The Comment Section with Drew Afualo

00:00:00.000 i am gonna invite you and you cannot rescind it because it's on camera

00:00:03.400 so i'll i'll sing the middle at the reception what do you want

00:00:08.180 the way i got chills on my spine the way i got butterflies

00:00:13.220 maryn okay all right

00:00:17.740 hey everyone and welcome back to another episode of the comment section show starring me your fave

00:00:28.040 everybody knows me who cares about me on to the guests before we get there though sorry spooky

00:00:33.060 season's over but it's all right we're back to satan's school for girls yeah go ahead and clip

00:00:38.100 that all the men who fucking hate me anyways on to the guests today we have the iconic the

00:00:42.660 legendary the ridiculously talented maryn morris welcome to the show thanks to all the men that

00:00:49.980 hate me amen amen sister amen we're in a safe place yes you're in good company with me here love i'm

00:00:57.060 so happy to have you honored to have you on the show i feel it's surreal seeing you in person

00:01:02.880 the the like hours i've spent watching uh you on tech talk so i was gonna say me and maryn we've

00:01:11.100 been mutuals for a while yeah for a minute so i know that you think i'm funny yeah which i do brag

00:01:16.620 about and has been on my resume funny hope that's cool with you i'm on there okay cool i'm just funny

00:01:21.980 and like philosophical and like even in my like worst like hours of like the last year i was like

00:01:28.180 i just like dive into your rants and they're just yeah i'm just like fuck yes someone said it and

00:01:35.000 it's always you thank you i appreciate that maryn and i uh am a huge fan of you i think you're

00:01:40.980 so unbelievably talented and past your talent i really admire you for how convicted you are in

00:01:47.400 your beliefs uh obviously because the specific niche of music that you make can be quite

00:01:53.240 exclusionary sometimes but you've always been very upfront about being inclusive as a artist which i

00:01:59.560 love and admire about you and i want to tell you before i forget thank you because i make so many

00:02:03.720 wiener jokes that the serious shit just flies right out of my brain i forget i get it so i have to tell

00:02:09.060 you early we can we can do both we can do both but that means a lot um i think it's just it's

00:02:15.800 becoming a little bit more uh it's not as niche to like have those opinions and yeah we can talk to

00:02:22.120 each other on a more open connected level now so thankfully i feel like that ages me a bit because

00:02:27.860 like my first record was literally only in 2016 but there was no tiktok there wasn't even like apple

00:02:33.940 music yet it was just spotify and itunes and then you could like go buy the cd at target or walmart but

00:02:40.100 now it's like everything is so different and yeah it's just there's more channels of being able to

00:02:46.100 like tell someone the full context of who you are totally not just through the channels of like the

00:02:51.340 song or yeah like a polished interview now it's just way more about authenticity and totally not

00:02:58.680 overthinking everything absolutely and i do want to talk to you about that because i well first let's

00:03:02.860 get into your lore because it's extensive but i do i'm familiar with it but for those that are living

00:03:08.320 under a rock and maybe haven't heard of you before or know or familiar with your journey

00:03:11.960 um can you talk about how you got into music like when it really like kind of took off for you

00:03:16.120 kind of yeah of course yeah i'm from texas originally and outside of dallas and arlington texas i've been

00:03:24.260 performing and playing in bars and honky tonks and kind of like cutting my teeth live music wise that

00:03:30.660 way for you know since i was 11 12 years old which shocks a lot of people yeah that i was playing in

00:03:36.720 bars at that age but um i learned how to sign a bar tab um how to play for three hours for drunk

00:03:43.280 people um yeah audience i mean there's a part of me that like would never do it again but then also

00:03:50.620 it pisses me off that like these tiktok artists that are like 17 will never have to go through that

00:03:57.200 because i was like that really built some like hair skin and gumption and like you just are gonna

00:04:03.020 fucking get through it and yeah and learning to just be background noise because you're not the

00:04:08.420 center of attention yeah it's you're usually doing covers like it's you're not the star yeah but um

00:04:13.800 you're also like as a songwriter witnessing a lot of mania um sexual detention uh affairs

00:04:23.620 drunk people in bathrooms like at a young age so as a you know i can only imagine as a songwriter

00:04:29.880 that started in country music that that was perfect uh fodder for that but yeah i've lived

00:04:36.340 in nashville though for almost 12 years okay moved there when i was 22 to like just write for other

00:04:43.120 people yeah and uh i didn't really want a record deal or to be an artist anymore i was like i had

00:04:48.920 grown up doing that and so after that experience you were kind of like yeah i was just burned out

00:04:54.040 like i had burnout at like a very young age and then uh nashville kind of like put the gas in my

00:04:59.600 tank again to like be creative and that's good and like collaborate because i think i was so like

00:05:05.040 texas is so big that the music scenes there are like dallas is so far away from houston which is so far

00:05:11.220 away from austin and san antonio and they all have their own niche music scenes so nashville is like

00:05:17.720 the melting pot of yeah everyone there is a transplant kind of like la where it's just everyone's from

00:05:23.280 somewhere else you're all there for a reason yeah and mostly creative music reasons and not

00:05:29.080 everyone's there for like country music like you know there's all types of genres going on there but

00:05:34.600 uh i would say the main you know export is like the mainstream country music world but i had like

00:05:40.560 some mild success as a songwriter there like my first song that was recorded by another artist was

00:05:46.220 tim mcgraw and like you know og like that was a massive um kick in the door for me just

00:05:52.820 credibility wise on music rel which is where all the like uh publishing houses are yeah and then

00:05:58.800 like kelly clarkson recorded a song of mine and that kind of opens up the like pop world for me

00:06:04.040 so yeah and then i wrote this song out here actually in la um i was going through a breakup and i wrote

00:06:10.780 this song called my church and i just like had this kind of nausea of like i will be sick if someone

00:06:17.820 records this that isn't me love and i don't know i just marked my territory on it and i found my

00:06:25.800 manager janet and we put this out on spotify with no label just did it ourselves and within like

00:06:31.620 two or three days it had like a million streams which was unheard of at the time and like all the

00:06:37.620 labels in nashville are now like who the hell is this chick like and um kind of like two labels

00:06:44.160 ended up getting into like a bidding war over me and i was able to like leverage that into like a

00:06:48.600 pretty great recording deal and then i don't know like that was the first song i ever put out and so

00:06:53.680 the rest was history as they say yeah that's what uh that's kind of what megan trainer said too like

