The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - WHY WOULD WE STOP GAMING？ Ft. Valkyrae

00:00:00.000 says you have one singular naturally red hair on your head how are you even finding these

00:00:06.160 manda that one's weird how did you find that that is i'm like this is so hilarious me me

00:00:14.420 pointing that finger because i'm like she's making me look weird but that was her who found that

00:00:18.340 i did say

00:00:19.680 hey everyone and welcome back to another episode of the comment section show starring me your fave

00:00:30.480 everybody knows me who cares about me on to the guests today we have the iconic the legendary

00:00:35.200 the unbelievably talented valkyrae welcome to the show ray oh i'm so excited i've okay admittedly

00:00:44.800 i've been a fan of you for so long oh my god thank god we started rolling thank god when i got the

00:00:50.780 invite to be on your pod i was like no way so this is our first time meeting yes it is but i've been

00:00:56.040 definitely following you for a very long time and you've made me laugh a lot oh period uh yeah no i

00:01:01.820 love that for us i'm a huge fan of you as well no way yeah of course girl you know do you want to hear

00:01:06.780 something absolutely insane uh when i first started like growing on tiktok there was a guy at the gym

00:01:13.640 my fiance was training at and he was like hey are you like into gaming at all mind you like i started

00:01:20.240 growing like pretty quickly on tiktok so like my my man was still working full time at the gym and he

00:01:24.740 was like um not really why and he goes i because he was a huge fan of you and pokey really and he was

00:01:31.800 like i've heard them talk about her and they'd say like your girlfriend or because at the time we were

00:01:35.860 just boyfriend and girlfriend and he was like yeah they're like the biggest streamers in the world

00:01:40.460 and i was familiar with your names obviously because y'all are so popular but i was like okay

00:01:45.020 t i didn't know that because he said did you know that when he came home i go no i didn't know that

00:01:49.080 that sounds nice wow so i went obviously i had to go and look at y'all and i was like period period

00:01:53.200 period follow back follow back follow back oh my gosh that's crazy to hear i didn't even know you

00:01:57.980 do i exist and it was a man oh yeah oh derogatory get me out of the gaming space yeah for real he

00:02:05.300 was like huge fans of y'all so they told they honestly told me the men told me first that y'all

00:02:10.640 were fans which i was honored wow two legends in the game yeah no this is like a crazy full circle

00:02:17.020 moment for me it is like i've i think that's one of the things that i've struggled to kind of do well

00:02:22.240 i've gotten better over time but it's like kind trying to like make friends outside of the gaming

00:02:26.860 space because i do feel like it's such a bubble i get it and so because a lot of my main friends i

00:02:32.000 met through tiktok too so i really yeah i think it's just natural you kind of commiserate same

00:02:36.700 areas go to the same events yeah i think that's natural yeah exactly it just happens have you

00:02:41.300 thought about streaming like do you play any games i love video games i do love to play i have been

00:02:46.300 asked to stream many times i just don't know because that's like my one thing that i do like by myself

00:02:52.260 like that's like not work it's like downtime right so i love i love low like i would say

00:02:58.780 third person like storyline games so i just got the new ghost of yote like because i heard it was

00:03:05.140 really good i beat ghost of tsushima a long time ago i sobbed at the ending like it was my uncle

00:03:10.380 that was dying spoiler alert if you haven't finished oh no that game but i love that game i've told a lot

00:03:15.340 of people to play it so i bought the new one i like the assassin's creed games what about you

00:03:19.620 what do you stream normally um or what's your favorite thing to stream i should say so right

00:03:25.060 now it's like spooky season and there's been a few like scary games that have come out and so i

00:03:30.060 pretty i also my favorite genre is like those um story games yeah and so i literally just beat silent

00:03:37.900 hill f yesterday oh okay game horrifying like psychological thriller it's terrifying right um i'm

00:03:45.460 screaming the whole time and it's just uh it's just it's fun to play like i don't know it's just

00:03:50.560 i mean i've been playing games my whole life and i've been streaming for 10 and a half years now it's

00:03:55.100 gonna be 11 years which is crazy because you look 15 so how does that work okay yeah it's just i just

00:03:59.520 want to preface this i'm 33 which is crazy because you would think i wouldn't be gaming still right

00:04:05.100 because like i feel like also are you kidding at the level y'all do it hell yeah i know like i'm gonna do

00:04:10.280 it forever obviously like it's been a hobby for my whole life why would i stop right like i think

00:04:14.860 that's something that people don't realize is that i grew up with gaming like my generation of people

00:04:20.080 had gaming and consoles growing up so it's like why would we just stop even though it's perceived as

00:04:25.700 like a kid thing right yeah i think it's changing like i think people are well i think people like

00:04:29.480 you have changed that honestly i think that makes people want to play they're like actually i actually

00:04:33.620 i can play games and have fun yeah it's okay there's no age on that that's all right i think the

00:04:38.280 thing the way i look at it is like gaming is just another form of entertainment just like watching

00:04:43.040 tv like for me it's like interactive television like yeah totally it's like watching a story like

00:04:48.420 there's a game called the last of us like i'm sure you watched it have you seen the show yes yes yes

00:04:52.580 that's you know based off a game yeah and when you play the game it's like you get to see this whole

00:04:58.020 dramatic story fall i know happen i get to play it at the same time so you're braver than me i can't play

00:05:04.720 the spooky ones i could never off stream but i think because i'm streaming it feels like i'm not

00:05:09.800 alone oh that's kind of nice you know there's like people talking in the chat and get to hang out we

00:05:14.240 get to talk about it and stuff so right yeah well that was gonna be my next question actually was

00:05:18.100 why like what made you want to start streaming oh yes okay what got you into it initially um so

00:05:23.940 eons ago many many many years um i grew up in a very broken household my dad was a

00:05:29.400 mega alcoholic um and he would come home drunk like every night and fight with my mom about like

00:05:34.680 money and stuff and so my mom she would lock my sister and i in my room and they would just watch

00:05:40.160 me play games and so the reason why i got into games in the first place was because i was at a

00:05:44.360 babysitter's house and like her daughter had this console and so i we just started playing and i got

00:05:50.740 addicted it was just like an escape yeah like at the end of the day i do feel like video games are

00:05:55.040 an escape for a lot of people um as all like creative outlets are yeah so um yeah i just um

00:06:02.440 i've been gaming my whole life and then i got a job at game stop and then i made this instagram account

00:06:07.440 and i noticed that when i would post gaming stuff they would get like more likes and stuff right and

00:06:12.680 so i you're just doing it for the love of the game like you were just like yeah i was so lonely and i

00:06:17.780 was also in a very toxic relationship where it was one of those ones where this is an example that i

00:06:23.100 always share but um i remember hitting uh 15 000 followers oh no 3 000 followers on my instagram

00:06:30.660 account and showing my boyfriend a time and i was like look isn't this crazy like i feel like

00:06:34.580 uh i could make something out of this yeah i could like people like this stuff yeah totally and he

00:06:39.720 straight up told me he was like this is embarrassing like don't do this like i i hate it like he was he

00:06:46.040 hated it hater just it was well he sounds like a fucking hater so that makes sense oh yeah no he

00:06:51.820 was jealous asshole oh my god sorry literally a lot of my exes oh god it's embarrassing it's so

00:06:58.260 embarrassing well yeah because you're stunning gorgeous smart and also really good at video

00:07:01.760 games and make a lot of money off of it so yeah yeah for an insecure man that's kind of kryptonite

00:07:06.440 you know what i mean oh yeah man it's it's crazy looking back because i wish i could go back and

00:07:11.420 shake my old self and be like get out of this sooner because like mind you the same guy like

00:07:16.320 cheated on me and like i got back with him it's crazy times younger ray was going through it um but

00:07:22.240 yeah i just uh i liked it a lot because i didn't really have uh close friends and so i felt like i

00:07:28.400 was making friends in the gaming community and so i got really addicted to it and then when it hit

00:07:32.680 about 15 000 followers i heard about twitch and streaming and that was 10 and a half years ago

00:07:37.980 and that's hard as fuck 10 years ago to get 15k 10 years ago on instagram it's hard as hell oh it

00:07:44.400 was back then yeah when were you on instagram because remember people do like the shout out

00:07:49.440 for shout out like collages yeah yeah hell yeah it was hilarious no i know i think that i think i got

00:07:55.360 instagram when i was in like ninth grade was like the first time i was like 2009 2010 so i was on there

00:08:02.220 but i was very like i'm far and few in between i wasn't really posting much yeah it was college yeah

00:08:07.560 very casual and then you start realizing like oh is this like a business thing i know hell yeah is

00:08:12.840 this like helping my business and now it's like admittedly i don't post as much as i should as as

00:08:17.980 much as i have i used to post every three days every three days i would just like post like a gaming

00:08:23.000 clip or like a selfie or something and um i mean i feel like i'm not as much like in tune with social

00:08:29.660 media especially like nowadays it's like a good thing you open up twitter and then you're like

00:08:33.400 closing twitter oh yeah i deleted my twitter a long time i i am this close i i deleted mine well

00:08:39.360 i deleted mine like well over a year ago i would say i think i went out on top to be honest i i used

