SIDE EYE Ft. Golloria ｜ Episode 170
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In this episode of The Comment Section, host Drew Afuolo is joined by the legendary, the beautiful, the talented, the author, the entrepreneur, the social media influencer, the TikTok influencer and all-around badass, Gloria Gonzalez.
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Hey y'all, this is Drew Afuolo, and this episode of the comment section is brought to you by Amazon
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obsession wherever it goes. Hey everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the
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comment section show. Sorry, me, your fave. Everybody knows me. Who cares about me? On to the
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guests. Today we have the iconic, the legendary, the unbelievably beautiful and talented, Gloria.
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Gloria. What's up, my friends? Welcome to the show, Queen. Thank you, babe. How are you?
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I'm so good now that you're here. Even better now. Twin. Yeah, for real, you and me. I am so
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excited to have you. It's been a long time coming. They're waiting for you, but you're not a local
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girl. I'm not. You're a Texas sweetheart. I'm a Texas cowgirl. Where in Texas are you from? Austin.
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Period. Yeah. I went there last year for tour. Oh, you went on tour? Oh, yes, for my book. Okay. Last
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summer. I love that. It was really fun. She's a writer, guys. A published author. Yes. And you and I,
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actually, speaking of accomplishments, you and I were both in Forbes. Oh, please not talk to us
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disrespectfully, guys. Please. Talked was very nice. Talk quietly. Quietly. Lower your voice. Thank
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you. But I'm obsessed with you. I think you're fantastic and amazing. Been a fan for you for a
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long time, but for those who are not familiar with your lore, I'd love to know, how'd you get into
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makeup? Obviously, you're a glam girl. Yes. You do many other things, too. Yes. But I would love to
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know how you got into TikTok, how you started making videos, content, all of that. Guys, honestly,
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it kind of came out of nowhere. Like, I was in college, and the girls love to get ready. Like, that was just
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like, your friends like to get ready before you got outside. And I'm just like, oh, you guys are
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putting on full faces. I feel a bit left out. You know? Like, I feel a bit left out. And so I was
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exploring with makeup, like, definitely, like, my freshman year into, like, my sophomore year. And I
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was like, yeah, none of this is eating how it should. I look a little casket ready. I look a little
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orange. It's getting ash. It's getting ash, honey. You know? Like, it was just not a look. And it was a lot
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of, like, trial and error. I was like, yeah, this is, like, why should I even have to trial
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and error? Why doesn't it just work for me? You know? Especially now. Yeah. Exactly. I
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shouldn't have to make it work. And so I started making videos. I think, like, my first ever
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viral video was the Fenty matchstick. Or it might have been, like, the foundation, the soft.
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One of the foundations, girl. Rihanna be in that lab. But, you know, I made a video, and I
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was like, yeah, this is tea. It was, like, one of, like, my first big purchases, too, because
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I was broke. You know? Like, I was broke, and makeup is expensive. So, yeah, like, $50 a
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foundation. Guys, this cannot be the America we're in, you know? But I literally got it, and I was
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like, yeah, this is tea. This is tea. Let me make a video. And I just knew that, like, the feeling
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that I was feeling and experiencing, like, the other girls had to feel it, too. Yeah. The other girls had
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to feel it, too. The magic. I do not want to be 50. Contra creating. You and me both, yeah. You know,
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me, I will be in those books, guys. I know. Sometimes when I would do interviews in the
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beginning, especially, they'd be like, oh, like, what about the future? Like, do you see
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yourself doing this? I was like, I hope to God I'm not doing this in my 40s. No. Oh, God. If
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that's the case, is anyone listening to me still? No, for real. Like, I'm, don't worry. Don't worry.
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Well, that's so exciting. So, when it started, the ball started kind of rolling. Yes. When did you
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kind of feel like, oh, shit, I think this is, like, turning into something? It was probably, like,
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the, like, mid-junior year after that first semester, I was like, oh, these numbers are
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low-key up. Like, I'm literally in, I'm literally in, like, my calculus class, and I'm like, girl,
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these numbers are mapping. Right. And I got, like, my first partnership, I think, that second
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semester. Cool. One of those second semesters. And it was, it was, it was a chunk of change.
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And I was like, oh, no one can ever call me broke again. Like, you know, I was literally just,
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like, what am I gonna buy, guys? Like, it's definitely been a trip. It's definitely been
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a trip for sure. But blessings, you know? I didn't think that this would turn into a full-time
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career, honestly. Like, social media is, like, one of those things that just, like, once it goes,
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it goes. And you don't even realize it until it's happening. For real, yeah. I feel like, I'm sure you
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get that question a lot now, especially for young girls who are in school and content creating at the
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same time. I've told people, though, I'm like, don't quit your job and don't quit school off one video.
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Like, you gotta be doing it for a while and, like, establish. You really do. And it's definitely,
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like, because I was also working two full-time jobs, too. Damn, what were you doing? Girl,
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I used to work front desk at a hotel. I think a lot of people don't know that about me. But
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I was working. I had to work. You were, like, a front desk girl at just a regular, like, chain hotel?
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Yes, a regular hotel, chain hotel. Look at you. I was literally, I was there from 7 a.m. to 11 p.m.
