The Culture War - Tim Pool - Candace Owen ACCUSES Ben Shapiro, Charlie Kirk Assassination Conspiracies ERUPT

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00:00:42.260 on shopify.com the roommates of the alleged assassin of charlie kirk tyler robinson is

00:00:49.380 getting immunity in order to testify we're learning now that there's major dna evidence

00:00:54.160 Tyler Robinson's DNA, allegedly on key evidence as roommate's testimony looms. However, it is being

00:01:01.080 disputed by the defense. So what I will say is it does seem like many of the conspiracy theories

00:01:07.000 are beginning to fall apart as we get access to the actual video footage, the evidence that is

00:01:12.020 available. And dare I say, I seek now today to join you all and push back on the insanity and

00:01:18.680 the lies that have been propped up endlessly, notably with the latest conspiracy theory going

00:01:26.540 around that Ben Shapiro now did it. I'm just done with this. What is the purpose in which

00:01:32.480 these people are lying? I'm going to break down for you the inner secrets, the background details

00:01:37.100 that day when Charlie Kirk was killed. I'm going to tell you exactly where I was,

00:01:42.960 exactly what happened, how it went down. And you know what? You don't want to believe it?

00:01:47.780 don't have to believe it. I'm just done with this. Guys, there are people on the internet

00:01:53.580 and they strive to just lie to you, to make money, to grift, because they want the clicks,

00:02:00.540 they want the views. You may have noticed I have been out since just before the 4th of July,

00:02:04.740 went and hung out with family for the 4th of July, but we did pre-record for, you know, IRL

00:02:08.100 because we want to make sure we're not, I worked throughout the weekend. I worked over the weekend

00:02:11.660 to get the job done because I don't like missing work. This week, I had the privilege of playing

00:02:15.840 at the World Series of Poker, several tournaments, and I didn't make it. I didn't make it. I did

00:02:20.380 better. I made it further than some people, and so I said, guys, you know, this week, I'm doing

00:02:25.280 work. I'm having business meetings. It's summer. It's a low period. This is when we want to get

00:02:28.560 this work done, and I said, no, no, no. I'm coming back in, out of my way. I was going to be taking

00:02:33.600 the work off for other business, other promo, but I see these lies online about, particularly now

00:02:39.220 with Ben Shapiro, posted by Candace Owens, and being repeated by people who know better, who

00:02:44.780 know better. And so I'm going to break down for you the truth in how all of this works. And again,

00:02:51.040 believe what you want to believe. That's fine. But I'm gonna tell you the truth. Okay. So the

00:02:55.680 first updates that we have right now, the news that I give you is that we're breaking. We are

00:02:59.700 learning more and more about what happened on that fateful day. We now have more video of Tyler

00:03:05.500 Robinson. So the prosecution says, you know, I say allegedly because we're not we're not we haven't

00:03:10.260 concluded the case he's walking downstairs he's got this strange walk as though there's something

00:03:16.600 in his uh you know in his pants which has been alleged there are a bunch of things that have

00:03:21.220 been made up alleged they say uh he took the gun apart but how did he how did he put it back

00:03:26.080 together or why was it put back together and it's like here's my understanding okay they say that he

00:03:33.120 put put the gun together because you just screw it in and then you can see in the video that was

00:03:37.980 released a long time ago, him running off the roof. Now, again, let it let's let's I'm let the

00:03:42.740 evidence play out in court. And a lot of these theories have already been debunked because

00:03:46.000 I'll say this. This is why the, you know, Erica Kirk and Charlie's friends and family,

00:03:52.180 they wanted these the trial to be public. People kept saying, well, just release the evidence and

00:03:58.180 prove it. And the problem is, of course, that compromises the trial. So you can't. But now

00:04:03.900 that we're here, we are getting this information. So let me show you where we are currently at

00:04:08.520 with, uh, uh, the worst of all of it. And we'll start with this post from Candace Owens, who,

00:04:14.300 uh, I think is just, um, guys, this is just a bridge too far and it's just every single day.

00:04:21.600 It's worse. I don't want to bore you with social, uh, drama, uh, politics stuff that's in the

00:04:28.640 periphery of these things. But I'm, I do have a lot to talk about in this regard. I'm going to

00:04:31.720 Save it for the end, because I've been having some meetings.

00:04:33.600 I've been talking with a lot of people.

00:04:34.800 Before we jump into this, make sure you join us at TimCast.com.

00:04:37.300 Guys, we can't do this without you.

00:04:39.500 Look, let me put it like this.

00:04:41.000 You say, Tim, where were you all week?

00:04:42.480 Some people are tweeting.

00:04:43.260 Get back to work.

00:04:44.140 Guys, I've been working.

00:04:45.980 And I know, you know, I played in the World Series.

00:04:48.320 The goal of all of this is outside promo, outside of politics.

00:04:52.100 What can I do to build up the work that we do, the website we have, the offerings we have,

00:04:57.160 when politics is down?

00:04:58.640 And this is an opportunity.

00:04:59.620 And don't get me wrong.

00:05:00.160 I love it.

00:05:00.520 I'm passionate.

00:05:00.920 it. So I had a lot of fun playing in the world series of poker. I did, I did actually did

00:05:05.060 decently well, all things considered. I think I could have done better. I don't think I'm the

00:05:08.360 best, but I had fun. And I'm out here trying to have meetings. We're setting up plans. We've got

00:05:13.920 contract negotiations coming up. I'm busting my ass and we can't do it without you. So I came back 0.99

00:05:19.220 in today because I just, you know, someone asked me, you know, I was talking to this, this poker

00:05:24.360 pro, he retired and he's, and I said, why, why retire? You know, you're one of the biggest names

00:05:27.580 and he's like, hey, are you going to keep doing? Do you want to keep doing this job forever? And I

00:05:31.200 said, it's not a job. It's a compulsion. And so here I am, you know, last night telling the boys,

00:05:38.040 guys, I want to take this opportunity this week while we're out here. There's a lot of big

00:05:42.300 companies. There's ESPN, you know, there's WSOP. There's companies on the periphery,

00:05:47.480 potential sponsorships. I'm going to try and do some other work in other areas I don't normally

00:05:51.820 get to do because I'm always in the studio. Then I wake up and I see this and I'm just like, okay.

00:05:56.660 I was like, prep the studio, I'm coming in.

00:05:58.940 So if you believe in the work that we do,

00:06:01.100 join us at timcast.com, get in the Discord server,

00:06:03.400 hang out with like-minded individuals.

00:06:05.040 You don't have to think I'm right about everything.

00:06:06.680 You don't have to like my opinions.

00:06:07.780 In fact, I prefer it if you challenge my opinions,

00:06:10.180 and we often have these arguments and debates

00:06:12.460 with our own Discord community,

00:06:14.420 because what I care about is logic, reason, pragmatism,

00:06:19.520 what makes the most sense.

00:06:20.960 And I can't stand, you guys, you know,

00:06:22.620 it really, really grinds my gears

00:06:24.300 that there are so many people who just want to live in the drama fantasy land.

00:06:28.540 I wish things were so simple.

00:06:30.400 But if you want to support the work, TimCast.com, be a member,

00:06:33.900 stand with us, and argue with us.

00:06:36.100 We have a good time.

