyway but i finally my phone broke the iphone 6 broke

00:04:25.040 and then i had to get an iphone 10 as you do right because huge jump because that's how old

00:04:29.920 you have to yeah right and then i was like oh my god i can download tiktok so i download tiktok

00:04:36.180 and i'm like whoa there's so many things on this app oh although my following did start with a man 0.83

00:04:41.900 though drew oh no it started with a man it did it did oh damn it did like a man in your life 0.76

00:04:48.100 no just a man just a man it's a random guy worse anyway that part

00:04:56.520 um so basically i saw this guy on tiktok and i was like whoa he's like really cute and so i made

00:05:04.680 a tiktok about him just about how cute he was and then he saw the tiktok and he commented on it

00:05:10.920 and then a bunch of people wanted us to date and then that's literally how it happened damn and it

00:05:16.460 i'm assuming didn't work out you know with me like me no we can blame him he's not here

00:05:22.960 yeah yeah he's not here we can blame him sure why not it's his fault sure yeah i deem it so

00:05:28.960 yeah right right okay but then you kept making your own content yes yeah even after the fact

00:05:34.740 yeah because i was like oh my gosh people aren't interested yeah i was like i'm just gonna make so

00:05:38.640 many videos and then i started making a ton of videos and then in videos with erica too and i

00:05:42.620 feel like that's what really launched the tiktok career yes but i also feel like erica aside from

00:05:47.740 that has very much made her own content and paved her own way which i think yeah you both have very

00:05:52.320 different arcs i think on tiktok which i think is beautiful it's like me and my sister yeah

00:05:56.960 my sister started making content too after me but i i was kind of similar to you in that i was like

00:06:03.520 encouraging her to do it yeah at the same time i was doing like doing it because i was like dude

00:06:08.080 you're just as funny like you can do the same stuff and like if you just start doing it and

00:06:12.180 then I did it for a while and then she's like okay fine but hers is very different from mine

00:06:16.660 so I think that's a beautiful thing between the two of you what about you Erica when you started

00:06:19.860 um well nepotism yeah that's what my sister called it too no that's literally what it is

00:06:24.920 though I'm like it's a beautiful thing white people have it let's take it too we can do it

00:06:30.520 too we can exactly so she paved the way she with her with her man on tiktok and that and that worked

00:06:37.560 out despite the fact that it didn't but it did honestly it worked out i'm like worked out in the

00:06:41.860 best way i am not mad i'm like literally in the best way you're all wins it's all wins but she

00:06:47.540 was on tiktok first and we were actually going to school together uh we did a year of college

00:06:50.780 together so we were in school together and then she was like you need to hop on tiktok and i was

00:06:55.240 like i'm kind of like in my first year of college like i'm kind of not really uh i don't have time

00:06:59.440 for this yeah i can't do that right now but but then i realized you can post literally anything

00:07:03.080 on tiktok and then i was like whoa i cry every day i was crying genuinely every day and then i

00:07:11.480 was no literally and then i was like you know what does well crying online well actually didn't even

00:07:15.500 know that at the time so then i just started posting videos because i was like exactly i was

00:07:20.960 like i'm miserable let me tell everybody so then i started posting a lot of videos crying um and i

00:07:26.020 think people were just like damn this girl cries literally every day and so then it was just like

00:07:29.560 they'd check in to be like did she cry today and i literally would so just by happenstance it was 0.92

00:07:35.280 working out exactly i mean that's what being in utah will do to you when you're from hawaii so

00:07:39.780 i'll tell you what no that transition was um very difficult so naturally i was crying every day but

00:07:45.920 then um kirsten was putting me in her videos a lot which was so helpful so nepotism she was like

00:07:50.780 hopping my videos why not i loved it i was like cry a little me too i did the same thing i was

00:07:55.540 like you might as well exactly let's when i eat the whole team eats that's how i feel yes thank

00:08:00.400 you let's be team players yeah exactly um but then i was like wait this is a dancing app

00:08:07.200 let me do a little tiktok dance you do love a good dance let me i do but i wish i was like an

00:08:11.940 actual dancer and i wish i i should actually take dancing classes because i think i would really

00:08:14.940 enjoy it but you're also i think better than you're giving yourself credit for i watch many

00:08:19.280 of your dancing videos i think i can dance as well as like any filipino can naturally which is

00:08:24.700 better than the average person i would say just like singing and thank you filipinos love to sing

00:08:29.260 and they're so good and i can't sing or dance me either well i can dance kind of i have rhythm but

00:08:34.100 i can't and a lot of someone people can sing really well i can't no neither can we god gave

00:08:38.760 me funny and that's it that's all you get send her out but he like set the bar so high he was

00:08:43.200 like sorry exactly he's like you can distribute your talent yeah you don't get the singing you

00:08:47.500 don't get too much but then i was like you know what would be crazy if i combined the two things

00:08:54.500 and did them at the same time so then it was a little bit of dancing and then a little bit of

00:08:59.360 crying and then a little bit the same time yeah and now look at you yeah and now i guess i do

00:09:03.420 makeup and now yeah you're doing makeup you're shaving your head on the internet oh i am i'm

00:09:07.380 doing all of it i would love to talk about your process through that journey because you guys

00:09:11.300 you've also been very supportive i've seen all of your content about it and i thought it was really

00:09:14.940 beautiful that you did it publicly oh thank you but i'd like to know your thought process about

00:09:19.240 it like what made you want to do it online um do it all and do it online so i think just being

00:09:24.080 the line was starting to give me a lot of anxiety i thought that it was weird because in the beginning

00:09:28.920 obviously when you first start posting it feels very unnatural and it's weird yeah um but then

00:09:32.660 you get into the groove and then it's normal but then i was starting to like get out of the groove

00:09:36.120 again where i was genuinely so anxious about whatever i would post because i just felt like

00:09:40.200 i like i think i just completely lost like my own self-confidence a little bit where i just felt

00:09:45.860 really like unsure about i just didn't feel funny was the main thing because i don't really care

00:09:50.300 about what I look like well I actually do that's a lie hold on I just lied to you I definitely care

00:09:55.300 about what I look like but on top of that what hurt more was I was like oh everybody thinks that

00:09:58.660 I'm not funny and that's worse I agree with that no seriously that's far worse to me than it is

00:10:04.100 yeah and I was doing so much beauty content that I felt like people were more just interested in

00:10:07.980 that than my personality and then I was like oh my god nobody knows that I used to be funny

00:10:12.400 I used to cry and dance online guys remember that but um genuinely so I just felt really lost in

00:10:17.720 like what I wanted to do online anymore. And I was like, I just feel so concerned about what

00:10:21.580 everybody else is telling me what I should like post. Or I just feel very concerned about what

00:10:25.020 people think about what I post. And then it was just starting to like, I just stopped posting

00:10:28.560 often at all. Cause I was like, I just feel miserable every single time I post. Um, and then

00:10:32.200 I went down this rabbit hole of women shaping their heads literally one night. Like I was 1.00

00:10:36.980 literally in bed. It was like one or 2 AM. It was the middle of the night. And I saw one girl's

00:10:40.980 video of shaving her head. And literally I saw a light enter her eyes like after she shaved her 0.90

00:10:46.940 head and then this whole rabbit hole um was just so inspiring and encouraging and also like shaving 1.00

00:10:52.900 your head isn't even something new like black women have been shaving their heads yeah yeah um

00:10:56.600 but to me it was it was new because I was like I don't know anybody I think I knew one girl in

00:11:00.560 high school that shaved her head and also we were friends and she was awesome so I was like awesome

00:11:03.780 people shave their heads yeah it's true um but I think I also just needed a like hard reset for

00:11:08.740 myself because you know how sometimes I have this feeling where I'm like I feel like I can't change

00:11:13.400 because I feel too set in the way that I am where I can't change because I won't even let myself

00:11:18.320 change because I'm like this is just who I am now yeah but I was like if I do a hard reset and I

00:11:22.200 shave my head and I just try everything new then then I can do everything new so um I didn't really

00:11:28.080 think about it for that long because everybody was like I like made a few videos on TikTok being

00:11:31.140 like this is something that I'm thinking about potentially doing and then people were like hey

00:11:34.980 girl don't do it you're gonna look so ugly and I was like but that's what's so exciting about it

00:11:39.300 I was like I'm not gonna look ugly but but I won't know not at all your face is far too beautiful for

00:11:43.740 it to look ugly oh you both have very beautiful faces that is just the plain truth oh thank you

00:11:50.040 so much that's why if anyone can handle a bald head it's you oh so let me tell you you look great

00:11:54.500 with a bald head I'm getting shy thank you your hair's at the cutest length right now I love how

00:11:59.520 it looks right now oh thank you it's a little interesting where I'm like I don't know how to

00:12:03.340 style it so I'm like it looks real fucking cute thank you that's what's also so fun about having

00:12:07.940 like your head shaved and just growing it out and going through every single phase is you just 0.64

00:12:11.660 get to see like every like new bit of yourself it's weird it's like everything just feels

00:12:16.460 completely brand new because it is um but I a lot of people were like oh don't shave your head but

00:12:21.420 then a lot of people were like you should shave it but that was the beauty is I got to decide what

00:12:24.880 to do so I only thought about it for like a week before I did it like I knew I was gonna because

00:12:30.520 either it was I was gonna do it in a week or I was gonna think about it until I just decided I

00:12:34.140 talk yourself out of it exactly so i was like you know what i'm gonna think about it and then i

00:12:37.900 actually waited until my mom went on a trip because not that well not that she was against

00:12:41.560 it i think in the beginning she was not against like the fact that i don't think she was like no

00:12:45.460 you're gonna look ugly or whatever but i think she was more so like it was like the rash decision

00:12:50.260 of it she was probably exactly let's think about it a little bit longer just in case you hate it

00:12:54.400 more yeah and she's like you used to cry every day online like can you handle this so she's like

00:12:59.100 are you gonna be your mom knowing you no seriously be careful yeah she was right but um she went on

00:13:05.440 her little trip and then i decided to shave it like the day after christmas i was like

00:13:08.640 let me be bald merry christmas merry christmas new happy new year bald head yeah no seriously

00:13:14.300 um so i called her on the phone she was like oh my god you're bald but everybody was really

00:13:19.360 supportive including my grandma who we were talking about off camera yes we were just talking

00:13:24.000 about your grandma's cracking me up no she's a funny gal but when i shaved my head because she's

00:13:28.480 more like she really loves makeup yeah and she loves to look pretty she's like a glam girl she's 1.00

00:13:33.980 a glam girl for sure and it's like generational kind of glam exactly women should be dressed 0.98

00:13:38.780 nice look nice presentable all the time very much that maybe though but she really didn't 0.97

00:13:43.280 raise any of her daughters like that because her mom is not maybe that's just how she feels i think

00:13:46.840 so i think so she likes to look good yeah i think it goes every other it kind of skipped me i'm like

00:13:51.680 i'm like halfway because erica and my grandma are like exactly the same i kind of like my mom to

00:13:56.040 dress up but then sometimes i get anxious i'm like erica just tell me what to do yeah tell me

00:13:59.600 what i think part of it comes with having taste too because they both have such good taste like

00:14:04.220 maybe if i have better taste like i would desire anyway sorry i'm going off continue you're all

00:14:08.400 good you have taste for sure also of course you do i like to taste your outfit

00:14:13.180 you were saying your grandma uh was supportive of your bald head yeah she was so i saw her in

00:14:20.200 person and she was so sweet she was like oh my god beautiful i was like thank you girl um your

00:14:27.100 face that's why she's like well thank god i gave i have beautiful grandchildren oh they can handle

00:14:31.120 a bald head thank you very much to grandma and to you but i think mainly she was like she i was

00:14:35.880 like she better be supportive she's like she's already bald better be nice your grandma's like

00:14:40.160 what am i gonna do about it no exactly but yeah and how has it been since then how have you how

