WWE SMACKDOWN Ft. Bob the Drag Queen ｜ Episode 162
Summary
Bob the Drag Queen is back on the comment section with a brand new episode of The Comment Section! This week's guest is none other than the one and only Ms. Heron herself, the legendary drag queen herself, Boba Fett! Boba talks about her love of Star Wars, her love for The Proud Family, and what it was like growing up in the 80s and 90s.
Transcript
00:00:00.000
Ontario. The wait is over. The gold standard of online casinos has arrived. Golden Nugget
00:00:06.000
Online Casino is live, bringing Vegas-style excitement and a world-class gaming experience
00:00:11.040
right to your fingertips. Whether you're a seasoned player or just starting, signing up is
00:00:15.820
fast and simple. And in just a few clicks, you can have access to our exclusive library of the
00:00:21.120
best slots and top-tier table games. Make the most of your downtime with unbeatable promotions
00:00:26.420
and jackpots that can turn any mundane moment into a golden opportunity at Golden Nugget Online
00:00:32.260
Casino. Take a spin on the slots, challenge yourself at the tables, or join a live dealer
00:00:36.920
game to feel the thrill of real-time action, all from the comfort of your own devices. Why settle
00:00:42.220
for less when you can go for the gold at Golden Nugget Online Casino? Gambling problem? Call
00:00:48.140
Connex Ontario, 1-866-531-2600. 19 and over, physically present in Ontario. Eligibility
00:00:55.060
restrictions apply. See GoldenNuggetCasino.com for details. Please play responsibly.
00:00:59.900
This episode of the comment section is presented by Billy. Taking care of yourself is very healing,
00:01:05.480
like just a hot shower when you're feeling stressed about work or some cringe encounter
00:01:09.620
can make you feel so much better. Billy gets that, and it's why they make amazing products for every
00:01:15.400
step of your routine. Their award-winning razor gives you a super smooth shave, while their hydrating
00:01:21.280
body wash and lotion helps nourish your skin. And their aluminum-free DOs keep you smelling fresh
00:01:27.280
for 24 hours. You've got your reasons. Billy's got your routine. Shop in-store and at MyBilly.com.
00:01:34.460
Would you want to go through a black hole? Not mine.
00:01:42.080
Hey, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the comment section show starring me, your fave.
00:01:52.960
Everybody knows me, who cares about me. On to the guests. Today, we have another all-star banger.
00:01:58.380
It's the one, the only, the iconic, the legendary Bob the Drag Queen.
00:02:06.720
How many, who's your, who's your most visited guest?
00:02:11.900
Well, I have quite a few now that have done two.
00:02:17.400
I feel like Cato's going to be the first three.
00:02:30.940
So, I'm so honored to have you back, you fucking legend.
00:02:37.420
Have you thought about turning, like, using your laugh to do, like, voiceover work?
00:02:52.500
Well, it's not his laugh, but Mark Hamill played the Joker, and he had a laugh that goes,
00:02:56.160
ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah.
00:03:04.440
But back when they didn't even have televisions.
00:03:17.580
Do you know Nickelodeons are called that because a Nickelodeon is a movie theater where the movie's a nickel?
00:03:28.580
There's a character on The Proud Family that's a grandpa, and his name is Poppy.
00:03:34.860
That's what they call him, and he laughs exactly like me.
00:03:38.100
And I thought people were dragging it a little bit when they first started telling me.
00:03:41.040
Then I looked at the clips, and I said, all right, you guys got me.
00:03:48.720
That's me with like, are you tired of hearing...
00:03:51.140
Wait, I have a wonderful question for you that's random because you're so unbelievably funny, obviously.
00:03:56.360
But do you ever say something about yourself that's like, clearly, it's like self-deprecating
00:04:01.420
joke, but it's really funny, and then it kind of catches on, and then you kind of get sick
00:04:06.820
of hearing it because you're like, that's my joke.
00:04:09.720
I mean, I can't think of anything right now, but yeah, there are definitely times where
00:04:11.920
I have deprecated myself in a way, and I'm like, all right, that was for me.
00:04:24.380
It was one of my first ever touring gigs after being cast on Drag Race.
00:04:29.600
I was at a place called Our Place in Seattle, Washington.
00:04:33.080
And this guy came up to me, and he just goes, I got to tell you, Bob, I love you.
00:04:45.240
And I said, oh, he goes, for you, it's about the talent.
00:04:49.240
He goes, you care about the artist and the performance.
00:04:52.480
Then he goes, you don't care what you look like.
00:05:08.880
I was like, I feel like I put effort into my look today.
00:05:11.380
Granted, this may not be the best I've ever looked, but that gagged me.
00:05:14.900
You said, yeah, I'm going to have to go look in the mirror a couple more times, but you
00:05:36.540
I did like, for my book tour, my sister and I have a podcast together, and that's what I
00:05:45.160
Was it a podcast or was it just straight up just you?
00:05:47.100
It was our show, but it's all improv because we're a user-submitted podcast, so we have
00:05:52.840
people in the audience submit stuff live, and then we read them backstage before we come
00:05:57.040
out, and then we choose five or six of them, and then we just kind of riff.
00:06:05.560
And I've seen some of your clips, too, where people get a little too confident.
00:06:10.180
You give them a mic, they start losing it a little bit.
00:06:12.080
But you never lose control, never let them hold the mic.
00:06:29.000
Do I have any fans who weren't going to kill themselves?
00:06:44.300
I've traveled with a couple other queens who have that.
00:06:46.820
Trixie and Katya, all their fans were going to kill themselves.
00:06:53.200
They're in the millions, and they are persistent.
00:06:58.800
When I posted Katya, when she was on my show that one time, like three years ago, and then
00:07:04.000
she turned back into a bat, and I haven't been able to catch her since.
00:07:06.760
When she was on the show, she posted a picture of us with the silliest cartoon filter on
00:07:11.640
it, and was like gabbing with the girls, like some shit like that.
00:07:20.080
Ten seconds later, I got tagged in like 20 Katya Trixie fan accounts.
00:07:25.700
All of them going, oh my god, Katya's going on the comment section.
00:07:27.860
The comment section is featuring Jerof, like literally on Twitter, on Instagram, on...
00:07:32.520
This is why they don't do meet and greets anymore.
00:07:50.540
No, someone had their foot amputated, and they brought the foot to the meet and greet
00:08:04.620
Well, see, that's what happens when you put Nosferatu in a wig.
00:08:40.380
And even if I'm allowed, I'm going to say it anyway.
00:08:44.840
When I went on tour last year, like, all summer, it was really fun.
00:08:52.060
And I'm finding out in my older age, as I get older, I really don't like leaving my house very often.
00:09:03.840
Whenever I do interview, it goes, where's the place you like to go?
00:09:16.560
I love to be home more than I love to be anywhere.
00:09:35.000
There's, like, three, maybe four cities in the world.
00:09:38.600
There's the one with the beach, the one with the trees, the one with the buildings, and
00:09:49.720
If you've been to Miami, you've been to Barcelona, you've been to...
00:09:56.220
If you've been to London, you've been to New York, you've been to Paris, they're just
00:10:01.400
And you know what's funny is when I went to London, I was like, this is New York, but
00:10:14.160
When I vacation, like, my idea of a vacation is going somewhere and doing nothing.
00:10:21.400
It's going and laying down and maybe tanning and maybe swimming.
00:10:33.800
White people are like, I'm going to go on a vacation.
00:10:46.140
I like to go to a place with a couple of friends, rent a giant Airbnb and never leave it.
00:10:55.000
For my sister's 30th birthday, like, two years ago, I rented this, like, old...
00:10:59.680
It was, like, an old hotel, but it had, like, nine bedrooms.
00:11:03.500
And it was, like, I just rented that, and then all our friends and family came and stayed
00:11:07.020
in one house, and we went out one singular night.
00:11:10.660
And the rest of the time, we played board games inside and canceled everything else we
00:11:20.780
And it's funny, because when we vacationed with, like, other people, we've been like,
00:11:26.840
I think we should establish what kind of vacation people we are.
00:11:31.000
Because the first time we went to Walt Disney World, we went with my cousin Josh and his
00:11:43.820
When I went with them, they had been there before, so we were excited to be there.
00:11:53.020
And the first day, we were like, okay, we'll try our best to keep up, like my family.
00:12:07.980
And then when we got back, we were getting on that little fucking train that takes you back
00:12:12.260
And we were getting on, and it's, like, 11 p.m., almost midnight.
00:12:16.180
And he's going, do you guys want to do, like, a rope drop tomorrow at the other thing?
00:12:30.740
Baby, if you tell me, if we're on vacation, and you tell me about 6 a.m. plans, I would rather
00:12:35.580
shit in my hands and clap in front of my face with my mouth open than go climb
00:12:58.800
I feel so validated and seen by you because I've been like, I don't need to do that because
00:13:06.340
And honestly, guys, often it looks just like it looks in the picture.