00:08:44.940 to only go on there because because it is so rancid and vile now you could say anything you could say

00:08:51.020 anything which is true you could but that means i could be my absolute meanest on that app so like

00:08:56.300 when i was fucking up men or women who hate me because they want the attention of men i could go on

00:09:01.140 twitter and i could really fuck them up there like so that's why sometimes you could say what

00:09:05.160 you want right like what i could without these ties on me tying me down on yeah yeah once i got those

00:09:11.040 blue check marks they really stopped letting me say anything i wanted no way yeah like on tiktok

00:09:15.640 instagram too i've lost my instagram three times because of like reports and shit like that there

00:09:21.380 no way yeah three times which is funny because my tiktok i've lost four times my instagram i've lost

00:09:28.240 three but my instagram the first time i got it back was because there was a girl i'd been posting

00:09:33.480 on tiktok obviously it was after i blew up on tiktok men were mass reporting me on all apps and

00:09:38.960 this is before i had any check marks but then uh this girl i had been posting like yeah my instagram's

00:09:44.200 down so like if you guys are trying to find me on there that's why this girl emailed me from her

00:09:48.660 personal email and she was like hey girl like just want to let you know i work at instagram i know you

00:09:53.700 did you need help i could probably help you on the off chance it was real i was like i'm gonna

00:09:57.780 take this tip for real because i was like who knows you might as well yeah yeah so that i reached

00:10:03.100 back out to her and then she went in because she said she had a new job lined up and she was leaving

00:10:07.820 in three days so she literally got my account back verified me gave it back to me then quit and i was

00:10:13.840 like period like one thing about one thing about women they're gonna do it for you you know what i mean

00:10:18.760 wait that's a real one right we have female fans what are you saying that's getting you

00:10:23.700 reported where it's actually deleting your account i'm just being hilarious so like they mass report

00:10:29.160 me and say i'm saying like they you know so they kind of have to like auto like ban you yeah so

00:10:34.720 they have to like check it yes so then that's why it was taking forever because there's only like

00:10:39.580 nine people that work at meta so like they have to go through all these requests so it was like

00:10:43.780 taking forever to get it back but that's why it's just like they have to they have to like pause you

00:10:48.140 for a second and then and then check it after i see yeah but i know you you're not a stranger at

00:10:54.060 all to men being awful on the internet i'm sure especially being on twitch as long as you have girl

00:10:58.060 that's crazy it's been a long ride with yeah on the gaming side of things because obviously it's

00:11:04.500 male dominated right right i mean i think a lot of people don't realize that there are a lot of women

00:11:08.780 that do game right it's not just men but i do obviously there's a lot of very vocal men

00:11:15.060 about how they feel about like a girl being in their space that they're claiming you know like

00:11:20.700 this is supposed to be a guy i think get in the kitchen woman i'm like playing make-believe

00:11:24.140 women do that all the time what the fuck are you talking about yeah we do that all the time we

00:11:28.440 imagine we have fan fiction what are you talking about this is not gendered dummy idiot yeah

00:11:33.740 yeah so that's how it kind of started when you first when did you start noticing you started

00:11:38.100 getting like hate like that um i mean on twitch yeah on twitch um man i i think there was the

00:11:46.200 first game where i started playing where i noticed like a rise in viewership like i think um one of

00:11:51.640 them being called until dawn i remember i had like 600 viewers and it was it was a lot for me i was like

00:11:57.620 oh this is kind of crazy like where are all these people coming from and um i'm like getting dms like

00:12:03.620 that was when my dms were open yeah oh i shut that shit down years ago yeah you guys don't you

00:12:09.260 lost the privilege lost the right you just start getting death threats and like stalkers like just

00:12:14.180 people being like also thinking that they have like they that you're talking to them through the

00:12:19.140 screen like you have a relationship with them like some people really yeah pokey told me a little bit

00:12:23.760 about that too yeah there's just a lot of like parasocial weirdos social mentally ill people that think

00:12:30.580 that um you know they have something with you it's scary yeah you know like um it just takes like one

00:12:37.000 person to just think that oh you know ray is inviting me to her place i'm gonna go over there

00:12:42.080 and i've had someone like literally at the airport and was live tweeting themselves being like if ray goes

00:12:49.260 to coachella like this is gonna piss me off she's supposed to pick me up at the airport videotaping

00:12:54.080 himself saying this he's saying you were supposed to pick i was supposed to pick him up at the airport

00:12:58.100 and that's why he flew in and he's like she knows i hate when she's late to pick me up from the airport

00:13:04.520 that's scary as fuck i mean i guess it comes with the territory i think um there's just this way about

00:13:11.300 streaming where it's so unfiltered unedited it's live where uh people you know they they can watch

00:13:17.820 you every day 24 7 and like feel like they know you yeah like it's like i understand why people get

00:13:24.200 so parasocial with streamers because it's just yeah that is actually such a good point though like

00:13:28.700 because parasocial relationships exist obviously across all platforms but on twitch specifically

00:13:32.880 because it's live yes it's like different so they're not edited yeah so they're seeing you in

00:13:37.420 real time yes they see you like you'll be eating your lunch yeah you know or taking a break i'll be

00:13:42.700 like okay i'm gonna go use the restroom i'll be right back kind of thing it's like i can't cut out

00:13:47.080 that time right in the restroom like it's just a chair for five minutes you know scary yeah scary

00:13:53.220 as hell well when you did start growing when did you start getting excited because you started making

00:13:56.940 friends and stuff like that like a lot of the real life friends you have now uh i uh i played a lot of

00:14:01.580 solo games for a really long time and then there is this game called fortnite which i'm sure you've

00:14:05.020 heard of um and that's when i started playing with other people in the space that played so it was

00:14:10.540 like a collaborative thing and i realized like wow collaboration is really good yeah like people love

00:14:15.900 seeing their favorite creator play with another creator that they like totally the dynamic and

00:14:20.600 um i just like it's like oh wait multiplayer games are really fun and then i'm sure you've heard of

00:14:26.340 the whole among us oh during covid yeah that was an anomaly that just shouldn't have happened but it

00:14:32.080 did but that was huge for streamers because um you get like 10 streamers in one lobby and you're all

00:14:40.320 playing this mystery game that's easy to watch for people that don't play games yeah like it's a social

00:14:45.820 deduction game like you try to find the murderer right yeah and people love crime videos so it's

00:14:50.980 just like really entertaining for people to watch and then mutually beneficial for all of you right

00:14:56.060 it was just like everyone was just doing so well after that point so yeah i don't know it just like

00:15:01.960 i just i don't know i just love playing all the games i think that's i think that's really cool i

00:15:06.820 was gonna ask too if you've noticed because obviously in the last like i would say what five

00:15:11.200 five ish years like since covid since we came out of pandemic all of that it's been five years right

00:15:16.400 right it's insane but also thinking about how like streaming has really had a huge like uptick in it

00:15:22.640 because people have i'm sure during the pandemic and stuff being able to stream from home is like

00:15:27.060 very helpful yeah and i think people saw value in it then that they maybe didn't see before streaming

00:15:31.920 is on the decoy really yeah i just feel like young men especially really love or want to do twitch or

00:15:39.100 streaming probably because of people people like y'all have been in there for so long kaisen yeah

00:15:43.480 yeah i feel like um there's just a lot of what's really popular right now is irl streaming which is

00:15:49.660 like in real life uh just walking around doing things yeah like say like you're in japan and you're

00:15:54.280 like live on your phone okay and you just like walk around so a lot of that like it used to be gaming

00:15:59.060 like gaming only yeah but now it's what people like really like watching because when uh irl streams

00:16:04.900 and so i i do think that a lot of kids are seeing that and they're really like oh it'd be so fun to

00:16:09.620 like irl stream and like go out and do all that like the phase boys for example right and because

00:16:14.440 they do have a lot younger audience yeah which is it's really interesting to see like how streaming

00:16:19.140 has changed over time because like my audience 50 of my audience is ages 25 to 35 yeah so i've seen

00:16:26.160 them isn't it crazy yeah yeah i have a really uh larger an older age demographic too i hope you don't

00:16:31.320 mind me asking but how old are you i'm 30 i just turned i just turned 30. happy birthday thank you

00:16:36.980 oh my god but you were giving like 20 25 for me like you're you're like a baby to me yeah that's

00:16:43.440 what a lot of people think about me too honestly 25 was like the mark when i said i turned 30 a lot

00:16:47.780 of people were like what the fuck yeah i said oh not too much on me relax and take that tone down

00:16:54.160 for me a little bit but i honestly i'm so fired up to be 30. i couldn't wait i'm telling you

00:17:00.060 i do feel like 20s is like the years of suffering pain getting cheated on getting lied to and

00:17:08.140 deceived by everybody and trying to figure out like struggling yeah yeah just trying to figure

00:17:12.340 out your way in life and then i feel like 30s sure you may still be suffering in your 30s

00:17:17.120 hopefully not but um i do feel like 30s is like you know what you want yeah you know what you like

00:17:22.960 you know who to surround yourself with totally that's so tea when i i remember the last like job

00:17:28.500 i had before i got fired um i was talking to this woman and she was in her 40 she had just turned