00:14:46.220 have you fared since shaving your head um i actually think it did exactly kind of what i

00:14:49.980 was hoping i think i care a lot less about just like what i look like just generally in everyday

00:14:56.020 life because it was so weird it was like even in my everyday life like i didn't want to go to the

00:14:58.840 grocery store without makeup i was like what is wrong with me right this is like not healthy i

00:15:02.040 see what you mean but now but the bald really i was like well we are at ground zero like we are

00:15:06.860 starting from the very beginning like infant hair like i have like from the literal i'm giving infant

00:15:11.620 no i'm giving newborn i'm giving preemie i literally was giving i'm giving preemie no

00:15:17.120 seriously so i mean it was a hard reset and then yeah i feel like i just got to kind of rework my

00:15:23.620 brain a bit i feel like it had to be that way because if i didn't just do something very

00:15:27.120 drastic i felt like i would have never uh gotten over anything that's why i think it was so

00:15:32.540 successful online because i that's why i wanted to compliment you on it and obviously you supporting

00:15:37.160 her as her sister and like being there and also while you shaved your head and everything i think

00:15:40.160 beautiful your sisterhood reminds me a lot of me and my sister which i love um but i think it's

00:15:44.640 very powerful for women to do things like that especially to be vulnerable about feelings like

00:15:49.420 like i'm feeling like i'm pulling a lot of stock about what i look like from the internet and i

00:15:53.940 want to be able to get rid of that so this is like an intensely vulnerable thing that you decided to

00:15:58.520 put online i think that's a beautiful thing and very brave and very courageous the two of you i

00:16:02.920 feel like are really hard on yourselves in a lot of ways but you are both very brave like the way

00:16:08.140 that especially with person you're when you're talking a lot about kind of how the internet has

00:16:12.980 affected your ability like you know existing online is very hard to be perceived by hundreds

00:16:17.420 of people you guys both being very vulnerable about your feelings and about what you're going

00:16:21.920 through in spite of having a platform is brave and courageous and women need to see more more

00:16:26.780 things like that more i guess like honest feelings in earnest right like you guys are both being very

00:16:32.560 very honest I think that's beautiful and powerful thank you and I think it's like yeah I'm like I'm

00:16:37.400 gonna cry hold on I'm like thank god you're recording this because I'm gonna go back and

00:16:42.960 re-watch it again yeah in case you need to re-up yeah but it's very true and I I feel I think that's

00:16:47.680 why I feel very drawn to the two of you just content wise because that's something that I'm

00:16:51.940 trying to help women with all the time is like being more authentically true to who you are but

00:16:57.320 in a way that's not formed by the opinions of others online like it's it's it and i think i've

00:17:04.100 said this before too a lot of times if people could be a lot more honest about how the internet

00:17:08.840 makes them feel uh the internet might be a more enjoyable place to exist because even saying

00:17:14.520 things like i'm i'm drawing a lot of like insecurity from this that i didn't have before

00:17:19.100 because even someone like myself uh as soon as i got this platform i got into therapy uh which i

00:17:24.940 needed intensely and I didn't realize how much I was going to need it as the longer I did it but

00:17:29.160 um one thing I talked about extensively in therapy is how like I had body neutrality

00:17:34.360 well into my 20s which is very rare so I really drew no power or worth from what I looked like

00:17:40.440 especially my body but then once I started doing this I started thinking about it which I had never

00:17:44.820 done before I'm like the internet gave me something or in essence I guess took something

00:17:49.180 away from me and that was something I was struggling with too so I've talked about how

00:17:53.180 like i think when you're more honest about the feeling and then you talk about it you can confront

00:17:57.820 it process it and most importantly let it go so even when you talk about um ed struggles i know

00:18:03.100 you've had a lot of conversations about that too stuff like that is so important to hear like

00:18:07.500 authentically and how it feels and how it affects you especially because everybody's on tiktok

00:18:12.100 everybody's watching tiktok constantly everybody's constantly following people that don't look like

00:18:16.840 them or consuming content from people who look like nothing like them so i think the two of you

00:18:22.840 existing the way you do is so beautiful and i think you guys should remember that i really

00:18:26.720 you're posting your content but i i do want to know too like what's one of the coolest things

00:18:31.680 you guys have been able to do because of this as sisters because you've done a lot of really

00:18:35.860 cool things together but what's one of the coolest things you guys would say off the top of our heads

00:18:40.660 it's always meeting rihanna oh my gosh well obviously it's meeting rihanna no like i see

00:18:46.580 that's a great one associating no it was crazy no like literally she shook my hand i was like i am

00:18:50.560 literally i can't hear or see right now yeah but i'm seeing you in so clear and it was pregnant

00:18:55.680 rihanna too it was pregnant yeah so that was like her at her ultimate womanhood yeah wow she's 0.98

00:19:00.880 creating her most beautiful yes literally while she was making life while she was making life 0.98

00:19:05.340 we were there and she was making our lives no literally life and making you're creating three

00:19:10.080 lives right now that's so amazing i think that's wonderful what about your family i feel like you

00:19:15.520 guys are very family oriented what's the coolest thing you've been able to do with family or for

00:19:18.900 family because of the internet i think just like now we can go on trips together because like we

00:19:25.460 never also being in in how about you're so far from everything yeah trips are super expensive

00:19:29.320 like they're super super expensive and um also our parents are a bit older now and so i think

00:19:33.920 they're actually getting closer to retirement age so they have more time which is nice but now we

00:19:36.940 can finally go on trips together yeah i think which has been nice and the house is ac now it

00:19:40.880 does have ac we did that we're like installing why you need that as soon as that check comes in

00:19:47.500 hey guess what air conditioning for the house putting a vent here and a vent here here no

00:19:52.660 hardwood floor yeah oh yeah and it has hardwood floor hardwood floor now perfect i'm gonna pivot

00:19:58.900 back to dancing only because it's a perfect i know you do a lot of k-pop stuff you guys love k-pop

00:20:04.060 oh you like k-pop i like k-pop but she loves k-pop she loves k-pop i am i that's why i'm like

00:20:12.880 i need to key with my girls about k-pop oh okay dramas or chinese dramas i've just started

00:20:17.740 venturing i'm trying to get into um chinese dramas please tell me what you've been getting

00:20:21.720 into i just started watching pursuit of jade oh my gosh my mom's watching pursuit of jade

00:20:25.320 me and your mom are like this tell your mom to hit me up that one that one is chinese right

00:20:31.080 yeah it's chinese okay got it yeah it's on netflix okay i gotta get into it i started watching it

00:20:35.860 truthfully i have not been as tapped into k-pop recently just i don't know why i think we've

00:20:40.280 also just been i've been a little bit more locked in yeah my like personal life and it just like

00:20:46.240 with work and stuff yeah but still love k-pop um there's oh my gosh like what do you want to talk

00:20:50.860 about well i just started i just started venturing because i randomly watched the bts documentary

00:20:57.160 oh yeah and i oh my gosh i knew nothing at all so i had no idea these men have the power of an

00:21:03.280 emperor i could not believe like how famous these men are i was like gee also how many there are of

00:21:08.940 them i was like there are five six seven eight okay seven or eight something like that i watched

00:21:14.480 that documentary so then i started listening to their music because i was like sure why not like

00:21:19.120 i mean might as well uh-huh and it it is crazy insane like the music is is all over the place

00:21:24.460 but i love it it's the performance aspect of it to me yeah the dancing and the the drip is insane

00:21:31.200 like the way they dress the way they dance is actually it's crazy the aura it's moving me i

00:21:37.220 was like hey it is working on me honestly i think more than anything like what k-pop like it's the

00:21:42.800 it's the community because everybody is so locked into it like k-pop fans like at a concert like

00:21:47.240 everybody is there like in the light stick culture of it all like everybody's there with a plan it's

00:21:53.100 super fun and i'm like i love i love a good fangirl like exactly i love fangirls i was a

00:21:58.580 fangirl i was a big jonas brother girl yes i relate to because i had i was a one direction

00:22:03.220 fangirls oh really i loved them too i was like older at the time that one direction became a

00:22:07.240 thing but i loved one direction okay i was like seamless transition totally but you were writing

00:22:11.160 fan fiction right hell yeah i wrote fan fiction about just one direction yes i was a hairy girl

00:22:17.360 personally oh okay okay yeah but i think i was just picking anyone with the longest hair

00:22:21.520 i was like i'm always gonna do it i also loved zane but yeah that's true so that's what originally

00:22:27.720 drew me into the group sorry not me going in but go in drew me into the group because i saw a

00:22:32.200 picture of Zayn and I was like but that was what's this about exactly but that was my best friend's

00:22:37.220 um favorite and so she was like well obviously I'm gonna marry him so if you pick someone else

00:22:41.000 because we can't marry the same person I was like you're right and you know I don't think you

00:22:44.480 understand like the severity of how insane she was about it like because she genuinely thought

00:22:49.060 that she was going to marry them like genuinely our dad was concerned yeah because I think what

00:22:53.200 did you say to dad one time because you were talking to dad about Liam Payne and he was like

00:22:55.760 yeah yeah whatever I was like telling I was like well dad because I know I'm gonna marry Liam and

00:22:59.260 he was like you mean you hope you marry Liam and I said no I know no girl that's not what I mean

00:23:05.200 and later he told Erica he was like I think I did something wrong with Kirsten because

00:23:08.700 she knows she's gonna marry Liam Payne and I'm like and you know he was right it's it's funny

00:23:14.360 because when I was young young I loved uh My Chemical Romance like oh oh that was our brother's

00:23:20.580 favorite yeah yeah my sister was a Gerard Way fan because she's a lesbian and that makes sense

00:23:24.860 but i was i was in love with the guitarist his name was ray toro oh crazy he was 35 when i was

00:23:31.140 10 and i with him i felt so like that's my man like i right i was so like convinced but then

00:23:37.620 when i liked the jonas brothers i was kind of like well yeah obviously he'd love me and i guess

00:23:41.120 we'll see like i was very like we'll see if i like him what if i meet him and i hate him like

00:23:45.320 that's kind of how i would talk you already had a better perspective yeah i was like i was very

00:23:49.400 like well i mean yeah obviously he's gonna like me but like what if i don't like that's the

00:23:54.840 perspective i'm trying to give other women no it should be it's like i'm always on the front foot

00:23:59.280 i was probably when i loved the jones brothers 11 12. wow because you had two more years of

00:24:05.220 perspective yeah a lot of growth i literally was very like yeah i mean it's gonna be hard for him

00:24:11.840 to not fall in love with me but i guess like we'll see no exactly like i had to always you know just

00:24:16.500 in case he looks busy yeah he looks busy and emotionally unavailable perhaps yeah i'm busy

00:24:22.020 I'm emotionally available, but is he?

00:24:23.640 Right.

00:24:24.000 You're like, I'm going to start eighth grade.

00:24:25.280 The work pile is going to, like, start finally.

00:24:26.560 Yeah.

00:24:26.940 I was like, we'll see if our schedules align.

00:24:29.440 Yeah.

00:24:30.000 And I think the Jonas Brother thing was so intense.

00:24:33.340 That's what made me write the fan fiction, obviously.

00:24:35.280 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:24:35.900 And then, obviously, when One Direction came out.

00:24:37.680 I remember when One Direction started, like, coming across my desk.

00:24:41.160 I was like, I don't have time for this.

00:24:42.940 Like, I remember thinking, like, I can't get into another group.

00:24:45.340 That's what she said about K-pop.

00:24:46.580 That's what happens to you with K-pop is I was like, I'm seeing the obsession.

00:24:49.160 And I was like, and I've been through this before.

