The Charlie Kirk Assassination Conspiracy, Israel, Goypers, Or The Left
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Charlie Kirk, a conservative commentator, was shot and killed by a man who was in a relationship with a transgender woman. Who was behind the attack? Was it an act of terrorism? Or was it a political act? On this episode of the podcast, host Alex Blumberg takes a deep dive into the theories surrounding the death of Charlie Kirk.
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Of course, right now, the media is reporting the suspect is in custody.
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The FBI has released an overwhelming amount of evidence.
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And before the dust had even settled, everyone was trying to blame their perceived enemy for
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being responsible for the death of Charlie Kirk.
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Now, there are people on the left who believe they have every reason to claim this guy is
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People on the right say they have every reason to believe this guy was clearly a leftist.
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And of course, there are people who say Israel.
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And they say they have every reason in the world to blame Israel.
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What I can say right now is there does seem to be a simple solution to this.
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A man motivated by online left ideology who was dating a trans person wanted to assassinate
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Charlie Kirk, one of the most prominent conservative voices, who was responsible for the victory
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of Donald Trump, largely, and who speaks out against trans people.
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And it was just after he mentioned trans mass shootings.
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This individual, who was reportedly as a trans lover, shot and killed him.
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But simple solution doesn't always mean correct.
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So what I want to do is I want to go through the theories over what really happened.
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Now, of course, I think it's fair to say that the conservative theory is largely debunked
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But there are many prominent individuals that are bringing up the question of Israeli influence.
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Certainly, in my view and in my sourcing on this story, the information conveyed to me
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by those who work with Charlie, friends of ours from his team and everyone we've talked
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to, is that yet Israel has literally nothing to do with this.
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But there are questions around pressure from donors pertaining to the issue of Israel.
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Now, I will say this first and foremost, because I know people are going to say,
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Charlie Kirk was the biggest proponent of Israel.
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But I'm going to play for me, show you statements from Tucker Carlson, Matt Gaetz,
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Candace Owens, Megyn Kelly even, that make it seem like Charlie had turned on Israel.
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Now, in my conversations with people, I am not in those circles as Tucker, Candace or whatever.
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I did not know Charlie nearly as well as they did.
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But in these conversations that I've had, this is not the case.
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There was no serious animosity between Charlie Kirk and Israeli donors to such an extreme degree.
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In fact, what's been conveyed to me, and by all means, you're free to question whatever
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I am going to show you what Candace and Tucker and Matt Gaetz and others have to say.
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What's conveyed to me is that Charlie, despite his criticisms of Israel, which were not that
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serious, he was actively working on behalf of donors.
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He was actively working towards his own ideology, which was in defense of Israel.
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In fact, you can watch these videos online where he's trying to convince young men to
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I think it's important to take to look at how large organizations are affected by their donors.
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And I want to give you my honest assessment, but I want to show you what these people are
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And I don't think it's fair to call them crazy.
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I certainly do not believe, and again, my personal view, I'm going to bring up Matt
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Walsh's assessment and the current evidence, as well as questions I have over why.
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But there are simple solutions here, and there are questions.
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And I think considering prominent voices like Tucker Carlson, as well as Megyn Kelly and
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Candace Owens, these cannot be outright dismissed.
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So, I say this in all seriousness, and in good faith, please take the opportunity to
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watch this assessment, critically analyze it, and I say this with the utmost respect, please
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try not to get overly emotional over on what you think really happened, and listen to what
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people are saying, whether it's me, anyone else, and then decide for yourself.
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I think that there is more to this story than just a lone actor.
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I believe, as we already know, there are people who had foreign knowledge.
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The question is, was this a radical leftist cell?
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Some have even put out videos showing that the shooter may have been at a different angle.
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And I know that those who have pushed forward these theories will largely disagree with me,
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but I think I can give you a rational assessment.
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Again, feel free to disagree and comment and tell me what you think.
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I think it's silly to outright dismiss prominent voices that have all come out and said something
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While I certainly am critical of what I would describe as Israel derangement syndrome, that
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does not mean that everyone who criticized Israel is wrong.
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And when you have Tucker, Candace, Matt Gaetz, Cernovich, Megyn Kelly, these are not voices
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Not that they are all explicitly stating Israel killed Charlie Kirk.
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First, we'll start with this story from ABC News.