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And at 11.30 when I got home, I would, that camera was out. You're crazy. Yeah, I was literally
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suffering. What was your other job? You were working at the hotel? Yeah, it was just two
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front desk hotel jobs. Oh, damn, you were just bouncing between them? Yeah, I was just bouncing
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between them. Like, girl, I had to get my money up somehow. Look at you. Yeah, for sure. Well,
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and that's a testament, too, to wanting to make this work also, which I've also told people. I've
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mentioned before that, like, nothing's gonna stop you. If you really want to do it, no matter how
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busy you are, you're gonna make something. Yeah, you're gonna make it shake for sure. But it's still
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a difficult task at that because it's a lot of work. It's definitely not as, like, like, body
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extraneous as, like, any other job that I've had. Yeah, it's social media is quite easy compared to
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most jobs. Yes. Yeah, literally, like, in a sense of, like, let's be honest, guys, like, it's not as
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terrible as a lot of people make it out to seem. It's a different type of stress, though. Yeah,
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exactly. That's what I've told people, too. I've said, I feel like it's absolutely 100% not
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the hardest job in the world ever in a million years, right? Ever, never. It just, the problems
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it gives you are things that I've said, no matter how many jobs you've had, it couldn't prepare you
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for the problems you get because they're so unique. Like, they're so specific to the job that that's the
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only difference is really the stress is, like you said, it's just different. It's just a different
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type of stress. You make a shake. You make a work. Yeah. And then when you have normal horrible
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jobs, you're like, I'd rather be doing this. Right. Hello. Yeah. Than my other horrible job.
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Exactly. Exactly. Were you always a glam girl? Were you always, like, a makeup girly? No, I was kind
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of weird growing up, you know? I was kind of into, like, you know, I was in those books. I also love
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Club Penguin. Oh, period. You know, like, I was just, I was a little weird little girl. We are
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familiar. We are big fans of Club Penguin over here. You know, like. As you could see from the
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silent, yes. Yes. Like. My producer literally went, yes, yes, yes, yes. Thank God you brought
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it up, yes. Honestly, like, I just was, I was just, and not Nintendo, I wasn't doing anything
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serious. I think, like, makeup and, like, just, like, growing into beauty was certainly something
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that I had to grow into because I also grew up dark skin and just, like, I was not the
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beauty standard and people were just mean. Whenever you don't look white, I'm so sorry.
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A big question mark on the end. You know, they will tear you up. Yeah. Okay. Really bad.
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So, I just already had, like, this weird, like, perception of beauty and, you know, it took
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me a long time to really step into, like, my identity and, like, know who I was and, like,
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learn who I was because I feel like it was something that other people always tried to control
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or, like, oh, you're not beautiful or you're too dark or you're this and you're that.
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And, baby, I'm a kid. Yeah. You know? Like, I'm a kid. Yeah. Like, let me live. Yeah.
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But it definitely was a learning curve. But I will say, like, in college is when I really
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was, like, okay, yeah, like, I kind of, like, full glam. Like, let me put it on, you know?
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So. I love that for you. I was a full glam girl, too, in college. I think that's when
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I really started trying to spread my wings. Yeah. But that was, like, 2013 to, like,
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2017 was when I was in college. And that was, like, the super cut contour, the whitest highlight.
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Right. No blush, no lip liner. Did you see, like, the waterline? Like, the white waterline?
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If I could get it in there, yes. Yes. Most of the time I had,
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like, a winged liner, but, like, the wing was so long it could touch in the damn near the
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end of my eyebrow. But it gave. Like, let's bring it back. Let's bring back the drama. And I had
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the biggest mink lash you could ever, ever see. That 25 millimeter from the beauty supply
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store. Yeah. I said, I'm spending $9 on a lash. For sure I am. Yes. Because I want
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them to touch my eyebrows. Yeah. Like, my way, love. Yeah. And I went to college in
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Hawaii. So, I was wearing fake lashes at the beach. I didn't give a fuck. And you
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know it's humid out there. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't give a fuck. I know a corner was
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lifted. Yeah. I said, I had duo on my person. Yeah. Duo eyelash glue. Yeah. Kept it in my
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bag at all times. Listen, that duo. Don't ever play about that duo eyelash glue, y'all. I
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love duo. Yeah. It smells bad, but it lasts. It lasts. There has to be some type of
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toxin in it. For sure. When did you start feeling like you were making an impact with
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you doing beauty especially? Because like you were saying too, not the beauty center
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by any stretch. It's always Eurocentric. Yeah. Oftentimes. Right. So, when did you start
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feeling like you were making an impact in that? Honestly, it wasn't really like any
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accolades or anything. It was like the DMs that I was getting from like a lot of like the
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dark-skinned girls and like the South Pseudo girls specifically. Like, you know, there is
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a lack of representation in like every industry. Like, not even just beauty. Like, I think on
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a larger scale, we don't see a lot of dark-skinned women in anything really. Right. And so, it
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was more so hearing that like, oh, like I didn't even think that this was possible because
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I haven't seen it, but I'm watching you do it. And that inspires me to shoot for the
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moon, you know? Yeah. Absolutely. That was, for me, just like, wow. Like, I actually cannot
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stop doing this because it's really 12-year-olds watching me and like looking up to me. And
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I wish that when I was young, I had that type of like figure to look up to and be like, you
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know what? I can do anything that I put my brain to. Yeah. Anything that my medulla reaches
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for, it reaches, you know? But it just wasn't a huge reality for me. So, to know that I was
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inspiring like larger than the masses, but like girls that like look like me, that was like, yeah,
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girl get to work. That stuff gets you emotional. Yeah. I bet. It makes me emotional too when I hear
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from my own girls, like girls from my own culture especially. It really touches me. It does because
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it's like, you know, we've had it hard, guys. We've had it so hard. And also just like experiencing
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life just not being the beauty standard is a tough one. Yeah, absolutely. It's a tough
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one for sure. And then we live in a very secular society too, so. Yeah. I'm praying for all
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of us. Okay. Well, and that's what I was going to ask. Like, was there ever a time that you
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felt represented, whether it was in social media or in media itself? Or did you become
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that representation? I feel like a little bit of both. Like, I think for South Sudan specifically,
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like a lot of South Sudanese women are models. Like, we see them on the runway, right? But I
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know that comes with its own demon, honestly. Like, the way that they view us and like masculine
