The Glenn Beck Program - September 27, 2024


Best of the Program | Guests: Rob Schneider & Rep. Steve Scalise | 9⧸27⧸24


Episode Stats

Length

41 minutes

Words per Minute

185.20747

Word Count

7,695

Sentence Count

5

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

10


Summary

On this episode of the Glenbeck Program, Glenn and Stu discuss the recent assassination attempt on President Donald Trump and the aftermath. They also discuss what it's like to be shot in public, and what it takes to go back to work after being shot.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Stu your favorite part of the podcast today I mean the third part what the third part the third
00:00:05.920 part yeah I was gonna say the second see this is why we are so good sometimes we disagree on things
00:00:10.940 and we break it up into a randomly uh random lengths of segments so we don't even know which
00:00:16.720 ones we're talking we don't even know we don't even know that's how good this show is actually
00:00:21.500 it is a really good show but while we were doing it we didn't really listen but you should and
00:00:27.640 here's the best of next first next time you're standing just somewhere in your home I want you
00:00:34.420 to look around and go what would it take to sell this house uh if I wanted to put it online what
00:00:40.120 would I have to take and then you're quickly just dismiss that real quick because you don't want to
00:00:45.180 imagine all the things that you have to do because it's an awful lot of stuff I'm sure it's time to
00:00:50.020 realize a simple fact what you need is an expert to tell you all the things that you have to do
00:00:55.260 and the things that will bring buyers in to look at your house and that they can overlook uh and
00:01:02.900 and the things that you just have to do because people can't overlook that purple paint in the
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00:01:16.380 like buying a home you're not an expert in that field so you should talk to somebody that you can trust
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00:01:51.520 you're listening to the best of the glenbeck program welcome to the glenbeck program
00:02:05.700 we're facing an election and there's a lot of things that i'm against but there's a lot of things that i
00:02:11.280 am for and that's what we should be talking about i am for our kids not being sexualized
00:02:16.840 i am for a return to innocence for our children to allow them to be children i am for our schools
00:02:27.420 not indoctrinating our children but teaching them math reading science
00:02:33.380 i am for parents being responsible for their children that doesn't mean just not the government
00:02:42.080 that means parents should take responsibility for their children
00:02:46.160 i'm for absolute equal rights i'm not for special rights
00:02:53.100 i'm absolutely for equal justice not social justice
00:02:59.040 i'm for a sane legal and orderly immigration policy that does what's right for america's future
00:03:09.360 i am for the end of these endless wars
00:03:14.680 i am i am for the end of mutilating our children and actually following real science
00:03:26.380 i'm for safe neighborhoods safe schools
00:03:32.160 i'm for the little guy the hard-working person that keeps getting it in the butt from this government
00:03:41.340 i am for the end of the weaponization of this country
00:03:47.260 i'm for bad guys going to jail
00:03:54.180 and justice actually to be justice
00:03:57.960 i'm for the end of the two-tier justice system
00:04:02.980 that if you're connected or you're in the right group
00:04:05.740 you get away with it
00:04:06.900 i'm not a believer in
00:04:11.040 uh
00:04:12.280 being a racist to end racism
00:04:15.600 that that's that's ridiculous
00:04:17.920 that doesn't even make any sense
00:04:19.840 which means i'm for the return of common sense
00:04:24.000 steve scalise is supposed to call in sometime today
00:04:29.060 i don't know if he's calling in
00:04:30.640 you know i wanted to talk to him about
00:04:33.280 what it's like to walk off or be carried off a a field after being shot
00:04:39.600 how long does it take you before you aren't feeling the aftershock of that
00:04:45.920 you know it takes a brave person
00:04:50.120 to stand up in a crowd and speak again
00:04:53.200 after you've just been shot
00:04:55.280 and now he wants to go back to the exact same field
00:04:58.700 he's going next saturday
00:04:59.980 next week yeah
00:05:00.380 right after the assassination attempt said i'm going back
00:05:04.100 i'm doing a rally there
00:05:05.060 and you know at
00:05:06.720 it seemed like maybe the secret service had said please don't do that or something
00:05:10.140 because it didn't seem to happen
00:05:11.800 uh and but now it has been scheduled
00:05:13.980 he's going back to the exact same place i mean that is
00:05:16.020 i don't know man i i wouldn't be able to do that
00:05:18.640 i don't think so either
00:05:19.680 certainly more brave than i am
00:05:20.620 the one guy who would really know is steve
00:05:23.340 yeah he would know what it's like
00:05:24.900 steve scalise is with us now steve
00:05:27.020 how are you
00:05:28.760 well i'm doing great glenn how are you
