The Culture War - Tim Pool - October 14, 2025


Trump Threatens INSURRECTION Against Democrats Over Anti ICE Riots ft. Mike Benz

Topics
street protests & paramilitary violence legacy censorship weights
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Tim Pool Phil Labonte Hannah Claire Brimelow
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Antifa Handbook Don Trump Jr. Mike Benz Cyber George Soros Mike Benz Joe Biden Mark Bray Michael Ledeen Eric Charamella Radek Sikorsky Glenn Beck Letitia James Donald Trump Al Gore Putin George Soros-Bill Gates George Floyd Marine Le Pen Erica Chenoweth Victoria Nuland and 15 more
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On this episode of the podcast, we're joined by the man, the myth, the legend, Mike Benz, to talk about the deep state and how it's trying to take control of our political system. He talks about how the Deep State is trying to exert control over our government, and how they're using tactics like tear gas and pepper balls to do so.

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00:01:00.440 But based on everything you just mentioned-
00:01:01.540 They arrested Trump's lawyers,
00:01:02.640 his accountants,
00:01:03.980 his media support system,
00:01:07.300 and even his valet.
00:01:09.200 The FBI,
00:01:10.460 before they indicted his valet
00:01:13.380 because he wouldn't cooperate and turn against Trump,
00:01:16.620 they actually coached him to appear sweaty
00:01:19.520 so that he was out for a-
00:01:21.160 It looked like he was out for a jog
00:01:23.100 rather than meeting secretly with the feds.
00:01:26.280 They went after every aspect of it.
00:01:28.120 From Fox News,
00:01:29.620 Trump floats using the Insurrection Act
00:01:32.000 to combat Chicago crime.
00:01:34.520 Says Pritzker should beg for his help.
00:01:36.900 Right now in Chicago,
00:01:38.360 it is being argued
00:01:39.720 that the feds are defying court orders.
00:01:44.040 In Portland,
00:01:44.920 we are seeing stories
00:01:46.600 about conservatives being arrested
00:01:48.900 despite being the victims.
00:01:50.300 One man struck a net with a rock,
00:01:52.460 falls to the ground,
00:01:53.660 goes to the hospital,
00:01:54.340 and gets arrested while in the hospital.
00:01:57.000 What is going on?
00:01:58.680 I think it's patently obvious
00:01:59.820 to anyone who's paying attention,
00:02:01.100 the lines are dividing.
00:02:02.740 The lines have been drawn a long time ago,
00:02:04.060 but the division is getting worse.
00:02:06.280 Democrats are acting like feds
00:02:07.900 are an invasive,
00:02:09.040 illegal,
00:02:09.580 occupationary force
00:02:10.620 because they don't recognize
00:02:12.500 the authority of government.
00:02:13.500 They don't need to say it.
00:02:16.120 Actions speak louder than words.
00:02:18.680 Now, joining us
00:02:20.420 to give us a breakdown
00:02:21.380 of just how bad it really is,
00:02:24.040 we have the man,
00:02:25.140 the myth,
00:02:25.540 the legend himself,
00:02:26.600 Mike Benz.
00:02:27.940 Let's pull this up,
00:02:30.320 make sure we've got
00:02:31.020 everything working.
00:02:32.400 Testing, one, two, three.
00:02:33.400 It looks like we're pretty good,
00:02:34.840 so we'll be starting this up.
00:02:36.620 It sounds like we're good.
00:02:38.540 I think we are.
00:02:39.880 Sometimes the audio gives us issues.
00:02:41.340 I see Mike.
00:02:42.120 Mike, how's it going?
00:02:43.900 Yes, Tim.
00:02:45.720 How are you?
00:02:47.180 Great.
00:02:48.020 How are you doing?
00:02:49.040 I'm doing fairly well.
00:02:50.980 We've got some crazy stories
00:02:52.300 over the past week,
00:02:53.480 and I know that you've been tracking
00:02:54.620 a lot of this deep state stuff,
00:02:56.820 but one thing that we're seeing now
00:02:58.360 we were just talking about
00:02:59.760 is in Chicago,
00:03:02.240 activists and the media
00:03:03.520 are now alleging
00:03:04.860 that federal law enforcement
00:03:06.880 have begun to defy the courts
00:03:08.820 using tear gas and pepper balls
00:03:10.780 despite a court order
00:03:11.520 barring them from doing so.
00:03:13.340 Whether it's true or not
00:03:14.220 doesn't matter
00:03:14.780 because we are seeing,
00:03:16.880 again, in Portland,
00:03:17.900 they're arresting conservatives.
00:03:19.160 They're arresting partisans.
00:03:20.700 It looks to me
00:03:21.400 like when you go back
00:03:23.280 to the arrest of Donald Trump,
00:03:24.940 the arrest of his lawyers,
00:03:26.440 the accusation that he was a traitor,
00:03:28.380 not to mention
00:03:29.200 everything you've covered,
00:03:30.920 this divide is,
00:03:33.080 we are looking through the glass
00:03:34.720 at an opposition force
00:03:36.340 in this country
00:03:37.020 that I would describe
00:03:38.200 as a separate nation.
00:03:39.740 Actually, to be fair,
00:03:40.940 this is the words
00:03:41.580 of Stephen Marsh
00:03:42.360 who wrote the book
00:03:43.140 The Second Civil War
00:03:44.180 where he said
00:03:44.620 you have a multicultural democracy
00:03:46.080 and a constitutional republic
00:03:47.860 inside the United States.
00:03:49.840 With everything you've covered,
00:03:51.740 USAID,
00:03:52.500 all of the funding of this,
00:03:53.380 I'm curious
00:03:53.720 what you see as happening
00:03:55.260 and where you think it'll go.
00:03:57.340 I think that's right.
00:03:58.680 Street protests
00:03:59.680 are a,
00:04:00.720 and paramilitary
00:04:01.960 violence
00:04:03.560 or damage
00:04:05.760 to property
00:04:06.700 is a very important
00:04:08.460 subcomponent
00:04:09.580 of political pressure
00:04:11.260 applied by the
00:04:13.440 uniparty blob fixture
00:04:16.500 both abroad
00:04:17.280 and at home.
00:04:18.540 We know that,
00:04:19.400 for example,
00:04:20.040 when aspects
00:04:21.680 of the U.S.
00:04:23.140 State Department
00:04:23.720 or intelligence agencies
00:04:25.040 or Department of War
00:04:26.680 want to destabilize
00:04:28.620 and empower government,
00:04:30.200 the first thing they do
00:04:31.600 is they use this
00:04:32.660 gene-sharp
00:04:33.640 color revolution,
00:04:35.680 people-powered
00:04:36.540 revolution.
00:04:39.740 Literally,
00:04:40.340 it's a textbook.
00:04:41.220 It's called
00:04:41.500 From Dictatorship to Democracy.
00:04:43.400 It's translated
00:04:44.340 in something like
00:04:45.080 128 different languages
00:04:46.540 and dialects
00:04:47.360 and given out
00:04:47.840 to protesters.
00:04:49.680 And usually,
00:04:51.420 the front lines
00:04:52.240 are the dispossessed
00:04:53.600 in the country.
00:04:54.880 They get a coalition
00:04:55.700 of the fringes together.
00:04:56.920 They get the unemployed people, 0.99
00:04:58.700 the drug addicts,
00:05:00.060 young people,
00:05:01.600 union members,
00:05:03.680 criminals, 0.98
00:05:04.660 literally.
00:05:05.160 There's a CIA manual
00:05:06.060 from 1983
00:05:06.860 on using organized crime
00:05:09.460 for street protests.
00:05:11.260 And I thought
00:05:12.680 it was very interesting
00:05:13.800 since Antifa
00:05:14.860 is obviously
00:05:15.860 the central theme
00:05:17.580 around these groups.
