GOON-A Ft. MUNA ｜ Episode 231
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Summary
The gloves come off on Canada Day, July 1st, with the return of the returning all-stars, the iconic, the legendary, the extremely gay and straight famous, Muna. We talk about the new season of Gloves Off, and what it means to be gay in 2019.
Transcript
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Hey guys, seems to just be like the rest of us in the sense of like...
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to make movies. It's like, literally, I'm actually a poet. Well, especially when it sucks. The only
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way to kill AI, Muna has to keep making music. Hey, everyone, and welcome back to another episode
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of the comment section show. Sorry, me, your babe. Everybody knows me. Who cares about me?
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On to the guests today. We have the returning all-stars, the iconic, the legendary,
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I have never in my life been harassed by gay people
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and it's still scary but still beautiful let's keep it beautiful they just do not
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fucking play about you guys yeah at all which i appreciate it i think it's wonderful we saw
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thank you for holding us down our tour our production manager ivan barry sent us like a
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a page from a book that his girlfriend is reading right this was iconic that was like um
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detective detective detective a butch detective that's interviewing like a woman who is is like
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trying to like signify that she's gay right and so she like starts playing moon on the phone and
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then like acts like it's like i love this song yeah that's your legacy that we've made it into
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these like into these fiction books really funny ass it does seem very smutty it was pretty sweet
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yeah i think i need to i think i need to i love smut i love smut too i love detective why not
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i don't you're not reading smut you're just reading i'm reading like the most bad crime
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novels i'm just reading like the most scary thing that you could be reading i have to be honest with
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you i i started reading one of the books or i started listening to one of the books by the
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That would be crazy if it was her real name.
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But you know, sometimes that's what you're looking for.
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You're like, let's move the plot so I can fuck.
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I like that song so I can fuck again in a different way.
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I like the, because I listen to the audio book.
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There's something like that it's doing to me subconsciously
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Like there's something about the bad writing that feels safe.
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No, honestly, though, I do, I can understand that it doesn't hit, bad writing doesn't hit
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Sometimes bad art, in a way, is better than good art in a way that it makes me feel.
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Right, especially when I watch, like, if I watch, like, a cringy-ass show that's, like,
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Sometimes they'll be like, why would you watch that?
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And I'm like, well, I know it's not going to win an Emmy.
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i think i think they're like i think in this day and age of like actual like shit media right you
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have to have different levels of media that you consume because you're just trying to avoid
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the base level media in which we are fed right i agree that's what that those novels are for me
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like if i that's like me being kind of like if i don't want to be on tiktok right i'll go on a walk
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i have to read the book version of the brain it's brain rot but it doesn't do the same thing where
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my brain feels is like i agree negatively used that's very true yeah and you can discern like
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you're actively listening and going this isn't great but i am enjoying myself yeah yeah i have
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quite a few things i enjoy like that do you guys have any tv shows or anything you've been watching
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you're like this i mean i love this but it's i know most people might not i you know the bad
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The only thing that I've been enjoying is like bad paintings.
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people showing off their bad paintings on the internet.
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Also like, do people give you paintings of yourself?
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It's like, you want me to put up a picture of myself?
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I literally got sent one at the very beginning of me doing this.
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And my mom was like, you're going to hang this?
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You put a closet and then you go in there when you need to think about yourself.
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I'm convincing myself, as I'm telling you this.
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For those who don't remember, for those who don't remember, yeah.
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Yeah, it was just a pure, yeah, it was once pure.
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I bet y'all have a ton of fanfiction written about you.
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The first fanfiction that was ever written about us was.