00:17:33.120 like 42 or something and she was like how old are you and i think at the time i was 23 and she was

00:17:37.760 like oh girl you have so much time and i was like yeah she's like yeah if i could go back to any

00:17:41.920 decade i would pick my 30s and i was like really and she goes yeah your 30s are the best because in

00:17:46.700 your 20s you're like spinning and you don't know and everything's who am i what is this what am i

00:17:51.440 doing 30s it's like you're more established in who you are what you want what you like

00:17:55.580 and also she's like also all your friends have money so everything's more fun and i was like

00:18:00.720 that's such a good point because like now you can all go do things together you can go to dinners

00:18:05.080 you can go to lunch you can go on vacations together everyone's hopefully a little more

00:18:08.580 financially stable right she's like now everybody's settled so now you can start doing fun stuff like

00:18:13.220 that 20s is like for grinding yeah working yeah putting in that work i get it but don't get me

00:18:18.880 wrong it's okay like there's a lot of people that still go back to school in their 40s or 50s

00:18:23.360 like it's okay you can do anything it's not a race yeah okay especially not for women

00:18:27.940 you have all the time in the world i'll give you all the time in the world yes men the clock starts

00:18:31.580 now for me the clock starts now right now so when did you start um thinking about like branching to

00:18:40.060 other platforms too like were you kind of growing them all at the same time or did you kind of just

00:18:44.100 lean into twitch for a while oh good question yeah so um i had my instagram page of course and so

00:18:49.840 um i started streaming on twitch and i noticed like uh i i known that you know being active on

00:18:56.180 all platforms is good for the whole brand you know so every time i go live i always tweet that i'm live

00:19:02.060 and i always post on my insta story that i'm live and um i was at the time posting more on tiktok like

00:19:08.220 just trying to do the whole thing because a lot of people don't use a lot of platforms like someone

00:19:14.440 may only use instagram or some people may only use tiktok like i mean you don't even have twitter

00:19:18.940 yeah so it's like i'll never be able to reach you that way so i do think it's good to um have

00:19:24.540 multiple platforms but i think it really started to hit when um i was streaming on twitch for five

00:19:29.780 years and then i got signed to youtube to be an exclusive streamer after it was like during covid

00:19:34.400 like that time so or before covid happened i signed to youtube and so i signed to youtube three

00:19:41.300 different times and so my contract my last contract ended this past january and so when my

00:19:47.600 contract ended i realized i can multi-stream now oh so i'm not exclusive anymore okay so right now

00:19:54.060 for the past like nine months i've been streaming on twitch and youtube at the same time and at first

00:19:59.500 i was like oh this is a bad idea like i feel like i should stream on one platform so i have like a large

00:20:05.640 appeared larger viewership yeah i see what you mean it's not divided between two yeah but then

00:20:10.600 i realized a lot of my community was like oh i don't have access to twitch in my country

00:20:15.700 or or some people would be like oh yeah i don't have um it's laggy on mobile on youtube here or

00:20:22.580 something so i was like i guess it's better to be you know on multiple platforms so the viewer can

00:20:29.320 have their preferred platform right and sure like although my peak viewership for the day isn't going

00:20:36.680 to be as high as if it were on one platform if i'm on both i'll overall have more viewers together

00:20:42.640 like added together yeah absolutely so it's just better overall and you're more accessible in that

00:20:46.540 way exactly like for more people it's like i think longevity like twitch is a pond in comparison to

00:20:52.060 youtube like i call like youtube an ocean like everyone knows what youtube is yeah but not everyone

00:20:56.880 knows what twitch is that's true and it's also the most long stand like one of the longer standing

00:21:01.400 mediums yes i feel like that's the case too because my show too isn't exclusively on youtube

00:21:07.420 or anything like that only parts of it are literally i was searching for you and i was like

00:21:11.740 i was like guys the brief says it's voice and video where's the video and they're like oh it's

00:21:16.540 on spotify it's on spotify because i'm i'm in partnership with spotify right now so like i have

00:21:22.340 to tell oh my gosh i can't even imagine laura runs my socials for this show and i can't even imagine

00:21:27.300 how many times she's had to answer the question i can't find this on youtube where is it

00:21:30.460 like i've had to answer that question two billion times but it is one of those things where it's

00:21:34.460 like right now that's where i'm chilling in the future we shall see but like making it more

00:21:39.280 accessible is really helpful and youtube i feel like on the brand side of things youtube is a far

00:21:44.620 more legitimate to brands in a lot of ways because it's lived the longest out of all these like

00:21:49.060 platforms it's just it's the state it's more substantial now exactly yeah so i i do feel like

00:21:54.140 that plays a huge role with brands being like well where is it youtube because if it's on youtube

00:21:58.240 they're like oh okay yeah no that makes sense because i think even now as big and popular as

00:22:02.980 tiktok is it still isn't taken as seriously for when you have a large following on tiktok like

00:22:08.960 they're kind of like but if you have that on youtube they're like yes so it really just depends

00:22:14.100 i'm so curious um you know how tiktok was under threat of being deleted from the u.s yes was that

00:22:20.360 terrifying for you like were you just like oh i need to be on other platforms now kind of well you know

00:22:25.740 what's funny is like when i first first exploded like and it was like quadrupling on itself and i

00:22:30.800 was like shit like i didn't know where all these people were coming from i was like where the fuck

00:22:33.860 i i for real at that point was like i need to grow everything else because i i know because i'm older

00:22:39.760 like you like we're in our 30s yes like i know that apps don't live forever so like that was

00:22:44.540 years ago way before anything was under threat of being deleted so i already started doing that's why i

00:22:49.840 started this show my i have another show with my sister my book really yeah i have two podcasts

00:22:54.540 i know believe it in me enough yap for two if you can believe it i'm shocked my uh i have a podcast

00:23:00.660 as well called wine about it with cutie cinderella and she also has another podcast yeah and i'm like

00:23:05.580 how do you like not talk about the same topic on two different pods oh i do all the time you would

00:23:11.220 see you can't even believe how many times fans have been like i've heard that story you try talking

00:23:15.280 for 200 episodes bitch you're gonna start to repeat yourself yeah and you know what's funny

00:23:19.160 is like but you do stream and that sounds very fucking hard to me too when you stream for multiple

00:23:24.120 hours like talk about stuff that i should save for the pod on stream because i get really excited

00:23:30.380 and stuff so i just and that's tough like it's really tough having two pods i don't know how you

00:23:34.500 do it honestly oh yeah well well when i first started doing all of this and like rolling balls in

00:23:39.140 all directions yeah um i was kind of preparing for if this if that ever did happen like

00:23:45.060 or it got plus i was getting deleted so often that i was like they might they might snipe me

00:23:49.280 out of the sky then what so i already was prepared for that mind you when it was happening early this

00:23:54.660 year i had just taken a break like from tiktok specifically because it was choking me out and

00:24:01.540 so i was like i can't do this anymore i need a break from you hoes otherwise i'm gonna start hating

00:24:04.480 it here and i need to leave so i took like six oh i think i remember that yeah it took like six weeks

00:24:09.180 off like didn't look at tiktok the only thing i posted were branded things and then as i was like

00:24:13.860 preparing to come back i posted old drafts and shit but never looked at it which was beautiful

00:24:17.980 and amazing so when they were like oh it's going away i'm gonna be honest i didn't give a fuck

00:24:23.100 you didn't care i didn't care at all it's like i'm so surprised and you know why it's because

00:24:29.740 like and i'm sure most people who like are balls deep in tiktok like me or even if you're just a

00:24:34.500 regular avid scroller yeah um it has gotten really fucking rotted in a lot of ways like it has it is not

00:24:42.400 fun anymore like in so many ways there are still pockets of joy i find all the time on tiktok and

00:24:47.720 when i see certain videos i'm like this is why i love this fucking app because i could never watch

00:24:52.300 someone do this shit i watched a farrier dude clean hooves for like an hour yesterday i could never watch

00:24:58.460 that shit anywhere else i'm never gonna look it up myself yeah that is true that is true that's why i'm

00:25:03.640 like it it's a beautiful app in many ways and very fun and i'm very thankful to it that being said

00:25:08.700 it has gotten unbearable in a lot of ways too where have you heard the term bean salad no okay

00:25:14.740 so when people yeah they're like you're gonna bean salad me which on tiktok means there was this one

00:25:20.620 lady who goes this is my my grandma's bean salad recipe and has the whole salad this is a cooking

00:25:26.280 video okay she's like this is the all the ingredients and she's going through it and the

00:25:29.800 top comment said what if i'm allergic to beans don't eat it like i don't know how how to fucking answer

00:25:35.780 that question for you don't eat it and so that take the beans out yeah the what about isms of it

00:25:41.300 like what about me or like you'll say something like i hate a slow walker and they'll and they'll

00:25:46.000 say something like well guess what i have an illness and that makes me walk slow and now you're being

00:25:49.840 ableist towards me bean salad bean salad i didn't know it was like that oh yeah girl it's awful so like

00:25:57.700 around that time is when i had to take a break i was like okay i need to take a break because now i'm

