“PICK ME GIRL?" MORE LIKE...DON'T PICK ME | Drew Afualo ft. Pokimane | THE COMMENT SECTION EP 40
Summary
In this final episode of Season 2 of the comment section, we're joined by the one and only Pokemon! We discuss Pokemon's life growing up in the 90s and early 2000s, how he got started in the gaming industry, and what it's like being an online gambler.
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There have been certain times where, like, I received perhaps, like, an excess wave of harassment of some sort.
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Hey everyone, and welcome back to the season finale of season two of the comment section show.
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Anyways, on to the most exciting part of every episode.
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We have my very special guest, the one and only Pokemon.
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I swear this is like the intro to everything ever that I do.
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You can call me Pokemon, you can call me Pokemon, you can call me Iman, you can call me whatever
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I mean, honestly, your audience can also call you whatever they want.
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Yeah, they call me whatever, honestly, at this point.
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Yeah, I usually just tell people Pokey for short.
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So cute, because I was, literally, someone was like, it's Iman, because your name's Iman.
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When I went to VidCon this year, I was like, when I had filled out the forms and everything
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for like my badge, I was like thinking to myself, because they were like, what's your
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And I was thinking to myself, because I'm so old, I'm glad that I got big under my real
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name, because I had some choice usernames back in the day.
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One of them was, look, I'm like, my butthole went inside my body because I was thinking about
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what it was, and I'm going to be honest and open, and this is a safe space, and I don't
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And if anyone's mean to me, send me your location, because we're going to fight in the street
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One of my usernames when I was on MySpace was Cooliest Forever, and I'm not proud of it.
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I don't care what you have to say, but that's my cross to bear.
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We all had usernames that we're not proud of back in the day.
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It was just, the cringe is so bad, it makes my skin hurt.
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But that's besides the point, because we're here to talk with Pokemon.
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When I was, that was me manifesting when I was like, how old was I?
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I don't know how much more intro you need to do, but I need to start off by saying, I am such
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Me and my friends, because, you know, in our industry, probably in all male-dominated industries,
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And we always talk about, like, we need, like, a mini you in Twitch or in gaming so we can
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And we're going to get into that because that's our topic for today, but gaming as, like, a
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woman or a femme-presenting person, because obviously the Twitch stream community is huge
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right now, especially on social media, and it is very male-dominated, but there are very
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prominent female figures in the gaming industry, like Pokemon, for example, a vetted a goat.
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So that's why I said Pokemon is some gaming dude's fantasy girl, like Dream Girl, and
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When I see those TikToks of yours, I'm like, hmm.
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So, well, you've been in the industry for how long now?
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17, but then I went full-time at like 21 or something.
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Has it shifted a lot since the beginning to now?
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I feel like this is one of those things that I share sometimes just to really give anyone
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who's maybe not in the industry perspective into how much things have changed.
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I'd say like maybe six years ago or something, there's a friend of mine who is also a streamer,
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She used to play World of Warcraft professionally.
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So, back then, she had qualified for a certain tournament.
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And another team who had also qualified changed their team name to Gunna R-Word, like S-A.
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Like their entire team name was We Will Do Something Very Bad to This Girl at regionals or whatever.
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And stuff like that was like normalized to the extent that like whether it's in a tournament or a company is advertising it.
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Because there are companies that have to back these tournaments.
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And let's say that's like, I know, it's insane.
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But since then, it has thankfully gotten much better.
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Like you won't see necessarily that, but still a lot of just like rancid misogyny on the platform.
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The stuff that guys with large platforms say, it's embarrassing.
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And it also, it taints, it taints the water for everyone because then some people might
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be afraid to stream because they don't want to have to go through that.
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Like what you go through, what your friend went through.
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I'd love your thoughts on like, from my perspective, I really like sharing my experiences in general.
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But sometimes I worry about sharing the worst of it because I don't want to discourage people
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But also sometimes I want to be for real, like it's not always rainbows and flowers.
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And you and I are very unique in that sense too, because you're in a very volatile, very
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And then the niche that I have is volatile in its very nature.
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So like our experiences differ greatly from like the average, like lifestyle influencer,
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But my perspective on it is like, there are some things that you don't share just purely
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because they're a danger to you or your family for whatever reason.
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But there are some things that I do share solely because it is the reality that we face.
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And then when you, you know, obviously I'm constantly talking shit, but like if you were
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to ever talk shit, sometimes people, their initial reaction will be like, well, you should
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You shouldn't addressing, like you're just giving them more power by responding to it.
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If I'm being honest, if you're bold and private, you'll be bold and public, bitch.
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Like when they send me terrible shit, I post it and I don't blur out names.
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You better hope I don't find a picture of what you look like, bitch.
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Oh, you better wipe that hard drive clean, babe.
