The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - FIONA KEPT THAT BOG TOGETHER Ft. Jaida Essence Hall ｜ The Comment Section Ep. 135

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00:00:59.980 Girl, these gays are getting on my nerves, girl. I'm like, 1.00

00:01:03.560 you're a gay. You're a gay. What? Are you serious? 1.00

00:01:06.920 They're everywhere.

00:01:07.800 You're everywhere you look, girl. Like, from the swamps of Louisiana,

00:01:11.920 literally even gay penguins in Antarctica, baby. Gays are literally everywhere, girl. 0.99

00:01:17.320 Every species. It's like every, every species, every, everything, every, everywhere. 0.98

00:01:21.220 You think gay people just popped up yesterday? 0.80

00:01:23.660 I do. 0.99

00:01:25.120 And I'm sick of it.

00:01:33.320 Hey, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the Comment Section Show, starring

00:01:37.200 me, your fave. Everybody knows me. Who cares about me?

00:01:39.480 And on to the guests. Today, we have the iconic, the legendary, the champion herself, Jada Essence Hall.

00:01:46.360 Woo! 0.99

00:01:48.140 The crowd goes wild.

00:01:50.440 There's only three people here.

00:01:51.480 Three of us. Yeah. That's good. That's fine. Let's give a snatch game.

00:01:53.900 Yeah, period. Thank you so much for coming on the show.

00:01:56.520 Thank you. Thanks for having me, Drew. How you doing?

00:01:58.320 Oh, girl, I'm doing much better now.

00:01:59.940 Good. Same. Literally. Last night was rough, but I'm here today. Yes.

00:02:03.160 Oh, my gosh, T. Me. I also love the shirt.

00:02:06.420 Thank you. We love change. Thank you. I feel like I love change, and I also love women, 0.50

00:02:10.540 so. And also, I feel like women do, like, literally, as the shirt says, you don't owe

00:02:14.660 anybody a damn thing. Period.

00:02:16.660 Just exists. That's why you're matching my decoration. Absolutely.

00:02:20.560 Look at that. I don't know why we censored the word when I cuss all the time on this fucking show. 1.00

00:02:24.680 Wish it was the gag, because when I saw that, and I thought to myself, I'm like, should I, 0.98

00:02:27.640 like, put, like, maybe, like, something over the eye? And then I thought, then they might think

00:02:32.300 they'd say, oh, you shat. And I'm like, so I'm like, I don't want to leave. 0.80

00:02:35.980 Girl, sorry, I can't do that. I'm not doing that to myself.

00:02:39.000 It's giving. That's not for me, either. It's not my kind of, you know.

00:02:41.960 Yeah. I'm so honored to have you. Thank you.

00:02:44.980 Huge fan. Obviously, a legendary champion of RuPaul's Drag Race.

00:02:48.640 Thank you.

00:02:49.360 And on the new season of We Are Here.

00:02:51.440 Yeah, season four. I'm like, let me tell you that season is, the show is so good this

00:02:55.940 season, and it's like, because we have, like, new hosts, and the show, like, format is so

00:02:59.720 different now. I feel like it's almost like another show.

00:03:03.020 Absolutely.

00:03:03.340 It's like, it feels like another show.

00:03:05.340 It's, it's like, I've had Sasha on, had Bob on, now you.

00:03:09.620 You love bald women. 1.00

00:03:11.160 I do.

00:03:11.500 It seems.

00:03:12.400 I do love bald women. 1.00

00:03:13.680 I hate bald men. 0.91

00:03:15.700 Well, let me. 0.97

00:03:17.500 This is probably a bad time to tell you.

00:03:19.020 This is a bad time to tell you.

00:03:21.620 So I would love to know just a little bit more about your lore. Like, how did you get

00:03:26.060 into drag? Like, what drew you to drag? Like, when did you start, like, really doing it

00:03:29.920 for real?

00:03:30.380 But it's kind of gaggy. I didn't even want, I never even wanted to do drag.

00:03:33.860 Really?

00:03:34.180 I really didn't. I didn't really get it. And, like, but I just kind of remember, like, also

00:03:38.080 I had this one boyfriend who was a liar. But one thing that he did have in his house.

00:03:41.680 Haven't we all?

00:03:42.820 Didn't we? Don't we all?

00:03:44.060 That's the.

00:03:44.480 Probably currently lying.

00:03:45.800 That's the female experience. 1.00

00:03:46.720 That's the, I don't know. I don't even say my experience is a female experience, but

00:03:51.900 it's also giving, well, if we have that, we have that to share.

00:03:54.920 Absolutely.

00:03:55.160 But I never wanted to do drag. I, like, I saw, like, at his house, he had, like, this

00:03:58.120 magazine, like, this local magazine thing. And it was, like, Miss Gay Wisconsin, US of

00:04:02.300 A. And I saw the picture and I remember looking like, hmm, that's interesting.

00:04:06.160 It kind of closed it. But even didn't think that I would ever do drag.

00:04:10.300 And then one day it was, like, this competition. But I do remember, too, Drag Race had came

00:04:13.500 out. So I had saw a little bit of Drag Race before I started drag.

00:04:16.300 So you were familiar?

00:04:17.620 Familiar with it slightly. But I kind of even started watching Drag Race a little bit.

00:04:21.240 Like, it was the first season, but it was, like, not even when it first came out.

00:04:25.180 Like, the first beginning of the show.

00:04:26.460 Yeah.

00:04:26.740 And so I was, like, cocky. I'm, like, if I got on that show, girl, I would win.

00:04:30.880 I don't even do it. Like, and I didn't even do drag. And then, like, eventually.

00:04:33.780 You were right.

00:04:34.700 And I was right. That's crazy.

00:04:37.940 You were right.

00:04:38.020 You kind of gagged me a little bit.

00:04:40.060 I kind of gagged me a little bit.

00:04:41.800 You ate that one.

00:04:44.300 And, like, but then, like, one time there was, like, I used to do hair shows.

00:04:47.740 So I would get my hair, like, all these crazy styles.

00:04:49.840 And we, like, dancing, like, routines.

00:04:51.380 Yeah.

00:04:51.620 And then one day it was, like, this competition.

00:04:53.400 They were, like, if you could, everybody was, like, you should go.

00:04:55.040 You should do it.

00:04:55.700 Like, you would be really good at doing it.

00:04:57.820 And I'm, like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

00:04:59.140 But I got ready and did it.

00:05:00.880 My friends that were supposed to background dance for me, they dropped out at the last minute.

00:05:05.360 And I was, like, okay, well, I guess I'm not doing it because I was still, like, not confident enough to go and do it by myself.

00:05:10.780 I feel you, man.

00:05:11.140 So shout out to y'all that y'all kind of disappointed me a little bit.

00:05:15.460 But it worked out.

00:05:17.180 But it's giving.

00:05:17.760 But also that was good because then I was kind of would have been probably for a while leaning on, like, a crutch.

00:05:22.520 Oh.

00:05:22.880 People having to be present with me to be successful in drag.

00:05:26.720 But I went out and, like, I was, like, well, I've already paid for these, all these things.

00:05:31.020 I'm, like, I'll just go and see what happens.

00:05:33.900 And the people in my community were so affirming to me.

00:05:37.320 It was crazy.

00:05:38.840 Everyone's, like, you look so good.

00:05:40.660 Like, some people, like, finally, like, give it.

00:05:43.500 And I'm, like, okay.

00:05:44.680 I was, like, maybe I should do this again.

00:05:46.580 Yeah.

00:05:46.920 Even at night, I had the audacity.

00:05:49.000 If I go back and, like, those pictures, they were very affirming.

00:05:54.260 But it's also maybe they were liars.

00:05:56.920 Maybe they were being nice, too.

00:05:58.020 Very nice.

00:05:59.260 But I, like, I had the nerve.

00:06:00.940 They made me feel so confident.

00:06:02.160 That night I went out to the casino in drag.

00:06:06.320 And some man was hitting on me.

00:06:07.860 I'm, like, oh, my God.

00:06:08.800 He said, I'm fish.

00:06:09.940 I said, I'm so sorry.

00:06:13.120 He believes.

00:06:14.060 And then when I was leaving, I was looking.

00:06:16.360 This is the worst part.

00:06:17.620 Like, because everybody was telling me how pretty I was.

00:06:19.420 But I was leaving.

00:06:19.960 I was walking by the mirror.

00:06:20.780 And I went, that man fully knows I'm a man.

00:06:24.380 He fully knows I'm a man.

00:06:26.220 He said, oh, I'm not.

00:06:27.040 Oh, he clocked me from a million miles away.

00:06:29.380 I just happened to be his type.

00:06:31.160 That's true.

00:06:32.960 He was gagging.

00:06:33.920 He was not gagging.

00:06:34.700 He knew what he was.

00:06:35.020 No, he was not gagging.

00:06:36.160 He was, like, the fact that you have the nerve to come out, that's sexy.

00:06:39.340 Maybe he loved the confidence.

00:06:40.200 But it wasn't the mug.

00:06:41.540 Maybe it's a, well, all the drag queens I've had on have been, like, bad. 1.00

00:06:45.580 Bring back bad drag. 0.98

00:06:46.740 Bring back bad drag. 0.98

00:06:48.020 Yeah, bad drag is valid. 1.00

00:06:49.800 It's, like, it's, well, in the early days.

00:06:54.340 I feel like, I feel like, I think what, I feel like what I really feel like they mean

00:06:58.280 the most about that is, like, the not being so serious about drag.

00:07:02.460 You know what I mean?

00:07:02.740 Like, it's, like, I think everybody is so serious about everything.

00:07:05.960 Like, even, like, bring back bad Instagram.

00:07:07.820 Like, bring back, like, when we all were using that weird filter that when you go back, it's, like.

00:07:13.800 Like Vienna or something.

00:07:14.760 Yeah.

00:07:15.320 And it's, like, it's, like, when you go back to the picture, you go, ah, nostalgia.

00:07:18.640 Like, Sepia Tone.

00:07:19.540 Cringy.

00:07:20.140 Like, it's giving Kim Kardashian used that filter.

00:07:23.780 Yeah.

00:07:24.520 That's crazy.

00:07:25.300 Early days of Instagram.

00:07:26.080 Early days of Instagram.

00:07:27.100 But it was, like, more, like, you didn't, you don't feel like so many, we were just having fun.

00:07:31.720 You didn't really feel like it had to be the perfect picture.

00:07:33.820 It had to be, like, right.

00:07:34.760 It was, like, more, like, if the night was crazy and I fell down on the sidewalk, I'm posting the random picture of me on the sidewalk that my friend took.

00:07:42.280 Nowadays, it's, like, you, how is that going to change?

00:07:44.960 Is that, how is that going to affect the numbers?

00:07:46.580 Yeah.

00:07:46.800 Like, I'm, like, what does that even mean?

00:07:48.580 Yeah, like, even, like, I feel like, too, every drag queen I've had on has said the same thing.

00:07:52.280 Like, they've all had horrible drag in the beginning.

00:07:54.740 Yeah.

00:07:54.860 And it's, like, a character builder.

00:07:56.120 Yeah.

00:07:56.480 So, it's, like, you learn to develop the queen itself, like, through the bad drag. 1.00

00:08:01.900 Like, you'll find your look eventually.

00:08:03.640 But you develop all the other things that make you unique and special.

00:08:06.300 Who you are.

00:08:06.960 Yeah.

00:08:07.140 And it's, like, you find, it's, like, it's, like, almost, like, through mistakes.

00:08:10.200 Totally.

00:08:10.680 You find your way.

00:08:11.740 Yeah.

00:08:12.520 And even with drag, I'm, like, when you first start and you do, like, this, it's, like, this moment where it's, like,

00:08:17.540 you almost are, like, way more fearless.

00:08:19.760 Yeah. 0.97

00:08:20.100 It's, like, I haven't, I don't have a goddamn thing to lose.

00:08:23.040 I can be, like, I'm, like, if I decide I want to make myself all purple, now it's, like, you, like, for myself, I imagine you do that. 0.51

00:08:30.080 And some people are, like, that's not your brand.

00:08:31.880 Why do you want to be purple?

00:08:32.920 I'm, like, well, because maybe today I felt like I wanted to be purple.

00:08:35.540 And, like, do you know I can also do that?

00:08:37.480 I have the freedom to do that. 0.99

00:08:39.260 But back then you are more, like, I don't give a fuck. 0.99

00:08:42.720 I don't care. 0.99

00:08:43.240 I'm going to do what I want to do.

00:08:44.020 I'm going to say whatever I want to feel.

00:08:45.020 Totally.

00:08:45.260 And so I think a lot of the girls that, like, you kind of want that energy back.

00:08:49.000 Like, even, like, after the pandemic situation, even, like, dressing rooms are not the same for drag. 1.00

00:08:54.360 I feel like it's kind of.

00:08:55.620 Have you ever been in drag?

00:08:57.100 I've never been in full drag, no.

00:08:58.820 Really?

00:08:59.060 Trixie was supposed to put me in drag and then she canceled on me. 1.00

00:09:02.120 Just kidding.

00:09:02.600 She went on sabbatical.

00:09:04.160 Oh, like, this month.

00:09:05.080 Yeah, yeah.

