The Glenn Beck Program - November 15, 2024


Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Alex Jones & David Harsanyi ｜ 11⧸15⧸24


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R.F.K. Jr. is the new nominee for the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). Glenn and Alex discuss why they think he's a good fit for the position. They also discuss Alex Jones and the Blue Anon conspiracy theory.

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00:00:33.340 The podcast today, RFK Jr., the HHS nominee.
00:00:37.600 We talk about what changes we want to see in the FDA and elsewhere and what changes we really don't want to see.
00:00:45.480 But the idea of this revolution in government is actually very exciting.
00:00:51.160 Alex Jones comes on the program.
00:00:53.760 I am absolutely convinced his constitutional rights are being violated in at least two different amendments to our Constitution.
00:01:03.980 And he says three.
00:01:05.480 Also, the Blue Anon, the new understanding of who really believes in conspiracy theories and how do they spread?
00:01:16.940 Blue Anon with David Harsani on today's podcast in 60.
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00:02:55.300 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.
00:02:57.480 We're glad that you're here listening today.
00:03:00.580 I want to talk about RFK.
00:03:02.760 RFK has been named the HHS secretary.
00:03:07.600 Nominated, yes.
00:03:08.420 Nominated.
00:03:08.780 Okay.
00:03:09.420 He's going to get through.
00:03:10.980 I mean, he's going to get through if they have recess appointments.
00:03:13.200 I will say it's very likely he gets some Democrat votes.
00:03:16.740 I mean, the first people off the bench to make sure they were cheering this on were Democrats.
00:03:21.440 So very possible he gets a bunch of Democrat votes for this and he does get through if they
00:03:25.340 go through confirmation.
00:03:26.520 Let me ask you something.
00:03:28.240 They say that Donald Trump, you know, is so divisive and everything else.
00:03:32.920 Can you think of any president that has ever put in a major role an icon of the other side?
00:03:45.040 I can't.
00:03:47.660 And I mean, I'll just ask just this is just a question.
00:03:53.340 Yeah.
00:03:53.980 Any part of you a little concerned?
00:03:55.940 Yeah.
00:03:56.100 That we now have two lifelong Democrats nominated to very high level positions.
00:04:03.180 Not Tulsi.
00:04:04.080 I'm not worried about Tulsi.
00:04:05.660 Good.
00:04:06.520 I've had enough conversations.
00:04:08.800 Just the two of us.
00:04:10.020 No cameras.
00:04:10.700 No microphones.
00:04:11.620 Eye to eye.
00:04:12.660 And look, Republicans are far from perfect.
00:04:14.860 Yeah.
00:04:14.940 So that's not to say that there are not Democrats with with wonderful opinions.
00:04:18.540 I'm a little I'm a little I get a little concerned when you have people who have a long term worldview
00:04:27.120 that changes in a short period of time and then are elevated to high power, however, powerful
00:04:34.000 positions in the government.
00:04:35.060 I have I don't trust RFK.
00:04:37.560 You know, he's not personally and I'm not one to judge, but the way he has dealt with women
00:04:45.180 and it's the whole family.
00:04:46.860 OK.
00:04:47.660 Yes.
00:04:48.320 You know, not been good.
00:04:49.680 Not been good.
00:04:50.480 Not been good.
00:04:52.000 And, you know, but he's not being nominated for husband.
00:04:56.060 That's that's the lady. 1.00
00:04:57.460 I would stand against that.
00:04:59.180 OK.
00:04:59.840 So here's the here's the thing with RFK.
00:05:02.920 I have talked to him and if I was to hold myself to the standard I have always applied
00:05:09.360 to everyone else, if you can tell me long held vision of something and I'm right on this
00:05:17.940 and then you flip, you should be able to tell me exactly when that happened.
00:05:24.940 Exactly when you went, you know, enough is enough.
00:05:27.360 Yeah.
00:05:27.740 OK.
00:05:28.060 And he's certainly gone through stuff that would that would create a change.
00:05:31.320 He's told me that that.
00:05:32.920 And he told me that story.
00:05:34.540 It was during covid censorship just of him or what was.
00:05:38.140 No, it was seeing the state starting to take things and going way overboard.
00:05:44.620 He saw what he had always preached, but he thought that people would be more reasonable.
00:05:51.920 OK.
00:05:52.580 He never thought, well, you know, my government, my my people will never go wrong.
00:05:57.800 We'll never do that.
00:05:58.980 Just like many Republicans think, you know, their side.
00:06:01.680 No, both people are in both parties.
00:06:05.360 People go wrong a lot.
00:06:06.920 They go rogue and they go authoritarian.
00:06:09.600 And so when he saw, especially in California and New York, what was happening and you were
00:06:15.460 told you are not really a member of society unless you inject this into your body.
00:06:22.980 He realized, holy cow, I've been wrong on this.
00:06:28.200 I know he's and he's been right on the issue of vaccine mandates for as long as I've known.
00:06:33.860 Yeah.
00:06:34.280 He's never been a guy who's wanted vaccine mandates.
00:06:36.960 But that's been, of course, the thing he opposed.
00:06:38.500 The problem, of course, with authoritarians is they like to oppose.
00:06:42.840 They like to support mandates on things they like and oppose them on things they don't.
00:06:47.480 That's where I would disagree with his fundamental worldview.
00:06:50.340 But he does.
00:06:51.320 He does claim to have changed that.
