The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - July 29, 2026


MATT BUECHELE CAN RUN A MAILROOM (Ft. Matt Buechele) | Episode 232


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1 hour and 38 minutes

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00:01:12.440 do you get like crazy threats all like oh yeah still like people yeah oh all the time yeah all
00:01:21.300 the time they've they've died down quite a few now yeah oh yeah i have like active open cases
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00:01:40.520 hey everyone and welcome back to another episode of the comment section show sorry me your pave
00:01:50.940 Everybody knows me, who cares about me, on to the guests.
00:01:53.960 Today we have the iconic, the legendary, the hilarious, Matt Buschel.
00:01:58.340 Woo!
00:01:59.920 Hello, thank you.
00:02:01.400 It's a thrill to be here.
00:02:02.500 Oh my gosh, it's a thrill to have you.
00:02:03.780 Yeah, right.
00:02:04.360 We were talking about the Inland Empire.
00:02:05.840 We were.
00:02:06.320 We were talking about the Inland Empire, where I'm from.
00:02:08.180 We were also talking about the many different studios I've been in in LA.
00:02:11.220 Yes, this is the best.
00:02:12.100 It's very nice.
00:02:12.700 This is very nice.
00:02:13.660 This is, I would say, our nicest one.
00:02:15.420 One of them.
00:02:16.040 It's top five.
00:02:17.000 Yeah.
00:02:17.380 And I've been to five.
00:02:18.560 Yeah.
00:02:18.740 What was the worst one?
00:02:20.480 the worst one was probably the last one well no actually the worst one was actually it wasn't even
00:02:25.420 a studio it was like a storage unit and it had no air conditioning oh great and we film in the
00:02:31.460 summer yeah how long have you been doing this show oh i've been doing this for now five months
00:02:36.980 about five days you've been jumping yeah i was like i'm real cold plunging it with you no it's
00:02:41.600 been about three years oh wow congrats that's amazing four years four years technically four
00:02:46.620 years yeah four years long time does it feel like a long time or are you still having a good time
00:02:51.100 it only feels long when i look backwards sure you know like especially at season one like all of
00:02:56.280 season one i like almost don't count because it was a real like we were just figuring it out bumpy
00:03:01.080 waters yeah it was pretty bumpy at the time but like it was more so because i think i thrive in
00:03:06.760 a medium with not too much structure so like i can kind of just talk there was way too much
00:03:11.240 structure in the beginning yeah it was like let's play a game and also yes james corden
00:03:15.160 get in the car sing a song yeah i was like i'm gonna go outside of the crosswalk and we're gonna
00:03:19.800 do a musical yeah what do you think that is about no structure is better because i feel the same way
00:03:24.000 and i don't know what that means i don't know i i feel like part of it i think it just depends on
00:03:27.700 what the goal is like for for me the goal of this show has always been to just talk and chat and get
00:03:33.900 to know people that's what yeah right and i like especially like when talent like yourself like
00:03:38.900 when you talk to me and you kind of like feel relaxed and you feel like we could talk about
00:03:43.180 anything it could be things maybe you never talk about passions you never really talk about
00:03:46.960 or get asked about so that's kind of the beauty in it i feel like it's hard to get there when
00:03:51.400 there's a lot of like bits and sticks yeah yeah we're trying to yeah we're figuring out our group
00:03:57.660 oh yeah because you you have a podcast as well a new podcast yeah yeah no but we're trying to
00:04:01.680 figure out like what do we want to play games do we want to have structure and i can't just like
00:04:04.760 bullshitting for an hour but i also go like wow well that's why we do i think like over the years
00:04:09.260 we've like evolved too because obviously it's called the comment section in the beginning 0.61
00:04:12.760 because that's what i was known for was getting tagged yeah i've seen those so that was like
00:04:17.140 the initial inception of the show was like oh let's talk about comments but like obviously
00:04:21.540 as time has gone on and it's evolved comment sections have become unbearable in a lot of
00:04:26.980 ways and then also it scares off talent because they're like i don't want to talk about comments
00:04:31.740 i don't want to look at them really yeah so it's been it was working against me in that regard as 0.57
00:04:36.100 well starting your career yeah me trying to get this shit off the ground yeah it was that was 0.64
00:04:40.420 also working against me but i was pulling in favors i think in the beginning especially i was
00:04:44.320 like yeah pulling in a lot of uh like people that just loved me from online and they were just kind
00:04:48.960 of fucking with me so they were willing to come and sit and bullshit with me yeah through the the 0.94
00:04:53.540 kinks and now you've gotten past the bullshit yes and now they know it's just a time to key 1.00
00:04:57.980 like talk yeah promote whatever you it is you would like to promote and then also uh we can 0.91
00:05:03.460 at the end we do a little bit of fun facts oh yeah i i have my own in-house nardwar um so we
00:05:09.400 do a little bit of fun facts we will get there with you i did i have listened yeah yeah i've
00:05:13.280 seen so the fun facts thing i think is really fun it's kind of like we were talking about caleb how
00:05:17.360 much we love caleb oh yeah like at the end of his obviously he talks about uh he does like the
00:05:21.460 uh the little trivia game oh yeah true false so yeah him kind of taking my bit but whatever
00:05:27.800 i guess just kidding um before we started you were we were asking about stand-up yes i would
00:05:32.660 love to talk about stand-up well first before we talk about my experience i'd love to know
00:05:35.920 how you came to do stand-up how if you liked stand-up initially or if you grew to love it
00:05:41.220 over time it's so love hate like i don't really do it anymore i used to do it when i went to
00:05:46.320 college i started it yes and then uh i talk about it like it's a drug or something i've since been
00:05:52.080 off you and me both yeah i'm okay now yeah um no i was doing it in new york i moved to new york like
00:05:56.960 the like 14 years ago i've been there for a while and i was doing improv i was doing stand-up i was
00:06:03.060 doing anything where i was like i should be if i do this i'll get snl if i do this i'll be in the
00:06:07.900 right improv is like which is a comedian's rite of passage yeah have you done that i have done
00:06:13.380 improv but only in college i haven't done it like outside of college yeah it's yeah you're you're
00:06:18.840 killing it don't don't unless you really want to explore long form uh what it's like to create
00:06:24.580 from nothing it's kind of going backwards at this point yeah it's like everyone gets something out
00:06:30.620 of it that's true I got a lot you really have to like let go of perception or being embarrassed
00:06:35.360 have you ever been in a room and been like these other people were fucking with this way more than 0.52
00:06:39.980 me that's like what it was for me like and it took me like two years to realize that I was not 0.76
00:06:44.460 one of the guys right right right you're like it's not hitting me the way it's yeah I was trying all
00:06:48.340 that I ended up doing more stand-up because I liked that there was something tangible to it
00:06:52.120 like improv it disappears you're done and you're like that was awesome and then you can't remember
00:06:55.660 right what happened for real so yeah i don't know i go back and forth i might start doing it more
00:07:00.360 again but right now i'm just trying to do a pod and right writing a lot but which is great yeah
00:07:05.140 what's your dream with writing what what would be a dream for you god are you looking at like
00:07:10.200 a show are you looking at movies yeah i would love to like i would love to create a tv show
00:07:15.700 have it run for many seasons right make money be critically you know like rewarded yeah it would
00:07:21.400 the best um easier said than done right turns out that's kind of difficult it's not easy
00:07:26.100 turns out a lot of people want to do that yeah a lot well when i'm here i also like i feel it here 0.96
00:07:31.340 too i just like look around i'm like every motherfucker here is trying to do this everyone's 0.78
00:07:34.940 everyone's in the cafe writing yeah yeah you kind of get that everybody's like i gotta get out of 0.95
00:07:38.260 the office to get inspiration it's a cliche but it feels like it's true it's true it's very true
00:07:43.040 um but yeah no that would be like the dream i would like to write like theater i would like
00:07:47.400 to get a play going it's theater would be so cool do you like drama anything really yeah like i mean
00:07:53.380 i guess i do comedy but like i would do anything i would write like a musical i would do like oh
00:07:57.780 my gosh do you love to sing i do yeah do you like do you like broadway yeah yeah oh my god me too 0.83
00:08:02.840 how often do you go to new york i go to new york fucking a at this point it feels like i go like 0.81
00:08:07.360 twice a month but like i was just in new york like a week and a half ago no i was only there 0.87
00:08:13.300 for 12 hours i literally flew to new york woke up there did something did work went straight to the
00:08:20.320 airport flew back to la oh woke up in la went to the airport again flew to hawaii flew back the
00:08:26.100 next day so i just too much yeah that's too much that's i was like i jumped three time zones in
00:08:30.720 three days yeah but i love new york though when i was there a week ago that is the kind of weather
00:08:36.840 that like convinces you to move to new york i was saying like yeah it was really good in the spring
00:08:41.300 summer obviously it's summer now but like new york has about a 12 day window where the weather
00:08:46.540 is so awesome that you're like i could live here yeah i could live here then you move there and 0.99
00:08:51.820 then two weeks later it's satan's ass it's so hot it's satan's ass it's a lot it's all 1.00
00:08:57.480 it's all things yeah yeah and you're you're smelling human shit roasting and there's not 1.00
00:09:02.660 a beach in sight there's no wind charming you enjoy it i'm like this is that kind of weather 0.98
00:09:07.600 that tricks you into moving
00:09:09.780 to New York. No, yeah, you're right. It's a 12-day window.
00:09:11.760 It was so beautiful there when I went last week. I'm so glad you got to have that.
00:09:13.760 Yeah, I was walking. I was like, oh, this is that window.
00:09:15.760 Oh, I love when it's like this. I know. By the time
00:09:17.760 I go back, it's going to be hell.
00:09:19.620 I'm going to be downstairs. You're outside the window
00:09:21.840 when you go back. Yeah, no, it's good right now.
00:09:24.880 What are some
00:09:25.740 Broadway shows you've seen? Have you seen recently that you've been
00:09:27.800 loving? Hmm, what have I seen that I love lately?
00:09:29.960 It was a weird year for musicals. I feel like there was nothing
00:09:31.900 like amazing. That's very true.
00:09:33.680 Or new. Yeah. Like super, super new.
00:09:35.640 This is older, but I saw Buena Vista Social Club recently.
00:09:38.600 I love that.
00:09:39.100 Do you know anything about this?
00:09:40.180 I've only seen the poster and clips.
00:09:43.080 I've never watched it.
00:09:43.700 It's just like the plot barely matters.
00:09:45.620 It's just a Cuban music concert for like two hours.
00:09:48.440 It's amazing.
00:09:49.520 Period.
00:09:49.980 And it's like New York.
00:09:51.000 And so there's a lot of people with family from there or from there themselves.
00:09:55.040 They're playing all these songs from the 60s.
00:09:57.180 Oh, I love.
00:09:57.780 And everyone knows the lyrics.
00:09:58.840 And I'm just sitting there like bopping around like, oh, how fun.
00:10:01.140 Just happy to be a part of it.
00:10:02.100 Happy to be in the room.
00:10:02.820 The energy is phenomenal.
00:10:04.680 Oh, it's great.
00:10:05.640 I think the last musical I saw in New York was Wicked, honestly, but that's only because I'd never seen it in New York.
00:10:13.140 I've never seen it either.
00:10:14.300 Oh, you have to.
00:10:15.060 Do you like the movies?
00:10:16.420 I loved, okay.
00:10:18.360 I don't know who you're friends with.
00:10:19.500 I don't know, like, what's going on.
00:10:21.120 I am friends with Cynthia Erivo.
00:10:22.420 Oh, okay.
00:10:22.880 But I did love both movies, and that could be my bias showing because I loved the musical itself.
00:10:28.180 The music's great.
00:10:28.980 But I had never seen it on Broadway at the Gershwin Theater, so, like, I really wanted to.
00:10:32.820 Did that deliver?
00:10:33.500 Yes, it did.
00:10:34.080 Okay, cool. 1.00
00:10:34.420 Like, when I went, I was like, okay, I'm buying into this fucking thing. 0.99
00:10:37.520 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.99
00:10:38.120 I'm being indoctrinated into the Church of Wicked, you know?
00:10:40.980 When I'm actively there.
00:10:42.220 No, but it's a good church to be in.
00:10:43.620 Yeah, I'm telling you.
00:10:44.460 I think so.
00:10:45.500 It's been running forever.
00:10:46.740 Yeah.
00:10:47.080 I mean, for a reason, I would say.
00:10:49.100 But yeah, I think that was the last Broadway show I saw.
00:10:51.960 Because I've seen Six as well, which I loved.
00:10:54.600 I need to see that.
00:10:55.260 And I missed Dylan's run.
00:10:56.420 I was so disappointed.
00:10:57.620 I was so bummed.
00:10:57.900 Dylan was in Six.
00:10:58.600 You're right.
00:10:59.120 She was recently.
00:10:59.940 And her run, like, just finished.
00:11:01.440 but i i wasn't in new york when she was in it which sucks but i want to see rocky horror too
00:11:06.240 i know i don't know how i feel about that one or what is it titanic titanic yeah i don't know how
00:11:11.780 to pronounce it i'd love to see that one i need to see that yeah that was like legendary when it
00:11:15.460 came out i know i don't know why i didn't see it then because i was like it was this kooky thing
00:11:19.660 in a basement and now it's like on broadway you know like they're performing on the tonys it's
00:11:24.100 so cool for real i think that's what i love about theater in new york is like something can start
00:11:28.020 as like a silly idea and be in a basement and then and become very real yeah very quickly weird
00:11:33.840 lives like that show's been around for a second and now it's at the tony's that's such a good
00:11:38.580 point i never thought of it that way i'm sure they'll bring it out here at some point i hope
00:11:42.760 so i don't know how touring companies yeah i was like well let's get them on the pod let's ask
00:11:46.560 the whole cast the whole cast with the back office crew yeah let's talk to them well let's pivot back
00:11:52.020 to sure i want to talk about stand-up because we were chatting about so what did you love about
00:11:57.260 stand up and what did you not really love about it um you know I love that it was like if it went
00:12:03.760 well you're like oh I'm so smart I came up with this thing I came up with this thing and it's
00:12:08.100 it's all me but I yeah totally on the same side of that coin I hated that if it was terrible you 0.98
00:12:12.920 were like I'm the dumbest person like I thought it's only you I'm the most unfunny ugliest person 0.97
00:12:18.280 alive yeah what all falls on you you're like I thought this was so fucking funny you're a team 0.99
00:12:21.980 of one yeah it's like that was the best part of improv when it went bad everyone was like they 0.95
00:12:25.980 just didn't get it you know it's like the worst shit you've ever done on stage you're like they're 0.58
00:12:31.200 well clearly they're not open get it you're right you were some people don't understand art yeah 0.99
00:12:34.840 your object work was killing it it wasn't you but stand up you are like you are a team of one
00:12:40.560 it's you so when it's not going well it's hard not to be like maybe i was off with that thing
00:12:44.780 maybe that's not a relatable observation but it's also just a grind it is yeah i don't think i'm
00:12:49.980 built for that i don't love working so i'm like i'm trying to like i mean it's not fun it's not
00:12:55.620 fun to work. I don't recommend that. I have to work
00:12:57.780 up the courage to do, uh, yeah, like
00:12:59.640 a shit ton of work. So I'm like, I'm gonna be doing
00:13:01.420 five spots a night, which is kind of what you gotta
00:13:03.680 be doing to be like. Especially, like, what
00:13:05.660 time they start. Like, you're, you
00:13:07.580 only get, like, 9.30 p.m. and on.
00:13:09.980 Yeah, no. Which I'm like, oh,
00:13:11.800 Jesus Christ. I'm like, I don't have time for that.
00:13:13.780 It's so much easier to film something on your phone.