00:24:50.540 i also felt that way about k-pop so i get it that's fair no the thing is okay so for me like

00:24:56.040 because one direction missed me it went completely over my head like i got it because she was

00:24:59.880 obsessed and i was really little but as i got older because a lot of my friends were obsessed

00:25:03.020 with one direction but i like didn't know if i even like boys like and truthfully i'm still not

00:25:07.120 sure like i gotta be so honest but like k-pop was the first time where i was like wait i find them

00:25:11.580 attractive i was like they're so beautiful okay i'm answering some questions now for myself i love

00:25:15.980 oh you know yes because they're very like they're pretty yeah they are like they're so pretty and so

00:25:21.080 i think that's what appealed to me because i wonder if they're pretty zayn malik is a beautiful

00:25:24.340 very pretty beautiful boy yeah that makes sense but well who's your favorite k-pop group then 0.86

00:25:29.040 oh because i've recently gotten into 80s oh my god because i really i really fuck with that song 0.79

00:25:34.340 bad oh is it she's so bad yeah yeah i'm like i showed my sister my sister was like this is kind 0.97

00:25:39.400 of awesome well first she said everyone in this group looks like lesbians i'm gonna have to look

00:25:42.920 them up and i'm like yeah you should like they're they're all very beautiful men i i would assume

00:25:46.880 um but the song is speaking to me no it is infinity being like fan fictioning her way

00:25:51.580 into that music video she inspires me no she's she's so pretty yeah she's great she's and she's

00:25:56.620 wonderful i was like i follow her on instagram so that's why i was like let me look into this 0.92

00:26:00.140 oh you said and then i fucked with the song no it's good they make good music we um i took them 0.77

00:26:05.340 to the uh coachella set because we saw them at coachella because i was like you see 80s because 0.86

00:26:09.280 they're gonna perform bouncy and i need to see them perform bouncy so um wait first of all who's

00:26:15.080 your um who's your bias i don't know any of their names oh that's okay you have so much time yeah

00:26:20.420 i i i'm so new i'm a new 18-y that you're no exactly and that's the beauty in k-pop is you

00:26:26.880 have all the time to get into it um i switched between san and we young okay so san's the one

00:26:32.680 with the black hair he's the one in the front that's always yeah my sister said that move

00:26:37.440 makes her feel creepy like she feels like she must be perverted when she watches them do it oh okay

00:26:42.520 you know i have to watch a few more performances i think because my mom's really into bad as well

00:26:46.540 like she's really into 80s um period i think for me honestly all roads do lead back to bts like we

00:26:53.720 just recently went to their concert because they were like the first group that i got really really

00:26:57.120 into and obsessed with um and then they you know they had their military service and then they were

00:27:01.320 doing their own thing for a bit and then i was like okay well something has to fill the void so

00:27:04.400 just dabbling everywhere um but like bts like all roads really they all lead back to them

00:27:10.500 what's your bias in bts um so i used to be a taekook bias so taehyung and jungkook but

00:27:16.680 these days i'm like i'm just so sorry like my heart is really in it with jungkook like i just

00:27:20.340 like i love taehyung as well and i love all of them but there's just something about like a

00:27:24.720 like a beautiful man with like with like some tattoos and some piercings i'm like

00:27:28.320 give me give me give me give me yeah yeah i recently started my my man really loves jjk

00:27:35.620 and i recently was like let me start watching jjk oh and so all the characters are so hot well

00:27:40.860 that's why like he was telling me he goes i really love that anime and that's one of the only ones

00:27:44.820 where they only have fan service for men so just they're slutting out their men constantly always

00:27:49.960 and i was like well now i have to get into it oh now i have to look into it jjk bias

00:27:54.940 no genuinely i'm like trying to think um not okay gojo's the one with the silver hair the spiky

00:28:02.200 hair yes yes yes okay his friend looks like my man the one that they have like the little breakup

00:28:08.820 oh yes yes yes what's i forget gito oh geto yes yeah him i'll say him because he kind of looks

00:28:15.360 like my man no oh oh yes yes the hair it's the long hair yeah yes the long hair you see i have

00:28:20.760 i have a theme going no it's a good theme i love i love long hair on men oh you know no i totally

00:28:25.800 get the vibe no the long the long hair yes sorry i'm like whoa but yeah no i hear you i also just

00:28:34.420 recently watched my very first k drama i've never in my life watched anything like that do you guys

00:28:39.180 like k dramas i do i have to stop watching them though because it sets an extremely unrealistic

00:28:43.920 like standard for me that i'm like okay whatever like it starts like it's fun for like the first

00:28:48.360 till i watch but by the eighth i'm like i'm actually starting to just feel horrible like

00:28:51.160 yeah yeah this makes me feel bad about my real life no seriously i watched um what was it called

00:28:57.280 it was called it's on hulu it was called like the crown prince or something like that oh it just 0.96

00:29:03.560 came across my my desk and i was like shit fuck it why not what enticed you honestly what's what's 0.98

00:29:09.200 really moving me towards it is i'm writing a fiction book right now because i'm writing like 0.99

00:29:13.580 a new fiction series and it's inspired by like uh polynesian like lore like legend and lore

00:29:20.700 and so that's kind of where i'm writing from but i because of that i want to watch other pieces of

00:29:25.460 media and different cultures because i what i'm writing for is like based in culture but it's not

00:29:31.200 obviously like extremely accurate to it so i want to watch different kinds of meat like movies tv

00:29:37.440 shows listen to different music uh in different languages and different cultures because i think

00:29:42.240 that they uh express love in a very different way in a very because there's no like sex and like

00:29:48.140 the korean dramas chinese dramas but there's a lot of intimacy like very close very like staring

00:29:54.640 heavy oh man they love to stare they and those k-dramas they'll have about two minutes of

00:29:59.180 staring and i'm in there too and i love it honestly they have this very like sexual

00:30:03.740 tension but there's no actual payoff until like way at the end episode eight is when they kiss

00:30:08.800 yeah that's always like the first kisses episode yeah you have to work really hard to get that

00:30:12.860 first kiss so i i really i find that inspiring in writing so i was like i'm gonna watch other

00:30:18.040 stuff and kind of sample around because american media all kind of feels the same when it comes to

00:30:21.720 like especially romance but i like to watch i want to watch things with different depictions

00:30:25.860 of romance or like love i should say like between friends like sisters brothers like oh yeah that's

00:30:32.220 why with jjk i know they have a lot of like brother love like very intense brother love so i was like

00:30:37.740 i'm gonna watch that too and get inspired why not but since we're on the subject um both of you

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00:31:03.860 delivery oh you know we're talking about romance oh i mean i thought i paused because i was waiting

00:31:11.380 for her to answer but you are like i'm so obviously single it's actually painful i'm like i'm a little

00:31:16.160 too publicly single okay so okay erica yes dream man dream partner what do they what do they look

00:31:24.580 sound and feel like they look like jungkook we know that okay yeah so it starts there yeah so

00:31:29.900 what do they feel like what does it feel like to you um oh whoa I don't know um okay okay well

00:31:38.580 first of all uh a ground zero a bare minimum obviously they have to be super extremely nice

00:31:43.560 to me the nicest person ever because I'm so sensitive like they genuinely have to be the

00:31:47.180 most understanding and empathetic person ever so let's start there um aside from you know

00:31:52.000 generally having kindness and empathy um I would I really like funny yeah I like funny I don't

00:31:58.800 like funnier than me but i do like like we can we can be about even you know and if they are

00:32:04.320 funnier than me they just can't be annoying about it like i don't want to hear about how funny you

00:32:07.460 are i feel that yeah like don't tell me that you're so funny that's that's real i've told i've

00:32:11.140 told my man before i'm like between the two of us who do you think's funnier and then he was like

00:32:14.700 should always be yeah and he was like i mean probably i would i would say you and i was like

00:32:19.820 you're right that's the right one and then he was like i don't think i'm not funny i just think

00:32:24.040 you're more funny to more people oh and wow that's like almost like a pr trained answer

00:32:28.880 yeah you hit every note i taught him that but he didn't send it on his own that's just but that's

00:32:34.520 exactly my point that's why i'm like so i get what you mean like i need someone who's funny

00:32:38.160 exactly i should think he's funny i shouldn't be hearing about how funny he is from him but i'm

00:32:42.420 like from him or others yeah exactly no i should just know that exactly um but i really do like

00:32:47.460 funny i also feel like i'm pretty introverted so i know a lot of people are like you need an

00:32:51.500 extrovert and i'm like i think i don't i'm like because i really oh i hate when a lot of people

00:32:55.520 like to go out like in in like hawaii a lot of people like to like go out to the club and they

00:32:59.980 like to they like to hit the chinatown club yeah my ties yeah my ties yeah girl i've been in my

00:33:07.640 ties you can all right pizza moanis oh yeah that's right they close down moanis is no longer

00:33:12.640 there so i guess my ties is a new place but um but yeah i'm just like i'd rather kind of stay

00:33:17.580 like let's stay in and let's watch some jjk and get that male fan service like like that

00:33:21.620 right yeah you're trying to do that with me or what no exactly i see what you mean but i do like

00:33:26.680 kind of also i this is interesting well okay k-pop is interesting because it is very like i'd like

00:33:33.240 to think that's their personality but obviously it's also very curated as well like because i'm

00:33:37.080 like we don't know them personally you know but um they always make them act a little bit cute

00:33:41.440 which i love because i love when boys are cute yeah i like when they're i don't like hot no no

00:33:47.160 like well it was just crazy because um jungkook is like the hottest man ever but but it's the

00:33:50.860 duality of it all i see what you mean yeah like cute is a good thing like i should find you cute

00:33:55.640 too uh no exactly yeah in addition to and i think in real life i gravitate to just more like warm

00:34:01.760 personality like warm cute because like hot like persona i feel sick i'm like i need you to like

00:34:09.040 get away from me it's kind of like when men um i i always say i i find it cringe and weird when

00:34:14.040 men act sexy like I see what you mean no yeah it makes me it gives me an ick too a very deep

00:34:20.240 really but I feel like your man is pretty stereotypically that's a good point like hot

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00:34:28.040 everything icks me I'm like actually every quality I want in a man is actually a woman

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00:35:37.800 the thing with my man is like he just is hot but he doesn't like act like it yeah he just is he

00:35:44.680 happens to be like he's he's very quiet and very like reserved i was just telling this to my friend

00:35:50.320 the other day because she didn't know this about him but he like loves animals and when i say like

00:35:54.480 loves i mean like for real loves like studies them and like wanted to be a veterinarian well

00:35:59.300 he wanted to be a paleontologist for a long time because he loves dinosaurs but he like loves bugs

00:36:04.100 and he loves um sea creatures oh wow so it's like there are things about him that when you look at

00:36:09.940 him like you would never when you look at my man you would never think he loves jjk it's the duality

00:36:14.500 you see what i mean like so that's why like the presentation of hot is fine with me got it it's

00:36:19.600 like acting like you know that it's like that comment when people like i hate when a man knows

00:36:23.620 i hate when he knows no as far as like i think it's better if they just acknowledge like they

00:36:27.900 know that they're a good looking person but it's not really a big part of their personality okay

00:36:31.880 yeah you know what i mean that's literally like body neutrality but for men like you should just

00:36:36.220 know that you're like that shouldn't be your thing hot neutrality yeah i'm hot i don't i don't

00:36:40.980 i don't think too much about it i don't hate it i exist in it but it's just yeah but it's just

00:36:45.420 kind of like i know yeah like it's like if he knows that's fine that's all that they should

00:36:50.780 be doing yeah it's just acknowledging and nothing else yeah yeah it's like acting a certain way i

00:36:57.120 think so i get what you mean because that's why i find um like when i went to the male strip club

00:37:01.520 for the first time and it was a horrifying haunted house experience um that was horrifying to me

00:37:06.760 because i don't like when men act sexy like i don't enjoy that was it a magic show was it magic

00:37:13.000 it wasn't magic mike oh okay i couldn't do that like with with the whole of bringing on stage

00:37:17.780 thing i already had that experience and it was horrifying oh my god you had that experience at

00:37:21.680 magic i tried to go to magic mike i i walked out after 10 minutes i was like it got too real it's