00:06:53.480 Correct.
00:06:53.760 And the proof will be in the pudding.
00:06:55.560 Yeah.
00:06:55.720 If he gets in and he starts taking away choices on things, then we know he really hasn't changed.
00:07:06.380 What I'm looking for on the vaccine front, I happen to believe there's something wrong
00:07:12.720 with the vaccines that we're doing, maybe the combination of them.
00:07:16.440 I don't know what it is.
00:07:17.760 But when your kids are getting 30 to 80 different vaccines and autism is going through the roof,
00:07:27.600 something's wrong.
00:07:29.320 Just like the peanut allergy thing.
00:07:31.240 I don't know what causes that, but it wasn't happening to us when I was a kid.
00:07:36.760 I mean, you could have slathered peanut butter on the top of everybody's desk in every classroom
00:07:43.640 in America when I was going to school and nobody would be like, I got peanut allergies.
00:07:48.820 Wouldn't have happened.
00:07:50.220 So what happened to us?
00:07:51.840 And it is important that we look into that.
00:07:55.140 That doesn't mean that you have to be forced to, you know, get rid of JIF or whatever it is, 0.94
00:08:03.160 unless it's clearly poison, which it's not.
00:08:08.260 I want to know what's happening to our health.
00:08:11.540 Why our bodies are like this?
00:08:13.740 I happen to believe that there is too much, too much in heavily or what do they call it?
00:08:21.400 Ultra processed foods, which have saved the world from starving.
00:08:27.260 I mean, you, it's a balancing act.
00:08:29.460 It has saved the world from starving.
00:08:32.380 However, in our case, because we're never starving here, has this been whacked way out of balance
00:08:43.180 for America?
00:08:44.380 I don't know the answer, but I think that's what science should be looking into, not our
00:08:50.480 HHS secretary saying, you know, we're looking into global warming because it affects the health
00:08:55.680 of black children.
00:08:56.720 Warren, what are you talking about?
00:08:59.660 Okay.
00:09:00.540 Studies, by the way, RFK would have absolutely adored not too long ago.
00:09:04.720 Maybe.
00:09:05.260 I don't know.
00:09:06.740 I trust him as about as far as I can throw in.
00:09:09.520 And you do know he was up for, he was going to be also, this is not the first cabinet position
00:09:14.240 he's been considered for.
00:09:15.440 The other one was EPA head under Barack Obama.
00:09:18.660 Which would have been a nightmare.
00:09:19.780 Right.
00:09:20.360 So, you know.
00:09:20.980 It would have been a nightmare.
00:09:21.580 And look.
00:09:21.800 And Donald Trump knows that.
00:09:23.320 I mean, Donald Trump has said on stage, he has said it in person.
00:09:28.480 I know what we have here.
00:09:30.160 He's got radical ideas.
00:09:32.220 And as long as he stays in his lane and we're not going, you know, all over with global warming
00:09:40.900 and everything else, I think we should listen to him.
00:09:44.380 We should be clear.
00:09:44.960 His lane, in this particular case, is running an operation with a $2 trillion budget.
00:09:50.280 I know that.
00:09:50.860 So, can he improve it?
00:09:52.580 I'm sure there are improvements he can make.
00:09:54.180 Things like over, you know, trying to, you know, vaccine mandates is the easiest one.
00:09:59.460 Right.
00:09:59.660 I don't necessarily agree with you on vaccines.
00:10:03.380 Obviously, there are many arguments that you know well that would push back against the
00:10:07.320 things that you're concerned about.
00:10:08.760 And you can choose yourself whether, you know, you vaccinated your kids or not.
00:10:13.000 And I can get to choose that for me.
00:10:14.800 And I think if he has had this change from authoritarian, which I don't think there's
00:10:19.540 any question that's what he was.
00:10:21.120 I mean, obviously.
00:10:22.200 Oh, he said it.
00:10:23.220 He told me he was.
00:10:24.500 He was that guy.
00:10:25.480 If he's had that change from that to a person who respects personal liberties, I think he
00:10:30.540 has in some areas, I'm concerned when he's convinced he's right about something, that
00:10:37.180 those inclinations go away.
00:10:40.320 And that's where President Trump comes in to make sure.
00:10:43.700 Yes.
00:10:44.000 And look, Trump, look, Trump loves this.
00:10:46.760 He's famous for bringing McDonald's to football teams at the White House.
00:10:50.360 He's not like some crude when it comes to ingredients.
00:10:53.860 He likes his food.
00:10:55.040 He likes, you know, there's no question about that.
00:10:57.680 Here's what Robert F. Kennedy should be encouraged to do.
00:11:04.820 First of all, I don't trust science anymore.
00:11:07.080 Do you?
00:11:08.740 I mean, you trust something, right?
00:11:11.420 You're trusting something.
00:11:12.640 You're trusting the RFK version of science, right, at this point.
00:11:16.600 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I don't.
00:11:18.500 Because I don't know.
00:11:19.900 Everything's been politicized.
00:11:22.080 Yeah, that's true.
00:11:23.540 So, you know, I don't trust.
00:11:26.300 I'm looking for gravity exists.
00:11:32.620 That's what I'm looking for.
00:11:33.940 The planet is round.
00:11:36.520 Oh, don't get the people started.
00:11:38.160 You're getting them started now.
00:11:39.200 So, I'm looking for things that are universally true and are not changed by politics or opinions of anyone.