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us. Like, they just, first of all, they be shaving off our hair. Like, they literally are
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just like, let's shave it. Let's shave it. Like, a lot of South Sudanese models just like, they just
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have to shave their hair to like walk the runway. And it's just like, side eye, you know? And even just
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like, the way they're portrayed in media. Like, the way that a lot of magazines and just
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like, a lot of publications will constantly like, darken. The exposure will be brought
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down to here to make us look darker. And it's like, you know, okay. Like, I guess that's
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strange. But, you know, yeah, it's just like a, it's like a really quick side eye. So it's
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definitely a demon in its own. But I just have noticed as I've grown in this industry
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for sure, like, there's a lot that has happened. There's a lot of representation that has happened
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on my part. And not only is it just like dark skinned women, but also just like African
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baddies. Like, you guys can do it, you know? Absolutely. Yeah. Well, that's what I loved
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about your content too, other than your reviews, because I just think your reviews are so funny
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and entertaining. But on top of that, you're making a real difference because there have been
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very serious established brands that have brought you in to help them understand better on how to
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better make colors for women with your skin tone. Like, what has that experience been like? I think
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that's fucking awesome. Yeah. No, I honestly, I love consulting. I think a lot of people don't have
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a lot of insight on what it actually like means to consult. And like on a larger scale, a lot of
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these companies are not testing on people with darker complexions. And that's why there's these like
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large discrepancies in these products and these new launches that they have because it's like,
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which is insane. Yeah, it's absolutely insane. They're not testing it on people that look like
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less. And, um, beyond that, there are no black people on the teams. Okay. From the cosmetic chemists
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to like, even just like the people that work in like the PR that are hiring the girls for like the
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campaigns or just, you know, even like the little beauty campaigns and like the ads and stuff that
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they're running. Like there are not a lot of black people in those rooms. Right. So with consulting,
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I think people are just like, okay, well, I don't, they just make the shade to begin with
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that. And I'm just like, well, they're not. So, you know, how do we change? Exactly. How do we do
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that tangible change? How do we make it work? Cause at the end of the day too, like not everyone is
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chronically online. Like if a dark skinned girl walks into Sephora and she has never seen my videos
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before and she doesn't know who I am and she goes to whoever she goes to and there's not a shade for
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her, but she tries to make it work. Like that's an experience, a lived in experience that so many
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people live in. Right. And so why not make sure that there is access to shades for people with
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dark complexions? Like not everyone's online, you know, like, yeah, as much as I would love to say
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like, oh my gosh, like guys, like just don't shop at the brands and don't do this. Don't do this.
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Like a bigger picture. Yeah. There are people that are going to be shopping at these brands
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regardless. And so, hello, if we can get rid of the trauma of swatching a shade and it being not
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the cutest, like let's do it. Like let's make it accessible. And that's what consulting is. It's like,
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you're going to have to continue to step out of comfort to make that tangible change.
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And I think a lot of people have a hard time with conceptualizing that it's, we're in a society
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where black people and dark skinned people are just not seen. We're not validated. We're not even,
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we're not even thought of most of the time. Right. And so it takes a lot to actually just like sit
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there and be like, you know what? It's really above me, but what can I do internally to make sure
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that this is getting shifted industry wide? Absolutely. And you got to make a shake. You
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just got to do it. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. It's, it's one of those things where it's like, yeah,
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we could, we could cut out ones and we should that are blatant. Right. But for other ones,
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like we deserve to be here. Like we should, there should be change. Exactly. Why can I only use three
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brands? Yeah, exactly. You know, like it's like forcing your way in the door. I, I, I feel so strongly
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about that. Like, and that's why I really fuck with your content, especially that kind of content,
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because I think it, it's, it's very brave to do stuff like that, especially with brands, because
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as influencers who, especially if you're in the beauty space, you work with brands and they all
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talk to each other and they all consult with each other. And it's very possible that if you piss one
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off, like they won't work with you and they'll tell others to not work with you, but you're not afraid
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of that because what matters more is the experience of every consumer ever who wants to try makeup.
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Like that matters. And I, that's why I, I've, I was like, I know you're with the shits because
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you're not afraid of shit like that. And I was like, she just like me for real. No, for real.
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Like y'all could blacklist me. It's okay. Like I also just like recognize too, that like, I,
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you know, baby, I grew up broke the $10,000 that y'all want for me. You can keep it. Like you can keep
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it. Honestly. I just, it is what it is. You're going to get blacklisted. You're going to, you know,
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be confronted with really uncomfortable conversations and you have to navigate through
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that in a lens. That's like, okay, how can I productively make tangible change and do it
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unapologetically? If you're not willing to do it unapologetically despite the backlash or despite
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what other people think, despite what these beauty brands are going to do to you, then nothing is
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going to happen. And we're going to continue to be in this cycle of like, okay, there aren't shades.
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Y'all are still launching this and doing that. No, these beauty brands, y'all can be a little
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afraid. Don't let me get that product. Okay. That's why I think you're so funny. Cause I was
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like, you're literally the me of makeup world. I got things to say, you know? And that's, and I,
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I agree with you wholeheartedly on the money part too, because I've said before, I'm like,
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if getting the money changes the way I would talk or act or feel about certain things, like
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naturally, I don't want it. I don't need it. I don't need it at all. If it's going to make
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me start acting different because you're all, this has been pissing me off. It's not like
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it's new. Right. And it's like, I've lived a life in this skin color. Do you think that
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I need this measly $5,000? Like please. And like, it's a lot of money. Like sometimes it's
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like, wow, like that's really a lot of money to like, just, just turn away. But at the end
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of the day, like what, what is the goal? Larger picture, you know, like, and aside from
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like the money to like morale, just general ethics. Yeah. Please. I want to sleep at
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night. Me too. Thank you. I was like, I believe in karma. Yes. I believe in it very sincerely.