00:37:28.480 like i thought it was gonna be funny because it's like oh like funny we're like male strippers and

00:37:32.180 then i got there and i was like oh my god you said it's too real yeah then they're stripping

00:37:35.540 oh my god they're like gonna be in my face yeah i'm genuinely so scared i can't do it

00:37:39.740 yeah i'm out i'm out i'm out we all left there's three of us all left

00:37:43.140 what is the group with the the masks uh jabberwockies

00:37:48.000 it's dead that's honestly we were when i was just in vegas we were joking about we should

00:37:55.500 go see the jab walkies that's funny too because my man feels the same way about like he he's like

00:38:11.340 afraid to go to like the strip club and stuff it makes him uncomfortable it's just in your face

00:38:15.360 yeah like when he was in college um he was he went to unlv for a little bit and this guy was like

00:38:20.960 okay get ready we're gonna go to the strip club then we're gonna go to another club and we're

00:38:25.340 gonna go to a party and then my man said he was like i can't i left my id at home and then they're

00:38:30.300 like you just got here you don't have your id he's like no and he was like i just didn't want to go

00:38:35.480 and he was like but i didn't want to say like i don't want to go so i like in like he seemed

00:38:40.140 fired up so i didn't want to be mean yeah he's like but i was like i can't and he was like because 0.95

00:38:44.660 i just i don't want to and i was like that's my fucking man no i don't really i love that it's a 0.89

00:38:50.360 it's a beautiful thing yeah okay i feel like for my dream man i used to like really quiet guys 0.93

00:38:55.560 yeah because i'm so loud actually but then i feel like i'm randomly shy like if you notice me on

00:38:59.500 this couch i'm not talking much i don't know what happens it's like i don't know what it is it's

00:39:03.220 like unless i'm directly talked to i just i just be saying nothing i think too that's also very

00:39:08.080 common for people even like actors and actresses that i've met before like some of them are really

00:39:13.780 really shy like they they just really they feel more themselves when they're playing a character

00:39:18.420 like they that they don't feel shy about but it's like when they're sitting and like being themselves

00:39:22.960 that makes them feel a little bit shy yeah which is very strange yeah you would you would think

00:39:27.780 it's the opposite but it's not always the case exactly actually side spiel before i go into my

00:39:31.460 dream man literally one time i so i was going to therapy when i was in college right yeah and then

00:39:35.900 i was going to therapy and then i was going to group therapy because that's actually something

00:39:39.320 that you do in ed therapies you have like a individual therapist and like a group therapy

00:39:42.540 anyway it was the same therapist for both and then she was telling me in individual therapy

00:39:47.120 she was like you never talk in therapy she was like like in group therapy she was like i think

00:39:52.500 you like have like some very like interesting things to say and like just like input yourself

00:39:56.480 i agree and i literally told her i was like you have to like ask me a question directly

00:40:00.100 i was like because i'm not just gonna start talking i was like if you target me i'll say

00:40:03.420 something she's like okay fine you gotta corner me yeah yeah exactly so so i she targets me in the

00:40:09.180 in the in the group therapy and then i start talking and then afterwards in the next therapy 0.57

00:40:13.160 But she was like, Kirsten, who was that out there?

00:40:15.960 She was like, you were making everyone laugh.

00:40:18.360 She's like, did you know you're that funny?

00:40:19.940 I was like, I did.

00:40:21.500 Yeah.

00:40:22.520 I was like, I told you.

00:40:23.600 You just got a real stoic vibe.

00:40:25.100 Yeah.

00:40:25.660 I don't even know.

00:40:26.740 I'm just shy.

00:40:27.980 I'm genuinely just shy.

00:40:29.500 Between the two of you, who would you say is more shy?

00:40:31.960 Probably Eric.

00:40:33.560 But Eric is better in that, like.

00:40:36.760 If it's, like, new people, she's a lot better at being extroverted in, like, a new group setting.

00:40:40.660 Yeah.

00:40:40.860 But I think once I'm, like, comfortable, and I'm, like, very comfortable with you.

00:40:43.420 You are so inviting and comfortable to be around.

00:40:45.500 Erica's, like, a really good on-camera personality.

00:40:47.840 Yeah.

00:40:48.340 Like, really good.

00:40:49.260 I think you both are.

00:40:50.360 I was going to say.

00:40:50.840 You're doing great, too.

00:40:51.800 Oh, thank you.

00:40:52.360 Yeah.

00:40:52.700 No, but I feel like she, I don't know.

00:40:54.860 I'm not PR trained.

00:40:56.180 I don't think either of us are.

00:40:58.140 I'm not PR trained.

00:40:58.900 I think we all are PR trained.

00:41:00.540 No, no, seriously.

00:41:02.020 Yeah.

00:41:03.160 Yeah, but I would say, like, overall, she can hang out with more people in a group setting,

00:41:07.680 and i just feel like i stick to like two people i know and then yeah we and we chop it up yeah

00:41:12.500 sort of yeah but we're both very shy in like a classroom environment like i wouldn't talk we

00:41:16.460 don't talk no unless directly spoken to yeah i see i was just curious because your older younger

00:41:21.540 sister dynamic like my sister is older obviously but she was the shy one and i wasn't oh so i may

00:41:27.380 i was very like come on days let's go like i was very like involving her in everything i was like

00:41:32.220 taking her to everything i was like no she's gonna play too she's gonna play with us oh okay

00:41:36.300 because i was bossy from the jump so i was very like i was very bossy i was very opinionated i

00:41:41.120 was very like this is what's gonna happen next and you're gonna involve my sister that's nice

00:41:45.160 did you guys grow up like that too um actually her and my brother they're so good they're like

00:41:49.980 really great older siblings to have because genuinely they made sure i was included in

00:41:52.900 everything even though we have a huge age gap like me my brother eight years apart

00:41:55.700 but my younger brother's nine years younger than me oh yeah we have like the inverse of your guys's

00:42:00.400 family yeah it's literally just flipped yeah it's the other way yeah but like i remember when i was

00:42:04.340 in high school like i had summer school and they would they're they're just doing summer by

00:42:08.280 themselves but they were like trying to go hiking and my mom was like i should just go like you or

00:42:11.980 you guys can go and they're like no we have to wait till she finishes summer school so she can

00:42:14.740 go with us but they just include me in everything sort of but what she can't remember though is

00:42:19.360 like most of what i would get in trouble for when i was younger was not including her oh so big age

00:42:24.240 gap that's like five years what big sister yeah i was like 10 she was like five i was like no yeah

00:42:28.820 i was genuinely gonna ruin the vibe so she's literally baby she can't do anything she's baby

00:42:33.500 yeah she always talks about that she's like you were so boring for so long for so and she was so 1.00

00:42:39.200 just a lump couldn't do anything i did you're a hurry up grow up i want to have a sister

00:42:43.500 no exactly i remember like when i was like five i wanted a sister and then i got one

00:42:48.000 and then i was like dang it well i guess i can't wait until she's five yeah and then i was 10 and

00:42:52.140 i was like dang it you're like now i can't wait until she's 10 i'm 15 i'm like hurry up when will

00:42:56.600 she ever be 15 yeah but it finally happened it was actually around the time i think by the time

00:43:01.260 she was like 16 i was like wait it's happening yeah i was gonna ask when around the time when

00:43:06.500 was the time or age that you guys started getting closer like for real uh oh when our brother left

00:43:11.360 for college i think because then we're like okay i guess like you're here and that's all we have i

00:43:14.960 guess so yeah i was like oh we don't really talk but no we would talk but we would just fight all

00:43:20.640 the time we still fight all the time but like back then we would like fight all the time but um our

00:43:24.700 brother left for college and then we just got really close and then we went to college together

00:43:27.500 so then at byu right yeah my my dad's whole side of the family is mormon like my dad grew up mormon

00:43:34.360 oh i was gonna ask about that yeah my dad's whole side of the family grew up mormon my dad grew up

00:43:38.940 my dad was a jack mormon for a long time and and now he's no longer mormon but he uh like i've been

00:43:45.520 to utah many many many times like oh like i have a ton of family in saint george oh yeah the actual

00:43:52.500 like uh spawn of satan that i went to prom with uh was from saint george utah yeah and that's why

00:43:59.480 he was he was a big freak weirdo but like but i do know that it's not indicative of all mormons

00:44:05.820 a lot of someone people are mormons so i grew up with a lot of mormons too um so i get i know you

00:44:11.560 guys have a lot of friends who are mormon too so i know you guys talk about how you're like yeah 0.97

00:44:15.100 that shit sucks but like i have friends who are awesome yeah that's like the very nuanced part 0.99

00:44:21.080 of talking about it online 1.00

00:44:22.040 is because like

00:44:23.480 it's

00:44:24.020 we have so many family

00:44:25.140 and friends

00:44:25.420 who are still Mormon

00:44:26.000 who like

00:44:26.460 are really great people

00:44:28.380 and they don't even believe

00:44:29.300 of the negative sides

00:44:30.260 of the church

00:44:30.620 but then also

00:44:31.720 there are like

00:44:32.740 a lot of negative

00:44:33.640 sides of the church

00:44:34.940 yeah

00:44:35.600 so I get it

00:44:36.560 and a lot of Polynesian people

00:44:38.220 are Mormon

00:44:38.660 so that makes sense 1.00

00:44:39.940 because they colonize

00:44:40.660 like all of Polynesia

00:44:41.720 and then you see that circle

00:44:43.460 like even at BYU

00:44:44.460 like you see

00:44:45.080 just the vibes

00:44:45.920 and you're like

00:44:46.240 this is why it is

00:44:47.000 the way that it is

00:44:47.620 like it's just so

00:44:48.220 and yeah

00:44:48.680 it's just like

00:44:49.300 it's just constantly

00:44:50.160 pushed into their brains

00:44:50.840 like especially being in St. George like that's probably all he knew yeah no he was big freak 1.00

00:44:56.060 weirdo he was one of those where I was like yeah you're awful and I hate you and I send my ire 0.95

00:45:00.900 towards him every time I have negative energy I put it towards that guy you always need that one 0.96

00:45:06.020 guy it's gotta go somewhere we need that one person I also uh like kind of a hard transition

00:45:13.840 transition but not um I wrote on one of Erica's videos that's why we were talking about dream man

00:45:18.820 for a second oh yes oh my god because you were talking about what you were struggling with with

00:45:22.480 dating and i was like we got to get on the couch and talk about this while we're here yeah well

00:45:26.860 now we're on the couch and kirsten kirsten dm'd me and was like i know i'm like low-key inviting

00:45:31.200 myself but can i come too it's like yes of course you can this is where she takes the initiative

00:45:36.700 that's honestly why i laughed when i read your dm because i was like you saw my comment on erica's

00:45:44.740 and you came you're so me i was like it's the same way with me and my sister i was like oh so

00:45:48.360 she invited erica so basically me so it's fine i was like wait and let me sit right next to her

00:45:53.540 and i'm happy you did honestly that's such a that's why i was like yes of course both of you

00:45:59.800 can come thank you no because literally nothing would get done if she wasn't no it's it's nepotism

00:46:04.320 nepotism got me there you go okay so i want to talk before we get into fun facts i do want to

00:46:10.640 talk about the video that you had posted that i commented on oh yes because you were talking we

00:46:14.260 were talking about you were talking about dating oh yes and your struggle with dating and it's just

00:46:19.120 and it's getting close to people i think is what the genesis of it was kind of opening up a little

00:46:24.080 bit yeah i feel like loki i'm like maybe i like shouldn't be doing this online i'm like i'm a

00:46:28.320 little too publicly embarrassingly single i'm and it's not embarrassing though remember i told you

00:46:33.160 remember and that's well that's why i'm telling you what you're talking about i think is a more

00:46:36.820 common feeling than you would think definitely so like it's powerful to see other people talk

00:46:41.380 about it thank you especially other women thank you I needed to hear that yeah because I'm always