00:13:11.820
You might be like, oh, I thought it'd be bigger.
00:13:23.440
Also, when I went to Paris, they're so racist there.
00:13:36.420
You'd have to offer an absurd amount of money to give me.
00:13:44.020
The comments section, they're already typing in the name of this one specific country.
00:13:51.240
But I was doing a show in Zagreb, Croatia, and a guy from this country said, hey, you
00:13:59.520
You will never, in your linguine eating life, catch me back in Italy.
00:14:22.440
We had a really, really terrible experience in Paris with a restaurant that we made reservations
00:14:29.620
Mind you, when I was initially going to go to Paris, it was just going to be me, my fiance,
00:14:34.080
my cousin Adam, who does my hair and makeup, and then my sister.
00:14:38.740
I was like, going to a foreign country I've never been to before, especially one like that,
00:14:42.380
I'm going to need at least one resident white to lead the pack.
00:14:45.840
Right, so then my agent Alex comes, she's white, and we love her.
00:14:50.660
And so when we get, she's been to Paris before, so she kind of like helps us.
00:14:59.500
So she made reservations at this really nice restaurant that wasn't too far from us,
00:15:06.240
So we like walk there, and we're like 20 minutes early to the reservation,
00:15:10.120
because she's white, and she made us leave on time.
00:15:12.300
And so then we get there on time, and then the guy at the door, first of all, there's bouncers.
00:15:21.980
That's okay, but that kind of makes sense to me a little bit.
00:15:24.340
But also someone was murdered outside the Bossa Nova.
00:15:30.040
And they were the kind of bouncers that had a fucking blazer and no tie.
00:15:45.200
And there's like four of them outside, and then the guy looks at the group and goes,
00:15:53.120
Mind you, I can see inside the fucking restaurant, so I can see there are tables that are open.
00:15:57.200
And Alex, God love her, she's so sweet and innocent looking that she gets pushed around
00:16:10.200
And then he's like, no, I'm telling you right now, we don't have room.
00:16:17.860
And so then like when I went up and I go, what do you mean you're not taking reservations?
00:16:25.500
And then like this group of young white women come up who are Parisian.
00:16:29.860
I can hear them speaking French, smoking cigarettes, all that.
00:16:39.320
Like, as they're walking in, I'm like, are you fucking kidding me?
00:16:42.120
So then I took a picture of them and like the front of it.
00:16:45.240
And I put it on my story and I put it on TikTok and I said, hey, fuck this restaurant, by the way.
00:16:53.720
And then they started all of my, that's the one time I weaponized my fame for evil.
00:16:58.220
And they literally started spamming all their comments.
00:17:00.500
I didn't know you guys were fucking racist, blah, blah, blah.
00:17:07.100
But I was like, it was so unpleasant and awful.
00:17:44.680
Because if I get there and this straight security guard has no clue who I am.
00:18:00.420
And what's really embarrassing is when I don't mind like having to like get you by my name.
00:18:04.760
But then when someone else walks up who knows who I am.
00:18:13.400
And I'm like, I'm standing outside trying to get my fucking name.
00:18:31.320
I just want to be able to walk in and like do my thing.
00:18:42.640
When you were talking about never give them the mic in the audience.
00:18:48.280
Have you had any instances where you were like.
00:18:52.180
One is where they walk up to the mic and the mic is already there.
00:19:06.400
But also, I am comfortable being like, turn off their mic.
00:19:14.140
Cutting off the microphone is such a powerful move.
00:19:17.340
Because the person is just reduced to, like, what are you going to do now?
00:19:27.320
I like to be amplified in good light with my voice being heard and the audience sitting
00:19:33.960
I feel like there's a thing when you're, especially as a comedian or anyone on stage,
00:19:39.020
They're just a bunch of submissive little bitches who want to be told what to do.
00:19:46.200
They just, audiences naturally want to be, when I'm in the audience, I want to be submissive.
00:19:54.040
So when you're on stage, especially as a comedian, you have to be dominant.
00:19:57.600
Even if it's not you in your real life, you have to be a dominant force.
00:20:00.120
You have to guide the audience through this experience.
00:20:02.140
And if you don't have the control, they start to feel uncomfortable and they will rise against
00:20:16.220
When I was on, when I was on tour last year, like it, we started noticing this pattern
00:20:21.100
where like shows that are, which I'm sure you know, too, like Friday, Saturdays, like
00:20:27.580
And then they're a little more rowdy on those nights because they don't have to work,
00:20:32.580
And so like the first show we had where we kind of had a little bit of like too much
00:20:38.560
raucous laughter that was turning into talking was in Florida, right?
00:20:45.800
And so the show's going great, but then there's like two huge bars in the venue we're in.
00:20:51.720
And so you can hear the bartenders going, like scooping ice and going, yeah, can I get
00:21:00.260
Like you can hear people making a blending drink, blending a margarita and all that.
00:21:05.740
It was funny because in the beginning I, I, I would ask a question.
00:21:09.680
The joke I would make is like, thank you all for coming out.
00:21:14.740
I would always say plus ones, like have no idea who the fuck we are.
00:21:17.260
I should have known this was a red herring because the bartender goes right here, like
00:21:24.440
And he goes, yeah, I go, yeah, I wasn't talking to you.
00:21:26.600
Anyone else who's actually bought a ticket for the fucking show.
00:21:29.260
I should have known that that was going to go left.
00:21:35.860
I'm like, aren't you supposed to be serving those hundreds of people over there?
00:21:37.980
So then as the show goes on, people start getting more drunk.
00:21:41.120
Like when we do audience participation, like we'll read the cards, read their stories, and
00:21:46.160
I'll ask them questions and then they'll answer them, whatever.
00:21:48.680
However, as like my sister is like talking to one of the audience members about her story,
00:21:53.220
there's people in the fucking back who are talking, laughing, like contributing to the
00:21:58.560
story, like trying to get bits out, like whatever.
00:22:00.720
And it's becoming distracting along with the bartenders.
00:22:10.800
Me and my buddy, the bartender, we were having a long night.
00:22:13.880
And I remember at this point, I was at my limit already because I was already annoyed
00:22:18.820
that the talking was happening and it was slowly getting louder.
00:22:23.100
It was making people forget what they were saying.
00:22:25.620
It was interrupting my sister and I got pissed.
00:22:38.460
I said that and I go, can you guys shut the fuck up?
00:22:40.840
Because other people are talking and you're being really fucking rude.
00:22:52.780
And then it took me a while to get them to come back.
00:22:56.840
Yeah, well, and then I did that and then I scared them.
00:22:59.800
So then no one's laughing anymore because they're all like, and then I'm like, hey,
00:23:06.660
You have to have prepared bits on how to deal with an audience member.
00:23:09.820
And for the most part, you know, I've been doing stand up now for 16 years.
00:23:14.040
And for like eight years of it, it was in the gay bars, which is just loud, rowdy, drunk.
00:23:20.120
Everyone in the audience thinks they're funnier than you, better than you, can wear your dress
00:23:23.500
And I'm like, I mean, I was used to dealing with really raucous, raucous people.
00:23:27.700
They were just wanting to argue, wanting to challenge me.
00:23:30.520
So I've built some really good chops for dealing with hecklers.
00:23:33.600
But for the most part, my audience is, I've gotten pretty good at keeping control.
00:23:37.100
And also when you like scold your subs, when the Dom, you know, scolds her subs, you have
00:23:44.520
to do it in a way that is in the spirit of the show.
00:23:50.060
Or else they're like, oh my God, you know, mommy just yelled at us.
00:24:14.460
And the next day, like we had another Florida show in a different city and then it was same
00:24:25.840
I did have to quell that really quickly, but I did it before I got to a point where I couldn't
00:24:35.780
And then I feel like I'm like, run, before I like turn into a psycho.
00:24:40.080
I feel like I'm pretty good at keeping it pretty even-keeled.
00:24:42.680
And I think that the audience should have a healthy fear of the person on stage.
00:24:48.260
They need to be a little bit afraid of what would happen if they step out of line.
00:24:52.460
Sometimes you do have to make an example of someone.
00:24:55.400
I did that too many times on tour, but that is also another one of those, like, because
00:24:59.980
I did get a question once, I think it was from a man, and he asked me something.
00:25:07.020
That felt like he was kind of trying to big time me a little bit.
00:25:12.780
Kind of like he was trying to flex or peacock around me.
00:25:16.060
Like he was trying to be like, so like, yeah, what's that about?
00:25:22.420
Like, are you asking me like, why do I do that to people like you?
00:25:30.080
I just like, I meant like, actually, I meant, and he just changed his question.
00:25:33.080
This is the only kind of guy who asked for extra protein at Chipotle.
00:25:36.200
You know, can I get a, let me get the KCA, can I get extra protein?
00:25:51.820
And then, first of all, I had a wardrobe malfunction.
00:25:55.240
My wig just like started, like, there's this like post on my wig, and I put the toppers on it.
