The Culture War - Tim Pool - September 22, 2023


The Culture War #31 - Weaponization & Corruption Of The DOJ with Kyle Seraphin & Garret O'Boyle


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2 hours and 10 minutes

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226.31161

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29,544

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1,744

Misogynist Sentences

25

Hate Speech Sentences

52


Summary

On today's show, we have a special guest on the show to talk about the Ray Epps Scandal and the DOJ's handling of it. We also talk about how the DOJ weaponized the Justice Department and the way they handled the case, and why we should be mad at them for it. We also discuss why the DOJ should be ashamed of themselves and why they should have done what they did, and how they got away with it. Finally, we wrap up the show with an interview with BetMGM's VP of Strategy and Strategy, Ian McCartan, who has been with the company for over 20 years and is a long time friend of the show and host of the podcast, and who also happens to be a good friend of our own. BetmGM and GameSense remind you to play responsibly and not to get involved in anything illegal. If you have questions or concerns about your gambling or someone close to you, please contact Connects Ontario at 1-866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor free of charge. to speak with an advisor FREE of charge, or call in to talk to a professional gambling advisor for free. We love you guys! -BetMGM & GameSense - Call 1-800-388-1919 +1-888-532-2619 to get the best gaming experience in the world. . Bet MGM & Gambling Ontario - Call us at 800-385-9900 and get the most up to date on your favorite casino game and the best in the best place to play in the game you ve ever heard of! and betmGMGMGM & G&C get the latest in the latest casino game & can be your best chance to win the best deal on the highest rated casino game in the entire world! BetGMGMG & G & GAMSING ON THE BEST all-in-the-world! & more! - is a great place to watch the best deals on the best casino game on the market! to play the most authentic gambling in the whole country we ve got the best experience , the best on the of the and the most authentic place the most at the best of the best places in the , the best place and more!


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00:00:57.400 We got Ian hanging out with us today as well.
00:00:59.480 Thanks.
00:00:59.900 Hello.
00:01:00.320 Good to see you guys.
00:01:00.860 Yeah, yeah.
00:01:01.120 Ian is barefoot.
00:01:02.100 I am.
00:01:02.560 Almost every day.
00:01:03.960 Nice.
00:01:04.720 I respect that.
00:01:05.620 I stream barefoot as well.
00:01:06.560 Do you ever ground in the grass?
00:01:08.300 Just let your feet?
00:01:09.080 That's like more of my wife's thing.
00:01:10.380 She's more crunchy than I am.
00:01:11.520 Yes, crunchy.
00:01:12.460 Yeah.
00:01:12.680 I just bought a Berkey.
00:01:13.460 So like, that's pretty crunchy.
00:01:14.860 What's a Berkey?
00:01:16.100 You guys don't know about the Berkeys?
00:01:17.300 No, that's it.
00:01:18.180 So Berkey is kind of like-
00:01:19.500 Oh yeah, silver water filter.
00:01:20.680 The silver water filter.
00:01:21.480 Exactly.
00:01:21.900 Oh, okay.
00:01:22.100 So they've got silver in it.
00:01:23.360 They've got some other pieces.
00:01:24.140 They're these like really high-end,
00:01:25.720 well, they're like the Vitamix of water filters.
00:01:28.740 And every hippy-dippy person I know,
00:01:30.540 everybody that's got a little bit of woo-woo in them
00:01:31.900 has a Berkey.
00:01:33.180 My wife has wanted one for a long-
00:01:34.320 You know what I'm talking about.
00:01:34.840 Yeah, right.
00:01:35.500 My wife has been wanting one for a really long time.
00:01:37.160 I just found out that the EPA outlawed them
00:01:38.860 and claimed that they're a pesticide.
00:01:40.280 Yeah.
00:01:40.380 They've been in business for 25 years.
00:01:42.520 This is going to get legislated.
00:01:44.720 There's going to be a lot of legal battles about that
00:01:46.720 because that's insane.
00:01:47.720 It's 25 years in business in the United States.
00:01:49.820 They filter up to 6,000 gallons per filter set,
00:01:53.080 which is awesome.
00:01:54.100 They filter out everything.
00:01:55.100 But because they said they can get out bacteria,
00:01:57.180 which they can,
00:01:58.700 they are now falling under the EPA's things
00:02:01.120 in the same way that carbon dioxide
00:02:02.400 fell underneath their purview
00:02:03.780 because it's a waste gas.
00:02:05.260 So let's talk about the DOJ.
00:02:06.920 Let's talk about the EPA.
00:02:08.260 Right?
00:02:08.680 So-
00:02:09.240 They're all weaponized, it turns out.
00:02:10.900 Yeah.
00:02:11.340 And I think Matt Gaetz
00:02:13.360 and a handful of Republicans
00:02:16.100 are doing a pretty good job
00:02:17.620 as it pertains to calling this out.
00:02:19.660 We had a really great video from Thomas Massey
00:02:21.320 who was questioning Merrick Garland,
00:02:24.260 who, it's just, it's absolutely ridiculous.
00:02:26.740 They lie all the time.
00:02:28.980 And they lied about spying on American citizens.
00:02:31.440 So let me just,
00:02:32.400 I'll just preface it with,
00:02:35.940 like I said in the intro,
00:02:37.820 Enrique Tarrio gets 22 years.
00:02:40.140 Wasn't even there on January 6th.
00:02:41.880 Ray Epps tells people to do it.
00:02:44.540 He gets, he's getting a single misdemeanor.
00:02:46.260 Claims via text message that he coordinated it.
00:02:48.020 He orchestrated it.
00:02:49.520 And so you have Enrique Tarrio,
00:02:51.500 who the only thing they have
00:02:53.160 is that he posted on,
00:02:54.100 I think Parler,
00:02:55.020 don't effing leave.
00:02:56.660 Whereas you have Ray Epps telling people to do it,
00:02:58.500 but they claim Enrique is the one
00:02:59.560 who actually orchestrated
00:03:00.560 and conspired against the US government.
00:03:02.180 It sounds like it is abject corruption.
00:03:05.160 Absolutely.
00:03:05.720 I mean, I think Ray Epps' text message said,
00:03:09.200 I started the whole thing.
00:03:10.720 I, or he said,
00:03:12.080 he texted his nephew,
00:03:12.980 I orchestrated it.
00:03:13.920 So he's saying he did it.
00:03:15.860 It's like a confession.
00:03:17.040 And Enrique Tarrio's saying,
00:03:19.620 no, I'm in a hotel room in Baltimore
00:03:21.480 and he's getting 22 years.
00:03:23.220 I don't know how anybody
00:03:24.300 can look at this objectively
00:03:25.680 and say it's not a weaponized justice system.
00:03:29.000 So before I was an FBI agent,
00:03:30.480 I was a cop.
00:03:31.240 Before that,
00:03:31.900 I was in the army,
00:03:32.760 in the infantry for six years.
00:03:34.200 So, you know,
00:03:35.560 9-11 kind of is what put me on this path.
00:03:37.500 And I always thought,
00:03:40.120 regardless of our shortfalls as a country,
00:03:43.340 I love America
00:03:44.060 and I want to do what I can to help her
00:03:45.840 and to leave it better for my children
00:03:48.580 than it was when I was growing up.
00:03:50.700 Today, I can't say that it is.
00:03:52.440 It's far worse in a lot of ways.
00:03:54.640 And one thing that stands out to me,
00:03:56.080 my old police chief,
00:03:57.540 he used to always say,
00:03:58.180 you don't have to be right,
00:03:59.040 you just have to be reasonable.
00:04:00.420 When you look at something like
00:04:02.020 a 22-year sentence to Enrique Tarrio
00:04:04.840 versus a misdemeanor charge,
00:04:07.120 slap on the wrist
00:04:07.860 to the guy who was claiming
00:04:08.840 that he orchestrated it,
00:04:10.320 there's nothing reasonable
00:04:11.200 about any of that.
00:04:12.520 Yeah.
00:04:13.000 So I guess we'll start
00:04:14.700 with a broad question for you guys.
00:04:17.300 There are a lot of people
00:04:18.300 who have argued to me,
00:04:20.060 a handful of people,
00:04:21.240 usually liberals on the left,
00:04:22.580 that it's bad apples.
00:04:24.980 Even some conservatives have said,
00:04:26.260 we're just talking about
00:04:27.060 the D.C. field office.
00:04:29.120 Like, there's a lot of really great FBI agents,
00:04:30.720 they go after child trafficking.
00:04:32.120 To what degree is the FBI corrupt, right?
00:04:36.420 Is it really just like there's a network
00:04:39.120 of higher-ups who are highly political
00:04:41.400 and a lot of the agents
00:04:42.820 are trying to do good work
00:04:43.780 or is it just everybody's in it
00:04:46.000 for themselves and don't care?
00:04:47.460 There's corruption
00:04:47.960 and they just go on with it.
00:04:48.880 I'm going to tee up Garrett
00:04:49.320 with an answer to this
00:04:50.080 because there's a piece to it,
00:04:51.140 there's a broader piece as well.
00:04:52.240 So let's talk specifically
00:04:53.160 on what you just said.
00:04:54.440 I want people to imagine
00:04:55.600 who's knocking on their door
00:04:57.620 and asking them questions,
00:04:58.960 were you in Washington, D.C.?
00:05:00.000 Who are the people
00:05:00.700 that are doing the arrests
00:05:01.620 of people that attended January 6th
00:05:03.160 that were basically
00:05:04.160 on an unguided tour of the Capitol.
00:05:07.260 Now, there are people
00:05:07.780 that were violent
00:05:08.340 and nobody in the FBI
00:05:09.500 and nobody who was in the FBI
00:05:10.980 should be mad about somebody
00:05:12.120 who punched a cop going to jail.
00:05:13.260 I have no problem with that.
00:05:14.280 Like, send them to jail.
00:05:15.200 You bring a flagpole
00:05:16.100 and you use that as a weapon system,
00:05:17.780 you're a jerk.
00:05:18.640 You shouldn't be hitting cops.
00:05:19.840 There are commensurate punishments,
00:05:21.260 by the way,
00:05:21.620 because I was actually
00:05:22.240 at Trump's inauguration in 2017
00:05:23.600 and I saw what goes on
00:05:25.180 when people committed felonies there.
00:05:26.380 I watched Antifa riot.
00:05:27.640 I saw them,
00:05:28.080 they burned government vehicles then too.
00:05:30.100 I was there on the street
00:05:31.680 watching them smash everything.
00:05:32.740 Yeah, I was undercover doing that.
00:05:35.120 So I was moving around
00:05:36.240 watching that thing happen.
00:05:37.240 I actually arrested a guy
00:05:38.080 for a felony,
00:05:38.680 which was he was,
00:05:39.380 this has come back
00:05:40.760 into my head recently
00:05:41.760 because it's so relevant.
00:05:43.260 He was shining
00:05:43.840 a very large laser pointer.
00:05:45.340 It looked like a freaking lightsaber
00:05:46.460 and he was shining
00:05:47.660 at the Park Police helicopter,
00:05:49.320 which is a felony.
00:05:50.220 You kill people.
00:05:50.820 It's up to cause a crash.
00:05:51.680 Yeah, and he did it
00:05:52.280 probably 50 times during the day.
00:05:53.480 It was in the radio all day long.
00:05:54.700 It was in my earpiece.
00:05:55.340 It's like,
00:05:55.800 hey, we got another laser strike
00:05:56.940 on Eagle One.
00:05:57.720 Eagle One's getting hit with lasers.
00:05:59.000 Green laser, Eagle One.
00:06:00.460 And then after they had burned down
00:06:01.740 that thing on North on K Street
00:06:03.560 and there was that,
00:06:04.800 there was like a vehicle.
00:06:05.860 Yeah, there was a vehicle fire.
00:06:07.020 The limo was massive.
00:06:07.860 Yeah, so that was actually
00:06:08.580 belonging to the Secret Service.
00:06:09.640 That was a Secret Service limo.
00:06:11.360 Really?
00:06:11.840 Oh yeah.
00:06:12.040 It was reported that
00:06:12.980 it was a migrants private limo service.
00:06:15.240 It may have been
00:06:15.720 a migrants private limo service,
00:06:17.000 but it was,
00:06:17.360 or that may have been
00:06:17.940 who the driver was,
00:06:18.800 but apparently it was actually,
00:06:19.760 it was a government vehicle.
00:06:20.840 That's what I was told.
00:06:21.740 So we're up there
00:06:22.360 and they had this like,
00:06:23.280 it was very dystopian by the way,
00:06:24.380 like all these things were burned
00:06:25.500 and there was like a rock band
00:06:26.720 that was playing
00:06:27.240 that was kind of mediocre.
00:06:28.040 And then there were like
00:06:29.580 all these kids screaming
00:06:30.460 into the cops' faces back and forth.
00:06:31.960 And I see this guy
00:06:32.460 shine a laser pointer
00:06:33.120 through the trees.
00:06:34.060 And so you could see
00:06:34.860 all the laser hits
00:06:35.660 going through the trees
00:06:36.700 right into the helicopter.
00:06:38.580 So we followed this guy.
00:06:39.700 We got permission over the radio
00:06:41.500 to actually put him into cuffs.
00:06:42.960 We put him into cuffs.
00:06:44.140 Park police came,
00:06:45.120 transported him
00:06:45.840 and took him away.
00:06:46.700 The charges were dropped
00:06:47.520 like the day later.
00:06:48.460 Wow.
00:06:48.740 And I wrote up the whole thing.
00:06:49.700 So that's one thing that happened.
00:06:51.600 And then on January 6,
00:06:52.700 we saw people that got hunted down
00:06:54.240 two years after the fact
00:06:55.520 by the FBI.
00:06:56.700 Who's going through the door?
00:06:57.660 Is it the higher ups?
00:06:58.960 Is it the people
00:07:00.060 that are on the seventh floor
00:07:00.840 of the Hoover building
00:07:01.460 that are doing these arrests?
00:07:02.620 And the answer, of course, is no.
00:07:04.020 So then you have to look,
00:07:04.860 what is the capacity
00:07:05.600 of your average FBI agent
00:07:07.180 and your average FBI intelligence analyst
00:07:08.920 who's doing these cases
00:07:09.860 to engage in tyrannical,
00:07:12.640 one-sided enforcement?
00:07:13.820 And there's a historical model,
00:07:15.280 which is kind of Garrett's thing.
00:07:17.300 He's brought it to my attention
00:07:18.280 and I just live in there.
00:07:19.300 But I'll let you talk about
00:07:20.140 like Reserve Police Battalion 101.
00:07:21.340 It's a direct, direct example.
00:07:24.660 I want to add real quick to this.
00:07:26.620 The riots on May 29th
00:07:28.420 in Washington, D.C.
00:07:29.320 where they firebombed
00:07:30.160 the White House
00:07:30.700 and St. John's Church.
00:07:31.780 I was outside the church
00:07:32.560 the next day.
00:07:33.460 Yeah, and President Trump's
00:07:36.000 forced into a bunker.
00:07:37.020 I was sitting down
00:07:37.760 at the poker tables,
00:07:38.420 as I often do on the weekends,
00:07:39.240 and some guy recognized me.
00:07:41.120 We were playing.
00:07:41.680 It was a really fun day
00:07:43.080 and he asked me about,
00:07:44.960 you know,
00:07:45.140 where I think this is all going.
00:07:46.860 There was another guy
00:07:47.380 at the table who was a liberal
00:07:48.200 who said,
00:07:48.440 I don't like Trump.
00:07:49.520 He's like,
00:07:49.880 man, I do not like Trump.
00:07:51.040 I won't vote for him,
00:07:51.700 but they should not
00:07:52.860 be doing this legal stuff
00:07:53.820 because it's getting really crazy.
00:07:56.300 The conversation turns to,
00:07:58.140 I said,
00:07:58.780 no one even knows
00:07:59.840 that on May 29th,
00:08:01.220 far left extremists
00:08:02.200 were firebombing
00:08:03.060 the White House
00:08:03.660 and St. John's Church.
00:08:05.280 They were putting
00:08:05.600 Secret Service guys
00:08:06.300 in the hospital.
00:08:06.980 Those guys were catching
00:08:07.540 bricks to the head.
00:08:08.480 70 plus injuries,
00:08:09.800 100 or 100 plus injuries,
00:08:11.160 you know,
00:08:11.660 and nobody even knows about it.
00:08:13.540 And the anti-Trump guy
00:08:15.360 had this like,
00:08:16.300 he immediately darted over
00:08:17.380 and looked at me
00:08:17.840 with his like,
00:08:18.420 what?
00:08:19.260 He didn't know about it.
00:08:20.220 They were people
00:08:21.000 that were hiding
00:08:21.620 in the statues.
00:08:22.760 They have some of these things
00:08:23.420 that are like big chalices
00:08:24.420 that are in Lafayette Park.
00:08:25.980 And I actually found out
00:08:27.180 as I was leaving D.C.
00:08:28.160 because I lived in D.C.
00:08:28.860 for five years,
00:08:29.440 I worked at the Washington
00:08:30.060 Field Office.
00:08:30.880 That was my backyard.
00:08:32.720 Some kid who was doing
00:08:33.780 an inspection on my roof
00:08:35.280 as we sold our house,
00:08:36.340 he was like,
00:08:36.800 oh man,
00:08:37.120 I was at the White House
00:08:37.980 like on that day
00:08:38.680 and I was hiding up
00:08:39.260 in this thing
00:08:39.600 and I thought Secret Service
00:08:40.340 was going to get me
00:08:41.020 and I was like,
00:08:41.880 you're telling this
00:08:42.460 to an FBI agent?
00:08:43.880 Yeah, but he knows.
00:08:44.600 He knows he's good.
00:08:45.280 And there's nothing
00:08:45.700 I could do about it
00:08:46.300 because we are not encouraged
00:08:47.760 to be able to take
00:08:48.280 proactive means.
00:08:49.040 Like that guy admitting
00:08:49.700 that basically he was involved
00:08:50.720 in that riot,
00:08:51.500 it didn't go anywhere.
00:08:52.540 How many charges do we see?
00:08:53.620 So let's throw it to Garrett
00:08:54.820 to elaborate on that question.
00:08:56.680 It seems like,
00:08:58.420 you know,
00:08:58.620 I saw a video of a guy,
00:09:00.760 three FBI agents
00:09:01.640 showed up to his house
00:09:02.180 asking him for information
00:09:03.340 on one of his neighbors
00:09:03.980 and he's like,
00:09:04.800 not happening.
00:09:05.900 Right.
00:09:06.240 And so it does seem
00:09:07.600 that it is the,
00:09:09.640 I guess what would you call it,
00:09:10.400 rank and file,
00:09:10.940 regular old FBI.
00:09:12.300 Yeah, rank and file.
00:09:12.920 Yeah.
00:09:13.020 So Kyle mentioned
00:09:14.400 Police Battalion 101
00:09:15.760 and there's a book
00:09:17.040 called Ordinary Men
00:09:17.840 by a guy named
00:09:18.680 Christopher Browning.
00:09:20.000 And it has stood out to me
00:09:21.920 for a number of years now,
00:09:23.540 but it really,
00:09:25.280 I guess,
00:09:26.120 came to the forefront
00:09:26.720 of my mind
00:09:27.420 when I was in
00:09:28.600 new agents training
00:09:29.400 in Quantico.
00:09:30.240 So every new FBI employee
00:09:32.360 is taken on a field trip
00:09:34.260 to the Holocaust Memorial Museum
00:09:36.380 in Washington, D.C.
00:09:37.820 And it is an extremely
00:09:39.780 powerful experience.
00:09:41.540 And the entire point
00:09:43.240 of that trip,
00:09:44.720 the director of the FBI
00:09:45.740 speaks to your class
00:09:47.160 at the end.
00:09:47.840 The whole point of the trip
00:09:49.100 is don't forget the past
00:09:52.040 so we don't repeat it.
00:09:53.200 It's put on by the ADL
00:09:54.260 for whatever that's worth.
00:09:55.160 What?
00:09:55.600 Just let me know.
00:09:56.900 Yeah.
00:09:57.160 It's actually a good trip.
00:09:58.140 Yeah.
00:09:58.720 I thought it was
00:09:59.860 a great trip,
00:10:01.200 but I don't know
00:10:02.920 if you guys have ever been there,
00:10:03.700 but on the wall,
00:10:04.620 when you walk in,
00:10:05.600 one of the walls,
00:10:06.300 it's a poem
00:10:07.060 from a Lutheran pastor,
00:10:08.640 Martin Niemoller,
00:10:09.400 and it's the one
00:10:09.980 that essentially says,
00:10:11.480 you know,
00:10:11.800 first they came for,
00:10:13.220 you know,
00:10:14.080 the communists
00:10:14.780 and nobody spoke up.
00:10:15.980 And, you know,
00:10:16.340 at the end,
00:10:16.820 then they came for me
00:10:17.540 and nobody was left
00:10:18.760 to speak up.
00:10:19.520 And it's real big on the wall.
00:10:20.980 I remember seeing that.
00:10:22.080 And I remember just thinking
00:10:23.480 in the context
00:10:24.160 of law enforcement.
00:10:26.360 That's it.
00:10:26.960 It's a preeminent example
00:10:28.240 because this ordinary men story,
00:10:31.320 they were butchers
00:10:33.060 and carpenters
00:10:33.760 and they were reserve cops,
00:10:35.300 right?
00:10:36.000 And so they have
00:10:36.840 their ordinary duties
00:10:37.740 and then they get activated
00:10:38.980 because the war
00:10:39.800 is starting to kick off
00:10:40.660 and this particular group
00:10:42.000 gets sent to Poland.
00:10:43.580 And in July of 1942,
00:10:45.200 they get orders
00:10:46.440 to start executing
00:10:47.580 all the Jews in the town.
00:10:49.380 And what do they do?
00:10:50.460 They just do it?
00:10:51.040 They just do it.
00:10:52.120 They got to the point
00:10:53.040 where people
00:10:54.320 who were moving too slowly
00:10:55.540 to get onto the boxcars
00:10:56.640 were getting shot
00:10:57.440 in the back of the head,
00:10:58.160 old people and toddlers
00:10:59.140 because they weren't,
00:10:59.960 and these were regular,
00:11:00.800 these are ordinary men.
00:11:01.740 That's the story.
00:11:02.700 And so the story of tyranny,
00:11:03.900 and this is the thing
00:11:04.420 that I think Garrett and I
00:11:05.040 were so scared about.
00:11:06.100 Garrett and I didn't know
00:11:06.680 each other in the FBI.
00:11:07.400 We never worked together.
00:11:08.700 Okay.
00:11:09.140 There's another guy
00:11:09.740 named Steve Friend
00:11:10.320 who's part of our little
00:11:11.020 kind of collective.
00:11:11.720 We call ourselves
00:11:12.180 the Suspendables.
00:11:12.960 It started off as a joke.
00:11:14.400 The Suspendables started off
00:11:15.440 as a joke
00:11:15.940 because we saw
00:11:16.600 the Sliced Alone movie
00:11:17.660 via Expendables.
00:11:18.620 Right.
00:11:18.920 And we're like,
00:11:19.320 well, we've all been suspended.
00:11:20.340 We can't come back to our job.
00:11:21.300 So we're the Suspendables.
00:11:22.640 And that was an inside joke
00:11:23.900 to ourselves.
00:11:24.600 We wrote a letter
00:11:25.220 to the FBI director,
00:11:26.360 an open letter
00:11:26.940 with 45 questions.
00:11:28.420 Why not?
00:11:32.260 Just kind of an FU number.
00:11:33.720 Yeah.
00:11:33.860 So we write up 45 questions
00:11:35.100 for the FBI director.
00:11:36.040 We put it on Twitter.
00:11:37.000 It ends up going viral.
00:11:38.260 And then the New York Times
00:11:39.500 wrote a piece,
00:11:40.180 a hit piece, really,
00:11:41.500 talking about the Suspendables.
00:11:43.100 And when the paper of record
00:11:44.460 starts talking about
00:11:45.320 your organization
00:11:45.920 like it's a real thing,
00:11:46.840 you're like,
00:11:47.180 I guess we're a real thing.
00:11:48.420 Now we have it.
00:11:49.000 So we got merch.
00:11:50.220 We grabbed the website
00:11:51.500 and went after it.
00:11:52.700 But when you are
00:11:53.780 in that category of people,
00:11:55.300 we didn't know each other.
00:11:56.140 We never worked together.
00:11:56.940 We all just saw
00:11:57.460 the exact same problem.
00:11:58.600 And every single person
00:11:59.640 that's ever come forward
00:12:00.500 that I've talked to
00:12:01.340 that has been in the FBI
00:12:02.720 in the last little bit,
00:12:03.760 they cite the Holocaust trip.
00:12:05.640 The going to that memorial meeting,
00:12:06.940 you can walk through there.
00:12:07.640 You smell the shoes
00:12:08.280 of the people that were killed.
00:12:09.420 They have a room
00:12:10.020 that has something like
00:12:10.700 800,000 shoes.
00:12:12.980 It's just like,
00:12:13.940 it's overwhelming.
00:12:15.280 It's a large room.
00:12:16.340 You walk through
00:12:16.760 the central little corridor.
00:12:18.120 There's glass walls
00:12:19.000 on either side of it.
00:12:19.740 And it's just piles
00:12:20.820 and piles and piles of shoes
00:12:22.060 that they took
00:12:22.840 out of one of the camps.
00:12:24.300 Those are people's lives
00:12:25.520 that were destroyed
00:12:26.540 because government officials
00:12:27.960 didn't say no.
00:12:29.200 They said,
00:12:30.020 OK, my job,
00:12:31.320 my paycheck,
00:12:32.000 my pension.
00:12:32.860 I've got a family.
00:12:33.880 I got a mortgage.
00:12:35.040 I've got health insurance
00:12:36.120 I need to pay.
00:12:36.740 All the things
00:12:37.380 that we're seeing
00:12:37.900 that the current FBI agents
00:12:39.240 are doing,
00:12:40.000 they're showing up
00:12:40.660 on arrest warrants
00:12:41.220 for guys who are like
00:12:42.040 pro-life protesters
00:12:43.280 like Mark Houtt
00:12:44.500 who was in Philadelphia.
00:12:45.900 And basically,
00:12:46.340 some guy said
00:12:46.960 the worst things
00:12:47.920 you can imagine
00:12:48.540 to his eight-year-old son
00:12:49.720 at the time.
00:12:51.060 And Mark Houtt
00:12:51.920 was a football player
00:12:52.620 in college.
00:12:53.040 He's a big dude.
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00:14:19.020 Did I mention
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00:14:20.400 Through the guy
00:14:23.400 on the ground.
00:14:24.440 Like imagine
00:14:24.940 if you're a father
00:14:25.740 and I've got four children
00:14:27.020 and Garrett's got four children.
00:14:28.140 Somebody comes up
00:14:28.740 to my six-year-old
00:14:29.760 and starts putting
00:14:30.300 some like horrific,
00:14:31.660 you know,
00:14:32.300 swear words
00:14:32.900 and some really graphic language
00:14:34.260 that's really awful
00:14:34.900 saying things about their dad.
00:14:36.120 They're probably going to experience
00:14:37.040 some physical violence for me
00:14:38.120 and it may not be
00:14:38.980 that well restrained.
00:14:39.620 I thought Mark
00:14:40.180 was incredibly restrained
00:14:41.080 and the DOJ came
00:14:42.120 even after the local authority
00:14:43.380 said this is just a spat
00:14:44.780 between two guys.
00:14:45.600 One guy had instigating language.
00:14:46.820 The other guy got physically,
00:14:47.920 you know,
00:14:48.060 and he was very restrained.
00:14:48.940 That's the end of it.
00:14:50.120 The FBI came
00:14:50.920 and investigated that
00:14:51.860 and they came after him
00:14:52.620 under the FACE Act
00:14:53.360 which is crazy.
00:14:54.400 It's fully crazy
00:14:55.200 and now we're sentencing people
00:14:56.480 in D.C.
00:14:57.320 That's currently happening
00:14:58.060 right now.
00:14:58.540 We just sentenced
00:14:59.100 a bunch of pro-life protesters
00:15:00.200 that were praying the rosary.
00:15:01.900 I think it was like
00:15:02.620 a 70-year-old woman.
00:15:03.880 Yeah,
00:15:04.100 one was 71,
00:15:04.920 one was 78
00:15:05.580 and there was a guy
00:15:05.980 who was 41.
00:15:06.580 They gave her a decade,
00:15:07.200 I think.
00:15:08.420 Well,
00:15:08.620 I don't know
00:15:09.640 if they've been sentenced yet.
00:15:10.440 I know that they've been convicted.
00:15:11.280 They're facing
00:15:11.780 something like that.
00:15:12.380 They're facing major,
00:15:13.320 major jail time.
00:15:13.560 I think a couple of them
00:15:14.580 did get sentenced.
00:15:15.920 I have to leave,
00:15:16.500 but it's atrocious.
00:15:17.960 Yeah,
00:15:18.260 it's evil.
00:15:19.840 And it's two-tiered.
00:15:21.400 That's the real crazy thing.
00:15:22.620 And then that was,
00:15:23.220 well,
00:15:23.700 because here's the other thing.
00:15:24.580 The FACE Act
00:15:25.120 actually has the fourth clause of it
00:15:26.480 says that it protects
00:15:27.140 the free access to churches.
00:15:28.560 So if you're obstructing access
00:15:29.800 to a church,
00:15:30.780 then you're not allowed,
00:15:32.360 then you have the same violation.
00:15:33.540 That's the same crime.
00:15:34.540 But look at the number of people
00:15:35.460 from Jane's Revenge
00:15:37.200 firebombing pregnancy crisis centers
00:15:39.100 or going after Catholic churches
00:15:40.800 and defacing the tabernacles
00:15:41.920 or stealing any of the relics.
00:15:43.900 That should also have the same thing.
00:15:45.680 If we saw equal justice,
00:15:46.800 people would go,
00:15:47.720 I guess don't screw with churches
00:15:48.840 and don't screw with abortion clinics.
00:15:50.040 That would work out okay.
00:15:51.140 It's three-tiered.
00:15:52.000 You have far leftists
00:15:53.920 who firebomb buildings,
00:15:55.920 no charges.
00:15:56.820 The guy you arrest,
00:15:58.120 laser.
00:15:58.800 So people need to understand
00:15:59.560 about these lasers
00:16:00.120 when you point at a helicopter.
00:16:01.400 They can cause temporary blindness.
00:16:03.200 That means the helicopter crashes.
00:16:04.800 It refracts inside the windshield
00:16:06.440 of the helicopter.
00:16:07.520 And so they can't see
00:16:08.460 where they're going.
00:16:08.920 We're talking about a helicopter
00:16:09.840 that is the only helicopter
00:16:11.060 that's allowed to fly over the crowd
00:16:12.160 on the presidential inauguration.
00:16:13.580 And that's a big deal.
00:16:14.480 They want the crash.
00:16:15.420 They want the news.
00:16:16.540 They want the,
00:16:17.100 they blame the government.
00:16:18.520 So you have-
00:16:18.960 He went to American University,
00:16:19.820 by the way,
00:16:20.180 and was part of one of the Antifa cells there,
00:16:21.580 I'm pretty sure,
00:16:22.080 because that's where all the organizing
00:16:23.020 for disrupt J-20.
00:16:24.380 I know you guys talked about it.
00:16:26.120 You know,
00:16:26.500 we were talking about it as well,
00:16:27.420 but there was a big push
00:16:28.640 to try to stop the inauguration
00:16:30.780 of Donald Trump,
00:16:31.720 which we've already forgotten
00:16:32.920 about that insurrection.
00:16:34.020 So you have this tier
00:16:35.640 where they actively commit crimes
00:16:37.500 and for some reason
00:16:38.100 just get let go.
00:16:39.020 Yep.
00:16:39.240 You then have the middle,
00:16:40.600 middle ground tier
00:16:41.280 where if you are a regular American
00:16:42.620 facing crimes
00:16:44.020 that only the feds can handle,
00:16:45.580 you are ignored completely.
00:16:47.460 They're not going to bother you.
00:16:48.980 They're not going to waste
00:16:49.500 their time on you.
00:16:50.380 They're not going to help you either.
00:16:51.600 These are like white collar.
00:16:52.400 Like imagine if you have a business,
00:16:53.360 let's say you guys got defrauded
00:16:54.440 out of $500,000.