00:46:45.700 like oh my god I ruined my life like I ruined my own chances at ever getting a boyfriend because

00:46:48.380 they're gonna look my videos and be like this girl's crazy no I don't think so I think well

00:46:52.920 that you can never say the wrong thing to the right person that's what I thank you she always

00:46:56.560 says that actually yeah it's true it's very true I feel like and you're I I kind of moved that way

00:47:02.300 in my sisterhood too with my sister because my sister was with someone for a very long time and

00:47:07.220 then was single for the first time in like forever um so i talked with her a lot about

00:47:12.360 dating all my friends i talked to them about dating and stuff so it's very it's a more common

00:47:16.700 feeling than you would think i'm like please therapize me tell me what caught your your ear

00:47:20.020 when you watch that video like well i think it's um i think it's the fact that you were talking a

00:47:24.740 lot about your own fears with opening up like your own fears with like wanting to connect which is a

00:47:31.180 very common thing i get asked about a lot yeah um which is like how do i date in a way that's

00:47:36.640 like safe right that makes me feel safe like no matter what happens but i've told people a lot

00:47:42.200 like unfortunately but maybe fortunately love doesn't come without vulnerability you can't

00:47:46.780 have one without the other so it's it's really horrifying and scary but the most courageous

00:47:51.420 thing you can do is continue to pursue love even after you've been wronged like after you've been

00:47:57.220 uh like pushed aside or forgotten about in whatever way you feel I think it's like the

00:48:03.360 most courageous thing to do is to keep going and to keep trying and I've said this metaphor before

00:48:08.040 because I saw it somewhere once and it really stuck with me but it's like when a bird lands

00:48:12.340 on a branch it doesn't worry if the branch is strong enough to hold it it knows that even if

00:48:16.740 it does break it can fly away so that's what you have to they can't fly away so that's how you that

00:48:22.560 right so you have to trust and believe that you're strong enough to fly not trust that they're

00:48:27.020 strong enough to hold you because the strong the the right person is always going to be strong

00:48:31.020 enough to hold you uh-huh so you the two of you both i think talk about this a lot which is like

00:48:35.300 feeling like you're a lot like whether it's your emotions your humor like your personality which

00:48:40.300 is me too like that's why like my book's called loud obviously but it's literally because it's

00:48:44.680 associated with me like i'm i am a lot that is true like i i am a lot i'm what you would call

00:48:50.260 i think a high risk high reward kind of girl right so it's like when it when it is hard to

00:48:55.300 be with me in the sense that it requires more than I think men are willing to give sometimes

00:49:01.360 but it's worth it like so it's like am I too much or are they just not strong enough to hold me

00:49:06.520 that's a great point right so it's like it's I think you're always the way you approach dating

00:49:11.400 should be more on the front foot which is like kind of like what I was joking about with Nick

00:49:16.000 Jonas right which is like even at 11 years old I was like I mean obviously he's gonna love me

00:49:20.740 that's a no-brainer um but whether and i think that's how you should approach dating which is

00:49:25.160 like it's also a litmus litmus test for them you don't even know if you're gonna like them 0.98

00:49:29.300 but women almost always are like what if they don't like me what if they think what if they

00:49:33.700 watch my videos and they think i'm weird or crazy yeah and it's like honestly i think if they watched

00:49:39.320 your videos they would see one very specific side of you but getting to know you in person is a very

00:49:43.480 different experience and honestly i think the right man would be so drawn to you they wouldn't

00:49:47.740 give a fuck that's why i said you can never say the wrong thing to the right person so like the 0.99

00:49:52.040 most insane crazy things i've ever said like my man's like and that's my fucking wife 0.99

00:49:57.200 that's my wife that's my wife so i i'm i'm very hopeful for you i thank you i feel really like 0.98

00:50:05.860 someone's gotta be for you and and for you and your journey that is not disclosed i'm also happy

00:50:11.720 for you yeah no i don't know yeah you're just kind of figuring it out i think you both are

00:50:16.540 but i think it's beautiful i do want to know too what's like a dream of yours outside of

00:50:21.540 relationships what's a dream of yours with this platform with what you guys are doing how you

00:50:25.600 guys are moving do you have any dreams this is the place you manifested oh i feel like i mean

00:50:30.600 we kind of touched on this earlier but i feel like especially like with my journey going and

00:50:35.480 getting treatment for my eating disorder and then coming back online i feel like that is something

00:50:39.740 that i definitely want to share more online yeah just because i feel like a lot of people aren't

00:50:43.640 talking about it and it's kind of like what you're saying a lot of women are shrinking their literal

00:50:47.080 bodies to get into the mold of what the world wants them to see and that makes me genuinely

00:50:52.120 so sad same and i just want to be able to advocate for people who are going through that but then also

00:50:58.220 at the same time it's kind of something that i'm going through right now and so it's like kind of

00:51:02.720 hard sometimes because it's like of course i want to talk about how my body has changed online but

00:51:07.560 then that also requires me to talk about how my body has changed online i see what you mean yeah

00:51:11.340 it's like a double exactly because in some ways like the best thing for me is to just absolutely

00:51:15.820 say nothing about it which is why i haven't touched on it a whole lot of my content but

00:51:19.560 then also at the same time i feel like it's so important to bring that to light and so i think

00:51:23.300 it's kind of like that's the battle that i'm currently trying to fight is like i'm sure you

00:51:27.140 could strike a balance i think you've been doing a great job thank you doing what feels safe but

00:51:31.020 not being too too much like too i would say forthcoming with it yeah that way any tips on

00:51:36.820 that because i feel like you have like a good balance of like your own boundaries with yourself

00:51:40.280 and also what you're going to post online and with fans you guys watch me hitting fans a few

00:51:44.240 times when they're being mean or weird to me um i would say the mentality that you have i think is

00:51:49.780 the right way to approach it which is like when it moves me enough that i feel like i can speak

00:51:54.320 on it in a safe manner like with guardrails around it um then i will and if i don't feel

00:52:00.560 like it's a safe environment for me to do so then i'm not going to and i think forgiving yourself 0.99

00:52:05.760 either way is a really key part of it because sometimes when you do it you're like fuck I 0.77

00:52:10.800 probably shouldn't have done that like I probably oh I regret doing that but there's always I think

00:52:15.240 you know there's always a risk either way whether you decide to share or not but I would just say

00:52:20.540 to share what feels most comfortable to you and I think that's a beautiful thing I think also too

00:52:25.020 you've talked a lot about how like online how you've shared a lot and then now you're like okay

00:52:29.280 maybe I'll just share what I feel comfortable with yeah I also think that's a very smart way

00:52:33.740 to do content because sometimes when you i think in the beginning it feels awesome and you're like

00:52:38.280 oh my gosh people are loving me and they're loving this and this is awesome and i want to be able to 0.96

00:52:42.380 share and then one awful thing happens and you're like i never want to share anything ever fucking 0.91

00:52:49.620 again i never want to get back on you yeah you're like oh my god i'm never gonna let you in ever 0.98

00:52:54.420 again no and then you feel like what you were saying earlier right before you shaved your head

00:52:58.280 which is like i feel like i it's too much now like it's like i can't share anything without

00:53:03.540 feeling so afraid and feeling like knives are all around me that's also why i had to take my break

00:53:09.080 too like a couple years ago because it just got to a point and i'm not even really that forthcoming

00:53:13.720 about anything personal but like it just got to a point where i was like you guys i never let anyone

00:53:19.680 dictate how i feel about myself and now it's starting to like really get in there that's

00:53:24.840 what happened to me i've never in my life right i've never felt that way in my life and now you

00:53:29.620 are not taking that from me that's literally what i was thinking i was like i need to step away

00:53:33.380 because this is not good for me it's good that you recognize that though right so many people

00:53:37.080 don't yeah they know like seriously get lost in the sauce right and then you start you either

00:53:41.940 turn evil or you go insane publicly yeah and you guys can probably relate to this too but like

00:53:47.380 since i've started doing this i've told my therapist many times i'm like i can relate now

00:53:52.520 to things like when i would see women like in early like tabloids like celebrities when just 0.99

00:53:57.860 tabloids were a thing when women would be like they would go insane and they would do crazy

00:54:02.200 things in public to paparazzi or whatever i'm like i get it now because it's impossible to exist

00:54:08.360 online as a woman it is a non-white woman it's so hard like everyone it they it's you're just

00:54:14.000 being punished constantly seriously and it's like i chose to do this and i'm i don't know if you guys

00:54:19.040 have this feeling too but sometimes i would have this feeling where i'm like i chose to do this

00:54:22.860 so this kind of feels like it's my fault like it's like i really don't have any room to be upset

00:54:27.520 because i chose to do this and like uh this is kind of like my thing now and then it would feel

00:54:33.280 kind of like well now it feels ungrateful like it's exactly that i was gonna say ungrateful

00:54:37.820 part of like my depression and anxiety right is i was like oh my gosh like i'm freaking out

00:54:41.920 because i got everything i wanted yes and now i'm quote-unquote miserable exactly and i was like i

00:54:47.720 feel guilty for being depressed right i feel yeah and being upset at the same time so grateful

00:54:53.400 right like i can't but i really mean it i am grateful like when i start to spiral i'm like

00:54:58.800 stop which makes the spiral worse yeah right because it's like you yeah it's the guilt and

00:55:03.200 i feel like the shame too yeah it's just like any mental illness the guilt and shame will always get

00:55:06.980 you yeah and so the guilt and shame of feeling guilty for something so awesome and i even told

00:55:12.120 my i said this to the rock actually when i was talking to him oh yeah because he believe it or

00:55:17.040 not asked me for advice on how to deal with oh yeah you know what though yeah he was like how

00:55:22.360 do you deal with that like he asked me like because I just feel like the internet is so

00:55:26.320 uh quick to turn now like they're they're very quick to react they're very quick to get angry

00:55:30.980 and he was like asking me how I deal with it but I told him I was like well control I have to learn

00:55:36.320 how to let go like there's only so much I can do if someone's made up their mind they've made up

00:55:40.480 their mind that kind of thing I have to work on that and I was like but something my therapist

00:55:44.460 told me too was that she said because I had told her I just feel like I should be used to it by now

00:55:49.200 i feel like and you're literally shaving my head because of that i was like i was supposed to get

00:55:53.740 better at this and it's worse now yeah i'm like i'm somehow worse i gotta be bald yeah i have

00:55:58.580 say that they get used to it which i'm yeah and i think though i also am a naturally sensitive

00:56:03.060 person yeah me too you too yeah me too i'm like it just won't go away yeah and i'm like and i was

00:56:08.660 telling my therapist i feel so angry because i feel like i should be used to it by now yeah and

00:56:13.280 i'm not it feels like it gets worse with time which i don't understand i don't i don't get why

00:56:17.520 that happens and then she told me well because it's like people saying awful things or things

00:56:22.920 that are not true to you they're saying about you so naturally that's going to make you feel

00:56:27.060 terrible yeah because you're not a bad person like so she would say like that's all be actually

00:56:31.000 proof that you're not a bad person because it bothers you but she said um honestly this sounds

00:56:35.880 counterproductive but I hope you never get to the point where it doesn't bother you because that

00:56:40.460 would be a whole different issue entirely so she was like it should bother you because it's not

00:56:45.240 true and it's mean yeah and it's uh not indicative of who you are that's not who you believe yourself

00:56:50.320 to be um so it should bother you i like that makes sense yeah i'm like who's your therapist

00:56:55.100 she's online i'll give you a record perfect i gotta hop back in okay this is a random tip that

00:57:02.420 actually helped me i would love it it was like you can read it once just don't read it twice

00:57:06.660 because that's a great idea yes that's a great mentality actually and i've noticed that because

00:57:10.620 the first time i read it i'm like you're so stupid yeah and then once i go back on the video and i'm 0.82

00:57:14.620 check i'm like oh my god it has so many likes and then you read it again and you're upset 0.99

00:57:17.840 that's actually so real read it again i'm like and it's just like reopening the wound again and 0.99

00:57:21.900 again and again yeah because your first reaction is the right one yes you're stupid and this isn't 0.95

00:57:26.400 true yeah exactly but then when you go back you're like but what if it is true yeah or you're reading 0.99

00:57:30.520 it and you're like well everyone's liking it so what does that mean sometimes i feel like i watch

00:57:34.640 videos that aren't funny and then the third time i watch it i'm like this is the funniest video i've

00:57:37.640 seen but then i always go back to it i'm like this was not that funny but it's by the third video

00:57:40.980 i've seen it i'm like this is so your first reaction the first reaction is the right one

00:57:44.620 that's the correct one so i'll be looking back and i'm like why did i like this

00:57:48.300 okay so that i just want to uh really quick to taper us off right there i i think that's

00:57:55.480 another reason why i feel real connected to y'all in terms of how you post because i feel

00:57:59.620 uh the same way i feel like i can tell how you guys are feeling towards the internet too

00:58:04.020 in a way that's like i really really do love the internet because i do like it's true i love it

00:58:09.080 It's given me everything I have today.