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Foreign disinformation about Charlie Kirk's killing seeks to widen U.S. divisions.
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Russia moved quickly to exploit conservative activist Charlie Kirk's shooting death at Utah
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College, with groups linked to the Kremlin spreading false and misleading claims that experts
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They say Chinese and pro-Iranian groups spread disinformation about the shooting, with those
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loyal to Iran's interest backing anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, while bots linked to
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Beijing claimed Kirk's death shows the U.S. is violent, polarized, and dysfunctional.
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Now, of course, I will wait for the comments to say Tim Pool was paid by Russia.
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Or that because I went to a meeting with Bibi Netanyahu, I am somehow now under the influence
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I will say, full disclosure, let's talk about those things as we preface this story.
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In December, I was informed by my legal team the U.S. government under Biden was no longer
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pursuing this case against the purported Russian influence campaign.
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And just recently, Lauren Chen issued a statement where she explained that in April the case was
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totally dismissed, and they have no evidence of anything, nor have they ever published anything,
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My company and the work that I do has only ever been funded by me, and the work that I
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do through sponsors, members, or otherwise, we have taken no political money.
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The money that came for Tenet was a standard licensing agreement from a Nashville company.
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And I will stress, the DOJ has dropped that case.
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There's no evidence of any wrongdoing or anything nefarious.
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And the meeting I had with Netanyahu earlier this year was basically a meeting with journalists
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and influencers in order to convince us that we need to be on board with their war with
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And I strongly oppose U.S. involvement with Ukraine, Israel, or otherwise.
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Billionaire Bill Ackman convened stormy Israel intervention with Charlie Kirk sources say.
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Well, the story is that Charlie Kirk was turning on Israel.
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He was critical of Netanyahu, critical of the war in Gaza, as many conservatives are.
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And I'm not just talking about people who hate Israel.
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By all means, I can point to people who I think are really Israel obsessed.
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But I think it's fair for anyone to criticize Israel's actions in Gaza.
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And I know there are a lot of pro-Israel people who will justify it and say rather offensive
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In fact, Charlie Kirk himself has a video where he mocks the destruction of Gaza, which is
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why I'm like, you think Israel killed this guy?
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I'm not here to support or defend anyone who believes in or likes Israel.
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Never have I been approached by any Israeli lobbyist types or anything, offered anything
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I was invited, as were many others, to a meeting at Blair House in D.C., where Netanyahu would
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And of course, I took it because I would meet with any world leader, including Donald Trump.
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In this meeting, some people were pro-Israel, some people were not.
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There was a lot of blathering, which was really inane.
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It's supposed to be Chatham House, which means we can say what was said, just not who said it.
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And it's about respect, I guess, so that people can speak kind of off the cuff without
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Largely, the meeting was about why the U.S. should support war with Israel, to which most
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Now, there were some claims about things I had said, arguing that I argued that Qatar was
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I did not assert it, though I do believe foreign interests are propping up anti-Israel content.
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I'm saying there are people who live in Muslim nations who are interested in watching this
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content and commenting on it, and that is anti-Israel.
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The argument they're saying is that Charlie Kirk slowly turning on Israel created a motive
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Now, I'm going to say right away, by all means, there were donors that were likely upset.
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And in fact, when I've reached out to people who work for TPSA, they all say in no way was
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As the donors, the response I typically get is it's being overblown, blown out of proportions,
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and in no way was it murderous or anything negative.
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Despite the fact there were concerns about people like Tucker Carlson appearing at Student
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Action Summit or at Amfest or whatever, they were not threatening his life.
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They were saying, we don't want to provide funding if this is the direction you're going.
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The Grey Zone reports a month before Charlie Kirk's killing, billionaire pro-Israel money
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man Bill Ackman arranged an intervention in the Hamptons during which sources say he and
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others hammered Kirk for the conservative leaders' growing criticism of Israeli influence
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Kirk came away fretting about Israeli blackmail, sources say, as he contemplated a Catholic conversion.
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On September 11th, one day after the assassination of Charlie Kirk, so they're just repeating
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it, Bill Ackman said, I feel incredibly privileged to have spent a day and shared a meal with
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The Grey Zone has spoken to five people with intimate knowledge of Kirk's meeting with
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According to one source, Kirk was left upset after the gathering turned into an intervention
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where he was hammered for his increasingly skeptical views on U.S. special relations with Israel
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and for platforming prominent conservative critics of Israel at his 2PUSA at events.