00:16:55.920 They might pick it up.
00:16:57.160 Nope.
00:16:57.360 But if you got,
00:16:58.100 if you got defrauded
00:16:58.660 out of $200,000,
00:16:59.680 I know they wouldn't in this area.
00:17:00.720 I had a circumstance
00:17:01.600 where I was told
00:17:02.560 that a million dollars
00:17:03.560 won't move the needle
00:17:04.140 for the FBI.
00:17:04.860 It depends on the area.
00:17:05.820 There are places
00:17:06.300 where a million dollars won't.
00:17:07.240 So in New Mexico, it might.
00:17:08.260 But in this area,
00:17:08.840 $5 million.
00:17:09.680 So, you know,
00:17:11.060 to keep it vague,
00:17:12.380 I'll keep it as vague as I can.
00:17:14.460 You know,
00:17:14.660 I had an issue
00:17:15.520 which was,
00:17:17.180 I believe,
00:17:19.320 an issue over a million dollars
00:17:20.380 across multiple states.
00:17:22.120 And we were told explicitly
00:17:23.960 it won't move the needle
00:17:24.860 for the FBI.
00:17:25.440 Have a nice day.
00:17:26.280 And I'm like...
00:17:27.060 In the districts
00:17:27.540 you guys are in.
00:17:28.120 That's crazy.
00:17:28.360 That's crazy.
00:17:28.740 But, you know,
00:17:29.200 obviously we're on the ass end tier
00:17:31.040 where they're basically like,
00:17:31.920 we don't want to help you.
00:17:32.680 We want to find a way
00:17:33.320 to lock you up.
00:17:34.280 But then you have
00:17:35.160 the third tier,
00:17:36.340 which is,
00:17:37.420 yeah,
00:17:37.520 they want to lock you up.
00:17:38.800 So they'll come knock
00:17:39.760 on your door
00:17:40.280 and they'll say,
00:17:41.660 we're not here investigating you.
00:17:43.920 Could you tell me
00:17:44.420 what time it is?
00:17:45.180 And you'll be like,
00:17:45.880 I don't know,
00:17:46.100 it's one or something.
00:17:46.760 Aha, you lied to the FBI.
00:17:48.200 It's noon.
00:17:48.740 You're under arrest.
00:17:49.380 Like Michael Flynn.
00:17:50.540 That was a,
00:17:51.160 that's a felony.
00:17:51.680 So Garrett worked
00:17:52.180 on the Joint Terrorism Task Force.
00:17:53.580 He got to see this stuff
00:17:54.320 in Kansas,
00:17:54.740 which is a pretty red area.
00:17:56.360 Yeah.
00:17:56.840 And so you can see
00:17:57.380 who they go after with that.
00:17:58.520 Yeah.
00:17:58.620 Well, the Michael Flynn thing,
00:17:59.720 right?
00:18:00.180 It was like an informal interview.
00:18:01.780 It was a perjury trap.
00:18:02.480 He was hanging out.
00:18:03.620 My understanding is that
00:18:04.660 he,
00:18:05.260 it was not a formal interview
00:18:06.500 where he thought
00:18:07.140 he was being investigated
00:18:08.580 or anything like that.
00:18:09.300 Garrett can comment on this as well.
00:18:10.420 I was trained
00:18:11.200 at the FBI Academy.
00:18:12.440 We never use 18 USC 1001
00:18:14.580 as a standalone charge.
00:18:15.440 It's not a standalone charge.
00:18:16.700 It's a,
00:18:17.100 it's a,
00:18:17.560 it's something you use to add.
00:18:19.400 So we pile it on.
00:18:20.540 It's like,
00:18:20.820 not only did you do this fraud
00:18:22.040 and not only did you do
00:18:22.840 this other terrible thing,
00:18:23.540 but also you lied about it.
00:18:25.000 And now we have
00:18:25.520 an additional felony.
00:18:26.320 And so we can,
00:18:26.980 we have more leverage on you.
00:18:27.820 It's like getting charged
00:18:28.460 with five felonies
00:18:29.140 is better than one.
00:18:29.900 Yeah.
00:18:30.200 If you're going to go
00:18:30.760 and try to push them to a plea.
00:18:31.700 I've gone into interviews
00:18:32.940 when I was an FBI agent
00:18:35.060 and I used that threat
00:18:36.860 of 1001
00:18:37.780 with the person I'm talking to
00:18:39.440 because by the time
00:18:41.280 you get to that point,
00:18:42.060 if you're doing your job correctly,
00:18:44.060 you,
00:18:44.500 you probably already have them
00:18:45.780 on a 1001
00:18:46.600 or you're,
00:18:47.040 you're confident you,
00:18:47.940 you will,
00:18:48.540 because you have done
00:18:50.020 so much due diligence
00:18:51.340 to get to the point
00:18:52.260 where it's like,
00:18:52.660 okay,
00:18:52.860 now I'm going to go interview
00:18:54.040 the subject of this
00:18:55.140 potential crime.
00:18:56.780 And I would lead with that.
00:18:58.280 Like,
00:18:58.540 Hey,
00:18:58.660 you know,
00:18:58.980 if you lie to me,
00:19:00.000 that is an additional charge.
00:19:03.200 And they'd always say,
00:19:03.720 yeah,
00:19:03.860 yeah,
00:19:04.040 I know.
00:19:04.680 What,
00:19:05.040 what,
00:19:05.180 what it's like the,
00:19:05.780 what was the routine for you guys?
00:19:07.060 I mean,
00:19:07.280 obviously when you're in the FBI,
00:19:09.240 it's not like you're hunting down,
00:19:10.980 you know,
00:19:12.300 seditionists or anything
00:19:13.360 or insurrectionists.
00:19:14.540 There's like a,
00:19:15.400 what's like the most common thing
00:19:16.840 you would deal with?
00:19:17.960 Everybody gets assigned
00:19:18.760 to different types of cases.
00:19:20.180 So he was working terrorism.
00:19:21.860 I was working Chinese threat
00:19:22.820 my first two years,
00:19:23.900 which is the worst thing in the world.
00:19:25.040 It's the most boring thing you can do.
00:19:26.760 I did FISA.
00:19:28.120 I basically looked at,
00:19:29.200 you've heard of FISA 702.
00:19:30.600 There's a lot of coverage about this.
00:19:31.520 We can talk about it
00:19:32.100 in maybe long form a little bit,
00:19:33.480 but I read FISA 702 for a living.
00:19:36.420 It's the most horrible thing
00:19:38.060 for an outdoor kind of guy like me
00:19:39.820 to be sitting behind a desk
00:19:41.400 for 10 hours a day
00:19:42.180 and reading Chinese emails.
00:19:44.020 Like I don't speak Chinese,
00:19:45.680 by the way,
00:19:45.920 I don't read Chinese.
00:19:46.740 We finally got this gal to our squad.
00:19:48.240 This is the,
00:19:48.520 this is the brilliance.
00:19:49.100 Everyone thinks that the FBI
00:19:49.980 is like a,
00:19:50.740 you know,
00:19:50.880 like this mastermind diabolical thing.
00:19:52.440 It's more like Forrest Gump.
00:19:53.640 Like sometimes they get it right
00:19:54.480 and a lot of times it's just retarded.
00:19:55.680 And so we end up with this situation
00:19:57.060 where I get a Chinese linguist analyst
00:20:00.120 and she's assigned to the desk
00:20:01.280 right next to me.
00:20:01.680 It's perfect.
00:20:02.180 She's on my squad now.
00:20:02.900 I'm like,
00:20:03.220 oh good.
00:20:03.640 But we've got,
00:20:04.340 you know,
00:20:04.940 Chinese FISA,
00:20:06.180 got Chinese linguists.
00:20:07.180 It's good stuff.
00:20:08.340 So I'm like,
00:20:08.820 yeah,
00:20:09.280 I've got these emails.
00:20:10.380 Can you tell me what this says real quickly?
00:20:11.560 Just eyeball it,
00:20:12.200 whether it's worth my time.
00:20:13.200 I'll send it off to the linguist
00:20:14.160 for professional translation,
00:20:15.200 whatever.
00:20:15.540 And she was like,
00:20:16.120 oh,
00:20:16.240 I can't read Chinese characters.
00:20:17.980 I just speak it.
00:20:19.440 And I'm like,
00:20:20.300 I'm like everything I get is written.
00:20:22.000 Every single thing I get
00:20:23.020 is in,
00:20:23.420 is in written digital copy.
00:20:24.820 So that's the brilliance of the FBI for you.
00:20:26.440 But not only that,
00:20:26.900 I'm sure a lot of the emails were like,
00:20:28.640 hey,
00:20:28.780 did you pick up the milk,
00:20:29.680 bread and eggs?
00:20:30.420 It's spam.
00:20:31.320 I read spam.
00:20:32.380 Like,
00:20:32.500 think about what the volume of your email is.
00:20:34.560 Imagine if there was no filter
00:20:35.400 and you got all of it.
00:20:36.440 Yeah,
00:20:36.580 it's all spam.
00:20:37.100 It's emails like,
00:20:38.260 would you like to take a cruise?
00:20:39.800 Have you thought about the Pengu Islands?
00:20:41.220 You know,
00:20:41.420 it's like,
00:20:41.800 oh,
00:20:42.220 it's garbage.
00:20:42.980 Yeah,
00:20:43.120 I get a lot of Donald Trump emails.
00:20:44.520 So there's that.
00:20:45.500 I mean,
00:20:45.780 that's what I did doing Chinese CI.
00:20:48.060 And then I spent three years doing surveillance
00:20:49.660 where I looked at a little bit of everything,
00:20:50.960 but I wasn't the guy who was the case agent.
00:20:52.400 I was looking at stuff
00:20:53.000 and we have some bad guys out there.
00:20:54.160 There's some legit terrorist subjects
00:20:55.620 who do some weird things.
00:20:57.040 None of the legit terrorist subjects
00:20:58.260 that I've seen have ever been arrested.
00:21:00.800 The ones that were the scariest,
00:21:01.900 that were armed,
00:21:02.860 swore allegiance to ISIS,
00:21:04.200 going out and doing like firearms training
00:21:05.860 in the middle of the desert
00:21:06.560 and like getting themselves ready
00:21:07.700 to conduct an attack
00:21:08.600 and had already said
00:21:09.580 that they wanted to like
00:21:10.380 put their life on the line for Allah.
00:21:13.120 Those people have not been arrested.
00:21:14.060 Is that because they want to let them
00:21:15.240 commit the crime,
00:21:15.880 catch them,
00:21:16.320 and then have them lead them
00:21:17.460 to the next big death?
00:21:18.140 They're totally incentivized
00:21:19.200 to have an overt act
00:21:20.400 and getting someone to do an overt act.
00:21:22.360 But you know,
00:21:22.920 the other thing is,
00:21:23.540 is like I used to work
00:21:24.400 a lot of white supremacists
00:21:25.700 and you'll find what they'll do
00:21:26.740 is a white supremacist on average
00:21:28.360 in my experience,
00:21:29.120 and I have what,
00:21:30.100 three years and thousands of hours
00:21:31.420 of watching people in that category.
00:21:33.960 It's like,
00:21:34.820 it's a 20 something year old kid
00:21:36.300 who may or may not be in college,
00:21:37.860 who wears loafers and khaki pants
00:21:39.760 and a polo shirt
00:21:40.480 and is drinking a latte at Starbucks.
00:21:41.880 And he's like rage texting or tweeting
00:21:44.180 and he's saying shitty things on Reddit.
00:21:46.040 And he's a racist maybe.
00:21:47.320 And then when you put an undercover into them,
00:21:48.800 which costs tens of thousands of dollars,
00:21:50.860 if not more,
00:21:51.680 plus my surveillance team,
00:21:52.740 which would cost,
00:21:53.380 you know,
00:21:53.540 just on salaries alone,
00:21:54.460 $10,000 a day for a shift
00:21:55.920 for eight hours.
00:21:56.960 They would go like,
00:21:57.980 hey man,
00:21:58.700 you want to do some real racist stuff
00:21:59.840 and like go kill some cops or something?
00:22:01.200 You want to kill some black cops?
00:22:02.320 And he's like,
00:22:02.860 no,
00:22:03.060 I think I'm going to like get a job
00:22:04.480 and like maybe meet a girl
00:22:05.640 and hold hands with her.
00:22:06.880 Like they don't want to do
00:22:07.760 the thing they say online.
00:22:08.640 It turns out they're keyboard warriors.
00:22:10.440 Yeah.
00:22:10.920 There's a,
00:22:11.420 there's a funny meme about that
00:22:12.520 where a guy posted on 4chan
00:22:13.840 that he,
00:22:14.980 he was posting spicy memes
00:22:16.320 and pictures
00:22:17.060 because he's just antagonizing.
00:22:19.360 Or shit posting.
00:22:19.880 And then he's like,
00:22:20.660 feds showed up at my house
00:22:21.740 and when they realized
00:22:22.820 I'm just like some fat dude
00:22:24.000 who sits in the living room
00:22:24.760 and plays video games all day,
00:22:25.740 they apologized and left.
00:22:27.580 Now they'll arrest you.
00:22:28.640 Like Douglas Mackey
00:22:29.380 is in jail for that.
00:22:30.580 What did he do?
00:22:31.220 Oh, right.
00:22:31.420 He made Trump memes
00:22:32.480 that said if you want to,
00:22:33.600 I think the allegation was,
00:22:35.200 is that he deprived people
00:22:36.500 of their ability to vote.
00:22:37.880 Because it was like text to vote.
00:22:39.140 Because you could text your vote.
00:22:39.980 I mean,
00:22:40.300 you might as well just say,
00:22:41.120 look,
00:22:41.280 if you love Hillary Clinton,
00:22:42.240 go yell at the moon
00:22:42.940 and we'll record it.
00:22:44.060 Yeah.
00:22:44.180 It's the same stupidity.
00:22:45.520 Yep.
00:22:45.920 And,
00:22:46.180 and nobody has a,
00:22:47.280 like,
00:22:47.360 I don't know.
00:22:47.500 It's like the first time
00:22:48.120 that someone's been charged
00:22:49.020 for something like this.
00:22:49.820 It's a clear person.
00:22:50.740 It was disenfranchisement
00:22:53.240 or something like that.
00:22:54.300 Yeah.
00:22:54.580 Conspiracy to,
00:22:55.420 it's a conspiracy against rights
00:22:56.860 is what the,
00:22:57.660 the charges,
00:22:58.180 I think it's 18 U.S.C. 242.
00:22:59.960 But everybody,
00:23:01.200 everybody knows the,
00:23:01.940 the,
00:23:02.140 the stories,
00:23:03.140 especially when you look
00:23:03.860 at like the Whitmer case,
00:23:04.800 three more acquittals
00:23:05.760 that what the FBI does
00:23:07.420 is like you mentioned,
00:23:09.420 they'll,
00:23:09.820 they'll find some guy
00:23:10.980 who's like sitting on his couch
00:23:12.000 being like,
00:23:12.740 yo,
00:23:13.000 dang old government,
00:23:13.920 you know,
00:23:14.140 I hate the government.
00:23:14.900 And then they'll come
00:23:15.460 and be like,
00:23:15.880 here are a bunch of weapons.
00:23:17.260 Here's,
00:23:17.620 here's a bunch,
00:23:18.080 here's a plan for you.
00:23:20.120 He worked on the task force
00:23:21.140 that would do that stuff.
00:23:22.080 So you can,
00:23:22.340 I mean,
00:23:22.460 Gary can tell you
00:23:23.020 how these terrorists
00:23:23.900 tell us about it.
00:23:24.900 Yeah.
00:23:25.100 I mean,
00:23:25.420 there's countless examples of this,
00:23:27.400 but it happens all the time.
00:23:28.740 I just pulled up one.
00:23:29.980 Do you guys remember
00:23:30.560 back in 2015,
00:23:31.520 the Garland,
00:23:32.100 Texas shooting?
00:23:33.020 I mean,
00:23:33.240 like,
00:23:33.380 I feel like a lot of this stuff
00:23:34.280 we got,
00:23:34.700 we have to,
00:23:35.160 we have to like bring it back up
00:23:37.700 so we don't memory hole it.
00:23:39.780 The headline from the intercept
00:23:41.180 and this is from 2016.
00:23:42.660 I,
00:23:42.920 this just came up recently again
00:23:44.200 because I think the case is ongoing,
00:23:45.540 but the headline says
00:23:46.960 FBI agent goaded Garland shooter
00:23:48.640 to tear up Texas,
00:23:49.860 raising new alarms
00:23:50.520 about Bureau's methods.
00:23:51.720 This undercover FBI agent
00:23:53.080 followed that shooter
00:23:54.400 and never intervened
00:23:55.840 because the FBI is incentivized
00:23:59.000 for cases like this.
00:24:00.480 So then they can come out
00:24:01.340 and say,
00:24:01.920 Hey,
00:24:02.400 we stopped the terror.
00:24:03.580 We stopped the terrorism.
00:24:04.940 You know,
00:24:05.200 you guys ever see the meme
00:24:06.140 with the stick,
00:24:07.060 you know,
00:24:07.380 they're poking the pepe.
00:24:08.440 Do something.
00:24:09.660 Yeah.
00:24:10.040 And it's like,
00:24:10.520 that's what this is.
00:24:11.680 And people say,
00:24:12.360 Oh,
00:24:12.440 that's just an anecdote.
00:24:13.340 Okay.
00:24:13.720 Yeah.
00:24:13.900 The one I pulled up,
00:24:14.820 you could call an anecdote
00:24:15.720 if you want.
00:24:16.260 Does that make it okay?
00:24:17.080 Does that make it right?
00:24:17.960 And there's,
00:24:19.320 this isn't an anecdote
00:24:20.200 because there are countless examples
00:24:22.460 of this type of thing.
00:24:23.500 We got questions about Las Vegas.
00:24:25.400 So do we.
00:24:26.140 Yeah.
00:24:26.500 Yeah.
00:24:26.720 Well,
00:24:26.820 I think everybody inside the Bureau
00:24:27.800 has questions about Las Vegas,
00:24:29.100 but nobody knows the answers to them
00:24:30.380 is the other crazy thing
00:24:31.080 because it's compartmented.
00:24:32.420 And that's the other piece
00:24:33.140 people have to understand.
00:24:33.900 They go,
00:24:34.080 why did you blow the whistle on,
00:24:35.140 on aliens?
00:24:35.840 Or why don't you blow the whistle on this?
00:24:36.920 It's like,
00:24:37.180 dude,
00:24:37.380 you can only see what you can see.
00:24:39.360 You got to be like,
00:24:40.040 dude,
00:24:40.200 you have to have a need to know
00:24:41.300 even on cases that are not classified.
00:24:43.060 You just got to be like,
00:24:43.740 there's nothing to blow the whistle on.
00:24:45.040 The aliens are good dudes.
00:24:45.920 I mean,
00:24:46.200 oh crap.
00:24:47.420 They're just turning into cakes in Mexico.
00:24:49.500 Yeah.
00:24:49.740 Yeah.
00:24:49.960 I saw that.
00:24:50.440 That was really good.
00:24:51.560 The,
00:24:51.880 the,
00:24:52.160 the aliens that they published.
00:24:53.600 Yeah.
00:24:53.880 There's a video of someone
00:24:54.920 cutting them open.
00:24:55.700 It's cake.
00:24:56.380 It was cakes all time.
00:24:57.940 Garrett,
00:24:58.160 were you saying with this Texas shooting
00:24:59.540 and maybe with all of these,
00:25:00.460 that the people,
00:25:01.940 the FBI agents will set it up
00:25:03.360 and,
00:25:03.660 and orchestrate a terror plot
00:25:05.100 just to break up the plot
00:25:06.280 to be like,
00:25:06.640 I was the guy that stopped terror.
00:25:08.500 Yeah.
00:25:09.180 That's,
00:25:09.560 that's what I'm saying.
00:25:10.080 Yeah.
00:25:10.220 And that,
00:25:10.920 because it looks good.
00:25:11.620 It's like a badge of honor.
00:25:13.440 So in the FBI,
00:25:14.540 there's a system called IPM,
00:25:16.020 integrated program management.
00:25:17.580 And it's basically like a business model
00:25:19.860 for law enforcement,
00:25:20.820 which in a,
00:25:21.620 in a,
00:25:21.920 the supposed land of the free,
00:25:23.300 that's not how law enforcement
00:25:24.820 is supposed to be working.
00:25:26.020 I'm pretty sure people
00:25:27.260 who came up with this idea
00:25:28.220 never took constitutional law class.
00:25:30.000 If they did,
00:25:30.400 they need to go back
00:25:31.020 and take it again.
00:25:32.080 Because that is not
00:25:33.820 how law enforcement
00:25:34.760 is supposed to work
00:25:35.480 in this country where you,
00:25:37.640 maybe you find somebody
00:25:38.640 on Facebook who posts something
00:25:40.080 that is derogatory
00:25:41.660 or you think in your head,
00:25:44.080 hmm,
00:25:44.260 maybe we could go
00:25:45.060 with this guy a little bit more.
00:25:46.100 He seems predisposed
00:25:48.000 is,
00:25:48.380 is what,
00:25:48.960 what the FBI
00:25:50.040 and the DOJ will use
00:25:51.200 because they will set up
00:25:52.520 a terror plot like this.
00:25:54.460 And in this case,
00:25:55.440 that guy did go
00:25:56.360 and shoot.
00:25:57.080 And I think a local police officer
00:25:58.480 or security guard
00:25:59.200 is the one who intervened.
00:26:00.960 He was an off-duty cop
00:26:01.900 working as a security guard,
00:26:03.000 shot him with a revolver,
00:26:03.960 killed two men with AKs
00:26:05.120 stepping out of the car.
00:26:06.160 Well,
00:26:06.560 yeah.
00:26:06.800 Took,
00:26:07.020 took rounds to the ankle,
00:26:07.860 I think in the knee
00:26:08.480 as well,
00:26:08.880 so he was shot.
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00:27:38.780 But the FBI
00:27:39.260 was sitting there
00:27:39.800 watching it happen
00:27:40.760 because they needed
00:27:41.400 that overt act
00:27:42.340 of terrorism
00:27:42.780 to be able to get
00:27:43.380 the terrorism stat.
00:27:44.420 Right.
00:27:44.820 Wow.
00:27:45.240 I want to tell you
00:27:45.700 the story that I think
00:27:46.700 is the way that it worked.
00:27:47.640 Okay,
00:27:47.780 this is the overarching
00:27:48.840 narrative for people
00:27:49.580 to grasp
00:27:50.060 and it's the more
00:27:51.560 people can understand
00:27:52.260 this,
00:27:52.460 the better off we are.
00:27:53.500 The FBI
00:27:53.940 was incentivized
00:27:54.840 right after 9-11.
00:27:55.920 My buddy George Hill
00:27:56.680 who was an FBI whistleblower,
00:27:57.560 he's the one who brought
00:27:58.040 forward the Bank of America
00:27:59.020 records
00:27:59.440 and testified in front
00:28:00.560 of Congress.
00:28:01.240 Bank of America
00:28:01.680 volunteered
00:28:02.200 all their stuff
00:28:03.600 to the FBI.
00:28:04.060 They said,
00:28:04.740 anybody who used
00:28:05.420 a Bank of America
00:28:06.040 charge card
00:28:06.720 that was in D.C.
00:28:08.060 on January 5th,
00:28:08.980 6th,
00:28:09.180 and 7th,
00:28:09.740 here's a list
00:28:10.440 of all the people
00:28:10.960 that did that
00:28:11.480 so you can run down
00:28:12.500 anybody in D.C.
00:28:13.760 voluntarily.
00:28:14.500 And by the way,
00:28:15.160 here's the prioritized
00:28:16.240 versions who have bought
00:28:16.840 a gun at some point
00:28:17.500 in time using
00:28:18.320 one of our products.
00:28:19.300 They gave them
00:28:19.840 a cross-reference.
00:28:20.840 So that's what
00:28:21.520 George Hill brought forward.
00:28:22.220 And he told me this
00:28:22.900 on my little podcast
00:28:24.260 that we're sitting
00:28:25.000 in an interview
00:28:25.300 and I'm like,
00:28:25.600 what's the story here?
00:28:26.800 He goes,
00:28:27.400 on September 12th,
00:28:28.440 2001,
00:28:29.120 the American people
00:28:29.720 accepted a new definition
00:28:30.680 of national security.
00:28:32.260 And the definition is this.
00:28:33.380 It went from
00:28:34.120 protect and defend
00:28:35.020 the Constitution,
00:28:36.660 secure the republic
00:28:37.720 that exists
00:28:38.480 under the Constitution.
00:28:39.940 That's what it previously meant.
00:28:41.880 People die in that pursuit
00:28:42.900 all the time.
00:28:43.400 They have for a long time.
00:28:44.240 I have friends who have.
00:28:45.080 I know Garrett does as well.
00:28:46.380 When that happens,
00:28:47.280 that's what we did.
00:28:48.480 On the 12th of September, 2001,
00:28:51.120 the definition became
00:28:51.900 no American dies from terrorism
00:28:53.180 on American soil again.
00:28:54.920 And once you do that,
00:28:56.000 that is a totalitarian position.
00:28:57.580 That is zero COVID.
00:28:58.820 It doesn't matter what
00:28:59.700 zero anything,
00:29:00.660 a no-fail mission equals
00:29:01.820 you're going to be
00:29:02.260 tyrannical about it.
00:29:03.160 In the military,
00:29:03.820 that's fine.
00:29:04.260 If you have a no-fail mission
00:29:05.240 and things have to get
00:29:06.220 really aggressive
00:29:06.680 and you're going to
00:29:07.100 sacrifice people along the way,
00:29:08.140 if that is that important,
00:29:09.280 they do so.
00:29:10.020 But that's what
00:29:10.540 the mission changed to.
00:29:11.420 And so what we did was
00:29:12.340 the intelligence community
00:29:14.260 and the FBI specifically
00:29:15.380 got involved in hunting down
00:29:17.100 international terrorism,
00:29:18.160 what we call IT, okay?
00:29:19.740 There's a whole section for it,
00:29:20.840 the international terrorism
00:29:21.800 operations section, ITOS.
00:29:24.120 And those guys
00:29:24.940 hunt down international terrorists.
00:29:26.220 Okay, well, you run out of those
00:29:27.120 because our military
00:29:27.660 is fantastic at what they do.
00:29:29.420 Hurt feelings,
00:29:30.660 break stuff overseas,
00:29:32.140 tie up ISIS,
00:29:33.120 tie up Al-Qaeda,
00:29:33.920 you name it.
00:29:34.360 They were doing that.
00:29:34.960 They were doing that overseas.
00:29:36.040 And so they did.
00:29:36.840 Well, we ran out of
00:29:37.720 like local international terrorists.
00:29:39.600 Like you just didn't go down
00:29:40.700 and find anymore.
00:29:41.420 But there's a big budget.
00:29:42.660 And so they had to keep finding them.
00:29:43.880 So they found a second tier of people.
00:29:46.160 And what we found
00:29:46.720 in the mid-2000s
00:29:47.700 into like 2010, 12,
00:29:48.880 you know, around before 2015,
00:29:51.300 the tier was called HVEs.
00:29:52.920 You probably heard the term
00:29:53.660 homegrown violent extremists.
00:29:55.120 Most people don't know
00:29:56.120 what that means.
00:29:56.920 And that means people
00:29:57.760 who are domestic,
00:29:58.600 they're first generation Americans,
00:29:59.960 they're second generation,
00:30:00.840 maybe they're naturalized
00:30:01.700 US citizens,
00:30:02.220 but they live here
00:30:02.900 and they're in the United States.
00:30:04.300 They have a right to be here.
00:30:05.520 But they associate
00:30:06.340 with a foreign ideology.
00:30:07.720 So now you've gone
00:30:08.400 from foreign ideology
00:30:09.280 that's foreign
00:30:09.920 to domestic
00:30:11.080 with foreign ideology.
00:30:12.260 Once you're looking
00:30:12.960 inside of your own house
00:30:13.960 and you're like,
00:30:14.560 who are the terrorists?
00:30:15.760 Then you might as well
00:30:16.720 keep the third tier,
00:30:18.080 which is called
00:30:18.480 domestic violent extremists,
00:30:19.980 which is what we're at right now.
00:30:21.180 That's tier three
00:30:22.080 because you're already
00:30:22.740 looking around the house.
00:30:23.480 You go,
00:30:23.640 who else is a threat?
00:30:24.580 How about that guy?
00:30:25.140 He's got a rifle on his shirt
00:30:26.340 and he's got an American flag
00:30:27.660 that looks like
00:30:28.120 an upside down Betsy Ross flag.
00:30:29.500 That's a problem.
00:30:30.540 So now you end up
00:30:31.240 with things that I exposed
00:30:32.180 with my buddies.
00:30:32.860 It was like the Betsy Ross flag,
00:30:34.940 the Gadsden flag,
00:30:35.720 the 1835 Gonzales battle flag,
00:30:37.460 the freaking,
00:30:37.940 like a Punisher skull.
00:30:39.700 These are symbols
00:30:40.460 of militia violent extremists
00:30:41.860 because there's all these
00:30:42.600 different tiers under DVEs.
00:30:43.860 I have to say that
00:30:44.780 if Gadsden,
00:30:46.900 Gonzales,
00:30:47.520 Betsy Ross,
00:30:48.720 those are,
00:30:50.220 that's American iconography.
00:30:52.200 Yep.
00:30:52.580 Anyone who says
00:30:53.540 that's our enemy
00:30:54.160 is an occupying force
00:30:55.820 of this country.
00:30:56.560 They are.
00:30:57.080 And what did we do,
00:30:58.480 Tim,
00:30:58.900 when we swore our oath
00:31:00.340 to the constitution
00:31:01.500 of this country?
00:31:02.280 We swore to defend enemies
00:31:03.960 both foreign and domestic.
00:31:05.920 And the issue now
00:31:06.980 is that there are
00:31:07.860 a lot of anti-American elements
00:31:09.860 in the government,
00:31:11.260 in the DOJ
00:31:11.980 that don't like
00:31:13.500 this country's history
00:31:14.440 and view the,
00:31:16.280 the fact that they view
00:31:17.440 the Betsy Ross flag
00:31:18.440 as a symbol of extremism.
00:31:19.620 Right.
00:31:20.000 You might as well have
00:31:21.320 British redcoats,
00:31:22.740 I mean,
00:31:23.080 figuratively,
00:31:23.880 in the government telling you,
00:31:25.740 hey,
00:31:25.900 we're here to weed out
00:31:26.920 the terrorists.
00:31:28.060 No,
00:31:28.160 no,
00:31:28.240 no,
00:31:28.320 no,
00:31:28.380 the patriots
00:31:29.020 back in the revolution
00:31:29.860 flew the American flag
00:31:30.840 and they said
00:31:31.200 that's a terror symbol.
00:31:32.040 You're,
00:31:32.180 you're rebels.
00:31:32.840 It's a rebel flag.
00:31:33.840 If you think the T
00:31:34.600 goes in the harbor,
00:31:35.600 if that's your mindset,
00:31:36.540 that's where the T goes,
00:31:37.660 then you're a problem
00:31:38.680 apparently to this government.
00:31:39.660 And that's not acceptable
00:31:40.440 because the government
00:31:41.220 doesn't actually work
00:31:41.980 for us at this point.
00:31:42.700 I mean,
00:31:42.860 that's pretty obvious.
00:31:43.720 I gotta say,
00:31:44.460 it is really crazy
00:31:45.360 when you think about
00:31:46.160 the path from,
00:31:47.440 no,
00:31:47.980 legit.
00:31:48.660 Look at the biggest
00:31:49.360 simps for government.
00:31:50.400 They're in,
00:31:50.760 they're in the birthplace
00:31:51.800 of the American revolution.
00:31:52.760 Seriously.
00:31:53.080 But like,
00:31:53.540 just go any blue state,
00:31:54.840 like go to Connecticut,
00:31:56.200 go to Massachusetts.
00:31:56.740 It's crazy.
00:31:57.780 And they,
00:31:58.040 didn't they move
00:31:59.120 the Springfield Armory
00:31:59.960 out of Massachusetts?
00:32:01.320 It's insane.
00:32:02.040 They've all left.