00:58:10.840 I feel grateful for it.

00:58:12.260 And at the same time, I hate it.

00:58:15.520 And I want to call it.

00:58:16.600 I like the people who like me.

00:58:17.940 Yeah.

00:58:19.100 I like everybody that supports me. 0.99

00:58:20.200 People don't like me, I'm like, damn it. 0.95

00:58:21.980 And the people who don't like me for reasons 0.99

00:58:23.700 that are insane and crazy, not a fan.

00:58:26.120 Yeah, and I also don't like when I'm trying to share something

00:58:28.420 that I think will help a lot of people.

00:58:30.060 And then people give the counter argument of that.

00:58:32.060 It's mainly that, yeah.

00:58:33.660 They just see me.

00:58:34.360 It's like the, what do they call it?

00:58:37.100 Bean soup, bean soup.

00:58:38.560 Yeah, I feel like a lot of the times it's like I feel like purposefully misunderstood.

00:58:42.340 I'm like, but you've said that you like my content and you've been watching it.

00:58:45.000 So I feel like you would know my character enough to know that I wouldn't ever want to do something like horrible.

00:58:49.360 Yes.

00:58:49.680 But then it's so then that's why this switch just is very confusing because it's people in real life don't do that.

00:58:54.160 So then it's like, you know what I mean?

00:58:56.060 Like your friends don't.

00:58:57.100 They shouldn't.

00:58:58.100 That's exactly what I've said to my sister.

00:59:00.320 Like literally last week I was telling her that that's how I feel about some of the Internet's reactions to things where I'm like,

00:59:05.760 you either never leave your house and have no real life friends or you're just doing this to

00:59:11.120 to rage bait me because it's got to be the latter i was like i was like real people in real life

00:59:16.060 don't act this way like yeah at all like most people can hold space for like conversation and 0.99

00:59:22.160 discourse about random things like this is the dumbest fucking shit in the universe but the 1.00

00:59:26.560 summer i turned pretty that show and my commentary about it like my bullshit ass commentary about 1.00

00:59:32.700 is haunting me bitch like oh did something girl i said i was team jeremiah like before season three 0.98

00:59:39.000 mind you i swear to god if you guys bring it to youtube and be mad all over again um i said it 0.98

00:59:43.620 before season three once season three came out he turns into a literal demon from hell in the show

00:59:48.440 and everyone was like i just feel like drew just like undid everything she's ever done because i

00:59:54.480 said oh no because you're and it was something years before that yeah they don't have the

00:59:58.520 perspective of the and i was like well it's okay because these are two fake white boys and like

01:00:02.120 who cares yeah exactly and like who cares that part yeah and she's dating brothers they're

01:00:06.580 when you posted it right yeah exactly and also like who cares i've learned that though discourse

01:00:12.120 with tv shows gets crazy because even love island is over and you're like the whole thing you never

01:00:16.480 know what's gonna happen yeah exactly i have to be able to predict i have to be able to predict

01:00:20.840 all of the endings always and how everybody's feeling exactly exactly which is anxiety right

01:00:26.460 and i also feel like maybe that's kind of the whole fun of like a love triangle show is like

01:00:32.120 You pick your favorite, and then you get to be like, oh, you're Team Jacob?

01:00:35.680 That's funny.

01:00:36.420 I'm Team Edward.

01:00:37.720 I was like, these people would never have survived when Twilight came out.

01:00:40.400 If TikTok was around when Twilight came out, oh, no.

01:00:43.040 That would have been awful.

01:00:44.140 Were you Team Jacob?

01:00:45.200 I was Team Jacob.

01:00:46.020 Me, too. 0.99

01:00:46.480 Just because Team, I thought he was Polynesian at first, and then I was like, he looks like

01:00:50.060 he's from Hawaii.

01:00:50.640 You know what's funny?

01:00:51.100 Me, too.

01:00:51.480 I've joked before. 1.00

01:00:52.400 I'm like, if there's a brown guy, I'm picking him. 0.99

01:00:54.580 I was Team Brown all the time, and they were indigenous, too, so I was like, yeah, period.

01:00:58.520 Turns out Taylor Lautner is a white guy.

01:01:00.640 Yeah.

01:01:00.800 We didn't know that.

01:01:01.380 Or he has, like, distant indigenous suits, is it?

01:01:04.660 I don't know. 0.76

01:01:05.280 You know who's really good looking is he plays one of the wolves,

01:01:10.060 but he has really long hair.

01:01:11.640 Oh, yeah.

01:01:12.380 He's so handsome.

01:01:13.460 Yeah, that's tea.

01:01:14.700 I love long hair on a man, especially on a brown one.

01:01:17.620 Yeah, I know.

01:01:18.080 Exactly.

01:01:19.020 Because it's like the culture.

01:01:20.380 Yeah.

01:01:20.600 It's like I feel it.

01:01:21.760 And you all get it because you live in Hawaii.

01:01:24.120 No, I can feel the mono.

01:01:25.580 It's in the hair.

01:01:25.880 You can feel the mono.

01:01:26.880 It's in the mono.

01:01:28.460 Okay, to pivot, I have some fun facts about y'all.

01:01:30.740 Okay.

01:01:30.960 are you ready well you can tell me if they're fun oh okay okay so uh this first one's about

01:01:35.740 kirsten in high school kirsten was so obsessed with cashews that you became allergic to them

01:01:40.240 yes that's actually related oh that's just oh that's just classic ed material really yeah

01:01:48.140 because basically it's like um say hello to your new favorite drinks introducing new mccafe

01:01:57.120 refreshers icy cool undeniably refreshing and available in three flavors strawberry watermelon

01:02:03.720 mango pineapple and blackberry passion fruit only at mcdonald's

01:02:08.220 let me think about it what was happening i think i was just like restricting my diet a lot

01:02:16.300 and i think cashew felt like a safe food because that's what happens when you have an ed sorry yeah

01:02:20.100 bet you didn't expect this but it's important that they know yeah it's important yeah so

01:02:26.760 that's crazy how did you find that on the side now that's amanda wow that's our producer amanda

01:02:31.680 like that's deep oh yeah deep in the lore deep cut um anyhow so that's actually also why i'm

01:02:37.380 good at cutting watermelon like for my fruit videos really it's because i cut so many watermelons

01:02:41.240 well if we don't laugh we'll cry yeah that's actually my problem is laughing is my coping

01:02:48.800 mechanism that's okay you know genuinely deep down i'm sad inside for that girl yeah anyway

01:02:53.340 but now now you're here loving her so that's a good thing now i'm here loving her yeah that's

01:02:57.080 a beautiful thing yes thank you so yeah cashews is a safe food of mine and so i ate so many cashews

01:03:02.480 that i got so constipated i had to give myself an enema yeah i know what an enema is you gave

01:03:08.220 it to yourself to myself and you're like a kid sorry this is really sad oh my god it's okay

01:03:13.780 oh my god no but yeah it's like okay no and i'm like like mind you i'm like five well it's not

01:03:20.800 actually i'm not five but i'm like so little i didn't even know what was going on but now as an

01:03:23.720 adult i'm like oh my god you had to give yourself an enema yeah and it worked it worked but then

01:03:28.860 now i can't eat like i can eat peanuts and i can eat cashews but if i eat too much i get

01:03:34.800 constipated well yeah i mean i can eat like very little peanut butter

01:03:38.340 peanut butter's not that great it's all right yeah whatever it's all right you're not missing

01:03:44.140 out it makes me really don't tell her you're not more you're not missing out yeah so that's

01:03:48.260 happened but yeah the doctor was literally like you ate so many you now have an aversion

01:03:51.720 yeah i was like and i do yeah and he's no more cashews for you and he said that's okay i've had

01:03:57.140 enough for a lifetime okay we'll move on to a hopefully another fun fact okay this one will

01:04:02.540 actually be fun okay erica joined the track team in high school but hated running so you did pole

01:04:07.360 ball oh that's exactly true yeah no i literally hated running and i wasn't good at anything else

01:04:12.260 and i'm not fast so but here's the thing our dad was very much um you have to be doing an activity

01:04:17.660 it could have been anything like they did speech and debate in high school yeah because he just

01:04:20.460 wanted us to have like some kind of extracurricular to be into my parents were the same yeah yeah and

01:04:24.600 i think it's actually a really good rule to have yeah to involve yourself in different communities

01:04:27.900 so yeah i was doing karate like since forever yeah and um i was starting to get sick of it

01:04:32.140 because all my friends had quit and so it's just me and i was and i started to lose i was like okay

01:04:36.540 i don't like it anymore i'm literally losing what the heck all the other kids like had hit puberty 0.57

01:04:40.420 and i hadn't so now i'm like sparring and i'm getting my ass beat and i'm like okay great 0.78

01:04:44.200 because we're still we're not doing weight divisions we're doing age groups and everybody's 0.95

01:04:47.220 fucking bigger than me okay love that so uh he was like well if you're you're gonna quit you

01:04:52.780 gotta join something else but by then um the good speech and debate coach that they had um had moved 0.98

01:04:56.920 to a different school so i was like i don't really want to do speech and debate if it's not like the

01:04:59.280 same coach that they had right so i was like oh what's like a sport that's like kind of like

01:05:04.000 anybody can do it and i was like track and field um i was like i've got to do something and so i

01:05:09.420 did pole vault i was really bad at it but you know what i did it and i didn't have to do kind

01:05:12.900 of day um but you know i got over the pole occasionally occasionally you said i was there

01:05:19.200 i was participating yeah i had the uniform on and everything but by my junior year i actually

01:05:24.060 went through puberty um so then i grew a bit and then i started doing hurdles because i was tall

01:05:29.400 enough to get over them just like bretman yeah but i was bad at it yeah bretman was good

01:05:33.080 bretman has talent and i have um i just didn't want to do kind of day anymore yeah and i just

01:05:38.640 had a lot of free time so what are we gonna do with that you know i when i was a senior no junior

01:05:44.640 in high school and my sister was a senior and my my man actually went to our high school so he was

01:05:49.500 a senior too oh what yeah we we've known each other since high school oh nice and we were not

01:05:54.060 high school sweethearts i have to say that yes we'd actually remember i've seen yeah like after

01:05:58.260 college actually oh after yeah so he went to uh too though no no he went to unlv for a bit and

01:06:04.140 then he went to apu which is like but i feel like from what i've seen i remember watching

01:06:08.020 he had been plotting on you yeah yeah because i knew he'd been plotting i thought you guys

01:06:11.280 met in college and really he went to your high school no yeah i've known him since high school

01:06:14.480 been plotting yes it it was one of those things where like when we look back at it now it's it's

01:06:19.860 like funny to look at it now um because i quite literally it was just me and my sister were the

01:06:25.480 only people in our entire high school that did not like want him and it's because i viscerally