00:05:30.960 i'm really good
00:05:32.280 it's good to talk to you
00:05:33.300 i know i know um listen i i just wanted to ask you
00:05:37.020 um because what i'm seeing from donald trump
00:05:39.840 and now especially that he's going back
00:05:41.900 to the same place where the shooting happened
00:05:44.040 this summer
00:05:44.640 you are the one guy that can relate to
00:05:48.660 being shot
00:05:49.740 uh for your views
00:05:52.660 for who you are
00:05:53.840 and then walking back in crowds again
00:05:56.780 what what does that feel like
00:05:59.000 how long did that take for you to
00:06:01.240 uh not have that natural reaction of
00:06:06.680 of you know is there somebody
00:06:09.440 am i safe am i safe
00:06:11.140 or did you ever have that
00:06:12.920 yeah glenn and you know and i was in the hospital for three and a half months
00:06:17.540 so you know you have a lot of time to
00:06:19.000 to focus on
00:06:20.280 what you know what are you going to do
00:06:22.900 kind of how are you going to approach this
00:06:24.380 this kind of new
00:06:25.780 you know attitude where you know you've been through something like that
00:06:29.080 and and of course those three and a half months i was fighting for my life so
00:06:32.120 you know but part of that was i i made an early decision because i really need to put
00:06:36.640 all my focus into getting better
00:06:38.280 you know i had to learn how to walk again
00:06:40.040 had to you know learn you know was i even going to be able to do things like that go back to work
00:06:44.480 and so you know once i got that mindset i said you know what i'm not looking back
00:06:49.700 like literally rip off the rearview mirror
00:06:51.520 i'm not going to worry about what got me here
00:06:54.740 god spared me
00:06:56.140 like i knew i i was given a second chance
00:06:58.620 and believe me i've talked to president trump about this since butler
00:07:01.800 and you know and we you know talked about kind of because he came to the hospital the day of the
00:07:06.000 shooting you know which is it was his birthday but he and melania came
00:07:09.460 really consoled my family at that lowest moment but i i just made a decision i'm not going to be a victim
00:07:15.220 i'm not going to focus on why you know he did it why i got here
00:07:19.500 i've got to put all my energy into getting better or else i won't get better
00:07:22.840 and once i did that it really just kind of changed my my outlook and my focus
00:07:27.460 you know i went back to the ball field when i got out of the hospital because i wanted to do
00:07:31.800 that i wanted to confront that and you know and go kind of like i'm not going to live in fear and
00:07:37.080 and just we you know we did that and it was therapeutic you know it was emotional but it
00:07:41.560 was therapeutic and then just you know i got on with my life and i i said you know god
00:07:45.740 i and believe me i have a deep faith but i put my faith in god and he
00:07:49.080 you know he he took care of me that day there were miracles performed but
00:07:52.660 you know you kind of at some point have to say it's in his hands he knows
00:07:56.040 what's going to happen next more than we do uh he he gives us the tools but he he also gives us
00:08:01.860 the freedom to go fail or go to go succeed to do whatever we want to do uh but but he also looks
00:08:07.500 out for us and and you know at some point you have to just have that that faith that god's got
00:08:12.020 the bigger plan you've got to control your day-to-day by you know what are you going to focus your
00:08:16.780 energy on today are you going to be positive or negative and i choose to be positive do you in
00:08:22.600 in watching donald trump i mean he went down on the ground uh i mean he would have moved his head
00:08:28.140 just slightly differently and and he would be dead today it would have been the worst live uh television
00:08:35.560 broadcast of all time um and uh but you know he moved his head that way i think that was i think
00:08:44.120 that was god interacting there was divine intervention absolutely absolutely and look
00:08:48.720 he knows that too glenn he you know that was part of you know the conversation we had as he knows like
00:08:54.380 steve i know i shouldn't be here and i think that recognition where you recognize life's bigger than
00:08:59.780 yourself you know somebody else does have a a hand in all of this and and you've just gotta let let
00:09:06.720 some of that go and realize you can do all everything right and get hit by a truck one day like you
00:09:11.800 don't know what's going to happen so just go live your life you know do the best you can every day
00:09:16.380 i mean here's a man donald trump who's who's put himself up for persecution by so many different
00:09:22.020 people who have gone after him and yet you know figuratively literally legally all of that and yet
00:09:27.900 he still moves forward he still knows i have to do this for the country and and he believes that and
00:09:33.620 believe me the country believes that too that you know you go to a trump rally you go to you know any
00:09:38.320 part of the country and and you know people know we are at a very volatile time right now and a