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Since publishing this report, the Grey Zone has learned from one attendee of the Hamptons
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event that Ackman convened the influencers under the auspices of a discussion about Zoran
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Mamdani and the supposed threat he posed to the West if elected mayor of New York.
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But the meeting went off the rails when Ackman personally confronted Kirk about his views on
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The public face of U.K. lawyers for Israel, Natasha Hausdorff, joined in the argument and
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began screaming at Kirk, according to one attendee.
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When his hosts presented him with a detailed list of every offense he supposedly committed against
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Ackman also allegedly demanded Kirk rescind his invitation for Tucker Carlson to speak
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The whole thing was a disaster, said an attendee.
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Not that I think it's going to happen, and who am I even asked this?
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But the idea that we've been pitching is that we bring back the panel we did with Tucker,
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Luke Rutkowski, Seamus Coughlin, Ian, myself, and leave an empty seat where Charlie was,
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because this was one of the biggest shows we'd ever done, and it was an honor that Tucker
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I'm a fan, and I don't know if they'll be able to pull that off, but that's at least
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the discussion we were having, so I don't know why they would not include him.
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Kirk, according to one person with inside knowledge of the meeting with Ackman, said he left feeling
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In a series of texts with The Grey Zone, Ackman described his accounts of his meeting with
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He pledged to release a public statement providing his own account of the event, but refused
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The Grey Zone's request for clarification or further details.
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He would not accept phone calls from this reporter.
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I think I can easily put this to bed, Ackman promised.
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I have receipts, as they say, and not abide when asked to provide so-called receipts.
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Bill Ackman shares text messages with Charlie Kirk to dispel Candace Owens' claims of Israel
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Now, again, this story is an entirely separate story from whether or not people believe that
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However, it is being connected because they say this is the reason they did it.
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And I think Mossad is willing to do things that you would find to be amoral, evil, or otherwise.
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I don't think they would kill the one guy who was like the most prominent pro-Israel
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Even if Charlie Kirk were after broken away from these donors, I don't see it as a reality.
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Israel had tremendous influence through Turning Point.
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Even if Charlie Kirk was not going to give them everything where he was going to be, we
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are solely pro-Israel, it would be the most ridiculous thing imaginable for Israel to say
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we will lose a massive power platform like this.
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If a prominent leftist asked me to be involved in one of their summits, I'd go do it.
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The chance to speak with all of these leftists is an opportunity, even if it's small.
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I'm thinking about this logically and mathematically.
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You don't stop Charlie Kirk, who is granting you this access.
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New York Post says Bill Ackman on Tuesday night published private texts with Charlie Kirk,
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including an invitation he extended to slain conservative activists.
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Do dinner sometime with the ladies to swat down what he called slanderous claims by Candace
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Owens that he staged a Hampton's intervention to blackmail Kirk over Israel.
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Now, I do believe I have the actual post from Bill Ackman pulled up and I believe is this
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Ackman says, a few facts, correction, and receipts to dispel some misinformation going
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The TPUSA Hamptons event was not held at my house, but rather at a hotel in Bridgehampton.
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As I previously explained, I did cover the cost of the event, i.e. travel, food, and lodging
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This was not a secret event and no one signed an NDA.
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Everyone, including the Turning Point rep who attended, are totally free to share whatever
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they want about what took place and what was discussed.
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If Xi Jinping was having a meeting in D.C. and I got invited to it, I'd be there as well.
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Some have publicly shared their experiences and perspectives on the convening in the spirit
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I encourage any of the other attendees that have not already shared their thoughts in the
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That said, I understand why some may not want to do so.
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I don't believe that this meeting was convened, as some describe it, as a meeting of prominent
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influencers they could bring in to teach to be better at influencing.
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I believe the intention of this event was specifically and explicitly to promote Israel.
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And to speak with influencers about why they should be supporting Israel.
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They've popped up online where he's sitting with young Gen Z guys and he's saying Israel's
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not bad or he's saying don't rag on Jews and things like this.
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I believe it was Charlie Kirk's intent as well as TPUSA and those around him to defend Israel.
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To try and convince young people to defend Israel.
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Charlie Kirk was actively doing this and I believe that's why they convened this event.
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And there are some people that argue more than that, but I think that's fair to say.