00:26:02.320 starting to genuinely resent making videos which is bad because like you never want like your

00:26:07.700 like your job which was your hobby exactly to turn toxic right exactly and i and i've even explained

00:26:13.800 to you and i'm sure you'll know this too because you've been in the game for a while too like

00:26:16.780 it's not something that anyone like that genuine people i would say who have platforms and have kept

00:26:22.800 them for a long time it's not something we planned on happening like it's not like it literally

00:26:27.640 is just like it just happened what is happening right and then i'm figuring it out as i go along

00:26:32.100 because literally nobody knows until it happens to them how to navigate it so it's like in that

00:26:37.120 kind of mentality that i have of like this just kind of happened i think this entitlement of audiences

00:26:43.320 sometimes feeling like you should just know everything because you chose to do this that's

00:26:47.680 not true i this happened to me i chose to embrace it yes but i never once did i sign something

00:26:53.640 saying you guys can torture me for the rest of my life about everything i say ever and read into

00:26:57.720 things i didn't say ever like i never once said that most frustrating part is when like you say

00:27:03.100 something with good intentions and not realizing how it can be perceived by someone else and then

00:27:08.060 they just like ridicule it or ridicule you right yeah it's like i know i didn't have any ill intention

00:27:14.460 in saying this and like i wish i could respond to every single person and be like this is what i meant

00:27:19.420 right but you can't have these conversations with every single people oh yeah girl you know the

00:27:23.540 show the summer i turned pretty i haven't watched it yet but i heard it was really good okay well

00:27:27.460 if you do watch it i'm careful how you talk about it publicly because 15 year old girls will tell you

00:27:33.300 to kill yourself if you pick the wrong boy i'm speaking from experience the girls too no only the

00:27:38.940 guys can tell me to kill myself well that's it's normal when they do it when women do it it just

00:27:45.140 kills me i got so used to like getting hate from guys for my whole entire career when there's like

00:27:52.680 one girl right i like i literally dm'd her this one time when i saw a comment from this girl and i was

00:27:58.280 like hey let's talk about it what did i do i i'm not used to this type of like yeah oh mine yeah what

00:28:05.760 am i giving you're giving cancer or something you're giving yeah you're giving i'm like capricorn

00:28:09.960 capricorn i'm very i'm a work heavy yeah um i think i'm gonna aquarius let's talk about this

00:28:16.740 aquarius aquarius moon and a sagittarius rising i talk a lot oh i'm a sag i'm a sag rising too

00:28:22.660 i talk a lot of shit on capricorns adam's a capricorn he's not in here but adam's a capricorn

00:28:28.020 i but i wish i wasn't a capricorn i wish i could be anything cooler because i feel like everyone looks

00:28:33.280 like capricorns are like yeah they're loners they just like to work a lot like that's true

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00:29:41.440 oh i don't know who that is she plays elphaba in wicked oh oh oh i'm so bad with names i i'm so

00:29:49.280 bad with that is she's elphaba let me tell you i've been telling people i've been coming on your pod

00:29:55.220 yeah on stream like every every like five i was like oh yeah guys i'm going on druf's afuelos and

00:30:01.500 then i'm like i have to how do we pronounce her name i'm gonna butcher her name now i'm gonna

00:30:05.640 believe you bad with names i'm just kidding what's new join the club i'm gonna send you a dm be like

00:30:11.580 girl can we talk about it yeah let's talk about this what did i do wrong let me so you dm'd so you

00:30:16.080 dm'd some girl i yes it was like the first time i've ever gotten like a hate comment from a woman

00:30:21.600 yeah and i was like oh we can fix this but like every time i feel like it's with a guy like a hater

00:30:26.900 it's to be expected yeah well you're a man so obviously that makes sense yeah yeah you're

00:30:31.880 telling me i'm so used to getting hate for men so much so to the fact that like well the reason i

00:30:37.660 brought up the summary turn pretty is because like when i would joke about that show with my sister on

00:30:42.380 our podcast um i started getting girls making videos about me like being like oh i can't believe

00:30:47.740 drew is team jeremiah which like it's funny it's fun because there's two brothers and it's like a love

00:30:52.420 triangle so it's fun to like be on opposite teams kind of like twilight kind of yeah

00:30:56.840 there's no mythical elements to it i see it's similar in the sense of love triangle right i see

00:31:02.240 and so it's like you picked sides you pick a side which kind of shows your character

00:31:06.100 right i see well you would yeah you would fucking a apparently they read something real awful about me

00:31:11.400 when i wasn't team conrad because when i jokingly i was like no fuck conrad like because it's true

00:31:16.720 like that's that is how i felt watching the show yeah um some girl made a funny video saying like

00:31:21.440 oh i'm devastated that drew's team jeremiah but it was done in good faith it was funny yeah i liked it

00:31:26.180 i enjoyed it but in the comments girl you would have thought i said a slur on life like you

00:31:31.280 murdered someone you would have thought i went live and said something real offensive to someone

00:31:34.740 to their face because it was genuine the way women were like i don't know i just someone literally said

00:31:40.220 i've unraveled every good thing i've ever done for the internet by being team jeremiah she was being

00:31:47.580 dead ass she was being so serious no way speaking of talking to them privately i don't talk to them

00:31:53.460 privately i talk to them publicly so i'll sometimes when i see people running a hate train about me

00:31:57.520 i'll jump in there and i'll be like what exactly are you talking about and i'll start talking to

00:32:01.940 them yeah and this girl's like i don't know i just felt like it's really anti-feminist

00:32:05.780 okay i know you're the best person to ask about this and this is actually something i've just

00:32:13.420 always struggled with because i'm such a confrontational person that when there's a problem

00:32:17.860 i want to talk it out same like i want to i'm so overly vocal which is bad with streaming

00:32:22.820 because it's live i feel like you can't like edit anything like and i'm i'm not the most well-spoken

00:32:28.780 person like i'm gonna say it like i'm gonna speak from my heart and be like hey i didn't mean this

00:32:32.400 blah blah blah and then they'll like clip a part of it and be like ray said this yeah so do you think

00:32:37.680 that addressing these comments and stuff like do you think it's overall a positive thing well i think

00:32:44.100 it depends because if you asked my therapist she would say no but like it depends literally all my

00:32:50.080 friends are like stop saying shit and i'm like but i want to explain myself no and me too and i and i

00:32:55.200 have honestly gone into major detail about that in therapy like i've talked to my therapist extensively

00:33:00.720 about feeling the need to defend myself about everything especially when it speaks to integrity

00:33:04.920 or character but then when i realize is the longer i've done this because i am so confrontational

00:33:10.120 just brand wise that is my thing i'm very confrontational about most things

00:33:13.800 it gets to a point where there are certain people who are committed to misunderstanding you

00:33:19.760 because they just genuinely don't like you like they straight up you might be talking to someone

00:33:23.860 that's just genuinely racist yeah yeah and they just won't no matter what you say yes they're just

00:33:29.240 gonna be like oh i got her to react kind of thing yeah exactly and they're like i can't believe you

00:33:33.300 have this many followers and you're responding to me like that's one of the first things they always

00:33:37.080 say to me and i'm like this is my job i got nothing but time girl to come here and yell at you

00:33:41.940 like i got nothing but time but i i would say that like what mattered over time for me was not

00:33:47.840 addressing every single thing which i did do constantly what mattered after that is addressing

00:33:53.500 things that i felt were necessary to address like if someone is just committed to like

00:33:57.880 misunderstanding hating me or finding finding a valid reason to hate me there's really no point

00:34:03.420 because i could sit here and explain myself over and over and over again and you're still gonna end

00:34:07.280 with i don't know i just don't like you yeah they're just not gonna trust you right so at that

00:34:11.100 point it's like it's a moot point really so i think once i started letting go of that that made my job

00:34:16.760 far less stressful on me yeah because then i was like yeah i actually don't need to address every

00:34:21.680 single lie that people make up about me because then i'd be doing that all day right i've been doing

00:34:25.860 it all day girl you would not believe the things i've seen there was one time where this guy

00:34:31.800 literally was telling people and i mean on every platform tiktok instagram twitter like he was

00:34:39.080 committed to the bit yeah and he's in his 50s and is a dad like has two girls like he's married

00:34:44.820 allegedly a multi-millionaire fuck if i know for real he was telling people that i was a plant from

00:34:51.860 tiktok but an industry plant yes but i was a chinese communist like he said i'm part of the ccp i

00:34:58.640 can't stress that enough he kept saying like why were you in china last year i've never been to

00:35:04.360 china girl like what i mean even if you were and you would go live and literally be like she's a

00:35:09.340 communist like she's from the chinese government like they sent me i think there's a pretty obvious

00:35:17.200 signifier that i am not chinese and i'm not from china like i think there's we're gonna need a dna test

00:35:22.880 yeah i was like yeah i don't know no there might be a one percent to the point that he went on that

00:35:28.420 fresh and fit podcast that like awful incel burrito podcast went on there did two full episodes with

00:35:35.740 them about me being a communist the entire time talking about you 15 minutes and god bless my

00:35:42.760 manager because he paid for the patreon or youtube red access to go watch it just to make sure like

00:35:50.000 capture everything they were saying about me because i was like i don't want to go look at