00:13:15.840 Right. I agree. And then get the same
00:13:17.780 validation that my ego needs, and then be like,
00:13:19.760 well, I did it. Well, if I gotta scratch that itch, I can
00:13:21.700 do it way faster. I need to take two trains
00:13:23.460 and then and then be sitting in a crowd where there's like nine people i'm like why well this 0.90
00:13:28.180 guy sucks yeah that's a you know how sad that train ride right for real like real quiet train 0.96
00:13:34.460 right home i could have bombed on tiktok and learned way quicker yeah this wasn't worth 0.99
00:13:37.640 that's a good point that's a really good point yeah i i think with me like what we were talking
00:13:43.600 about with structure yeah that's uh this is kind of how i talked about it with caleb because he's
00:13:47.980 like encouraged me to do it for years and i yeah have tried it a couple times and i and i enjoyed
00:13:52.740 it i i did well i think by all respects i did well like nobody booed or anything so i would assume
00:13:57.060 i'm taking i'm taking my wins the barometer yeah i was like well no one booed and that could have
00:14:02.120 tomatoes that could have been because i was holding a gun but that's besides the point
00:14:05.140 you gotta remove that from yeah if you want any advice context aside i think you gotta leave the
00:14:10.900 gun in the car i even told caleb because i opened for him that was like the very first time i ever 0.99
00:14:15.980 did it for caleb that's so fun yeah which is fucking crazy i was like you're an idiot for 0.97
00:14:20.500 picking me that's what i was like but it's also because i had called him just a couple years ago 0.92
00:14:25.860 i'd called him to ask him for advice because a different comic had asked me to open for them
00:14:30.100 okay and i was like i've never done this before i don't really know that's kind of like how to
00:14:34.260 yeah yeah like and it was and it's because it's just like wow no no it doesn't offend me because
00:14:39.080 i too was like why are you asking me to do yeah i'd be like but it's also it's because they spent
00:14:43.480 a lot of time with me and they were like watching me perform and they're like you could just take
00:14:47.320 this and do it on stage which i do 10 minutes of that energy right which i was like if i was a man 0.96
00:14:52.120 with hubris yes i would i'd have a special by now and it would be dog shit but i would have it yeah 0.98
00:14:57.360 what i'm saying but i was like 100 agree you know how many bad fucking stand-up specials exist that's 0.92
00:15:01.440 what i'm saying but i have respect for the craft so i really if i was gonna do it i wanted to do 0.77
00:15:07.120 it right so that's why i called caleb and i was trying to pick his brain about it and i was like
00:15:11.920 chatting with him i was like well you know i just like i don't really do this i haven't really
00:15:15.000 written jokes like that i have like jokes in my head but they're not like long enough i don't
00:15:19.600 think like i haven't learned how to do that and he just listened to me and then he was like 0.88
00:15:23.520 well if we're gonna do five for her you should do it for fucking me i asked you first that's so 0.97
00:15:27.780 and then we started laughing i'm not even yeah i was like girl i'm not i'm asking you for advice 0.98
00:15:31.720 and he was like yeah i'll help you if you come do mine yeah and he was like please do mine first
00:15:36.320 because like his was way sooner than the other one i got where was it um his was at the largo
00:15:41.020 Cool, cool.
00:15:41.700 So you did it.
00:15:42.640 You did fine.
00:15:43.460 That was my opening five, yeah.
00:15:44.840 The first time you ever did stand-up was opening Farm at the Largo.
00:15:47.260 That's pretty cool.
00:15:48.200 I think so.
00:15:48.940 That's amazing. 1.00
00:15:49.440 I told my other buddy who does stand-up, he was like, holy fuck, dude. 0.99
00:15:52.080 I was like, yeah, I know, huge pressure. 0.97
00:15:54.060 But it was him and Chris Fleming, which I did not know Chris was going to be there.
00:15:57.680 These are kind of like powerhouses.
00:15:58.860 Yeah, what the hell? 1.00
00:15:59.880 And then my dumb ass is first. 1.00
00:16:01.260 This is a Mount Rushmore of the new. 1.00
00:16:02.920 Yeah, and here I am on stage going, you guys download TikTok?
00:16:07.860 I don't know how to make these long, but here I go.
00:16:09.800 Like, so I'm just going to say a bunch of punch lines and you guys tell me if it hits.
00:16:13.120 Oh, I'm sure people loved you.
00:16:14.380 Yeah, it was good.
00:16:15.340 I can't think of a room that would have been kinder.
00:16:17.740 That's what I told him.
00:16:18.620 I was like, well, and he's like, you're going to be safe with my audience.
00:16:20.840 Like, you know that.
00:16:22.000 And I was like, I guess.
00:16:23.620 And then I told him, I was like, okay.
00:16:25.140 And he asked me to, do you want me to promote it that way?
00:16:27.460 Or do you want to just kind of pop in?
00:16:28.920 And I was like, I'll just pop in.
00:16:30.440 Because I told him, if I pop in.
00:16:32.200 Oh, that's so smart.
00:16:33.460 Yeah, I was like, I would rather pop in because I want to find out if I'm for real.
00:16:38.400 Like, I want to find out if I'm funny.
00:16:39.760 If there are people in there, I love my fans and I know that they love me and I know they find me funny.
00:16:44.460 But I won't hear for real.
00:16:46.560 Like, I think they'll just laugh at anything I say.
00:16:48.760 But I want to hear from people who did not come for me if they find me funny.
00:16:54.300 And it went well, but it still didn't give you the bug of, like, I need to do this every week?
00:16:58.600 Not really.
00:16:59.380 Because when I did it, I think, well, there was definitely places I could have picked up and improved, which I knew.
00:17:05.620 That's your first time.
00:17:06.820 I was like actively editing as I was like telling the jokes.
00:17:10.360 Well, that's what's tough.
00:17:11.240 Well, and also like memorizing it was like a whole nother thing.
00:17:14.420 Even though I was only doing five.
00:17:15.920 Me either.
00:17:16.580 So that's why I think that's why.
00:17:18.460 And then I did stand up again for a different thing.
00:17:20.520 And that was kind of where I was like, I just don't know if this is my favorite thing to do right now.
00:17:25.240 I have so many irons in the fire of things I'm doing.
00:17:27.880 That is also what I tell myself when I'm avoiding something I should be doing.
00:17:30.860 Right, literally.
00:17:31.580 I just don't think it's right in this moment.
00:17:32.820 The universe doesn't need that for me right now.
00:17:34.320 Getting multiple emails about it.
00:17:35.280 I'm like, I don't think that.
00:17:36.380 I don't know.
00:17:36.940 There's like a gut thing.
00:17:38.280 And I think I figured out as I talked through it with Caleb and other people that do stand-up too that I love dearly.
00:17:43.680 I think it was the structure of it because I was like, I'm an improv girl more than anything.
00:17:48.500 I like to riff more than anything.
00:17:50.440 And I don't want to spend the whole set doing crowd work.
00:17:52.800 That's not stand-up.
00:17:53.840 I don't want to do that either.
00:17:54.600 Yeah.
00:17:54.800 So I was like, well, then at that point, I'm just doing a live podcast.
00:17:57.760 I'm sure you've taken this on the road, right?
00:17:59.980 Not this one.
00:18:00.700 No.
00:18:00.960 I do have another podcast with my sister that I do do live.
00:18:04.040 I perform live all the time.
00:18:05.080 Okay, cool.
00:18:05.840 This one's a little more difficult to tour because it's guest heavy.
00:18:09.500 So like it requires talent.
00:18:10.480 So you've got to find someone in the city.
00:18:11.620 Yeah, and it requires logistics and all that.
00:18:13.640 And I hate touring.
00:18:15.220 Do you like touring?
00:18:16.020 I don't really tour, no.
00:18:17.120 I think I'd like to try it.
00:18:18.200 I don't recommend it personally.
00:18:20.060 What's so bad about it?
00:18:20.940 Well, it feels like you're on the run.
00:18:23.320 From who?
00:18:25.140 I don't know.
00:18:25.660 From who?
00:18:25.740 From what?
00:18:26.220 It feels like I'm being chased.
00:18:28.160 Because you go to sleep, you wake up in another city.
00:18:30.900 And you've got to catch a flight.
00:18:32.060 You go to a hotel room.
00:18:32.420 yeah or if it depends if you tour by bus or by plane plane was awful to me because i'm like
00:18:37.380 flying sucks i'd rather do a bus so we did bus like a bus tour which was great the bus was honestly
00:18:42.700 the best part i thought it was gonna be the most difficult part we're like children the bus was
00:18:46.440 fun the bus was awesome yeah it's not performing to hundreds of years no no no it was literally
00:18:51.220 this really cool piece of furniture yeah and i think it's because the bus felt like home and
00:18:55.280 i'm like as extroverted as i am as much as you like to be anchored to this room in this town i
00:19:00.560 like to be at home like more than anything and so living on the road like that it felt like every
00:19:05.060 morning i woke up and i only had enough time to shower wipe everything down and get back in the
00:19:10.120 bus i'm being chased that's why i said i felt like jason born like i had to keep changing my last
00:19:15.620 name i have to keep changing my area code like to kill a few thugs and then yeah for real like
00:19:19.600 yeah for real i'm like you're russian mercenaries what a tour i know it was crazy i was busy i think
00:19:25.520 about that a lot with like the sabrina carpenters of the world and like oh my god chapel rones and
00:19:29.660 stuff where i'm like i would lose my mind like i think like i like performing i like the rush of
00:19:35.320 that i like seeing other places but yeah it's that but on like crack yeah it is it's like there's
00:19:40.360 there's like people pulling you out of the room no for real and they're like we gotta go we gotta
00:19:44.140 go and then when they do those tours too like they do a bunch of press in between like
00:19:48.200 appearances anything up here during that period you don't i think that's why a lot of times
00:19:53.220 celebrities end up seeming they seem like they're lobotomized at a certain point and it's because
00:19:58.140 you literally can only do so much like you can only be so energetic and have a personality like
00:20:04.160 for so long yeah it's it's impossible you're authentic for like two years yeah after you get 0.95
00:20:08.420 famous and then it's like after that you have like your repertoire of shit that you know works 0.73
00:20:12.080 and you just kind of go back to that well when i see an artist announce like a tour yeah this is 0.89
00:20:16.780 like this is a sign i'm getting older it's like i literally look at the dates and i go that's not a
00:20:19.740 lot of time to get from cincinnati you're mapping i literally look at it i just think like god
00:20:24.400 Good luck to you.
00:20:25.040 Hope you don't miss a flight.
00:20:25.920 It's three shows in three different.
00:20:27.180 All right.
00:20:27.640 And I was like, she's going to be okay, I guess. 1.00
00:20:29.320 I'm like, my fucking dad. 0.99
00:20:30.380 I'm like, what am I doing? 0.99
00:20:30.960 I know, and they do like global tours, same thing.
00:20:33.640 Like they're going from Frankfurt to Milan.
00:20:35.400 And I was like, that just can't work.
00:20:36.720 How does that work?
00:20:38.580 I'm not worried about the set list.
00:20:40.000 I'm just like.
00:20:40.400 For real?
00:20:40.800 You're like worried about their timeframes?
00:20:41.640 Do they have a toilet trip?
00:20:42.520 Yeah, I'm like.
00:20:43.180 Got to compress your timeframes.
00:20:44.720 Yes.
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00:23:07.760 Well, what are some pieces of media
00:23:09.840 like what you talked about wanting to write?
00:23:11.620 What are some shows or movies
00:23:12.740 that you've been loving lately?
00:23:14.300 Oh gosh, lately.
00:23:15.440 Whether it's from a writer's perspective or just generally consumption.
00:23:18.100 I'm, like, the worst person.
00:23:19.840 Like, I don't watch as many things as I should.
00:23:21.720 The last thing I loved.
00:23:22.420 Me either.
00:23:23.320 I'm just, like, bad about it.
00:23:24.520 I'll watch – I started watching Mad Men this year.
00:23:26.760 Oh, interesting.
00:23:27.540 Have you never watched it before?
00:23:28.340 Never watched it before.
00:23:28.920 I've only watched a few episodes.
00:23:30.360 One of my parents were super into it.
00:23:31.640 One of my people, yeah.
00:23:32.580 Yeah.
00:23:32.780 I watched the first season.
00:23:34.520 Didn't finish the first season.
00:23:36.200 But everyone – anytime I talked to them, I was like, oh, I'm loving it.
00:23:38.520 I'm loving it.
00:23:39.060 It's the best thing.
00:23:39.500 And I just stopped.
00:23:40.400 I don't know what that is.
00:23:41.640 I don't know what that is.
00:23:42.060 And it's been like, it's been a while.
00:23:43.480 And I'm like, I need to get back into it.
00:23:45.000 And I'm like, no, I probably never will.
00:23:46.440 But Mad Men was great. 0.75
00:23:48.720 Everyone's acting their asses off.
00:23:50.140 Incredible writing.
00:23:51.020 Right.
00:23:51.320 It's great storytelling.
00:23:52.140 That was me with Stranger Things.
00:23:53.600 Like I watched season three.
00:23:57.000 I'm asking my sister.
00:23:58.360 Just season three or up to season three?
00:23:59.480 I only watched season three.
00:24:02.540 Front to back.
00:24:03.100 I watched season three.
00:24:03.920 Front to back.
00:24:04.460 No context.
00:24:05.200 No understanding.
00:24:05.860 No nothing.
00:24:06.040 She was this little girl with the shaved head.
00:24:06.640 Yeah.
00:24:06.840 And I finished. 0.93
00:24:07.600 I was like, whoa, she has powers.
00:24:09.200 Whoa.
00:24:09.900 It was the one where they're in the mall.
00:24:10.960 that was the only one i watched and then at the end i was like wow that was incredible
00:24:16.140 and then my sister was like oh are you gonna go back and watch one and two i was like no i'm
00:24:20.000 never gonna watch this again yeah i loved it though and then and then season five just came
00:24:25.500 out just finished last year that's the end and then i watched the season finale of season five
00:24:29.680 now why well because i want to be involved i want to be part of community it's also like 0.56
00:24:37.600 these fucking like nine year periods that's true like i remember watching the first one i was like 0.64
00:24:42.560 11 i was literally like a child i was a freshman in high school i remember being like this is 0.97
00:24:46.820 awesome and now i'm 30 and they're like the finale is three hours in theaters and i'm like what what
00:24:51.520 we're not done with that yet no it needs to be done sooner no i agree i i literally i watched
00:24:56.100 season five finale because uh i was in ireland like for vacation and like with we were with my
00:25:01.900 sister my other friends and they they had all been watching the show and they were like do you care
00:25:05.900 yeah they were like do you care if we watch it i was like i don't care at all because i yeah i
00:25:09.780 sat in and i and i cried you cried what's going on you know two people's names and i got emotional
00:25:17.600 i was like wow that was like oh my god 10 years like that's me not being a part of any of it
00:25:24.000 me getting swept up in the emotion in the fun of it which i do get that i watched the end of
00:25:28.680 game of thrones never watched an episode in my life i watched really that one i did watch yeah
00:25:32.440 and i and everyone hated it and that's true it was terrible sucks and i was sort of like
00:25:36.060 i'm having fun well i had a i had a good time i was like i should watch this show yeah i literally
00:25:40.000 i joked about it with my my producer amanda who's here too i like about stranger things finale
00:25:44.760 mean having no knowledge at all i was like i'm gonna enjoy things i don't understand
00:25:49.120 i'm gonna enjoy them like i'm gonna enjoy them borderline religious way yeah i'm gonna enjoy
00:25:54.660 them yeah i don't understand it i don't know i don't have the context i don't need it well you 0.75
00:25:58.940 know what it is that i've realized in my life is and this is so pathetic but it's like tiktok brain
00:26:03.280 right we're like couldn't tell you what season what episode but when that girl was like listening
00:26:08.020 to running up that hill right and being like like levitated or something right i watched that and i
00:26:13.180 was like this is powerful yeah i was like this is incredible and that was all i needed and then i
00:26:18.400 was like and now i can talk about it right at the bars and that's exactly what i've done great use
00:26:22.780 of the song i could talk about oh there's so many things i've done that with like i even did that
00:26:26.680 with um love island oh yeah i'm getting clips like you wouldn't believe me too you would think
00:26:31.880 i'm a huge fan but i'm not i've never watched it i'm not engaging either i like i try to watch
00:26:36.500 like a few and i'm like no yeah and they keep feeding me they keep feeding it to you because
00:26:40.000 they need you to watch it what's the premise of love island oh i'd love to tell you so basically
00:26:44.600 they bring in men and women sure i got that i got that far from everyone is straight i knew
00:26:50.060 and that's about it and that they're all straight so that's important too no no no no one there's
00:26:57.720 no ambiguity whatsoever if there is it's not being platformed it's all like under the assumption
00:27:02.020 everyone is straight okay so they bring them in they introduce them differently every season but
00:27:06.360 like like who goes first like whether it's girls first or boys it kind of switches off but essentially
00:27:11.040 they uh they make the number uneven or they make it even so you can't all pair up yeah essentially
00:27:17.560 so it's like five and five you kind of pair up let that way and some people are unhappy some
00:27:22.700 people are happy but why pair up right well because the point is to make it to the end you
00:27:27.200 can't make it to the end unless you're in a couple and they're all pretending that they want to find
00:27:31.100 love but we all know it's so they can be an instagram influencer and that's okay we all
00:27:34.900 know what we know what see it's okay yeah um so now like then throughout the course of the show
00:27:40.500 they have them do challenges or games where they're honestly just dry humping each other
00:27:46.080 They're like, that's really all they're doing and making out.
