The Culture War - Tim Pool - Death Threats Against Conservatives SKYROCKET After Charlie Kirk Assassination ft. Steven Crowder

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00:01:00.240 People are talking about taking that place

00:01:01.780 and picking up the microphone.

00:01:03.220 I get it.

00:01:03.620 It's very touching.

00:01:04.540 People need to know

00:01:05.260 that there are still crosshairs on that microphone,

00:01:08.340 and people need to take it seriously.

00:01:10.160 So when people say that I'm being irresponsible,

00:01:12.480 I am doing the most responsible thing

00:01:14.460 I can think to do

00:01:15.440 in trying to write maybe some errors,

00:01:18.820 mistakes on my part.

00:01:19.880 I told people it was dangerous.

00:01:21.000 I didn't tell them the entire extent,

00:01:24.420 and I hope people know and take it seriously.

00:01:26.540 And the only thing that's going to curb it

00:01:27.860 is for the left to be afraid to even think of it.

00:01:31.680 Since the assassination of Charlie Kirk,

00:01:34.600 death threats have been skyrocketing across the board.

00:01:37.340 On every social media platform,

00:01:38.580 you are seeing lists of names be produced,

00:01:40.940 and they are engaging in terroristic threats.

00:01:44.140 It is borderline overt.

00:01:45.940 I say borderline because what I call

00:01:47.620 Tweedledee Tweedledum threats,

00:01:48.880 where one person says, 1.00

00:01:50.780 I think more conservatives should die. 0.99

00:01:53.320 Someone then says, 1.00

00:01:54.180 here's a list of the people that should die.

00:01:56.260 And none of them is creating the imminent threat,

00:01:58.680 but together it forms an imminent threat.

00:02:01.000 So the question now is,

00:02:02.360 how do we deal with this?

00:02:03.800 And no, it's not just fringe far leftists.

00:02:06.560 Take a look at this from the post-millennial.

00:02:08.840 Local Democratic Party in Washington

00:02:10.620 deletes post-mocking assassination of Charlie Kirk.

00:02:14.160 It is overt.

00:02:15.760 It is obvious.

00:02:17.020 It is happening across the board.

00:02:18.400 It's affecting everybody.

00:02:19.340 So to get a better sense of what's going on,

00:02:21.040 we are being joined by the man himself,

00:02:23.160 Steven Crowder,

00:02:24.060 to give us an understanding of what his perspective is,

00:02:26.520 what's been happening to him.

00:02:27.440 I've obviously talked a lot about

00:02:29.260 what we are going through here.

00:02:31.240 Security assessments, increased security,

00:02:32.860 it's getting crazy.

00:02:34.160 How's it going, Steven Crowder?

00:02:35.180 How you doing?

00:02:37.300 Well, I appreciate, thanks for the intro.

00:02:40.120 Here's the thing,

00:02:40.680 I wouldn't even necessarily say that it's different.

00:02:43.060 And that's what I think is so bothersome,

00:02:45.500 is we have lived under this cloud for very, very long.

00:02:49.140 Anytime we show up, anytime, you know,

00:02:51.900 when I've talked about this and Charlie said it as an inspiration,

00:02:55.220 he took it to a different level,

00:02:56.660 even changed my mind was an idea to challenge the left in 2016

00:03:00.180 on the idea of civil dialogue.

00:03:02.140 Like, we'll just, we'll do it.

00:03:03.720 It won't be cable news.

00:03:04.460 It won't be edited.

00:03:04.980 And it became increasingly violent.

00:03:08.040 I mean, I've had, so to give you an idea,

00:03:10.480 and the left always says,

00:03:11.440 oh, you're fine, you're okay.

00:03:12.760 I had a trans, and if this is on YouTube,

00:03:15.900 I had a trans individual, 0.61

00:03:18.000 you scream at me and then steal a homeless man's 0.93

00:03:20.740 lunchbox pencil case, whip it at me from a blind spot. 0.57

00:03:23.680 I've had someone try to bash me over the head with a rock.

00:03:25.480 I've had attempts with concrete milkshakes,

00:03:27.820 slash tires, calls to firebomb the car,

00:03:31.020 attempts on my life, actually a terrorist.

00:03:33.120 And I haven't talked about this until now.

00:03:34.780 And you know this because the real threats,

00:03:36.420 you don't want copycats.

00:03:37.560 Yep.

00:03:37.920 Terrorists from Yemen by way of Sweden, 0.93

00:03:40.000 posting the address, my family's work address,

00:03:42.180 the route to, between the addresses.

00:03:45.180 And I can only, my life is likely saved

00:03:47.460 because a fan saw it posted on YouTube in a comment

00:03:51.040 and cross-referenced the zip code with East Grand Rapids PD

00:03:53.920 and they showed up at my house.

00:03:54.980 This has been going on for a very long time.

00:03:57.300 When I performed, when I did a change of my mind at SMU,

00:04:00.300 the man in charge of the police there,

00:04:02.760 I asked my, my father.

00:04:04.340 He said, why does he need this kind of security?

00:04:06.880 Maya Angelou was here however many years ago.

00:04:08.700 She didn't need it.

00:04:09.940 And my dad turned to him and said,

00:04:11.240 why do you think that is?

00:04:13.140 Yeah.

00:04:13.720 And you could see the lights turn on.

00:04:15.320 I hope, and to be clear,

00:04:16.640 because I know I've, you know,

00:04:17.560 made some waves by advocating violence.

00:04:20.060 I am.

00:04:20.940 Not even political violence.

00:04:22.220 I'm advocating for lawful violence, 0.86

00:04:25.120 protection of you and your own,

00:04:27.760 where grace has been afforded before.

00:04:29.760 What I mean is, if you were in a restaurant,

00:04:32.480 if you were at your school recital for your kids

00:04:35.220 and someone came up and was throwing a milkshake at you,

00:04:38.620 or you don't know if it's strawberry, chocolate, 1.00

00:04:40.340 vanilla, acid, or concrete, you'd beat their ass. 0.99

00:04:42.660 We haven't because we've been taking the high road. 0.99

00:04:45.520 And so it's been open season.

00:04:47.140 We are being hunted.

00:04:48.780 Charlie Kirk was hunted.

00:04:51.000 Let's be very clear about that.

00:04:52.540 And what you're seeing, Tim, you know this,

00:04:54.240 and everyone behind is afraid because I get it.

00:04:57.180 No one wants to, you don't want to make it about yourself,

00:04:58.860 but I know what you've been through.

00:05:00.480 I know what you've been through.

00:05:01.600 And I know that, you know,

00:05:02.560 people are just seeing the one that got through.

00:05:04.420 And when you block and you block and you block

00:05:06.080 and you block all of these other assaults,

00:05:07.880 all of these other attempts,

00:05:09.300 people say, well, you're fine.

00:05:10.360 You're a big guy, right?

00:05:11.680 No, that stops now.

00:05:13.860 I want the left.

00:05:14.760 I want Destiny to be able to do his copycat,

00:05:17.120 change my mind thing with no security, as he has done.

00:05:19.480 I hope that they can continue to speak freely

00:05:21.740 with very little security for the rest of their lives.

00:05:25.120 I want the left to be deathly afraid of showing up to ours

00:05:29.340 and even thinking about being violently disruptive.

00:05:33.120 I hope that I've been crystal clear.

00:05:35.160 And if people have a problem with it,

00:05:37.000 I will answer for anything I've said.

00:05:39.260 You know, I hear what you're saying.

00:05:40.560 What people don't understand is,

00:05:42.960 it's like you said,

00:05:43.820 only the one that gets through is what people hear about.

00:05:46.240 I cannot begin to list out all of the instances we've had

00:05:50.740 or the death threats that we get

00:05:52.540 because it creates security issues.

00:05:55.240 So we've had,

00:05:56.600 I have had dealt with local police,

00:05:59.420 criminal prosecutions, lawsuits.

00:06:02.280 I have had people who have committed crimes against us

00:06:05.320 threaten legal action,

00:06:06.900 which threatens the lives of other people.

00:06:09.020 I can't get into great details on this.

00:06:11.000 I know, I get it.

00:06:12.060 That's the problem, right?

00:06:13.000 You can't.

00:06:13.500 And so the left goes, 1.00

00:06:14.300 oh, Tim Pool, little drama bitch, 1.00

00:06:16.640 or whatever they say. 0.99

00:06:17.280 And I didn't mean to be so rough on you.

00:06:18.400 I'm trying to, you know,

00:06:19.080 I'm trying to steel man them. 0.99

00:06:20.800 And drama bitches is probably about as good as they can do. 1.00

00:06:22.540 It's crazy how, 0.98

00:06:23.800 trying to keep this as vague as I can

00:06:25.280 for obvious security reasons.

00:06:26.800 Yeah.

00:06:27.260 One threat that we had

00:06:28.740 that manifested in physical action,

00:06:30.880 when we tried to get it dealt with,

00:06:33.580 the legal response threatened the life

00:06:35.760 of a third party public personality.

00:06:38.920 And so our lawyer was basically like,

00:06:43.180 you can fight this and win,

00:06:45.940 and then they will use that against you

00:06:48.240 to target the third party.

00:06:49.760 Right.

00:06:50.280 Or you can choose to back off,

00:06:51.900 stop the fight.

00:06:53.120 They were effectively,

00:06:54.140 it was like blackmail.

00:06:55.360 And for security reasons,

00:06:57.340 I can't even begin to describe

00:06:58.280 what exactly was going on

00:06:59.360 or how it would play out,

00:07:00.240 because that would open the door

00:07:01.900 and create the threats.

00:07:02.780 It's insane.

00:07:03.680 We had a man in a dress 0.99

00:07:04.800 show up at our old location

00:07:06.660 and physically attack 0.53

00:07:07.860 one of the residents.

00:07:08.760 We're not there anymore.

00:07:10.180 We're not there.

00:07:11.560 Well, plus it's gross.

00:07:12.940 Yeah.

00:07:13.700 But so apparently this guy

00:07:15.640 shows up in a dress,

00:07:16.920 and I'm not saying trans person.

00:07:18.500 This is a clear distinction.

00:07:19.780 It was literally just a man in a dress 0.82

00:07:21.460 and was walking around

00:07:23.560 on our old property filming.

00:07:26.000 And I got informed by our security

00:07:27.780 that this was occurring.

00:07:28.920 The next day,

00:07:29.900 one of the people who live there,

00:07:30.900 because again,

00:07:31.400 we don't operate there anymore,

00:07:32.840 was physically attacked by this man.

00:07:35.340 And it became a huge issue.

00:07:37.000 The locals are all really pissed off

00:07:39.100 because they were mad when I was there

00:07:41.820 because of the threats,

00:07:42.660 the swattings,

00:07:43.200 the bomb threats.

00:07:44.060 We had the bomb squad come several times.

00:07:46.120 And now I'm gone,

00:07:47.640 and it's still happening

00:07:48.420 because these people

00:07:49.800 have still published our old address

00:07:51.240 acting like it's real.

00:07:52.500 If I list out all of the things

00:07:54.600 that we had to deal with,

00:07:55.700 one recent incident this past weekend,

00:07:57.560 just days after Charlie Kirk's assassination,

00:07:59.520 I think the unfortunate reality is

00:08:02.880 we can't convey the true extent

00:08:05.340 of how dangerous the left is

00:08:07.500 because it increases the danger to us.

00:08:09.800 But as you've already pointed out,

00:08:11.240 then people don't know

00:08:12.400 just how serious it is.

00:08:13.940 Well, that's what,

00:08:14.820 I mean, you know,

00:08:15.300 there's been a lot of mixed emotions.

00:08:17.140 And I'm not talking about,

00:08:18.900 now I've been really clear too

00:08:20.160 because I feel like there's a lot

00:08:21.220 of clout chasing out there.

00:08:22.160 People saying,

00:08:22.660 me and Charlie Kirk were best friends.

00:08:24.100 I have said,

00:08:24.460 Charlie Kirk and I were not close friends.

00:08:26.380 We were colleagues. 0.95

00:08:27.420 I had respect for his testicular,

00:08:29.520 fortitude as all of us did.

00:08:31.260 And we were cordial.

00:08:31.880 That's it.

00:08:32.580 So I don't want to claim

00:08:33.400 that I speak for him.

00:08:34.460 And I don't want to claim

00:08:35.340 that I know what his family thinks

00:08:36.560 because people will throw that back.

00:08:37.740 A lot of other people are doing that.

00:08:39.380 But I will say this,

00:08:40.620 I guarantee you he was scared.

00:08:43.580 He was brave.

00:08:44.800 He wasn't fearless.

00:08:45.600 He was brave.

00:08:46.400 He knew,

00:08:47.160 and I was angry at first

00:08:48.120 because I watched it.

00:08:49.220 And I go,

00:08:50.060 like we stopped doing,

00:08:51.660 changed my mind a while ago

00:08:52.360 because of the security risk, right?

00:08:53.540 And we go,

00:08:53.760 no, you don't announce it beforehand.

00:08:55.200 We never,

00:08:55.480 I go like,

00:08:55.760 ah, the speaker,

00:08:57.080 the balcony is like,

00:08:57.960 these are part of a protocol

00:08:59.160 that we had.

00:09:00.640 And then it came to,

00:09:02.960 look,

00:09:03.640 I mean,

00:09:03.820 why didn't I pick up a phone?

00:09:05.940 You know,

00:09:06.380 I've been through that.

00:09:07.260 And the truth is,

00:09:08.840 I did this initially,

00:09:10.220 and I know about

00:09:10.780 all the security threats.

00:09:11.500 And like you said,

00:09:12.040 because I didn't want copycats,

00:09:13.600 I would tell people

00:09:14.400 I had some close calls.

00:09:15.640 Yeah.

00:09:15.800 And I see kids going out there

00:09:17.280 and I get it.

00:09:18.700 And the alternative is silence

00:09:20.080 and we cannot be terrorized

00:09:21.820 into silence.

00:09:22.500 But I want people to know,

00:09:23.680 and I should have been clearer about it,

00:09:25.500 that out there is the real world.

00:09:26.700 And in the real world,

00:09:27.540 there are psychos.

00:09:28.300 And if I would have told people

00:09:29.880 the violence then

00:09:31.080 that they face, 1.00

00:09:31.940 that the left wants you dead, 1.00

00:09:33.940 they will take your life. 1.00

00:09:35.380 And if they are unsuccessful, 0.91

00:09:36.500 they will take your name.

00:09:38.580 Maybe we could have had

00:09:39.460 a different outcome.

