The Culture War - Tim Pool - September 18, 2025


Death Threats Against Conservatives SKYROCKET After Charlie Kirk Assassination ft. Steven Crowder


Episode Stats

Length

59 minutes

Words per Minute

204.65103

Word Count

12,247

Sentence Count

958

Misogynist Sentences

28

Hate Speech Sentences

26


Summary

Since the assassination of conservative commentator Charlie Kirk, death threats have been skyrocketing across the board. To get a better sense of what's going on, we are being joined by the man himself, Steven Crowder, to give us an understanding of what s been happening to him.


Transcript

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00:01:00.240 People are talking about taking that place
00:01:01.780 and picking up the microphone.
00:01:03.220 I get it.
00:01:03.620 It's very touching.
00:01:04.540 People need to know
00:01:05.260 that there are still crosshairs on that microphone,
00:01:08.340 and people need to take it seriously.
00:01:10.160 So when people say that I'm being irresponsible,
00:01:12.480 I am doing the most responsible thing
00:01:14.460 I can think to do
00:01:15.440 in trying to write maybe some errors,
00:01:18.820 mistakes on my part.
00:01:19.880 I told people it was dangerous.
00:01:21.000 I didn't tell them the entire extent,
00:01:24.420 and I hope people know and take it seriously.
00:01:26.540 And the only thing that's going to curb it
00:01:27.860 is for the left to be afraid to even think of it.
00:01:31.680 Since the assassination of Charlie Kirk,
00:01:34.600 death threats have been skyrocketing across the board.
00:01:37.340 On every social media platform,
00:01:38.580 you are seeing lists of names be produced,
00:01:40.940 and they are engaging in terroristic threats.
00:01:44.140 It is borderline overt.
00:01:45.940 I say borderline because what I call
00:01:47.620 Tweedledee Tweedledum threats,
00:01:48.880 where one person says,
00:01:50.780 I think more conservatives should die.
00:01:53.320 Someone then says,
00:01:54.180 here's a list of the people that should die.
00:01:56.260 And none of them is creating the imminent threat,
00:01:58.680 but together it forms an imminent threat.
00:02:01.000 So the question now is,
00:02:02.360 how do we deal with this?
00:02:03.800 And no, it's not just fringe far leftists.
00:02:06.560 Take a look at this from the post-millennial.
00:02:08.840 Local Democratic Party in Washington
00:02:10.620 deletes post-mocking assassination of Charlie Kirk.
00:02:14.160 It is overt.
00:02:15.760 It is obvious.
00:02:17.020 It is happening across the board.
00:02:18.400 It's affecting everybody.
00:02:19.340 So to get a better sense of what's going on,
00:02:21.040 we are being joined by the man himself,
00:02:23.160 Steven Crowder,
00:02:24.060 to give us an understanding of what his perspective is,
00:02:26.520 what's been happening to him.
00:02:27.440 I've obviously talked a lot about
00:02:29.260 what we are going through here.
00:02:31.240 Security assessments, increased security,
00:02:32.860 it's getting crazy.
00:02:34.160 How's it going, Steven Crowder?
00:02:35.180 How you doing?
00:02:37.300 Well, I appreciate, thanks for the intro.
00:02:40.120 Here's the thing,
00:02:40.680 I wouldn't even necessarily say that it's different.
00:02:43.060 And that's what I think is so bothersome,
00:02:45.500 is we have lived under this cloud for very, very long.
00:02:49.140 Anytime we show up, anytime, you know,
00:02:51.900 when I've talked about this and Charlie said it as an inspiration,
00:02:55.220 he took it to a different level,
00:02:56.660 even changed my mind was an idea to challenge the left in 2016
00:03:00.180 on the idea of civil dialogue.
00:03:02.140 Like, we'll just, we'll do it.
00:03:03.720 It won't be cable news.
00:03:04.460 It won't be edited.
00:03:04.980 And it became increasingly violent.
00:03:08.040 I mean, I've had, so to give you an idea,
00:03:10.480 and the left always says,
00:03:11.440 oh, you're fine, you're okay.
00:03:12.760 I had a trans, and if this is on YouTube,
00:03:15.900 I had a trans individual,
00:03:18.000 you scream at me and then steal a homeless man's
00:03:20.740 lunchbox pencil case, whip it at me from a blind spot.
00:03:23.680 I've had someone try to bash me over the head with a rock.
00:03:25.480 I've had attempts with concrete milkshakes,
00:03:27.820 slash tires, calls to firebomb the car,
00:03:31.020 attempts on my life, actually a terrorist.
00:03:33.120 And I haven't talked about this until now.
00:03:34.780 And you know this because the real threats,
00:03:36.420 you don't want copycats.
00:03:37.560 Yep.
00:03:37.920 Terrorists from Yemen by way of Sweden,
00:03:40.000 posting the address, my family's work address,
00:03:42.180 the route to, between the addresses.
00:03:45.180 And I can only, my life is likely saved
00:03:47.460 because a fan saw it posted on YouTube in a comment
00:03:51.040 and cross-referenced the zip code with East Grand Rapids PD
00:03:53.920 and they showed up at my house.
00:03:54.980 This has been going on for a very long time.
00:03:57.300 When I performed, when I did a change of my mind at SMU,
00:04:00.300 the man in charge of the police there,
00:04:02.760 I asked my, my father.
00:04:04.340 He said, why does he need this kind of security?
00:04:06.880 Maya Angelou was here however many years ago.
00:04:08.700 She didn't need it.
00:04:09.940 And my dad turned to him and said,
00:04:11.240 why do you think that is?
00:04:13.140 Yeah.
00:04:13.720 And you could see the lights turn on.
00:04:15.320 I hope, and to be clear,
00:04:16.640 because I know I've, you know,
00:04:17.560 made some waves by advocating violence.
00:04:20.060 I am.
00:04:20.940 Not even political violence.
00:04:22.220 I'm advocating for lawful violence,
00:04:25.120 protection of you and your own,
00:04:27.760 where grace has been afforded before.
00:04:29.760 What I mean is, if you were in a restaurant,
00:04:32.480 if you were at your school recital for your kids
00:04:35.220 and someone came up and was throwing a milkshake at you,
00:04:38.620 or you don't know if it's strawberry, chocolate,
00:04:40.340 vanilla, acid, or concrete, you'd beat their ass.
00:04:42.660 We haven't because we've been taking the high road.
00:04:45.520 And so it's been open season.
00:04:47.140 We are being hunted.
00:04:48.780 Charlie Kirk was hunted.
00:04:51.000 Let's be very clear about that.
00:04:52.540 And what you're seeing, Tim, you know this,
00:04:54.240 and everyone behind is afraid because I get it.
00:04:57.180 No one wants to, you don't want to make it about yourself,
00:04:58.860 but I know what you've been through.
00:05:00.480 I know what you've been through.
00:05:01.600 And I know that, you know,
00:05:02.560 people are just seeing the one that got through.
00:05:04.420 And when you block and you block and you block
00:05:06.080 and you block all of these other assaults,
00:05:07.880 all of these other attempts,
00:05:09.300 people say, well, you're fine.
00:05:10.360 You're a big guy, right?
00:05:11.680 No, that stops now.
00:05:13.860 I want the left.
00:05:14.760 I want Destiny to be able to do his copycat,
00:05:17.120 change my mind thing with no security, as he has done.
00:05:19.480 I hope that they can continue to speak freely
00:05:21.740 with very little security for the rest of their lives.
00:05:25.120 I want the left to be deathly afraid of showing up to ours
00:05:29.340 and even thinking about being violently disruptive.
00:05:33.120 I hope that I've been crystal clear.
00:05:35.160 And if people have a problem with it,
00:05:37.000 I will answer for anything I've said.
00:05:39.260 You know, I hear what you're saying.
00:05:40.560 What people don't understand is,
00:05:42.960 it's like you said,
00:05:43.820 only the one that gets through is what people hear about.
00:05:46.240 I cannot begin to list out all of the instances we've had
00:05:50.740 or the death threats that we get
00:05:52.540 because it creates security issues.
00:05:55.240 So we've had,
00:05:56.600 I have had dealt with local police,
00:05:59.420 criminal prosecutions, lawsuits.
00:06:02.280 I have had people who have committed crimes against us
00:06:05.320 threaten legal action,
00:06:06.900 which threatens the lives of other people.
00:06:09.020 I can't get into great details on this.
00:06:11.000 I know, I get it.
00:06:12.060 That's the problem, right?
00:06:13.000 You can't.
00:06:13.500 And so the left goes,
00:06:14.300 oh, Tim Pool, little drama bitch,
00:06:16.640 or whatever they say.
00:06:17.280 And I didn't mean to be so rough on you.
00:06:18.400 I'm trying to, you know,
00:06:19.080 I'm trying to steel man them.
00:06:20.800 And drama bitches is probably about as good as they can do.
00:06:22.540 It's crazy how,
00:06:23.800 trying to keep this as vague as I can
00:06:25.280 for obvious security reasons.
00:06:26.800 Yeah.
00:06:27.260 One threat that we had
00:06:28.740 that manifested in physical action,
00:06:30.880 when we tried to get it dealt with,
00:06:33.580 the legal response threatened the life
00:06:35.760 of a third party public personality.
00:06:38.920 And so our lawyer was basically like,
00:06:43.180 you can fight this and win,
00:06:45.940 and then they will use that against you
00:06:48.240 to target the third party.
00:06:49.760 Right.
00:06:50.280 Or you can choose to back off,
00:06:51.900 stop the fight.
00:06:53.120 They were effectively,
00:06:54.140 it was like blackmail.
00:06:55.360 And for security reasons,
00:06:57.340 I can't even begin to describe
00:06:58.280 what exactly was going on
00:06:59.360 or how it would play out,
00:07:00.240 because that would open the door
00:07:01.900 and create the threats.
00:07:02.780 It's insane.
00:07:03.680 We had a man in a dress
00:07:04.800 show up at our old location
00:07:06.660 and physically attack
00:07:07.860 one of the residents.
00:07:08.760 We're not there anymore.
00:07:10.180 We're not there.
00:07:11.560 Well, plus it's gross.
00:07:12.940 Yeah.
00:07:13.700 But so apparently this guy
00:07:15.640 shows up in a dress,
00:07:16.920 and I'm not saying trans person.
00:07:18.500 This is a clear distinction.
00:07:19.780 It was literally just a man in a dress
00:07:21.460 and was walking around
00:07:23.560 on our old property filming.
00:07:26.000 And I got informed by our security
00:07:27.780 that this was occurring.
00:07:28.920 The next day,
00:07:29.900 one of the people who live there,
00:07:30.900 because again,
00:07:31.400 we don't operate there anymore,
00:07:32.840 was physically attacked by this man.
00:07:35.340 And it became a huge issue.
00:07:37.000 The locals are all really pissed off
00:07:39.100 because they were mad when I was there
00:07:41.820 because of the threats,
00:07:42.660 the swattings,
00:07:43.200 the bomb threats.
00:07:44.060 We had the bomb squad come several times.
00:07:46.120 And now I'm gone,
00:07:47.640 and it's still happening
00:07:48.420 because these people
00:07:49.800 have still published our old address
00:07:51.240 acting like it's real.
00:07:52.500 If I list out all of the things
00:07:54.600 that we had to deal with,
00:07:55.700 one recent incident this past weekend,
00:07:57.560 just days after Charlie Kirk's assassination,
00:07:59.520 I think the unfortunate reality is
00:08:02.880 we can't convey the true extent
00:08:05.340 of how dangerous the left is
00:08:07.500 because it increases the danger to us.
00:08:09.800 But as you've already pointed out,
00:08:11.240 then people don't know
00:08:12.400 just how serious it is.
00:08:13.940 Well, that's what,
00:08:14.820 I mean, you know,
00:08:15.300 there's been a lot of mixed emotions.
00:08:17.140 And I'm not talking about,
00:08:18.900 now I've been really clear too
00:08:20.160 because I feel like there's a lot
00:08:21.220 of clout chasing out there.
00:08:22.160 People saying,
00:08:22.660 me and Charlie Kirk were best friends.
00:08:24.100 I have said,
00:08:24.460 Charlie Kirk and I were not close friends.
00:08:26.380 We were colleagues.
00:08:27.420 I had respect for his testicular,
00:08:29.520 fortitude as all of us did.
00:08:31.260 And we were cordial.
00:08:31.880 That's it.
00:08:32.580 So I don't want to claim
00:08:33.400 that I speak for him.
00:08:34.460 And I don't want to claim
00:08:35.340 that I know what his family thinks
00:08:36.560 because people will throw that back.
00:08:37.740 A lot of other people are doing that.
00:08:39.380 But I will say this,
00:08:40.620 I guarantee you he was scared.
00:08:43.580 He was brave.
00:08:44.800 He wasn't fearless.
00:08:45.600 He was brave.
00:08:46.400 He knew,
00:08:47.160 and I was angry at first
00:08:48.120 because I watched it.