00:32:02.880 They've all either,
00:32:03.400 they went to Colorado,
00:32:04.220 some of them left Colorado,
00:32:05.280 they've gone to Texas.
00:32:06.180 It is,
00:32:06.740 it is really crazy
00:32:07.440 that there is a direct line
00:32:08.500 from a bunch of dudes
00:32:09.680 threw tea into the water
00:32:10.900 to the shots fired
00:32:13.280 at Lexington and Concord.
00:32:14.360 It was a direct line.
00:32:15.540 Of course.
00:32:15.960 Because they threw
00:32:16.500 the tea in the water,
00:32:17.180 the Crown responded
00:32:17.940 with the coercive acts.
00:32:20.100 Then the colonists
00:32:21.040 responded with
00:32:21.620 the Suffolk Resolves.
00:32:22.540 So then the right coats
00:32:23.160 came and said,
00:32:23.540 give us your guns.
00:32:24.140 They said,
00:32:24.460 no,
00:32:24.980 war.
00:32:25.800 That's it.
00:32:26.360 And they could have just,
00:32:27.120 the Crown could have said,
00:32:28.220 we're going to drop
00:32:29.080 the tea thing
00:32:29.700 and there'd be no revolution.
00:32:31.680 But that's the same thing
00:32:32.580 as saying the FBI
00:32:33.180 would drop the J6 thing.
00:32:34.260 Exactly.
00:32:34.640 They won't do it.
00:32:35.400 Do it.
00:32:35.860 They're pot committed
00:32:36.540 to this thing.
00:32:37.160 I mean,
00:32:37.380 I know you play poker,
00:32:38.620 but it's like,
00:32:39.060 they are.
00:32:39.500 They've put so much in there.
00:32:40.620 They have everything
00:32:41.340 on the line.
00:32:42.140 And here's what's really wild too,
00:32:43.300 because I found this out
00:32:43.880 from a guy who was
00:32:44.440 a whistleblower to me
00:32:45.100 or we shared this
00:32:45.960 with Congress.
00:32:47.080 This is how insane it got.
00:32:48.720 They are so desperate
00:32:49.640 to find domestic violent extremists,
00:32:51.900 which is the new push.
00:32:53.300 Like I said,
00:32:53.740 there's ITOS
00:32:54.700 and there's a thing
00:32:55.260 called DTOS.
00:32:55.960 That's the domestic
00:32:56.520 terrorism side of it.
00:32:58.180 DTOS was on the hook
00:32:59.500 for,
00:32:59.980 they've gone so far
00:33:00.980 and above in 2022
00:33:02.020 and they've booked
00:33:03.120 so many hours.
00:33:04.140 FBI agents
00:33:04.660 actually bill their hours
00:33:05.460 against a type of case,
00:33:06.780 not case specific,
00:33:08.020 but a style of case,
00:33:09.240 specifically like
00:33:10.020 domestic terrorism,
00:33:10.800 which are 266 designations.
00:33:13.000 The international ones
00:33:13.900 are 415s.
00:33:14.760 So the 266s
00:33:15.840 were so heavy in hours
00:33:17.240 when it came down
00:33:18.180 to the number of people
00:33:18.700 working it,
00:33:19.320 that they were looking
00:33:20.040 at losing the money
00:33:21.000 from Congress
00:33:21.760 for ITOS
00:33:22.780 because they hadn't
00:33:23.340 billed enough 415 hours.
00:33:24.800 Wow.
00:33:25.120 And it was 300 plus
00:33:26.700 million dollars
00:33:27.800 they were not going to get
00:33:28.620 if they couldn't figure out
00:33:29.720 how to take some
00:33:30.400 of these domestic terrorists
00:33:31.380 and also cross link them
00:33:33.120 to things.
00:33:33.700 So they were going
00:33:34.200 through chats online
00:33:35.260 to say,
00:33:35.780 you know,
00:33:36.620 Ian,
00:33:36.880 he's a domestic bond extremist.
00:33:38.360 He's got a real problem.
00:33:39.140 Has he ever talked
00:33:39.740 to a guy
00:33:40.140 in the same chat room
00:33:41.140 that an ISIS guy was in
00:33:42.380 like at some point in time?
00:33:43.480 Can we link him
00:33:44.220 to ISIS anyway?
00:33:45.300 Can we find out
00:33:45.860 if he has some friends
00:33:46.520 that were in Al-Shabaab
00:33:47.360 even if it's like,
00:33:48.220 you know,
00:33:48.440 multiple jumps?
00:33:49.240 Yeah.
00:33:49.620 Because they needed
00:33:50.260 to cross link it
00:33:50.980 so they could cross
00:33:51.800 build these things
00:33:52.300 however,
00:33:52.680 and get the money?
00:33:53.300 There were several instances.
00:33:54.940 How about Stop Cop City
00:33:56.400 where we know
00:33:57.380 there were,
00:33:58.160 I think a Canadian
00:33:58.920 and a French guy
00:33:59.560 were active there.
00:34:00.500 And you also have
00:34:01.560 several instances
00:34:02.060 where Antifa
00:34:03.560 were in direct communication
00:34:04.600 with their European counterparts
00:34:05.920 in Eastern Europe
00:34:07.340 committing acts of violence
00:34:08.880 against government targets.
00:34:10.500 I mean,
00:34:11.300 these people have not
00:34:12.360 even ranked.
00:34:13.620 Right.
00:34:13.940 Christopher Wray
00:34:14.580 himself has said
00:34:15.560 that Antifa,
00:34:16.840 oh,
00:34:16.960 that's just an ideology.
00:34:18.760 And it's like,
00:34:19.380 uh,
00:34:20.020 no,
00:34:20.540 there are,
00:34:21.200 that ideology
00:34:21.740 almost got me shot
00:34:22.580 when I was in,
00:34:23.220 I was in Portland.
00:34:24.500 I did work in Portland
00:34:25.960 in 2020.
00:34:26.840 That's like saying
00:34:27.620 ISIS is just an ideology
00:34:29.680 and it's like,
00:34:30.680 well,
00:34:31.080 yes,
00:34:31.600 the,
00:34:31.900 the like.
00:34:32.740 But there are people
00:34:33.180 behind it.
00:34:34.000 What was,
00:34:34.820 what is,
00:34:35.240 what is the,
00:34:35.860 I don't want to get this wrong
00:34:36.660 and I don't want to insult anybody.
00:34:37.700 What's the,
00:34:38.020 what's the exact phrase
00:34:39.340 for the type of Islam
00:34:40.220 that ISIS was practicing?
00:34:41.180 There's a phrase for,
00:34:41.800 isn't there?
00:34:42.320 That describes the kind of
00:34:43.660 extremist view they had.
00:34:45.660 I don't want to say,
00:34:46.600 I think I know what it is,
00:34:47.580 but I don't want to offend someone
00:34:48.580 if I say the wrong one.
00:34:49.500 So I'm not going to.
00:34:50.420 That's fair.
00:34:50.860 Because there's,
00:34:51.460 there's,
00:34:51.800 there's Islam where it's
00:34:52.840 absolutely totally fine.
00:34:53.060 You need a jihad on you today.
00:34:54.340 You probably are.
00:34:55.120 Oh no,
00:34:55.480 I don't care about that.
00:34:56.440 I'm saying like,
00:34:57.740 I know people who are Muslim
00:34:58.920 who are good people.
00:34:59.700 Yeah.
00:34:59.840 I don't want to,
00:35:00.300 I don't want to insult anybody
00:35:01.340 who's a legitimate,
00:35:02.240 you know,
00:35:02.640 practicing good person
00:35:03.620 who wants peace.
00:35:04.440 Right.
00:35:04.580 These people were burning
00:35:05.540 and raping people
00:35:06.460 and murdering them.
00:35:07.180 And beheading journalists
00:35:08.160 and all kinds of stuff.
00:35:09.120 You have Antifa
00:35:10.080 that is the descriptor
00:35:12.920 of the cells.
00:35:14.620 So,
00:35:14.860 without going into the brand names,
00:35:17.620 there's a bunch of brand name
00:35:18.920 Antifa cells
00:35:19.720 and they're all interlinked.
00:35:20.940 To go,
00:35:21.560 it's just an idea.
00:35:22.260 It's like,
00:35:22.580 well,
00:35:22.780 yeah,
00:35:22.960 that's like saying like
00:35:24.120 jihadi extremism or whatever
00:35:25.580 is just an idea.
00:35:26.420 Sure.
00:35:26.580 But we're targeting ISIS.
00:35:27.840 They know better.
00:35:29.120 So I got TDY'd to Portland
00:35:31.040 temporary duty assignment.
00:35:32.320 So we're out there
00:35:32.840 for a couple of weeks.
00:35:33.520 I got to spend time.
00:35:34.800 What we call,
00:35:35.260 what they would call
00:35:36.040 either undercover,
00:35:37.160 they would call it
00:35:37.580 a covert surveillance.
00:35:38.640 That's actually the wrong word.
00:35:39.640 It's low visibility.
00:35:40.980 Yeah.
00:35:41.140 So it's,
00:35:42.020 it's nominally backstopped,
00:35:43.280 which means if you were like,
00:35:44.000 go like,
00:35:44.220 hey,
00:35:44.540 like I didn't run around
00:35:45.220 with like a fake ID on me.
00:35:46.460 I could,
00:35:46.960 there are ways to do that,
00:35:47.820 but I just didn't do that.
00:35:48.920 They have a thing called AFID.
00:35:49.920 Many people don't know.
00:35:50.580 It's the alternative federal ID program.
00:35:52.140 So I could get like my real picture
00:35:53.500 and a real like Virginia driver's license
00:35:55.260 with a fake name on it.
00:35:56.600 Nice.
00:35:56.960 And credit card and so on.
00:35:58.120 So you can do that kind of thing.
00:35:59.120 Like the federal government
00:35:59.780 actually does has that program,
00:36:00.920 but I wasn't using that.
00:36:01.900 I was just sitting there.
00:36:02.620 I'm,
00:36:02.940 I was Kyle Serafin,
00:36:03.860 but I just didn't tell you who I was.
00:36:04.980 And I'm driving in a Tacoma truck
00:36:06.120 that I rented from Enterprise
00:36:07.420 and I'm hanging out
00:36:08.560 and I'm just watching guys from Antifa,
00:36:14.220 and we had live feed from all the streamers
00:36:17.280 coming into the command post.
00:36:18.760 Yep.
00:36:18.920 We had real-time intelligence
00:36:20.300 from all the different groups.
00:36:21.440 DHS was there.
00:36:22.180 The local PD was there.
00:36:23.180 Portland Police Bureau had representatives,
00:36:24.800 FBI,
00:36:25.320 so on and so forth,
00:36:26.020 different DHS border patrol
00:36:27.860 if they had their people
00:36:28.600 because they had,
00:36:29.080 you know,
00:36:29.380 defensive force around the courthouse.
00:36:31.560 And we're watching the coordination in real time.
00:36:34.440 They had FRS radios.
00:36:35.860 You know what those are?
00:36:36.740 No.
00:36:37.120 They're just like your,
00:36:37.700 if you were to go to Walmart
00:36:38.320 and buy yourself like some Cobra radios
00:36:39.860 or like some Midland radios or something.
00:36:41.800 So FRS,
00:36:42.800 it's not encrypted.
00:36:43.400 It's in the open.
00:36:44.220 And they were talking and coordinating,
00:36:46.300 sending security elements
00:36:48.000 to check in on supposed feds,
00:36:49.840 some of whom were actual feds,
00:36:51.540 including like my buddies.
00:36:52.940 Wow.
00:36:53.080 And they were running off
00:36:54.080 federal surveillance agents
00:36:55.420 who were simply monitoring
00:36:56.660 what was going on
00:36:57.520 in case things got violent
00:36:58.700 and the subjects
00:36:59.800 that we had investigations into.
00:37:01.060 I saw zero prosecutions of them.
00:37:02.760 We had recorded
00:37:03.620 that they actually called out
00:37:04.920 my license plate.
00:37:06.060 They sent a security element
00:37:07.640 to my vehicle,
00:37:09.040 sent six people
00:37:09.880 and surrounded my vehicle
00:37:10.700 to intimidate me,
00:37:11.460 which is, by the way,
00:37:12.020 not that intimidating.
00:37:13.180 I had a big beard.
00:37:14.380 I'm sitting there in a hoodie
00:37:15.280 with body armor on.
00:37:16.280 I've got a rifle by my knee
00:37:17.220 and my handgun right here.
00:37:18.180 And I've got six people walking around.
00:37:19.600 They ended up outing themselves
00:37:20.560 because they're also not very bright.
00:37:22.240 But they were sitting there
00:37:23.740 and they're like,
00:37:24.140 you look like a fed.
00:37:24.800 Like, what are you doing?
00:37:25.300 I'm like, I'm eating beef jerky.
00:37:26.360 What are you doing?
00:37:26.820 It looks cold out there.
00:37:27.500 Why are you wearing fishnets?
00:37:28.260 You know, like,
00:37:28.600 I'm just kind of hassling them
00:37:30.340 because some chick comes up.
00:37:31.080 They're all wearing a thing
00:37:31.920 that says juice
00:37:32.620 with like the black power fist on it.
00:37:34.600 J, you know, U-I-C-E.
00:37:36.220 It's actually the red salute.
00:37:37.880 It's the communist fist.
00:37:38.660 Okay, so it's a communist fist,
00:37:39.660 not the black power fist.
00:37:40.840 So they're wearing this on a-
00:37:41.740 But just to clarify,
00:37:42.800 it is used as a symbol of black power.
00:37:46.260 But what people need to understand
00:37:47.820 is the fist you see Antifa use,
00:37:51.240 BLM use,
00:37:52.400 it's originally called the red salute.
00:37:53.880 It's the communist salute,
00:37:55.180 which is the exact same thing
00:37:57.140 as the Roman salute
00:37:57.960 in the inverse.
00:37:59.080 So the Nazis, the fascists,
00:38:01.060 would do the Roman salute,
00:38:01.920 the Hitler salute.
00:38:03.340 The purpose of the red salute,
00:38:05.480 holding your fist up facing outward,
00:38:07.220 is to show that the fingers together
00:38:09.200 while individually are weak,
00:38:10.340 together make a fist.
00:38:11.680 That's the purpose,
00:38:12.360 is a communist symbol of power.
00:38:14.780 And now what's happened is
00:38:16.220 you have people,
00:38:17.880 I've seen college students
00:38:20.220 hold up the red salute
00:38:22.400 marching down the street,
00:38:23.760 not realizing what it means
00:38:26.700 and what it comes from,
00:38:27.540 and they don't care.
00:38:28.180 Well, the historical ignorance
00:38:29.220 is shocking right now
00:38:30.500 about a lot of things.
00:38:30.900 So when you see,
00:38:31.700 so here's what happens,
00:38:32.820 you see the Tiki Torch march
00:38:33.920 in Charlottesville,
00:38:34.760 and we're like,
00:38:35.440 this is awful,
00:38:36.180 this is very bad,
00:38:36.840 and they're screaming and yelling.
00:38:38.340 A lot of dumb young people
00:38:39.760 who have,
00:38:40.560 like,
00:38:41.060 there was,
00:38:41.720 my understanding is that
00:38:42.400 for most of these guys
00:38:43.180 who went there,
00:38:43.860 they weren't told exactly
00:38:44.780 what was going to happen,
00:38:45.700 but they don't care.
00:38:46.200 The Tiki Torch one?
00:38:46.780 Yeah,
00:38:47.120 there's organizers,
00:38:48.020 a large group of them,
00:38:48.820 they know exactly what their plan is,
00:38:50.160 but they need to get
00:38:51.040 as much filler as possible.
00:38:52.540 Now the media will call them out,
00:38:54.080 rightly so,
00:38:54.760 call out the extremists,
00:38:58.180 holding up the communist fist,
00:38:59.640 the media's nothing.
00:39:01.240 But anyway,
00:39:01.860 sorry,
00:39:02.100 continue.
00:39:02.540 So, you know,
00:39:03.000 I probably,
00:39:04.360 I was watching hands,
00:39:05.500 I'm watching demeanor,
00:39:06.380 I've got hands down by waistlines,
00:39:07.980 like,
00:39:08.200 I probably could have articulated
00:39:10.560 justifiably shooting
00:39:11.480 at least one of the guys
00:39:12.220 when things were going weird,
00:39:13.460 because it got real weird.
00:39:14.360 I mean,
00:39:14.500 it's weird when six people
00:39:15.480 surround your vehicle in the dark,
00:39:16.720 and you're by yourself.
00:39:18.040 And I was out there
00:39:18.900 kind of as bait,
00:39:19.480 like,
00:39:19.660 I talked to a case agent,
00:39:20.820 and I go,
00:39:21.320 he goes,
00:39:21.680 look,
00:39:21.840 they called out your thing,
00:39:22.500 you can bug out,
00:39:23.140 do you want to sit there
00:39:23.660 and see what they're going to do?
00:39:24.400 Like,
00:39:24.540 it might be weird.
00:39:25.220 And I go,
00:39:26.100 yeah,
00:39:26.460 I'm willing to take the risk.
00:39:27.280 I'm willing to sit here.
00:39:28.180 And that is a risk.
00:39:29.200 And I've got little kids,
00:39:30.040 and it's like,
00:39:30.460 whatever,
00:39:30.680 I want to see what they're going to do.
00:39:31.780 Are they going to attack a federal agent?
00:39:33.100 Yeah.
00:39:33.720 And it didn't get to that,
00:39:34.860 and I was very restrained,
00:39:35.820 and luckily,
00:39:36.620 they didn't get anything stupid.
00:39:37.440 One of the guys goes,
00:39:38.200 I recognize you, bro.
00:39:39.460 Were you,
00:39:39.780 you know,
00:39:39.980 we were at the park on Saturday,
00:39:41.160 and like,
00:39:41.420 every day runs together
00:39:42.120 when you do surveillance
00:39:42.740 for like 16 days in a row.
00:39:43.820 So I'm like,
00:39:44.240 I don't know,
00:39:44.520 I don't know,
00:39:44.820 like,
00:39:44.980 what park?
00:39:45.560 And he's like,
00:39:46.020 this park?
00:39:46.380 And I'm like,
00:39:46.640 I don't know the park's that well in Portland,
00:39:47.740 so I couldn't remember what it was,
00:39:48.800 and I was like,
00:39:49.200 ah,
00:39:49.500 maybe.
00:39:50.260 I don't remember.
00:39:50.840 He was like,
00:39:51.260 he was like,
00:39:51.600 I was on the blue and white Yamaha.
00:39:52.940 I remember you.
00:39:53.600 And I'm like,
00:39:53.960 oh,
00:39:54.120 no kidding?
00:39:54.520 I never saw your face.
00:39:55.440 Snap,
00:39:55.740 you know,
00:39:55.920 like,
00:39:56.040 grab a picture.
00:39:57.200 Thanks,
00:39:57.560 bro.
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00:39:59.180 and like,
00:39:59.500 running around.
00:39:59.880 They're very coordinated.
00:40:01.100 Yeah.
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00:41:31.400 They ran federal agents off the job that they were doing,
00:41:34.420 which, you know, whatever.
00:41:35.880 It was because we didn't want to break cover,
00:41:37.360 but they were doing organized things.
00:41:39.180 That's what organized crime looks like.
00:41:40.460 They have better watch and lookout setups than MS-13.
00:41:43.300 And I've worked on that threat as well
00:41:44.500 in places like Casa de Maryland.
00:41:46.000 So they had lookouts.
00:41:47.720 They had organization.
00:41:48.820 They had responses to keep themselves
00:41:51.020 from being viewed and infiltrated.
00:41:52.260 And they're violent.
00:41:53.400 There are tears, right?
00:41:54.800 So these guys who probably surround you
00:41:56.540 are just useful idiot types.
00:41:58.680 They march along with whatever they're told to do.
00:42:04.120 Someone says, hey, guys, let's go surround this vehicle.
00:42:06.000 They're very clueless to a certain degree,
00:42:08.100 but they have training.
00:42:09.460 So as you move up the tiers, you actually have NGOs.
00:42:13.400 You have funding for training these groups
00:42:16.180 in how to do everything they do.
00:42:17.860 And they have multiple legal apparatus.
00:42:21.620 How do I say this?
00:42:23.040 What's the pull of apparati?
00:42:24.580 Apparatuses?
00:42:25.060 Yeah, well, NLG, the National Lawyers Guild,
00:42:27.120 was out there.
00:42:27.540 They were their spotters.
00:42:28.800 As well as the ACLU.
00:42:30.020 Yep.
00:42:30.580 So the National Lawyers Guild functions.
00:42:33.620 And it's hilarious.
00:42:34.780 You got a guy, I think it's the National Lawyers,
00:42:36.540 or SPLC.
00:42:37.960 SPLC was in, yeah, Cop City.
00:42:39.560 So this is a guy who's like,
00:42:40.620 I'm just a legal observer there
00:42:42.500 with a group of people sharing the ideology
00:42:45.260 as they firebomb government property
00:42:47.160 and things like this.
00:42:48.100 And then they try and pretend I'm just a lawyer.
00:42:50.760 It's like, you maybe have an argument
00:42:53.120 if you said you were a journalist, okay?
00:42:55.400 Because-
00:42:56.160 That didn't work in the Capitol.
00:42:57.540 No, of course.
00:42:58.080 Just saying USA gets you sent to jail.
00:42:59.900 Right.
00:43:00.000 You look at what happened to Owen.
00:43:00.660 That's Stephen Horn.
00:43:01.280 Or look at what happened to Owen Troyer
00:43:03.140 just standing outside.
00:43:04.180 Not even in the building.
00:43:05.180 Yeah, not even in it.
00:43:05.580 Meanwhile, the guy who claims to have orchestrated.
00:43:07.680 But this is funny.
00:43:09.800 I remember I'm in Boston,
00:43:12.060 and you have left and right.
00:43:13.640 You had people on the quote-unquote
00:43:16.220 conservative side,
00:43:17.460 and they have no weapons.
00:43:19.940 They have shields.
00:43:21.020 On the Antifa side,
00:43:22.140 weapons, crowbars, baseball bats.
00:43:24.120 On the Antifa side,
00:43:25.320 they had two organizations,
00:43:27.680 including as legal observers,
00:43:30.060 the National Lawyers Guild,
00:43:30.980 and I think it might have been the ACLU.
00:43:32.140 I'm not sure.
00:43:33.000 It may have been a local chapter.
00:43:34.320 And I asked the NLG,
00:43:35.940 and I'm like,
00:43:36.480 your mission is to observe the police
00:43:38.400 for protesters.
00:43:39.160 How come you're only over here?
00:43:40.340 And they're like,
00:43:40.600 what do you mean?
00:43:41.440 And I was like,
00:43:41.760 well, there's protesters over there too.
00:43:43.780 Like, how come you guys aren't observing them?
00:43:45.320 And they're like,
00:43:46.780 I don't understand what you mean.
00:43:47.800 They had the Antifa radios in Portland.
00:43:50.180 So here's the thing that I saw.
00:43:52.040 And this is one of those things
00:43:53.160 you'll never be able to unsee.
00:43:54.320 I watched this lady.
00:43:55.480 She was very notable
00:43:56.440 because every single red-blooded male
00:43:58.440 that was on my team,
00:43:59.380 which was almost on my team,
00:44:00.820 recognized this lady.
00:44:02.000 She was walking around brawless.
00:44:03.260 She was large-breasted
00:44:04.520 and she was, you know,
00:44:05.900 bouncing around.
00:44:06.620 And so like,
00:44:07.000 you could see that in your mirror.
00:44:07.900 Like when you work in a car for a living
00:44:09.520 and all you do is watch people,
00:44:10.720 like someone walking with no bra,
00:44:12.500 that's like a double D
00:44:13.320 that's cruising around
00:44:14.500 like a hundred yards behind your car.
00:44:15.840 You'll be like,
00:44:16.260 what?
00:44:16.520 Like what's going on back there?
00:44:17.660 You'll just see it.
00:44:18.420 It's just, you can't help it.
00:44:19.480 This woman was picked up
00:44:20.600 by every single person.
00:44:21.680 She was writing down license plates.
00:44:23.260 She had one of the radios.
00:44:24.660 She was calling in the license plates.
00:44:26.360 She had the NLG hat
00:44:27.420 and it was a green NLG shirt.
00:44:29.140 That's the other thing.
00:44:29.660 She had a bright green shirt on,
00:44:30.900 which are, you know,
00:44:31.680 like a full screen shirt.
00:44:32.440 They have the neon hat.
00:44:33.500 She was actively recorded
00:44:35.140 calling in the license plates
00:44:36.960 for the security teams to respond to.
00:44:39.780 Right.
00:44:39.920 So we know there was coordination
00:44:41.080 that was happening
00:44:41.720 for people who are at least
00:44:42.680 wearing NLG gar.
00:44:43.880 And they're funded.
00:44:44.560 And we could see that
00:44:45.620 and the FBI has done zero about it.
00:44:47.400 You referred to the Antifa movement
00:44:50.000 as organized crime.
00:44:51.700 And I'm realizing
00:44:52.560 this is 21st century organized.
00:44:54.180 This is what organized crime
00:44:55.120 looks like in the 21st century
00:44:56.360 with social media,
00:44:57.300 with the ability to rally.
00:44:58.140 It looks exactly like
00:44:58.860 what the gangs do.
00:45:00.380 And, but it's like high tech
00:45:01.660 because they don't have
00:45:02.340 to be centralized.
00:45:03.060 It's decentralized.
00:45:04.180 Yeah.
00:45:04.440 So the people that run MS-13
00:45:06.040 are down in El Salvador.
00:45:07.440 The people that used to run
00:45:08.420 La Cosa Nostra,
00:45:09.660 you know, they used to be
00:45:10.420 back in the old country.
00:45:11.240 They were in Sicily.
00:45:11.820 This is standard.
00:45:12.560 It's actually not that new.
00:45:13.780 They just have different techniques.
00:45:14.800 They're using things
00:45:15.440 like social media
00:45:16.100 and they organize.
00:45:16.780 They're bringing in people
00:45:17.700 to cover for them.
00:45:18.520 Right.
00:45:18.920 But the way that it works,
00:45:20.120 it's pretty straightforward.
00:45:21.460 Like organized crime.
00:45:22.720 Now, what we call talk,
00:45:24.180 talk West and talk East.
00:45:25.420 These are the two different hemispheres
00:45:26.500 that we deal with organized crime.
00:45:28.380 They have a mission.
00:45:29.460 They have a motive.
00:45:30.760 They have a profit margin
00:45:31.600 that they're trying to accomplish.
00:45:32.840 Antifa is more ideological based.
00:45:34.340 I think, I think they're not less,
00:45:35.960 they're less interested
00:45:36.480 in making money out of it.
00:45:37.540 Although I'm sure some of them
00:45:38.340 do it for a living.
00:45:39.260 It's a cult.
00:45:40.420 It's there.
00:45:41.200 There are people that believe
00:45:42.300 in the things that were being done
00:45:43.520 in all organized crime.
00:45:44.440 And if you look at people
00:45:45.020 that are like part of the gang
00:45:46.200 that happened in the MS-13s,
00:45:47.900 the Latin Kings, you know,
00:45:49.460 the MA, you take your pick.
00:45:50.860 They all have like buy-in.
00:45:52.480 They have a culture.
00:45:53.360 They have, you know, foot soldiers.
00:45:54.800 There's people that know more.
00:45:55.680 There's people that have
00:45:56.120 more or less training.
00:45:56.880 And then they are more
00:45:57.960 or less decentralized,
00:45:58.620 whether it be at different prisons,
00:46:00.320 different cities.
00:46:01.100 There's what they call cliques.
00:46:02.240 That's how we organize MS-13 guys.
00:46:03.780 They call themselves a clique here
00:46:05.100 or a clique there.
00:46:05.740 The cliques have factions.
00:46:06.640 They fight.
00:46:07.060 I mean, it's what it looks like.
00:46:09.280 The assumption I would make
00:46:10.080 based on the arrests
00:46:11.700 that have taken place,
00:46:12.960 the prosecutions,
00:46:13.780 as well as the lack of enforcement
00:46:15.460 against certain obvious crimes
00:46:17.380 and extremists,
00:46:18.260 the assumption I would make
00:46:19.040 is that Antifa-aligned individuals
00:46:21.300 have reached high positions
00:46:22.780 in the FBI
00:46:23.340 and now are in a great deal of control.
00:46:26.080 Or the FBI sees it
00:46:27.820 as an opportunity
00:46:28.580 to allow for domestic unrest
00:46:30.440 so that they can get
00:46:31.380 more funding and militarize.
00:46:34.040 What do you guys think?
00:46:34.860 Yes, but to stop there,
00:46:36.800 to stop there,
00:46:38.220 my point is,
00:46:39.440 if they are enforcing
00:46:41.200 against the right
00:46:42.120 to a psychotic
00:46:43.380 and extreme degree,
00:46:44.580 along with other elements
00:46:46.220 of, you know,
00:46:47.340 like federal prosecutors,
00:46:49.680 it does not appear
00:46:50.740 to be simply,
00:46:51.840 we need domestic terror
00:46:52.860 to justify funding,
00:46:54.000 it is explicitly,
00:46:55.540 we're going to ignore
00:46:56.200 the terrorists over there
00:46:57.140 and target our political enemies.
00:46:58.720 Do you think it's because
00:46:59.320 it's like too much of a challenge
00:47:01.500 to go after Antifa?
00:47:02.740 Like sometimes organized crime,
00:47:04.540 they just won't go after
00:47:05.640 because it's too entrenched.
00:47:06.580 We followed all of them.
00:47:07.440 We followed them around.
00:47:08.480 We knew how they were.
00:47:08.800 So is it that the higher-ups
00:47:11.220 in the FBI
00:47:11.740 are ideologically aligned
00:47:13.900 with Antifa?
00:47:15.500 I think they're just
00:47:16.540 ideologically aligned
00:47:18.320 with the left in general.
00:47:20.460 Well, of course,
00:47:21.020 the Antifa being a loose structure
00:47:23.620 of various branded cells
00:47:25.140 that uphold the leftist
00:47:27.080 It's the military part of it, right?
00:47:28.620 Right, exactly.
00:47:29.120 I think you'd be hard-pressed
00:47:30.100 to find...
00:47:30.820 Until they got the FBI on board.
00:47:31.840 ...an FBI executive
00:47:32.700 who will come out
00:47:33.580 and say, you know,
00:47:35.660 whatever Antifa is saying
00:47:37.080 and stand behind that.
00:47:38.260 I mean, I don't think...
00:47:40.500 They do, though.
00:47:41.280 They say Antifa's an idea.
00:47:42.500 Yeah, they say it's an idea,
00:47:43.560 but they won't...
00:47:44.360 That's top cover.
00:47:45.300 They won't necessarily
00:47:45.980 back up the ideology
00:47:47.680 themselves out loud.
00:47:49.520 I mean, maybe you might
00:47:50.220 be able to find out...
00:47:50.640 But what is the ideology
00:47:51.500 of Antifa?
00:47:52.740 To destroy America
00:47:54.200 as we know it?
00:47:55.120 It's like...
00:47:56.000 Hates capitalism.
00:47:57.200 It's a political weapon.
00:47:59.000 And so if you are a tyrant
00:48:01.260 that wants control,
00:48:02.840 you can take a look
00:48:04.200 at what happens
00:48:04.740 in New York City.
00:48:05.860 Antifa shows up
00:48:06.860 to a Gavin McInnes
00:48:07.600 speaking event
00:48:08.160 Proud Boys
00:48:08.640 attacks random attendees
00:48:10.940 when the Proud Boys
00:48:12.260 are leaving
00:48:12.820 and surrounded
00:48:13.720 basically at every corner,
00:48:15.460 the Proud Boys
00:48:16.440 engage in a fight
00:48:17.800 with Antifa.
00:48:19.460 Charging full speed
00:48:20.280 at him saying,
00:48:20.720 all right, let's do this
00:48:21.220 or something like that.
00:48:22.860 When the police show up,
00:48:24.640 Antifa,
00:48:25.440 they're organized,
00:48:26.560 they have lawyers
00:48:27.220 and they have training,
00:48:28.620 refuse to cooperate
00:48:29.480 and leave.
00:48:30.140 And they have a bail fund.