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And I've said that many times because the way that they do it in private, they do it
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so calculated because they're banking on you not saying anything or even seeing it.
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Sometimes they'll say like, I didn't even think you were going to see it.
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They're banking on never having to face the consequences of their own actions.
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I made a, I made a TikTok once where, cause someone had commented on one of my videos.
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He's like, I've never seen an attractive Drew supporter.
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And then I stitched, I literally found a picture of his face and use your imagination of what
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But I literally, I put his comment and then I put his face and I did it like 10 other
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I put a mean ass comment and then I put what they looked like.
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And then some people were like, this is so messed up.
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Why would you, if you're going to call me a fat Buffalo, I'm going to show everyone what
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And then I'm going to ask the audience who's better looking.
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You want to talk teams, which one of us is better.
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Like I'm going to put an Instagram poll and say, vote on which one of us you think is better
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I think people love to use like half ass logic against you of like, Oh, you're, you're being
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And it's like, you're lacking so much context here.
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Why are you only focused on this one thing she's doing when in reality, like you're never
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just going to blindly be mean to people, unlike the people who go after you or go after other
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And then I think, you know, if someone opens that door to a conversation, well, then let's
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I literally said on, on my last promo for my last episode with Johnny Sibley, I literally,
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they're like, have you ever thought about she's a mean person?
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I said, you're, you're silly then you're, you want to be silly goose.
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I'm like, yes, and for a purpose, but also, also you're only mean when someone's mean
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And that is so, so much better than a lot of other people that these guys support.
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Cause some of the comments on that video were like, how is that a flex?
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Just like some people that you meet can be very nice and be terrible people.
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Like you think about, um, if you hear stories of like men, put that in the Bible.
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They, you hear stories of men cheating on their wives.
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And then you ask their buddies and they're like, oh, he's a nice dude.
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And, and like you said, factoring in context, they never do that.
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They simply close their ears when I, when, when they hear the first half.
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And you're like, did you watch the video she's talking about?
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And then I think with your situation as well, like a lot of men, I'm sure you get this.
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I'm so, I'm so curious to know of men telling you how to, how to be a better gamer to a streamer, giving you advice or telling you, you should do it this way.
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Oh, I can't even imagine the man's planning that goes on.
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And it's annoying because when it comes to gaming, like, listen, sweetie, I've been doing this eight plus.
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And I'm not like a professional professional, but usually in a lot of games, I'll be like maybe diamond-ish, which let's say is like top 1% of player base.
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Because like I'm doing this day in and day out.
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And when people come in and shut up, hey, you should have, hey, you should, you should.
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Like statistically speaking, I know there's a 99% chance.
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You don't know what the hell you're talking about.
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But on top of that, oftentimes they'll say like, why didn't you do this thing?
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And I'm like, you're using like a silver mindset.
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You don't understand that I can't do this because of X, Y, Z.
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You're all like, I'm not going to break it down for you.
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Your questions show me you don't even understand.
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The way they'll explain anything to you, no matter what you say, they'll literally explain it to you.
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Like I, this is like an equivalent, like a parallel to what you're talking about.
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But I made a video once about professional female athletes and I was talking about how men love, love, they like can't, they have to coach from the sidelines, right?
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Like they love to be like, yeah, like it's not even a real, you know, they, they hyper criticize them, especially like female basketball players, like women that also play a very prominent male sport, like the equivalent to it.
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They're always like, well, you're not on the field.
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And I'm always like, well, you're at home, bitch.
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The way that I'm like, even on your, even in your most athletic state, you could never do what they do.
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But they also like, they'll say things like, well, the, the man's like deadlift or bench, like record world record is this many pounds and blah, blah, blah.
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They're like, the female one is 500 pounds, 600 pounds.
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Then maybe, maybe, maybe, you know what I mean?
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There have been certain times where like I receive perhaps like an excess wave of harassment of some sort.
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And I want you to know you are my sergeant in those times.
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I'm like, okay, learning how to reply to this shit.
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And then on my stream, people will talk some shit.
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And I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks this because I feel like oftentimes women can be told certain things.
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And although we know what the person is saying is so damn wrong, we don't always know how to retaliate.
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And I feel like you just put it into words so beautifully.
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And I'm like, yes, I'm writing that down for sure.
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Well, I love to read some TikTok where you're like, well, guys, think I'm saying slay.
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I was like, you know, the ones that get it, get it.
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The ones that are picking up what I'm putting down, y'all get it.
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I think it's that's like one of my favorite parts of what it is I do is hearing feedback like that where women and others tell me like you've given me the tools.
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To like defend myself, which I think is a great thing.
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Are you someone who's naturally not confrontational?
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You know, usually throughout my career, the way that I felt is both easiest and most acceptable to respond to things that I really disagree with is like always making a joke out of it.
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She said, if I don't blur someone's name, it's over kind of thing.