00:06:37.720 Candace Owens posts this.

00:06:39.120 Actually, you know what?

00:06:40.340 I'm going to do what Ian calls information vaccination.

00:06:43.420 And I'm going to play a clip for you of Ben Shapiro

00:06:46.380 that I hope the audio is all seen properly.

00:06:48.040 So, I remember where I was when all this was happening.

00:06:50.900 I was in Los Angeles.

00:06:51.900 I had sort of a breakfast slash lunch meeting with somebody.

00:06:56.880 And I got the news that Charlie had been shot,

00:07:00.260 and my security was on the phone with Charlie's security

00:07:03.020 because nobody knew what the hell was going on.

00:07:04.680 Well, Charlie was still in the back of the car,

00:07:06.380 and we were sort of getting updates along the way.

00:07:09.200 At 2.40 p.m.

00:07:11.120 So what did Ben just say?

00:07:14.200 What did he just say?

00:07:16.060 He was in L.A. when Charlie got shot.

00:07:19.820 He's still in the back of the car.

00:07:20.740 He's getting his security teams on the phone with Charlie's security team.

00:07:25.040 OK, so the first thing I'm going to do and what information vaccination is, as Ian describes it, is if you know Ian Crossland from the from IRL, is provide the truth first so that when you show the lie, I understand what they're doing.

00:07:41.880 The way Ian described it is that his parents would see these lies about Trump.

00:07:45.220 And then when he would go and be like, hey, no, here's what really happened.

00:07:48.140 They'd be like, no, because I already saw this.

00:07:50.740 So, before you get a bias, before the well is poisoned, I want you to hear what Ben actually said.

00:07:56.080 And many of you may be familiar with what Candace, her tweet was or whatever, but for those that weren't, he's getting updates from Charlie's security team.

00:08:02.240 What does that mean? I'll tell you. I have a security team. I have several security people with me all the time.

00:08:07.740 For many of you who saw me at the World Series of Poker, we're in a bunch of casinos.

00:08:13.120 You may have noticed the dudes with body armor that walk around.

00:08:16.540 Well, you know, I shouldn't say it like that, but you can't really notice. It's like light armor, right?

00:08:20.560 But I've got two security guys, as well as a couple of friends that are just hanging out.

00:08:25.160 And I'll tell you on a secret.

00:08:26.160 The reason why celebrities have posses, you ever see a celebrity walk around with a bunch of people? 0.97

00:08:30.060 It's not always just because they have a posse.

00:08:33.120 They want to have their friends hang out with them.

00:08:34.380 They want to go buy a bunch of things and hang out with their buddies.

00:08:37.280 No, it's because it's security.

00:08:38.920 It's not that I'm hiring.

00:08:39.800 It's like I got security guards, but my friends come out and hang out with me all the time to get my back.

00:08:45.860 Because they know it's like, hey, man, you know.

00:08:47.740 So that's why you see the lot.

00:08:48.900 So here's what happens.

00:08:50.040 I have a security company. We got a couple of guys. We have some are not here because we actually

00:08:55.640 have several security guys. Some walk around with rifles around our property. And I won't go into

00:09:00.980 great detail about security measures, but only because someone on Timcast IRL said, I saw a guy

00:09:05.740 walking around with a rifle. I'm like, yeah, you get it. The head of our security company knows

00:09:10.420 the head of security for all these, many of these other companies, particularly the ones that are

00:09:15.040 used by Daily Wire. And I believe Daily Wire may use the same company as Turning Point USA.

00:09:20.040 There's only a handful of major security companies, and most people on the right use the same ones.

00:09:25.020 So what does that mean?

00:09:26.440 It means that there's a strong probability, though I don't know for sure, but it was my understanding, and I could be wrong about this,

00:09:31.960 that Daily Wire used either the same or an affiliate company that Turning Point used, which would mean, again, I could be wrong about this.

00:09:41.020 My understanding was that with the same security company, or at least affiliates, because they all know each other anyway,

00:09:46.900 the guys who do security often contract between companies that when something happens to Charlie,

00:09:52.300 it's the same company relaying information to itself. But the company has security guards that

00:09:58.280 work for Ben and work for Charlie. So when he says his security team is talking to my security team,

00:10:03.520 that may be the exact same company could literally just mean employees talking to each other saying,

00:10:08.320 hey, guys, here's what's going down right now. Now, now here's what Candace said. Ben Shapiro

00:10:14.680 just confessed on his show that while Charlie was being transported to the hospital and bleeding

00:10:20.240 out to death, his security was on the phone with Charlie's security receiving updates.

00:10:24.200 I knew it. I knew it. I knew it. What does that mean? What does that mean? My team was as well.

00:10:31.580 People who work for Timcast were getting updates all the same. I get ragged on by the left because

00:10:37.000 they're psychotic evil people because I tweeted that Charlie was reportedly stable because the

00:10:42.280 information that we got was immediately following him getting shot in the neck and when i saw that

00:10:47.800 video i said there's no way there's no way here's the thing it's called fog of war the the immediate

00:10:53.560 aftermath of charlie getting shot this is so brutal to remember that day the immediate aftermath of

00:11:00.080 this was that they're they're putting pressure on his neck and they're dragging his body to the car

00:11:04.800 and what i was told was that he still had a pulse and someone from their security so look guys

00:11:12.120 i that what a brutal day man it's it's so hard to i i can't stand these people this is what 1.00

00:11:18.920 kills politics this is what kills the space this is what kills the passion candace is evil she

00:11:25.120 doesn't care and the rest of us will suffer because of it because the passion and drive 1.00

00:11:29.880 that that keep us connected in politics help us make the world better and she is it's not just

00:11:35.480 her there's others i'm going to call them out too that are burning that down that i meet people

00:11:40.440 every day saying, I can't watch this stuff anymore because this is what it's devolving

00:11:44.180 into. And there are psychopaths that are led astray, like the disgusting Pied Piper. She 0.97

00:11:48.740 is leading them off into the ocean or to get whacked with hammers anyway. So here's what

00:11:57.980 happens. Here's the likely scenario. I can tell you what happened with us. So Charlie's

00:12:03.980 got security. He gets shot. The information that we receive is that he's stable. I say,

00:12:09.460 can I report that? And I think in hindsight, hindsight being 2020, when you're told Charlie

00:12:18.780 is stable, that's big news, but there's fog of war. And I was wrong. And my source of information

00:12:27.100 was wrong. I think at the time what they meant to say was that he's not dead. He had a pulse

00:12:33.700 and he wasn't fading.

00:12:36.460 He's critical but stable, right?

00:12:38.940 Not that he was coming back,

00:12:40.640 but that he had been shot in the neck

00:12:42.100 and they put pressure on the wound

00:12:43.240 and he still had a pulse.

00:12:45.560 Now I know in hindsight,

00:12:47.460 we know exactly the full details after the fact

00:12:49.720 and the story comes a little bit clearer

00:12:51.920 and some of the early on details were no good.

00:12:54.860 Security for Charlie isn't 10 guys

00:12:57.920 standing there all holding their hands on his neck.

00:13:00.540 Two of the people will be looking around

00:13:04.200 One guy in the car is probably sitting shotgun making phone calls because information saves lives.

