The Glenn Beck Program - September 17, 2019


Best of the Program ｜ Guest： John Ziegler ｜ 9⧸17⧸19


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Length

41 minutes

Words per minute

155.1662

Word count

6,462

Sentence count

666

Harmful content

Misogyny

6

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Hate speech

15

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Glenn Beck and Stu discuss a story about a woman who posted a picture of her dead dog on social media, and how it could be linked to a Somali immigrant who came to the United States as a refugee in the early 20th century.

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00:00:00.000 Oh my gosh, everything from Elon Omar, to flesh-eating bacteria, to Glenn Beck, actually the master of sports talk today.
00:00:10.840 Right or wrong, Stu?
00:00:11.860 Oh, you've mastered all sports.
00:00:14.380 No, no, no.
00:00:14.900 You do know more about one particular thing in sports than I do, by a lot.
00:00:18.960 Yes, a lot. I ran circles around Stu in sports today.
00:00:24.000 Yes, sports talk for the first time in my life, I'm the expert.
00:00:28.480 You don't want to miss it, all on today's podcast.
00:00:38.280 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:00:46.760 So, Stu.
00:00:50.400 Glenn, Stu, Stu.
00:00:52.480 You know, I've spent many, many hours on these airwaves.
00:00:58.080 Yes.
00:00:58.720 Saying how much I hate social media.
00:01:01.140 Right.
00:01:01.740 And how worthless it is.
00:01:03.420 Yes.
00:01:03.900 It's worthless.
00:01:04.920 I can't stand it.
00:01:05.100 Would you say that today?
00:01:06.920 Today is one of the days that social media is worth quite a bit.
00:01:11.840 Yeah.
00:01:12.120 It appears.
00:01:13.720 We cannot figure out.
00:01:15.700 We can't.
00:01:16.300 We've been trying.
00:01:17.120 Okay.
00:01:17.380 Wait a minute.
00:01:17.860 Wait a minute.
00:01:18.720 Can you check this?
00:01:19.620 Yes, we did.
00:01:20.280 It's verified.
00:01:21.120 All right.
00:01:22.920 It's so good that we just have this feeling like it can't be true.
00:01:28.000 But we've checked every way we know.
00:01:31.560 And it passes all the verification tests that we know.
00:01:35.200 Yeah.
00:01:35.460 Look, it's too good to check.
00:01:37.040 But we actually did check it.
00:01:38.540 Yes, that's right.
00:01:39.340 And so far.
00:01:39.880 We take our own advice.
00:01:41.520 I am at that point right now of saying like, the only thing I have to believe that this might
00:01:47.300 not be true is that it's just so good.
00:01:51.440 That's part of it.
00:01:52.960 Right.
00:01:53.160 Okay.
00:01:53.300 But it's also, you know, I just don't understand how this person would not have deleted this
00:02:00.540 before a couple of hours ago.
00:02:02.780 Arrogance.
00:02:04.380 Arrogance?
00:02:05.080 Arrogance.
00:02:05.900 Because I don't know.
00:02:07.240 I guess.
00:02:08.240 Sloppiness and arrogance.
00:02:09.440 Sloppiness.
00:02:10.100 Sloppiness.
00:02:10.740 You didn't see it.
00:02:11.400 But you would post it because you're so arrogant.
00:02:15.140 Or you're just at that point kind of unknown.
00:02:17.300 This is back from 2013.
00:02:18.960 I guess.
00:02:19.440 We're talking about Ilan Omar.
00:02:20.860 By the way, do we have the Ilan Omar theme?
00:02:23.440 Oh.
00:02:23.960 I think this is actually theme worthy.
00:02:27.520 Yes, it certainly is.
00:02:28.600 To have Ilan Omar.
00:02:30.140 It's a happy way to tell this story.
00:02:31.720 It really is.
00:02:35.340 Ilan Omar.
00:02:37.780 Ilan Omar.
00:02:40.260 Ilan Omar.
00:02:41.060 Okay, so we've been asking for a while, did Ilan Omar marry her brother?
00:02:53.000 Now, it sounds ridiculous.
00:02:57.040 It sounds ridiculous.
00:02:58.900 Well, on the surface, it sounds like, he doesn't have a birth certificate.
00:03:03.700 He wasn't married.
00:03:04.700 He was not born in America.
00:03:06.660 Well, here's the Hawaiian newspaper announcement from, what, 1961.
00:03:13.580 Yeah, well, that's not enough.
00:03:15.440 Okay, whatever.
00:03:17.080 So, it sounds a little ridiculous.
00:03:20.220 However, the Minneapolis Star Tribune has looked into this.
00:03:24.440 Several other journalists, including us, have looked into this.
00:03:28.060 No one will pick this story up.
00:03:30.160 No one will pick this story up in the national press.
00:03:33.760 And there's a lot around this.
00:03:37.400 But one of the more interesting claims is that she married her brother.
00:03:43.380 Now, the reason why she married her brother is because we think she wanted him to go to school here in the United States.
00:03:52.180 And get some, I don't know, family discount or whatever.
00:03:58.720 But the interesting part of the story, which we'll explain, is there's all kinds of evidence online.
00:04:07.920 There's pictures.
00:04:09.100 We know how she got into the country.
00:04:11.700 We know that her family was split.
00:04:14.180 Half her family took one name.
00:04:16.560 She took the Omar name, which is not her original name.
00:04:21.020 She took the Omar name because she went in, which was very common for Somalis to do.
00:04:27.360 They would come in as a family, even though they weren't a family.
00:04:31.740 They'd get some members of a family, this case, the Omars. 0.98
00:04:36.560 And then the Omars would be in the refugee camp. 1.00
00:04:39.380 And they'd be like, yeah, this is our other daughter as well.
00:04:44.560 That's how she came in.
00:04:45.700 And that's how she got the name Omar.
00:04:47.720 That's not her real name.
00:04:49.700 Okay.
00:04:50.360 Now, her real name, I think, is Saeed, is it not?
00:04:58.460 Who's El...
00:04:59.260 El...
00:04:59.960 El...
00:05:00.460 El...
00:05:00.760 Elnur Saeed, I think.
00:05:02.900 Elnur Saeed is the father.
00:05:04.100 Is the father.
00:05:05.320 Abu...
00:05:06.040 Naur Saeed is the father.
00:05:09.840 Okay.
00:05:10.580 Got it.
00:05:11.240 Got it?
00:05:11.660 Oh, oh my gosh.
00:05:12.860 Do I have it?
00:05:13.480 Yeah, you have it.
00:05:14.260 Okay.
00:05:14.640 Got it.
00:05:15.100 All right.
00:05:16.000 So, Elmi, now her Saeed, is the brother.
00:05:22.440 Okay.
00:05:23.240 So, what...
00:05:25.160 Yeah.
00:05:25.480 Elmi was her...
00:05:27.280 Was Elan's last name, we believe.
00:05:30.620 Yeah, I think it's like President Xi.
00:05:33.380 His name is Xi Jinping.
00:05:35.820 Yeah, that's the reverse.
00:05:37.000 Right.