00:06:59.180 she was like i was writing for other people for a long time and then i wrote one that i was like i

00:07:03.300 need to do this one like this one's for me yeah i think actually she and i were at the same

00:07:07.220 publishing house um it was like a sort of smaller one uh called big big yellow dog and she i guess

00:07:14.280 wrote all about that base yeah and then was like i am the only one that can record this yeah so yeah

00:07:20.240 love her yeah and you have a very similar story i love that so after the initial like launch like

00:07:26.220 how was it like going kind of from being behind the scenes to now being completely front-facing and

00:07:31.280 like the future of country music like at the time at the time yeah i i mean it was daunting i think

00:07:36.540 i had been well prepared for it though just having had that background of performance well that's

00:07:40.880 good and i was also 26 when my record came out so i was already like established in the way of like

00:07:47.940 my frontal lobe was developed that's t i say that all the time every time i talk about it i'm like

00:07:53.040 because i just turned 29 not too long ago and i every time i say that people are like damn because

00:07:58.440 everyone on tiktok is 11 so every time people who are my peers and make the same amount of money

00:08:03.020 they're like 17 and so yeah whenever i talk about it i'm like i was a an adult when i got this i was

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00:08:40.640 sometimes when people are like how do you think so confidently about that well first of all i'm not

00:08:44.180 a child age i think sometimes they just think i'm like 22 which yeah i don't ever want to go back

00:08:49.960 to that age no it was a nightmare i'm cool with getting older yeah i like i mean obviously there

00:08:54.140 are people that can are well equipped to handle it young like i mean not very many of them though

00:08:59.680 i was gonna say taylor swift maybe yeah it's the only one that's like started at 14 15 became

00:09:06.180 massively famous and never stopped being that big yeah just got bigger yeah and didn't like lose their

00:09:11.740 mind or at least not in a way that we've seen yeah yeah truly so and it's hard not to you've done it

00:09:17.020 long enough now i've barely been doing it for however long and i i'm not even kidding like two years

00:09:21.780 into doing this i was like i get why people go insane yeah i get it i have women especially like

00:09:26.840 i totally get it yeah there's like an annual um and i i prepare for it now it's just annual like

00:09:32.760 mini breakdown oh my god me just allow yourself the space to have one one huge one clear out the

00:09:38.020 cobwebs yep yep yep yep and then you're okay yeah i talk about it like expelling my venom like a snake

00:09:43.360 like i'll die if i don't do it no you gotta get it out someone's gotta really squeeze my goiter and

00:09:47.840 spit it out otherwise i'm gonna burn a city down you know what i'm saying i'm like i'll literally

00:09:52.560 burn down a hospital it's in everyone's best interest i do it yeah sorry or i'll like burn

00:09:57.160 myself down yeah and then like yeah no like no one can get anything from me so yeah i was like this

00:10:03.620 is i'm useless in that sense yeah it can't work yeah yeah so as long as you make space for like

00:10:08.560 the annual breakdown i think it's okay um and we should talk about it my son's aries okay i love that

00:10:14.640 i'm a leo rising which totally makes sense yeah uh libra moon um so i never really identified with

00:10:22.360 like aries until my 20s where i was like oh shit i actually am extremely opinionated and stubborn

00:10:30.000 and um like short fused i love aries people what are you i'm a virgo okay so i'm like i'm i'm real

00:10:37.700 opposite in a lot of ways aries people i always kind of summarize them as like if you're you know when

00:10:43.360 you're driving a car and you're kind of like what if i just like off the road killed everyone or

00:10:49.180 whatever happens happens aries people are that thought but if they did it i hate that you're

00:10:55.120 saying this they're like i'm sure it'll be fine and most times it works out and it's fine but that

00:11:00.420 kind of uncertainty stresses me out as a virgo like i need plans and a structure and yeah i told my

00:11:06.500 therapist that once where i was like i used to fantasize like in my teen years just about driving

00:11:11.180 off the highway and she's like um okay we need to get into this then see me being a virgo i'm always

00:11:17.320 right yeah you you just clocked me i feel like you clocked my soul slid out of my ass that's why i

00:11:23.780 say aries people give into that feeling and i think that's why i get along with aries really well because

00:11:28.600 i could never in a million years but like i like one of my best friends in college was in aries and so

00:11:34.080 i always describe her as like i never would have had fun or done like any of the cool shit i did

00:11:39.620 and if she wasn't in my life yeah and she would have died if i wasn't in hers so it works right

00:11:44.220 respect the toxic yeah we get we get a good like balance of fun and staying alive yeah i love that

00:11:50.820 yeah yeah we need that really well with them we need those people but okay so well going back to

00:11:56.740 your illustrious career yeah um once you really start like establishing yourself as an artist and like

00:12:02.040 like a musician um when do you start noticing where you you want to be more vocal about your beliefs

00:12:08.440 and how you feel like as far as ideologies go especially considering you started in country

00:12:12.440 like how did you feel about that kind of um it happened pretty quick just because um at least

00:12:20.140 in country music i don't know if they still do it this way but you know before streaming was sort of

00:12:25.620 the main way we would consumed music radio is still like extremely powerful yeah yeah particularly in

00:12:31.560 country so we would do these things called radio tours where the label would send an artist out for

00:12:37.880 six weeks to six months and just go to like 150 stations around the country like you know we're

00:12:46.020 flying frontier we're flying southwest at like 5 a.m we're staying in like you know comfort ends or

00:12:53.800 worse um red roof ends yeah red roof plenty of those um i do like a hampton end okay i love a hampton

00:13:00.460 yeah those beds are comfortable but you just go and plan these conference rooms for program directors or

00:13:06.560 like their staff and you buy them lunch and um it's very bizarre and very old school and then you'll do

00:13:13.960 like maybe two or three stations in a day and then you'll go out for dinner with them and it's always

00:13:20.020 a steakhouse don't know why they always request a steakhouse and you're paying for it like it's going

00:13:25.680 back on your deal is that just to get them to like play the song on the radio is it like trying to

00:13:30.620 wine and dine them both i mean yeah it's both it's it's very transactional yeah i will say like the

00:13:36.900 the nice people i met in radio particularly always women and um you know had their own axe to grind

00:13:45.260 within that world because it is you know again very male dominated and so for me that was always like a

00:13:51.880 weird part of the job but it was also like i got to pay my dues i don't want to complain this is what

00:13:56.700 everyone else has to do including the men artists like so you know just like get get through it and