00:08:49.220 And I go,
00:08:50.060 like we stopped doing,
00:08:51.660 changed my mind a while ago
00:08:52.360 because of the security risk, right?
00:08:53.540 And we go,
00:08:53.760 no, you don't announce it beforehand.
00:08:55.200 We never,
00:08:55.480 I go like,
00:08:55.760 ah, the speaker,
00:08:57.080 the balcony is like,
00:08:57.960 these are part of a protocol
00:08:59.160 that we had.
00:09:00.640 And then it came to,
00:09:02.960 look,
00:09:03.640 I mean,
00:09:03.820 why didn't I pick up a phone?
00:09:05.940 You know,
00:09:06.380 I've been through that.
00:09:07.260 And the truth is,
00:09:08.840 I did this initially,
00:09:10.220 and I know about
00:09:10.780 all the security threats.
00:09:11.500 And like you said,
00:09:12.040 because I didn't want copycats,
00:09:13.600 I would tell people
00:09:14.400 I had some close calls.
00:09:15.640 Yeah.
00:09:15.800 And I see kids going out there
00:09:17.280 and I get it.
00:09:18.700 And the alternative is silence
00:09:20.080 and we cannot be terrorized
00:09:21.820 into silence.
00:09:22.500 But I want people to know,
00:09:23.680 and I should have been clearer about it,
00:09:25.500 that out there is the real world.
00:09:26.700 And in the real world,
00:09:27.540 there are psychos.
00:09:28.300 And if I would have told people
00:09:29.880 the violence then
00:09:31.080 that they face,
00:09:31.940 that the left wants you dead,
00:09:33.940 they will take your life.
00:09:35.380 And if they are unsuccessful,
00:09:36.500 they will take your name.
00:09:38.580 Maybe we could have had
00:09:39.460 a different outcome.
00:09:40.280 I don't know,
00:09:41.080 but I do know this.
00:09:41.960 If someone is going to try
00:09:43.160 and people are talking
00:09:44.240 about taking that place
00:09:45.120 and picking up the microphone,
00:09:46.500 I get it.
00:09:46.940 It's very touching.
00:09:47.860 People need to know
00:09:48.580 that there are still crosshairs
00:09:50.400 on that microphone
00:09:51.480 and people need to take it seriously.
00:09:53.220 So when people say
00:09:54.440 that I'm being irresponsible,
00:09:55.820 I am doing the most responsible thing
00:09:57.780 I can think to do
00:09:58.760 in trying to write
00:10:00.440 maybe some errors,
00:10:02.140 mistakes on my part.
00:10:03.200 I told people it was dangerous.
00:10:04.660 I didn't tell them
00:10:05.520 the entire extent.
00:10:07.740 And I hope people know
00:10:08.780 and take it seriously.
00:10:09.880 And the only thing
00:10:10.520 that's going to curb it
00:10:11.180 is for the left
00:10:12.360 to be afraid
00:10:13.360 to even think of it.
00:10:14.940 We have afforded them grace
00:10:16.080 where they do not deserve it.
00:10:17.840 And I make no apologies for this.
00:10:19.400 I'm not calling for a civil war.
00:10:20.740 I'm not calling for people
00:10:22.240 to go out
00:10:22.800 and violently disrupt
00:10:24.200 the left in any way.
00:10:25.580 And here's the thing.
00:10:26.820 No one is afraid of that.
00:10:27.980 Do you know how I know?
00:10:29.140 Because they desecrate
00:10:30.160 the memorials
00:10:30.900 and spit at the vigils right now.
00:10:32.700 They still do it
00:10:33.680 with no fear.
00:10:35.620 Impunity.
00:10:36.120 No fear.
00:10:36.480 Complete impunity.
00:10:37.600 And that has to stop.
00:10:38.880 And the big difference,
00:10:39.620 I've said this,
00:10:40.520 between 2008 me on YouTube,
00:10:42.260 2012 me,
00:10:43.060 2015 me,
00:10:44.940 Charlie Kirk and me,
00:10:46.320 is this team of people
00:10:46.880 we've said our money
00:10:47.520 will hurt you.
00:10:49.460 We will.
00:10:50.020 And that has to happen
00:10:51.040 and I hope I see more guys out there
00:10:52.700 willing to protect,
00:10:53.800 not be violent offensively,
00:10:56.100 protect our own
00:10:57.160 because we have it.
00:10:58.260 Lawful self-defense.
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00:11:29.400 And this is a good point
00:11:31.520 you bring up
00:11:31.840 because there's a viral video,
00:11:33.540 I commented on it,
00:11:34.820 where it showed
00:11:35.800 all these instances
00:11:36.720 where people on the right
00:11:37.740 had gone to rallies
00:11:38.480 and got attacked
00:11:39.080 and they never defend themselves.
00:11:41.460 It was very rare.
00:11:43.180 There was like
00:11:43.680 based stick man
00:11:44.660 back in, you know what,
00:11:45.440 2018 or whatever.
00:11:46.900 The one time
00:11:47.740 a right winger
00:11:48.800 after the left came
00:11:50.700 and attacked
00:11:51.220 a peaceful rally,
00:11:52.200 they defended themselves.
00:11:53.740 So I,
00:11:54.780 and I agree,
00:11:55.380 look at this.
00:11:56.180 It is still you and I
00:11:57.220 talking about the restraint
00:11:58.160 we need to have,
00:11:59.540 how we don't want
00:12:00.180 an escalation of violence,
00:12:01.020 but we have to be prepared
00:12:01.940 when they engage
00:12:03.240 in violence against us
00:12:04.080 for legal, lawful self-defense
00:12:06.400 to stop that from happening.
00:12:07.660 But I want to,
00:12:08.160 I want to say something.
00:12:08.920 You just said
00:12:09.440 there are psychos out there
00:12:10.760 and here's where
00:12:11.340 it's truly scary.
00:12:13.120 I've long said,
00:12:14.940 maybe even six months ago,
00:12:16.960 I'm not scared of Antifa.
00:12:19.540 I don't fear leftists.
00:12:21.600 They make these threats online.
00:12:23.140 We take them seriously,
00:12:23.900 but I'm more worried
00:12:25.380 about the lunatic
00:12:26.540 who thinks I stole
00:12:27.660 all of his spoons
00:12:28.460 and have hid them
00:12:29.020 in my basement
00:12:29.560 because some of the most egregious-
00:12:33.340 You don't have entirely
00:12:34.300 clean hands on that one.
00:12:35.480 We know that you collect spoons, Tim.
00:12:37.340 No, well, it's Seamus Coughlin,
00:12:38.680 but that's a whole other story.
00:12:40.260 Throwing us off the scent.
00:12:41.860 So I've had psychopaths.
00:12:43.860 A lot of the most serious threats
00:12:45.380 that we get
00:12:45.900 that we forward to the FBI
00:12:46.780 and things like that
00:12:47.460 are just lunatics
00:12:49.120 saying things that make no sense
00:12:51.020 but are serious threats.
00:12:52.940 This changes now.
00:12:53.920 And while I always consider
00:12:56.320 the left to be
00:12:56.860 a very serious threat
00:12:57.740 and we have security
00:12:58.380 because of the left,
00:13:00.300 Charlie Kirk didn't even believe
00:13:01.940 that this was possible.
00:13:04.020 If Charlie Kirk thought
00:13:05.240 by stepping out into that tent
00:13:07.000 he would take a bullet,
00:13:07.920 he wouldn't have done it.
00:13:09.180 We thought security was good enough,
00:13:11.780 it's not going to happen,
00:13:12.720 and it did.
00:13:13.800 And I'll tell you
00:13:14.420 where the real fear comes now.
00:13:16.400 I have friends on Facebook
00:13:17.800 that I have known for decades
00:13:18.980 since I was a child.
00:13:20.580 I have gone to holiday
00:13:21.500 dinners with them.
00:13:22.460 Let me guess.
00:13:22.880 Hold on.
00:13:23.240 Before you tell me this,
00:13:24.020 because I just had this conversation
00:13:25.080 three times this week.
00:13:26.060 All right.
00:13:26.240 Let's see if I'm clairvoyant.
00:13:27.420 Let me guess.
00:13:28.980 Shocked at the gleeful celebration
00:13:30.620 or condoning of the assassination
00:13:32.160 and you're no longer friends.
00:13:33.500 Am I close?
00:13:34.280 You are.
00:13:34.740 You hit the nail on the head.
00:13:37.780 I have seen posts
00:13:38.980 that have argued
00:13:40.320 Trump killed Charlie Kirk
00:13:42.720 to justify an expansion
00:13:44.660 of the security state
00:13:45.900 from people I know
00:13:47.380 who know that
00:13:48.280 Charlie and I were friends.
00:13:49.920 And I heard what you said
00:13:50.940 about you're not close friends.
00:13:52.100 I would also like to
00:13:53.060 make sure I clarify this too.
00:13:54.540 It's a weird thing, right?
00:13:56.060 I knew Charlie.
00:13:57.260 I had his phone number.
00:13:58.040 We texted.
00:13:58.760 We didn't go out for beers
00:13:59.720 or go golfing or anything.
00:14:01.000 But I didn't consider him
00:14:02.060 just to be a work colleague
00:14:03.060 because of the support
00:14:03.960 that he had offered me.
00:14:04.820 I considered it to be
00:14:05.680 a friend.
00:14:08.000 And there are many people
00:14:09.180 that I don't hang out with
00:14:09.760 I consider to be friends.
00:14:10.980 But I don't want people
00:14:11.620 to think that we were like
00:14:12.840 bar buddies or anything like that.
00:14:14.280 You were closer with him
00:14:15.300 than I was.
00:14:15.800 And I just want to be clear
00:14:17.080 about that
00:14:17.360 because I know that people go,
00:14:18.460 do you think this is what
00:14:19.520 Charlie would have wanted?
00:14:20.500 Well, I don't know.
00:14:21.020 He's dead.
00:14:21.640 I don't know.
00:14:22.200 He's dead.
00:14:22.540 He can't speak.
00:14:23.120 And he's dead because
00:14:23.740 he sat down at a table
00:14:24.640 and allowed anyone
00:14:25.400 who would speak
00:14:26.620 or listen to have a conversation.
00:14:28.640 And very few people
00:14:29.200 know what it's like
00:14:29.680 to be in that chair.
00:14:30.840 I do.
00:14:31.800 I know what it feels like.
00:14:33.480 I know when you're surrounded.
00:14:35.320 I know the kind of balls
00:14:36.240 it took for Charlie Kirk to do.
00:14:37.440 He is dead.
00:14:39.060 And so when people say
00:14:39.740 tone down the temperature,
00:14:40.640 well, hot.
00:14:41.600 Oh, you know what?
00:14:42.560 Let's host a vigil.
00:14:43.280 Well, I can't do that.
00:14:44.060 You know what?
00:14:44.820 Let's host an event.
00:14:46.720 Can't do that.
00:14:47.740 Let's do a tour.
00:14:49.180 Can't do that.
00:14:49.920 So what they really mean
00:14:50.620 is silence.
00:14:51.800 Yep.
00:14:52.240 Or do you really
00:14:52.820 or how much do you want
00:14:53.700 your kids to have a father?
00:14:54.760 It is terrorism.
00:14:56.860 One thing I would say,
00:14:57.660 I don't,
00:14:58.780 and I'm not supposed
00:14:59.400 to disagree with you.
00:15:00.200 I don't know
00:15:01.040 if Charlie Kirk
00:15:01.760 did know
00:15:02.940 or didn't think
00:15:03.940 it was possible.
00:15:05.540 I hope that he knew
00:15:06.800 it was possible
00:15:07.500 because I very much did.
00:15:09.500 I mean,
00:15:09.620 we had some,
00:15:10.440 which I'll talk about
00:15:11.240 probably more off air,
00:15:12.000 some serious close calls
00:15:13.300 where every time
00:15:14.500 I've been out in public,
00:15:15.120 I've known that it's
00:15:16.200 a very serious possibility.
00:15:18.140 And I know that he knew risk.
00:15:19.600 So whether he thought
00:15:20.420 he would pay with his life
00:15:22.380 to a terrorist,
00:15:23.560 I don't know.
00:15:24.180 But I know he went out there
00:15:25.700 and did it anyway,
00:15:26.340 assuming some risk.
00:15:27.400 And the left doesn't do that.
00:15:28.740 They don't have to.
00:15:29.440 It only comes from the left.
00:15:30.780 I agree with you on that.
00:15:31.580 And what I mean to say is
00:15:32.680 we all think it's possible.
00:15:35.520 But my point is
00:15:36.540 if Charlie Kirk knew
00:15:37.680 at that moment
00:15:38.340 walking out meant
00:15:39.340 there was a guy
00:15:39.960 waiting to kill him,
00:15:40.540 he wouldn't have done it.
00:15:41.200 No one is going to walk
00:15:42.440 into death intentionally
00:15:43.660 for no reason.
00:15:44.980 We all assume the risk.
00:15:46.640 That's why Charlie had security
00:15:47.980 because, of course,
00:15:49.200 it's a possibility.
00:15:50.480 What's scary now is
00:15:51.580 when run-of-the-mill
00:15:53.280 default libs,
00:15:54.300 we call them,
00:15:55.360 are posting justification,
00:15:57.960 lying about Charlie Kirk,
00:15:59.240 or saying other people
00:16:01.080 deserve it too.
00:16:02.240 I'm sitting here
00:16:02.960 looking at these posts
00:16:03.760 from people that I've known
00:16:04.600 my whole life.
00:16:05.440 And I messaged one friend
00:16:06.760 saying,
00:16:07.120 you realize that
00:16:07.920 the guy was a friend of mine
00:16:09.640 that for three years
00:16:11.540 we would go out
00:16:12.660 and visit,
00:16:13.060 we would do this show with him
00:16:13.980 and he would sit with us.
00:16:15.200 He's been on the show
00:16:15.620 several times.
00:16:16.480 No response.
00:16:17.800 They've cut me off.
00:16:19.580 And to see other people,
00:16:20.820 my whole feed
00:16:21.720 is filled with
00:16:22.660 every liberal being like