00:26:01.920
I had this like base where my hair slicked up, and I would just switch toppers out.
00:26:05.280
And the post had broken, so my wig just fell off.
00:26:10.780
And then I come back, and I'm doing my stand-up, and there is just a fight happening.
00:26:15.460
And I was like, I don't remember what's happening over there, but they weren't responding to me,
00:26:18.180
because they weren't responding to what I was saying.
00:26:19.620
There was just an argument had broken out between this lady and this guy,
00:26:25.800
They were like, people were being pulled apart.
00:26:39.680
And then I asked him, I said, is this a, it was a Wednesday.
00:26:45.100
I said, is this a typical Wednesday in Belfast?
00:26:51.380
And they're like, yeah, this is what we do on Wednesdays, bitch.
00:26:54.660
Whenever I go out, I don't drink, so I don't go out much.
00:26:59.340
Someone who wants to take you out, they're like, because let me tell you right now,
00:27:02.660
Because, baby, let me tell you right now, in Belfast, we drink, honey.
00:27:06.260
Baby, let me tell you right now, in Phoenix, Arizona, we drink, honey.
00:27:15.540
Every town thinks they drink more than everyone else.
00:27:24.460
They were, on a Wednesday night, turnt, going crazy.
00:27:34.240
I started getting, like, towards the end of tour, I started getting a little petty.
00:27:37.740
Because, like, if the shows, they would always go well.
00:27:40.340
But, like, if the audience was kind of, like, a little too rowdy.
00:27:44.520
Like, there was another show we had where it was a Friday.
00:27:50.480
Like, literally tell them, like, if you guys make noise one more time, you're going to have to leave.
00:27:54.040
And it's because they had, like, a tabletop and they were like, I think what I hate more than just, like, talking in the background, because it's a live fucking show, is people trying to tell jokes, too.
00:28:06.460
Yeah, like, they're trying to, like, pull focus kind of deal.
00:28:08.640
And I was like, that's tea because you bought a ticket to watch me and now you're talking a lot and that's crazy.
00:28:13.980
They're like, this is going to be the moment where, like, Drew hears me tell a joke and she's going to say, are you iconic?
00:28:29.080
I will float to the sky and I will take over the podcast.
00:28:36.900
And can I just say, because maybe you can relate to me on this.
00:28:40.080
There was a point where, like, with meet and greets where there was a pattern happening where women who would come who maybe weren't familiar with my other show with my sister or my sister only came to see me, which I'm not, like, mad about it.
00:28:53.020
But, like, they were always really rude to my sister in meet and greets, which would piss me off.
00:28:58.220
And then they were always dressed up really nice, like, which is not a bad thing.
00:29:03.420
But they were wearing, like, like, fucking bandage dresses or some shit like that and heels and all that.
00:29:09.660
And the way they would talk to me would be, like, I just, like, oh, God, you're so beautiful.
00:29:17.900
I just feel like if I was going to be gay, like, I would like you, which is homophobic to say.
00:29:30.120
Sometimes they bring their husbands, their boyfriends, whatever.
00:29:33.920
At one time, well, yeah, but one time I went backstage and I go, are these bitches shaving their pussy for me?
00:29:38.980
Because you're starting to treat me like Justin Bieber and I don't like that.
00:29:44.380
Yeah, I was like, hey, hey, hey, you know what?
00:29:50.460
Which, like, it's always women who have to tell me 35 times, I'm straight, I'm straight.
00:30:03.300
They, you have a lesbian energy and I think part of it is how tall you are.
00:30:15.960
If there's big, big lesbians clean the fuck up.
00:30:27.900
If somebody can get over six feet and you're in the lesbian community, you're about to be knocking it away with a baseball bat.
00:30:36.480
And, like, women who came who were lesbians and made sure to tell us, like, they were fans of both of us and the show that we had together.
00:30:47.160
It's only straight women who are doing that to me, which is crazy.
00:30:53.260
Yeah, I was, like, you guys are, it's so, I'm, like, don't, don't hold, put your hand across my stomach, like, for prom dates.
00:31:00.880
Have you ever thought about roughing up anyone, like, sexually?
00:31:07.080
I've been asked that question more times than you could possibly imagine, but no, I haven't.
00:31:13.080
No, because that doesn't really appeal to me, if I'm being honest.
00:31:16.300
Yeah, like, when I, and also, and this is maybe just the sick and twisted part of my brain, that brings them joy and pleasure.
00:31:28.620
But to some extent, they enjoy it, like sadism.
00:31:34.020
I'm saying, like, I want to hurt your feelings.
00:31:45.020
And people like to be roughed up by a big lady.
00:31:53.080
What was the name of that bodybuilding documentary with the lady who was, like.
00:32:02.060
Did she, like, kill someone or did she got killed?
00:32:07.160
Well, she got big because she was making videos of her, like, wrestling dudes.
00:32:13.300
So, that's, like, it was, like, OnlyFans before OnlyFans.
00:32:16.660
Yeah, and she was making videos of herself wrestling the fuck out of them.
00:32:21.120
Like, she's yoked and on a bunch of roids and all that.
00:32:24.280
So, she's, like, literally looks like an old-timey, like.
00:32:30.580
Yeah, so, she was, like, wrestling dudes for money.
00:32:37.960
These women are projecting their sexual fantasies onto you.
00:32:48.680
That are saying, like, can you call me a dirty little boy and, like, say I'm worthless and blah, blah, blah.
00:33:02.740
When I read that request, I went in my Cameo, turned it off.
00:33:20.200
I'm just like, you're such a dumb little fucking boy.
00:33:22.500
I have mac and cheese, and I'm just going like this.
00:33:27.400
Taco Bell has this new burrito that you can rip in half.
00:33:34.780
I'm going to go ahead and say, it's clear to me, Taco Bell is just reselling the same
00:33:51.060
But because that thing tastes good, I'm going to keep eating it.
00:33:55.960
I just, they really figure something out of it.
00:34:02.000
I hate when people are like, well, that's not real Mexican food.
00:34:07.020
I know that 16-year-old white kid on Accutane is not serving me traditional cantina food.
00:34:17.140
Mexicans like Taco Bell, so I don't feel bad about it.
00:34:22.620
This is a great video of, it's one of those like, what's the one they used to make the
00:34:31.700
And it's like Chinese people trying Panda Express.
00:34:37.700
Well, so interesting was all the young people, like 25 and under, were like, oh, this is not
00:34:46.520
All the old people were like, it's not Chinese food, but this is delicious.
00:34:51.920
We can allow two things to be true at the same time.
00:34:54.340
They were like, I don't know what the fuck this is, but this is really fucking good.
00:34:56.600
They're like, this is not Chinese, but it is delicious.
00:34:59.420
All the young folks were like, I could never eat this.
00:35:03.260
You need to try my grandma's, like blah, blah, blah.
00:35:13.800
But I'm going to have a nacho belgarnese next time I come back.
00:35:17.240
And I also know that you hate British food like I do.
00:35:22.520
Did you see that they were trying to fuck up Keith Lee recently?
00:35:25.540
Look, Keith Lee, I think he might be untouchable.
00:35:31.540
He always comes out smelling like roses, no matter how much shit you throw at him.
00:35:34.460
He seems to rise above it every single fucking time.
00:35:40.360
Well, I do know why, because it's the nature of the internet.
00:35:42.300
But I just think you should leave him the fuck alone.
00:35:45.260
But also, I saw people getting pissed, and then I jumped in on it, because I was like,
00:35:50.060
I can't even tell you how many British people were mad at me when I was making fun of their
00:35:56.840
Girl, the way they're like, well, you gotta have salty, mashy peas on the side.
00:36:04.180
And I was like, I didn't say I need a different kind of peas.
00:36:07.000
I said, if you put them next to my french fries one more goddamn time, I'm gonna burn
00:36:17.240
And you're not gonna sell me on beans on toast.
00:36:26.280
And then you get there, and they always go, well, you know we have really amazing Indian
00:36:35.340
And it's not British, I could tell you that much.
00:36:37.020
That's made by Indians, and the immigrants came here and made this food.
00:36:45.340
And I started getting ones that were like, well, that's because you fucking Americans
00:36:50.820
And I was like, and maybe you guys need some of that shit.
00:36:55.880
One time I bought a pack of Doritos from America, and I gave them to a Brit, and they were
00:37:05.980
Yes, American food is full of preservatives, 100%.
00:37:11.600
That's why I was like, maybe you guys need some of that shit.
00:37:13.640
And I'm like, what about your, how long you guys live?
00:37:18.640
Sometimes I think to myself, like, how long do you want to do this?
00:37:23.960
I feel like immortality is a curse more than anything.
00:37:27.200
One of the biggest reasons why I got out of being religious is because, like, the idea
00:37:35.980
I have to do some version of this for all, like, let's imagine, let's imagine that I
00:37:41.740
And I go to heaven, and I'm looking down at my nephew and my, if I have kids, that's
00:37:47.440
I'm looking at my kids and my nephew, I'm watching over them.