00:09:05.640 So she was supposed to, she's going to put me in drag. 1.00

00:09:07.380 I've never been in full drag, though.

00:09:08.760 We should do it.

00:09:09.580 We should.

00:09:10.340 I would love to.

00:09:11.340 I feel like you should do it, but you have to try multiple drag styles. 1.00

00:09:14.480 I would love it.

00:09:15.080 Because I'm like, I can see, with a Trixie face. 0.98

00:09:17.380 Oh, girl.

00:09:18.000 You're going to give, like, below. 0.89

00:09:18.800 I said, if you do anything that I don't like, I'm going to call you racist. 0.93

00:09:23.200 Absolutely.

00:09:23.700 I warned her.

00:09:24.500 Call her out. 1.00

00:09:25.220 And this is the funniest thing.

00:09:28.500 Well, then you should call her out now. 0.97

00:09:29.840 It's her drag. 1.00

00:09:30.560 Have to.

00:09:31.000 Anything you don't, you say anything, if she does anything you don't like.

00:09:33.600 Mm-hmm. 0.98

00:09:34.340 Racist. 0.99

00:09:34.800 Drag. 1.00

00:09:35.240 Her drag. 0.99

00:09:37.240 That's it.

00:09:38.160 Business is great.

00:09:39.240 YouTube, I love it.

00:09:40.160 Right.

00:09:40.600 Love to run on the show.

00:09:41.740 Drag, I hate. 1.00

00:09:42.660 No.

00:09:44.040 For real.

00:09:44.520 But she's from Milwaukee, so we're both from Milwaukee, from the same town.

00:09:47.460 Oh, you are?

00:09:47.560 Yeah.

00:09:48.000 Love.

00:09:48.380 And it's crazy, because we even talk about starting drag.

00:09:50.600 Like, when she started her drag, we really almost started, like, at the almost exact same

00:09:54.940 time.

00:09:55.260 That's crazy.

00:09:55.840 And so, like.

00:09:56.620 The drag world is, I feel like, is so small.

00:09:58.640 Like, y'all always overlap at some point or another.

00:10:00.740 Yeah, at some point.

00:10:01.480 And, like, even James is from.

00:10:02.920 James Mansfield is from Milwaukee, too.

00:10:04.120 So, but specifically, which is crazy, because I, like, would work a lot in the city, but

00:10:09.560 I had never in my life ever met James, not one time.

00:10:13.880 That's crazy.

00:10:14.720 Not once.

00:10:15.440 It was just, and everybody in the city was like, how do you not know her?

00:10:17.580 And I'm like, how do y'all, everybody knows her, and I don't know her.

00:10:19.380 I never worked.

00:10:19.960 And you were both in Milwaukee at the same time.

00:10:21.120 Yeah, in the same city.

00:10:22.180 I guess we just never worked the same kind of gigs.

00:10:24.380 And one day we happened after, it was like she went to film the show, and people were

00:10:28.400 like, a girl from Milwaukee win.

00:10:29.640 And I was like, oh, really?

00:10:30.500 I don't, okay.

00:10:31.060 And it was like the Sunday that she got back from filming, we happened to then be on the

00:10:35.140 same brunch.

00:10:36.620 That's so weird.

00:10:36.940 Finally, one day.

00:10:37.660 And I was like.

00:10:39.080 We meet again.

00:10:40.000 Yeah.

00:10:40.460 For the first time.

00:10:41.100 And then she told me, she said, girl, you know what?

00:10:44.440 You need to audition for the show.

00:10:46.060 You would get on.

00:10:47.500 All you got to do is just open your mouth on the tape, and you'll get on the show.

00:10:50.740 And I was like, what?

00:10:51.300 I agree.

00:10:52.300 And you know what?

00:10:53.400 It's funny, even me and Trixie, we were like, and it's like, because the love in your community,

00:10:57.600 even like, to see like people, to want to see people like succeed.

00:11:02.760 Yeah.

00:11:02.940 Like for, at that point, like she was on the show, but I hadn't done the show.

00:11:06.000 And like, even before when Trixie was getting ready for the show, we both auditioned for

00:11:09.540 season seven.

00:11:10.280 And I auditioned, and.

00:11:12.060 I never heard a word back.

00:11:13.740 Oh.

00:11:14.120 From anybody at World of Wonder.

00:11:14.840 That's okay, Trixie went home pretty soon. 0.94

00:11:16.300 Yeah.

00:11:17.080 I hate her drag. 1.00

00:11:18.180 I'm just kidding.

00:11:20.020 Bad drag.

00:11:20.800 Bad drag.

00:11:21.660 Bring it.

00:11:22.420 And she's bringing it back.

00:11:23.920 When I had Sasha on, I was like, how was Drag Race?

00:11:29.340 Like, all my friends have said it's like American Ninja Warrior, but you have to be like, wig 1.00

00:11:35.560 down, dress, costume, makeup.

00:11:37.860 I'm like, I think that like, thank you for allowing me to be in this space, one, as myself

00:11:41.840 today, not in drag.

00:11:43.300 That's what all of my drag fans have said.

00:11:45.440 They're all like, I love that I don't have to come in drag.

00:11:46.960 Yeah, because I'm like, the one thing is like, is like also, I get like, sometimes RuPaul

00:11:52.060 to be like, she's not in drag at this event.

00:11:54.040 I'm like, but she is herself and she is her character and she's also, it's like, the work

00:12:01.120 that it takes to get into drag, I think some people don't also don't even understand that.

00:12:05.300 It's like, as a drag artist, it's like, you have to come up with your own costumes.

00:12:09.960 Where some celebrities, you walk in the set, they have a wardrobe for you to pull from.

00:12:15.260 It's like, we're at home stressing like, and it's like, this has to be the right look.

00:12:18.940 And like, and the makeup has to be perfect.

00:12:20.860 And it's like, then you have to, and you're responsible for those things by yourself.

00:12:24.080 There are some people who have like a team of people who help them with that.

00:12:26.340 But for the most part, when you do that by yourself, it helps add to your identity.

00:12:31.100 Almost, you know what I mean?

00:12:31.980 Totally.

00:12:32.100 And sets you apart.

00:12:33.700 Yeah, and it sets you apart, but it's a lot of work.

00:12:36.640 It's exhausting.

00:12:37.540 But even aside from then, it's like, I want to, you want to be able to like, when people

00:12:40.720 see you outside, they can have an expectation to know who you are outside of the drag

00:12:44.720 and get to know you a little bit, meet you in another space, meet you as who you are.

00:12:49.400 Totally.

00:12:50.040 Yeah.

00:12:50.340 And even Trixie told me, I think Trixie was probably the first drag queen I ever had on, 1.00

00:12:54.400 but she, she told me like, when we come out of drag, like we feel comfortable.

00:12:57.880 Like that's a good thing.

00:12:58.820 Yeah.

00:12:59.060 Because when we're in drag, like we're someone else.

00:13:00.980 Like we have to be our character.

00:13:02.540 And, and then also it's like the magic of putting together all of that.

00:13:08.000 Yeah.

00:13:08.720 Then there's the anxiety of all of that not staying together.

00:13:12.460 So you're like on a set and it's like giving, is the wig down, my nose, and then this, and

00:13:19.940 it's like the bra and like, like the corset is tight and you're like, gotta pee.

00:13:24.640 And it's like giving, and it's giving, then you go, is this woman on drugs at the podcast? 0.96

00:13:30.260 She's fully, she's fully on drugs at the podcast. 0.99

00:13:33.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

00:13:33.420 When I talked to Sasha, I was like, did you, I was like, a lot of them said it was fucking 0.96

00:13:36.960 hard because I know it is.

00:13:38.020 And she's like, I mean, I had a good time.

00:13:39.780 And I was like, well, you did win.

00:13:41.100 And so maybe you're biased. 0.84

00:13:42.100 And I was like, I have had a lot of losers on the pod who lost.

00:13:45.440 Yeah. 0.60

00:13:45.780 On the pod.

00:13:46.220 Yeah. 0.91

00:13:46.820 But you know what, what is, what is, what is, what really is a loser?

00:13:50.380 You know what I mean?

00:13:51.620 They won if they get to come on here.

00:13:53.060 A loser is a person who got an opportunity and then you like squander it. 0.99

00:13:57.220 That's a loser. 0.97

00:13:57.860 You know what I mean? 0.97

00:13:58.120 And I tell that to like literally people who audition for the show, the girls are always 0.99

00:14:00.480 like, girl, what advice do you got for me for like, if I want to get on the show?

00:14:03.160 I'm like, girl, just audition and be yourself.

00:14:05.180 That's really it.

00:14:05.980 I'm like, if you get the opportunity, it's not about, they're like, cause I will do it.

00:14:08.900 I want to win.

00:14:09.480 And I'm like, and for me, I kind of, it's bad advice for me.

00:14:13.540 It sounds like it's bad for me to be saying, cause that's what I did.

00:14:17.040 Unfortunately, I am a winner.

00:14:18.420 But I won.

00:14:19.080 It's like, I was like, when I did a season, I was like, I auditioned for season seven.

00:14:22.440 I didn't hear back.

00:14:23.020 And I was like, I'm not going to audition for the show again until I feel like I'm ready

00:14:26.340 to do the show.

00:14:28.280 But I guess the younger me who sent in the tape, even though the tape was crunchy.

00:14:33.500 And when I watched it back, I looked at, I watched my tape when I did it the second

00:14:36.440 time.

00:14:36.640 I was like, okay, whatever happens, I'm like, I'm not going to hold myself to some sort

00:14:40.380 of standard.

00:14:40.860 I'm just going to record the tape.

00:14:42.340 And have fun.

00:14:43.140 Two days.

00:14:43.880 And finish it and have fun and send it off.

00:14:46.280 And it was so different.

00:14:48.100 The energy was different.

00:14:49.120 And then it worked out.

00:14:50.280 But I'm like, but for anybody else though, I'm like, just try audition for the show.

00:14:54.940 You never know.

00:14:55.760 And it's like, also develop yourself.

00:14:57.200 You send the tape.

00:14:57.820 And it's like, and then it's also, who cares if you do or don't make the show?

00:15:01.100 If you get the show, it's great.

00:15:03.680 You have an opportunity.

00:15:04.320 You have a platform.

00:15:05.000 Use that.

00:15:05.880 Make more for yourself.

00:15:07.000 But then it's also, you cannot, you haven't done Drag Race. 1.00

00:15:11.440 And I'm on your shit. 1.00

00:15:12.900 You know what I mean? 1.00

00:15:13.660 Like, there's so many people that are carving their own path, make your own way.

00:15:17.120 You don't have to like, you could be successful in drag and not do that.

00:15:20.240 There's a lot of drag.

00:15:21.060 RuPaul.

00:15:21.800 RuPaul is gag.

00:15:22.640 The girls don't get this. 1.00

00:15:24.340 RuPaul was not even on Drag Race.

00:15:27.200 That's gaggy.

00:15:28.140 And she's successful. 0.91

00:15:29.140 RuPaul. 0.97

00:15:29.840 Crazy. 0.96

00:15:30.820 That's crazy.

00:15:31.600 She's the pioneer.

00:15:32.380 You know what I mean? 1.00

00:15:32.860 So I'm like, do your shit. 1.00

00:15:34.980 Yeah. 1.00

00:15:35.500 Make a tape.

00:15:36.220 Send it in.

00:15:36.900 If they don't pick you, keep doing yourself.

00:15:38.880 Because like, literally, you're relying on the opinions of people who don't know you.

00:15:44.000 Sometimes like, when you do a tape, your energy might not read well on a tape.

00:15:48.020 Yeah.

00:15:48.380 There's some people that are stunning.

00:15:50.080 And then sometimes they take pictures and you go, girl, you always look crazy in the pictures.

00:15:53.640 But then you see them in person like, you're a goddess.

00:15:56.680 What is going, this is crazy.

00:15:58.200 Or some people, you know what I mean?

00:15:59.240 Yeah.

00:16:00.520 It's just not an accurate measure of whether or not you have the talent.

00:16:03.040 Or who you are or if you're successful or if you're talented.

00:16:05.700 And maybe you might not be talented in that arena.

00:16:07.800 Yeah.

00:16:07.960 Like, some people, like, in a competition setting.

00:16:09.900 I'm like, that's when, like, some girls do the show and they're like, oh my God, I went home and it was so bad.

00:16:13.040 I'm beating myself up.

00:16:13.560 But I'm like, girl, you're art.

00:16:16.660 Yeah.

00:16:17.500 You're art, not competition.

00:16:19.240 You know what I'm saying?

00:16:20.160 Exactly.

00:16:21.000 And even in Drag Race, I'm like, I go to the show.

00:16:22.600 I'm like, I think that's what allowed me to do well and maybe win.

00:16:25.540 Because I'm like, I had it in my mind.

00:16:26.880 I'm like, anybody here could win this for real.

00:16:29.840 Absolutely.

00:16:30.000 You never know.

00:16:30.760 So, like, all it takes is one bad day and you could be out of here.

00:16:33.460 Yeah.

00:16:34.000 So, you just go and you just do your best.

00:16:37.300 Yeah.

00:16:37.620 And see what happens.

00:16:38.580 Absolutely.

00:16:39.460 And I would love to talk about the new season of We're Here.