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yes i do remember that yeah um but i like when you comment if you were there um we they were
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writing us into kind of as sort of background fodder oh i see the story being like and moona
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was also there backstage you guys were like a b-side character yeah i can't believe we did that
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that's so funny but i haven't really gone into the fan fiction world no i i don't know the internet
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there's a ton about y'all like where do you find that reddit wlw fanfic i bet whoa wlw well you
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know i bet it's on a03 like that's that's probably that's where all that wait you're
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you're speaking like someone who knows right let me put y'all on a03 are you like on the internet
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you're on forums oh yeah not like not for forums what an old word yeah wait wait
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the forums the message boards i love i love i love a good forum in my yeah a03 i'm just a
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fanfic girl like i was back in the day what kind so that's where the smuttiest ones wait wait wait
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wait what were you looking at if you don't mind i know your mom is in the room was your i don't
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care my mom's heard worse things i've said in this room i'll tell you that but like your early
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like sex experiences was it like literatica like no yeah honestly yes it was like it was fan fiction
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it was also like on tumblr tumblr was a big lots of slutty shit on tumblr yeah nsfw
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oh okay okay cool and sfw and sfw forum yes were you in the chat rooms no not really i was never
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it was almost like i was doing it like secretly like i was but not intentionally i'm happy for
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that yeah that's good i just wasn't looking for community i was like if i'm gonna flick my bean
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i'm gonna do it privately i don't need i don't need to sound off about it did you have like
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fictional characters that you like were interested in that way about well i was a big jonas brother
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girl back in the day when i was young yeah me and my lesbian sister which one which both were
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writing fanfic about it's kind of lesbian too they're lesbian adjacent they are there is a
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pipeline for sure there are like like fellas that like if you had a crush on them you might be sus
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right it's funny now there are because because like ice i have they might be in that category
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there's something there i've seen comments of of girls who like used to be well obviously your
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fucking fiance it's like yeah it's to be a joe jonas yeah so is my sister see there's a pipeline
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there i always think lesbians like joe i think it's joe yeah i think so too everyone did this
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right goes like nick yes they were like he has diabetes and i'm loving that and it's and
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awareness i'm gonna send this to them i remember this people were writing they were like
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guys he just announced yeah yeah and and now that's my man yeah the diabetes really pushed
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it over for me i well i wrote a fanfic i wrote about the jonas brothers but there was no smut
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in it at all because i wrote it when i was like you just want to be friends no i wrote it i'm not
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even kidding i wrote it as i wasn't even in it you would think i would write myself this is the
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thing i don't think people are doing that i think people right they're just imagining what it'd be
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like for them yeah me i'm just writing like a creepy third party i was like okay well now i'm
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gonna write about them kissing each other omniscient narrator yeah yeah like i'm in the cuck chair i
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Them kissing each other, we don't have to get too into it,
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Yeah, but it was honestly, I wrote it about Miley Cyrus
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and Selena Gomez was my main villain in it at the time
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And the diabetes was a huge moving piece of my story.
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you don't want to read it to us cause you're embarrassed.
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I will let you guys are almost like they're like your Wario in my opinion.
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But also he was the only one that ended up with a brown girl.
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I think my third eye was like, this one's fucking with people of color.
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yeah that's right now i read i've read like fan fiction about fake characters too do you guys are
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you familiar with avatar the last airbender i mean we're like light i've been meaning to get
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around to that you should watch that that's one of my favorite shows of all time it's good it
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holds up over time i watched it again recently like front to back okay so good maybe the summer
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is the time yeah you gotta watch it on tour it's so good is it like a long it's like a lot of
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seasons i think it's like three or four seasons okay it's not terrible yeah yeah and it's all
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cartoon but it's impeccable i love cartoons i mean i mainly my favorite kinds of movies are kids
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movies what are your favorite movies okay well first of all i have to i have to give a shout
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out to hoppers because i just oh my gosh i haven't watched hoppers yet but i heard it was really good
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i watched it like three times this past week we were we were got a shout out to this huge franchise
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it was a huge franchise hoppers it's amazing it's giving like ferngully but updated and i love
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yeah it's like my my partner also was reminding me that remember in ferngully there's like the
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musical sequence because it's like his like tape player gets gets like somehow sent with him
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yeah when he gets shrunken that he has like a massive tape player with him so like they're
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like they have a dance party all the fairies have a dance party in the forest they have a similar
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thing and it's very moona concert but it's like the kid true that's what it feels like i feel like
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kids i'm taking this question as your favorite kids movies because otherwise i get too overwhelmed
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but it's like i like kids movies that have like these kinds of like radical uh like storylines
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about either like alternative family structure or like yeah revolution yeah totally yeah absolutely
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bugs life bugs life is a great one yeah monsters inc yeah i love monsters inc bugs life made me a
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communist t-shirt new moon emerge yeah you can have that you can have the band of like i mean
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like yeah the like circus freaks like the circus freak bugs like the traveling troops yeah the
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cross-dressing ladybug also they were they were being their labor was being exploited yeah totally