00:05:37.340 Kim is the last...
00:05:38.040 Yeah, right.
00:05:38.500 Okay.
00:05:38.680 Okay, okay.
00:05:39.240 All right, okay.
00:05:40.060 No, no, this is important.
00:05:41.640 All right.
00:05:41.920 No, it's important.
00:05:42.640 It is important.
00:05:43.360 And I get...
00:05:44.360 You know what?
00:05:44.820 I'll tell the story the right way here in just a second.
00:05:47.960 Okay.
00:05:48.160 So, it can take you all the way through it.
00:05:49.520 But let me just give you the...
00:05:51.780 Just the great tweet that was found last night buried in all of her tweets.
00:05:58.720 This one was posted 6-16-13.
00:06:03.680 So, in 2013, she wrote...
00:06:06.780 Oh, wait a minute.
00:06:07.340 6-16.
00:06:08.240 That's a summer.
00:06:09.800 Oh, that's around Father's Day.
00:06:11.920 Hmm.
00:06:14.060 So, she wrote...
00:06:15.860 Happy Father's Day to my Abu Noor Saeed. 0.54
00:06:20.760 I am forever grateful to Allah for giving me the best father.
00:06:27.460 Then she links to an Instagram pic.
00:06:38.620 Now, here's the problem.
00:06:41.060 Her father's name is Noor Omar Mohammed.
00:06:47.340 Or is it?
00:06:50.780 This is the person that we've been saying is her father.
00:06:55.880 Not Omar.
00:06:59.080 But this is her father.
00:07:01.320 The one she verified in her tweet in 2013 as being her dad.
00:07:10.760 Now...
00:07:11.040 If that's her dad...
00:07:12.840 She's committed crimes, right? 0.67
00:07:14.640 Yeah, she's committed crimes. 1.00
00:07:16.160 She's married her brother.
00:07:17.640 And all the stuff that she's talking about with her brother is a lie.
00:07:24.120 Oh, that's not my brother.
00:07:25.440 That's not my brother.
00:07:26.140 That's my husband.
00:07:26.920 No, that is clearly your brother.
00:07:28.660 If this is your dad, because we have pictures of you, your dad, and your brother, and your sister together...
00:07:35.920 What a weird thing that is.
00:07:38.700 We also have a...
00:07:40.160 We have evidence, and we know for a fact that dad, sister, and brother all live together in England.
00:07:47.000 And we have pictures of that guy who lives in England being your husband.
00:07:55.340 So we're not sure how to make this out any other way, Ilan, other than you married your brother.
00:08:03.960 This is such a stupid millennial mistake.
00:08:06.420 Oh, this is crazy.
00:08:08.040 You're in the middle of committing this crime.
00:08:09.360 You're like, I got a tweet about it, though!
00:08:11.100 I just love...
00:08:13.140 That is the typical dumb way this should unravel.
00:08:17.100 What's amazing?
00:08:18.180 Here's what's amazing.
00:08:19.340 You would think, well, she hadn't committed anything yet.
00:08:22.280 Okay?
00:08:22.800 No, no, no.
00:08:23.960 She married her brother in 2009.
00:08:26.500 She got a divorce from her brother in 2011.
00:08:30.860 And it's a legal marriage.
00:08:32.700 What's weird is she was married to another guy in a faith marriage.
00:08:38.940 And she got married in a Muslim faith marriage in 2002.
00:08:43.860 They had two kids.
00:08:46.020 Then they got a faith divorce.
00:08:49.680 A month later, she has a legal Christian marriage with her brother.
00:08:55.660 And she's a big, hardcore Christian.
00:08:57.820 Oh, big Christian. 1.00
00:08:58.980 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:08:59.480 I know Ilan Omar is a big... 1.00
00:09:01.380 I mean, when you think Ilan Omar, you immediately think,
00:09:04.600 what preacher do we call to get this wedding done? 0.99
00:09:08.060 Don't we get it?
00:09:09.380 And when...
00:09:10.180 I think the explanation here would be
00:09:12.900 she had not really established herself in any public way
00:09:20.000 where she would need to care about what she was tweeting.
00:09:22.780 Right.
00:09:22.800 Like, no, the average person is not going to get in trouble for this
00:09:25.880 when it comes to a tweet.
00:09:29.520 Correct.
00:09:29.720 Like, you know, there's no immigration service going around
00:09:32.260 looking for tweets of this type, right?
00:09:34.700 That's not a thing.
00:09:35.200 Right.
00:09:35.600 But when you become a representative,
00:09:37.560 people start looking at your record
00:09:38.740 and actually care about what you've done.
00:09:40.440 And the fact, and the fact,
00:09:42.660 that she was...
00:09:43.980 She had a faith marriage with two kids.
00:09:46.440 Then she gets a faith divorce.
00:09:48.360 A month later, she gets a legal marriage,
00:09:50.580 a Christian marriage, to her brother.
00:09:53.320 They honeymoon at college for four years.
00:09:56.080 The minute he graduates from college,
00:09:58.640 she separates from her brother,
00:10:00.640 but doesn't divorce.
00:10:01.600 She separates from him.
00:10:03.920 Then she gets a new faith remarriage a couple of months later.
00:10:08.680 Literally, like two months later,
00:10:10.580 she remarries in faith to her old husband.
00:10:15.380 But then, in 2014,
00:10:18.680 she files a joint return with her husband
00:10:22.940 and the faith marriage.
00:10:25.340 Okay.
00:10:26.340 Obviously.
00:10:26.900 But she's married legally to her brother,
00:10:30.300 but she hadn't gotten a divorce yet.
00:10:34.160 Then the lies just spiral out of control.
00:10:37.300 Honestly, it's so confusing.
00:10:39.040 Without looking at the chalkboard that you have here,
00:10:41.060 it's almost impossible to understand.
00:10:42.840 This is why, by the way,
00:10:43.600 we did a big special on this.
00:10:44.780 You can go to YouTube and watch it.
00:10:46.280 There's a Blaze TV special.
00:10:47.380 Yeah, in fact, let's retweet that.
00:10:48.980 Let's retweet those links out.
00:10:50.480 But there are several...
00:10:52.220 Let's see if we can get the Blaze
00:10:53.440 to put those up at the front, too.
00:10:55.100 So you can go.
00:10:56.620 If you're a subscriber to the Blaze
00:10:57.900 and you haven't seen this,
00:10:59.100 there is a special that we did.
00:11:01.540 We laid it all out,
00:11:02.780 and it's super, super clear.
00:11:06.100 And when you see the facts,
00:11:09.020 it's pretty open and shut.
00:11:13.080 You know, we couldn't...
00:11:14.220 We can't prove that she was the one
00:11:17.300 that put this tweet out.
00:11:18.920 But we can tell you
00:11:20.200 that it's in the Wayback Machine.
00:11:21.940 It was deleted, what, about two hours ago?
00:11:25.560 We're going to talk to one of the guys
00:11:28.040 who found it coming up in just a second.