00:27:48.100 And then they'll bring in bombshells or new men or women.
00:27:51.560 And then it throws off the numbers.
00:27:53.060 And then people will want to recouple if they like someone else more.
00:27:55.780 So it's like musical chairs for.
00:27:57.100 Essentially.
00:27:57.800 Yes. 0.78
00:27:58.360 It's sexual, sexual musical chairs. 0.98
00:28:00.320 Sexual musical chairs. 0.96
00:28:00.940 Yeah. 1.00
00:28:01.320 Do they win prize money at the end?
00:28:02.700 Yes.
00:28:03.120 There's like a hundred grand or something at the end.
00:28:05.100 And are they allowed to touch each other?
00:28:06.380 No.
00:28:06.820 Yes.
00:28:07.500 They are.
00:28:08.040 Yes.
00:28:08.360 They touch each other quite often.
00:28:09.420 Isn't there one where you can't touch each other?
00:28:10.800 Yeah.
00:28:10.960 That's too hot to handle.
00:28:12.440 That makes sense.
00:28:13.000 And that one's even funnier to me because that one is like they have a big pot at the end.
00:28:18.040 And if they do touch each other, money gets taken out from all of them.
00:28:21.160 And it's based on how lewd the act is.
00:28:24.240 Yes, how vulgar the act, yes, and how intense.
00:28:27.400 Do they know?
00:28:29.000 Yes, they know.
00:28:29.680 Everybody knows that there's prize money. 1.00
00:28:31.220 Everybody knows that if they fuck her. 1.00
00:28:32.200 But do they announce like we're taking $10 out because Jimmy and- 1.00
00:28:34.960 Yes, and they say, yeah.
00:28:36.200 It's literally like a little like Siri on like a radio that goes like, oh, they're taking out.
00:28:40.460 We'll be deducting $2,000 because these two people finger banged each other.
00:28:44.480 And then they're like, you're finger banging and you know there's money on the line.
00:28:49.300 Then they start arguing.
00:28:49.620 It'd be better if it was anonymous and they have to be like, who did it?
00:28:52.120 Yeah.
00:28:52.300 And then it turns into like Lord of the Flies at that point.
00:28:54.800 Cause then they're like, oh my God, I can't do this.
00:28:56.500 I can't do this.
00:28:56.980 There's a question.
00:28:57.320 Do you think we've gone too far?
00:28:59.040 In reality TV?
00:28:59.880 Yes.
00:29:00.300 Do you think we've got, it feels like, well, I think because again, the prize now at this
00:29:05.360 point is to be famous.
00:29:06.820 Yeah.
00:29:07.140 it's not even like if you think about like old school dating shows like i'm trying to think like
00:29:11.700 like early years of like oh remember next yeah like good that was good tv but you know how like
00:29:17.360 they went in with it like with this understanding that they're like i'm just gonna get to be on tv
00:29:21.880 so i'm gonna just act however yeah they all felt like actors right exactly but even like i've said
00:29:27.740 this before like a show like jersey shore could never again be recreated because jersey shore
00:29:33.820 they they were so themselves that's why it did well yes now it's almost like the performance
00:29:39.720 of like look how fucking awesome i am is they're playing for social media yeah it's like you're
00:29:44.300 playing to get clipped and stuff and get followed as opposed to like i'm just this insane and i'm
00:29:49.020 young yeah like when i look at jersey shore i'm like i can't believe at the time i watched it i
00:29:53.340 thought they were so much older but they're literally like in their early 20s and no tax
00:29:56.920 on finger banging they could do anything they could do whatever they wanted whatever they
00:29:59.540 wanted they could do whatever they wanted that's why we tuned in week after week year after year 0.68
00:30:03.760 i i love that was like one of the only reality shows i like super fun really fucking loved yeah
00:30:08.300 i think like that came out i don't know how old i was but like i remember kind of being a little
00:30:11.580 snobby about reality tv show and that was the show that broke through for me me too same like
00:30:15.080 hanging out with my friends and saying like yeah let's watch jersey short me too i they had a fan
00:30:19.380 in me i was like this is the funniest thing i've ever seen on television and it's because
00:30:23.640 they couldn't help but be themselves and then they just got lucky being recorded and they feel
00:30:27.380 like they've they've balanced out into like nice adults yeah they've they've really they've really
00:30:31.080 carried too they still have shows on mtv they're doing like family reunion and all that like you're
00:30:35.920 so right about the social media thing yeah it ruins these shows do you watch traders traders
00:30:39.800 is probably my favorite i i don't watch traders but i my sister's a huge fan of it and i have
00:30:44.240 seen it okay i have seen i've seen clips of it and you should pop into a season of that i should
00:30:48.240 they they've i you know i was talking to someone i forget who it was i was talking to these women
00:30:52.500 once it was like kind of like a general one of those meetings and i was just talking more i love
00:30:56.740 talking about gender yeah i was just like i was just talking about anything really at that point
00:31:00.360 but they they were like do you watch reality tv because this is just like something about me 0.77
00:31:05.060 because i'm like a huge raging bitch on the internet um depending on who you ask i was
00:31:09.720 gonna say you've yeah they always they just always kind of assume that i would love to be 0.95
00:31:16.740 on reality tv oh and just be like popping off on people yeah and i think it's because they think
00:31:21.260 my personality is performance yes but it's just an aspect of me like i like sometimes when people
00:31:26.860 ask me like are you just like this all the time like you're just like telling people how it is
00:31:30.420 i'm like yeah well no because that would make me insufferable and i would have no loved ones around
00:31:34.480 me if i was like that yeah yeah but like i was like i also don't hang out with people i hate so
00:31:38.660 they don't pull that out of me ever no you'd be terrible on a reality right that's what that's 0.85
00:31:42.840 why i'm like terrible too i think i would be i honestly think i would be really fucking boring 0.89
00:31:46.140 on a reality show that's the worst part we wouldn't be bad we'd be boring we'd be boring 0.91
00:31:49.560 we'd be forgettable yeah exactly and they i've been asked to host reality things you're kidding
00:31:54.780 like what give me an example oh yeah i'll believe them out um oh my god i just got that one recently
00:32:01.080 why don't you do these things oh because there's no money they ask you for about 90 hours a week
00:32:06.960 and then um i run the risk of being attacked for being involved with any of these people
00:32:11.500 it's like me being like to people that they're like she would love to be on reality tv so every
00:32:19.480 Every time I'm like, I would love to be in something scripted.
00:32:21.600 I would love to be in a movie or a TV show.
00:32:23.880 You want to be an actor?
00:32:24.800 I would love to be.
00:32:25.520 Do you do that?
00:32:26.040 Sorry, I don't know.
00:32:26.580 That's what I'm trying.
00:32:27.320 Okay, yeah, cool.
00:32:28.260 I am trying my hardest.
00:32:29.560 We're all trying to keep going to those generals.
00:32:32.800 Just manifesting.
00:32:33.080 Maybe something will pop.
00:32:33.860 Yeah, I'm doing this before that takes off.
00:32:35.840 I literally have joked, I'm like, well, you could tell I didn't get it yet because I'm
00:32:38.500 still here doing this.
00:32:39.280 Yeah, I'm in the room.
00:32:39.720 Because as soon as I make it, I'm going to forget everyone.
00:32:42.360 That's my plan.
00:32:42.880 You think?
00:32:43.280 Yeah.
00:32:44.000 You don't strike.
00:32:44.440 You don't seem like that.
00:32:45.360 No, I would never do that.
00:32:46.200 I don't see it.
00:32:46.460 I don't see that energy.
00:32:48.400 I think if I got booked in like a big role in something as an actor, I think I would
00:32:52.580 delete all my social media.
00:32:53.820 You think?
00:32:54.400 Yeah.
00:32:54.840 That's kind of smart.
00:32:55.720 Do you enjoy it anymore?
00:32:57.260 I know like.
00:32:58.100 That's a very good question, honestly, to ask.
00:33:00.240 Well, you said something earlier and I meant to comment on it.
00:33:02.480 Yeah.
00:33:03.080 The comments are, I think they are 100% worse than they were like even two years ago.
00:33:07.300 No, you're right.
00:33:07.780 I think something's happening where being online is not.
00:33:10.200 Fun anymore.
00:33:10.760 It doesn't feel like community.
00:33:11.780 No, not at all.
00:33:12.480 Because how old are you?
00:33:13.500 I'm 36.
00:33:14.260 Okay, I'm 30.
00:33:14.740 We're going to have to cut that.
00:33:16.660 No one budged in it.
00:33:19.080 Hey, just make a note.
00:33:20.040 How old are you?
00:33:20.440 I'm 30.
00:33:21.020 Okay.
00:33:21.380 Yeah, I'm going to be 31.
00:33:22.980 So, like, my point being, we've known about the internet, right?
00:33:28.800 So, like, YouTube came out.
00:33:30.700 YouTube, like, started when I was in high school.
00:33:33.640 Like, it was on the precipice of becoming something at the time.
00:33:37.180 And so, like, I was on MySpace.
00:33:39.340 Like, I had to beg my mom for a Facebook, like, when I got a little bit older in high school.
00:33:43.320 my age was like it came when i was like a senior in high school uh facebook yeah okay yeah very
00:33:48.120 like whoa see i was like we're all gonna stay in touch yeah i was like i was like a freshman
00:33:51.380 sophomore so you had to navigate being like like like the gossip and the politics of being on
00:33:55.020 social media in high school i didn't really have to do that it was more so yeah i did a little bit
00:33:58.620 but again even then it wasn't nearly as big of an impact in our everyday life as it is now like i
00:34:04.940 can't imagine being a teenager now with with tiktok and everything i can't imagine but like
00:34:09.580 my point being that like i've known and interacted with the internet for a very long time before the
00:34:15.620 last like five six years so like it used to be nothing but joy like nothing but somewhere to
00:34:22.360 for people to be creative to be funny i always thought of it too yeah like especially music or
00:34:26.820 comedy or whatever you want to be doing exactly and like and even like before twitter became x
00:34:31.960 like twitter was one of my favorite places to go because that was dark that's actually where i
00:34:36.060 first found caleb like way before instagram way before tiktok like i found caleb on twitter because
00:34:42.400 he was so funny on twitter that's where i started doing comedy right online too exactly twitter
00:34:46.740 exactly that was like the first place i actually had any kind of following right because you like
00:34:50.520 wrote jokes yes people chimed in and you found other funny people exactly that's why it was one
00:34:54.560 of my favorite apps for a very long time was so tragic it's awful and that's the dude bought it
00:34:58.980 and it's over and now it's like it became so bad immediately immediately it became like a breeding
00:35:04.640 ground for bigotry me too i deleted mine i think like four years ago you still have facebook yeah
00:35:10.380 i still have facebook because i have an instagram but that's the only reason i have okay but my
00:35:13.520 facebook is is private because it's old yeah like the brand it's not like no i have like a page with
00:35:19.500 my brand but it's like linked to my personal facebook i'm hanging on by a thread to social
00:35:23.580 media i've got i've got instagram and i've got tiktok and i'm like you and me both queen like
00:35:28.000 and that's honestly how i feel too and i think that's why like i just got asked that the other
00:35:33.420 day i i get asked a lot from people who did who have done this job like through the more traditional
00:35:38.920 side like going up the other way whereas i went up through the internet wait what's the other way
00:35:43.140 just traditionally like like doing stand-up doing performing yeah performing like getting in um like
00:35:49.080 short films small things music videos that kind of thing um the more traditional route as opposed to
00:35:54.860 me obviously because i did it more recently it's like i went through the internet and they almost
00:35:59.360 always ask me like how do i if i still like doing it if i still enjoy the internet and and how i
00:36:05.260 deal with like hate and stuff and um i to answer your question this is a very long-winded way of
00:36:10.780 answering your question like i do still love what i do yeah um i don't love what the internet has
00:36:16.160 turned into though yeah i think that's exactly how i feel it's become a place where everybody 0.97
00:36:20.580 wants to be a fucking cop and like yeah isn't that the whole point that we hate cops like 0.97
00:36:25.040 isn't that the whole fucking point like we talked about this yeah i was like i thought we've gone 0.99
00:36:29.180 over this like many times we know what we're supposed to think it's everyone i think now 0.97
00:36:32.780 the gift of virality has really poisoned the well in a lot of ways it's made people feel like
00:36:39.040 if i can go viral even by spreading lies that's worth it to me because at least i get attention
00:36:45.680 i get likes i get clicks even if it's not true even if it's not based in anything real or if
00:36:51.560 it's almost like eating ourselves like the left eats itself a lot oh yeah in that regard it's so
00:36:57.220 boring too that too yeah it's like the same recycled arguments and like same weird comments
00:37:01.960 like i can open a video on tiktok and know what all the comments gonna be yeah yeah literally
00:37:05.460 it's like everyone's trying to be like the smartest person in the room the smartest person 0.98
00:37:09.080 or the funniest person and everyone's really stupid and not funny so you're scrolling through 0.96
00:37:15.080 and you're like oh my god why am i doing this right and it is like 40 and you're like i gotta 0.90
00:37:18.880 And when I first came up on TikTok, like initially I was really resistant to joining because I was older.
00:37:25.620 I was like, you felt too old for TikTok when I first joined. Yeah, I was like a dinosaur.
00:37:29.900 I know I was literally like 23, 24, which felt a thousand compared to everyone I saw on TikTok.
00:37:35.940 Everybody was like 15, 16 years old. Well, that's tough in general.
00:37:38.980 When you get when you get teens doing stuff on your feed, you're like, no, no, no, no.
00:37:41.600 Yeah, for real. That's why I was like, I don't dance and I'm not going to.
00:37:44.400 So what am I supposed to do on here? You know what I mean?
00:37:46.300 yeah it's over i'm oh i'm cooked yeah like the kids say you're chopped and i'm so chopped and
00:37:51.400 unc i'm so chopped and i'm like great unc you're chopped and great unc i feel very like energetic
00:37:56.900 and good at my age but i go on tiktok sometimes i'm like i'm the oldest man alive i'm the oldest
00:38:00.880 man that's ever lived i'm the oldest most unplugged person yeah yeah there are certain
00:38:06.060 yeah there's a certain like tier of joke that i i feel like i can't reach anymore yeah like the
00:38:11.240 six seven stuff was throwing me for a million years it still will like i still don't understand
00:38:15.500 I think the kids are just having fun. 0.99
00:38:17.680 I feel like we did stupid shit that didn't mean anything. 0.99
00:38:20.060 That's true, but even then, sometimes I bring up jokes, 0.98
00:38:24.160 I'm like, do you guys remember this?