00:05:20.880 There's an Antifa blog
00:05:22.540 called Crime Think,
00:05:23.800 which when Trump
00:05:24.860 announced that
00:05:25.440 he would be declaring Antifa
00:05:26.640 a terrorist organization,
00:05:28.960 they put out
00:05:30.680 this kind of article,
00:05:33.140 almost white paper
00:05:34.200 type analysis
00:05:35.100 saying that
00:05:36.860 they weren't yet sure
00:05:37.580 how Trump would enforce
00:05:38.600 the executive order,
00:05:39.760 whether they would go
00:05:40.520 bottom up
00:05:41.320 cell by cell
00:05:42.640 through all the different
00:05:43.480 Antifa cells
00:05:44.200 or whether they would go
00:05:45.400 top down
00:05:46.540 against, quote,
00:05:47.260 massive liberal
00:05:48.340 foundations
00:05:49.700 and endowments,
00:05:50.680 which I thought
00:05:51.160 was an interesting tell.
00:05:52.780 It's like Antifa
00:05:53.760 self-reporting
00:05:54.680 about their own structure,
00:05:55.780 that while they purport
00:05:57.200 to be kind of
00:05:58.720 decentralized cell networks,
00:06:00.580 it's all top down
00:06:02.000 from money
00:06:02.980 from these massive
00:06:03.820 liberal foundations.
00:06:05.620 We're getting
00:06:05.980 like a weird
00:06:06.560 demonic feedback
00:06:07.660 from you
00:06:08.420 where it's like,
00:06:09.780 I don't know
00:06:10.720 if you notice that
00:06:11.320 every few seconds,
00:06:12.040 there's like a,
00:06:12.780 your voice is replicating
00:06:14.320 at a lower octave.
00:06:16.560 I don't know.
00:06:17.720 We'll fight through it.
00:06:18.520 I told your producer
00:06:19.880 something,
00:06:20.280 I just moved
00:06:20.920 into a new apartment
00:06:21.640 and I don't have
00:06:22.360 Wi-Fi yet,
00:06:23.300 so it doesn't arrive
00:06:25.240 till tomorrow,
00:06:26.040 the routers.
00:06:27.600 So I'm on 5G
00:06:29.060 in a empty,
00:06:30.000 unfurnished apartment
00:06:30.900 so there's probably
00:06:31.860 both echo and lag
00:06:33.240 so apologies for that.
00:06:34.640 Yeah, yeah.
00:06:35.240 We'll fight through it.
00:06:37.820 Seeing these,
00:06:40.200 you know,
00:06:41.080 in Portland,
00:06:41.720 there's this video
00:06:42.120 from Andy Ngo
00:06:42.800 and we've heard
00:06:44.040 about Nick Sorter
00:06:44.720 getting attacked
00:06:45.420 and then the police
00:06:45.880 arrest him.
00:06:47.380 You know,
00:06:47.660 I've tried explaining
00:06:48.600 to these conservatives
00:06:49.280 they need to understand
00:06:50.700 the ideology
00:06:51.540 of these,
00:06:53.440 this left liberal
00:06:54.480 multicultural democracy,
00:06:55.640 whatever you want
00:06:56.000 to call it.
00:06:57.040 When they say
00:06:57.940 that they are going
00:06:59.500 to by any means
00:07:01.740 necessary,
00:07:02.520 they mean it.
00:07:03.680 And this assumption
00:07:04.660 that you can trust
00:07:05.740 the law enforcement
00:07:06.640 in jurisdictions
00:07:07.340 controlled by these people,
00:07:09.500 it's crazy that people
00:07:10.380 think they're going
00:07:10.920 to go to Portland.
00:07:12.660 You are going
00:07:13.540 into Antifa country
00:07:14.580 and when you get
00:07:16.020 attacked by Antifa,
00:07:17.320 you walk up to Antifa
00:07:18.780 wearing a badge
00:07:19.540 and say,
00:07:20.240 Mr. Antifa in a badge,
00:07:21.620 will you help me?
00:07:22.300 And they laugh
00:07:23.000 and they arrest you.
00:07:25.460 I mean,
00:07:26.120 I think it should be
00:07:26.900 patently obvious
00:07:27.400 to anybody
00:07:27.800 when they arrested
00:07:29.120 Trump's lawyers
00:07:30.320 for simply trying
00:07:32.100 to defend him.
00:07:33.540 We are in a whole
00:07:34.300 new territory.
00:07:36.200 But based on everything
00:07:36.660 you just mentioned.
00:07:37.100 They arrested Trump's lawyers,
00:07:38.240 his accountants,
00:07:39.600 his media support system,
00:07:43.060 and even his valet.
00:07:44.840 The FBI,
00:07:46.060 before they indicted
00:07:48.140 his valet
00:07:48.980 because he wouldn't
00:07:49.980 cooperate
00:07:50.540 and turn against Trump,
00:07:52.220 they actually coached him
00:07:53.900 to appear sweaty
00:07:55.120 so that he was out
00:07:56.180 for a,
00:07:56.760 it looked like he was
00:07:57.600 out for a jog
00:07:58.680 rather than meeting
00:07:59.660 secretly with the feds.
00:08:01.900 They went after
00:08:02.480 every aspect of it.
00:08:03.720 But to your point,
00:08:04.480 Tim,
00:08:05.000 think about Letitia James,
00:08:06.760 another one of these,
00:08:07.880 you know,
00:08:08.220 Soros-associated
00:08:09.560 fair and just prosecutions,
00:08:11.240 this FJP group,
00:08:12.740 which runs through
00:08:13.340 the Tide Center
00:08:14.160 and the Soros Networks.
00:08:16.560 Letitia James 0.97
00:08:17.400 is a career criminal. 1.00
00:08:19.560 Her whole family, 0.76
00:08:20.820 it just came out yesterday
00:08:22.320 that not only was she
00:08:24.180 involved in mortgage fraud
00:08:25.720 and has been indicted
00:08:26.840 for that,
00:08:27.740 but in the fraud home,
00:08:30.140 and the irony of all ironies,
00:08:31.580 she indicted Trump
00:08:32.500 on effectively housing fraud
00:08:35.100 for inflating the value
00:08:37.680 of Mar-a-Lago,
00:08:38.660 which was an insane case,
00:08:39.880 while she was committing
00:08:40.880 mortgage fraud herself,
00:08:42.360 at least according
00:08:43.000 to the court documents.
00:08:44.240 But it turns out now,
00:08:45.460 allegedly,
00:08:46.500 she had a niece
00:08:48.100 standing in that house
00:08:49.740 as a fugitive
00:08:51.980 from charges in,
00:08:53.720 I believe it was
00:08:54.320 North Carolina,
00:08:55.400 for grand larceny,
00:08:56.880 burglary,
00:08:57.880 and child abuse.
00:08:59.380 So you have career criminals
00:09:01.400 who are the career prosecutors.
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00:10:03.040 In these jurisdictions.
00:10:05.060 I can only predict that
00:10:08.040 based on what we've seen
00:10:08.900 over the past 10 years,
00:10:10.120 what we're seeing today,
00:10:11.660 it's fairly obvious.
00:10:13.120 I don't know how.
00:10:15.660 This goes any other way,
00:10:17.560 but,
00:10:18.820 well,
00:10:19.260 let me lighten up.
00:10:20.780 Civil war is the buzz phrase 0.52
00:10:23.400 that everyone's been saying
00:10:24.360 for some time.
00:10:24.880 I mean,
00:10:25.340 Trump took a bullet 0.99
00:10:26.080 in the side of his head. 1.00
00:10:26.960 Charlie Kirk was murdered.
00:10:27.940 But there's also the possible
00:10:29.840 of revolution
00:10:30.640 or,
00:10:32.340 I don't know,
00:10:33.360 maybe revitalization.
00:10:35.620 And that is
00:10:36.200 massive changes coming.
00:10:38.360 Either
00:10:38.600 the right coalition
00:10:40.500 crushes the left,
00:10:41.900 the left coalition
00:10:42.700 crushes the right,
00:10:43.480 or there's an active
00:10:44.300 kinetic conflict.