00:09:40.280 I don't know,

00:09:41.080 but I do know this.

00:09:41.960 If someone is going to try

00:09:43.160 and people are talking

00:09:44.240 about taking that place

00:09:45.120 and picking up the microphone,

00:09:46.500 I get it.

00:09:46.940 It's very touching.

00:09:47.860 People need to know

00:09:48.580 that there are still crosshairs

00:09:50.400 on that microphone

00:09:51.480 and people need to take it seriously.

00:09:53.220 So when people say

00:09:54.440 that I'm being irresponsible,

00:09:55.820 I am doing the most responsible thing

00:09:57.780 I can think to do

00:09:58.760 in trying to write

00:10:00.440 maybe some errors,

00:10:02.140 mistakes on my part.

00:10:03.200 I told people it was dangerous.

00:10:04.660 I didn't tell them

00:10:05.520 the entire extent.

00:10:07.740 And I hope people know

00:10:08.780 and take it seriously.

00:10:09.880 And the only thing

00:10:10.520 that's going to curb it

00:10:11.180 is for the left

00:10:12.360 to be afraid

00:10:13.360 to even think of it.

00:10:14.940 We have afforded them grace

00:10:16.080 where they do not deserve it.

00:10:17.840 And I make no apologies for this.

00:10:19.400 I'm not calling for a civil war.

00:10:20.740 I'm not calling for people

00:10:22.240 to go out

00:10:22.800 and violently disrupt

00:10:24.200 the left in any way.

00:10:25.580 And here's the thing.

00:10:26.820 No one is afraid of that.

00:10:27.980 Do you know how I know?

00:10:29.140 Because they desecrate

00:10:30.160 the memorials

00:10:30.900 and spit at the vigils right now.

00:10:32.700 They still do it

00:10:33.680 with no fear.

00:10:35.620 Impunity.

00:10:36.120 No fear.

00:10:36.480 Complete impunity.

00:10:37.600 And that has to stop.

00:10:38.880 And the big difference,

00:10:39.620 I've said this,

00:10:40.520 between 2008 me on YouTube,

00:10:42.260 2012 me,

00:10:43.060 2015 me,

00:10:44.940 Charlie Kirk and me,

00:10:46.320 is this team of people

00:10:46.880 we've said our money

00:10:47.520 will hurt you.

00:10:49.460 We will.

00:10:50.020 And that has to happen

00:10:51.040 and I hope I see more guys out there

00:10:52.700 willing to protect,

00:10:53.800 not be violent offensively,

00:10:56.100 protect our own

00:10:57.160 because we have it.

00:10:58.260 Lawful self-defense.

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00:11:29.400 And this is a good point

00:11:31.520 you bring up

00:11:31.840 because there's a viral video,

00:11:33.540 I commented on it,

00:11:34.820 where it showed

00:11:35.800 all these instances

00:11:36.720 where people on the right

00:11:37.740 had gone to rallies

00:11:38.480 and got attacked

00:11:39.080 and they never defend themselves.

00:11:41.460 It was very rare.

00:11:43.180 There was like

00:11:43.680 based stick man

00:11:44.660 back in, you know what,

00:11:45.440 2018 or whatever.

00:11:46.900 The one time

00:11:47.740 a right winger

00:11:48.800 after the left came

00:11:50.700 and attacked

00:11:51.220 a peaceful rally,

00:11:52.200 they defended themselves.

00:11:53.740 So I,

00:11:54.780 and I agree,

00:11:55.380 look at this.

00:11:56.180 It is still you and I

00:11:57.220 talking about the restraint

00:11:58.160 we need to have,

00:11:59.540 how we don't want

00:12:00.180 an escalation of violence,

00:12:01.020 but we have to be prepared

00:12:01.940 when they engage

00:12:03.240 in violence against us

00:12:04.080 for legal, lawful self-defense

00:12:06.400 to stop that from happening.

00:12:07.660 But I want to,

00:12:08.160 I want to say something.

00:12:08.920 You just said

00:12:09.440 there are psychos out there

00:12:10.760 and here's where

00:12:11.340 it's truly scary.

00:12:13.120 I've long said,

00:12:14.940 maybe even six months ago,

00:12:16.960 I'm not scared of Antifa.

00:12:19.540 I don't fear leftists.

00:12:21.600 They make these threats online.

00:12:23.140 We take them seriously,

00:12:23.900 but I'm more worried 0.86

00:12:25.380 about the lunatic 0.96

00:12:26.540 who thinks I stole 0.98

00:12:27.660 all of his spoons

00:12:28.460 and have hid them

00:12:29.020 in my basement

00:12:29.560 because some of the most egregious-

00:12:33.340 You don't have entirely

00:12:34.300 clean hands on that one.

00:12:35.480 We know that you collect spoons, Tim.

00:12:37.340 No, well, it's Seamus Coughlin,

00:12:38.680 but that's a whole other story.

00:12:40.260 Throwing us off the scent. 0.70

00:12:41.860 So I've had psychopaths.

00:12:43.860 A lot of the most serious threats

00:12:45.380 that we get

00:12:45.900 that we forward to the FBI

00:12:46.780 and things like that 0.98

00:12:47.460 are just lunatics 0.99

00:12:49.120 saying things that make no sense 1.00

00:12:51.020 but are serious threats.

00:12:52.940 This changes now.

00:12:53.920 And while I always consider

00:12:56.320 the left to be

00:12:56.860 a very serious threat

00:12:57.740 and we have security

00:12:58.380 because of the left,

00:13:00.300 Charlie Kirk didn't even believe

00:13:01.940 that this was possible.

00:13:04.020 If Charlie Kirk thought

00:13:05.240 by stepping out into that tent 0.98

00:13:07.000 he would take a bullet, 0.93

00:13:07.920 he wouldn't have done it.

00:13:09.180 We thought security was good enough,

00:13:11.780 it's not going to happen,

00:13:12.720 and it did.

00:13:13.800 And I'll tell you

00:13:14.420 where the real fear comes now.

00:13:16.400 I have friends on Facebook

00:13:17.800 that I have known for decades

00:13:18.980 since I was a child.

00:13:20.580 I have gone to holiday

00:13:21.500 dinners with them.

00:13:22.460 Let me guess.

00:13:22.880 Hold on.

00:13:23.240 Before you tell me this,

00:13:24.020 because I just had this conversation

00:13:25.080 three times this week.

00:13:26.060 All right.

00:13:26.240 Let's see if I'm clairvoyant.

00:13:27.420 Let me guess.

00:13:28.980 Shocked at the gleeful celebration

00:13:30.620 or condoning of the assassination

00:13:32.160 and you're no longer friends.

00:13:33.500 Am I close?

00:13:34.280 You are.

00:13:34.740 You hit the nail on the head.

00:13:37.780 I have seen posts

00:13:38.980 that have argued

00:13:40.320 Trump killed Charlie Kirk

00:13:42.720 to justify an expansion

00:13:44.660 of the security state

00:13:45.900 from people I know

00:13:47.380 who know that

00:13:48.280 Charlie and I were friends.

00:13:49.920 And I heard what you said

00:13:50.940 about you're not close friends.

00:13:52.100 I would also like to

00:13:53.060 make sure I clarify this too.

00:13:54.540 It's a weird thing, right?

00:13:56.060 I knew Charlie.

00:13:57.260 I had his phone number.

00:13:58.040 We texted.

00:13:58.760 We didn't go out for beers

00:13:59.720 or go golfing or anything.

00:14:01.000 But I didn't consider him

00:14:02.060 just to be a work colleague

00:14:03.060 because of the support

00:14:03.960 that he had offered me.

00:14:04.820 I considered it to be

00:14:05.680 a friend.

00:14:08.000 And there are many people

00:14:09.180 that I don't hang out with

00:14:09.760 I consider to be friends.

00:14:10.980 But I don't want people

00:14:11.620 to think that we were like

00:14:12.840 bar buddies or anything like that.

00:14:14.280 You were closer with him

00:14:15.300 than I was.

00:14:15.800 And I just want to be clear

00:14:17.080 about that

00:14:17.360 because I know that people go,

00:14:18.460 do you think this is what

00:14:19.520 Charlie would have wanted?

00:14:20.500 Well, I don't know.

00:14:21.020 He's dead.

00:14:21.640 I don't know.

00:14:22.200 He's dead.

00:14:22.540 He can't speak.

00:14:23.120 And he's dead because

00:14:23.740 he sat down at a table

00:14:24.640 and allowed anyone

00:14:25.400 who would speak

00:14:26.620 or listen to have a conversation.

00:14:28.640 And very few people

00:14:29.200 know what it's like

00:14:29.680 to be in that chair.

00:14:30.840 I do.

00:14:31.800 I know what it feels like.

00:14:33.480 I know when you're surrounded. 0.99

00:14:35.320 I know the kind of balls 0.91

00:14:36.240 it took for Charlie Kirk to do. 0.99

00:14:37.440 He is dead.

00:14:39.060 And so when people say

00:14:39.740 tone down the temperature,

00:14:40.640 well, hot.

00:14:41.600 Oh, you know what?

00:14:42.560 Let's host a vigil.

00:14:43.280 Well, I can't do that.

00:14:44.060 You know what?

00:14:44.820 Let's host an event.

00:14:46.720 Can't do that.

00:14:47.740 Let's do a tour.

00:14:49.180 Can't do that.

00:14:49.920 So what they really mean

00:14:50.620 is silence.

00:14:51.800 Yep.

00:14:52.240 Or do you really

00:14:52.820 or how much do you want

00:14:53.700 your kids to have a father? 0.72

00:14:54.760 It is terrorism.

00:14:56.860 One thing I would say,

00:14:57.660 I don't,

00:14:58.780 and I'm not supposed

00:14:59.400 to disagree with you.

00:15:00.200 I don't know

00:15:01.040 if Charlie Kirk

00:15:01.760 did know

00:15:02.940 or didn't think

00:15:03.940 it was possible.

00:15:05.540 I hope that he knew

00:15:06.800 it was possible

00:15:07.500 because I very much did.

00:15:09.500 I mean,

00:15:09.620 we had some,

00:15:10.440 which I'll talk about

00:15:11.240 probably more off air,

00:15:12.000 some serious close calls

00:15:13.300 where every time

00:15:14.500 I've been out in public,

00:15:15.120 I've known that it's

00:15:16.200 a very serious possibility.

00:15:18.140 And I know that he knew risk.

00:15:19.600 So whether he thought

00:15:20.420 he would pay with his life

00:15:22.380 to a terrorist,

00:15:23.560 I don't know.

00:15:24.180 But I know he went out there

00:15:25.700 and did it anyway,

00:15:26.340 assuming some risk.

00:15:27.400 And the left doesn't do that.

00:15:28.740 They don't have to.

00:15:29.440 It only comes from the left.

00:15:30.780 I agree with you on that.

00:15:31.580 And what I mean to say is

00:15:32.680 we all think it's possible.

00:15:35.520 But my point is

00:15:36.540 if Charlie Kirk knew

00:15:37.680 at that moment

00:15:38.340 walking out meant

00:15:39.340 there was a guy 0.98

00:15:39.960 waiting to kill him, 0.97

00:15:40.540 he wouldn't have done it. 0.99

00:15:41.200 No one is going to walk

00:15:42.440 into death intentionally

00:15:43.660 for no reason.

00:15:44.980 We all assume the risk.

00:15:46.640 That's why Charlie had security

00:15:47.980 because, of course,

00:15:49.200 it's a possibility.

00:15:50.480 What's scary now is

00:15:51.580 when run-of-the-mill

00:15:53.280 default libs,

00:15:54.300 we call them,

00:15:55.360 are posting justification,

00:15:57.960 lying about Charlie Kirk,

00:15:59.240 or saying other people

00:16:01.080 deserve it too.

00:16:02.240 I'm sitting here

00:16:02.960 looking at these posts

00:16:03.760 from people that I've known

00:16:04.600 my whole life.

00:16:05.440 And I messaged one friend

00:16:06.760 saying,

00:16:07.120 you realize that

00:16:07.920 the guy was a friend of mine

00:16:09.640 that for three years

00:16:11.540 we would go out

00:16:12.660 and visit,

00:16:13.060 we would do this show with him

00:16:13.980 and he would sit with us.

00:16:15.200 He's been on the show

00:16:15.620 several times.

00:16:16.480 No response.

00:16:17.800 They've cut me off.

00:16:19.580 And to see other people,

00:16:20.820 my whole feed

00:16:21.720 is filled with

00:16:22.660 every liberal being like

00:16:23.820 other people

00:16:24.800 deserve what's coming.

00:16:26.040 And that's when I realized

00:16:27.060 the fear we have now

00:16:28.880 and the increase

00:16:29.460 in death threats

00:16:30.080 and the increase in security,

00:16:31.880 a line has been crossed

00:16:32.960 and it didn't.

00:16:34.860 You know,

00:16:35.120 I was asked the other night,

00:16:36.020 one of our members

00:16:36.680 in the call and show,

00:16:37.280 do you think this will

00:16:38.020 wake the left up

00:16:38.860 and they'll calm down?

00:16:39.960 We've already seen the inverse.

00:16:41.440 It's a green light for them.

00:16:43.560 Yes.

00:16:43.840 Let me tell you,

00:16:44.340 there would have been

00:16:45.200 one acceptable response

00:16:47.340 from the left

00:16:47.780 and only one.

00:16:49.240 Would have been,

00:16:50.060 okay,

00:16:50.280 all right,

00:16:50.580 guys,

00:16:50.940 guys,

00:16:51.800 this one's on us. 0.89

00:16:53.280 We called you fascists, 0.97

00:16:54.620 we called you Nazis 0.97

00:16:55.320 and we know,

00:16:56.060 right,

00:16:56.700 you don't deal with fascists

00:16:57.660 at the ballot box,

00:16:58.400 you can't.

00:16:58.940 So we box people

00:16:59.960 into violence.

00:17:00.560 Hey,

00:17:00.800 guys,

00:17:01.120 this one's on us.

00:17:01.920 We presented every single view

00:17:03.420 from those on the right

00:17:04.180 as violence.

00:17:04.820 If they were pro-life,

00:17:05.960 it was violence against women. 1.00

00:17:06.920 If they were pro-Second Amendment,

00:17:07.940 it was violence

00:17:08.740 because how many lives

00:17:09.920 do you want to save,

00:17:10.560 right,

00:17:10.700 gun violence.

00:17:11.340 If it was pro-First Amendment,

00:17:12.340 they were inciting violence.