00:16:23.820 other people
00:16:24.800 deserve what's coming.
00:16:26.040 And that's when I realized
00:16:27.060 the fear we have now
00:16:28.880 and the increase
00:16:29.460 in death threats
00:16:30.080 and the increase in security,
00:16:31.880 a line has been crossed
00:16:32.960 and it didn't.
00:16:34.860 You know,
00:16:35.120 I was asked the other night,
00:16:36.020 one of our members
00:16:36.680 in the call and show,
00:16:37.280 do you think this will
00:16:38.020 wake the left up
00:16:38.860 and they'll calm down?
00:16:39.960 We've already seen the inverse.
00:16:41.440 It's a green light for them.
00:16:43.560 Yes.
00:16:43.840 Let me tell you,
00:16:44.340 there would have been
00:16:45.200 one acceptable response
00:16:47.340 from the left
00:16:47.780 and only one.
00:16:49.240 Would have been,
00:16:50.060 okay,
00:16:50.280 all right,
00:16:50.580 guys,
00:16:50.940 guys,
00:16:51.800 this one's on us.
00:16:53.280 We called you fascists,
00:16:54.620 we called you Nazis
00:16:55.320 and we know,
00:16:56.060 right,
00:16:56.700 you don't deal with fascists
00:16:57.660 at the ballot box,
00:16:58.400 you can't.
00:16:58.940 So we box people
00:16:59.960 into violence.
00:17:00.560 Hey,
00:17:00.800 guys,
00:17:01.120 this one's on us.
00:17:01.920 We presented every single view
00:17:03.420 from those on the right
00:17:04.180 as violence.
00:17:04.820 If they were pro-life,
00:17:05.960 it was violence against women.
00:17:06.920 If they were pro-Second Amendment,
00:17:07.940 it was violence
00:17:08.740 because how many lives
00:17:09.920 do you want to save,
00:17:10.560 right,
00:17:10.700 gun violence.
00:17:11.340 If it was pro-First Amendment,
00:17:12.340 they were inciting violence.
00:17:13.600 If they were anti-Black Lives Matter,
00:17:14.800 they were pro-police
00:17:15.660 killing black violence.
00:17:16.900 And at the end of this,
00:17:18.320 if they're silent,
00:17:19.680 it's also violence.
00:17:20.880 So when every single one
00:17:22.600 of our positions
00:17:23.500 has been presented
00:17:24.940 as violence
00:17:25.960 that cannot be dealt
00:17:27.300 with democratically,
00:17:28.340 it is a logical conclusion
00:17:30.400 from the mentally ill
00:17:31.560 that we are living
00:17:32.220 and that is a useful tool
00:17:33.460 to the left.
00:17:34.380 And I remember, too,
00:17:35.220 I mean,
00:17:35.760 when you were coming in,
00:17:37.260 I don't want to mislabel you,
00:17:38.160 but more moderate than me,
00:17:39.300 I think that's fair to say,
00:17:40.700 I've been having conversations
00:17:41.460 saying,
00:17:41.780 man,
00:17:41.920 these guys will kill you.
00:17:43.120 You're not their friend anymore.
00:17:44.060 I don't think you understand
00:17:45.040 because I was raised in it.
00:17:46.640 I've known two conservatives
00:17:47.860 my entire life
00:17:48.960 from my childhood,
00:17:49.920 socialist problems.
00:17:50.780 One of them still works
00:17:51.960 for me right now.
00:17:53.320 I then spent time
00:17:54.360 in comedy clubs
00:17:55.160 in Hollywood.
00:17:56.000 I was only surrounded
00:17:57.000 by the left.
00:17:57.640 As a matter of fact,
00:17:58.200 it took me a while
00:17:58.660 to kind of understand
00:17:59.380 the Fox News audience.
00:18:00.400 I was there for four years.
00:18:01.640 I was a conservative.
00:18:02.760 I didn't run in those circles.
00:18:04.120 I know how the left operates.
00:18:05.720 That would have been
00:18:06.260 the only acceptable response.
00:18:07.740 Instead,
00:18:08.660 they said,
00:18:09.580 hey,
00:18:09.860 both sides,
00:18:10.580 that's verifiably untrue.
00:18:11.880 They said,
00:18:12.220 actually,
00:18:12.600 this shooter is a Trump supporter.
00:18:15.320 Remember,
00:18:15.660 we had that DOJ leak.
00:18:18.000 People said I was lying.
00:18:20.260 Right?
00:18:20.380 This is the same thing
00:18:20.900 about the Nashville manifesto,
00:18:22.420 by the way.
00:18:22.720 It was a lie
00:18:23.300 until it was a liability.
00:18:24.840 And then the mayor,
00:18:27.040 the police,
00:18:28.240 and the FBI said
00:18:29.060 they would investigate
00:18:29.660 and sue me.
00:18:30.840 By the way,
00:18:31.800 that's one of the few instances
00:18:33.380 of political violence
00:18:34.580 on the left.
00:18:35.380 And Cato put a note
00:18:36.480 saying,
00:18:36.980 just note,
00:18:37.900 we did include
00:18:38.580 Covenant High School
00:18:39.600 even though it's considered
00:18:41.120 borderline
00:18:41.780 because the PD said
00:18:42.920 it's not ideologically motivated.
00:18:45.400 We were right.
00:18:46.260 And one thing,
00:18:47.220 just one thing.
00:18:48.020 When we released that,
00:18:49.200 that,
00:18:49.480 well,
00:18:50.120 two points here.
00:18:50.760 The reason we got that leak
00:18:52.040 from an inside source,
00:18:53.420 right,
00:18:53.780 the,
00:18:54.400 whenever it was,
00:18:54.940 within 24 hours
00:18:55.520 of the shooting,
00:18:56.300 because someone
00:18:56.940 at that department
00:18:57.940 was concerned
00:18:58.700 that it would be buried
00:18:59.640 because he had seen
00:19:01.060 things like this
00:19:01.680 buried before.
00:19:02.560 Here's the most important part.
00:19:04.700 Bullet engravings,
00:19:06.000 antifa sayings,
00:19:07.140 trans furry stuff,
00:19:09.040 the shooter's still out there.
00:19:10.440 And so's Charlie Kirk's family.
00:19:12.720 So's the Kirk family.
00:19:13.860 So are you.
00:19:14.860 So are,
00:19:15.560 so are my entire team.
00:19:17.200 And we're on the menu.
00:19:18.360 And the left was more concerned
00:19:20.240 with tar and tarring and feathering
00:19:22.360 my name,
00:19:23.700 your name,
00:19:24.240 than keeping people safe.
00:19:25.880 They lied.
00:19:26.700 And then they tried to blame it
00:19:28.480 on the people
00:19:29.500 who are the victim
00:19:30.300 of the violence.
00:19:31.460 They'll never get this right.
00:19:32.860 Ever.
00:19:34.000 Ever.
00:19:34.600 We are not going to hold hands.
00:19:36.620 We are not,
00:19:36.980 I am,
00:19:37.260 I am not going to unify
00:19:38.920 with the left
00:19:40.140 or the spineless right.
00:19:41.240 I do not count them
00:19:42.200 amongst us anymore.
00:19:43.040 And I think we need
00:19:43.960 a change in approach.
00:19:44.860 I speak for myself.
00:19:46.280 So there's the obvious,
00:19:47.500 the obvious question of
00:19:48.700 where that path leads us.
00:19:51.920 And I'm going to,
00:19:53.260 I'm going to say it like this
00:19:54.140 because everybody
00:19:54.540 who watches me knows
00:19:55.300 that we talk about
00:19:56.180 civil war periodically,
00:19:57.260 but more frequently
00:19:58.220 than others.
00:19:58.960 I certainly get the memes,
00:20:00.640 but we don't talk about it
00:20:01.620 that much,
00:20:02.260 but it does come up
00:20:02.760 quite a bit.
00:20:03.560 Yeah.
00:20:03.920 And I'm,
00:20:05.720 I'm taking credit
00:20:07.140 for my predictions
00:20:07.800 being correct in many ways,
00:20:09.100 though we haven't reached
00:20:10.240 the full fruition.
00:20:10.860 And the example
00:20:11.660 that I've given is
00:20:12.340 in September of 2020,
00:20:15.000 I said on this show
00:20:16.300 and on Tim Kest IRL,
00:20:17.500 that if Trump loses
00:20:18.800 in November,
00:20:19.420 his supporters,
00:20:20.240 they're going to go to DC,
00:20:21.200 they're going to storm
00:20:21.700 into the White House.
00:20:22.420 They will not accept
00:20:23.400 this defeat.
00:20:24.840 November came and went.
00:20:26.400 I was called paranoid,
00:20:27.520 crazy,
00:20:28.600 rage baiter,
00:20:29.640 pessimist,
00:20:30.180 blackpilled
00:20:30.620 by some on the right,
00:20:32.760 all of the left.
00:20:33.780 They mocked me.
00:20:35.000 January 6th happened
00:20:36.060 and all of a sudden
00:20:37.460 the liberals narrative changed.
00:20:39.140 It wasn't that I was crazy
00:20:40.580 for suggesting it,
00:20:41.500 even though it wasn't
00:20:42.160 the White House
00:20:42.520 and it wasn't in November.
00:20:43.960 They said Tim Poole
00:20:45.180 had foreknowledge
00:20:46.220 of January 6th
00:20:47.300 and that statement
00:20:48.240 proved it.
00:20:49.760 And so what I have described
00:20:50.840 last year,
00:20:52.460 during the election,
00:20:53.440 before the election,
00:20:54.200 I said,
00:20:54.860 I was debating Sam Seder.
00:20:56.800 I said,
00:20:57.460 do you think Trump's
00:20:59.000 going to use the military
00:20:59.800 for immigration enforcement?
00:21:01.040 And he goes,
00:21:01.400 yes.
00:21:01.760 And I said,
00:21:02.340 and are you going to let him?
00:21:04.200 And his response
00:21:05.160 was wishy-washy,
00:21:06.100 kind of like,
00:21:06.540 well,
00:21:06.700 liberals might actually do it,
00:21:07.920 but maybe not.
00:21:08.860 And I said,
00:21:09.760 my fear is that
00:21:10.800 the president
00:21:11.300 is going to call
00:21:12.040 the National Guard
00:21:12.760 as it pertains
00:21:13.260 to immigration enforcement.
00:21:14.760 There will be a confrontation
00:21:15.820 between state leadership
00:21:16.920 as to who controls
00:21:17.680 the National Guard.
00:21:18.680 It'll go to the courts
00:21:19.640 and there will be a fight
00:21:20.740 over who's actually in charge
00:21:22.000 and this will create a rift.
00:21:23.500 Then,
00:21:24.220 escalation.
00:21:24.960 We are in this period now.
00:21:26.680 They have assassinated
00:21:27.520 Charlie Kirk.
00:21:28.460 The escalation keeps happening
00:21:29.740 and everything that I've stated
00:21:31.280 in some way,
00:21:32.280 it's been relatively vague,
00:21:33.560 but has been manifesting
00:21:35.240 and that terrifies me.
00:21:36.900 So,
00:21:37.600 when we say now,
00:21:38.480 it's not about
00:21:39.820 whether we will
00:21:40.440 or won't unify.
00:21:41.260 The reality is
00:21:41.720 you can't unify.
00:21:43.580 There is no reality
00:21:44.400 where I've already tried
00:21:45.840 talking to some of my friends
00:21:46.740 saying,
00:21:47.160 hey,
00:21:48.140 please don't say this
00:21:49.300 and justify this.
00:21:50.160 They're saying
00:21:50.580 they want to kill me
00:21:51.400 and they're like,
00:21:52.540 we don't care.
00:21:53.080 They're cut off.
00:21:53.900 They're not responding
00:21:54.940 to me anymore.
00:21:56.040 They're posting,
00:21:57.060 there's one individual,
00:21:59.180 some people in Hollywood
00:22:00.140 that I know,
00:22:01.020 actors and actresses
00:22:01.900 who have posted
00:22:02.720 Charlie deserved it,
00:22:03.640 here's why,
00:22:04.320 and then they've posted
00:22:04.940 fake quotes about it.
00:22:06.660 Right.
00:22:06.760 The mainstream liberals
00:22:08.040 are justifying the death.
00:22:10.080 Jimmy Kimmel did it.
00:22:11.720 The rhetoric is not toning down
00:22:13.300 and there are two distinct
00:22:15.720 moral worldviews right now
00:22:17.240 and you cannot convince a liberal
00:22:19.140 that what they have said
00:22:20.160 about Charlie is a lie.
00:22:21.240 They don't care.
00:22:22.660 No.
00:22:23.600 The future seems
00:22:24.560 kind of obvious.
00:22:26.160 One plus one equals two.
00:22:27.340 I'm not sure if you agree or not.
00:22:28.460 Um, I don't, I don't know.
00:22:32.700 I'll tell you this.
00:22:33.340 It's not what I'm advocating.
00:22:34.620 What I'm advocating,
00:22:35.320 hey, is the intermediate step,
00:22:37.700 which is they show up
00:22:39.920 and they do what they've done.
00:22:42.440 They behave the way that they have.
00:22:44.840 You could pay with your life.
00:22:46.640 I want every leftist
00:22:48.560 out there right now
00:22:49.820 to know that this is as close
00:22:51.200 as you ever get to me
00:22:52.420 or my friends as a trophy again.
00:22:54.280 We'll hurt you.
00:22:55.280 We'll kill you.
00:22:56.120 If you show up and you're violent
00:22:57.820 and we have to defend ourselves,
00:22:59.200 we haven't.
00:23:00.240 We will use lawful defense
00:23:01.800 where appropriate
00:23:02.680 and grace has been afforded before.
00:23:04.560 We just showed the clip today.
00:23:05.660 Remember them kicking down
00:23:06.820 the White House?
00:23:07.600 Let me give you,
00:23:08.300 not even a hypothetical,
00:23:09.620 kicking down the White House barricades.
00:23:11.280 Remember they burned down
00:23:11.880 the church across the street?
00:23:13.340 They set it on fire.
00:23:14.240 There were people, yeah,
00:23:15.200 there were people shouting
00:23:15.760 they were going to kill Donald Trump, right?
00:23:17.080 Right?
00:23:17.320 Like Beauty and the Beast.
00:23:18.220 And then they called him Bunker Don.
00:23:20.440 Would anyone be upset