00:10:45.160 I'm curious what you think happens.
00:10:46.280 I actually think a lot of it
00:10:48.880 is downstream of the money.
00:10:50.560 And I think that
00:10:51.640 when you look at
00:10:52.720 Antifa's operations,
00:10:54.060 for example,
00:10:55.620 the fact that Antifa
00:10:57.000 was on the ground
00:10:57.980 in Syria,
00:10:59.140 and according to
00:10:59.960 Rolling Stone,
00:11:00.920 the closest ally
00:11:02.120 of the Department of War
00:11:04.360 on the ground
00:11:05.100 during the CIA's
00:11:06.240 operation,
00:11:06.880 Timber Sycamore.
00:11:08.000 You look at Antifa's
00:11:09.020 actions in Germany,
00:11:10.340 assisting the
00:11:11.040 Victoria Nuland blob
00:11:12.440 against the AFD party,
00:11:14.020 or Antifa in France,
00:11:15.500 assisting the
00:11:16.640 Biden blob,
00:11:18.040 the Biden-Obama blob
00:11:19.120 against Marine Le Pen.
00:11:20.960 You look at Antifa
00:11:22.340 becoming this
00:11:23.140 giant
00:11:24.000 sort of vaccine
00:11:27.020 enforcement mob
00:11:28.260 that was breaking up
00:11:29.340 anti-vax.
00:11:30.500 You look at
00:11:31.320 their climate change
00:11:33.060 orthodoxy.
00:11:34.280 You can go to
00:11:35.120 Your Anon Central,
00:11:36.480 the anonymous
00:11:37.340 group account
00:11:39.360 on Twitter
00:11:40.020 with millions
00:11:41.100 of followers
00:11:41.760 that is kind of
00:11:42.860 this unofficial
00:11:43.660 voice
00:11:44.800 from the ether
00:11:46.120 of Antifa.
00:11:47.480 And every single
00:11:48.500 one of the political
00:11:49.300 opponents that Antifa
00:11:50.400 has is an opponent
00:11:51.700 of George Soros,
00:11:53.300 of Joe Biden,
00:11:54.220 of Barack Obama.
00:11:55.700 And it's also
00:11:56.440 an enforcement mechanism
00:11:57.880 for their financial
00:11:59.160 ecosystem.
00:11:59.920 And I think this is
00:12:00.460 a major,
00:12:01.240 major thing
00:12:02.360 to track
00:12:03.000 as the Treasury
00:12:04.040 is looking to
00:12:04.960 sanction these groups
00:12:06.020 internationally
00:12:07.020 and prevent,
00:12:08.460 as they're being
00:12:09.500 designated essentially
00:12:10.500 an international
00:12:11.460 terrorist group,
00:12:12.300 which I think
00:12:12.780 is the right way
00:12:13.360 to go about it
00:12:14.260 because this is
00:12:15.040 an international
00:12:15.800 network who
00:12:17.000 explicitly endorses
00:12:18.380 violence.
00:12:20.220 But that has been
00:12:21.520 harbored within
00:12:22.380 our own
00:12:23.060 international
00:12:23.900 facing agencies.
00:12:25.500 I did a stream
00:12:27.140 recently on the
00:12:27.900 U.S.
00:12:28.200 Institute of Peace,
00:12:29.240 which has many
00:12:30.280 of these figures
00:12:31.040 in their
00:12:31.680 street mob
00:12:35.280 organizing.
00:12:36.820 They call it
00:12:37.300 the nonviolent
00:12:38.060 action program,
00:12:39.500 but it explicitly
00:12:40.960 endorses violence.
00:12:42.640 It says,
00:12:43.040 we don't consider
00:12:44.280 property destruction,
00:12:45.820 arson,
00:12:46.580 blowing up pipelines,
00:12:48.380 destroying police
00:12:49.040 precincts.
00:12:49.700 We don't count
00:12:50.300 that as,
00:12:51.000 quote,
00:12:51.300 violent action.
00:12:52.880 And so they
00:12:53.560 greenlit
00:12:54.240 the director
00:12:55.960 of the U.S.
00:12:57.080 government agency.
00:12:58.780 This is Maria
00:12:59.280 Stephan and Erica
00:13:00.420 Chenoweth,
00:13:01.120 all these folks
00:13:01.840 who are closely
00:13:03.000 associated with
00:13:04.040 this Antifa
00:13:04.740 organizing network.
00:13:06.900 They explicitly
00:13:07.980 endorse property
00:13:08.960 violence and
00:13:10.140 even encourage
00:13:11.660 folks to have,
00:13:12.580 quote,
00:13:12.640 a high
00:13:13.040 risk tolerance
00:13:13.980 to get arrested.
00:13:16.040 So they look
00:13:17.180 for people
00:13:17.660 who are willing
00:13:18.180 to get arrested.
00:13:19.060 Of course,
00:13:19.340 they have a support
00:13:20.160 system through
00:13:20.660 the National
00:13:21.060 Lawyers Guild
00:13:21.880 to pay for their
00:13:23.000 legal fees,
00:13:23.780 to bail them out.
00:13:26.180 We saw the
00:13:27.040 attorney general
00:13:28.160 of the entire
00:13:29.020 state of Minnesota
00:13:30.180 holding up
00:13:31.240 the Mark Bray
00:13:32.340 Antifa handbook
00:13:33.440 while he's in charge
00:13:34.240 of the entire
00:13:35.040 criminal justice
00:13:35.860 system in Minnesota
00:13:37.900 where the George Floyd
00:13:38.960 riots popped off.
00:13:40.440 How do you think
00:13:40.900 that filters down
00:13:41.800 into the local
00:13:42.480 prosecutors
00:13:43.160 when the
00:13:43.580 attorney general
00:13:44.220 of the entire
00:13:44.760 state is holding
00:13:45.880 up the Antifa
00:13:46.440 handbook?
00:13:47.360 And Mark Bray,
00:13:48.100 who wrote that
00:13:48.780 handbook and
00:13:49.740 tried to flee
00:13:50.680 the country
00:13:51.620 this week
00:13:52.460 and was stopped.
00:13:53.460 He was stopped?
00:13:54.940 Right.
00:13:55.800 But his
00:13:57.200 parting words
00:13:58.040 on Blue Sky
00:13:58.680 were to continue
00:14:00.120 the resistance,
00:14:01.000 quote,
00:14:01.100 legal or not.
00:14:02.180 And these are the
00:14:03.100 people in charge
00:14:03.560 of the legal system.
00:14:04.480 What do you mean
00:14:05.060 he was stopped?
00:14:05.700 What happened?
00:14:06.100 Well, he tried
00:14:07.900 to flee to Spain
00:14:09.000 and I think
00:14:10.100 he was turned
00:14:10.620 back at the airport.
00:14:12.020 I don't know
00:14:12.820 what the status
00:14:13.400 of that is
00:14:14.560 currently,
00:14:15.140 but last week
00:14:15.900 he announced
00:14:16.800 that he was
00:14:17.180 fleeing to Spain
00:14:18.020 and I think
00:14:18.820 because he's
00:14:19.340 likely under
00:14:19.880 FBI investigation,
00:14:22.520 I don't know
00:14:23.240 if they put
00:14:24.560 a pause
00:14:25.320 on his passport
00:14:26.120 and took him
00:14:26.620 in for questioning,
00:14:27.960 but this was
00:14:28.480 widely reported
00:14:29.580 in the news.
00:14:30.620 You know,
00:14:30.760 they reported him
00:14:32.240 as I think
00:14:33.200 a Rutgers professor
00:14:34.860 or I forget
00:14:35.700 which university,
00:14:36.500 maybe even
00:14:37.020 Northeastern,
00:14:37.900 but you see
00:14:39.400 there's this
00:14:40.300 money network
00:14:41.080 and it starts
00:14:41.780 at the hedge funds
00:14:42.680 and the private
00:14:43.220 equity funds
00:14:43.980 and they sponsor
00:14:45.720 the political class,
00:14:46.920 they sponsor
00:14:47.360 your Barack Obamas,
00:14:48.440 your Joe Bidens,
00:14:49.400 but they also invest
00:14:50.800 region by region
00:14:52.260 in all the different
00:14:53.580 industries and businesses
00:14:55.680 that Antifa serves
00:14:56.700 to support.