00:16:42.080 Oh, yes, yes.

00:16:42.500 How was that?

00:16:43.340 Like, how was the experience as a whole filming it?

00:16:46.000 It was really good.

00:16:46.760 But I'm like, to be honest, it was very, like, an eye-opening experience.

00:16:51.340 Like, I'm from a small town.

00:16:52.200 Like, Milwaukee is not really big.

00:16:53.780 It's a city.

00:16:54.540 It's not a really big city. 0.67

00:16:55.540 But you kind of, when we were in Tennessee, I'm like, this, people are really crazy and 0.97

00:17:02.880 racist and, like. 0.55

00:17:04.540 I've only been to Nashville, so I haven't been outside of Nashville.

00:17:07.300 But even when I was there for, like, the few days, it's bad.

00:17:10.640 You can see, it's like, you go.

00:17:12.900 And, like, it's kind of weird.

00:17:13.880 You can, like, feel it when you're walking around.

00:17:15.500 You see a white straight man wearing an American flag shirt.

00:17:18.460 And I'm like, I, it's kind of crazy that now our country's flag is, like, a threat at you.

00:17:24.660 You're like, uh-oh.

00:17:25.680 I'm like, it's like giving.

00:17:26.900 Somebody's like, oh, my God, that's supposed to be a symbol of our freedom.

00:17:29.260 And it's giving, like, this man might attack me.

00:17:31.860 Yeah, it's giving fear.

00:17:32.880 You know what I mean?

00:17:33.300 That's crazy to think about.

00:17:34.800 And we were out there, but I'm like, the best part of that experience, though, is, like,

00:17:39.420 even knowing that it's crazy and it's dangerous and it's, like, wild out there.

00:17:44.040 To see queer people still being, like, whatever is out here, we still going, like, I'm still

00:17:49.460 going to exist.

00:17:50.220 I'm still going to make space for me.

00:17:51.320 I'm like, well, we go into the show.

00:17:52.720 Like, we're here, but it's, like, we're, I feel like more, like, assistance to the people

00:17:57.640 who are there.

00:17:58.140 Like, maybe sometimes, like, helping them see a little bit of confidence that they already

00:18:01.880 have.

00:18:02.500 Yeah.

00:18:02.680 Like, when there was Sasha's drag child from the show, Norman, like, he was running for 0.83

00:18:09.080 mayor of the city.

00:18:10.260 Wow.

00:18:10.820 And they were, like, giving him, like, some, like, somebody shot through his house, shot 0.89

00:18:15.920 through his house because he was gay and running for mayor. 0.97

00:18:19.160 That's crazy. 0.87

00:18:19.820 And it's, like, being in a city like L.A., having the opportunity for us to, like, travel

00:18:26.860 to, sometimes I go to big cities.

00:18:29.520 And no matter what city you're in, people are, there are still closed-minded people.

00:18:32.940 Yeah.

00:18:33.160 But you don't see it as much.

00:18:34.420 And you go out there and I'm, like, I'm gagging that.

00:18:37.280 I'm, like, even from, like, I saw that in my city.

00:18:40.020 Yeah.

00:18:40.200 And I leave that and go away from some of that.

00:18:41.860 And you kind of, not that you forget about it.

00:18:43.620 You know it's there, but you don't see it.

00:18:45.040 So it's not always actively in front of your mind.

00:18:47.400 It's almost like you can never, really, ever get used to it.

00:18:50.300 Ever get used to it.

00:18:51.140 Yeah, you know what I mean?

00:18:51.900 Yeah.

00:18:52.000 And so, I don't know.

00:18:53.500 It's just being out there.

00:18:54.060 It was just very weird.

00:18:55.160 And I'm, like, seeing my drag daughter, Malika, like, her story was, I don't want to, like, 0.99

00:18:58.880 give too much of her story specifically.

00:19:00.460 Her story was so complex.

00:19:01.580 And I really, I feel like if I, I'd like to describe it to people so that they could want

00:19:06.480 to be interested in seeing it.

00:19:07.300 But I'm, like, you really, really, really have to see her story.

00:19:10.800 Yeah.

00:19:11.220 Because it's, like, about the Rainbow Mafia. 1.00

00:19:13.840 There's also parts of our community that a lot of people think they know everything

00:19:18.440 or, like, girl, I'm open-minded.

00:19:20.520 I'm gay.

00:19:21.300 And I'm a good ally.

00:19:22.300 I'm, like, even, I'm, like, as gay people, there are bad allies that are gay.

00:19:25.520 Yeah. 0.97

00:19:25.880 Like, some, there are bad gays. 0.99

00:19:27.240 Yeah. 0.84

00:19:27.600 And, like, and sometimes there are uninformed gays, too, like, for, I don't want to tell her 0.54

00:19:31.880 story.

00:19:32.080 But when you watch the story, there's so many layers to who she is as a person, so much

00:19:36.380 that she's been through.

00:19:37.640 Yeah.

00:19:37.900 And, like, we were going there to, like, oh, we're here, and I'm, like, helping her.

00:19:41.420 And now she's, like, one of my best people in my life.

00:19:44.260 And I'm, like, girl, I'm here, and through your experience and you just sharing your story

00:19:47.700 with me has opened my eyes up to so much.

00:19:51.580 Absolutely.

00:19:51.900 She is, if anybody, if you can watch the show and you see it.

00:19:56.100 Yes, please do.

00:19:56.780 Please do, and also, then, please send a lot of love to Malika specifically.

00:20:00.480 I'm, like, girl, she is going through a lot in her journey, in her life.

00:20:07.200 Yeah.

00:20:07.340 Yeah.

00:20:07.400 And to be in a place like Tennessee, I'm, like, I could only imagine how much she would

00:20:11.000 thrive if she lived in another space.

00:20:12.700 Yeah.

00:20:13.300 If she had been born somewhere else.

00:20:15.140 Somewhere else, how big her personality is, how beautiful her heart is.

00:20:18.660 But it's, like, she's not.

00:20:20.320 Yeah.

00:20:20.560 And she's where she is, and then, like, even with her circumstances in her life, she's still,

00:20:24.280 like, I'm still going to be here.

00:20:26.780 And she's, like, I love country music, I love fishing, I love going, she literally

00:20:32.340 has a kayak.

00:20:32.680 She's a country girl.

00:20:33.600 She's a country girl.

00:20:34.540 Yeah.

00:20:34.640 It's like giving, I'm a country girl, and I don't want to be a city girl.

00:20:38.980 Yeah.

00:20:39.160 I want to be a country girl, and you can't tell me that I can't also be a country girl

00:20:42.540 and have this space.

00:20:43.520 That's the saddest part, too, is, like, chasing them out of what they know and love.

00:20:47.460 What they know and love.

00:20:48.120 Where they're born and raised, and they love being there, they want to be there, and chasing

00:20:53.120 them out of their city to go somewhere so they don't have to live in fear of being 0.99

00:20:55.980 murdered is fucking insane. 1.00

00:20:57.140 It's crazy. 1.00

00:20:57.800 You know what I mean?

00:20:58.100 It's so unfair.

00:20:58.920 Yeah.

00:20:58.980 It's like somebody's forcing to choose your lifestyle for you.

00:21:02.820 Yeah, exactly.

00:21:03.880 They're like, well, if you don't want me to kill you, you gotta move.

00:21:06.000 You gotta move. 0.92

00:21:06.980 Yeah.

00:21:08.240 And I...

00:21:08.560 That's...

00:21:09.360 You know what I mean?

00:21:10.020 What a concept.

00:21:12.220 It's evil.

00:21:13.040 And people...

00:21:13.780 And the thing is that these are the mindset that they have, and I think that even with

00:21:18.340 that mindset, they don't think that...

00:21:20.400 When you say it so plainly like that, I think a lot of people, they go, oh, well, no, that's

00:21:25.380 not what we're saying.

00:21:26.260 No, that's not...

00:21:26.820 But, like, the root of it, that is what it's giving.

00:21:29.340 Yeah. 0.99

00:21:29.580 It's giving, shut up and stay in your house. 1.00

00:21:31.440 Yeah. 0.99

00:21:31.720 Like, I don't want to see you or leave here or there will be problems for you.

00:21:36.800 And I'm like, do you not realize how crazy...

00:21:38.540 If somebody did that to your family or to your kids at school or for whatever reason, it's...

00:21:43.720 And even when we were down there, too, like, the schooling system was...

00:21:46.720 Like, some of the stuff was crazy.

00:21:48.220 They had an election at the school for, like, who was going to be, like, kind of, like,

00:21:52.400 almost, like, principal kind of vibe.

00:21:54.400 An election.

00:21:55.280 And they were literally asking the teacher, like, the educators who were, like, running

00:22:00.580 for this office, this position, for the, I guess, for the principal's office.

00:22:04.680 Okay.

00:22:05.540 Who was running for the principal's office.

00:22:07.820 Were they Republican or Democratic?

00:22:10.580 What does that matter when you're a principal?

00:22:12.260 What does that have to do with, like...

00:22:14.080 Like, educating kids?

00:22:15.420 Like, what does it have to do with molding minds?

00:22:17.340 And specifically more so that the people there would know who's Republican so that they

00:22:24.080 can say, that's the person I'm choosing.

00:22:25.880 Yeah, exactly.

00:22:27.100 Like, they're like, well, before you apply. 0.99

00:22:29.260 Before you apply, we want to know that you hate trans people. 0.98

00:22:33.140 Yeah, I just want to make sure. 0.99

00:22:34.580 Because otherwise...

00:22:35.260 We want to make sure you're not making space for kids here. 0.98

00:22:38.740 Don't make...

00:22:39.440 Hey, we don't want anybody safe. 1.00

00:22:41.980 Yeah, make sure you don't bring that liberal shit over here. 1.00

00:22:44.740 In here. 1.00

00:22:45.040 Yeah, you know what I mean?

00:22:45.740 That's insane.

00:22:46.100 And also, like, spaces where it's, like, in these schools where it's, like, giving...

00:22:49.460 They literally had...

00:22:50.800 Thankfully, they kind of struck it down.

00:22:52.500 But it was, like, they were...

00:22:53.560 The school was working that if students came out or mentioned that they were queer...

00:22:57.500 That the school would call their parents and tell them.

00:23:01.520 And I'm like, you're...

00:23:03.320 Like, how...

00:23:04.280 It infuriates me.

00:23:05.500 It's crazy because I'm like, you have no idea what somebody's at-home situation is.

00:23:10.120 And you out them, they could go home. 0.98

00:23:11.620 Their parents could be so crazy racist or homophobic. 0.99

00:23:14.020 There must be a reason why their parents don't know if they... 1.00

00:23:16.460 You know what I mean.

00:23:16.880 When they haven't told them.

00:23:18.080 So outing them is insane.

00:23:19.600 Yeah.

00:23:20.020 And evil.

00:23:20.760 And evil.

00:23:21.540 Yeah.

00:23:21.840 And I've...

00:23:22.700 Even with all the queens I've had on the show, I've talked a lot about how, like, you

00:23:27.300 know, their war on drag queens, a lot of times...

00:23:30.520 Obviously, it's always just a war on the LGBTQIA plus community, but also specifically trans 0.84

00:23:35.080 people.

00:23:35.320 So it's like, they're like, oh, drag queens are trying to read story time to your kids. 1.00

00:23:40.000 And, like, I've made this joke with every queen, I'm like, every queen I've hung out 0.99

00:23:43.300 with fucking hates kids. 0.99

00:23:44.820 Right. 1.00

00:23:44.920 So, like, they don't want to talk to your kids.

00:23:47.700 I...

00:23:47.940 Like, house...

00:23:48.760 Look, you know what?

00:23:49.420 I love kids.

00:23:53.760 For the most part.

00:23:54.780 Child, but even my shirt, I'm not like...

00:23:56.600 I'm like...

00:23:57.380 I'm like...

00:23:58.500 My mouth is bad.

00:23:59.680 Yeah.

00:24:00.740 You know what I'm saying?

00:24:01.420 And, like, it's crazy.

00:24:02.440 And you know what the tea is?

00:24:03.280 There are some sickening drag queens that are amazing with kids and reading books with kids 1.00

00:24:07.880 and doing that kind of thing.

00:24:08.640 And they are, like, speaking up and standing up for kids.

00:24:11.240 And there's a lot of us, they're like, get away from our kids.

00:24:13.400 I'm like, get your kids away from me. 0.91

00:24:15.060 Yeah.

00:24:15.420 Like, a lot of them are like, I don't mind them.

00:24:17.220 I just don't want them at my show and I don't want them when I'm working.

00:24:19.800 Or when I'm like...

00:24:20.580 You know what I mean?

00:24:21.240 Or if they're in that space, they can be in that space.

00:24:25.000 And I'm like...

00:24:25.480 But it's like, again, it's for...

00:24:28.840 People, if you're not in...

00:24:30.640 If you don't like something, then you don't have to like it.

00:24:34.020 Exactly.

00:24:34.100 Because you don't have to tell other people what they have to do or do it.

00:24:37.300 Or create narratives that are not true.

00:24:38.780 Or create narratives.

00:24:39.480 You know what I mean?

00:24:39.920 And I'm like...