00:23:21.480 if instead of a rubber bullet,
00:23:22.680 one of them caught some real lead?
00:23:23.880 I wouldn't.
00:23:24.360 Because you said you were going
00:23:25.720 to kill the president
00:23:26.460 and you were kicking down barricades.
00:23:28.060 Injuring police officers.
00:23:29.060 We use rubber bullets.
00:23:30.200 That should stop.
00:23:31.540 That should stop
00:23:32.260 if you're saying
00:23:32.680 you're going to kill the president.
00:23:34.260 If someone is going out saying,
00:23:35.580 hey, I am going to firebomb your car
00:23:37.320 and coming up with a Molotov cocktail,
00:23:38.900 guess what?
00:23:39.660 You deal with it appropriately.
00:23:41.140 So I am advocating right now
00:23:42.500 the same reason
00:23:43.520 that we advocate concealed carry.
00:23:45.320 The left needs to fear ramifications.
00:23:47.680 If they behave like us,
00:23:49.060 the left,
00:23:49.440 in other words,
00:23:49.840 if you come to,
00:23:50.700 whether it's a change of mind,
00:23:51.500 a stand-up show,
00:23:52.040 and you behave the way we behave,
00:23:53.860 guess what?
00:23:54.320 You'll be treated the way
00:23:55.060 we are all treated.
00:23:56.260 If you behave the way
00:23:57.800 that conservatives
00:23:58.480 never behave toward the left,
00:24:00.440 which is unlawful,
00:24:01.960 criminal,
00:24:02.860 violent,
00:24:03.540 let's start with this.
00:24:05.080 Let's make it sting.
00:24:06.220 Let's make it hurt.
00:24:07.300 Let's make it known
00:24:08.320 that they don't get off
00:24:09.480 scot-free anymore.
00:24:10.400 And here's the worst part,
00:24:11.780 Tim.
00:24:12.500 They're going to try
00:24:13.280 and equivocate.
00:24:14.000 It only comes from the left.
00:24:15.120 It only comes from the left.
00:24:16.640 I've challenged people,
00:24:17.860 show me one.
00:24:19.280 One Charlie Kirk on the left.
00:24:20.840 Not an elected official.
00:24:22.260 Show me one instance
00:24:23.120 where someone was assassinated
00:24:25.180 as an act of terrorism
00:24:26.560 in front of their family,
00:24:28.840 merely for opinions,
00:24:30.280 and then gleefully celebrated thereafter.
00:24:32.740 You won't find it.
00:24:33.860 They'll try and go to Minnesota.
00:24:35.020 That guy, by the way,
00:24:35.780 wasn't some Trump maniac.
00:24:37.520 He blamed Tim Walz.
00:24:38.440 He was out of his mind.
00:24:39.220 It's the closest thing
00:24:39.840 they can come to,
00:24:40.500 and something Mike Lee
00:24:41.280 said on Twitter.
00:24:42.180 I don't give a shit.
00:24:43.500 I don't give a shit.
00:24:44.780 It's not even close.
00:24:46.120 And now they come out
00:24:46.820 and say,
00:24:47.080 actually,
00:24:47.820 most of the violence
00:24:48.440 comes from the right wing.
00:24:49.400 I can prove to you
00:24:50.140 that's not true.
00:24:50.840 It's fake.
00:24:51.700 It's completely fake.
00:24:53.000 I pull up the ADL heat map
00:24:54.560 all the time
00:24:55.040 because it says
00:24:55.700 white supremacy,
00:24:56.780 anti-government,
00:24:57.580 and, quote,
00:24:58.280 other are all right wing.
00:25:00.260 They have three categories
00:25:01.980 of right wing.
00:25:03.000 That way,
00:25:03.620 they can make a fake list
00:25:04.880 that blames
00:25:05.820 run-of-the-mill conservatives
00:25:07.560 for what some psychotic
00:25:09.720 sovereign citizen does.
00:25:12.440 It's even worse.
00:25:13.420 It's even worse.
00:25:14.320 Can I give you
00:25:14.620 a very specific example?
00:25:15.520 Absolutely.
00:25:15.680 Because I know
00:25:15.960 you'll remember this.
00:25:16.720 I don't know
00:25:16.920 if you can pull up the clip.
00:25:17.580 But, okay,
00:25:19.180 and I'll get through
00:25:20.660 the methodology
00:25:21.240 and why it's all corrupted,
00:25:22.740 but this is all
00:25:23.260 you need to know, folks.
00:25:24.600 Remember that man in Portland?
00:25:26.340 His name was Aaron Danielson.
00:25:27.780 He was shot dead
00:25:28.740 point blank
00:25:29.380 by an Antifa member.
00:25:30.500 The guy's name
00:25:31.040 was Michael Reinhold,
00:25:33.320 I believe.
00:25:33.940 Yep.
00:25:34.120 And he said,
00:25:35.080 we got a Trump supporter.
00:25:36.700 Bang, bang, dead.
00:25:38.540 On camera.
00:25:39.560 Killed him.
00:25:40.300 That was not registered
00:25:41.660 as political violence
00:25:43.180 according to the recent
00:25:44.360 Economist numbers,
00:25:45.380 which, by the way,
00:25:46.020 also have no left-wing
00:25:47.020 political violence
00:25:47.660 the entire summer of 2020.
00:25:49.720 So that's enough.
00:25:50.780 If that is not counted,
00:25:52.720 then all of it is bullshit.
00:25:54.100 Throw it all out.
00:25:54.700 Now, there are other factors
00:25:56.220 that are important.
00:25:56.680 For example,
00:25:57.120 pretty much any white
00:25:58.220 on minority crime
00:25:59.020 is considered to be
00:25:59.940 violence labeled right.
00:26:01.720 Minority versus
00:26:02.460 another minority
00:26:03.340 or minority versus white
00:26:04.380 is not.
00:26:05.300 Any crime against
00:26:06.220 government officials
00:26:06.960 or halls of government
00:26:08.400 is considered
00:26:09.120 right-wing violence,
00:26:09.920 including in some instances
00:26:10.860 where it's members of Antifa
00:26:12.580 committing the crime.
00:26:14.080 But you don't need
00:26:14.740 to know anything else.
00:26:15.860 Trump supporter here,
00:26:17.380 bang, bang,
00:26:18.880 not political violence.
00:26:20.460 Those are the numbers
00:26:21.300 being circulated.
00:26:22.340 Yeah, I made a graph earlier
00:26:23.620 where I took the,
00:26:25.820 it's like 13 major cities
00:26:27.340 and then said,
00:26:29.060 break down all the
00:26:30.080 violent crime incidents
00:26:30.840 in 2023,
00:26:31.840 which is usually
00:26:32.700 the more accurate data
00:26:33.920 by political party control
00:26:36.800 and preference.
00:26:39.280 And guess what?
00:26:40.700 It's 95% Democrat.
00:26:43.120 So when we're actually
00:26:44.140 talking about the risks
00:26:45.280 of political violence,
00:26:47.040 it is not a MAGA Trump supporter
00:26:49.680 going up and shooting people.
00:26:51.540 The best thing they can do
00:26:53.240 is say like
00:26:53.940 a white supremacist prison gang
00:26:55.460 got into a fight
00:26:56.260 and that's right-wing extremism.
00:26:58.480 Yeah, but no one's talking,
00:26:59.460 we're asking the question is
00:27:01.100 Charlie Kirk,
00:27:03.380 does he have anything
00:27:04.000 to do with white supremacy?
00:27:04.840 No, in fact,
00:27:05.340 he advocated against it.
00:27:06.360 So they lie.
00:27:07.640 However,
00:27:08.540 the assassin of Charlie Kirk's
00:27:10.140 worldview was
00:27:10.900 mainstream Democrat.
00:27:13.420 Gender ideology.
00:27:14.880 That was the principal
00:27:15.620 motivating factor
00:27:16.340 according to law enforcement,
00:27:17.300 it appears.
00:27:18.420 And that is,
00:27:19.540 any,
00:27:19.980 you take any Democrat
00:27:21.200 who claims to be a moderate
00:27:22.680 and they will support
00:27:23.900 that ideology.
00:27:25.040 You take a white supremacist murder
00:27:26.760 and you will find
00:27:27.600 every single Republican
00:27:28.900 100% condemning it.
00:27:31.500 Yeah.
00:27:32.020 Well, not to mention
00:27:32.740 that people don't realize
00:27:33.700 this,
00:27:33.900 that neo-Nazis
00:27:34.560 are often still socialists.
00:27:36.260 That's one thing
00:27:36.660 people don't realize.
00:27:37.300 They think they can make
00:27:38.000 all the social programs work
00:27:39.240 if just not for the blacks
00:27:40.260 and browns and Jews.
00:27:41.420 Like, people don't realize
00:27:42.560 they actually supported
00:27:43.540 the socialist part
00:27:45.380 of the Nazi name as well.
00:27:47.300 So anything that is
00:27:48.500 white supremacy,
00:27:49.480 they just label as right-wing.
00:27:50.600 Let me give you some examples
00:27:51.340 of other ones
00:27:51.720 that are not included,
00:27:52.660 by the way.
00:27:53.000 It depends on whether
00:27:53.540 you're using Cato
00:27:54.120 or you're using The Economist.
00:27:56.200 I'll sort of dismiss
00:27:56.980 the NIJ one
00:27:57.800 because it was removed.
00:27:58.760 The left is saying
00:27:59.340 it's removed
00:27:59.700 because it proved their point.
00:28:00.760 But the truth is
00:28:01.220 it was removed
00:28:01.640 because it was commissioned
00:28:02.320 under a Biden administration
00:28:04.260 and clearly was riddled
00:28:05.680 with inaccurate forms
00:28:06.860 of methodology.
00:28:08.500 Not,
00:28:08.840 not considered
00:28:10.140 either terrorism
00:28:11.180 or political violence
00:28:11.980 depending on which one
00:28:12.560 we're using.
00:28:13.260 Not a single one
00:28:14.120 of what the crimes
00:28:15.060 committed in George Floyd's
00:28:16.300 name,
00:28:17.020 you know,
00:28:17.220 where you had over 20 killed,
00:28:18.620 over 2 billion in damages
00:28:20.180 within the first few months.
00:28:21.000 Daryl Brooks,
00:28:21.900 Waukesha,
00:28:22.500 killed 6,
00:28:23.080 injured 70,
00:28:23.620 not included.
00:28:24.700 Again,
00:28:24.980 that Portland shooting,
00:28:26.160 none of these aren't,
00:28:26.940 you have to throw
00:28:28.040 all of it out.
00:28:29.460 It is coming
00:28:30.120 from the left
00:28:30.880 and here's how you know
00:28:32.300 you can believe
00:28:33.140 your lying eyes and ears.
00:28:34.000 That's the empirical.
00:28:34.940 The anecdotal is
00:28:35.600 they're showing up
00:28:37.160 and spitting
00:28:38.060 at the vigils
00:28:39.040 and pantomiming
00:28:40.480 a man dying
00:28:41.360 in front of his children
00:28:42.180 with,
00:28:43.200 it's not just
00:28:43.940 that professors
00:28:44.640 are showing students
00:28:46.660 a snuff film
00:28:47.240 to create a generation
00:28:48.220 of psychopaths,
00:28:48.940 by the way.
00:28:49.300 That's how you
00:28:49.660 desensitize them,
00:28:50.380 right?
00:28:50.680 Yep.
00:28:51.720 It's that the professors
00:28:52.920 have lived
00:28:53.640 in an echo chamber
00:28:55.600 for so long
00:28:57.020 they didn't even
00:28:57.940 see it coming.
00:28:59.080 They didn't even
00:28:59.840 understand that
00:29:00.740 people might go,
00:29:01.340 oh, wait,
00:29:01.780 my teacher said
00:29:02.580 good aim
00:29:03.280 to a man
00:29:03.700 who assassinated
00:29:04.460 a father
00:29:04.840 in front of his children.
00:29:05.920 They didn't,
00:29:06.340 it didn't even
00:29:06.740 cross their mind.
00:29:08.240 That's how consequence-free
00:29:09.780 their lives have been.
00:29:11.260 And now the left
00:29:11.840 tries to do
00:29:12.480 the jujitsu,
00:29:13.400 gaslighting,
00:29:13.940 cancel culture.
00:29:15.420 No,
00:29:16.000 Jimmy Kimmel
00:29:16.440 deserved to be fired.
00:29:17.540 It is not an example
00:29:18.320 of cancel culture
00:29:19.180 and I don't give a shit.
00:29:21.200 I don't care anymore.
00:29:22.700 I want to fight.
00:29:23.740 I hate,
00:29:24.860 I hate the evil
00:29:26.160 that inspires these people.
00:29:27.800 I don't like them.
00:29:28.760 I have plenty of friends.
00:29:29.640 I could use a few enemies.
00:29:31.060 I want to make examples
00:29:33.080 of anyone out there
00:29:34.840 who wants to make
00:29:35.800 an example of us.
00:29:36.680 And here's the thing.
00:29:37.460 Hey,
00:29:38.240 equal footing.
00:29:39.100 I've said this to the left.
00:29:40.660 You treat our violent guys
00:29:42.300 who show up to your
00:29:43.220 change my mind
00:29:44.420 and prove me wrong
00:29:45.020 you treat our guys
00:29:46.240 the same way we treat yours.
00:29:48.300 Bet you,
00:29:48.620 you know,
00:29:48.840 that's not an equitable trade,
00:29:50.000 right?
00:29:50.640 They know exactly why.
00:29:51.660 They know exactly why.
00:29:52.360 What this is,
00:29:53.060 is I guess it's kind of scary
00:29:54.860 to say,
00:29:55.240 but the conversation is over.
00:29:56.920 For the past 10 years,
00:29:58.560 we have seen,
00:29:59.120 or longer,
00:29:59.580 we've seen the far left.
00:30:00.840 I mean,
00:30:01.080 I could say since
00:30:01.760 going back to Occupy,
00:30:03.340 the far left has gone out
00:30:04.600 and been violent
00:30:05.520 and even they use,
00:30:07.400 I would say for a while,
00:30:09.000 low,
00:30:09.420 I call it blunt terrorism.
00:30:11.320 And that is,
00:30:12.180 when an Antifa guy
00:30:12.980 shows up to a peaceful rally
00:30:14.260 and punches someone
00:30:15.040 in the face,
00:30:15.860 it's not national news,
00:30:17.040 no one cares.
00:30:18.100 But it is terror
00:30:19.060 and it does make people
00:30:20.120 think twice about doing