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He goes on to say that I've been reluctant to, he says, I'll read a little bit earlier.
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I did not complain to Charlie about Tucker Carlson's criticism of me at TPUSA.
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I did ask him why he thought Tucker attacked me and he told me that he did not know why.
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He told me that he thought my statement in response to Tucker was a great one that can
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I've been reluctant to post private messages, but in an effort to put this whole thing to
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bed, I will share the following brief exchange with Charlie.
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And when reading this text exchange, ask yourself whether Charlie sounds like someone who I
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threatened, blackmailed, or was a subject of an intervention.
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It was great and great to get to know you better.
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Let me know when you'll be in New York City and we will have you over.
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And so he says, lastly, I totally understand the shock and distress to all those who knew
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or followed Charlie Kirk, our feeling after his untimely and tragic death.
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But let's not let those emotions cause us to construct conspiracy theories that can cause
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innocent people, serious, potentially deadly harm.
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He says, yes, dozens of influencers, including myself, were invited to an event by Charlie
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Charlie wanted to get to know rising conservative voices and where we stood on various issues.
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The subject matters were primarily about the following topics.
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Islam's growing presence in the West, marriage and dating, Mamdani, right-wing infighting,
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the economy, and various narratives regarding Israel.
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Charlie wanted to see us respectfully debate him and each other.
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There was a range of views there on every topic.
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He wanted to learn our perspectives and analyze our debating skills from an objective point
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He started each topic with a provocative statement to encourage the creator's debate.
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For example, one of the topics was, if I were to post right now, Bibi Netanyahu needs
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Someone said the post would indirectly empower Hamas, and Charlie responded that statement
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And that if she wants to debate the topic of Israel, she needs to work on using more facts
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I'm not going to pretend to know every thought of Charlie's, but he very much stood with Israel.
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His frustrations expressed during the Hamptons event were that many people debated the topic
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He goes on to mention that when he was contacted by the gray zone, he didn't panic.
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He just didn't want, he didn't know why this person was calling him or how he got their
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We were encouraged to keep using our voices to fight for what we believe.
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Why was I invited to the meeting with Netanyahu?
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I think that the individuals who reached out, who got me invited, did so because they are
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Tim Pool likely should be invited because he's neutral on the issue.
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And so there's an opportunity to sway someone like me.
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I believe this narrative is largely the same, that TPUSA Ackman did convene this for various
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I believe they're likely were trying to talk to these people about what to believe.
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They were trying to talk to them about how to convey what they believe is what I meant
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Likely because they thought they could sway them on the issue of Israel.
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I think it's silly to say that Israel orchestrated it or let it happen.
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I believe that I was invited largely because I'm fairly moderate on the issue.
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I do think Israel is capable of very serious evils and wrongs.
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Like many countries, Mossad is going to do what's in their best interests.
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I think they said invite Tim Pool because we can sway him or at least they would try to.
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I don't in any way hold disdain for those that extended this invite to me.
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I'm just not going to change my opinion by meeting a guy and I'm going to have these
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When I asked Netanyahu explicitly, does he believe or is there any evidence that Qatar
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It was then pushed forward in pro-Israeli media that I had explicitly stated they were
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I believe that there are foreign interests influencing this country from China, Iran,
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I believe that there's many people who live in these countries who watch videos that are
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critical of Israel, which gives larger view counts to people who make videos critical of
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The question I have is how many of these people are in America and how many are not?
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If someone is getting many views because they're getting views from Indonesia or Pakistan or
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But again, I will stress this and I think it's important to understand that the reason these
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people were likely invited is because they thought they could get them to espouse a more
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Evan Kilgore says, before going to an exclusive influencer retreat in Hamptons with Jewish
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Emily Wilson from Emily Saves America, whose honor has been impugned in a private message
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saying, also, do you not think it's weird Israel pays everyone to go over there and
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And then the next message in August 25, Israel isn't committing a genocide, but Muslims
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around the world are, if you guys want to talk about that.
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I know it doesn't go as viral, but if you guys really care, let's talk and go over the
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I'm not saying Emily did anything wrong, and I don't think it's even proof that her opinion
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Just because you're critical of Israel doesn't mean you have no problem saying Israel also
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Like, you can be critical of Israel and still not think it's a genocide, is my point.
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I think there's a lot of people rightfully critical of Israel, and that's fine.