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But now I found like the key is just if you can make a joke out of it, it's OK.
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I will roast and toast you and then I'll just giggle at the end.
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It was just if you can say it's a joke, I can say it's a joke.
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At the end of the day, I'm here for the silly, goofy time only.
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I was like, you guys were having a ball before I got here.
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How come the silly, goofy time stopped when I got in?
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That's why I said it's like double dutch and it's my turn to jump in.
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And then all of a sudden they're tripping through.
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All of a sudden they don't want to play anymore.
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All of a sudden you want to pack up the ropes and go home.
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Obviously, as we said earlier, we're talking about gaming as a woman or...
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If I'm presenting person in the space and how, you know, rampant and vile it can be.
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I think a good example, two days ago, I think, I had just been in New York with my family.
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I spent like a weekend there with my parents and it took me two years.
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I was born in Morocco, which is in North Africa.
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So growing up, I always felt like very indebted to my parents because we didn't have any family
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Like my grandparents, my parents, siblings, everybody is still in Morocco.
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So growing up, like it was very, it was very, very apparent to me that my parents sacrificed
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everything for us to just be in Canada for me and my brother to have better opportunities.
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So in New York, it had been two years of me trying to convince them, like, let me just
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The only reason I am where I am is because of the sacrifices you guys made.
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And there were a lot of really supportive people.
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The way that you open those quote retweets and you're like, what?
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But what blows my mind and what I didn't really talk about publicly is like, the same
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guys who will be undermined to be like, ew, why are you saying this?
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We'll be the same guys who will like, cheer, like, comment, subscribe on a YouTube, like
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a guy YouTuber who's posting his like fourth Lambo reveal.
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Wait, you're mad at me for my parents' retirement.
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But at the same time, it's also big hater shit.
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It's just someone being a hater for just the sake of being a hater.
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You can be happy for someone who has the opportunity to take care of their family and then, you
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know, at the same time wish that you too could do that.
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So there's a difference between being jealous and being envious.
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Like someone, I feel like someone, it's all about intent.
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When you're jealous, there's a lot of malice in there.
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When you're envious, you're like, you know, I wish I could do that.
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Like, we're all envious of someone at some point, even at the levels that you're at,
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The reason I tweeted that, it's not even like a flex, be jealous.
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Obviously, it's like, I'm so happy and proud that my, like, I feel like talking about the
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story of like being an immigrant in this country is very important and showcasing like, yeah,
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And if anything, it's hoping that people will be inspired by those things.
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I can, I just cannot be in the brain of someone who looks at that and they're like, I must be
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I would never look at that and be like, okay, I'm going to write about how ugly this bitch
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I go to sleep very comfortably with someone who loves me.
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When I see shit like that, I'm like, oh, you're sad.
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A faceless profile, anime picture, zero followers, account created that day.
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They replied to your tweet five times, hoping someone will notice.
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The way that some men, I literally tweeted about this today because they like updated Instagram
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where, you know how before, like if someone reposted your photo, unless they tagged you,
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And when I was going through it, some kid literally reposted a picture of me dressed as a hot Cheeto.
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The most insufferable human on planet Earth of all time, brother?
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No, I think there's a couple other people that have me beat for first place.
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But, but when I reposted, I literally tweeted it because I was like, at this point, you're
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Is it not hilarious to you that, is it not hilarious to you that they used to hot Cheeto
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That's why I'm like, of all the pics, babe, like, the most insufferable, I mean, you're
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not wrong in that, I guess in that costume, you're not wrong.
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The funny thing about that, too, is, like, my platform is solely, almost solely comprised
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So, like, that does nothing but bolster my career.
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Yo, babe, the opportunities that I get because you cannot stop talking shit on me, I mean,
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I swear they, I don't know how they don't get that.
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You tuning in, writing in my, people will literally sit there, post shit, get banned,
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You're keeping me at the top of the charts, sweetie.
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That's why I was like, you're, you're, I made a joke once, like, someone, someone's
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like, I bet you she makes her boyfriend cook for her or some shit like that.
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I forget what it was about, but I was like, what's the problem?
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I guess it's illegal for them to go in the kitchen, apparently.
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But then I was like, if anything, like, because they, like, these comments, like, keep
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I am like, okay, do you follow Meg Thee Stallion?
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And you know how she's just like, she's always posting, always doing shit.
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Like, she has a new announcement every two days.
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And because I'm like, at a different point, I'm like, so proud of you.
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I also say, too, like, it's something that feeds itself.
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Like, I saw someone do, like, an analysis of me saying that, like, the fact that people
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tag me in other videos is, like, my own marketing team.
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So, it's like, they said, if anything, she's a genius.
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And if someone doesn't know you, they'll just see that comment.
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I've seen countless comments where they're like, who the f*** is that?