00:35:53.060 that and i remember one of my fans i think heard about it because he was insane like he was posting

00:35:58.600 hundreds of thousands of things about me about that i'm ignoring it the whole fucking time he

00:36:03.380 literally went in someone went in there watched parts of it came out sent him to me and was like

00:36:08.260 this guy's nuts like anytime my fans would see it they'd be like this guy's literally off his rocker

00:36:13.480 because it's true but he was like saying she and what about this what if she's part of the chinese

00:36:19.100 government those two ding dongs that host the fresh and fit show they both go yeah that'd be

00:36:24.560 crazy and then he goes it's not funny it's not funny he's serious like real serious and then they

00:36:31.500 both go oh okay no yeah for sure it's not funny i'm girl i don't have the time in the day to sit

00:36:37.000 around i mean you'll never convince him that you're what am i gonna do show you my birth certificate i'm

00:36:41.340 not doing that like you're a hundred year old man you're two steps from the grave like i'm not

00:36:44.720 worried about you like focus on your kids your girl i said you just had a baby and this is what

00:36:49.120 you're doing does your wife know anyways imagine growing up and like seeing your parent like focus

00:36:54.340 on it like that's rough one time when recently like i think the bean salad version of hate is the part

00:37:01.520 that was making me go insane and then once i started letting go of that i could focus on the

00:37:05.960 regular hate which is like from men like you and honestly like when i recently i had a guy doing

00:37:11.040 like harassing me just calling me fat and ugly a million times and i literally told my fiancee i

00:37:15.980 was like i missed this kind of hate like this is like this is normal regular this feels regular to

00:37:21.940 me like this feels like home welcome i'm used to this shit this shit i could do in my sleep i could

00:37:30.000 do with my eyes closed i can do i've done that for years i don't care about that but i get it though

00:37:34.440 like it gets to a point where you like you feel the need to talk or respond to like every single thing

00:37:40.220 yeah because i really especially with women they they can continually misunderstand and

00:37:45.580 like misinterpret women especially oh now i gotta watch this show like you have to i've been meaning

00:37:50.880 to um but and all the seasons are out so it's perfect oh really yeah you don't have to wait

00:37:54.900 it's three seasons right yes you don't have to wait for anything is there a fourth one coming out

00:37:58.260 no there's a movie coming out and god help everyone when that movie comes out i don't know what the

00:38:03.260 fuck i'm gonna do i'm gonna bolt my windows and then i'm gonna stream live and i'm gonna talk my

00:38:07.740 shit girl get behind me get behind i literally was like i don't give a damn you guys are not

00:38:15.160 gonna bully me i don't give a damn but a bunch of even um julian salamita when i was like i had

00:38:21.920 posted on my um instagram story like hey some of you need to calm the fuck down about this show like

00:38:28.140 who cares like they're two made-up white boys i don't give a fuck who cares who cares who cares

00:38:32.480 everyone's fine who cares um and he messaged me and he was like this seems like such a stress-free

00:38:38.860 activity should i start watching it and i go only if you want teenagers to tell you to kill yourself

00:38:43.160 only if that's what you're looking for if you're interested there's a big market for it over there

00:38:48.780 we want to talk about that show but i get it crazy so do you like do you have like a younger

00:38:54.660 female audience um no girl i don't i mean i think coming from i think my youngest one

00:39:01.400 my youngest age demographic i think is 18 yeah so like i what happened was when i was talking

00:39:07.260 shit on conrad this fake boy i was talking shit on him and i was like being funny about it but i was

00:39:13.120 like this is why you conrad which is will never get me and i was like going on a little rant about

00:39:17.840 it in my instagram story because that's where i key about stupid shit like it's in my stories

00:39:21.460 yeah um a big bonrad fan that's like their ship name she screenshot my stories she doesn't follow

00:39:28.640 me she went to twitter on a bonrad fan account and then had viral tweets saying like drew's a

00:39:34.900 fucking bitch because she doesn't like conrad it's like a 19 year old girl literally like a 19 year

00:39:40.320 old bonrad fan group it was like three or four of them and then they were just that's that's how all

00:39:45.260 those tweens found me i think yeah i see but for the most part the women who were sending me

00:39:50.100 the most racist like terrible dms about again this fake boy um they were all open well they're

00:39:57.840 in my requests oh i see i see yeah i don't even touch those yeah no i was only looking in there

00:40:03.920 purely i was looking in there to see like uh if people were sending really hateful shit in there

00:40:08.780 because i couldn't even imagine like i saw it in comments i couldn't even imagine what they were

00:40:13.240 saying in my dms oh yeah when they think that no one else is gonna see it right and then when i

00:40:18.040 i'm not someone who blurs names i never cut out usernames like if you want to say some crazy

00:40:22.580 shit in my dms you're everyone's gonna see it like everyone's gonna see it sometimes they want

00:40:26.160 that though i know so then i put him but then you'd be surprised how many women who were harassing me

00:40:31.500 over that stupid ass show were like wow really like i'm a nurse and you're gonna put my information

00:40:37.820 out there like that yeah bitch i am oh no one told you to come in here and harass me like no one told

00:40:43.580 you to come in here and say something racist to me and now you're worried your employer might see

00:40:47.700 it i mean that's your character yeah yeah maybe you should have thought of that like but in a funnier

00:40:52.460 version of that story recently i had a man come into my dms and he wrote like he wrote something

00:40:59.520 awful about like he was like you're fat and disgusting and like what this guy's saying about

00:41:04.700 you is true whatever some bullshit i go on his uh profile i go and look he has a girlfriend and a

00:41:10.440 son and so i go and look and i i said like does your girlfriend know that you spend your free time

00:41:16.700 harassing women or should i tell her i always say that to men who think that's funny and then he i

00:41:21.980 waited for him to say something to me because i was like say something to me bitch for real and then

00:41:25.760 he said she knows i don't fuck with you i don't care and then i said all right so i screenshot that

00:41:32.600 went to his girl cm sent hair like hey girl you don't know me i've done that many times and i'm like

00:41:37.560 but your man thinks it's funny to say shit like this to women he doesn't know on the internet

00:41:40.620 and if my man were embarrassing me like that i would want someone to tell me and i said to her

00:41:46.280 and then i left him in my in my dms because i just wanted to see if you'd post it and i posted

00:41:51.140 it publicly too then he dm'd me back and he goes wow really you're gonna fucking tell my my girlfriend

00:41:57.220 on me are you serious what are you a child literally starts like you warned him like hello you said

00:42:02.880 you didn't give a fuck yeah i thought you said what so why are you so mad and he literally was

00:42:07.880 like i like wow okay that's yeah all right and i said and you work in the medical field

00:42:13.220 i said hopefully not with women and then he was like why would you why would you post my

00:42:18.340 information he and he was like i'm gonna sue you i was like for what this girl was mean to me

00:42:27.000 sued i'm like you don't have the money to sue yeah that'll go well in court and his and that's

00:42:32.480 one of the few girlfriends that have dm'd me back because most of the time they don't say anything

00:42:36.900 back to me but she messaged me back and said um i'm so sorry and i'm so embarrassed and i just

00:42:43.180 didn't say anything it is embarrassing it is like imagine like your partner is just like spending their

00:42:47.880 time like dming other women and like i found out girl my man was harassing like sexually harassing

00:42:53.920 women online oh oh my god you're gonna embarrass me like that nah that's a back in your crate

00:43:00.700 back in your crate okay i have some fun facts about you ray oh can we go over some fun facts

00:43:08.760 speaking of crates just kidding okay it says your real name rachel is spelled with two l's but she

00:43:18.640 didn't realize until she was in sixth grade how did you even find this information you were misspelling

00:43:24.780 your own name um yeah so i my real name is rachel and i literally didn't find out until i saw my birth

00:43:32.820 certificate in sixth grade like i was just like going through papers and stuff and like i found it

00:43:37.520 and i see rachel hofstetter rachel spelled with two l's and so i go to my mom and i'm like

00:43:44.840 this is how you spell my name yeah and she goes oh yeah the nurse misheard me

00:43:49.640 the nurse didn't understand my accent and i'm like you didn't want to tell me or like

00:43:55.840 right hello she's like ah who's coming for you yeah i think she literally she's like who cares

00:44:01.080 it's a government name she's like it's an actual letter whatever um yeah no my mom is a little um

00:44:06.060 she's a little she's a little crazy so she gave my sister and i the same middle name which is her

00:44:10.740 name mind you marie so real which is really hilarious she's so real and she she said i know

00:44:15.560 two divas when i see them yeah she's both me she's like it's me but like uh my sister she also gave my

00:44:22.520 sister kind of a weird name my sister has two periods in her name like legal birth certificate

00:44:27.080 my sister's getting her name changed that's how bad it is with like getting like uh documents

00:44:32.420 with periods it's literally k dot c dot lynn so it's my sister hates it but my mom is like i feel

00:44:40.880 like she's a little too crazy with the names and so i i asked her i was like why like why does my name

00:44:46.480 put two l's and she was like oh um she's like i don't know if like it should be rochelle raquel and

00:44:52.300 she's like i want to name you after your father rate uh richard get no frills delivered shop the