00:30:21.060 these events.
00:30:22.060 They've now crossed the line
00:30:23.280 into a direct assassination
00:30:25.000 of a high-profile
00:30:26.080 political figure
00:30:26.780 and celebrated it.
00:30:28.480 I don't know
00:30:29.420 what argument
00:30:30.080 there is to be had
00:30:31.220 when they're lying
00:30:32.320 about Charlie Kirk,
00:30:33.540 justifying his murder,
00:30:35.120 and defending those
00:30:36.340 who would call for mine,
00:30:37.420 and they have the nerve
00:30:38.440 to say,
00:30:39.040 my God,
00:30:40.200 the fascism,
00:30:41.120 oh no,
00:30:41.760 Jimmy Kimmel got fired,
00:30:43.260 while they previously
00:30:44.360 celebrated Roseanne
00:30:45.540 and Tucker Carlson,
00:30:46.840 and Charlie Kirk
00:30:48.240 was just killed.
00:30:49.000 They're more upset
00:30:50.020 that their comedian
00:30:51.540 with some of the worst ratings
00:30:53.800 in all of media,
00:30:54.700 Jimmy Kimmel was getting
00:30:55.400 200,000 in the key demo,
00:30:57.540 and they're saying,
00:30:58.380 this is the worst thing
00:30:59.460 that's ever happened to us,
00:31:00.500 while Charlie Kirk,
00:31:02.220 his family is still mourning
00:31:04.160 his assassination.
00:31:04.780 I don't even know
00:31:06.440 how to have a conversation
00:31:07.680 with someone like that
00:31:08.600 to explain to them,
00:31:10.340 we may disagree,
00:31:11.540 but let's live together.
00:31:13.020 They've said no,
00:31:14.380 and I don't know
00:31:15.420 where this goes
00:31:16.080 other than escalation,
00:31:17.620 which worries me.
00:31:18.920 It doesn't worry me
00:31:21.060 because we're in it.
00:31:22.760 That's true.
00:31:23.160 We're in it.
00:31:23.400 That's true.
00:31:23.760 And I'd rather know
00:31:24.520 that we're in a fight,
00:31:25.380 and that's why I'm telling people,
00:31:26.760 that's why I'm sounding the alarm,
00:31:27.920 because I know,
00:31:28.860 and you know,
00:31:29.580 because we've been in it.
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00:32:00.320 And Charlie knew,
00:32:01.340 and a lot of the public doesn't.
00:32:02.500 They think,
00:32:03.000 gee golly,
00:32:03.620 it's trolling.
00:32:04.060 And they didn't just answer
00:32:04.980 softly,
00:32:05.820 the left,
00:32:06.240 meaning like,
00:32:06.680 yeah,
00:32:06.960 they kind of tacitly.
00:32:08.300 No,
00:32:08.740 they answered forcefully.
00:32:09.620 Look,
00:32:09.860 let me ask you this.
00:32:10.740 YouGov,
00:32:11.420 bastion of conservatism?
00:32:12.720 Of course not, right?
00:32:13.400 I want you to close your eyes
00:32:14.620 for a second
00:32:15.100 and picture a fascist.
00:32:16.500 Picture a fascist party,
00:32:18.460 a totalitarian,
00:32:19.260 you know,
00:32:19.540 Nazis,
00:32:20.120 or it could be
00:32:20.720 under Stalin,
00:32:21.640 whoever,
00:32:22.020 Pinochet.
00:32:22.520 Let me ask you,
00:32:23.180 are you picturing
00:32:23.840 77% of them
00:32:25.220 saying that political violence
00:32:26.360 is never acceptable?
00:32:27.960 Because only Republicans
00:32:29.080 answered that
00:32:29.640 in this country
00:32:30.200 to YouGov
00:32:30.820 versus 38%
00:32:32.280 of Democrats.
00:32:32.740 That means
00:32:33.500 significantly more
00:32:35.080 than half of Democrats
00:32:36.160 answered either
00:32:37.360 completely acceptable
00:32:38.860 to somewhat acceptable
00:32:40.480 or I don't know.
00:32:41.700 Guess what?
00:32:42.380 I don't want to be friends
00:32:43.280 with,
00:32:43.680 I don't know,
00:32:44.460 you're a piece of shit,
00:32:45.640 I'm going to treat you
00:32:46.320 like a piece of shit,
00:32:47.340 you're not my friend,
00:32:48.500 and you killed one of them.
00:32:50.360 Okay?
00:32:50.900 That's where we are.
00:32:51.960 I'm tired of this bullshit.
00:32:54.680 We have been in a fight
00:32:56.380 and this,
00:32:57.160 gee golly,
00:32:57.960 can't we all get along?
00:32:59.640 No.
00:33:00.020 No, we cannot.
00:33:00.900 These people want you dead
00:33:02.060 and if they can't,
00:33:03.120 they can't take your life,
00:33:04.360 they'll take your name.
00:33:05.400 They tried to take
00:33:06.000 the latter for me.
00:33:06.780 I don't care anymore.
00:33:08.100 I just don't care.
00:33:09.920 It just doesn't matter.
00:33:11.720 We're not going to play
00:33:12.640 the both sides bullshit.
00:33:14.760 And I'll tell you this,
00:33:15.700 yeah,
00:33:15.940 sorry,
00:33:16.340 and I'm not yelling at you
00:33:17.440 just to be clear.
00:33:18.820 It's just fuckery
00:33:21.480 if I can say that
00:33:22.380 on your show.
00:33:23.000 I just like,
00:33:23.600 the fact that we're
00:33:24.620 even having this,
00:33:25.160 no, no, no,
00:33:25.700 you guys answered,
00:33:26.740 the left,
00:33:27.100 you guys answered,
00:33:27.580 political violence
00:33:28.320 is somewhat acceptable.
00:33:29.080 Okay, great.
00:33:29.800 I am saying that
00:33:30.580 lawful violence
00:33:31.480 in response
00:33:32.360 to what you've stated
00:33:33.500 is completely acceptable.
00:33:35.520 That makes me an extremist.
00:33:36.920 Great.
00:33:37.380 They have argued
00:33:38.320 they have the right
00:33:39.460 to self-defense
00:33:40.140 because your words
00:33:40.960 are violence
00:33:41.620 and I think it's fair
00:33:43.140 to say we have a right
00:33:44.080 to defend ourselves
00:33:44.940 when you're assassinating
00:33:46.060 our friends
00:33:46.860 and political leaders
00:33:48.300 or every degree
00:33:50.360 of violence
00:33:50.740 they've engaged in
00:33:51.580 from showing up
00:33:52.860 and beating people
00:33:53.780 to throwing firebombs
00:33:55.240 to giving out
00:33:55.680 Molotov cocktails.
00:33:56.480 We can't live this way
00:33:58.020 and I see all these posts
00:33:59.800 from people on the left
00:34:00.880 being like,
00:34:01.420 don't you care
00:34:01.940 about free speech?
00:34:03.020 And I'm like,
00:34:03.440 bro,
00:34:04.000 you lost the goodwill
00:34:06.180 from us
00:34:06.700 when you took ours
00:34:08.520 several years ago.
00:34:10.040 Your words mean nothing.
00:34:11.980 You've celebrated murder.
00:34:13.700 You've celebrated violence.
00:34:15.600 You've mocked us
00:34:16.560 as we were being attacked.
00:34:17.840 I have no interest
00:34:19.240 in talking to you
00:34:19.940 or even trying
00:34:20.720 to argue at this point.
00:34:21.600 I am just going
00:34:22.640 to mock you
00:34:23.220 for the world
00:34:23.960 you created
00:34:24.500 and try to keep myself,
00:34:26.160 my friends,
00:34:26.600 and my family safe.
00:34:27.900 And I'm going to say
00:34:28.480 this last thing.
00:34:29.600 I don't get threats
00:34:30.360 from Gripers.
00:34:31.340 I don't get threats
00:34:32.120 from a far-right
00:34:33.000 or pro-Israel
00:34:33.820 or anti-Israel.
00:34:35.020 The Jews,
00:34:35.680 the Germans,
00:34:36.420 none of them
00:34:36.860 are threatening me.
00:34:37.700 It is leftists.
00:34:39.680 Every death threat,
00:34:41.060 every close call,
00:34:42.680 every strange incident
00:34:43.820 that we have to deal with,
00:34:45.700 a man in a dress
00:34:46.500 is a great example.
00:34:47.820 It is always someone
00:34:48.780 on the left
00:34:49.180 doing it to us.
00:34:49.920 So if you are going
00:34:50.980 to justify Charlie's death
00:34:52.140 or dance on his grave,
00:34:53.180 I am never,
00:34:54.320 never going to defend
00:34:55.300 anything you have
00:34:56.360 to complain about.
00:34:57.380 But I do want to ask you...
00:34:58.000 Not only that,
00:34:58.520 can I say one thing?
00:34:59.600 Yeah.
00:34:59.820 One thing about Jimmy Kimmel.
00:35:01.660 I really,
00:35:02.660 you know,
00:35:02.960 the comic in me
00:35:03.760 appreciates the art
00:35:04.780 of distillation
00:35:05.400 because the left
00:35:06.420 is trying to go,
00:35:06.920 see,
00:35:07.200 you're the party
00:35:07.660 of cancel culture.
00:35:08.640 First off,
00:35:09.420 shut the fuck up.
00:35:10.600 Second,
00:35:11.280 let me make this
00:35:12.020 really clear, okay?
00:35:12.700 We've always had
00:35:13.200 the bounds of society
00:35:14.600 where we deemed
00:35:15.660 something unacceptable
00:35:16.420 and you were not
00:35:16.980 to live amongst us
00:35:17.800 because it was
00:35:18.300 such a violation
00:35:19.440 of decorum.
00:35:20.620 Cancel culture
00:35:21.220 is a shifting
00:35:22.580 of the Overton window.
00:35:23.720 It's like someone
00:35:24.140 walking backwards
00:35:24.880 laying down landmines.
00:35:25.900 Let me put this
00:35:26.660 in two phrases.
00:35:28.200 1963,
00:35:28.800 JFK is killed.
00:35:29.920 Do you think
00:35:30.400 if that day
00:35:31.080 a professor
00:35:31.860 showed the film
00:35:32.580 to his students
00:35:33.080 and said,
00:35:33.740 yeah,
00:35:34.220 I'm glad that
00:35:35.100 the bits of his brain
00:35:36.080 landed on his bitch's jacket,
00:35:37.340 do you think
00:35:37.580 he would be fired?
00:35:38.300 Of course.
00:35:39.160 Now let me ask you,
00:35:39.880 63,
00:35:40.560 same day,
00:35:41.220 if he said
00:35:41.760 to his classroom,
00:35:42.800 men are biologically
00:35:43.780 different from women,
00:35:44.960 would he be fired?
00:35:45.620 No.
00:35:46.060 There you go.
00:35:46.500 You understand cancel culture.
00:35:47.540 Let's move on.
00:35:48.080 We're adults.
00:35:48.440 It is getting
00:35:50.160 really,
00:35:50.580 really strange.
00:35:51.420 So I'm just curious.
00:35:53.320 I have to,
00:35:54.020 what I had stated
00:35:55.460 to Variety
00:35:55.980 when they interviewed
00:35:56.420 me on this one is,
00:35:57.640 it's not so much
00:35:59.000 that it's an increase
00:36:00.460 in the threats.
00:36:01.000 It is,
00:36:01.360 it's just making
00:36:03.020 more real
00:36:03.880 what we already knew.
00:36:05.280 I was talking
00:36:05.760 to a veteran
00:36:06.780 who had him
00:36:07.340 on the show
00:36:07.600 on IRL
00:36:08.000 and he said,
00:36:10.040 you know,
00:36:10.280 when we were in combat
00:36:11.120 in, say,
00:36:11.480 Afghanistan,
00:36:12.540 you feel the threat
00:36:13.640 when you go out there
00:36:14.760 but after a couple
00:36:15.420 of weeks,
00:36:16.340 you start to become
00:36:17.000 complacent.
00:36:18.140 Maybe you don't look
00:36:18.660 around the corners
00:36:19.200 anymore and that's
00:36:20.420 when the ID goes off
00:36:21.440 or you get shot at
00:36:22.500 and I feel like
00:36:23.740 that's what this
00:36:24.300 is really exposed.
00:36:25.280 So my last question
00:36:26.260 is I'm curious,
00:36:27.500 how has it been
00:36:28.200 for you guys?
00:36:28.860 Have you had any
00:36:29.520 alerts,
00:36:30.480 close calls,
00:36:31.020 an increase in,
00:36:32.020 let's just call it
00:36:33.520 weird instances
00:36:34.340 or threats?
00:36:36.260 Yes.
00:36:36.760 I thought we were
00:36:37.640 going for an hour,
00:36:38.240 right?
00:36:38.540 Or no?
00:36:39.400 We could if you want.
00:36:40.560 Okay, yeah,
00:36:40.980 I'm fine doing it.
00:36:41.640 I just said,
00:36:41.940 I didn't want you to think
00:36:42.540 because I know
00:36:43.060 initially you said
00:36:43.520 30 to an hour,
00:36:44.200 I told him to say
00:36:44.780 I'm good for now
00:36:45.260 but whatever you want,
00:36:45.860 obviously you can boot me.
00:36:47.180 Yeah, you know,
00:36:48.040 here's the thing too.
00:36:49.020 I went through,
00:36:49.740 you know,
00:36:50.920 some very public
00:36:51.940 legal battles
00:36:52.620 and I had,
00:36:53.780 I'll use a term,
00:36:54.560 spineless conservatives
00:36:55.340 dox the house
00:36:56.260 where I and my children
00:36:57.080 sleep to Antifa.
00:36:57.860 I think you kind of
00:36:59.000 covered some of this
00:36:59.600 without getting into detail.
00:37:00.780 So that's been ongoing
00:37:02.460 and it's a,
00:37:03.260 your life is forever changed,
00:37:05.180 right?
00:37:05.400 Everything you do
00:37:06.500 always has to be done
00:37:07.860 very prudently
00:37:08.620 without exception.
00:37:10.360 You have to be perfect
00:37:11.320 because what the left sees,
00:37:12.960 what the world sees,
00:37:13.640 I should say,
00:37:14.100 is what gets through.
00:37:15.620 Guarantee you
00:37:16.360 for what you saw happen,
00:37:18.460 the absolute atrocity,
00:37:21.000 tragedy,
00:37:21.340 the cold-blooded assassination
00:37:22.620 as an act of terrorism
00:37:23.740 against Charlie Kirk
00:37:24.440 was one of dozens
00:37:26.100 that got through.
00:37:26.880 And there's a difference
00:37:28.140 between drama,
00:37:29.260 oh,
00:37:29.560 someone said they want
00:37:30.100 to kill me,
00:37:30.520 okay,
00:37:30.820 get in line.
00:37:31.540 In real ones,
00:37:33.100 you know,
