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Glenn and Stu are joined by the family of Charlie Kirk and the TPUSA family as they pay their respects to the late Charlie Kirk. They talk about freedom of speech, Antifa, and the hypocrisy of the left.
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On this podcast today, still from Arizona, this time at our radio affiliate KFYI in Phoenix,
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Arizona, as we are here with the Charlie Kirk family and the TPUSA family celebrating the
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life of Charlie Kirk this week. We talked about freedom of speech, some of the things that are
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happening now. Finally, we're taking on Antifa. And of course, Jimmy Kimmel is crying because
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two companies have decided they're not going to carry the Jimmy Kimmel show.
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So that is their right as individuals to do. I am uncomfortable if the if the government
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gets involved. Now, that wasn't said by anybody on the left when the government got involved
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with, oh, I don't know, Twitter and Facebook. Let's look at the files on that, shall we?
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Again, crocodile tears and in the hypocrisy is enough to just choke you to death. Also,
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we continue with Peter Navarro. We have the nurse and the doctor. You remember the doctor
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who was making fun of Charlie Kirk and saying that he deserved it, et cetera, et cetera, in
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front of a patient. The nurse reported him. She got fired at first. Then now she's been
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rehired and the doctor was fired. We talked to her on the program as well.
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Back in Dallas today. Thanks for coming out yesterday, Stu, and being here. It meant a lot
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Yeah, it was awesome for them to host us. Just great people.
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And a great organization. So I was glad to be part of it.
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So what is your take on the Jimmy Kimmel stuff, Stu? Where am I missing it?
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Well, I think you're going to get pushback from both sides probably on it at some level,
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which I guess you're used to at this point. This is your life.
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I think the left is going to say there is pressure from the government here and they're very upset
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about that. Now, I can't even note how I feel about that because I'm so in I'm so overcome
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by rage at the hypocrisy of them complaining about government cracking down on speech.
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Thank you. I mean, there's a hundred million examples of this. Twitter files is a great one,
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though. The standard we had to hit to prove that that story mattered was like we needed to have
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Joe Biden pounding on the windows of the office building at Twitter, screaming at them to take
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off individual conservatives. That's the standard we had to hit for that story matter. We have all
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sorts of emails from the government pressuring these companies to say, pull down this speech.
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They shouldn't be able to say this. They shouldn't be able to say that.
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And and the the White House is very concerned about this. And the White House is thinking
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Yeah. And I mean, yeah, like that part of it, too. And it was behind the scenes. Now,
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it was also public, but it's more than that behind the scenes. Now, we might find out that this was
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going on behind the scenes with Brandon Carr. I don't know. We'll talk to him about it. We'll ask him.
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Um, you know, and I, you know, my my it's hard to separate the hypocrisy here and the how infuriated
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I am that they would even make these arguments to even come up with what my preferred policy would
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be, which I think is pretty similar to yours. If the left wants to join in unity to work with us to
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defang all of these three letter agencies from going through and ruining all of public life,
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I cheer it on. Bring a put a bill on there today. Chuck Schumer. We will all vote for it. I would
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love that. These are all of their organizations with their rules organizing these these policies
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that are lining up against private interests. This is all their stuff. None of us wanted any of it.
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Right. And this is why you don't make those agencies more powerful. This has been our point
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the whole time. Somebody you make them powerful. Somebody that you don't like comes in and wants
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to play the game the way you've been playing. You're not going to like it. Yeah. And that's exactly
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what they're accusing us of doing. Wait a minute. Doing what you were doing. It's using the agency
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that you created to do these kinds of things. The the IRS targeting conservatives, the FCC targeting
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conservatives, you know, the White House targeting conservatives. I mean, did you yesterday the
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FBI, their their Arctic frost probe probe was released. This is the FBI targeting 100 GOP groups.