00:13:09.960 Why was it that Ben Shapiro's security team got information?

00:13:12.840 My assumption is that same contractors, potentially same company, and security is just relaying information to other security.

00:13:20.080 That's it.

00:13:20.940 My security team got updates as well.

00:13:22.840 The head of my security company knows the head of Charlie's security company.

00:13:26.800 And I was on the phone with both of them a few weeks later discussing a lot of what had been going on.

00:13:31.840 Candace says he confessed. Someone explained to me why during the minutes while Charlie was dying

00:13:40.400 in the back of a car, Charlie's security team was providing updates to Ben Shapiro's team rather

00:13:44.000 than focus entirely on saving Charlie's life and finding the killer. Because there were a handful

00:13:48.780 of people fighting for Charlie's life. And there's probably a guy who works on the security team

00:13:54.600 who was relaying the information of what was going on to other security agents. If somebody

00:14:01.460 was going to be killing conservatives, I think informing other prominent right-wing individuals

00:14:05.860 and their security teams of what was going on would be particularly prudent. I will remind you

00:14:11.080 all that Brian Harpole, who was Candace's security guy, by the way, who did security for Candace and

00:14:16.900 she lies about it. One of the security members who was in that car and went to the hospital

00:14:22.020 is currently suing me and is using Ben Shapiro's lawyer, who has sued me relentlessly on Ben's

00:14:26.540 behalf of the last three years. I'm going to say this. I'm going to say this. Candace had the same

00:14:31.720 security that Charlie did. Now, I don't know when she severed, but my understanding from a direct

00:14:39.900 source, Brian Harpole provided security for Candace Owens, in fact, had even helped her out

00:14:45.220 in ancillary affairs. And the reason why he's suing her is because of this. Candace is evil.

00:14:54.740 And you know what? 1.00

00:14:56.500 Whatever, right?

00:14:57.340 Whatever.

00:14:57.720 People are like,

00:14:58.800 they say Tim has Candace,

00:15:00.080 the arrangements.

00:15:00.640 Guys, she's got 7.4 million views on this.

00:15:03.780 But it's not just about Candace.

00:15:04.840 I'm going to explain more,

00:15:05.680 but bear with me.

00:15:07.000 One of the security members

00:15:07.980 who was in the car at the hospital

00:15:09.080 is currently suing me.

00:15:10.360 Ben Shapiro hated Charlie.

00:15:11.480 That's a lie.

00:15:12.600 Everyone knew that. 1.00

00:15:13.860 Fact, Candace Owens was going around 0.93

00:15:16.300 in the months before Charlie's death

00:15:17.840 saying she hated him.

00:15:19.260 I can say that definitively from a source

00:15:21.160 who Candace told that to.

00:15:25.260 Candace was, I got to be careful

00:15:27.480 on how I describe this

00:15:28.220 because there's some confidential sources,

00:15:29.620 but Candace had been going to events

00:15:31.260 and privately telling people

00:15:33.020 that she hated Charlie Kirk.

00:15:34.160 Why?

00:15:34.560 She got ousted from Turning Point.

00:15:37.380 Here's the truth. 1.00

00:15:39.580 Candace is a loose cannon. 0.95

00:15:41.140 Her working with Kanye West

00:15:42.500 was controversial.

00:15:43.980 Daily Wire is not like this

00:15:46.400 Israel shill Netanyahu company.

00:15:48.740 Let me explain.

00:15:49.640 daily wire does love israel don't get me wrong but it's not like they're a government-controlled

00:15:55.940 operation they're just biased and deferential for obvious reasons ben shapiro loves israel

00:16:01.020 but they're not being controlled by it the reason why they're just politically aligned in a lot of

00:16:06.620 ways the reason why you have uh stories like this uh well again i think i think you get the point

00:16:15.120 The Daily Wire wants to, well, you get the point.

00:16:20.720 I'm not going to prattle on about that.

00:16:22.340 The issue with the Daily Wire and censorship and Candace Owens and Kanye, it's not about Israel being mad. 0.57

00:16:28.460 It's about them trying to get sponsors.

00:16:31.020 100% hard fact.

00:16:32.960 They want to be on the right.

00:16:35.100 They want to challenge the establishment.

00:16:36.900 They prefer if conservatives win, but they're also dancing on eggshells because they want to make sure sponsors are going to buy in.

00:16:43.780 That means they're going to go to Candace and say, don't say Macron's a man and don't pal around with Ye because we're going to lose sponsors because of this.

00:16:50.420 That's the principal issue, not Israel. 0.67

00:16:53.080 Anyway, Candace gets ousted, but Charlie wants to main—first of all, Charlie was a good man.

00:17:02.340 And I don't think that Charlie wanted to burn someone who was a friend of his, Candace, because she had views he did not agree with.

00:17:09.200 which means she is she was basically ousted from tp usa she wasn't doing their events she had done

00:17:15.440 some like a year or so prior but she was just not being involved but charlie was still trying to be

00:17:20.440 friendly with her because they were friends but the turning point organization was like you can't

00:17:24.480 have her she's bad for the brand she's bad for donors we don't want to be involved now yes that

00:17:28.900 is pro-israel influence and all of that stuff too right big donors who love israel don't want to

00:17:34.800 gave the turning point if they're propping up someone like Candace Owens. But now think about

00:17:39.060 this. When they say Israel killed Charlie, you mean the guy who held a seminar with Colvit where

00:17:43.020 they did a video explaining to young people why Israel and the Jews were good? It's wild. Or how

00:17:47.480 about the organization that actually stopped bringing on Candace because of her views and

00:17:51.940 opinions? You think they were mad at Charlie over that stuff? Don't get me wrong, people say Charlie's

00:17:55.980 views were evolving on Israel. And those are half-truths most of the time. Listen, Israel did

00:18:04.460 not kill Charlie Kirk. Provide for me positive evidence in that direction, and I absolutely

00:18:12.380 will have that conversation. And this is what Candace is trying to do to Ben Shapiro. 0.98

00:18:16.720 I knew it. I knew it. I knew it. He confessed. It's so fake. Let me read more.

00:18:21.460 Who on Charlie's security team betrayed him in this way?

00:18:26.720 Guys, I have a handful of security people.

00:18:31.780 When Charlie Kirk got shot, they were all informed that Charlie Kirk got shot.

00:18:37.620 We then talked to our security guys and they're like, yeah, we're getting these updates.

00:18:41.060 Why?

00:18:43.120 Don't you think it's important?

00:18:45.900 A prominent conservative is shot.

00:18:48.260 People go on lockdown.

00:18:49.940 Like, hey, heads up, high threat incident, right?

00:18:54.380 She's making it seem like someone in the car was relaying information to Ben Shapiro

00:18:58.160 as though Ben Shapiro was somehow in on the assassination.

00:19:01.720 The insinuation here is that Ben Shapiro was involved in killing Charlie Kirk.

00:19:06.500 Everything Ben did following the assassination made my alarm bells go off.

00:19:10.160 I have told you guys there is something about the Daily Wire

00:19:12.380 and they're relentlessly stalking of me following the firing

00:19:14.440 that has made me feel altogether unsafe.

00:19:16.700 I have felt their obsessive focus on destroying me is deranged and increasingly dangerous.