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00:45:05.240 year for 250 a month learn more at pcexpress.ca my dad's with richard i'm like okay like i don't

00:45:12.060 see how it's the same it just starts with an r i guess like sure we're just talking initials yeah i

00:45:16.860 think she's just like you know giving me a bunch of excuses at this point and then she's like well

00:45:20.100 originally your name was supposed to be nicole but then i found out that her her friend named her

00:45:24.780 daughter's middle name nicole and so she changed it last second apparently right i'm like none of

00:45:30.460 that answers why you put two l's in there exactly like i literally think she told the nurse uh yeah

00:45:37.520 name her rachel and then the nurse just spelt it i don't know two l's like it's it's kind of crazy

00:45:43.280 yeah my my sister's name is dason but it's spelled d-e-i-s-o-n wait i love both of your names

00:45:49.600 thank you it's so unique but my mom was asleep when they brought the birth certificate for my

00:45:54.220 sister and my dad it was supposed to be spelled d-e-y-s-o-n but my dad was like my dad was awake

00:46:01.180 so my dad was like oh and he just wrote d-e-i-s-o-n my mom said they spelled her name wrong and he goes no

00:46:06.080 that's how i wrote it and she was like why would you write it that way and he goes well i thought it

00:46:09.640 was like modern day like the high school and then my mom goes why the why would i name her after

00:46:16.400 a school like why would i why would i use that spelling after a school for my firstborn child

00:46:22.120 like why would i ever do that and then my dad was like i don't know it's kind of crazy now that i

00:46:26.980 think about it why are they having you name your baby after like you give birth you know shit like

00:46:31.540 give me a second i think it's crazy that like only your dad was in the process of like yeah he was

00:46:36.580 like oh well maybe we could just change it everyone goes we can't fucking yeah you can't just

00:46:41.040 change it it's on the birth certificate now so now like my sister's whole life everyone has said

00:46:46.160 dyson because it's deep because of the eye i see so she's like so you made my life harder thanks for

00:46:51.960 that oh my gosh and my my sister's actual middle name is my dad's name yeah oh yeah yeah so at least

00:46:59.100 you don't have the same like middle names right no we don't mine's tyson so mine's drew tyson off

00:47:04.840 wall of hers is dason tate that's so sick do you like your name yeah i love my name i used to really

00:47:10.160 dislike my name because mostly because every time i said it everyone always be like oh like drew

00:47:16.520 carey which i was always like why is that the first drew you think it's like the only drew yeah but i

00:47:21.060 was like drew barrymore is the first one i think of and that's who i was named after like my mom

00:47:25.500 loved the name drew as like a gender neutral name and so and mike tyson was big at the time i was born

00:47:30.920 so that's why tyson's my middle name no way me and mike tyson twin that's built we're built the same

00:47:37.380 and also like you're kicking ass similar line yeah like to hit we both want to hit jake paul

00:47:43.940 you know all the things we have so much in common he and i wait that is i did not know that about you

00:47:52.220 yeah all of us awesome all of us have the same initials me and my brother are like me and my

00:47:57.760 siblings it's three of you yeah there's it's dta for all of us so we all have the same wait that's

00:48:02.500 was there a reason why they wanted dt i don't think so it was just the trend yeah my mom just

00:48:08.100 like really and someone no one diagnosed my mom i know one of you is going to try my mom like names

00:48:14.020 everyone or every pet we've ever had with a d name like that was always required so my mom would do

00:48:19.360 this cute little game where she would bring a pet into the house and she'd be like we'd be like oh my

00:48:23.600 god no way she'd be like let's pick a name as a family and then me and my sister would cook up a name

00:48:28.080 we'd be like okay yeah let's think of something whimsical and fun and then we'd present the name

00:48:32.580 and she'd be like that's cute no her name's darla so i've already named her these are her i'm not even

00:48:37.620 kidding i've had plenty of dogs cats everything we'd be like well i think i want to name no i'm

00:48:44.880 thinking dexter that's his name so so i already got the collar and here it is and it was like my mom

00:48:49.760 the collar's already there yeah my mom would do this thing where she's like team meeting let's think of

00:48:53.800 one that sucks okay i'm gonna pick this one and like it was almost like great let's get the

00:48:57.880 she wants you to feel involved but like at the end of the day you don't really have but also i

00:49:01.360 hate that fucking name so no i'm not gonna pick that um it was like it she did it every year for

00:49:06.780 years like every time we had an animal and then i remember my sister got her own dog for the first

00:49:12.200 time don't tell me she named well she picked the name already my sister picked the name she's like i

00:49:17.100 already have it i want his name to be do you remember what it was it was like taco or something

00:49:21.560 yeah it was like yeah she's like jelly it was a bulldog and then my mom goes

00:49:26.340 i think his name should be duke and guess what his name was duke you're joking so like that's cute

00:49:36.980 um i hate that name let's pick one with a d actually i think i already came up with one let's

00:49:42.140 do this one that my mom did that every time and then when i got my own animals in my own house i

00:49:47.340 said guess what no d names in this house yeah no respectfully i would probably lose my mind

00:49:52.200 i don't know how i don't know how it was just the most like all right it's like you kind of

00:49:58.040 just accepted yeah we were all just kind of like oh all right whatever i've had a lot of animals do

00:50:03.000 you have a lot of animals um i know you have your own sheba yes right now i have a dog his name is

00:50:07.460 mika he's uh we have the same birthday uh january 8th he's also a capricorn yes he is he acts like it

00:50:13.160 too he's a businessman um and uh yeah no i i used to grow up on a farm i used to have llamas

00:50:19.340 chickens bunnies like we had a salt water tank we had uh it was crazy there'd be like rattlesnakes

00:50:25.180 in the yard and everything but um yeah i've grew up around animals a lot of animals um i want to

00:50:30.220 get a cat i was just telling drew right before we started filming that like i'm waiting for the cat

00:50:34.420 distribution system to hit me hard like a truck like i'm ready for a cat so i think i need to go

00:50:39.680 on long walks i'm just afraid to walk by myself in la so yeah naturally like i'm like driving like

00:50:45.420 looking for the cat yeah keeping an eye out yeah but i feel like if you're like walking

00:50:49.020 you know maybe if you hear a little meow i'm like this is it this is what happened to me i just like

00:50:55.140 i just want to find one on the streets and be like let me take care of you let me heal you let me heal

00:51:01.340 you i think that's a fun way of yeah deciding you want a cat exactly like just like it's a random it'll

00:51:07.800 be so right like a loot box fate you never know what's gonna come out of the bushes yeah um but yeah i'm

00:51:13.540 babysitting one of my friends's cats this weekend and so i think it's gonna be a good trial to see

00:51:18.240 how my dog reacts around like a cat in the house yeah because my dog's been around cats before but

00:51:22.720 i used to have roommates where their cats literally had like a piss war like in the living room because

00:51:27.900 of the smells they would fight with each other and stuff and so their cats had to be like locked

00:51:31.900 away in their rooms and so my dog didn't really get to have like that cat experience right so i'm

00:51:36.880 really curious so it's nice i'm gonna like cat sitting and like see like hey how he's gonna react

00:51:41.720 with like cats and stuff so how is he typically with other animals he loves dogs um he's a little

00:51:46.460 i i think my dog's asexual and there's something a little crazy i i think he i've never seen him

00:51:52.480 like you know how dogs like hump everything yeah and like especially boy dogs yes so my dog has never

00:51:58.580 humped anything in his whole life ever which is waiting for marriage yeah maybe who knows and also

00:52:05.800 he's never he doesn't chew anything like he's just very weird i feel like shebas are kind of like

00:52:12.320 that already like shebas are kind of like the cats of the dog world where their personalities are so

00:52:16.940 hit and miss um and so he's just a little already cat like yeah and so i feel like he would be i mean

00:52:24.060 he's been around cats before but not like 24 7 and he just acts like they don't exist that's nice so i

00:52:29.400 think that's what you really want you want them to just not pay attention to them really exactly that's

00:52:33.660 nice yeah i'm excited for more pets i know i would love i would love for you to get a cat i think

00:52:38.160 that that makes sense i'll send you a photo if i on the street i'm like drew it happened

00:52:42.040 don't i found one it chose me today i know i'm gonna name it with the letter d

00:52:46.900 there you go have that fun little thing where you you ask for suggestions from the chat and then you

00:52:52.600 go all of your suggestions are stupid i picked one already yeah no i'm gonna do like a poll

00:52:56.000 what do you think the pet's name should be and like just kidding here's the caller yeah thanks for

00:52:59.880 all your dumb suggestions i already picked one here it is like that was a fun activity

00:53:03.580 but this is the real name exactly exactly okay i have some more fun facts about you

00:53:08.800 um well it says you worked at gamestop in college did you like that job um no i think

00:53:14.100 genuinely the worst job you can ever get because one it's retail okay so you have to hit like a

00:53:20.580 quota like we had to like sell these game informers and like memberships and stuff interesting so that's

00:53:25.260 one thing like you have to like and you're not getting tips either it's not like you're a waitress

00:53:29.420 getting tips right so you're doing all this stuff just to not get fired right and then um the worst