00:48:31.060 And the Proud Boys
00:48:31.940 gladly explain
00:48:33.820 to the police
00:48:34.160 what happened
00:48:34.580 and then they get sentenced
00:48:35.800 to four years in prison.
00:48:36.860 So I think it's,
00:48:37.540 I think it's a bigger problem
00:48:38.800 than FBI agents
00:48:40.260 or FBI managers
00:48:42.300 are sympathetic.
00:48:43.860 I think that
00:48:44.460 as a general rule,
00:48:46.460 government employees
00:48:47.900 are sympathetic
00:48:48.460 to things
00:48:48.920 on the political left.
00:48:50.500 That's just the way
00:48:51.240 that it works.
00:48:51.720 If you work for the government
00:48:52.740 and you believe
00:48:53.260 in what you do,
00:48:53.900 then you believe
00:48:54.700 that like,
00:48:55.200 we need more taxes,
00:48:55.960 we need to be able
00:48:56.480 to fund my job.
00:48:57.220 Like, you know,
00:48:57.960 people,
00:48:58.400 there's a lot of
00:48:58.960 non-essential government workers.
00:49:00.360 We saw that in 2020.
00:49:01.240 They didn't go to work.
00:49:02.080 The traffic in DC
00:49:02.740 was fantastic.
00:49:03.560 I could drive
00:49:03.900 anywhere I wanted
00:49:04.500 and nothing changed
00:49:05.540 for any American citizen.
00:49:06.840 Nobody saw
00:49:07.440 a fundamental difference
00:49:08.460 in the way
00:49:08.780 that they experienced
00:49:09.460 the United States.
00:49:10.300 So that's big.
00:49:11.040 But if you'll give me
00:49:11.900 one second
00:49:12.340 to kind of like
00:49:12.960 get wider with this.
00:49:14.640 The idea that
00:49:15.680 that these people
00:49:16.960 are sympathetic to it,
00:49:18.480 it's dangerous
00:49:19.040 because we're hiring
00:49:19.800 more and more people
00:49:20.620 that have a more
00:49:21.500 and more college background.
00:49:23.080 They are educated,
00:49:23.940 but they are not
00:49:24.520 common sense intelligence.
00:49:26.020 The way the FBI has worked,
00:49:27.300 everyone thinks
00:49:27.780 that agents
00:49:28.260 are running the FBI.
00:49:29.860 Since I got in
00:49:30.780 and it goes way before then,
00:49:31.860 probably a decade
00:49:32.380 before I got there,
00:49:33.600 the agents association,
00:49:35.400 which is the group of
00:49:36.100 like you just pay your dues
00:49:37.440 and they will give you
00:49:38.220 like legal help,
00:49:38.900 which didn't help me at all.
00:49:40.100 But this group
00:49:40.920 has been basically saying
00:49:41.900 we want to move
00:49:42.680 the FBI agent role
00:49:44.280 back to the supreme rule
00:49:45.960 inside the agency.
00:49:47.080 We want to make
00:49:47.800 that the primary role
00:49:49.500 of the FBI.
00:49:51.340 And it is not.
00:49:52.080 The people that are running
00:49:52.800 the FBI are intelligence people.
00:49:54.500 Intelligence people
00:49:55.140 have two things
00:49:55.740 that are really scary.
00:49:56.420 Number one,
00:49:56.780 they think they're entitled
00:49:57.440 to information that's yours
00:49:58.580 and they don't need a warrant
00:49:59.780 and they don't think that way
00:50:00.600 because it's national security.
00:50:01.860 So and they don't need
00:50:02.980 a warrant, by the way,
00:50:03.620 to get stuff like that.
00:50:04.500 So warrantless searching
00:50:05.220 is a thing
00:50:05.840 under things like
00:50:06.920 FISA 702
00:50:08.280 and national security letters
00:50:09.840 and so on.
00:50:10.440 The second thing is
00:50:11.320 is they spend a lot of time
00:50:12.280 in university.
00:50:12.820 They get people that have
00:50:13.500 not just bachelors
00:50:14.380 but master's degrees
00:50:15.120 and PhDs,
00:50:16.240 advanced training
00:50:16.900 inside the university system,
00:50:18.200 which is ideologically captured.
00:50:20.160 And so when you have people
00:50:20.800 that are ideologically captured
00:50:21.900 to the political left,
00:50:24.080 Antifa may be extreme for them,
00:50:26.480 but it's not outside
00:50:27.200 of the wheelhouse
00:50:27.640 for them to support
00:50:28.240 what they're about.
00:50:28.920 So they're not going
00:50:29.300 to do it overtly ever,
00:50:30.140 as Garrett just said.
00:50:30.720 And they're going
00:50:30.980 to say something like,
00:50:32.020 oh, but those protesters
00:50:32.780 are fighting for justice.
00:50:33.940 They're protecting our democracy.
00:50:36.140 Yeah, what was it
00:50:36.880 in 2020?
00:50:38.340 If they were going
00:50:39.080 out to protest
00:50:40.040 for George Floyd,
00:50:42.180 that was part
00:50:43.280 of the overall
00:50:44.340 health care measure.
00:50:46.300 Go ahead and do that.
00:50:46.860 Actually,
00:50:47.380 the Colorado Sun
00:50:48.140 said it lowered
00:50:49.080 COVID rates
00:50:49.860 that you were protesting.
00:50:50.660 But if you were protesting
00:50:51.600 against lockdowns,
00:50:52.260 you were making it worse.
00:50:52.840 Yeah, imagine if you
00:50:53.380 were protesting
00:50:53.780 against masks.
00:50:54.780 You were obviously
00:50:55.200 so we got swatted
00:50:57.180 a lot.
00:50:59.040 Well, I want to be
00:51:00.280 I want to be careful
00:51:00.840 because let me
00:51:02.080 let me explain
00:51:02.600 to everybody
00:51:02.920 what we're talking about.
00:51:04.060 We have had
00:51:05.200 security instances
00:51:06.440 15 times.
00:51:08.720 And I'm saying
00:51:09.880 that vaguely
00:51:10.360 because everybody
00:51:12.120 assumes swatting
00:51:14.220 means cops
00:51:14.880 kick our door
00:51:15.460 in and raid the house.
00:51:17.140 Swatting is when
00:51:17.700 someone calls
00:51:19.000 the police
00:51:19.600 or the feds
00:51:20.460 or law enforcement
00:51:21.180 says there's a
00:51:22.720 falsely claims
00:51:24.340 of crime is occurring
00:51:25.040 to cause a police response.
00:51:27.160 It does not mean
00:51:28.120 a SWAT team
00:51:28.660 kicks your door down.
00:51:30.220 So after the
00:51:31.840 like second or third time,
00:51:33.820 you know,
00:51:34.120 the first time they come
00:51:34.920 they come in the building.
00:51:35.980 I got mad and said
00:51:36.920 you have no right
00:51:37.320 to come in here
00:51:37.680 and they said
00:51:37.880 they called it
00:51:38.220 exigent circumstances
00:51:39.140 and I said
00:51:39.700 no, it's not
00:51:40.380 based off
00:51:40.900 on an anonymous tip.
00:51:42.020 No, and the fact
00:51:43.680 that we're doing
00:51:44.020 a live broadcast
00:51:44.840 at the time
00:51:45.280 it's like get out of here.
00:51:46.720 But I said
00:51:47.500 I can respect
00:51:47.960 that you guys responded
00:51:48.800 as quickly as you did.
00:51:49.600 We appreciate the security
00:51:50.660 but at this point
00:51:51.960 we have all the employees
00:51:53.520 the show is live right now.
00:51:54.700 There's no reason
00:51:55.140 for you to come in
00:51:55.740 and you should have asked
00:51:56.400 blah, blah, blah.
00:51:57.060 And also
00:51:57.660 it is my legal obligation
00:51:58.920 to inform the police
00:51:59.880 they are not welcome
00:52:00.500 onto my property
00:52:01.500 without a warrant.
00:52:02.700 What ends up happening
00:52:03.560 is the next several times
00:52:04.900 it is not the police
00:52:07.080 coming into the building.
00:52:07.780 However,
00:52:08.300 we received a credible
00:52:09.280 bomb threat
00:52:09.860 and I can't explain
00:52:12.040 how it came to be
00:52:12.940 but we end up getting
00:52:13.820 three,
00:52:14.840 like for three hours
00:52:15.660 we're all outside waiting
00:52:16.760 and the cameras
00:52:17.600 are just live
00:52:18.080 on the empty room
00:52:18.800 with 50,000 people
00:52:19.680 watching an empty room.
00:52:21.100 They come in
00:52:21.460 with dogs
00:52:22.000 and they sweep the place.
00:52:22.700 In total
00:52:24.060 we had 15 instances
00:52:25.420 of death threats
00:52:26.980 which resulted
00:52:27.700 in a police response.
00:52:29.160 Some of them
00:52:29.540 were the bomb squad.
00:52:31.020 Some of them
00:52:31.540 were men with rifles
00:52:32.460 coming to a private property
00:52:34.660 that I own elsewhere
00:52:35.460 that no one has
00:52:37.200 the access to,
00:52:38.180 no one knows
00:52:38.480 the address of.
00:52:39.540 So there's
00:52:40.460 certain techniques
00:52:41.380 that people engage in
00:52:42.360 to obfuscate properties
00:52:43.520 that belong to them
00:52:44.540 so that you can't
00:52:45.180 search the records
00:52:45.720 for them
00:52:46.160 and somehow
00:52:47.220 and I think
00:52:47.960 we think we know how
00:52:48.920 one of these properties
00:52:51.500 got swatted.
00:52:52.700 We gave the information
00:52:54.440 to,
00:52:56.100 my understanding
00:52:56.940 is it went to the FBI,
00:52:58.640 it went to the Postal
00:52:59.560 Investigative Service
00:53:00.260 because packages were sent
00:53:01.480 and it went to
00:53:03.340 local sheriff's departments
00:53:04.860 and police departments,
00:53:06.380 multiple agencies,
00:53:07.860 no resolution,
00:53:09.360 nothing.
00:53:10.420 And when our security team
00:53:12.260 This is my shocked face
00:53:13.180 by the way.
00:53:13.800 When our security
00:53:14.280 security team reached out
00:53:15.440 and asked like
00:53:16.180 how is it that you can have
00:53:17.100 16 guys with rifles?
00:53:18.960 I think it was,
00:53:19.460 I don't know if it was,
00:53:20.140 I think it was like 16 guys
00:53:21.060 showed up to one property
00:53:22.260 with rifles
00:53:22.860 going across the property
00:53:24.500 sweeping through the windows
00:53:25.680 and everything.
00:53:26.580 Lights are all off,
00:53:27.200 literally no one's there.
00:53:28.220 And they were like
00:53:29.160 how have we not gotten
00:53:30.520 any information?
00:53:31.620 We've provided information.
00:53:32.900 We in fact
00:53:33.640 think we have strong evidence
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00:55:00.440 Did I mention
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00:55:01.900 Never
00:55:04.700 was anything done.
00:55:07.040 In another instance,
00:55:08.240 we have direct evidence
00:55:09.440 and admission of guilt
00:55:11.200 of a felony committed
00:55:12.400 against one of our associates,
00:55:15.560 admission of guilt,
00:55:17.260 public justification
00:55:18.320 of why the felony
00:55:19.200 was committed,
00:55:20.980 and
00:55:21.160 Matt,
00:55:22.520 like,
00:55:22.960 I'm trying to be
00:55:23.620 very vague here for,
00:55:24.820 but
00:55:25.000 theft of
00:55:27.400 intellectual property,
00:55:29.660 identity theft,
00:55:30.480 felony activity
00:55:31.920 on the record,
00:55:33.020 tracked digitally
00:55:33.760 with a public admission,
00:55:35.480 and they said,
00:55:36.820 not interested.
00:55:38.700 And I'm just like,
00:55:39.400 how is this,
00:55:40.540 how is this the case?
00:55:41.660 That we can actually
00:55:42.360 have someone
00:55:43.060 gloat
00:55:44.000 over their ideology
00:55:45.040 and why they committed
00:55:45.740 a felony
00:55:46.160 against one of our associates,
00:55:48.880 provably,
00:55:50.700 I,
00:55:50.900 I,
00:55:51.140 I,
00:55:51.320 man,
00:55:51.720 I,
00:55:51.920 I gotta,
00:55:52.700 I gotta be careful.
00:55:53.440 They've gone towards intelligence.
00:55:54.700 Intelligence people do not
00:55:55.560 want to give you information.
00:55:56.600 And you're,
00:55:56.840 no,
00:55:56.920 no,
00:55:57.040 no,
00:55:57.140 but I'm saying,
00:55:57.720 you're the wrong type of victim.
00:55:59.440 Exactly.
00:56:00.240 I'm like,
00:56:00.860 here's an open and shut case.
00:56:01.980 They admitted they did it.
00:56:03.140 And here,
00:56:03.760 here are the victims.
00:56:04.560 We have,
00:56:04.960 we have 12 victims
00:56:05.880 of this felony,
00:56:07.180 identity theft,
00:56:07.920 et cetera,
00:56:08.400 and a public justification
00:56:09.640 for ideological reasons.
00:56:11.380 And they were,
00:56:12.100 and they said,
00:56:13.020 that's,
00:56:13.400 we don't care.
00:56:14.160 Not,
00:56:14.420 not a banded threat
00:56:15.260 as we would call it.
00:56:16.100 But,
00:56:16.420 but,
00:56:16.580 but we're talking about Antifa.
00:56:18.880 So,
00:56:19.420 again,
00:56:19.820 I gotta be very,
00:56:20.420 I'm trying to be very careful.
00:56:21.740 We're talking about active Antifa ideologues,
00:56:24.360 part of active cells
00:56:25.880 who have publicly admitted
00:56:27.160 to committing felonies.
00:56:28.580 And they said,
00:56:29.520 not interested.
00:56:30.360 Garrett should explain to you
00:56:31.160 how,
00:56:31.400 how threats get banded
00:56:32.400 and why that wouldn't be on it.
00:56:33.740 Yeah.
00:56:34.040 First though,
00:56:34.580 I'm gonna,
00:56:35.380 so my faith is a huge part of,
00:56:37.500 uh,
00:56:37.760 what has kind of led me down this road as well.
00:56:40.080 And,
00:56:40.500 uh,
00:56:40.860 Isaiah 10 one says,
00:56:42.020 woe to those who enact evil statutes
00:56:43.900 and to those who constantly record unjust decisions.
00:56:46.980 And I think we're in a very similar era
00:56:49.300 where our government,
00:56:50.620 our law enforcement,
00:56:51.860 that's an unjust decision
00:56:53.660 and an evil statute that they're,
00:56:55.480 if they decide not to enforce something
00:56:57.120 that you have all that type of proof of,
00:56:58.980 that's wickedness and evil.
00:57:01.060 And that is something everyone should be
00:57:04.220 waving the red flag about
00:57:06.420 and saying,
00:57:06.940 this needs to end.
00:57:08.260 This needs to be fixed now.
00:57:09.520 It's,
00:57:10.000 it's supposed to be,
00:57:11.260 we're all supposed to be equally protected
00:57:13.660 under our laws.
00:57:14.860 It's clear we are not,
00:57:16.100 you know,
00:57:16.260 just the other day,
00:57:17.120 Merrick Garland is,
00:57:17.960 is testifying and saying,
00:57:19.560 you know,
00:57:19.820 basically screaming about how
00:57:21.980 we do not have a two tiered system
00:57:23.900 and we are not out to target
00:57:26.020 any,
00:57:26.860 you know,
00:57:28.100 specific sector of society.
00:57:30.280 Unless you're Catholic
00:57:30.900 and you like the Latin.
00:57:31.680 Right.
00:57:31.960 It's,
00:57:32.140 it's,
00:57:32.420 if anybody who's truly paying attention,
00:57:34.700 I mean,
00:57:35.440 you can't believe anything that
00:57:36.840 Merrick Garland,
00:57:38.200 Christopher Wray,
00:57:39.760 Joe Biden,
00:57:41.240 nothing they're saying is true.
00:57:43.020 I mean,
00:57:43.300 it's,
00:57:43.820 it's evilness incarnate.
00:57:44.980 Let me give you a concrete example.
00:57:46.500 When I was working in Las Cruces,
00:57:47.800 New Mexico,
00:57:48.320 so that's where I was working.
00:57:49.260 I was working under the Albuquerque field office.
00:57:51.020 We got the directives.
00:57:51.980 I got moved to a national security squad
00:57:53.560 because they thought I was a threat.
00:57:55.060 They called me an insider threat,
00:57:56.280 which is like a spy or a traitor.
00:57:57.900 And so instead of working on an Indian reservation
00:57:59.740 where I couldn't bother anybody,
00:58:00.600 they moved me to the national security squad.
00:58:03.200 Like I found out after the fact,
00:58:04.580 it was the funniest thing that ever happened to me.
00:58:06.020 So I'm sitting there,
00:58:06.700 by the way,
00:58:06.940 I didn't have the clearances at that point
00:58:08.120 because I got read out.
00:58:08.900 So I'm sitting on the squad doing nothing.
00:58:10.340 I'm reading up.
00:58:11.060 They're like,
00:58:11.380 oh yeah,
00:58:11.620 you're going to be working counterterrorism cases,
00:58:13.540 whatever.
00:58:13.860 It's like,
00:58:14.180 great.
00:58:15.480 Awful.
00:58:15.920 Like it's the worst thing for me.
00:58:17.200 And I'm reading.
00:58:18.020 So I'm boning up on what's going on.
00:58:21.980 It takes out a list of threats that are predicated
00:58:25.020 across the entire country,
00:58:25.920 what they call the threat landscape.
00:58:27.160 And there's analysts that their job,
00:58:29.320 their indoor dogs,
00:58:30.060 all they do is they like,
00:58:30.780 you know,
00:58:30.960 write term papers for a living
00:58:31.920 and then they get paid by the FBI.
00:58:33.560 And they're writing what they think the threats are
00:58:35.580 across the country.
00:58:37.260 They send that to the field office,
00:58:38.740 Albuquerque in particular,
00:58:39.620 in my case.
00:58:40.380 And they say,
00:58:41.200 how do you rank them?
00:58:42.860 We rank this one,
00:58:43.620 two,
00:58:43.800 three,
00:58:43.920 four,
00:58:44.060 five,
00:58:44.220 six,
00:58:44.340 seven,
00:58:44.460 eight,
00:58:44.540 nine,
00:58:44.680 10.
00:58:45.060 And the top thing is a tier one threat.
00:58:46.600 This is a banded two threat.
00:58:47.580 This is a banded three threat.
00:58:48.460 This is an unbanded threat.
00:58:49.460 Okay.
00:58:50.360 How do you see it in your area?
00:58:51.920 Because let's say that,
00:58:52.980 um,
00:58:53.520 white supremacists are a tier one threat in New York
00:58:56.240 city.
00:58:56.480 I don't know.
00:58:57.140 And then you go to Las Cruces and you're like,
00:58:59.120 well,
00:58:59.200 we don't really have any white supremacists out
00:59:00.500 here.
00:59:00.720 So it's an unbanded threat for us locally.
00:59:02.800 So it's a national priority,
00:59:03.840 but it's an unbanded local.
00:59:05.460 The number three banded threat under the
00:59:07.840 counter-terrorism guys was anti-abortion
00:59:09.860 protesters that were violent extremists.
00:59:12.480 There were two abortion clinics in the state of
00:59:14.640 New Mexico in 2021.
00:59:16.140 When I was sitting there,
00:59:17.120 one of them was a surgical facility in
00:59:18.880 Albuquerque.
00:59:19.340 The other was a pill mill in Anthony,
00:59:21.080 which is like a tiny little town that nobody
00:59:22.360 lives in near El Paso.
00:59:23.860 That was the number three priority of the
00:59:26.260 counter-terrorism team to be looking into for
00:59:27.880 ideology,
00:59:28.700 anti-abortion violent extremists.
00:59:30.520 Do you know how many anti-abortion violent
00:59:31.740 extremists have bombed or done anything in the
00:59:34.040 last like 30 years in New Mexico?
00:59:35.860 Zero.
00:59:36.380 Yeah.
00:59:36.580 It's none.
00:59:37.140 Yeah.
00:59:37.560 Because it doesn't exist.
00:59:38.300 I think nationally.
00:59:38.980 So they investigated some ladies who were
00:59:40.620 Catholic that were praying outside of the
00:59:43.440 abortion clinic and went down and sent two
00:59:45.120 agents to go interview them.
00:59:46.260 Their entire purpose for being there.
00:59:48.000 They owned a,
00:59:48.900 uh,
00:59:49.220 an ultrasound mobile ultrasound unit,
00:59:51.560 which is expensive.
00:59:52.320 And they would try to talk women who were coming in to
00:59:54.380 get an abortion to have an ultrasound for free and
00:59:58.580 see their baby and not kill the baby.
01:00:00.560 That's what they were there for.
01:00:01.660 That was the only reason that they were there and they
01:00:03.840 were investigated.
01:00:04.560 And there was another guy who was a little bit
01:00:05.940 unhinged.
01:00:06.300 And his thing was,
01:00:07.000 is he would walk around with like this like costume of
01:00:09.360 babies that were like,
01:00:10.280 uh,
01:00:10.460 like,
01:00:10.860 uh,
01:00:11.000 dolls and they were spray painted red and they were
01:00:13.140 hanging around his neck from like fake umbilical
01:00:14.740 cords,
01:00:15.100 which is a little bit outlandish,
01:00:16.220 but he walked around on the sidewalk and there was no
01:00:17.980 allegation of violence.
01:00:18.840 And that's what they came down and investigated because
01:00:20.840 that was the number three threat.
01:00:22.780 There've been church bombings in New Mexico that have
01:00:24.420 never been solved.
01:00:25.540 Just the,
01:00:25.860 the,
01:00:26.040 the,
01:00:26.280 the crisis centers that were attacked.
01:00:28.280 One was nearby,
01:00:29.160 but it was dark.
01:00:30.640 Merrick Garland already told us why they could,
01:00:32.280 it was dark,
01:00:33.020 you know,
01:00:33.280 and,
01:00:33.660 and it's hard to find people in the dark to be fair.
01:00:36.260 It is,
01:00:36.840 it is,
01:00:37.300 it is hard when it came to,
01:00:38.720 uh,
01:00:39.180 January 20th,
01:00:39.900 2017 Antifa,
01:00:41.740 they're organized.
01:00:42.780 They said everyone wear black hoodies and masks and,
01:00:45.600 and black jeans,
01:00:46.920 they all blocked up black block.
01:00:48.600 They call it that way.
01:00:49.880 It makes it impossible for,
01:00:51.640 uh,
01:00:52.080 it makes it,
01:00:52.560 it makes it inevitable.
01:00:53.340 There is reasonable doubt in a,
01:00:54.880 in a court of law.
01:00:55.920 So what happens is for a lot of these criminal proceedings,
01:00:58.220 the lawyers,
01:00:59.880 they love this.
01:01:00.780 They say,
01:01:01.260 how do you know?
01:01:02.740 It is my client that threw the brick.
01:01:04.680 I was like,
01:01:04.920 I clearly saw him.
01:01:05.760 What was he wearing?
01:01:06.360 He was wearing a black hoodie,
01:01:07.480 black jeans,
01:01:08.020 and he had a black mask on.
01:01:09.780 Like how many other people were wearing black hoodies,
01:01:12.180 black jeans,
01:01:12.620 and black masks?
01:01:13.660 200,
01:01:14.140 300.
01:01:14.720 So is it possible you,
01:01:15.960 you singled out the wrong individual for arrest?
01:01:17.960 No,
01:01:18.260 I saw him do it and I grabbed an arrest at him.
01:01:19.900 You're absolutely certain with all those people there.
01:01:22.180 And then they go to,
01:01:22.880 they look at the jury and say,
01:01:23.880 do you believe that?
01:01:25.060 And the jury's like,
01:01:26.120 yeah,
01:01:26.440 it's possible he grabbed the wrong guy.
01:01:28.420 Now the,
01:01:29.100 the cop,
01:01:30.000 it's going to be like,
01:01:30.600 he threw it.
01:01:31.320 And I immediately grabbed him,
01:01:32.540 but reasonable doubt exists for the jury.
01:01:34.720 When they're going to say,
01:01:35.620 I don't know if I saw a crowd of 300 people,
01:01:38.540 all wearing the exact same thing.
01:01:39.740 And that's all the defense has to do.
01:01:41.340 And this is how they get them.
01:01:42.380 And if you do your job right though,
01:01:42.620 you can do that.
01:01:43.320 So my kid that I arrested at the Disrupt J20.
01:01:46.260 So there is the reason.
01:01:47.340 I saw three people that were standing next to each other
01:01:49.980 and a laser went up
01:01:50.760 and I had a pretty good idea who it was.
01:01:52.560 Right?
01:01:53.060 So you go,
01:01:53.680 okay,
01:01:53.920 well,
01:01:54.060 it's one of those three.
01:01:55.160 That would be reasonable doubt.
01:01:56.220 A hundred percent.
01:01:56.860 Yep.
01:01:57.120 So we followed him
01:01:57.960 because that's what you do.
01:01:58.880 If you're really good at this,
01:01:59.620 you walk those,
01:02:00.240 you walk him and he walked
01:02:01.560 and then he slipped the laser pointer out again.
01:02:03.520 And then he fired it into a cop's windshield
01:02:05.460 who was driving into,
01:02:06.400 driving past him.
01:02:07.440 Wow.
01:02:07.700 And I was like,
01:02:08.340 got it.
01:02:08.680 I saw the light come from his hand.
01:02:10.400 I saw exactly which one of those three it was.
01:02:12.260 Then we honed in on him.
01:02:13.740 Then we walked in
01:02:14.660 and I knew where the laser pointer was.
01:02:15.860 It was on his right,
01:02:16.480 right sleeve.
01:02:17.320 Then we followed him
01:02:18.200 and he went into a falafel place.
01:02:19.300 I think he was a little bit drunk too
01:02:20.180 because he'd been out there all day partying
01:02:21.280 and being an asshole.
01:02:22.820 So we go,
01:02:23.280 we follow him into the falafel place.
01:02:24.440 And when he comes back out,
01:02:25.160 he tries to get away from my buddy
01:02:26.100 who was a secret service agent
01:02:27.040 and then me.
01:02:27.720 And then we go and we frisk him
01:02:28.760 and sure enough,
01:02:29.420 there it is.
01:02:29.840 There's the laser pointer.
01:02:30.720 See,
01:02:30.920 that is how you lock somebody down into the story
01:02:32.640 because it's like,
01:02:33.140 not only could I not have missed,
01:02:34.260 he had a device that was used.
01:02:35.900 If you found the person with the brick,
01:02:37.640 I saw two bricks.
01:02:38.620 He threw one.
01:02:39.260 The other one was in his left hand.
01:02:40.300 I grabbed him.
01:02:40.780 He had the left hand.
01:02:41.780 Then you get it.
01:02:42.060 So when it comes to laser pointers,
01:02:43.900 I'm not going to explain how,
01:02:45.820 but there is a technique activists are trained on
01:02:47.740 to make it so that you can't see
01:02:48.960 where the laser is emitted from.
01:02:50.520 Yeah.
01:02:50.940 And it's not complicated,
01:02:52.900 but.
01:02:53.460 I saw it happen.
01:02:54.500 No,
01:02:54.700 I know.
01:02:54.940 It's like,
01:02:55.300 there's two points where you can see
01:02:57.680 a laser pointer,
01:02:58.700 emission and contact.
01:03:00.280 Yeah.
01:03:00.400 And they are.
01:03:00.880 Unless there's a tree.
01:03:02.200 But they're,
01:03:02.920 right.
01:03:03.740 Or if there's fog or you can,
01:03:05.560 then you can see,
01:03:05.980 then if it's,
01:03:06.920 if it's a.
01:03:07.360 Or tear gas.
01:03:08.340 Yep.
01:03:08.680 Then the refraction of the.
01:03:10.240 A mirror.
01:03:11.120 No,
01:03:11.440 no.
01:03:11.700 In order to track where it comes from,
01:03:13.420 you need something in the,
01:03:14.860 in the atmosphere that will refract the light,
01:03:16.440 causing the beam to become visible.
01:03:18.000 But these activists are trained on a very simple technique
01:03:21.280 on how to make it so that you can't look at a person
01:03:25.020 when they're.
01:03:25.900 So it's,
01:03:26.380 I don't want to say too much,
01:03:27.360 but they're,
01:03:27.660 they're given training on how to obfuscate this stuff.
01:03:29.560 When it came to,
01:03:30.600 uh,
01:03:30.840 J 20,
01:03:32.500 2017,
01:03:34.000 the police could not identify
01:03:37.180 who are smashing the windows,
01:03:39.040 who are setting the fires
01:03:40.280 because they're all dressed the same.
01:03:41.960 And so what happens is in this big cluster,
01:03:44.560 someone will stand in the middle and do something.
01:03:46.280 And there's literally no way.
01:03:48.220 So what the police end up doing is they,
01:03:50.760 we call it kettling.
01:03:51.720 I don't know what you guys call it.
01:03:52.880 They pull out a net.
01:03:54.020 They create a barricade.
01:03:55.240 I don't know if they did a net.
01:03:56.400 They surround,
01:03:57.180 uh,
01:03:57.600 the street with police.
01:03:59.260 I tried getting out of the way.
01:04:00.800 I'm there filming.
01:04:01.600 I'm a journalist.
01:04:02.120 I have press credentials and everything.
01:04:03.260 And so as everyone's running through the street,
01:04:05.100 I move left to a side of a building.
01:04:07.320 And I try to let them pass me by all the,
01:04:10.420 all the,
01:04:10.780 the rioters swarm around me.
01:04:13.180 And I'm like,
01:04:13.900 son of a,
01:04:14.820 and then the police form a barricade.
01:04:16.080 I ended up getting arrested.
01:04:17.680 They,
01:04:18.140 uh,
01:04:18.440 people on the right and the left have this hard on for saying,
01:04:21.360 I never got arrested for some insane reason.
01:04:23.900 I was informed no less than three times by the police that were there,
01:04:27.100 including the supervisor that I'd been placed under arrest.
01:04:28.800 And I was not free to leave.
01:04:29.820 I was not detained.
01:04:30.720 I was arrested.
01:04:31.640 I was not processed.
01:04:33.160 And a local,
01:04:33.940 uh,
01:04:34.420 a reporter contacted,
01:04:36.660 called their boss.
01:04:37.700 They said,
01:04:38.320 we're going to put in a word to the police department and get you out of this
01:04:40.800 arrest.
01:04:41.680 I told,
01:04:42.600 uh,
01:04:42.800 I asked for a supervisor,
01:04:44.160 the cops all surrounding us stone faced saying nothing.
01:04:46.960 And I said,
01:04:47.480 I'm a journalist.
01:04:48.180 Here's my press credentials.
01:04:48.920 Can I speak with a supervisor?
01:04:49.900 And then one cop goes like that.
01:04:51.580 And there's a guy and say,
01:04:52.440 excuse me,
01:04:52.920 sir.
01:04:53.460 And he walks over as name was Lieutenant Washington.
01:04:55.140 And I said,
01:04:55.880 just want to let you know I'm a journalist.
01:04:57.480 And I hear my press credentials.
01:04:59.020 He goes,
01:04:59.140 doesn't matter.
01:04:59.600 You're under arrest.
01:05:00.160 I'm like,
01:05:00.360 that's totally fine.
01:05:01.220 But it's my duty to inform you.
01:05:02.600 Thank you,
01:05:02.940 sir.
01:05:03.800 After like,
01:05:04.540 there's a big difference between being arrested and being charged.
01:05:06.720 Exactly.
01:05:07.360 And so there's detained,
01:05:08.640 there's,
01:05:09.060 you are detained.
01:05:09.760 You are being questioned.
01:05:10.680 You are being arrested.
01:05:11.520 Yep.
01:05:11.820 We were all under arrest.
01:05:13.220 You're not free to leave.
01:05:14.400 However,
01:05:14.720 I did get released along with several other journalists.
01:05:16.940 Eventually he came back over and he says,
01:05:18.560 which one is the journalist and the news crew with the big camera wave.
01:05:22.320 They're the ones who called it in.
01:05:23.760 And he goes,
01:05:24.440 pull them out.
01:05:25.260 And I was like,
01:05:26.340 Lieutenant Washington.