00:19:21.260 What did Andrew Colvitt mean when he told me it was supposed to be you?

00:19:25.340 Never.

00:19:26.160 It was supposed to be her, huh?

00:19:27.680 What is that?

00:19:29.160 Why did Turning Point betray Charlie so quickly by allowing Ben to open at AmFest after declaring immediately that he would pick up Charlie's blood mic?

00:19:37.480 Why didn't Ben mention this before today that he was receiving status updates while Charlie was bleeding out?

00:19:42.500 Hey, I was receiving status updates.

00:19:44.540 I was on the phone right away.

00:19:45.900 With people telling me exactly what was going on.

00:19:48.120 With security people telling me exactly what was going on.

00:19:50.500 We're talking minutes.

00:19:52.020 Minutes.

00:19:53.480 Yeah.

00:19:54.540 Am I in on a two?

00:19:55.580 Huh?

00:19:56.840 It's psychotic.

00:19:58.780 My God. 0.90

00:20:01.380 It's so difficult to be in this space that is dominated by such evil people.

00:20:06.780 And I think maybe that's the point.

00:20:09.860 Politics is pretty dead right now.

00:20:12.120 Again, which is why I said I came out to Vegas to do some schmoozing, contracts, business

00:20:15.820 meetings, sponsorships, and all that stuff.

00:20:17.380 So what opportunity do I have?

00:20:19.700 You know, every day there's a big news story, and I have a job to do, and I feel guilty

00:20:23.400 when I don't do that job.

00:20:24.800 But at the same time, I have to, at some point, do administrative work, do backroom deals,

00:20:29.800 not backroom deals, back-end deals, backroom deals too, secret meetings with private sponsors.

00:20:35.860 No, but I'm meeting with tech companies and advertisers and things like that, and trying

00:20:41.580 to get things sorted for the show moving forward with the midterms coming up, with the primary

00:20:45.180 coming up. This is the point in time where we can go and do a ton of negotiations because we know

00:20:50.300 interest in viewership of politics is low. At the same time, it's fair to point out there are a lot

00:20:55.040 of people that I know that are just burned out because of stuff like this. She says,

00:20:59.700 I clocked that Ben was too invested in this. His energy on stage demanding that Megyn Kelly call

00:21:04.300 me evil and his overprotective stance on Erica always registered me as deeply nervous. 0.85

00:21:10.580 Ben Shapiro is satanic.

00:21:12.660 Everything in my soul tells me he worships Satan, literally. 0.94

00:21:15.620 Look at his demeanor in this clip.

00:21:17.700 We need to find out exactly who on Charlie's team betrayed him 0.96

00:21:20.700 by providing immediate updates to this parasite.

00:21:25.160 Okay, here's Clint Russell.

00:21:27.500 For those that haven't followed this closely,

00:21:30.420 Charlie Kirk was placed in that vehicle in under a minute.

00:21:32.640 The car ride was less than 10, likely less than 5.

00:21:35.960 So within 5 or 10 minutes, Shapiro's security was getting real-time updates

00:21:38.980 from Charlie Kirk security, and that was relayed to Shapiro, when they should have been working

00:21:43.560 tirelessly to save his life. Clint, you're a liar. You are lying, and you know it. Shapiro was not 1.00

00:21:49.800 CK's friend. CK did not work for Daily Wire. That's not correct. They were friends. While the rest of

00:21:55.360 the world was just learning about a shot being fired, somehow Shapiro has a direct line of the

00:21:58.860 security team, which just failed to secure their protectee. This is weird beyond belief, and I hope

00:22:03.320 everyone will set their buy side and really think about how this is even possible. So disturbing.

00:22:06.840 I know Clint's not stupid. I know Clint's a smart guy. I know Clint understands how security works. 0.92

00:22:11.500 So Clint, you're a liar. You and Candace, you want your views so bad? Is this what you think 0.92

00:22:16.120 is going to make your podcast? By all means, congratulations, brother. You've earned all of

00:22:19.920 it. Ben Shapiro is getting updates because his security team who provides security. So Daily

00:22:25.920 Wire has got a company, a big company, guys in suits with earpieces and guns and sometimes big

00:22:31.520 guns. And there's a ton of them. They are a big company that cost millions of dollars, probably

00:22:37.540 per month. Okay. Maybe not per month, but maybe at least hundreds of thousands of dollars from

00:22:43.420 maybe 500 to 600,000 per month in order to secure multiple high profile talent. You better damn well

00:22:51.200 believe that Charlie Kirk security team is going to be relaying information to their higher ups.

00:22:57.160 It's as if these people, you know what Clint is doing? Clint, you know what you're doing?

00:23:00.040 you know what you're doing? Are you, are you intentionally trying to mislead people

00:23:04.080 into believing that Charlie's security team consisted only of the people standing there

00:23:09.280 on the ground and not an administrator in an office, a logistics person? I've got for my

00:23:15.320 security company, they've got all of that stuff. So we've got security guards. Some of them are

00:23:20.000 contractors, vets, former police, mostly vets though. These guys are tough as nails,

00:23:25.000 carved out of stone. When something happens, they give information to logistics. Logistics

00:23:31.160 relays information that is pertinent to the higher ups and everyone in the company instantly knows.

00:23:36.320 Now, maybe a security guard, like if we get a flat tire and they relay we have a flat tire and it

00:23:43.600 goes to our security company so they know, they're not going to go tell the security guy for Ben

00:23:47.940 Shapiro. But if someone shot me, they would immediately be sending out information to all

00:23:54.200 the other guards, all the other security personnel, it's called EP, executive protection, saying,

00:23:59.480 heads up, assassination, high-profile target, be on alert. Instantly, everyone in security in this

00:24:06.620 space knows what's happening. That's why I knew it was happening. That's why we knew it was going on.

00:24:11.900 And I would say, got some things wrong, and I will never take those posts down.

00:24:16.200 The fog of war is real, and what happened at that point is real, and it deserves to be seen

00:24:20.720 its entirety in the future so people can see that fog of war, just understand that it was.

00:24:25.640 So Clint, why are you pretending like Charlie's only security people are literal on the ground

00:24:30.320 security? Could it be that perhaps as they're rushing to the car, the guy who got in the front

00:24:33.980 seat, who wasn't rendering aid to Charlie, got on the phone and immediately said, Charlie's down,

00:24:38.640 he's taking a bolt to the neck, we're transporting to the hospital right now, and the logistics for

00:24:43.840 his company immediately contacted the company that the Daily Wire uses, which is also used by

00:24:48.560 a bunch of other companies and said, guys, heads up. Here's exactly what happened. You guys should

00:24:53.140 be on high alert. Ben's in Los Angeles. He's in a particularly lefty place. It's just lies.

00:25:00.460 It's just all lies. 400. Look at that. 1,200 retweets. Here we go. Candace responded.

00:25:08.000 And to be clear, the former CEO of the Daily Wire, Jeremy Boring, who confessed that he was

00:25:12.220 not on speaking terms with Ben on that date, despite receiving a text, is now boldly claiming

00:25:17.160 that he knows for a fact it was FRG security.

00:25:20.020 Only problem, he lied and claimed FRG informed me as well.

00:25:23.860 This is completely false.