00:11:31.280 But this is her saying that's her father.
00:11:36.720 If that's her father,
00:11:38.700 then she's not an Omar.
00:11:41.820 There's your first fraud.
00:11:43.560 She came into America under fraudulent terms. 0.74
00:11:47.860 Her next fraud is marrying her brother. 0.98
00:11:52.920 For what reason?
00:11:54.560 Oh, by the way,
00:11:55.460 the kids, the ex-husband,
00:11:58.120 and her new husband, her brother,
00:12:00.800 were all living together at the same place
00:12:03.180 in the same house for four years.
00:12:05.840 So I'm sure the kids understood that.
00:12:08.820 You know,
00:12:09.220 Hey, I'm just going to have
00:12:10.380 relations with my brother,
00:12:13.680 your stepfather.
00:12:16.780 Oh, well, don't worry about it, kids.
00:12:18.580 I'll be back with your dad
00:12:19.640 as soon as we finish school.
00:12:22.860 A lot no more.
00:12:27.740 I want to talk to you
00:12:30.200 a little bit about Dale.
00:12:31.160 He's a listener to the program.
00:12:32.780 He was always a tough guy.
00:12:34.260 You know, he worked years in construction.
00:12:36.100 He was the kind of guy
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00:15:01.700 Okay, so you know how this started?
00:15:06.780 This started with Ilhan Omar
00:15:09.120 being exposed on Somali Blogspot.
00:15:13.100 Now, the Somali Blogspot
00:15:14.640 is this place
00:15:15.960 where the Somali community
00:15:17.600 in Minnesota
00:15:19.040 all kind of hang out
00:15:20.960 and they, you know,
00:15:22.820 share stories
00:15:23.680 and, you know,
00:15:24.720 they're all Somalis.
00:15:27.320 Well, there was a story
00:15:30.380 on Somali Blogspot
00:15:32.340 from Abdi Johnson.
00:15:35.380 Now, it was a post
00:15:38.920 where he said
00:15:40.200 that she has a marriage fraud
00:15:45.860 and it's going to be exposed
00:15:48.680 and the user went on
00:15:50.280 to explain how she
00:15:51.360 married her brother
00:15:52.760 to help him get into
00:15:53.800 the United States
00:15:54.740 and he lists the social media
00:15:56.580 post to back up his case.
00:15:58.600 Local media did nothing.
00:16:00.840 But then,
00:16:02.120 all of a sudden,
00:16:03.300 Abdi Johnson disappears
00:16:04.760 and all of that is deleted
00:16:06.380 from the Somali blog spot.
00:16:10.200 Why?
00:16:10.800 Why was that deleted?
00:16:13.200 Well, I contend,
00:16:15.020 and this is just speculation,
00:16:17.000 but I contend,
00:16:18.480 there is a mob-like atmosphere
00:16:23.140 in this community.
00:16:25.140 And if you speak out
00:16:28.360 about the wrong things,
00:16:30.540 you are silenced
00:16:31.800 one way or another.
00:16:33.000 This is not unusual
00:16:34.440 and it is not against Somalis.
00:16:37.500 You know,
00:16:37.920 the Germans had it,
00:16:39.360 the Irish had it,
00:16:42.560 the Italians had it.
00:16:43.920 Every group has this mentality,
00:16:47.760 especially when they
00:16:49.340 don't speak the language,
00:16:50.820 they're new to the country,
00:16:52.200 there can be real control.
00:16:53.680 I also contend
00:16:56.520 that the reason
00:16:57.220 why no one is looking
00:16:58.200 into this
00:16:58.920 is because Keith Ellison
00:17:00.460 is the Attorney General
00:17:02.400 in Minnesota.
00:17:04.580 Keith Ellison,
00:17:05.860 what a surprise,
00:17:07.780 is the guy
00:17:08.580 who left Congress
00:17:10.540 to become
00:17:11.320 the Attorney General
00:17:12.300 so she could become
00:17:14.300 a Congresswoman.
00:17:16.340 It's a nice little
00:17:18.480 warm and cozy relationship.
00:17:21.260 By the way,
00:17:22.340 the woman she has
00:17:23.920 now left her
00:17:25.080 third husband,
00:17:27.180 now will be
00:17:27.880 her third husband
00:17:28.880 if she,
00:17:29.920 wait,
00:17:30.260 one,
00:17:30.560 two,
00:17:30.940 three,
00:17:31.220 he would be
00:17:31.920 her fourth husband.
00:17:34.100 She's left
00:17:34.800 her first husband
00:17:35.520 twice and her
00:17:36.520 brother once.
00:17:38.180 Now she's dating
00:17:39.820 a guy
00:17:40.400 and wildly
00:17:41.680 in love with,
00:17:43.340 she's dating
00:17:44.680 a guy who used
00:17:45.560 to be Keith Ellison's
00:17:47.060 main,
00:17:48.120 I don't even know,
00:17:49.280 fundraiser?
00:17:49.920 What would you
00:17:50.380 call him,
00:17:51.080 Stu?
00:17:51.780 Because he wasn't
00:17:52.480 really a fundraiser,
00:17:53.840 he was,
00:17:55.460 but he was being
00:17:56.540 paid like he was
00:17:57.720 bringing in millions
00:17:58.540 of dollars and
00:17:59.340 she's paying him
00:18:00.620 millions of dollars
00:18:01.640 or hundreds of
00:18:02.920 thousands of dollars
00:18:03.720 at this point.
00:18:04.380 Whatever he's doing,
00:18:05.660 it's valuable.
00:18:06.660 It's very valuable.
00:18:08.840 There's all kinds
00:18:10.040 of stuff that is
00:18:10.960 really,
00:18:12.180 really wrong
00:18:13.180 with Elon
00:18:13.880 Omar.
00:18:14.260 The question is,
00:18:16.260 will this
00:18:17.420 discovery
00:18:19.100 that just
00:18:20.040 happened in the
00:18:20.820 overnight
00:18:21.380 of a tweet
00:18:22.620 she posted
00:18:23.360 in 2013
00:18:24.940 wishing
00:18:26.360 the person
00:18:28.400 we have been
00:18:29.280 saying is her
00:18:30.240 father,
00:18:30.980 which links
00:18:31.660 her marriage
00:18:32.460 now to her
00:18:33.220 brother,
00:18:34.920 wishing
00:18:35.360 her father
00:18:36.940 by name
00:18:38.200 a happy
00:18:39.060 Father's Day
00:18:39.900 and saying
00:18:40.920 she's forever
00:18:41.640 grateful to Allah
00:18:42.840 for giving her
00:18:44.300 the best
00:18:45.080 father?
00:18:47.160 I don't know,
00:18:48.200 seems pretty
00:18:49.060 clear now,
00:18:50.020 doesn't it?
00:18:50.480 Anybody else
00:18:51.100 want to look
00:18:51.860 into this?
00:18:52.500 New York Times
00:18:53.120 or YouTube
00:18:53.580 busy deleting
00:18:54.680 information?
00:18:58.420 The best
00:18:59.240 of the Glenn Beck
00:18:59.880 program.
00:19:07.060 Hey,
00:19:07.720 it's Glenn
00:19:08.260 and if you like
00:19:08.920 what you hear
00:19:09.260 on the program,
00:19:10.020 you should check
00:19:10.540 out Pat Gray
00:19:11.520 Unleashed.
00:19:12.380 His podcast
00:19:13.260 is available
00:19:13.860 wherever you
00:19:14.580 download your
00:19:15.240 favorite podcast.
00:19:16.320 Let me go to
00:19:17.020 John Ziegler.
00:19:18.400 John is a
00:19:19.740 senior columnist
00:19:20.940 at Mediate.