01:05:27.080 He goes,
01:05:27.520 him too.
01:05:28.560 Because I had politely asked him,
01:05:30.260 you know,
01:05:30.540 he knew I had informed him.
01:05:31.860 You set up the,
01:05:32.280 you set up the parameters for that.
01:05:33.700 I'm like,
01:05:34.100 look,
01:05:34.360 if I get arrested,
01:05:34.940 I get arrested,
01:05:35.500 but I'm at,
01:05:36.060 it is my obligation to make sure they're aware.
01:05:38.040 And then they can do whatever they want after the fact.
01:05:39.620 Cause when it comes to court,
01:05:40.460 I'm going to say,
01:05:40.980 I did inform the officers of a journalist.
01:05:42.480 Here's my protest.
01:05:43.020 He pulls me out.
01:05:44.180 But my point is ultimately this.
01:05:46.420 That there,
01:05:46.940 well,
01:05:47.160 I'll add this to some of the lefty journalists who are clearly antifa and far left
01:05:51.160 the line were screaming to the point of spitting in the face of these
01:05:54.780 officers.
01:05:55.540 How dare you arrest me?
01:05:56.540 I'm a journalist.
01:05:57.600 And now you ain't getting out.
01:05:58.960 And so these journalists were saying things like,
01:06:00.940 how did Tim pool get released from the,
01:06:02.920 from the arrest or whatever?
01:06:03.800 And I'm like,
01:06:04.120 you were polite.
01:06:04.560 That's what they always tell you.
01:06:05.500 I'm professional.
01:06:06.080 I'm,
01:06:06.280 I'm here doing my job.
01:06:07.300 It is what it is.
01:06:07.980 If I,
01:06:08.220 do you ever see John Stewart do his routine about the,
01:06:09.900 the,
01:06:10.220 he did a whole bit about the,
01:06:11.900 the Vietnam press journalist who's,
01:06:13.440 who's screaming mother effort.
01:06:14.860 I'm professional.
01:06:15.660 Right.
01:06:16.120 Right.
01:06:16.220 Cause they're shooting bombs near him.
01:06:17.420 So,
01:06:17.680 so what ends up happening for all these guys that are arrested,
01:06:20.880 they charged all of them with conspiracy because the police couldn't
01:06:24.500 identify a single individual.
01:06:26.540 They correctly,
01:06:28.080 in my opinion,
01:06:28.900 the federal government was correct to say these individuals conspired to riot
01:06:33.660 and cause damage in Washington,
01:06:35.240 D.C.
01:06:35.560 That's what a conspiracy should look like.
01:06:37.220 Yes.
01:06:37.680 You actually participated in it as well.
01:06:39.240 They were told what to wear.
01:06:40.360 They're giving briefings.
01:06:41.860 There,
01:06:42.320 there is no reasonable argument that they did not realize what they were doing.
01:06:45.520 And they are executing tactics as a unit.
01:06:47.320 Yep.
01:06:47.960 However,
01:06:48.940 the jury,
01:06:49.560 it's a D.C.
01:06:50.080 Jury,
01:06:50.580 right?
01:06:50.880 Yeah.
01:06:51.020 95% positive.
01:06:52.220 So I'll,
01:06:52.540 I'll put it out.
01:06:53.220 I'll put it out.
01:06:53.840 All the,
01:06:54.220 there was a few people who pleaded guilty and that was,
01:06:56.380 and their lawyer said,
01:06:57.020 you're making a mistake.
01:06:57.640 Don't do this.
01:06:58.200 You're going to win.
01:06:59.280 95% of the individuals,
01:07:00.640 there was like 217 had the charges dropped.
01:07:02.900 Despite the fact they engaged in a criminal conspiracy to destroy and riot and,
01:07:06.880 and wanted to disrupt the inauguration of Donald Trump in the capital,
01:07:09.860 the United States,
01:07:10.580 in the capital,
01:07:10.980 all places.
01:07:11.600 So you have people who coordinated a tactic to obfuscate their identities,
01:07:16.120 to cause destruction damage in what I would describe as a very pathetic insurrection.
01:07:21.860 It was weak.
01:07:22.660 And they get no charges.
01:07:23.680 Not only that,
01:07:24.640 but the city of D.C.
01:07:25.820 lost a lawsuit and was forced to pay them out millions of dollars.
01:07:28.620 It's crazy.
01:07:29.460 Can we,
01:07:29.800 Portland,
01:07:29.960 the same thing.
01:07:30.380 Can we give some free advice to,
01:07:31.860 to,
01:07:32.320 to your audience?
01:07:32.900 I think between Garrett and I,
01:07:33.920 we could probably crowd between the two of us.
01:07:35.420 We could source just,
01:07:36.480 uh,
01:07:37.020 how not to get caught up into that because people are getting caught up in this web.
01:07:40.440 You mentioned that,
01:07:41.500 uh,
01:07:41.700 the sort of the tactic of going after domestic violent extremists,
01:07:44.220 domestic terrorists,
01:07:44.860 the way that they do it,
01:07:45.720 they,
01:07:45.960 they grab people.
01:07:46.640 It's morally equivalent to entrapment.
01:07:48.280 That's the way I call it.
01:07:49.200 It's morally equivalent.
01:07:50.360 If you saw it,
01:07:50.920 you'd go,
01:07:51.300 that's entrapment legally.
01:07:52.380 It's not right.
01:07:53.200 They can get away.
01:07:53.860 They skirt the boundaries because that's the way the DOJ.
01:07:55.820 Entrapment requires coercion.
01:07:57.340 We can give you a,
01:07:58.740 a real simple way to avoid this.
01:08:00.460 And,
01:08:00.620 and,
01:08:00.900 and your audience will laugh about how stupid this is,
01:08:02.760 but it's so simple.
01:08:03.820 Um,
01:08:04.340 you want to,
01:08:04.720 you want to give the,
01:08:05.220 the original,
01:08:05.700 uh,
01:08:06.060 recruiting idea,
01:08:06.740 how that comes up FBI or whoever will see some post or something you did online,
01:08:14.060 or maybe even on Xbox live or whatever.
01:08:16.800 And they'll hear you talking and let's say,
01:08:18.720 ah,
01:08:19.040 there's my mark.
01:08:20.080 And then they'll comment.
01:08:22.280 They'll try to build up a friendship with you online.
01:08:25.200 And eventually they will bump you more and more and more to,
01:08:29.020 to try to coerce you into doing something more.
01:08:32.680 And,
01:08:33.140 uh,
01:08:33.760 usually if they agree with,
01:08:35.140 if someone online agrees with every idea you have,
01:08:37.780 especially your worst and stupidest violent ones.
01:08:39.520 Yeah.
01:08:39.740 Yeah.
01:08:40.400 Uh,
01:08:41.160 they're probably a fed.
01:08:42.160 There's another piece to it though.
01:08:43.800 Cause people kind of know that.
01:08:44.560 Okay.
01:08:44.740 So it's like,
01:08:45.220 they agree with your,
01:08:45.900 your,
01:08:46.220 your worst ideas.
01:08:48.060 They encourage them.
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01:10:23.560 I use this absurd example all the time.
01:10:25.460 Let's say that Ian decided he's,
01:10:28.560 he's breaking bad.
01:10:29.760 He's filling the ammo can and he's going to go do some real violence.
01:10:33.000 And he's like,
01:10:33.480 what we need to do is take down the government.
01:10:35.220 They've been infringing our free.
01:10:36.200 They're going to make us do,
01:10:37.040 you know,
01:10:37.440 some kind of COVID tyranny.
01:10:39.160 Screw that.
01:10:39.540 I need a belt fed machine gun.
01:10:41.060 I need a thermal optic and I'm going to post outside of fill in the blank.
01:10:44.040 Truck pulls up and he pulls down.
01:10:46.360 Look at all these things you just said.
01:10:47.560 And so you're like,
01:10:48.280 you're like,
01:10:48.480 I need,
01:10:48.920 I need these things.
01:10:49.660 I need a fifth,
01:10:50.320 I need a $15,000 machine gun.
01:10:52.000 I need a $20,000 thermal optic on it.
01:10:53.820 And I want a suppressor.
01:10:54.560 That's going to handle that for another five grand.
01:10:55.980 So you've got $40,000 worth of equipment you need.
01:10:58.340 And then,
01:10:58.820 but you only have $800 in your bank account.
01:11:00.820 And then,
01:11:01.400 and then,
01:11:01.840 then your fed is going to be like,
01:11:03.180 he's like,
01:11:04.120 yeah,
01:11:04.320 bro.
01:11:04.580 He's like,
01:11:04.780 you're totally right.
01:11:05.360 Like,
01:11:05.440 we totally got to do it.
01:11:06.320 I know a dude,
01:11:07.000 it's probably going to be hot off a truck,
01:11:08.240 but he could get you all that stuff for like,
01:11:10.940 for like 800 bucks,
01:11:12.220 you know,
01:11:12.680 cause they know what's in your bank account.
01:11:13.960 Well,
01:11:13.980 so this is why on January 6th,
01:11:15.140 that's what you need to be a watch infower on January 6th.
01:11:17.240 So stupid.
01:11:17.800 They were chanting fed at Ray Epps.
01:11:19.360 Of course.
01:11:19.860 Cause he said to go in.
01:11:20.680 Yeah.
01:11:21.000 And I believe Mike Cernovich has pointed this out as well.
01:11:23.720 And I pointed out as well,
01:11:25.000 when we're having such tremendous victories,
01:11:27.060 like Bud Light losing $30 billion,
01:11:28.940 Target losing billions of dollars,
01:11:30.560 Liberty safe,
01:11:31.240 Disney Netflix.
01:11:32.560 I mean,
01:11:32.820 Liberty safe in panic over what they did.
01:11:34.820 And then you have the successes of sound of freedom.
01:11:36.860 You have the successes of Richmond,
01:11:37.840 North of Richmond.
01:11:38.420 These are massive cultural victories,
01:11:40.100 which will change the,
01:11:41.540 that will change the shape of this political conflict because politics is
01:11:44.220 downstream from culture.
01:11:45.280 Then you get someone coming in our super chat saying something stupid about
01:11:50.140 1776.
01:11:51.260 It's time.
01:11:51.960 We have to go do this.
01:11:52.720 And I'm like,
01:11:53.200 I'm like,
01:11:54.060 that's a fed,
01:11:54.900 like the key to victory right now.
01:11:57.260 I can't tell you what happens after 2024.
01:11:59.060 I don't know.
01:11:59.800 But right now the polls are showing Trump winning.
01:12:02.760 Yeah.
01:12:03.000 Democrats are in disarray.
01:12:04.360 Joe Biden's too old.
01:12:05.540 Even people that are,
01:12:06.480 that are leftists.
01:12:07.340 No,
01:12:07.640 like they look at their 401k and they're like,
01:12:09.340 I'm not going to be able to retire.
01:12:10.440 By the way,
01:12:10.800 housing prices have gone up 40% in four years.
01:12:13.640 This is not a sustainable thing.
01:12:15.120 No matter what you believe.
01:12:15.980 I'm sorry.
01:12:16.560 If,
01:12:16.660 if Bud Light loses $30 billion,
01:12:19.740 that shows that in the minds of the average person,
01:12:22.780 they are active in this culture war.
01:12:25.420 Let's like,
01:12:26.000 okay.
01:12:26.160 Bud Light,
01:12:26.680 the number one drink in the country,
01:12:27.660 not anymore,
01:12:28.300 but number one,
01:12:28.740 that means your average person is drinking it.
01:12:30.460 30,
01:12:31.000 30%
01:12:31.760 I ran a blue collar bar in the rural part of Kansas.
01:12:35.880 30%
01:12:36.600 from where you used to work.
01:12:37.820 If,
01:12:38.020 if,
01:12:38.360 so I,
01:12:38.720 I look at it this way.
01:12:39.980 Bud Light is a great indicator of what they say,
01:12:43.600 you got to go touch grass,
01:12:44.580 Tim,
01:12:44.740 you're too online.
01:12:45.500 Okay.
01:12:45.880 Well,
01:12:46.040 when 30% of Bud Light drinkers stop,
01:12:49.480 that shows,
01:12:50.520 let's just,
01:12:51.340 let's just do a one for one.
01:12:52.460 Bud Light is an average person kind of drink and they lost 30% of their market share.
01:12:56.740 30% of their sales.
01:12:58.220 Sounds to me like you could reasonably say 30% of,
01:13:01.980 it's a great polling metric,
01:13:03.260 by the way,
01:13:04.200 30% of the American people are paying attention to the point where they're politically active enough
01:13:08.480 to switch beers.
01:13:10.000 I'm telling you that,
01:13:11.140 that translates to everything else.
01:13:13.160 And it's measurable because beers are consumable.
01:13:15.200 It's not like,
01:13:15.660 it's like,
01:13:15.900 oh,
01:13:16.020 did they change car brands?
01:13:17.160 It's the consumable.
01:13:17.720 No,
01:13:17.740 like you're not going to get rid of your car because Toyota does something crazy.
01:13:20.140 It's like,
01:13:20.680 you got it,
01:13:21.320 you cracked it,
01:13:21.880 it's gone.
01:13:22.420 Are you going to buy more or are you going to go and get a yingling?
01:13:24.560 Are you going to go and buy like a Coors or something else?
01:13:26.820 Like you're going to change brands.
01:13:28.020 They say,
01:13:28.400 it's immediately measurable.
01:13:29.220 They say beer is the reason for human civilization.
01:13:32.760 That when humans that were nomadic figured out how to create beer,
01:13:38.460 they had to stop traveling around to create it.
01:13:41.720 For the fermentation.
01:13:42.180 For the fermentation.
01:13:43.300 It was like,
01:13:43.620 hey,
01:13:43.700 we figured this thing out.
01:13:44.440 This stuff rocks.
01:13:45.260 We got to sit here for five days.
01:13:47.000 Exactly.
01:13:47.340 And then maybe another one or two after that.
01:13:48.880 This river is really good too.
01:13:49.940 And then what happened was they were like,
01:13:51.560 we need more of this grain to make more of this.
01:13:54.080 Let's start planting it.
01:13:55.020 This is going to take a while.
01:13:55.680 So that may be,
01:13:57.020 may or may not be just myth and apocryphal or whatever.
01:13:59.340 Do you remember Mitch Hedberg?
01:14:00.220 Do you remember the comedians?
01:14:01.400 Right.
01:14:01.780 He does this thing about when.
01:14:03.920 Yeah.
01:14:04.360 So he's from Austin.
01:14:05.380 I live in Austin.
01:14:06.100 I love Mitch.
01:14:06.880 And like one of the,
01:14:07.560 of course he's,
01:14:08.220 he's passed away.
01:14:08.860 But one of the funny,
01:14:09.380 great things he says is when someone mishears you and you order a scrambled eggs or you
01:14:13.600 order a,
01:14:14.040 like a chicken breast or something.
01:14:15.180 He's like,
01:14:15.400 I want a chicken sandwich.
01:14:16.180 And the lady's like,
01:14:16.840 yeah,
01:14:16.940 how do you want your eggs?
01:14:17.720 And he's like,
01:14:18.160 oh,
01:14:19.020 I want them laid and,
01:14:23.220 and then,
01:14:23.720 and then fertilized and then cracked and then scrambled or whatever.
01:14:28.200 He says like a raisin and fertilized and then like hatched and then like moved on.
01:14:31.400 He goes through the whole process.
01:14:32.140 He goes,
01:14:32.460 he goes,
01:14:32.900 screw it.
01:14:33.560 Scrambled.
01:14:33.940 You know,
01:14:34.100 like I'll just take it how it is.
01:14:35.120 It's like those people had to make that decision when the grain was planted.
01:14:37.700 It's like,
01:14:38.040 oh shit,
01:14:38.540 I guess we're going to be here for a season.
01:14:39.620 But,
01:14:39.820 but my point with all of that is,
01:14:40.840 it makes sense.
01:14:41.780 I don't,
01:14:42.340 I,
01:14:42.500 I,
01:14:42.920 I don't understand why people are like,
01:14:44.920 we,
01:14:45.140 you,
01:14:45.820 I can't just,
01:14:46.500 we're not losing.
01:14:47.760 Disney lost a billion dollars on their last 10 releases or whatever.
01:14:50.440 Netflix was bleeding out subscribers.
01:14:52.300 You're seeing,
01:14:53.140 uh,
01:14:54.080 these,
01:14:55.180 these like BlackRock trying to say,
01:14:56.660 no,
01:14:56.760 no,
01:14:56.860 no,
01:14:56.920 we're not doing ESG.
01:14:57.600 We're not doing ESG because investors,
01:14:58.940 change the name.
01:14:59.780 Of course,
01:15:00.260 of course,
01:15:00.520 they still want to do it,
01:15:01.220 but I'm saying they're scared of,
01:15:03.920 of what's being said.
01:15:04.800 You look at the,
01:15:05.580 the,
01:15:05.780 the victories in terms of,
01:15:07.560 uh,
01:15:07.840 parental rights and education bills,
01:15:09.360 you look at gun rights.
01:15:10.820 How many states are constitutional carry?
01:15:12.800 Look what they just did in New Mexico.
01:15:14.200 What a,
01:15:14.780 I know what a panic step on a landmine that you didn't know was there.
01:15:17.780 And then she tries again.
01:15:18.980 They,
01:15:19.300 they look,
01:15:20.120 if you want to go find a place that is going to be,
01:15:21.880 uh,
01:15:22.440 full blue,
01:15:23.760 the bluest place you can find Democrat trifecta.
01:15:26.420 Okay.
01:15:26.880 New Mexico.
01:15:27.700 You want to find the one thing that you can piss everybody off on in that
01:15:30.460 state that is full of ranchers and outdoorsmen and people that go
01:15:33.160 hunting,
01:15:33.620 go with their gun rights.
01:15:35.920 So ultimately my point comes to winning does not mean one.
01:15:40.080 It does not mean that everything's over.
01:15:41.820 It means we have all of these victories,
01:15:44.080 which are accomplished through recording podcasts,
01:15:47.200 making jokes,
01:15:48.640 selling alternate beers.
01:15:50.540 The daily wire sells chocolate and razors.
01:15:52.880 And all of these things contribute to a change in culture,
01:15:55.460 which is routing the extremists on the left for someone to come out and
01:15:59.320 claim that,
01:16:00.460 that it's,
01:16:01.500 it there's,
01:16:02.000 that there's a requirement for something is you're fed for what it's
01:16:06.040 worth.
01:16:06.200 It doesn't mean that it doesn't get really bad for a while.
01:16:08.540 No,
01:16:08.700 of course,
01:16:09.040 people should understand that.
01:16:10.120 Like if you're not,
01:16:10.720 if you're not looking around and going like,
01:16:12.660 where are my exits?
01:16:13.340 This is,
01:16:13.800 yeah,
01:16:13.880 you need to know your exits.
01:16:14.800 You need to know what your plan is.
01:16:15.960 You better figure out how you can go for a couple of days without food.
01:16:18.100 You might need a water purifier.
01:16:19.240 Like you might like,
01:16:20.060 and it's probably the people that are in the places that are least prepared.
01:16:22.280 Like if you're in an urban area and there's a lot of like,
01:16:24.560 that's where population density equals danger.
01:16:26.800 In my opinion,
01:16:27.500 let me put it this way.
01:16:28.180 At this point,
01:16:28.860 you guys are good out here.
01:16:29.760 This is a better spot.
01:16:30.620 The,
01:16:30.780 the,
01:16:30.980 the,
01:16:31.180 the,
01:16:31.440 the decree from the governor of New Mexico is a threat of force and
01:16:35.160 violence against you from the state.
01:16:37.300 If you try to exercise your rights and she lost,
01:16:39.940 we didn't have to do anything to gain those rights other than vote,
01:16:44.100 file the paperwork by,
01:16:45.960 by a different beer,
01:16:46.920 just by living and being successful.
01:16:49.040 And the conservatives who had more kids than liberals,
01:16:51.420 we are entering a place where all of these victories are happening.
01:16:54.600 It did not used to be the case up until like 2008 that you could,
01:16:57.580 DC versus Heller,
01:16:58.780 where you actually had the modern version of,
01:17:00.920 of gun rights.
01:17:01.420 You could carry a weapon wherever you want.
01:17:02.800 And this,
01:17:03.440 and then you,
01:17:03.800 you actually had the,
01:17:04.720 the,
01:17:04.900 the more recent Supreme court ruling victory,
01:17:07.760 victory,
01:17:08.060 victory,
01:17:08.320 victory.
01:17:08.540 It's all procedural.
01:17:09.960 Donald Trump gets elected three Supreme court justices sitting back,
01:17:13.400 succeeding,
01:17:14.080 having a family,
01:17:15.040 protecting,
01:17:15.700 speaking,
01:17:16.160 protecting your family,
01:17:17.240 speaking out for what you believe in is leading to victories across the
01:17:20.220 board.
01:17:20.540 And then you get people coming out,
01:17:22.100 arguing for violence.
01:17:22.840 And I'm like,
01:17:23.280 you're a fan.
01:17:23.860 Yeah.
01:17:24.180 You're a leftist.
01:17:24.920 We're outbreeding them by the way.
01:17:26.480 Garrett and I just by ourselves.
01:17:27.640 Like I got a general question.
01:17:29.620 He's got four for both of you guys having served in the FBI.
01:17:31.940 Like,
01:17:32.400 do you think there's value to have a secret police force in the United States?
01:17:37.280 No,
01:17:37.680 I used to,
01:17:38.260 I'd swear there's like,
01:17:39.520 like it's the scariest shit you could ever have.
01:17:41.860 Because other countries have them too.
01:17:44.260 So if we don't have one,
01:17:45.280 we're basically with our pants down geopolitically.
01:17:47.480 So I understand,
01:17:48.120 but it's when it gets turned inward that it becomes an issue.
01:17:50.460 Is there a way to have one without turning it inward?
01:17:52.640 No,
01:17:52.940 of course not.
01:17:53.500 It's like,
01:17:53.840 it's the ring of power.
01:17:54.860 Okay.
01:17:55.460 For,
01:17:55.740 and I grew up reading Tolkien,
01:17:57.640 it's the ring of power.
01:17:58.700 Everyone thinks they can wield it.
01:17:59.780 Everyone thinks I have the moral character.
01:18:01.060 Let's say you can,
01:18:01.920 but your son can't.
01:18:02.920 You pass it down to the next generation.
01:18:04.260 Someone's going to fail in that line of dynasty.
01:18:06.280 It cannot be wielded.
01:18:07.380 I actually had this conversation with Seb Gorka,
01:18:09.380 who was actually an instructor for counterterrorism resources.
01:18:12.180 He would teach FBI analysts and agents how to understand terrorist ideology.
01:18:17.140 And so Seb's kind of a neat guy.
01:18:18.520 He's also a gun guy,
01:18:19.300 which I like a lot.
01:18:20.220 And so the two of us were talking about this and he said,
01:18:21.740 I can't even brag to my European friends anymore that we don't have a secret police.
01:18:25.480 The FBI is an intelligence agency first,
01:18:29.280 primarily,
01:18:30.000 you know how I know it?
01:18:30.940 Because they told us you can actually go your,
01:18:33.240 your,
01:18:33.480 your viewers can go on.
01:18:34.840 They can search what's called the DIOG.
01:18:36.340 It's the domestic investigations operation guide.
01:18:39.080 That is the FBI playbook on how they institute investigations.
01:18:42.140 And most of it is unredacted.
01:18:43.100 They can easier than that.
01:18:44.200 I'm on FBI.gov right now.
01:18:45.680 There's a timeline,
01:18:46.980 the section 2001 to 2008.
01:18:48.880 It literally says for the FBI and the nation,
01:18:51.960 a new era of national security had begun.
01:18:54.520 And then it gets into more about nine 11 and how Intel needs to be the most important here,
01:18:59.360 right here.
01:18:59.900 The key to that new mandate,
01:19:01.280 director Mueller knew was intelligence,
01:19:02.880 the Holy grail of national security work,
01:19:04.600 the ability to collect and connect the dots,
01:19:06.680 to know your enemies and the threats they pose inside and out,
01:19:09.000 to harm everyone from leaders in the oval office to police officers on the street,
01:19:11.760 blah,
01:19:11.900 blah,
01:19:12.000 blah,
01:19:12.140 blah,
01:19:12.220 blah.
01:19:12.820 They,
01:19:13.160 I mean,
01:19:13.740 come up and tell you.
01:19:15.020 It's right there.
01:19:15.620 I just went to FBI to go.
01:19:16.680 It says what we investigate intelligence is a,
01:19:18.600 is a,
01:19:18.960 it's the primary thing.
01:19:20.060 When you look at the dialogue,
01:19:21.100 which tells you how you can open a case,
01:19:22.840 what the predication has to be,
01:19:24.100 what the,
01:19:24.460 what the levels of cases are.
01:19:25.720 We do things that are called,
01:19:26.720 there's no probes,
01:19:27.420 by the way,
01:19:27.700 you'll be shocked to learn this of all the FBI probes that you've read about in,
01:19:30.800 in headlines.
01:19:31.940 There's no such thing as an FBI probe.
01:19:33.320 It's either an assessment,
01:19:34.520 which there are multiple types or it's an investigation.
01:19:36.920 And the investigations are either a preliminary or a full.
01:19:40.620 That's it.
01:19:41.300 Those are the three things,
01:19:42.200 assessment,
01:19:42.880 preliminary,
01:19:43.380 full,
01:19:43.800 and all of those,
01:19:45.240 the first thing they say it's FBI as intelligence agency is the number one thing they talk about.
01:19:50.680 Then they run through it.
01:19:51.620 Then it goes FBI as a law enforcement.
01:19:53.800 The FBI was originally called something else.
01:19:55.580 It was called the Bureau of Investigation.
01:19:56.940 They lie about when they were founded.
01:19:58.680 The Bureau of Investigation was founded in 1908.
01:20:01.060 Okay.
01:20:01.720 It was founded in 1908 in 1934 or 35.
01:20:04.540 It became the federal Bureau of Investigation.
01:20:06.520 This was all under Hoover.
01:20:07.420 The same guy ran it,
01:20:08.360 but they changed names.
01:20:09.460 Go look at the United States air force.
01:20:11.260 It was originally called the army air corps.
01:20:13.180 The first day of the army air corps turning into the air force is the air force birthday.
01:20:17.980 They don't claim like,
01:20:19.060 well,
01:20:19.140 we were created during world war two in the 1944.
01:20:21.840 They're like,
01:20:22.340 no,
01:20:22.640 they claim it's either 1947 or 48.
01:20:24.940 My air force friends are going to be pissed at me that I don't remember.
01:20:26.980 But in September of 47 or 48,
01:20:29.460 I believe the air force became the air force by decree and it became something else.
01:20:34.540 Look at the DOD.
01:20:35.600 It used to be called the Department of War.
01:20:37.440 When it became the Department of Defense,
01:20:38.980 it had a new birthday.
01:20:40.260 When you change your name and become a new entity,
01:20:42.260 you get a new birthday.
01:20:43.420 The FBI claims 1908 and it's lying.
01:20:45.200 Well,
01:20:45.340 here's what,
01:20:45.820 here's what,
01:20:46.700 I call it the Department of Offense.
01:20:50.460 So,
01:20:51.240 the history of the FBI says,
01:20:52.400 in 1896,
01:20:53.140 the National Bureau of Criminal Identification was founded,
01:20:55.520 providing agencies across the country with information to identify known criminals.
01:20:58.820 The 1901 assassination of William McKinley,
01:21:01.400 President William McKinley created a perception that the United States was under threat from anarchists.
01:21:05.960 The DOJ and labor have been keeping records on anarchists for a year,
01:21:09.900 but for years,
01:21:10.800 but Theodore Roosevelt wanted more power to do so.
01:21:13.460 The Justice Department,
01:21:14.300 like a secret police.
01:21:15.300 I don't know.
01:21:15.540 Well,
01:21:15.900 so what it says is on May 27,
01:21:17.640 1908,
01:21:18.400 Congress forbade this use of treasury employees,
01:21:21.200 the secret service,
01:21:21.720 by the Justice Department,
01:21:23.040 citing fears that the new agency would serve as a secret police department.
01:21:26.400 Again,
01:21:26.820 at Roosevelt's urging,
01:21:27.760 Bonaparte moved to organize a formal Bureau of Investigation,
01:21:30.260 which would then have its own staff of special agents.
01:21:32.940 So,
01:21:33.380 how are you,
01:21:34.660 you're saying that they've been around for a lot longer than that.
01:21:36.600 19,
01:21:36.760 well,
01:21:36.900 no,
01:21:37.000 they came around in 1908.
01:21:38.060 That was when it became the Bureau of Investigation.
01:21:39.640 So,
01:21:39.840 you went back into the,
01:21:40.880 into the 19th century.
01:21:42.220 That was the initial,
01:21:43.140 that was like them basically trying to figure out all their patterns of crimes.
01:21:46.020 They were first learning about how to do fingerprints and stuff like that.
01:21:48.100 That's what Hoover was famous for.
01:21:49.120 He basically got the,
01:21:49.860 the first national archives of fingerprints,
01:21:51.700 and things.
01:21:52.380 So,
01:21:52.520 he was organizing that.
01:21:53.640 And he was a young,
01:21:54.380 ambitious guy.
01:21:55.260 The Attorney General Bonaparte basically has this created as the Bureau of Investigation,
01:21:58.840 1908.
01:21:59.580 The FBI claims that as their birthday,
01:22:01.720 1908,
01:22:02.400 because it gives them legitimacy.
01:22:03.640 They're only 89 years old,
01:22:04.800 but they want to claim to be over 100 years old.
01:22:06.480 Right.
01:22:06.580 Why would you do that?
01:22:07.320 For legitimacy.
01:22:08.320 For that patina of legitimacy,
01:22:10.080 which I think they have shown up.
01:22:10.760 So,
01:22:10.900 what's their real birth date?
01:22:12.540 1934 or 35.
01:22:13.480 I think it's 1935 Act of Congress.
01:22:14.900 They say the creation of the FBI was 1933.
01:22:17.580 The Bureau of Investigation was linked to the Bureau of Prohibition,
01:22:20.020 rechristened to the Division of Investigation.
01:22:22.040 It became an independent service.
01:22:23.000 So,
01:22:23.120 there was one year where it was called something else,
01:22:24.700 and then the FBI specifically,
01:22:26.060 35.
01:22:26.560 35,
01:22:26.960 you're correct.
01:22:27.420 Yep.
01:22:27.600 Yeah.
01:22:27.800 So,
01:22:27.940 that's the real birthday.
01:22:28.860 And if you're an honest agency,
01:22:29.900 why would you lie about your birthday?
01:22:31.300 You know what?
01:22:31.700 Meet a woman and ask her what her birthday is.
01:22:33.240 If she lies about that,
01:22:33.940 she's going to lie about other things.
01:22:34.840 That's weird.
01:22:35.500 That's a weird thing to do.
01:22:36.200 They could argue 1896,
01:22:39.440 according to the...
01:22:40.420 Well,
01:22:40.580 they might.
01:22:40.940 Don't give them any ideas.
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01:24:12.520 Well, I mean, so let me put it this way.
01:24:14.720 There are a lot of people who say abolish.
01:24:16.120 A lot of people say defund.
01:24:17.520 And the reason I bring it up
01:24:18.740 is because there have been arguments made
01:24:20.080 that the president can, by executive order,
01:24:21.820 just say no more FBI.
01:24:22.960 That's the vague claim.
01:24:24.620 It's part of the executive branch.
01:24:25.900 So I think, yeah, there's a groundwork
01:24:27.640 that could be laid for that.
01:24:29.140 I don't think it's going to happen.
01:24:30.320 Would that even be a good idea?
01:24:31.540 Yeah, for sure.
01:24:32.480 You think so?
01:24:32.940 Here's why.
01:24:33.760 Let me throw why.
01:24:35.360 In 2020, under the COVID hysteria,
01:24:37.620 my field office,
01:24:38.880 which was the second biggest field office
01:24:40.560 in the country, I think.
01:24:42.300 I think Washington Field is the second biggest.
01:24:43.780 It's New York.
01:24:44.680 And then it's either LA or DC.
01:24:47.540 One of the two.
01:24:48.120 Top three.
01:24:48.720 Doesn't matter.