00:11:49.120 This is true.
00:11:51.700 I don't know if we have those scientists anymore because the whole system has been so corrupted.
00:11:57.720 We have some.
00:11:58.400 Yeah, I think we have many.
00:11:59.660 I think we have a lot of really good scientists who do a lot of really good work.
00:12:02.540 So, do I trust science?
00:12:03.860 Yeah, I trust science.
00:12:05.320 But I don't trust necessarily the public messengers of science.
00:12:08.600 And that, look, includes RFK Jr.
00:12:10.900 I know that.
00:12:11.600 I don't trust.
00:12:12.660 That's just who.
00:12:13.780 And that's why I always feel like the answer at the end of this is individual freedom.
00:12:17.200 It is.
00:12:17.600 Individual ability to make choices.
00:12:19.400 And if we start banning things because RFK Jr. doesn't like them, I'm against that.
00:12:25.460 Here's what I'm.
00:12:26.120 Here's what I.
00:12:26.920 Whether you think they're good or not.
00:12:28.640 Right?
00:12:28.900 Let me go back to what I was going to say on what his main.
00:12:33.140 This is what he should concentrate on.
00:12:35.740 Getting the pharmaceutical companies and big food.
00:12:39.640 And I don't even care if it's big spoon, big bowl, big fat guys, anybody who is out there that benefits from what the FDA approves and doesn't.
00:12:53.540 I don't want revolving doors where you're working for the FDA and then you get a sweetheart gig at some food or pharmaceutical company.
00:13:02.340 I don't want that.
00:13:03.760 They should be adversaries.
00:13:06.520 Okay?
00:13:06.760 They should be adversaries.
00:13:08.200 They should be reasonable.
00:13:09.640 But you can't keep going from one to the other.
00:13:13.760 He's got to clean up this nightmare.
00:13:17.720 It's a problem.
00:13:18.460 Of crony capitalism.
00:13:21.600 It's a problem, although it's also a challenging problem because, of course, who knows about pharmaceutical medications other than people?
00:13:29.120 You don't come from the janitor industry and become an expert on this.
00:13:35.160 You have to have some experience in understanding how it works.
00:13:38.540 So, but you're right.
00:13:39.860 It should not be crony capitalism is wrong.
00:13:42.560 And I always hate that term because it's not capitalism.
00:13:45.100 No, it's not.
00:13:45.660 When the government has a lot of power to do things over corporations, it's not capitalism at all.
00:13:51.220 Socialism or fascism.
00:13:52.180 So, here's the thing.
00:13:53.300 There are enough really well-qualified doctors.
00:13:57.240 We found them during COVID that they like science.
00:14:03.360 They like doctors.
00:14:04.420 They like medicine.
00:14:05.420 It's true.
00:14:06.160 They don't like the lies that are involved and the money that is exchanging hands behind the scenes in record numbers.
00:14:15.900 I'm against that.
00:14:17.060 I think you're against that.
00:14:18.980 That's what I hope RFK does.
00:14:23.100 Yeah.
00:14:23.420 And he may.
00:14:25.080 You know, I think he will on some things.
00:14:26.760 I'm concerned.
00:14:27.260 I am legitimately concerned about it.
00:14:28.980 I don't think it's a great appointment.
00:14:30.180 I would pick somebody else.
00:14:31.200 And if you were going to give RFK Jr. a role, I would prefer it to be in more of an adversarial role or an advisory role, right?
00:14:40.480 Something that they can just say, okay, no.
00:14:43.180 The problem is you put him in as HHS secretary.
00:14:46.160 When you don't want to replace him, you're talking about another confirmation process.
00:14:50.260 So, he's going to have a lot of leeway and I think probably too much leeway.
00:14:54.460 But I don't know.
00:14:55.820 Let me take a quick break and come back on this.
00:14:58.080 Because regulation is one of the top priorities for him.
00:15:02.220 Just slashing regulation.
00:15:04.940 Trump?
00:15:06.760 RFK.
00:15:07.440 He's like the FDA is so corrupt it should almost be shut down.
00:15:12.320 He may have said it should be shut down.
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00:16:56.540 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and we really want to thank you for listening.
00:17:02.900 Welcome back to the Glenn Beck program.
00:17:05.320 We have Alex Jones joining us in just a minute.
00:17:07.800 I want to remind you of the First Amendment.
00:17:12.700 The First Amendment says, freedom of speech shall not be infringed.
00:17:17.700 So, when you are offering your opinion on something, the government has no right to stop you from saying it.
00:17:25.580 Unless it is to cause a riot, and it results immediately in a riot.
00:17:33.860 It can't be something that you've planted the seeds, and then somebody riots two weeks later.
00:17:38.580 It has to be an immediate riot.
00:17:40.600 Okay, that is the Supreme Court's definition of not crying, you know, fire in a crowded movie house.
00:17:48.420 The Eighth Amendment is the one that says, no cruel or unusual punishments, and no excessive fines shall be imposed.
00:18:01.280 What happened to Alex Jones, I don't care what you think of him, what he said, I don't care.
00:18:08.320 The First and Eighth Amendment are being violated by our government right now.
00:18:13.800 So, First Amendment's easy.
00:18:17.420 No excessive fines?
00:18:19.640 He was fined $1.5 billion, and that came down from the, what, $2 trillion that they first said that he had to pay?