00:38:02.100
You said it's just kind of the same stuff over and over again.
00:38:08.580
They were like, I know my grandma's watching down to me.
00:38:26.220
I want to just, I want the, you know, the TV, I want that.
00:38:38.020
You know what I've thought about before that really kind of scares me?
00:38:40.320
What if, and this is a crazy if, there's a couple of theories out there about other life
00:38:49.320
And most scientists agree there is more than likely some life form somewhere in the world.
00:39:08.780
There's other worlds like they're, one that I like more is like they are so advanced.
00:39:12.080
They're looking at us like they were ants basically.
00:39:13.480
Why would you, why would you bother calling it advanced?
00:39:17.200
Like that's more comforting than being like this might be as far as humanity's gotten.
00:39:24.880
I think it would be extra scary to think that this is as far as we've taken it.
00:39:29.560
And there's also another theory too that some other planets in some other place, even if they're in the same galaxy or if they're in galaxies nearby, it's just that their time in life was so long ago.
00:39:44.620
They maybe had a whole thriving civilization for like billions of years.
00:39:53.940
And also, you know, when you, the space is crazy.
00:40:07.900
Because people in the bottom of the earth, they're pointing in the opposite direction.
00:40:20.520
Thinking about infinite things like that, that could like, like just loops that could never
00:40:26.580
It freaks me out when I think about it too much.
00:40:38.840
It depends on what's on the other side, I guess.
00:40:41.560
So apparently when you go into a black hole, there's something called the event horizon
00:40:49.400
Is that kind of what happens in Interstellar when he like has to go into the black hole?
00:40:55.160
So the event horizon, once you reach the event horizon, you cannot go back.
00:40:58.180
Because the black hole is just pulling in matter.
00:41:05.500
And if your body goes into, you go into something called spaghettification, where your body is
00:41:12.000
And then it gets to a point where you are in the black hole and you are frozen.
00:41:15.500
Time is being perceived completely differently for you because there's so much mass and matter
00:41:28.640
So if you go through the middle part, you'll end up on the other side, which is a white
00:41:32.240
And on the other side, there's allegedly an entire other universe on the other side.
00:41:39.540
If you can survive it, if you can survive it, that would be fucking awesome.
00:41:49.020
It drives me crazy that I'm never going to know what's over there.
00:41:59.920
I used to spend hours as a child trying to figure out.
00:42:03.680
Trying to figure out how to travel to the speed of light.
00:42:06.120
If you can make a matter that's lighter than light, then the light can propel this thing
00:42:18.700
How do you make your body lighter than light itself?
00:42:22.400
Because I think light does actually weigh something.
00:42:25.160
So the light can actually move the object and push it through space and time.
00:42:34.460
I don't even know what a fucking Earth year is.
00:42:46.820
I can't think about it too long or I'll go crazy.
00:42:49.320
Yeah, your whole explanation of traveling faster than the speed of light, you thinking
00:42:53.900
about that as a child is kind of shocking to me.
00:43:02.460
In another world, I would have been some sort of a scientist who dealt with space.
00:43:09.500
Instead, I'm just a bitch with a lot of opinions who wears a wig and lets a scream.
00:43:13.880
No, but I love that you have such a love of space.
00:43:19.400
Especially how small and insignificant Earth is, even in our own solar system.
00:43:26.440
Yeah, because I feel like when you think about space in that regard and you think about how
00:43:30.080
insignificant so many things are, there's a freedom in that.
00:43:34.040
Because it's like, and I feel like you live your life like that.
00:43:38.640
And that's why you've been so successful and inspirational.
00:43:43.580
Like, as if it really doesn't matter in the grand scheme.
00:43:46.860
So, I'm going to do what I love and what makes me happy.
00:43:49.240
I remember standing in Manhattan and feeling so small because Manhattan felt so big.
00:44:01.880
And then I realized that Manhattan can fit into Long Island like over 50 times.
00:44:08.820
And then Earth can fit into the sun like a thousand times over.
00:44:14.640
And then there's suns that are like, we are so tiny.
00:44:21.800
And we, that's why when I used to wait tables and I would get in the weeds and I forgot
00:44:29.420
When you forget to put someone's food in, the panic that sets into your, the panic that
00:44:34.220
goes in your heart, I didn't put their food in.
00:44:36.820
And then I remember thinking to myself, no one, I used to work in a place called the Jekyll
00:44:42.540
And I remember thinking to myself, you know what?
00:44:45.660
No one's like, I am literally on the verge of death.
00:44:52.280
And I bet, and that waiter better not have forgotten to put my food in.
00:44:54.500
So now I thought to myself, no one here is starving.
00:45:00.880
I wish, I feel like that's the absence of anxiety.
00:45:04.180
But then I get a little too nihilistic sometimes.
00:45:17.400
Do you have any other niche interests like that, like space?
00:45:23.120
I grew up watching WWF so long ago that it was called the WWF.
00:45:31.260
I can't believe that my mom didn't believe that when they said I was autistic.
00:45:40.040
Meanwhile, you're calculating the weight of light in your room.
00:45:42.780
So you can try and run faster than the speed of light.
00:45:45.740
And you have a fucking WWE championship belt on.
00:45:50.940
I made one myself out of tinfoil and cardboard.
00:45:53.620
I wanted to be Mankind or The Rock or D'Lo Brown or Farouk or The Undertaker.
00:46:01.840
But I wanted it more than I wanted my next breath.
00:46:04.220
So when I was a kid, I thought that my job was going to be, I was going to grow up to either
00:46:11.600
Well, Nikki Garcia, who's on my season of The Traitors, she's getting back into wrestling.
00:46:22.880
They have people do stuff all the time for them.
00:46:25.160
If anyone's watching out there, Nikki Garcia, I'm begging.
00:46:28.260
I'm literally humbling myself because nothing matters.
00:46:34.580
You know what's funny is a lot of Samoan people love WWE.
00:46:44.720
I think we just, I think some when people find joy in it because you get to hurt people
00:46:53.320
It's some of the most remarkable storytelling in the history of time.
00:46:57.220
It is a play or a TV show that happens in real time.
00:47:06.660
Once the episode ends, next week the episode airs and it's only been five minutes for them.
00:47:12.440
But it's been a week for you when you are on wrestling, when the show finished airing,
00:47:21.640
You are living your lives in real time with these fictional characters at the same time.
00:47:27.380
It's really, and it's just, it's so fantastical.
00:47:50.580
And I had to explain to some of my other friends.
00:47:53.560
I had to explain my friend about his like signature move when he like puts his big fat ass on people.
00:48:06.960
Like, it's like, what if I just slam my big fat ass on them?
00:48:18.560
I will say Roman Reigns, I've been trying to get on my show for a while.
00:48:25.080
If I'm being honest, like my fiance gets compared to Jason Momoa a lot.
00:48:28.260
But I think he looks so much like Roman Reigns.
00:48:30.820
Like, they look almost identical compared to Jason Momoa.
00:48:34.380
But like, now when I see him, I'm like a little weird.
00:48:40.060
And then my fiance had the blonde in his hair for a little bit.
00:48:48.400
I never met John Cena, but I met his ex-girlfriend, Nikki Garcia.
00:48:51.600
So I, like John Cena, I interviewed at the Argyle premiere that was like in London.
00:48:56.980
That was when I went to London for the first time.
00:48:58.860
And one of my fun questions I cleared through Universal and they were cool with, which I was glad.
00:49:02.860
I was like, each of the characters I talked to, I asked like if one of the characters they're known for could beat Argyle in like hand-to-hand fight.
00:49:11.560
So I said, WWE John Cena and Argyle, like, who do you think's winning?
00:49:16.560
And he's like, well, Argyle has all those fucking tools.
00:49:25.260
I could barely see you when you first walked up.
00:49:27.740
And then he literally was like, no tools at all.
00:49:48.460
I gotta say, there are so many remarkable stories you can tell of wrestlers.
00:50:17.240
There are so many WWE people have the craziest lore.
00:50:30.640
Because one of my favorite scenes in that movie is when, you know, they take the shit
00:50:36.040
And then Ric Flair comes in and he's like, oh, man, that was fucking awesome.
00:50:42.980
And I was thinking, it's just never that serious to him.
00:50:51.560
So, real tea is, I famously called Zac Efron, I mean, Zac Efron a bad actor on TV.
00:50:59.300
I was with his brother on The Traders and he goes, I grew up with an actor.
00:51:07.820
I didn't really have any strong opinions about Zac Efron's acting.
00:51:14.860
And then Dolores was like, oh, that's not nice.
00:51:19.780
So, I had this whole thing and then everyone's talking to me like, have you seen Iron Claw?
00:51:25.580
And to be clear, I don't think Zac Efron was bad in Iron Claw.