00:14:04.120 i remember like i was dealing with massive strep throat throughout that entire year i ended up

00:14:09.040 having to get like a tonsillectomy because i was sick all the time from the travel yeah yeah i bet and

00:14:14.660 um so it was gnarly but like obviously i ended up getting radio play and obviously i do think like

00:14:21.320 my songs had something to do with it too like duh but also there's just a lot of ring kissing and

00:14:27.500 but i think i noticed really quickly that i needed to be more vocal and like state my boundaries beyond

00:14:33.980 private and do it publicly was i was at like a post-show meet and greet um i was opening for

00:14:42.120 keith urban and it was like the best tour like he's so lovely the catering was fucking bomb like i

00:14:48.980 we talk about this catering like eight years later i'm still thinking that's how good it was um well

00:14:54.080 because not every tour has it oh i bet yeah i know but it was like such a cool learning experience he's

00:14:59.860 like so great with everyone he works with but there was like a radio guy from the local station that came

00:15:05.040 to my meet and greet after my set and was just super drunk probably on my labels dime or mine actually

00:15:12.720 because it will go back to my account that i have to recoup but just got drunk before the show

00:15:18.380 probably missed my entire set and then like wants to get photos after and he was just like really

00:15:23.460 handsy with me and this is one of luckily not that many times it happened to me i know plenty of friends

00:15:30.880 of mine it's happened to way worse so mine was like i guess one of the lucky ones but he was just

00:15:37.320 super drunk and gross and like hanging all over me and giving a lot of like spouty opinions about what

00:15:42.560 my next like single should be and how don't pick a ballad because people don't want to hear like

00:15:46.940 sad women on the radio and i was like have you heard country music bitch like the whole thing

00:15:52.500 is well we all know keith urban's all sunflowers and rainbows and nothing sad but like the best

00:15:59.140 country songs to me are like the hard-hitting like real life isn't that the whole point of country

00:16:03.620 yeah it really hits you in the feels i know right i mean loretta lynn literally has a song called the

00:16:08.480 pill right it's hello that's real life shit and so whatever his skew of what i should be doing or

00:16:15.540 what women should be like looking or sounding like within the confines of the radio of country

00:16:20.280 it was just and also just yeah him being really inappropriate i was like this is i got out safe

00:16:26.900 on this one yeah but like i know plenty of women friends of mine that haven't and male friends too

00:16:32.020 male artist friends that have dealt with that shit so um yeah that's kind of when my light bulb turned on

00:16:38.700 of like we've got to stop like normalizing this behavior and um there has to be a way to be able

00:16:45.800 to be successful in this without having to deal with that yeah like stomach it yeah so in order to

00:16:52.060 avoid being blackballed yeah which now i mean obviously like felt a little naive to even have

00:16:57.860 that optimism at the time but right yeah i mean there's a lot of like boundaries um inconveniently

00:17:04.800 that i've set up you know in the last decade yeah i'm glad i'm glad you have especially i feel like

00:17:10.640 too that's another testament to women being so violently aware of bullshit like that so much

00:17:17.020 a lot of times earlier than men do when they go through the same like uh journey or career path

00:17:22.880 it's kind of like the harvey weinstein shit like a lot of people knew already but women told each other

00:17:28.800 yeah they said hey don't ever be alone with him don't ever if he ever invites you the way that women

00:17:33.180 have to guard rail each other because men are doing fucking shit to protect us so we're like okay

00:17:37.800 then we'll have to protect each other i can't talk about him publicly because i'll never work again so

00:17:42.140 i'm just gonna warn people behind closed doors that shit's nuts i know and it's prevalent in every

00:17:46.720 part of entertainment yeah i'm not surprised at all that it exists in music oh my god the diddy stuff

00:17:52.340 like i know shit i mean we don't even know like the tip of even the tip of the iceberg of that yeah

00:17:57.680 like the the way that it spreads like a fucking poison is insane yeah but that's why i'm glad

00:18:02.980 that's why i admire you so much because i feel like you have been very vocal about many things

00:18:08.020 and it is brave to do that is it's very scary trust me i fucking know right to be like especially

00:18:13.960 when when you say one thing you become like almost like the spokesperson for that entire genre

00:18:19.140 right so they're now you're speaking for all of them but you're like i'm only speaking for me i can't

00:18:23.740 speak for anybody else yeah that's why i admire you so much for being so upfront about what you

00:18:27.560 believe in what you think is right it's hard for people to just especially women thanks you know

00:18:31.840 what i mean like and you're still here yeah i'm still doing fantastic yeah i mean it's it's thank

00:18:37.700 you i mean i i think what you were saying about you can't be because i did feel like i've even said

00:18:43.680 this in an interview before i was just like i can't be the fucking like hall monitor yeah all the

00:18:49.320 time yeah for like people's bad behavior truly and like i you know i got off twitter um after a few

00:18:55.980 too many like clapbacks um and it's like i never regret what i say but it's also like i have to take

00:19:03.680 care of myself it's exhausting yeah and like just those fears of you know i have a four-year-old little

00:19:08.840 boy and being doxxed or like just anyone ever being like dangerous like it's happened uh just feeling

00:19:15.960 unsafe like yeah i mean i bring him on the road with me and i don't show him or his face on social

00:19:20.660 media um but like yeah just those things that i can do to protect him but at the same time like

00:19:25.840 if anything that i ever say comes back or like riots up these crazies yeah yeah because there are some

00:19:32.720 yeah um and i've gotten into tiffs with like very public people um uh yeah telling me yeah you and me

00:19:40.780 both yeah yeah it's like you're sending up almost like the bat signal on yourself to be you know

00:19:46.040 abused and so death threats like this and that like that stuff is very real like everything seems like

00:19:53.040 it's only existing within the confines of uh a wi-fi connection but like it's you know when it gets real

00:20:00.440 and things are being sent to your house and shit like that it's like yeah you do have to kind of

00:20:05.740 figure out ways to maintain your morality and like do that publicly and keep that bravery but also

00:20:12.340 yeah there are certain things where it's like i don't need to shoot this off on twitter i girl i've

00:20:17.200 only learned the hard way telling me me too same honestly that's why i relate so heavily to what

00:20:21.820 you're talking about especially with yeah but like you only you do it like truly when someone's being

00:20:26.300 like crazy out of pocket like i i downloaded twitter back to watch the pearl stuff unfold with you

00:20:33.980 yeah because i was like you're just so well you're well spoken and you also have like an acid tongue