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And I'm like, oh, you're going to find out the hard way, unfortunately, for you by saying
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For those of you who don't know, we're going to, what we do here on the comment section is
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we bring videos that I was tagged in that are applicable to our topic.
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So, to apply to our topic, obviously, as gaming as a woman or if I'm presenting person, this
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first video, I just give little descriptions of them, is a woman.
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She posted a video with the caption, POV, she's in a lobby with all guys, and acts out
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All these guys' voices start yelling at her, saying things like, it's a girl.
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I mean, obviously, it's patriarchal, but, like, games, that's, like, they're not gendered.
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I love to make that example, too, because it's like, imagine you saw, like, a hobby that
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Do you think girls would be like, get back in the office?
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It's just, like, the most intense form of, like, of misogyny.
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But, yeah, a Call of Duty lobby is out of this world bonkers.
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I remember, I think I've played Call of Duty, like, a handful of times.
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I'm not a big first-person game person, so it never really called to me that kind of game.
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And even when Fortnite first, like, blew up, like, I played that a few times.
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And I literally only played that so I could get, like, so I could win at least once.
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When I got my first victory royale, I was like, I guess I'm Pokemon.
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I, like, I don't know, like, even in that game, too, they would say some crazy things
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I actually think out of everything, Fortnite might be where they're, no, no, no, one of the
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I actually, optimistically, I think the majority of gamers are nice, normal people.
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Especially because there are so many casual players.
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But I think it's those that play all the time and it's all they do.
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And also, I think because a lot of the gaming audience can be, like, 10-year-old boys.
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I can always tell when an insult came from, like, a 13-year-old white kid.
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Like, the way they write the sentences, it's so-
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Like, they're speaking in haikus low-key to me.
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They're like, you are stupid and fat and also ugly.
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And I always know when it's, like, a 14-year-old kid.
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Your brain is clearly not fully developed in any capacity.
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I think some of these really young boys, because they look up to, like, older men in this industry.
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There was a clip where, like, three weeks ago, you are grown, like, 35, maybe, has a daughter.
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And he's like, oh, my God, guys, like, let's be serious.
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Remember when we would all be in a lobby and, like, we would see that on the opposing team there were names that were girly.
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And we would call them, like, whores and this and that.
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And we would tell them to go back into the kitchen.
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No, these bitches are in here with money and platforms.
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That's like when someone says, I wish I could go back to, like, old-
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And sometimes, too, when you see, like, if men, like, because I've had men, like, attack
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me like that and say, like, in the past, men, women used to do blah, blah, blah.
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I'm like, in the past, women didn't have rights.
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No shit your grandma stayed with your grandpa no matter how much he abused her.
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If she had the choice, she probably would have left.
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To win, not just women, but other minorities didn't have rights?
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Him peaking and being like, oh, weren't those the days when you could-
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Boasting about insulting someone based on a girly username?
00:32:25.380
What if it was something, like, that's extremely gender neutral, like Riley?
00:32:32.620
But that's why I'm like, what's the name supposed to be?
00:32:42.000
I would literally make it the most, like, ridiculously manly name.
00:32:48.400
My friend actually makes her username Manly Man Chad.
00:32:57.880
Sometimes I would, um, when my boyfriend would play, like, Fortnite or, uh, Call of Duty,
00:33:07.400
And they would say terrible shit to me, but he's really good at that game.
00:33:16.520
If it's the beginning of a game and all of a sudden someone's talking shit because of
00:33:21.240
Or maybe because, like, they have two kills and you don't have any.
00:33:26.940
I'm like, when I notice someone just, like, raging, being rude, I'm like, oh.
00:33:36.520
And then when I have double their kills, then I turn my mic on.
00:33:44.140
I literally would- I would just talk to them like we were on the phone because I thought
00:34:05.700
So some of the comments on this, it says, like, that's the boys for you.
00:34:08.600
You got to accept it, I think is what they're trying to say.
00:34:13.580
This one says don't play if you can't handle it.
00:34:34.520
If I lose to a gamer girl in any game, I'm quitting gaming for life.
00:34:39.780
Comments like that piss me off so much because it's like, I don't even think you realize
00:34:49.880
Like, if I lose to a girl, I'm quitting forever.
00:34:54.700
I'm going to teach myself how to be really good at it and I'm going to seek you out personally
00:34:59.520
I'm going to make you quit every game you love.
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Every time you find a new one, I'm going to study that one and I'm going to get better
00:35:08.280
Actually, what's funny, I think one of the only reasons I'm as successful as I've been
00:35:18.880
It's like, I don't think they realize, but the misogynistic, sexist haters, you guys are
00:35:25.700
I'm like, oh, you guys make it so I'm never satisfied, so I'm going to keep going.
00:35:32.820
Sometimes, I remember one time, I went to this simulator thing with my boyfriend's family
00:35:40.400
and it was a scene where you're training for situations.