00:38:25.180 And everyone's like, mm, I was born in 2003, 0.99
00:38:27.220 and I'm all, forget it, fucking forget it, man, forget it. 0.97
00:38:30.160 I used to get, I don't really engage 0.99
00:38:32.620 with people in the comments that much,
00:38:33.820 but when I started to do pretty well online,
00:38:36.480 I would fight back a little, and you can't,
00:38:38.880 I don't know, I can't do that without coming off
00:38:40.300 as really lame, because then also I would realize,
00:38:44.480 It's like someone with like an anime avatar.
00:38:46.000 I've never seen him in my life.
00:38:47.240 God bless anime, not knocking the genre.
00:38:49.720 But it's just a weird coincidence.
00:38:51.560 It's a weird coincidence.
00:38:52.580 Let's just call it what it is.
00:38:53.720 It is weird that you all have like animated foxes.
00:38:55.920 It's true, yeah.
00:38:56.660 And then you go to the page and you're like,
00:38:57.580 I'm fighting with a child.
00:38:59.220 A child.
00:38:59.720 A literal child.
00:39:00.360 A child.
00:39:01.100 I'm paying bills.
00:39:02.340 I have things I have to do.
00:39:03.920 I can rent a car.
00:39:04.780 Yes.
00:39:05.140 I shouldn't be doing this.
00:39:05.940 I'm a best man in a wedding this month.
00:39:07.300 And I'm fighting with a child.
00:39:09.280 I'm fighting with a child about leftist policy.
00:39:12.400 and I'm like what am I doing
00:39:15.220 it's terrible so that's why I'm like
00:39:17.180 I'll post and then I try to close
00:39:18.400 I feel that
00:39:19.360 yeah I've been and I think that's why they ask
00:39:22.100 a lot of people like yourself ask me that
00:39:24.420 because that's like my whole shtick
00:39:26.480 is like responding to hate 0.99
00:39:27.820 and getting in comments and fucking with people 0.98
00:39:30.580 like in a very real sense but I feel like 0.97
00:39:32.780 on a larger scale I've like almost
00:39:34.740 I'm batting a thousand first of all 0.99
00:39:36.500 with all the people I have fucked up 0.99
00:39:38.580 are just like outright known bigots 0.94
00:39:40.540 so that never really i never really have to go after someone where you know you're on the right
00:39:45.080 exactly where it's obvious there's nothing questionable exactly so there's nothing
00:39:49.360 redeemable about that person so i think in that regard i've been totally fine although occasionally
00:39:55.760 yeah i'll get like men um this was a tip for like the first three years i did this where they would
00:40:01.620 be like oh she's a body shamer like you're body shaming people and i was like okay well what do
00:40:07.900 you call when they did it to me what do you call do would you call that body shaming or would you
00:40:11.460 call it something else yeah yeah yeah and depending on your answer you might be a misogynist but let's
00:40:15.680 just answer it first and that's why it's always like well fighting fire with fire is bad and
00:40:20.740 they're like you can't fight fire with fire technically speaking that's not true and this
00:40:24.140 is me being a know-it-all but it is not it is true ask any person who fights fires in the forest 0.95
00:40:29.180 ask them they're called controlled burns look it up bitch look it up that's why i was like
00:40:32.780 look it up actually you can fight fire with fire actually you can the whole point of a controlled 0.99
00:40:37.220 burn is you burn everything else so it has nowhere to go and that's exactly what i do
00:40:40.420 you're a controlled burn yeah hello i think people admire you for it yeah well duh clearly
00:40:45.140 yeah and that's what i was like and honestly it that works in my favor because it it is one of
00:40:49.680 those things where i think i'm just the only one that was brave enough to do it like yeah to stand
00:40:54.780 up to them in that way in a way that's not i'm not worried about decorum i guess is the thing
00:40:58.980 i feel that way i will say i do feel that way online like yeah when you know you're right you're
00:41:02.880 kind of like well gloves are off i know i'm right right this thing right um it just it's when you
00:41:08.020 get in the more minutiae of it that you're like i'm gonna die i'm gonna die i'm gonna die
00:41:11.860 i don't know if you want to even talk about this but do you get like crazy threats all
00:41:17.260 like oh yes like people yeah oh all the time yeah all the time they've died down quite a few now
00:41:22.920 um like i would say in the last maybe year yeah they've died down a few but oh yeah yeah oh yeah
00:41:29.440 I have, like, active open cases with the FBI.
00:41:32.220 Really?
00:41:32.900 Yes, of course I do.
00:41:34.560 Cash Patel's FBI is on the case?
00:41:37.400 Well, see, maybe that's why it's moving slow.
00:41:39.180 Nothing's going to happen.
00:41:40.000 Yeah, well, that's why I'm hitting a bit of a stall.
00:41:42.520 Because he's in charge.
00:41:43.800 The case has gone cold. 1.00
00:41:44.780 Yeah, because that fucking nincompoop is in charge. 0.99
00:41:47.400 So, yeah, unfortunately, while that dingus is in there, nothing is really going to get done. 0.99
00:41:52.240 But, yeah, I had a guy.
00:41:53.600 Just email at FBI.
00:41:54.660 Any update on the...
00:41:55.680 Hey, guys.
00:41:56.680 Hey, Cash.
00:41:57.180 circling back yeah yeah you seem very like confident and like not really shaken by any of
00:42:04.020 that is that right or is that yeah i would say some days are bad yeah it depends it depends but
00:42:08.940 i i think like for the threats kind of deal um obviously i knew it was it was a possibility i
00:42:16.180 didn't think it would come in the fervor in which it did i guess i should have expected as much but
00:42:20.900 again i'm older so i i figure if it's on the internet it can't it can't be that serious
00:42:25.640 because you're putting it on the internet and you're attaching it i think that was the most
00:42:28.980 shocking thing to me because we grew up in a time where they would say things like be careful what
00:42:33.160 you put online because it will last forever very funny yeah very funny it's hilarious now to think
00:42:38.800 about it now do anything you want online it's true and they nary suffer right and that was
00:42:43.900 something that we like knew growing up so then when i started doing this and i started seeing men 0.89
00:42:50.040 say the kind of shit that they have said in a way that i was like your government name is on this 0.97
00:42:56.520 profile your face your children if they if they have them your your wife if you're married like 1.00
00:43:01.140 that was the part that i think was the most shocking to me because those men were always
00:43:04.720 the most mad because they i've i've had men oh my god i've had countless men email me and be like 1.00
00:43:10.700 um can you take this down i have a job damn no bitch and fuck you and your job how's that 1.00
00:43:16.420 i had one guy say i'm a teacher well that sucks yeah that sucks yeah you probably shouldn't be 1.00
00:43:22.560 in charge of kids and i and he was like i might lose my job i literally responded i don't give a 0.99
00:43:27.000 fuck people really feel brave especially with they shouldn't even be messing with someone like 0.58
00:43:31.600 you you would think it's just crazy well you would think at this point now sometimes like 0.99
00:43:35.760 mess with me i'm a coward i delete requests well now that you've been on here that's not true
00:43:41.140 no no no because everyone that comes to be here no just everyone on here is under my protection
00:43:45.840 by law oh thank god so that's thank you yeah you're under you're under my protection now
00:43:51.340 you've come into my fold i know i feel very lucky to be invited and that and that is i think the
00:43:56.680 case i think with a lot of people who find me on the internet like that love me they're like 0.88
00:44:01.020 um when they sometimes i'll tell them like i'll be like and if anyone fucks with you
00:44:06.060 you just let me know send me that send me that ad i'll take care of it that's so bad and they 0.70
00:44:11.320 laugh like they laugh but they know it's for real they know i'm for real yeah yeah and that's why
00:44:14.760 sometimes i think they don't want to send it to me because they're like it's okay is a lot of like
00:44:19.040 the we're talking about like the body shaming thing yeah is a lot of it like like allies in
00:44:23.040 that way that come and be like i love the way you like clap back at this person and yeah i deal with
00:44:27.260 this bullshit myself yes absolutely well yeah you're using the internet in such a good way
00:44:31.600 you're one of like seven people like truly i don't think anyone should be able like very few 0.97
00:44:36.440 people should get a key to use the internet yeah yeah right for real they everyone else has to go
00:44:40.180 through a test yeah that's amazing they have to do a litmus test do you ever at least like sit
00:44:43.560 back and go like damn i'm doing a good thing like yeah i i think in moments where it feels
00:44:48.760 suffocating like the the internet feels suffocating those are the times where i 0.70
00:44:52.480 revisit like people who yeah really love me or like have sent me i've gotten so many messages
00:44:58.780 about people over the years like how my content has like helped them and changed their lives like
00:45:03.160 i've had people tell me like you know they broke up with their partner who was abusive like they
00:45:07.740 reported their assault like they stood up for themselves like there's so many things that so
00:45:11.720 many wonderful things like it's like 90 99 to 1 like wonderful i know but it's so easy to fix it
00:45:18.300 especially when it comes from people that you do care about and you do care like when you're when
00:45:24.000 it comes from communities that are are nitpicking as opposed to like actually having a problem with
00:45:29.320 something you did they're just like well here's a perfect example on the same team yeah right one
00:45:34.000 time i tweeted um that peanut butter and jelly is the worst sandwich combo of all time and one
00:45:40.340 day you guys will be brave enough to have that conversation with me that's what i tweeted the
00:45:44.160 tweet went super viral i had people responding to that and telling me that i was classist and that
00:45:50.700 was an elitist point of view because only poor people eat peanut butter and jelly which i was
00:45:54.760 like no you saying that is classist you saying that only everyone wants to say something genius
00:46:01.340 about it and i'm like we used to be able before it became x we used to be able to just fire off 0.89
00:46:05.860 these thoughts and that was my favorite part of twitter i could put some bullshit like that
00:46:09.540 on the internet and then we could giggle and laugh about it and like and then i enjoy like
00:46:14.280 a friendly banter i love a good like discussion i love a good like well actually this like whatever
00:46:20.560 and then we can make jokes yeah hello we're all joking i feel like i've like put myself in a
00:46:24.680 corner because i talk about politics a lot when i'm doing my comedy yeah and i'll do like a video
00:46:28.800 about like i don't know like just like the weather in new york and i'm like wow you're not going to
00:46:33.600 talk about the wildfire in this region of black and i'm like dude i don't know i just want to make
00:46:38.540 a video about french fries or whatever i'm like okay i feel like i've put myself in this place
00:46:42.740 right wow staying silent on the uh conflict of the and i'm like well what am i well yeah well
00:46:47.400 i i know like get register to vote don't bother me right well yes yeah that is another one of
00:46:53.940 those things where it's like i understand wanting to follow and support people that are aligned with
00:46:59.120 you yeah that makes sense when you know they're aligned what at what point are you going to be
00:47:05.860 like okay maybe this is too much and that and i just talked about this on the last episode i just
00:47:09.920 recorded where it's like there's no good faith anymore that's like it's that that's what it is
00:47:14.860 it's like it's understanding that in order for you to do a call in which is what they love to 0.98
00:47:19.340 call that shit they're like this is a call-in not a call-out a call-in doesn't involve insults or 0.98
00:47:25.100 antagonizing that's not a call-in that's just an accusation not a call-in right it's bullying at 1.00
00:47:31.040 that point it's bullying it's so funny that we're just talking about all this stuff while knowing
00:47:34.580 that we have to like play the game well and it's because we survive it is such a that is the only
00:47:39.440 way i will survive i think is is what i've come to find out being able to make fun of the media
00:47:43.720 yes and be able we'll be able to talk about it and process it out out loud and like on a public 0.95
00:47:48.800 platform because even in therapy like i just talked about this with the fucking rock i interviewed 0.81
00:47:53.460 the rock for this show and uh you said that i thought the rock was your therapist i just imagine 0.94
00:47:58.900 low-key he was low-key he was therapizing me in that episode was he in this chair no no no he
00:48:04.440 was not I filmed it somewhere else I wish I could have gotten him in the chair he just didn't have
00:48:09.440 the time unfortunately but I bumped the rocks yeah sorry so you're yeah I was like I cleared
00:48:15.580 him for you yeah bad move sorry no it's okay even with him I was talking I chatted about this with
00:48:22.220 him as well where it's like I think the worst part is uh knowing that it's not true like when they
00:48:28.060 when people just say things they're like are you aren't you someone who did this once and you're
00:48:33.360 like, no, that wasn't me. And they're
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00:49:31.500 so you're evading accountability uh what um no that's just i didn't do that thing and they're
00:49:38.400 like right so you're okay so you don't like call-ins they can't be a call-in if it's not true
00:49:45.380 you're too popular yeah you're too successful bummer like yeah it is the problem i get weird 0.57
00:49:51.920 shit i don't get people writing stories about me and coming up with things i did in my past that 0.71
00:49:55.700 don't exist yeah i got one deep in the comments i know that's true and like and and honestly i think 0.96
00:50:01.260 it's just a marker of me being on the internet like being so internet like facing yeah i think
00:50:06.840 is the reason why that finds me back to your acting career back to acting book a big role
00:50:10.920 yes you're keeping all this you're living this way you're dealing with the collins i think yeah
00:50:15.420 i mean it depends like i i would like give it to the team yeah i would i agree i would i would like
00:50:21.040 to get to a point where i can interact with social media in a way that doesn't scare me
00:50:25.580 or make me upset um which is just kind of posting and going like there's a lot of people I think
00:50:30.740 that do that now um purely for the health and safety of their mind and I and I understand why
00:50:37.240 like the internet can be as beautiful and amazing and connective as it can be it can also be
00:50:42.480 extremely like magnifying pointed and divisive like it's and it makes it really hard to enjoy
00:50:49.960 yourself like to enjoy life to enjoy like um just general life experience like i was talking about
00:50:55.620 this with my last guest as well like sometimes when people are extremely nitpicky like that
00:51:00.340 um like we were kind of joking about them you go and you look and they're so young
00:51:04.180 like nine times out of ten they're like born in the 2000 and on that's what bums me out
00:51:09.220 me too also the people like talking about like body stuff i feel like so many of the comments
00:51:13.180 are always like body's incredible your body's to you how do i get that skinny how do i see i feel
00:51:17.420 like we've gone a complete fucking 180 culturally right totally body positivity like pc stuff yeah
00:51:23.100 obviously with the state of like comedy and stuff yeah it's like there's been this extreme pushback 0.97
00:51:27.800 on like like woke yeah culture right whatever the fuck that means whatever yeah to conservatives
00:51:32.680 that means something completely but it's like i opened my phone this past week and have you seen 0.64
00:51:37.180 this challenge where people were doing like accents like saying the same phrase in different
00:51:41.160 accents no i saw the same phrase in different like tones like they're like sarcastic happy
00:51:46.000 Yeah, no, okay. I'll show you some shit. Oh my god white people do like Chinese accents Indian accents and the comments are like 0.99
00:51:53.500 Oh, the comments are like you killed this or something like they're kind of all joking
00:51:56.680 But I'm like this would have gotten like someone like us fired. No, no, this is racist
00:52:01.680 So yeah, yeah, and I'm like believe it or not. I don't want to hear how you guys do that
00:52:05.200 People aren't like famous, but these videos they're are doing really well
00:52:08.800 They're uploading them. Yeah, you and I would wouldn't be caught dead trying to know fuck no 0.99
00:52:13.480 and that's where that's where i'm saying like there is no we're in a weird time yeah there's 0.98
00:52:17.580 no barometer anymore i feel like it's so it's been so skewed and i know i know it's because 0.98
00:52:23.300 the world is so awful like i know it's because the government is so fucking terrible the 0.98
00:52:26.720 administration's fucking terrible it's like they're making life harder so it's easier which 0.98
00:52:30.900 is ties back to reality tv and like have we gone too far yes and i do think it's because like 0.99
00:52:36.340 especially in reality tv like i think people hyper fix it on reality a lot when the government is
00:52:41.760 terrible and this has got this is very true over time if you look at other really popular jersey
00:52:47.240 shore is another great time so it's another time where it's political turmoil is happening and it's
00:52:51.540 awful so everybody shifts and looks at something where they're like i can hate this person because
00:52:57.360 this is reality tv so this is who they are and so it gives me almost like an empowering feeling
00:53:03.520 that i can find community and hating someone that i don't know and i've never met and like sure you
00:53:09.060 can make your assumptions based off reality tv sure but we all know reality tv is not real it's
00:53:13.320 edited to entertain pretty produced and it's real absurd like in its nature it's absurd but it's one
00:53:18.660 of those things where i think that's how social media has become too it's now an evergreen thing
00:53:23.020 where you can fling mud at anybody yeah and it feels good it feels good because i hate my life
00:53:27.820 and i hate my circumstance and i hate everything that's going on this makes me feel good though i
00:53:31.740 don't know i don't have any kids i don't know if you like want to have kids one day but i'm like 0.68
00:53:35.760 how do you i do not how do you yeah okay cool yeah yeah i don't think i do either but yeah how do you
00:53:40.520 talk to a kid about like like i've thought about that like my friends like yeah just only a little
00:53:46.200 older than you yeah well you're significantly older than me matt my friends are like starting
00:53:53.380 to have kids yeah in new york and like they're all like i've got friends with like two-year-olds
00:53:58.100 four-year-olds and like they're not aware they don't know who the president is they don't even
00:54:01.800 know about the concept of a president really no not at all yeah but they're gonna learn lucky
00:54:05.200 them yeah lucky just getting to that age where they're gonna start realizing there's like a
00:54:08.700 government yeah people talk to each other and and i'm like yeah i don't know how i would talk to
00:54:12.840 like a seven-year-old right now and be like no it's all good don't worry yeah don't worry don't
00:54:17.180 worry the world's burning but don't worry don't worry no i i agree with that i've i've thought 0.99
00:54:21.540 about that especially with teenagers i've been like i i in high school right now holy fuck i 0.88
00:54:26.380 could not imagine being in high school right now being at that kind of that age right now
00:54:30.220 is so hard and i think that's why even when i'm so about how people have no media literacy
00:54:37.920 whatsoever they have no discernment whatsoever even though that makes me want to look it's so
00:54:42.500 frustrating i still have a lot of empathy for them because when i see that they're really young
00:54:47.140 i think to myself a lot of them are covid kids so there's that too now played a huge role in
00:54:51.920 the development of a lot of them yeah but i also think i'm like you feel this way and you feel so
00:54:57.220 righteous in this because you haven't actually gotten to live life like for real that where it
00:55:02.820 wasn't in a tumultuous time and it wasn't um in this extremely tech driven society either and i
00:55:09.980 think that's why people are so quick to judge and write people off so quickly like i've never seen
00:55:14.260 such a black and white judgment of people that are not being obviously terrible like if someone's
00:55:19.080 being obviously terrible obviously they're terrible yeah but it's like when people do
00:55:22.820 things that you're just maybe not the biggest fan of it could be the end immediately yeah 0.99
00:55:26.680 immediately it's like okay you're MAGA yeah and you suck and you probably hate immigrants that's 0.96
00:55:32.480 probably what you do too yeah none of which is true and none of which is rooted in anything true 0.98
00:55:36.200 but it becomes that I think snowball yeah because the only life they've lived is through other people
00:55:41.960 on TikTok yeah so I was like you've never even gotten to experience life in a way where you like
00:55:46.700 love your friends through their mistakes like you love you fall in love with someone that maybe
00:55:51.220 isn't the right person for you you guys have never had those kinds of experiences so you haven't been
00:55:56.660 able to like develop discernment yeah or the ability to understand like not everybody is a
00:56:03.980 terrible person when they make a mistake yeah this is you know what i'm saying and that's why they 0.96
00:56:08.180 like me bitch i'll tell you what no this is good i think you've nailed it you've nailed it it's 0.95
00:56:13.760 I think and I and I do think it's it it helps me to extend that empathy towards them so that I don't feel like I'm going fucking insane. 0.97
00:56:23.240 Yeah, that's what I try to do with the stuff I write is like, yeah, because it's very like critical of like the Republican Party and stuff.