00:09:44.160 and a fragile time for the country you know which direction are we going to take as a nation i mean
00:09:48.220 these are bigger questions than any individual but donald trump represents that you know do we want to
00:09:53.680 get back to what our country was really founded on you know free market principles you control your
00:09:58.400 destiny government is there to do the basics not to control your life not to tell you what you can and
00:10:03.700 can't do this this is going to decide all of that on november 5th and he knows he's the only one
00:10:09.660 right now who can who can really turn this around and i believe that i think most people do uh and so
00:10:15.160 he uh he recognizes yeah there's there's people that that want to stop him i mean we've seen it twice
00:10:21.220 now directly and it's scary but you know you just gotta you can't let fear drive your life i'll tell you
00:10:27.380 my favorite line from him was come on guys let me play through after yeah i was two under par i was
00:10:35.800 having a great that is crazy he's crazy but look you have to have that mindset you know if you live
00:10:42.700 in fear just just go lock yourself in a room and go in the fetal position and and you'll be neutered
00:10:48.120 he's not going to be neutered he's not going to live in fear and you know you got to put your trust in
00:10:53.480 other people obviously secret service is one of those groups and that's why we're fighting so hard
00:10:57.940 to get reforms it's at the secret service because they they have a mission one single mission not
00:11:02.800 diversity or wokeness it's to protect presidents former presidents vice president and they were
00:11:08.480 failing at that and we we are pushing hard to get them to refocus to increase the security we finally
00:11:14.320 got that uh addressed to to increase the level of security president trump has because they were not
00:11:20.080 uh giving him that opportunity and that that led to some of these problems but um you know at the
00:11:26.240 end of the day you just got to say i i'm still going to go to the rallies i'm still this is who i am
00:11:30.300 and that's who he is you know the majority of americans think that there will be another assassination
00:11:36.000 attempt before the election which is really a sad commentary do you believe do you believe that
00:11:44.120 this really was simply just a series of unbelievable mistakes uh or is there any room for
00:11:55.340 maybe some of these decisions were were conscious not i'm not saying that they set it up but
00:12:02.840 just let it slide a little bit like i'm not a big believer in coincidences you know you you live you
00:12:09.780 live long enough you see things that you know not everything adds up but but if you if you connect
00:12:15.200 the dots you know you realize okay wait there's something else going on here i i really do think
00:12:20.560 that you know when you look there there are people who and this is why i'm really really vocal about
00:12:25.600 the language you know when kamal is saying not just hey i don't like his tax plan i don't like this
00:12:30.960 or that it's he's a threat to democracy he's he's like hitler he's this or that that's telling
00:12:36.840 people and there's there are you know unhinged people out there unfortunately and they hear that
00:12:41.400 as like a call to action and that's what was going on i mean the second attempted assassin flat out used
00:12:47.980 her exact language about threat to democracy in his mission to go try to kill the president you know
00:12:54.920 and so they've got to stop doing this it's not hey we all need to dial it down no there's one side
00:13:00.760 that's saying very specific things that's being taken as as literally calls to action to go try to
00:13:06.620 assassinate the president that's what they have to stop because you know whether it's truly
00:13:11.820 coordinated in a broad scale or not it doesn't matter if somebody's taking what you're saying
00:13:16.280 as okay i need to go take action in my own hands and try to kill somebody you've got to stop saying
00:13:22.280 that at some point you got to look in the mirror and go my words are causing somebody else to want to
00:13:26.540 kill somebody and and if you think oh i can just say whatever i want you know there's free speech
00:13:31.940 and then there's you know yelling fire in the theater i mean there's a line and uh and and now
00:13:36.700 you've seen where they've crossed it and they've seen it they need to stop doing it so i had a uh a
00:13:43.000 brush not nearly like yours or or donald trump's uh but a brush similar to the one that he had on the
00:13:49.120 uh golf course um and i know that freaked me out immediately i thought what am i willing to die
00:13:56.760 for what what it changed my language you know it changed i i was not going to die for things i didn't
00:14:04.980 absolutely believe did that go through you as well it was it was more a shift in focus like what is
00:14:14.320 really important in life you know what what are you doing all of this for you know we all know you
00:14:19.080 know especially you get into politics you run campaigns and you say you know i'm going to fight
00:14:23.560 for this or that i mean you know i have strong beliefs i go to washington and you find out quickly