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Yes. Yes. What's been the best experience working with a brand that you've had so far?
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Probably. I'm sure you'll have many more, you know, many, many more. I honestly have loved
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working with road. I think team road is just like, I love that. Yeah. They have made a lot
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of great changes. And also above that, they're just so eager to listen. Um, and aside from
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like the product in itself and like developing the products and like consulting on a lot of
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those products, it's also like their marketing, like road, we bring it up. Those in South Sudanese
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models. Like, I'm so sorry. We do not see that in a lot of beauty campaigns where it's true.
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It's like, we're seeing the darkest shade actually being represented and not just the product,
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but like the actual campaigns worldwide. Like, I think that is just like a really huge marker
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of like how, how much they actually want to be intentional and the inclusive products.
00:19:32.820
Yeah. They don't just talk about it. They are about it. Yeah. For real. And I, I really
00:19:36.780
just like, I've consulted with Tony with road. Me and Tony are always, let's get to work.
00:19:45.080
Yes. We're always cooking. Um, and to just know that they're willing to hear our insight
00:19:49.140
and like, sometimes I'll be like, Oh, this is not good. Like this is not good. And there
00:19:53.620
are other times that I'm just like, okay, this is amazing. But also they go as far as
00:19:57.200
making sure they are black cosmetic chemists. Like love that. Number one, we get to work
00:20:02.280
because the person that's in that lab looks like us too. And that makes like the biggest
00:20:06.440
difference. It matters. Yeah, it really does. Absolutely. Really does. Do you have any like dream
00:20:11.020
collaborations or consulting gigs in your mind? We can manifest here for you.
00:20:15.700
Um, honestly, or even a product of your own, I think product of my own for sure. I'm like
00:20:22.040
in that time of my career where I'm just like, you know, like, let's just explore some options.
00:20:26.180
I'm also young. So it's like, I got some time on my hands. I'm like really enjoying this
00:20:29.920
like time of life that I'm in currently. So I know a beauty brand will come eventually,
00:20:33.260
but I will be eating up for the dark skin girls. No tax. Okay. What about other goals
00:20:39.320
outside of beauty? Do you have any other goals or talents you want to pursue?
00:20:42.380
Um, honestly, I think I'm really chilling. I'm really chilling. I like to run. I've seen,
00:20:50.400
I was going to ask about you running because I see that you love to run. Yeah. I love that
00:20:54.260
about, you know, explain it to me. I think it might be a little bit in my genetics.
00:21:02.260
I'm so sorry, but I just think South Pseudo people just love to run. You know, like I think
00:21:07.800
also too, like I was also in this like really like pivotal part of my career and like this past
00:21:11.460
year where the hate just got so bad and I needed to like express that in a way that was like actually
00:21:17.840
like positive, like healthy. Yes, exactly. And one thing that anxiety and depression love the most
00:21:23.680
is sitting still and like being in stillness because you're not doing anything. You're just
00:21:27.780
soaking in those feelings. And it really took me being like, girl, get up, get up. And it started
00:21:33.480
off as walks. And then I was like, okay, these walks are cute. You know, let's try to run.
00:21:38.620
And when I started to run, I was like, okay, I feel so much better. Like I really do. Um,
00:21:44.160
and I just kind of stuck and I didn't realize I was good at it, but I think women are good at
00:21:49.040
everything that they put their mind to. So it is what it is too. Yeah. I'm always like, well,
00:21:52.840
she can probably conquer it. I'm sure she can. I know she can be talking about myself. Yes.
00:21:57.720
It's like, we can do anything. Um, and you have any running goals, a marathon. Yeah. I was going
00:22:03.320
to say, have you, have you done anything yet? Like a 5k half? I haven't done anything yet. I think
00:22:08.400
I'll probably start off with like a 10k. Like I'd be running like six miles every other day ish,
00:22:13.140
you know, I'd be like crazy, but that 20, what is it? 23.6. It's like 26. I think is a marathon.
00:22:18.960
26.2. Yeah. Something like that. Me not even knowing. Cause I'm never going to do it. No
00:22:23.780
matter how much should I talk almost, I would say quarterly on this show. I'm like, I should
00:22:28.360
run a marathon. I'm lying. I'm not telling the truth. I'll do a half, you know, like I can
00:22:33.800
probably do a half, but that 26 might see me in 20 things. I don't know. I feel like you'd
00:22:41.280
master it. You seem like someone who's a real like hyper fixation. Like this is my thing. I'm
00:22:45.980
going to conquer it and then move on to the next thing. Yeah, I am. I'm like,
00:22:48.960
definitely like once I, once I reach a certain goal, I'm just like, let's, let's
00:22:52.540
continue. Yeah. Yeah. You're, you're like, uh, mastering all trades and then being
00:22:57.100
like, all right, onto the next one. Onto the next. Like what's next. I have some fun
00:23:01.400
facts about you though. Okay. If you'd like, if we'd like to get into them, let's
00:23:04.600
get into them. Uh, it says you played volleyball in high school. Yes. What'd you
00:23:07.740
play in volleyball? I played outside hitter. Me too. Queen. Cause you're tall. I'm so
00:23:13.700
you're a tall girl. So tall. Did you like sports in high school? I did. I
00:23:18.940
feel like I've always had like an athletic bone. Um, and I think it was also
00:23:22.660
just like an outlet to like get it out. Same. Athleticism. Can I say not common
00:23:28.000
in Hollywood? It's not. It's not. And we can say it. It's fine. All of you are
00:23:31.800
artsy girls. I was an athlete too in high school. I was an athlete. Okay. I was on
00:23:37.260
varsity guys. I was talking to one of my friends and she was like, well, you would
00:23:44.160
know, you were a big, uh, like drama nerd in high school. Right. And I go, no, I
00:23:48.360
was not. Me personally. I was like, actually, no, not even me. She was really, what were
00:23:53.420
you in high school? What did you do in high school? And I was like, I was an
00:23:56.300
athlete. Yeah. And she was like, really? Cause she's known me for like years.