00:25:24.660 I can say it equivalently that I was informed by my manager

00:25:26.420 that Charlie had been shot when the video began going viral.

00:25:31.240 There's a video I watched.

00:25:32.660 It was really good.

00:25:34.160 It was a reel on Instagram.

00:25:35.000 And there's some like mentalist guru or something, sales guy.

00:25:38.440 And he says that there's a technique you can do.

00:25:42.500 He says, let's say you're going to go to an interview.

00:25:44.760 You're going to interview somebody.

00:25:45.520 and you walk in and you're talking and you put down two legos

00:25:52.280 you don't say anything about them you just put them down you've never said anything in the middle

00:25:58.840 of your conversation that person looks down and they at some point they're going to realize hey

00:26:03.800 wait i think these things these things can click together and they're not wrong you take the two

00:26:07.980 legos and they snap together aren't they great and that is a manipulation technique i call this

00:26:15.220 and it's similar to, I don't know if the technique is identical to, it's called

00:26:20.040 assumptive reasoning. And what you do is you provide someone with information while leaving

00:26:25.440 gaps so they draw conclusions. So for instance, what Clint is doing when he says when they should

00:26:33.840 have been working tirelessly to save his life. This is not the exact same thing, but the insinuation

00:26:39.920 of course is that Charlie didn't have logistics. He didn't have managers at a security company

00:26:44.600 and Charlie's only security.

00:26:46.760 In your mind, when he says these things,

00:26:49.040 you imagine that Charlie has four or five security guys

00:26:51.440 and there's nobody else.

00:26:53.220 There's nobody at the office.

00:26:55.040 There's nobody driving the car.

00:26:56.980 I have a security guy.

00:26:57.920 All he does is drive.

00:26:59.020 That's all he does.

00:26:59.560 He drives.

00:27:00.900 So when something happens, he's sitting in the car.

00:27:03.780 They're sending him updates.

00:27:05.640 So when something happens to Charlie, what happens?

00:27:07.780 I'll tell you exactly what happened.

00:27:09.780 Alex Stein was the first person who called me.

00:27:11.540 It was literally within like 30 seconds.

00:27:13.300 he calls me right away and I look at my phone my wife and I were driving to get uh I think it was

00:27:18.700 we were going to we were driving to Winchester in Virginia to get lunch dinner I eat I ate dinner

00:27:24.940 early because of IRL and then uh I get a call from Alex and he's like Tim Charlie's just been shot

00:27:31.120 I was like what he's like it just happened right now and I said I'm gonna call you back and I hung

00:27:34.060 up immediately opened up Twitter and saw everything and then I immediately got a then I think I called

00:27:40.140 one of my team members and I said, what's going on? And then I got a call back, direct updates,

00:27:48.120 exactly what was going on. My security company has a person who just sits in the office.

00:27:54.860 They're not security personnel. They're not security guards. They're not veterans, right?

00:27:59.780 They just sit at a computer and they're going over information. This is what we have to deal

00:28:04.600 with now. Let's see what else we have. Clint says, wow, it's like these people are allergic

00:28:08.940 to honesty. What a week for you to be on vacation. Thanks for clarifying what happened.

00:28:14.420 Viva Fry, Clint, serious question. You think it's absurd the security team of a prominent

00:28:17.440 conservative speaker who had just been shot would notify the security team of other prominent

00:28:21.320 conservative speaker who regularly receive death threats? What are you suggesting is the nefarious

00:28:25.020 reason that they would have contacted Ben's security team? You think it's less absurd

00:28:29.780 they would give the security team an update on planned assassination? Is the idea that they're

00:28:33.860 giving Benz what I had to cancel a college appearance. My security team said, based on

00:28:40.580 what's going on, you can't do this. We had to shut down our skateboarding events. We were doing

00:28:46.100 these, uh, these special events and then actually, uh, so, so we, we, we, we partially shut them

00:28:53.600 down. The initial plan for our live skate events was going to be a semi-public. And then after

00:28:59.600 the shooting, we were like, it's going to be invite only to close friends. And then after

00:29:04.040 someone opened fire on my property in December, we canceled them outright. We're working to restore

00:29:09.300 them. And we're setting up a studio in DC, which should help us do all that. Viva says,

00:29:15.980 is the idea that they're giving Ben's security team an update, an update on the team, an update

00:29:21.320 on the plot between notifying a prominent conservative speaker security team of a potential

00:29:25.580 threat and updating the security team on the status of an operation, which do you think

00:29:30.200 is more likely since your question?

00:29:32.900 This response is the way the way this is being portrayed as if the individuals in the back

00:29:36.800 seat with CK were literally on the phone with Ben's team while on the way to the hospital 0.93

00:29:39.240 is retarded. 0.86

00:29:40.420 If that's not the direct claim, it's certainly being implied. 1.00

00:29:43.560 I swear there's an epidemic of people's selective leaves in their intelligence. 0.99

00:29:45.740 Clint's not stupid. 1.00

00:29:46.360 Clint, you know you're lying. 1.00

00:29:47.180 I know you're lying.

00:29:48.460 Clint's a smart guy, successful guy, smart guy, and he's grifting.

00:29:52.440 So I remember where I was when all this was happening.

00:29:55.160 I was in Los Angeles. I had sort of a breakfast slash lunch meeting with somebody.

00:30:01.220 And my I got the news that Charlie had been shot and my security was on the phone.

00:30:06.680 Charlie's security because nobody knew what the hell was going on.

00:30:09.040 Well, Charlie was still in the back of the car and we were sort of getting updates along the way.

00:30:13.600 He did not say that Charlie's security team in the back of the car called him as Charlie lay dying to tell him what was happening.

00:30:20.180 The insinuation they're trying to make when Candace says that he confessed, I knew it, is that Ben Shapiro is Israel and that they were saying, operation complete.

00:30:31.840 That's the insinuation.

00:30:33.160 That's what the assumptive reasoning is.

00:30:35.280 The way it's framed that he confessed, she knew it, he was getting updates, is to make you come to the conclusion that these two things fit together.

00:30:44.480 But she never said it, so you can't sue her.

00:30:48.000 This is where we are.

00:30:50.180 Steve D says, at this point, there's way more evidence that Candace Owens was demonically placed and supernaturally elevated within our ranks to be in a position to divide and knife us at the most painful and strategic of times than there is for any of her Charlie assassination theories.

00:31:07.000 Indeed.

00:31:08.660 And, you know, I say this.

00:31:10.560 I say this.

00:31:13.620 She's not the only one.

00:31:15.620 There are a ton of people doing it.

00:31:16.820 what exactly would his entire security team be doing to save his life at that point in time

00:31:21.520 explain i'll tell you what they might be doing calling his wife calling the hospital prepare for

00:31:25.360 their arrival stopping the bleeding discuss wtf happened holding on for dear life as he drove 100

00:31:30.260 plus miles an hour for four miles bottom of that potential list is contact adventure piero's team

00:31:34.460 false phoenix says someone was already putting pressure on the wound the only other thing you

00:31:39.900 mentioned is calling the hospital it's your assertion that wasn't done by anyone the hospital

00:31:43.220 had no idea they were on their way. How many people are on his team? You're asserting all

00:31:47.080 guys, Phoenix. The insinuation is also that that's his only security homeboy in the front seat.