00:14:57.400 Think about this.
00:14:58.340 When Antifa goes
00:14:59.180 and breaks up
00:15:00.140 an anti-Fizer protest,
00:15:02.000 who is that good for?
00:15:03.380 George Soros
00:15:04.040 has massive investments
00:15:05.120 in companies
00:15:06.140 like AstraZeneca
00:15:07.200 and J&J
00:15:08.600 and massive investments
00:15:11.880 in the climate space.
00:15:13.040 I reported this
00:15:13.640 in Brazil,
00:15:14.240 for example,
00:15:14.800 where the pro-Lula mobs
00:15:16.660 break up Bolsonaro meetings.
00:15:18.600 Well,
00:15:19.040 the first thing
00:15:19.800 Lula did
00:15:20.540 after being backed
00:15:21.720 by the State Department
00:15:22.600 and these George Soros
00:15:23.400 networks
00:15:23.740 was to implement
00:15:25.180 these ethanol mandates
00:15:26.680 so that you,
00:15:28.500 by force of the government,
00:15:30.140 you had to buy
00:15:31.180 from companies,
00:15:32.740 portfolio companies,
00:15:33.800 that the George Soros
00:15:34.540 Management Fund
00:15:35.360 had already taken
00:15:36.760 giant long investments in.
00:15:38.440 So Soros made
00:15:39.120 about $185 million
00:15:40.700 through his management fund
00:15:42.700 simply for installing
00:15:43.900 a candidate
00:15:44.800 who forced people
00:15:46.480 to buy the products
00:15:47.620 and services
00:15:48.460 of George Soros companies.
00:15:50.080 You see the same thing
00:15:51.600 with the Al Gore climate.
00:15:53.400 Al Gore is a multi-billionaire now
00:15:55.520 because of his hedge fund
00:15:58.840 that basically takes
00:15:59.900 these positions
00:16:01.100 on climate investments.
00:16:03.440 George,
00:16:03.780 Bill Gates
00:16:04.520 has the same,
00:16:05.520 his Breakthrough Ventures
00:16:06.580 which is a major
00:16:07.360 climate fund
00:16:08.260 and you have these
00:16:09.040 Antifa,
00:16:10.080 you know,
00:16:10.320 eco-fascist,
00:16:11.680 eco-terror,
00:16:12.760 fascist terrorism types
00:16:15.580 who are doing this work
00:16:16.660 through Antifa.
00:16:17.680 I think if you shut down
00:16:18.880 the money at the university level
00:16:20.420 and Trump is trying
00:16:21.080 to do this
00:16:21.640 through this university compact
00:16:23.080 and hedging the grants,
00:16:26.220 $9 billion in grants
00:16:27.780 were owed
00:16:28.740 to the Harvard Endowment
00:16:30.440 effectively
00:16:31.080 until,
00:16:31.940 or Harvard University
00:16:32.940 until Trump just cut off
00:16:34.320 about $7 billion of that,
00:16:36.020 $400 million to Columbia,
00:16:38.100 $2 billion into Yale.
00:16:39.740 All of this funds
00:16:41.040 the professoriate class
00:16:42.960 who teaches the theory.
00:16:44.380 These teachers
00:16:44.920 double as organizers.
00:16:46.260 For example,
00:16:46.760 Mark Bray
00:16:47.320 who wrote
00:16:47.720 the Antifa Handbook
00:16:48.700 that Keith Ellison
00:16:50.340 was holding up
00:16:51.240 and Mark Bray
00:16:52.180 openly on social media
00:16:53.740 saying engage
00:16:54.680 in these actions
00:16:55.320 legal or not.
00:16:57.160 He is doubling
00:16:58.600 as a professor
00:16:59.760 and an organizer
00:17:00.720 of the students.
00:17:02.380 Michael Lodenthal
00:17:03.020 is another great example
00:17:04.140 of this.
00:17:05.240 And so,
00:17:05.940 if you take the money out,
00:17:07.420 I think the ideology
00:17:08.300 actually changes
00:17:09.140 very quickly.
00:17:10.020 There's an update.
00:17:10.960 So,
00:17:11.160 I did pull it up.
00:17:12.780 Mark Bray
00:17:13.480 had attempted
00:17:14.380 to flee to Spain.
00:17:16.300 However,
00:17:16.980 his boarding passes,
00:17:18.880 they got everything,
00:17:19.720 checked in,
00:17:20.120 got their boarding passes,
00:17:21.300 got to the gate.
00:17:22.740 Reportedly,
00:17:23.340 the reservations
00:17:23.880 were then canceled.
00:17:25.220 He called it fishy.
00:17:26.480 He was turned back,
00:17:28.100 rebooked a day later.
00:17:29.620 He did make it to Spain.
00:17:31.580 But it is curious
00:17:32.520 as to why he was
00:17:34.180 initially turned back.
00:17:35.080 And I have to,
00:17:35.520 I,
00:17:35.740 they're investing.
00:17:37.420 I mean,
00:17:37.660 Glenn Beck said
00:17:38.320 that the FBI
00:17:38.740 came to his house
00:17:39.500 and sat down
00:17:40.600 with him for,
00:17:40.980 I think,
00:17:41.380 several hours
00:17:41.900 to go over
00:17:42.640 what he knows
00:17:43.700 about these organizing groups.
00:17:45.740 And it's fascinating
00:17:46.240 because there was a,
00:17:47.080 I was talking about this earlier,
00:17:48.800 a podcast from The Bulwark.
00:17:51.220 And this is what we see
00:17:52.060 from these liberals.
00:17:53.200 They mocked Glenn Beck
00:17:55.240 for talking with the FBI
00:17:57.020 about Antifa,
00:17:58.280 but offered up
00:17:59.240 no rebuttal
00:18:00.020 or criticism
00:18:00.560 other than
00:18:01.240 to just laugh.
00:18:03.000 It's the,
00:18:03.340 it's the weirdest thing,
00:18:04.660 the world these people live in.
00:18:06.020 They say,
00:18:06.460 ha ha,
00:18:06.760 Glenn Beck
00:18:07.180 mouthed the FBI.
00:18:08.520 They'll start laughing.
00:18:09.360 Wow, 1.00
00:18:09.580 he's so dumb. 1.00
00:18:10.560 The FBI is so dumb. 1.00
00:18:11.640 Ha ha. 1.00
00:18:12.240 They didn't actually
00:18:12.920 tell me why it was wrong
00:18:14.820 or what was going on.
00:18:15.940 And so what I end up seeing,
00:18:18.100 you know,
00:18:18.320 make a great point
00:18:19.020 with the,
00:18:19.540 that Antifa becomes
00:18:21.060 the enforcer
00:18:21.640 of all things,
00:18:22.600 the blob,
00:18:23.200 the machine state.
00:18:24.380 There was a,
00:18:25.260 a anti-mask protest.
00:18:27.340 It was protesters
00:18:27.940 who said,
00:18:28.560 mask mandates are wrong.
00:18:29.940 Antifa physically attacked them,
00:18:31.200 started punching these people.
00:18:32.960 Why,
00:18:33.240 why is Antifa going out
00:18:34.760 and beating up
00:18:35.080 some random old guy
00:18:36.120 who doesn't want to wear a mask?
00:18:37.060 It makes no sense.
00:18:38.640 These people
00:18:39.380 are,
00:18:40.400 are,
00:18:40.940 on the left,
00:18:41.620 they, 0.72
00:18:41.800 they rally in ignorance.