00:51:30.140
As a lover of the WWF, you would prefer to see another story.
00:51:41.500
Mick Foley used to film himself doing these crazy hardcore stunts.
00:51:48.560
He would like jump off his roof onto tables and break them and be like, cast me in the
00:51:53.940
And that got so famous that they had to start sitting up and being like, hey guys, do not
00:52:24.480
Which is the same energy you can get as a stuntman.
00:52:27.100
But also, stuntmen don't work like three, two shows a week for 20 years.
00:52:33.880
I've seen someone call WWE Broadway for stupid people, which like.
00:52:40.180
In terms of like costumes, character, pageantry, like all of that.
00:52:44.400
I love how they stay in character even when they do.
00:52:51.780
Like they keep this fake beef alive and sometimes it's real, sometimes it's not.
00:53:02.580
Jim Carrey played him in the film Man on the Moon, Man on the Moon.
00:53:07.260
So Jerry Lawler slapped the shit out of Andy Kaufman on live TV.
00:53:13.120
Because Andy Kaufman kept being like, it's fake.
00:53:14.600
And Andy Kaufman might have been in it, but he slapped the.
00:53:20.560
He slapped this man on live TV on a late night show because he kept calling it fake.
00:53:25.840
And then Jerry Lawler goes, oh, you want to see how fake it is?
00:53:29.420
There was another guy one time who choked out some interview.
00:53:37.440
Back in the day, they really protected that it was, that it was staged.
00:53:41.380
And one guy was like, oh, you want to see how hard it is?
00:53:44.020
And then he was like, he was like, yeah, put me in a chokehold.
00:53:54.680
They're imprisoned by their own toxic masculinity.
00:54:03.780
Oh, and they're also wearing these like slutty little outfits.
00:54:27.120
Well, there's, and there's a duo in the WWF still now that's called the Usos, which are like,
00:54:32.500
they're two brothers and Uso means brother and someone.
00:54:40.460
And I'm like, I know so much about WWE solely because like my culture just really loves that.
00:54:51.640
I'm going to get my way into WWE at some point.
00:55:02.720
When I tell you these are the largest people you've ever seen in your life.
00:55:15.880
Like me and John Cena were around the same height.
00:55:37.880
Can you Google how tall Christian the wrestler?
00:55:59.720
Because I want to do the shit talking on the camera.
00:56:29.160
If I get it, I really want you at one of the matches.
00:56:37.660
I've only been to one wrestling match in real life.
00:56:45.900
And I remember thinking, I remember Kevin Nash kind of like walked near me.
00:56:52.000
And I think to myself like, this might be the largest man I've ever seen in my life.
00:57:26.480
They probably do it in the Kia Forum or something.
00:57:36.160
I'm going to be cheering when the Undertaker comes.
00:58:27.920
They're like, I need you to send a Netflix to this person.
00:58:35.180
So there's a new Netflix movie coming out soon called The Lifeless.
00:58:38.860
And it's about a young woman who is sent on a quest by her late mother to complete her
00:58:42.880
teenage life list, which is like a bucket list.
00:58:48.560
So in the spirit of the life list, we're going to talk about our own bucket list.
00:58:52.700
And I want to know what you used to have on your bucket list that you've already checked
00:58:56.380
off and what you still want to accomplish that you haven't crossed out yet.
00:59:18.240
I would love to join the ranks of you and become a New York Times bestseller.
00:59:26.320
It is one of the best things I've ever written in my life.
00:59:28.360
Writing prose is so much different than writing, you know, jokes and poems and raps.
00:59:34.120
I don't know how long it took you to write your book, but it took me an embarrassingly
00:59:39.040
I want you to go first because I don't want to.
00:59:41.300
I think I wrote the whole thing and probably like, I would say like a year, like four years.
00:59:53.300
That sounds like to me, that sounds like you care a lot about it.
01:00:08.600
So that's why I said, yeah, I didn't do any of that shit when I was writing mine.
01:00:13.720
Because you're a lot more famous and busy than me.
01:00:21.120
You're a different stage of life because you're so much older.
01:00:37.700
And also, wow, what a list you've already crossed off.
01:00:42.780
To do a world tour with the Queen of Pop, I never.
01:00:50.120
I was like, oh, wow, the list is updating itself.
01:01:03.320
And honestly, what I really love about working with her, she really respects me as an artist.
01:01:06.500
Sometimes as a drag queen, people are like, come here and read me and host my brunch.
01:01:11.920
I'm like, girl, if you think I'm at a point in my career where I'm hosting your fucking brunch at, you know, Marie's Pickle Shack, you've lost your fucking mind.
01:01:22.380
But Madonna, like she didn't, I was, even without having to advocate for it, I had roles in the show that were in drag, roles that were out of drag.
01:01:31.920
So, like, I got to be there with Madonna creating a 40-year retrospective on her iconic work.
01:01:44.080
And that's, and you're right, because, like, a lot of times what people know you for, they tend to pigeonhole you.
01:01:48.780
Like, even indirectly sometimes, they, like, they kind of are like, I know what you mean.
01:01:53.140
Like, why don't you come down here and read me, queen?
01:01:56.880
All the time, but it's almost, it's more so just like, oh, speaking of books, right?
01:02:01.480
Like, the few reviews I've ever seen about my book that weren't, they weren't bad reviews.
01:02:05.300
They were just like, um, I give this three stars or I give this four stars.
01:02:11.340
And the reviews sound almost exactly the same, which is they say things like, I don't know.
01:02:17.940
And I also thought you were going to, like, teach me how to make fun of men.
01:02:21.860
I bet you were going to, like, give me, like, insult ideas.
01:02:24.340
And I'm like, how the fuck would I put that in a book?
01:02:25.940
I'm already giving you hours and hours and hours of TikTok.
01:02:30.840
But it's literally, like, it's white women telling, like, white straight cis women telling me,
01:02:41.600
I was like, your intersectionality is more advanced than mine?
01:02:47.660
You can't tell someone who thinks they know everything.
01:02:49.720
That's why I was, like, and it always ends with, I thought you were going to teach me
01:02:55.440
I'm trying to teach you how to fucking rip them out of your brain stem.
01:02:59.820
I'm not trying to teach you how to, like, it's just like, if you just tell me how to,
01:03:03.960
like, tell them they have little dicks and stuff.
01:03:10.080
But also, my idea of an insult to a man is not something like that, because I feel like
01:03:23.220
I feel like it's one of those where I'm like, my idea of insulting them doesn't involve
01:03:28.440
really low-brow shit like that, because that's not funny to me.
01:03:31.340
I was like, do you want to make fun of them, or do you want to live up here?
01:03:36.320
Because that's the difference between you and I.
01:03:41.900
And she's really, really interested in being very, very PC.
01:03:45.800
So she was like, at this roast, when you go to a roast, the point is, like, the gloves
01:03:53.020
Everyone in the room who's watching is consenting.
01:03:54.380
Everyone who is getting roasted, we're all consenting to it.
01:03:59.480
But Jinx is like, I don't want to participate in that, so I'm just going to, I'm not going
01:04:04.380
to do any jokes about anyone's physical appearance or their race or anything like that.
01:04:08.080
So instead, what she thought was a better take was to do just deep personal attacks on
01:04:33.200
Your friends don't feel comfortable around you.
01:04:38.200
You leave and have a couple phone calls to make.
01:04:42.480
And the fact that she thought that would hurt less is crazy to me.
01:04:50.980
Okay, well, I think your bucket list is wonderful.
01:04:55.560
And on my bucket list, I really want to be cast in something as like, I want to be principal
01:05:04.820
cast in something, whether it's a movie or a TV show.
01:05:12.120
Well, there's plays where you don't have to act.
01:05:15.280
I could do, but then if there's no music, what's the fucking point?
01:05:21.980
No, I like straight theater, but yeah, I understand.
01:05:26.440
I think it's just I feel like a hater because I can't sing, so that's probably why.
01:05:31.720
I moved to New York City to become a famous Broadway actor.
01:05:34.940
Imagine my shock when I got there to realize you got to be able to sing and dance to be
01:05:39.360
How dumb did I feel getting sent out of every call?
01:05:46.920
You should have said that before I bought my fucking ticket to this town.
01:05:49.520
That would have been nice to know when I was living in Columbus, Georgia, literally.
01:05:57.400
You know, you got to become friends with a casting director.
01:06:00.340
But the more I've talked about acting with my friends in the business who have been in things
01:06:05.660
and acted in things, whatever, so many of them have told me it's like truly just like
01:06:11.980
So like one of my friends told me that she's been in the room with showrunners as like a
01:06:15.320
writer and stuff and she's like when they're casting and they'll watch the first like
01:06:19.660
10 seconds of someone's self-tape or slate or whatever.
01:06:28.320
Which to me, honestly, I feel like it gives me a lot of like freedom in it because I'm
01:06:36.160
When I moved to next year, I remember auditioning for, I can't remember any names today.