00:53:34.640 part about it which i think people don't recognize is that gamestop is also half pawn shop

00:53:39.160 right oh that's right you are getting all the crackheads coming in trying to sell their xbox game

00:53:43.960 from 1990 yeah they're like can you give me like a thousand dollars for it yeah and then you have to

00:53:49.280 look it up in the system how much the game is worth and then you have to break the news to them

00:53:52.540 that their game is worth five cents yeah and they can't buy their drugs yeah and then they freak out

00:53:58.460 and it's your fault because you're behind the counter yeah it's like it's not my fault and you're in that

00:54:02.100 black polo and it's just all bad it's rough i mean i remember a time when i was like cleaning up and

00:54:08.160 there was like this baby on this woman's shoulder and the baby dead ass looks me in the eye and just

00:54:12.820 starts puking all over on the floor and so it's just like man retail is rough yeah awful i feel like

00:54:19.480 having a job where you can at least get tips or like have incentive to do like or movement to some

00:54:25.340 extent exactly yeah because you're kind of stationary too when you're in retail but yeah i

00:54:29.380 just especially dealing with that many men a day oh god girl having to give men bad news all day

00:54:35.840 it's mostly like just like people coming in and just getting yelling at you for not getting more

00:54:43.160 money for their like crusty dusty game that they've like been like spitting on for the past like five

00:54:48.040 you know what i mean right so it's just it was a space no you're all no that was the worst job

00:54:54.160 ever i'm glad i quit but admittedly the only good thing that i had like the good experience i had

00:54:59.680 with working at gamestop is that i would like i had a good relationship with my co-workers so we'd

00:55:03.480 play games together after oh that's nice um we would have first dibs on like first releases oh that's

00:55:09.720 cool also it worked really well with like my instagram account because i'd be able to post like new

00:55:14.040 things that were coming out new things i was playing so it worked well with like my business

00:55:19.440 right never let gamestop get in the way of your streaming dreams and you didn't i did not

00:55:25.120 it says you have one singular naturally red hair on your head how are you even finding these amanda

00:55:33.040 that one's weird how did you find that that is i'm like this is so hilarious me me pointing that

00:55:41.400 finger because i'm like she's making me look weird but that was her who found that i did say

00:55:46.180 but i've i've probably mentioned that like one time during a stream like 10 years ago

00:55:53.160 amanda's one of those people that she was at the airport waiting for you to pick her up

00:55:57.820 how much you know about me wait that's hilarious i do i've got one natural red hair on the back of

00:56:07.940 my it's like back here somewhere but yeah um i mean i i'm half german half filipina and my dad

00:56:14.420 naturally had like blonde curly hair blue eyes so i think maybe that's where the red hair came from i

00:56:20.700 don't know but i doubt it came from your mom yeah no i it's funny because like i have naturally uh curly

00:56:27.240 hair and so people think oh it's because you're filipino and i'm like actually a lot of filipinos i think

00:56:31.460 have straight hair like my dad had a curly blonde afro yeah and so it's it's really confusing because

00:56:37.620 like when i have my natural hair it's like i feel like i don't look filipino as much as filipinos

00:56:43.020 yeah because like the because yeah the texture exactly interesting yeah no i got yeah one red

00:56:48.960 hair that's so funny that is so funny i'm gonna find it it's like a nice party it's been a while

00:56:53.400 i just dye my hair like often so i don't know where it's been for a few years now like is it still

00:57:00.000 there i don't know you know last i checked which was however long ago you said that one fact one

00:57:05.200 time and amanda found it wait that's hilarious good job amanda you need a raise yeah uh it says

00:57:12.320 you've made cameos and multiple bill of porsche music videos i think i remember one of them yeah

00:57:17.840 was poking in that one too yes okay i do remember there was multiple gamers there was multiple um

00:57:22.800 yeah i've i've kind of been like the background of like multiple music videos i don't know it's like i

00:57:28.980 guess it was part of me trying to also reach outside of the gaming sphere but um it kind of

00:57:33.840 gaming has opened up a lot of doors in other spaces like totally um doing like music stuff or like

00:57:39.540 voice acting oh love yeah um what else is there like oh the fashion like i went to fashion a lot

00:57:45.460 of fashion stuff yeah um i literally was in europe for three weeks and i just got back that's where

00:57:50.380 my bronchitis came from it's going away but um yeah just kind of i didn't expect to do those things

00:57:55.700 and i don't think they would have happened unless i was in the gaming space like i think the craziest

00:58:00.240 thing that happened from gaming is that my first like fashion feature was i had a seven page spread

00:58:06.640 in vogue philippines which is like what do you mean that's my first like fashion thing is like vogue

00:58:11.920 hello but like that's because of gaming so i feel like it just kind of opened up a bunch of doors

00:58:15.800 it's so awesome which is really cool you bretman i saw bella did one yes yeah i swear if i knew

00:58:23.300 tagalog i would be living in the philippines being an actress or something or like living a whole

00:58:28.560 different life but i it pains me that my mom never taught me tagalog yeah you can never too late to

00:58:34.520 learn i bet that's true but it is difficult when you don't speak the language every day because like

00:58:39.540 when am i gonna who my friends none of them know tagalog that's how someone is too like for me i'm

00:58:44.380 someone so like learning we were taking a language class for a while which was really fun recently

00:58:50.100 this year but then we stopped halfway through because every class we would get on it was like

00:58:55.300 on zoom once a week every class we would get on we'd be like why do i feel so far behind and it was

00:58:59.580 like me my sister and my mom and then we found out that they were doing classes on thursdays too and

00:59:04.440 we just had no fucking idea so we were missing half the fucking classes like we went to like four or

00:59:09.540 five tuesdays in a row and we were like i just feel like everyone is so much further ahead

00:59:13.960 and it was because they were doing literally we missed like six classes so that's why no one told

00:59:19.140 you no we were just like i think we were just kind of relying on each other we were like yeah no it's

00:59:23.500 fine we'll just go and then every time we were like i didn't learn that last week now we know why

00:59:28.080 that would i would lose my mind yeah i was literally like like going to class and being like how are

00:59:33.500 people knowing i remember for a while too after like my mom was like do you think there's another

00:59:38.500 class and then my sister was like no i think it's just tuesdays and i said yeah me too

00:59:42.980 and then literally four weeks later she goes i fucking knew there was another class that we

00:59:50.140 were missing because we me my sister gaslighting her we're like no he said tuesdays oh my gosh

00:59:56.080 that's crazy have you ever tried duolingo yeah i don't know if it works well someone's not on

01:00:02.160 duolingo i don't think enough people speak it fluently in order for it to qualify but i was learning

01:00:06.520 hawaiian on duolingo for a while because i lived in hawaii for a while i went to school there and

01:00:10.720 tough one yeah i have a lot of family who live there but there's a lot of crossover with someone

01:00:13.920 so i think that's why i was like latching onto it a little harder i actually know more i probably know

01:00:18.640 more hawaiian than i do someone which is strange and weird but i get you though like it's one of

01:00:23.480 those i bet tagalog is one of those languages similarly where it's like it's easier to learn

01:00:27.620 when everybody's speaking yes and you're listening to it living there yeah like it would just be like

01:00:31.780 right now i feel like the most useful language i could probably learn is like something like

01:00:34.860 spanish because i feel like there's more people around me that are speaking it i get that and i

01:00:39.600 speak way more spanish too than i do either of those other two languages so what's that mean who knows

01:00:44.860 dna test yeah and it's funny because like uh when i first met the rock ever i like greeted him

01:00:50.480 respectfully and someone there's like a whole thing you do when you greet elders right so i greeted him

01:00:55.360 and then that clip went viral and he kind of responded to me but didn't he was like oh my god okay are

01:01:00.660 you someone whatever and then i saw him again and we talked about it whatever

01:01:03.580 and i remember some people were like she speaks someone and he doesn't i don't speak it fluently

01:01:09.700 yeah i i'm conversational at best i can get to like hi how are you good how are you good i'm good

01:01:16.000 that's where it ends for me after that it's anyone's guess right but i remember i just practiced that

01:01:21.400 greeting so many times because i took a language course of someone language in college yeah i was like

01:01:26.780 i just sound fluent because i've memorized those couple sentences yeah i nailed those that's all

01:01:33.060 you need sometimes it'd be impressive really that's what i was like that's really as far as it goes for

01:01:38.500 me for real i know wait so what is the like respectful way to introduce yourself well when

01:01:43.920 you're greeting like an older person which would be an elder you say like talofa like talofa lava

01:01:49.580 which means like it hi how hi it's nice to see you in good health like essentially so like in

01:01:57.180 response to me he would say which is like it's also nice to see you in good health but he doesn't

01:02:02.260 have to greet me that way because i'm younger than him so he has a choice right i don't know so that's

01:02:07.940 the problem yeah but i practice those two sentences sometimes that's all you need like you said to

01:02:13.420 impress people yeah i'm like the hockey time because i love you in tagalog that's all i know

01:02:18.060 but people love that that's our favorite perfect okay this last one says that you played high school

01:02:24.200 tennis yes yeah i did yes did you enjoy playing tennis um tennis is hard yeah i was varsity captain