00:18:28.340 $1.5 billion.
00:18:30.260 The guy in his entire lifetime has made about $50 million.
00:18:33.880 There's no way he could ever pay that fine off.
00:18:37.600 That's excessive.
00:18:38.540 That's an excessive fine.
00:18:40.400 What happened yesterday was the government was supposed to auction off Infowars.
00:18:47.220 Now, if it's about retribution, what do you do?
00:18:56.980 You try to keep this guy unemployed.
00:18:59.560 But if you're trying to restore and make things whole again, well, you would go to the highest bidder, would you not?
00:19:11.780 Because you're trying to pay that fine, and that's going to make, apparently, these families whole.
00:19:18.960 Well, the government passed up the highest bidder.
00:19:22.980 Why?
00:19:23.460 Because, they said, that this would allow Alex Jones, unusual and cruel punishment, from being able to run it or be involved in it.
00:19:35.740 They wanted to give it to the Sandy Hook family.
00:19:37.840 So, the Sandy Hook family said, okay, yeah, when he gives us the $1.5 billion, then we'll kick in the extra.
00:19:45.820 That's not the way it, you know, I've been involved in auctions before.
00:19:49.860 Never did they let me bid on something and get it, because I said, yeah, but I'm going to get a raise, I'm sure, in the next couple of years.
00:19:56.700 So, let me buy it, and I'll pay you then.
00:19:58.440 Doesn't work that way.
00:20:00.820 Alex Jones, the founder of the Alex Jones Network and Infowars, joins us now.
00:20:06.420 Hello, Alex.
00:20:07.860 Did I get any of this wrong?
00:20:11.040 Glenn, I'm not kissing your butt.
00:20:12.860 I'm absolutely stunned how you boiled down in two minutes what I've tried to explain.
00:20:17.540 And you absolutely, 100%, hole-in-one nailed it.
00:20:20.840 But I've got major breaking news.
00:20:23.400 I'm getting chills right now.
00:20:25.040 And I'm going to tell people, first off, the FBI testified in the show Trial in Connecticut two years ago on TV.
00:20:31.200 I didn't know this until then.
00:20:32.100 They hit it in plain view.
00:20:33.680 That their chief counsel in Connecticut created the suits, organized the people.
00:20:37.640 They got the PR firms.
00:20:38.760 They hyped up and exaggerated what I did for two years, used my name to raise money for their anti-gun, anti-First Amendment groups, and then sued me, then found me in default, said I was guilty, and then had show trials literally produced by HBO.
00:20:52.300 Now, moving on from that, the federal judge, Lopez, just two months ago, very famously, when the last CRO and U.S. trustee appointed by the Justice Department, the judge agreed to it because they wanted to come into the case because it's so publicized, the Justice Department can do that.
00:21:10.900 They have a whole office of bankruptcy.
00:21:13.460 They then tried to close the doors in late May without a court order.
00:21:18.440 We got a hearing in two weeks.
00:21:19.940 I refused to let them close the doors.
00:21:21.560 I said I'd call the police when they came and told me to get out of the building.
00:21:25.760 And then the judge fired the federal trustee and the CRO but appointed a new one that was next to the rotation.
00:21:33.700 Now, the new one comes in and says, okay, well, Alex Jones is in bankruptcy too.
00:21:38.920 We're going to move to sell it at auction.
00:21:41.920 The judge says yes, but then they come out a few months ago, it was all over the news, and the trustee said, I'm going to sell the name Alex Jones Show, and I'm going to sell the name Real Alex Jones on X.
00:21:54.380 Elon Musk lawyers got involved.
00:21:55.840 They were there, by the way.
00:21:56.720 That's impossible.
00:21:58.260 It gets worse.
00:21:59.440 But here's the new news.
00:22:00.960 The judge a month ago in a hearing said, no, you must have new hearings on when you're going to have an auction.
00:22:07.040 And we have to have hearings on this, so they withdrew their claim on my name.
00:22:12.600 Chris Murray, the new trustee, and this is all in the news, in the transcripts are public from the hearing yesterday.
00:22:18.600 He, without the judge's authorization, the judge said this, went ahead with the auction, but here's the breaking news.
00:22:25.400 The judge said, this is even in Bloomberg yesterday, I did not authorize you to have this auction.
00:22:30.620 We were supposed to have hearings because you were making claims that violate the 13th Amendment against slavery.
00:22:34.740 It's not just the 8th and the 1st they're violating, as you just said.
00:22:37.360 And then Chris Murray is in Bloomberg and in the filing saying, the 13th Amendment does not apply to Alex Jones, close quote, in a filing.
00:22:44.300 So all of those amendments are attempting to be destroyed.
00:22:48.020 Then I waited yesterday until I said this to all my lawyers, some of them are the top bankruptcy people, said I'm authorized to say this literally 30 minutes ago.
00:22:56.340 The filings will be filed within one hour.
00:23:00.080 Now, get ready for this.
00:23:01.360 Not only did they have this fake auction, the judge said it was fake, they took $1.7 million cash, as you just said, pledge the rest in future money they get from me, when the judge's order was, it's a cash auction.
00:23:19.880 And now, basically, this is what the judge said, this was a private secret sale disguised as an auction.
00:23:27.840 Yep.
00:23:28.280 They then ignored the highest bid that was way, way, way, way, way, way larger.