00:17:13.600 If they were anti-Black Lives Matter,

00:17:14.800 they were pro-police 1.00

00:17:15.660 killing black violence. 0.99

00:17:16.900 And at the end of this, 1.00

00:17:18.320 if they're silent,

00:17:19.680 it's also violence.

00:17:20.880 So when every single one

00:17:22.600 of our positions

00:17:23.500 has been presented

00:17:24.940 as violence

00:17:25.960 that cannot be dealt

00:17:27.300 with democratically,

00:17:28.340 it is a logical conclusion 0.99

00:17:30.400 from the mentally ill 0.98

00:17:31.560 that we are living

00:17:32.220 and that is a useful tool

00:17:33.460 to the left.

00:17:34.380 And I remember, too,

00:17:35.220 I mean,

00:17:35.760 when you were coming in,

00:17:37.260 I don't want to mislabel you,

00:17:38.160 but more moderate than me,

00:17:39.300 I think that's fair to say,

00:17:40.700 I've been having conversations

00:17:41.460 saying,

00:17:41.780 man, 1.00

00:17:41.920 these guys will kill you. 1.00

00:17:43.120 You're not their friend anymore. 0.99

00:17:44.060 I don't think you understand

00:17:45.040 because I was raised in it.

00:17:46.640 I've known two conservatives

00:17:47.860 my entire life

00:17:48.960 from my childhood,

00:17:49.920 socialist problems.

00:17:50.780 One of them still works

00:17:51.960 for me right now.

00:17:53.320 I then spent time

00:17:54.360 in comedy clubs

00:17:55.160 in Hollywood.

00:17:56.000 I was only surrounded

00:17:57.000 by the left.

00:17:57.640 As a matter of fact,

00:17:58.200 it took me a while

00:17:58.660 to kind of understand

00:17:59.380 the Fox News audience.

00:18:00.400 I was there for four years.

00:18:01.640 I was a conservative.

00:18:02.760 I didn't run in those circles.

00:18:04.120 I know how the left operates.

00:18:05.720 That would have been

00:18:06.260 the only acceptable response.

00:18:07.740 Instead,

00:18:08.660 they said,

00:18:09.580 hey,

00:18:09.860 both sides,

00:18:10.580 that's verifiably untrue.

00:18:11.880 They said,

00:18:12.220 actually,

00:18:12.600 this shooter is a Trump supporter.

00:18:15.320 Remember,

00:18:15.660 we had that DOJ leak.

00:18:18.000 People said I was lying.

00:18:20.260 Right?

00:18:20.380 This is the same thing

00:18:20.900 about the Nashville manifesto,

00:18:22.420 by the way.

00:18:22.720 It was a lie

00:18:23.300 until it was a liability.

00:18:24.840 And then the mayor,

00:18:27.040 the police,

00:18:28.240 and the FBI said

00:18:29.060 they would investigate

00:18:29.660 and sue me.

00:18:30.840 By the way,

00:18:31.800 that's one of the few instances

00:18:33.380 of political violence

00:18:34.580 on the left.

00:18:35.380 And Cato put a note

00:18:36.480 saying,

00:18:36.980 just note,

00:18:37.900 we did include

00:18:38.580 Covenant High School

00:18:39.600 even though it's considered

00:18:41.120 borderline

00:18:41.780 because the PD said

00:18:42.920 it's not ideologically motivated.

00:18:45.400 We were right.

00:18:46.260 And one thing,

00:18:47.220 just one thing.

00:18:48.020 When we released that,

00:18:49.200 that,

00:18:49.480 well,

00:18:50.120 two points here.

00:18:50.760 The reason we got that leak

00:18:52.040 from an inside source,

00:18:53.420 right,

00:18:53.780 the,

00:18:54.400 whenever it was,

00:18:54.940 within 24 hours

00:18:55.520 of the shooting,

00:18:56.300 because someone

00:18:56.940 at that department

00:18:57.940 was concerned

00:18:58.700 that it would be buried

00:18:59.640 because he had seen

00:19:01.060 things like this

00:19:01.680 buried before.

00:19:02.560 Here's the most important part.

00:19:04.700 Bullet engravings,

00:19:06.000 antifa sayings,

00:19:07.140 trans furry stuff, 0.98

00:19:09.040 the shooter's still out there.

00:19:10.440 And so's Charlie Kirk's family.

00:19:12.720 So's the Kirk family.

00:19:13.860 So are you.

00:19:14.860 So are,

00:19:15.560 so are my entire team.

00:19:17.200 And we're on the menu.

00:19:18.360 And the left was more concerned

00:19:20.240 with tar and tarring and feathering

00:19:22.360 my name,

00:19:23.700 your name,

00:19:24.240 than keeping people safe.

00:19:25.880 They lied.

00:19:26.700 And then they tried to blame it

00:19:28.480 on the people

00:19:29.500 who are the victim

00:19:30.300 of the violence.

00:19:31.460 They'll never get this right.

00:19:32.860 Ever.

00:19:34.000 Ever.

00:19:34.600 We are not going to hold hands.

00:19:36.620 We are not,

00:19:36.980 I am,

00:19:37.260 I am not going to unify

00:19:38.920 with the left

00:19:40.140 or the spineless right.

00:19:41.240 I do not count them

00:19:42.200 amongst us anymore.

00:19:43.040 And I think we need

00:19:43.960 a change in approach.

00:19:44.860 I speak for myself.

00:19:46.280 So there's the obvious,

00:19:47.500 the obvious question of

00:19:48.700 where that path leads us.

00:19:51.920 And I'm going to,

00:19:53.260 I'm going to say it like this

00:19:54.140 because everybody

00:19:54.540 who watches me knows

00:19:55.300 that we talk about

00:19:56.180 civil war periodically,

00:19:57.260 but more frequently

00:19:58.220 than others.

00:19:58.960 I certainly get the memes,

00:20:00.640 but we don't talk about it

00:20:01.620 that much,

00:20:02.260 but it does come up

00:20:02.760 quite a bit.

00:20:03.560 Yeah.

00:20:03.920 And I'm,

00:20:05.720 I'm taking credit

00:20:07.140 for my predictions

00:20:07.800 being correct in many ways,

00:20:09.100 though we haven't reached

00:20:10.240 the full fruition.

00:20:10.860 And the example

00:20:11.660 that I've given is

00:20:12.340 in September of 2020,

00:20:15.000 I said on this show

00:20:16.300 and on Tim Kest IRL,

00:20:17.500 that if Trump loses

00:20:18.800 in November,

00:20:19.420 his supporters,

00:20:20.240 they're going to go to DC,

00:20:21.200 they're going to storm

00:20:21.700 into the White House.

00:20:22.420 They will not accept

00:20:23.400 this defeat.

00:20:24.840 November came and went.

00:20:26.400 I was called paranoid,

00:20:27.520 crazy, 0.92

00:20:28.600 rage baiter, 1.00

00:20:29.640 pessimist, 0.85

00:20:30.180 blackpilled

00:20:30.620 by some on the right,

00:20:32.760 all of the left.

00:20:33.780 They mocked me.

00:20:35.000 January 6th happened

00:20:36.060 and all of a sudden

00:20:37.460 the liberals narrative changed.

00:20:39.140 It wasn't that I was crazy

00:20:40.580 for suggesting it,

00:20:41.500 even though it wasn't

00:20:42.160 the White House

00:20:42.520 and it wasn't in November.

00:20:43.960 They said Tim Poole

00:20:45.180 had foreknowledge

00:20:46.220 of January 6th

00:20:47.300 and that statement

00:20:48.240 proved it.

00:20:49.760 And so what I have described

00:20:50.840 last year,

00:20:52.460 during the election,

00:20:53.440 before the election,

00:20:54.200 I said,

00:20:54.860 I was debating Sam Seder.

00:20:56.800 I said,

00:20:57.460 do you think Trump's

00:20:59.000 going to use the military

00:20:59.800 for immigration enforcement?

00:21:01.040 And he goes,

00:21:01.400 yes.

00:21:01.760 And I said,

00:21:02.340 and are you going to let him?

00:21:04.200 And his response

00:21:05.160 was wishy-washy,

00:21:06.100 kind of like,

00:21:06.540 well,

00:21:06.700 liberals might actually do it, 0.98

00:21:07.920 but maybe not.

00:21:08.860 And I said,

00:21:09.760 my fear is that

00:21:10.800 the president

00:21:11.300 is going to call

00:21:12.040 the National Guard

00:21:12.760 as it pertains

00:21:13.260 to immigration enforcement.

00:21:14.760 There will be a confrontation

00:21:15.820 between state leadership

00:21:16.920 as to who controls

00:21:17.680 the National Guard.

00:21:18.680 It'll go to the courts

00:21:19.640 and there will be a fight

00:21:20.740 over who's actually in charge

00:21:22.000 and this will create a rift.

00:21:23.500 Then,

00:21:24.220 escalation.

00:21:24.960 We are in this period now.

00:21:26.680 They have assassinated

00:21:27.520 Charlie Kirk.

00:21:28.460 The escalation keeps happening

00:21:29.740 and everything that I've stated

00:21:31.280 in some way,

00:21:32.280 it's been relatively vague,

00:21:33.560 but has been manifesting

00:21:35.240 and that terrifies me.

00:21:36.900 So,

00:21:37.600 when we say now,

00:21:38.480 it's not about

00:21:39.820 whether we will

00:21:40.440 or won't unify.

00:21:41.260 The reality is

00:21:41.720 you can't unify.

00:21:43.580 There is no reality

00:21:44.400 where I've already tried

00:21:45.840 talking to some of my friends

00:21:46.740 saying,

00:21:47.160 hey,

00:21:48.140 please don't say this

00:21:49.300 and justify this.

00:21:50.160 They're saying 0.99

00:21:50.580 they want to kill me 0.99

00:21:51.400 and they're like, 0.99

00:21:52.540 we don't care.

00:21:53.080 They're cut off.

00:21:53.900 They're not responding

00:21:54.940 to me anymore.

00:21:56.040 They're posting,

00:21:57.060 there's one individual,

00:21:59.180 some people in Hollywood

00:22:00.140 that I know,

00:22:01.020 actors and actresses

00:22:01.900 who have posted

00:22:02.720 Charlie deserved it,

00:22:03.640 here's why,

00:22:04.320 and then they've posted

00:22:04.940 fake quotes about it.

00:22:06.660 Right.

00:22:06.760 The mainstream liberals

00:22:08.040 are justifying the death.

00:22:10.080 Jimmy Kimmel did it.

00:22:11.720 The rhetoric is not toning down

00:22:13.300 and there are two distinct

00:22:15.720 moral worldviews right now

00:22:17.240 and you cannot convince a liberal

00:22:19.140 that what they have said

00:22:20.160 about Charlie is a lie.

00:22:21.240 They don't care.

00:22:22.660 No.

00:22:23.600 The future seems

00:22:24.560 kind of obvious.

00:22:26.160 One plus one equals two.

00:22:27.340 I'm not sure if you agree or not.

00:22:28.460 Um, I don't, I don't know.

00:22:32.700 I'll tell you this.

00:22:33.340 It's not what I'm advocating.

00:22:34.620 What I'm advocating,

00:22:35.320 hey, is the intermediate step,

00:22:37.700 which is they show up

00:22:39.920 and they do what they've done.

00:22:42.440 They behave the way that they have.

00:22:44.840 You could pay with your life.

00:22:46.640 I want every leftist

00:22:48.560 out there right now

00:22:49.820 to know that this is as close

00:22:51.200 as you ever get to me

00:22:52.420 or my friends as a trophy again. 0.99

00:22:54.280 We'll hurt you. 1.00

00:22:55.280 We'll kill you. 1.00

00:22:56.120 If you show up and you're violent 1.00

00:22:57.820 and we have to defend ourselves,

00:22:59.200 we haven't.

00:23:00.240 We will use lawful defense

00:23:01.800 where appropriate

00:23:02.680 and grace has been afforded before.

00:23:04.560 We just showed the clip today.

00:23:05.660 Remember them kicking down

00:23:06.820 the White House?

00:23:07.600 Let me give you,

00:23:08.300 not even a hypothetical,

00:23:09.620 kicking down the White House barricades.

00:23:11.280 Remember they burned down

00:23:11.880 the church across the street?

00:23:13.340 They set it on fire.

00:23:14.240 There were people, yeah,

00:23:15.200 there were people shouting 0.82

00:23:15.760 they were going to kill Donald Trump, right? 0.96

00:23:17.080 Right? 0.60

00:23:17.320 Like Beauty and the Beast.

00:23:18.220 And then they called him Bunker Don.

00:23:20.440 Would anyone be upset

00:23:21.480 if instead of a rubber bullet,

00:23:22.680 one of them caught some real lead?

00:23:23.880 I wouldn't.

00:23:24.360 Because you said you were going 0.99

00:23:25.720 to kill the president 0.96

00:23:26.460 and you were kicking down barricades. 0.97

00:23:28.060 Injuring police officers.

00:23:29.060 We use rubber bullets.

00:23:30.200 That should stop.

00:23:31.540 That should stop

00:23:32.260 if you're saying 0.99

00:23:32.680 you're going to kill the president. 0.95

00:23:34.260 If someone is going out saying, 1.00

00:23:35.580 hey, I am going to firebomb your car 0.88

00:23:37.320 and coming up with a Molotov cocktail, 0.99

00:23:38.900 guess what?

00:23:39.660 You deal with it appropriately.

00:23:41.140 So I am advocating right now

00:23:42.500 the same reason

00:23:43.520 that we advocate concealed carry.

00:23:45.320 The left needs to fear ramifications.

00:23:47.680 If they behave like us,

00:23:49.060 the left,

00:23:49.440 in other words,

00:23:49.840 if you come to,

00:23:50.700 whether it's a change of mind,

00:23:51.500 a stand-up show,

00:23:52.040 and you behave the way we behave,

00:23:53.860 guess what?

00:23:54.320 You'll be treated the way

00:23:55.060 we are all treated.

00:23:56.260 If you behave the way

00:23:57.800 that conservatives

00:23:58.480 never behave toward the left,

00:24:00.440 which is unlawful,

00:24:01.960 criminal,

00:24:02.860 violent,

00:24:03.540 let's start with this.

00:24:05.080 Let's make it sting.

00:24:06.220 Let's make it hurt. 0.94

00:24:07.300 Let's make it known

00:24:08.320 that they don't get off

00:24:09.480 scot-free anymore.

00:24:10.400 And here's the worst part,

00:24:11.780 Tim.

00:24:12.500 They're going to try

00:24:13.280 and equivocate.