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for that's true by the grasshoppers by the grasshopper class so go ahead and go back and
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re-watch that yeah a lot of these ones it hits this kind of reminds me this is a strange segue
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but it does remind me of it uh we were all at lucy dacus's party oh yeah we were all there we
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else i spoke with you i didn't get to chat with y'all i definitely didn't go you weren't you
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weren't i was going to go i wouldn't be surprised if i know i know i didn't that night i know i
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didn't because amber came with you right oh yeah amber was with us yeah that's true i was too tired
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yeah sorry lucy i love you well i went and while we were there at one point um i was talking with
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lucy and a few other people my friends manna and carrie they were there too but she was like i have
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a question because we were talking about kids media okay movies and she was like if you see
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have you ever seen um what's the wild robot y'all watch wild yes it's a good one it's a great one
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it's so beautiful yeah but she was like do you think that these kids movies with robots are like
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wally right do you think they're encouraging like manufacturing consent for like ai or something
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yes like robots which i was like this is the most lucy dacus question to ask me at a birthday party
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it is interesting because you think about the cocoa robots right that are on the streets
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delivering food allegedly although their names are coco but who's to say i've never opened her
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up yeah when you see them struggling like i immediately feel compassion because they have
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cute eyes because they have cute little eyes they're like and names and they're stumbling
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i don't know i've noticed ai though that's what that's what she was asking because ai to me is
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like the robots and wally like they are given like a human characteristic that makes you feel
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empathy for them ai is just this void right i agree but also how it's viewed it's like the
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larger yeah if ai was a robot that i was talking to that sat next to me i would think then that
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but the the ai robots are like you go girl well that's go good for you for setting that boundary
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or whatever real they're they're like parroting back what you'd like to hear yeah we were talking
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about the movie iron giant i love that movie i fucking love that movie and y'all love chris
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fleming like i do and i told chris fleming that the plot of iron giant is what i imagined his
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childhood was like and then he was like what me and the forest making no friends i go right that's
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how i think you turned out this way but that's just a theory but either way we were talking
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about iron giant and she was like do you think that's like big tech like the the robot and then
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i i told her honestly no i don't think so in the case of iron giant because he was supposed to be
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used as a war machine but he didn't want to be totally different political different implications
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and one of the articles that she shoved my way was um about uh like this discussion around
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have you heard that like people are referring to ai and robots as clankers yes i have i've heard
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that too that's like a very ready they'll come up with a slur for anything yeah yeah yeah they're
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Right, and it's, it like has started this like discussion of like, I don't know, they
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were talking about, well, they were talking about a video that like went viral on TikTok
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where some comedian was like, when like my daughter brings home like a clanker, but then
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like the, the, like Futurama, like she's dating a clanker, she's dating, yeah, yeah, she's
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dating like a robot, but then it ends up that the robot is Wally, so the dad is like excited
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about it okay but the undertones of it are crazy because it's like it's racial obviously it's
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obvious racial undertones right and so like towards the robot towards the robot interesting
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but it's but it's just like people are like transplanting their racist fears on onto robots
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yeah but then also like that's weird i think there's i think we have so much to like basically
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sort through as how about just everybody take 10 minutes just go outside just go outside go
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circle up with some friends get it talk to a gay person i appreciate lucy asking these questions
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and i appreciate lucy me too honestly we had a we had a blast discussing it yeah she's so
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ferocious about yeah no trust me i was like yeah i want to kill ai too but the iron giant does not
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count no no iron giant has nothing nothing to do with this metaphor completely yeah i agree it's
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like as soon as they start like rusting then i'm like right i'm like all of a sudden you're on my
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team it's like i don't it doesn't matter like i think if you're if you're analog what it is is
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like if it's the robot isn't um what's her name the girl who plays wednesday jenny ortega is in
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a movie that's about like robots like oh i think i saw a trailer for it they go out of you know
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like what happens to the old robots you know what i mean damn take them out back and shoot them
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it's been waiting for it is spooky like ooky spooky to me how ingrained technology is becoming
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though in a lot of ways i think totally it is very ai scares me on a whole nother level but like
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just even literal technology scares me like waymos freak me out too oh my god have you seen those
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like and scary have you seen those specs things which ones like they're huge uh sunglasses that
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that are basically like screen, they're called specs.
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It's kind of like meta glasses where they're like,
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you can't even tell and there's huge lenses right here
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A huge lens in there and a blinking big red light.
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I think the funniest part about them is that the quality
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Like when you download the video, it's like 480p.
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They're really trying to convince you that not only like,
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to record what you see, but that the glasses look good.
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They're meta-glasses, and you can tell when you look at them.
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I think you guys have to keep making more music.
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I think that's the only way we can try to fight it.
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We all work jobs that we don't have to interact with AI.