00:24:40.620 So even when we talk about, like, drag shows and kids coming there, I'm like, even for

00:24:44.240 me, I'm like, I know that...

00:24:46.160 Even though I don't really...

00:24:46.980 I'm like, I just do my...

00:24:47.760 I want to do my show.

00:24:48.760 Yeah.

00:24:48.820 If I wanted to be sexy tonight, I wouldn't have to think about, like, that.

00:24:51.860 I'm like, I...

00:24:52.800 But also, I know that there was a lot of queer children that, like, sometimes they...

00:24:57.640 Like, I could only imagine that if there was a drag show or anything that was queer and 1.00

00:25:05.080 I was a kid and I'm like, I could be in that space and I could then feel like...

00:25:09.540 You think about this realistically, there are not, like, a lot of GSAs at school.

00:25:12.800 There's not a lot of spaces for kids.

00:25:14.060 So when you're growing up and you're queer, it's like, how do I find myself?

00:25:19.840 Yeah.

00:25:20.140 Like, how do I know how this pans out?

00:25:21.220 Even if I'm just seeing...

00:25:22.340 Even if I'm seeing a drag show, it's like giving... 0.78

00:25:24.520 Oh, my God.

00:25:24.920 Now I'm realizing that there's other stuff that I could do.

00:25:27.660 Absolutely.

00:25:28.040 There's options for me as a queer person.

00:25:29.520 Yeah.

00:25:30.040 But...

00:25:30.440 A community.

00:25:31.360 A community.

00:25:32.140 Yeah.

00:25:32.260 And so, like, in that space, I get it.

00:25:33.780 But also, even kids that are not queer... 0.50

00:25:35.760 Yeah.

00:25:36.140 Coming in and, like, coming in and enjoying drag, it's like, you can...

00:25:39.020 There's room for that.

00:25:39.660 But also, at the same time...

00:25:41.660 It's just...

00:25:43.240 I want to do the city girls.

00:25:44.220 Yeah.

00:25:45.000 Tonight.

00:25:45.600 It's very possible that all these truths can be true at the same time.

00:25:49.280 At the same time.

00:25:50.100 Yeah.

00:25:51.340 Past that, I'm like, everyone in the queer community, like, they just want you to leave 1.00

00:25:56.220 them alone.

00:25:57.560 They don't want... 1.00

00:25:58.380 Just leave them the fuck alone. 1.00

00:26:00.820 It's just like... 1.00

00:26:01.280 They don't need anything else. 1.00

00:26:02.400 Like, they're not asking for anything other than to fuck off. 1.00

00:26:04.980 All I want to do is get up in the morning and do stuff that everybody else is doing. 1.00

00:26:11.220 And not be bothered.

00:26:12.780 And, like, even, like, you know, it's a crazy thing, I feel like, with, like, a drag queen, 1.00

00:26:17.260 I'm like, we have a platform, so it's very important for me to make sure that I'm using

00:26:21.280 my platform and speaking up.

00:26:22.320 But I'm like, also, we are not the gay mascot, gay mascot, gay mascot, educated, gay, every,

00:26:29.880 knowing everything.

00:26:30.820 And for everything and everyone.

00:26:31.940 Everything and everyone.

00:26:33.020 So, like, sometimes there will be things that, like, even as queer people, I'm constantly

00:26:38.360 looking for information about my community or even people that are not in my community

00:26:41.980 to see how I could be a better person.

00:26:43.300 But I'm like, there are things that we do not know.

00:26:45.220 And when drag queens don't know certain things, we do not need people coming on our, like, 1.00

00:26:51.220 coming on social media and being like, you're a horrible person. 0.94

00:26:54.160 You should have known... 0.98

00:26:55.020 I'm like, you don't know everything.

00:26:57.320 I know what you know most times.

00:26:59.280 I know what you know.

00:27:00.100 And it's like, sometimes there is new information that comes up.

00:27:02.360 And it's like...

00:27:02.820 Totally.

00:27:03.540 If there is a space for that, then give me that.

00:27:07.260 Yeah.

00:27:07.460 And say, hey, I love you.

00:27:10.360 This is some information you might not have.

00:27:12.600 Totally.

00:27:13.420 And then, so, and then if I get that information from you and I go, you know what? 1.00

00:27:16.660 And say something crazy and stupid, you go, now, wait a minute. 1.00

00:27:19.240 Now you didn't know. 1.00

00:27:20.320 Yeah.

00:27:20.620 You don't...

00:27:21.060 But then you can get out crazy.

00:27:21.700 You can't assume that people, they know everything.

00:27:24.100 And it's like, also, I'm like, it's better to have an ally than, like, an enemy, I feel

00:27:28.760 like.

00:27:29.040 In some ways, I'm like, it's easy to just educate people.

00:27:32.020 I agree.

00:27:33.020 Just tell, like, if you know something that you, if you know something, share it with

00:27:36.440 people, but don't assume that everybody's walking around with the same information.

00:27:39.700 Absolutely.

00:27:40.360 Especially if we're all, like, we can all have a general understanding of where we're all

00:27:44.860 standing.

00:27:45.320 Yeah.

00:27:45.620 Right?

00:27:45.880 So, like, you know we're on the same side.

00:27:48.460 So, if I don't know something that you do, feel free to tell me.

00:27:51.560 Sometimes there's minor details that I don't know.

00:27:53.860 And you can tell me, and then I'll be like, I didn't know that.

00:27:56.100 That's, thank you so much for sharing it with me. 1.00

00:27:58.020 It's the accusatory shit. 0.99

00:27:59.580 Yeah. 1.00

00:27:59.820 Or, like, inflammatory shit where you're like, okay, now hold on. 0.97

00:28:02.460 Like, you're acting like... 0.99

00:28:03.200 It's the making a crazy post.

00:28:05.300 Yeah.

00:28:05.540 And then being like, I'm not trying to come after them.

00:28:10.440 I'm like, well then...

00:28:11.480 Well, what's the point of this thing? 0.95

00:28:12.300 And it's like giving, but then you take a drag queen who is just, sometimes just a gay 1.00

00:28:18.400 or could be your trans sister or trans brother or could be a person. 0.88

00:28:24.360 Yeah.

00:28:24.580 And then they don't have a piece of information and somehow they are held to another standard.

00:28:30.040 Like, so many other people in your family or your friends that are also queer don't have 1.00

00:28:34.520 the same information and you are not making a post putting your mama on the internet.

00:28:37.940 T, tell them.

00:28:39.140 You know what I'm saying?

00:28:39.520 Exactly.

00:28:39.640 So, it's like, give information, educate people, give people space.

00:28:43.580 To learn.

00:28:43.880 Everybody's not going to know everything. 0.99

00:28:44.760 But then also, there are some dumb ass people out here in the world that you give them 1.00

00:28:48.740 information and they keep doing crazy shit and say crazy shit. 1.00

00:28:52.460 And then the... 1.00

00:28:52.720 And we should all know by now who those people are.

00:28:54.560 And who those people...

00:28:55.360 And then the gag is, is they know who those people are.

00:28:57.880 And then they still go buy their products and they still go do all types of stuff.

00:29:01.260 But then you take a drag queen or somebody in your community that could also still be

00:29:05.040 helpful if you gave them that information and try to ruin them, but then go buy a product

00:29:08.440 from somebody else that told you they completely hate you.

00:29:10.940 Yeah, that everyone knows is awful. 0.55

00:29:12.640 That you know is awful.

00:29:13.600 Yeah, like, it's very, it's a very fine balance.

00:29:16.340 But I feel like the fact that people like you and the other queens, like, especially on

00:29:21.220 We're Here, like the show We're Here in general, just from a representation standpoint is so

00:29:26.980 important.

00:29:27.780 Thank you.

00:29:28.260 And like, I truly am so like, happy and like, glad that we're moving in a positive direction.

00:29:35.920 Like, we're moving slowly, but at least we're moving forward.

00:29:39.340 Yeah, and like, and the thing is, like, is like that so many steps forward.

00:29:43.600 So many steps.

00:29:44.080 I feel like these days, it feels like we're taking like, a baby step forward and like

00:29:48.900 20 back and a size 15 back.

00:29:51.220 Like, but it's like, it does start to feel like that nowadays.

00:29:55.840 Yeah, it starts to feel like that.

00:29:57.280 But I'm like, like you said, progress is a slow thing.

00:29:59.540 And it's like, the more like, like the same way I'm like, the standards that we hold other

00:30:04.560 people to are the standards we have to hold ourselves to.

00:30:07.840 And then that's how we can make progress a little bit more swift.

00:30:10.220 Like, right now, this election stuff is giving crazy scary.

00:30:15.040 Yeah.

00:30:15.280 It's giving crazy scary.

00:30:16.440 And it's like, reality is, and like, people want to be like, girl, tell people to go vote

00:30:19.740 and who to vote for.

00:30:20.300 I'm like, girl, right now, being honest, like, it's just, it's a very scary situation for

00:30:24.840 everybody.

00:30:25.480 Like, everything is crazy.

00:30:27.700 Well, and it's, and it's one of those, I feel like that's, this is one of those situations

00:30:31.740 where like, we as like, as allies, or people who are generally good people, right?

00:30:37.500 Like, we're all trying to move in the right direction together.

00:30:41.360 Attacking each other doesn't work.

00:30:43.640 Because there's, it feels like there's so few of us.

00:30:46.340 There's not.

00:30:46.840 There's plenty of us.

00:30:48.060 We need to band together.

00:30:49.780 They're trying to cause dissension amongst us.

00:30:51.840 Nobody's, nobody's making a game plan.

00:30:54.120 Yeah, I know.

00:30:55.040 Let's streamline.

00:30:55.440 There is no game plan it's giving.

00:30:57.780 Well, yeah, I feel like, because he's older and you're like, well, or.

00:31:01.740 Well, because this, and this one, and this, and like, it's like, we all feel the same

00:31:05.180 way.

00:31:05.500 Yeah.

00:31:05.860 We're feeling the same, minor details, but what are we going to do now together?

00:31:10.720 Let's streamline.

00:31:11.160 What are we going to do?

00:31:11.980 Let's all line up.

00:31:12.980 Let's all get on our Zoom.

00:31:14.120 You know what I mean?

00:31:14.660 Let's get on our Zoom.

00:31:15.560 We all have to get on our Zoom.

00:31:16.700 Let's go back to, no, let's not go back to 2020. 0.99

00:31:20.220 Let's go back to 2020 and get on our damn Zooms. 0.98

00:31:22.400 But realistically, it was like, we got to come together and like, start like, maybe collectively 0.98

00:31:28.360 thinking, talking, and listening versus being like, this is what I feel about the election

00:31:32.860 and I don't care what you say, or this is how I feel about trans rights and I don't care 0.99

00:31:37.000 what you say.

00:31:38.180 That's where I'm standing.

00:31:39.340 And so when you're talking, I'm going to keep talking over you and telling you what I'm

00:31:41.800 saying.

00:31:42.080 And I'm like, we're not even having conversations anymore.

00:31:45.660 Yeah, we're not communicating.

00:31:46.360 We're not even talking.

00:31:47.300 We're talking at each other, not to each other.

00:31:49.400 And half the time, we're not even talking at each other.

00:31:50.940 We're talking to ourselves out loud in the direction of other people.

00:31:54.380 Yeah, like, we don't even need another person.

00:31:56.300 And it's giving, you heard yourself say this, I literally, you talk this conversation with

00:32:00.580 other people.

00:32:01.340 You keep doing it.

00:32:02.220 You're practicing this.

00:32:03.400 You're just rehearsing.

00:32:03.960 You're rehearsing the argument that you're going to keep giving to people all night in

00:32:07.740 a club while we're drinking and drunk.

00:32:11.180 You know what I mean?

00:32:11.880 It's like giving.

00:32:12.640 And even in that place, maybe let's drink and drunk and then come up with a game plan.

00:32:16.320 But it's like giving.

00:32:17.680 Again, let's streamline.

00:32:18.900 Yeah, it's like giving.

00:32:19.660 Let's link up.

00:32:20.300 Thinking about actively, what can we do?

00:32:22.060 How can we move forward?

00:32:22.820 How can we move together?

00:32:23.940 Yeah, in a positive and somewhat safe direction.

00:32:27.340 And I think even during We're Here, that's when I'm watching the show.

00:32:30.840 Sometimes in my mind, that show is not even necessarily a game plan, but it's like to open

00:32:35.840 your eyes to know how connected that we are.

00:32:38.380 Absolutely.

00:32:38.980 And when you watch a show like We're Here, I'm like, we talk about intersectionality,

00:32:44.440 like how you make this space for that.

00:32:46.660 And when you do We're Here, I'm like, there's no way, when I watch Malika's story, that you

00:32:50.060 go, that she's a black trans woman in Tennessee and not just about her queerness, but her

00:32:58.280 blackness is also tied to that.

00:32:59.700 And there's so many different moving parts that like you watch the show and you just you

00:33:03.980 watch the show and you think like, oh, my God, this is what's happening in the world.

00:33:06.580 And it opens your eyes to be like, maybe we need to do like to start to change something.

00:33:11.400 We need to change something.

00:33:12.400 Yeah.

00:33:12.600 I mean, it's like education more than anything.