00:35:46.760
It's basically you're pretending to shoot, but there's no real gun and it's like a simulator.
00:35:52.140
And so there's targets and you just see how fast you can hit them all.
00:35:57.040
And so my boyfriend and his brother are very competitive to the point where it's upsetting.
00:36:02.620
So where we have to separate them or they cannot compete against each other because it
00:36:07.460
But I remember when we were doing it that night, I literally was like, the only person
00:36:12.080
I'm going to be is your brother because it's going to upset him and that makes me giggle.
00:36:15.500
He's not a bad person that by any means, he's just so competitive.
00:36:19.860
I literally only was trying so I could beat him.
00:36:23.800
And then I said, I don't need to shoot anymore.
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And it's like, I only do that to people who take it too seriously.
00:36:36.840
He just gets too competitive and it makes me giggle.
00:36:40.840
At least that one's funny, but it's so satisfying when they're like, I hate that.
00:36:49.260
That's why I said like him saying I'm quitting forever.
00:36:54.300
I just read your chart and it says it's your that you're a bitch rising.
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So this next video, we'll move on to the next one.
00:37:05.280
Um, this is a woman posted a video of herself with the caption.
00:37:09.660
You don't know how hard it is being a gamer girl and inserted quotes she's received from
00:37:13.700
men while playing like, go make me a sandwich, go back to the kitchen, et cetera.
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And obviously, the comments are not kind in any capacity.
00:37:25.200
And honestly, that's on the nice end of things.
00:37:39.360
I've had, um, some creators come on my show in the past and they've said like, do you
00:37:45.100
ever get like a, oh, that was Dylan, Dylan, my friend, Dylan Mulvaney.
00:37:48.980
She was like, do you ever have someone being like, oh, like she looks good here, but I
00:37:54.260
And I go, no, it's mostly just, I hate this fat bitch.
00:37:59.440
I would rather that because like, sometimes I'll get comments that are like, I can't
00:38:04.940
stand this bitch, but like, if she, if she stopped talking, I would like shit like that.
00:38:16.000
I'd rather you, I'd rather you talk all about my looks than pretend for even a second that
00:38:20.280
you would ever get the chance to breathe next to me, let alone date me in any capacity.
00:38:24.800
Actually, what I noticed, what I noticed in my industry is more so like the very subtle
00:38:31.460
misogyny that people might not realize where if I do something perhaps admirable in, in
00:38:37.760
any way, people will say, oh, I don't like her, but this is cool.
00:38:46.080
You could say something is cool without specifying how much you don't like you.
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Because they do like you and they do follow you.
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Just think about why do you need to preface that?
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I did a video recently where I talked about, like there was this girl and she was at this
00:39:08.440
house and she was like, how tall are you to these dudes?
00:39:23.120
But like I talked in the video about how like it's not the fact that you're short.
00:39:31.720
I'm looking at your scalp and you're telling me you're six two.
00:39:37.120
So I remember when I, when I said in the video, I said this whole thing and I was like, I
00:39:42.000
make fun of height because you cannot be terrible and be short.
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But if you, if you're awful and short, I'm going to make fun of how tall you are.
00:39:58.860
But I had some dudes comment on my video and they were like, I really hate this girl, but
00:40:05.380
Like some dude was like extremely rare drew W or some shit like that.
00:40:11.280
And it's like, can you just compliment without having to put someone down to you?
00:40:19.280
And then they'll say, they're like, I actually really hate your videos, but this one is good.
00:40:23.320
And then I'll literally put, I'll literally put suck my dick, bro.
00:40:26.100
And then some dudes will be like, he was giving you a compliment.
00:40:36.320
He was giving me a shit sandwich is what he was giving me.
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I think sometimes people don't even notice that they're doing that.
00:40:45.980
So I just want to put this, like, think about why you feel the need to insult and then
00:40:57.860
It's also very like, it gives me the dude who's not outwardly bigoted or misogynistic,
00:41:11.120
Those dudes are honestly worse to me than an outright bigot because at least an outright
00:41:20.820
Internalized misogyny is a slow but insidious killer.
00:41:27.420
And it's very, it's, it starts in such subtle ways.
00:41:30.340
Like, like, it was like, this is such a, this is a literal, like, random scenario.
00:41:35.520
I was in my boyfriend's car and we were driving and we stopped to get gas and some song came
00:41:50.940
I was telling my boyfriend, I go, I wonder if something funny.
00:41:54.200
If I was a terrible, like, low-key misogynistic white dude, I would literally be like, if
00:42:01.700
He would, I would look, he would look at me and he'd be like, I bet you don't even know
00:42:11.760
He'll say, he would say something like that to me and I'd be like, the Silver Sun Pickups
00:42:27.280
I completely, at least the other ones are easy to avoid.
00:42:30.060
These guys, it's like, hmm, they seem safe at first.