00:37:33.380 I would say that
00:37:33.860 they're still pretty steady.
00:37:35.520 But again,
00:37:36.840 I,
00:37:37.600 I,
00:37:38.200 you know,
00:37:39.000 I'll tell you,
00:37:39.320 this is a personal thing.
00:37:40.580 My,
00:37:40.900 my,
00:37:41.700 my lady,
00:37:42.480 my girlfriend
00:37:42.860 for quite a while now,
00:37:44.040 she's,
00:37:44.520 she's a fiery Latina.
00:37:47.100 She,
00:37:47.520 when she met me,
00:37:48.840 I kind of have a reputation
00:37:50.080 of being a hermit,
00:37:51.000 a little bit of recluse.
00:37:51.780 I'm a homebody,
00:37:52.540 but I was getting a lot
00:37:53.580 of threats at one point.
00:37:54.320 When she met me,
00:37:55.500 I was largely kind of
00:37:57.140 staying at home
00:37:57.740 and being careful.
00:37:58.320 So I would just tell her
00:37:59.200 I had some close calls.
00:38:00.460 On our show,
00:38:01.500 she saw a highlight reel
00:38:02.740 with everything from me
00:38:03.560 getting punched in the face,
00:38:04.840 horse collared,
00:38:06.160 people attempting to firebomb,
00:38:08.160 throwing,
00:38:08.440 all this stuff.
00:38:09.780 And she has been,
00:38:11.420 now to the uninitiated,
00:38:12.720 what someone would view
00:38:13.500 as paranoid.
00:38:14.420 Or she said,
00:38:15.100 I didn't know all,
00:38:16.220 I didn't know how,
00:38:17.200 I only see the positive interactions.
00:38:18.860 You know,
00:38:19.000 it goes somewhere.
00:38:19.860 And I said,
00:38:20.220 yeah,
00:38:20.580 so maybe now you understand
00:38:21.420 why sometimes I'm a little tense.
00:38:23.120 And she,
00:38:23.860 I hate this,
00:38:24.460 but she's getting a taste of it
00:38:25.400 because I wanted to protect her from it.
00:38:26.960 And you can't.
00:38:28.080 That's the real issue too.
00:38:29.280 That's really tough as a man.
00:38:30.400 It's like,
00:38:30.600 you can't protect those
00:38:31.940 around you from these animals.
00:38:33.900 So the closest thing
00:38:34.720 I can think of
00:38:35.580 is a tone shift.
00:38:37.740 I want the left to be scared.
00:38:40.000 I want it to hurt
00:38:41.940 when they try and hurt ours.
00:38:43.880 I'm not even advocating
00:38:44.780 political violence.
00:38:45.660 I'm advocating
00:38:46.460 for the first time
00:38:47.360 conservatives
00:38:47.940 to exercise their right
00:38:49.700 to lawful violence.
00:38:51.000 And we need to see this
00:38:52.400 across the board
00:38:53.500 because the systems,
00:38:54.480 I mean.
00:38:55.160 You're advocating self-defense.
00:38:57.480 Yeah,
00:38:57.900 but we haven't been doing it.
00:38:58.940 I know.
00:38:59.980 I watch these videos
00:39:00.880 where conservatives
00:39:01.760 get punched in that
00:39:02.740 when Andy Ngo
00:39:03.620 was being mercilessly beaten,
00:39:04.700 he didn't fight back.
00:39:06.300 He just kept going
00:39:07.060 as they beat him
00:39:07.620 and beat him.
00:39:08.560 Someone like,
00:39:09.700 the beatings won't stop
00:39:10.840 until you defend yourself.
00:39:12.340 And that is why
00:39:12.880 we are legally allowed
00:39:13.780 to defend ourselves
00:39:14.580 to stop them
00:39:15.360 from injuring us,
00:39:16.780 from hurting us.
00:39:17.920 And I think the sad reality
00:39:20.120 is conservatives
00:39:21.560 just kept turning
00:39:22.120 the other cheek.
00:39:23.400 Yeah.
00:39:23.600 They didn't want
00:39:24.240 the escalation.
00:39:25.800 And you know
00:39:26.660 what's fascinating too
00:39:27.480 is the really great,
00:39:28.780 the horrifying example
00:39:29.740 is the Proud Boys
00:39:31.040 in New York.
00:39:32.180 When the far left
00:39:33.200 was attacking patrons
00:39:34.280 of this speaking event
00:39:35.460 with Gavin McInnes,
00:39:37.160 Proud Boys came out.
00:39:38.740 Antifa was taunting
00:39:39.580 and throwing things.
00:39:40.720 The Proud Boys
00:39:41.420 engaged them.
00:39:43.160 A fight broke out.
00:39:44.000 I'd call that
00:39:44.620 mutual combat,
00:39:45.720 although to be fair,
00:39:46.780 Antifa went to their event
00:39:48.000 and instigated it,
00:39:48.860 but fine,
00:39:49.280 let's call it mutual.
00:39:50.540 When the police showed up,
00:39:52.360 the Proud Boys
00:39:53.000 with smiles on their faces
00:39:54.280 thanked the police
00:39:55.620 and gave all their information over
00:39:56.980 and Antifa said,
00:39:57.900 F the police and ran.
00:39:59.420 And then,
00:40:00.060 with the information
00:40:00.680 on the Proud Boys,
00:40:01.760 the city government said,
00:40:03.300 lock them up
00:40:04.000 and they got four years
00:40:05.040 in prison
00:40:05.500 despite being the ones
00:40:06.900 aggressed upon.
00:40:08.720 Yeah.
00:40:08.980 This is,
00:40:09.500 conservatives have largely
00:40:10.660 been avoiding this
00:40:11.700 because we know
00:40:13.660 that if you try
00:40:15.380 to defend yourself,
00:40:16.040 the law was coming for you.
00:40:17.360 They would lock you up
00:40:18.260 and let Antifa go.
00:40:19.620 Now,
00:40:20.040 Trump is saying
00:40:20.920 Antifa's a terror organization
00:40:22.240 and we're not playing
00:40:23.120 that game anymore
00:40:23.800 and they're crying about it.
00:40:25.480 Absolutely.
00:40:26.100 Let me send this message
00:40:26.940 to everyone out there.
00:40:28.080 Look,
00:40:28.540 Kyle Rittenhouse
00:40:29.260 shouldn't have been treated
00:40:30.340 with anything other than
00:40:31.220 good shooting
00:40:31.940 and a pat in the back
00:40:32.740 from the judge.
00:40:33.200 The guy had already
00:40:34.320 shot at him
00:40:34.840 and was aiming a gut at him
00:40:36.200 and he shot his bicep
00:40:37.680 in a John Wick move.
00:40:39.320 Okay?
00:40:39.700 This is what,
00:40:40.360 you're talking about
00:40:40.860 the Proud Boys
00:40:41.880 right there.
00:40:42.400 Exactly.
00:40:43.120 These people,
00:40:44.320 Daniel Penny,
00:40:45.220 they shouldn't be alone
00:40:46.360 and like you said,
00:40:47.200 the law will be against you
00:40:48.120 but hey,
00:40:48.520 to everyone listening
00:40:49.380 right now,
00:40:49.920 again,
00:40:50.540 lawfully defending yourself,
00:40:52.000 understand this,
00:40:53.300 they can't catch you all,
00:40:55.140 they can't arrest you all,
00:40:56.840 they can't prosecute you all
00:40:58.380 because people
00:40:59.300 have woken up right now.
00:41:00.460 They know the enemy
00:41:01.400 that we are facing,
00:41:02.320 it is within
00:41:02.940 and if they see
00:41:04.480 the selective prosecution,
00:41:06.580 people are going
00:41:07.340 to know.
00:41:08.060 That's what the left
00:41:08.660 has used,
00:41:09.040 right?
00:41:09.180 They falsely claim victim.
00:41:11.540 Conservatives have actually
00:41:12.580 been the victim
00:41:13.520 of institutionalized
00:41:15.340 discrimination.
00:41:16.260 Let me give you an example
00:41:17.060 and I can't take credit
00:41:18.300 for this,
00:41:18.640 the investigative unit here,
00:41:20.120 they're 7-0.
00:41:20.840 The best that's ever done it,
00:41:21.780 the most consequential
00:41:22.500 that's ever done it,
00:41:23.080 I can't even tell you
00:41:23.860 their names
00:41:24.380 because I'm not allowed to.
00:41:26.040 With the Covenant school shooting,
00:41:27.900 right,
00:41:28.120 what happened is
00:41:28.640 we got that manifest
00:41:29.520 and now it's included
00:41:30.320 in the Cato stats.
00:41:31.220 It would not have been.
00:41:32.880 Think about that
00:41:33.640 for a second.
00:41:34.360 We got it,
00:41:35.080 they accused us of lying.
00:41:36.380 They said this isn't legitimate.
00:41:37.500 Then they said it's legitimate
00:41:38.300 but it'll hurt the family
00:41:39.420 and they still maintain
00:41:40.840 there was no ideological motivation.
00:41:43.220 They still protested to Cato.
00:41:45.000 What about the ones
00:41:46.260 that we don't catch?
00:41:48.020 Think about that.
00:41:49.640 The numbers are already,
00:41:50.400 what about the ones
00:41:51.100 that we don't catch?
00:41:52.020 Why is Cato lying?
00:41:53.960 What's that?
00:41:54.660 Why is Cato lying?
00:41:56.280 Well, Cato said
00:41:56.920 they included it.
00:41:57.540 They said we included it
00:41:58.300 but it's Audrey Hill covenant
00:41:59.460 is borderline
00:42:00.440 because I believe they said
00:42:01.440 the...
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00:42:39.880 Police claim that it's not.
00:42:41.180 So we opted to include it
00:42:42.700 but just know it.
00:42:43.620 Well, what about that
00:42:44.400 as borderline?
00:42:45.140 And what about a man
00:42:46.120 being shot point blank
00:42:47.200 because he...
00:42:48.220 How do I know he was murdered?
00:42:49.400 Because we saw him murdered.
00:42:50.860 How do I know he was murdered
00:42:51.820 because he was a Trump supporter?
00:42:53.060 Because the guy who murdered him
00:42:54.260 said it's because
00:42:54.800 he's a Trump supporter
00:42:55.560 and it's not political violence.
00:42:57.560 It's like a nightmare
00:42:58.420 where you're trying to scream
00:42:59.940 and no one can hear you.
00:43:01.800 So stop screaming
00:43:03.000 and start protecting yourself.
00:43:04.720 I think we should include all...
00:43:07.360 You know, in Chicago
00:43:08.040 you've got a lot of violent crime
00:43:10.100 among the young black men.
00:43:12.020 They're the majority of the murders.
00:43:13.300 That's all left
00:43:14.060 as far as I'm concerned.
00:43:14.960 So I'm going to...
00:43:15.860 I'm going to play
00:43:16.820 the same game they do.
00:43:17.780 I'm going to make an institution
00:43:18.980 which is a meaningless term.
00:43:20.560 I'm going to create a non-profit.
00:43:21.660 I'm going to call it
00:43:22.360 an institution.
00:43:23.620 And then I'm going to get
00:43:24.620 some doctors
00:43:25.280 who have like the stupidest
00:43:26.720 doctorate degree
00:43:27.300 so I can have doctor whoever.
00:43:29.040 Then we're going to take
00:43:30.020 every gang shooting
00:43:31.320 and say because liberals
00:43:33.140 released them from prison,
00:43:35.040 this is leftist violence
00:43:36.180 because it's in line
00:43:37.020 with their worldview.
00:43:38.020 And then take a look
00:43:39.080 at what those charts
00:43:39.700 are going to show.
00:43:41.060 There's going to be
00:43:41.660 such a small sliver
00:43:42.780 of right wing
00:43:43.280 we may as well
00:43:43.840 not even include it.
00:43:44.480 In fact, we won't.
00:43:45.100 We'll say the right was so low
00:43:46.740 compared to leftist violence
00:43:47.860 that it was a rounding error
00:43:49.200 we decided not to include.
00:43:50.960 Yeah.
00:43:51.600 You know what?
00:43:51.940 I think that's completely fair.
00:43:52.860 I can tell you exactly why.
00:43:53.820 Let me give you...
00:43:54.340 And I have this written down here.
00:43:55.800 Billy Davis,
00:43:56.700 according to these charts
00:43:57.560 that are circling right now,
00:43:58.760 this is a white woman
00:43:59.740 who stabbed an Asian woman
00:44:00.560 on a bus in 2024,
00:44:01.840 Bloomington, Indiana.
00:44:02.840 Okay?
00:44:03.540 It was listed on the database.
00:44:05.880 The TPP database
00:44:06.840 is what they use.
00:44:07.740 It was listed
00:44:08.480 as right identity focus
00:44:09.700 because she was white.
00:44:10.400 Let's compare that
00:44:10.900 to Brandon Elliott,
00:44:11.720 a black man
00:44:12.380 brutally assaulted
00:44:13.820 an Asian woman
00:44:14.380 in New York City,
00:44:16.300 2021, I believe,
00:44:17.500 was convicted
00:44:18.160 of a hate crime.
00:44:19.640 And it wasn't listed
00:44:20.960 on the TPP database at all.
00:44:22.740 Now, here's the other thing.
00:44:23.460 Because of our justice bureaus,
00:44:25.580 because they've stopped recording
00:44:26.820 interracial crime statistics,
00:44:28.380 right?
00:44:28.500 They changed that,
00:44:29.020 I believe,
00:44:29.220 it was in 2016
00:44:30.440 where it's kind of murky.
00:44:32.080 You have to use isolated studies.
00:44:33.620 Keep in mind
00:44:34.200 that data shows
00:44:35.280 85% of all assault crimes
00:44:38.260 in the San Francisco Bay Area
00:44:40.160 were black on Asian.
00:44:41.580 85% of all assault...
00:44:43.320 Now, it's a small sample size
00:44:44.320 because we can't get it
00:44:45.440 from the DOJ.
00:44:45.780 Just call it leftist.
00:44:46.240 We can't get it from the FBI.
00:44:47.340 Don't...
00:44:47.520 Just call it leftist.
00:44:49.000 Yeah.
00:44:49.360 Well, I mean,
00:44:50.280 because look,
00:44:50.980 the left talks about
00:44:52.480 white supremacy
00:44:53.080 and white privilege.
00:44:55.360 And so,
00:44:56.080 the data shows
00:44:57.780 they have a...