00:33:15.960 It like past like it doesn't matter whether or not someone is queer or isn't or is trans

00:33:22.040 or isn't.

00:33:22.560 Like what matters is understanding that not everyone in the world is exactly like you.

00:33:26.900 And it's they're not like exactly like the three people you see all the time.

00:33:31.040 Like the world is so much bigger and so much more complex.

00:33:33.560 And it's like giving boring, boring as people that want the same friend.

00:33:38.160 Exactly.

00:33:38.680 How do you like literally there are no there.

00:33:41.020 And this is no shade because I know some gays that go out and they have five of the same

00:33:45.900 one friend.

00:33:47.680 It's just like you got five.

00:33:49.420 You got five of the same friend.

00:33:52.120 Y'all like all cloned.

00:33:53.560 You're all like boring, kind of giving same outfit, giving, oh, I hate our shirt. 0.98

00:33:58.960 I hate this. 0.81

00:33:59.580 I don't you don't like I'm like, what do you why are you here?

00:34:02.340 If you hate the night, then stay at home with your same five friends.

00:34:08.160 I literally laugh, too, because I tell my friends all the time, like I'm like all my 0.97

00:34:12.560 friends are gay.

00:34:13.700 So it's like I'm everyone's token straight.

00:34:16.400 Like it's just I'm their straight friend.

00:34:18.200 And they're like, I just realized.

00:34:20.200 Yeah, I'm a token straight.

00:34:21.640 That's what I am.

00:34:22.460 That's my life.

00:34:23.240 I'm talking ally.

00:34:24.120 Yeah, exactly.

00:34:26.000 Like I all my gay friends literally are always like, I never feel like I'm hanging out with

00:34:29.420 a straight person when I'm with you.

00:34:30.520 I'm like, that's a compliment.

00:34:31.540 Yeah, but I appreciate that.

00:34:32.720 But but I also feel like because it's like in a way that like I feel like sometimes there's

00:34:37.340 not judgment.

00:34:38.400 Yeah, or there's not like because I feel like sometimes when people like, oh, I'm an ally 1.00

00:34:41.660 and I'm like, don't be bringing that straight ass shit over here. 0.99

00:34:44.700 And then like then like acting like trying to hold queer people to a straight standard. 1.00

00:34:49.880 Yeah.

00:34:50.120 If you're an ally, girl, you gonna see sometimes it's like going to the club. 0.99

00:34:53.860 You gonna see some shit that you you gonna see some shit. 0.99

00:34:56.660 Girl, if you're not ready for that and lock in, girl, girl, lock in and not saying that 1.00

00:35:00.640 like not saying that not saying that like it's giving crazy stuff that like you need to be 0.99

00:35:04.640 exposed to some kind of shit that's like dementing your life. 0.99

00:35:07.460 No, it's just it's queer culture. 1.00

00:35:09.000 It's a different space.

00:35:09.940 It's a different space.

00:35:10.960 And it's like and to be an ally and like even when I come like this is the thing I was like

00:35:13.980 having a conversation about this like sometimes like with my family, my family is now so much

00:35:17.740 more open to all of the stuff that I do.

00:35:19.740 But I'm like before when I was growing up and I'm like I would invite them to like shows

00:35:23.540 and stuff I would do or I would invite them to like the club with me.

00:35:27.440 Yeah.

00:35:27.580 And sometimes they would not come and it's like giving.

00:35:29.180 Oh, that's not the thing I don't do.

00:35:30.300 I don't really do that.

00:35:30.820 I'm like, but when I'm at the house with y'all and the homies and everybody's chilling and we 0.98

00:35:35.020 watching boxing, I don't want to do that shit neither. 0.98

00:35:37.460 I'm participating in your culture. 0.99

00:35:40.220 This is a weird culture for me, honey, but I'm in here and I'm doing it.

00:35:44.320 And so like my but my family will come and they come into my things.

00:35:47.160 I'm like, so it's like sometimes my brother, my brother came to Vegas for my birthday with

00:35:52.140 my mother and I was like, so I'm having a birthday party at this bar, Queen Bar.

00:35:58.320 And thank you.

00:35:59.140 They threw me a sickening badge.

00:36:01.400 Period.

00:36:01.820 But it was also the owner of Scruff was there and we're both Sages.

00:36:05.300 So we were doing a joint birthday situation.

00:36:08.660 And because it was the owner of Scruff, it somehow morphed into like a circuit-y situation.

00:36:14.500 And so it's me in the backseat of my car looking back, explaining to my brother like, these are

00:36:19.740 poppers.

00:36:20.920 And if you see anybody in the club sniffing things, that's not a drug.

00:36:25.000 But people will be doing those too.

00:36:26.840 But that's not that.

00:36:28.900 You're like preparing them.

00:36:30.340 Yeah.

00:36:30.640 And I'm like, and I'm like, and if somebody offers you some, that's not for you.

00:36:35.840 Yeah.

00:36:36.340 Don't take it.

00:36:37.420 That you, I'm like, it's going to do nothing for you.

00:36:39.700 They're really convincing.

00:36:40.560 Don't fall for that.

00:36:41.160 Yeah.

00:36:41.460 It's like, but you're like, it's like you come in that space and you're like, you know,

00:36:44.120 this is going to be, it's going to be another experience.

00:36:46.220 And I'm like, it's the same way when I'm there with y'all.

00:36:47.980 And like, just seeing how people live.

00:36:50.500 Yeah.

00:36:50.860 Everybody is not the same.

00:36:52.140 We don't, and that thing that adds.

00:36:53.220 And it's way more fun.

00:36:54.200 If I'm being honest.

00:36:55.280 It adds texture to your life.

00:36:56.180 It really does.

00:36:57.240 It's way more fun.

00:36:58.100 And that's why, even when I tell, when people are super homophobic or transphobic, I always

00:37:02.120 think like, I always go and look at like what they, how they kind of talk, how they operate,

00:37:06.240 all that. 1.00

00:37:06.540 And I'm like, you don't even know that half the shit you like, half the shit you say, 1.00

00:37:11.220 like the shit that you're interested in, all of that stems from the gay community. 1.00

00:37:16.000 I'm like, and sometimes you'll have people that are like, oh, I'm so sick of these drag 1.00

00:37:20.520 queens, girl. 0.98

00:37:22.020 And I'm like, even going girl at the end of that. 0.98

00:37:24.460 And I'm like, you can't say that until you're sick of, these, girl, these gays are getting 1.00

00:37:29.020 on my nerves, girl. 1.00

00:37:30.200 I'm like, you're a gay. 1.00

00:37:32.960 You're a gay. 1.00

00:37:33.820 What? 1.00

00:37:34.040 Are you serious?

00:37:35.120 They're everywhere.

00:37:35.860 They're everywhere.

00:37:36.580 You're everywhere you look, girl. 0.98

00:37:37.760 Like from the swamps of Louisiana, literally even gay penguins in Antarctica, baby. 1.00

00:37:44.020 Gays are literally everywhere, girl. 0.97

00:37:45.520 In every species. 0.99

00:37:46.140 Every, every species, every, everything, every, everywhere, every, everywhere. 0.99

00:37:50.860 It's just like, that's one of those things where I'm like, you think gay people just popped 0.96

00:37:54.180 up yesterday?

00:37:55.140 I do.

00:37:56.600 And I'm sick of it.

00:37:58.660 We don't need any more.

00:37:59.940 We're okay.

00:38:00.380 We've had fun.

00:38:01.600 This was fun.

00:38:02.540 We reached our cap.

00:38:03.380 This was really fun. 0.93

00:38:04.500 But we need to, we need to turn the gay down a little bit. 1.00

00:38:08.180 Turn it down.

00:38:09.160 I always think too, that like when people have friend groups that have no variety at

00:38:14.400 all, I'm like, God, what do you guys talk about?

00:38:17.200 That's what I'm saying. 0.98

00:38:18.480 I'm like, literally I was about to ask you and I'm like, shut up. 0.94

00:38:20.560 Cause I talk too much sometimes.

00:38:21.520 I'm like, which friend are you in the group?

00:38:23.160 But then that's what I'm saying.

00:38:24.320 When it's one of the same time, I'm like, nobody's the funny one.

00:38:27.280 Nobody's like the one that bumps into stuff.

00:38:29.700 Yeah.

00:38:30.220 Everybody's boring.

00:38:32.620 The scotch one.

00:38:34.980 Everybody's the one with their polo tucked in.

00:38:37.000 Everyone's scotch on the rocks.

00:38:38.100 All of you.

00:38:38.540 Every, everybody's wearing boating shoes today.

00:38:42.180 No, let's not do that.

00:38:45.480 None of you coordinated outfits.

00:38:47.040 Like that's at the very least of grouping.

00:38:48.740 Brown boating shoes with a black belt.

00:38:51.980 Cute.

00:38:52.640 Nothing worse.

00:38:53.380 You know what I'm saying?

00:38:54.140 Yeah.

00:38:54.760 The frat boy starter pack.

00:38:56.300 Frat boy starter. 1.00

00:38:57.160 I'm like giving frat boy at the gay club is crazy. 0.99

00:39:00.380 Nobody wants that. 0.98

00:39:01.280 We're not doing that.

00:39:02.420 This is not a college bar.

00:39:03.960 We're not doing that.

00:39:06.100 I've even like, uh, I make this joke.

00:39:08.380 On every episode with any of my friends who are gay or drag queens or both.

00:39:13.160 I always tell them that the girls, the girls too, who like, cause you know, girls, some

00:39:18.260 pick me girls, like they're really in, they love a gay friend.

00:39:22.240 They love a gay friend.

00:39:23.760 They're like, oh my God.

00:39:24.920 Gay people love me.

00:39:26.300 I know.

00:39:26.980 All of my friends are literally gay. 0.87

00:39:29.340 And I'm like, who? 0.98

00:39:32.000 You said, I could tell.

00:39:33.100 Who?

00:39:33.780 I know.

00:39:34.120 I could talk to someone for five minutes and I, I'd be like, I know for a fact you don't

00:39:37.180 know one gay person.

00:39:38.120 And, and, or girl, you, you did it on that show.

00:39:42.940 All of your runways were great.

00:39:45.240 Girl, what did you say your name was again?

00:39:47.660 I'm like, you don't even know.

00:39:50.860 How do you know?

00:39:51.480 How do you pull?

00:39:52.020 You're pulling references of runways from where?

00:39:54.500 If you don't know my name, this is crazy.

00:39:56.840 I've told my friends, I'm like, you know what? 0.99

00:39:58.960 I know for a fact, like if I see people like who say that shit, I know for a fact that you 0.99

00:40:03.480 don't have any, yeah, you don't have any gay friends. 1.00

00:40:05.920 You don't interact with gay people ever, let alone drag queens. 1.00

00:40:08.340 Right. 1.00

00:40:08.920 And I was like, and I know for a fact if you did, they would fucking hate you. 1.00

00:40:12.220 I love gays. 1.00

00:40:13.300 I say, you're here with five women that are straight and you said you have all your friends 0.98

00:40:18.740 are gay.

00:40:19.260 Where are they at? 1.00

00:40:20.040 At the gay club.

00:40:20.900 None of them are here with you.

00:40:22.460 What are you talking about?

00:40:25.000 I know.

00:40:25.380 Trixie always makes that joke about girls, straight girls in the party city wigs at the drag brunch 1.00

00:40:31.080 or bachelorette parties.

00:40:33.320 Absolutely.

00:40:34.140 Yeah.

00:40:34.640 And they're going at the party city wigs, like one's pink, one's purple, one's blue.

00:40:40.460 And all of them came straight out the bag.

00:40:42.600 They're the most grabby, like too much grabby.

00:40:46.080 Don't tip enough.

00:40:46.880 What's going on there?

00:40:47.760 This is my, this is my, this is my favorite, this is my favorite straight woman in the universe 0.83

00:40:53.680 is the straight woman who is knocking over drinks and she is at the bar getting another 1.00

00:41:01.880 shot. 1.00

00:41:02.600 Fucked up. 0.99

00:41:03.280 And while she's at the bar, while you're hosting, she's reaching over, grabbing you. 1.00

00:41:06.860 Yeah.

00:41:08.000 Going, my friend's getting married.

00:41:10.940 She's over there.

00:41:12.860 This is her bachelorette party.

00:41:14.960 She's getting married.

00:41:15.800 I'm like, why are you the drunkest woman? 0.99

00:41:17.640 Why are you like, why are you calmed down?

00:41:20.280 Did she just get here?

00:41:21.040 And I'm like, literally, she's like, girl, she's, she trusts me.

00:41:23.540 I ain't putting all this together.

00:41:24.620 I said, well, it's falling apart.

00:41:26.100 Go back over there and sit down.

00:41:27.760 Or nobody at the table is getting entertained today. 1.00

00:41:30.380 Go back, your drunk ass back over there and sit down. 1.00

00:41:33.520 And stop touching my dress. 1.00

00:41:34.680 This costs $2,000. 0.99

00:41:36.240 I'm tearing my shit up. 0.98

00:41:37.520 And you ain't even, and you ain't even gave a single yet. 0.99

00:41:39.740 That's what I said.

00:41:40.340 Not a single.

00:41:41.120 They're the most high maintenance and grabby and tip the worst.