00:42:33.400
Yeah, and they say little things like that and they're supposed to be comments and they're
00:42:38.420
They're, each of them is a, is a negging, like, it's a, it has a bunch of undertones to it
00:42:43.100
that are rooted in misogyny, even if they don't consciously think they're doing that.
00:42:47.340
If they act and talk like that, I promise you, they know what they're doing, which is
00:42:55.020
I feel like the internalized sexism and misogyny is something that will be really hard to erase.
00:43:01.800
Dude, to this day, I hear about companies within gaming that still have that issue.
00:43:07.700
Like, girls have shared stories with me where them and a guy are both trying to get hired.
00:43:12.880
Her interview process is very different from his.
00:43:16.000
As soon as she's like, oh yeah, of course I like this game, Bobo, they're like, oh yeah,
00:43:22.540
But the guy, like, they'll just take his word for it.
00:43:31.900
As like, if you're wearing like an Iron Maiden shirt and they're like, name three songs
00:43:37.780
Even if I don't know them, let me wear a freaking shirt.
00:43:47.160
I hate questions like that, but that's the shit I'm talking about where it's like, it's
00:43:52.400
If a guy ever says you're not like other girls, I'm leaving.
00:43:57.640
I'm like, you know, immediately I'm like, I'm like every other bitch, you know, take
00:44:05.900
I don't want to see you ever again and lose my number.
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So the comments on this, it says any girl who calls themselves a gamer is automatically
00:44:25.200
So clearly you're not a doctor because you're a girl.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:44:41.740
Only one other people call me that, but I can't, no.
00:44:49.100
This one says, if you're one of those pick me girls, I'm going out of my way to ruin
00:44:54.940
The idea of a pick me has been conflated so terribly with terrible men.
00:45:03.520
A pick me is someone who, a woman who puts down other women for the sole purpose of male
00:45:09.540
Like everything she does is for male validation.
00:45:11.440
Whether it's tearing down other women or tearing down herself, it's just internalized
00:45:18.300
And it's women, women who, women can absolutely be misogynistic.
00:45:23.520
Just like you can be a person of color and be racist.
00:45:37.540
That's why it says like, she literally says I was, I'm being harassed as like a, as a
00:45:57.320
Or women who have internalized, that's the stuff that makes me the saddest.
00:46:01.040
When a guy's shitty, I'm like, eh, just another one.
00:46:13.980
And girls are like that sometimes, like, in the lobby.
00:46:16.780
Because if there's like five people, and there's two girls.
00:46:20.320
One of the girls will be trying to get the three other guys validation by shitting on the other
00:46:24.880
Yeah, it's almost like an immediate, like, self-preservation tactic, it seems like.
00:46:30.840
Like, they're trying to survive, but they don't realize they're being so shitty.
00:46:34.320
And they're proposing the, they're proponing the problem.
00:46:40.780
And the thing, what is so sad that they don't realize, is that even if they get that validation
00:46:45.660
from the other guys, long term, it's going to bite you in the ass.
00:46:50.860
I don't think that just because you got their validation for a little bit, no.
00:46:56.560
Once it's your turn to get shat on, they will be joining, too.
00:46:59.060
Yeah, I promise you, they will vote you off the island immediately.
00:47:02.840
As soon as they don't need you anymore, babe, you're gone.
00:47:07.100
That's another thing, if you're talking about, like, a red flag, when there's, this is like
00:47:13.020
the epitome of a pygmy, is someone who's like, all my friends are guys because girls
00:47:17.480
Or someone who says, I just don't get along with women.
00:47:21.820
Like, no friends that are women or identify as women.
00:47:26.280
At your big age, you don't have one bitch on this earth that likes you?
00:47:30.700
I don't think they realize that that's, like, a self-insult.
00:47:33.800
Like, not even one, not even your mother likes you?
00:47:41.840
Not one bitch on this planet is like, yeah, I like her.
00:47:47.340
But I say with that, too, with Pick Me Girls, I always tell them, like, this may seem like
00:47:53.600
it feels good to you now, like, doing this, like, shitting on me.
00:47:58.900
And life is too short to waste it trying to prove to men that they should respect you.
00:48:03.400
Like, proving, constantly having to seek their validation for anything is exhausting, and
00:48:12.440
I will say throughout all of my years being in a male-dominated field, the only thing that
00:48:17.940
has ever saved me is companionship from other women in this industry.
00:48:28.180
It's always the girls, the people who get where you're coming from, who truly, not just
00:48:33.740
sympathize, but empathize with you, and who will validate the shit that you're going through.
00:48:44.040
Community is what I think holds most of us together, especially in areas like that,
00:48:50.060
because those male-dominated industries are everywhere and all across the board.