00:23:36.380 And then the judge then excoriated them and said, the judge then excoriated them and said, we are now going to have a full evidentiary hearing sometime next week.
00:23:51.480 And my lawyers are filing.
00:23:53.220 They say it's cut and dry.
00:23:54.560 They're not bomb throwers.
00:23:55.960 They're cut and dry in their own admissions and Murray's own admissions on the stand that they had bid collusion because none of the bidders are supposed to talk to each other.
00:24:06.080 You have to disclose if there's another group.
00:24:07.680 You have to disclose if you're going to change the auction and then now claim that it's not cash.
00:24:13.060 It's a credit auction.
00:24:13.860 But they didn't even do that.
00:24:15.260 And here's the key.
00:24:17.160 Murray put out two months ago for the auction that November 8th was the last day to have your first initial bid in.
00:24:25.700 And it would be online with a big auction company and people could bid up.
00:24:29.120 That's the definition of an auction is sold to the highest bidder in Webster's Dictionary.
00:24:32.380 So then they have this private sale disguised as an auction.
00:24:36.280 Then they announce on Monday, the 11th at 2 p.m.
00:24:40.560 via email to my lawyers and everybody, we're disregarding the old auction filings and the money that was put down and the nondisclosures that were signed and the regular federal contracts that follow law.
00:24:50.800 We're now going to have sealed bids in on Wednesday, November 13th at 10 a.m.
00:24:56.960 There will be no further bids above that, which is not an auction.
00:25:01.420 And then we will choose, including we reserve the right to take a lesser bid.
00:25:05.760 So it was already fixed then.
00:25:08.000 And then that went forward.
00:25:09.220 So this is 100 percent, 100 percent cut and dry legal.
00:25:12.940 Sorry.
00:25:13.060 No, here's the thing, Alex.
00:25:15.100 You know, a settlement against somebody is to make the people that are suing whole.
00:25:25.260 There is a difference between restoration and retribution.
00:25:30.080 If the people want that, you know, we're not going after retribution, but restoration, then that that that fine that you got, then you had to pay the families was to restore them.
00:25:44.280 They can't suddenly say, well, we'll get this money from Alex while we take away his business and even his name.
00:25:56.740 You're not going to get any money from Alex.
00:25:59.540 And the reason why you would have an auction when somebody goes bankrupt is to make the other people whole.
00:26:07.860 This is clearly about retribution.
00:26:11.560 And Glenn, you're absolutely right.
00:26:12.940 They said on the courthouse steps in both rig cases, and they said in their filings, and they said in the Onion announcement, this is about punishing him and taking him off the air.
00:26:22.340 And the Democrat lawyer that runs all this, absolutely.
00:26:25.400 And the head Democrat lawyer out of Connecticut that runs all this said on ABC News last night, Alex Jones's punishment has just begun.
00:26:33.460 Listen, they turned down $70 million from me that I agreed to pay out over a period of years that I wasn't even sure I could make more money than, as you said, rightfully, than I've ever made.
00:26:43.900 And so they admit this.
00:26:44.860 They're not even denying.
00:26:46.440 And what's crazy is they're so arrogant that when the judge said do an auction months ago, they acted like they were going to do an auction up to two days before, less than 48 hours before, on Monday afternoon.
00:26:59.440 They throw out the real auction, pretend they have an auction, and this is cut and dry, and then they admit that they did all of this.
00:27:07.640 And, again, the judge's order said a cash auction.
00:27:11.240 This wasn't even a credit auction, as you said, promising my future earnings for them to be able to buy my company.
00:27:18.920 It is so ridiculously fraudulent on its face that my lawyers are speechless right now that they would try this.
00:27:27.840 But, again, they admit that the Justice Department is heavily involved in directing all of this, just like they got caught directing all the lawfare against Trump.
00:27:37.800 And they admit on MSNBC and CNN this model being used against me, if they're successful, will then be used.
00:27:44.540 And they've literally said the names in previous shows years ago, Tucker Carlson and Glenn Beck.
00:27:50.060 So I don't know if you've seen those newscasts.
00:27:51.880 I can send them to you.
00:27:52.520 You can send them to me.
00:27:53.520 I'd like to see that.
00:27:55.220 Look, Alex, Trump won.
00:27:59.200 We are cleaning out the DOJ.
00:28:04.260 I don't want to get involved in lawsuits because I'm not a judge, I'm not an attorney, and I'm not a jury.
00:28:12.000 But I will insert myself, when you see clear injustice against the Constitution, and I can quote the 8th and the 1st.
00:28:23.520 I hadn't thought of the 13th, but you say your attorney quoted that one.
00:28:27.740 It is clear that this is cruel and unusual punishment.
00:28:33.360 It is also retribution and an excessive fine, and it's all based on freedom of speech.
00:28:41.740 This is not going to stand, Alex.
00:28:43.640 And I hope that when the DOJ is cleaned up, this comes up and they prosecute anyone who did anything illegal in this case.
00:28:58.320 I totally agree, and Glenn, if you have time, just one last key point.
00:29:02.340 It gets worse.
00:29:03.900 So they have the secret fake auction Wednesday at 1030.
00:29:09.300 They say, we'll tell you sometime tomorrow morning.
00:29:12.640 I figure something's going on.
00:29:14.380 So I get to the office right at 730 when the call and the emails come through to my lawyers that you didn't get your IP, you didn't get your equipment, you didn't get everything, nothing.