00:14:28.760 not everybody believes in everything exactly like you do so you need to then start putting coalitions
00:14:33.980 together you know finding people that maybe believe in 80 percent of what you believe in because
00:14:38.760 you're not going to get it done on your own yet you yet you still want to advance your cause and i
00:14:42.780 still want to advance the things i believe in but i also know what was most important and that's my
00:14:47.160 family you know i wanted to see my family that was first thing that came to my mind when i was
00:14:51.540 laid out and not sure if i was going to make it through the day you know it wasn't gee whiz what's
00:14:57.080 my next title going to be or what's my you know you know the next bill going to be you're not thinking
00:15:03.140 about any of that you know we all are going to walk away from these jobs and what are you going to look
00:15:07.340 back on what's the thing you want correct well first of all you you better want to walk back home to
00:15:11.820 the family you started with and have your integrity intact and then you can start thinking
00:15:16.840 about you know wow i was able to move the needle on this i was able to advance what i believe in
00:15:22.080 you know 20 30 more yards on that and and hopefully you can say you did that there are some people
00:15:27.660 that won't even be able to look back because they spent all their time you know just talking and trying
00:15:32.740 to get attention and they never advanced their own causes and you don't want to waste your time in
00:15:37.780 life and so you do realize time is important life is important make every minute count
00:15:42.680 steve scalise uh from louisiana the house majority leader thank you so much for coming on with me
00:15:49.220 steve i appreciate it god bless you always a pleasure glenn and god bless you too thank you
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00:17:11.680 it's lear capital rob rob schneider is with us hi rob hey glenn good to be back man yeah a while
00:17:21.020 how are you very good i've been watching your clips on uh i don't even know if it's x or or
00:17:26.580 wherever but i've been seeing your clips come up very funny stuff very funny thank you wherever i'm
00:17:31.100 allowed to to pop up you know it's funny you mentioned about bomb making anything i was thinking
00:17:35.800 how is it that the democrats seem to get away with like madonna saying i've often thought about
00:17:41.900 bombing the white and that nothing happens the secret service doesn't visit you know johnny depp can say
00:17:47.380 you know who is the last actor who assassinated a president like what is that i mean how is that
00:17:53.400 not like on a list somewhere yeah how did they get away with that it's just because it's not an equal
00:17:58.520 it's not a uh it's it is definitely a two-tiered system and one tier gets away with everything
00:18:03.660 so how do you feel about when you're traveling the country how do you feel about how things are shaping up
00:18:08.780 do you think people are waking up fast enough to turn the tide this election or
00:18:14.140 i think so i think what you have i think you have like uh that stanley milgram study you know
00:18:20.780 1961 yale study where he kind of which we kind of reinforced in 19 well during the um the covid
00:18:28.980 tyranny which basically you know the study stanley milgram he did this thing where he had um
00:18:33.820 people in white coats telling uh seeing somebody in another room with these pushing these buttons
00:18:39.520 that and the guy was in the other room was an actor pretending to get these electric shocks they
00:18:44.280 would push the electric shock and keep pushing the button until the point of death if a person of
00:18:48.900 authority figure told them and the the real truth of that is 65 percent of people will go along with
00:18:54.280 authority no matter what so it kind of broke down to me uh during during the covid uh tyranny and lies
00:19:01.460 uh was that a third are can get fanatical and will go along with whatever the government says
00:19:07.700 and a third will just go along because it's easier and they don't necessarily believe it
00:19:12.880 right or they're not saying and then a third and luckily a third in america said no to it and so
00:19:19.300 do you know why rob have you ever thought why why are you awake why am i awake why what what is it
00:19:25.840 about us that just says no i'm not going down that road i think i think when you get attacked and you
00:19:33.840 survive something rational and logic for using your brain and then you see you see people who are you
00:19:43.580 know the word that i think really makes sense is bad faith actors because you have somebody who who
00:19:50.780 their their faith it's a knowing lie and it's evil and and then but what happens is in our society
00:19:59.140 and i think it's become more and more prevalent now i guess the arising evil that we you know you
00:20:06.120 and i've talked about is that there's a higher prevalence for that um this this evil that is
00:20:14.300 rising and um i think people do wake up to it and i think people are appalled by it and i think once
00:20:20.840 they try once they try to destroy you and you survive you get emboldened and and that's really what i felt