01:06:42.540
The Audrey McDonald play that she did is written by Aaron's and Flaherty, Ragtime.
01:06:47.780
And they do this thing where before you give them your headshot, before you give them your
01:06:53.620
resume, you all just stand in a line and they just go, no, no, yes, no, no, no, no, yes.
01:07:01.900
And then they trim it down and then they look at your resume.
01:07:05.120
Do you imagine how hurt I was when I showed up dressed like a fucking, like I was wearing
01:07:11.100
I was like, I'm going to, they're going to pick me.
01:07:13.560
I had on these, I was, I looked like I was in fucking Ragtime, the musical, and they
01:07:17.120
looked me in my beautiful 22 year old brown eyes and said, no, and I had to walk onto the
01:07:22.820
streets of New York and take the train back to Queens.
01:07:30.160
They just decided up front, you know, one of my biggest, um, when I first moved to LA
01:07:37.600
So before we get into that story, the, the life list is starring Sophia Carson, Connie
01:07:44.740
And the life list premieres only on Netflix, March 28th.
01:07:50.700
So I moved to LA because I, I moved here for a boy.
01:08:01.020
I would, I would, I would, I would have done a lot for him and I did do a lot for him.
01:08:06.240
I, I told myself it was because I got a small starring role on Lucifer, which I did do.
01:08:11.180
I got a role on Lucifer and I was like, I'm moving for this.
01:08:15.700
Baby, you don't, you don't move for, to be a day player.
01:08:18.320
I, I, I was more than a day player, but I had, I had, I had like two or three scenes.
01:08:23.600
But then I was like, I was here, I was doing the audition thing.
01:08:26.020
I got, I actually got cast in a show as a principal actor on Fox.
01:08:33.020
I had never had, I was like, this is crazy for me.
01:08:35.880
It was a show called, uh, it was a show about dancing and it was called, I can't remember
01:08:49.420
Uh, it was a show about creating a reality TV show about dancing.
01:09:00.580
It was a beautiful offer and I had to say no because I was doing, we're here on HBO.
01:09:06.600
It was, they were filming the pilot when I was filming one of our episodes.
01:09:11.340
And I, I was like, I cannot believe that I got cast in a show and I had to actually say
01:09:20.420
Then I went back and I watched, I didn't watch, I watched the first two episodes and
01:09:23.920
I watched the trailer and the guy they have, who's apparently a really, really great actor
01:09:37.540
And he's probably out there scooping, he's probably out there still scooping up all the
01:09:41.800
He's getting, girl, was there another guy in here before me?
01:09:44.780
That was a guy right here looking just like me.
01:09:57.820
I mean, you have any tips for me as far as auditions go?
01:10:02.180
First of all, I know this sounds like crazy, but in the open, when you slate, be yourself.
01:10:08.980
Some people like, some people want to, want to, uh, neutralize themselves so they can
01:10:13.600
But for some of us who are, uh, not famous for our acting, we're often being cast because of
01:10:25.420
They want to see that personality before you get into the acting scene.
01:10:29.340
Because more than likely, if you're being called in for a role, that character is probably
01:10:38.600
But I remember when I was going to ask you this too, because I've talked to a few of my
01:10:43.100
friends about it who are auditioning for stuff, but like one of the reads I did,
01:10:47.220
it felt almost like, cause I, I, they liked my tape.
01:10:51.880
They asked me to do a live read with like casting directors, whatever.
01:10:56.700
And so I go and I do the live read and they asked me to just read three different scenes.
01:11:02.320
They told me I didn't have to memorize them that I could just read them off the thing just
01:11:05.120
to like act them as I, as if I wouldn't, it's all on zoom.
01:11:09.140
And as I go through the first two, like they're, they're, they're laughing.
01:11:16.260
And then she goes, can you do it again, but do it a little more like in your face.
01:11:27.380
Like, like if it were you and they said something and then you respond in like, you're like sassy
01:11:35.640
way, like the way she was saying it, I was like, can you do this?
01:11:41.080
That's why when she said it, I was like, you want to call me a slur and you can't.
01:11:46.960
You, you probably, if you said that, you probably got cast.
01:11:49.100
She was like, oh, that's what I was looking for.
01:11:55.860
And then I, I called, I remember I called Caleb after, cause I knew I didn't get it.
01:12:00.440
Cause I felt like that threw me off a little bit and I did do it the way they wanted and
01:12:03.820
they laughed, but I, I kind of figured, cause they asked me for that note a couple more
01:12:07.420
times and I was like, okay, you're looking for someone else.
01:12:10.120
I feel like, and I felt, and then I was like, did you guys even like my tape or did you
01:12:14.460
just think maybe she'll be more urban when she's in person?
01:12:25.460
And then it feels like, and then I was, I was telling him the reason why it bothers
01:12:28.640
me is cause I was like, is that why you picked me?
01:12:31.480
Like, cause you thought like, I'm just like this, like, and another thing, which like,
01:12:42.580
He goes, you know how many auditions I've done when they're like, can you do it a little
01:12:47.780
Like he was like, they want to say that to me so bad, but they can't.
01:13:07.720
They're like, I want you to be that level of gay.
01:13:09.700
Like it, that he was like, that happens all the time.
01:13:16.960
They'll probably haven't asked you to do an accent yet.
01:13:21.520
And I, I, when I felt, heard it from him and I'm hearing it from you, it makes me feel
01:13:25.720
a little bit better about it, but it did bother me.
01:13:27.580
Cause I was like, cause I remember the last time you were here, I told you sometimes when
01:13:30.960
lines are written for me, they feel like almost like bad SNL impressions of me.
01:13:37.060
And I told you when they imitate me, they're almost always imitating the wrong race.
01:13:44.620
They're like, well, we're going to have you play this Filipino woman.
01:13:47.520
That's why I'm like, and then I started thinking, I said, maybe my slate, maybe I should start
01:13:53.900
I think you should honestly probably do write your own thing.
01:13:57.060
That's honestly, at this point, that's what it's looking like.
01:14:01.840
And that way you can write how you want to sound.
01:14:05.520
And because of your level of celebrity, it's easy for you to get in the rooms or at least
01:14:10.180
so obviously you want to pitch to a production company and the production will pitch to a
01:14:14.240
But if you can get a deal with a production company who believes in you, who believes in
01:14:17.500
your project and what it is you want to do, that way you're doing the roles you really
01:14:21.900
I know, and I've been thinking about that a lot lately too, because I feel like it's
01:14:26.540
hard to, because I know, I've told people before, when I've talked about going into acting,
01:14:30.940
sometimes people online will be like, I fucking hate when TikTokers, like, I'm like, you guys
01:14:35.040
have no idea what we've been wanting to do, a lot of us.
01:14:43.560
But I've said before, the internet is such a tool for people who are marginalized that would
01:14:49.580
Like, this is the only way to get people to pay attention to us.
01:14:52.080
So when I've talked about it in that vein, I've been like, the roles that I want to be,
01:14:57.600
I want to be cast in roles that are not solely reliant on, like, looks, which obviously they
01:15:02.940
are, but I don't want them to be such a small box.
01:15:05.320
Like, a lot of times I'm like, I am a big bitch, I'm a tall bitch, like, I'm a brown
01:15:09.860
Like, there's lots of things about me that stick out, so that's why I'm like, at this
01:15:13.360
point, it seems like I'm going to have to write my own shit.
01:15:18.020
And then I'll just ask Amanda to, like, blur some parts of it.
01:15:23.540
I told my team, I go, this is me kind of getting in front, ahead of myself, but also not.
01:15:33.980
Then I enact what I call my Lin-Manuel Miranda plan.
01:15:42.060
I mean, even Tyler Perry, I don't really love Tyler Perry's films, but like, he's not getting
01:15:48.000
cast in a bunch of other stuff besides his own stuff.
01:15:50.280
I mean, granted, he's pretty, I don't think he'd accept roles, he's so fucking rich and
01:15:55.420
But even early on, he was just writing stuff for himself because no one else was going to
01:16:02.640
And then I was like, and part of me also, I want to gentrify other spaces where there's
01:16:11.620
I will say though, something that does kind of like, not freak me out about acting, but
01:16:16.000
like certain points I've been like, is like doing any kind of romantic scenes with other
01:16:28.920
The truth is, I actually find romance quite cheesy.
01:16:36.980
I check out and in film, I do not, I check out once the romance story happens.
01:16:40.840
Like if I'm here for Avengers, I want to see y'all fight aliens in space.
01:16:44.620
I don't care that, that Chris Pratt is in love with this, with this green lady.
01:16:54.880
And I've never, have I ever had to play a romantic role?
01:16:57.640
I mean, I've, I've been in roles where I've had partners.
01:17:04.260
There was no like scenes at, cause I think about that and that gives me like a tangible
01:17:11.440
That's something I'm talking about in therapy, which is like that men enraged me to a point
01:17:18.720
But one time I was telling my, my cousin Adam who does my hair and makeup, I was like telling
01:17:23.480
I'm like, what if they want me to kiss someone?