01:02:34.680 for two years in my high school um i loved it i almost went to college for tennis and it just

01:02:40.400 pained me because i feel like there's an alternate universe where i actually just like

01:02:44.100 didn't do video games as a career and you played tennis and i played tennis and i was like an

01:02:49.360 athlete and it's kind of crazy like i wonder what life would have been like kind of off the internet

01:02:54.440 in that way right um i mean i'm very grateful i'm i'm happy that this is the way things turned out

01:02:59.860 of course very very grateful to be where i am today but it is always curious like i there was a time

01:03:04.480 where i was considering being a flight attendant really i mean people are like how could you do that

01:03:08.420 you're so short but it's because like my uncle was a pilot for delta so nice uh he kind of had

01:03:13.580 to be a flight attendant that's what people were saying but it's like they were heels like i would

01:03:17.320 just have an extra couple inches on my heels i wonder why you have to be tall i think it's to

01:03:21.180 help with the suitcases girl yeah but it's not that like i could put my own suitcase up like it's not

01:03:26.920 that talking about but they were heels anyway so it's like wow there's so many different things

01:03:32.680 that could have happened in life right like this is where i ended up yeah crazy i know that is kind

01:03:37.040 of nuts was there like a what were you doing before social media like was there something

01:03:42.040 that you were considering doing full-time oh yeah yeah i was like on the i was a journalism

01:03:46.600 comm major in college so then i went to school for journalism but my emphasis was in sports journalism

01:03:51.480 so i liked i was the sports editor of my college newspaper for a couple years yeah so i i profiled

01:03:57.040 athletes like i wrote um like editorials on them and but i like i did game recaps for like

01:04:03.420 the longest fucking time so i was like gaming recap yeah so basically you just recap what

01:04:08.480 happened in the game and all the statistics sports i'm like yeah oh you thought like yeah i was like

01:04:13.520 video games no like sports i remember my first beat to cover uh was baseball which was like literally

01:04:20.880 shoot me in the head bitch baseball is so boring i like literally every time i went they went to 12

01:04:26.140 innings i said what the fuck like there's no way so i remember doing game recaps forever was kind of like

01:04:33.420 cool but i found more joy in like profiling athletes like following them off the field

01:04:38.540 yeah just seeing like what they're doing yeah who they are where they come from like if they have

01:04:42.260 really crazy stories like i did a story on brothers that played on the line opposite each other like

01:04:47.720 exactly opposite of each other i did a story on like a guy who um had to take two years off of

01:04:52.960 high school because he got in a gang fight almost died and then came back now he's playing college

01:04:56.440 football so i loved stuff like that i thought that was way more fun yeah to me that was far more

01:05:00.920 interesting because i like got to write about them and stuff so then after college i worked for my mom

01:05:06.000 for a bit in pr because it was like hard to get a job then i worked at the nfl then they fired me

01:05:11.380 so why did they fire you oh they said it was for a multitude of reasons i'm sure um mostly like my

01:05:19.040 manager just fucking hated me like she really really did not like me and it was a your manager yeah my

01:05:24.660 manager oh that's an op and it was a it was also like a brand new team so it was just me and her

01:05:30.940 so it's like she's like um can i talk to you can we have a team meeting just the two of us

01:05:36.720 just the two of us looking sitting across from each other uh because i was her only subordinate and she

01:05:41.280 was new yeah um which sometimes i think about it because i've had one really really or actually two

01:05:47.520 really mean female professors in college who like literally insulted me to my face multiple times

01:05:52.740 and then a really mean manager at the nfl who was a woman also disappointing awful when when it's

01:05:59.280 women disappointing oh but i remember thinking to myself and this stands true to this day and it

01:06:04.840 makes a lot more sense with what i do now which is like empowering women specifically um or especially

01:06:09.700 i should say i literally had every reason in the world to be a big ass fucking pick me in my 30s

01:06:16.200 because i had really i was surrounded by really really mean women who were awful and mean and

01:06:20.980 vindictive but i literally remember thinking i'm not gonna let these women convince me women are

01:06:27.100 awful because women are not awful and even with them i all those women who were really awful to me

01:06:31.800 i was like i have empathy for you because there is a reason why through it well there's a reason why

01:06:36.500 you're like that like you feel the need to act that way because of the patriarchy this is the work

01:06:40.360 of a man like that's what i kept thinking of like only a man would try to make me hate another woman

01:06:44.340 through a woman only a man would do that to me yeah and i held on to that and now thankfully i have my

01:06:49.280 dream job which is being fucking mean to men and empowering everybody else like i think it all's

01:06:54.260 well it ends well just like where you ended up i think you're in the perfect spot where you meant

01:06:58.280 to be yeah no it women were meant to follow you in gaming i really do think you and pokey were

01:07:03.060 revolutionary to like the twitch space it is really like even when i was just in europe a few weeks ago

01:07:08.620 like i literally had like girls come up to me like you're the reason why i got into gaming or you're

01:07:12.460 the reason i started streaming and it's always like wow like i took i was part of the reason for what

01:07:17.480 kind of changed their life in that way it's true it's really cool and i know for a fact i mean i

01:07:22.140 know the way that you've affected me like being more outspoken and it's okay to yell at a guy that's

01:07:26.680 being rude to you yeah like it's okay to like you know stand your ground yeah i'll get behind you

01:07:32.600 yeah i'll do it for you i do it for pokey too i well and that's how i feel about you i feel like you are

01:07:38.020 revolutionized the twitch space like really you did and the fact that you've been doing it so

01:07:41.920 successfully for so long gotta give you your flowers mama i think you did a wonderful thing

01:07:46.420 and you really have like i i really do think representation is one of the few things when i

01:07:50.860 think about media literacy that makes me emotional because i think like women seeing you succeed in

01:07:56.820 that space so significantly and for a long time and like garner the audience you do branch into the

01:08:02.760 other things it's important it matters it is important yeah i even remember when i was growing up

01:08:08.500 um especially in middle school and high school gaming was not cool yeah i got bullied for it

01:08:13.780 yeah a lot and so um i just like i always hit it i was always off to by myself and like i just know

01:08:19.120 there's a lot of people the same way where it's like it's like not socially acceptable in some places

01:08:23.780 of the states or whatever like oh if you're a girl like what are you doing you should be playing

01:08:27.940 with dolls yeah like practice cooking you know i know so it's it's different times i think times

01:08:34.940 are changing i mean right now the states are not in a good place but well and they're changing

01:08:39.420 because of people like you like to be quite honest with you like that's what changes is with women who

01:08:43.780 don't adhere to that and they're like actually no i actually am gonna do it i'm gonna play and i'm

01:08:47.900 gonna have fun i'm gonna show other women they can do it too i think you're so impactful don't let

01:08:52.220 these random dudes make you not do what you like to do honestly and i'd rather watch women do anything

01:08:57.740 any day regardless when men do it i'm like whatever when women do it i'm like yay

01:09:01.900 well to wrap us do you have any advice for any aspiring streamers women anyone that's not an

01:09:10.060 awful cis straight man who would like to get into it i got you any advice i mean this is what i always

01:09:15.820 say like one you it has to be as authentic as possible especially with streaming and like being

01:09:21.320 on the internet people can tell when you're faking it yeah people can tell when you're not having a

01:09:25.040 good time yeah like and also if you're gonna be doing this 24 7 it has to be something you

01:09:28.740 genuinely enjoy to do like do it as a hobby have fun don't do it for money don't quit your job

01:09:34.340 first i tell people don't quit your job because you never know like tiktok could get banned

01:09:39.240 exactly i say the same thing yeah and i was like and i didn't be stable before and then do it as a

01:09:44.460 hobby you know like and that's more fun you know like definitely post what you enjoy like like

01:09:50.680 filming and posting and stuff um but also like just know everyone gets hate and ridiculed and judged

01:09:58.000 but if i would have listened to these random people yelling at me i wouldn't be where i am today yeah

01:10:04.140 which is you know you just have to keep going yeah put your head down or up wherever you want your head

01:10:09.120 to be i just don't let these people stop you from doing what genuinely makes you happy so do what's

01:10:14.480 best for you okay love that and you would know you're a vet now oh i'm a veteran i'm sitting

01:10:21.060 listen i'm gonna be like 80 years old streaming playing video games i'm gonna be granny ray

01:10:25.700 okay uh i'll be there and i'll be like back in my day yeah exactly and i'm i'm gonna watch you do it

01:10:32.360 i'm watching right you and pokey are gonna grow old together yeah no i'm gonna come back on this

01:10:35.840 podcast in about 50 years and be like remember when we talked about that exactly period well thank you

01:10:41.380 so much for coming on the show thanks for having me you gotta come on whine about it yes i would

01:10:45.460 love to i'll whine about anything girl oh yes especially with you as well my co-host like

01:10:50.340 oh yeah manila told me a lot about cutie yes yeah she's told me so much about oh my god yeah cutie

01:10:55.080 and manila are like this so that'll be so much look at that girl time love that thank you so much for

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The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - November 05, 2025

WHY WOULD WE STOP GAMING？ Ft. Valkyrae ｜ Episode 194

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