00:20:28.340 like and and i felt like the same thing when you were attacked you know and and how dare you try to
00:20:33.460 start your own media company how dare you try to you know to follow your faith right and to love your
00:20:39.360 country so i i think that happens but and and i also feel like you know my parents you know raised me
00:20:45.900 my my mother was a war survivor in the philippines who came from nothing and my father you know i remember
00:20:53.040 my father you know telling me stories about uh you know the you can't trust the government completely
00:20:58.560 because um they don't have your best interests in mind and that kind of stuck with me and i didn't
00:21:04.660 want to believe it but i think we have come to the point now where i think it's hitting an apex where
00:21:10.040 we need more people to stand up but the good is that uh a third is all we need uh and you know that's
00:21:18.160 what we had during covid a third of the people said f you to the covid tyranny and you know during
00:21:25.040 the the revolution you know the during the great american revolution unlike the french revolution
00:21:30.640 which was bloody and awful people cutting off heads our revolution we still kept property rights
00:21:36.900 and we kept the rule of law and so um and it was a a great revolution something to be proud of it
00:21:44.800 was based on under god and had principles um and basically a third of the colonists were uh loyalist
00:21:52.340 to the to the crown to england and the greatest power in the world at the time a third were ambivalent
00:21:59.480 and a third were you know for getting behind the uh the the revolution and we won that war yeah and i
00:22:07.360 think it was only about 15 or 20 percent that was actually die hard that was like we are not going back
00:22:14.640 uh to the king so it doesn't yeah it doesn't take that much when we won the war it was at 30 percent
00:22:22.200 yeah and so at that 30 percent is roughly what we have right now so i'm buoyant about it and i do
00:22:29.380 think when i travel around the country i mean the problem is you know people come up to me say thank
00:22:34.440 you for speaking your mind i can't go anywhere without it and that's the title of my book you know
00:22:38.360 my you know rob schneider's uh you can do it speak your mind america because we got to get back
00:22:44.540 to that i mean that and that when people come up to me the problem is people aren't hearing the
00:22:48.820 truth because we have and that's why thankfully you know your program is so important because we have
00:22:54.740 to break the heck of money of this um illiberal because it's not liberal it is illiberal uh media
00:23:01.840 which is 90 90 plus of what the media out there and they don't want you to have that they don't
00:23:07.080 even want glenn back they don't want you to have yours so so it is dictatorial and it is
00:23:12.380 we have to break that and and people are are waking up to it and and they're coming around
00:23:18.320 i believe it so wanda sykes was out yesterday and she said you know they're going to put us if
00:23:22.660 if trump wins they're going to put comedians like me in jail which is just ridiculous um uh and and
00:23:28.900 yet i was talking to uh roseanne barr yesterday and i think you would echo this i said you know
00:23:34.640 comedy was almost dead they almost killed it i said but it's coming coming back and she cut me off
00:23:40.740 and said with a vengeance it's coming back she said and the best comedy is conservative comedy
00:23:46.440 right now without a doubt you know and and the you know the democrats i'd love to hear like um oprah
00:23:52.220 and the governor pritzker talking these billionaires complaining about you know middle people and and
00:23:58.720 and uh how what the problems are no this is a land of opportunity it's not a guaranteed land of
00:24:06.300 success it wasn't to be um a perfect system it was you know uh it was supposed to be an you know a
00:24:14.000 better union it was supposed to be have an opportunity and so you know for them complaining
00:24:19.020 it's funny because you know again the media is 95 percent in their camp yeah what are they complaining
00:24:26.300 about look at the wealth in america now the republican party has become the party of the people
00:24:32.100 that can be percent of the wealth in america is in the hands of the democrats and what are they
00:24:37.060 complaining about i love they complaining about we're not going back well they've been the ones
00:24:40.900 in control yeah we we are going to go back we're going to go back to where people know which
00:24:47.000 bathrooms to use i'm sorry that you don't democratic party but we're going to go back to a country that
00:24:53.020 doesn't allow 14 year olds here we have 14 year old girls a lot of these are artistic autistic girls
00:24:58.800 we need to get america healthy again that's another point but the they're not allowed to drive
00:25:04.100 get a tattoo to vote to get a gun because they're not mature enough to make decisions and yet you know
00:25:11.520 the evil medical establishment is allowing them to make these life-altering choices and in europe and