00:56:29.640 But it comes from a place of like, it's more of like, can you just be like normal for real?
00:56:34.680 Because I think it could all be so simple.
00:56:36.800 Exactly. It's like, yeah, that's the kind of energy I try to put behind it instead of being like the Cheeto is being bad again.
00:56:42.280 It's like, no, I'd rather like be like, hey, dude, like maybe lives away from liberal cities.
00:56:48.100 Like, don't you don't you realize this is bad?
00:56:51.100 No, of course they don't.
00:56:52.040 Look me in the eye.
00:56:53.320 Tell me you love what's going on.
00:56:54.960 And I think that's I don't believe right.
00:56:56.780 I don't believe right.
00:56:57.820 And I think have you seen that Into the Manosphere documentary?
00:57:01.480 No.
00:57:02.000 On Netflix.
00:57:02.740 Louis Thoreau.
00:57:03.300 Yeah.
00:57:03.540 Yeah.
00:57:03.760 It's really good.
00:57:04.520 I highly recommend.
00:57:05.340 OK.
00:57:05.840 There's some of my main ops in that.
00:57:07.420 All your ops.
00:57:08.100 Yeah.
00:57:08.260 Yeah. 0.67
00:57:08.420 Like some dudes I've actually fucked up for real online. 0.91
00:57:10.980 yeah and they and they hate me like for real they've gone on record saying how much they hate 0.95
00:57:15.320 me um didn't mention me in this video though that's fucked up uh but in that documentary 0.89
00:57:20.040 it's very interesting to watch like how they kind of move because this is not this is not the this 0.77
00:57:27.720 is not the case for all bigots trust me when i say this is not the case but there are some men
00:57:31.780 in that documentary where he actually asked them after spending like weeks with them he's like do
00:57:36.340 you actually believe some of the stuff you say because some of the stuff you say you're not
00:57:40.460 living in in your private life yeah you're just saying it online yeah and then and then some of 1.00
00:57:46.000 them will be like well that's just something i just say which like because they're a dumb bitch 1.00
00:57:51.200 so that's one but two it's also it's literally because i'm like so you're either an actual 1.00
00:57:56.980 terrible person who got lucky and started recording yourself or you're pretending to be a terrible
00:58:01.540 person so you can make money which one's worse i can't tell which one's worse because they're both 0.99
00:58:06.100 fucking awful in different fonts and that's that's where i think that's where i think that black and 0.99
00:58:11.580 white shit should be applied is there when you're talking about people who genuinely love others and 0.99
00:58:17.280 care about others and then they do something that maybe feels a little left of center of what you 1.00
00:58:21.880 believe they should be doing yeah then it turns into a write-off where they're like no now you're 0.96
00:58:26.660 a bigot yeah yeah no now i fucking hate you so yeah the thing with the man is fair i need to 0.91
00:58:31.460 watch this documentary you should watch it it's good i liked it to me how much power these guys 0.99
00:58:35.460 have right and they don't really suffer any consequences no never no never it's hard it's
00:58:42.520 hard to watch yeah i agree how is this possible i agree i think the same thing and it's it's also
00:58:47.360 i think indicative of the time we're in as well because it because it's so tumultuous politically
00:58:53.360 and it's awful uh women i think more than ever in the last five to ten years especially
00:58:58.700 have really really like pulled away from men in a lot of ways and they've become extremely
00:59:03.620 independent they've become even more radically feminist than they already were so that's where
00:59:08.640 that's like men are experiencing a loneliness issue yeah men are put in the corner right and
00:59:13.400 and it's just like uh the same thing where there was like a a movement in korea where they just
00:59:19.040 women just refused to have kids they just refused to have kids like they and and sleep with men at
00:59:23.840 all but like just they're not having kids anymore and then they had like a birth rate shortage for
00:59:28.000 the first time in the history of korea right i'm telling you well and that's one of those things 0.97
00:59:32.560 that's what i'm doing is like waking everyone up i'm like telling women like you don't have to
00:59:36.640 settle for garbage no and you and you can live your entire life unpartnered and be happy fulfilled 0.96
00:59:43.460 successful you can have sex you can be desired you can be sexualized all of those things without 0.99
00:59:48.580 any man tied to you you can if you'd like yeah if you would like and then it's like at that point
00:59:52.720 then it's just whoever you so choose can be in your life yes and believe it or not some men have 0.99
00:59:57.280 said when i say that because they're stupid they'll literally watch that and they'll be like 0.99
01:00:02.140 so she's just profiting off women being single she's telling women to be single the guys are 1.00
01:00:07.520 like worried about the women being single that i don't i've never understood where it's like
01:00:11.960 you're gonna die alone with your cats or whatever that's like such a thing sounds awesome it sounds
01:00:15.900 cool yeah oh no don't threaten me with dying alone write that in a novel oh no don't do that
01:00:23.720 i would hate that yeah or being harassed and yeah i know what's my bad ways to die yeah i was gonna 0.52
01:00:29.600 say well and that's what i've talked about um because i've defended fat people very very very
01:00:34.900 many times um and i've talked about like fatness as a whole like the idea concept the perception
01:00:40.560 of fatness and i've talked about how like being fat is not the worst thing that could ever happen
01:00:45.620 to you yeah what if you had cancer yeah that's actually a lot worse than being fat so it's like
01:00:50.240 it's one of those words when you put it in perspective you're like oh this is not the
01:00:53.760 worst thing that could ever happen to me this is not the worst thing that anyone could ever say
01:00:56.700 about me and it's one of those things where i because i get called fat and ugly constantly by 0.95
01:01:01.020 men and like ugly lie fat depends on who you ask right like because i'm big fat fatty compared to
01:01:07.160 some people and then some people i'm not so it's one of those things where it's really subjective 0.96
01:01:10.980 yeah it's really it's a it's a uh reframe that's what my therapist calls those reframing
01:01:16.520 might be the rock might be the rock allegedly i think these people because i get when i get into
01:01:23.360 in my dms with like republican dudes they always have uh first of all they're always private
01:01:27.200 accounts which like right coward yeah then their then their profile photo is like it's usually them
01:01:31.400 on a dock with like like on their knee with like their wife and like six kids yeah yeah and i think
01:01:37.020 like part of me really deep down thinks that like they they are unhappy and they're like that's why
01:01:42.440 they get so mad that like single women aren't having kids and having families because they're
01:01:45.640 doing it and they're like no you gotta do this i was forced to do this you gotta do this too and
01:01:49.300 This is how we live and be good people.
01:01:51.320 And it's like, what?
01:01:52.440 If you're that aggressive, you're not happy at home.
01:01:54.680 For real.
01:01:55.480 I agree.
01:01:55.600 And I'm not saying it's like a closeted thing, but it's like there might be something else
01:01:58.200 going on if these people are so obsessed. 0.87
01:01:59.380 No, you hate your wife. 0.77
01:02:00.220 I guarantee you. 0.99
01:02:00.940 You hate your wife. 1.00
01:02:01.180 Yeah, you hate your wife. 0.99
01:02:01.840 I guarantee. 1.00
01:02:02.220 And you might hate the gender across the board. 0.99
01:02:03.900 Right, right. 0.62
01:02:04.360 Like, yeah, all across the board.
01:02:05.760 Yeah.
01:02:06.040 Yeah.
01:02:06.480 Anyone.
01:02:07.160 Yeah.
01:02:07.880 Even Caleb has joked about that, too, where he's like, if I ever get hard for the money,
01:02:12.420 I'm just going to go down a Republican comedy route.
01:02:15.260 Yeah.
01:02:15.460 If I want to buy a yacht or something, if I want to do something crazy.
01:02:18.080 He's got to hurry.
01:02:18.580 Now's the moment.
01:02:19.300 It's happening now.
01:02:19.860 Yeah, the window's open right now.
01:02:21.520 Yeah, that Roseanne window is wide open.
01:02:24.100 You know what I'm saying?
01:02:24.840 Jump right through that, huh?
01:02:25.700 Fred and I always talk about if we just lost it all hard for money, no compass, we would
01:02:30.260 just go on Fox News, and we were like, I guarantee I could become the most successful Fox News
01:02:34.520 contributor in one year.
01:02:35.160 Oh, hell yeah.
01:02:36.180 In one year.
01:02:36.960 Oh, yeah. 1.00
01:02:37.600 They'd eat me up if I just started saying whatever dumb shit. 1.00
01:02:39.680 No, for real, anything. 0.99
01:02:41.000 Matt's joining us again. 1.00
01:02:41.660 I'm like, fuck it. 1.00
01:02:42.380 Fuck with me. 1.00
01:02:43.520 Look at that guy. 1.00
01:02:44.380 Me too.
01:02:44.940 If I got so desperate to be relevant and famous and make money, I could do the same thing. 1.00
01:02:50.300 But I would do one of those, like, I'm a former feminist. 1.00
01:02:54.240 And I've learned why it's so harmful.
01:02:58.600 I lived in New York City for 14 years.
01:03:00.200 I had to leave.
01:03:01.240 It got too crazy.
01:03:02.540 Yeah, that's me deprogramming.
01:03:04.040 They let too many of those people. 1.00
01:03:05.120 Yeah, I literally go down the trad wife route. 0.99
01:03:07.420 Oh, my God. 1.00
01:03:07.920 Yeah, I just go down that route.
01:03:09.260 And then if I really get hard for the money, I'll start doing that.
01:03:11.920 Dark.