00:48:53.860
So, like, when you find other people that have similar experiences to you and then you
00:48:58.020
kind of, like, band together, it makes it more bearable because it's hard, like, to do
00:49:06.220
So, when you don't have any support because you burned bridges with other women in your
00:49:12.800
And when you go through something that guys can't relate to, which will happen sooner or
00:49:20.100
You're not going to have anyone else to turn to.
00:49:25.400
Like, I just, I promise you, it's not worth it.
00:49:28.620
We were all a pick-me at one point in our lives.
00:49:33.820
Yeah, because we're all born into a patriarchy, so that's bound to happen.
00:49:37.620
But, like, it's not your fault if you have that.
00:49:40.660
Yeah, if you find yourself thinking, like, oh, I just can't be friends with girls, think
00:49:51.640
And really go out of your way to break that cycle.
00:50:00.700
Okay, this last comment says, what are you talking about?
00:50:03.640
That's how me and the boys communicate to one another?
00:50:13.740
I mean, I know that's how you signal each other.
00:50:18.960
Like, you know how dolphins, like, use sonar in the ocean?
00:50:23.840
Yeah, they're like, get back in the kitchen, you bitch.
00:50:37.380
Yeah, because isn't the whole point that you want women?
00:50:43.680
There is this logic that I cannot seem to wrap my head around, where guys are so mad at women for having cleavage while streaming.
00:51:06.760
The crazy shit is they will equate it to insane stuff.
00:51:10.560
If someone will, like, not actually, but if someone, like, kills someone else and then is banned off Twitch, they'll be like, yeah, but these women with cleavage.
00:51:26.240
I've had people compare me to, like, literal dictators that have committed genocide, and I was like, okay.
00:51:39.860
That's the most egregious thing you could ever say.
00:51:43.440
I had someone be like, I knew someone else that also led a movement and chose love, and it was Martin Luther King.
00:51:56.400
The fact that he was like, what about Martin Luther King?
00:52:02.580
The fact that you're comparing me, a silly goose, to a civil rights leader?
00:52:11.140
The fact that you're even trying to equate them, like, you are quite literally the stupidest person I've ever encountered, but that's a given.
00:52:29.440
Well, it's also, there are girls that, like, they're just being hot for the sake of being hot.
00:52:33.800
Like, let's all thank people like Meg Thee Stallion, our Lord and Savior, for allowing hot women to exist in the world.
00:52:40.760
But I do think, like, I've made videos in the past when dudes are like, what is this?
00:52:45.300
Like, getting, like, so enraged by seeing hot women.
00:52:48.180
And I always say, like, I can't believe that makes you upset.
00:52:52.600
I mean, I know why, but I don't think you know why, and that's the part that makes me laugh.
00:52:56.600
But I also think you're ruining it for the rest of us.
00:53:04.920
Yeah, literally, close your eyes, bitch, is what I want to say.
00:53:10.480
You don't want, you don't want women to be hot.
00:53:13.140
But then at the same time, if you find someone, you come across somebody who's not doing anything to anybody, but you don't think that they're hot, you feel the need to make videos about them, too.
00:53:26.480
It's like, if you're confident, they say you're conceited.
00:53:29.300
If you're not confident, they say you're too insecure.
00:53:35.680
I feel like I have never become more acquainted with misogyny until I was really on a male-dominated plot.
00:53:46.500
I'm like, having an ounce of confidence does not make you cocky.
00:53:51.320
Oh, I feel like I look cute today without you getting your panties and a bunch of...
00:54:10.620
Just because you're sad doesn't mean I need to be.
00:54:15.580
I literally had someone's like, humble yourself.
00:54:17.200
I'm like, well, I don't need to, but I would be if I were you because if I was ugly, I would
00:54:32.840
We need to, I don't know, scientists figure out cloning or whatever.
00:54:37.340
We need like three more of you and we need to get them to stream for freaking real.
00:54:42.240
I think too that, I think it's really cool though that people like yourself have built
00:54:49.220
these massive platforms that are like so prominent.
00:54:52.900
You're like, you're such a prominent figure in the gaming industry, which is incredible,
00:54:56.340
but I think it's so important that you're someone who's so like girl positive, babe,
00:55:06.780
I think that's so important and it's hard, bro.
00:55:09.880
It's hard being like someone of your level and stature in that industry.
00:55:15.980
And you know, even when you talk about these things, people are so quick to be like, oh,
00:55:20.740
you're just using like the misogyny card, the this card.
00:55:24.140
And right now, like currently we're talking about more so issues that women or fem presenting
00:55:30.360
But there's so much racism, bigotry, homophobia, transphobia, fatphobia on like in that industry
00:55:42.740
And what makes me even more upset is like, if you are, as you said, at any intersection
00:55:50.640
And I don't want that to be the case for people because gaming is fun.
00:55:53.280
Well, and it's like, it's one of those things where you're, even though it's hard, streamers
00:55:58.460
like yourself are still showing up for other people who want to stream as well.