00:24:00.160
And then we're tall. Yeah. That's the first thing they throw us into is go play some
00:24:04.360
sports. They'd be recruiting me in the parking lot as soon as I got out. It was funny
00:24:08.120
because there was one, and this is like looking back, this feels progressive, um, which maybe
00:24:13.680
it is in an essence, but like we used to have spirit week, you know, spirit weeks in high
00:24:16.920
school. There was one in my high school when I was a junior that was gender switch day.
00:24:21.760
So we literally dressed as the opposite gender, which is, it feels progressive now. Cause a
00:24:27.120
lot of men came to school dressed as women. They were like, Oh, it was crazy. So I dressed
00:24:30.580
like a boy, obviously. So I dressed like basically like a teenage someone boy. That's what
00:24:36.120
I wore to school. When I tell you I had a football coach chase me down because he thought I was
00:24:40.760
a transfer to the school. Cause he forgot. And I said, well, that hurts my feelings.
00:24:45.240
That kind of sucks. But you know what? Like I also was like really overly masculinized
00:24:51.120
too. Like, yeah, absolutely. Like just being tall and black and just like not fitting into
00:24:59.860
that like beauty standard. Whatever they're considering in their head. Yeah. It was so insane.
00:25:05.620
Oh yeah. Even now, even now when I meet fans, sometimes I, I, I joke about it on the show
00:25:09.720
a lot. Sometimes when fans take pictures with me, they'll like hold my stomach. Like we're
00:25:13.540
going to prom. Hey, why would you do that? Don't do that to me.
00:25:17.620
Side eye. Don't you do that to me. Put it on my lower back. Like a normal, like I am a woman.
00:25:26.840
Please. Like, please. I know you feel it. Okay. I was like, I pull up my top. All right. Maybe
00:25:33.440
you need to see it. Yes. Have you been watching any, do you watch any shows? Do you, do you
00:25:38.480
like what I do? What have you been watching lately? Attack on Titan. Ooh. Okay. You're
00:25:43.340
an anime girl. Look at you. You know, I'm one of many talents guys. I love that. No, I
00:25:49.480
love that about you. That's wonderful. Is that, is that your favorite kind of TV show? Do you
00:25:53.580
have any other facts? Um, you know, I, I have like that, the anime version and my, you know,
00:25:58.400
personality. And then I have like, Oh, I can get down on some vampire diaries. I hold
00:26:03.240
on. Girl. No idea what you just started by bringing up vampire diaries. I can get down
00:26:06.000
on some vampire diaries. That show. I was balls deep in that show. It was so ahead of its
00:26:12.400
time. Nobody understands me when I talk about vampire diaries. No. I'm telling you, I get
00:26:17.740
it. I get it. The way they did our girl. What is her name? Our which girl? Bonnie.
00:26:23.580
Bonnie. Bonnie, you deserve better sister. They were trying to get rid of Bonnie. And
00:26:27.880
she said, no, ma'am, I'm staying here all nine fucking seasons. All nine. All nine. And
00:26:33.840
I feel like Klaus was misunderstood. I agree. I loved him. Yeah. His character arc. I was
00:26:38.380
like, I'm into this. Yes. I agree. And Elena. Yeah. Elena. Girl. She did a lot. She did
00:26:47.780
do a lot. Were you a team Stefan girl, team Damon? Oh, Damon Salvatore.
00:26:54.600
You're blushing like he's here. I'm sorry. I really like Damon. You really ate. But I
00:26:59.280
honestly really like Marcellus. Like. OKT. Loved him. Marcellus. Yeah. When they moved to
00:27:03.800
New Orleans. Yes. Hell yeah. Yes. Every, every guy on that show. I was like, period, period,
00:27:08.720
period, period. Period, period, period. To most of them. Right. Yeah. Most of them. Not all.
00:27:12.020
I will say. Well, I really. You know, like, let's not gas them too much. Right. A man
00:27:18.860
is a man. Right. I mean, true. True. I felt like when I was watching Vampire Diaries, I
00:27:23.700
was a Stefan girl. Personally. Stefan's cute. Yeah. He was cute. I just liked him better
00:27:28.560
than Damon. Damon really annoyed me in the beginning. Well, Damon acts like a child sometimes.
00:27:32.640
Right. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. But he was handsome. He was. Yeah. And they both were.
00:27:37.000
And I was like, you know, what's funny is like when I watch shows with like love triangles between
00:27:40.160
brothers. Like if you watch the summer, I turn pretty. I haven't watched that yet. It's good.
00:27:45.080
Okay. You should watch it. It's on Netflix. It's yeah. No, it's on prime. Amazon prime. It's
00:27:49.440
so cornball. Like it's so cornball, but it's like perfect. Yeah. Oh yeah. No, no. It's on that
00:27:55.660
show. Whenever there's girls deciding between brothers and they're kind of jumping between
00:28:00.260
and in my head, in my very logical brain, I'm like, just pick one. Yeah. After a while
00:28:06.960
though, when I really think about it, I'm all, I'd fuck around too. If that was me,
00:28:10.560
you know, Drew, listen, if that was me, listen, if that was me, I'd have to see.
00:28:19.180
You know, like Elena really irritated me, but like, I understand the lore. Me too. I guess
00:28:24.820
I get it, but it's just like, we could have, we could have moved with the program a little
00:28:29.100
faster. You had nine seasons. Yeah. We could have wrapped it up a little sooner. You know,
00:28:32.600
like wrap it up, please. I feel the same way about that, but I was like, I'd fuck around
00:28:38.380
too. Shit. I'm talking all that shit. But if that were me, I'd be like, all right, which
00:28:42.880
one am I doing this week? Okay. This next one, it says that you went viral for your darkest
00:28:48.780
shade TikTok series where you test a makeup brand's darkest shade of foundation on her
00:28:52.820
skin. Yes. Uh, so when did you start that trend initially? Do you remember? I don't know.