01:03:12.420 Yeah. 0.81
01:03:12.660 But an option. 0.99
01:03:14.940 yeah right honestly i'd rather i'd honestly for real i'd rather honestly just fuck off into 1.00
01:03:19.600 oblivion i would rather do that than honestly go down the trad wife route yeah pick up a trade 0.99
01:03:24.060 oh yeah that's so true that's such a good point we need a fucking air we need air traffic 0.97
01:03:28.860 controllers don't we don't we planes aren't there's a teacher shortage there's a nurse shortage 0.98
01:03:34.240 there's all kinds of tower at lax i'll do that for a living oh hell yeah i'll save lives every
01:03:38.840 day even when i was like living in fear of the internet in the beginning like more so just like
01:03:44.840 the magnitude with which i was being like amplified i was like this is a so many eyes
01:03:50.100 like constantly and it was it's kind of upsetting to me uh but this is my dream job i was like i i
01:03:54.540 love to be in entertainment i love to entertain i really want to act i want to write i want to do
01:03:58.620 all these things so this is like a dream for me but i do have to like make peace with what i
01:04:03.180 that you're always gonna be right commented on it i've thought no matter what like if i end up
01:04:07.740 getting to whatever that next level looks like right you can't control the narrative no at all
01:04:12.420 to a certain point you can't and that's like a big thing for me is control i have a control issue
01:04:17.540 according to my therapist yes oh sure according to my therapist the rock yes yeah getting huge
01:04:21.700 shots whatever you're paying them right for real um yeah i i talk about her constantly um yeah but
01:04:28.500 yeah like working through what i've had to let go of is has been probably one of the harder parts
01:04:34.880 of doing it but when i was first like you know doing the just the internet stuff i had maybe
01:04:40.160 just started the comment section and I was getting nervous uh my fiance was like I was like well what
01:04:45.220 if like what if it all goes away like tomorrow and then he he was like well then we'll go back
01:04:51.320 to being happy in our lives like we were oh wow because we were because I was so happy yeah right
01:04:56.680 yeah yeah he got me turns out one's good yeah alert the church elders one's good we found yeah
01:05:03.440 we found we found the one so uh but yeah he he told me he's like we'll just go back to living
01:05:08.780 our lives we were so happy before this happened what does he do if you don't mind me asking he's
01:05:12.020 a uh personal trainer yeah see if you said podcast right i'd be like i'm done we can't
01:05:19.000 all be podcasting no i like no for real there's no more there's no more space so every day he like
01:05:23.760 pushes people to be their best self yes literally him doing that to me yeah him motivating me like 0.88
01:05:29.440 i think i gotta cut this part from the fucking interview for real no he has been yeah he's um 0.83
01:05:36.040 he has been one of those guys and even like that's great when i first started making content like 0.99
01:05:40.660 the first thing men told me were like oh you're fucking fat and ugly and most likely single 0.99
01:05:45.900 wrong yeah and then they see what he looks like and they're like oh he's probably ugly 1.00
01:05:49.500 no he's gorgeous man yeah he is and he's tall and smart and handsome it's real bummer yeah it's 0.94
01:05:55.740 fucking bummer he's off the market yeah he's off the market um it's just a bummer that like he's
01:06:00.380 he's handsome and it's a bummer for men who hate me like when they see him that is that is a great 0.99
01:06:04.620 i've i've literally had it would matter if he wasn't no if he wasn't yeah but but it is that
01:06:09.940 is an ultimate trump card of like i know well especially i'm going home to this and you're
01:06:14.860 yeah even on a literal scale him being um like just optics wise like the the picture of masculinity
01:06:22.700 that they like think is awesome like they think men who look like him feel like he does feel like
01:06:28.460 they do about yeah yeah about all stuff yeah like yeah if you didn't talk to him you wouldn't
01:06:31.720 necessarily assume yeah so like that i think that's the biggest sneaky progressive man that's 0.98
01:06:37.680 fun i know i've had he's had thousands of men be like you know hey like i really fucking hate your 0.94
01:06:44.160 girl but like you look good dude do you have any like tips can you imagine a more cuck message to 0.99
01:06:50.380 send another man hey i think your wife's a bitch but like how'd you get the delts man do you have 0.99
01:06:55.740 like a do you have a routine or like what's the deal there all these sad men just want to be strong 1.00
01:06:59.840 and cool big and strong yeah because i think they're convinced that that helps with women
01:07:04.240 yeah they're like oh well women love this and then women are can't be my personality that's
01:07:08.260 the funniest part it's like it's my triceps no sorry danny it can't be me well and that's funny 0.80
01:07:14.440 because i i always think like let's just say you did have everything that you think women want 0.98
01:07:18.460 right like height hairline fucking legs money you're in shape you got big hercules packs and 0.99
01:07:24.280 a six-pack and you're so awesome yeah and she still isn't fucking with you the list is actually 0.99
01:07:29.680 really short then of why they don't like you it's just you it's like the essence of you pick up a 0.98
01:07:34.280 book and yeah even caleb caleb said on the show he's like ask a question and what and wait for
01:07:39.680 the answer yeah if you do that like women love that amazed by that people are amazed by the just
01:07:44.580 uh yeah the ability to listen it's crazy because i feel like i've never really thought about that
01:07:50.680 much but then like you'll meet new friends and they'll be like oh so nice hanging out you like
01:07:54.500 you actually like asked us questions about our lives and you're like what's going on like is it
01:07:59.380 phone brain is it just like people are like they're just thinking about like tiktok or they're
01:08:03.100 thinking about like their next thing they're gonna scroll on and yeah honestly probably but i think
01:08:07.240 this is like a newer theory i've been cooking everything so it's funny you bring that up
01:08:10.700 i i think people want to be asked questions which is not new but it's almost like they're
01:08:18.380 practicing in their mind the quippy thing they would say if it got put on tiktok yes like if
01:08:24.100 it got and i'm like this is a normal human conversation like there's no cameras here
01:08:27.580 there might be some legs to that that's what i'm saying that way sometimes because of podcasting
01:08:31.400 too becoming so prevalent as well yeah i think that people are and this happens all the time
01:08:36.120 with me when they're like i could like honestly if i had the time i could do that too like i just
01:08:42.420 like if i had the time like i could but you couldn't like not not everyone can and i think
01:08:47.680 that's why people like you know when when that's saying they say when they're like people love to
01:08:52.020 talk about themselves so like if you ask them questions they'll they'll find joy in that yeah
01:08:56.140 but that's like an age-old thing but i think in more recent conversation if it feels like you're
01:09:01.640 being talked at a lot because i've been to a lot of events and stuff whether they're like all
01:09:06.520 influencers or it's like all like big celebrities or it's a mix of the two yeah there have been many
01:09:11.680 times i've had conversations where i'm like i haven't said anything once i've been sitting
01:09:15.980 here listening yeah i'm just going you've done a lot of uh like red carpet stuff i have yeah
01:09:22.460 what's that experience like it's i feel like it's high risk low reward as far as like
01:09:26.520 i've seen people get eviscerated for doing these things yeah oh yeah part of me kind of wants to
01:09:30.720 do it you should i mean well you should log up there you should just like call them up i think
01:09:37.680 Yeah, yeah, it's my mom.
01:09:39.160 Go into SNL and give them your answer.
01:09:41.660 Just, mom.
01:09:43.480 Yeah, that's such an older generation thing.
01:09:45.580 But did you, like, I'm sure you've done many at this point, right?
01:09:48.480 Right, yeah.
01:09:48.840 I've definitely seen some clips.
01:09:49.900 I don't know what events.
01:09:50.700 But, like, do you enjoy that experience?
01:09:52.360 Because I feel like I would love getting the gig.
01:09:55.640 Yes.
01:09:56.020 And then I feel like being there.
01:09:57.080 Because, as you know, I don't watch TV to completion.
01:09:59.100 Right.
01:09:59.540 And I think if actors came up to me, I'd be like, oh, God, what do they do?
01:10:04.880 I don't know.
01:10:05.100 I'm actually on record extensively talking about how much I never watch new things for the most part.
01:10:10.560 So how do you cover that?
01:10:11.400 Because now give me like a podcasting tip because I'm just starting my podcast.
01:10:14.340 Oh, yeah.
01:10:14.660 I would love.
01:10:15.140 Yeah. 0.98
01:10:15.200 How do you handle when someone's like you don't really know their shit, whether it's a red carpet or it's like in here? 0.99
01:10:21.020 I think. 0.99
01:10:22.040 Yeah.
01:10:22.520 Well, yeah.
01:10:23.020 In here.
01:10:23.620 I know.
01:10:23.960 For real.
01:10:24.300 There's like how does anyone have the time to watch it all?
01:10:27.280 I think for me and you have this because I can I can tell because we've been talking now for a minute.
01:10:32.720 Yeah.
01:10:33.040 Yeah.
01:10:33.140 um it's like again it's listening and interpreting like i feel like a lot of times what they like to
01:10:39.280 be asked and what they always get asked are two very different things so a lot of times even like 0.82
01:10:45.140 because award season i've covered twice now like extensively i've done every fucking award show you 0.84
01:10:49.000 could possibly fucking think of like oscars and stuff yeah i've done the oscars three four times 0.95
01:10:53.000 three times oh my god one two three no four times four times a lot yeah it's a lot um that carpet's 0.98
01:10:58.300 fucking insane and they still to this day have no air conditioning what's that about that's crazy 0.83
01:11:03.440 um yeah i've done globes i've done emmys i've done actor awards which used to be sag the sag awards 0.97
01:11:09.400 like that one's my favorite one yeah and i'll say and i think at that one i and i've surmised this
01:11:15.600 now after like having done it a few times like that one especially their chill like all talent
01:11:20.460 is in a good mood because they kind of picked each other so it's like they love each other
01:11:24.560 it's like the yeah they're not the academy yeah and they're not and they're not like fighting with
01:11:29.300 the academy or trying to like perform or or whatever like to a certain extent they don't
01:11:33.300 have to like meet these in crazy invisible standards of the academy whereas that like
01:11:37.840 sag the sag awards like they have a good time they're real loose at that one like they have
01:11:41.500 a lot of fun there are you at sag no if you can believe this feels crazy i know i've done quite
01:11:46.720 a few things well actually i think recently i just recently like qualified to apply but i'm not in
01:11:53.800 I've done
01:11:55.040 being like
01:11:55.940 and what were you in
01:11:57.320 I'm gonna talk
01:11:58.160 I'm gonna talk
01:11:58.980 to the president
01:11:59.660 after this
01:12:00.380 I'm gonna have to
01:12:01.280 call up
01:12:01.800 a cop
01:12:03.440 just kidding
01:12:04.400 okay cop
01:12:06.140 no um
01:12:07.080 I've done commercials
01:12:07.860 more than anything
01:12:08.520 well you're acting
01:12:09.180 like you've never
01:12:09.620 acted in anything
01:12:10.200 yeah well
01:12:10.880 I've never been in
01:12:11.860 anything like
01:12:12.960 scripted
01:12:13.720 I've never like
01:12:14.400 gotcha
01:12:14.820 like as far as I can
01:12:16.100 that's not true
01:12:17.360 that's not true
01:12:17.880 actually
01:12:18.300 well I was just
01:12:19.820 recently in something
01:12:20.800 that was scripted
01:12:21.880 I'm in strange
01:12:23.200 I'll tell you, I'll tell you, but this will have to be bleached. I was in the recently. Oh my God. Congrats. Thank you. But I was like, I was like a background person. So, and I did have lines. I'll say that. So that was scripted. So that was the first thing. Hopefully that's my big break.
01:12:40.740 It's not nothing. Yeah, it's not nothing. You're doing a comedy role in a show. That's like the hottest show of the moment. Hopefully they don't cut my scene. So I guess we'll see.
01:12:50.060 we say this now it comes out it's just for some reason it's black redacted what happened i'm
01:12:54.980 redacted out of it weird for real what would they do that's so strange yeah for real but i
01:13:00.100 influencer one but going back to your question about carpets i think uh i think just generally
01:13:08.080 understanding why they're there like for what piece of art yeah and then um but typically on
01:13:13.360 carpets the good thing about that is like this is not me saying don't do your research because you
01:13:17.760 should do your research but the good thing about carpets is you got about 15 seconds oh it's so
01:13:23.060 you yeah so you feel that quick no and you can't you just can't get into the nitty-gritty of
01:13:28.200 anything they're in so you got to be real like snappy about it so yeah you look great yeah they
01:13:34.220 always want to talk about who they're wearing because they're always being sponsored by someone
01:13:37.040 that's like another thing i hate asking but it's one of those where it kind of helps warm them up
01:13:41.500 a little bit but i like to think of fun silly questions that like are relative to what they're
01:13:47.680 doing and why they're there but it's also not something they've they've been asked two billion
01:13:50.940 times especially when you get to the oscars because the oscars is their last stop essentially
01:13:56.060 like of a three month run yeah and they're feeling a little at that carpet but if you talk about it
01:14:04.820 in a way where it's something fun like at this year's oscars i was like tonight's the night of
01:14:08.560 best uh if you could give an oscar to best crafty who would you give it to that's fun and they're
01:14:14.860 like oh oh my gosh i love and then yeah you know at the actor awards i asked the same thing i was
01:14:19.800 like the actor awards had a big name change this year if you could change your actor name to
01:14:24.020 anything what would it be that's good and then they're all oh so it's like i think questions
01:14:28.520 like that work silly for 15 seconds yeah and they work and then i do like the whole snack bit too
01:14:33.300 which is huge for them like they they love a good snack or whatever yeah i bring snacks i used to
01:14:38.120 bring a big ugly tote bag snacks yeah i bring snacks yeah maybe you haven't been watching yeah
01:14:43.360 no i'm sorry i'm just kidding don't yeah i bring i bring i do bring snacks um that's part of my
01:14:49.680 bit with them but it's one of those where i'm like as someone who has been to carpets not like at the
01:14:55.820 same way they have been i'm like you almost never have time to eat before you get there because
01:14:59.980 you're especially uh if you're in glam or anything like that it just takes fucking forever and so 0.80
01:15:05.220 you're i always go like i end on that fun question so i'm always like you know we don't get to always 0.92
01:15:11.920 eat before these things i did bring snacks would you like one sure and they're always like they're
01:15:16.180 always like oh my god yeah i would love one do you do you get nervous doing stuff like that
01:15:21.020 honestly no yeah what's that about i don't know i don't get the vibe that you yeah you get nervous
01:15:27.160 at anything no and i think the only time i've ever like truly been nervous was when um i met
01:15:33.160 Beyonce oh for obvious reasons what do you mean Beyonce you well but like where'd you meet her
01:15:37.920 what was the context I just met her privately I didn't that nobody was recording it she's just
01:15:41.780 my everything she's everything to me she's the sun dinner like what do you mean no no no I went
01:15:45.860 to it privately I went to it I went I meant in the sense it wasn't recorded or anything it wasn't
01:15:49.960 like for social like she she threw an event for her hairline sacred and so I got invited to the
01:15:55.860 event they said no plus ones and it was real strict and I and I don't you had to know yeah 0.72
01:15:59.640 I don't go to things that don't have plus ones because I'm like, I'm not going to go by my fucking self unless unless it's something like that.
01:16:06.280 And then one of my friends got invited.
01:16:07.760 So we went together and I just thought she was just going to be there. 0.96
01:16:10.660 I didn't I was like, she has to be there because like there's no fucking way. 0.65
01:16:13.340 And they didn't send the address until two hours before the event. 0.71
01:16:16.660 Yeah. 0.99
01:16:17.000 So then they sent it to everyone in through an encrypted fucking link. 0.99
01:16:20.520 So it was like all kinds of shit at that point. 1.00
01:16:22.440 Yeah. 0.99
01:16:22.680 Yeah.
01:16:23.000 Like she has to be there. 0.61
01:16:24.180 So we did see her from afar.
01:16:26.040 Yeah.
01:16:26.340 And that was more than enough for me.
01:16:27.780 Yeah, that's great.
01:16:28.200 Cause I don't need to, it's, I don't know.
01:16:30.760 It just was freaking me out.
01:16:31.920 I was like, I was like, I can't, it's probably for the best.
01:16:35.300 I don't see her and then I don't need her.
01:16:37.420 And then they ended up taking us to a back room.
01:16:39.460 And then my friend who I was with Brittany, who loves her like I do.
01:16:42.720 And she was like, Oh my God, dude, what do you think is going to happen?
01:16:44.720 And I was like, I don't know, but lock in.
01:16:46.340 Yeah.
01:16:46.680 I was like, we need to get it.
01:16:48.060 It was funny because we were standing.
01:16:49.180 You felt like you were losing.
01:16:50.060 For real.
01:16:50.380 You were starting to lose the plot.
01:16:51.320 When we were standing in this back room, we're waiting for the door to open.
01:16:55.120 we were both standing there and we were kind of making small talk a little bit but then i was
01:16:59.460 like honestly dude i can't even think straight i can't talk right now yeah and she was like me
01:17:02.400 either so we just stood in silence like i'm just like getting myself together i was like okay i
01:17:07.540 need to make sure i'm cool and chill and so awesome like i was just thinking like yeah i'm
01:17:12.860 gonna be awesome did you have a conversation with her yeah we did we chatted for a little bit like
01:17:15.820 five five five ish minutes i would say that's the only time i've ever been nervous what about you
01:17:20.500 Do you get nervous?
01:17:21.300 I don't – it depends.
01:17:22.680 Not really.
01:17:23.680 No?
01:17:24.260 I don't like to be, like, sitting around waiting for the thing for a long time.
01:17:27.480 Yeah.
01:17:27.940 Like, that always gets me a little, like, can we just do the thing?
01:17:30.440 Like, sitting around, I just overthink what I want.
01:17:32.200 It, like, amps it.
01:17:33.100 Yeah, especially for, like – if I was, like, sitting around forever waiting for that, I think I'd be like, what is this?
01:17:37.520 What am I doing again?
01:17:38.000 Yeah, you would have hated that then because I sat the first day for about 14 hours.
01:17:42.200 Yeah, yeah.