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OK, including the Republican Party, the Democrat, the Republican National Committee, the RNC,
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the Republican Attorney General Association, Trump political groups. They were all placed under FBI
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investigations. OK, it was it was part of this Operation Arctic Frost. And it was it was
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politically investigating Trump using partisan FBI agents and DOJ prosecutors so they could improperly
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investigate everything about the Republican Party. Now, nobody's saying anything about that. I want to
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defang the FBI so it cannot do that to the DNC or to the RNC. I want to defang this. This is what we
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call the weaponization of government. And if you don't like it, like Stu said, we will stand with you
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shoulder to shoulder to defang these things. Shoulder to shoulder, I will stand right with you saying
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the government shouldn't have the power to do that. Let's get rid of this agency or let's defang
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this agency to the point to where it can never target anybody on any side unless you're breaking
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the law. That's what I want. Yeah, I'm fine with getting rid of the government licensing of these
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stations. There's all sorts of stuff we can go down if this is what you actually want. But of course it
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isn't. They want all of this power. I mean, Glenn, we talked to a man who the Department of Justice
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sentenced to prison for posting a Hillary Clinton meme. Yes. Prison. They sentenced him to prison for it,
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not the prison of the Hollywood home of Jimmy Kimmel, where he now has to get paid tens of millions
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of dollars to stay home because a bunch of the stations that carry him don't want to show anymore.
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Not that. They tried, they wanted to put him in prison. He lived through a decade-long legal struggle
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to fight off prison time for posting a meme. This is insanity, Glenn. This has happened over and over again
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and the hypocrisy is there. But as you point out, the question here is, and I don't think, and this is of course
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the problem with today's media, I don't think many people actually listened to the entire Brendan Carr
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interview. Again, we can ask him about this ourselves. I'm sure he'll come on with us today
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or tomorrow. Yes. But like, he talks often about, they're like, you know, I think it was Benny Johnson
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who was interviewing him and he kept asking him like, well, what do you think? Should he be pulled
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off the air? And what he said over and over again, he didn't take a position on that because he said
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it's very possible we might need to be the judge in a case that comes up. Now, we have to deal
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with this our entire lives. Our business is built around whether the FCC deems us able
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to be able to broadcast. I was 13 years old when I had to take a test at the FCC office
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in Seattle, Washington. 13 years old trying to get my third phone license. I don't even
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know what a phone is because it's not the kind of phone we talk on. I had to get a third
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phone license at 13 years old so I could just talk on a microphone. Okay? That's how crazy
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it was. I've dealt with the FCC my whole life. I despise the FCC. I despise them. But I know
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their rules and I abide by their rules because that's the rule of law. You want to get rid
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of the FCC? I am with you. But you know why the right or the left doesn't want to do that?
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Because they have used the FCC to strangle people like Rush Limbaugh, me, Sean Hannity,
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anybody. They've used them when they had control to strangle us almost to death. And yet we still
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survive. You know why? Because ours is real. Our people actually listen to us. It's not like Jimmy
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Kimmel that is, Jason, what is it? Jason's still doing the research trying to find out what Jimmy
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Kimmel's actual ratings are. What place is he so far that you can find in all of... Remember,
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Tucker Carlson left when he was second, second in all cable news. Where is Jimmy Kimmel's show
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ranking on all network shows? So this is complicated because of ratings. And on one of these I can find
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he's around 150th. But on another one I'm doing, it ranks about 120 shows on primetime shows. He ranks
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anywhere from 95 to somewhere between 110 and 120. So dead last, pretty much, in all of these.
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He's in the group of, you know what? Find the ones that are around, you know, in the 90s. Find the shows.
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Let's see if anyone has ever seen any of these shows that are at 110.
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Yeah. And we've mocked Stephen Colbert for losing tens of millions of dollars as he has been doing.
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He crushes Jimmy Kimmel in the ratings. Just talking about Colbert, who is a complete failure.