01:06:31.480 hated men even worse than i do now and like and then uh my sister was a lesbian yeah she just

01:06:37.260 didn't know it yet and my sister was like honestly that's probably how i should have known i was a

01:06:40.760 lesbian because he was the only boy i did not have a crush on in high school i was like yuck

01:06:44.700 but she liked all these other horrible men like my sister always had a crush and it was always on 0.52

01:06:49.680 a boy that i was like what is the matter with you what is the matter with you uh but when we were

01:06:54.280 in high school together um the end of senior year my mom was like always like you have to be in a

01:06:59.420 sport so like I played volleyball and then I would do soccer and then for spring I did track and

01:07:04.720 field because I was like yeah I was like I don't want to fucking run and then uh my sister was 0.81

01:07:09.420 gonna throw oh so I was like okay fuck it I'll throw and then we joined the throwing team and 0.93

01:07:14.380 then Billy actually copied us because we just like we lettered it was pretty easy to letter 0.97

01:07:19.040 and then he just copied us and he brought all his friends so we all threw together on the track

01:07:23.480 was it like a shot put moment yeah we did shot put in discus and i did just well enough to make

01:07:30.440 varsity to like hang out with my sister and my friends that's more than well yeah but other than 0.94

01:07:34.960 that i was like i'm not doing this for i was so bad at discus i didn't give a fuck i like i would 0.78

01:07:40.100 throw it into that every time and be like well and then i would just get off and go talk to my 0.92

01:07:44.460 friends but i was like i'm just here so my mom doesn't tell me to join something else yeah no

01:07:48.660 i was like i don't care about doing well don't care about doing well at all and even like my

01:07:54.140 my coach would like tell my sister if your sister just took it seriously like if she just really 0.94

01:07:58.640 locked in and my sister's like she's not gonna do that shit because i was too busy talking yeah i'm 0.96

01:08:03.320 here to chat i'm here to gab i'm a personality hire on this team that's what i'm doing here 0.95

01:08:07.620 i'm cracking jokes girl that's what i'm doing okay uh next one but kirsten uh it says kirsten

01:08:13.520 once threw up after a pole dancing class because you were spinning so fast oh

01:08:17.560 well that's half the story yeah no the other half is insane the other half is are you a fan

01:08:24.940 of texas roadhouse yeah me too or so i was or so yeah before they made you an op yes no so we went

01:08:32.300 to texas roadhouse there was like 10 of us and then three of us got food poisoning to the point

01:08:37.440 where we were hospitalized oh my god yeah and you were one of those three i was on three and we all

01:08:41.560 ordered something different so how weird is that no it's like a sanitary sanitary issue it's texas

01:08:46.900 roadhouse issue so uh i went to the pool dancing class the day after i went to texas roadhouse

01:08:51.860 mind you i ate the texas roadhouse then the next day as my leftovers right because you're two days

01:08:57.380 she's like i'm sick i'm like weird she was like i can't go to the pool dancing class i was like

01:09:02.100 i'm going eating my freaking steak and then you're your carb loading before the pool dancing yeah

01:09:07.200 yeah exactly and then um and then i start pool dancing i'm like oh my god i'm so sick and i'm

01:09:11.160 thinking it's because i'm spinning so fast yeah so then i start like throwing up in the bathroom

01:09:14.980 i'm like wow just like so nauseous from like pool dancing and then i got home and started throwing

01:09:19.200 up blood oh my god that scary lettuce disease started there literally at that texas roadhouse

01:09:27.260 that's ground zero in orem utah patient one like oh my god it's the hospital you know i ate at an

01:09:32.980 olive garden in utah and i got violent food poisoning so there's something going on in utah 0.85

01:09:39.000 probably right because it's like it's on the yeah it's punishing all the mormons over there

01:09:46.320 i'm kidding i'm kidding obviously also do you guys like chakarama i've never been it's in utah

01:09:54.340 it's a utah that's like erica's worst nightmare oh my god is it it's a buffet it's like the most

01:09:59.180 mid buffet of your entire life it's not that great but i love it no no sushi no there's not

01:10:04.540 if there is fish there you should not eat it but it's like it's like well it's in you that was the

01:10:09.680 first place i went to a chakarama was in utah um in saint george utah specifically and i was like

01:10:15.760 this is i love a good buffet yeah so like it's an it's a buffet but it's like the most racist

01:10:20.800 people in the entire universe are there so that's something you have to keep in mind yeah that being

01:10:25.120 said the food was awesome oh really with it i loved it it was like i love like diner food like 0.98

01:10:30.660 oh okay got it people kind of food like the shit that old people would fuck with i like that okay 0.85

01:10:35.500 nice so i'm like every time someone goes to utah i'm like you should go to chukarama oh so you 0.99

01:10:38.880 like okay and you get your money's worth because it's buffet yeah you really get your money's

01:10:42.400 worth that's what i'm saying it's very mid it's not like it's not amazing but that's not what i

01:10:47.180 ever really expect from any like buffet like that yeah exactly well especially not a place called

01:10:51.380 chukarama yeah when you said it i was like i was like have we switched topics i was like i don't

01:10:56.060 know if we're talking about food anymore i was like i don't know what this is have you been to

01:10:59.500 pizza pie cafe no it's just like chuckarama or like cc's pizza or unlimited pizzas oh yeah no

01:11:05.440 no i've never been well i used to bring like ziploc bags in college and then i would chuck

01:11:08.820 the pizza in the ziploc bag i paid the money yeah and then i would eat it the day after too

01:11:12.840 that's well and good thing you didn't get any uh food poisoning and i didn't get food poisoning

01:11:16.840 unlike texas roadhouse i've never done a pole dancing class are they fun they are i mean i

01:11:22.760 was so nauseous but it seems fun you're i don't remember i was too busy thinking about my steak

01:11:28.400 from Texas Roadhouse when you don't throw up they're fun yeah I would recommend going with

01:11:32.720 friends only thing is the back of my legs were so bruised after because it gets like you really

01:11:36.980 gotta hold on yeah you're like banging up against that pole a million times we should go we should

01:11:42.600 go together that would be fun I would love that I would love to a lot of fun I just took a workout

01:11:46.460 class with my girlfriend last night I went to bar method oh did you like bar I liked it I enjoyed

01:11:51.920 myself honestly I was like I haven't taken a workout class in I don't even know how long I

01:11:56.600 just go to the regular gym yeah yeah so like what i had never in a million years gone like to 0.60

01:12:01.240 anything like that so i did it and i sweat through my bra holy shit i sweat so crazy and at the end

01:12:06.900 we stretched a lot which i loved and then she turned the lights off and she was like let's take

01:12:10.600 some deep breaths and at the end she goes and thank yourself for showing up today and i was 0.99

01:12:15.600 like you know why hell yeah yeah you know what yeah ladies i'm loving it ladies let's give

01:12:20.720 ourselves a hand i really felt so inspired by it i was like god i love being a girl

01:12:24.620 a lot of yoga classes they i'm like why are we getting like a motivational speech i know but i

01:12:29.460 love it me like tearing up at the end i was like wow i should thank myself for showing up have you

01:12:35.060 seen that tiktok where it's like when your instructor is like and remember your why today

01:12:38.760 but my why is the 15 cancellation fee right yeah for real and they would have charged me 30 bucks

01:12:44.500 if i didn't show that did motivate me to get there exactly i'm like no i'm not paying a

01:12:49.000 cancellation fee i was like i loved all the women in there i i love that it was an all women class

01:12:53.220 and then there was a woman teaching it. 0.98

01:12:54.960 I've worked with it.

01:12:55.760 No, that's what I like too.

01:12:56.680 And they are like very inspiring.

01:12:58.500 I'm like, wow, love that.

01:12:59.740 I should come here on Sundays.

01:13:00.500 This is beautiful.

01:13:01.840 Ladies, I love it. 1.00

01:13:03.300 Okay, last fun fact about Erica. 0.99

01:13:05.480 Erica played Callie on a show called Crown Lake

01:13:08.640 that used to have posters up in our old studio.

01:13:11.640 I'm literally, like in the abyss of my memory.

01:13:16.240 Like that is like peak when my brain wasn't even present.

01:13:19.180 But Crown Lake, from what I remember about it,

01:13:21.280 it was actually so much fun.

01:13:22.240 and like the the team was really fun to work with and they were super fun and kind right um same

01:13:26.460 with because i think they wanted a bunch of like tiktokers to be on the season that i was on i just 0.95

01:13:31.720 looked absolutely insane every episode because my character had this thing where she always had to

01:13:35.940 have bright blue eyeshadow on and then they were like put it on her put it on the asian girl

01:13:41.040 i don't think i have anything to do with it but they're like put that girl in bright blue eyeshadow

01:13:47.160 and I had like these these really thick eyebrows which were great but paired with like my like

01:13:52.620 damaged blonde hair like it just looked I just looked insane it was like thick eyebrows dark

01:13:57.600 eyebrows blonde hair blue eyeshadow like no sense of self that's actually one of the biggest fights

01:14:04.560 me and Erica got into what I didn't have a sense of her boundaries just now now I wouldn't be more

01:14:08.620 understanding but I was like we were going to a Lakers game and I was like Erica come through

01:14:11.640 yeah I think you just finished your crown leg shooting I had blue eyeshadow on and I was like

01:14:15.780 I don't want to

01:14:16.760 She was like

01:14:17.260 I was like come

01:14:18.280 Yeah

01:14:18.680 Come 0.99

01:14:19.180 So she comes

01:14:19.900 It's like with the team

01:14:21.360 Of like managers

01:14:22.500 Like there are people there

01:14:23.260 That are like are important

01:14:24.040 Yes well

01:14:24.700 So one of her favorite YouTubers is there

01:14:26.160 And I'm like

01:14:26.580 Your favorite YouTuber's there

01:14:27.600 Go so high

01:14:28.440 Oh my god

01:14:29.380 Drew was so bad

01:14:30.180 She's like I'm wearing blue eyeshadow

01:14:31.220 I was like just go say hi

01:14:32.060 Who is the YouTuber

01:14:32.760 You can bleep it

01:14:34.380 You can bleep it

01:14:34.940 I'll bleep it for you

01:14:35.640 Okay no no no

01:14:36.280 So now I've met them since

01:14:37.720 Okay

01:14:37.980 And I've met them multiple times

01:14:39.780 Without blue eyeshadow

01:14:40.520 Without blue eyeshadow

01:14:41.440 They have been nicer to me

01:14:42.800 When I'm not wearing blue eyeshadow

01:14:44.080 that's funny um it was like oh now you want to be nice to me when i don't have my blue

01:14:51.140 eyeshadow on exactly it was um it was a man it was you have permission to put a photo in yeah

01:14:59.340 literally like i just looked absolutely insane like also i'm not doing my own makeup it's like

01:15:05.500 the makeup artist so she's like yes let's put it on pack it on so she's packing on the blue

01:15:10.120 eyeshadow and it's like also not it's like turquoise yeah but oh the the person in question

01:15:15.380 was um as in oh i see yes yeah yeah but i mean i love him most random person that is very random

01:15:23.380 i didn't even know who he was i didn't know it was a big deal wait yes because yes i was like

01:15:29.180 this is like a fun group of people anyway but he was there and i was like never met in person he

01:15:32.540 was like you'd be nice anyway so we go up it was nicer to you when you weren't in the blue eyeshadow

01:15:36.460 that makes sense you're like not even close no no like i'm gonna tell you what happened the first

01:15:40.200 time because we're at this lakers game kirsten is like no no you have to introduce yourself i'm

01:15:44.180 like i literally look crazy i was like no i was like no i literally don't i don't know who a lot

01:15:49.040 of people are either so it's okay so i was like who cares my sister knows who everyone is and i

01:15:53.200 don't know that's her yeah actually no we switch off i know about half the internet she's the other