00:20:40.620 and like it's just so and you do it within the like however many characters they allow now period

00:20:45.820 yeah i know they they really they really fucked up giving me more than 140 on twitter yeah i deleted my

00:20:50.640 twitter too though transparently um just because like you said there has to be a balance at some point

00:20:56.060 like obviously for me like this this greatness was thrust upon me in the sense of like the mantle they gave

00:21:01.920 me was i did not ask for that nor did i think that was going to be the case i'm happy to do it even

00:21:07.660 sometimes like when i get i get criticism all the time but especially from people that are like well

00:21:12.320 i just think there's better ways to do it and sometimes i tell i tell them i'm like then fucking

00:21:17.720 do it right tag in bitch i'm lonely out here what the fuck i am fighting by myself i am doddling an army

00:21:23.520 alone i'm john snow where are the allies i know i'm the bastards i'm like where are the knights of the veil

00:21:29.420 yeah exactly i'm just alone i'm i'm being suffocated under hundreds of bodies like and

00:21:34.560 that's uh it is a mantle you carry like i totally get what you're saying as far as like you become

00:21:40.320 a patrol and then it's like that's all i ever do and then on top of that that's all i'm ever consuming

00:21:45.700 like i had to i had to kind of like start discerning what i did and didn't want to talk about because

00:21:51.880 there are certain things that are just too horrible to platform and i refuse to yeah and there are men that

00:21:57.020 i've fucked up before in a silly way and then i found out they like genuinely are evil to their

00:22:01.180 core and i refuse to talk about them anymore because i'm not giving i'm not breathing life

00:22:05.700 into that name on my platform anymore for sure people like if you really want people to disappear

00:22:10.140 you have to de-platform them you have to ignore them like and pretend they're dead so that's what i do

00:22:14.640 i've done that well with a woman but um yeah oh me too i did that with that woman that you just

00:22:19.380 yeah i did that with her too when i got engaged they were like i wonder what pearl thinks i don't give a

00:22:24.920 fuck what she thinks yeah i don't care what she thinks about literally anything at all ever but

00:22:28.780 especially me i don't care no and they're just like begging for the like engagement and it's you

00:22:34.440 kind of realize how powerful you are though because you're like when i stop engaging even if it's not

00:22:39.800 with a specific person but even a platform yeah it like it kicks up and you realize you like trade

00:22:45.060 it up too because it's like okay you traded the like stress of twitter or x for like a new york

00:22:51.180 time's best-selling book amen that's your channel now like do that i know that that twitter calls

00:22:56.420 to me like the green goblin mask you know what i'm saying like whispers and i'm like i know i know

00:23:01.700 but mostly honestly the only reason i felt like that about twitter was because on twitter i really

00:23:07.760 could be mean there yeah see like when i'm fighting on tiktok that's me fighting with two

00:23:11.360 hands behind my back if if they really let me these people would never show their face in public ever

00:23:15.780 again yeah we're going into the gutter right yeah but twitter is such a hellscape that i can say

00:23:20.940 whatever i want on there and that's not a good thing yeah yeah so that's actually really bad we

00:23:24.880 need to be regulated a little bit just a tiny bit i need a little bit of a leash i'll admit it

00:23:29.400 sure of course i do it's so true like i when i redownloaded it um for your discourse to watch my

00:23:37.320 fight i hadn't been on in like three years and so after elon took over it i was like this is

00:23:42.700 insanity on here it's nasty and it's gross and i had like a burner account and i was like i can't be on

00:23:48.800 here like what the hell am i watching it's just like porn clips and like ai crazy like i know it's

00:23:56.200 just insane it's gross over there i know really it's going down and it's going down fast i'm glad

00:24:00.260 you i'm glad you deleted yeah i got out while the building was burning you know yeah you know i went

00:24:04.820 out on top i'd say i that's when you have to know when to fold them yeah just yeah get out totally

00:24:10.400 right after you bested a bitch well that's why i think you're you're fantastic in that sense too

00:24:14.600 because it's one of those i feel like and i'm sure you agree with the sentiment too where there's

00:24:19.020 are certain there's certain levels where i'm like yeah debating with you is not going to give me

00:24:22.920 anything because you want to go viral and you can't do it without me and then on top of that like

00:24:28.500 you just are committed to misunderstanding me because every time i like the the three times a

00:24:34.080 year i'm like trying to be serious in the shit i'm saying like i'm not i'm not telling them mean

00:24:38.860 jokes about what they look like uh the three times i do it they're always like well then you should

00:24:43.300 invite me on your show and debate me why the fuck would i do that yeah who's that benefiting

00:24:48.080 yeah girl what do i get out of that other than psoriasis like my scalp itches yeah near me i don't

00:24:53.160 want you near me i know i'm gonna catch something yeah i think you i think you being like yeah i don't

00:24:58.260 need to engage with this anymore just there's power in that there's autonomy in that which i love

00:25:02.880 there is and i think like they only kind of gain notoriety notoriety sounded so southern just now

00:25:09.840 notoriety um they only gain that through yeah exactly like you said your engagement and you

00:25:16.140 just realize like how powerful your pen is or your your statements are and that like is scary as hell

00:25:23.520 because it's like i didn't realize what i was saying meant this much but i guess it does and it like

00:25:29.560 really starts to pick up traction with like tabloids or like just stupid press outlets and you're like oh my

00:25:35.540 god like that was just it was literally a tweet and it was a passing moment but now it's like i still

00:25:41.960 look back at everything and i'm like i stand by everything i said me but it's so me yeah i there's

00:25:47.760 no regret like the intention was absolutely correct yeah no i meant what i said i just like i don't need

00:25:53.160 to say it anymore or ever like speak to you again yeah so yeah just enjoy that life but um no it's

00:26:00.300 it it does get exhausting but there's such a like liberation from it too because it's like

00:26:04.700 i've had to walk away from a lot of toxic things in my life like even recently it's just um bubbling

00:26:11.740 up into um a lot of like identity things too with my like genre of music and like the things i love

00:26:19.460 about country music like the the lyrical realness the songwriting integrity my community in nashville too

00:26:26.940 which is still very much there like i write a lot out here in la but my my close friends the people

00:26:33.240 that i built something in a sound with are nashville based so and it's very like this is the thing too

00:26:39.460 not that i want any more people like coming to nashville because it's like getting so crazy but

00:26:44.360 it's such a melting pot that like everyone's just it is progressive and yeah i feel like it's it gets