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He's still dominating when it comes to this. And what's funny about this is you get like the idea,
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the essential concept here is that Trump doesn't want anybody making fun of him and they're trying
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to get everybody thrown off the air. All of his political enemies. I'm sorry. One place you can
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go and hear jokes about Donald Trump probably tonight, I don't know if he's on hiatus, but
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is Stephen Colbert's show. Who's still on the air? Who's still on the air? We had this whole situation
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with South Park where they're constantly mocking Donald Trump. The merger still went through.
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No, there is no reason to believe that Donald Trump is trying to get everybody off the air
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that disagrees with him. This is a pretty unique case. This is a case in which Jimmy Kimmel,
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which by the way, he wasn't really even making jokes about Donald Trump. He was basically mocking
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the situation. I mean, he wasn't mocking. He was also mocking Trump, but he was mocking.
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He was lying. And he was lying about the situation.
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He's lying. I don't care if you want to mock, mock. I think you're a despicable human being.
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You're not changing my view on that. So continue to mock all you want, Jimmy Kimmel. You're wrong
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for mocking a situation like that. But you were lying. You were lying. That's where the FCC will
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get involved. If the FCC does get involved, because the one of the FCC, the big thing with
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the FCC is, are you serving the public interest? Lying, openly lying about something is not serving
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the public interest. That's the thing with the FCC. Okay. They're not making something up.
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You're a lot. You are knowingly lying about a very important thing. Yeah. Imagine, imagine
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this would be like Johnny Carson or who was the guy who was, I think it was Carson after Martin Luther
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King is shot. If he would have gone on and said, you know, it was Martin Luther King's family that
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killed him. It was all his supporters that killed him. That, that's what Jimmy Kimmel did. That is
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the same exact example. You know, it was, it was the Democrats that killed RFK. You know, they're
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going to do everything they can to make sure that they don't, that it's not found out that the shooter
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of RFK was, uh, was actually a member of the democratic party. Johnny Carson wouldn't have done
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that because there was no evidence of that. In fact, all of the evidence went the other way,
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the exact opposite way on both of those examples. You can't do that. That's just lying. You're not
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serving the public. What you're doing instead is you are hurting the public and the public's interest
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and hurting the Republic. That's stuff you can get sued for bare minimum and maybe lose your license.
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Yeah. I mean, then that's of course what Trump has done with some other lawsuits when they've lied
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about this stuff. He's sued them directly and won, uh, or at least pressured, uh, them into settling,
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uh, which again, all this stuff is stuff you could complain about if you're any other party on earth,
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but the modern Democrats. Correct. And here's what, and here's what, and here's how you solve it.
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This is how I have sold, you know, when Van Jones and the white house came to complain and put
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pressure on Fox, went into Roger Ailes office and sat down. Roger said to them, look, if he's made a
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mistake, we'll correct it right now. Just give me a list of all the things that he said is untrue.
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They couldn't produce a list because there wasn't anything. They came back two weeks later and said
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that I had said that Van Jones had gone to prison when he only went to jail. And I corrected that
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that night I corrected it, but that was the extent of my lies. Okay. They said I was lying about
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everything. The way to correct that is to point it out and correct it. Jimmy Kimmel is not willing
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to correct this. Now he might be now, but he wasn't then. If you got it wrong, you lead with your
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mistakes. The next night you go on and say, you know what? I said something and I was wrong about it.
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We got our facts wrong. That's how you solve it. But they're never willing to do it. Look at
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Colbert. The facts are you suck. Your ratings suck. And nobody wants to sponsor your show.
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You're costing $40 million more than what the company makes. It's not workable unless you're
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in a communist country. It doesn't work. And what does he do? He lies. He gets an Emmy for standing up
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and saying, Trump is targeting me. It's just not, it's not workable. It's not workable in a free
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society. I would have been okay with Colbert if he had just come on the next day and said,
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actually, I said something the other day. I made a mistake. I do suck. That's actually the reason for
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All right, let me talk to you a little bit about Antifa.