00:41:44.180 Napping at the bartenders.

00:41:45.420 Napping at the waiters.

00:41:46.720 I'm like.

00:41:47.240 Requesting songs.

00:41:48.320 Requesting.

00:41:48.980 Hey, is anybody going to do Katy Perry tonight?

00:41:50.800 No, we're not.

00:41:52.480 Girl, this is a city girl's brunch, mama.

00:41:55.220 Everybody's taking, we're taking our titties out today, girl.

00:41:58.400 That's what we're doing.

00:41:59.640 So prepare.

00:42:00.840 And no, no children are welcome at this brunch.

00:42:03.640 I know. 0.99

00:42:04.340 I've told people, I'm like, if you actually hung out with drag queens, you would kill yourself, mama. 1.00

00:42:08.840 Girl. 0.99

00:42:09.060 They're going to be so mean to you, and you're going to hate it.

00:42:11.420 It's giving.

00:42:11.800 And then it's giving also.

00:42:13.400 And we're going to hate you, too, if you don't know how to be mean back.

00:42:16.220 Exactly.

00:42:17.400 That's what I've told people.

00:42:18.440 I'm like, why do you think they love me? 1.00

00:42:19.880 Because I'm a cunt. 1.00

00:42:21.180 Hello. 0.99

00:42:22.420 I'm like, some people that bring their friend around, they're like, she's so sweet.

00:42:25.400 I'm like, that's nice.

00:42:27.060 I'll never see her again.

00:42:27.620 Don't bring your sweet friend around. 0.93

00:42:29.820 I want your friend that if I'm walking and she go, girl, don't wear that again. 1.00

00:42:34.180 And I'm like, thank you, bitch. 1.00

00:42:35.740 Because you know what the gag is? 0.99

00:42:36.760 I was looking in the mirror, and I felt like this was ugly.

00:42:39.280 But I still was like, well, let's just get out and go.

00:42:42.280 And only one here is the straight girl with the nasty mouth that is good enough to tell you that what you're – when she say it, and you go, that's right. 1.00

00:42:52.060 And you look at your friends, look at all the gays with you and go, lying-ass bitches. 1.00

00:42:57.400 Fake-ass hoes. 1.00

00:42:58.480 Not real friends. 0.98

00:42:59.340 Yeah.

00:43:00.060 And then no shade, but that'd be me.

00:43:01.720 Then I'm like over off in the corner with the Drew, getting drunk now, avoiding all of my friends.

00:43:08.600 And then we probably might end up together at an afters.

00:43:12.180 Sorry.

00:43:13.100 It's what it is. 0.94

00:43:13.820 And now I hijacked my gay's best friend. 0.99

00:43:16.180 That is crazy. 0.99

00:43:18.180 To hijack another gay straight friend is insane. 0.99

00:43:22.060 Yeah. 1.00

00:43:22.380 And that's why I'm like, I am – they love a mean bitch. 1.00

00:43:26.720 I feel like your community – you're like not one gay's best straight girl. 1.00

00:43:31.820 You're like the community –

00:43:33.180 Period.

00:43:34.340 The gay community's girl. 0.79

00:43:35.640 Yeah.

00:43:35.760 Yeah, even when I was – I went on Trixie's podcast like two weeks ago or so, and she was like, I genuinely cannot believe you're straight every time I hang out with you.

00:43:44.080 I was like, I know.

00:43:44.840 It's tragic.

00:43:45.440 I feel like you hate it.

00:43:46.600 Yeah.

00:43:47.860 What – and it's funny you said that.

00:43:49.600 And if it's a choice.

00:43:50.300 That's the same way I feel about being gay.

00:43:51.460 I'm like –

00:43:53.460 I didn't choose – I'm trapped in this body.

00:43:56.860 I didn't choose this –

00:43:57.940 I'm shackled to this.

00:43:58.960 This switch.

00:43:59.560 I know.

00:43:59.940 I don't want to switch like this.

00:44:01.240 I want to wear boating shoes.

00:44:02.460 It's so much easier that way.

00:44:04.880 It is. 0.99

00:44:05.320 But now I'm trapped in a gay body. 1.00

00:44:06.620 I have to wear beautiful things and like –

00:44:08.920 And be absolutely stunning and talented.

00:44:11.180 Yeah.

00:44:11.320 Don't you ever want to just not be straight?

00:44:14.420 Yeah.

00:44:14.920 All the time.

00:44:15.620 Just crawl out of that body. 1.00

00:44:16.940 Yeah.

00:44:17.960 If I could choose, I would.

00:44:19.980 If you could choose.

00:44:20.900 Yeah.

00:44:21.060 You know what I'm saying?

00:44:21.560 It's like –

00:44:22.080 Absolutely.

00:44:22.740 And I feel like you just –

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00:44:51.260 You have so much more – there's so much more color and laughter and fun and like vivid

00:44:57.360 like just experiences when you have gay people in your life. 0.99

00:45:01.400 Like it's just like life is so fucking boring. 0.98

00:45:03.540 It's like – I just feel like in general, in general, I'm like too much of the same 0.67

00:45:08.560 is tiring.

00:45:10.500 Yeah.

00:45:10.540 I'm like sometimes I'll like – there's even drag queens that are like, girl, I can't 1.00

00:45:14.160 believe you followed me.

00:45:14.980 I didn't even know you like this kind of drag. 1.00

00:45:17.580 I didn't know you like spooky drag.

00:45:18.720 I'm like, what did that mean?

00:45:19.720 I'm like, I like art.

00:45:20.860 Yeah, totally.

00:45:21.240 And I like to be entertained.

00:45:22.540 Absolutely.

00:45:23.040 And you're beautiful and entertaining.

00:45:25.400 Yeah.

00:45:25.600 And – or you're very scary and entertaining and I love that too and it's like you don't

00:45:29.960 like –

00:45:30.220 Just it – art elicits emotion.

00:45:31.900 It doesn't matter what it is.

00:45:32.480 It's like you want to – you want to collect – I feel like you want to collect experiences

00:45:36.420 and people and emotions and like – I don't – your life is boring if you just like all

00:45:42.260 the walls are white.

00:45:43.180 Yeah. 0.99

00:45:43.520 Like the most homophobic and transphobic people in the world look like they have the most boring 1.00

00:45:48.800 fucking walls. 1.00

00:45:48.900 I mean, literally no shade. 0.99

00:45:52.400 Unfortunately, right now the Republican Natural Convention is in Milwaukee.

00:45:56.100 And I'm like, the number of burned out blonde units at that event is terrible. 1.00

00:46:03.580 Six-13s?

00:46:04.720 Terrible.

00:46:05.240 But these are the people that are going, we don't like people with vivid personalities

00:46:08.780 and we want – and I'm like, yeah, you don't.

00:46:12.160 Of course you don't.

00:46:13.060 You don't.

00:46:13.380 And you also don't want – you don't want products either.

00:46:17.760 You don't want nothing.

00:46:19.100 Yeah.

00:46:19.300 You don't want nothing.

00:46:20.280 I know.

00:46:20.560 It's the same when they're like, oh, that's just – I could never wear that much makeup.

00:46:23.580 Obviously.

00:46:24.160 Look at you.

00:46:24.520 You give – I can never wear that much makeup.

00:46:26.620 You can't, but you should.

00:46:29.660 You should look into it.

00:46:31.280 You should.

00:46:31.420 Or maybe not.

00:46:33.200 Yeah.

00:46:33.660 Or maybe not, but –

00:46:35.040 Well, obviously.

00:46:35.980 That's what I think.

00:46:36.660 Some people don't need – you don't – nobody needs makeup.

00:46:40.280 But some of them people often like, girl.

00:46:42.820 Maybe look into it.

00:46:43.600 Even the energy, the energy is so ugly that it looks like it just pours.

00:46:47.820 I'm like – I got some friends with burnt-out wigs, and I'm burnt-out hair, too.

00:46:54.040 But the personality makes the hair shine and shine.

00:46:57.620 Girl, they throw their hair.

00:46:58.940 Girl, they got a 60-inch unit that's, like, perfectly made.

00:47:03.380 When you see them people, they, like, whistling at Trump and winking, and hair just burnt out

00:47:08.640 and just look tired.

00:47:09.940 And you – I'm like, girl.

00:47:11.000 Girl, look at you. 1.00

00:47:12.060 It's not fierce.

00:47:12.780 Yeah.

00:47:13.120 It's not fierce.

00:47:13.960 Of course you don't like anyone that looks different from you.

00:47:16.740 You don't like – I'm like, all of y'all are wearing business suits.

00:47:19.520 Ugh.

00:47:20.440 I know.

00:47:20.900 And, like, burnt-out hair, red suits, blue suits.

00:47:24.260 Red skin.

00:47:25.020 Red skin.

00:47:25.880 Burnt something.

00:47:26.880 Did you ever see that video of these people that came from Canada?

00:47:31.560 Mm-hmm.

00:47:32.220 And they came from Canada, but they were, like, down in, like, Florida, trying to, like,

00:47:37.040 outside of, like, an abortion clinic.

00:47:38.720 Oh.

00:47:38.980 Like, this person, like, was roasting them bad.

00:47:42.660 She said, did y'all want to come out here and tell people what she said?

00:47:45.160 Look at your skin.

00:47:46.000 Y'all are all getting sunburnt.

00:47:48.340 You're all burnt up. 0.98

00:47:49.540 Y'all all came – all you white people came down from Canada, and y'all didn't even bring 1.00

00:47:53.620 sunscreen. 0.82

00:47:55.000 They just – she said, look at your feet.

00:47:57.240 They're so hot.

00:47:58.580 They're so hot.

00:47:59.900 They're the sandals.

00:48:00.860 Yes, she said, they're hot.

00:48:02.020 She said, you're going to have sun poisoning.

00:48:04.960 You're going to get sun sick.

00:48:06.260 It was the video – I was like, are you serious?

00:48:09.280 And they just – oh, she's, like, shaming them. 0.99

00:48:10.840 She's like, you should have brought an umbrella. 1.00

00:48:12.980 Y'all should have brought umbrellas.

00:48:14.960 Y'all came out.

00:48:15.700 Y'all didn't even prepare.

00:48:16.680 Y'all are telling people how to –

00:48:17.820 Polophobes don't like parasols? 1.00

00:48:19.400 I was like, damn. 1.00

00:48:21.400 Damn. 1.00

00:48:21.980 It's funny, because this past weekend, I got into, like, some crazy, stupid Twitter beef 1.00

00:48:27.740 with this white girl that, like, just absolutely – she's, like, the misogynist pick-me to, 1.00

00:48:32.900 like, end all pick-me's.

00:48:33.780 She's, like, the final boss. 0.99

00:48:35.500 And her and I got into it, because she's a coward and tried to talk shit on me, thinking 1.00

00:48:40.160 I would never see it. 0.99

00:48:40.700 She wasn't going to say anything.

00:48:41.580 Yeah, so we were going back and forth, and, like, she just kept attacking my looks. 1.00

00:48:45.540 And I have a rule that I don't attack the looks of women the same way I attack men, 0.95

00:48:49.960 because I attack men's looks all the time. 0.99

00:48:51.040 I don't give a fuck. 0.99

00:48:52.060 But women, I don't do that. 1.00

00:48:53.420 So I was just, like – it's almost like I was, like, this is going to be way more interesting 1.00

00:48:57.340 if I just don't attack her looks, but I still drag the fucking lace off this bitch. 1.00

00:49:01.960 Yeah. 1.00

00:49:02.420 So I literally – she kept calling me fat and ugly and whatever.

00:49:05.920 And then I told her – I was, like, you know what's funny is a direct descendant of 1.00

00:49:10.700 cousin fucker bloodlines is never going to make me feel bad about my looks, bitch. 1.00

00:49:14.260 I can promise you that. 1.00

00:49:15.240 At all.

00:49:15.860 Yeah.

00:49:16.320 Your inbred ancestors?

00:49:17.600 Yeah, I'm not worried about that.

00:49:18.640 I'm not.

00:49:18.840 And it's, like, some of these people that will be – it's, like, giving.

00:49:23.680 It's, like, I don't want to come at your education either, because I also don't want to do that.

00:49:27.620 But it's, like, there's no brains, no nothing. 0.56

00:49:31.220 No nothing.

00:49:31.460 And it's, like, giving.

00:49:31.980 Then also it's, like, giving – you can't even have an intellectual – that's what I – 0.99

00:49:36.120 again, that's why I love gays and people who have nasty mouths and hang with gays. 1.00

00:49:40.100 If it's giving, then you are, like – it's giving. 1.00

00:49:42.880 I'm not going to sit here and go, you're fat or you're skinny or you're ugly. 0.99

00:49:46.620 It's giving – I can – I'm going to read you intelligently. 0.99

00:49:49.380 I'm going to say something that you're going to go back and you're going to have to read

00:49:51.840 this four times before you even understood that, like, you were taken apart.

00:49:55.880 Yeah.

00:49:56.500 I like a real layered approach.

00:49:58.600 Sometimes when I fuck people up, they're like, oh, you've missed this. 0.95

00:50:01.700 You missed that. 0.99

00:50:02.180 I say, see, you're thinking too high.

00:50:03.560 You're thinking too superficial.