00:26:52.660 this bad rap because it's kind of steeped in a lot of these conservative ideals and like

00:26:57.960 misogyny racism like that's all obviously very much still there and not just nashville like you

00:27:05.120 know everywhere but i i think uh there's still something about that place that like i have not

00:27:10.580 pulled the plug on and it like keeps me there because it's like i was talking to um it was like

00:27:17.700 at the glad awards last summer um i was getting an award and so was jonathan van ness and love jvm i

00:27:24.740 know they've been on the show too we love them i know they live in austin texas now and i was like

00:27:29.880 why like i love austin yeah i i mean i think that too when i see their posts i know and i'm i'm from

00:27:36.960 texas austin's like one of my favorite cities in the world but just knowing jonathan's lived in like

00:27:42.960 la new york i was like you chose to live in austin why and they were like well we we shot a season of

00:27:48.480 queer eye there i fell in love with the the city and they were like i just feel like i i i can affect

00:27:55.680 more change living in the state where these laws and are actively abusive than living in a a city where

00:28:05.600 it's extremely progressive everyone kind of like votes and thinks the same as you for the most part

00:28:10.540 which is like i totally get that too it's like you want to flock to a city of where you feel safety

00:28:15.940 yeah that's absolutely fair but i think that kind of what jvn said about that i was like i think that's

00:28:23.460 what keeps me in nashville too yeah totally is like i feel like there's a there's a community there that's

00:28:29.480 like building and building yeah and we need to have like allies there to keep it building absolutely if

00:28:35.980 we all like become expats and live in new york and london or la yeah you lose you lose really

00:28:43.340 beautiful places that were meant for something more than that yeah they've over time evolved into

00:28:48.580 something that feels very exclusionary and very bigoted yeah um which is not anyone's not our fault

00:28:54.960 who are existing currently right now right who actively want to change that don't want that to be

00:28:58.700 the case yeah but i think that's a powerful thing too like um wanting to wanting to show people

00:29:03.600 all the wonderful beautiful parts of nashville as opposed to what it's become known for sure which

00:29:09.120 is again i think that's a powerful thing too i think it's important like and i and i've talked

00:29:13.080 about that before when people ask me like oh like do you think there's any hope for change like do you

00:29:18.260 think that like men are gonna change and blah blah blah i'm like well none of the men i stitch are

00:29:22.160 gonna fucking change i can promise you that they're gonna die that way but that's besides the point

00:29:25.320 um i was like i don't think change will come from people who inherently hate minorities or

00:29:30.700 marginalized people just all of a sudden turning on a light i think what's gonna change is is we

00:29:35.980 build something new that's what changes and we leave them to die out like their bloodlines should

00:29:41.120 stop and we should leave them to die yeah and then we should focus on each other and we should focus on

00:29:46.260 building community within each other and we should grab all the people on the fringe people who are

00:29:49.960 at risk of tipping to that side those are people you can get you can't get people who've made up their

00:29:55.000 mind like i know so i feel like that's how you feel about nashville it's like well i'm gonna let

00:29:59.200 those people die out but i'm gonna carve out something new yeah that will focus on what i

00:30:04.160 what i love about nashville and what you love about country music because country music is beautiful

00:30:08.320 i don't know a lot about it but it is beautiful well it's it is and like there's so there's such

00:30:13.500 a huge like fan base that's younger now for it which like it's really happened in the last couple

00:30:17.780 of years but living in nashville i think like um like gen z gen alpha like you know i have a four-year-old

00:30:24.800 so it's like i think also the other thing about community is like the kids that are being raised

00:30:30.000 in that that bubble which is in the south or whatever like it's like people are getting i think

00:30:36.400 smarter and more um aware aware and like kinder yeah yes we have to like keep a grip on you know

00:30:45.420 just everything being social media based and like everything being instantaneous but i do think

00:30:50.200 uh what like the the good parts of that have been that we can talk to each other we can see someone's

00:30:56.420 point of view that lives you know thousands of miles away totally there's there's like a gift in that

00:31:01.600 there's obviously downsides too but i think that's it's made uh i mean my son's not on any sort of

00:31:08.360 platform but like he's he's so kind and empathetic and like that obviously comes from like my my ex and

00:31:14.640 myself but in like his community but that gives me hope because it's like totally okay absolutely

00:31:20.040 you're a little kid you know you're privileged like yeah like because of me yeah and like uh but

00:31:25.940 you are growing up in this this town person yeah and it just he's traveling a lot he tours with me and

00:31:32.240 there's just something about that that makes me feel like okay maybe it's gonna be okay let's talk

00:31:36.800 about hate you get a lot of hate i have i know you did when you were leading crusades i'm a fan i

00:31:43.600 remember yeah um a lot as far as an artist a lot of hate yeah i'm sure because it's like

00:31:49.340 the squeaky wheel yeah you know but i think also it it brought a lot of love in too because it's

00:31:56.380 just people that had no idea that maybe you would never listen to country music were like

00:32:00.140 wait a second i'm not even kidding i do remember when you were getting in public beefs on twitter

00:32:04.880 and shit like standing up for people i remember people saying like which i thought was funny and

00:32:10.040 which is what made me like you which was they would say i did not know that she was with the

00:32:14.640 shits like that i did not know that they were doing it like that over there in country music

00:32:18.520 yeah which i think is hilarious i think that's so wonderful thanks you're like opening people's

00:32:22.680 perspectives yeah there's a good good few of us doing that in nashville but like yeah it certainly

00:32:28.500 it definitely opened up a lot of channels of like crazies and you know the tucker carlson

00:32:34.560 thing yeah and like some other bitches i won't name but i yeah i was just like that's interesting

00:32:41.300 but also it's just it kind of levels out the playing field and you're like okay i've never

00:32:47.960 been called this and now i have and i survived i think i'm gonna be okay i think it's gonna be okay

00:32:54.340 yeah well i will let's transition quickly into your new music i would love for you to tell us about

00:32:59.380 the new music how it's going yeah and what people can expect and what they can be excited to hear from you

00:33:04.320 miss maren morris yes um so i put an ep out like two months ago or so called intermission

00:33:09.820 it's just like five songs i'm working on a full album but uh i have this song that i wrote actually

00:33:17.040 last year with my friends uh laura belts and jack antonoff and i jack antonoff obviously everyone

00:33:23.380 ever heard of him he's a small indie artist yeah yeah hope he makes it big one day he works with a