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Ian Carroll, with 11.4 million views, the day after Kirk's assassination said, yesterday
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Less than 24 hours, the internet already figured out who the most likely culprit was.
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He basically dedicated his life to them, and they murdered him in front of his family.
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Listen, to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
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I've been tracking every angle of this story, including the Israel one, and I'm going to
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show you statements from Megyn Kelly, Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens.
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To outright assert overtly, it's a little grifty, Ian.
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Now, Ian also, in the past, had argued that I was trying to buy the Daily Wire.
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But this is a little over the top to make this claim.
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But I'm showing you because it's got 11.4 million views.
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And it's a post from June 20th from Mark Levin, who is very pro-Israel, who said,
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I don't want the U.S. dragged into war with Iran.
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I believe it was bad when Trump launched these strikes, but we got out of it.
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I do not want foreign war, nor do I want the U.S. to be dragged into these wars because
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I do not think Israel rules the world or runs the United States.
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I believe the U.S. absolutely will give in to Israel because the U.S. requires this.
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It is a military bastion for the West and for the liberal economic order in the Middle
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So the U.S. is not controlled by Israel, but certainly has interests in aiding them.
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Chris Benon posted this from Tucker Carlson, which I will play.
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He felt that Bibi Netanyahu was a very destructive force.
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He was above all resentful that he believed Netanyahu was using the United States to prosecute
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his wars for the benefit of his country and that it was shameful and embarrassing and bad
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He wasn't out there with a placard saying that.
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But he certainly expressed that to me and a lot of other people.
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And there's no question that Bibi's defenders on the Internet will call me a liar or a kook.
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And enough text messages exist that I think it can probably be verified in pretty short
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But when Tucker comes out and says Charlie Kirk didn't like Netanyahu and was critical and
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appalled by what's happening in Gaza, I believe it.
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That's a reasonable position for anyone to have.
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Does that extend to Israel then killed Charlie Kirk?
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I have never been threatened by anybody with death or anything for criticizing Israel.
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I have people tweeting at me that because I don't criticize them enough, I must be a
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My view is the U.S. should cut off all funding, separate ties.
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We do not need to be involved in whatever it is they got going on in the Middle East.
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And it's a threat to the United States security when Israel is getting involved in war, say
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So when I get invited to this meeting earlier this year and the argument literally from Netanyahu
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was the U.S. needs to back Israel on this or Iran's coming for you next, the response
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Seriously, I think and I said this in this meeting, Israel has got five to 10 years.
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The right is either Israel critical, anti-Israel or anti-interventionist.
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And that's probably why they're doing what they're doing, Israel, in terms of Gaza, because
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they're about to lose U.S. support and they know it.
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Matt Gaetz responded to another post about Tucker Carlson saying, I have personal knowledge
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as to many of the claims Tucker is making here, and they are 100 percent true.
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And I said, you know, probably not going to talk about that.
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And also Epstein was in the news and it was clear to me that, you know, Epstein is probably
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But Epstein clearly had contact with Israeli intelligence and American intelligence and
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But the only one you're not allowed to talk about is Israeli intelligence.
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I was pausing and I never this never affected me.
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We talk on Timcast IRL, which is one of the biggest live shows.
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I think we had like 90,000 concurrence last night or 100,000.
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And we talk about Epstein and the Mossad all the time.
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Now, in response to what Matt Gaetz said, AFPost says, Tucker Carlson said that Charlie
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Kirk told him at a TPUSA student action summit last July to highlight Epstein's connections
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Distinguishing between Netanyahu and the state of Israel, Carlson claimed that Kirk hated Netanyahu
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So this is from the other video, but I show Matt Gaetz saying it's true.
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This was I should have had that one next to the Ian Carroll one, mind you.
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Megan Kelly also saying she was threatened and intimidated and pressured over Israel and
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She also confirms Charlie experienced the same nefarious pressure.
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Mike Cernovich, I defer to him after what Megan Kelly said.
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Now what going to call her mentally ill to say she's using a death for clout?
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The insinuation that Mossad, Israel killed Charlie Kirk, I think is a bridge too far.
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You are making so many assumptions and I believe it's largely rooted in just general disdain
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I think it probably is correct based on even my independent fact finding that there were
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Jewish donors upset that Charlie Kirk was on hard line for Israel and everything Israel
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But that being said, Charlie Kirk was overtly pro-Israel.