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Antifa has finally been put on the terror list as a terrorist organization. I want to get into this,
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what it takes to be a terrorist organization. But terrorism is a word that just chills you to the
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bone or it should. The Department of Homeland Security lays it out clearly. Terrorism is the
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unlawful use of violence or threat of violence to intimidate or coerce a civilian population,
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influence government policy, or affect the conduct of government through destruction, chaos, or fear.
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That's the standard, okay? I think that's really clear. To affect the conduct of government through
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destruction, yep, chaos, uh-huh, and fear. Now ask yourself, this is not going to be hard. I'm not
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going to give you a lot of time to answer this question. Does Antifa fit that description? You knew
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the answer before I finished the question. Yes, it does. Look at Portland. For years, we saw coordinated
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campaigns where so-called anti-fascists brought not arguments, not debate, but weapons into the
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streets. They occupied and shut off the FBI in their own headquarters. Do you remember that? Nobody
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did anything. They bring bricks and Molotov cocktails, fireworks that are aimed at police precincts,
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and federal courts. Businesses have been looted and burned. Neighborhoods terrorized. Whole blocks were
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seized and declared autonomous zones. Places where the law had absolutely no authority. Now is that a
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peaceful protest? No, that is the textbook definition of using intimidation and violence to advance an
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ideology and intimidating the government to do what they want it to do. Now DHS says that terrorism does
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not require an international connection. Homegrown extremists fall under it as well, but the criteria
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is really important. Ideologically motivated violence. Now Antifa's stated mission is to dismantle systems
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of oppression, but the tools they use are firebombs and street beatings, targeting systems, civilians,
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officials, or institution. Well, they've assaulted journalists, shopkeepers, police officers, and city
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employees. In Portland, they surround the federal courthouses night after night with the explicit goal of
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driving the government authority. The intent to intimidate or coerce. Ask any small business owner
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who had to hang a we support BLM sign just to avoid their windows being smashed if they felt coerced.
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That is textbook definition of terror. Now compare that to the groups already on the domestic terror radar.
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White supremacist gangs, eco-terrorists, foreign inspired extremists. The through line on all of
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this is the same. Ideology plus violence equals terrorism. I plus V equals T. Ideology, violence equals
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terrorism. Antifa checks every single box. Well, but yeah, but it's not a structured group. That's a
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dodge. You know it. I know it. It's a dodge. Al-Qaeda didn't hand out business cards. They didn't say,
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let me check with Al-Qaeda headquarters. Let me see ISIS. What does the CEO of ISIS have to say?
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Lone wolf, lone wolf jihadists who pledge allegiance on, you know, a telegram channel still
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gets classified as terrorism because that's the tactics and the outcome that matter. Antifa operates
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as a network, but a decentralized network, but connected by shared symbols, shared targets,
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shared methods of violence. The DHS criteria, it doesn't require corporate organization charts.
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Okay, it doesn't. Well, yes, but who is their CFO? It doesn't have that. What they require is a
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pattern of ideologically motivated criminal violence, and you have it in Portland, you have it in
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Seattle, you have it in Minneapolis, you have it in Washington, D.C. The pattern is over and over.
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Courthouses are set on fire. Police are blinded with lasers. Journalists beaten in the streets.
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City blocks seized by force. Ordinary Americans are terrified into silence. That is terrorism.