00:19:22.020 He is the host
00:19:23.780 of Individual
00:19:24.520 One podcast.
00:19:27.360 He has written
00:19:28.660 a great couple
00:19:30.000 of stories now
00:19:30.980 on this
00:19:32.120 bombshell
00:19:34.080 that ends up
00:19:34.900 blowing up
00:19:35.540 the New York
00:19:36.000 Times
00:19:36.460 on Brett
00:19:37.500 Cavanaugh.
00:19:38.320 Welcome to the
00:19:38.780 program.
00:19:39.240 John, how are
00:19:39.820 you?
00:19:40.520 Always good to be
00:19:41.360 with you, Glenn.
00:19:41.840 Yeah, so
00:19:43.120 John, let's
00:19:45.320 start with the
00:19:46.220 Cavanaugh story
00:19:46.960 that you wrote
00:19:47.680 on Sunday.
00:19:49.160 It was a
00:19:50.120 fascinating story
00:19:51.740 about, you know,
00:19:53.220 how much they
00:19:54.020 really left out
00:19:55.200 of this story.
00:19:56.760 It's not just
00:19:58.200 that the accuser
00:19:59.840 has no accusation
00:20:02.100 because they don't
00:20:02.740 remember any of it.
00:20:04.340 It's who made
00:20:05.360 this allegation.
00:20:06.260 Yeah, well, it's
00:20:07.660 actually, Glenn,
00:20:09.480 it is almost
00:20:10.560 impossible to
00:20:11.740 fully encapsulate
00:20:12.940 all the problems
00:20:13.620 with the New York
00:20:14.300 Times story
00:20:14.960 in one column.
00:20:16.080 I'm being very
00:20:16.900 literal about that.
00:20:18.160 And I actually
00:20:18.860 think that while
00:20:19.720 the conservative
00:20:20.300 media has done
00:20:21.100 a really good job
00:20:22.040 on some aspects
00:20:23.040 of the story,
00:20:24.600 there are obvious
00:20:25.420 aspects, like the
00:20:26.140 one you just
00:20:26.580 mentioned that they
00:20:27.180 didn't mention.
00:20:28.260 Oh, by the way,
00:20:29.100 the alleged victim
00:20:29.940 of the second episode
00:20:31.280 that is supposed to
00:20:32.120 be this bombshell
00:20:32.900 has no knowledge
00:20:34.040 of this and her
00:20:34.820 friends say that
00:20:35.700 they don't believe
00:20:36.320 that it happened.
00:20:37.360 They leave that out.
00:20:38.340 That would be a big
00:20:39.360 enough problem as it
00:20:40.320 is.
00:20:40.940 But I think we're
00:20:41.600 missing something
00:20:42.280 with regard to
00:20:43.080 who the witness is.
00:20:44.600 And it's not just
00:20:45.620 political bias.
00:20:46.640 This guy is a guy
00:20:47.560 by the name of
00:20:47.940 Max Steer.
00:20:48.800 And when I read
00:20:49.760 the original article,
00:20:51.520 I didn't know
00:20:51.900 who Max Steer was.
00:20:52.840 And it referred to
00:20:54.220 him as a thought
00:20:55.420 leader who works
00:20:57.520 at a D.C.
00:20:58.600 non-profit.
00:20:59.460 Now, you know I have
00:21:00.160 a pretty good BS
00:21:02.680 detector.
00:21:03.360 When I read that,
00:21:04.180 I'm like, wow.
00:21:05.160 That's like the
00:21:06.300 Patriot Act.
00:21:08.920 I'm at an 11 on
00:21:10.240 who this guy is.
00:21:11.200 Right.
00:21:11.400 So who is this guy?
00:21:13.020 Well, we now learn
00:21:14.220 that he was one of
00:21:16.740 Bill Clinton's
00:21:17.740 defense attorneys
00:21:18.640 during his impeachment,
00:21:20.620 which would
00:21:21.520 automatically show
00:21:22.700 at least some bias.
00:21:23.900 But I'm not even
00:21:24.580 worried about the
00:21:25.400 bias element or the
00:21:26.500 potential political
00:21:27.360 motivation.
00:21:28.720 Let's go back to
00:21:29.780 the Clinton impeachment.
00:21:31.200 Who was on the
00:21:32.020 other side of that
00:21:33.300 battle?
00:21:34.260 Ken Starr's primary
00:21:36.080 deputy was Brett
00:21:37.940 Kavanaugh.
00:21:39.240 What was the
00:21:40.020 one of the major
00:21:41.300 allegations against
00:21:42.540 Bill Clinton that
00:21:43.520 led to that whole
00:21:44.340 situation?
00:21:45.480 Him exposing
00:21:46.600 himself to Paula
00:21:48.480 Jones, which
00:21:49.400 started that lawsuit.
00:21:51.200 So let's go back
00:21:53.140 to this, Glenn.
00:21:53.540 Let's think about
00:21:54.200 the absurdity of
00:21:55.160 this.
00:21:55.440 So Glenn
00:21:56.900 Starr, in the
00:21:58.240 midst of this
00:21:58.980 incredibly intense
00:22:00.600 impeachment battle,
00:22:01.780 knows that his
00:22:02.560 classmate from
00:22:03.540 Yale, Brett
00:22:04.720 Kavanaugh, is a
00:22:05.580 guy who he
00:22:06.440 witnessed doing
00:22:08.340 exactly the same
00:22:09.720 thing that Bill
00:22:10.340 Clinton is being
00:22:11.020 accused of, and he
00:22:12.520 never mentions this
00:22:14.180 to anybody?
00:22:15.820 That is such an
00:22:17.540 amazing piece of
00:22:20.060 evidence.
00:22:20.720 That is, that to
00:22:21.840 me, when I read
00:22:22.720 this from you
00:22:23.440 yesterday, I
00:22:24.740 thought to myself,
00:22:25.560 that is the most
00:22:27.420 damning piece of
00:22:28.780 evidence on this
00:22:29.820 article than
00:22:31.240 anything else, and
00:22:32.920 anything else.
00:22:33.660 They didn't think
00:22:35.240 that the guy who
00:22:36.720 was coming after
00:22:38.380 his client, Bill
00:22:40.160 Clinton, he had
00:22:42.220 witnessed, that
00:22:43.100 attorney had
00:22:43.740 witnessed him do
00:22:44.760 exactly the same
00:22:46.000 thing as he was
00:22:47.500 investigating on the
00:22:48.800 president, and he
00:22:49.500 wouldn't bring that
00:22:50.220 up?
00:22:50.760 He wouldn't expose
00:22:51.640 that.
00:22:52.040 Impossible.
00:22:52.840 Impossible.
00:22:53.960 Impossible.
00:22:55.180 Exactly.
00:22:55.860 And what's
00:22:56.380 remarkable to me is
00:22:57.380 that I'm the only
00:22:58.400 one I know of that's
00:22:59.220 really made a big
00:23:00.120 deal out of this, and
00:23:01.300 it's not because I'm
00:23:02.600 any great shakes.
00:23:03.700 I mean, as you guys
00:23:04.820 know, I'm very
00:23:06.120 disoriented in this
00:23:07.020 story because I'm
00:23:07.560 actually defending
00:23:08.100 somebody I like, and
00:23:09.180 I might actually win
00:23:09.980 on this one.
00:23:10.540 That's very strange
00:23:11.320 for me.
00:23:13.360 That never happens.
00:23:15.380 But I really
00:23:16.820 honestly believe that
00:23:17.940 the biggest problem
00:23:18.720 here is that there's
00:23:19.500 so many issues in
00:23:20.780 the story.
00:23:21.640 I mean, they
00:23:22.540 leave out their 1.00
00:23:24.260 biggest bombshell.
00:23:25.360 There is a bombshell
00:23:26.380 in this new book by
00:23:28.000 these Times reporters
00:23:28.940 who clearly now, as
00:23:30.860 we're learning more,