00:29:26.280 And then Chris Murray, the U.S. trustee, shows up at 8 a.m.
00:29:31.400 right as I go on one of my other hosts has a live show, so I took it over at 8 a.m.
00:29:35.800 And I'm there, and he's ordering my crew saying, I'm a federal agent, because when he does his little hearings, he has the Justice Department seal behind him.
00:29:44.420 He says, you were ordered to turn this off, or I'm going to have you violating the state.
00:29:51.420 You're going to get in trouble with the court.
00:29:53.740 So he basically intimidated my IT people to, at 1030 in the morning, pull the plug on live broadcast when it wasn't a real auction.
00:30:03.480 The judge hadn't authorized an auction yet.
00:30:05.360 He had just authorized to have one in the future, and the judge said all this in court yesterday.
00:30:09.000 So they literally hijacked the building, turned the power off, turned the satellite off to the radio and TV stations.
00:30:15.400 Luckily, we built a backup studio, which we're calling the Alex Jones Network.
00:30:19.860 People can follow that on X at AJNLive or Real Alex Jones.
00:30:24.660 And luckily, we got in contact with most of our radio stations and only five minutes late got our satellite link that was already up and ready to them.
00:30:33.800 But this is literally, I'm not exaggerating any of this.
00:30:37.860 This is all going to be filed in federal court today.
00:30:39.580 Anybody listening that says this doesn't sound real, I understand.
00:30:42.600 It's in Bloomberg.
00:30:43.600 It's everywhere.
00:30:44.220 If you read deep from the articles that the judge, quote, you know, has serious questions about transparency, that he said the sale didn't go through.
00:30:51.740 And here they are everywhere saying The Onion bought it and all this, and it's not even true.
00:30:56.920 So imagine.
00:30:58.200 And all that people I've talked to said there's no way the judge doesn't at least order a new real auction.
00:31:03.120 But there's probably going to be more.
00:31:05.040 The law says that the real big bidder, by law, it will be forfeited to them, and they wouldn't have to face the jeopardy of another auction.
00:31:13.960 So there's a very good chance, with these emergency injunctions today, that I will be back in control of the InfoWars building and studios and systems, perhaps by this afternoon, but 99% chance by the full evidentiary hearing next week.
00:31:28.240 Glenn, this is epic desperateness and vigilantism by the desperate left.
00:31:32.120 Thank you very much, Alex Jones.
00:31:34.080 You can follow him at alexjones.network.
00:31:37.980 alexjones.network.
00:31:39.740 And, of course, on X at RealAlexJones.
00:31:43.960 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:31:48.640 Let me give you some facts.
00:31:51.060 Democrats are just as susceptible to conspiracy theories and quack science as they claim Republicans are.
00:31:57.600 Democrats have not accepted the results of a presidential loss in decades.
00:32:03.180 They are the original election deniers.
00:32:06.460 Democrats believe shadowy foreigners control our elections.
00:32:10.500 Democrats have convinced themselves that books are being banned.
00:32:13.960 They're not.
00:32:14.680 And one state even banned the word gay.
00:32:17.360 They didn't.
00:32:18.720 Democrats no longer just disagree with conservatives about issues, but rather they treat every Republican victory as a grievous threat to democracy.
00:32:27.200 Democrats rely on apocalypticism.
00:32:31.800 Is that a word working themselves and their voters into frenzies over the claims like the world's not going to, you know, end in 10 years.
00:32:41.360 It might it might end in five years.
00:32:45.020 We've got to get this done right now.
00:32:47.060 Democrats believe that social conservatives are plotting a theocracy.
00:32:51.200 Democrats believe conspiracy conspiracy conspiracy about our history, including that the Constitution is a document for white supremacists.
00:33:00.180 The left keeps falling for the racial hoaxes. 0.62
00:33:03.040 And polling shows Democrats are more likely to be Holocaust deniers and 9-11 truthers. 0.63
00:33:09.700 This is the rise of blue and on blue and on.
00:33:16.500 It's the name of a new book, rise of blue and on by a good friend of the program, David Harsany.
00:33:21.000 How are you, David?
00:33:22.460 I'm doing well.
00:33:23.300 Thank you.
00:33:23.680 Thanks for having me.
00:33:24.380 Yeah.
00:33:24.540 So right now, can we play this audio that's coming out of Pennsylvania, where the Democrats are now admitting that they are counting illegal votes?
00:33:35.500 Listen to this.
00:33:36.280 We reject all three categories of these ballots.
00:33:40.640 Your motion is to reject or dismiss the challenges in this category in front of you?
00:33:46.060 Correct.
00:33:46.480 Yep.
00:33:46.640 I'm not going to second that, mostly because I think we all know that precedent by a court doesn't matter anymore in this country, and people violate laws any time they want.
00:33:57.740 So for me, if I violate this law, it's because I want a court to pay attention to it.
00:34:04.600 David, that's a little astounding.
00:34:07.520 Is it just us?
00:34:10.720 No.
00:34:11.120 It is funny that these were the people who were crying about the end of democracy and framing Trump as a Nazi, but the truth always was that they were the ones who wanted to pack the court.
00:34:22.380 They were the ones who want to get rid of the Electoral College. 0.98
00:34:24.880 They were the ones who use executive power to do whatever they want.
00:34:29.920 I mean, that's always been the case.
00:34:31.060 So you, I mean, you came up with some amazing facts that you lay out in your book that they are more susceptible.