01:15:57.040 half yeah but um this is literally i'm gonna pretend that you're me and then kirsten is

01:16:03.020 kirsten okay so um kirsten's like we should say hi so kirsten comes up and then i come up and i

01:16:09.120 go hi and he goes hi 0.90

01:16:11.820 it's my blue eye shadow isn't it no that's why you're treating me that way i fucking knew it 0.93

01:16:22.100 this is why i told you i didn't want to come i started a fight with my sister in front of him 0.93

01:16:25.360 and it was so bad i make it awkward for everyone you don't want to be rude to me okay i'm gonna 0.53

01:16:29.440 blow it up then it was so bad that her manager was even like wow he just grazed right past you

01:16:35.380 he said i can't talk to this woman she has blue eyeshadow and i can't handle it i can't be doing

01:16:42.820 that and ever since i've met him after i just have a really bad taste in my mouth i'm like 0.94

01:16:46.460 and you should because he's rude yeah i'll say it he's fucking rude oh really yes i have i i don't 0.84

01:16:53.120 and you weren't wearing blue eyeshadow and i wasn't wearing blue eyeshadow i think it's just 0.94

01:16:56.720 my general energy no a lot nicer when you're not wearing blue eyeshadow though you should try

01:17:01.540 wearing blue eyeshadow i should next time i see him i'm going to yeah i want to see how he treats

01:17:05.500 me but i'm gonna freak out either way whether it's good or bad i'm gonna freak out but good

01:17:12.840 to know that well you know what i've had quite a few interactions too with uh like i would say

01:17:18.780 more so than anything and i haven't had a ton of negative interactions but like the ones i have had

01:17:23.740 have been with like content creators it's interesting they haven't been with like actual

01:17:27.580 celebrities actual celebrities are not like that if you can believe it but they gotta be more i

01:17:31.720 don't know if it's like the lack of pr training but i feel like celebrities could be just horrible

01:17:34.500 if they want to do so i don't know yeah that's why yeah it's kind of shocking it's like i you

01:17:38.360 would think that they would be more inclined to be rude but i think maybe it also it could just

01:17:43.100 be that they're just fearful like everyone's constantly watching them yeah so maybe they're

01:17:47.580 just better trained at it but like yeah the most negative interactions i've ever had have been with

01:17:51.980 like social people or reality tv people what's the like the rudest interaction oh yeah i know

01:17:57.840 you've shared a lot on your podcast what's one you haven't shared um god i'm trying to think of

01:18:02.800 like the rudest like ever where it like actually pissed me off and made me upset oh well it was

01:18:08.580 actually it was one creator who was a reality star and then became a creator um but uh it was

01:18:15.280 a girl so i'll say that i'll just use like she her pronouns but she met me and my sister um who

01:18:21.500 i take like everywhere i take days everywhere with me like a lot of times so we went to this

01:18:25.740 big dinner it was like this big branded dinner and there was like uh a lot of concert it was

01:18:30.280 all content creators but there wasn't that many of us there was only like maybe 12 of us and uh

01:18:34.680 we were sitting on one side of the table and she came around to introduce herself to me and she

01:18:39.120 was like hey like i'm so and so like huge fucking fan blah blah blah i was like oh nice to meet you

01:18:44.340 and i was like and i always like i'm like this is my sister dayson and i always introduce her and 0.81

01:18:48.720 then so i said this is my sister dayson and she goes hi and then she goes um oh my god do you just

01:18:55.560 feel so lucky to my sister like they're they have had no interaction thus far she didn't even

01:19:00.180 acknowledge her that's why i introduced her yeah and then she was like my sister goes what do you 0.92

01:19:04.580 mean and she goes just to be riding your sister's coattails is that just like the fucking best like 0.98

01:19:09.860 i always every time my brother tries to come with me somewhere i'm always like you better kiss my 0.99

01:19:13.260 feet before you go oh and that's the first interaction that was the very first interaction

01:19:17.840 with me and her which i get very angry if you're rude to people who are with me you know because 0.95

01:19:24.020 that's different yeah sisters friends whoever it is like if you're fucking rude to them like 0.84

01:19:28.660 they send jokes about this all the time but she's like when people are rude to me i'm always like 0.76

01:19:31.940 guess who's never coming on the comment section 0.98

01:19:34.140 no and i take that dead ass like i'm like yeah no you never i don't care how famous you get 0.97

01:19:41.560 and it's funny because she did that and i was like i was so irritated but i was like you know 0.98

01:19:47.640 it's a brand thing i don't want to be too rude so when she said that my sister didn't even say 0.60

01:19:51.780 anything because like what do you fucking say to that and then i went it's really nice to meet you 0.98

01:19:56.220 yeah and then i just turned my back to her because i was like go to your fucking seat 0.98

01:20:00.100 fast forward right to oh there's more i'm scared renaissance like when we went i got invited by 0.97

01:20:05.680 sacred which is now sacred by the time we didn't know but it was like uh this huge secret thing

01:20:10.860 that we did where we got to go see renaissance on the on beyonce's birthday brettman was with me

01:20:15.220 yeah and like we went and it was fucking awesome it was so it was such a fun trip but that girl

01:20:21.000 was there too i don't know why she's not in the video good luck finding her um but she she was

01:20:26.160 also in there i think with someone else and she came up to us and then only wanted to talk to my

01:20:31.480 sister completely different energy yeah because she and she was like yeah i don't know if you

01:20:36.820 remember me like to meet to my sister and my sister goes no i remember you and then she was

01:20:42.280 like oh like yeah you're just like so amazing like completely different energy because shortly

01:20:48.540 after that interaction she has to come on my show like two or three times oh obviously i said no

01:20:52.520 yeah and then like this renaissance show happens uh we're kind of brushing her off because i'm like 0.96

01:20:57.520 i don't like you so get away from me and then at one point she got so fucked up and she like her 0.91

01:21:03.020 top had broken so she had put on like the free merch they gave us uh-huh and this she comes up 0.99

01:21:07.800 to us later in the day and she's drunk as hell and she's like are you guys having the best time

01:21:12.760 and we're like yeah like trying to enjoy the concert and she was like me too i'm like whoo

01:21:18.120 she starts going like this pulls up her shirt flashes us and i wish i'm not making that up 0.93

01:21:23.800 like i'm so that i have never been more what the fuck i was so pissed off i was like first you're 1.00

01:21:33.400 rude as fuck to my sister two years later you flash me bitch get away from me oh my god i'm 1.00

01:21:38.520 gonna beat the shit out of you i'm gonna beat your ass get away from me bitch oh my god she 1.00

01:21:44.040 did that and then be like bouncing i swear to god puts the shirt down i i'm so angry i look at her i 1.00

01:21:51.300 go turn around i'm gonna go turn around watch the show because i'm like don't talk to me i and i'm 0.56

01:21:56.260 not gonna fuck up my relationship with sacred by freaking out on you turn around i said turn around 0.81

01:22:01.360 watch the show she didn't turn around again i just think you better face that way the rest of 0.99

01:22:06.320 the fucking night i swear to god i'm pissed that was probably the worst one 0.99

01:22:10.480 i would say that's probably the worst one i've had 0.99

01:22:15.600 she hit me with a 180 i was so confused i'm like she's like i know it'll fix it yeah exactly

01:22:26.140 this usually works i know it'll fix it oh man i'll do something that traumatizes all of us 0.97

01:22:32.660 so crazy so yeah i've seen that girl's tits and i was very upset about it i didn't ask you and 1.00

01:22:38.340 she forced me to and you are never coming on my show bitch you are never coming on my fucking 1.00

01:22:43.560 show you know who you are you are not invited wait do you guys want to hear something else i 1.00

01:22:51.440 just remembered right now you know those stupid ass like happy five-year anniversary things they're 1.00

01:22:57.000 doing on tiktok like with your did it just pop no that girl just sent me one because she was my 1.00

01:23:02.320 mutual at one literally yesterday and i was like get away you fucking demon you've seen it all 0.99

01:23:12.880 i don't like you i don't know what else you could get from our interactions but you know 0.99

01:23:18.220 some people can't take a hint some people can't read a room is what it is oh man i'll probably

01:23:23.000 see her again and she'll be like wow so good who knows what else remember these 0.94

01:23:28.920 okay well oh my god that's hilarious on that note on that shaking tits note uh thank you both for 0.98

01:23:38.580 coming on the show oh we literally had the best time i fucking adore you both and i and i have to 0.93

01:23:44.700 say too like again I really do think the two of you have such a strong presence online and I hope

01:23:51.460 you guys continue to do it I hope you guys continue to push and do more uh because I think the two of

01:23:56.100 you are some of like our last authentic voices left honestly and it's like it means a lot to me

01:24:01.320 to see women of color uh making a lot of content about you know dating about beauty about things

01:24:08.260 that you love or things that you struggle with um I love women of color I love when they I love when

01:24:12.600 they thrive i love when they win so i love you both and i hope you continue on and i'm always

01:24:17.380 here if you need me thank you and you've been such a huge inspiration to us just so you know

01:24:21.100 i'm like i feel like you probably yeah but just in case you don't know now you know thank you

01:24:24.700 i appreciate you for keeping us empowered we need it yeah period i agreed same thing to y'all and

01:24:29.020 also for being so funny no seriously in that last story i'm gonna think about it

01:24:33.540 i know we're talking about at the hotel

01:24:37.420 oh my god that's i was like this job is such a joke this job is so made up in so many ways but

01:24:45.880 i adore you both and i i think you both are so important to the internet and i

01:24:50.140 can't wait to see you continue to thrive thank you incredible and for the two maybe three people

01:24:56.280 that don't know where can everybody find you um you can find me on instagram at kirsten titus or

01:25:01.400 on tiktok my username is still at pepperoni muffin unfortunately i did make that that that's me

01:25:07.700 oh you can find me uh on tiktok at erica titus and then instagram at erica m titus oh and our

01:25:15.880 new podcast coming yes please for system error system spelled s-i-s because we are sisters yes

01:25:23.480 and i hear the crowd laughing because it's not a good name and we also can't change it so everybody

01:25:27.700 be nice 0.98

01:25:28.220 we fucking hate it 0.99

01:25:30.380 but unfortunately 1.00

01:25:30.900 we're married to it

01:25:31.700 yeah exactly

01:25:32.080 it's already

01:25:32.600 it's happened

01:25:33.640 we already did

01:25:34.300 the photo shoot for it

01:25:35.040 which we really didn't need to

01:25:35.220 because a lot of people

01:25:36.680 randomly have taken

01:25:37.520 that username

01:25:38.020 yeah so we have

01:25:39.440 very many variations

01:25:40.720 our manager was like

01:25:41.580 make sure you get the names

01:25:42.320 and we were like

01:25:42.640 got it

01:25:43.120 and then we looked

01:25:43.560 and we were like

01:25:43.800 oh my god it's already gone

01:25:44.360 they're all taken

01:25:44.880 someone took it

01:25:46.040 no worries

01:25:47.160 but new podcast

01:25:48.960 very exciting

01:25:49.580 yes

01:25:49.960 very exciting

01:25:50.800 coming to y'all

01:25:51.380 make sure you guys

01:25:51.960 go check out

01:25:52.760 Kirsten and Erica

01:25:53.340 on literally everything

01:25:54.260 they are adorable

01:25:55.100 and amazing

01:25:55.660 and incredible

01:25:56.100 and we love them

01:25:56.960 and thank you so much for tuning into the comment section don't forget new episodes of the comment

01:26:01.400 section drop every wednesday you can stream the audio on all streaming platforms but the video

01:26:05.200 lives now exclusively on youtube very very exciting thank you so much to my amazing guests

01:26:10.180 kirsten and erica thank you so much for tuning in and i'll see you next week bye

01:26:13.240 Bye.

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The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - August 05, 2026

ERIKA & KIRSTEN TITUS ARE SPINNING OUT (Ft. Erika & Kirsten Titus) ｜ Episode 233

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