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what i'm just thinking about like i know so many people are being like forced to to work with it
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yeah or make it work in their everyday life they have to yeah because people are you're gonna get
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fucking fired well that's why i said it's really like it's eliminating a certain like class of
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worker in a really totally because there are people who it's like the ai is not a mechanic
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you know what i mean like certain jobs certain kind of like for now like working class blue
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collar jobs are actually safe from the like job failure that's happening for like millennials who
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were told like go get a college degree and you'll you'll be rich or whatever and it's like no you
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whatever it's crazy that like ai and i've said this before but it's like ai seems to just be
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like the rest of us in the sense of like it wants to make movies and art it's like literally i'm
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So it literally can't create anything without an example.
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Well, what's the name of that girl band that...
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Hauntology is like a type of, it's a genre of music.
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Stuff that kind of like makes, feels like it's like rediscovered
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from other times and it's like haunted by ghosts.
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What was that record when we were watching a YouTube?
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I just mean to say that it's like a very Mark Fisher-y idea
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I feel like for some reason this is part of lesbian culture.
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like there's a there's a um punk band that was started do you know this the name of this band
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that i'm talking about with the girls they were sisters and like their dad didn't show them any
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music i have no idea and then they started a band okay and um are they a new band no no no this was
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like in like this was decades ago but like he was thinking that they were gonna be like the new
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beatles because he was like this is like they're gonna make the most original music oh because
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they've never listened because they've never heard any music and like what they made frankly
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was like weird and like well and like because there are fundamentals to music that you should
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probably know yeah so it's like it is interesting like to a certain extent like we're all doing that
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like we're all creating from nothing and then and then yes but we have souls right that's why i said
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like i think art comes from it comes from like human experience like the ability to create even
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if it's good or bad depending because it's subjective yeah it comes from living life
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which is another thing yeah that i've talked about with my sister about like the over policing on
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tiktok like the the the villain villainizing essentially anyone that missteps in a way that's
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not obviously obviously terrible but like when they jump down someone's throat by how they react
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to like their boyfriend or their girlfriend or whatever and I'm always like younger kids COVID
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kids especially yeah I'm extending empathy towards them in this sense I'm like of course you are so
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quick to judge and to write people off because you haven't like actually lived life like you
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haven't gone out and loved people like through their mistakes or like made mistakes yourself
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or like experience life in a way that corrects you and puts you on the right path hopefully
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so of course you have this extremely high standard for people to meet because everything you've ever
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experienced has been through other people on the phone yeah it's also like the the sad it's also
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just the sad thing about like the state of i don't know people of the left in this country right where
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it's like we have been so disempowered that the only thing that feels powerful is the ways that
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we use language yeah and like and so each other yeah and so like the policing of language becomes
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this this this alternative right to uh structural power right totally because it actually is it has
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an impact i don't know i'm being like you know i'm not addressing myself well but i think that
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is where it comes from it's like you're doing a great job because they're because we don't have
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this power in these other ways right language becomes the means through which we can uh get out
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the the urge to change things totally um but it's ultimately like futile yeah and when you come up
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against the brick wall of life right and especially when it eats itself right like you're just it's a
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snake eating its own tail at that point which progresses nobody moves nobody forward and i
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also think it's an indicator of being young right like we're older millennials so like we've lived
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through many a tumultuous time i also think though that's why art is has never been better
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your album included right it's never been better because every time geopolit geopolitical turmoil
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is happening everywhere and it's awful and awful and awful the best most iconic art comes out of
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those times totally unfortunately because everyone's you know unhappy or pissed off and
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that reminds me of your guys's song on your new album big stick obviously same kind of undertones
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same themes where but i think that's why that's why i said the only way to kill ai moona has to
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making music that is the true way to to kill yeah fourth wall breaking this is good that's what
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wait you see that did you all hear that wait you see that the big web was tied all the way back
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yeah hello look at me good job thank you but i do want to talk that's great transition to the
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new album i do want to talk about obviously dancing on the wall my sister was uh my introduction to
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to y'all and you've only gotten better with time if i may say so and i do want to lol really quickly
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the last time y'all were here i was like is there anyone else you guys are looking at that you're
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like wow this person really has something and you're like honestly no um because every time
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we say it they go past us we can't and y'all were like every time we we say it out loud that person
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just sticks out and i was like y'all are oracles to me in that sense too like chapel like y'all
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we're like hey girl we're like we're proud of you y'all are just you just pick correctly every