01:17:27.760
And I was like, I was talking about it as if it was going to happen.
01:17:30.940
And I was like panicking, but this is me just theorizing.
01:17:35.840
And then he literally goes, okay, well, first of all, it's four in the morning.
01:17:40.060
And he goes, second of all, you haven't been cast anything.
01:17:43.560
And I said, cross that bridge when you get there.
01:17:52.340
And I'm mourning the loss of the big leap with you.
01:17:56.740
And I've had some other, I mean, I've been in other TV shows.
01:18:00.400
I was in, I think probably the biggest thing I did was probably Tales of the City with Laura
01:18:16.240
I mean, probably not for anyone else, but for me, it was pretty massive.
01:18:33.780
It's very interesting because the Drag Race fan base is also crazy, but they're brave.
01:18:39.580
They'll yell at you, but it'll be from their real account.
01:18:44.020
They're yelling at you, but it's from an account of Dorinda's bracelet.
01:18:47.680
The profile picture is like Dorinda's hair flip or something, you know?
01:18:55.780
So they can, like, troll you behind their account with, like, three characters, with, like, three followers.
01:18:59.460
But, like, on Drag Race fans, it is from their real account.
01:19:02.540
It's like a picture of them wearing scrubs at the book.
01:19:05.360
Being like, you're an ugly bitch and I hate you for sending my favorite home.
01:19:18.360
Traders was very stressful for me because it was a stressful time in my life.
01:19:21.860
I had, like, the—2024 was a rough year for everyone.
01:19:36.540
The week after that, my nephew graduated high school.
01:19:38.240
So I came back to his graduation and then I left from my mom's house to go and do the Traders.
01:19:49.640
I got a little break from the chaos of my life and everything just, like, literally burning down and losing everything.
01:20:04.380
So it was really hard for me to, like, go through that whole process.
01:20:06.480
But I wasn't able to take a break from, like, the madness and thinking about that.
01:20:14.240
I believe if you're going to do something, go in and do it.
01:20:19.160
I wasn't trying to hide in the castle in corners and, like, hide from people.
01:20:32.780
Like, they want big personalities that are going to stir some shit up.
01:20:42.060
Can you tell me your favorite memory with your mom?
01:20:47.940
I think that my favorite memories were just coming home and seeing my mom.
01:20:55.020
So until the end of her life, she was just, like, sitting in her bed.
01:20:57.680
And I would just come home, walk to the front door, and just sit in my mom's bed with her.
01:21:01.380
I slept in the same bed as my mom every time I went home.
01:21:07.360
I was almost 40 years old to be in bed with my mother.
01:21:17.860
Judge Mathis is an OG in the daytime television.
01:21:49.240
Do you see how obsessed I am with people laughing?
01:21:54.720
I would rather see Judge Mathis on the Supreme Court.
01:22:07.740
I wouldn't be shocked to hear that, but it would be a bummer.
01:22:14.320
I'm so glad she's dead because we would have turned on her.
01:22:29.160
It would have been that meme of Wesley Snipes when he's crying and he's holding up the gun.
01:22:34.820
I'm glad that it ended when it ended because we would have had to turn on her and that would
01:22:42.280
Because I know your Joan Rivers impression, I remember.
01:22:48.440
Again, my impression is Mario Cantone impersonating Joan Rivers at the Roast of Joan Rivers.
01:23:22.360
We have a presidential candidate, okay, who is trying his best to divide our nation.
01:23:43.600
We have a huge problem in the United States of America when 98% of the wealth is going to 2% of the population.
01:23:54.420
I have one person who sees me for who I truly am here.
01:24:02.080
Every time I come down here, I see white people acting crazy.
01:24:39.180
Like, politicians always have these weird fucking voices.
01:24:42.080
So that's, like, very easy to mimic, I feel like, in a lot of ways.
01:24:48.180
Like, Hillary Clinton didn't have a very interesting voice, though.
01:24:51.340
But Kamala Harris, I would recognize that voice anywhere.
01:25:05.680
I would recognize these voices literally anywhere in the world.
01:25:19.440
It's quite ableist, my Mitch McConnell impersonation.
01:25:34.200
I do want to say, I do want to say, when we were on After Midnight together, I just
01:25:40.780
One of the producers was telling us when we were walking through rehearsal, and then
01:26:02.760
And then I think we tried to get her to say it.
01:26:04.220
She's like, I don't think I should be saying gang, gang.
01:26:28.280
She told me, because when she texted me about it, because she's one of my sisters, when she
01:26:32.600
texted me about it, I was like, oh my god, I'm so excited.
01:26:36.800
And then she goes, I have, but I don't think he remembers me.
01:26:41.360
And honestly, I hope he doesn't, because I think I was fucked up.
01:26:46.360
Oh, when you got his ass at the fucking Wicked Room.
01:26:48.620
Harry Daniels has these hostage situations where he corners you and sings a song to you.
01:26:54.740
And I was like, I'm going to sing Fuck the Police to Harry Daniels.
01:27:02.620
I don't care if he's talking to fucking Cynthia or Revo.
01:27:06.300
As soon as I'm going to interrupt the conversation, I handed my boyfriend the phone.
01:27:08.720
I was like, I'm going to go sing Fuck the Police to Harry Daniels.
01:27:20.620
He's saying to the President of the United States of America.
01:27:27.200
I actually do have some fun facts about you, though, that I would like to read.
01:27:32.160
It says you go by the stage name Caldwell to TDQ for acting roles.
01:27:48.460
It says Bob once got arrested in drag for blocking traffic while protesting for queer
01:27:59.700
When I was, I got arrested because I didn't know how long I'd be in jail because it could
01:28:03.560
So I was like, I need to pack snacks, but I can't bring a bag.
01:28:06.900
So I had, and I kid you not, a bagel under my wig.
01:28:11.640
My tits were made of cashews and I had a cliff bar under each one of my hip pads.
01:28:19.760
You said I keep that motherfucking thang on me.
01:28:29.640
It says Bob used to work as a real estate agent.
01:28:32.400
I was a, I was a licensed, well, I was a licensed real estate salesperson.
01:28:37.180
You have to work a little longer to be an agent.
01:28:39.240
But yeah, in New York City, I specialized in rentals and I was mostly renting to like
01:28:42.540
drag queens and cabaret performers and strippers who I knew through the nightlife scene.
01:28:51.180
It says Bob's first major stage production was playing Belize in Angels in America at the
01:29:00.040
I dropped out after three years to move to New York City to become a star.
01:29:07.920
And then I basically took like a 10 year break from actual acting.
01:29:16.160
I was like, I know that my calling is going to be standup comedy.
01:29:21.020
And then Tony Kushner, who is the Pulitzer Prize, I believe Oscar award winning, Tony award
01:29:36.980
He reached out and was like, I feel like you are a good actor.
01:29:41.680
I just feel in my heart that you're a good actor.
01:29:45.380
So my return to acting was doing eight shows a week, which by the way, I'm going to go ahead
01:29:53.440
When I see the Broadway schedule that some girls do on TikTok, I'm like, that is nuts.
01:30:04.200
What the fuck am I going to do on a fucking Monday?
01:30:07.960
Anyway, so I returned to do Angels in America at the Berkeley Rep.
01:30:18.180
And I was with heavy hitters, Steven Spinella, Tony Award winner, Steven Spinella, Randy Harrison,
01:30:24.120
like Danny Faradani, like some massive, brilliant actors.
01:30:36.460
So, okay, this last one says, Bob used to have YouTube vlog series called Bobbin' Around.
01:30:47.240
Yeah, I would, whenever I would go on a gig, I would just film myself on my phone doing ridiculous
01:30:53.060
stuff or just, it was just like just doing the stuff I do, meeting people, meeting the
01:30:57.380
queens where I'm going at, you know, on the plane with my assistant, Luis, at the time.
01:31:04.060
I would like literally sit on the plane and edit it.
01:31:05.820
But then I kind of stopped doing it because, like, my phone just, it ran out of space.
01:31:09.880
Like, I couldn't even, like, have you ever had your phone be so full you couldn't even
01:31:20.220
Speaking of your phone, I need everyone to know that Bob has an Android.
01:31:26.080
Whenever Bob texts me, it's Green Bubbles, and it is crazy.
01:31:38.380
I'm like, I've never watched it, so I don't know.
01:31:39.860
No, but I really love, I mean, the Google Pixel is just, I'm not caving for Google, but
01:31:45.980
And I just got used to using Androids for so long.
01:31:49.240
And I actually do have, can you, because I want to bring my bag into the room.
01:31:52.140
I'm going to show you, I'm going to show you something that I don't, I'm going to show
01:31:55.640
you something that I don't tell a lot of people.
01:31:59.080
I believe it's in the Gucci fanny pack on the chair over there.