00:18:44.140 You know,
00:18:44.640 maybe it's because
00:18:45.300 they lack the ability
00:18:46.200 or they're just scared
00:18:47.100 and they fall in line.
00:18:48.540 But,
00:18:49.340 with that being said,
00:18:51.120 I don't see a reality
00:18:53.200 where we escape this
00:18:54.260 without some escalation
00:18:55.420 of conflict.
00:18:56.040 And that could be,
00:18:56.680 maybe Trump forcefully
00:18:58.980 occupies the blue,
00:19:00.040 blue states
00:19:00.880 and declares an insurrection
00:19:03.120 and takes command
00:19:04.000 of their,
00:19:04.440 their,
00:19:04.880 uh,
00:19:05.780 criminal justice apparatus.
00:19:08.120 Or,
00:19:09.600 Trump,
00:19:10.160 you know,
00:19:10.380 come 2026,
00:19:11.880 Democrats win the midterms,
00:19:13.740 impeach Trump again,
00:19:14.720 it largely does nothing.
00:19:15.920 A Democrat wins in 28
00:19:17.180 and then we're all in prison
00:19:18.420 or something like that.
00:19:19.880 Or maybe,
00:19:21.000 both sides refuse to back down.
00:19:23.220 And when Trump tries
00:19:24.260 to occupy a blue state,
00:19:25.400 they say no
00:19:26.480 and they shoot back.
00:19:28.180 Do you think we avoid this?
00:19:29.620 Do you think I'm wrong?
00:19:30.660 I mean,
00:19:30.980 I,
00:19:31.580 to be fair,
00:19:31.960 it's very broad
00:19:32.820 what I'm describing.
00:19:34.240 Right.
00:19:34.760 Well,
00:19:34.920 these are plausible scenarios.
00:19:36.600 I think that there is
00:19:37.640 a middle path through,
00:19:39.360 which is instead of the helium
00:19:41.680 in the balloon
00:19:42.500 getting so intense
00:19:43.820 that the whole thing pops,
00:19:45.640 there is,
00:19:46.200 I think,
00:19:46.360 a way to let air
00:19:47.200 out of the balloon
00:19:48.060 simply by squeezing
00:19:49.160 the money supply.
00:19:50.800 And,
00:19:50.900 and this is sort of
00:19:51.740 the strategy
00:19:52.260 that I'm articulating here.
00:19:53.720 And I think there's lots
00:19:54.440 of ways to do this.
00:19:55.160 So,
00:19:55.680 one of the things
00:19:56.340 that's really fascinating
00:19:57.520 about this network
00:19:58.340 is how much it simulates
00:20:00.220 clandestine,
00:20:02.640 what do they call it?
00:20:03.600 Networked clandestine,
00:20:05.120 clandestine,
00:20:06.060 clandestine,
00:20:07.060 Disney,
00:20:08.080 clandestine,
00:20:08.440 we'll just call it clandestine.
00:20:09.780 Networked clandestine,
00:20:10.940 this concept
00:20:11.620 that Michael Lodenthal,
00:20:12.940 this major Antifa professor,
00:20:15.000 talks about.
00:20:16.880 And,
00:20:17.180 it's very interesting
00:20:18.200 just to put a,
00:20:19.440 come back to this Spain thing.
00:20:21.260 In Spain,
00:20:21.920 this is another
00:20:22.760 major blob node. 0.76
00:20:25.100 The,
00:20:25.360 Spain,
00:20:26.160 the blob has been
00:20:27.020 trying to stop
00:20:27.780 the Vox Party
00:20:28.560 in Spain
00:20:29.360 by any means possible.
00:20:30.720 In large part
00:20:31.820 because of the energy policy
00:20:33.260 advocated by the
00:20:34.120 Spanish Vox Party.
00:20:35.480 Spain is one of the
00:20:36.820 major ports
00:20:37.840 through which,
00:20:38.600 through which LNG
00:20:40.440 is transported,
00:20:41.660 this transition fuel
00:20:42.940 away from oil.
00:20:44.820 and,
00:20:46.160 you know,
00:20:46.440 they say that
00:20:47.000 natural,
00:20:47.560 gas is effectively
00:20:48.780 this transport through
00:20:50.300 on the way
00:20:51.520 to clean energy.
00:20:52.880 And,
00:20:53.080 so part of bombing
00:20:54.240 the Nord Stream pipeline,
00:20:55.980 part of the strategy
00:20:56.780 for many of these
00:20:58.480 major gas companies
00:20:59.840 was to apply
00:21:01.040 on liquefied natural gas
00:21:02.400 where you have
00:21:02.780 all this
00:21:03.280 Houston gas
00:21:05.280 that can be transported
00:21:06.700 through LNG
00:21:07.480 to ports in Spain,
00:21:09.460 Portugal,
00:21:10.080 and Poland.
00:21:10.780 Those are the major
00:21:11.560 hubs
00:21:12.340 to take the market
00:21:13.680 that Russia used to have.
00:21:15.380 And you'll note
00:21:15.900 these Antifa networks
00:21:16.920 who are all,
00:21:18.520 you know,
00:21:18.720 Trump equals Putin.
00:21:20.200 They're,
00:21:20.420 they're,
00:21:21.020 you know,
00:21:22.100 magically,
00:21:23.060 you know,
00:21:25.420 while they have folks
00:21:27.220 saying,
00:21:27.680 oh,
00:21:28.660 you know,
00:21:29.600 Putin is bringing back
00:21:30.940 communism
00:21:31.720 and the like
00:21:32.820 and authoritarian it,
00:21:34.360 suddenly,
00:21:35.880 they're not opposed.
00:21:37.840 They're completely aligned
00:21:39.280 with the CIA,
00:21:40.080 CIA on it.
00:21:40.720 But what I'll note
00:21:41.160 on Spain is
00:21:42.220 the blob
00:21:43.200 has run operations
00:21:44.520 against the right-wing
00:21:46.080 populist Vox party
00:21:47.980 in Spain
00:21:48.340 for a very long time now.
00:21:49.760 In fact,
00:21:50.320 the same forces in Poland
00:21:51.560 and Applebaum,
00:21:52.740 who was almost
00:21:53.140 the first lady of Poland,
00:21:54.460 she's married currently
00:21:55.300 to the foreign minister,
00:21:56.880 their head of the State Department,
00:21:59.280 Radek Sikorsky,
00:22:00.380 who,
00:22:01.140 as soon as the Nord Stream pipeline
00:22:02.440 was bombed,
00:22:03.620 creating a massive market
00:22:04.940 in Spain,
00:22:06.460 because now
00:22:07.340 instead of Russian gas,
00:22:08.460 they'd have to ship
00:22:09.040 in LNG
00:22:09.860 through Spain,
00:22:10.880 Radek Sikorsky
00:22:12.860 in Poland
00:22:13.540 tweeted out,
00:22:14.560 thank you,
00:22:15.180 USA,
00:22:15.980 and it just came out
00:22:17.140 today.
00:22:17.900 Tim,
00:22:18.240 today,
00:22:19.140 Poland
00:22:19.560 instructed
00:22:20.680 the German government
00:22:22.660 to stop
00:22:23.980 its investigation
00:22:24.840 of the Nord Stream pipeline
00:22:26.480 bombing.
00:22:27.700 Wow.
00:22:28.260 This is an incredible thing
00:22:29.480 because the Germans
00:22:30.800 arrested a Ukrainian
00:22:31.920 diving team
00:22:32.760 and they don't want
00:22:34.280 Germany
00:22:34.740 to get
00:22:35.380 to the real answer
00:22:36.540 of who exactly,
00:22:39.400 how deep it goes,
00:22:40.600 given,
00:22:40.920 for example,
00:22:41.340 that U.S. intelligence
00:22:42.240 took over
00:22:42.960 Ukrainian intelligence
00:22:44.320 in 2014,
00:22:45.340 as reported
00:22:45.860 by the New York Times
00:22:46.840 day one
00:22:47.920 post-Mindan coup.