01:24:49.760 They told everybody in the biggest thing
01:24:51.620 that if you listen to Attorney General Garland yesterday,
01:24:53.780 is it yesterday that he was talking
01:24:54.760 or is it the day before?
01:24:55.580 Two before.
01:24:56.100 So Wednesday, when he was talking,
01:24:57.320 he said the most important things the FBI does
01:24:59.240 are all national security related.
01:25:00.640 That's what he said.
01:25:01.520 His words, not mine.
01:25:02.360 I don't care.
01:25:02.740 They shut down national security in Washington, DC.
01:25:06.180 They had the national security agents
01:25:07.880 of which there were probably a couple hundred
01:25:10.220 working on all the threats
01:25:12.040 in the national capital region,
01:25:13.140 which you would think would be a big deal.
01:25:14.380 All the spies, all the traitors,
01:25:16.020 all the terrorists try to do bad things.
01:25:18.000 They had them show up for 30 minutes a day,
01:25:20.520 two times a week.
01:25:21.380 They took a 50 hour a week job.
01:25:23.560 They made it one hour a week.
01:25:24.760 And did you see anything crazy happen in 2020?
01:25:28.200 Nobody did.
01:25:29.300 Nobody popped off.
01:25:30.440 The Chinese still stole our technology.
01:25:31.940 They do that anyway.
01:25:32.460 They do it all day.
01:25:33.260 We didn't see some massive surge
01:25:35.400 of the Klan coming over and taking over anything.
01:25:38.280 Like we just watched what happened
01:25:39.860 when you take them down from doing their job
01:25:42.020 to doing no job for one hour a week.
01:25:44.000 And apparently we could reduce the FBI by 50, 50X.
01:25:48.940 Not like, not a small amount.
01:25:50.920 You could destroy that in that area
01:25:52.740 and nothing happened.
01:25:53.860 And nobody knew about it.
01:25:54.940 In the same way that when we had
01:25:55.980 a quote unquote government shutdown
01:25:57.060 and people don't go to work.
01:25:58.460 Nobody noticed.
01:25:59.240 Nobody notices.
01:25:59.820 If you work like the things
01:26:01.400 that touch you for government
01:26:02.400 are your local government.
01:26:03.660 If the police stopped enforcing
01:26:04.940 speed laws around you,
01:26:05.960 people would do weird stuff.
01:26:07.320 If they stopped investigating burglaries,
01:26:08.920 people would get burgled.
01:26:09.980 If you stopped investigating
01:26:11.020 any of the things that are close by to you,
01:26:12.920 either your police department
01:26:14.080 or your sheriff's deputies,
01:26:15.120 if they weren't doing their job,
01:26:16.400 you would freaking notice.
01:26:17.640 You can see it in places like Baltimore.
01:26:19.440 You saw it in Ferguson.
01:26:20.600 I know you guys have some experience
01:26:21.620 with seeing that stuff.
01:26:22.340 When that happens, it gets rowdy.
01:26:24.440 When you take away the feds,
01:26:25.940 they still don't investigate
01:26:27.360 your million dollar fraud.
01:26:28.300 And you still won't notice it.
01:26:30.040 It doesn't matter.
01:26:31.240 So what you could do
01:26:32.200 is you could take that $11 billion,
01:26:33.920 that nine to $11 billion a year
01:26:36.140 that we spent on the FBI.
01:26:37.220 And what if you put that into a program
01:26:38.720 where we cross deputized
01:26:40.180 senior state police officers
01:26:41.760 who have like a lot of time on the job
01:26:43.180 and have been doing things well.
01:26:44.400 And you said,
01:26:45.080 not only do you have state authorities,
01:26:46.540 which means they're going to be
01:26:47.540 accountable to an attorney general
01:26:48.820 that's elected in their state.
01:26:49.940 That's good.
01:26:50.920 You say not only that,
01:26:52.480 but what if we just said
01:26:53.520 you're cross deputized
01:26:54.700 under Title 21 and Title 18
01:26:56.080 to pursue federal crimes as well.
01:26:57.920 So now your state police
01:26:58.800 have the ability to bring a case
01:27:00.120 to the Justice Department
01:27:01.400 and say, hey,
01:27:01.960 we're going to prosecute this federally.
01:27:03.220 This is a federal crime
01:27:03.860 across the state lines
01:27:04.580 and I'm deputized to do so.
01:27:06.400 But let's say it doesn't cross state lines.
01:27:08.060 Now they have the state authority.
01:27:09.240 And if that person sucks,
01:27:10.760 they have to theoretically answer
01:27:12.060 to their attorney general
01:27:12.800 who actually is elected.
01:27:13.980 So you would have 50 independent laboratories
01:27:15.760 of good ideas
01:27:16.780 instead of one centrally run one
01:27:18.360 out of D.C. with Chris Ray,
01:27:20.120 who's a guy who was making $9.2 million
01:27:21.980 the year before he started working
01:27:23.260 as the FBI director.
01:27:24.320 Wow, what was he doing?
01:27:25.220 He's a lawyer.
01:27:25.820 He's a white shoe lawyer.
01:27:26.600 He was the guy that fixed
01:27:27.420 Chris Christie's bridge gay scandal.
01:27:29.100 Do people know that?
01:27:29.780 And Chris Christie is the guy
01:27:30.800 who recommended Ray to President Trump.
01:27:33.240 So you got a guy
01:27:34.360 who was making $9.2 million
01:27:35.680 the year before he became the FBI director
01:27:37.500 and now he makes $235,000 a year.
01:27:40.580 Does anyone have any problems
01:27:41.680 with what went on there?
01:27:42.880 Why would you do that?
01:27:43.920 Can any of you imagine
01:27:44.680 walking away from $9 million a year
01:27:46.700 and taking the decimal point
01:27:47.740 at the end of your salary?
01:27:49.100 You're bringing in like $750 a month
01:27:51.540 or something like that?
01:27:52.400 Yeah, that's some social capital right there.
01:27:54.200 There's something very big happening there
01:27:55.820 and you know how I know
01:27:56.480 that he's not committed to it?
01:27:57.620 He's a prince now.
01:27:58.420 Yeah, I call him politically appointed princes.
01:28:00.160 He flies around in a private jet
01:28:01.520 that the American taxpayer funded.
01:28:03.100 It's a $60 million aircraft,
01:28:04.840 a Gulfstream 550.
01:28:06.300 I did a piece with Brandon Dre
01:28:07.700 over at Daily Wire.
01:28:08.860 We wrote a whole expose.
01:28:09.760 They could impeach him over that alone.
01:28:11.360 The way that he uses
01:28:12.240 the private jet of the FBI,
01:28:13.400 he flies around.
01:28:14.040 Do you want to know
01:28:14.460 what he actually pays back?
01:28:16.400 Because he has to fund
01:28:17.660 his personal travel.
01:28:18.980 He has a security detail
01:28:20.080 that drives him in a motorcade
01:28:21.200 down to a plane.
01:28:22.220 He's so lazy about this stuff
01:28:23.660 and he's so arrogant
01:28:24.480 that Chris Ray has the jet
01:28:26.040 which lives in Manassas, Virginia.
01:28:27.420 You guys know where that is.
01:28:28.300 It flies to DCA, Reagan.
01:28:30.920 It lands.
01:28:31.780 It costs us $2,500 as a taxpayer
01:28:33.980 to land at DCA
01:28:34.860 just for the runway fee
01:28:35.740 for the private jet.
01:28:36.360 That's like...
01:28:37.000 Plus whatever it costs
01:28:37.720 for a 30-minute flight
01:28:38.700 from Manassas to Virginia.
01:28:39.780 It's like 41 miles.
01:28:41.300 Yeah.
01:28:41.740 Okay.
01:28:42.140 It flies 41 miles
01:28:43.420 to meet him closer
01:28:44.420 so he doesn't have to sit
01:28:45.340 on Route 66,
01:28:46.440 on US 66
01:28:47.320 and drive out
01:28:47.980 to where the hangar is.
01:28:49.280 Suburbs.
01:28:49.920 I'm like, what a minute.
01:28:50.640 Correct.
01:28:50.940 That's just the suburbs.
01:28:51.840 It flies to him at DCA.
01:28:53.640 He gets on the plane
01:28:54.740 and then he flies
01:28:55.680 to wherever he goes
01:28:56.580 usually home to Atlanta.
01:28:58.060 That two-minute flight?
01:28:59.180 It's between 15 and 20 minutes
01:29:01.620 depending on the pattern.
01:29:02.540 To fly?
01:29:03.260 Oh, because you can't
01:29:04.040 just go up and down.
01:29:04.560 Right.
01:29:04.980 You don't just direct flight.
01:29:05.940 You have to fly up
01:29:06.640 then you have to fly
01:29:07.320 into the pattern
01:29:07.880 then you have to fly
01:29:08.620 around DCA
01:29:09.220 then you land.
01:29:09.960 So it's short as 13 minutes
01:29:11.620 as long as like 21 or 22 minutes.
01:29:13.240 People can actually go
01:29:14.040 check out this plane
01:29:15.020 in real time.
01:29:15.840 It's a government aircraft
01:29:16.520 we all play for.
01:29:17.160 Look, man.
01:29:17.640 Traffic around DC, oof.
01:29:19.540 Right.
01:29:19.820 41 miles could be not in half.
01:29:21.020 So $10,000 per flight
01:29:22.520 is what I've been told
01:29:23.260 the estimate is
01:29:24.060 between wear and tear
01:29:24.880 in the aircraft
01:29:25.460 the cost of operating the crew
01:29:27.300 the crew rest
01:29:28.200 that they get from the flight
01:29:29.120 and the fact that we pay
01:29:30.080 $2,500 in fuel
01:29:31.280 and everything else
01:29:31.820 $2,500 just to touch down
01:29:33.060 on the runway.
01:29:33.760 People can actually check it out.
01:29:34.960 It's all aircraft
01:29:36.460 have a tail number
01:29:37.180 and his is November 708
01:29:39.380 Juliet Hotel.
01:29:40.580 November 708 JH.
01:29:42.600 That is our jet
01:29:43.820 that the FBI flies
01:29:44.860 for Chris Wray.
01:29:45.720 It was bought under $60 million
01:29:47.440 with the counterterrorism resources.
01:29:49.360 It is supposed to be used
01:29:50.180 for the counterterrorism
01:29:51.380 investigation teams
01:29:52.320 that go around
01:29:52.740 and pick up
01:29:53.140 like let's say
01:29:53.940 a big shooting happens.
01:29:55.120 Let's say Las Vegas happens.
01:29:57.180 You're supposed to fly
01:29:57.900 an evidence team
01:29:58.560 in that jet
01:29:59.200 out there to do it
01:29:59.860 but they have to wait
01:30:00.760 until Chris Wray
01:30:01.360 is done using it
01:30:02.080 because he uses it
01:30:02.920 to fly home to Atlanta
01:30:03.800 where his family lives
01:30:05.120 and he lives.
01:30:06.200 He's a geo bachelor
01:30:07.120 five, six days out of the week
01:30:08.820 because he didn't even commit
01:30:10.100 after appointed for 10 years
01:30:11.620 he didn't even commit
01:30:12.500 to living in DC
01:30:13.080 with his family.
01:30:13.600 His wife still lives
01:30:14.360 outside of Atlanta.
01:30:15.160 So if you go look
01:30:16.000 at the flight aware
01:30:16.700 which people can do publicly
01:30:17.780 it's like a free resource.
01:30:19.120 You could pull up
01:30:19.740 where that jet goes
01:30:20.440 and here's what it does.
01:30:21.340 On a Friday afternoon
01:30:22.500 it flies from Manassas
01:30:24.640 to Reagan Airport.
01:30:26.000 It lands.
01:30:27.460 He gets on it.
01:30:28.740 It flies him
01:30:29.520 to Fulton County
01:30:30.540 down outside of Atlanta.
01:30:32.780 He gets off it.
01:30:33.920 It flies back to Atlanta.
01:30:35.100 It sits there
01:30:35.700 for the weekend.
01:30:37.240 Then it flies back
01:30:38.240 on Monday morning
01:30:38.780 and picks him up
01:30:39.300 or Sunday night.
01:30:40.300 Then it flies him
01:30:41.200 back to DCA
01:30:42.280 drops him off
01:30:43.520 because it's closer
01:30:44.000 to the office.
01:30:44.760 Then it flies back
01:30:45.360 to Manassas
01:30:45.880 where it lives.
01:30:46.820 So we now have
01:30:47.540 six flights
01:30:48.780 for a man
01:30:49.340 to basically just fly
01:30:50.520 home.
01:30:51.140 Home.
01:30:51.960 And do you know
01:30:52.640 what he pays for that?
01:30:53.280 Because that's private travel.
01:30:54.260 That's personal travel.
01:30:54.960 He has to reimburse
01:30:55.560 the American taxpayer.
01:30:56.440 Do you know what he pays?
01:30:56.960 What?
01:30:57.300 Like 200 bucks
01:30:58.000 because he finds
01:30:58.980 whatever the cheapest
01:30:59.640 one-way flight is
01:31:00.640 or the cheapest round trip
01:31:01.860 on Spirit Airlines
01:31:02.740 and that's what he's responsible
01:31:04.080 for paying out of his pocket.
01:31:05.300 So he pays
01:31:06.040 the commercial equivalent
01:31:07.540 to the region.
01:31:08.540 It could be a Spirit Airlines
01:31:09.600 flight from Baltimore
01:31:10.480 to like near Atlanta
01:31:11.900 and that's what he has to pay.
01:31:13.380 It has to be in the same region.
01:31:14.360 It doesn't even have to be
01:31:14.960 the same airports
01:31:15.640 because he flies
01:31:16.300 into the private jet terminal.
01:31:17.760 The dude is paying
01:31:18.560 like 200 bucks
01:31:19.220 a flight
01:31:20.600 for a round trip
01:31:21.800 that costs
01:31:22.600 the American taxpayer
01:31:23.460 probably upwards
01:31:24.240 of like $50,000 or more.
01:31:25.980 Sounds like corruption.
01:31:26.700 It sounds like a really good deal
01:31:27.960 if you can get it.
01:31:28.640 That's why he thinks
01:31:29.120 he's a prince.
01:31:29.560 On top of that
01:31:30.080 he's got all sorts
01:31:31.140 of strap hangers
01:31:31.900 who go with him everywhere.
01:31:33.280 He's got his own
01:31:33.960 security detail
01:31:34.740 and if you're going
01:31:35.580 for multiple days
01:31:36.360 you're taking multiple ships
01:31:37.680 because those guys
01:31:38.180 aren't working 24 hours a day
01:31:39.420 but there has to be
01:31:40.500 a security detail awake
01:31:41.760 on him and his house
01:31:43.120 or wherever he is
01:31:44.120 his hotel
01:31:44.840 wherever he is in the world
01:31:46.080 24 hours a day.
01:31:47.500 You got the flight crew
01:31:48.760 who now they're in Atlanta
01:31:49.720 over the weekend.
01:31:50.400 All these people
01:31:50.860 are getting paid
01:31:51.580 overtime
01:31:52.380 for working the weekend
01:31:53.660 or weekend differential pay
01:31:55.420 and night shift pay
01:31:56.440 and all sorts of
01:31:57.620 bonus pay for
01:31:59.020 They bring in
01:31:59.320 the local SWAT teams
01:32:00.140 because those guys
01:32:00.680 exhaust all the hours
01:32:01.600 where they can
01:32:01.960 at some point in time
01:32:02.880 if you're a federal agent
01:32:04.020 you actually make
01:32:04.960 you do enough overtime
01:32:05.900 and there's only
01:32:06.780 the people that are
01:32:07.340 basically on protective
01:32:08.020 details get it
01:32:08.720 but if you work
01:32:09.580 enough overtime hours
01:32:10.560 you eventually start
01:32:11.280 working for free
01:32:12.020 because there's a cap
01:32:13.220 at 174,000 and change
01:32:15.400 or 176,000 changes
01:32:16.800 year to year
01:32:17.200 like a little bit
01:32:17.840 but once you hit
01:32:18.700 that amount of numbers
01:32:19.400 you can't make
01:32:20.260 any more money
01:32:20.880 so when you're
01:32:21.300 working overtime
01:32:21.820 they're actually not
01:32:22.400 paying you the overtime
01:32:23.220 rate
01:32:23.460 you're just doing it
01:32:23.960 for free
01:32:24.240 and so at some point
01:32:25.520 in time
01:32:25.760 those guys don't
01:32:26.320 want to work for free
01:32:27.020 so they bring in
01:32:27.740 local SWAT teams
01:32:28.380 which Garrett was on
01:32:29.040 the SWAT team
01:32:29.480 in Kansas City
01:32:30.020 and they'll bring in
01:32:30.980 the SWAT team
01:32:31.540 who gets overtime pay
01:32:32.540 so they can spread
01:32:33.320 the love around
01:32:33.860 so that everybody
01:32:34.400 gets paid overtime
01:32:35.260 basically just sitting
01:32:36.280 in a van
01:32:36.680 like hanging out
01:32:37.280 waiting for the FBI
01:32:38.020 director to wake up
01:32:38.740 I think it's beyond
01:32:39.800 just the FBI
01:32:40.440 I think
01:32:40.940 oh for sure
01:32:41.540 we're looking at
01:32:42.800 just the degradation
01:32:44.720 of our institutions
01:32:45.660 it has become
01:32:47.540 someone tweeted out
01:32:50.520 no one is trying
01:32:52.360 to solve the problems
01:32:53.180 they're trying to get
01:32:53.680 wealthy enough
01:32:54.260 so the problems
01:32:54.740 don't affect them
01:32:55.360 do you want to know
01:32:56.100 what was on my screensaver
01:32:56.920 when I was sitting
01:32:57.900 my last couple days
01:32:58.700 in the office
01:32:59.140 which probably didn't help
01:33:00.680 I had one of those
01:33:01.760 demotivator posters
01:33:03.040 that was like
01:33:03.680 tiled across my
01:33:04.860 unclassified computer
01:33:05.680 and it said
01:33:06.560 government
01:33:07.680 if you think
01:33:08.520 we have problems
01:33:09.120 you should see
01:33:09.560 our solutions
01:33:10.160 that was number one
01:33:11.000 and then the other one
01:33:11.860 I had was consultants
01:33:12.760 if you're not going
01:33:13.580 to be part of the solution
01:33:14.280 there's a ton of money
01:33:14.920 to be made
01:33:15.280 keeping the problem going
01:33:16.160 and so those are
01:33:17.040 the two favorite things
01:33:17.860 that like anybody
01:33:18.480 who's worked in government
01:33:19.100 knows those are true
01:33:19.720 there's a concern
01:33:21.140 that if we were
01:33:21.860 to disband the FBI
01:33:22.880 if we were to shut
01:33:23.560 it all down
01:33:24.120 that a lot of people
01:33:25.300 would get fired
01:33:25.840 and that they would
01:33:26.680 go form their own
01:33:27.520 paramilitary corps
01:33:28.480 do you guys get that
01:33:29.360 awesome
01:33:29.680 that's what like
01:33:30.380 the bath party did
01:33:31.200 in Iraq
01:33:31.640 when we went in
01:33:32.260 and just eradicated
01:33:33.140 Saddam's government
01:33:34.080 they said you can't
01:33:34.580 work in the government
01:33:35.000 anymore you're out
01:33:35.600 they formed their own
01:33:36.780 political ISIS
01:33:37.860 overwhelmingly people
01:33:39.400 that carry a gun
01:33:40.180 for a living
01:33:40.640 of all ilk
01:33:41.680 whether they be
01:33:42.360 in law enforcement
01:33:42.860 or military
01:33:43.260 they tend to be
01:33:44.100 relatively libertarian
01:33:45.220 minded conservatives
01:33:46.320 who don't want
01:33:46.980 to get into your business
01:33:47.700 I would say
01:33:48.560 that's been my experience
01:33:49.660 I was in the military
01:33:50.620 I've been in law enforcement
01:33:51.620 in two different areas
01:33:52.420 and I was a paramedic
01:33:53.380 before that
01:33:53.780 and I rolled around
01:33:54.260 with law enforcement
01:33:54.900 a lot
01:33:55.040 they don't want
01:33:55.760 to mess with you
01:33:56.380 so having a bunch
01:33:57.440 of armed people
01:33:58.040 that care about
01:33:58.520 your liberty
01:33:58.940 sounds like not
01:33:59.560 a problem to me
01:34:00.240 that's just me
01:34:00.900 they're not going
01:34:01.520 to go out there
01:34:01.860 now the reason
01:34:02.840 the FBI is slanted
01:34:03.700 the way it is
01:34:04.280 is because agents
01:34:05.140 only make up about
01:34:06.040 just under 14,000
01:34:07.280 they're like 13,600
01:34:08.760 and change
01:34:09.340 FBI agents
01:34:10.700 but there's
01:34:11.820 of like a 40,000
01:34:13.320 person institution
01:34:14.620 but there's yeah
01:34:15.100 30 36 37,000
01:34:16.900 something like that
01:34:17.480 whatever it is
01:34:18.040 it's under 40,000
01:34:18.920 but it's over 35,000
01:34:20.400 so the
01:34:21.300 even though agents
01:34:22.520 the majority of agents
01:34:23.480 are relatively
01:34:24.040 conservative minded
01:34:24.760 libertarian is probably
01:34:25.720 better they just are
01:34:26.440 apolitical about a lot
01:34:27.340 of stuff
01:34:27.600 they don't want
01:34:27.940 to get involved
01:34:28.380 even though they
01:34:29.360 make up the majority
01:34:30.060 of the people
01:34:30.360 that carry the guns
01:34:30.960 they are the minority
01:34:31.760 of the agency
01:34:32.520 and that's the case
01:34:33.360 everywhere
01:34:33.800 that when you have
01:34:34.980 the majority of people
01:34:35.880 that are interested
01:34:36.540 in government
01:34:37.220 and they work
01:34:37.840 for the government
01:34:38.340 they're going to
01:34:38.800 grow government
01:34:39.460 and they're the ones
01:34:40.560 that are driving
01:34:41.000 the train
01:34:41.400 big time
01:34:42.420 it's scary stuff
01:34:43.280 for people that
01:34:44.040 have any interest
01:34:44.720 in it
01:34:44.960 because you look
01:34:45.640 and you go
01:34:45.900 this doesn't make sense
01:34:46.840 people go
01:34:47.280 well FBI agents
01:34:48.180 are conservative
01:34:48.680 so what
01:34:49.220 they're not the ones
01:34:49.880 telling people
01:34:50.280 what to do
01:34:50.620 and then ordinary men
01:34:51.800 just doing it
01:34:52.380 ordinary men
01:34:53.180 they do what
01:34:53.760 they're told
01:34:54.060 yeah Vivek said
01:34:54.860 that when he's
01:34:55.460 going to shut down
01:34:56.020 the FBI
01:34:56.440 that it's going
01:34:56.980 to basically
01:34:57.440 terminate the positions
01:34:58.300 of a lot of the
01:34:58.800 bureaucrats
01:34:59.260 and that the
01:34:59.780 the agents themselves
01:35:00.660 will be moved
01:35:01.300 to the rangers
01:35:01.920 his ideas are good
01:35:02.860 oh okay
01:35:03.280 we were just reading
01:35:04.380 it on the way
01:35:04.780 it's like some
01:35:05.320 of his numbers
01:35:05.740 it's like dude
01:35:06.280 you don't need
01:35:06.600 that many people
01:35:07.120 doing counterterrorism
01:35:07.860 investigations
01:35:08.360 and national
01:35:08.900 he doesn't actually
01:35:09.740 know because he
01:35:10.100 hasn't worked in there
01:35:10.640 I've talked backstage
01:35:11.500 with Vivek
01:35:12.420 and we've talked
01:35:13.020 about like
01:35:13.820 I would love to
01:35:15.320 consult with him
01:35:15.840 I was like look
01:35:16.240 your numbers are off
01:35:16.880 but your ideas are good
01:35:17.660 let me just say it
01:35:18.420 very clearly
01:35:18.840 you have to put out
01:35:20.040 a number if you're
01:35:20.560 going to be a guy
01:35:20.980 that's serious
01:35:21.440 you have to put out
01:35:22.300 a thing
01:35:22.560 I would get rid
01:35:23.040 of this number
01:35:23.380 of positions
01:35:23.740 and so on
01:35:24.120 his heart is in
01:35:25.380 the right place
01:35:25.920 and his ideas
01:35:26.840 would work fine
01:35:27.520 we would just
01:35:27.980 want to give some
01:35:29.160 input about how to
01:35:29.820 tweak it
01:35:30.100 so you don't think
01:35:30.660 the bureaucrats
01:35:31.300 would go form
01:35:31.860 their own like
01:35:32.740 anti-american
01:35:34.440 organization
01:35:35.000 if you take the
01:35:36.920 bureaucrats out
01:35:37.640 of the equation
01:35:38.260 okay
01:35:39.820 the bureaucrats
01:35:41.320 are the tyrants
01:35:41.980 in this scenario
01:35:42.720 and they think
01:35:44.720 they have power
01:35:45.440 and they use the
01:35:47.080 power that they
01:35:47.860 currently have
01:35:48.580 and they try
01:35:49.040 to grow that
01:35:49.740 power
01:35:50.080 if you take
01:35:51.460 their positions
01:35:52.140 away and you
01:35:52.780 disintegrate them
01:35:53.540 into moon dust
01:35:54.360 they don't have
01:35:55.520 any power left
01:35:56.340 and they're not
01:35:57.600 gun toters
01:35:58.180 they're sitting
01:36:00.000 in headquarters
01:36:00.680 thinking they're
01:36:02.060 solving all the
01:36:02.660 world's problems
01:36:03.360 when in fact
01:36:04.400 they're making
01:36:05.120 things worse
01:36:05.780 for normal
01:36:07.020 Americans
01:36:07.580 think about
01:36:08.320 Saul Alinsky's
01:36:09.020 rules for radicals
01:36:09.700 any power
01:36:10.280 any power
01:36:10.980 that your enemy
01:36:11.460 thinks you have
01:36:12.020 you have
01:36:12.400 and so they use it
01:36:13.520 but the minute
01:36:14.200 that they don't
01:36:14.640 have it
01:36:14.980 they don't have it
01:36:15.620 the minute
01:36:16.200 that people go
01:36:16.640 like no
01:36:17.020 imagine if
01:36:17.740 2,000 or 3,000
01:36:19.400 FBI agents
01:36:19.960 who are out there
01:36:20.380 who are doing
01:36:20.760 this stuff
01:36:21.100 and are disgusted
01:36:21.880 because there's
01:36:22.380 a lot of them
01:36:22.820 we literally had
01:36:23.560 this conversation
01:36:24.060 this morning
01:36:24.500 before we got
01:36:24.940 to the studio
01:36:25.720 I'm talking
01:36:26.380 to my buddy
01:36:26.700 Steve Friend
01:36:27.060 and he goes
01:36:27.500 dude if I was
01:36:27.960 still working
01:36:28.260 for the FBI
01:36:28.660 right now
01:36:29.080 and I saw
01:36:29.700 Kyle Serafin
01:36:30.420 a Garrett O'Boyle
01:36:31.160 a Steve Friend
01:36:31.920 out there
01:36:32.200 talking about
01:36:32.660 all the things
01:36:33.180 that we talk
01:36:33.600 about over a beer
01:36:34.300 about how jacked
01:36:35.460 up the FBI is
01:36:36.400 and they're out
01:36:37.240 there saying it
01:36:37.660 publicly
01:36:37.940 and they got
01:36:38.340 canceled for it
01:36:39.040 and they literally
01:36:39.700 got canceled
01:36:40.120 because they said
01:36:40.560 they weren't
01:36:40.760 going to do
01:36:41.020 something that was
01:36:41.460 wrong
01:36:41.740 he's like
01:36:42.660 I'd want to
01:36:43.000 eat my gun
01:36:43.540 he's like
01:36:44.500 I would want
01:36:44.820 to commit suicide
01:36:45.340 I would be like
01:36:46.060 I am doing
01:36:46.600 something shameful
01:36:47.180 and dishonorable
01:36:47.700 I'm not encouraging
01:36:48.800 anybody to go do
01:36:49.360 that obviously
01:36:49.840 I don't think
01:36:50.280 that's the right
01:36:50.680 answer
01:36:50.920 but it's like
01:36:51.280 how jacked up
01:36:52.880 is it that
01:36:53.260 you're looking
01:36:53.620 around
01:36:53.860 people go
01:36:54.520 how come
01:36:54.820 nobody's out
01:36:55.240 there supporting
01:36:55.720 what you guys
01:36:56.180 are saying
01:36:56.540 well look
01:36:57.000 look at Veritas
01:36:57.800 well Veritas
01:36:58.980 isn't around
01:36:59.380 anymore
01:36:59.640 no but I'm
01:37:00.420 friendly with
01:37:00.840 the people
01:37:01.120 that were there
01:37:01.460 but look at
01:37:01.740 how these
01:37:02.060 investigations
01:37:02.580 used to go
01:37:03.200 you have
01:37:03.640 these people
01:37:04.040 who in
01:37:04.320 private
01:37:04.620 over a beer
01:37:05.160 will admit
01:37:05.740 to malfeasance
01:37:07.280 and corruption
01:37:07.800 and then panic
01:37:09.300 and beg
01:37:10.080 when people
01:37:10.480 find out
01:37:11.060 that's right
01:37:11.500 because they
01:37:12.000 they have no
01:37:13.140 problem engaging
01:37:13.940 in evil
01:37:14.420 so long as
01:37:15.000 no one knows
01:37:15.420 they're doing it
01:37:15.860 my actual boss
01:37:16.860 when I told him
01:37:17.500 that I was not
01:37:18.120 going to do
01:37:18.440 a nasal swab
01:37:19.040 for any reason
01:37:19.820 for every 72
01:37:20.600 hours because
01:37:21.340 I didn't have
01:37:21.860 the disease
01:37:22.300 and I have
01:37:22.980 thousands and
01:37:23.640 thousands of
01:37:24.080 clinical hours
01:37:24.720 training on
01:37:25.620 disease process
01:37:26.380 I've worked
01:37:26.780 in hospitals
01:37:27.220 and I've
01:37:27.440 worked on
01:37:27.680 ambulances
01:37:28.080 and I've
01:37:28.680 done probably
01:37:29.240 hundreds if
01:37:29.840 not thousands
01:37:30.300 of nasal
01:37:30.660 swabs
01:37:30.980 for the flu
01:37:31.420 and nobody
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01:37:33.340 oxide up
01:37:33.820 your nose
01:37:34.160 like into
01:37:34.720 a mucosal
01:37:35.200 membrane
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01:37:36.480 hours
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01:39:18.200 and you know I just
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01:39:21.320 so I lost my paycheck
01:39:22.400 for two months over this
01:39:23.200 because it was important
01:39:23.740 enough for me to do it
01:39:24.420 yeah
01:39:24.620 and I just look at the
01:39:25.440 I got little kids man
01:39:26.500 I've got a baby right now
01:39:27.900 who's like 25 days old
01:39:29.180 and I've got three other
01:39:30.480 kids and what am I going
01:39:31.260 to tell them when they
01:39:32.240 when we look into a
01:39:33.140 country full of tyranny
01:39:34.180 am I going to go look
01:39:35.820 you know at least your dad
01:39:36.900 had a roof over your head
01:39:37.960 during this time
01:39:38.660 I did nothing about it
01:39:39.980 I wasn't going to be
01:39:40.740 that guy
01:39:41.180 that's just not the
01:39:41.920 kind of guy I am
01:39:42.380 you know that's
01:39:42.760 that's why James says
01:39:43.800 be brave
01:39:44.400 and you know now
01:39:45.940 obviously he's doing
01:39:46.500 OMG O'Keefe Media Group
01:39:47.620 and Veritas is gone
01:39:48.460 but the idea is
01:39:50.080 he put this tweet out
01:39:51.280 saying that if
01:39:52.580 essentially
01:39:54.100 I'm going to paraphrase
01:39:54.960 because I don't remember
01:39:55.360 the exact words
01:39:55.900 but he was like
01:39:56.260 if you're participating
01:39:56.920 in this
01:39:57.460 you are responsible
01:39:58.940 for the future
01:39:59.520 your children receive
01:40:00.360 let me say it easier
01:40:01.080 you cannot comply
01:40:02.420 your way out of tyranny
01:40:03.320 right
01:40:03.580 period
01:40:04.220 yeah
01:40:04.580 you can't
01:40:05.200 and the other thing