00:28:57.700
It's been years. It's been, I think like three years, I think like a year and a half
00:29:00.520
into my journey is when I was like, maybe even a year. Have you noticed it's like really
00:29:04.140
picked up now? Yeah. Every time I post a video was give it 30 minutes. You better hope it's
00:29:08.880
not you. Like you better hope honey, but don't check social. Yes. Don't. Uh, and then on
00:29:19.260
here, it says that you've been hired as a consultant for major beauty brands like road and Patrick
00:29:22.940
Ta. Yes. And we talked all about that. What do you like to do for fun? Like something not
00:29:28.660
work related or running like a weirdo. Let's see. Oh, was that a slug?
00:29:36.360
Because you like to run like a weirdo, like a weirdo. What do I like to do for fun? That's
00:29:41.580
honestly a great question. You have no hobbies. Me either. Hobbies. I have no hobbies. Sometimes
00:29:48.060
I think I do. And I'm like, that's not a hobby. That's work. Like sometimes I'll tell myself
00:29:52.220
I have hobbies, but it's work. Yeah. It's something that's making my career better. I'm like,
00:29:56.340
well, that's work. Yeah. I feel like volleyball. Like I'll, you know, pick up volleyball every
00:30:00.960
four months, you know, quarterly. Yeah. It's like a quarterly volleyball session, you know,
00:30:05.860
but that's about it. I like to read sometimes. What do you like to read? Let's see. What
00:30:11.160
am I reading right now? Have you read the new, um, Hunger Games book? I haven't. No. Okay.
00:30:14.980
I'm on chapter one. And it's kind of eating, you know? You said I'm one chapter in, but
00:30:21.880
so far no complaints. No complaints. Like, and we will hope that I can finish it in the
00:30:26.400
next month. Okay. Do you like to, are you like to read fiction or nonfiction? Um, I
00:30:31.700
think I'm a little bit of a nonfiction girl. Okay. For sure. Like nonfiction for sure.
00:30:36.180
But I also like, you know, I was reading, what was I reading? Like who, who was it? Who
00:30:42.040
was it? This was probably like a year and a half ago, guys. Anyways, I went to a
00:30:45.500
store and I saw my beautiful miss Viola Davis on a book. Yes. I had to grab it. Love
00:30:51.040
her. I had to grab it. And I was literally reading, reading, reading. And I was like,
00:30:54.380
it makes sense why you are the baddest bitch on a planet. Like, I'm just like, she is
00:31:01.320
really her, you know? So I have moments where I'm like, I'm in my little Viola Davis
00:31:05.460
books and then I have my like self-help books. Nice. But not every day is self-help.
00:31:12.040
Like it's okay to, to crash out sometimes. Yeah. Read something fun. Well, speaking
00:31:16.980
of women we love, we were just talking about Cowboy Carter and you already went, you went
00:31:20.320
to opening night. Yes? I did. How was it? It was great. It was great. And you know
00:31:24.260
what? Like I am so glad Beyonce said, you know what? You actually don't have to go to
00:31:30.200
math class today, Blue. You know, like I'm so glad because the way Blue came out and she
00:31:35.440
said, Oh, y'all dragged me to filth last year. And she gave hip. She gave hair flip. I said,
00:31:42.380
don't you guys ever play with Blue. Ever again. Ever again. I know choreography. She upped
00:31:47.420
it times a thousand since Renaissance. She ate so bad. That was honestly like, like, you
00:31:53.300
know, I love Beyonce, but I was really there for blue. Like blue ain't now. Yeah. Who's
00:31:59.980
like a dream person you would love to meet? Honestly, I have to say a shock gay. Ooh,
00:32:07.860
that's a great choice. Like after I saw his little interview, what was it? I don't know
00:32:13.140
what it was, but you guys are going to find it. It was, he was getting ready for something
00:32:16.780
in London. Right. I think it was like a GQ interview or something like that. Yeah. I said,
00:32:20.960
you are too icy and fly. I must meet you in this life. Like just one time. Yeah. Shoot
00:32:27.300
your shot with whoever you want on here. Yeah. You, whoever, do you add anyone else you want
00:32:31.440
to shoot your shot at? Let's lay it down. Lay down the foundation for you. I feel like
00:32:35.640
I met Rihanna and that was like, Ooh, that's fun. Yeah. That's, you know, I will never shut
00:32:40.360
up about that. Right. Okay. I feel the same way. That was that. I'm a happy girl. That's
00:32:45.100
it. A shock gay, please. Please. Just one time. Give me five minutes of your time.
00:32:50.780
Just five minutes. I got things to say. I'd love that. I would love to know too. Um,
00:33:00.580
if you have any, I have to pause. Wait, please. That rock on your finger. You're married.
00:33:07.700
No, I'm engaged. Oh my God. Drew. Why he iced you out like that? I know he did a good ass
00:33:14.900
job. Picked it all by himself. Can you believe it? I would be my husband. Yeah.
00:33:18.840
I literally am not shutting up. Look at that rock. You need to start off the show with,
00:33:25.980
Hey guys, welcome to. I know. Every time someone says, Oh my gosh. Or congratulations on your
00:33:30.520
engagement. I'm always like, thank you. I know he did a good ass job. I literally love
00:33:37.340
it for you. I'm sorry. I was blinded. I'm sorry. I know when I tell people about it, um, cause
00:33:43.200
sometimes people ask me if I knew what I wanted, that's why it looks so pretty. And I was like,
00:33:47.200
no, I didn't send him any pictures of any rings at all. He just built it by himself. Oh, he built it.