00:56:03.540
And it's like, it's opening a door and holding it open so that other people can come through
00:56:12.060
And also, I think it's, it speaks to the level of like, you know, what you were saying
00:56:19.680
It speaks to your, your, your perseverance, your courage.
00:56:23.000
I'm going to make sure I'm planting roots, bitch.
00:56:25.820
That's literally the same thing with me as well.
00:56:28.060
It's, it's a similar testament to like, I'm never going to go anywhere simply because you
00:56:35.620
But also I think too, I talked about this in an interview recently when I was talking
00:56:39.580
about like, they asked me what's your biggest fear about your platform or whatever.
00:56:42.680
And I said, my only fear that I have is that if I were to ever start making other kinds
00:56:47.140
of content or branching into other forms of traditional media, my fear is that they would
00:56:50.880
feel like they can't do this without me, which is just not the case.
00:56:54.300
Like I've more than armed y'all with all the tools you need, bitch.
00:56:58.240
And if you ever need any more, I'm always here, but I always feel like you feel like
00:57:02.840
you can't do it without me, but you can like, you're so much stronger than you realize.
00:57:13.880
I just, as we said earlier, like you give us some tools.
00:57:26.240
You should give yourself the permission to use it and to access it.
00:57:30.900
You just need to tell yourself it's okay if I wield it.
00:57:33.580
If someone deserves it, you absolutely have every right to do that.
00:57:37.780
So I think that's something that you do for people in the gaming industry too.
00:57:49.320
There was a point in time where I wasn't like, it was getting exhausting.
00:57:56.620
Maybe like three years ago, like prior to COVID and Among Us actually brought so many people
00:58:03.000
into gaming and it was beautiful at that point.
00:58:05.000
In my opinion, that was like the peak of gaming.
00:58:06.740
It was probably like 50, 50 guys and girls, like such variety in the audience, which I
00:58:14.240
And at that point I was kind of like, wow, like there are so many female streamers, everything
00:58:19.700
And that's why now I'm actually, because that was like two years ago.
00:58:25.580
I think it has diversified again into like way better demographics on TikTok or YouTube.
00:58:31.140
Twitch has now kind of gone almost backwards into being again, a hub for like male dominated.
00:58:38.340
The people who are like really, really sticky with gaming, not so much casual gamers.
00:58:41.680
So now I'm actually like looking forward to diversifying.
00:58:53.420
Um, and being in a male dominated space, it's okay to push through if that's what you really
00:59:00.360
But I feel like I'm kind of just like evolving, growing out of it a little bit.
00:59:16.320
It's one of those things where you're just, you're just evolving.
00:59:19.140
You're in the next phase of your life, which is a beautiful thing.
00:59:21.620
That's, that's where I have like my highest female demo.
00:59:23.760
And like the fact that you can have such a large platform makes me so happy.
00:59:28.920
And that it's like majority women were like, yes.
00:59:33.860
If I think about my demographics on TikTok, I think it's like 96.
00:59:39.740
When we're talking about envy, that's what I'm envious of.
00:59:43.540
I know when I posted it once, someone was like, how do you do this?
00:59:46.500
Like I had, I had other female creators message me and be like, how do you get, how do you
00:59:57.340
Nothing will clean up that demo quite like that, babe.
01:00:01.160
And then all you have is all the good ones that are there.
01:00:06.980
My non-binary friends are obviously not included in my demographic.
01:00:16.080
It makes me upset also because I feel like minorities, they're so fun.
01:00:22.420
And how are you going to treat these people so terribly in our industry?
01:00:27.100
Like sometimes I feel like I get to the point where I cannot stand it anymore.
01:00:34.080
You know what I always tell people when they tell me they get very worked up about that
01:00:39.400
I always tell them it's because you're a good person.
01:00:41.940
It makes you a good person because you're empathetic and you're open and it upsets you to see injustice.
01:00:50.600
But I want to thank Pokemon for coming on to the wonderful series finale of season two.
01:01:01.840
Guys, you need to stream this a million billion times so that she gets a season three.
01:01:10.400
But I want to thank Pokemon for joining us today.
01:01:21.160
Honestly, never, ever, ever let shitty people take things away from you that you want to do.
01:01:38.580
Loser Johnny from Massachusetts, who's literally 13, stop you from doing what you want.
01:01:53.920
Honestly, as I said, I am really, like, I'm trying to transition to doing other things.
01:02:01.180
I want to learn how to TikTok more, so you got to teach me.
01:02:05.820
It's like a whole new world to me, but it's very, very fun.
01:02:10.040
So, I'd say just, like, check me out on YouTube or TikTok.
01:02:24.780
So, you don't have to worry about pronunciation.
01:02:35.800
Thank you all for tuning in to this episode of the Comment Section Show.
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01:02:42.820
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