00:24:14.000 It only comes from the left.

00:24:15.120 It only comes from the left.

00:24:16.640 I've challenged people,

00:24:17.860 show me one.

00:24:19.280 One Charlie Kirk on the left.

00:24:20.840 Not an elected official.

00:24:22.260 Show me one instance

00:24:23.120 where someone was assassinated

00:24:25.180 as an act of terrorism

00:24:26.560 in front of their family,

00:24:28.840 merely for opinions,

00:24:30.280 and then gleefully celebrated thereafter.

00:24:32.740 You won't find it.

00:24:33.860 They'll try and go to Minnesota.

00:24:35.020 That guy, by the way,

00:24:35.780 wasn't some Trump maniac.

00:24:37.520 He blamed Tim Walz. 0.97

00:24:38.440 He was out of his mind.

00:24:39.220 It's the closest thing

00:24:39.840 they can come to,

00:24:40.500 and something Mike Lee

00:24:41.280 said on Twitter. 0.99

00:24:42.180 I don't give a shit. 1.00

00:24:43.500 I don't give a shit. 0.99

00:24:44.780 It's not even close. 0.99

00:24:46.120 And now they come out

00:24:46.820 and say,

00:24:47.080 actually,

00:24:47.820 most of the violence

00:24:48.440 comes from the right wing.

00:24:49.400 I can prove to you

00:24:50.140 that's not true.

00:24:50.840 It's fake.

00:24:51.700 It's completely fake.

00:24:53.000 I pull up the ADL heat map

00:24:54.560 all the time

00:24:55.040 because it says

00:24:55.700 white supremacy,

00:24:56.780 anti-government,

00:24:57.580 and, quote,

00:24:58.280 other are all right wing.

00:25:00.260 They have three categories

00:25:01.980 of right wing.

00:25:03.000 That way,

00:25:03.620 they can make a fake list

00:25:04.880 that blames

00:25:05.820 run-of-the-mill conservatives

00:25:07.560 for what some psychotic

00:25:09.720 sovereign citizen does.

00:25:12.440 It's even worse.

00:25:13.420 It's even worse.

00:25:14.320 Can I give you

00:25:14.620 a very specific example?

00:25:15.520 Absolutely.

00:25:15.680 Because I know

00:25:15.960 you'll remember this.

00:25:16.720 I don't know

00:25:16.920 if you can pull up the clip.

00:25:17.580 But, okay,

00:25:19.180 and I'll get through

00:25:20.660 the methodology

00:25:21.240 and why it's all corrupted,

00:25:22.740 but this is all

00:25:23.260 you need to know, folks.

00:25:24.600 Remember that man in Portland?

00:25:26.340 His name was Aaron Danielson.

00:25:27.780 He was shot dead

00:25:28.740 point blank

00:25:29.380 by an Antifa member.

00:25:30.500 The guy's name

00:25:31.040 was Michael Reinhold,

00:25:33.320 I believe.

00:25:33.940 Yep.

00:25:34.120 And he said,

00:25:35.080 we got a Trump supporter. 0.96

00:25:36.700 Bang, bang, dead. 0.98

00:25:38.540 On camera. 1.00

00:25:39.560 Killed him. 0.97

00:25:40.300 That was not registered 0.98

00:25:41.660 as political violence

00:25:43.180 according to the recent

00:25:44.360 Economist numbers,

00:25:45.380 which, by the way,

00:25:46.020 also have no left-wing

00:25:47.020 political violence

00:25:47.660 the entire summer of 2020.

00:25:49.720 So that's enough.

00:25:50.780 If that is not counted, 0.99

00:25:52.720 then all of it is bullshit. 1.00

00:25:54.100 Throw it all out. 1.00

00:25:54.700 Now, there are other factors

00:25:56.220 that are important.

00:25:56.680 For example,

00:25:57.120 pretty much any white

00:25:58.220 on minority crime

00:25:59.020 is considered to be

00:25:59.940 violence labeled right.

00:26:01.720 Minority versus 0.98

00:26:02.460 another minority 0.91

00:26:03.340 or minority versus white

00:26:04.380 is not.

00:26:05.300 Any crime against

00:26:06.220 government officials

00:26:06.960 or halls of government

00:26:08.400 is considered

00:26:09.120 right-wing violence,

00:26:09.920 including in some instances

00:26:10.860 where it's members of Antifa

00:26:12.580 committing the crime.

00:26:14.080 But you don't need

00:26:14.740 to know anything else.

00:26:15.860 Trump supporter here,

00:26:17.380 bang, bang, 0.88

00:26:18.880 not political violence.

00:26:20.460 Those are the numbers

00:26:21.300 being circulated.

00:26:22.340 Yeah, I made a graph earlier

00:26:23.620 where I took the,

00:26:25.820 it's like 13 major cities

00:26:27.340 and then said,

00:26:29.060 break down all the

00:26:30.080 violent crime incidents

00:26:30.840 in 2023,

00:26:31.840 which is usually

00:26:32.700 the more accurate data

00:26:33.920 by political party control

00:26:36.800 and preference.

00:26:39.280 And guess what?

00:26:40.700 It's 95% Democrat.

00:26:43.120 So when we're actually

00:26:44.140 talking about the risks

00:26:45.280 of political violence,

00:26:47.040 it is not a MAGA Trump supporter

00:26:49.680 going up and shooting people.

00:26:51.540 The best thing they can do 1.00

00:26:53.240 is say like 0.99

00:26:53.940 a white supremacist prison gang

00:26:55.460 got into a fight

00:26:56.260 and that's right-wing extremism.

00:26:58.480 Yeah, but no one's talking,

00:26:59.460 we're asking the question is

00:27:01.100 Charlie Kirk,

00:27:03.380 does he have anything

00:27:04.000 to do with white supremacy?

00:27:04.840 No, in fact,

00:27:05.340 he advocated against it.

00:27:06.360 So they lie.

00:27:07.640 However,

00:27:08.540 the assassin of Charlie Kirk's

00:27:10.140 worldview was

00:27:10.900 mainstream Democrat.

00:27:13.420 Gender ideology. 0.99

00:27:14.880 That was the principal

00:27:15.620 motivating factor

00:27:16.340 according to law enforcement,

00:27:17.300 it appears.

00:27:18.420 And that is,

00:27:19.540 any,

00:27:19.980 you take any Democrat

00:27:21.200 who claims to be a moderate

00:27:22.680 and they will support

00:27:23.900 that ideology. 1.00

00:27:25.040 You take a white supremacist murder 1.00

00:27:26.760 and you will find 1.00

00:27:27.600 every single Republican

00:27:28.900 100% condemning it.

00:27:31.500 Yeah.

00:27:32.020 Well, not to mention

00:27:32.740 that people don't realize

00:27:33.700 this,

00:27:33.900 that neo-Nazis

00:27:34.560 are often still socialists.

00:27:36.260 That's one thing

00:27:36.660 people don't realize.

00:27:37.300 They think they can make

00:27:38.000 all the social programs work 0.98

00:27:39.240 if just not for the blacks 1.00

00:27:40.260 and browns and Jews. 0.98

00:27:41.420 Like, people don't realize

00:27:42.560 they actually supported

00:27:43.540 the socialist part

00:27:45.380 of the Nazi name as well.

00:27:47.300 So anything that is

00:27:48.500 white supremacy,

00:27:49.480 they just label as right-wing.

00:27:50.600 Let me give you some examples

00:27:51.340 of other ones

00:27:51.720 that are not included,

00:27:52.660 by the way.

00:27:53.000 It depends on whether

00:27:53.540 you're using Cato

00:27:54.120 or you're using The Economist.

00:27:56.200 I'll sort of dismiss

00:27:56.980 the NIJ one

00:27:57.800 because it was removed.

00:27:58.760 The left is saying

00:27:59.340 it's removed

00:27:59.700 because it proved their point.

00:28:00.760 But the truth is

00:28:01.220 it was removed

00:28:01.640 because it was commissioned

00:28:02.320 under a Biden administration

00:28:04.260 and clearly was riddled

00:28:05.680 with inaccurate forms

00:28:06.860 of methodology.

00:28:08.500 Not,

00:28:08.840 not considered

00:28:10.140 either terrorism

00:28:11.180 or political violence

00:28:11.980 depending on which one

00:28:12.560 we're using.

00:28:13.260 Not a single one

00:28:14.120 of what the crimes

00:28:15.060 committed in George Floyd's

00:28:16.300 name,

00:28:17.020 you know,

00:28:17.220 where you had over 20 killed,

00:28:18.620 over 2 billion in damages

00:28:20.180 within the first few months.

00:28:21.000 Daryl Brooks,

00:28:21.900 Waukesha,

00:28:22.500 killed 6,

00:28:23.080 injured 70,

00:28:23.620 not included.

00:28:24.700 Again,

00:28:24.980 that Portland shooting,

00:28:26.160 none of these aren't,

00:28:26.940 you have to throw

00:28:28.040 all of it out.

00:28:29.460 It is coming

00:28:30.120 from the left

00:28:30.880 and here's how you know

00:28:32.300 you can believe 0.97

00:28:33.140 your lying eyes and ears. 0.93

00:28:34.000 That's the empirical. 0.98

00:28:34.940 The anecdotal is

00:28:35.600 they're showing up

00:28:37.160 and spitting

00:28:38.060 at the vigils

00:28:39.040 and pantomiming

00:28:40.480 a man dying

00:28:41.360 in front of his children

00:28:42.180 with,

00:28:43.200 it's not just

00:28:43.940 that professors

00:28:44.640 are showing students

00:28:46.660 a snuff film

00:28:47.240 to create a generation 0.98

00:28:48.220 of psychopaths, 0.99

00:28:48.940 by the way. 0.96

00:28:49.300 That's how you

00:28:49.660 desensitize them,

00:28:50.380 right?

00:28:50.680 Yep.

00:28:51.720 It's that the professors

00:28:52.920 have lived

00:28:53.640 in an echo chamber

00:28:55.600 for so long

00:28:57.020 they didn't even

00:28:57.940 see it coming.

00:28:59.080 They didn't even

00:28:59.840 understand that

00:29:00.740 people might go,

00:29:01.340 oh, wait,

00:29:01.780 my teacher said

00:29:02.580 good aim

00:29:03.280 to a man

00:29:03.700 who assassinated

00:29:04.460 a father

00:29:04.840 in front of his children.

00:29:05.920 They didn't,

00:29:06.340 it didn't even

00:29:06.740 cross their mind.

00:29:08.240 That's how consequence-free

00:29:09.780 their lives have been.

00:29:11.260 And now the left

00:29:11.840 tries to do

00:29:12.480 the jujitsu,

00:29:13.400 gaslighting,

00:29:13.940 cancel culture.

00:29:15.420 No,

00:29:16.000 Jimmy Kimmel

00:29:16.440 deserved to be fired.

00:29:17.540 It is not an example

00:29:18.320 of cancel culture 0.99

00:29:19.180 and I don't give a shit. 1.00

00:29:21.200 I don't care anymore. 0.99

00:29:22.700 I want to fight. 0.91

00:29:23.740 I hate, 0.99

00:29:24.860 I hate the evil 0.99

00:29:26.160 that inspires these people. 0.94

00:29:27.800 I don't like them.

00:29:28.760 I have plenty of friends.

00:29:29.640 I could use a few enemies.

00:29:31.060 I want to make examples

00:29:33.080 of anyone out there

00:29:34.840 who wants to make

00:29:35.800 an example of us.

00:29:36.680 And here's the thing.

00:29:37.460 Hey,

00:29:38.240 equal footing.

00:29:39.100 I've said this to the left.

00:29:40.660 You treat our violent guys

00:29:42.300 who show up to your

00:29:43.220 change my mind

00:29:44.420 and prove me wrong

00:29:45.020 you treat our guys

00:29:46.240 the same way we treat yours.

00:29:48.300 Bet you,

00:29:48.620 you know,

00:29:48.840 that's not an equitable trade,

00:29:50.000 right?

00:29:50.640 They know exactly why.

00:29:51.660 They know exactly why.

00:29:52.360 What this is,

00:29:53.060 is I guess it's kind of scary

00:29:54.860 to say,

00:29:55.240 but the conversation is over.

00:29:56.920 For the past 10 years,

00:29:58.560 we have seen,

00:29:59.120 or longer,

00:29:59.580 we've seen the far left.

00:30:00.840 I mean,

00:30:01.080 I could say since

00:30:01.760 going back to Occupy,

00:30:03.340 the far left has gone out

00:30:04.600 and been violent

00:30:05.520 and even they use,

00:30:07.400 I would say for a while,

00:30:09.000 low,

00:30:09.420 I call it blunt terrorism.

00:30:11.320 And that is,

00:30:12.180 when an Antifa guy

00:30:12.980 shows up to a peaceful rally

00:30:14.260 and punches someone 0.61

00:30:15.040 in the face,

00:30:15.860 it's not national news,

00:30:17.040 no one cares.

00:30:18.100 But it is terror

00:30:19.060 and it does make people

00:30:20.120 think twice about doing

00:30:21.060 these events.

00:30:22.060 They've now crossed the line

00:30:23.280 into a direct assassination

00:30:25.000 of a high-profile

00:30:26.080 political figure

00:30:26.780 and celebrated it.

00:30:28.480 I don't know

00:30:29.420 what argument

00:30:30.080 there is to be had

00:30:31.220 when they're lying

00:30:32.320 about Charlie Kirk,

00:30:33.540 justifying his murder,

00:30:35.120 and defending those

00:30:36.340 who would call for mine,

00:30:37.420 and they have the nerve

00:30:38.440 to say,

00:30:39.040 my God,

00:30:40.200 the fascism,

00:30:41.120 oh no,

00:30:41.760 Jimmy Kimmel got fired,

00:30:43.260 while they previously

00:30:44.360 celebrated Roseanne

00:30:45.540 and Tucker Carlson,

00:30:46.840 and Charlie Kirk

00:30:48.240 was just killed.

00:30:49.000 They're more upset

00:30:50.020 that their comedian

00:30:51.540 with some of the worst ratings

00:30:53.800 in all of media,

00:30:54.700 Jimmy Kimmel was getting

00:30:55.400 200,000 in the key demo,

00:30:57.540 and they're saying,

00:30:58.380 this is the worst thing

00:30:59.460 that's ever happened to us,

00:31:00.500 while Charlie Kirk,

00:31:02.220 his family is still mourning

00:31:04.160 his assassination.