00:50:05.200 You've got to dig deeper.

00:50:06.580 You really want to move in up here.

00:50:09.180 You've got to say something they're never expecting.

00:50:11.440 Come after their mom.

00:50:12.460 I'm just kidding.

00:50:12.780 I do jobs a lot.

00:50:17.720 Like, I'll tell people what they look like they do.

00:50:19.820 Yeah.

00:50:20.080 Oh, I like that one.

00:50:20.880 Yeah.

00:50:21.080 I told the guy, I was like, don't you have used Toyotas to sell? 1.00

00:50:23.700 Get the fuck off my page, bitch. 1.00

00:50:25.520 Trucker. 1.00

00:50:26.700 Trucker.

00:50:27.740 I told somebody he looks like he sells security systems.

00:50:30.620 Don't you have content to make in the back of their truck that you're driving across

00:50:32.740 the country, mama?

00:50:33.940 Exactly.

00:50:34.960 Don't you have a security system to sell door-to-door? 1.00

00:50:37.020 Fuck off my porch, bitch. 1.00

00:50:37.860 Well, now, wait a minute. 1.00

00:50:40.600 Anyone out there, I'm looking for a door-to-door security salesperson.

00:50:44.280 Yeah.

00:50:44.640 I'll send you one. 0.99

00:50:45.600 I fucked up a few this weekend. 0.98

00:50:47.280 Thank you. 0.98

00:50:47.520 Send one this way.

00:50:48.620 This one girl, the girl that kept trying to attack me, she kept leaning on this. 1.00

00:50:54.120 I was like, you're going to this well too many times, bitch. 1.00

00:50:56.260 But she kept calling me Fiona from Shrek over and over again. 0.98

00:51:00.320 And I said, comparing me to Fiona is crazy because, one, she also has a man, and we know where

00:51:05.060 you're at in that journey, which is single. 0.97

00:51:06.700 And then, two, she chose to be an ogre over a white woman. 1.00

00:51:11.160 Ooh, you got me, bitch. 1.00

00:51:12.580 My bad. 1.00

00:51:13.500 Ooh, you fucking got me. 1.00

00:51:15.820 Fucking bitch. 1.00

00:51:17.000 And also, she was a fucking queen. 1.00

00:51:18.900 So, bitch, she got a man, kids. 1.00

00:51:22.560 She owned her own home. 1.00

00:51:24.020 Her and her husband stood up against gentrification.

00:51:26.440 Hello. 1.00

00:51:27.540 And fucking doing shit. 1.00

00:51:30.560 Exactly. 1.00

00:51:31.400 What?

00:51:32.440 Fiona did so much.

00:51:33.860 What have you done for your community?

00:51:35.420 Exactly.

00:51:36.700 What have you done for the environment?

00:51:38.560 Exactly.

00:51:39.120 She literally, no shade.

00:51:40.420 She literally kept that bog together. 1.00

00:51:43.120 Do you know how many other creatures and shit that live in that environment, that if they 0.98

00:51:46.800 would have tore that down, would have been displaced? 0.99

00:51:48.880 Exactly.

00:51:49.820 Do you know the ecosystem would have collapsed?

00:51:51.240 The ecosystem would have collapsed.

00:51:52.600 Yeah, with all the species of that.

00:51:53.660 And you know when they moved them out, they were coming for the trees. 0.99

00:51:56.300 They was going to tear all types of shit up. 1.00

00:51:58.360 Put up a fucking high rise. 1.00

00:51:59.720 So, yeah, sorry, I'm a leader in my community. 1.00

00:52:03.160 Thank you.

00:52:03.180 I was like, oh, you got me.

00:52:04.200 You got me.

00:52:04.900 You got me.

00:52:05.400 Also, cute clothes.

00:52:07.520 Cute crown.

00:52:08.020 Also, rich parents.

00:52:10.160 Hello.

00:52:13.120 You know, rich parents.

00:52:14.360 It's not the read you think, girl.

00:52:15.960 Yeah.

00:52:16.400 Yeah.

00:52:16.640 You thought you tried to let me have it.

00:52:18.780 Yeah.

00:52:19.100 She told me, she's like, can you afford a personal trainer?

00:52:22.700 Like, it's just fat jokes.

00:52:23.720 And then I said, I actually have one built into my man.

00:52:26.180 Do you have one of those?

00:52:27.720 Because my man is a personal trainer.

00:52:29.480 Can you afford a personal trainer?

00:52:31.160 It's like giving.

00:52:33.400 Why afford?

00:52:35.320 It's just giving like.

00:52:36.600 Oh, because she might have money.

00:52:38.820 Well, she had pretended she didn't know who I was, but she didn't realize that, first

00:52:43.320 of all, I'm a Virgo. 1.00

00:52:44.240 And second of all, I'm a mean fucking bitch. 1.00

00:52:46.600 So I, she doesn't know that I remembered that she had reached out to fly me out. 0.99

00:52:51.820 Like, and I literally told her, I said, oh, you, I said, you're talking about me. 0.97

00:52:54.740 You don't know me, but you offered to fly me out like a fucking city girl. 1.00

00:52:57.400 I would have posted it. 1.00

00:52:58.460 I did.

00:52:59.160 Yes.

00:53:00.740 Oh, girl, I did.

00:53:01.840 That's a meme.

00:53:02.340 When me and Heidi do our podcast and she's like, she's like, oh, cause this boy, he was

00:53:05.620 like, this ex, he was so missing.

00:53:06.920 I'm like, say his name.

00:53:08.140 Say it.

00:53:09.760 Say his name.

00:53:10.700 Cause you know what?

00:53:11.520 I know for a fact he's watching.

00:53:13.140 You know what I'm giving this, giving that tease.

00:53:14.580 Like giving, I know for a fact you're watching what she's doing now, honey. 0.94

00:53:17.940 Exactly. 1.00

00:53:18.380 And so I posted that and I said, you can't, you literally can't afford me, bitch. 1.00

00:53:22.600 Like you want me to come on your fucking show. 1.00

00:53:24.160 And tell mom, can I afford a personal trainer? 1.00

00:53:25.540 Can you afford me?

00:53:27.340 Exactly.

00:53:27.840 Let's talk about that.

00:53:29.040 That's probably why she's mad. 0.91

00:53:30.440 Yeah. 1.00

00:53:30.860 She's mad at me because I didn't respond to her whack ass fucking offer. 1.00

00:53:34.400 She wanted to have me flewed out girl. 1.00

00:53:36.240 Flewed out.

00:53:36.860 Where'd she live? 0.99

00:53:38.020 I don't know where the fuck she lives, but she was trying to fly me to, she was, well, 0.99

00:53:41.360 her ancestors are from there. 0.99

00:53:42.400 Okay.

00:53:44.080 She was going to, she was trying to fly me out to Dubai, girl.

00:53:49.020 It's to Dubai.

00:53:50.260 Yeah.

00:53:50.700 Oh, gee.

00:53:51.240 Ooh.

00:53:51.980 Nice.

00:53:52.340 It's an international.

00:53:53.400 But this is the guy, I can't go to Dubai.

00:53:55.380 No?

00:53:55.960 Cause if I go to Dubai, I'm going to have to go in a closet.

00:53:57.960 Oh yeah.

00:53:58.820 Can't do it. 0.97

00:53:59.480 And I'm too gay. 0.88

00:54:00.380 Wait, I want to ask about your podcast before we get to the end.

00:54:02.740 So like how, how did you come about the podcast?

00:54:05.860 How has it been going?

00:54:06.920 What do you love about it?

00:54:07.780 Um, the podcast is fierce.

00:54:08.980 It's like me and Heidi, she's a girl that I didn't like on my season at first.

00:54:12.800 And I feel like she didn't like me.

00:54:14.860 Um, that's why I didn't like her.

00:54:16.640 Cause I thought she didn't like me and I was wrong.

00:54:18.180 An enemies to lovers trope.

00:54:18.900 Yeah.

00:54:19.320 And then like, and on the first episode I like gave her, they like rank the girls who you 0.98

00:54:22.800 thought.

00:54:23.380 And I kind of put her in the bottom.

00:54:25.240 But I didn't really, I don't know.

00:54:26.720 Whatever.

00:54:27.360 Yeah. 0.96

00:54:27.540 And so, but then we were doing the challenge and she was fucking hilarious. 1.00

00:54:30.020 I'm like, Oh, this girl is my kind of girl. 0.98

00:54:32.180 I kind of gagged a little bit.

00:54:33.160 And like, we like kind of bonded over the season.

00:54:35.620 We all, we both were in the bottom on the same episode.

00:54:38.060 She almost went home.

00:54:39.240 Well, I almost went home.

00:54:40.160 She did.

00:54:43.060 Bye sis.

00:54:43.940 And that's just what I'm sorry to say.

00:54:45.700 And then the gag was I won season 12 and then she won Miss Congeniality.

00:54:50.880 And like, we were like, yeah.

00:54:52.280 And so like, we were like super close and we would spend a lot of time together, like

00:54:56.100 working.

00:54:56.660 And then I would go to her house all the time and we'd like chill and be smoking and

00:55:00.240 like stuff.

00:55:01.280 She was like, we should do a podcast.

00:55:02.500 And I was like, that'd be cute.

00:55:04.520 I feel like maybe.

00:55:05.580 And then, so I like made a tweet, let's do a podcast and like Alaska and Willem were

00:55:10.340 like, we would love to have y'all do a podcast with us if y'all want to. 0.99

00:55:13.260 We were like, fuck. 0.99

00:55:14.160 Yeah, sure. 1.00

00:55:14.640 Yeah.

00:55:14.960 So we do the podcast.

00:55:16.520 We like talk to like all sorts of people, walks of life.

00:55:19.560 We have like drag Queens there. 1.00

00:55:20.860 We have like scientists come through.

00:55:22.620 We have like, um, we had somebody come about hair, a hairstylist. 0.86

00:55:26.160 We had a porn star.

00:55:27.780 We like all types of stuff. 0.97

00:55:28.940 We all type.

00:55:29.760 It's a good time.

00:55:30.940 I love that.

00:55:31.720 And I, I think what I love the most about, especially, uh, drag Queens like you who 1.00

00:55:36.680 are like, you're so bubbly and so fun.

00:55:39.220 And I feel like your talents expand far past drag too.

00:55:43.320 Like you could, you could do all kinds of things.

00:55:45.100 And I'm so glad you're doing a podcast.

00:55:46.980 Thank you.

00:55:47.500 And I'm so glad I'm doing this podcast.

00:55:49.440 Period.

00:55:49.620 And that's one of our favorite, one of our favorite things we say. 0.99

00:55:54.160 I'm like, girl, we, we're fucking sexy podcasters. 0.98

00:55:57.120 Love. 0.99

00:55:57.480 That's crazy.

00:55:59.120 And the gag, the craziest part is, is like, because me growing up a black feminine boy,

00:56:04.040 like I always hated my voice so bad.

00:56:07.840 And like for her too, she would feel like people judge you off the way you sound, the

00:56:11.240 way you talk, like who you are.

00:56:13.520 And I'm like, now people come to flock to hear my voice.

00:56:16.860 I'm like, so to all the people that go, you sound like a girl.

00:56:19.540 Oh, I'm going to sound like a girl that's getting paid, mama. 1.00

00:56:23.820 How about that?

00:56:25.780 And you're still listening, aren't you?

00:56:27.080 It is giving, but I hope your kids are doing well and tell your baby mom I say hi.

00:56:35.960 Tell her I say hi when you pick the kids up.

00:56:40.840 You don't even have rights to that.

00:56:43.660 I would love to know what's the, what's the, been the best part about like, now that you

00:56:48.460 have your so successful career and you got to do, we're here and you're doing the podcast

00:56:52.800 and like, what's been the best part about like getting to build a platform and like

00:56:57.280 be a drag star?

00:56:58.520 I really feel like the best part of like having a platform is like the people, to be honest.

00:57:03.500 And I'm like, it'd make me sound like a sappy.

00:57:05.100 I feel like, cause I'm a very emotional person, but I'm like, I feel like I'm an empath too

00:57:08.980 and I like to connect to people.

00:57:10.440 It's like, there's this video where I was shooting this thing in New York with this brand

00:57:15.940 and we were like at a park talking to people.

00:57:17.400 And so we took a little break and I was like sitting off to the side and this, um, I don't 0.99

00:57:22.020 even know how they identified, just this queen on the streets was like, no fucking way. 0.98

00:57:26.620 You're Jada Essence Hall. 0.96

00:57:27.440 And she was just like, so New York. 1.00

00:57:29.460 And she said, bitch, bitch, I love you. 1.00

00:57:32.800 What you do for people, the space you make for people is so beautiful. 1.00

00:57:37.680 And she's like talking to the brand was like, we, we felt like you were perfect for us.

00:57:40.920 We wanted to like, like I was talking about like being a queen and what that feels like.

00:57:43.940 And like, and like then have this moment in front of these people that hired me to like,

00:57:49.100 yes, you were right for this job.

00:57:51.220 And like seeing it in real, real time.

00:57:53.080 And then that's like crazy for work.

00:57:54.320 But then it's like for myself, I'm like, then that same day I'd like leave the work.

00:57:58.360 I'm like, oh, I'm so exhausted.