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single time yeah and i pick y'all the vote means nothing but you know i'm gonna do my best
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i do think it's important though to like keep your eye on the up and comers because it's so
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inspiring absolutely it's like they have stuff to teach us too absolutely i want to talk about
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the new album though like how did it feel like how does this one feel compared to your your
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previous art it's funny it's hard to say because it also has been such a long time since we put
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music out and it feels like so much has changed exactly both just like in the culture the world
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in the culture and like in i don't know just in our lives yeah we're different but i do think
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it is really nice to have music out and as always it just kind of makes you want to make
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more music right and like keep that's how you're creating kind of yeah well not fucking right now
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i'm going through something yeah you're like don't ask me for more right now but in the future yeah
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i think it makes you releasing something just makes you want to make the art that reacts against
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or with yeah as a companion to your previous works yeah totally like yeah so i don't know
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something like that maybe yeah i mean i think that the first like term that kind of came up
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in my head is like it just feels like um we're at a point where like the phrase that came up for me
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is like victory lap yeah because i'm like yeah i just feel like we've we've been able to achieve
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so much as a band period in like and and part of that is like just being together for this long
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like yeah most bands don't make it past like the decade mark no true that's a huge thing to
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achieve i know can you believe it i mean i can yeah so it's like some concern to be able to like
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have made four albums together yeah it's huge and then also i think we just felt really in love with
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the songs on this record and we were like to be like able to work on something
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like consistently you know like the year before we were putting we put the album out
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we were just going to the studio like like at office hours and just like like consistently
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working on making every song as good as it could be and like experimenting with stuff and it's like
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that is the happiest that I am in my life when we're doing that yeah like it's it's so cool to
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feel like you have like this purpose that you're really passionate about yeah um and to get to like
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yeah share that and tour that where we did like a mini tour like we did shows in LA and New York
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and London yeah promo trip yeah like um just like kind of mini residencies in in this in those
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cities and it was really sweet to be able to like play the record live as soon as it came out yeah
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but we also haven't done like the actual tour isn't until the fall so we're in this like funny
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any limbo right now, like I think you don't feel
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And yeah, so now it's like, we're just gonna have like,
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I love being in the studio, but I think that we
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oh my god that is so iconic that's iconic that's probably why i saw you yeah that is my big ass
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was right in the middle i was standing right in the center well i know i know too that you you
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had mentioned that y'all are in very different places in your lives now obviously older now
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more established been doing this for a while like how did that kind of shift in your lives
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affect the way you guys made this album was it different did it feel different or was it kind
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of the same just a little bit more convicted i feel like we're just more sure of ourselves yeah
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as musicians and i don't know if we've ever put out a record where we felt like we did the best
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that we could like and you know you always i you know try to get to that place but i don't know
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the thing is i do think if we were given more time we would have worked until you know whatever
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that deadline's like last moment was but i do feel like we did the absolute best that we could
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making this record like i don't know how we could have done something differently and gotten like a
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a different result that would be you know but i think i mean i think that i do think you doing
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like songwriting stuff like when i was doing my solo record joe was started doing more writing
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sessions and stuff and i feel like that did affect like the dynamic in the studio yeah like it was
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like more collaborative collaborative yeah but i think beautiful which i which i think it just
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comes from like i i mean yeah maybe it wouldn't have happened if i hadn't have like done more
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stuff like that but I do feel like it's just more self-assuredness you know that allowed us to
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collaborate more and hopefully like make some of our best pop songs hell yeah yeah and just like
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being better at communicating because we're older and like knowing and we've had more like I think
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also like relationship like being in relationships outside of the band then affects your relationship
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in the band because you like are learning about yourself and how to ask for things that you need
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acast.com slash advertise like the closest thing that i have in my life to like a marriage um where
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it's like you know we we there's so much commitment you guys are in a common law marriage
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been together for 10 years yeah it didn't involve the government but we have been living together
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and we would never we would fucking never but we've involved the bank yes obviously we share
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accounts just kidding oh yeah we got it we got llc's upon hell yeah need it are you married yet
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not yet i'm getting married this summer though holy cow where in hoi i was gonna ask what you're
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And if you guys wanna come, I'd love for you to come,
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Yeah, I'm gonna have y'all work in if you come.
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because I've invited quite a few of my friends too
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I'm like, imagine I'm just like, okay, karaoke,
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Yes, I'm actually, I'm going to Lanai, which is another island.
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That's why I'm telling you, when I get there, I feel like I reset a little bit.