00:31:04.780 I don't even know

00:31:06.440 how to have a conversation

00:31:07.680 with someone like that

00:31:08.600 to explain to them,

00:31:10.340 we may disagree,

00:31:11.540 but let's live together.

00:31:13.020 They've said no,

00:31:14.380 and I don't know

00:31:15.420 where this goes

00:31:16.080 other than escalation,

00:31:17.620 which worries me.

00:31:18.920 It doesn't worry me

00:31:21.060 because we're in it.

00:31:22.760 That's true.

00:31:23.160 We're in it.

00:31:23.400 That's true.

00:31:23.760 And I'd rather know

00:31:24.520 that we're in a fight,

00:31:25.380 and that's why I'm telling people,

00:31:26.760 that's why I'm sounding the alarm,

00:31:27.920 because I know,

00:31:28.860 and you know,

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00:32:00.320 And Charlie knew,

00:32:01.340 and a lot of the public doesn't.

00:32:02.500 They think,

00:32:03.000 gee golly,

00:32:03.620 it's trolling.

00:32:04.060 And they didn't just answer

00:32:04.980 softly,

00:32:05.820 the left,

00:32:06.240 meaning like,

00:32:06.680 yeah,

00:32:06.960 they kind of tacitly.

00:32:08.300 No,

00:32:08.740 they answered forcefully.

00:32:09.620 Look,

00:32:09.860 let me ask you this.

00:32:10.740 YouGov,

00:32:11.420 bastion of conservatism?

00:32:12.720 Of course not, right?

00:32:13.400 I want you to close your eyes

00:32:14.620 for a second

00:32:15.100 and picture a fascist.

00:32:16.500 Picture a fascist party, 0.81

00:32:18.460 a totalitarian,

00:32:19.260 you know,

00:32:19.540 Nazis,

00:32:20.120 or it could be

00:32:20.720 under Stalin,

00:32:21.640 whoever,

00:32:22.020 Pinochet.

00:32:22.520 Let me ask you,

00:32:23.180 are you picturing

00:32:23.840 77% of them

00:32:25.220 saying that political violence

00:32:26.360 is never acceptable?

00:32:27.960 Because only Republicans

00:32:29.080 answered that

00:32:29.640 in this country

00:32:30.200 to YouGov

00:32:30.820 versus 38%

00:32:32.280 of Democrats.

00:32:32.740 That means

00:32:33.500 significantly more

00:32:35.080 than half of Democrats

00:32:36.160 answered either

00:32:37.360 completely acceptable

00:32:38.860 to somewhat acceptable

00:32:40.480 or I don't know.

00:32:41.700 Guess what?

00:32:42.380 I don't want to be friends

00:32:43.280 with,

00:32:43.680 I don't know, 1.00

00:32:44.460 you're a piece of shit, 1.00

00:32:45.640 I'm going to treat you 1.00

00:32:46.320 like a piece of shit, 1.00

00:32:47.340 you're not my friend, 1.00

00:32:48.500 and you killed one of them. 0.99

00:32:50.360 Okay? 1.00

00:32:50.900 That's where we are. 1.00

00:32:51.960 I'm tired of this bullshit. 1.00

00:32:54.680 We have been in a fight 1.00

00:32:56.380 and this,

00:32:57.160 gee golly,

00:32:57.960 can't we all get along?

00:32:59.640 No.

00:33:00.020 No, we cannot. 1.00

00:33:00.900 These people want you dead 0.99

00:33:02.060 and if they can't, 1.00

00:33:03.120 they can't take your life,

00:33:04.360 they'll take your name.

00:33:05.400 They tried to take

00:33:06.000 the latter for me.

00:33:06.780 I don't care anymore.

00:33:08.100 I just don't care.

00:33:09.920 It just doesn't matter.

00:33:11.720 We're not going to play 0.99

00:33:12.640 the both sides bullshit. 0.98

00:33:14.760 And I'll tell you this, 1.00

00:33:15.700 yeah,

00:33:15.940 sorry,

00:33:16.340 and I'm not yelling at you

00:33:17.440 just to be clear. 0.99

00:33:18.820 It's just fuckery 0.97

00:33:21.480 if I can say that 0.99

00:33:22.380 on your show.

00:33:23.000 I just like,

00:33:23.600 the fact that we're

00:33:24.620 even having this,

00:33:25.160 no, no, no,

00:33:25.700 you guys answered,

00:33:26.740 the left,

00:33:27.100 you guys answered,

00:33:27.580 political violence

00:33:28.320 is somewhat acceptable.

00:33:29.080 Okay, great.

00:33:29.800 I am saying that

00:33:30.580 lawful violence

00:33:31.480 in response

00:33:32.360 to what you've stated

00:33:33.500 is completely acceptable.

00:33:35.520 That makes me an extremist.

00:33:36.920 Great.

00:33:37.380 They have argued

00:33:38.320 they have the right

00:33:39.460 to self-defense

00:33:40.140 because your words

00:33:40.960 are violence

00:33:41.620 and I think it's fair

00:33:43.140 to say we have a right

00:33:44.080 to defend ourselves

00:33:44.940 when you're assassinating

00:33:46.060 our friends

00:33:46.860 and political leaders

00:33:48.300 or every degree

00:33:50.360 of violence

00:33:50.740 they've engaged in

00:33:51.580 from showing up

00:33:52.860 and beating people

00:33:53.780 to throwing firebombs

00:33:55.240 to giving out

00:33:55.680 Molotov cocktails.

00:33:56.480 We can't live this way

00:33:58.020 and I see all these posts

00:33:59.800 from people on the left

00:34:00.880 being like,

00:34:01.420 don't you care

00:34:01.940 about free speech?

00:34:03.020 And I'm like,

00:34:03.440 bro,

00:34:04.000 you lost the goodwill

00:34:06.180 from us

00:34:06.700 when you took ours

00:34:08.520 several years ago.

00:34:10.040 Your words mean nothing.

00:34:11.980 You've celebrated murder.

00:34:13.700 You've celebrated violence.

00:34:15.600 You've mocked us

00:34:16.560 as we were being attacked.

00:34:17.840 I have no interest

00:34:19.240 in talking to you

00:34:19.940 or even trying

00:34:20.720 to argue at this point.

00:34:21.600 I am just going 0.91

00:34:22.640 to mock you 0.79

00:34:23.220 for the world

00:34:23.960 you created

00:34:24.500 and try to keep myself,

00:34:26.160 my friends,

00:34:26.600 and my family safe.

00:34:27.900 And I'm going to say

00:34:28.480 this last thing.

00:34:29.600 I don't get threats

00:34:30.360 from Gripers.

00:34:31.340 I don't get threats

00:34:32.120 from a far-right

00:34:33.000 or pro-Israel

00:34:33.820 or anti-Israel.

00:34:35.020 The Jews,

00:34:35.680 the Germans,

00:34:36.420 none of them

00:34:36.860 are threatening me.

00:34:37.700 It is leftists. 0.61

00:34:39.680 Every death threat,

00:34:41.060 every close call,

00:34:42.680 every strange incident

00:34:43.820 that we have to deal with,

00:34:45.700 a man in a dress 0.94

00:34:46.500 is a great example.

00:34:47.820 It is always someone

00:34:48.780 on the left

00:34:49.180 doing it to us.

00:34:49.920 So if you are going

00:34:50.980 to justify Charlie's death

00:34:52.140 or dance on his grave,

00:34:53.180 I am never,

00:34:54.320 never going to defend

00:34:55.300 anything you have

00:34:56.360 to complain about.

00:34:57.380 But I do want to ask you...

00:34:58.000 Not only that,

00:34:58.520 can I say one thing?

00:34:59.600 Yeah.

00:34:59.820 One thing about Jimmy Kimmel.

00:35:01.660 I really,

00:35:02.660 you know,

00:35:02.960 the comic in me

00:35:03.760 appreciates the art

00:35:04.780 of distillation

00:35:05.400 because the left

00:35:06.420 is trying to go,

00:35:06.920 see,

00:35:07.200 you're the party

00:35:07.660 of cancel culture.

00:35:08.640 First off, 1.00

00:35:09.420 shut the fuck up. 1.00

00:35:10.600 Second, 0.99

00:35:11.280 let me make this

00:35:12.020 really clear, okay?

00:35:12.700 We've always had

00:35:13.200 the bounds of society

00:35:14.600 where we deemed

00:35:15.660 something unacceptable

00:35:16.420 and you were not

00:35:16.980 to live amongst us

00:35:17.800 because it was

00:35:18.300 such a violation

00:35:19.440 of decorum.

00:35:20.620 Cancel culture 0.98

00:35:21.220 is a shifting

00:35:22.580 of the Overton window.

00:35:23.720 It's like someone

00:35:24.140 walking backwards

00:35:24.880 laying down landmines.

00:35:25.900 Let me put this

00:35:26.660 in two phrases.

00:35:28.200 1963,

00:35:28.800 JFK is killed.

00:35:29.920 Do you think

00:35:30.400 if that day

00:35:31.080 a professor

00:35:31.860 showed the film

00:35:32.580 to his students

00:35:33.080 and said,

00:35:33.740 yeah,

00:35:34.220 I'm glad that 0.96

00:35:35.100 the bits of his brain 1.00

00:35:36.080 landed on his bitch's jacket, 1.00

00:35:37.340 do you think 1.00

00:35:37.580 he would be fired?

00:35:38.300 Of course.

00:35:39.160 Now let me ask you,

00:35:39.880 63,

00:35:40.560 same day,

00:35:41.220 if he said

00:35:41.760 to his classroom,

00:35:42.800 men are biologically

00:35:43.780 different from women,

00:35:44.960 would he be fired?

00:35:45.620 No.

00:35:46.060 There you go.

00:35:46.500 You understand cancel culture.

00:35:47.540 Let's move on.

00:35:48.080 We're adults.

00:35:48.440 It is getting

00:35:50.160 really,

00:35:50.580 really strange.

00:35:51.420 So I'm just curious.

00:35:53.320 I have to,

00:35:54.020 what I had stated

00:35:55.460 to Variety

00:35:55.980 when they interviewed

00:35:56.420 me on this one is,

00:35:57.640 it's not so much

00:35:59.000 that it's an increase

00:36:00.460 in the threats.

00:36:01.000 It is,

00:36:01.360 it's just making

00:36:03.020 more real

00:36:03.880 what we already knew.

00:36:05.280 I was talking

00:36:05.760 to a veteran

00:36:06.780 who had him

00:36:07.340 on the show

00:36:07.600 on IRL

00:36:08.000 and he said,

00:36:10.040 you know,

00:36:10.280 when we were in combat

00:36:11.120 in, say,

00:36:11.480 Afghanistan,

00:36:12.540 you feel the threat

00:36:13.640 when you go out there

00:36:14.760 but after a couple

00:36:15.420 of weeks,

00:36:16.340 you start to become

00:36:17.000 complacent.

00:36:18.140 Maybe you don't look

00:36:18.660 around the corners

00:36:19.200 anymore and that's

00:36:20.420 when the ID goes off

00:36:21.440 or you get shot at

00:36:22.500 and I feel like

00:36:23.740 that's what this

00:36:24.300 is really exposed.

00:36:25.280 So my last question

00:36:26.260 is I'm curious,

00:36:27.500 how has it been

00:36:28.200 for you guys?

00:36:28.860 Have you had any

00:36:29.520 alerts,

00:36:30.480 close calls,

00:36:31.020 an increase in,

00:36:32.020 let's just call it

00:36:33.520 weird instances

00:36:34.340 or threats?

00:36:36.260 Yes.

00:36:36.760 I thought we were

00:36:37.640 going for an hour,

00:36:38.240 right?

00:36:38.540 Or no?

00:36:39.400 We could if you want.

00:36:40.560 Okay, yeah,

00:36:40.980 I'm fine doing it.

00:36:41.640 I just said,

00:36:41.940 I didn't want you to think

00:36:42.540 because I know

00:36:43.060 initially you said

00:36:43.520 30 to an hour,

00:36:44.200 I told him to say

00:36:44.780 I'm good for now

00:36:45.260 but whatever you want,

00:36:45.860 obviously you can boot me.

00:36:47.180 Yeah, you know,

00:36:48.040 here's the thing too.

00:36:49.020 I went through,

00:36:49.740 you know,

00:36:50.920 some very public

00:36:51.940 legal battles

00:36:52.620 and I had,

00:36:53.780 I'll use a term,

00:36:54.560 spineless conservatives

00:36:55.340 dox the house

00:36:56.260 where I and my children

00:36:57.080 sleep to Antifa.

00:36:57.860 I think you kind of

00:36:59.000 covered some of this

00:36:59.600 without getting into detail.

00:37:00.780 So that's been ongoing

00:37:02.460 and it's a,

00:37:03.260 your life is forever changed,

00:37:05.180 right?

00:37:05.400 Everything you do

00:37:06.500 always has to be done

00:37:07.860 very prudently

00:37:08.620 without exception.

00:37:10.360 You have to be perfect

00:37:11.320 because what the left sees,

00:37:12.960 what the world sees,

00:37:13.640 I should say,

00:37:14.100 is what gets through.

00:37:15.620 Guarantee you

00:37:16.360 for what you saw happen,

00:37:18.460 the absolute atrocity,

00:37:21.000 tragedy,

00:37:21.340 the cold-blooded assassination

00:37:22.620 as an act of terrorism

00:37:23.740 against Charlie Kirk

00:37:24.440 was one of dozens

00:37:26.100 that got through.

00:37:26.880 And there's a difference

00:37:28.140 between drama,

00:37:29.260 oh,

00:37:29.560 someone said they want 0.95

00:37:30.100 to kill me, 0.99

00:37:30.520 okay, 1.00

00:37:30.820 get in line.

00:37:31.540 In real ones,

00:37:33.100 you know,

00:37:33.380 I would say that

00:37:33.860 they're still pretty steady.

00:37:35.520 But again,

00:37:36.840 I,

00:37:37.600 I,

00:37:38.200 you know,

00:37:39.000 I'll tell you,

00:37:39.320 this is a personal thing.

00:37:40.580 My,

00:37:40.900 my,

00:37:41.700 my lady,

00:37:42.480 my girlfriend

00:37:42.860 for quite a while now,

00:37:44.040 she's,

00:37:44.520 she's a fiery Latina. 1.00

00:37:47.100 She,

00:37:47.520 when she met me,

00:37:48.840 I kind of have a reputation

00:37:50.080 of being a hermit,

00:37:51.000 a little bit of recluse.

00:37:51.780 I'm a homebody,

00:37:52.540 but I was getting a lot

00:37:53.580 of threats at one point.