00:22:49.460 They don't want
00:22:50.120 Germany investigating
00:22:51.160 who was complicit
00:22:53.420 in the Nord Stream pipeline,
00:22:54.660 and it's the same folks
00:22:55.620 who were involved
00:22:56.100 in Spain,
00:22:57.120 but Radek Sikorsky's wife,
00:22:59.980 Ann Applebaum,
00:23:00.800 who's on the board
00:23:01.420 of the National Endowment
00:23:02.360 for Democracy,
00:23:03.300 one of the biggest CIA fronts
00:23:05.120 in the entire
00:23:06.120 United States arsenal.
00:23:08.440 She ran this operation
00:23:09.780 in 2015
00:23:10.520 called the Integrity Initiative
00:23:11.940 where they had this,
00:23:13.960 they called it
00:23:14.560 a network of networks,
00:23:15.700 which is the exact phrase
00:23:17.180 that Michael Lodenthal
00:23:18.720 uses in his book
00:23:20.320 The Politics of Attack,
00:23:21.700 this Antifa guidebook
00:23:23.480 on Antifa tactics,
00:23:24.800 promoting them.
00:23:25.960 And it's a clandestine
00:23:27.900 network of networks
00:23:28.740 where they recruited
00:23:29.640 decentralized cluster
00:23:31.300 themselves.
00:23:31.880 This is literally
00:23:32.480 in the orientation manual
00:23:35.140 where they gave
00:23:36.040 strict OPSEC instructions
00:23:37.920 to be, quote,
00:23:39.000 helpfully uninformative
00:23:40.520 about the leadership structure
00:23:41.880 and the funding
00:23:43.620 of the organization.
00:23:44.980 And her group
00:23:45.960 worked behind the scenes,
00:23:47.520 this all came out publicly
00:23:48.600 in these leaked documents,
00:23:50.080 to eliminate Pedro Baños,
00:23:52.680 who was going to be
00:23:53.360 the defense minister
00:23:54.320 in Spain,
00:23:55.240 and to run this covert operation
00:23:56.800 to destroy his nomination.
00:23:59.180 But what I'm saying is,
00:24:01.280 this is something
00:24:02.160 for the ODNI.
00:24:03.400 If ODNI can pull,
00:24:05.380 for example,
00:24:06.300 you know 100%
00:24:07.580 that the CIA
00:24:09.340 and DOD
00:24:10.140 worked with Antifa
00:24:10.940 on the ground
00:24:11.620 in Syria.
00:24:12.380 I believe you will see,
00:24:14.480 if you were to simply
00:24:15.180 run a keyword search
00:24:16.340 for anti-fascist
00:24:17.940 or Antifa
00:24:19.100 or any of the
00:24:20.420 associated keyword
00:24:21.540 terms in Germany,
00:24:22.700 you will find the same
00:24:23.960 thing under the
00:24:24.840 Undersecretary for
00:24:25.720 Political Affairs,
00:24:26.640 Victoria Nuland,
00:24:27.920 as she ran the
00:24:28.700 Biden administration's
00:24:29.840 political section
00:24:30.840 of the State Department.
00:24:31.620 I think if you just pull
00:24:32.980 all the political section
00:24:34.380 of the State,
00:24:35.240 all the USAID files
00:24:36.640 in terms of groups
00:24:37.940 that went to,
00:24:38.540 quote, anti-fascist groups,
00:24:40.560 you go to ODNI
00:24:41.500 and you look at,
00:24:42.580 for example,
00:24:43.640 the CIA occupied
00:24:44.800 the entire top floor
00:24:45.840 of the State Department
00:24:46.660 in the 20th century
00:24:48.000 in the Paris office.
00:24:49.360 I bet you will find
00:24:50.260 the links in France.
00:24:51.080 You will find the links
00:24:51.800 in Switzerland.
00:24:52.920 You will find the links.
00:24:53.940 I think that if
00:24:54.640 this network relies
00:24:56.240 on clandestine,
00:24:58.340 tight OPSEC
00:24:58.620 OPSEC
00:24:59.380 in order to prevent
00:25:00.860 public disclosure
00:25:01.580 of leadership
00:25:02.280 and funding,
00:25:03.600 and I believe
00:25:04.540 they were a tool
00:25:05.160 of statecraft.
00:25:06.320 So in addition
00:25:06.860 to the Treasury actions
00:25:08.320 on sanctioning,
00:25:09.800 in addition to the FBI
00:25:10.860 and DHS actions
00:25:12.480 on law enforcement,
00:25:13.760 I believe you need
00:25:14.680 effectively an anti-profile
00:25:16.340 for the U.S. federal government
00:25:17.700 the same way
00:25:18.400 we had MLK files
00:25:19.940 and JFK files,
00:25:20.940 and I believe that could
00:25:21.600 destroy the network
00:25:22.520 by simply making it
00:25:24.300 all public.
00:25:25.100 You know that you were
00:25:26.200 a target of the deep state
00:25:28.620 a long time ago.
00:25:29.680 You probably know
00:25:30.080 better than I do,
00:25:30.760 but the first time
00:25:32.020 we had you on TimCast IRL,
00:25:34.120 to me it was uneventful.
00:25:36.760 Let me explain.
00:25:38.240 I get a notification
00:25:39.180 from our booking team
00:25:40.020 we're having Mike Benz on.
00:25:41.220 It's a mundane routine day.
00:25:43.100 Here's our guest.
00:25:43.940 Here's his expertise.
00:25:44.900 I'm not saying anything
00:25:45.740 about you being mundane.
00:25:46.600 I'm saying just another day,
00:25:48.080 just another guest.
00:25:49.180 I got, in the weirdest way,
00:25:51.300 a bunch of tweets,
00:25:53.080 even DMs,
00:25:54.340 from people who are
00:25:55.920 somewhat associated
00:25:57.040 with either left-wing activism
00:25:59.100 or groups
00:26:00.280 that told me
00:26:02.200 not to have you
00:26:03.040 on the show.
00:26:05.040 Some of them were things like,
00:26:06.720 you're actually having
00:26:07.900 that guy on your show?
00:26:09.260 Did you even look into it?
00:26:10.540 Oh my God.
00:26:12.020 And I was weirded out by this
00:26:13.340 because I'm like,
00:26:14.420 you've not given me
00:26:15.600 an argument.
00:26:16.620 And certainly,
00:26:17.860 Mike Benz is not
00:26:19.040 the most shocking
00:26:20.160 and controversial person
00:26:21.220 we've ever booked
00:26:21.700 for the show.
00:26:22.680 But some of these individuals
00:26:23.760 were Antifa-aligned
00:26:25.940 liberal people
00:26:26.580 that I've known
00:26:27.120 since Occupy
00:26:27.940 sending me DMs.
00:26:29.620 And they were trying
00:26:30.180 to insinuate
00:26:30.980 that there was some kind of,
00:26:32.680 this is weird,
00:26:34.680 I've never gotten
00:26:36.460 the reaction
00:26:37.020 to any guest
00:26:38.220 the way the reaction
00:26:39.080 I got to you
00:26:40.040 with these activists
00:26:41.200 messaging me
00:26:41.940 with no real stance,
00:26:43.640 grounds,
00:26:43.940 or political argument
00:26:44.680 as to why I should not
00:26:45.660 have you on the show.
00:26:47.140 And they were saying
00:26:48.020 something like,
00:26:49.060 LOL,
00:26:50.020 Mike Benz, 0.94
00:26:50.600 gross. 0.93
00:26:51.120 Did you even look into him? 0.96
00:26:52.180 As if to like,
00:26:53.460 make me worried
00:26:54.360 about you being on the show.
00:26:55.200 And I'm like,
00:26:55.820 I don't care. 1.00
00:26:57.560 Shut up. 0.99
00:26:58.300 But it really seemed 1.00
00:26:59.440 like a coordinated attack
00:27:01.060 on me
00:27:02.300 trying to get me scared
00:27:04.680 of some kind of backlash
00:27:05.860 or cancellation
00:27:06.540 to you appearing
00:27:07.380 on the show,
00:27:07.900 of course,
00:27:08.560 was a totally normal show
00:27:10.000 where you laid out
00:27:10.580 a lot of these positions,
00:27:11.680 the investigation,
00:27:12.380 the work that you've done.