00:34:41.520 This is the one that blows my mind, more susceptible, more likely to be Holocaust deniers and 9-11 truthers than the Republicans are.
00:34:51.100 I mean, we have our own, probably just had Alex Jones on.
00:34:53.700 We have our own, you know, problems on the right where there's conspiracy theories and everything else.
00:34:59.120 But this, what's happening now with the side of the blue is it's mainstream.
00:35:07.100 It's Rachel Maddow, right?
00:35:10.120 Yeah, no, that's exactly right.
00:35:12.360 So I lay out the history of my book.
00:35:13.740 This didn't just start yesterday.
00:35:15.280 But the difference between Alex Jones and Rachel Maddow and, say, the Russia collusion thing is that the left will take a conspiracy theory.
00:35:22.860 They launder it through the media.
00:35:25.020 They polish it up with high production values.
00:35:27.280 They calibrate it to be plausible.
00:35:29.740 Then they bring in, you know, people we used to trust who are experts, you know, and former intelligence service officers, things like that, who will spread the conspiracy theory.
00:35:39.720 It's very difficult to debunk something like that.
00:35:42.440 And people are more prone to believe it.
00:35:44.460 I forget the exact number, but it was maybe 60 percent almost of Democrats believe that Russians had actually changed the vote tallies.
00:35:51.360 Not that they had sent some Facebook ads, but that they had changed vote tallies.
00:35:56.860 I mean, what was the percentage of that?
00:35:59.780 I'm like 58 percent, something very high.
00:36:02.360 What?
00:36:03.320 Democrats, yeah.
00:36:05.320 There's absolutely no evidence of that.
00:36:07.960 Yeah, they don't need evidence, as we've seen.
00:36:12.740 So how do you how do you break this?
00:36:16.960 It's difficult because, first, everyone, and it's already happening, will stop trusting institutions that tell them these things once they are debunked.
00:36:23.820 Then there's no one to trust, and that's not a good thing because, you know, yes, the media is terrible and all that, but you do need someone to watch over both parties, and you want them to do that in a real way.
00:36:34.200 It used to be biased, but now it's just complete activism, so you can't trust them.
00:36:38.660 So that has to break down, and I guess it has to be rebuilt.
00:36:41.360 But I don't think that happens very quickly because the entire culture of journalism, the entire culture in these giant agencies is all, you know, wrong.
00:36:50.340 It's demented.
00:36:50.960 So is there any hope among a libertarian like yourself that the country seems to be, seems to be on track to just throw them all out and shut down as much of this government as possible?
00:37:10.540 Does that give you hope?
00:37:12.280 Yeah, I think I am, yes, the hope I have because of this election is that people stop listening to those agencies.
00:37:20.320 People stop listening to the media.
00:37:22.420 They didn't believe that Trump was Hitler.
00:37:25.100 You see that in that every minority vote basically moved towards Trump.
00:37:29.620 I don't view this election really as a Republican win as much as I do just a normie win.
00:37:33.720 I think Trump is just kind of, you know, here's another thing.
00:37:37.320 Everyone always on the left that talks about Trump like he's this extremist.
00:37:41.200 His policy positions are incredibly moderate, I think.
00:37:44.960 I mean, there are things that people like to hear and want, and there's a normalcy to it.
00:37:51.000 Like, you know, I kind of think that the closest person to him is probably Harding, you know, who brought back normalcy after Wilson.
00:37:57.180 So I don't know.
00:37:59.320 I'm hoping he'll be more like Coolidge who followed Harding and really got the job done.
00:38:03.900 Yeah, I mean, I think they were both great, but yeah, Coolidge definitely got the job done.
00:38:09.100 David, can you go back to the history of the left of these conspiracy theories?
00:38:12.080 Because I remember when there was the birther thing was going on, and that was all over the place.
00:38:17.420 It was constantly covered.
00:38:18.820 And we would look back at polls of, let's say, the Bush era around 9-11, and Democrats overwhelmingly believed that George W. Bush was involved in 9-11.
00:38:31.320 Like, this was not – this is not something that –
00:38:33.640 Like, blowing it up.
00:38:34.560 Yeah, right.
00:38:35.420 Not just like, ah, I turned my eyes away from – like, blowing it up.
00:38:40.320 Yeah.
00:38:41.080 I mean, think about the difference.
00:38:42.040 Michael Moore got a standing ovation at the Oscars in whatever year that was, 2006 maybe.
00:38:47.180 For a documentary, there's a completely nut, nut job, crank conspiracy theory movie, right?
00:38:53.660 Like, it was just nuts.
00:38:54.520 It was one of the biggest – you know, it earned more money than almost any documentary.
00:38:58.800 I think at the time it was the biggest.
00:39:00.300 It was.
00:39:00.780 And the birther thing, everyone rejected that.
00:39:03.160 McCain rejected that publicly.
00:39:04.620 I don't know if you guys remember.
00:39:05.860 There was like some kind of town hall, and he rejected that.
00:39:09.560 And I don't think any person of – you know, who was elected made a big deal, except Donald Trump, I guess.
00:39:16.380 But the thing is, it's fine to ask questions about anything, an election, I think at least, about his birth certificate.
00:39:25.580 There's nothing wrong with that.
00:39:26.600 I think that once, though, the things are debunked and you still believe them, that's the problem.
00:39:31.060 And Republicans don't do that as much as Democrats.