00:33:29.720 couple women you wouldn't know him uh yeah nobody makes it big yeah i'm praying for him me too

00:33:34.940 hard times yeah he's hanging on it's so hard being him but yeah he's the best and i i wanted to put

00:33:42.480 that out like a long time ago but i was like something about right now just feel it's called

00:33:47.020 people still show up and that is that's never been more true than this particular year for me because

00:33:52.680 i went through like a lot of shit on the personal end and professionally just a lot of changes and i

00:33:59.420 just realized like my world got smaller in terms of like i didn't need as many people in it to feel

00:34:05.580 whole yeah like kind of downsized but i was just like wow it's it's all quality people it's all quality

00:34:14.340 experiences conversations even if i don't remember all of them like we we showed up for each other they

00:34:21.080 showed up for me it's also like for my my fans like coming to shows like it's you know on a year

00:34:27.360 i didn't put an album out still coming to shows this summer i was like y'all have been supportive

00:34:32.180 as fuck so i was like this song is for you but yeah um and then i'm just finishing this record

00:34:37.560 and very exciting yeah what are you looking forward to as far as your career down the line like are there

00:34:44.080 any collaborations that you would like love to see or you maybe can tease yeah if you feel so inclined

00:34:50.620 it's up to you i mean like obviously i would love to make another record with um my band the high

00:34:56.500 women uh which is like me brandy carlisle uh natalie hemby and amanda shires uh if we ever like are in

00:35:03.500 the same city again we will make that happen but um i think for me i just want to like be able to tour

00:35:08.960 and um you know i've i've kind of changed labels in the last year and it just all feels reset for me

00:35:16.700 right now which is that's cool you're resetting the table though exactly i love that though but

00:35:21.240 it's cool it's like i nothing scares me anymore yeah i've kind of been through it all yeah and i i

00:35:28.240 like this sort of like fresh reset phase of like i'm working with a lot of random people that i love

00:35:34.360 and i'm fans of and it just makes me so happy i i wrote a song with moona that came out on my

00:35:40.900 here yeah we're a big lesbian filled house so we love moona here moona knows we love them yes um

00:35:48.520 always and forever incredible songwriters like obviously and then naomi is just a badass producer

00:35:55.740 yeah so um they're so crazy talented it's crazy i know and and also just like hilarious i feel like

00:36:02.400 annoying they're too talented knock it off moona talented yeah it's like we we will write the song

00:36:08.960 but then it's like almost like the song's not the priority that day it's like just about the hang

00:36:13.900 yeah yeah that doesn't surprise me you have to like remind each other like oh shit like we should

00:36:18.660 probably write something we just like yammer on right but yeah they're too funny i love that how

00:36:24.160 exciting oh my gosh all my fans who are gay which is all of them um they're all gonna freak out when

00:36:29.520 they hear that oh my gosh how exciting okay oh well i do want to ask you this like as far as

00:36:34.740 when it comes to like melding the worlds of like your personal beliefs and ideologies and your music

00:36:42.100 and then having very real fear like if like oh what if this you know alienates an audience what if this

00:36:48.820 makes people not like me or not want to buy my stuff or stream my art or whatever uh for people who

00:36:54.040 maybe are struggling with that kind of like mentality what would you say is your best piece of advice for

00:36:58.420 them especially if they're women and if they identify as anything marginalized they're already kind of

00:37:02.400 working against an uphill battle so i think that's another reason why a lot of people are like oh i

00:37:06.720 don't want to talk about politics i don't want to talk about like what i believe in because i don't

00:37:10.980 want you know sometimes labels or brands or agencies they make you kind of not show certain parts of

00:37:16.860 yourself so that you don't alienate anyone or a consumer so what would you say is your best piece of

00:37:21.480 advice for those ones i mean if you are anyone but like a white cis straight male like your existence

00:37:31.240 is inherently political and politicized so tell them there is no escape from that yeah i think

00:37:38.980 you know i'm like a privileged white woman but in the the strictures of country music there are like

00:37:47.100 obviously uphill battles being a woman like absolutely still are like yeah any radio play like

00:37:53.500 it was it's still extremely slanted like it's not in the favor of us so i just think at your own

00:37:59.760 peril or risk like you are gonna go against things that make your skin thicker and you will get an

00:38:06.020 armor over time but you don't know until you go and like i think for me i never set out to be like

00:38:12.580 this activist artist it was just and i still write songs that are just like relationship songs like

00:38:17.480 songs about like a one night stand like whatever but like of course i've i've gone there on songs

00:38:23.460 too where it's like i want this to this is meaningful to me and this goes beyond like

00:38:28.200 just the surface level worldly relationships like this is something that like i wrote a song years

00:38:34.540 ago called better than we found it um after george floyd's murder and it was really just a song i

00:38:42.180 wanted to dedicate to my son who was like like eight months old at the time and it was just a really

00:38:47.700 important song for me to put out and of course i could have sat on it it could have sat in my inbox

00:38:53.360 for years but like it really meant a lot to people and it meant a lot to me and like i ended up getting

00:39:00.020 like a grammy nomination and you just don't know until you like go for it and totally but i also i'll

00:39:06.040 never like judge people for being afraid because it's fucking scary it is to put yourself out there i agree

00:39:12.900 especially if you're like you were saying you were playing in bars for years and like you know

00:39:17.960 wanting to be an artist or or just be able to put your art out there a lot of times all my friends

00:39:22.040 who are musicians like they never planned on ever like being famous like they just wanted to make art

00:39:27.320 and it worked it worked out but then i i feel like too at the same time obviously i'm just a dickhead

00:39:31.560 online and my my thing is antagonizing me i go in a nice swing on people who are not looking at me all

00:39:37.540 the time um but i always feel like if this is like like everything you work towards like you work so

00:39:43.560 hard to build your career and something like putting out a song like that could very well unravel all of

00:39:48.160 it but i always think like what is even the point of having it if i'm not going to use it to do

00:39:52.860 something like to do something good like to put something in the world or leave something behind

00:39:56.820 that is good inherently or is meant for good intention people so it's like i don't if that's what it

00:40:02.320 costs like if it costs me sacrificing pieces of myself that i believe in or i feel very strongly

00:40:08.160 about i don't want it like i don't want the fame i don't want the money i don't want any of it

00:40:12.320 if it means i have to like hide certain pieces so i that's why i said i really admire you for doing that

00:40:18.460 like and you being a white woman is it's it's very important that women who look like you do the same

00:40:23.580 thing it's like it's just like when i stand up or you stand up for trans women it's important that cis