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So the question is not whether Antifa qualifies, because they do. The real question that America
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should be asking today is, why the hesitation to name what they are? Why hasn't this happened a long
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time ago? Because once you admit that organized left-wing violence can be terrorism, the narrative
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completely collapses. It's not just angry kids in masks. It's a coordinated movement that meets the DHS
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definition of domestic terrorism. It's no longer kids that we just need to understand. It's college
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kids that stop believing. No, it's none of that. Now it's coordinated terrorism. And if we can call
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January 6 terrorism and DHS did, then intellectual honesty demands and requires that Antifa, through
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the same lens, is viewed the same way. Violence is violence. Coercion is coercion. Fear is fear. And
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the people of Portland and Seattle and countless other cities have lived through nights of terror at the
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hands of Antifa. So all that Donald Trump is doing now is just stop pretending. That's the only thing
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that has changed. He hasn't come up with some grand plan or anything else. He's just like, let's stop
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pretending it's not a terrorist group. Let's actually name what it is. You can't defeat an enemy if you
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can't name it. You know, we would have never defeated the Nazis if we said, well, the Nazis, I mean, it's just
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kind of a ragtag group and it's an ideology and it's not really, we would have never defeated the
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Nazis. We had to name the Nazis what they were, evil, evil. And not because of their politics. You can be a
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Marxist. Stu, what was the name of the communist we used to work with in Philadelphia? What was his
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name? Clinton. Clinton, that's right. And I love the guy. I just loved him. It was a diehard
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communist. He worked running the board of my show. And during the show, he would argue back and forth
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with me, you know, about communism. And I'd be like, Clinton, you're not going to win this argument, but
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God bless you. You're taking a paycheck. So, I mean, anyway, and God bless him. I had no problem
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with Clinton. We were friends. We were friends. It's not politics. It's about what you do with the
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politics. If you now take those politics and you decide you can kill people because you disagree
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with them, that's a problem. You can just take the streets and you can burn down buildings and you
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can put stores out of business. You can firebomb streets. That's when your ideology becomes terrorism
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because you've coupled your ideology with violence. I plus V equals T. That's DHS. That's the law.
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I want to take you to North Carolina here for just a second. I want to take you to North Carolina
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in the mountains where the hum of the cicadas, you know, and the rush of the, I think it's the
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Nantalahala, something like that, the gorge. All of these sounds of nature just drown out the noise of
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the modern world. Except on September 6th, a Jeep Grand Cherokee rolled to a stop on the roadside.
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And we have video of all of this. Driver stepped out, not with curiosity of a traveler, like this
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is so peaceful at night, but with malice of a vandal.
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Right in front of him was a banner that just said Trump 2024. It's a canvas of political allegiance
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that fluttered in the wind for months and months and months. And it belonged to the mother of Mark
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Thomas. He was the owner or is the owner of paddle in rafting. Okay. And to the mom, it was more than
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cloth. It was conviction. The man paused all on video. Now paused, looked around, then tore it down.
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There was no debate, no discussion. He just took somebody's private property, crossed onto it,
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and then took and vandalized and destroyed it. And he did it in rage and threw the banner in the dirt.
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It was garbage to him. Then he climbed back into his vehicle and he prepared to drive off.
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But he wasn't alone. Mark Thomas had been watching him. And first he was shocked. And then he stepped
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outside with his rifle. You know, the kind of weapon a mountain man would keep, not for
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politics, but for protection and maybe to hunt and eat. He took his rifle, fired two warning shots
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up in the air, said, you're being watched. And this isn't, this was, this was not terrorizing him.
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He was saying, you're being watched and there's going to be a consequence. Okay. You're not free to do
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that. That's when it turned really dark. The man rolled back his sunroof, raised a firearm, a gun
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of his own and fired not into the air, but toward Thomas. The man standing on his own property under
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his own flag, defending nothing more, uh, than his own property. Uh, a defending something that was
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so terrorizing. It was a piece of fabric proclaiming his belief in the current president of the United
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States. Bullets crack out, hit right behind Thomas. He stands his ground. Minutes later,
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the suspect circles back, making another pass, squeezing off more rounds and then fleeing into
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the night with his license plate concealed. Sheriff is called the investigation still ongoing shots were
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fired. They identified the vehicle. Um, and Thomas said, you know, he took my property. I was telling
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him to knock it off and he was trying to kill me. This is, this is what's happening in our country.
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And by the way, you know, Jimmy Kimmel will tell you today, we're trying to do everything we can to
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make sure that we understand that the guy who tore down that flag was a, was a MAGA supporter.
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It's again, the same kind of terror that is happening. Florida man arrested by the FBI.