00:57:59.780 And then my friend, which was fierce because I have a friend, he works at the Four Seasons.

00:58:03.020 So he was giving me like a cute little like hookup for a massage, but I went to the wrong 0.98

00:58:05.760 fucking Four Seasons. 0.99

00:58:06.520 And I was over it. 0.99

00:58:08.740 And I looked at the time in the car.

00:58:09.880 I said, I'm not going to make it.

00:58:11.640 Forget it.

00:58:11.840 And so I'm like kind of frustrated, like, oh my God, walking down the street.

00:58:15.880 And then I went into another queen.

00:58:18.540 She was this woman, just woman, black woman, beautiful on the streets. 0.98

00:58:21.940 And was like, Jada.

00:58:24.020 And she's like, I don't even take no picture.

00:58:25.160 I don't want to do nothing.

00:58:25.640 I just want to tell you, thank you for what you do for us.

00:58:28.460 I'm like, girl, how like lucky am I that just by existing and being here and walking

00:58:38.180 and doing what I'm doing, I think we all should be able to do that.

00:58:40.880 But that people give me flowers or tell me they think I'm beautiful.

00:58:43.900 And I don't take that for granted because I know so many people in my life that are stunning,

00:58:48.480 beautiful, have so much personality.

00:58:49.920 And then sometimes I'm the only friend that they have that will tell them that.

00:58:53.140 And so I'm like, it's crazy that I get to live a life where people tell me how much

00:58:58.280 they appreciate me, validate me, make me, give space to me.

00:59:03.180 And that's not for everybody.

00:59:05.600 Everybody does not get that.

00:59:06.760 I will never take that for granted.

00:59:08.440 So I'm like, the biggest part of what I do is that I get to connect with people,

00:59:11.460 that I get to come onto a space like this, do a podcast, meet dope people.

00:59:17.300 Again, you even give me flowers and appreciate what I'm doing.

00:59:20.460 Absolutely.

00:59:21.960 That's it.

00:59:22.640 No lies.

00:59:23.600 And I feel like as long as I'm able to do my job,

00:59:26.500 and even if it's not doing drag, as long as I have the opportunity to be able to like

00:59:30.840 have this platform and connect with people and meet people and make space for them,

00:59:37.040 I'm going to keep doing that.

00:59:38.100 Absolutely.

00:59:38.580 And I'm going to keep doing it and doing it and doing it well.

00:59:40.280 Well, I do want to say too, period, that you are so important and so necessary.

00:59:46.780 And I feel like you have been around for a while, like in the drag world for a while,

00:59:51.000 but past that you've been able to transcend like outside of just the drag world.

00:59:56.060 Because it is, the drag world now is so mainstream, but it hasn't always been that way.

01:00:00.740 And so you've been able to transcend and basically build like a bridge for people who maybe

01:00:06.020 had never heard of it or maybe were never exposed to it, but now they've grown this love for it.

01:00:11.040 But past that, just how you present to the world and represent the many different marginalized groups

01:00:17.740 you sit within is so valid and so important.

01:00:20.080 But that's what I was literally saying for you, even this space and like the fact that

01:00:24.020 there's not a lot of straight people saying like I'm going to be making space for other queer people

01:00:29.580 and allowing them to tell their stories and make, that's also important.

01:00:32.520 And like when we did like press for We're Here and like we were talking about like what it means

01:00:38.860 to like really be a real ally. And like Latrice was like, you got to really pull up.

01:00:43.500 And I'm like, that's what you do. And that is as almost as important as being queer

01:00:48.620 and being myself. It's like for somebody to saying like, I'm a straight woman.

01:00:54.180 I'm also saying that this is okay. And I'm also letting y'all see where y'all might not see this

01:00:58.440 through any other way. I'm going to give you a lens to that.

01:01:01.940 So what you do is major important too. And thank you so much for like my, and I'm like, also my sisters

01:01:07.480 would not fuck with you if you were not that girl. So I'm like, it's giving. 0.99

01:01:12.680 It's giving.

01:01:13.540 That's giving.

01:01:14.120 You said I picked that meme with a giving tree.

01:01:18.220 It's giving.

01:01:20.220 I don't know. I've said my, the highest compliments for me are from any of my gay friends, my drag

01:01:24.940 friends or anyone in between anyone outside of a cis straight person. If they tell me that 0.81

01:01:29.520 I'm funny, that I'm beautiful, I'm like, period, period.

01:01:32.480 Because you are.

01:01:35.860 That's like the highest compliment to me. I'm like, no one can tell me shit. 0.99

01:01:38.800 No one can tell me shit. Oh, can't touch me. But I'm so grateful to have you on the 1.00

01:01:43.620 show. I'm grateful that you exist in the space. I'm grateful we exist at the same time.

01:01:47.360 Literally, we are existing in this space at the same time and off camera, I want your

01:01:51.320 number and we need to go out.

01:01:53.300 We have to. 0.99

01:01:53.920 We have to go kick it. 0.99

01:01:54.800 We have to kick it. And you said you smoke. I love smoking. 1.00

01:01:56.420 I definitely smoke.

01:01:57.240 Yeah.

01:01:57.560 Don't start. It's a bad habit.

01:02:00.960 Do as I say, not as I do.

01:02:02.240 And then also then you'll be leeching off my weed and that's going to be a problem.

01:02:08.160 Okay, just to wrap, what would you say is your best piece of advice for anyone in the

01:02:14.400 community that maybe not even necessarily wants to do drag, but even if they do, just

01:02:19.340 someone who maybe wants to be in entertainment, maybe feels a little afraid to be themselves.

01:02:24.860 Like you said, even some of the drag girls, when they're getting started, they're like, 1.00

01:02:28.740 I have to be perfect before I audition.

01:02:30.200 You're like, you just got to be yourself.

01:02:31.660 That's what shines brighter than anything.

01:02:33.520 That's the advice I would have.

01:02:34.740 I'm like, I think it's a very hard thing to do even for myself.

01:02:38.820 I feel like even probably for you, it's a constant battle where it's like I know the

01:02:44.260 things people say don't matter about you, but then you still might find yourself in

01:02:48.900 this headspace where you think about that.

01:02:50.200 You're human.

01:02:50.560 And you think about it, but it's like realistically, I'm like, if we all understand and know how

01:02:56.680 beautiful we are when we are our own selves, oh my God, that would be so fierce.

01:03:01.680 And I think that just, and the crazy thing is, is like you don't, some of us, we don't

01:03:07.460 even know who we are.

01:03:08.280 I feel like I kind of know who I am right now. 0.91

01:03:11.000 Even when I think about when I first started drag, my drag persona, young, ridiculous, 1.00

01:03:16.640 sometimes not really the most put together, but was confident enough to bring me to who

01:03:21.880 I am today, that person.

01:03:24.060 And I am not that person at all anymore, but we continually change and I think give ourselves

01:03:28.680 permission to be ourselves and change and do what we want.

01:03:32.420 If today you decide, you know, I want to like, even if you, even if you, you feel like you

01:03:36.680 might be queer or you, there's something that's like, go out on a limb and make space

01:03:43.080 for you to make space for you, you know, make space for you to be yourself, make space to

01:03:47.040 grow and evolve and learn who you are and discover yourself.

01:03:50.340 Totally.

01:03:50.880 And if you, and that's, if that's drag, if that's wanting to do a podcast, if that's

01:03:55.960 wanting to be a Brianna, whatever you do, you literally, you cannot do that without being

01:04:01.520 yourself.

01:04:01.760 And I'm like, even like with this, with this kind of career, I've like had the opportunity

01:04:05.220 to meet a lot of people that are famous.

01:04:07.640 And I'm like, all the ones that are all my favorite people that I have met that, that

01:04:11.580 I felt like they were my favorite people before I met them.

01:04:14.820 And when I meet them in person, you see the personality is so magical in the same and it's

01:04:18.840 because they are who they are.

01:04:21.120 Absolutely.

01:04:21.760 And that's how they find success.

01:04:23.060 Be who you are.

01:04:24.400 Yeah.

01:04:24.920 And you're going to find a lane.

01:04:26.060 You're, you're so right about that.

01:04:28.200 I've, I've told people that too.

01:04:29.420 I'm like, there's already like, everybody is so uniquely themselves and that's the

01:04:34.660 most, the most beautiful thing about you is, is who you are because that's unique.

01:04:38.560 There is no other you in the world.

01:04:40.220 Like I would, one person for an example for that, like, I'll say like Cardi B.

01:04:43.760 Yeah.

01:04:44.320 Girl, I loved her forever.

01:04:47.580 When I saw her on the show, I'm like, oh, she's hilarious.

01:04:49.260 Oh, I'm loving hip hop.

01:04:50.320 She's hilarious.

01:04:50.600 Yes.

01:04:51.120 And like, and, and fighty.

01:04:54.840 She was still the funniest on that show. 1.00

01:04:56.780 Still the funniest.

01:04:57.360 You know, and I'm like her personality, like, I'm kind of like glad that like my success

01:05:01.780 kind of almost like started happening like around when stuff started happening for her

01:05:05.900 too, because I saw her be herself.

01:05:08.660 I would watch her on the show and like, I'm from the hood too.

01:05:11.440 And the way I'm like, I was so insecure about the way I speak and the way I sound.

01:05:15.920 And then you think like, because where I'm from and the way I talk, I might not be able

01:05:19.820 to find success.

01:05:20.440 And then when you see her be herself and she's like just going places and people appreciating

01:05:24.700 her being real, I was like, oh my God, I can, I'm like, it was giving more like, let's

01:05:28.820 off the whiz, you know, when they start stripping out, I'm like, everybody wake up.

01:05:32.660 I'm like, you know, what?

01:05:33.800 I can, the girl, I'm like, be you, however you are.

01:05:37.160 And like, and if people like it, they do.

01:05:38.660 If some people ain't going to get it, that's not for them to get.

01:05:40.460 Yeah.

01:05:40.800 And you're so right.

01:05:41.760 She has never once changed.

01:05:43.680 Not once.

01:05:44.280 Her personality, like the way she talks, everything.

01:05:46.220 That's like everyone's favorite part about her.

01:05:47.740 I love her.

01:05:48.320 And she's just so authentically herself.

01:05:49.860 And look how it worked out.

01:05:51.380 So you're, that's tea.

01:05:52.260 That's the most sage wisdom from Jada.

01:05:54.880 So don't come after me.

01:05:55.780 I'm a Cardi fan.

01:05:57.240 I said it.

01:05:58.280 Period.

01:05:58.920 And thank you so much for coming on the show. 0.98

01:06:02.280 I fucking adore you. 0.87

01:06:03.540 You're amazing. 0.97

01:06:03.880 I love you.

01:06:04.440 I'm so glad that you got to come.

01:06:06.200 And where can everybody find you?

01:06:07.780 I'm sure everybody knows.

01:06:08.960 Well, you can find me across all social media platforms at Jada E. Hall.

01:06:12.740 So it's J-A-I-D-A-E-H-A-L-L. 1.00

01:06:16.220 You can watch me.

01:06:17.220 I still say go watch, if you didn't see me on Drag Race already, go watch the episodes.

01:06:21.800 Watch both of my episodes on All-Star 7, season 12.

01:06:24.280 But that's old news.

01:06:25.440 You can catch me and Heidi Hall in Closet, too.

01:06:27.560 And you can watch We're Here.

01:06:28.540 Make sure you watch We're Here.

01:06:29.380 I feel like that's one of the most important TV shows on television right now.

01:06:33.020 Especially with the way the world is moving.

01:06:34.660 So watch it.

01:06:36.540 And also, be a better ally. 1.00

01:06:38.900 Tea, bitch. 1.00

01:06:40.100 Tea, what the fuck? 1.00

01:06:40.220 We can always be a better ally. 1.00

01:06:41.680 Absolutely.

01:06:42.320 We always can.

01:06:43.040 Thank you so much for coming on the show.

01:06:44.600 Thank you, Drew.

01:06:45.060 Thank you.

01:06:45.440 We're making each other blush.

01:06:50.580 Yes.

01:06:51.280 And I want to steal this mug.

01:06:52.720 Oh, yeah, please.

01:06:53.660 Thank you so much for watching this episode of the comment section show.

01:06:56.880 Make sure y'all go follow Jada on everything.

01:06:58.660 If you don't already, I'm sure you do.

01:07:00.420 But also, make sure you stream We're Here.

01:07:01.840 Make sure you listen to Jada's podcast.

01:07:03.860 And don't forget, new episodes of the comment section drop every Wednesday.

01:07:07.640 You can stream the audio on all streaming platforms.

01:07:09.460 Or you can watch the video exclusively and for free on our favorite platform, Spotify.

01:07:13.380 Thank you so much to my amazing guest, Jada Essence Hall.

01:07:16.820 And thank you so much for watching us.

01:07:18.220 And I'll see you next week.

01:07:19.200 Bye.

01:07:35.360 Bye.

01:07:35.540 Bye.

01:07:35.620 Bye.

01:07:35.640 Bye.

01:07:37.780 Bye.

01:07:38.240 Bye.

01:07:39.700 Bye.

01:07:39.940 Bye.

01:07:42.260 Bye.

01:07:42.800 Bye.

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