00:23:31.660 snuck this into the
00:23:33.080 New York Times.
00:23:33.720 This was snuck in on
00:23:35.240 a weekend in a story
00:23:37.280 that was labeled
00:23:38.000 something totally
00:23:38.820 different about Yale's
00:23:39.900 culture, and they
00:23:41.580 snuck these things in
00:23:42.600 there that did not
00:23:43.360 pass muster on the
00:23:44.320 news side.
00:23:45.340 But the biggest
00:23:46.020 bombshell this book
00:23:47.020 has isn't even in the
00:23:48.540 article, which is that
00:23:49.880 Leland Kizer is now
00:23:51.480 on the record for the
00:23:52.760 first time.
00:23:53.280 Leland Kizer, Christine
00:23:54.660 Ford's best friend at
00:23:56.060 the time, who was
00:23:56.820 allegedly at this
00:23:57.700 party, which has no
00:23:59.840 place and no date, no
00:24:01.500 year even, no way of
00:24:03.520 getting home, no way of
00:24:04.460 getting there, all sorts
00:24:05.500 of problems.
00:24:06.400 But she is now on the
00:24:07.820 record saying that it
00:24:09.020 makes no sense to her
00:24:10.360 this story and that she
00:24:11.380 has no confidence in it
00:24:12.820 and that she was the
00:24:15.360 victim of an
00:24:16.180 intimidation campaign of
00:24:18.360 Ford allies to try to
00:24:20.120 get her to lie on her 0.62
00:24:21.860 behalf.
00:24:22.740 Ladies and gentlemen,
00:24:23.880 you don't have to go to
00:24:24.640 journalism school to know
00:24:25.660 that's an actual
00:24:26.740 bombshell, and that's not
00:24:28.460 even in the story.
00:24:30.240 And it's not in the story
00:24:31.520 because it doesn't fit the
00:24:32.820 narrative that the New
00:24:33.700 York Times and their
00:24:34.920 liberal subscriber base
00:24:36.360 once, in fact, they would
00:24:37.860 probably have gotten
00:24:38.580 irate if the New York
00:24:39.780 Times had given that, the
00:24:41.320 weight that it deserved
00:24:42.540 because I believe it
00:24:43.720 shows that Brett Kavanaugh
00:24:45.140 is an innocent man, not
00:24:47.140 someone who you can't
00:24:48.080 prove this about.
00:24:49.280 He's totally innocent.
00:24:51.760 And that the Ramirez 0.57
00:24:52.880 story that this Times
00:24:54.620 piece was focused on is
00:24:56.140 an urban legend.
00:24:58.060 You want to know the
00:24:58.660 closest thing I can come
00:24:59.540 up with to this?
00:25:00.640 Remember the Richard
00:25:01.580 Gere gerbil story?
00:25:03.340 Yeah.
00:25:04.160 That's what this is.
00:25:05.740 This is the, maybe
00:25:06.660 somebody actually did have
00:25:08.120 a gerbil removed from
00:25:09.060 them in a hospital
00:25:09.720 sometime.
00:25:10.340 And then it somehow
00:25:12.080 got attached to Richard
00:25:13.400 Gere's name.
00:25:15.340 Well, Brett Kavanaugh
00:25:16.440 was the most famous
00:25:17.260 person to come out of
00:25:18.220 that fraternity at Yale.
00:25:19.700 Something happened to
00:25:20.920 Deborah Ramirez.
00:25:21.980 And many, many years
00:25:23.220 later, when it became
00:25:24.180 politically feasible, it
00:25:25.900 got attached to Brett
00:25:27.080 Kavanaugh.
00:25:27.820 And that's what happened
00:25:29.180 here.
00:25:29.480 It did not actually have
00:25:31.160 zero evidence when there
00:25:32.500 should be plenty that
00:25:33.300 Brett Kavanaugh did
00:25:34.080 anything to Deborah
00:25:35.300 Ramirez.
00:25:35.680 And I believe that the
00:25:36.660 Ford story is a
00:25:38.420 therapy created memory
00:25:40.120 where Ford was trying
00:25:41.540 to save her marriage
00:25:42.500 and came up with a
00:25:43.280 reason for why she was
00:25:44.220 a nut job and, and,
00:25:45.720 and use Brett Kavanaugh
00:25:47.180 because he was also
00:25:48.100 famous at the time.
00:25:49.240 Well, he's a lefty and
00:25:50.360 he's, he's a righty.
00:25:51.440 I will tell you this.
00:25:52.620 I think the, this is the
00:25:54.480 first time that you don't
00:25:56.200 really have, he said,
00:25:57.180 she said in this
00:25:58.720 particular case that they
00:26:00.060 are running on now and
00:26:01.780 trying to impeach him
00:26:03.400 today, trying to, and to
00:26:05.740 get to Congress to go along
00:26:06.960 to impeach him on this
00:26:09.160 story.
00:26:10.340 Um, it all jumped on it
00:26:11.560 before they had any of
00:26:12.380 these facts, all these
00:26:13.360 politicians, Ocasio-Cortez
00:26:15.060 and Kamala Harris, they
00:26:16.060 all just ran with it with
00:26:17.320 no evidence at all.
00:26:18.440 Correct.
00:26:18.880 So they have this, but
00:26:21.300 because of who made the
00:26:24.020 allegation, the former
00:26:25.920 Clinton attorney, now you
00:26:28.120 have something where you
00:26:29.720 can look at that and say,
00:26:31.040 there's no way, there's no
00:26:32.980 way this is true because he
00:26:34.900 would have used it at that
00:26:36.500 time.
00:26:37.480 There's absolutely no way
00:26:38.920 this is true.
00:26:40.120 And a hundred percent, but
00:26:41.340 let's even go farther with
00:26:42.700 that.
00:26:43.220 He also doesn't do, Steer
00:26:44.860 doesn't do an interview
00:26:45.980 with the New York Times.
00:26:48.020 Now, now what does that
00:26:49.120 tell you?
00:26:49.660 That tells you, if you
00:26:50.800 know anything about
00:26:51.540 political operatives, that
00:26:53.020 he took his shot when he
00:26:54.820 thought there was a chance
00:26:55.900 of Kavanaugh going down.
00:26:57.460 And now that Kavanaugh is
00:26:59.060 confirmed, he's like, I
00:27:00.280 don't want anything to do
00:27:01.040 with this because, because I
00:27:02.680 don't even have a victim
00:27:03.500 that backs me up on
00:27:04.680 this, maybe his memory
00:27:07.920 contrives something in the
00:27:09.280 midst of the chaos, who
00:27:10.320 the hell knows?
00:27:11.340 You know, that was a very
00:27:12.060 strange time during the
00:27:13.060 confirmation hearings, but
00:27:14.500 clearly he has no
00:27:15.460 confidence in his own
00:27:16.260 story because if he did,
00:27:17.760 he'd be wanting to tell
00:27:18.620 everybody and that he
00:27:19.800 would be thrilled that
00:27:20.620 the Times wanted to
00:27:21.440 revisit this because the
00:27:22.860 Senate, even the Senate
00:27:23.800 Democrats didn't take his
00:27:25.140 story seriously.
00:27:26.520 They never, they knew
00:27:27.800 about it and they passed
00:27:29.120 it off to the FBI.
00:27:30.040 So, John, I want to ask
00:27:32.100 you now for an opinion as