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my evil gets tampered down just a little bit only the mainland makes me evil like that
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are you a chiller or are you i mean i'd imagine that like building something like this it's like
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do you think about work all the time um yes but i think a lot of that's just because i'm a virgo
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and i i do love i love wait virgo what what's your rising and oh my my son i'm a virgo sun
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Cancer moon Sagittarius rising oh we're all we're very compatible oh look at us yeah well I love
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Virgos yeah tell your partner tell your girlfriend my girlfriend your fiance yeah she's cancer son
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oh look at that mine too we got sensi what are your what are y'all's big big three we're caps
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okay Pisces yeah okay but I'm I'm cap Taurus rising which is also I'm Taurus rising oh I love
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tauruses i get along with tauruses very well my partner's a taurus um and then i'm a gemini moon
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yeah yeah yeah very yeah i mean yeah super and i'm an earth wait and then you're a gemini moon
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no i'm a gemini rising our signs are all kind of like um like mixed together yeah because i'm
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gemini rising but joe's a pisces sun i'm a pisces moon yeah oh and then we're both cap suns yeah
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and then i'm tourist rising and virgo moon it's like really like entangled i've joked a lot about
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capricorns because i've been like capricorns to me don't they should be taking the flack that like
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gemini's and scorpio's get t only because i'm like capricorns are so because like my cousin adam who's
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my hair and makeup artist he's a capricorn and my sister's a capricorn moon i believe but i feel
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like capricorns are really good at getting people to love them they're just better at convincing
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people that were right exactly that too i'm saying you're very very personal very likable
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you think gemini's are like that too no i what i think they should be getting shit for is that
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capricorns when they're like basically over you whatever capacity that is they could just pretend
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they never met you and that you're dead which i believe to be a super villain trait and i think
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no one did anything to me yeah the capricorns are hard asses and and my sister's a capricorn moon
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Which is so funny because I've joked about my sister for years that like if I'm talking to her actively speaking to her
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You do that too. You do that more than anybody.
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I'm telling her, I'm telling her that I'm saying-
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my sister would do this thing where if we were on the phone,
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And then finally, one time I go, no, you don't.
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And then we started laughing and she goes, I'm just, I'm done.
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well i'll let you head out i know you got things to do i'm sure or yeah that's very midwestern
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yeah it's like well and that's why i think i understand y'all capricorns especially this
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is crazy though this thing about like us moving on like that i haven't ever thought about that
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before but i think it is true it's very true i think the truth is like when i oh god when a
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capricorn oh god get i think when a capricorn gets the ick right it like it just will never
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and it could be anything that's the thing it's like it could be so so small or huge either way
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you're dead to them and they're over it because we're like right about it right so that's that's
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where i run into it because i'm a virgo so by nature i'm a nodal so that's where i have my
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be like the ultimate no that's what i'm saying final boss friends with some exes i just have
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it's not like well you're sitting on a couch yeah i'm like best friends with some exes well you're
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both capricorns we were like yeah so there you go you guys like to be in alliance yeah but it's
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either like yeah i'm still really close with you and i love you or like yeah it's real black and
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white i respect it i just find it to be it could be used for good or evil yeah i'm like some exes
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I don't think Katie needs to talk to the exes that we're thinking about.
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Yeah, but you just, I don't think what you said was true.
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Katie's extraordinarily nice and forgiving.
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Dude, I want to beat up the shit out of some of Katie's exes.
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I want to beat the shit out of my sister's exes too.
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I got spammed by one of my exes yesterday.
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That's creepy, because my sister has also had that.
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No, yeah, hers was to get in contact with her again.
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What if this, what if, what if they were hacked?
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Spam calls, yeah, like put her on like a call bank thing.
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And I gotta be honest, my number has been sold.
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My number has been sold and no one's listening to me.
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I've been having fun talking to some of the texters
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who are like, how about we meet up for dinner tonight?
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I'll go back and forth a little bit with them,
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I will translate something into a different language.
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Our bassist has gotten texted by like numbers
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that are sending like photos of hot girls being like,
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Yeah, he'll text us on days in the most fun way.
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That should be the subscription fanfic service.