00:33:53.080
Went to a jeweler. Hello. He built a, I know that's right. I know that's right. Drew. And then he was
00:34:01.840
like, it's funny too. Cause the main stone is lab grown, a lab grown diamond. Okay. Period. But he was
00:34:06.660
like, well, lab grown. Cause it's better for the environment. I said, it's my fucking king right
00:34:10.600
there. Sustainability king. My sustainable king. Yes. Yes. I love it. I love this for you. Thank you
00:34:19.120
so much. Also, do you have an aura ring? You and me both queen, you know, not sponsored. I'm obsessed
00:34:24.740
with that motherfucker. Oh, me too. Because why am I stressed for half of the day? Okay. Like it's not
00:34:30.880
making sense. I know I wake up and check that thing. Like it's the stocks. I checked my aura ring up.
00:34:36.540
I'm like, what score did I get today? What's going on? Um, she sends me notifications a bit
00:34:42.560
too much. I don't want to stand up right now. Actually, you know, like what a girl
00:34:46.680
rest. They're like, stretch your legs a little bit. Mind your business queen. I know mine sent
00:34:51.160
me an alert this morning that said your period might start today. I said, Oh girl, you're
00:34:55.840
in my business too much. But you know what? I think that's like the best feature. I do
00:34:59.860
love it. It'll tell you when you're in your luteal phase and like flick your face.
00:35:03.120
Yeah. That's why I'm a brat right now. Oh, that's why I'm in such a bad mood. It's
00:35:09.420
making sense. I was telling my therapist that cause I told her I got the aura ring
00:35:12.780
to track my stress from work and sleep to make sure I take better care of myself and
00:35:17.920
my period. And I was telling her, I was like, yeah, I'm like having a track, but
00:35:21.940
sometimes I feel like it tells me too many things. Right. I was like, okay. Act like you
00:35:27.780
know me. Right. I don't care about no Ram. All I know is I try. Like, please. Laura.
00:35:37.940
Do you have any big goals for yourself? Like any dream things you want to call you've
00:35:42.160
accomplished so much in such a short amount of time, which is incredible. You know us.
00:35:47.240
It was really like four 30 and a 30 was one of them. First of all, 23 first South
00:35:52.620
pseudo babe on that list. That's for me. I was like, yeah, I did the thing. And then
00:35:57.400
honestly, just like a really successful makeup brand in the future. It might be
00:36:00.380
when I'm 30. It might be when I'm 40. Don't ask too many questions. No, but yeah, I think
00:36:06.180
that's really it. And also just like, guys, when I pop off the face of this
00:36:09.680
internet, I don't want to hear nothing. Like I don't want to hear nothing. I believe
00:36:14.040
that about you though. Oh, I will. I love that about you though. You're just like me.
00:36:17.620
It's like, this isn't, nothing's holding me here. Like other than just desire. Right.
00:36:22.200
Yeah. The girls, we've had enough. When the want, when the want goes away. Yeah,
00:36:27.840
for sure. Cause I just feel like I want to live a life not being constantly overly
00:36:32.600
perceived at one point in my life. Like I'm going to delete the socials and I'm
00:36:36.780
going to go live in a bungalow. I love that. That's so true. I love that about you. And
00:36:42.580
that's the beautiful thing. I honestly think too, that's a big reason why, uh, the
00:36:47.220
universe rewards people like you, other than you just being very important and
00:36:51.040
talented. I think it's too, it's like you, it's not making who you are. It's just
00:36:56.120
something that happened to you. And I think that's a beautiful thing. It's a
00:36:58.940
beautiful thing. And I'm like, I'm so grateful, but there comes a point.
00:37:03.060
There comes a point. It's a point. Wrap it up. Let's wrap it up. Yeah. The hate is
00:37:09.100
crazy. And that's something I want to commend you on too. Cause it is fucking hard,
00:37:12.380
especially dealing with hate just in general online is a lot, but dealing with hate as a
00:37:16.780
marginalized person and also as someone who is brave and speaks their mind like
00:37:21.720
you do and is also like unafraid to be themselves and share their very honest
00:37:27.580
opinions and still show up every day. It's fucking hard being the first. It's
00:37:31.440
really hard. It is. It is. So I commend you. I will take a nap. So guys, don't worry.
00:37:37.860
And I commend you because they be, but you know what? You be dragging up. You be on their
00:37:44.720
ass. And I love it because I just don't understand why people think that they can
00:37:49.500
talk to influencers anyhow and not expect us to like, however they want. Am I not
00:37:54.560
human? Is this blood that is pumping through my body? Not the same blood pumping
00:37:58.780
through yours. Right. Exactly. Like it just, it doesn't make any sense. And then it's
00:38:02.500
just like, I feel like too, cause I would never go out of my way to leave an insane
00:38:06.660
hate comment. Like I would never in my life do that. Like, why are you calling me a
00:38:12.600
gorilla? It's not making sense. It's not making sense. Truly. Like what's the thought
00:38:18.460
process? Like I, and it's truly like, I know the feeling you're talking about, which is
00:38:22.140
like, I can't even relate to that level of loser. I can't relate. I never in my life
00:38:27.360
have I had that desire. Exactly. I mean, I've never thought mean things. No, but I've never
00:38:33.220
keep it to yourself. Right. Bring back secrets. Hello. Thoughts. And critical
00:38:39.100
thinking. Please. Like it is just getting to the point too, where it's also just
00:38:44.400
like, you have millions of followers. Like there's only so much that you can like
00:38:47.020
control. But one thing about me, I will not post for two weeks. Like I will take a
00:38:51.860
month off. Right. Because I don't care. And this isn't what you signed up for. Like
00:38:56.680
it's like they, when it gets twisted and warped into something it's not supposed to
00:39:00.480
be or wasn't the intention of your content in the first place. It's like, what are
00:39:04.100
we doing? Exactly. I'm not, I'm not here for this earth to perform. Girl, if I don't
00:39:09.860
want to be on the internet for three weeks, I will not be on the internet for three
00:39:11.940
weeks. Everyone's always like, Oh, like I haven't seen you on, you know, the FYP
00:39:15.780
page in such a long time. And I'm like, yeah, cause I don't, I don't want to be
00:39:19.100
on it. Like, you know what I wanted to do? I wanted to go on a walk for three weeks
00:39:22.860
and mind my business. And I do that. And I think that's honestly like creators could
00:39:25.800
honestly do a lot more of that is like, you don't have to explain why you want to
00:39:28.840
take a break. Just get off the internet. If you want to get off the internet.