00:44:58.520 White liberals
00:44:59.220 have an out-group preference.
00:45:00.840 So,
00:45:01.700 if then
00:45:02.380 the violence
00:45:03.220 is targeting
00:45:03.820 non-black people,
00:45:05.720 then I think
00:45:06.540 our institution
00:45:07.160 can just refer to that
00:45:07.840 as leftist
00:45:08.280 and we'll make those charts,
00:45:09.500 right?
00:45:10.140 Now, the reality is...
00:45:11.560 Good enough for me.
00:45:12.760 But we've been honest
00:45:13.680 the whole time
00:45:14.260 and this doesn't work
00:45:15.280 on the right.
00:45:15.820 You can't make fake stats
00:45:18.720 to trick the right.
00:45:19.640 They'll just get mad
00:45:20.520 at you for doing it.
00:45:21.640 But liberals fall for it
00:45:23.120 every time
00:45:23.920 when the left does it.
00:45:25.480 No, you're absolutely right.
00:45:26.740 Yeah.
00:45:27.000 And that's also why
00:45:27.740 it's hard sometimes
00:45:28.540 to get the right
00:45:29.520 to sort of coalesce,
00:45:30.420 you know,
00:45:30.700 around each other
00:45:31.680 because they just have
00:45:32.800 a naturally rebellious streak.
00:45:34.740 Just understand
00:45:35.760 the enemy
00:45:36.620 that it is we're facing.
00:45:37.420 They are violent.
00:45:37.980 They want you dead.
00:45:39.440 This is not...
00:45:40.380 This is not a difference
00:45:41.540 of opinion
00:45:41.960 on marginal tax rates.
00:45:43.640 And here's the thing.
00:45:45.080 Charlie Kirk
00:45:45.880 sat down
00:45:47.140 and had conversations
00:45:48.880 with people.
00:45:50.020 And they have conceded
00:45:51.140 the war of ideas
00:45:51.980 to the left
00:45:52.380 because they can't win
00:45:53.720 so they took his life.
00:45:55.080 They took his life anyway.
00:45:56.860 Now, let me ask you this.
00:45:57.820 Anyone watching?
00:45:58.540 Anyone listening?
00:46:00.480 What views do you hold
00:46:01.800 that you think
00:46:02.560 might be to the right
00:46:03.400 of Charlie Kirk?
00:46:04.080 If you vote Republican,
00:46:04.960 there's a good chance
00:46:05.660 a few of them.
00:46:06.580 What do you think
00:46:07.280 they do to you
00:46:08.080 if given the chance?
00:46:09.260 How about this?
00:46:10.440 They say Charlie Kirk
00:46:11.340 is far right.
00:46:12.480 I argue...
00:46:13.280 I argue he's a moderate.
00:46:14.260 You know why?
00:46:15.400 Because publicly,
00:46:17.300 privately,
00:46:18.340 overtly,
00:46:19.160 he said gay people
00:46:20.580 should be welcome
00:46:21.340 in their movement.
00:46:22.740 And he's got viral videos
00:46:24.380 where a young gay conservative
00:46:26.100 is talking to him
00:46:26.740 in the microphone
00:46:27.160 and Charlie says,
00:46:28.500 you don't need to describe
00:46:29.520 yourself as gay.
00:46:30.340 That's not who you are.
00:46:31.500 You're a conservative.
00:46:32.880 I hope that you come to Christ.
00:46:34.280 That's what Charlie Kirk
00:46:35.040 said to him.
00:46:36.180 Imagine 15 years ago
00:46:37.900 that the Republican Party
00:46:39.400 was not there.
00:46:40.400 They're claiming
00:46:41.000 Charlie Kirk is far right.
00:46:41.920 I argue that Charlie Kirk
00:46:43.120 was moderate.
00:46:44.460 And so what does that mean
00:46:45.720 for everybody
00:46:46.340 who actually is
00:46:47.520 staunchly conservative?
00:46:49.700 No, you're exactly right.
00:46:50.980 And I don't want to...
00:46:51.980 I don't think it was
00:46:52.480 necessarily moderate in belief.
00:46:53.720 I think it was moderate
00:46:54.400 in approach.
00:46:55.380 Sure.
00:46:55.480 And so was I for a long time.
00:46:57.220 I really was.
00:46:58.240 I really wanted to show
00:46:58.940 that we could have dialogues.
00:47:00.180 The problem is
00:47:00.960 the left killed people anyway,
00:47:02.700 so I don't care anymore.
00:47:04.100 If they want to know why,
00:47:05.920 they've made me this way.
00:47:07.860 Ruthless,
00:47:08.940 merciless,
00:47:09.980 indifferent,
00:47:11.300 lawful violence.
00:47:12.480 That is what I'm advocating.
00:47:14.160 I make no apologies for it.
00:47:15.960 Anyone who has a problem with it,
00:47:17.360 I'll make the case.
00:47:18.360 And this reaction,
00:47:19.900 this reaction saying,
00:47:21.220 actually more violence
00:47:22.080 comes from the right,
00:47:22.780 it tells you the left
00:47:24.360 is incapable of taking accountability
00:47:25.820 and they are going to continue
00:47:27.060 down this path.
00:47:27.980 More people are going to die
00:47:28.980 unless something changes
00:47:29.640 from our side.
00:47:30.080 It's that simple.
00:47:30.980 The worst thing I think about it is,
00:47:33.200 you know,
00:47:33.400 Mehdi Hassan is a good example.
00:47:34.560 He published a list of
00:47:36.060 out-of-context quotes.
00:47:37.740 He has had many of these liberals
00:47:38.900 because this is the second degree
00:47:40.940 of how they try to defend
00:47:42.420 and justify the murder.
00:47:45.040 What they're doing now is,
00:47:46.060 here's what I think happened.
00:47:47.080 I think when Charlie first
00:47:49.060 was assassinated,
00:47:50.640 liberals were all cheering and dancing.
00:47:52.220 There was one viral video
00:47:54.020 from some random woman.
00:47:55.380 She's not anyone special.
00:47:57.160 And she said,
00:47:58.080 she was laughing and said,
00:47:59.300 the best thing about it is
00:48:00.260 that Charlie was not well-known
00:48:01.560 enough to be a martyr.
00:48:03.060 That's what they thought.
00:48:04.520 And then the Yankees,
00:48:05.780 the Cowboys,
00:48:06.460 all these football teams
00:48:07.560 held a moment of silence
00:48:08.440 for Charlie.
00:48:09.340 In Vegas,
00:48:10.140 on the marquee,
00:48:10.800 they were putting up
00:48:11.400 in memory of Charlie Kirk.
00:48:12.420 The New York Times
00:48:13.040 put it on their menu bar
00:48:14.560 at the top of their website,
00:48:15.880 Charlie Kirk.
00:48:17.000 And I think then liberals realized,
00:48:19.040 oops,
00:48:19.820 this guy was actually
00:48:20.860 extremely popular
00:48:22.020 among regular people
00:48:23.140 for trying to just
00:48:24.560 have a conversation.
00:48:25.760 It was entertaining.
00:48:26.700 It was fun.
00:48:27.580 He made it fun
00:48:28.280 to have these conversations.
00:48:29.620 So they shifted their tactics.
00:48:31.740 Liberals were now
00:48:32.560 feeling scared.
00:48:33.800 Are people now
00:48:34.640 going to be mad at us
00:48:35.640 for cheering for this?
00:48:36.820 Don't worry,
00:48:37.580 says Mehdi Hassan
00:48:38.380 and Occupy Democrats.
00:48:40.240 It was wrong to kill him,
00:48:41.660 but look how evil he was.
00:48:43.780 And then the liberals
00:48:44.620 get to go,
00:48:45.160 well, he was evil,
00:48:46.080 I guess.
00:48:47.000 But those quotes
00:48:47.820 were all lies.
00:48:49.920 The most egregious of which is
00:48:51.120 there's memes going on
00:48:52.980 all over Facebook
00:48:53.580 where it says
00:48:55.060 black women in brackets
00:48:56.700 and then it says
00:48:57.780 dot, dot, dot,
00:48:58.360 don't have the brain
00:48:59.620 processing power
00:49:00.600 to be in these positions.
00:49:02.600 It was about Jackson Lee
00:49:03.280 and Ketanji Brown Jackson
00:49:04.220 who said,
00:49:05.240 I'm a DEI hire.
00:49:05.980 He never said that.
00:49:06.980 Charlie Kirk never said
00:49:08.240 black women.
00:49:08.720 He said,
00:49:09.320 these women
00:49:09.980 who have stated publicly
00:49:11.700 they were hired under DEI
00:49:13.000 didn't have the processing power,
00:49:14.780 the brain processing power,
00:49:15.600 to hold these jobs.
00:49:16.520 He was referring to
00:49:17.800 specific individuals,
00:49:19.260 not whole groups of people,
00:49:20.840 but they lie
00:49:21.500 because they need you.
00:49:23.300 They want,
00:49:23.840 what they want is
00:49:24.640 they want liberals
00:49:25.700 to publicly say,
00:49:27.800 sure,
00:49:27.960 the assassination was wrong,
00:49:29.740 but privately think
00:49:30.960 it was okay.
00:49:32.440 Well, here,
00:49:32.800 let me,
00:49:33.080 here's the thing.
00:49:34.000 They killed Charlie Kirk
00:49:35.540 who was talking specifically
00:49:37.700 about those women
00:49:38.360 who said they were DEI hires,
00:49:39.780 right?
00:49:40.040 Black women.
00:49:40.760 How about,
00:49:41.620 now you deal with
00:49:42.860 the people you've turned into this.
00:49:45.180 Those dumb bitches
00:49:46.360 who happen to be black,
00:49:48.060 Jackson Lee
00:49:48.580 and Ketanji Brown Jackson.
00:49:49.840 Hey,
00:49:50.120 those dumb bitches
00:49:51.140 who happen to be black
00:49:52.080 and tell you they got their job
00:49:52.980 because they're black.
00:49:53.660 I'm just saying dumb bitches.
00:49:55.120 They're saying they got their job
00:49:56.300 because they're black.
00:49:56.960 You draw your own conclusions.
00:49:58.220 I don't care anymore.
00:50:00.660 I don't.
00:50:01.300 And you know what else?
00:50:02.380 When I talk with actual,
00:50:03.480 with black people,
00:50:04.200 and I'm a guy,
00:50:04.780 again,
00:50:05.000 after,
00:50:05.680 you know,
00:50:05.860 we changed,
00:50:06.860 one of the things we changed,
00:50:07.600 changed my mind to talking with people
00:50:08.640 because quite literally,
00:50:09.980 it's harder to set up a shot.
00:50:11.380 So I can walk with people
00:50:12.700 and just talk with people
00:50:13.500 intent.
00:50:13.880 I had to do it out of necessity.
00:50:15.120 Then we did black and white
00:50:15.880 and the gray issues
00:50:16.440 where I go into a barbershop.
00:50:17.840 I talk.
00:50:18.780 I'm surrounded by black men.
00:50:21.200 They are not offended at all.
00:50:22.820 When I go,
00:50:23.240 hey,
00:50:23.620 you know what?
00:50:24.620 Do you understand
00:50:25.120 why we get concerned
00:50:25.900 when we find ourselves
00:50:26.940 at the intersection
00:50:27.480 of ML King Jr. Boulevard
00:50:29.060 and Malcolm X?
00:50:29.660 They go,
00:50:30.100 yeah,
00:50:30.340 we are too.
00:50:31.520 It's the left
00:50:32.520 who wants to perpetuate
00:50:34.640 this offense
00:50:35.260 because that's their currency.
00:50:37.840 It's evil.
00:50:38.920 It's evil.
00:50:39.600 Yeah,
00:50:39.680 he didn't say it,
00:50:40.420 but they're still doing it,
00:50:41.140 right?
00:50:41.560 Did you know, Stephen,
00:50:42.380 that Charlie Kirk said,
00:50:44.100 and I quote,
00:50:45.240 black children
00:50:45.980 are a gift from God.
00:50:48.080 Now,
00:50:48.260 that doesn't sound
00:50:48.980 like a white supremacist to me,
00:50:50.560 but let me caveat that.
00:50:52.040 What actually happened
00:50:53.040 was that Charlie Kirk
00:50:53.920 was at one of his events
00:50:54.840 and a black woman
00:50:55.780 walked up with her young child
00:50:57.400 who's about a year old
00:50:58.120 and she was asking Charlie
00:51:00.480 a question about faith
00:51:01.520 and made a mention
00:51:02.660 of having a child.
00:51:03.860 Charlie smiled and said,
00:51:04.940 this is,
00:51:05.460 you just had a kid recently
00:51:06.520 and said,
00:51:06.800 yes,
00:51:06.980 and he goes,
00:51:07.500 that child is a gift from God.
00:51:09.220 Now,
00:51:09.620 here's the thing.
00:51:11.180 What they do
00:51:11.780 is they apply false context.
00:51:13.920 Did Charlie say
00:51:14.800 all black children
00:51:16.080 in this context
00:51:16.780 are a gift from God?
00:51:17.380 No,
00:51:17.460 he was referring
00:51:17.820 to a single child.
00:51:19.420 The reality is,
00:51:20.180 on the right,
00:51:21.020 if I were to make
00:51:21.760 that fake quote,
00:51:23.060 conservatives would be like,
00:51:24.260 hey,
00:51:24.420 he didn't say that.
00:51:25.840 He was referring to it
00:51:26.980 because we want the truth.
00:51:28.240 We want to know
00:51:28.720 what he was actually conveying,
00:51:29.920 but we know
00:51:30.480 he literally does believe
00:51:32.240 that any child
00:51:33.120 of any background
00:51:33.640 is a gift from God
00:51:34.440 and children are fantastic.
00:51:36.120 Yeah.
00:51:36.280 We,
00:51:36.800 not only do we not
00:51:37.920 make fake quotes
00:51:38.760 to lie and smear people,
00:51:39.640 we can't
00:51:41.240 because people will get mad.
00:51:43.940 You know,
00:51:44.160 every day,
00:51:44.960 I put up a video on YouTube.
00:51:46.200 I try to make sure
00:51:46.760 the title is as accurate,
00:51:49.160 conveying my opinion
00:51:49.940 without distorting it
00:51:50.780 as possible,
00:51:51.460 and I still have people
00:51:52.580 on the right saying,
00:51:53.520 rage bait,
00:51:54.580 you're,
00:51:54.800 oh,
00:51:55.260 you're like,
00:51:55.800 this,
00:51:56.240 you know,
00:51:56.580 we put up a title