00:39:33.500 If you ask anyone who – you know, a Democrat who was around, who won the 2000 election, they'll tell you it was stolen.
00:39:40.500 And there have been independent recounts of Florida that show that George Bush actually got more votes than were counted originally.
00:39:46.940 But none of that will ever stop them from saying it.
00:39:49.380 And people forget, 2004, they did the same thing.
00:39:52.220 Every major Democrat said that the machines in Ohio had cheated somehow.
00:39:55.980 And, you know, they never pay a price for it.
00:39:59.800 I just watched the video, I don't know, about a month or two ago, of all the House members that stood up and wanted to cancel the electoral college, the vote,
00:40:11.940 and not seat the electors, saying that, you know, this was a false count.
00:40:19.760 And they needed to start all over again.
00:40:22.440 I don't know if that was in December after that election or January 6th.
00:40:26.880 But everything they claimed Donald Trump was doing, they did.
00:40:30.440 And I bet they'll do it again.
00:40:32.840 A lot of projection, absolutely, with the election denialism.
00:40:37.340 I'll tell you the most – another one that's just really pernicious and actually just evil in a way is – and it's not just – my book's not just about conspiracy theories.
00:40:46.080 It's just about a paranoid style of politics – is the idea that black people can't vote, the suppression of the vote.
00:40:52.480 It's easier to vote today than it ever has been in any place ever in the world.
00:40:57.380 And yet many black people, over 60 percent, think that they're being stopped from voting.
00:41:02.220 So they think that white policemen are hunting them in the streets.
00:41:05.880 None of this is true.
00:41:06.840 Now, I'm not saying they aren't racists.
00:41:08.040 Of course they're racist.
00:41:09.280 But the idea that there's a systemic, you know, effort by white people just because of the color of their skin to suppress black people,
00:41:15.940 that's an evil thing to convince people of.
00:41:18.580 They don't think they have agency.
00:41:19.980 And, you know, and that happens because of paranoia, I think.
00:41:24.320 Where do you think – instead of saying where did this really begin,
00:41:29.180 what is it that sets us apart, Republicans or, you know, right and left,
00:41:36.280 that makes them inherently easier to fall into these conspiracy theories?
00:41:45.940 In a way, weirdly, I think it's kind of laziness.
00:41:48.940 So during the Obama years, if you said anything critical, they would just call you a racist.
00:41:53.180 It's a way not to debate.
00:41:54.800 So now if I say – whatever I say, people will accuse me of being bought by someone.
00:42:01.400 I'm being paid by, you know, Elon Musk or I'm a Russian dupe or, you know.
00:42:06.460 So I think that people get lazy and then, you know, it evolved into you're a Nazi or, you know, you're Hitler.
00:42:13.960 And I'm not sure there's any place to go after Hitler. 0.92
00:42:16.860 He's probably the worst.
00:42:17.560 Yeah, I know.
00:42:18.680 But they've been calling people Hitler literally since Eisenhower, who defeated Hitler.
00:42:25.340 But it wasn't as mainstream.
00:42:29.300 Like, people would make comments and it would be frowned upon.
00:42:32.680 But let's be honest, the whole – so I was watching – because of Schadenfreude,
00:42:37.680 I was watching MSNBC as the election went to Trump.
00:42:40.300 And it wasn't like they started saying, maybe we shouldn't have been calling everyone Hitler.
00:42:44.600 They were saying, how could all these people vote for Hitler?
00:42:47.220 You know what I mean?
00:42:47.680 They're not convinced.
00:42:49.680 So the incentives are all wrong there.
00:42:52.160 I know that's not what your book's about with the media, per se, and what's going to come.
00:42:56.780 But what do you think happens to the mainstream media?
00:43:00.840 I mean, I think they were the biggest – besides Kamala – they were the biggest loser this election. 0.96
00:43:07.680 They have – it is clear that no matter how much they collude, how much money they spend,
00:43:13.740 no matter how they all walk in lockstep from movies to shows in arenas to the TV, it doesn't matter.
00:43:25.200 People are done.
00:43:26.700 What happens to them?
00:43:28.020 Can they ever get that credibility back?
00:43:31.280 Yeah, sure they can.
00:43:32.340 But again, like I just said, I don't think the incentives are right yet.
00:43:36.340 It's not like –
00:43:37.160 They're out of jobs.
00:43:38.980 The networks are going away.
00:43:40.800 What kind of incentive do they need?
00:43:42.920 I don't know.
00:43:44.080 But think about how the Washington Post just wouldn't endorse and the whole place had a meltdown.
00:43:49.020 So there's a cultural problem.
00:43:50.420 It's not like those people are just going to disappear.
00:43:53.160 It starts in journalism school.
00:43:55.120 It's the editorial assistant who gets to decide to fire the New York Times editorial page guy for publishing a Tom Cotton op-ed.
00:44:03.780 I just don't see that changing overnight.
00:44:09.060 But maybe in the long run it can.
00:44:11.140 We spend a lot of money on politics.
00:44:12.620 I wish some of these billionaires spent more money on journalistic efforts on the right.
00:44:18.860 You want to be really – George Soros spends a lot on media.
00:44:23.060 Well, he does, yeah.
00:44:23.660 He sure does.
00:44:26.400 Yeah, he does.
00:44:27.520 Thank you so much, David.
00:44:28.580 I appreciate it.
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