01:40:05.840 that I've been saying
01:40:06.300 and if people
01:40:06.700 anybody who's older
01:40:07.680 about 30
01:40:08.620 what 35 years old
01:40:09.920 anybody who's over
01:40:10.920 about 35 years old
01:40:11.780 will know this
01:40:12.260 the United States
01:40:13.240 that I grew up in
01:40:14.080 would have invaded
01:40:15.140 the United States
01:40:15.740 that we live in right now
01:40:16.680 I'm just saying
01:40:18.300 well the funny thing
01:40:19.380 is about the 2020 election
01:40:20.860 a lot of the things
01:40:22.000 that people are pointing out
01:40:22.780 in 2020
01:40:23.200 are used by
01:40:23.960 are used by the US
01:40:25.380 as a metric
01:40:25.860 of a bad election
01:40:26.640 in a foreign country
01:40:27.300 for sure
01:40:27.940 yeah
01:40:28.340 I ask guys
01:40:29.000 that work for the CIA
01:40:29.760 because I got some buddies
01:40:30.540 that are like CIA whistleblowers
01:40:31.820 they haven't come to public
01:40:32.580 being a whistleblower
01:40:33.320 doesn't mean you went
01:40:33.840 to the media by the way
01:40:34.560 it means you went
01:40:35.040 through one of the approved routes
01:40:36.020 right
01:40:36.300 and so I've got friends
01:40:37.460 that have gone through
01:40:37.960 the approved routes
01:40:38.500 as best they can
01:40:39.120 and he literally goes
01:40:40.080 the number one thing
01:40:41.220 you do
01:40:41.620 when there is the potential
01:40:42.760 for election
01:40:43.460 you know corruption
01:40:44.860 is you do paper ballots
01:40:46.380 one person
01:40:47.600 one vote
01:40:48.280 identification
01:40:49.040 of who that person is
01:40:50.220 oh you mean like
01:40:51.440 apparently that's all racist
01:40:52.740 if you're in America
01:40:53.380 but anywhere else
01:40:54.120 you do it
01:40:54.500 because that's how
01:40:54.960 you legitimize elections
01:40:55.740 yeah
01:40:56.160 I was in Iraq
01:40:57.460 in 2008 and 2009
01:40:59.440 and we were there
01:41:01.560 at an election time
01:41:02.960 and I think it was
01:41:04.160 the first time
01:41:04.980 women got to vote
01:41:06.360 and
01:41:07.000 or if it wasn't
01:41:08.060 the first
01:41:08.360 is one of the first
01:41:09.040 and for like
01:41:10.360 the I don't know
01:41:11.280 48 hours or so
01:41:12.360 heading into the election
01:41:13.380 it was like
01:41:14.880 every platoon
01:41:16.100 like you're going
01:41:17.440 to just be awake
01:41:18.100 and you're going
01:41:18.440 to be out patrolling
01:41:19.380 to ensure
01:41:20.460 that we can have
01:41:21.400 as safe
01:41:21.780 of an election
01:41:22.840 as possible
01:41:23.400 and it was all
01:41:24.600 paper ballots
01:41:25.220 yeah
01:41:25.760 and we were out
01:41:26.600 until all the ballots
01:41:28.060 were reported
01:41:28.740 you know
01:41:29.500 safely transported
01:41:30.740 to you know
01:41:31.860 wherever they were
01:41:32.400 taking them
01:41:32.840 in each province
01:41:33.820 well there's an incentive
01:41:35.000 for nation builders
01:41:36.940 to have a real election
01:41:37.920 in the nation
01:41:38.400 that they're trying
01:41:38.760 to build
01:41:39.060 but in the United States
01:41:39.680 where you're trying
01:41:39.980 to seize and maintain
01:41:40.920 power
01:41:41.420 that's a different question
01:41:42.280 yeah
01:41:42.500 once you have the power
01:41:43.520 it's something different
01:41:44.080 Garrett and I
01:41:44.540 were doing this riff
01:41:45.460 I was driving yesterday
01:41:46.360 or the day before
01:41:47.400 and we were talking
01:41:48.040 on the phone
01:41:48.460 and we were talking
01:41:49.200 about people go
01:41:49.660 it couldn't happen
01:41:50.240 in America
01:41:50.580 that's why people
01:41:51.160 think it is
01:41:51.560 this
01:41:51.760 I would call it
01:41:52.920 the myth
01:41:53.260 of American exceptionalism
01:41:54.360 that we're such
01:41:54.920 a special type
01:41:55.620 of people
01:41:56.040 that we would never
01:41:57.020 have a tyrannical
01:41:58.480 you know
01:41:58.800 overtaking
01:41:59.320 and that people
01:41:59.760 would not obey
01:42:00.360 the tyrannical orders
01:42:01.200 and they would do
01:42:01.600 the right thing
01:42:02.100 when push comes to shove
01:42:03.620 even though I went
01:42:04.300 and I told people
01:42:04.980 they had to have masks
01:42:05.700 and even though
01:42:06.040 I locked down churches
01:42:06.860 because I'm a cop
01:42:07.440 and I did the wrong thing
01:42:08.100 I would never put a baby
01:42:09.720 in the wood chipper
01:42:10.380 like that's the idea
01:42:11.240 that they would have
01:42:11.800 like whenever the line
01:42:12.600 comes up
01:42:13.040 I would cross
01:42:13.540 you ever heard of
01:42:14.940 a soft sale
01:42:16.620 you're familiar
01:42:17.100 with any sales technique
01:42:17.920 the soft sale
01:42:18.820 is when I get you
01:42:19.540 saying yes
01:42:20.200 oh we call it
01:42:21.220 we call it the yes train
01:42:22.200 it's the same idea
01:42:23.180 right
01:42:23.400 so any kind of salesperson
01:42:24.560 knows it soft sale
01:42:25.400 yes train
01:42:26.020 it's I get you saying yes
01:42:27.520 hey Ian
01:42:28.240 if I solved a problem
01:42:29.020 that you had
01:42:29.660 and it cost the amount
01:42:30.280 of money you had
01:42:30.740 would you be interested
01:42:31.200 in that yes
01:42:32.080 it's like man
01:42:33.620 I found this really
01:42:34.540 really great fashion
01:42:35.220 manufacturer
01:42:35.640 and they're going
01:42:35.880 to sell you
01:42:36.380 like toe socks
01:42:38.180 that actually feel
01:42:38.940 like you're not
01:42:39.300 wearing socks
01:42:39.760 would that be
01:42:40.060 interesting to you
01:42:40.600 oh yeah
01:42:41.000 oh okay right
01:42:41.520 so I get you
01:42:41.960 saying yes
01:42:42.400 yes
01:42:42.600 and how much
01:42:43.420 do you think
01:42:44.040 you can afford
01:42:44.420 something like
01:42:44.860 you know
01:42:45.060 a dollar a day
01:42:45.700 for a pair of socks
01:42:46.480 I think so
01:42:46.860 yes yes yes
01:42:48.400 you've been saying
01:42:49.280 yes all over the time
01:42:50.460 and then suddenly
01:42:51.280 you get to the point
01:42:52.200 where you're saying
01:42:52.680 yes I'm tossing
01:42:53.280 the baby in the wood chipper
01:42:53.940 or yes you're
01:42:54.540 shooting a toddler
01:42:55.040 in the back of the head
01:42:55.760 because they're so slow
01:42:56.740 getting on the box car
01:42:57.480 the yes train
01:42:58.580 in fundraising
01:42:59.140 they say get
01:42:59.740 get the person
01:43:00.620 to say yes seven times
01:43:01.820 and they will give you
01:43:02.760 their money
01:43:03.100 it's soft sales
01:43:03.860 yeah
01:43:04.220 the technique is
01:43:05.260 it's well established
01:43:06.040 I love that your chat
01:43:06.760 by the way
01:43:07.060 said that I'm on meth
01:43:07.860 because they think
01:43:08.420 that I'm talking too quickly
01:43:09.360 it's the second time
01:43:10.880 that they've done that
01:43:11.660 you'd say something like
01:43:12.760 you think over pollution
01:43:14.920 is a problem right
01:43:15.680 like pollution's a problem
01:43:17.200 right
01:43:17.460 yeah
01:43:17.920 I don't care
01:43:18.500 I'm the worst client
01:43:20.200 I'm a contrarian
01:43:21.400 nobody says that
01:43:22.140 that just will never happen
01:43:23.160 right
01:43:23.420 because there's a social pressure
01:43:24.840 on what you're starting with
01:43:25.700 well because it is
01:43:26.580 it's universally accepted
01:43:28.260 that we shouldn't
01:43:28.820 you don't want your kids
01:43:29.360 to live in a place
01:43:29.980 full of pollution do you
01:43:30.820 and so you get them
01:43:31.940 you ask them these questions
01:43:33.020 as you're doing your pitch
01:43:33.920 and you'd be like
01:43:34.500 right right
01:43:34.840 obviously you want to help
01:43:35.900 don't you
01:43:36.300 yes
01:43:36.700 of course
01:43:37.080 and that's your sixth yes
01:43:39.040 and the last yes is
01:43:40.400 so just hand me your credit card
01:43:41.480 okay
01:43:41.720 okay here you go
01:43:42.800 that sounds like a struggle session
01:43:43.980 where they're like
01:43:44.600 just one thing you don't like
01:43:45.760 about the US
01:43:46.300 no that's not a struggle session
01:43:47.860 that's not a struggle session
01:43:48.640 no what is that called
01:43:49.660 a struggle
01:43:50.080 so that's just
01:43:51.300 it's like what they would do
01:43:53.560 with prisoners
01:43:54.040 to get them to turn
01:43:54.840 on their country slowly
01:43:55.680 one day at a time
01:43:56.400 one little problem at a time
01:43:57.960 tell me about your country
01:43:58.720 a struggle session would be
01:43:59.840 you surround someone
01:44:01.000 by people screaming at them
01:44:02.060 and humiliating
01:44:02.720 not what I was thinking
01:44:03.340 humiliating them
01:44:03.700 cancel culture
01:44:04.340 and things like that
01:44:04.940 it's social
01:44:05.240 we do it online all the time now
01:44:06.600 yeah
01:44:06.900 I mean it's
01:44:07.400 there's a digital struggle session
01:44:08.520 that happens in pretty much
01:44:09.480 any of the echo chambers
01:44:10.480 if you walk into
01:44:11.600 and I know you do
01:44:12.340 and I do it as well
01:44:12.980 you walk into the space
01:44:13.880 where people are
01:44:14.920 not agreeing with you
01:44:16.100 and you just
01:44:16.680 like I'll get the
01:44:17.280 what do they call them
01:44:18.280 the fellas
01:44:18.760 the NAFOs
01:44:19.840 whatever they're called
01:44:21.180 you know
01:44:21.360 the Ukraine lunatics
01:44:23.700 oh no I don't know
01:44:24.780 oh I'll just
01:44:25.220 I'll just be like
01:44:25.780 I don't care if Ukraine loses
01:44:26.980 I actually don't
01:44:28.200 I actually just don't
01:44:29.000 I just don't care
01:44:29.520 they did lose
01:44:30.060 yeah
01:44:30.640 they got into a fight
01:44:31.840 with Russia
01:44:32.280 so Russia lost
01:44:33.680 20 million people
01:44:34.520 in World War II
01:44:35.200 the number of people
01:44:36.680 that Russia is willing
01:44:37.400 to throw
01:44:37.880 into a armed conflict
01:44:39.160 does
01:44:39.800 it defies
01:44:40.620 western capabilities
01:44:41.800 to even appreciate
01:44:42.640 it's not just that
01:44:43.180 I think it's fair to say
01:44:44.040 that
01:44:44.460 I'm looking at
01:44:46.020 the battle maps
01:44:46.860 and I'm like
01:44:47.280 oh Russia seized
01:44:48.180 the entire land bridge
01:44:49.020 into Crimea
01:44:49.420 and they're pushing
01:44:49.900 into Odessa
01:44:50.380 tell me again
01:44:51.660 how every report
01:44:52.920 they put out
01:44:53.460 about the success
01:44:54.100 of the Ukrainian
01:44:54.460 counter-offensive
01:44:55.120 it's just not true
01:44:56.260 I think
01:44:56.780 and they can do it
01:44:57.620 forever
01:44:58.020 like they will just
01:44:58.780 conscript people
01:44:59.480 they've done it
01:45:00.080 I don't even believe
01:45:01.780 I don't even believe
01:45:03.020 at this point
01:45:03.540 look we get a year
01:45:04.700 and a half
01:45:05.080 where they keep saying
01:45:06.040 Russia routed
01:45:07.060 Russia losing troops
01:45:08.100 Russian defectors
01:45:09.300 Russian troops
01:45:10.300 begging on camera
01:45:11.120 and then it's like
01:45:12.060 a year later
01:45:12.680 Russia has the down bass
01:45:13.680 and the land bridge
01:45:14.440 to Crimea
01:45:14.780 and I'm like
01:45:15.100 wait so they won
01:45:15.800 they seized
01:45:16.720 they lost their way
01:45:17.360 to winning
01:45:17.680 they were losing
01:45:18.780 the whole time
01:45:19.200 and now they're
01:45:19.560 in control of the region
01:45:20.640 if we just give
01:45:21.520 Ukraine more money
01:45:22.320 Tim
01:45:22.660 I think the control
01:45:23.960 of that eastern
01:45:24.560 Donbass
01:45:25.040 basically provides
01:45:27.000 20 to 30 percent
01:45:28.140 enhancement of their GDP
01:45:29.660 like their gross
01:45:30.620 domestic product
01:45:31.220 is going to go
01:45:31.700 off the charts
01:45:32.600 up because they have
01:45:34.020 Black Sea
01:45:34.540 and Mediterranean
01:45:35.120 access for trade
01:45:36.060 whereas we lose
01:45:36.880 very little
01:45:37.420 for seeding that
01:45:38.360 and it'd be like
01:45:39.580 if the entire
01:45:40.500 west coast
01:45:41.080 of the United States
01:45:41.580 is stripped down
01:45:42.280 the west coast
01:45:42.920 was owned by Canada
01:45:43.780 all the way down
01:45:44.580 we had no
01:45:44.980 pacific coast access
01:45:45.980 we would have
01:45:46.780 gone to war
01:45:47.200 with Canada
01:45:47.600 to take that access
01:45:48.640 we went to war
01:45:49.340 with Mexico
01:45:49.720 and did that
01:45:50.200 so in fact
01:45:52.160 we almost
01:45:52.620 took all of Mexico
01:45:54.320 but the president
01:45:55.300 I think it was Polk
01:45:55.840 at the time
01:45:56.160 was like
01:45:56.460 I'm just going to
01:45:57.280 arbitrarily give Mexico back
01:45:59.100 so I think
01:45:59.660 with the amount
01:46:00.240 to gain
01:46:00.880 the amount
01:46:01.280 that Russia
01:46:01.640 has to gain
01:46:02.300 from Sevastopol
01:46:03.340 and that
01:46:04.560 Black Sea
01:46:05.260 access
01:46:05.520 is just
01:46:05.920 that they'll
01:46:06.480 throw
01:46:06.720 everything
01:46:07.620 the amount
01:46:08.140 that they'll
01:46:08.860 throw at it
01:46:09.260 relative to
01:46:09.720 everybody else
01:46:10.280 to stop
01:46:10.780 a minor loss
01:46:11.980 I mean
01:46:12.340 obviously
01:46:12.560 I'm not speaking
01:46:13.100 for the
01:46:13.440 Ukrainian people
01:46:14.180 losing their territory
01:46:15.000 is horrible
01:46:15.500 obviously
01:46:15.840 Ukraine is getting
01:46:16.400 conscripted
01:46:17.000 and being thrown
01:46:17.720 on the front
01:46:18.120 is bad
01:46:18.380 but what I said
01:46:19.000 is this
01:46:19.720 I don't care
01:46:21.080 we have other problems
01:46:22.000 that I'm more interested in
01:46:23.040 that are closer to my babies
01:46:23.980 so I don't care
01:46:25.180 and if I say that online
01:46:26.220 to go to the struggle session piece
01:46:27.560 if I say online
01:46:28.780 that I don't care
01:46:29.400 what happens in Ukraine
01:46:30.080 it's like
01:46:30.700 I don't have the bandwidth
01:46:31.600 for that
01:46:32.060 I always tell people
01:46:33.700 that they're following
01:46:34.460 these laser pointers
01:46:35.300 of outrage
01:46:35.940 you know
01:46:36.460 there's that
01:46:37.080 like you ever
01:46:37.460 take a cat
01:46:38.280 and do the laser pointer
01:46:39.240 we were talking about
01:46:39.520 last night
01:46:39.980 talking plasma
01:46:40.800 it's military tech
01:46:41.620 you're like
01:46:42.080 and you attack the laser
01:46:43.240 right
01:46:43.480 and so like
01:46:43.880 you'll see the cat
01:46:44.560 attacks carpet
01:46:45.240 carpet carpet
01:46:45.900 goes after your couch
01:46:46.840 whatever
01:46:47.100 you're distracting the cat
01:46:48.340 that's the American people
01:46:49.400 with the outrage factory
01:46:50.340 but where's the dot coming from
01:46:51.700 it's coming from a hand
01:46:52.440 that's way away
01:46:52.980 it's never going to get struck
01:46:53.940 so if people are constantly
01:46:55.120 like oh Ukraine
01:46:55.840 I'm furious
01:46:56.460 oh like this is happening
01:46:57.620 oh that's happening
01:46:58.300 all the anger
01:46:59.200 I'll just go in and say
01:47:00.140 I don't care
01:47:00.560 and then you'll get
01:47:01.220 this swarm of wild animals
01:47:03.180 this is the struggle session
01:47:04.380 that goes on online
01:47:05.020 where they'll just like
01:47:05.580 they'll mob your feed
01:47:06.820 they'll come into your timeline
01:47:07.880 it's a digital struggle session
01:47:09.020 but they won't go and fight
01:47:09.900 but then I'll just
01:47:10.580 yeah
01:47:10.820 none of them are on the front
01:47:11.740 then I'll just turn off Twitter
01:47:12.680 and go outside
01:47:13.160 and hang out with my kids
01:47:13.780 and I don't care
01:47:14.300 if you could do that
01:47:15.420 that's the thing
01:47:18.340 you think somebody
01:47:18.980 or some group of people
01:47:19.980 is holding the laser pointer
01:47:21.120 of outrage
01:47:21.920 or do you think
01:47:22.460 it's just an emergent phenomenon
01:47:23.600 so that's the concept
01:47:24.540 of what is a deep state
01:47:25.600 and let me dig into
01:47:27.720 and I'll have Garrett's
01:47:28.620 thought on as well
01:47:29.120 but everybody uses
01:47:30.880 the word deep state
01:47:31.560 and I hate it
01:47:32.040 I actually told Vivek
01:47:32.800 that he can't use that word
01:47:33.960 because it's a sexy word
01:47:35.300 it's like an emotional word
01:47:36.440 deep state
01:47:37.920 the idea of it
01:47:38.740 is like people have these images
01:47:39.760 of like people handing dossiers
01:47:41.220 and like you know
01:47:41.840 dark
01:47:42.200 in dark alleys
01:47:43.860 or they're hanging out
01:47:44.440 at parking garages
01:47:45.220 like the deep throat idea
01:47:46.460 and there's like
01:47:47.200 information exchange
01:47:48.660 the deep state
01:47:49.600 is actually the administrative state
01:47:50.660 because administrative
01:47:51.240 is like the least sexy thing
01:47:52.440 in the world
01:47:52.860 it's like a guy
01:47:54.000 sitting in like
01:47:54.800 1980s carpet
01:47:55.820 with like shitty fluorescent lighting
01:47:57.220 at a desk
01:47:57.980 that's been there forever
01:47:58.800 it's got a coffee stain
01:47:59.940 from his predecessor
01:48:00.540 who put a pot on it
01:48:01.500 and he just hangs out there
01:48:02.740 and he's doing like
01:48:03.400 administrative stuff
01:48:04.680 it's a lot of people
01:48:05.820 that have the similar interests
01:48:07.060 and their interest is
01:48:07.920 can I make enough money
01:48:08.700 can I survive in the government
01:48:09.620 long enough
01:48:10.160 am I going to outlast
01:48:11.400 this president
01:48:11.940 which they will
01:48:12.560 and can I grow
01:48:13.840 my department enough
01:48:14.740 that I can go
01:48:15.240 and get a big job
01:48:16.000 at like GE
01:48:16.640 one of the industrial complexes
01:48:18.420 whether it be military industrial
01:48:19.620 or information industrial
01:48:21.380 or healthcare industrial complexes
01:48:23.420 can I build a system
01:48:24.660 that I can walk into
01:48:25.440 and make a bunch of money
01:48:26.200 and so
01:48:27.040 it's a bunch of people
01:48:28.160 that have the same goals
01:48:29.180 but they're not coordinating
01:48:30.460 there's not like
01:48:31.020 a tech stream
01:48:31.660 of a bunch of people
01:48:32.280 like at the DOJ
01:48:32.960 like how do we F over
01:48:34.120 all the Trump supporters
01:48:34.860 they just all hate
01:48:35.520 the Trump supporters
01:48:36.080 and so they all just do things
01:48:37.040 that screw Trump supporters
01:48:37.920 that's administrative state
01:48:39.720 and so I don't think
01:48:40.900 there's one hand
01:48:41.500 holding any laser pointer
01:48:42.440 it's not the X files
01:48:43.580 which would be really cool
01:48:44.840 by the way
01:48:45.240 if there was a bunch of people
01:48:46.220 that met in like trench coats
01:48:47.160 and like smoked cigars
01:48:47.920 in a room
01:48:48.300 there's probably
01:48:49.300 some of those people
01:48:49.900 somewhere doing something
01:48:51.040 but it's not the things
01:48:52.040 that are running our government
01:48:52.780 at least not on the
01:48:53.580 like they don't have
01:48:54.160 their hand on the lever
01:48:54.880 I think it's much easier
01:48:55.820 to combat
01:48:56.420 an emergent phenomenon
01:48:57.720 than a cabal
01:48:59.060 personally
01:48:59.880 so that gives me hope
01:49:01.260 you think an emergent phenomenon
01:49:03.500 is easier
01:49:03.980 I think it's easier
01:49:04.280 to seed your own
01:49:05.140 emergent phenomenon
01:49:05.900 than to try and displace
01:49:06.880 an entrenched cabal
01:49:08.180 I think it's
01:49:08.960 a little bit of both
01:49:10.280 there's obviously
01:49:11.360 it's totally entrenched though
01:49:12.300 during Occupy Wall Street
01:49:13.900 they introduced
01:49:14.940 critical race theory stuff
01:49:16.660 which shattered
01:49:17.960 the anti-establishment movement
01:49:21.080 which was bipartisan
01:49:22.020 I mean it was
01:49:22.660 libertarians
01:49:23.480 conservatives
01:49:23.940 democrats
01:49:24.780 leftists
01:49:25.280 were all like
01:49:25.700 hey it's bad
01:49:26.220 what the government
01:49:26.540 is doing
01:49:26.900 then they introduced
01:49:28.240 critical race theory
01:49:29.080 and all of a sudden
01:49:29.460 everyone's fighting over
01:49:30.160 skin color
01:49:31.100 instead of
01:49:31.740 well then it becomes
01:49:32.340 moral
01:49:32.700 it becomes religious
01:49:33.820 but I do think
01:49:35.420 critical race theory
01:49:36.280 is a phenomenon
01:49:37.340 of social media platforms
01:49:39.040 because what happens is
01:49:40.900 with the rise of Facebook
01:49:43.780 and the algorithms
01:49:44.440 which promoted content
01:49:45.500 articles that talk about
01:49:47.560 injustice do well
01:49:48.500 rage shares the most
01:49:49.840 so if you made it
01:49:51.180 so when all these companies
01:49:52.560 are experimenting
01:49:53.160 with how to maximize traffic
01:49:54.480 what they ultimately
01:49:55.440 discovered was
01:49:56.340 police brutality
01:49:57.820 makes a ton of money
01:49:58.500 people hate watch
01:50:00.840 police brutality videos
01:50:01.860 and then share it like crazy
01:50:03.180 because of a sense of injustice
01:50:04.240 but if you add racism
01:50:06.380 sexism
01:50:07.180 homophobia
01:50:07.680 and all these things
01:50:08.400 to the mix of police brutality
01:50:09.660 now you've got
01:50:10.480 fruit punch
01:50:11.260 now it's a
01:50:11.700 now it's getting 10 times
01:50:13.080 it's getting an exponential return
01:50:14.420 that's scary
01:50:15.000 which so imagine someone
01:50:16.120 born in the year 2000
01:50:16.940 they're
01:50:18.260 let's say 1998
01:50:19.300 so they're 10 years old
01:50:20.680 they're starting to get
01:50:21.140 on social media
01:50:21.700 maybe they shouldn't
01:50:22.380 too young
01:50:22.680 but they are
01:50:23.120 and they see nothing
01:50:24.300 but police brutality videos
01:50:25.820 it's the only thing
01:50:27.020 hitting their feeds
01:50:28.120 now it's 2012
01:50:29.420 now they're a little bit older
01:50:31.020 the only thing they see
01:50:32.900 on these platforms
01:50:33.760 is constant streams
01:50:34.660 of police brutality
01:50:35.200 at one point
01:50:35.760 there was a website
01:50:36.800 that did nothing
01:50:37.700 but police brutality videos
01:50:38.780 and it was the 400th
01:50:39.920 biggest website in the world
01:50:40.880 or somewhere around there
01:50:41.980 making millions of dollars
01:50:43.360 this is what the algorithms
01:50:45.080 had produced
01:50:45.720 you get a generation
01:50:46.880 of people who are raised
01:50:48.100 believing
01:50:49.120 that
01:50:50.020 this is why
01:50:50.900 this is why
01:50:51.300 when you go to
01:50:51.880 they have these
01:50:53.180 Man of the Street videos
01:50:53.840 a guy went to
01:50:54.460 Venice Beach Skate Park
01:50:55.700 he said
01:50:55.940 how many black people
01:50:57.340 innocent black people
01:50:58.020 do you think are killed
01:50:58.560 by police every year
01:50:59.340 they're like thousands
01:51:00.340 a few thousand
01:51:00.840 and it was like nine
01:51:02.020 and it's like
01:51:03.000 and nine's bad
01:51:03.660 it's single digits
01:51:04.320 but like a thousand
01:51:06.320 it's because
01:51:07.400 when you grow up
01:51:08.820 imagine if when you were
01:51:10.240 growing up
01:51:10.880 I mean for those of us
01:51:11.700 that are older
01:51:11.980 those of us that are younger
01:51:13.220 probably already get this
01:51:14.000 because they experienced
01:51:14.700 in their formative years
01:51:16.540 social media
01:51:17.200 I grew up with
01:51:18.720 televisions
01:51:19.660 and like UHF VHF
01:51:21.780 when I was a little kid
01:51:22.460 imagine if
01:51:23.480 every single channel
01:51:24.700 every single day
01:51:25.980 every news broadcaster
01:51:27.240 every nightly news report
01:51:28.160 was nothing but police
01:51:29.380 are murdering innocent people
01:51:30.520 you know what it was
01:51:31.040 back then
01:51:31.340 it'd be a crisis
01:51:31.660 it was kids getting kidnapped
01:51:32.720 do you remember
01:51:33.060 in the 80s
01:51:34.080 everybody thought
01:51:34.580 they were going to get kidnapped
01:51:35.220 at any moment
01:51:35.800 because whole comedy routines
01:51:37.100 about how like
01:51:37.640 not if you're going to get kidnapped
01:51:39.260 but when you're kidnapped
01:51:40.260 what you're supposed to do
01:51:41.460 they would go out
01:51:42.120 and fingerprint kids
01:51:43.000 at like parks
01:51:43.540 and stuff
01:51:44.260 we all thought
01:51:44.980 we were going to get kidnapped
01:51:45.720 in the 80s growing up
01:51:46.640 it's the weirdest thing
01:51:47.340 in the world
01:51:47.700 and it was rare
01:51:48.320 because it was rage fed
01:51:49.580 don't talk to strangers
01:51:50.220 but they knew the ratings
01:51:51.240 were good
01:51:51.680 because parents were scared
01:51:52.760 so then social media
01:51:54.220 begins targeting
01:51:54.920 a bunch of different groups
01:51:55.840 in similar ways
01:51:56.740 and police brutality
01:51:57.420 becomes the thing
01:51:58.160 and there's a feedback loop
01:51:59.280 of that algorithm
01:51:59.900 because if you consume it
01:52:00.800 it's going to feed you more of it
01:52:01.920 well of course
01:52:02.580 and then people are going to
01:52:03.680 seek out more of it
01:52:04.500 and then people are going to
01:52:05.580 exaggerate
01:52:06.020 they're going to lie
01:52:06.620 then you're going to get
01:52:07.300 written articles
01:52:07.920 which fabricate stories
01:52:09.040 you're going to get
01:52:09.740 then you're going to end up
01:52:10.780 with where we are today
01:52:11.560 with stories like Ahmaud Arbery
01:52:12.540 a guy who is a felony
01:52:14.340 burglary suspect
01:52:15.240 who fights with some locals
01:52:16.980 over their shotgun
01:52:17.840 and dies in the process
01:52:18.940 tragic event
01:52:19.840 but it turns into
01:52:20.920 a lynch mob
01:52:21.880 killed a man
01:52:22.900 who was just juggling
01:52:23.480 yeah they went out
01:52:23.500 and hunted him down
01:52:24.260 like a bunch of guys
01:52:25.380 even the story
01:52:26.200 if people look back
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01:52:32.940 behind a truck
01:52:33.960 I think his last name
01:52:35.120 is Bird
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01:54:25.260 I think both the guys
01:54:26.180 had shared a prison cell
01:54:27.680 at one point in time
01:54:28.440 there was all these
01:54:29.040 connections between these
01:54:29.800 dudes
01:54:29.920 it was an utterly
01:54:30.720 personal thing
01:54:31.580 like dragging someone
01:54:32.200 behind your truck
01:54:32.700 is a personal thing
01:54:33.260 to wait to kill somebody
01:54:34.000 it's pretty horrific
01:54:34.940 and yet it had
01:54:36.040 very little to do
01:54:36.780 with race
01:54:37.240 it had a lot to do
01:54:37.940 with the personal
01:54:38.420 animosity
01:54:38.940 that this guy went out
01:54:40.000 and he was like
01:54:40.480 sending a message
01:54:41.100 and obviously he did
01:54:42.020 and so many people
01:54:43.080 got the wrong reaction
01:54:44.140 from it
01:54:44.440 and they all know
01:54:45.180 things that are not true
01:54:46.100 same thing with
01:54:46.880 Massey Shepard
01:54:47.520 people know things
01:54:48.740 they know them
01:54:49.600 in their heart
01:54:50.180 that are not true
01:54:51.140 they do not
01:54:51.780 substantiate with the
01:54:52.660 facts of the case
01:54:53.320 well I think a lot
01:54:54.020 of people too
01:54:54.540 they
01:54:54.840 they
01:54:55.820 buy into the false
01:54:57.820 narrative right from
01:54:58.520 the start
01:54:58.920 so I was hired
01:54:59.820 by my police
01:55:00.600 department
01:55:00.900 in May of 2014
01:55:02.180 the Ferguson unrest
01:55:03.980 with the shooting
01:55:05.180 of Michael Brown
01:55:05.780 started in August
01:55:06.760 and I
01:55:08.040 so I followed
01:55:08.720 that pretty closely
01:55:09.600 because it was
01:55:10.240 directly related
01:55:11.340 to my new
01:55:12.320 profession
01:55:12.900 my new line
01:55:13.420 of work
01:55:13.780 and
01:55:14.520 at the end
01:55:15.420 of the day
01:55:15.900 Eric Holder
01:55:17.580 and Barack Obama's
01:55:19.160 DOJ
01:55:19.720 ruled that
01:55:20.780 Officer Wilson
01:55:21.700 shot Michael Brown
01:55:22.580 in self defense
01:55:23.240 it was a legitimate
01:55:23.940 use of deadly force
01:55:25.260 how many people
01:55:26.480 out there still
01:55:27.180 believe the myth
01:55:28.600 hands up