00:51:57.500 and like yesterday
00:51:58.500 with Jimmy Kimmel
00:51:59.020 getting fired,
00:51:59.840 and as soon as it goes live,
00:52:01.540 all the comments,
00:52:02.580 you know,
00:52:02.780 there's like three or four comments
00:52:03.660 saying,
00:52:04.080 this better not be clickbait,
00:52:05.400 this better be real,
00:52:06.260 as if I'm lying
00:52:07.540 when I say Jimmy Kimmel
00:52:08.460 was fired
00:52:09.020 because they won't
00:52:10.200 tolerate lies.
00:52:11.360 The left,
00:52:11.940 they revel in it.
00:52:13.620 Yeah,
00:52:13.920 well,
00:52:14.060 that's the one thing
00:52:14.700 they do agree upon.
00:52:15.760 Like,
00:52:16.020 they agree upon lying.
00:52:17.300 Like,
00:52:17.420 this is the method,
00:52:18.080 this is the battle plan,
00:52:19.140 whereas conservatives
00:52:19.660 we can disagree about
00:52:20.320 a whole lot.
00:52:20.700 Like,
00:52:20.800 for example,
00:52:21.560 I don't,
00:52:22.360 I mean,
00:52:22.820 I may disagree with
00:52:23.500 Charlie Kirk's statement
00:52:24.160 on that because the truth
00:52:25.020 is it's a 50-50 shot.
00:52:26.420 You don't know
00:52:26.780 if it's a good baby
00:52:27.480 or not.
00:52:27.940 Good baby,
00:52:28.480 Hitler baby.
00:52:28.860 You could have made
00:52:29.400 the world a worse place
00:52:30.440 for having given birth.
00:52:32.020 Now,
00:52:32.160 see,
00:52:32.260 that's a joke.
00:52:33.040 We can do that.
00:52:33.840 The left would take
00:52:34.600 that out of context.
00:52:36.000 This is,
00:52:36.580 I'm going to treat people
00:52:37.700 like they're both.
00:52:37.940 They're going to do it.
00:52:39.260 You got to treat people
00:52:40.160 like they're both.
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00:53:10.580 Hey,
00:53:10.820 you guys know what I'm saying,
00:53:11.920 right?
00:53:12.160 You guys know cancel culture,
00:53:13.340 right?
00:53:13.500 Difference between brain bits
00:53:14.480 and saying good shot
00:53:15.320 and hey,
00:53:16.000 men and women are a thing.
00:53:17.400 One is something
00:53:18.040 that is deplorable
00:53:19.260 to use their term.
00:53:20.280 One is something
00:53:20.960 that's an ever-changing rule set.
00:53:22.940 Hey,
00:53:23.160 we know the difference
00:53:23.780 between lawful defensive violence
00:53:25.200 that we've sort of abandoned
00:53:26.580 and we've offered grace instead
00:53:27.960 versus civil war.
00:53:29.180 People do.
00:53:30.280 The left wants to take another.
00:53:31.000 I went through this
00:53:31.920 with X this week
00:53:32.840 where it doesn't matter.
00:53:34.220 Did you want to talk
00:53:34.740 about our bingo card
00:53:35.680 if a head of French state
00:53:36.920 was going to be showing
00:53:37.620 her snatch in court
00:53:38.520 because of Candace Owens?
00:53:41.140 What?
00:53:41.580 No,
00:53:42.260 but it is ridiculous.
00:53:43.540 But what I do want to say
00:53:44.340 is on the issue
00:53:45.460 of lawful violence,
00:53:46.320 the idea of self-defense
00:53:48.460 that we will not
00:53:49.600 tolerate this anymore,
00:53:50.560 there is a clear
00:53:51.500 and a distinct
00:53:52.400 bit of information
00:53:53.860 the left needs to understand.
00:53:55.400 For the longest time,
00:53:56.380 we did not think
00:53:58.220 you were actually
00:53:59.100 going to kill us.
00:53:59.880 We thought it was possible.
00:54:01.460 And we thought that
00:54:02.180 when you showed up
00:54:03.080 with rocks or Molotovs,
00:54:04.500 for the most part,
00:54:06.340 the violence was bad,
00:54:07.940 but we could,
00:54:08.640 we could,
00:54:09.300 we try to avoid
00:54:10.580 the fights, right?
00:54:11.740 They say in the fight,
00:54:14.100 any fight you've avoided
00:54:15.160 is a fight you've won.
00:54:16.000 The problem now
00:54:16.900 is they've actually
00:54:18.280 killed Charlie Kirk.
00:54:20.220 And now I have
00:54:22.080 extreme fear of death
00:54:23.480 from the left,
00:54:24.200 not just because
00:54:25.000 of what I witnessed,
00:54:26.440 but because they are
00:54:27.520 posting online
00:54:28.360 a list of names
00:54:29.160 with you and me on them
00:54:30.220 saying we should be next
00:54:31.460 and saying go kill them.
00:54:34.160 I can only make
00:54:35.100 one assumption
00:54:35.780 and I have the legal
00:54:37.280 right to do so.
00:54:38.240 If I fear for my life,
00:54:40.160 I will use whatever power
00:54:42.120 I have to defend myself.
00:54:43.420 If you are going to inflict
00:54:44.960 great bodily harm
00:54:45.880 or death upon me
00:54:46.860 or the people around me,
00:54:48.240 I have a legal right
00:54:49.420 to self-defense
00:54:50.180 and they have made sure
00:54:52.000 with this killing
00:54:52.680 that we all feel
00:54:54.480 that any step they make
00:54:56.900 towards us with violence
00:54:58.240 is a risk of death.
00:55:00.520 And now I don't want
00:55:01.300 anyone to die.
00:55:02.280 I don't want anyone
00:55:02.920 to get hurt.
00:55:03.400 I oppose the death penalty.
00:55:05.000 I want people to live
00:55:07.180 peacefully and comfortably,
00:55:08.540 but I am not going
00:55:09.480 to sit back
00:55:09.980 and let you just shoot me
00:55:11.100 or kill me.
00:55:11.960 So my eyes,
00:55:13.160 I am staying vigilant.
00:55:14.660 I am getting my security guards
00:55:15.780 and I'll keep it real simple.
00:55:17.500 You know what?
00:55:18.020 I'm going to say this,
00:55:19.080 Stephen,
00:55:19.420 I will never,
00:55:21.100 I will never
00:55:22.400 even defend myself.
00:55:24.420 I want you to hear that.
00:55:25.080 You know why?
00:55:25.600 My armed guards
00:55:26.860 with AR-15s
00:55:27.780 will do it for me
00:55:28.540 who are around me
00:55:29.380 and watching to make sure
00:55:30.280 if you try to step forward
00:55:32.040 and risk the life
00:55:32.920 of me and my family,
00:55:33.980 they will use
00:55:34.600 all legal means
00:55:35.520 to stop the threat
00:55:36.380 before you can hurt
00:55:37.140 other people.
00:55:38.420 Yeah.
00:55:38.940 Well, I understand that,
00:55:39.640 for example,
00:55:40.020 when I did,
00:55:40.760 because a lot of the
00:55:41.500 change my minds
00:55:41.880 weren't even on campus.
00:55:42.580 They were just in,
00:55:43.180 you know,
00:55:43.920 public spaces.
00:55:45.200 It's the one time
00:55:46.000 I didn't carry.
00:55:46.560 My security guards
00:55:48.080 were there for the left
00:55:49.740 because what do you think
00:55:51.140 I do to you?
00:55:52.020 What do you think
00:55:52.560 I do to these people
00:55:53.660 if they're not there?
00:55:54.720 If I'm sitting with my family,
00:55:56.000 you've met me.
00:55:57.260 You know,
00:55:57.800 look,
00:55:58.120 it's a hobby.
00:55:58.960 Some people,
00:55:59.660 you know,
00:56:00.040 they dabble in watercolors,
00:56:01.640 oils.
00:56:02.220 Mine is fighting.
00:56:03.180 That's been a hobby of mine
00:56:04.340 for a long time.
00:56:05.500 They're there to protect them
00:56:06.780 because if you steal
00:56:07.640 a homeless man's lunchbox
00:56:08.860 and launch it at my face
00:56:10.340 while claiming you're a woman
00:56:11.800 in a letterman's jacket,
00:56:12.740 it's an actual video.
00:56:13.380 You can go watch it.
00:56:14.440 I would have beaten your ass,
00:56:16.320 but now afforded no grace.
00:56:17.840 I agree with you
00:56:18.260 and I think it's a very noble thought.
00:56:19.400 I disagree with one thing.
00:56:20.880 I don't want everyone
00:56:22.140 to live in peace and comfort
00:56:23.340 unless they deserve it,
00:56:24.780 unless they've earned it.
00:56:26.000 And in this country,
00:56:26.840 for me now,
00:56:27.440 it's you need to earn it.
00:56:28.740 I want them to live in fear
00:56:30.220 and discomfort
00:56:31.500 if they are willing
00:56:32.420 to commit acts of violence
00:56:33.400 because of political differences.
00:56:34.940 I don't want them to have peace.
00:56:36.080 I don't.
00:56:36.900 I really don't.
00:56:38.060 I appreciate you going longer.
00:56:41.020 This has been a lot of fun.
00:56:42.300 So I'll say one last thing.
00:56:43.640 I've got advice
00:56:44.580 for these leftists,
00:56:45.800 for these liberals,
00:56:46.700 and I hope they take it.
00:56:48.580 Hear me.
00:56:49.820 I want you to go
00:56:51.080 to Walmart
00:56:52.220 buy a nice little cheap folding table
00:56:54.480 and some big white poster board
00:56:56.300 and write on it,
00:56:57.420 Trump is a fascist.
00:56:58.580 Change my mind
00:56:59.360 and go sit down at a university
00:57:00.940 and tape it there
00:57:01.560 and have a peaceful conversation.
00:57:03.800 That'll show those conservatives,
00:57:05.620 challenge them to a bait
00:57:06.620 and their ideas,
00:57:07.360 change their minds,
00:57:08.300 and you will win
00:57:09.220 the political debate.
00:57:09.840 But for the most part,
00:57:12.420 they have tried
00:57:12.980 wearing masks,
00:57:14.020 beating people,
00:57:14.820 threatening people.
00:57:15.720 You know what?
00:57:16.360 That doesn't fly.
00:57:18.060 Try the change my mind approach
00:57:19.700 and I,
00:57:20.800 with a smile on my face,
00:57:21.780 will say,
00:57:22.420 appreciate it.
00:57:24.120 Oh, I appreciate it.
00:57:25.100 And you know what?
00:57:25.540 I would tell them,
00:57:26.320 bring security with you,
00:57:27.300 but don't.
00:57:28.180 Bring security,
00:57:28.820 be prudent,
00:57:29.260 but you know you won't need it,
00:57:30.620 leftists,
00:57:30.900 because you never do.
00:57:32.040 I've lived amongst them too.
00:57:33.080 I've also gone and care
00:57:34.340 with the left for,
00:57:35.540 going back to 2012,
00:57:36.760 you might have even run into me
00:57:37.660 and Occupy Wall Street
00:57:38.460 with a hammer and sickle
00:57:39.460 as a communist.
00:57:41.280 And I know,
00:57:42.340 I've lived among them.
00:57:43.440 Like,
00:57:43.620 I have been among them
00:57:44.560 my whole life.
00:57:45.820 And here's the one difference.
00:57:47.460 I agree with you
00:57:48.400 on 99% of what you said.
00:57:49.900 And this is me
00:57:50.620 taking ownership.
00:57:51.740 I always thought
00:57:53.000 it was a matter of time
00:57:54.600 before it came to this
00:57:55.460 and one got through.
00:57:56.480 I knew it was
00:57:57.420 not only a possibility
00:57:58.580 and inevitability,
00:57:59.920 and I screwed up
00:58:01.000 by not making it
00:58:02.640 as clear as possible.
00:58:04.040 I could have sounded
00:58:04.900 the alarm.
00:58:05.500 I told people
00:58:06.200 it was dangerous.
00:58:06.820 I told people
00:58:07.940 that the left
00:58:09.000 obviously is,
00:58:10.180 they're uncaring,
00:58:11.620 they're unempathetic.
00:58:12.800 I didn't shout it enough
00:58:15.340 and I'm trying
00:58:16.260 to make those wrongs right.
00:58:18.100 Everyone out there,
00:58:19.000 know what you are in for.
00:58:20.760 Understand the risks.
00:58:21.780 I don't want to see
00:58:22.680 any more bodies stacked.
00:58:23.900 And I feel that there will be.
00:58:25.080 We knew it was bad,
00:58:26.600 but we didn't want to believe
00:58:27.460 it would get to this point
00:58:28.220 even though we kind of knew.
00:58:29.840 But,
00:58:30.140 Stephen,
00:58:31.000 it's been awesome having you.
00:58:31.980 I really do appreciate you
00:58:33.000 joining me.
00:58:34.100 Where can people find you
00:58:35.000 if they don't already know?
00:58:35.620 Well,
00:58:37.420 again,
00:58:38.000 because I'm persona non grata
00:58:39.240 at YouTube,
00:58:40.040 but Rumble,
00:58:40.560 live stream every day
00:58:41.480 and you're on that lineup too
00:58:42.820 where each show rolls
00:58:43.540 in the next 11 a.m. Eastern
00:58:45.060 every day of the week.
00:58:46.980 And,
00:58:47.200 you know,
00:58:47.720 we're still number one
00:58:49.480 there in our time slot
00:58:50.260 and it's going on a long time.
00:58:51.980 By the way,
00:58:52.640 Rumble being more downloaded
00:58:53.600 than YouTube
00:58:54.020 in the App Store now.
00:58:55.480 That's a real change.
00:58:57.280 Yeah,
00:58:57.440 I really want to see YouTube,
00:58:59.580 I mean,
00:59:00.160 figuratively,
00:59:00.640 by the way,
00:59:00.960 just to be clear
00:59:01.400 because of all this talk of violence,
00:59:02.300 I want to see YouTube die
00:59:03.340 as a platform,
00:59:04.120 but first I want to see it suffer.
00:59:05.240 Right on,
00:59:07.260 man.
00:59:07.420 Well,
00:59:07.700 I appreciate it,
00:59:08.400 man,
00:59:08.540 and I'll talk to you next time.
00:59:10.780 Appreciate it.
00:59:11.320 Stay safe,
00:59:11.740 brother.
00:59:12.020 Take care.
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