00:27:33.800 a guy who writes about
00:27:35.460 the media.
00:27:36.940 What the hell is
00:27:38.580 happening?
00:27:39.700 I mean, is there any
00:27:40.820 sense at all from anyone
00:27:43.420 in mainstream media that
00:27:45.380 it's like, okay, this has
00:27:46.680 gone far enough.
00:27:47.560 I can't do this anymore.
00:27:49.580 I don't, well, to answer
00:27:50.720 your question, I don't
00:27:51.660 think so yet.
00:27:52.460 I wrote, interesting, I
00:27:53.380 wrote a column, a second
00:27:54.660 column about this today,
00:27:55.780 which you can find on my
00:27:56.660 Twitter feed to Zygmunt
00:27:57.660 Freud and the Mediaite
00:27:58.780 about why this happened.
00:28:01.060 And I think you'll agree
00:28:02.200 with this column when you
00:28:02.980 get a chance to take a
00:28:03.600 look at it because it's
00:28:04.560 about the culture of the
00:28:05.840 left-wing mainstream media.
00:28:07.680 And you have swum in those
00:28:09.760 waters as of I on numerous
00:28:11.780 occasions.
00:28:12.700 And it is my opinion that
00:28:14.640 there was no one in the
00:28:16.220 room when these decisions
00:28:17.780 were being made about this
00:28:18.920 story who has the mindset
00:28:20.520 of, you know, someone like
00:28:21.580 you or someone like me or
00:28:22.460 Stu who might go, guys,
00:28:24.840 hold on a second here.
00:28:26.660 You know, not everybody
00:28:27.720 is already convinced that
00:28:29.100 Brett Kavanaugh is a sexual
00:28:30.440 predator.
00:28:31.340 I mean, everybody in that
00:28:33.100 room believes that.
00:28:34.460 And so therefore, there's
00:28:35.980 not a lot of scrutiny on
00:28:37.140 the alleged evidence that
00:28:38.200 that's the case because
00:28:38.820 they already know it to be
00:28:39.640 true, even though it's not.
00:28:41.520 And so there's nobody on
00:28:42.800 the other side to go, hold
00:28:44.360 on.
00:28:44.800 And then there's the worst
00:28:45.940 part of this, in my view,
00:28:47.260 is the incredible amount of
00:28:49.180 arrogance.
00:28:50.080 I mean, people who work at
00:28:51.120 The Times are unbelievably
00:28:53.540 arrogant.
00:28:54.440 I mean, you know, God
00:28:57.020 could tell them one of
00:28:57.960 their stories is wrong and
00:28:58.880 all they would do is pass it
00:29:00.060 off for a second fact
00:29:00.960 check.
00:29:01.640 I mean, they really they
00:29:03.280 really do believe that if
00:29:05.320 it's in The Times or if a
00:29:06.460 Times reporter says it's
00:29:07.460 true, that it must be true.
00:29:10.080 And and that's no longer the
00:29:11.260 case, because frankly, you
00:29:12.800 know, staffs have been cut.
00:29:14.560 Fact checking is no longer
00:29:15.780 what it was.
00:29:16.720 There's a rush to get
00:29:17.680 stories out there.
00:29:18.660 And and this is the other
00:29:20.160 element.
00:29:20.980 They are now beholden to a
00:29:22.860 liberal subscriber base and to
00:29:24.980 nutjobs on Twitter who are
00:29:26.880 effectively editing their
00:29:28.440 newspaper.
00:29:29.540 And I think that's why they
00:29:30.620 left the Leland Kaiser quote
00:29:32.080 out, because if they put that
00:29:33.500 in there, they would have
00:29:34.600 pissed off a whole lot of
00:29:35.800 their liberal nutjob
00:29:36.680 subscriber base.
00:29:38.280 And that's not the way you
00:29:39.240 run a newspaper of record.
00:29:40.960 That's that.
00:29:41.540 It's just a business.
00:29:42.720 That's all it is.
00:29:43.620 And their business model is
00:29:44.900 appealing to liberals.
00:29:46.000 All right.
00:29:46.140 I've got about two minutes,
00:29:47.080 but I can't let you go
00:29:48.700 without saying, wow, how
00:29:51.900 did you feel when Malcolm
00:29:54.140 Gladwell writes a book and
00:29:57.360 a chapter is about Penn
00:29:58.940 State and he uses most of
00:30:00.720 your stuff and says, I think
00:30:02.920 John Ziegler is right.
00:30:05.480 Yeah.
00:30:07.940 Well, considering the hell I've
00:30:09.540 been through in the last seven
00:30:10.560 years, other than the one day
00:30:11.720 I spent with you guys talking
00:30:13.000 about this story, which was
00:30:14.680 a reprieve.
00:30:16.140 I was a little bit shocked,
00:30:18.020 to say the least, although
00:30:18.800 I've been working on Malcolm
00:30:20.020 for quite a while.
00:30:21.420 I've done an interview with
00:30:22.500 him.
00:30:22.700 I feel people will check out
00:30:23.980 from my my world.
00:30:25.240 According to Zig podcast, you
00:30:26.360 can also find that at the top
00:30:27.420 of my Twitter feed.
00:30:28.780 I hope people will take a look
00:30:30.080 at it.
00:30:30.600 If we 10 years ago, Glenn, I
00:30:32.580 believe that Malcolm Gladwell
00:30:34.180 looking at the Penn State Joe
00:30:35.460 Paterno, Jerry Sandusky case
00:30:36.700 and saying, wait a minute, this
00:30:37.940 doesn't make sense.
00:30:38.820 Take a look at what John
00:30:39.740 Ziegler has done would have
00:30:41.160 potentially changed the
00:30:42.160 world.
00:30:42.600 We don't live in that media
00:30:43.700 climate anymore.
00:30:44.440 No, much like much like with
00:30:46.060 Brett Kavanaugh.
00:30:47.200 And by the way, the Kavanaugh
00:30:48.260 story and the Penn State story
00:30:49.780 are remarkably similar in many,
00:30:52.360 many ways.
00:30:53.080 And the bottom line is
00:30:54.320 neither of them are true.
00:30:55.900 And there's no evidence to
00:30:57.180 suggest they're true.
00:30:58.200 It's all about politics.
00:30:59.440 And I hope people will take
00:31:01.060 another look.
00:31:01.800 I was gratified, but I'm also
00:31:03.440 a realist, you know, Glenn.
00:31:04.780 And so I know you're not.
00:31:07.040 You're a you are a bigger
00:31:08.600 pessimist than I am.
00:31:09.940 You're not a realist.
00:31:11.140 You're like, everybody is bad.
00:31:14.460 Everything is against
00:31:15.900 everything.
00:31:17.060 We're all going to die.
00:31:18.600 If you would live my life on
00:31:20.160 this Penn State thing, you'd
00:31:21.320 agree with me.
00:31:22.060 I can assure you.
00:31:23.620 But I was glad to get some
00:31:25.080 sense of vindication.
00:31:26.200 It might extend my marriage for
00:31:27.400 another couple of years.
00:31:29.260 John Ziegler, freespeechbroadcasting.com.
00:31:32.920 You can follow him on Twitter
00:31:34.200 at Zygman Freud.
00:31:36.740 Zygman Freud is that.
00:31:38.940 You can find him on the
00:31:39.780 Individual One podcast and