00:37:54.320 When she met me,

00:37:55.500 I was largely kind of

00:37:57.140 staying at home

00:37:57.740 and being careful.

00:37:58.320 So I would just tell her

00:37:59.200 I had some close calls.

00:38:00.460 On our show,

00:38:01.500 she saw a highlight reel

00:38:02.740 with everything from me

00:38:03.560 getting punched in the face,

00:38:04.840 horse collared,

00:38:06.160 people attempting to firebomb,

00:38:08.160 throwing,

00:38:08.440 all this stuff.

00:38:09.780 And she has been,

00:38:11.420 now to the uninitiated,

00:38:12.720 what someone would view

00:38:13.500 as paranoid.

00:38:14.420 Or she said,

00:38:15.100 I didn't know all,

00:38:16.220 I didn't know how,

00:38:17.200 I only see the positive interactions.

00:38:18.860 You know,

00:38:19.000 it goes somewhere.

00:38:19.860 And I said,

00:38:20.220 yeah,

00:38:20.580 so maybe now you understand

00:38:21.420 why sometimes I'm a little tense.

00:38:23.120 And she,

00:38:23.860 I hate this,

00:38:24.460 but she's getting a taste of it

00:38:25.400 because I wanted to protect her from it.

00:38:26.960 And you can't.

00:38:28.080 That's the real issue too.

00:38:29.280 That's really tough as a man.

00:38:30.400 It's like,

00:38:30.600 you can't protect those

00:38:31.940 around you from these animals.

00:38:33.900 So the closest thing

00:38:34.720 I can think of

00:38:35.580 is a tone shift.

00:38:37.740 I want the left to be scared.

00:38:40.000 I want it to hurt

00:38:41.940 when they try and hurt ours.

00:38:43.880 I'm not even advocating

00:38:44.780 political violence.

00:38:45.660 I'm advocating

00:38:46.460 for the first time

00:38:47.360 conservatives

00:38:47.940 to exercise their right

00:38:49.700 to lawful violence.

00:38:51.000 And we need to see this

00:38:52.400 across the board

00:38:53.500 because the systems,

00:38:54.480 I mean.

00:38:55.160 You're advocating self-defense.

00:38:57.480 Yeah,

00:38:57.900 but we haven't been doing it.

00:38:58.940 I know.

00:38:59.980 I watch these videos

00:39:00.880 where conservatives

00:39:01.760 get punched in that

00:39:02.740 when Andy Ngo

00:39:03.620 was being mercilessly beaten,

00:39:04.700 he didn't fight back.

00:39:06.300 He just kept going

00:39:07.060 as they beat him

00:39:07.620 and beat him.

00:39:08.560 Someone like,

00:39:09.700 the beatings won't stop

00:39:10.840 until you defend yourself.

00:39:12.340 And that is why

00:39:12.880 we are legally allowed

00:39:13.780 to defend ourselves

00:39:14.580 to stop them

00:39:15.360 from injuring us,

00:39:16.780 from hurting us.

00:39:17.920 And I think the sad reality

00:39:20.120 is conservatives

00:39:21.560 just kept turning

00:39:22.120 the other cheek.

00:39:23.400 Yeah.

00:39:23.600 They didn't want

00:39:24.240 the escalation.

00:39:25.800 And you know

00:39:26.660 what's fascinating too

00:39:27.480 is the really great,

00:39:28.780 the horrifying example

00:39:29.740 is the Proud Boys

00:39:31.040 in New York.

00:39:32.180 When the far left

00:39:33.200 was attacking patrons

00:39:34.280 of this speaking event

00:39:35.460 with Gavin McInnes,

00:39:37.160 Proud Boys came out.

00:39:38.740 Antifa was taunting

00:39:39.580 and throwing things.

00:39:40.720 The Proud Boys

00:39:41.420 engaged them.

00:39:43.160 A fight broke out.

00:39:44.000 I'd call that

00:39:44.620 mutual combat,

00:39:45.720 although to be fair,

00:39:46.780 Antifa went to their event

00:39:48.000 and instigated it,

00:39:48.860 but fine,

00:39:49.280 let's call it mutual.

00:39:50.540 When the police showed up,

00:39:52.360 the Proud Boys

00:39:53.000 with smiles on their faces

00:39:54.280 thanked the police

00:39:55.620 and gave all their information over

00:39:56.980 and Antifa said,

00:39:57.900 F the police and ran.

00:39:59.420 And then,

00:40:00.060 with the information

00:40:00.680 on the Proud Boys,

00:40:01.760 the city government said,

00:40:03.300 lock them up

00:40:04.000 and they got four years

00:40:05.040 in prison

00:40:05.500 despite being the ones

00:40:06.900 aggressed upon.

00:40:08.720 Yeah.

00:40:08.980 This is,

00:40:09.500 conservatives have largely

00:40:10.660 been avoiding this

00:40:11.700 because we know

00:40:13.660 that if you try

00:40:15.380 to defend yourself,

00:40:16.040 the law was coming for you.

00:40:17.360 They would lock you up

00:40:18.260 and let Antifa go. 0.95

00:40:19.620 Now,

00:40:20.040 Trump is saying

00:40:20.920 Antifa's a terror organization

00:40:22.240 and we're not playing

00:40:23.120 that game anymore

00:40:23.800 and they're crying about it.

00:40:25.480 Absolutely.

00:40:26.100 Let me send this message

00:40:26.940 to everyone out there.

00:40:28.080 Look,

00:40:28.540 Kyle Rittenhouse

00:40:29.260 shouldn't have been treated

00:40:30.340 with anything other than

00:40:31.220 good shooting

00:40:31.940 and a pat in the back

00:40:32.740 from the judge.

00:40:33.200 The guy had already

00:40:34.320 shot at him

00:40:34.840 and was aiming a gut at him 0.98

00:40:36.200 and he shot his bicep

00:40:37.680 in a John Wick move.

00:40:39.320 Okay?

00:40:39.700 This is what,

00:40:40.360 you're talking about

00:40:40.860 the Proud Boys

00:40:41.880 right there.

00:40:42.400 Exactly.

00:40:43.120 These people,

00:40:44.320 Daniel Penny,

00:40:45.220 they shouldn't be alone

00:40:46.360 and like you said,

00:40:47.200 the law will be against you

00:40:48.120 but hey,

00:40:48.520 to everyone listening

00:40:49.380 right now,

00:40:49.920 again,

00:40:50.540 lawfully defending yourself,

00:40:52.000 understand this,

00:40:53.300 they can't catch you all,

00:40:55.140 they can't arrest you all,

00:40:56.840 they can't prosecute you all

00:40:58.380 because people

00:40:59.300 have woken up right now.

00:41:00.460 They know the enemy

00:41:01.400 that we are facing,

00:41:02.320 it is within

00:41:02.940 and if they see

00:41:04.480 the selective prosecution,

00:41:06.580 people are going

00:41:07.340 to know.

00:41:08.060 That's what the left

00:41:08.660 has used,

00:41:09.040 right?

00:41:09.180 They falsely claim victim.

00:41:11.540 Conservatives have actually

00:41:12.580 been the victim

00:41:13.520 of institutionalized

00:41:15.340 discrimination.

00:41:16.260 Let me give you an example

00:41:17.060 and I can't take credit

00:41:18.300 for this,

00:41:18.640 the investigative unit here,

00:41:20.120 they're 7-0.

00:41:20.840 The best that's ever done it,

00:41:21.780 the most consequential

00:41:22.500 that's ever done it,

00:41:23.080 I can't even tell you

00:41:23.860 their names

00:41:24.380 because I'm not allowed to.

00:41:26.040 With the Covenant school shooting,

00:41:27.900 right,

00:41:28.120 what happened is

00:41:28.640 we got that manifest

00:41:29.520 and now it's included

00:41:30.320 in the Cato stats.

00:41:31.220 It would not have been.

00:41:32.880 Think about that

00:41:33.640 for a second.

00:41:34.360 We got it,

00:41:35.080 they accused us of lying.

00:41:36.380 They said this isn't legitimate.

00:41:37.500 Then they said it's legitimate

00:41:38.300 but it'll hurt the family

00:41:39.420 and they still maintain

00:41:40.840 there was no ideological motivation.

00:41:43.220 They still protested to Cato.

00:41:45.000 What about the ones

00:41:46.260 that we don't catch?

00:41:48.020 Think about that.

00:41:49.640 The numbers are already,

00:41:50.400 what about the ones

00:41:51.100 that we don't catch?

00:41:52.020 Why is Cato lying?

00:41:53.960 What's that?

00:41:54.660 Why is Cato lying?

00:41:56.280 Well, Cato said

00:41:56.920 they included it.

00:41:57.540 They said we included it

00:41:58.300 but it's Audrey Hill covenant

00:41:59.460 is borderline

00:42:00.440 because I believe they said

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00:42:39.880 Police claim that it's not.

00:42:41.180 So we opted to include it

00:42:42.700 but just know it.

00:42:43.620 Well, what about that

00:42:44.400 as borderline?

00:42:45.140 And what about a man

00:42:46.120 being shot point blank

00:42:47.200 because he...

00:42:48.220 How do I know he was murdered?

00:42:49.400 Because we saw him murdered.

00:42:50.860 How do I know he was murdered

00:42:51.820 because he was a Trump supporter?

00:42:53.060 Because the guy who murdered him

00:42:54.260 said it's because

00:42:54.800 he's a Trump supporter

00:42:55.560 and it's not political violence.

00:42:57.560 It's like a nightmare

00:42:58.420 where you're trying to scream

00:42:59.940 and no one can hear you.

00:43:01.800 So stop screaming

00:43:03.000 and start protecting yourself.

00:43:04.720 I think we should include all...

00:43:07.360 You know, in Chicago

00:43:08.040 you've got a lot of violent crime 0.99

00:43:10.100 among the young black men. 0.99

00:43:12.020 They're the majority of the murders. 0.99

00:43:13.300 That's all left

00:43:14.060 as far as I'm concerned.

00:43:14.960 So I'm going to...

00:43:15.860 I'm going to play

00:43:16.820 the same game they do.

00:43:17.780 I'm going to make an institution

00:43:18.980 which is a meaningless term.

00:43:20.560 I'm going to create a non-profit.

00:43:21.660 I'm going to call it

00:43:22.360 an institution.

00:43:23.620 And then I'm going to get

00:43:24.620 some doctors 1.00

00:43:25.280 who have like the stupidest 1.00

00:43:26.720 doctorate degree 1.00

00:43:27.300 so I can have doctor whoever. 0.96

00:43:29.040 Then we're going to take 0.93

00:43:30.020 every gang shooting

00:43:31.320 and say because liberals

00:43:33.140 released them from prison,

00:43:35.040 this is leftist violence

00:43:36.180 because it's in line

00:43:37.020 with their worldview.

00:43:38.020 And then take a look

00:43:39.080 at what those charts

00:43:39.700 are going to show.

00:43:41.060 There's going to be

00:43:41.660 such a small sliver

00:43:42.780 of right wing

00:43:43.280 we may as well

00:43:43.840 not even include it.

00:43:44.480 In fact, we won't.

00:43:45.100 We'll say the right was so low

00:43:46.740 compared to leftist violence

00:43:47.860 that it was a rounding error

00:43:49.200 we decided not to include.

00:43:50.960 Yeah.

00:43:51.600 You know what?

00:43:51.940 I think that's completely fair.

00:43:52.860 I can tell you exactly why.

00:43:53.820 Let me give you...

00:43:54.340 And I have this written down here.

00:43:55.800 Billy Davis,

00:43:56.700 according to these charts

00:43:57.560 that are circling right now,

00:43:58.760 this is a white woman 0.99

00:43:59.740 who stabbed an Asian woman 0.95

00:44:00.560 on a bus in 2024,

00:44:01.840 Bloomington, Indiana.

00:44:02.840 Okay?

00:44:03.540 It was listed on the database.

00:44:05.880 The TPP database

00:44:06.840 is what they use.

00:44:07.740 It was listed

00:44:08.480 as right identity focus

00:44:09.700 because she was white. 0.99

00:44:10.400 Let's compare that

00:44:10.900 to Brandon Elliott,

00:44:11.720 a black man

00:44:12.380 brutally assaulted 1.00

00:44:13.820 an Asian woman

00:44:14.380 in New York City,

00:44:16.300 2021, I believe,

00:44:17.500 was convicted

00:44:18.160 of a hate crime.

00:44:19.640 And it wasn't listed

00:44:20.960 on the TPP database at all.

00:44:22.740 Now, here's the other thing.

00:44:23.460 Because of our justice bureaus,

00:44:25.580 because they've stopped recording

00:44:26.820 interracial crime statistics,

00:44:28.380 right?

00:44:28.500 They changed that,

00:44:29.020 I believe,

00:44:29.220 it was in 2016

00:44:30.440 where it's kind of murky.

00:44:32.080 You have to use isolated studies.

00:44:33.620 Keep in mind

00:44:34.200 that data shows

00:44:35.280 85% of all assault crimes

00:44:38.260 in the San Francisco Bay Area 0.91

00:44:40.160 were black on Asian. 0.93

00:44:41.580 85% of all assault... 0.51

00:44:43.320 Now, it's a small sample size

00:44:44.320 because we can't get it

00:44:45.440 from the DOJ.

00:44:45.780 Just call it leftist.

00:44:46.240 We can't get it from the FBI.

00:44:47.340 Don't...

00:44:47.520 Just call it leftist.

00:44:49.000 Yeah.

00:44:49.360 Well, I mean,

00:44:50.280 because look,

00:44:50.980 the left talks about

00:44:52.480 white supremacy

00:44:53.080 and white privilege. 0.59

00:44:55.360 And so,

00:44:56.080 the data shows

00:44:57.780 they have a...

00:44:58.520 White liberals

00:44:59.220 have an out-group preference.

00:45:00.840 So,

00:45:01.700 if then

00:45:02.380 the violence

00:45:03.220 is targeting 0.73

00:45:03.820 non-black people, 0.71

00:45:05.720 then I think 0.81

00:45:06.540 our institution

00:45:07.160 can just refer to that

00:45:07.840 as leftist

00:45:08.280 and we'll make those charts,

00:45:09.500 right?

00:45:10.140 Now, the reality is...

00:45:11.560 Good enough for me.

00:45:12.760 But we've been honest

00:45:13.680 the whole time

00:45:14.260 and this doesn't work

00:45:15.280 on the right.

00:45:15.820 You can't make fake stats

00:45:18.720 to trick the right.