00:31:54.060 First thing he's going to do is the, so you've got multiple people. One guy calls the hospital.

00:32:00.120 One guy calls security company and says, Charlie has been shot. The security company then gets

00:32:06.200 either contacted or contacts the company for the daily wire, which probably overlap. And again,

00:32:13.300 So I want to say this.

00:32:14.960 I'm going to be very careful.

00:32:16.360 I have a security company and we love them.

00:32:18.240 They're great.

00:32:19.280 We have been pitched to work with this other big security company.

00:32:22.900 And we were told it's because Turning Point, Daily Wire, some other big prominent conservatives all use the same company.

00:32:29.600 And I said, dang, we're on the East Coast.

00:32:33.980 We know these guys.

00:32:35.320 They travel with us.

00:32:36.920 We're good.

00:32:37.960 You know what I mean?

00:32:38.680 It's, you know, we don't need to.

00:32:40.200 And so that's why I want to be careful

00:32:41.340 because I was just told like,

00:32:43.420 hey, we're getting an offer from this big company.

00:32:46.160 They want to work with us.

00:32:47.100 We can get like discounted rates and all that stuff.

00:32:48.440 And I'm like, hey, whatever.

00:32:50.420 You know, but it's a big company

00:32:52.060 and I was told it's used by everyone.

00:32:54.960 So again, my understanding, and I could be wrong,

00:32:56.740 was that it's also that Charlie's security,

00:33:00.620 probably the same security as Ben's.

00:33:02.280 And I don't mean the same guys,

00:33:03.740 but the same contractors or company.

00:33:05.940 So some of the guys who do security for me,

00:33:07.900 again, it's called EP.

00:33:08.920 It's called Executive Protection.

00:33:10.140 They're contractors.

00:33:11.540 We had a guy, when I went to Arizona for Turning Point in October to do the show there,

00:33:16.940 who was a vet, Navy SEAL guy, and he was a contractor.

00:33:20.840 He worked for a bunch of different companies, and he worked with us, and he was a great dude.

00:33:24.640 So they all know each other.

00:33:26.980 Not only that, but the head of MySecure, like I mentioned, knows Brian Harpole.

00:33:30.680 And again, I went through, I don't know what I'm supposed to say and not supposed to say,

00:33:35.380 but again, relate to me.

00:33:38.600 Let me just put it this way. 0.98

00:33:39.420 Candace worked with Turning Point. 0.78

00:33:40.820 Don't you think that they had the same security? 0.91

00:33:43.200 Why would Candace have a different security company than Charlie when they were doing the same events?

00:33:48.680 I'm not saying she hired them directly.

00:33:50.540 I'm saying the dude who was saying, wait right here, Ms. Owens.

00:33:54.320 What do you need, Ms. Owens?

00:33:56.220 Walking with her, going to dinner with her, was the same company that Charlie had.

00:34:02.120 And she's lying about it.

00:34:03.940 so he was going to say you're asserting all of them would have had some immediate tasks to do

00:34:09.180 and one of those things to work in the body one was driving one was praying their accounts not

00:34:14.140 mine that leaves one more who could have been calling erica or 911 or the hospital but instead

00:34:18.600 called the ben shapiro security you see what clint's doing the first thing any reasonable

00:34:23.740 person does is ask themselves what is security's job clint is lying any reasonable person and i

00:34:31.360 say this unto you because I know you are reasonable, and I know you concluded this already.

00:34:34.640 My audience, ain't their audience, you probably concluded that as soon as Charlie was shot,

00:34:42.340 some rendered aid, and they immediately informed the head of their company, probably by walkie

00:34:47.080 talkie, to be honest, Charlie's been shot, giving updates, and the logistics division

00:34:53.480 in that company is talking with Charlie's security team. They are trying to make you assume,

00:35:00.120 again, that Charlie's security team did not have logistics

00:35:04.200 and consisted of only, what is this, four people.

00:35:08.200 I assure you, Charlie Kirk's security was substantially greater than four people.

00:35:13.400 Yo, I think my security team is like six.

00:35:18.060 And that's not, and I'm saying it on the ground.

00:35:20.260 The company that I work with, we've got, again, managers, administrative, logistics.

00:35:25.960 He's just, Clinton, you're just lying. 1.00

00:35:27.400 You're a liar. 1.00

00:35:28.620 I hope it's worth it. 0.99

00:35:30.580 Phoenix adds.

00:35:31.760 So in other words, they were doing everything possible to keep him alive,

00:35:34.040 but you're just not happy, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:35:37.280 He won't admit-ish about Ben Shapiro, he's a B, whatever.

00:35:41.640 It's all fake.

00:35:43.100 I ask you only this.

00:35:45.540 Is it not, is my conclusion not the most reasonable?

00:35:49.380 That's all I can say.

00:35:51.480 Of course, one of the first things they're going to do is render aid,

00:35:54.800 but not everyone can.

00:35:56.260 So they're going to relay to the bosses because information,

00:35:59.280 You know what show I really love, guys?

00:36:02.300 Dr. Stone.

00:36:03.840 It's like Magic School Bus for little boys, though.

00:36:06.420 And I've explained it a bit.

00:36:09.800 But what I love about it, there is an episode.

00:36:12.500 Basically, you know, humans are petrified.

00:36:14.960 Thousands of years pass.

00:36:15.820 Civilization is destroyed.

00:36:17.100 And this gifted Japanese kid breaks from petrification.

00:36:21.380 And now he's got to rebuild civilization from scratch.

00:36:23.080 That's the show.

00:36:24.360 So it's basically Magic School Bus for kids.

00:36:25.860 He's like, they get into a fight.

00:36:27.720 there's one there's one side that doesn't want technology one side does and so he says we're

00:36:32.540 going to build the most powerful weapon man has ever created and immediately and i laughed and i

00:36:36.720 said communications and then nailed it on the battlefield they play trumpets they bang drums

00:36:43.080 why that informs the soldiers what to do how do you relay to a thousand men on the battlefield

00:36:49.060 what move to make and the and the information conveys rudimentary charge or on drums

00:36:57.200 retreat. What if you could convey specific instructions to individuals? Communications

00:37:03.840 are key. The most important thing in any kind of security circumstance is going to be communications.

00:37:10.440 In which case, the head of the security company needs to know this.

00:37:15.700 And here we go. Here we go. Drunk Woodworker says Tim Poole was getting updates too. Is he in on

00:37:20.040 the conspiracy? Wasn't Tim getting updates from the hospital, not while CK was being transported

00:37:24.380 to the hospital. No, I was getting updates while he was being

00:37:26.240 transported. 0.98

00:37:28.440 Well, he is the master Shabos 0.97

00:37:30.320 Goy, just a cuck for 0.99

00:37:32.200 them. It's fake. 0.90

00:37:35.820 So I think

00:37:36.400 you get it. To Steve

00:37:38.240 Deese's point. I was having

00:37:40.280 dinner the other day with a bunch of libs and conservatives

00:37:42.120 and one question that was

00:37:44.260 asked was, aren't you just tired of

00:37:46.260 politics at this point? And I was like, no.

00:37:49.340 Like, that's the only thing I

00:37:50.280 ever really cared about, to be honest. Like, since I was

00:37:52.260 a little kid, I'm reading the news and seeing what's going on in the world.