00:40:29.160 women are fighting alongside them it's important that we check each other it's important that we

00:40:34.320 clock each other and we tell each other like it's important that we believe in these things and we

00:40:38.120 talk about them openly too because it matters yeah because no one's free until we're all free

00:40:43.540 i know what i mean so i i admire you for that i think it's i think it's fantastic and the fact

00:40:48.200 that you continue to do it i truly believe just like just like megan trainer i truly believe good

00:40:54.120 people are rare and that's why you've lasted this long like that's what you're doing so well

00:40:58.420 thank you i'll give you more flowers i'll give them all to you maryn no that means so much i mean

00:41:02.860 like you've just found like a really brilliant way of well obviously speaking to your audience but

00:41:09.120 also growing an audience because of your honesty but also the way that you articulate even if it's

00:41:14.120 like you're eviscerating someone you're doing it from a place of like the building blocks of

00:41:20.700 the the educational purpose of it thank you so that's really fucking hard to do and i speak as

00:41:27.100 someone that doesn't do it well like i am extremely emotional and like i should have taken like

00:41:34.060 debate team in high school or something so i could properly form a sentence in person with people

00:41:38.440 like just if i'm angry i feel you i just cry yeah i feel you so twitter that's why twitter was always

00:41:44.120 like it's good for the way i know it's like i can do this and like think about what my words are but

00:41:48.960 like no it's like a really uh once in a generational type of thing that you've created and it's like as

00:41:56.720 someone that's like always consumed media like i i like grew up on britney and christina and like

00:42:01.740 i i was like this kind of pop cultural thing of creators like you there's a lot of people making

00:42:09.920 incredible content but also like figuring out how to like do it in a really succinct impactful way

00:42:15.760 that's not distracted it's like extremely laser focused it's just very inspiring that's very

00:42:21.400 sweet thank you so much yeah i sometimes i describe it as like like when you have to give your dog pills

00:42:26.140 put it in cheese and give it to them oh my god see like you just to my audience i'm like come here i'm

00:42:31.480 gonna give you this pill but don't worry it's gonna taste good and then you'll be healthy and everyone

00:42:34.660 will it'll it'll be fine but i always tell people too i'm like i know if i'm your introduction to

00:42:40.040 intersectional feminism i think that's fantastic i think it's wonderful and i always say please don't

00:42:44.320 stop with me yeah there are far more people that are far more educated than i and far more like

00:42:49.920 equipped to explain things to you in a much more historical and factual way my way is telling people

00:42:55.780 to suck my wiener sure that works for you period works for me too you're the gateway drug there you

00:43:00.880 go that's why i said you just start with don't stop with me you can start with me just don't stop

00:43:04.900 with me but i i really do appreciate that and i appreciate um your fucking artistry i think you're

00:43:10.720 just i think you're so fantastic and i think honestly a lot of times women who write like

00:43:16.080 write music for a long time period you guys are some of the most genius women alive first of all

00:43:22.320 that's always like the way your brain works i envy that i have no musical capabilities whatsoever i got

00:43:28.060 nothing i got nothing god said give that bitch funny and that's it yeah so that's what he gave me

00:43:33.460 and i'm like well yeah i can make you laugh that's for sure i can't i can't i can't romance you with

00:43:38.540 a song but yeah but it's still like a creative thing too because it's like some days i've got

00:43:41.920 nothing like some days i my brain deletes and like i forget how to write a song like i i just it's

00:43:47.980 everything is overthought and awful and like you just have to accept that those are the days where

00:43:52.140 you're like oh this was just like a chicken shit day just sucks i suck especially when you're

00:43:57.640 writing with moona they're too distracting yeah talented well i like thank god katie's here to write

00:44:02.240 some words because my brain's mush i'm just gonna be the singer today yeah for real okay so

00:44:08.080 to wrap us i will say just for a close some closing thoughts for anyone who's listening

00:44:14.280 any sort of aspiring just i would say just musician in general not having to do with beliefs or

00:44:19.020 ideology or anything like that do you have any i know being an artist i feel like especially like

00:44:23.800 you said with tiktok a lot of people are kind of taking rainbow road a little bit cutting out the

00:44:28.900 the part where they get to kind of cut their teeth like you were saying earlier so for any up-and-coming

00:44:34.140 artists or musicians or writers or anything like that do you have any advice for them and

00:44:37.980 entering this new kind of world of music it's kind of shifted like you said yeah drastically in the

00:44:42.380 last 10 years so and i have like so much you know sympathy for that too because i'm lucky i got in

00:44:48.260 before all of that i know was the only platform but i would just say like i know this is extremely

00:44:54.360 you know banal advice at this point but you just have got to be patient because if you believe in

00:45:02.880 your thing and almost you have to be delusional like you have to i tell people that all the time

00:45:08.840 i say that too i mean that's the word for it but like you can say like ambitious or whatever but

00:45:14.260 you're delusional yeah you have to have like a sparkle of that like you always know when someone

00:45:20.020 has too much and you're like okay my god you want this too bad people can smell it yeah um for real

00:45:25.900 no just be patient because like you know if you're making music in your bedroom in like the

00:45:31.640 midwest or if you're moving to la or nashville or wherever you just have to like swallow that pride

00:45:37.560 of like there are a lot of fucking talented people yeah in front of you in the line yeah and like if

00:45:44.260 you are good and you keep practicing and showing up and not being fucking late not flaking like whether

00:45:50.980 you write alone or with other people or whatever you want to do i'm just really kind of talking about

00:45:54.880 songwriters but our artists it's like you've got to grow your thing and find ways of course creatively

00:46:02.960 to to set it apart but like just it's okay if it doesn't happen this year like overnight yeah because

00:46:11.900 like for me i've gone through ebbs and flows in my career like it's been 10 years more so if you count

00:46:17.960 like my teenage years of touring but like i've had moments where i've had like massive hits that year

00:46:23.020 and then i've had like years where there hasn't been one yeah and but i can tour and like i can

00:46:28.060 build a fan base over time and like have something identity wise to say and like a connection with them

00:46:35.200 that goes beyond a big fucking song on tiktok or the chart like you have to build over time and that is

00:46:43.140 when you start to see artists have like decades long careers no for real and honestly when chapel was on

00:46:49.280 she's like some people i hate the industry plant shit and she's like because i've been doing this

00:46:53.740 for 10 years i got signed when i was like 14 yeah and i was like i know i know that about you but