01:32:02.380
So this is my Google Pixel, but the truth is, Drew, I have an iPhone.
01:32:12.740
Cut back to when he said, not everyone can afford iPhones, Drew.
01:32:23.540
It's like the Google Pixel camera is really like over the top in advance.
01:32:29.120
And when you try to film in TikTok, the quality is decompressed so badly.
01:32:35.440
When, when quality is higher, it uploads in terrible quality.
01:32:41.340
Not upload, when you film it from the app, the app itself is not capable of handling
01:32:48.900
There's some tech nerd in the company like, actually, actually, he's actually right.
01:32:55.260
I'd say that too if I was fucking working at Google Pixel.
01:33:00.640
But yeah, but the iPhone is better for those apps.
01:33:02.940
And then there's certain things, a lot of things with the Google phone is better for
01:33:05.560
So I just kind of flopped back and forth between the two.
01:33:08.320
One for the bros, one for the hoes, one for the nose.
01:33:20.760
Last year is, I thought it was like 2004 or something.
01:33:38.520
I just graduated high school in Clayton County, Murrow High School in Clayton County.
01:33:43.580
I think I'm the most famous person from my high school.
01:33:50.860
But I mean, Clayton County actually is a pretty, I mean, there's a lot of famous rappers from
01:33:56.920
Like, Waka Flocka Flame is from Clayton County.
01:34:00.920
I think Bubba Sparks might be from Clayton County, but he might be from La Grange, Georgia.
01:34:07.440
So there's a lot, but they didn't go to my high school.
01:34:12.880
You know what's funny is I've been doing college talks recently.
01:34:15.960
Like, I just go and like answer questions or whatever.
01:34:18.560
And I've been asked by so many colleges except my own, the one that I went to.
01:34:33.000
I said, no, I'm going to go to Columbus, Georgia, where I was born.
01:34:40.400
And I'm going to put on, I'm going to sell out the Bill Hurd Theater, the biggest theater.
01:34:46.140
When I tell you, that was my lowest selling show.
01:34:48.480
When I tell you, Columbus said, nigga, fuck you.
01:34:56.240
He said, when I tell you, Columbus doesn't give a fuck about me.
01:35:00.820
I had more members of my family in the audience than I had paying people.
01:35:18.840
They were like, we're going to give you one usher and someone worked a popcorn machine,
01:35:26.440
It ended up being a really beautiful show because I just ended up not caring and the
01:35:30.120
But I was like, I would remember thinking to myself, this is going to be my big come
01:35:40.600
I sold less tickets there than anywhere I've ever been.
01:35:54.940
And also, I don't know if you know Ma Rainey is a famous blues singer.
01:36:12.660
And I had to ask you to stop because you wouldn't send something to me.
01:36:17.240
I didn't want to have to bring it up on the show, but you brought it up first, so.
01:36:24.940
I do feel that way, though, about most things where, like, when they say things like, oh, they're watching you through your phone or whatever.
01:36:37.120
I'm like, if I'm not, it's boring as fuck, but if you find anything.
01:36:52.400
So, I love fighting games, but I've specifically been zoning in on Super Smash Brothers specifically.
01:36:57.120
I probably want to come out for the first time in a long time, like, two nights ago with a friend of mine.
01:37:02.100
And it just took me so long to get back into it, but Super Smash Brothers, I'm that girl.
01:37:10.800
Villager is also the only character you can make black.
01:37:15.160
If you L1 back one time, you get Black Villager.
01:37:27.820
And you can make some characters literally the color black.
01:37:31.840
There's a black Donkey Kong, a black King K. Rool, a black Ganondorf, but they're literally the color black.
01:37:48.980
As I've played the newer versions of Smash Bros.
01:37:51.620
Like when I played back in the day, I was always Kirby and I felt like I was killing it.
01:37:54.720
Now I feel like Kirby's just not really holding up.
01:38:00.320
I feel like, I'm going to say right now, if you get back into it, I feel in my heart of hearts you're going to be a Zelda girly.
01:38:16.360
She has a guard who shows up out of nowhere and swings a big sword at you.
01:38:25.660
I like Fortnite because it's like a first-person shooter game, but I can't Call of Duty.
01:38:44.800
Literally, but in Fortnite, it's kind of like evaporating.
01:38:56.420
The story modes on Call of Duty are even more scary because they're, like, real.
01:39:01.280
Like, they're war stories, obviously, but they look and feel too real.
01:39:05.340
I just don't like when I have to, like, it's me.
01:39:14.200
Well, when you play Fortnite, it's not really first-person because you can actually see their
01:39:18.880
I had a spell with Fortnite where I was, like, playing it a lot.
01:39:24.020
But I started getting a lot better, and then I won, like, two or three times, and then
01:39:34.660
Fortnite and Smash are my two favorite video games.
01:39:37.140
And then every 15 years when they release a Zelda, I will play the whole thing.
01:39:40.520
I loved the Zelda games when I- the GameCube was a thing.
01:39:47.720
I mean, Tears of the Kingdom was a really, really great-
01:39:51.080
I mean, Breath of the Wild is really that girl.
01:39:53.820
I don't think they will ever top Breath of the Wild.
01:39:57.100
I haven't played Zelda any time recently, but sometimes she calls to me.
01:40:13.820
No, but when we were talking about the portable PS5 things, have you seen those?
01:40:19.140
She goes, oh my God, my boyfriend got me one recently, and she goes, they're- I go, oh,
01:40:28.720
No, it's literally, like, it looks awesome, because it looks exactly like the PS5, but
01:40:33.480
then, like, you need to be right next to the PS5 in order to use it.
01:40:56.580
That's why I'm, like, sometimes, or this morning, literally, I told my cousin Adam,
01:41:00.700
I was, like, oh, I have Bob today, and he was, like, oh, and then he spent extra long
01:41:07.040
Thank you, but I always remember that he always says, like, whenever I'm working with
01:41:10.620
drag queens, he wants to do a really good job on my makeup, just in case, so they don't
01:41:18.780
Let's have another re-evaluation, a work assessment, honey.
01:41:23.320
Well, to close us, do you have any advice for anyone who's pursuing any sort of creative
01:41:33.280
My greatest gift is that I am not a perfectionist.
01:41:51.280
I do want to say before, on a very serious note, I fucking love you, obviously.
01:41:59.820
Like, you are, like, one of the most talented people I've ever met that can do so many different
01:42:11.280
In general, I just think you're a fucking star.
01:42:18.920
And also, I'm going to get you a copy of my book.
01:42:22.900
I meant to bring it, but I ended up giving away a bunch of the queerties last night that
01:42:27.280
But I'm going to get you a signed copy of my book.
01:42:31.000
So in my audio book, there are two original songs in it.
01:42:38.560
I'm so, like, these are the best songs I've ever written.
01:42:41.560
These are legit the best songs I've ever written.
01:42:43.400
They're written from the perspective, like, the point of view, the POV of Harriet Tubman.
01:42:46.520
The best songs I have ever written in my fucking life.
01:42:52.220
And I think you're a shining example of someone who, obviously, you're so talented in the
01:42:58.440
But you're someone who is an artist at the very center of everything.
01:43:01.780
And I think you've done a fantastic job of being able to showcase all the other talents
01:43:08.400
Obviously, you love drag, but, like, you are so incredibly talented outside of that.
01:43:12.000
So, I'm so excited to read your book and hear your songs.
01:43:23.760
Crazy that the very first sin was a woman who ate.
01:43:31.460
And, obviously, everybody here already knows where they can find you at Bob the Drag Queen.
01:43:36.760
And if you want to get my book, you can go to readthedragqueen.com.
01:43:39.720
If you want to see me on tour, go to seethedragqueen.com.
01:43:42.380
And if you would like to get a sign copy of my book, go to bobsignedbook.com.
01:43:49.420
We'll list them all out so everyone can find them.
01:43:59.300
Thank you so much for joining us on this episode of the Comment Section Show.
01:44:11.360
Thank you so much for joining us on this episode.
01:44:13.320
Don't forget new episodes drop every Wednesday.
01:44:15.380
You can stream the audio on all streaming platforms, but the video lives for free and exclusively
01:44:20.680
Thank you so much to my amazing all-star guest, Bob the Drag Queen.
01:44:24.780
I know you bitches are already following him on literally everything.
01:44:33.600
Literally, you can watch it in the new season of Traitors.
01:44:36.580
I get everywhere and I'm impossible to get rid of.
01:44:57.380
They will say everything, but the moment you say anything, you can be like, your haircut
01:45:03.340
Yeah, they're like, I thought you hated body shaming.
01:45:07.780
I hate when someone goes, but I thought that you always put you the ones who love everyone.
01:45:19.380
That's how I felt about Trump supporter girls getting mad at me when I said, I hate you.
01:45:23.160
And I said, what about me makes you fucking think that I would...
01:45:31.500
Yeah, thank you guys so much for watching, and I'll see you next week.