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He received a, um, uh, the FBI received a tip from the man's high school friend about something that
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this guy was posting on social media. His name is Michael Whitehead. He was in his apartment at Fort
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Myers, Florida, uh, 27 years old. And he wrote online, I personally will do everything I can to
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democide Republicans. Hmm. All American conservatives will be systematically erased.
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Her oppressors will suffer by my hand. I promise. Okay. Now he was arrested on September 10th,
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the same day. We were all talking about Charlie Kirk by that afternoon. This was going on in Florida.
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Now this guy's attorney, Whitehead's attorney says, well, that I can see it can be misconstrued,
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you know, especially with politics. You know, there's a fever out there. Well, there wasn't
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a fever out there on, on September 10th in the morning. There wasn't a fever. They had been
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investigating this guy. They had been tipped off before there was a fever. And I'm trying to find
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out, Stu, help me, help me misconstrue this. All conservatives will be systematically erased.
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I will personally do everything I can to democide Republicans. What democide means is for
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the government, the government to actually kill all Republicans. Okay. Her oppressors will suffer
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by my hand. I promise. How, uh, tell me, how can you misconstrue what he just said?
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This again is somebody on the left. Political violence just gave you three examples of political
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violent violence coming from the left in the last 10 days. This is the best of the Glenn
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back program. Let's say hello to our good friend, Peter Navarro. Hi, Peter. How are you?
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Uh, well, heavy heart, as you, as you might understand, my brother, Charlie, um, lost him. I knew him
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going back to 2016, uh, when I was on the campaign trail with, um, president Trump, then candidate Trump.
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Uh, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought Charlie young, young kid at the time. Uh, and I thought
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he was Don Quixote, to be honest. I mean, how would you ever mobilize the youth of America, which is so
00:32:46.180
left wing and, uh, lo and behold, Charlie, uh, taught us how to do that. And, um, he's going to be
00:32:55.600
missed and, um, it's a shame and, and, you know, all this stuff with Kimmel and this, that, and the
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other thing. I mean, I went to prison. So you won't have to the book is really a treatise on how the left
00:33:13.020
is basically engaged in a sustained attack on Donald Trump, his associates and the mega movement. And
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interestingly enough, I don't know if you know the full story, but for me, it started with, um,
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raid at Reagan airport where the FBI came. She's the first chapter of, I went to prison. So you won't
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have to, it, it started where they, they, uh, cornered me in the gangway, my, me and my fiance,
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a, uh, dangerous hombres that we are five armed FBI agents. I wound up. Well, Bonnie,
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her name is Bonnie Clyde. I'm just saying, there we go. Yeah. Yeah. All four foot 11 and 95 pounds
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of her, you know, and I I'm like, I'm 74 years old at the time. Uh, and the only thing I'm packing
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is a, is a, is a, is a sandwich for the ride, you know, it's kind of like, um, but, but what's
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interesting about this is the, the agent who took me, it was a guy named Walter Giardino, FBI agent.