00:37:54.380 But at this point, I do I do believe that Steve Deese, whether it's true about demons, Candace Owens serves to annihilate the political space. Sponsors don't want to go anywhere near it. Politics is now devolved into this psycho anti like this psycho anti Jew stuff. Weird conspiracies that are not in the mainstream that no one cares about.

00:38:18.680 and uh it was funny when i was playing in the world series dan bolzerian was there

00:38:23.680 and uh so i i had one of the dealer a dealer and he knew who i was and he was like a big fan and

00:38:31.700 fist bump and and then uh he mentioned it's like actually i was dealing with uh at bolzerian's

00:38:36.860 table and i was like oh yeah how did that go and he's like as you as you think and then uh

00:38:42.100 everyone at the table started chuckling everybody knows who dan is and i was like uh yeah was he

00:38:45.740 talking about the jews and then uh he was like well you know he was asking questions about you

00:38:51.540 know this kind of stuff right i i don't want to say too much because i don't know exactly i don't

00:38:55.640 i don't put words in dan's mouth but dan was this is what he was talking about this kind of stuff

00:38:59.840 asking if people believed these theories or anything and you know people kind of were he

00:39:04.700 and maybe a couple people agree with him but he said a lot of people were just kind of like

00:39:07.860 bro regular people see through this stuff regular people see completely through this stuff

00:39:14.040 so there so here we are i'm spending this week it's funny even candace is on vacation this week

00:39:20.240 how about that everybody's kind of burned on politics you know since charlie died it's been

00:39:25.480 pretty brutal and so the world series of poker has been it's like a two month long thing almost

00:39:30.420 but the main event was uh starting at the end of last week and i said uh let's go out some some

00:39:35.520 potential sponsors were like we'd love to see you play and the reason the reason is for one

00:39:40.840 I'm a big poker guy.

00:39:43.360 I play a lot of tournaments, small ones, like online, usually cash for small amounts.

00:39:50.860 Main event's a big dog tournament, you know, so it's rough to get that.

00:39:54.480 I made it to the end of day two.

00:39:56.760 Good fun, good fun.

00:39:58.520 And I think I got knocked out at like 3,000 out of, you know, 9,200.

00:40:04.740 I don't think I'm the best player in the world.

00:40:06.820 But, you know, I was having a conversation with this buyer who was like,

00:40:10.620 listen, man, it's really hard to get sponsors for all this stuff.

00:40:14.400 No one wants to go anywhere near it.

00:40:16.260 Nobody wants to go near the Candace stuff.

00:40:18.420 And I was like, I get it.

00:40:20.360 And people are burned on it all.

00:40:22.760 So we're talking with companies.

00:40:25.200 And this week we've been doing meetings where it's like the midterms are going to be hot.

00:40:30.260 We're going to be in D.C.

00:40:31.320 We're going to be doing interviews.

00:40:32.740 We got to figure out how to do a couple of things.

00:40:35.860 If we want to get sponsors and do these shows, the first and foremost, and every business person's mind is the bottom line.

00:40:43.020 Not your culture, not your traditions.

00:40:44.280 It's like, can this business work?

00:40:45.860 And one of the issues, of course, being that you've got hyper-partisanship.

00:40:51.280 So they said, what can we do?

00:40:52.700 It's like, okay, well, you know, we'll be in D.C.

00:40:55.040 We'll get access to more people, but we're not going to get sponsors with vitriolic, hyper-partisan stuff.

00:41:00.480 So how do we come together?

00:41:01.880 How do we have those adversarial but professional debates?

00:41:05.860 You know, like when I, we had Brian Shapiro on several times and we're in screaming matches,

00:41:09.220 but we're laughing, we're, we're laughing to, it gets heated and that's a little too

00:41:13.220 high energy for what sponsors want.

00:41:15.500 And so I said, there's a time and place for those things.

00:41:17.460 The podcasts work maybe for like the bigger shows.

00:41:20.520 We try to keep them, uh, adversarial, but professional.

00:41:25.540 And, uh, that was the agree, that's what we, we agree with.

00:41:28.220 I was talking to Ed, like we, we want to be, uh, adversarial, but we want to be professional,

00:41:33.700 right?

00:41:34.780 So we don't get angry.

00:41:35.580 We want to scream at each other.

00:41:36.920 And I think that's where we should take things 0.98

00:41:38.560 because these online blood sports screaming matches 0.88

00:41:40.740 have just fried our brains.

00:41:43.320 And you know what?

00:41:44.220 I said, maybe it doesn't work

00:41:45.480 because we don't want to watch it.

00:41:47.020 But I can tell you this.

00:41:47.700 Sponsors don't want the other thing. 0.58

00:41:49.580 Sponsors don't want the screaming matches. 0.99

00:41:50.780 They want to be associated with that.

00:41:51.980 Here's the other major point.

00:41:53.720 Culturally and traditionally.

00:41:56.240 Instantly, we're like, yeah.

00:41:57.860 And you know, if we can't sit down

00:41:59.040 and have like these professional

00:42:00.980 but adversarial debates with liberals,

00:42:03.340 between liberals and conservatives than civil war, right?

00:42:07.940 So the strategy that we're discussing is like going into next year,

00:42:11.520 we want to try, we're like, we at IRL want to try and have on as many people

00:42:15.100 from across the board as possible and be adversarial,

00:42:19.020 but not angry, screaming blood sports.

00:42:22.940 So we want it to be more like Real Time with Bill Maher was for a long time.

00:42:28.040 And I think he does a great job.

00:42:29.700 And that was actually what someone said.

00:42:30.880 It's like, oh yeah, you're like, look, Timcast IRL is kind of similar.

00:42:33.340 And I was like, right, we so so we need to be a bit more professional. We're not going to do the like the comedy opening or anything that he does. But I'm saying in terms of the panel portion, there have been some heated moments like when Ben Shapiro was arguing with some lib and they were insulting him. But we do want to have balance. And one of the reasons why is it is not entertaining anymore. It is it is anger inducing.

00:42:56.820 The other thing, too, is in this political space, the same conversation every single day, every day in the past several months, at least.

00:43:05.000 And that's why I said, guys, this is the time where we should probably go out and do promo stuff.

00:43:09.780 So playing in the World Series. I've got a big event coming up.

00:43:14.840 We got a big event coming up. It's a secret, so I can't say too much.

00:43:17.740 But we're super excited for the stuff we have planned. And the Casper Coffee Shop is opening up.

00:43:23.220 So one of the hardest things about running this business is that when I'm doing a morning

00:43:27.700 show and a nightly show, I have no time for business development, meaning going to sponsors,

00:43:32.260 outside promo, like, you know, Piers Morgan, shout out, his team hits him all the time

00:43:36.380 saying, can you come on and do these debates?

00:43:37.540 And I'm just like, I just can't because I do, I record four to five hours a day myself.

00:43:43.040 And you know what?

00:43:44.500 The reality is that only goes so far, right?

00:43:48.380 I have to go out and do promo outside and that makes it really challenging.

00:43:51.820 So anyway, last night I hang out with a bunch of libs and everyone's like, we're so burned

00:43:56.240 out.