01:17:42.820 Didn't put me on camera once.
01:17:44.280 Ugh.
01:17:44.680 And they said, and I'll see you tomorrow at 7 a.m.
01:17:47.180 And I said, all right.
01:17:48.420 And you're like, I'm better than –
01:17:49.840 And I will be here.
01:17:50.680 Starting to get a little video about it. 0.99
01:17:51.180 Yeah, I start acting like s***.
01:17:52.780 No, we got invited, my girlfriend and I got invited to an event for a whiskey brand. 0.91
01:17:58.000 Okay.
01:17:58.420 And it was like in this really hip bar below 30 Rock.
01:18:00.940 Nice.
01:18:01.540 And it was, I don't know, we'll have to cut this.
01:18:03.980 I don't know, probably doesn't matter.
01:18:04.940 But like, it was the whiskey brand owned by Paul McCartney's daughter.
01:18:08.900 Oh.
01:18:09.400 And the invite was like, come enjoy our new blend of scotch whiskey.
01:18:13.020 Right.
01:18:13.720 Stick around for a very special musical guest. 0.95
01:18:16.760 What the hell?
01:18:17.700 We were like, Paul McCartney. 0.77
01:18:19.160 It's got to be Paul McCartney.
01:18:19.800 He's going to be there going off.
01:18:21.880 And we're going to get a private concert with him.
01:18:23.440 Yeah.
01:18:23.900 And it was very, it was the same kind of stuff.
01:18:25.360 It was like, they didn't really tell you like a lot about the invitation.
01:18:28.000 Yeah.
01:18:28.180 They just said it was like.
01:18:28.660 You're just kind of assuming.
01:18:29.360 They said it was like near 30 Rock.
01:18:30.640 Yeah.
01:18:30.840 It was like in that area.
01:18:31.600 So I was like, Paul McCartney.
01:18:32.640 He's got to be.
01:18:33.340 He's probably hanging out with Lauren upstairs.
01:18:35.000 For real.
01:18:35.400 I was going to say.
01:18:36.300 And he's going to come down.
01:18:37.140 Yeah.
01:18:37.320 He's coming straight from the writer's room.
01:18:38.540 And it's his daughter's thing.
01:18:39.840 Yeah. 0.99
01:18:40.020 So it's like, what a git.
01:18:40.780 It makes so much sense. 0.96
01:18:49.160 and we're drinking and we're getting a little buzz
01:18:51.000 and God bless this man
01:18:53.440 love him 1.00
01:18:53.960 John Batiste comes out with that fucking 0.99
01:18:57.100 plastic thing and he's like 1.00
01:18:58.940 and I look at my girlfriend
01:19:01.300 and I go I don't think Paul's coming
01:19:03.180 me getting edged
01:19:04.720 I don't think it's Paul
01:19:05.640 when the saints go marching in
01:19:07.800 and you could feel
01:19:09.000 he was good he's amazing
01:19:10.260 but you could feel the room being like
01:19:13.480 hey what the hell
01:19:15.300 I don't think we're getting let it be tonight 0.98
01:19:16.600 hey what the hell
01:19:17.920 oh yeah hey okay no for sure very funny that is like the funniest entrance i've ever seen
01:19:23.880 because everyone was kind of like oh look at her out and then when he came out with the thing
01:19:28.200 you know that plastic thing i'm talking about right it's like a plastic keyboard that he blows
01:19:31.960 into it sounds insane he's like and it'd be funnier if the intro they were like and we know
01:19:39.460 you love paul mccartney and everyone's like yes so get ready for not paul mccartney have you ever
01:19:46.340 watch the commercial breaks of colbert and we have something and trust me when i say you're
01:19:51.520 gonna love it okay you're gonna love that i don't want to talk that guy too much because
01:19:56.400 he is really nice and he's god the expectation that was set yeah yeah you're all well i got
01:20:02.600 edged thanks for that um your girlfriend's like hey don't invite me to these things anymore
01:20:06.040 i was like it's our last one i promise well that that story is actually a perfect pivot to close
01:20:12.380 us out we're gonna do some fun facts for you yeah we do have some okay so this first one says you
01:20:18.600 have had a collection of temp jobs oh yeah including a mailroom assistant at an architecture
01:20:24.180 firm yeah a linen startup company that's correct and a bag resale startup well you're the man a man
01:20:31.000 of many startups yeah yeah i'll go wherever okay okay okay entrepreneur yeah yeah the architecture
01:20:37.540 firm was awesome because I went there it was supposed to be like three days okay and this
01:20:42.140 guy's name was Willie who was the mailroom guy and he was like he spoke really quickly he was
01:20:47.180 like an older guy yeah and he's like so you're good for the next three months right like that
01:20:50.740 was the first thing he said I was like I thought this was three days he goes no I'm about to go
01:20:53.340 into surgery tomorrow and he's like you're gonna run the mailroom for three months and I was like
01:20:57.700 congratulations yeah I got like promoted you've just been promoted and I still think about that
01:21:02.220 guy because when I worked at this mailroom at this it was a big architecture firm in midtown
01:21:06.000 manhattan and people would come up to me all the time really like hey i need to like i need to
01:21:10.320 ship these things and i was like i have no idea what i'm doing but everyone like didn't hate me
01:21:14.280 for that so i just kind of like dicked around and like personality higher oh yeah oh yeah me too i
01:21:19.840 did that for like a whole summer it was oh period yeah that's fun every time i think of a mail room
01:21:23.540 i think of elf when he's like getting drunk in the mail room not that far off like but it was just me
01:21:29.020 but it had that look like it was kind of dingy yeah and like underground when they needed help
01:21:34.640 Right.
01:21:35.160 I was like, I don't know.
01:21:35.800 And you're like, I can tell you a joke, though.
01:21:37.560 Yeah.
01:21:37.780 I can't mail this, but I can give you a joke.
01:21:40.000 Yeah, I remember logging into, like, Instagram on their desktop computer.
01:21:43.980 And I would just sit there and pray no one came over.
01:21:46.060 Yeah, for real.
01:21:46.940 You're like, well, my job's pretty much done.
01:21:48.600 Yeah.
01:21:49.000 That was a good run.
01:21:50.160 This next one says, you attended the 2013 SNL live taping hosted by Paul Rudd and One Direction.
01:21:57.500 That is correct.
01:21:59.340 That's crazy.
01:22:00.520 Yeah.
01:22:00.860 What a coveted place to be at the time.
01:22:03.020 Yes, yes. 1.00
01:22:03.200 In 2013, One Direction was that girl. 0.63
01:22:05.100 No, they were that girl.
01:22:06.200 On top of the world.
01:22:07.140 Well, have you ever been to SNL?
01:22:08.720 No, I haven't, actually.
01:22:09.740 You haven't been to SNL?
01:22:10.060 No, in person, no.
01:22:10.940 That surprises me.
01:22:11.660 It's like they give a lot of tickets away from people that do standby outside.
01:22:15.340 Yeah.
01:22:15.800 And normally that's like comedy nerds.
01:22:17.900 Yeah.
01:22:18.120 But when you have a guest like One Direction or like if it was like a K-pop band or anyone
01:22:23.000 that has like a huge fan base.
01:22:24.540 Yeah. 1.00
01:22:24.940 Nothing but young women. 1.00
01:22:26.240 Yeah. 1.00
01:22:26.620 And so it was just like loaded with like teenage girls. 0.88
01:22:29.680 Which is like if you're a comedian, that's who you want to be. 0.90
01:22:31.920 Yeah.
01:22:32.160 Yeah, double dip for them.
01:22:34.340 The thing I remember most about that was it was a pretty loaded episode.
01:22:37.060 They had, I think, a Will Ferrell cameo because Paul Rode was there.
01:22:41.060 Oh, I bet because it's probably one of their biggest ones at the time
01:22:44.320 because One Direction was there.
01:22:45.520 Yeah, it was a huge show.
01:22:46.600 Crazy.
01:22:46.780 But I remember a lot of things just not playing.
01:22:50.300 Because it was like everyone's there to see if Harry walked into a sketch
01:22:53.480 and it came out.
01:22:54.080 It's like, ah!
01:22:56.040 Not laughing at any other joke.
01:22:57.440 Yeah, it was a fun one.
01:22:58.000 They're like, okay, yeah, that's funny.
01:22:59.360 Show me the boys.
01:23:00.260 Bring me the boys.
01:23:01.520 You know what?
01:23:01.960 other SNL I was at that's way crazier what I was at the dress rehearsal for Kanye West and Adam
01:23:08.200 Driver when Kanye West freaked out on the live one oh and did his rant you know I'm talking about
01:23:13.520 yes of course I do of course I remember cast I'll stay on stage yes trying to like take my hat from
01:23:19.420 me and blah blah blah I saw him at dress rehearsal with my cousin and we are the biggest Kanye fans 0.76
01:23:25.520 uh we were were at one point we see him address rehearsal he fucking crushed and i'm i'm on cloud
01:23:32.440 nine i'm watching it with my cousin who's like younger cousin he just moved to the city i got 0.76
01:23:36.280 him in yeah and we're like can you believe we're watching kanye oh we go to a bar afterwards and
01:23:41.320 like we're telling everyone dude kanye crushed it it's so cool you're gonna love it and then
01:23:47.080 everyone's like reading tweets they're like dude apparently he's like holding the cast hostage
01:23:50.740 And we're like, no, that's not the Kanye.
01:23:52.600 Wait, wait, what?
01:23:54.560 He was awesome.
01:23:56.160 We still joke to this day that we saw the last great moment.
01:23:59.460 Yeah, he witnessed it right before the break.
01:24:02.240 Dressed and live where he like, yeah. 0.98
01:24:04.180 I was like, damn, we caught the last moment. 1.00
01:24:06.700 Damn, of him being normal and not evil. 0.99
01:24:09.520 And now it's like, you can't even like, it's so sad. 0.99
01:24:11.540 That's you being like, oh, that's like if you were like, yeah, Armie Hammer's my favorite actor of all time.
01:24:18.040 He was really cool to me.
01:24:19.140 Yeah, he was, what do you mean?
01:24:20.400 He was so awesome.
01:24:21.520 He didn't threaten to eat me or do anything strange.
01:24:23.960 He said, what?
01:24:24.720 Oh, yeah.
01:24:25.120 We look like crazy people at the box.
01:24:26.720 Didn't you say you saw Kanye?
01:24:27.960 They're all pulling up Twitter.
01:24:28.860 And I'm like, they're like, no, no.
01:24:30.240 I don't remember saying that.
01:24:33.220 Yeah, he was so good.
01:24:34.140 And he's my best friend.
01:24:36.420 Anything he says, I agree on it.
01:24:38.080 I'm the biggest fan in the entire world. 1.00
01:24:40.220 Meanwhile, he's up there waxing poetic about some evil shit. 1.00
01:24:44.620 Madness. 1.00
01:24:44.940 Oh, man.
01:24:45.460 That's crazy.
01:24:46.320 Madness.
01:24:47.180 That's great.
01:24:47.960 Those are the two you've been to?
01:24:49.280 I've been to a couple others, but nothing that I would even remember.
01:24:52.740 Nothing that had that kind of fervor.
01:24:54.040 That's the only thing I remember so explicitly.
01:24:55.820 Well, yes, of course I would too. 0.99
01:24:57.700 Shit. 1.00
01:24:58.100 Oh, okay. 1.00
01:24:58.900 This one says that you played Officer Donnie Jones on five episodes of Law & Order SVO.
01:25:04.540 Yeah.
01:25:05.000 False.
01:25:05.820 False?
01:25:06.060 No, I'm joking.
01:25:07.080 No way.
01:25:07.980 I was going to say. 0.99
01:25:09.340 If that was that detailed, I was like, you're pretty seriously crazy. 0.99
01:25:12.380 I fucking love that show. 0.99
01:25:13.880 You do? 0.99
01:25:14.320 Law & Order SVO?
01:25:15.040 Hell yeah.
01:25:15.220 Okay, that means a lot. 0.99
01:25:16.120 Mariska Hargitay?
01:25:17.100 Yeah.
01:25:17.300 Yeah.
01:25:17.400 She's wonderful.
01:25:18.240 Yeah.
01:25:18.460 She's wonderful.
01:25:19.280 That is one of my most cherished New York experiences. 0.99
01:25:23.540 I fucking bet. 0.99
01:25:24.680 I was going to say. 0.99
01:25:25.620 It was really cool.
01:25:26.480 A lot of funny story.
01:25:27.540 I mean, Mariska is really nice.
01:25:30.340 Everyone in the cast is super nice.
01:25:32.080 That was my first ever like TV acting thing.
01:25:34.440 First and maybe last.
01:25:36.520 I thought about it first and I was like, wait.
01:25:38.780 Not that I really think about it.
01:25:40.020 How was Ice-T?
01:25:41.520 Very, very nice.
01:25:42.320 He was nice.
01:25:42.660 Yeah, we got makeup together once.
01:25:44.280 Oh, nice.
01:25:44.740 We were unrelated to the show.
01:25:45.820 We just got to lay out together.
01:25:48.280 yeah I went to Ulta
01:25:49.460 no no we were like
01:25:50.640 in the chairs together
01:25:51.480 and his
01:25:52.840 I remember his
01:25:53.760 phone text
01:25:54.660 thing was a
01:25:55.600 Legend of Zelda
01:25:56.260 opening a treasure box
01:25:57.960 sound effect
01:25:58.560 and I remember going
01:25:59.160 huh
01:25:59.420 interesting
01:26:00.140 nerd 0.99
01:26:00.400 yeah dork 1.00
01:26:00.980 nice nerd 0.98
01:26:02.080 that's funny
01:26:03.160 I interviewed him
01:26:03.820 at the Emmys
01:26:04.540 last year
01:26:05.780 he was super nice
01:26:06.600 he was nice
01:26:07.220 but I could tell
01:26:07.840 that he was
01:26:08.440 deeply irritated
01:26:10.500 and I think it's
01:26:11.220 because it was like
01:26:11.780 90,000 degrees
01:26:13.200 like where we were at
01:26:14.320 at the time
01:26:14.800 which I understood
01:26:15.340 temperature changes everything
01:26:16.200 it really does
01:26:17.200 and I was like
01:26:17.900 and i remember at the end he wasn't very um he wasn't very fun like he didn't really and honestly
01:26:23.400 when i read that energy i don't try to be fun at all i'm just i keep it real standard yeah let me
01:26:28.480 get you out of here yeah exactly and then at the end um i have another bit that i've been
01:26:34.000 workshopping but not a lot of award shows like when i do it not gonna stop me so like you doing
01:26:38.680 i'm gonna ask for forgiveness um no i bring this giant jar that says tips on it so at the very at
01:26:45.140 the very end i'm like i literally go and so if you have any tips uh that'd be great you're doing
01:26:50.200 well obviously you're here you're here at the emmys so you're doing pretty well and if they say
01:26:54.520 like if they say like i don't have cash i go well you could pay me in compliments what was your
01:26:58.020 favorite thing about talking to me today that's funny what was your favorite people don't like
01:27:02.000 that no well i think award shows don't really like it they're kind of like and then and then
01:27:06.980 if they refuse to give me money or well actually i'll just say with ic i did it he was like oh
01:27:11.820 yeah he pulls out a huge wad of cash and then he's like flipping off all these hundreds gets
01:27:18.300 to the center gives me like five ones and i was like you don't want to give me one of those funny
01:27:23.980 what are you hard for the money yeah yeah and then and then he was he didn't laugh and i went no 0.52
01:27:28.140 worries hey no worries yeah dumb bit hey you know what hey no worries have a great time inside sir
01:27:34.340 detective tutuola it was it was an honor i don't think i ever had a scene with him no i'm trying 0.84
01:27:40.000 of think like yeah it's just like it's such a well-oiled machine there yeah she kind of like
01:27:45.380 runs the show shit like i remember i remember doing one scene that i had to report to her what 0.94
01:27:50.760 was going on with like a hostage situation right and i was like i like come out of the restaurant 0.99
01:27:55.760 where the hostage is and i'm like they're in there like we're they're holding them down or whatever
01:28:00.120 and she's like great and that was all i ever did i always had like three lines where i was basically
01:28:04.220 like giving exposition about something yeah yeah and we did the scene once and the director like
01:28:08.440 was giving notes to Mariska and the other detective.