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who like jack off they're like edging in a community with other men yes exactly yeah like
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a circle jerk they're having homoerotic connections they're sending each other porn so they can jack
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off all day and they talk about it like it's normal they talk about it like they're like oh
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i got a clock back in with other guys where is this happening which is so gay far away from us
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thank god like on reddit yeah i'm sure all over there or on twitch i'm like everything that's
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happening is it on reddit is that where it's i don't know thankfully we live in a very protective
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gay bubble thank god that doesn't permeate our airspace but like i barely know how to use a
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computer it honestly only gets in my airspace because of what i do like me fucking up men it
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works its way to me unfortunately i'm sure like i don't have y'all seen the manosphere documentary
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on netflix yeah did you watch it i i have not i loved it too he's the goat yeah it's honestly
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so interesting to watch but he basically goes into like red pill communities but he talks with
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like red pill men and uh it's so funny because in that documentary there's about three out of the
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four guys he focuses on are like my ops like they've actively talked shit on me i've talked
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shit on them and they don't talk about me in this movie at all but i remember watching them i was
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like i have fucked up three out of the four of those wait so why is he focusing on these people
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like to see like why do you so he does like he does these immersive documentaries where he goes
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and spends time with people he did that series the settlers about the like west bank israeli
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yeah yeah yeah um and it's also that's also he's like what's going to say but he what's wrong with
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you yeah essentially he goes and he investigates and essentially just ask them questions what did
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he find what did you discover about your ops he discovered that they all were were like mama's
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boys who were like they have like emotionally insecure yeah it went and he like even asked
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then like do you really believe this stuff or do you just say it and a lot of them don't like which
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i've said too which i'm like i don't know what's worse like being actually that fucking stupid or
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doing it for money i think like i don't know what's worse like they're both pretty terrible
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money is maybe right a lot of them are also it's like this is a sad thing but it's like a lot of
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them are young men who grew up you know in maybe like working class environments or whatever who
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had a single mom and an absent father how can you be mean to women that's the greatest irony to me
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but a lot of them come from single moms which is very interesting it's like they're trying to like
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they're they don't have like yeah it's their vision of a man and like what it means to be a
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man this is the gender binary man yeah don't get don't even get into that conversation
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with them like every time i i even broach that topic even a little because they're i really hate
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to when people say things like oh well i just want to like take you out of your masculine energy
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and and put you more in your feminine energy like that's literally just cloak and dagger
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misogyny like that's what the fuck it is and i was like and then when if i tell you masculine
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feminine don't even fucking exist and that was man-made then what then we're back at zero and
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they're like well now you're saying boys and girls are not real well they aren't like socially
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speaking they literally aren't but that's why sometimes with people who hate me i'm like you're
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not smart enough to have this conversation i think that's just tea and that's the thing that's
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really sad and scary yeah i'm like you're not smart enough to have this conversation with me
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so you just catch these fucking jokes and that's why sometimes they're like why don't you have like
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a more in-depth conversation because they would have to understand gender is a social construct
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and they can't even get there so there's really no point there's nowhere else we can go that women
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are maybe you should start an academy you're right that too we need that too we need that dude
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it's also like y'all are all we want to do hang out with all these guys all day being shirtless
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well not even knowing what they do yeah they're just fucking shirt together y'all are weird
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i'm so sorry yeah watch the manosphere well actually more importantly go see mood on tour
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yeah yeah stream dancing off the wall obviously but i really i would love to know um just to kind
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rap is if you could tell us what you really hope people take away from this album oh god yeah i
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mean i hope it feels like reflective of people's life experiences in certain ways or that they can
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see themselves in the in the stories that we're telling on the record i hope they like the music
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and come to the shows um tickets on sale now where's moon.com goodbye yes um or maybe not
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because it might be sold out near you so act quickly uh and yeah i hope we're able to provide
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like a a space where people feel safe and like they can you know release whatever they might
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need to release or that they can come and make friends i was hearing from some people the other
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night that people at the shrine show like the further back you got people were creating with
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different communities oh yeah they were there yeah my sister and carrie went as well to your
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shrine show well like there was a group of people who got really invested in like this couple that
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they were seeing and they were like when do you think they met oh interesting like they were just
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making friends with each other they were making friends about but like about what was going on
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in a kind of nice way yeah in a people watching way and then people like dancing with each other
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because they can't see the stage so yeah so cute just what happens when you have a packed house
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come on ramuna yeah yeah i feel like there's something that is revealing itself the longer
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that this album is out um that's revealing itself to me like about um just desire and i think that
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a lot of people that are um like on the left uh struggle right now with like how do i like