00:27:13.880 I think
00:27:14.620 seeing all of this,
00:27:17.040 it is part of this network,
00:27:18.500 a coordinated effort.
00:27:20.200 And I'll put it this way.
00:27:21.760 A lot of people talk about,
00:27:23.540 oh, you can't talk about this,
00:27:24.780 you can't talk about that
00:27:25.540 on the internet.
00:27:26.540 Oh, if you say a certain word,
00:27:28.740 they'll ban you. 1.00
00:27:29.140 No, no, no.
00:27:29.500 There were a few instances
00:27:30.540 where you would get really banned.
00:27:33.420 There have been only
00:27:34.020 a few experiences I've had
00:27:35.500 where you can tell.
00:27:36.700 Eric Charamella was one of them.
00:27:38.840 When Trump was accused
00:27:40.860 and real clear investigations
00:27:43.560 reported the accuser
00:27:45.300 must be Eric Charamella.
00:27:46.780 If you said his name on YouTube,
00:27:48.860 they would delete the video
00:27:50.340 instantly on Facebook.
00:27:52.700 You can say on Twitter either.
00:27:54.020 Yeah.
00:27:54.480 If on Facebook,
00:27:55.700 you wrote Eric Charamella,
00:27:56.920 the post would vanish instantly.
00:27:59.340 And then to a lesser degree,
00:28:01.460 the strange experience I had
00:28:02.600 was when you were booked
00:28:03.340 for the show for the first time,
00:28:04.900 all of these weird people
00:28:06.260 popping out of the woodwork
00:28:07.160 trying to get me
00:28:07.880 to not have you on the show.
00:28:09.860 Have you experienced more than that?
00:28:11.980 You know, it's so funny
00:28:13.080 because they're afraid
00:28:14.180 of losing the money.
00:28:15.000 There are folks who sense
00:28:18.340 that I'm close with the admin
00:28:20.080 in terms of them
00:28:21.140 following my account
00:28:22.720 and many of the NGOs
00:28:24.840 getting defunded
00:28:25.720 that I've been naming.
00:28:28.060 But the strangest thing was,
00:28:29.640 I think the first time
00:28:30.260 I was on your show
00:28:30.880 was probably early 2024-ish.
00:28:34.700 And during the transition...
00:28:35.440 I think it was way earlier than that.
00:28:37.020 Yeah, maybe 2023.
00:28:38.820 But during the transition,
00:28:40.820 I had about a half dozen
00:28:42.840 NGO representatives
00:28:44.220 reach out to me
00:28:46.120 and plea for their lives,
00:28:48.860 in fact,
00:28:49.060 a plea for their funding lives,
00:28:51.840 saying,
00:28:52.340 I know that we've done
00:28:53.480 some things wrong
00:28:54.440 and in the past,
00:28:55.620 but we can, you know,
00:28:56.960 bring our organization
00:28:57.760 into alignment,
00:28:59.180 you know,
00:29:00.220 as long as we have,
00:29:02.000 you know,
00:29:02.220 the grants and capacity
00:29:03.360 to do it.
00:29:03.980 And so I think
00:29:05.540 a lot of this
00:29:06.040 just comes down
00:29:06.820 to the money,
00:29:07.600 which is that
00:29:08.240 they have relied
00:29:09.760 on weasel words
00:29:11.260 and lie language.
00:29:13.260 And, you know,
00:29:14.000 my job has been
00:29:15.440 to decode that
00:29:16.200 for policymakers,
00:29:17.140 but Tim,
00:29:17.520 they went after you
00:29:18.240 in an unbelievable way.
00:29:19.360 I don't know if...
00:29:20.420 I mean,
00:29:22.220 if you've seen
00:29:23.460 some of the extent of it,
00:29:24.560 I posted a video
00:29:25.660 a while back
00:29:26.960 about how you were targeted
00:29:28.120 during the 2020 election
00:29:29.800 using AI scan
00:29:31.560 and band technology.
00:29:33.940 You were targeted
00:29:35.360 by the Atlantic Council,
00:29:36.980 which has seven CIA directors
00:29:38.780 on its board
00:29:39.440 and annual funding
00:29:40.700 from the Pentagon,
00:29:41.660 the State Department,
00:29:42.580 USAID,
00:29:43.160 and the National
00:29:43.540 Center for Democracy.
00:29:44.720 The Atlantic Council,
00:29:46.020 Grafica,
00:29:46.960 the University of Washington,
00:29:48.640 and the Stanford
00:29:49.500 Airnet Observatory
00:29:50.500 fingered you
00:29:51.900 and actually gave
00:29:53.680 a case study
00:29:54.540 of how you amplified
00:29:56.380 a major narrative
00:29:57.720 about,
00:29:58.940 what was it,
00:29:59.800 I think it was
00:30:00.200 Ballot Harvesting,
00:30:01.920 and they used this AI.
00:30:03.900 It was available
00:30:04.560 and Facebook
00:30:05.280 kind of shut it down
00:30:06.320 as it's moved over
00:30:07.160 to this more
00:30:08.040 free speech-oriented model,
00:30:09.640 but they used to have
00:30:10.460 this open source
00:30:12.040 for outside researchers.
00:30:13.640 These are all operatives
00:30:14.820 so that you could use
00:30:16.740 this essentially AI tool
00:30:18.600 as an API
00:30:19.560 to get the internal
00:30:20.800 effectively narrative tracking.
00:30:24.860 So you could track
00:30:26.040 if Donald Jr.,
00:30:27.860 Don Trump Jr.,
00:30:29.260 tweeted out
00:30:30.600 a tweet about a narrative.
00:30:32.800 You could get
00:30:33.380 the origin
00:30:34.440 of who he retweeted it from
00:30:36.060 and who they retweeted it from,
00:30:38.140 who they quote tweeted it from,
00:30:39.660 and you could create
00:30:40.260 this whole narrative network map,
00:30:42.160 and they think of you
00:30:43.160 as the moment
00:30:44.100 that this narrative
00:30:45.560 around ballot harvesting
00:30:47.380 went from sort of
00:30:48.820 fringier accounts
00:30:50.080 to hit like this giant mainstream
00:30:51.860 that amplified its way
00:30:53.140 to the White House,
00:30:53.920 and they essentially said
00:30:56.720 this is the class
00:30:57.960 that we need to cut off.
00:30:59.100 They were very concerned
00:31:01.040 at the time in 2020
00:31:02.320 before Trump got formally banned
00:31:04.280 in early 2021
00:31:05.200 about what they called
00:31:07.040 the martyr effect.
00:31:08.380 They felt they didn't have
00:31:09.600 the political capital
00:31:10.580 to nuke Donald Trump's account
00:31:12.340 or Don Jr.'s account,
00:31:13.960 and so they commissioned
00:31:16.360 actually
00:31:17.060 the National Science Foundation
00:31:20.180 funds
00:31:20.740 to study
00:31:22.440 how to minimize
00:31:23.420 the quote
00:31:24.100 the martyr effect
00:31:25.100 or effectively
00:31:26.060 the Streisand effect
00:31:27.060 from censoring someone,
00:31:28.960 and they came up
00:31:29.520 with top-down models,
00:31:30.920 bottom-up models,
00:31:32.380 random partial
00:31:33.600 ban things
00:31:34.700 where they would
00:31:35.180 create this network
00:31:36.060 and they'd say,
00:31:36.660 okay, well,
00:31:36.940 we can't ban Trump,
00:31:37.820 but here are
00:31:38.900 the top lieutenants
00:31:39.900 that he retweets from,
00:31:41.380 and here are
00:31:42.220 the giant
00:31:43.140 sort of
00:31:44.320 tranches
00:31:45.260 of small accounts
00:31:46.280 that nobody knows
00:31:47.640 and doesn't have
00:31:48.280 brand recognition,
00:31:49.720 so if we censor
00:31:50.340 65% of the small accounts
00:31:52.100 but we keep
00:31:52.840 the top accounts, 0.93
00:31:53.920 we can kill 0.70
00:31:54.520 the amplification funnel, 0.91
00:31:55.820 and this is probably
00:31:56.620 the only thing
00:31:57.420 stopping Nick's order
00:31:58.380 from being in jail
00:31:59.020 right now.