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And it's, it's come out subsequently because of the efforts of, uh, Senator Chuck Grassley
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that Giardino was part of every attempt to, uh, stop Donald Trump from getting elected in
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2016, 2024, and 2020. And when Donald Trump was in office, he was one of the insurrectionists. And
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he was the guy who originally helped green light, uh, the steel dossier allegedly is, is reported by
00:35:00.200
whistleblowers. The steel dossier was, was the fake dossier that's undisputed that was manufactured by
00:35:07.380
Hillary Clinton's campaign, uh, to promote the Russia hoax. And, and that was, and, and, and this
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guy Giardino was one of the agents who said it was real, not fake. And that started the whole ball
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rolling. And we go through eight years of endless operations. And my point here is that, uh, they put
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me and Steve Bannon in prison. Everyone involved was a Democrat. Uh, they bankrupted my good friend,
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Rudy Giuliani with their law fair, Jeff Clark, John Eastman, good lawyers,
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helping president Trump. They're trying to take their bar cards away. As we speak four times in
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four different courtrooms, they tried to put Donald Trump in prison and came pretty damn close. If you
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ask me, uh, and two assassination attempts. And now Charlie Kirk, uh, with a bullet in his neck by some
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left wing guy groomed, um, in the dark corners of the internet by ideology. And, and this,
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I went to prison. So you don't have to is a, is a story about the, the dangerous and disturbing
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asymmetry between this, this, this relentless war on us by, uh, the left and, and how we're not really
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responding. And I don't know if you know this, I don't, maybe you saw the speech, but
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the day I got out of prison, I wound up on the stage of the Republican national convention, uh,
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in support of then candidate Trump, I went to prison. So you won't have, it was a tagline
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from the speech, uh, but, but, but the rest of it is simply that I'm a wake up call. What they did
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to me is a wake up call for this country that we have to do one thing. Okay. Uh, the five stages
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of grief. Now I have one additional and that's accountability. Okay. And if we don't hold these
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people accountable for what they did to me, to Bannon, to Trump, to Giuliani, to, to the, the
00:37:24.280
Christians who, uh, protested at abortion clinics, to the school board, people who, the parents
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who, I mean, if we don't hold these people accountable and they have names and I can give
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you their names, uh, then they'll do it again. I mean, make moments think about it. If we lose
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the house in 2026 and you put wackos like G crock, Jasmine crock and AOC, um, and, and Maxine waters
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in charge of that, that insane asylum, otherwise known as the house of representatives, uh, they
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will start issuing subpoenas again. And my case, by the way, is, is ongoing. I, even though
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I did my time in prison and there's no personal reason for me to pursue the appeal, I'm pursuing
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that appeal because my case us versus Peter Navarro is a landmark case in the constitutional
00:38:25.320
separation of powers and executive privileges. And the department of justice has already withdrawn
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their opposition to my appeal and gone back to what was 50 years of support for what I
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was forced to do by Congress in that subpoena. So these are, these are dark times, but we
00:38:48.200
do have Trump in the white house. We're getting good stuff done for the American people, but
00:38:53.200
we've got to solve this, this lawfare problem. They're just going to keep doing it.
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Well, you know, I said today, uh, Peter, that, you know, the left is saying we don't want
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the government to be able to regulate and tell people they can be on the air or off the
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air. And I'm like, I am, I've done broadcast my whole life. I'm the first to say, you want
00:39:13.560
to abolish the FCC. You want to take the, you want to defang the, the, uh, FBI. You want
00:39:18.840
to defang all of these, you grew them. It wasn't constitutional lovers that did that. It was a
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progressive movement on both the Republican and democratic side. I'm for defanging, but they
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don't actually want to defang it because they want the power. When they have the power, they
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want all of these rights to do what they're claiming we're doing now. I want to defang