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Now the argument I've heard is that Israel killed him because it opened the door for new
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leadership, which will be substantially more pro-Israel.
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They need only offer him more money or more donors or more lobbying.
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I mean, this is just, if the argument is that Charlie Kirk went to the Hamptons over
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this Israel stuff, it sounds like they were pressuring him to be more pro-Israel.
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But I don't know how you get more pro-Israel than Charlie Kirk, to be completely honest.
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I believe that Charlie Kirk's statements, it's largely a negotiating and sales tactic.
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When you look at some of these videos of Charlie Kirk and the things he said about Palestinians
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or Gaza, it's like, yeah, this dude was pro-Israel.
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So why would Charlie Kirk publicly and to his friends say, I agree with you on Gaza?
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Rapport is the first step in changing someone's mind.
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Charlie had reasonable concerns about Israel because I think any sane person would.
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Charlie was extremely pro-Israel and wanted Israel to succeed.
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Charlie talking with his friends like Tucker or Megan or anyone else is going to say, I
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So for someone to then take that, Charlie recognizing the feelings and concerns of his
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friends and being reasonable on them as to mean that he was turning on Israel is a bit
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My assessment, Charlie Kirk is probably facing a lot of pressure from donors.
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I do believe that there's information and what we know about what's going on with Charlie
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Kirk's assassination that doesn't add up as far as we can tell right now, but it is early.
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It's called Ballistics Don't Lie from Outside the Overton, a small channel with 25,000 subs,
00:33:29.360
but 520,000 views, breaking down theories on what actually happened to Charlie.
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Now I've seen videos of this from other people, and the argument they're making is that the
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building back here to Charlie's back right is the actual origin of the round, and that
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it went through Charlie creating an exit wound.
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Certainly they make their argument, and I'm not a ballistics expert, so I don't know.
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Everybody's offering up something different, and it's confusing and it's hard to know for sure.
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The simple solution to all of this, I will give you my personal probabilistic estimate.
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Charlie Kirk was taken out by leftist radicals who were organized.
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They obfuscated details because it was premeditated.
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For instance, no one in their right mind believes that the messages released by the FBI are one-for-one messages.
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In fact, this is a transcription which they say was the released text messages.
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If you genuinely believe that this is a real conversation, boy, do I have a bridge to sell you.
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The Reddit Lies account, it's a fun account to follow, by the way, shut up, said they actually think it is real because they spend all day reading through weird Reddit autistic screeching, and it does look a lot like this.
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You know, when I read through this, and someone says, remember how I was engraving bullets?
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People don't talk this way, nor would they, I mean, it's a little over the top.
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If it was a direct transcription, all the texts are perfectly punctuated with proper grammar.
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He says, I am leaning very strongly towards the theory that this text exchange was scripted as a way to absolve the boyfriend.
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It's almost exactly what Walter White did at the end of Breaking Bad.
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This feels like a strategy they cooked up from watching too much TV.
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In my view, Washington Post, Kirk shooting suspect had leftist ideology but motive unclear.
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Man 71 told cops he shot Charlie Kirk in order to give the real shooter time to escape.
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Now he's being charged with child sexual abuse material.
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The FBI is investigating a lot more than 20 people in Discord chats with suspected Charlie Kirk assassin.
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FBI investigating social media accounts that appeared to indicate foreknowledge of Kirk assassination.
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Now by all means, I know there are going to be people who say Tim's covering up for Israel or whatever because that's what they want to believe.
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And I'll tell you why I don't believe it was Israel.
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As I already laid out, I think Charlie was the biggest proponent of Israel.
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And they lost one of the most important machines that they had in place.
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Even if Charlie was critical of Israel, man, does this hurt them.
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We have here numerous accounts that look to be trans-aligned following each other in discords that express foreknowledge of Charlie Kirk's assassination.
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One saying, Charles James Kirk, Mr. College Dropout, does not know what's coming tomorrow.
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I can tell you there are a lot of questions about what happened that fateful day.
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Videos purporting to show a bullet coming from another direction, but it's all speculation based on grainy footage.
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But by all means, you're allowed to entertain these ideas and explore and try and discover.
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I don't think that Cash and Dan are being duped.
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They are outright saying we are investigating this.
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What I think right now makes the most sense, though, it's early.