00:46:58.900 she's but because people see her on tiktok they're like oh my god just like overnight everyone's talking

00:47:03.440 about her well everyone's overnight until like if you haven't heard of them so it's like there's always

00:47:09.200 a backstory i said that about my book when men were discrediting me getting a bestseller they were

00:47:14.820 saying like oh everyone's a bestseller i go you know why you think that because you don't fucking read

00:47:18.260 yeah the only books you hear about are bestsellers aren't they yeah you're hearing about my book

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00:48:27.480 clearly can't read it for real you fucking illiterate bitch on top of that though i'm like on top of that

00:48:33.100 the fucking book thing i'm like okay well if it's so easy you go do it yeah let me know how it works

00:48:39.140 out yeah if it's so easy apparently it's so easy according to men who uh never read can barely read

00:48:44.020 um and got scared to get called out in class to read apparently it's super easy so all and i went on

00:48:49.180 a book tour that whole summer and every time i talked about it my sister was like which is super

00:48:53.500 easy so no one should clap it's like super fucking easy don't worry about it it's not impressive so true

00:48:58.360 really easy you just go out there and do it that's why everyone does it that's why they're like

00:49:02.340 oh it's so easy what she does yeah and you're like okay yeah then you go do it i know i also get

00:49:07.400 what you mean too about like there's a lot of talented people in the world i think that all the

00:49:11.300 time too that's why i think people like you have such long careers and like establish such like

00:49:16.340 strong roots because you're a good person and you're really fucking good at what you do like

00:49:20.880 it's just it's impossible to not see you that's what i always think like that's operating from i think

00:49:26.000 a scarcity mindset when people are like oh like what about this what about that uh i always think

00:49:30.580 i'm gonna shine regardless so all the talented people let's all go together yeah like let's let's

00:49:36.460 link arms and listen i go through that too everyone does it's human like the scarcity thing or just like

00:49:43.080 feeling an envy like because it's happening for your friend and not you like that's normal and that's

00:49:48.640 you just have to like hunker down again for like the ebb and the flow like if you are constantly

00:49:55.120 like anvil on the gas pedal you're gonna burn out really quick yeah you're not gonna keep people

00:50:01.320 around you're gonna like probably crumble yourself like you know mentally yeah and there's just no

00:50:07.220 longevity in the short game so for me this is why i've said like i'm glad american idol and the voice

00:50:13.560 and like all these competitions like rejected me like when i auditioned in my teen years you listing

00:50:19.480 all of them there's like 10 there's probably more i haven't mentioned but i was like thank god

00:50:24.480 yeah there's quite a few i think like you i would have burned through it like i would have gotten so

00:50:29.580 over it and then like i wouldn't i wouldn't have been ready talent wise or mentally yeah so it's kind

00:50:35.740 of like if you have this massive fucking tiktok moment yeah it's like amazing and people are like

00:50:40.800 they've got eyes on you then it's like what's next yeah dance like yeah you have to you have to dance

00:50:46.860 yeah wearing matching outfits and now you have to create a dance yeah literally my one of my first

00:50:52.280 when i first blew up a brand reached out to me i don't even remember what it was and they were like

00:50:56.300 oh if you want to work with drew and we're like okay cool like my agent's kind of talking to them

00:50:59.900 and they were like yeah um we're doing this tiktok dance and like this is what it is and they sent it

00:51:04.940 to me and my agent didn't really know me that well at the time because we'd only been working together

00:51:08.880 for a couple months and she was like how do you feel about this i was like oh no yeah i don't do that

00:51:14.320 so yeah oh no no no no no tell them thank you peace and blessings on your household no thank

00:51:18.900 you yeah if i'm doing it and no shade but if i'm doing it it's as a joke that's what i mean yeah

00:51:24.360 that's what i'm saying for money i'm drunk no and i'm with my friends yeah it's for funsies yeah

00:51:30.260 funsies that's different that being said um for the right amount of money would i do it

00:51:34.000 i don't know it's not off the table let me know for enough zero let us know yeah let us know let me and

00:51:40.480 no okay so we'll wrap really quickly but i want to thank you very much for coming on the show i

00:51:45.080 think you're just fucking fantastic oh my god same i'm obsessed with you and i'm so excited well

00:51:50.720 everything you're doing the bestseller thing was like such a massive win for you but also like for

00:51:56.040 all of us that are fans it's like we get to celebrate it with you and then also congrats on

00:52:00.840 your engagement oh my gosh you guys are thank you oh my god thank you thank you oh my god that's so

00:52:07.640 crazy how did you know i'm waiting for my invitation in the mail maryn morris if you

00:52:12.540 want to come to my wedding i am gonna invite you and you cannot rescind it because it's on camera

00:52:17.380 so i'll i'll sing the middle at the reception what do you want the way i got chills on my spine

00:52:25.720 the way i got butterflies

00:52:27.200 maryn okay all right booked i'm assuming for free verbal contract binding your team is here thank you

00:52:35.300 very much i appreciate y'all but thank you for coming on the show i think you're fucking awesome

00:52:39.580 and i can't wait to see what you do i'm so excited for your new music thank you and she sent me a sneak

00:52:43.780 peek of it suckers yeah i listened to it not you sucker so you need to get into it but for those that

00:52:50.700 are born yesterday and haven't met you or heard of you well obviously none of you have met her i've

00:52:55.920 met her again sucker uh where can everybody find you um all the normal shit maryn morris on literally

00:53:03.920 everything and then any music or anything you want to plug uh my song people still show ups out um

00:53:11.680 yeah go go listen to it there's probably not going to be a dance for me on it but someone make one

00:53:18.100 yeah go for it i will promote it but i i'm not the girl not the girl to ask for that but you can

00:53:23.620 listen to it on spotify our favorite platform you can listen to this episode with maryn and then you

00:53:28.100 can go listen to all of her discography it's extensive and fantastic and wonderful but thank

00:53:32.480 you so much for coming on the show thank you all for tuning in to this week's episode of the comment

00:53:36.240 section don't forget new episodes drop every wednesday you can stream the audio on all streaming

00:53:40.040 platforms or you can watch the video for free and exclusively on our favorite platform spotify right

00:53:44.360 after you listen to all of maryn's music on a loop for at least an hour that's an order that's

00:53:49.720 all right thank you so much for coming thank you all for watching and i'll see you next week bye

OH IT’S EASY？ THEN YOU DO IT Ft. Maren Morris ｜ Episode 143

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