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ever feel good yeah in in this horrible world like how how do i experience joy yeah and like
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and also like how do I not like feel guilty about experiencing joy yeah and I think that like um
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yeah there is like something in this album that um like wrestles with that and I hope that um
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like people feel in touch with like yeah their desire and their kind of like life drive yeah
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like because we have to be um trying to nourish that wherever we can totally like if you want to
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be a part of yeah like because we are alive right now so it's like right and especially to that same
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point we have a mutual friend in caleb i've had this conversation with caleb many times about like
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how as tumultuous and awful as the world can be a lot of times it forces me to be more present
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and experience and like really enjoy art and experience it for real because it's almost like
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who knows if we're gonna get to keep doing it and so it's almost it makes it it's ironic that it
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makes you want to be more present even more so and feel things for real and feel things
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honestly and openly and earnestly and i think that's what y'all have done for years i think
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y'all have created and cultivated a space in which people can feel all of those things at once
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including survivor's guilt right of like wanting to enjoy wanting to be in love wanting to celebrate
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in the middle of awfulness so i i genuinely believe y'all are one of the greatest like
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bands to ever exist and listen i don't give a fuck what people think about this i think you're
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better than the beatles that is my take i don't fucking care what people say that is my take
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well the beatles didn't write uh big sticks so yeah i'll tell you what like
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wait but did you guys see the only pull thing i was i was talking about this i was talking about
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the paul mccartney interview for chicken chop date like okay before you walked in did you know
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that paul mccartney wrote yesterday in his dreams no i did not but it makes sense the man was asleep
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that's so fucked up when he wrote that song he was asleep he was passed out i'm like i heard that
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and i was like okay like that is legit it's kind of like the michael jackson joke where he says
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like if i don't act on an idea god will give it to prince god will give it to prince that's y'all
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to chapel rome you're like if i don't do it now she's gonna be given to chapel you can let her
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she can have whatever she wants no i want to keep it yeah she'll be fine she'll find something else
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and i'll tell you what like i really think that y'all could have done yellow submarine i don't
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think they could have done silk chiffon i don't think so i don't think that's to be true they
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might not have the vocal range that's what i'm saying problem but i i think we would have probably
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gotten made fun of for you we're we're gonna get on a whole side of like twitter where people are
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like angry about the beatles and now us well they i've made this public many times when nat and
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Fucking with the Beatles heavy, I'm sorry,
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I'm gonna generalize, it's just my experience.
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In my experience, it's white people's stuff.
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and my mom's white, but she was an upright bass player,
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Earth, Wind & Fire is fucking better than the Beatles,
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well then who's one of the greatest acts to you?
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They thought I was gonna say some bullshit.
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Listen, unfortunately, I totally agree with you.
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I'm a wings for, I like Paul McCartney's wings.
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I like George Harrison's solo more than I like
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you know what i mean but i think i think y'all are gonna drop the day the beatles movie comes
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out i know like paul mccartney's gonna die the day this drops and everyone's gonna call me an
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asshole anyways shout out to wings shout out to wings though shout out i do want to say though
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like on some real shit i really do think y'all are one of the best acts out there and have been
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for a while and the fact that y'all are continuing to do it and prioritize like your fan base and
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and how you guys feel and what you want to make
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But if you want to support us, come to the show.
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thank you so much for coming on the show again.
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We need to go, we need to do something fun.
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Make sure y'all check out Muna's latest album, obviously,
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And for the two straight people that maybe are unfamiliar,
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you can click around our website and um and see where you're going on tour and see yeah see where
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we're going where we're up to and yeah i don't know support us support queer art it's pride month
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i don't know when this is coming out but right now it's pride yeah hello so if you want to find
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us in person then pretty much just walk around northeast la hello or talk to a lesbian yeah
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every lesbian in the history of time like muna is the mount rushmore that is we love y'all and
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Well, thank you so much for coming on the show.
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Thank you all for tuning in to this episode of the comment section.
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Don't forget to stream Muna's music literally everywhere you stream music.
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And if you don't, ask the nearest gay person.
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Don't forget, new episodes of the comment section drop every Wednesday.
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You can stream audio on all streaming platforms.
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And y'all can check out Muna's music videos when you go there.
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every time i have a sleepover we watch you know moona music videos hell yeah and i'm not lying
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about that that's real we have at least an hour yeah sometimes that's so cute y'all want to come
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yeah yeah okay well it's on camera now so you can't back out that includes you joe
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you didn't go to lucy's you're not coming to mine right right right
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you'd be scared to leave your dogs i think i would do better and like if it was like more
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intimate like that's true there's a lot of people that's true there was a lot of people there yes
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