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Many leftists were involved in some degree having foreknowledge.
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Maybe not explicitly or directly helping the shooter, but they knew.
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These seven accounts that posted online, these are the weakest link.
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These are people who are so giddy that they knew it was coming.
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They needed everyone to know that they knew they wanted people to see them as being special and part of the in crowd.
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They want others to know that they have something.
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The FBI is currently investigating more than 20 people in these discords.
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Seven of whatever this group is leaked the information a little bit because they wanted you to see it.
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It sounds to me like there are leftist militants who have been planning the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
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The confusing details are all because premeditated murders often go unsolved.
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And if they did plan this, and it sounds like many people were involved, they certainly, they certainly plan for what comes next.
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The messages, as Matt Wall states, were to create confusion and to absolve the boyfriend of any responsibility.
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Because the boyfriend in the text is going, what?
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Then when the shooter is caught, they say, this is doubt, isn't it?
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So if they were to ever try and convict the boyfriend for any kind of involvement, you could present a jury with reasonable doubt.
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Do you really think they've planted fake messages?
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Remember when I was engraving the bullets and had those memes on them?
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I think it's reasonable to assume the boyfriend was involved, and these messages were crafted intentionally as fake evidence, an orgy of evidence.
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You're familiar with the phrase orgy of evidence?
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It comes from Minority Report, and it's when they find the bed full of all these photos, and he says, no, I don't believe this.
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All of the evidence spattered right there to prove the bad thing was going to happen, we call that an orgy of evidence.
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Typically, when someone commits a crime, they'll panic, they'll try and cover it up a little bit, and you'll find enough evidence.
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So why would I believe these messages just overtly?
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If it is an orgy of evidence, what is the conspiracy?
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The simple solution would be the boyfriend or the roommate was trying—the shooter, the assassin, was trying to cover up for the boyfriend.
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I don't have all the answers, my friends, but what I will say is we've known for the longest time the far left is violent.
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In fact, Tim Kast, the IRL, has had tons of people critical of Israel.
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Not in the capacity of criticizing Israel, but we'd have her again.
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I don't see them as making these amateur mistakes.
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It makes the most sense in my view—and by all means, tell me I'm wrong in the comments—that left-wing groups who we know to be violent, who have plotted the death of me—look, prominent conservatives, I don't want to name them because of their security reasons, but these high-profile people on the right don't have security guards because of Israel or Groypers.
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The people who swatted us, the evidence points to the far left.
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The people who physically attacked me, they were far left.
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The death threats I get every day are from accounts that espouse far-left views.
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There is no Groyper conspiracy masquerading as leftists.
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These leftists go on camera and desecrate memorials.
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There is a plethora of evidence throughout the past several years indicating the far left was capable, willing, and would.
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Charlie didn't have security because he feared Israel.
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Charlie didn't have security because he feared Groypers.
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But I think right now, taking everything into the big picture, it looks like the simplest solution is.
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How can you believe these are direct transcripts of text messages?
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Do you think the FBI fabricated this to get this guy convicted?
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But I think considering the fact that they caught a guy, released him, caught a guy, released him.
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The simpler argument actually is the FBI is having a hard time but doing their best.
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Do you think if they were planning this, they'd just think ahead?
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I can get close to it, but there's a squad car parked.
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And if it is, again, Matt Walsh, I think, hit the nail on the head with the hammer.
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Back to this video that is going massively viral from Ballistics Don't Lie.
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Grainy footage and artifacting make it hard to understand.
00:44:23.920
And everybody thinks they know exactly how someone would react in getting shot in a certain way.
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When the story first broke, the video appeared to show, the first video,
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And reports were that a man in the crowd screamed about trans people and then shot him.
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And from that assessment, many people posted videos purporting to show a hole in his shirt
00:44:55.000
The hole in the shirt there pointed was actually a lav mic, which you can see.
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Some people have shown a photo of Charlie, and you can see a weird line.
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In fact, it is just the sunlight casting a shadow against his necklace.
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And you can see in other photos, he's wearing a, you know, a bead, a metal bead necklace.
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These videos are grainy and hard to break through.
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I'm just saying what we know right now, I have reached out to people.
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And I don't know why we would need to excuse them for any reason.
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Even those that are critical of Israel know the far left does this.
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In this instance, the evidence points to the left.
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