00:45:19.640 They'll just get mad

00:45:20.520 at you for doing it.

00:45:21.640 But liberals fall for it

00:45:23.120 every time

00:45:23.920 when the left does it.

00:45:25.480 No, you're absolutely right.

00:45:26.740 Yeah.

00:45:27.000 And that's also why

00:45:27.740 it's hard sometimes

00:45:28.540 to get the right

00:45:29.520 to sort of coalesce,

00:45:30.420 you know,

00:45:30.700 around each other

00:45:31.680 because they just have

00:45:32.800 a naturally rebellious streak.

00:45:34.740 Just understand

00:45:35.760 the enemy

00:45:36.620 that it is we're facing.

00:45:37.420 They are violent. 1.00

00:45:37.980 They want you dead. 0.96

00:45:39.440 This is not...

00:45:40.380 This is not a difference

00:45:41.540 of opinion

00:45:41.960 on marginal tax rates.

00:45:43.640 And here's the thing.

00:45:45.080 Charlie Kirk

00:45:45.880 sat down

00:45:47.140 and had conversations

00:45:48.880 with people.

00:45:50.020 And they have conceded

00:45:51.140 the war of ideas

00:45:51.980 to the left

00:45:52.380 because they can't win

00:45:53.720 so they took his life.

00:45:55.080 They took his life anyway.

00:45:56.860 Now, let me ask you this.

00:45:57.820 Anyone watching?

00:45:58.540 Anyone listening?

00:46:00.480 What views do you hold

00:46:01.800 that you think

00:46:02.560 might be to the right

00:46:03.400 of Charlie Kirk?

00:46:04.080 If you vote Republican,

00:46:04.960 there's a good chance

00:46:05.660 a few of them.

00:46:06.580 What do you think

00:46:07.280 they do to you

00:46:08.080 if given the chance?

00:46:09.260 How about this?

00:46:10.440 They say Charlie Kirk

00:46:11.340 is far right.

00:46:12.480 I argue...

00:46:13.280 I argue he's a moderate.

00:46:14.260 You know why?

00:46:15.400 Because publicly,

00:46:17.300 privately,

00:46:18.340 overtly, 0.92

00:46:19.160 he said gay people

00:46:20.580 should be welcome

00:46:21.340 in their movement.

00:46:22.740 And he's got viral videos

00:46:24.380 where a young gay conservative

00:46:26.100 is talking to him 0.96

00:46:26.740 in the microphone

00:46:27.160 and Charlie says,

00:46:28.500 you don't need to describe 0.74

00:46:29.520 yourself as gay. 0.99

00:46:30.340 That's not who you are. 0.98

00:46:31.500 You're a conservative.

00:46:32.880 I hope that you come to Christ.

00:46:34.280 That's what Charlie Kirk

00:46:35.040 said to him.

00:46:36.180 Imagine 15 years ago

00:46:37.900 that the Republican Party

00:46:39.400 was not there.

00:46:40.400 They're claiming

00:46:41.000 Charlie Kirk is far right.

00:46:41.920 I argue that Charlie Kirk

00:46:43.120 was moderate.

00:46:44.460 And so what does that mean

00:46:45.720 for everybody

00:46:46.340 who actually is

00:46:47.520 staunchly conservative?

00:46:49.700 No, you're exactly right.

00:46:50.980 And I don't want to...

00:46:51.980 I don't think it was

00:46:52.480 necessarily moderate in belief.

00:46:53.720 I think it was moderate

00:46:54.400 in approach.

00:46:55.380 Sure.

00:46:55.480 And so was I for a long time.

00:46:57.220 I really was.

00:46:58.240 I really wanted to show

00:46:58.940 that we could have dialogues.

00:47:00.180 The problem is

00:47:00.960 the left killed people anyway,

00:47:02.700 so I don't care anymore.

00:47:04.100 If they want to know why,

00:47:05.920 they've made me this way.

00:47:07.860 Ruthless,

00:47:08.940 merciless, 0.99

00:47:09.980 indifferent,

00:47:11.300 lawful violence.

00:47:12.480 That is what I'm advocating.

00:47:14.160 I make no apologies for it.

00:47:15.960 Anyone who has a problem with it,

00:47:17.360 I'll make the case.

00:47:18.360 And this reaction,

00:47:19.900 this reaction saying,

00:47:21.220 actually more violence

00:47:22.080 comes from the right,

00:47:22.780 it tells you the left

00:47:24.360 is incapable of taking accountability

00:47:25.820 and they are going to continue

00:47:27.060 down this path.

00:47:27.980 More people are going to die

00:47:28.980 unless something changes

00:47:29.640 from our side.

00:47:30.080 It's that simple.

00:47:30.980 The worst thing I think about it is,

00:47:33.200 you know,

00:47:33.400 Mehdi Hassan is a good example.

00:47:34.560 He published a list of

00:47:36.060 out-of-context quotes.

00:47:37.740 He has had many of these liberals

00:47:38.900 because this is the second degree

00:47:40.940 of how they try to defend

00:47:42.420 and justify the murder.

00:47:45.040 What they're doing now is,

00:47:46.060 here's what I think happened.

00:47:47.080 I think when Charlie first

00:47:49.060 was assassinated,

00:47:50.640 liberals were all cheering and dancing.

00:47:52.220 There was one viral video

00:47:54.020 from some random woman.

00:47:55.380 She's not anyone special.

00:47:57.160 And she said,

00:47:58.080 she was laughing and said,

00:47:59.300 the best thing about it is

00:48:00.260 that Charlie was not well-known

00:48:01.560 enough to be a martyr.

00:48:03.060 That's what they thought.

00:48:04.520 And then the Yankees,

00:48:05.780 the Cowboys,

00:48:06.460 all these football teams

00:48:07.560 held a moment of silence

00:48:08.440 for Charlie.

00:48:09.340 In Vegas,

00:48:10.140 on the marquee,

00:48:10.800 they were putting up

00:48:11.400 in memory of Charlie Kirk.

00:48:12.420 The New York Times

00:48:13.040 put it on their menu bar

00:48:14.560 at the top of their website,

00:48:15.880 Charlie Kirk.

00:48:17.000 And I think then liberals realized,

00:48:19.040 oops,

00:48:19.820 this guy was actually

00:48:20.860 extremely popular

00:48:22.020 among regular people

00:48:23.140 for trying to just

00:48:24.560 have a conversation.

00:48:25.760 It was entertaining.

00:48:26.700 It was fun.

00:48:27.580 He made it fun

00:48:28.280 to have these conversations.

00:48:29.620 So they shifted their tactics.

00:48:31.740 Liberals were now

00:48:32.560 feeling scared.

00:48:33.800 Are people now

00:48:34.640 going to be mad at us

00:48:35.640 for cheering for this?

00:48:36.820 Don't worry,

00:48:37.580 says Mehdi Hassan

00:48:38.380 and Occupy Democrats.

00:48:40.240 It was wrong to kill him, 0.99

00:48:41.660 but look how evil he was. 0.99

00:48:43.780 And then the liberals

00:48:44.620 get to go,

00:48:45.160 well, he was evil,

00:48:46.080 I guess.

00:48:47.000 But those quotes

00:48:47.820 were all lies.

00:48:49.920 The most egregious of which is

00:48:51.120 there's memes going on

00:48:52.980 all over Facebook

00:48:53.580 where it says

00:48:55.060 black women in brackets 1.00

00:48:56.700 and then it says 0.91

00:48:57.780 dot, dot, dot, 0.97

00:48:58.360 don't have the brain

00:48:59.620 processing power

00:49:00.600 to be in these positions.

00:49:02.600 It was about Jackson Lee

00:49:03.280 and Ketanji Brown Jackson

00:49:04.220 who said,

00:49:05.240 I'm a DEI hire.

00:49:05.980 He never said that.

00:49:06.980 Charlie Kirk never said

00:49:08.240 black women. 1.00

00:49:08.720 He said, 0.97

00:49:09.320 these women 0.99

00:49:09.980 who have stated publicly

00:49:11.700 they were hired under DEI

00:49:13.000 didn't have the processing power,

00:49:14.780 the brain processing power,

00:49:15.600 to hold these jobs.

00:49:16.520 He was referring to

00:49:17.800 specific individuals,

00:49:19.260 not whole groups of people,

00:49:20.840 but they lie

00:49:21.500 because they need you.

00:49:23.300 They want,

00:49:23.840 what they want is

00:49:24.640 they want liberals

00:49:25.700 to publicly say,

00:49:27.800 sure,

00:49:27.960 the assassination was wrong,

00:49:29.740 but privately think

00:49:30.960 it was okay.

00:49:32.440 Well, here,

00:49:32.800 let me,

00:49:33.080 here's the thing.

00:49:34.000 They killed Charlie Kirk

00:49:35.540 who was talking specifically

00:49:37.700 about those women 0.88

00:49:38.360 who said they were DEI hires,

00:49:39.780 right? 0.63

00:49:40.040 Black women. 1.00

00:49:40.760 How about, 0.98

00:49:41.620 now you deal with

00:49:42.860 the people you've turned into this. 1.00

00:49:45.180 Those dumb bitches 1.00

00:49:46.360 who happen to be black, 1.00

00:49:48.060 Jackson Lee

00:49:48.580 and Ketanji Brown Jackson.

00:49:49.840 Hey, 1.00

00:49:50.120 those dumb bitches 1.00

00:49:51.140 who happen to be black 1.00

00:49:52.080 and tell you they got their job 0.99

00:49:52.980 because they're black. 1.00

00:49:53.660 I'm just saying dumb bitches. 1.00

00:49:55.120 They're saying they got their job 1.00

00:49:56.300 because they're black. 0.97

00:49:56.960 You draw your own conclusions. 0.99

00:49:58.220 I don't care anymore.

00:50:00.660 I don't.

00:50:01.300 And you know what else?

00:50:02.380 When I talk with actual,

00:50:03.480 with black people,

00:50:04.200 and I'm a guy,

00:50:04.780 again,

00:50:05.000 after,

00:50:05.680 you know,

00:50:05.860 we changed,

00:50:06.860 one of the things we changed,

00:50:07.600 changed my mind to talking with people

00:50:08.640 because quite literally,

00:50:09.980 it's harder to set up a shot.

00:50:11.380 So I can walk with people

00:50:12.700 and just talk with people

00:50:13.500 intent.

00:50:13.880 I had to do it out of necessity.

00:50:15.120 Then we did black and white

00:50:15.880 and the gray issues

00:50:16.440 where I go into a barbershop.

00:50:17.840 I talk. 0.73

00:50:18.780 I'm surrounded by black men.

00:50:21.200 They are not offended at all.

00:50:22.820 When I go,

00:50:23.240 hey,

00:50:23.620 you know what?

00:50:24.620 Do you understand

00:50:25.120 why we get concerned

00:50:25.900 when we find ourselves

00:50:26.940 at the intersection

00:50:27.480 of ML King Jr. Boulevard

00:50:29.060 and Malcolm X?

00:50:29.660 They go,

00:50:30.100 yeah,

00:50:30.340 we are too.

00:50:31.520 It's the left

00:50:32.520 who wants to perpetuate

00:50:34.640 this offense

00:50:35.260 because that's their currency.

00:50:37.840 It's evil.

00:50:38.920 It's evil.

00:50:39.600 Yeah,

00:50:39.680 he didn't say it,

00:50:40.420 but they're still doing it,

00:50:41.140 right?

00:50:41.560 Did you know, Stephen,

00:50:42.380 that Charlie Kirk said,

00:50:44.100 and I quote,

00:50:45.240 black children 0.94

00:50:45.980 are a gift from God. 0.96

00:50:48.080 Now,

00:50:48.260 that doesn't sound

00:50:48.980 like a white supremacist to me,

00:50:50.560 but let me caveat that.

00:50:52.040 What actually happened

00:50:53.040 was that Charlie Kirk

00:50:53.920 was at one of his events

00:50:54.840 and a black woman 0.91

00:50:55.780 walked up with her young child

00:50:57.400 who's about a year old

00:50:58.120 and she was asking Charlie

00:51:00.480 a question about faith

00:51:01.520 and made a mention

00:51:02.660 of having a child.

00:51:03.860 Charlie smiled and said,

00:51:04.940 this is,

00:51:05.460 you just had a kid recently

00:51:06.520 and said,

00:51:06.800 yes,

00:51:06.980 and he goes,

00:51:07.500 that child is a gift from God.

00:51:09.220 Now,

00:51:09.620 here's the thing.

00:51:11.180 What they do

00:51:11.780 is they apply false context.

00:51:13.920 Did Charlie say

00:51:14.800 all black children

00:51:16.080 in this context 0.97

00:51:16.780 are a gift from God?

00:51:17.380 No,

00:51:17.460 he was referring

00:51:17.820 to a single child.

00:51:19.420 The reality is,

00:51:20.180 on the right,

00:51:21.020 if I were to make

00:51:21.760 that fake quote,

00:51:23.060 conservatives would be like,

00:51:24.260 hey,

00:51:24.420 he didn't say that.

00:51:25.840 He was referring to it

00:51:26.980 because we want the truth.

00:51:28.240 We want to know

00:51:28.720 what he was actually conveying,

00:51:29.920 but we know

00:51:30.480 he literally does believe

00:51:32.240 that any child

00:51:33.120 of any background

00:51:33.640 is a gift from God

00:51:34.440 and children are fantastic.

00:51:36.120 Yeah.

00:51:36.280 We,

00:51:36.800 not only do we not

00:51:37.920 make fake quotes

00:51:38.760 to lie and smear people,

00:51:39.640 we can't

00:51:41.240 because people will get mad.

00:51:43.940 You know,

00:51:44.160 every day,

00:51:44.960 I put up a video on YouTube.

00:51:46.200 I try to make sure

00:51:46.760 the title is as accurate,

00:51:49.160 conveying my opinion

00:51:49.940 without distorting it

00:51:50.780 as possible,

00:51:51.460 and I still have people

00:51:52.580 on the right saying,

00:51:53.520 rage bait,

00:51:54.580 you're,

00:51:54.800 oh,

00:51:55.260 you're like,

00:51:55.800 this,

00:51:56.240 you know,

00:51:56.580 we put up a title

00:51:57.500 and like yesterday

00:51:58.500 with Jimmy Kimmel

00:51:59.020 getting fired,

00:51:59.840 and as soon as it goes live,

00:52:01.540 all the comments,

00:52:02.580 you know,

00:52:02.780 there's like three or four comments

00:52:03.660 saying,

00:52:04.080 this better not be clickbait,

00:52:05.400 this better be real,

00:52:06.260 as if I'm lying

00:52:07.540 when I say Jimmy Kimmel

00:52:08.460 was fired

00:52:09.020 because they won't

00:52:10.200 tolerate lies.