01:28:10.780 I can't remember her name.
01:28:12.260 And I was like, oh, cool.
01:28:13.840 Like, that's great.
01:28:14.400 And I thought I was, like, in the clear.
01:28:15.520 I was like, you crushed it.
01:28:16.880 And the director came up to me and he goes, what's your name?
01:28:19.340 What's your name?
01:28:19.700 I go, Matt, Matt.
01:28:20.260 He goes, Matt, just doing way too much.
01:28:25.060 And all I said, all I said was like, yeah, the hostage is in there.
01:28:30.080 You said, yeah, less you, more Mariska.
01:28:32.120 Just, just wait.
01:28:33.780 What's the break?
01:28:34.720 I was like, I said five words.
01:28:36.180 Oh, got it.
01:28:36.780 So then I'm sitting there by, like, my tree where my mark is, and I'm like, all right.
01:28:40.720 How do I give less?
01:28:41.880 Matt, get it together, Matt.
01:28:43.560 Dial it back.
01:28:44.440 Dial it back.
01:28:44.980 This is a moment.
01:28:45.780 Would you go over there with an accent or something?
01:28:47.440 I don't know.
01:28:48.180 I was like, what's it doing?
01:28:50.580 Yeah.
01:28:51.080 I'm going to make it count.
01:28:51.980 Whatever it is, I'm going to make it count.
01:28:53.140 I did learn.
01:28:53.760 Listen, closed mouths don't get fed.
01:28:55.440 You never know.
01:28:56.760 Sometimes you just got to throw it out there and see if they pick it up.
01:28:59.040 Officer, the hostage.
01:29:01.080 Officer, he went over there.
01:29:02.200 He must run in there.
01:29:03.420 You're doing a transatlantic accent?
01:29:05.060 Yeah, yeah.
01:29:05.400 i could not have been more like i'm sure i just said it like just a little too intense yeah the
01:29:10.160 hostage is in there but on camera that probably looked insane and they were like yeah this kid's 0.89
01:29:14.760 never done it yeah he's like yeah why don't you calm the fuck down yeah next take how's that 0.94
01:29:18.860 make me learn yeah because i mainly just did like stand-up and and shit like that right you kind of 0.96
01:29:23.940 have to be like big right for real and i was like no the camera does pick up like every little like
01:29:28.020 that's true that's a good point chill on camera i know i've had to like um when i did an i did an
01:29:34.620 nba commercial a couple years ago uh with kelly roland that's cool which is very strange but she
01:29:40.720 was very nice just for the league just promoting yeah it was for the league it was to promote the
01:29:44.380 new season literally and they had me season 200 for real another show i have not watched you know
01:29:51.240 uh but they were wonderful i really love working with the nba they're so great but they
01:29:55.440 yeah uh in the commercial um because and i think it's because like i talk to camera often and like
01:30:01.940 obviously when you're recording on your phone you're just doing like this thing yeah so i i
01:30:06.000 knew i my one line was um follow me kelly that was my one line not easy and they were yeah right
01:30:12.520 listen and i was going follow me kelly follow me and then i was like they wanted me to close
01:30:17.080 a surface laptop because surface is a sponsor they wanted me to close it and then close the
01:30:21.300 end and be like follow me kelly like that's what they want to forget how to close yeah and i was
01:30:24.900 like okay perfect perfect like follow me kill me like i was like practicing and then i remember 0.61
01:30:28.960 like one of the takes and i'm sure i'm sure you feel the same way i do like if i fuck up a take 0.96
01:30:33.660 yeah i feel like the dumbest girl alive oh yeah i'm always like how to be a human everybody wants 0.98
01:30:38.440 to kill me and they hate me on this set yeah yeah because i because i'm a dumb because you're not 0.96
01:30:43.000 the person exactly i'm like i know no one wants to ever i'm last on the call sheet and i'm being 0.88
01:30:47.620 annoying i remember i had to take two coffees to my partner yeah cop car and the door's closed
01:30:52.560 she's like waiting for me and i go before we do it i ask the director like how do i open this i
01:30:57.840 Literally go, how do I open the door with the coffee?
01:30:59.360 So he goes, how would you open the door with the coffee?
01:31:01.640 I was like, noted, got it.
01:31:02.720 Then it feels like a trick question.
01:31:04.540 He's like, have you never opened a door?
01:31:06.020 Have you ever put a coffee down?
01:31:07.020 I was like, got it, you're right.
01:31:08.280 Well, girl, I don't know.
01:31:09.220 Maybe you have a different creative outlook.
01:31:10.880 Yeah, they booked me and they were like,
01:31:11.960 has this kid never lived a day?
01:31:13.940 Yeah, you do feel like a Sim.
01:31:15.460 What do I do with them? 0.96
01:31:16.660 He's like, just figure it out. 1.00
01:31:18.380 He's like, open the fucking door. 1.00
01:31:19.940 You are so unimportant in this room. 1.00
01:31:21.500 Yeah, even with mine too.
01:31:23.080 Like when they would do like a pan thing,
01:31:25.060 like they had a big like arm on the camera
01:31:27.120 and it was moving it across really fast
01:31:28.700 and so they wanted me to like
01:31:30.700 be looking forward
01:31:31.880 look at her
01:31:32.820 say my line
01:31:33.800 and then look back
01:31:34.820 and then one of the takes
01:31:36.420 I like looked at the camera
01:31:37.680 because it went right here
01:31:38.740 and then I went
01:31:39.220 and then I was just watching it
01:31:40.820 you think you're Jim
01:31:41.520 and I did it
01:31:42.140 yeah and I didn't
01:31:43.020 exactly
01:31:43.600 NBA
01:31:44.160 I know
01:31:45.660 and I one time
01:31:46.640 I did it
01:31:47.100 and I didn't think anyone noticed
01:31:48.560 don't know why
01:31:49.480 there's about a thousand people
01:31:50.760 on the set
01:31:51.280 everyone at Video Village
01:31:52.580 was like
01:31:52.940 oh Jesus Christ 0.65
01:31:54.660 who is she again 0.95
01:31:55.720 and then the director
01:31:56.680 it was such a big set
01:31:57.900 that the director
01:31:58.580 literally like had a mic
01:31:59.920 that would talk to extras
01:32:00.920 and everything
01:32:01.340 so he like comes over
01:32:02.900 he's like okay cut
01:32:03.820 and then he walks over
01:32:04.600 he goes
01:32:04.940 and he turns off the little mic
01:32:06.000 he goes
01:32:06.320 can't look at the camera
01:32:07.120 and I go
01:32:08.040 yeah and he goes
01:32:08.860 you've looked at it twice
01:32:09.600 you can't look at the camera
01:32:10.360 don't look in the camera
01:32:11.000 pretend it's not there
01:32:11.720 and I was like 1.00
01:32:12.640 stupid stupid stupid 1.00
01:32:13.540 nothing makes you more aware 1.00
01:32:14.600 of the camera
01:32:14.900 yeah it makes me feel very
01:32:18.160 that's so funny
01:32:19.560 but it's alright
01:32:20.380 we live and we learn
01:32:21.720 we're learning actors
01:32:22.720 we're learning on the job
01:32:24.360 we're SAG eligible
01:32:25.160 slash
01:32:25.640 okay last one it says that you wrote your own 80s sitcom theme song for stranger things
01:32:31.580 that's crazy i brought up stranger things and i did not know that about you oh my god yeah i did
01:32:36.080 do that you did this is back in the twitter days oh yeah and did it do well i don't think it popped
01:32:42.420 no i don't think it popped that is a deep dive for her i was like trying so hard to do because
01:32:48.800 i do like music and i was trying to find a way to bridge the music and the comedy totally so
01:32:52.780 whatever was like trending i'd be like maybe i'll do like a fake theme song for yeah like hell yeah
01:32:57.360 i don't remember how it went but uh that's not a challenge but like uh but yeah no i was always 0.63
01:33:02.640 doing goofy shit like yeah doing little theme songs honestly that's so funny i had no idea
01:33:06.420 that you did that and i brought up changer things yeah look at us i kind of i forgot about it that 0.97
01:33:10.160 was back when i was throwing shit at the wall you know period well at least you have the music
01:33:14.000 capability to do so i don't have that they're lucky i don't have did you ever play an instrument 0.90
01:33:18.060 or no I played the flute oh yeah that's in like middle school that's hard to do comedy with yeah
01:33:23.460 Lizzo's got that tip already so what am I supposed to do I did play the flute but I'm not really
01:33:28.720 musically inclined at all like I can't really sing or play instruments at all like and when I
01:33:33.840 say I can't sing I mean no I'm like me as like a musical like yeah I am a huge yeah that's why
01:33:41.080 I've said before I love musical theater I just don't have the chops yeah yeah so like I'm I'm
01:33:45.880 i'm a real rudy situation i don't know if you've ever seen the movie rudy i've seen in a second
01:33:49.480 yeah the the sports movie but that's me with the music industry like i'm just like i play football
01:33:54.620 yes i have yes and i have all the trappings and the will um none of the talent like that's how
01:34:00.900 i feel about music tough but honestly they're lucky like do you think hold on do you think
01:34:04.580 you could get there i think if i think something really blows up and we're like we're hiring a
01:34:09.740 vocal coach we're like no i think i'm gonna undershoot and then if one day i do sing and
01:34:13.900 everyone's like what is she talking about she's amazing i think it's just working in my favor
01:34:17.100 yeah we're aiming for the what is she talking about right so like i shoot so low that whatever
01:34:21.420 i land it'll be more impressive but it's good i can't sing i think if i could sing i probably
01:34:25.760 would have put out like three albums by now you think and i've only been doing this for a few
01:34:28.980 years so figure that one out i think i think it would make me i think god hit me with funny and
01:34:34.160 entertaining because like singing would just be too much yeah you'd be terribly annoying yeah
01:34:38.620 it'd be annoying it would be me having a maga rant at the end of snl yeah yeah that would be 0.98
01:34:42.740 me doing that shit drew was so good at dress right then she put the hat on and we're like no 0.88
01:34:47.620 all of a sudden the energy changed almost immediately but anyways to wrap us i would 0.70
01:34:53.160 like to ask you if you have any advice for any aspiring entertainers whatever medium you've
01:34:59.320 tried all the mediums in the world yeah yeah and you've been like it's been like throwing darts
01:35:04.060 no i'm saying you're no i'm saying you're good at all of them you've been able to try all of them
01:35:08.900 Almost overcorrected
01:35:09.640 Well that's why I said with me
01:35:11.260 I can't try music
01:35:12.000 Because I'm bad
01:35:12.560 You know what I mean
01:35:13.400 So I'm not even
01:35:13.940 Oh well I am trying DJing
01:35:16.060 I'm like they're gonna let me
01:35:17.500 In there one way or another
01:35:18.300 It's been nice 0.68
01:35:18.920 If white guys can do it
01:35:20.440 I can do it too
01:35:20.980 I feel very confident about that
01:35:22.200 So I'll figure it out
01:35:23.060 Hell yeah
01:35:23.440 I can YouTube that
01:35:24.460 You want to DJ?
01:35:25.880 Yeah I would love to
01:35:26.620 We should have got to this earlier
01:35:27.380 I would love to DJ
01:35:28.360 Why?
01:35:28.980 What's the
01:35:29.360 I love to
01:35:30.160 I love a good cue of music
01:35:33.760 Like I love to curate
01:35:35.040 A really nice vibe
01:35:36.220 Like a playlist
01:35:36.880 Yeah
01:35:37.240 I can take it to the next level
01:35:38.080 Yeah, so if DJing could count as just queuing, I think I would kill.
01:35:41.760 I think nowadays.
01:35:42.300 Or right now I need to learn how to.
01:35:43.720 I don't think you have to do that.
01:35:45.680 I'm going to, though.
01:35:47.060 Oh, no, but okay, you want to be going.
01:35:49.540 No, I mean, I will if it mixes the song, but I don't want to scratch records for real.
01:35:54.040 You know what I'm saying?
01:35:54.800 Like, I'm not run DMC.
01:35:56.120 No.
01:35:56.780 So I can't do that.
01:35:57.700 I don't have that talent.
01:35:58.760 DJ, I can see that for you.
01:36:00.020 Yeah.
01:36:00.380 I can see the headphones one on.
01:36:01.600 Hell yeah.
01:36:02.460 That's what I was like, at the boiler room?
01:36:03.940 As you're working on it.
01:36:04.440 Yeah. 1.00
01:36:05.100 I said, I'll be at that Doe Lab. 1.00
01:36:06.560 Yeah, that Coachella. 0.95
01:36:07.300 behind you that's the dream tricks mattel's doing it i can fucking do it i can do whatever that 0.97
01:36:10.860 bitch does yeah i'm just kidding yeah good luck on that journey thank you i appreciate it but 0.98
01:36:15.680 i'll be back to my question with you any advice any advice for any any entertainer like whatever 0.92
01:36:20.060 creative medium they really want to explore you know being sincere i think get the work out there
01:36:25.900 as quickly as you can yeah because then you'll know what you like doing and you'll know how to
01:36:31.060 improve totally not working and you can't just sit in your room being like i know i could write
01:36:36.020 a novel right you gotta just do it right and a lot of things will suck but then it'll probably
01:36:40.700 get better it's hard to keep throwing things at the wall not get better so that's true get the
01:36:44.920 work out there you can make something on your phone and there's never you're never going to
01:36:49.460 be ready for real exactly i never i still don't feel ready for some of the things i've had to do
01:36:53.500 you me both yeah you just sort of like go into it and chips will fall where they may yeah well
01:36:59.560 that's the i guess the the best thing and the worst thing about uh being able to live off of
01:37:04.960 making art yeah it's like sometimes it's gonna hit sometimes it's not that is the gamble you
01:37:08.860 will watch your your either way they're gonna be tuned in yeah either way they're gonna see
01:37:13.660 how lucky are we yes the luckiest people in the world but thank you so much for coming and hang
01:37:19.120 out with me today thank you this was so fun you're a joy and a delight oh i enjoy you and i am wishing
01:37:23.740 you all the best on your podcast journey thank you and if you'd like me to be your 13th guest
01:37:27.780 you let me know please come oh when you when you come to new york you should come do it i would
01:37:31.720 love to yeah i'd love to you literally might be like guest 13 i think yeah okay well lucky me
01:37:36.220 we're working out the kinks with drew i know i need to know i i don't know what the exact number
01:37:41.380 you are but i'm over 200 at this point my lord yeah you're very good at this i mean you don't
01:37:45.800 thank you but yeah that's 200 that's great we got 200 you're gonna yeah hello that's what i'm
01:37:54.200 saying the train keeps moving forward yeah hell yeah hell yeah that's why yeah it would be a joy
01:37:58.440 to have you in new york i would love yeah i would love that would be amazing but thank you so much
01:38:02.320 for coming hang out with me i think you're a delight so much fun thank you all so much for
01:38:06.200 tuning into this episode for those of you who do not know where can everybody find you uh just
01:38:11.260 matt buchelle online matt b-o-o shell and then the pod is called that sounds like a lot it's on vox
01:38:17.100 media uh episodes every week very fun very cool thank you all so much for tuning in thank you so
01:38:22.980 much to my amazing guest matt make sure you guys go check out all of the various projects that he
01:38:27.440 is doing and working on because he is talented he is an all-around 360 performer that's me
01:38:32.900 plugging you no this is the manifestation chair i wanted to say that yeah i thought it'd be a
01:38:37.900 little yeah i thought it'd be a little gauche if i said it but i i said it and i mean it and
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