00:31:42.600 read him at Mediite.
00:31:44.780 Well worth listening to, well
00:31:46.820 worth considering John
00:31:49.420 Ziegler's opinion on many
00:31:51.080 things.
00:31:51.660 Yeah, I listened to that
00:31:52.240 podcast, by the way, with
00:31:53.220 Malcolm Gladwell.
00:31:53.940 I mean, he was unequivocal.
00:31:55.480 He said, I think, it was
00:31:58.240 something like, I am ashamed
00:31:59.660 to live in a world in which
00:32:00.960 these people went to prison.
00:32:02.420 Yeah, it's pretty amazing.
00:32:03.400 I think that's real good
00:32:05.820 vindication for John Ziegler.
00:32:07.320 John, thank you very much.
00:32:11.060 This is the best of the
00:32:12.580 Glenn Beck Program.
00:32:13.360 Hey, it's Glenn.
00:32:25.280 And if you like what you hear
00:32:26.140 on the program, you should
00:32:27.160 check out Pat Gray Unleashed.
00:32:29.260 His podcast is available wherever
00:32:31.180 you download your favorite
00:32:32.420 podcast.
00:32:35.420 Yeah.
00:32:37.200 From the frozen tundra.
00:32:40.280 Or something like that.
00:32:41.820 For the very first time,
00:32:45.840 Glenn Beck runs circles around
00:32:48.680 Stubrigir, a Canadian sports
00:32:52.380 legend.
00:32:53.560 That's true.
00:32:54.320 That part is true.
00:32:56.240 I'm not Canadian, but I am a
00:32:57.820 sports legend in Canada, to be
00:32:59.880 clear.
00:33:00.980 For fact checkers out there, I
00:33:02.220 don't want media matters all
00:33:03.100 over me.
00:33:04.640 Should we talk about the
00:33:05.300 Browns? 0.95
00:33:06.240 Let's talk about the Browns.
00:33:08.320 In fact, let's talk about, let's
00:33:10.020 talk about Beckham and the
00:33:11.020 Browns. 0.65
00:33:12.780 Okay.
00:33:13.640 All right.
00:33:14.440 And you know, of course, his
00:33:15.660 full name.
00:33:18.040 Odell Beckham.
00:33:19.800 Junior, yes.
00:33:20.580 Junior.
00:33:21.300 Yeah, okay.
00:33:21.880 I didn't think I needed to say
00:33:23.500 that.
00:33:23.640 His nickname, of course.
00:33:25.140 I'm not going to get into all
00:33:26.260 of those.
00:33:26.580 Okay.
00:33:27.040 Let's talk the facts here.
00:33:28.800 Sure.
00:33:30.200 Why are you reading?
00:33:31.460 What?
00:33:32.000 No, I'm just curious why you're
00:33:33.080 reading in the middle of the I
00:33:34.440 know sports so well, I'm going to
00:33:35.720 run circles around you.
00:33:36.360 Well, I just have a couple of
00:33:37.680 notes here.
00:33:38.240 For instance, what was he
00:33:39.940 wearing, Stu, when he took the
00:33:42.960 field?
00:33:43.700 You are cutting out.
00:33:45.520 Oh, no.
00:33:46.760 Yes.
00:33:47.000 I'm in trouble.
00:33:47.780 You're in trouble.
00:33:48.660 I am going to run circles around
00:33:50.440 you.
00:33:50.820 This is the one time.
00:33:51.980 Sports talk.
00:33:53.200 Odell Beckham, Jr., of course,
00:33:54.760 wide receiver, Cleveland Browns,
00:33:56.400 was a little controversy around
00:33:59.040 him as he was wearing a very
00:34:01.000 expensive watch.
00:34:02.280 Yes.
00:34:03.040 On the field.
00:34:04.020 Yes.
00:34:04.400 And now Glenn is going to run
00:34:06.880 circles around me with watch
00:34:08.220 talk.
00:34:08.720 Yes.
00:34:08.880 Is this what I'm predicting?
00:34:11.300 Well, have you heard what?
00:34:12.240 Okay.
00:34:12.480 So last week, you know that he
00:34:15.240 wore a Richard Mill watch, which
00:34:18.900 was about $250,000.
00:34:21.420 Yeah, I had heard $350,000.
00:34:23.120 It may have been a lot of money.
00:34:24.480 It's a lot of money.
00:34:25.280 Okay.
00:34:25.420 This week, he wore another Richard
00:34:30.060 Mill watch.
00:34:30.780 Now, these watches are absolutely
00:34:35.100 phenomenal.
00:34:38.640 They are tribunes, which is a... 0.99
00:34:44.260 It's not even...
00:34:45.160 They're so crazy, they're not even
00:34:47.100 needed anymore.
00:34:48.460 Okay?
00:34:48.900 Okay.
00:34:49.200 They were made originally for pocket
00:34:51.440 watches because a pocket watch, the
00:34:54.420 center of gravity would always be at
00:34:56.280 six.
00:34:56.660 You'd put it in your pocket, and it
00:34:59.760 would sit that way, and you'd pull
00:35:01.220 it out, and the six would be, you
00:35:03.000 know, going down to Earth, so the
00:35:04.320 gravity...
00:35:05.160 Right.
00:35:05.580 Okay?
00:35:06.040 So a torpillion had to make sure
00:35:08.960 that it was...
00:35:10.900 You could rotate it any way that you
00:35:13.020 wanted, and it made the gravity
00:35:15.980 thing go away. 0.56
00:35:16.820 So the inner workings of the watch
00:35:18.920 are particularly rare.
00:35:20.820 It made it particularly expensive and
00:35:23.020 rare, okay?
00:35:23.960 And it makes it so it is the most
00:35:26.300 accurate time piece, okay?
00:35:28.820 Okay.
00:35:29.200 It keeps that...
00:35:30.240 It's the machinery in it, if you
00:35:32.760 will.
00:35:33.460 It's in a cage, and it swivels no
00:35:36.080 matter how you move it.
00:35:38.020 All right?
00:35:38.540 So it's crazy.
00:35:39.680 Seems amazing.
00:35:40.460 And they usually start at about $150,000.
00:35:43.620 What he wore was this yesterday or the
00:35:50.100 day before.
00:35:51.300 Last night.
00:35:52.040 Last night.
00:35:52.540 What he wore on the field last night
00:35:54.680 was a $2.2 million watch.
00:35:58.380 What?
00:35:59.240 $2.2 million.
00:36:02.680 It is a Richard Mill 5602.
00:36:07.740 It is a Torbillon.
00:36:10.140 It is completely transparent.
00:36:15.980 Now, his watches are known to be...
00:36:19.280 I believe they may all be made out of 1.00
00:36:22.480 carbon.
00:36:23.900 You can't even feel them on your wrist.
00:36:27.180 They are so incredibly light.
00:36:29.060 But they're big.
00:36:29.740 This one is made out of a solid piece
00:36:34.060 of sapphire that they have to hollow
00:36:38.120 out.
00:36:40.840 They hollow it out.
00:36:42.200 It takes them 450 hours to hollow out
00:36:46.540 the sapphire.
00:36:47.460 It's all glass.
00:36:49.580 Then they take another 350 hours to
00:36:54.160 polish it perfectly clear.
00:36:56.040 Then they take a 0.3 millimeter cable,
00:37:01.880 like a cable on a bridge.
00:37:03.660 Right.
00:37:04.160 They take this cable and they attach it
00:37:06.680 at the 12, the 9, the 3, and the 6
00:37:09.660 position.
00:37:10.440 And they suspend the gear inside the
00:37:15.300 watch.
00:37:15.780 So it's floating inside the watch.
00:37:19.060 Okay?
00:37:19.780 This is a lot of work to get the time.