00:52:11.360 The left,

00:52:11.940 they revel in it.

00:52:13.620 Yeah,

00:52:13.920 well,

00:52:14.060 that's the one thing

00:52:14.700 they do agree upon.

00:52:15.760 Like,

00:52:16.020 they agree upon lying.

00:52:17.300 Like,

00:52:17.420 this is the method,

00:52:18.080 this is the battle plan,

00:52:19.140 whereas conservatives

00:52:19.660 we can disagree about

00:52:20.320 a whole lot.

00:52:20.700 Like,

00:52:20.800 for example,

00:52:21.560 I don't,

00:52:22.360 I mean,

00:52:22.820 I may disagree with

00:52:23.500 Charlie Kirk's statement

00:52:24.160 on that because the truth

00:52:25.020 is it's a 50-50 shot.

00:52:26.420 You don't know

00:52:26.780 if it's a good baby

00:52:27.480 or not.

00:52:27.940 Good baby,

00:52:28.480 Hitler baby. 0.91

00:52:28.860 You could have made

00:52:29.400 the world a worse place

00:52:30.440 for having given birth.

00:52:32.020 Now,

00:52:32.160 see,

00:52:32.260 that's a joke.

00:52:33.040 We can do that.

00:52:33.840 The left would take

00:52:34.600 that out of context.

00:52:36.000 This is,

00:52:36.580 I'm going to treat people

00:52:37.700 like they're both.

00:52:37.940 They're going to do it.

00:52:39.260 You got to treat people

00:52:40.160 like they're both.

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00:53:10.580 Hey,

00:53:10.820 you guys know what I'm saying,

00:53:11.920 right?

00:53:12.160 You guys know cancel culture,

00:53:13.340 right?

00:53:13.500 Difference between brain bits

00:53:14.480 and saying good shot

00:53:15.320 and hey,

00:53:16.000 men and women are a thing. 0.86

00:53:17.400 One is something

00:53:18.040 that is deplorable

00:53:19.260 to use their term.

00:53:20.280 One is something

00:53:20.960 that's an ever-changing rule set.

00:53:22.940 Hey,

00:53:23.160 we know the difference

00:53:23.780 between lawful defensive violence

00:53:25.200 that we've sort of abandoned

00:53:26.580 and we've offered grace instead

00:53:27.960 versus civil war.

00:53:29.180 People do.

00:53:30.280 The left wants to take another.

00:53:31.000 I went through this

00:53:31.920 with X this week

00:53:32.840 where it doesn't matter.

00:53:34.220 Did you want to talk

00:53:34.740 about our bingo card

00:53:35.680 if a head of French state

00:53:36.920 was going to be showing

00:53:37.620 her snatch in court

00:53:38.520 because of Candace Owens? 0.75

00:53:41.140 What?

00:53:41.580 No, 0.99

00:53:42.260 but it is ridiculous. 0.71

00:53:43.540 But what I do want to say 0.75

00:53:44.340 is on the issue

00:53:45.460 of lawful violence,

00:53:46.320 the idea of self-defense

00:53:48.460 that we will not

00:53:49.600 tolerate this anymore,

00:53:50.560 there is a clear

00:53:51.500 and a distinct

00:53:52.400 bit of information

00:53:53.860 the left needs to understand.

00:53:55.400 For the longest time,

00:53:56.380 we did not think

00:53:58.220 you were actually

00:53:59.100 going to kill us. 0.90

00:53:59.880 We thought it was possible. 0.97

00:54:01.460 And we thought that

00:54:02.180 when you showed up

00:54:03.080 with rocks or Molotovs,

00:54:04.500 for the most part,

00:54:06.340 the violence was bad,

00:54:07.940 but we could,

00:54:08.640 we could,

00:54:09.300 we try to avoid

00:54:10.580 the fights, right?

00:54:11.740 They say in the fight,

00:54:14.100 any fight you've avoided

00:54:15.160 is a fight you've won.

00:54:16.000 The problem now

00:54:16.900 is they've actually

00:54:18.280 killed Charlie Kirk.

00:54:20.220 And now I have

00:54:22.080 extreme fear of death

00:54:23.480 from the left,

00:54:24.200 not just because

00:54:25.000 of what I witnessed,

00:54:26.440 but because they are

00:54:27.520 posting online

00:54:28.360 a list of names

00:54:29.160 with you and me on them

00:54:30.220 saying we should be next 1.00

00:54:31.460 and saying go kill them. 1.00

00:54:34.160 I can only make 1.00

00:54:35.100 one assumption

00:54:35.780 and I have the legal

00:54:37.280 right to do so.

00:54:38.240 If I fear for my life,

00:54:40.160 I will use whatever power

00:54:42.120 I have to defend myself.

00:54:43.420 If you are going to inflict

00:54:44.960 great bodily harm 0.98

00:54:45.880 or death upon me

00:54:46.860 or the people around me,

00:54:48.240 I have a legal right

00:54:49.420 to self-defense

00:54:50.180 and they have made sure

00:54:52.000 with this killing

00:54:52.680 that we all feel

00:54:54.480 that any step they make

00:54:56.900 towards us with violence

00:54:58.240 is a risk of death.

00:55:00.520 And now I don't want

00:55:01.300 anyone to die.

00:55:02.280 I don't want anyone

00:55:02.920 to get hurt.

00:55:03.400 I oppose the death penalty.

00:55:05.000 I want people to live

00:55:07.180 peacefully and comfortably,

00:55:08.540 but I am not going

00:55:09.480 to sit back 0.99

00:55:09.980 and let you just shoot me 1.00

00:55:11.100 or kill me. 1.00

00:55:11.960 So my eyes, 1.00

00:55:13.160 I am staying vigilant.

00:55:14.660 I am getting my security guards

00:55:15.780 and I'll keep it real simple.

00:55:17.500 You know what?

00:55:18.020 I'm going to say this,

00:55:19.080 Stephen,

00:55:19.420 I will never,

00:55:21.100 I will never

00:55:22.400 even defend myself.

00:55:24.420 I want you to hear that.

00:55:25.080 You know why?

00:55:25.600 My armed guards

00:55:26.860 with AR-15s

00:55:27.780 will do it for me

00:55:28.540 who are around me

00:55:29.380 and watching to make sure

00:55:30.280 if you try to step forward

00:55:32.040 and risk the life

00:55:32.920 of me and my family,

00:55:33.980 they will use

00:55:34.600 all legal means

00:55:35.520 to stop the threat

00:55:36.380 before you can hurt

00:55:37.140 other people.

00:55:38.420 Yeah.

00:55:38.940 Well, I understand that,

00:55:39.640 for example,

00:55:40.020 when I did,

00:55:40.760 because a lot of the

00:55:41.500 change my minds

00:55:41.880 weren't even on campus.

00:55:42.580 They were just in,

00:55:43.180 you know,

00:55:43.920 public spaces.

00:55:45.200 It's the one time

00:55:46.000 I didn't carry.

00:55:46.560 My security guards

00:55:48.080 were there for the left

00:55:49.740 because what do you think

00:55:51.140 I do to you?

00:55:52.020 What do you think

00:55:52.560 I do to these people

00:55:53.660 if they're not there?

00:55:54.720 If I'm sitting with my family,

00:55:56.000 you've met me.

00:55:57.260 You know,

00:55:57.800 look,

00:55:58.120 it's a hobby.

00:55:58.960 Some people,

00:55:59.660 you know,

00:56:00.040 they dabble in watercolors,

00:56:01.640 oils.

00:56:02.220 Mine is fighting.

00:56:03.180 That's been a hobby of mine

00:56:04.340 for a long time.

00:56:05.500 They're there to protect them

00:56:06.780 because if you steal

00:56:07.640 a homeless man's lunchbox 0.64

00:56:08.860 and launch it at my face 0.99

00:56:10.340 while claiming you're a woman 0.91

00:56:11.800 in a letterman's jacket,

00:56:12.740 it's an actual video.

00:56:13.380 You can go watch it. 1.00

00:56:14.440 I would have beaten your ass, 1.00

00:56:16.320 but now afforded no grace. 1.00

00:56:17.840 I agree with you

00:56:18.260 and I think it's a very noble thought.

00:56:19.400 I disagree with one thing.

00:56:20.880 I don't want everyone

00:56:22.140 to live in peace and comfort

00:56:23.340 unless they deserve it,

00:56:24.780 unless they've earned it.

00:56:26.000 And in this country,

00:56:26.840 for me now,

00:56:27.440 it's you need to earn it.

00:56:28.740 I want them to live in fear

00:56:30.220 and discomfort

00:56:31.500 if they are willing

00:56:32.420 to commit acts of violence

00:56:33.400 because of political differences.

00:56:34.940 I don't want them to have peace.

00:56:36.080 I don't.

00:56:36.900 I really don't.

00:56:38.060 I appreciate you going longer.

00:56:41.020 This has been a lot of fun.

00:56:42.300 So I'll say one last thing.

00:56:43.640 I've got advice

00:56:44.580 for these leftists,

00:56:45.800 for these liberals,

00:56:46.700 and I hope they take it.

00:56:48.580 Hear me.

00:56:49.820 I want you to go

00:56:51.080 to Walmart

00:56:52.220 buy a nice little cheap folding table

00:56:54.480 and some big white poster board

00:56:56.300 and write on it, 1.00

00:56:57.420 Trump is a fascist. 1.00

00:56:58.580 Change my mind 1.00

00:56:59.360 and go sit down at a university

00:57:00.940 and tape it there

00:57:01.560 and have a peaceful conversation.

00:57:03.800 That'll show those conservatives,

00:57:05.620 challenge them to a bait

00:57:06.620 and their ideas,

00:57:07.360 change their minds,

00:57:08.300 and you will win

00:57:09.220 the political debate.

00:57:09.840 But for the most part,

00:57:12.420 they have tried

00:57:12.980 wearing masks,

00:57:14.020 beating people,

00:57:14.820 threatening people.

00:57:15.720 You know what?

00:57:16.360 That doesn't fly.

00:57:18.060 Try the change my mind approach

00:57:19.700 and I,

00:57:20.800 with a smile on my face,

00:57:21.780 will say,

00:57:22.420 appreciate it.

00:57:24.120 Oh, I appreciate it.

00:57:25.100 And you know what?

00:57:25.540 I would tell them,

00:57:26.320 bring security with you,

00:57:27.300 but don't.

00:57:28.180 Bring security,

00:57:28.820 be prudent,

00:57:29.260 but you know you won't need it,

00:57:30.620 leftists,

00:57:30.900 because you never do.

00:57:32.040 I've lived amongst them too.

00:57:33.080 I've also gone and care

00:57:34.340 with the left for,

00:57:35.540 going back to 2012,

00:57:36.760 you might have even run into me

00:57:37.660 and Occupy Wall Street

00:57:38.460 with a hammer and sickle

00:57:39.460 as a communist.

00:57:41.280 And I know,

00:57:42.340 I've lived among them.

00:57:43.440 Like,

00:57:43.620 I have been among them

00:57:44.560 my whole life.

00:57:45.820 And here's the one difference.

00:57:47.460 I agree with you

00:57:48.400 on 99% of what you said.

00:57:49.900 And this is me

00:57:50.620 taking ownership.

00:57:51.740 I always thought

00:57:53.000 it was a matter of time

00:57:54.600 before it came to this

00:57:55.460 and one got through.

00:57:56.480 I knew it was

00:57:57.420 not only a possibility

00:57:58.580 and inevitability,

00:57:59.920 and I screwed up

00:58:01.000 by not making it

00:58:02.640 as clear as possible.

00:58:04.040 I could have sounded

00:58:04.900 the alarm.

00:58:05.500 I told people

00:58:06.200 it was dangerous.

00:58:06.820 I told people

00:58:07.940 that the left

00:58:09.000 obviously is,

00:58:10.180 they're uncaring, 0.99

00:58:11.620 they're unempathetic. 0.99

00:58:12.800 I didn't shout it enough 0.97

00:58:15.340 and I'm trying

00:58:16.260 to make those wrongs right.

00:58:18.100 Everyone out there,

00:58:19.000 know what you are in for.

00:58:20.760 Understand the risks.

00:58:21.780 I don't want to see

00:58:22.680 any more bodies stacked.

00:58:23.900 And I feel that there will be.

00:58:25.080 We knew it was bad,

00:58:26.600 but we didn't want to believe

00:58:27.460 it would get to this point

00:58:28.220 even though we kind of knew.

00:58:29.840 But,

00:58:30.140 Stephen,

00:58:31.000 it's been awesome having you.

00:58:31.980 I really do appreciate you

00:58:33.000 joining me.

00:58:34.100 Where can people find you

00:58:35.000 if they don't already know?

00:58:35.620 Well,

00:58:37.420 again,

00:58:38.000 because I'm persona non grata

00:58:39.240 at YouTube,

00:58:40.040 but Rumble,

00:58:40.560 live stream every day

00:58:41.480 and you're on that lineup too

00:58:42.820 where each show rolls

00:58:43.540 in the next 11 a.m. Eastern

00:58:45.060 every day of the week.

00:58:46.980 And,

00:58:47.200 you know,

00:58:47.720 we're still number one

00:58:49.480 there in our time slot

00:58:50.260 and it's going on a long time.

00:58:51.980 By the way,

00:58:52.640 Rumble being more downloaded

00:58:53.600 than YouTube

00:58:54.020 in the App Store now.

00:58:55.480 That's a real change.

00:58:57.280 Yeah,

00:58:57.440 I really want to see YouTube,

00:58:59.580 I mean,

00:59:00.160 figuratively,

00:59:00.640 by the way,

00:59:00.960 just to be clear

00:59:01.400 because of all this talk of violence, 0.99

00:59:02.300 I want to see YouTube die

00:59:03.340 as a platform,

00:59:04.120 but first I want to see it suffer.

00:59:05.240 Right on,

00:59:07.260 man.

00:59:07.420 Well,

00:59:07.700 I appreciate it,

00:59:08.400 man,

00:59:08.540 and I'll talk to you next time.

00:59:10.780 Appreciate it.

00:59:11.320 Stay safe,

00:59:11.740 brother.

00:59:12.020 Take care.

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The Culture War - Tim Pool - September 18, 2025

Death Threats Against Conservatives SKYROCKET After Charlie Kirk Assassination ft. Steven Crowder

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