01:55:29.620 don't shoot
01:55:30.100 I bet
01:55:30.880 most people do
01:55:32.340 I'd say
01:55:32.920 every Democrat
01:55:34.060 yeah
01:55:34.520 every single one
01:55:35.420 just like they think
01:55:36.100 50% of the people
01:55:36.960 who got COVID
01:55:37.420 died from it
01:55:38.020 I mean
01:55:38.760 I think
01:55:39.700 the polling showed
01:55:40.840 that Democrats
01:55:41.880 believe around
01:55:42.320 20% of people
01:55:43.180 died from COVID
01:55:43.840 I've seen some
01:55:44.940 that have been
01:55:45.240 higher than that
01:55:45.900 which is amazing
01:55:46.520 to me
01:55:46.860 the tendency
01:55:47.380 for people
01:55:47.800 to believe
01:55:48.160 what they hear
01:55:48.540 the first thing
01:55:49.160 they hear
01:55:49.580 about something
01:55:50.160 is incredibly
01:55:50.780 powerful
01:55:51.340 trusted source
01:55:52.100 even think of
01:55:52.800 our buddy
01:55:53.600 Steve Friend
01:55:54.060 maybe even me
01:55:55.060 we've had
01:55:55.520 articles later
01:55:56.820 that were
01:55:57.180 redacted
01:55:57.960 or
01:55:58.220 retracted
01:56:00.020 or they
01:56:00.500 made an
01:56:01.520 editorial
01:56:02.060 change to it
01:56:03.160 because they
01:56:03.780 were wrong
01:56:04.280 how many people
01:56:05.460 read those
01:56:05.920 my favorite
01:56:07.040 is NBC News
01:56:07.900 they wrote a
01:56:08.800 fake article
01:56:09.900 about me
01:56:10.360 which then
01:56:11.320 got picked up
01:56:11.980 by a bunch
01:56:12.420 of other
01:56:12.660 outlets
01:56:12.920 like Variety
01:56:13.520 and Deadline
01:56:14.020 and then
01:56:14.720 quickly removed
01:56:15.740 the lies
01:56:16.300 they had put
01:56:16.700 in it
01:56:17.040 and so
01:56:17.680 they created
01:56:18.080 a feedback
01:56:18.540 loop
01:56:18.960 of a bunch
01:56:19.960 of outlets
01:56:20.300 all citing
01:56:20.820 each other
01:56:21.300 NBC
01:56:21.980 basically
01:56:22.580 seeds the
01:56:23.140 story
01:56:23.460 Deadline
01:56:24.580 Variety
01:56:25.080 insert
01:56:25.760 tells a
01:56:26.560 story
01:56:26.840 and then
01:56:27.540 they back
01:56:28.280 away from
01:56:29.140 it
01:56:29.340 remove that
01:56:30.280 reference
01:56:30.740 and now
01:56:31.300 you've got
01:56:31.520 all these
01:56:32.000 articles
01:56:32.300 referencing
01:56:32.600 each other
01:56:32.880 Deadline
01:56:33.260 reports
01:56:33.500 that Variety
01:56:34.000 reports
01:56:34.400 and then
01:56:36.320 when you
01:56:37.480 reach out
01:56:37.760 to the
01:56:37.920 journalist
01:56:38.140 and say
01:56:38.500 hey
01:56:39.060 what your
01:56:39.320 report
01:56:39.520 is not
01:56:39.740 true
01:56:39.940 but I
01:56:40.220 didn't
01:56:40.320 report
01:56:40.600 it
01:56:40.700 was
01:56:40.780 reported
01:56:41.000 by Variety
01:56:41.460 and I'll
01:56:41.920 be like
01:56:42.060 yes
01:56:42.240 but Variety
01:56:43.100 is citing
01:56:43.460 Deadline
01:56:43.820 and Deadline
01:56:44.140 citing you
01:56:44.620 and they'll
01:56:45.300 be like
01:56:45.680 well we're
01:56:46.420 referencing
01:56:46.680 someone else
01:56:47.120 it's the
01:56:47.560 meme of
01:56:47.900 Superman
01:56:48.220 pointing at
01:56:48.620 Superman
01:56:48.940 Spider-Man
01:56:53.460 paid them
01:56:53.800 for their
01:56:54.060 testimony
01:56:54.400 this was
01:56:55.380 the thing
01:56:55.600 that went
01:56:55.800 out there
01:56:56.040 New York
01:56:56.260 Times
01:56:56.500 covered it
01:56:56.860 New York
01:56:57.180 or a whole
01:56:57.460 bunch of
01:56:57.740 lefty sources
01:56:58.220 CNN
01:56:58.560 and so on
01:56:59.000 and like
01:56:59.640 you want
01:57:00.280 to tell
01:57:00.480 people how
01:57:00.800 you left
01:57:01.060 your job
01:57:01.420 for like
01:57:01.760 a few
01:57:01.940 thousand dollars
01:57:02.600 it's so
01:57:03.280 absurd
01:57:03.700 because
01:57:04.420 people believe
01:57:05.440 this myth
01:57:06.000 I was suspended
01:57:07.280 September 26th
01:57:08.600 of last year
01:57:09.220 I had never
01:57:10.660 spoken to
01:57:11.200 Kash Patel
01:57:11.720 until November
01:57:13.000 of 2022
01:57:14.880 after I'd been
01:57:15.680 suspended
01:57:16.140 and so he
01:57:17.540 had heard
01:57:17.920 of my story
01:57:18.680 Kyle put us
01:57:20.060 in touch
01:57:20.500 and he's like
01:57:20.960 hey I have
01:57:21.300 this foundation
01:57:21.920 you're not
01:57:22.820 you know
01:57:23.060 the FBI
01:57:23.440 suspended
01:57:23.920 you
01:57:24.180 they're
01:57:24.420 stripping
01:57:24.760 everything
01:57:25.100 away
01:57:25.480 you know
01:57:26.440 I told
01:57:26.760 him like
01:57:26.980 yeah we
01:57:27.220 just had
01:57:27.520 a baby
01:57:27.940 like
01:57:28.280 we're
01:57:29.040 couldn't
01:57:29.500 even
01:57:29.620 he put
01:57:29.940 couldn't
01:57:30.120 even put
01:57:30.340 coats
01:57:30.600 on his
01:57:30.840 kids
01:57:31.020 yeah
01:57:31.200 yeah
01:57:31.480 because
01:57:31.680 they held
01:57:32.040 our
01:57:32.220 belongings
01:57:32.760 for
01:57:33.300 for six
01:57:33.820 weeks
01:57:34.040 too
01:57:34.280 and
01:57:35.080 and
01:57:36.220 and
01:57:36.520 he's like
01:57:36.960 well
01:57:37.200 I think
01:57:37.600 I think
01:57:37.940 my foundation
01:57:38.520 could probably
01:57:39.020 help you
01:57:39.340 out
01:57:39.640 if
01:57:39.960 that would
01:57:41.160 be okay
01:57:41.460 with you
01:57:41.700 what did
01:57:41.940 he ask
01:57:42.220 for
01:57:42.400 what did
01:57:42.720 he want
01:57:42.980 nothing
01:57:43.420 he didn't
01:57:44.040 he didn't
01:57:44.340 want to
01:57:44.580 know
01:57:44.720 anything
01:57:45.020 about
01:57:45.400 what I
01:57:45.980 made
01:57:46.120 protected
01:57:46.480 disclosures
01:57:46.980 about
01:57:47.260 he didn't
01:57:47.780 want to
01:57:48.040 know
01:57:48.260 anything
01:57:48.820 about
01:57:49.140 my
01:57:49.400 professional
01:57:49.880 work
01:57:50.340 he just
01:57:51.160 said
01:57:51.380 I heard
01:57:51.680 the FBI
01:57:52.000 suspend
01:57:52.300 you
01:57:52.540 and
01:57:53.200 this is
01:57:53.880 how the
01:57:54.260 media
01:57:54.520 operates
01:57:55.220 we've
01:57:55.860 talked about
01:57:56.140 this before
01:57:56.380 it's hilarious
01:57:56.820 they'll say
01:57:58.160 something like
01:57:58.980 Jack Nicholson
01:58:00.320 and Britney Spears
01:58:00.940 get married
01:58:01.380 and then the
01:58:02.780 average person
01:58:03.220 goes
01:58:03.500 what
01:58:04.260 she married
01:58:05.520 Jack
01:58:05.700 no no no
01:58:06.660 Jack Nicholson
01:58:07.400 got married
01:58:07.780 and also
01:58:08.740 Britney Spears
01:58:09.260 got married
01:58:09.560 to different
01:58:10.060 people
01:58:10.380 technically
01:58:11.040 accurate
01:58:11.700 visually
01:58:12.400 impactful
01:58:13.220 was it
01:58:13.840 factual but
01:58:14.340 not truthful
01:58:14.800 that's what
01:58:15.280 Michael Mell says
01:58:15.780 that's a good
01:58:16.160 one
01:58:16.440 so what
01:58:17.300 they'll do
01:58:17.640 is they'll
01:58:17.920 say something
01:58:18.380 like let's
01:58:19.240 say you
01:58:20.360 quit your
01:58:21.120 job in
01:58:22.920 2020 and
01:58:24.000 you worked
01:58:24.560 for the
01:58:26.020 cracker factory
01:58:26.640 and then in
01:58:27.780 2022 you get
01:58:28.700 hired by a
01:58:29.680 graham cracker
01:58:30.460 factory and
01:58:31.380 the founder
01:58:31.720 pays you a
01:58:32.240 huge bonus
01:58:32.820 of $200,000
01:58:33.680 to start and
01:58:34.740 you're like it's
01:58:35.120 been two years
01:58:35.720 I've been
01:58:36.060 traveling around
01:58:36.420 the world
01:58:36.660 wasn't really
01:58:36.980 thinking about
01:58:37.280 crackers I'm
01:58:38.020 in the
01:58:38.180 cracker field
01:58:38.600 I get this
01:58:38.920 job the
01:58:39.720 media will
01:58:40.120 report CEO
01:58:41.660 pays $200,000
01:58:43.120 to so and so
01:58:44.760 who had who
01:58:45.460 just quits
01:58:46.000 their job to
01:58:46.520 work for
01:58:46.800 them or
01:58:47.920 something like
01:58:48.280 that they can
01:58:49.380 make it seem
01:58:50.080 like these two
01:58:50.740 things that are
01:58:51.180 totally separate
01:58:51.800 from each other
01:58:52.120 it's a cut edit
01:58:52.940 or a jump
01:58:53.360 edit and it's
01:58:54.180 so actually a
01:58:54.740 really great
01:58:55.060 example is the
01:58:55.800 the viral video
01:58:56.540 of the guys
01:58:56.960 digging the
01:58:57.300 hole in the
01:58:57.580 beach and I
01:58:59.160 just I
01:58:59.600 absolutely despise
01:59:00.600 how everyone
01:59:00.980 falls for this
01:59:01.820 there's a
01:59:02.820 do you see this
01:59:03.740 video no
01:59:04.460 it's a some
01:59:05.480 guys are on a
01:59:05.920 beach digging a
01:59:06.400 hole and it
01:59:06.780 says here's the
01:59:07.300 hole we dug on
01:59:07.900 Saturday then it
01:59:09.060 jumps to a news
01:59:09.760 report where they're
01:59:10.420 like a hole in the
01:59:11.400 beach may have been a
01:59:12.340 astrological impact and
01:59:13.780 a guy saying look at
01:59:14.560 this rock that was
01:59:15.220 found it scorched it
01:59:15.980 was in the hole and
01:59:17.060 then everyone just
01:59:17.900 shares it like ha ha
01:59:19.140 ha these guys dug a
01:59:20.020 hole in the media
01:59:20.560 then lied about it
01:59:21.480 no dude you got
01:59:22.940 played someone saw a
01:59:25.160 news report of a
01:59:25.940 hole in the beach
01:59:26.480 then went and dug a
01:59:28.060 hole and put their
01:59:29.260 clip in front of it to
01:59:30.640 trick you into thinking
01:59:31.480 the media got it wrong
01:59:32.240 it's all the
01:59:33.320 manipulation game
01:59:34.120 everyone just bought
01:59:35.220 it and I'm just like
01:59:36.220 people want to
01:59:37.640 believe what they want
01:59:38.100 to believe man it's
01:59:38.900 that simple
01:59:39.320 Mike Rowe was so
01:59:40.260 eloquent about talking
01:59:41.600 about what the let's
01:59:42.360 go Brandon phenomenon
01:59:43.260 was and people were
01:59:44.580 always like oh it's
01:59:45.360 just being mean to
01:59:46.120 Joe Biden it's a it's
01:59:47.140 a way to hide profanity
01:59:48.040 and what it really was
01:59:48.920 was something where
01:59:49.720 people recognized that
01:59:51.020 they were being played
01:59:51.920 something was happening
01:59:53.100 in live TV some woman
01:59:54.860 said something that was
01:59:55.900 absurdly different it
01:59:57.080 had nothing to do with
01:59:57.960 what was happening
01:59:58.460 around them listen to
01:59:59.220 them they're all
01:59:59.620 chanting let's go
02:00:00.360 Brandon and they were
02:00:01.560 chanting something that
02:00:02.360 was not that they were
02:00:03.360 not saying F Joe
02:00:04.280 Biden correct yes
02:00:05.100 that's where the crowd
02:00:05.860 is yelling F Joe
02:00:07.020 Biden and she's like
02:00:07.780 they're saying let's go
02:00:08.700 Brandon and so she
02:00:10.140 says that and
02:00:11.180 everybody puts that on
02:00:12.200 the shirt not because
02:00:12.980 they're saying F Joe
02:00:13.720 Biden although some
02:00:14.440 people obviously did
02:00:15.140 what they did say was
02:00:16.420 the media is lying to
02:00:18.020 us they actually lie to
02:00:19.300 our faces when the
02:00:20.200 proof is in front of
02:00:21.140 us yep and so that
02:00:22.160 was why it was so
02:00:22.880 important and then of
02:00:24.260 course it was more
02:00:24.740 important because Joe
02:00:25.420 Biden agreed with it so
02:00:26.200 whenever I wrote that
02:00:26.940 on my whiteboard at
02:00:27.660 work I just quoted the
02:00:28.820 president on December
02:00:30.060 24th of 2021 he said I
02:00:31.780 agree let's go Brandon
02:00:32.580 so I also agree let's go
02:00:33.920 Brandon but there's
02:00:34.920 something sad about
02:00:35.680 when it happens in real
02:00:36.620 time and people eyeball
02:00:37.600 it and then the media
02:00:38.220 then they play it
02:00:38.960 again everyone's being
02:00:40.300 mean to Joe Biden it's
02:00:41.260 like no you clowns came
02:00:42.860 out and outed yourself
02:00:43.980 and everybody saw it on
02:00:45.500 national live TV and why
02:00:46.580 did she feel like she had
02:00:47.240 to lie about it it's so
02:00:48.540 bizarre but they're
02:00:49.120 compelled to it's what
02:00:49.820 they do all the time it's
02:00:50.640 what they do I mean it
02:00:51.760 really does make you
02:00:52.420 wonder when they
02:00:52.880 seemingly lie for for
02:00:54.080 just absolute BS
02:00:55.120 reasons but they do I'm
02:00:56.620 telling you man people
02:00:57.700 need to understand that you
02:01:00.160 know so we got we got a
02:01:01.060 request recently for me
02:01:02.240 it happens periodically
02:01:03.160 like the New York Times
02:01:03.840 wanted to talk to me
02:01:04.320 about something and I'm
02:01:04.940 like yeah good good yeah
02:01:06.240 right hard pass not gonna
02:01:07.960 happen there some things I
02:01:10.640 have no problem if I get
02:01:11.400 it so I got directly
02:01:12.440 contacted by someone at
02:01:13.380 Washington Post about
02:01:14.240 something and I gave them
02:01:15.560 a quote I'm like whatever
02:01:16.640 I don't care but on some
02:01:18.560 issues and a lot on most
02:01:20.100 issues I won't engage with
02:01:22.680 these people because they
02:01:23.600 will lie 100% of the time
02:01:27.060 they will say 100% they'll
02:01:28.900 they'll be like this thing
02:01:30.080 dot dot dot ellipses leaving
02:01:32.060 out of context and then
02:01:33.060 they'll just say something
02:01:33.680 better than the opposite
02:01:34.620 they they use their
02:01:35.400 opinions to formulate what
02:01:36.500 you really said so they'll
02:01:37.960 ask you something like
02:01:39.020 Kyle what are your thoughts
02:01:40.940 on January 6th and you'll
02:01:42.440 say something like what an
02:01:43.620 awful day an awful day I
02:01:46.000 mean that none of that
02:01:46.580 should have happened I am
02:01:47.820 right Ryan Riley did this
02:01:48.840 to me and then what they'll
02:01:50.800 do is they won't they won't
02:01:51.680 quote you they'll say when
02:01:53.260 asked for a comment they
02:01:54.280 began to lament that Donald
02:01:55.980 Trump lost the election and
02:01:57.360 said that what had happened
02:01:58.240 to Trump was awful seemingly
02:01:59.680 in support of the rioters
02:02:00.840 like what yeah I was
02:02:02.200 criticizing the riot right
02:02:03.460 no they can just interpret
02:02:04.600 it how they how they see
02:02:05.400 fit and then you can't sue
02:02:06.520 them because they'll be
02:02:07.100 like well that's how I
02:02:07.740 understood it yeah yeah
02:02:08.780 this happened this happened
02:02:09.640 has happened to me Kyle and
02:02:10.900 Steve I was deposed in
02:02:12.740 February by Republican and
02:02:14.660 Democrat attorneys and then
02:02:16.320 I testified publicly in May
02:02:17.680 in the in the interim the
02:02:19.400 Democrats had leaked little
02:02:21.260 pieces of my testimony and
02:02:23.040 editorialize themselves to the
02:02:25.320 New York Times and some
02:02:26.060 other places and they love to
02:02:28.400 say oh they just believe
02:02:29.520 conspiracy theories about
02:02:30.440 January 6th yeah when I
02:02:32.020 talked about January 6th I
02:02:33.180 talked I talked about a lead
02:02:34.640 that I received where then
02:02:36.440 the FBI told me that they
02:02:38.020 had facial recognition match
02:02:40.180 for the guy they wanted me
02:02:41.740 to investigate they used a
02:02:43.300 driver's license photo that
02:02:44.360 was 25 years old to get the
02:02:46.300 facial recognition match so I
02:02:48.720 don't care the type of case if
02:02:50.640 it's an Antifa case a January
02:02:52.320 6th case a bank robbery I
02:02:54.140 don't care if you send me a
02:02:56.100 photo from 25 years ago and
02:02:57.840 say you got a facial
02:02:59.120 recognition match that's a
02:03:01.020 problem a really big problem
02:03:02.700 it forbids due process and so
02:03:05.240 I mean you know I obviously I
02:03:06.960 worked that case or that lead
02:03:09.420 like harder than I've worked
02:03:11.620 many other leads because I was
02:03:13.220 like I could smell the roses I'm
02:03:15.420 like something's not right about
02:03:16.900 this and this was early this was
02:03:18.160 you know January 15th or
02:03:19.940 something January 20th of of
02:03:21.700 2021 and it's and then they say
02:03:25.220 oh he just has conspiracy
02:03:26.140 they do the thing where they're
02:03:27.260 like you know Kevin McCarthy
02:03:28.740 opens impeachment inquiry
02:03:29.680 despite no evidence of Joe
02:03:30.840 Biden committing a crime there's
02:03:31.640 no evidence yeah but here's
02:03:32.700 here's the issue aside from the
02:03:33.860 fact that there is evidence of
02:03:34.740 a crime an inquiry is the
02:03:36.420 seeking of the evidence right
02:03:37.780 right an inquiry is hey we've
02:03:39.780 got some we've got probable
02:03:41.300 cause yeah let's investigate to
02:03:43.160 see if there's evidence you
02:03:43.740 don't need probable cause
02:03:44.480 actually to open
02:03:45.040 investigations that's not the
02:03:46.160 FBI standard for sure we
02:03:47.280 don't need probable cause means
02:03:48.360 we're serving a search warrant
02:03:49.220 we're gonna go get it what what
02:03:50.600 the what the requirement is is a
02:03:53.060 credible allegation or
02:03:55.240 information that a crime has
02:03:56.540 committed been committed so is
02:03:57.900 there an allegation or
02:03:58.980 information that crime may have
02:04:00.220 been going on we see it
02:04:02.280 underneath Biden's you know
02:04:03.540 political influence the obvious
02:04:04.820 answer is yes there are
02:04:06.280 allegations and there's some
02:04:07.340 information the purpose the
02:04:09.060 purpose is to taint to poison
02:04:10.780 the well right so that someone
02:04:12.360 what you'll get is the average
02:04:13.840 person saying they're trying to
02:04:15.020 impeach Joe Biden with no
02:04:15.900 evidence of a crime the
02:04:17.060 appropriate response is they're
02:04:19.080 investigating to see if there
02:04:20.080 was a crime what do you mean
02:04:20.720 like they're not impeaching him
02:04:21.960 right now they're saying it's a
02:04:23.020 probe they're there yeah it's a
02:04:24.520 probe there's been a bunch of
02:04:25.440 accusations of criminal activity
02:04:26.860 do you do you think that if and
02:04:29.140 as a good way I put it for
02:04:30.320 everybody if if one of your
02:04:31.480 family members or friends is
02:04:32.420 like why are they doing this
02:04:33.300 say I mean if someone's accused
02:04:35.300 of a crime should the federal
02:04:36.800 should the law enforcement do
02:04:38.360 some kind of investigation into
02:04:39.420 that crime so let's say like a
02:04:41.180 woman gets raped and then she
02:04:42.360 goes to the police and says I
02:04:43.060 was raped they say do you have
02:04:43.740 evidence she goes no well then
02:04:45.240 they should say okay well we're
02:04:46.000 gonna try and see if there's
02:04:46.680 evidence to support this claim
02:04:48.100 this woman's made or you don't
02:04:49.300 want to do what they did or
02:04:50.040 Donald Trump there was an
02:04:51.120 allegation and then they
02:04:51.960 impeached him right you could do
02:04:53.640 that and and I'm not the
02:04:54.940 biggest Trump fan in the world
02:04:55.760 he's not like a role model to
02:04:56.720 my children I think he makes
02:04:57.580 some bad decisions I think he
02:04:58.840 actually he's his own worst
02:05:00.100 enemy in many ways but looking
02:05:01.320 at what happened to him just
02:05:02.260 objectively you can look and
02:05:03.720 say is this being treated in
02:05:05.400 the same way and the answer is
02:05:06.620 of course no the like one of the
02:05:08.340 proudest moments for me is the
02:05:09.360 fact that I got suspended from
02:05:10.260 the FBI before they went into
02:05:11.280 Miralago I know people that
02:05:12.860 were at Miralago like I know
02:05:14.560 like my old my old office was in
02:05:16.760 Washington DC in judicial
02:05:17.720 square and we're friends with
02:05:19.160 these people yeah I mean we had
02:05:20.840 lunch occasionally like
02:05:21.660 they're they're people that
02:05:22.380 were on my academy class
02:05:24.180 roster that I would sit and
02:05:26.020 you know I know pretty well
02:05:27.080 that were there they were
02:05:28.020 involved in it you want to
02:05:29.060 know something not to get
02:05:29.700 conspiratorial but the group
02:05:30.900 that went in and engaged in
02:05:33.580 the the process there that
02:05:34.980 went down to Miralago to do
02:05:35.840 it was with a group called
02:05:36.860 CI 14 that's counter
02:05:39.160 intelligence 14 they're the
02:05:40.180 Russian espionage squad that's
02:05:41.440 what they did wow that's right
02:05:42.980 yeah I think we were reading
02:05:43.880 about that so they went there
02:05:45.140 and did that I know guys on
02:05:46.240 the squad I'm not going to say
02:05:47.240 anybody's names because
02:05:47.880 they're decent human beings
02:05:48.680 like they're but they did
02:05:49.460 things that I think are
02:05:50.100 ordinary men like I think
02:05:51.160 that's a problem they're
02:05:51.760 evil but here's the other
02:05:52.680 funality of does anyone
02:05:53.660 know did you guys see I
02:05:55.040 congratulated the other day
02:05:55.900 for how FBI they caught the
02:05:57.660 pipe bomber from January 6
02:05:59.020 they did tell me about it
02:06:00.680 yeah no they didn't they
02:06:01.500 have it still right so I
02:06:03.060 guess who got the pipe
02:06:03.780 bomber case right off the
02:06:04.540 bat same group CI 14 yeah
02:06:06.820 why yeah it might just be
02:06:09.840 coincidence because they
02:06:10.580 didn't have the band
02:06:11.200 because they were so
02:06:11.880 overwhelmed how weird is
02:06:13.100 that though it's so weird
02:06:14.060 and so like you know you
02:06:15.120 can have your people that
02:06:15.880 are there in the audience
02:06:16.520 are gonna go like oh my
02:06:17.180 god wait why would a CI
02:06:18.900 squad get a bombing same
02:06:20.800 question I had when we
02:06:21.580 got put on the
02:06:22.040 surveillance for it it's
02:06:23.140 like why why is CI 14
02:06:24.260 running that's weird why
02:06:25.360 because it's because it's
02:06:26.420 their inside unit that or
02:06:28.380 or which is possible this
02:06:30.240 is that they were so
02:06:31.000 overwhelmed by January 6
02:06:32.160 stuff and they were
02:06:32.840 anybody who thinks the
02:06:34.080 FBI quote-unquote planned
02:06:35.520 January 6 I'm not saying
02:06:36.900 that there wasn't a plan
02:06:38.140 for people in places but
02:06:39.860 the FBI certainly didn't
02:06:40.860 quarterback it out of
02:06:41.500 Washington field if it was
02:06:42.780 done it had to been out of
02:06:43.740 headquarters it's more
02:06:44.500 likely that there were a
02:06:45.200 lot of co-aligned interests
02:06:46.420 from different you know
02:06:47.580 federal agencies that are
02:06:48.400 all trying to disrupt you
02:06:49.420 know terrorism cases I
02:06:50.460 think and more likely
02:06:51.480 came out of a DHS who
02:06:52.500 has a very different they
02:06:53.540 don't have the rules I
02:06:54.260 would I would assume that
02:06:55.720 the most likely scenario is
02:06:57.340 more so uh just if it
02:06:59.300 happens it happens and let
02:07:00.340 it happen because we can
02:07:01.100 use it well here's how we
02:07:02.060 know that was that was a
02:07:02.920 really scary thing in
02:07:03.960 Washington DC anybody
02:07:05.020 who's ever worked in DC
02:07:05.980 in law enforcement knows
02:07:06.740 there's a thing called an
02:07:07.360 NSSE the National Special
02:07:08.900 Security Events those are
02:07:10.260 run by DHS by statute and
02:07:12.020 by policy and the Secret
02:07:13.880 Service runs it so they
02:07:15.180 set up a command post it
02:07:16.140 looks like this there's a
02:07:17.040 bunch of different
02:07:17.400 screens there's a bunch
02:07:18.040 of people from every
02:07:18.760 different agency um DC
02:07:20.200 Metro PD is there ATF
02:07:21.780 FBI DEA Department of
02:07:23.560 Energy has people that
02:07:24.360 goes around looks for
02:07:25.020 nuclear bombs and stuff
02:07:25.920 like that and they do
02:07:26.740 this all the time they do
02:07:27.620 it for January uh sorry
02:07:29.520 July 4th celebrations for
02:07:31.180 big parades for major
02:07:32.600 events they will declare
02:07:33.560 it NSSE happens every
02:07:34.620 year for the State of the
02:07:35.280 Union when the president
02:07:36.280 does a big motorcade over
02:07:37.220 to Congress so these are
02:07:38.740 known protests known public
02:07:40.440 events where they set up a
02:07:41.840 security perimeter and
02:07:42.780 everybody gets involved
02:07:43.660 and the locals love it
02:07:44.740 because the because the
02:07:45.620 Fed will pay their their
02:07:46.520 overtime so it's actually a
02:07:47.780 good deal for them they
02:07:48.500 love that and the Fed
02:07:49.440 doesn't care because they
02:07:50.000 just print more money and
02:07:50.760 do whatever they want
02:07:51.320 right so that's NSSEs they
02:07:53.160 happen regularly they
02:07:54.100 happen for every
02:07:54.600 presidential inauguration and
02:07:55.740 when you were there on
02:07:56.460 January 20th that was an
02:07:57.740 NSSE right and everybody's
02:07:59.120 involved there's undercovers
02:08:00.080 in the crowd like I was and
02:08:01.380 all they're trying to do is
02:08:02.100 make sure that First
02:08:02.740 Amendment protections are
02:08:03.600 allowed and that people
02:08:04.600 that try to disrupt it get
02:08:05.520 stopped and that park
02:08:06.620 police is flying the
02:08:07.340 helicopter everyone's doing
02:08:08.180 their thing that didn't
02:08:09.420 get declared for January 6th
02:08:10.880 why they had a minimal
02:08:12.520 they had a minimal
02:08:13.360 presence they didn't have
02:08:14.820 DC Metro riot police on
02:08:16.040 standby think about how
02:08:17.000 many protests happen in in
02:08:18.240 DC on an annual basis
02:08:19.960 you have a better idea than
02:08:21.280 every day probably almost
02:08:22.640 every definitely every week
02:08:23.860 come on every single week
02:08:24.940 there's either a scheduled
02:08:25.680 or unscheduled protest that
02:08:26.700 gets big and and they
02:08:28.740 couldn't handle this one
02:08:29.540 event that's highly
02:08:31.000 suspicious I agree with you
02:08:32.140 if it happens it happens
02:08:33.540 pull back the curtain let's
02:08:34.860 see what happens if we
02:08:35.540 that's why the cops were
02:08:36.380 there's videos of them
02:08:37.240 standing by I just kicked
02:08:38.740 over the trash can it's
02:08:39.420 kick it's kick the ant
02:08:40.280 mound and see what happens
02:08:41.060 and don't come in and try
02:08:42.000 to cover it up don't
02:08:42.720 contain them gentlemen
02:08:43.640 this has been a absolute
02:08:45.240 blast to have you and to
02:08:46.500 talk about all this stuff
02:08:47.060 really to appreciate it
02:08:47.960 it's about that time we're
02:08:48.820 gonna start wrapping up
02:08:49.440 do you guys want to shout
02:08:50.100 anything out so people can
02:08:51.080 find you somewhere
02:08:51.620 yep you guys can find me
02:08:53.900 and you can sometimes find
02:08:54.700 Garrett on my podcast we do
02:08:55.840 a morning stream at 930
02:08:57.660 eastern time on rumble.com
02:08:59.200 slash Kyle Serafin it's
02:09:00.280 just my name I am usually a
02:09:01.740 little bit less amped up
02:09:02.560 than this but I've been
02:09:03.100 drinking some of your
02:09:03.620 cast brew coffee so I'm
02:09:04.760 a lot too I've been I'm
02:09:06.340 running through this like
02:09:06.900 32 ounce tumblr I'm rocking
02:09:09.080 into that but they can find
02:09:09.760 me there and they can find
02:09:10.440 me on all the social
02:09:11.600 medias at Kyle Serafin
02:09:12.820 Twitter and truth and so
02:09:14.020 on right on for me on
02:09:16.660 socials I'm at GOB actual I
02:09:18.880 have a sub stack it's
02:09:19.840 lastline.substack.com all
02:09:21.800 of that stuff is under
02:09:23.260 lock and key right now per
02:09:24.520 my attorney so hopefully
02:09:25.800 someday soon I'll be able
02:09:26.960 to open that up and release
02:09:29.280 the Garrett yeah because I
02:09:30.880 put some effort especially
02:09:31.940 into the sub stack so yeah
02:09:34.240 that and yeah that's
02:09:36.420 probably about it right on
02:09:37.180 it was great talking to
02:09:37.960 you guys really fascinating
02:09:38.920 stuff Ian Crossland you know
02:09:40.660 where to find me at Ian
02:09:41.580 Crossland on the internet
02:09:42.420 I'll see you guys later do
02:09:43.860 this again let's do this
02:09:44.620 again that's really
02:09:45.160 interesting right on and
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