00:31:59.680 If you remember
00:32:00.280 the Portland police
00:32:01.400 made a tweet,
00:32:02.780 we understand
00:32:03.380 that,
00:32:04.340 you know,
00:32:05.120 there's been
00:32:06.220 an arrest warrant
00:32:06.980 against an individual
00:32:08.000 with a large number
00:32:09.800 of social media followers.
00:32:11.480 That's probably
00:32:12.080 the only reason
00:32:12.700 they dropped the case
00:32:13.560 was because
00:32:14.060 of the blowback from that.
00:32:15.500 I,
00:32:16.220 one last thing
00:32:17.120 before we wrap
00:32:17.680 is it's amazing
00:32:18.780 to hear you say this
00:32:19.260 because this is exactly
00:32:20.720 what I predicted
00:32:21.480 was happening
00:32:22.080 following the 2018
00:32:23.220 mass censorship
00:32:24.080 of conservatives.
00:32:26.700 What we saw
00:32:27.620 was overnight
00:32:28.560 recommendations dropped
00:32:29.940 by like 90%,
00:32:31.120 and what I explained
00:32:33.380 to people was
00:32:34.020 what they're engaging
00:32:35.600 in is a pressure system
00:32:36.660 where they don't want
00:32:38.080 to ban
00:32:38.520 every conservative
00:32:39.220 outright
00:32:39.580 because that would
00:32:40.240 create a massive backlash.
00:32:41.420 What they want to do
00:32:42.000 is play a math game.
00:32:43.620 We call this in poker
00:32:45.220 EV plus,
00:32:46.200 expected value positive
00:32:47.600 or negative.
00:32:48.980 They want to create
00:32:49.640 a system by which
00:32:50.620 they tilt the scales
00:32:52.160 so that over a long
00:32:53.600 enough period of time
00:32:54.540 the left ideology
00:32:55.780 expands
00:32:56.420 and the right contracts.
00:32:58.240 So instead of just
00:32:59.160 outright banning
00:32:59.880 all the conservatives,
00:33:01.140 every month
00:33:01.860 you ban a small conservative
00:33:02.980 and restrict their ability
00:33:04.200 to communicate.
00:33:06.060 I actually think
00:33:06.660 recently the views
00:33:09.400 on my TimCast News channel
00:33:12.260 skyrocketed.
00:33:14.720 Subscribers started growing
00:33:15.760 and it was after I pointed out
00:33:17.680 that I believed my channel.
00:33:19.320 So it was like a month ago
00:33:20.080 I said,
00:33:20.540 I believe legacy censorship
00:33:22.020 weights still exist
00:33:23.440 on my channel
00:33:23.980 from the Biden administration.
00:33:25.200 Yes.
00:33:25.600 What happened?
00:33:26.380 Two weeks later
00:33:27.280 my views doubled
00:33:27.920 which indicates
00:33:29.420 someone at Google
00:33:31.160 heard me say it
00:33:32.100 went and checked
00:33:33.100 because this happened before
00:33:34.600 and I think it was 2021
00:33:35.880 you couldn't Google search
00:33:38.260 TimCast IRL
00:33:39.080 or TimCast
00:33:40.080 the YouTube videos
00:33:41.360 wouldn't come up
00:33:42.120 I mentioned it on the show
00:33:43.740 on the show
00:33:44.900 at that moment
00:33:45.520 you could all of a sudden
00:33:47.180 search for TimCast again
00:33:48.220 so we are definitely
00:33:49.700 over time
00:33:50.240 so Mike
00:33:50.880 where can people find you?
00:33:52.840 You can find me
00:33:53.520 on X
00:33:54.260 at Mike Ben Cyber
00:33:55.360 also on YouTube
00:33:56.440 Rumble
00:33:56.940 Instagram everywhere
00:33:58.080 it's Mike Ben Cyber
00:33:58.940 and even that
00:34:00.040 I'll just say
00:34:00.480 final thing Tim
00:34:01.560 Google is competing
00:34:03.400 right now
00:34:03.840 this comes down
00:34:04.340 to the money too
00:34:04.900 they paid Trump
00:34:05.520 $25 million
00:34:06.380 as a settlement
00:34:07.260 for his account
00:34:07.900 being banned
00:34:08.380 they've let
00:34:09.320 other accounts
00:34:10.040 like London Real
00:34:10.660 back on
00:34:11.080 but a lot of this
00:34:11.900 is because of the money
00:34:12.660 they're competing
00:34:13.280 for government contracts
00:34:14.560 against XAI
00:34:15.800 and ChatGPT
00:34:17.240 and Google
00:34:18.160 doesn't want to be
00:34:18.720 on the outs
00:34:19.180 so it comes down
00:34:20.260 to the money
00:34:20.620 and that's what
00:34:21.540 we have to go after
00:34:23.220 with Antifa now
00:34:23.940 Right on Mike
00:34:24.760 I appreciate you
00:34:25.620 chiming in
00:34:26.340 we have to have you
00:34:26.680 back soon
00:34:27.060 thanks for hanging out
00:34:27.680 next time
00:34:29.000 have a good one
00:34:29.880 that is the great
00:34:33.100 Mike Benz
00:34:33.780 man that guy
00:34:34.440 knows all
00:34:35.600 about what's going on
00:34:36.760 with the deep state machine
00:34:37.620 and he's been right
00:34:38.240 for a long time
00:34:38.680 I do
00:34:39.160 I thought he was on
00:34:40.340 a while ago
00:34:41.100 it might have been
00:34:41.580 a year or two ago
00:34:42.400 I am fully cognizant
00:34:44.000 of the audio issues
00:34:44.840 what I think was happening
00:34:45.680 was
00:34:46.200 he's in an echoey room
00:34:49.640 and I think that
00:34:50.680 when he would talk
00:34:51.600 the echo would bounce back
00:34:53.340 somewhat after the fact
00:34:55.080 but if his mic
00:34:57.000 has got a noise gate
00:34:58.600 threshold to pick up audio
00:34:59.980 it would only pick it up
00:35:01.500 when he talked
00:35:02.360 creating that weird
00:35:03.200 recurring echo
00:35:03.980 we had the problem
00:35:06.920 with my voice echoing
00:35:08.200 before
00:35:08.560 and it turned out
00:35:10.080 it was on our end
00:35:10.920 we fixed that problem
00:35:11.860 so
00:35:12.240 we're going to go in
00:35:13.940 and because it was
00:35:14.700 on the low end
00:35:15.160 I can easily pull that out
00:35:16.120 with the parametric equalizer
00:35:17.500 so I apologize for that
00:35:18.440 smash the like button
00:35:19.600 everybody
00:35:20.000 stay tuned
00:35:20.680 more to come
00:35:21.300 thank you to everybody
00:35:22.660 in the Rumble Morning lineup
00:35:23.740 I believe we've got
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00:35:26.580 going live now
00:35:27.860 let's get that raid
00:35:29.420 guys
00:35:30.060 I really recommend DeVore
00:35:31.280 he is absolutely amazing
00:35:32.480 smart guy
00:35:33.540 great guy
00:35:34.360 great show
00:35:35.640 definitely check him out
00:35:37.180 if you haven't seen him before
00:35:37.960 the raid is gearing up
00:35:39.040 thanks for hanging out
00:35:39.820 we're back tonight
00:35:40.880 at 8pm
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