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the whole thing. Do you think it's, do you think it's possible, Peter, that we can defang
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Well, he can do anything. And, and he's demonstrating that. I mean, on the, on the terror front, I mean,
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I was around when, during the first term, I was one of only three people, Stephen Miller and
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Dan Scamino were the other two who were there for the whole four years. Uh, and I was like
00:40:09.660
the China Hawk tariff guy. Right. And that first term, it was nothing but crosswinds and headwinds,
00:40:15.780
right? Very difficult to land the plane this time. I mean, everybody understands that the world's
00:40:22.120
cheapness. We're fighting back. We're getting, uh, all sorts of revenues for the American people,
00:40:29.140
$17 trillion in new investment at last count and, uh, factories, jobs, and it's just a beautiful
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thing. And by the, by the way, we're going to pay down the national debt with the tariff revenue. So,
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so I'm bullish on that, but on this, on this issue of, of the left, I mean,
00:40:50.780
these kids, he's just, that's a 22 year old kid picks up a rifle
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and shoots Charlie Kirk, uh, because he has been trained by folks on the internet to hate
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anybody who's in MAGA. It's like, I mean, I, I, every time they call us a fascist, right? I mean,
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think about this, Glenn, it's like, I went to frigging prison and everybody who put me there
00:41:24.000
was a Democrat. There were no Republicans except Liz Cheney who put me in prison. And that exception
00:41:30.580
proves the rule, right? Only Democrats put me in prison, put Steve Bannon in prison,
00:41:37.180
prosecuted Donald Trump, tried to overthrow his government, all Democrats
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and killed Charlie Kirk. And they tell us we're the fascists. And when they say that,
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and you can, you can see the clips. I'm sure you probably played a bunch of them. When, when
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Chuck Schumer went after, uh, the Supreme court, we wind up, he wound up sending a guy to blow,
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blow, uh, yes, have an odd house up or burn it down. It's like, what did they expect? They're,
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you can't, I mean, I'm, I'm all for free speech, but, um, you know, the old saw about,
00:42:20.300
you can't shout fire in a crowded theater. You can't be calling, I mean, Maxine Waters,
00:42:26.560
I think Maxine Waters and Jasmine Crockett should be, um, charged as accessories before the fact
00:42:34.300
in Charlie Kirk's murder, because they, they incite this. I mean, the hatred, you look at the
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internet and the crap people write these days, it's like, they wouldn't say that to your face.
00:42:49.760
Peter, I, I have to tell you, you and I both come from an old school where we wouldn't have
00:42:54.080
seen that. I think people are willing to say that to each other's face now. I mean,
00:42:57.960
the hatred is so deep. Um, and, uh, you know, this, this idea that Donald Trump and all of his
00:43:05.820
supporters are Hitler, they, they actually, you know, you say it enough times and enough people
00:43:11.340
start to believe it. These people actually believe that now. Um, it's a sickness. It is truly a mental
00:43:17.340
illness. Um, and they'll say it to your face. I mean, what, what's happening is, you know, I agree
00:43:23.460
with that. I wrote this article this week, uh, about that. Remember the broken window theory, uh,
00:43:31.300
Giuliani made famous. It's the idea that if you allow graffiti on the walls and broken windows
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and, and all sorts of petty crimes going on and you don't crack down on it, then, then it gets worse.
00:43:47.060
And Giuliani came into New York city at its low point, um, and forced the broken window theory,
00:43:54.440
started cleaning up the small stuff and the big stuff went away. That was it. And I think,
00:43:58.700
I think we've got the same thing you're talking about by which is that, uh, the, the, the speech
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on the internet is like, they start, they started small years ago and now that it's just, they'll
00:44:11.820
say anything. And, and no, I've watched these ice agents by tremendous respect for it. It's like,
00:44:18.600
why are we even letting people with mask get within 12 inches in screaming these people's face when
00:44:27.100
they're holding like bats or other kinds of weapons? I mean, I thought I'm ready. I'm ready for law and
00:44:34.760
order, my brother. And I want to, I want a masculine society. You know, the old, uh, saying about, uh,
00:44:41.980
an armed society is a polite society. I was Robert Heinlein. I don't remember where that came from,
00:44:47.700
or, you know, Charleston has to made it famous, but, uh, uh, an unmasked society is a polite society.
00:44:54.920
And whether it's unmasked in public or unmasked on the internet, um, I, I think, I don't know,
00:45:01.900
we've got to turn this around. Those with the baseball bats and the masks are the ones that
00:45:08.800
are now coming out and saying that I shouldn't be able to wear a mask. It's, I mean, the hypocrisy
00:45:14.060
is enough. Yeah. Peter, thank you so much for being on the name of the book is I went to prison. So
00:45:18.760
you don't have to white house, senior counselor for trade and manufacturing. Um, his story is amazing
00:45:25.060
what he saw in prison. I mean, it'll curl your hair. It really is. It's a wicked story. I went
00:45:30.900
to prison. So you don't have to by Peter Navarro, Peter, we'll talk again. Thank you so much for being