00:39:31.380
Absolutely. And stick to it too. It's like, it's imperative. And I feel like with you
00:39:36.020
doing that, I think that's a beautiful thing, especially since you had the year
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that you had last year, you're still prioritizing you. Yep. That's a beautiful
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thing. You might think that's wonderful. Hold on to it forever. Keep doing that.
00:39:49.000
Thank you. And I'm so fucking happy that you came to hang out with us today. But before
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we kind of sign off, I'd love to know if you have any advice for any girls who are
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looking into the beauty space or maybe don't feel represented like we talked about and feel
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discouraged trying to find new things. Do you have any advice for them?
00:40:07.920
Honestly, I feel like my number one piece of advice is talk your shit. Like at the end of
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the day, like these are your lived in experiences and it's not for anybody else to police. Right.
00:40:17.140
And once you have like solidified that your validation is validation that you
00:40:21.380
validify in yourself, you're the one that says, oh, okay, this is true to me. This
00:40:26.840
happened to me. I'm feeling this way and I can feel this way. No one can tell you
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anything. Like you need to continue to exist unapologetically for yourself. Talk your
00:40:37.000
shit. It's okay to like not always bow down to the status quo.
00:40:41.540
For real. Absolutely. Let's, let's shake it up a little bit.
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Hey, what's the day I say? Shake it up. Please. Like, you know, so that's all I have for the
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girls. Like exist unapologetically for your black ass selves. I love that period. Just
00:40:57.020
move. You know, it's okay to be an airhead too. I think sometimes, sometimes it's not
00:41:02.080
every day have a think piece. So be an airhead too. Whenever you want to sprinkle it in
00:41:06.480
there. Okay. We need that. I need a break. Yes. Let me be stupid for one second.
00:41:13.140
One day and allow yourself to make mistakes. Like influencers also too. Like, I think we
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get held to like an insane standard sometimes. I agree. Yeah. But it's like a lot of these
00:41:22.900
influencers that are doing it, like content creators, like they really are 22. They really
00:41:26.120
are 23. They really are 21. They really are still in high school and college. Like you're
00:41:30.420
learning, you're going to make mistakes and give yourself the grace to do that. And if people
00:41:34.300
are not there to grow with you, well, well, well. Like, well, good luck finding someone
00:41:41.380
who fucking hasn't made a mistake. I mean, good luck with that. Yeah. Exactly. Wishing
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you all the best on that journey. Yeah. And then my last advice question for you is, do
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you have any advice for brands who you think like, if they would like to and should want
00:41:55.080
to do better? How can they do better? Get in that lab. That's where it starts. That's
00:42:03.200
where it should end. Get in that lab. Go speak to a non-white person. You know, like just for
00:42:09.020
one day, let's step out of our own shoe and go explore. Okay. And you know, once we really
00:42:18.880
sit down as a whole and say, I can do better, things change. Yeah. I can do better and be
00:42:27.500
willing to do better. I think brands are just like really, you know, we live in a capitalist
00:42:32.280
society. Right. I know what you mean. You want to make your money. I get it. You want
00:42:36.100
to make your money. But at the end of the day, all I have to say is don't let me catch
00:42:41.160
you. Okay. And that's fine. Just don't let me get your product. Yes. That's it. And don't
00:42:47.580
send it to me either. I don't want it. Okay. Please. I love that. I fucking love
00:42:53.260
you. I love you too. I think you're amazing. You too, babe. And I really do want to give
00:42:57.120
you your flowers for being so incredible. And I, and I know too, um, that the internet
00:43:01.700
can be so perverse and fucking evil, especially to black women. So I think you are so essential
00:43:07.600
to the like integrity of the internet. I really mean that it's like people like you really are
00:43:12.240
what shift social media and like shift cultural impact. And I think it's imperative that
00:43:17.520
people like you have platforms. So I'm so glad that you do. Thank you. And you too.
00:43:20.660
And I hope you continue to eat the girls up one thing piece at a time. I will. I'll make
00:43:25.120
all the thing pieces for you, please. You know, and you know, these men need to mind your
00:43:32.940
business girl. Always say that. Let me know when they start, when they start, I'll be out
00:43:37.540
of a job. Then I can retire. Thank you. Yeah. They can retire me by doing that.
00:43:45.140
Come on. Well, thank you so much for coming on the show. I fucking love you. You're the best. Thank
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you all so much for tuning in before we go though. Where can everybody find you?
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On socials, Instagram, YouTube, TikTok. It's just at Gloria. It's just my name. Period.
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And it's Gloria, by the way. Thank you. Because you guys, some of you guys just be butchering.
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It's really, it's so simple, you know, but find me there. Follow me or don't, but live your best
00:44:13.260
life. So period. Love that. And thank you all so much for joining us on this episode of the comment
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section. Don't forget new episodes drop every Wednesday. You can stream the audio on all streaming
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platforms, but the video is for free and exclusively on our favorite platform, Spotify. Thank you so
00:44:27.060
much to my amazing guest, Gloria. Make sure you follow her on literally everything. And thank you
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all so much for joining. I'll see you next week. Bye.