00:37:21.860 This is a lot of work.
00:37:22.860 My phone just...
00:37:24.040 It's on there all the time.
00:37:24.500 It gives you the time.
00:37:25.140 Yeah.
00:37:25.260 It doesn't do anything different,
00:37:26.820 but tell you the time.
00:37:27.620 Right.
00:37:28.060 Okay?
00:37:28.760 It is the hardest surface ever.
00:37:31.960 They say it's impossible to scratch
00:37:33.840 unless you're using a diamond cutter.
00:37:36.420 Okay?
00:37:37.500 So that's what he took...
00:37:39.280 By the way, there's a total of 10 of
00:37:42.840 these that were made.
00:37:44.120 10 in the world?
00:37:45.140 In the world.
00:37:45.920 And he's wearing one in the middle
00:37:47.100 of a football game.
00:37:47.840 10.
00:37:48.840 Unbelievable.
00:37:49.760 My guess is he's not buying these.
00:37:53.160 My guess is he doesn't own those.
00:37:55.260 Oh, really?
00:37:56.320 That's my guess.
00:37:57.280 I could be wrong.
00:37:58.580 Ah.
00:37:59.300 So it's like a marketing thing?
00:38:00.640 Yeah.
00:38:00.800 Like they're paying him to wear them?
00:38:02.500 Yes.
00:38:03.200 Richard Mill is a big sports fan.
00:38:05.600 He's a big auto racing fan.
00:38:07.480 And so he likes his watch being seen in sports.
00:38:13.260 He gives them sometimes to elite tennis players
00:38:16.600 in exchange for advertising.
00:38:19.040 I think this is an advertising campaign
00:38:21.840 that Beckham is doing.
00:38:24.900 And obviously all they have to do
00:38:26.480 is pay him more than the fines.
00:38:28.400 Right?
00:38:28.760 I mean, for it to be smart for him to do it.
00:38:31.200 Oh, do you have a fine if you're wearing advertising?
00:38:33.060 You're not supposed to be wearing...
00:38:33.940 Wait, wait.
00:38:34.520 This is your sports segment
00:38:35.500 where you know everything about sports.
00:38:36.700 Remember?
00:38:37.180 I was asking you rhetorically.
00:38:39.620 Oh, okay.
00:38:40.280 Yes, there's a fine.
00:38:40.940 You're not supposed to be wearing
00:38:41.620 foreign hard objects during the game,
00:38:45.500 which could wind up being an issue.
00:38:47.360 So why is he getting away with this
00:38:49.300 without being fined?
00:38:51.560 I've never seen anybody wear a watch.
00:38:53.720 Especially one like...
00:38:54.520 The first one he was wearing was huge.
00:38:56.120 I mean, it was like noticeably big.
00:38:57.700 Like, they're very hard,
00:38:59.440 but they are very light.
00:39:01.340 I mean, he would not...
00:39:02.240 It would not throw you off at all.
00:39:04.740 That's the one thing about these watches.
00:39:07.380 You don't even know you're wearing it.
00:39:10.300 It is...
00:39:11.080 I've seen them one time.
00:39:12.740 I've been to a store that carried them,
00:39:14.760 and I said,
00:39:15.680 I gotta try it on.
00:39:17.640 And the guy was like,
00:39:18.300 okay, don't let anybody see this.
00:39:19.640 And I tried it on,
00:39:20.460 and it's an amazing feeling watch
00:39:22.660 because it looks so big,
00:39:24.480 and yet it's so heavy.
00:39:26.340 Right.
00:39:26.480 I mean, it's so light.
00:39:28.500 That it's phenomenal.
00:39:29.660 So it wouldn't affect him playing at all.
00:39:32.900 But I'm...
00:39:33.640 You know, I wouldn't be wearing it out there.
00:39:36.040 But I think...
00:39:36.800 I know.
00:39:37.760 I think Richard Mill would want it out there
00:39:40.040 because...
00:39:40.740 Everyone's talking about his watch now.
00:39:43.000 Right.
00:39:43.200 Okay, yeah.
00:39:43.720 I mean, I don't think they fined him yet.
00:39:45.300 They are...
00:39:46.240 They're saying as of right now,
00:39:48.280 he's not being fined.
00:39:49.240 We'll see if he continues to push it,
00:39:51.160 how long that works.
00:39:53.600 So he's not...
00:39:55.700 He can't wear anything for advertising.
00:39:58.460 If he was given these watches,
00:40:01.280 could...
00:40:01.880 Would he be...
00:40:02.840 Would that be advertising?
00:40:04.940 I mean,
00:40:05.620 it's not advertising.
00:40:07.300 It's just a watch, right?
00:40:08.120 I mean, I don't know.
00:40:09.200 I mean,
00:40:09.800 the fact that they're...
00:40:10.640 The fact that you're talking about it,
00:40:12.680 right, is a...
00:40:13.480 It's a guerrilla campaign.
00:40:15.460 Yeah.
00:40:15.620 Right?
00:40:15.900 So I don't think it would necessarily fall under that
00:40:18.260 unless there was an obvious arrangement
00:40:19.860 that came to light.
00:40:20.940 Yeah.
00:40:21.300 I think it's...
00:40:21.900 Somebody's got to figure it out, though.
00:40:22.980 I think it's absolutely brilliant.
00:40:25.000 Unless he purchased them,
00:40:26.400 then you're just dumb as a box of rocks
00:40:28.320 for wearing it.
00:40:29.480 Yeah.
00:40:29.820 You know,
00:40:30.280 hey, I got a $2.5 million watch on my arm.
00:40:32.560 A 300-pound guy's about to stick his helmet
00:40:34.880 onto your $2 million watch.
00:40:37.060 Except,
00:40:37.880 it does say something.
00:40:38.900 This is why this one really stuck out to me.
00:40:41.540 Because why would you wear a glass watch?
00:40:43.220 Well,
00:40:43.440 if it's the Sapphire that took
00:40:45.280 a thousand hours
00:40:47.980 just to make the Sapphire.
00:40:50.960 A thousand hours
00:40:52.500 just to make the Sapphire.
00:40:55.100 And it's the hardest surface,
00:40:57.300 they say,
00:40:57.620 in the world.
00:40:58.900 That's...
00:40:59.340 What better than having,
00:41:00.740 you know,
00:41:01.560 a 350-pound monster come after you
00:41:03.760 and not hurt the watch or scratch it?
00:41:05.380 It's a good commercial.
00:41:06.080 It's a great commercial.
00:41:08.300 All right.
00:41:08.860 Sorry to make you feel stupid.
00:41:10.160 no,
00:41:10.440 you definitely...
00:41:11.280 I would not have known
00:41:12.840 any of those things
00:41:14.100 if not for this segment.
00:41:15.360 I mean,
00:41:15.520 I hear people talk about it all the time.
00:41:16.980 They're like,
00:41:17.300 well,
00:41:17.420 did you see this watch?
00:41:18.780 No,
00:41:18.980 no,
00:41:19.020 no.
00:41:19.340 Look those watches up.
00:41:21.760 I'm a fan of the watch world.
00:41:24.420 You didn't want to talk about
00:41:25.180 his 89-yard touchdown catch?
00:41:27.760 Well,
00:41:28.000 maybe we'll do that next time.
00:41:29.260 We're going to leave it here.
00:41:30.620 Put it down on the field
00:41:31.820 and we'll pick it up later.
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