00:43:56.820 We're just so sick of it.

00:43:57.920 And I was like, yeah, can we just have like some moderate lib, give a stern look and say

00:44:02.840 you're wrong.

00:44:03.440 And then like I laugh and say, well, you know, agree to disagree instead of this screaming

00:44:06.680 match blood sports stuff.

00:44:08.440 Cause we're all just so tired, you know?

00:44:10.760 So then I told the team, I was like, guys, I think I'm going to take the rest of the

00:44:13.820 week because there's a bunch of big events that I want to try and do.

00:44:17.720 I could do well.

00:44:18.600 There's like some dailies.

00:44:19.400 if i if i do well if i win win one we get some press coverage i got featured on poker news

00:44:24.740 and uh the idea is uh busted out ace king suited versus aces uh questionable call but

00:44:32.020 it's funny because like almost everybody i talked to the pros are like what are you gonna do you

00:44:36.140 know what i mean and uh in hindsight i'm like i kind of wish i would fold it but i'm only saying

00:44:41.400 that because uh i busted out if i had doubled up i would have been like let's roll but you know it

00:44:48.140 is what it is. You try to make the right moves, and then there's, we call it variance, but there's

00:44:52.280 luck involved. You play well, and then some people just hit it better than you. My boy Robbie

00:44:57.740 cashed like top 120 in the UltraStack tournament, which were like massive, massive. He made it

00:45:04.960 really far. It was a two-day event, so he did really, really well. But, you know, like what

00:45:09.820 I was telling guys, like, listen, the only press I ever get is like, I'll say something on my show,

00:45:14.300 and then some whack-a-loon lefty will be like, 0.69

00:45:16.140 Tim Pool says dumb thing, right? 0.97

00:45:18.660 Conservatives will watch the show, 0.98

00:45:19.620 moderates will watch the show.

00:45:20.640 And I was like, you know,

00:45:22.140 I go to an event like the WSOP

00:45:23.260 and then they're going to write about it.

00:45:24.580 There's going to be other people who meet me.

00:45:26.660 And that's the kind of thing.

00:45:27.680 It's like making appearances in other places.

00:45:29.040 You've got to do that stuff.

00:45:30.040 It's hard to do when I'm recording 24-7.

00:45:32.660 So I'm aiming today to be here for IRL

00:45:35.100 just because this has grinding my gears.

00:45:37.120 I woke up and I'm like,

00:45:38.240 guys, prep the studio, I'm coming in.

00:45:39.820 And I'm like, I know there's tournaments,

00:45:41.080 there's events going on.

00:45:41.760 I don't care, I'm coming in.

00:45:43.520 So, you know, it is what it is.

00:45:46.340 But I can say a lot more on this stuff.

00:45:48.740 I can debate it all.

00:45:50.380 Brian Atlas is like, come on, Candace, you know, debate Andrew Wilson on this stuff.

00:45:56.160 You know, I'm going to say this to you, Clint, the most disappointing thing.

00:46:00.460 What are you doing?

00:46:02.680 You know, what are you doing?

00:46:05.020 What is this?

00:46:06.980 I'm just so sick of it. 1.00

00:46:08.980 Politics is fake and gay. 1.00

00:46:10.120 Everybody's fake. 1.00

00:46:11.060 Everybody's fake. 0.90

00:46:12.660 it's funny, you go to the poker table

00:46:15.120 and you're literally sitting down with people

00:46:16.500 who are intent on lying to you

00:46:17.560 for the purpose of winning a game,

00:46:19.120 but in between, it's a fairly honest place, you know?

00:46:23.940 Everybody's laughing, hanging out.

00:46:25.780 And that's the thing about it.

00:46:27.160 That's why we're setting up this poker show.

00:46:29.460 Not because we want to have a high-stakes gambling show.

00:46:33.180 I hate that.

00:46:34.560 Because we want to have a talk show 1.00

00:46:35.820 where the dudes, the ladies, 1.00

00:46:37.400 people are just hanging out on a Friday night.

00:46:39.360 The point of the poker show, Poker with the Boys,

00:46:41.140 is not meant to be, you know, you're watching a guy and he's got his face covered and he's got

00:46:47.500 his face covered. He's covering sunglasses on. That's boring. The point is I can be sitting

00:46:52.500 there talking to, you know, my boy Robbie and we look at our cards and I'm like, you think you

00:46:56.680 believe Candace? I mean, come on. Like, so we're having a conversation over a game of poker. So

00:47:00.800 we're laughing. We're having fun. That's the game plan to bring some fun back. But other than that,

00:47:05.360 you know, I was talking with some of the execs down here in Vegas and some of these

00:47:10.640 pros. I made a tweet about it. Vegas is hurting. Hotels and gambling is hurting in Vegas,

00:47:18.940 despite gambling being on the rise because of apps. There's a variety of reasons for this.

00:47:23.600 Real estate market's bad. The media space is really bad. And it's a dark time. People are

00:47:30.800 trying to figure out, what do we do? And where are we going? Things are particularly bad for

00:47:36.680 this time of year you know it's uh it's july it's summer but uh ad rates are really low it's

00:47:42.920 pretty wild like youtube's got this new thing where i can see the ad rates and it's surprising

00:47:45.860 being like wow like the ad rates are just down the economy is not not doing well and blame whoever

00:47:53.200 you want trump's the president right so let's figure it out the iran war is never ending

00:47:57.820 obvious it's funny i remember when the mou came out i'm like this is it the war is over and i'm

00:48:02.680 like or is it not because we're just yo-yoing back and forth so people are burned on it all

00:48:07.420 they're burned on it all and this stuff that like clint and candace is doing it's it's trying it's

00:48:13.520 trying to squeeze it's it's trying to scrape the bottom of the barrel the only problem is you've

00:48:18.680 scraped the bottom of the barrel so hard you're pulling up wood chips ain't nothing left man

00:48:23.900 ain't nothing left so in terms of you know talk radio and podcast clips and debates we're we're

00:48:31.260 investing heavily into the next year with the midterms and all this stuff. But we're going to

00:48:35.820 try and set up more meaningful conversations. And I'm also, we're talking with bringing back

00:48:40.540 the Culture War format in the original. So originally, Culture War was sitting on interviews.

00:48:45.780 And so we have a production company we've been working with, and they said, like, let's do this

00:48:49.600 again. Let's bring it back. We'll bring it to DC. Then we can do more one-on-ones. And I said,

00:48:53.700 let's roll, baby. So we're going to have the Tim Pool monologue, the Tim Pool panel show,

00:48:58.640 and the Tim Pool one-on-one interviews.

00:49:00.820 In the meantime, it's summer.

00:49:02.360 People aren't paying attention all that much

00:49:03.580 to what's going on right now in the world.

00:49:05.380 They're kind of just trying to relax

00:49:06.640 and get away from all this nonsense.

00:49:08.500 And I don't blame them.

00:49:10.000 I hope you all do the same.

00:49:11.420 Smash that like button.

00:49:12.380 Share the show with everyone you've ever met in your life.

00:49:14.400 Follow me on Instagram at TimCast.

00:49:16.360 I appreciate it, guys.

00:49:18.200 And we'll see you all for TimCast.IRL.

The Culture War - Tim Pool - July 09, 2026

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