00:25:18.160 many countries are already stopping this this mutilation nonsense the surgical conversions of young
00:25:24.180 girls mostly and they're outlawing it and changing it the cast report in england if anybody wants to
00:25:29.280 look to that has changed everything it just shows that this has all been based on all lies and it's
00:25:35.320 amazing to me that america is so far behind that we are still pushing while europe is running from this
00:25:43.360 absolutely because it is an is absolutely evil and i just tell this to people this this really helps
00:25:50.400 get through to people i say you can't even rent a car in america until you're 25 you know what does
00:25:58.360 hurts rent the car avis and enterprise know that the medical establishment and the liberal
00:26:03.760 intelligence seems to be so ignorant about right but they're but they're full of this chronic kind of
00:26:08.640 crap but you know you it's racist to ask for somebody's identification somehow or another because i guess
00:26:14.320 blacks can't figure that out um but i guess but i guess bolivia is all racist then yeah you have to
00:26:20.300 show your id to vote there well they also wanted a vaccine id they wanted to make sure everybody had
00:26:26.340 an id of vaccination and everybody could figure that one out thank god yeah i mean thank god we did but
00:26:33.160 they're not done i mean the problem is glenn is that i just think the first it was the first it was
00:26:39.400 just the first volley the first sobo it was the first launch and it was just the first quarter it was
00:26:45.920 like the first inning of this uh potential tyranny and i think that the global elites uh learn their
00:26:52.680 learn their lessons what didn't work they learned that they couldn't control the glenn vex they couldn't
00:26:58.040 control all the podcasts and that they're going to regroup and figure it out and do better next time
00:27:03.560 so but we need to arm ourselves and i will say and i say this to everybody and it seems to get through
00:27:08.280 to people even even the on the fence liberals and i tell this to people i say there are no real
00:27:14.500 conservatives anymore in america what we have is liberals that aren't crazy liberals that aren't
00:27:20.020 lost their minds it's true we all want you know not judge people by the color of their skin we all
00:27:25.080 want people to express and be able to to live their life and freedom in this country and and that is the
00:27:31.720 traditional liberal values that have been manipulated again by bad faith actors and we need to move forward
00:27:38.600 as as a country but that means moving back into our traditional values and i tell this to people and
00:27:43.720 let's get through to people we need the people on the fence we need the hundred thousand voters in
00:27:48.440 arizona i know didn't vote and if we're republican registered people out vote we need to get people
00:27:53.520 to go and do this and it's simply this there will be no marines that will that are going to land on the
00:27:59.080 beaches to save america there will be no food drop in america while we're still while this administration
00:28:05.360 is still allowing trying to buy our our farm farmland there will be no marshall plan there will be no
00:28:13.840 financial uh aid that will come to the united states while we're continuing to print and give another
00:28:19.760 800 million dollars to that criminal zelensky in ukraine there will be we are our marines we are our farmland
00:28:28.440 we are you know that that's why you know kamala harris would love to disarm us because that's all we
00:28:35.520 got you're listening to the best of the glenbeck program
00:28:39.100 so for people who think maybe bad guys don't ever pay for their crimes
00:28:49.120 good guys never win you remember the irs whistleblowers that blew the whistle on hunter biden's
00:28:57.620 tax crimes these are the guys who said uh wait there's something going on we were told not to
00:29:04.140 look into it they slow walked it etc etc well they were smeared and really destroyed um and uh one of
00:29:13.180 the guys is is is pretty amazing uh he's um he's known throughout the world this is an irs agent
00:29:22.020 known throughout the world uh for his work on global tax enforcement he was selected to create
00:29:27.500 a new international organization called the joint chiefs of global tax enforcement
00:29:31.600 he's a supervisory special agent of the international tax and financial crimes group
00:29:37.680 where he leads 12 elite special agents who are subject matter experts in complex international tax and
00:29:45.180 other related financial crimes the guy has uh i mean he started his career as a americorps volunteer
00:29:52.520 then he went to work for the defense department and intel and then he joined the irs and criminal
00:29:58.100 investigations he's out to get the bad guys um he joins us now uh welcome gary uh uh shapley how are
00:30:07.660 you very good thanks for having me glenn i appreciate it oh yeah um thank you for your courage for
00:30:14.100 speaking out thank you for doing the right thing i also want to bring in uh tristan levitt tristan is a
00:30:20.000 guy who uh worked with uh chuck grassley trying to help all of the whistleblowers um he helped
00:30:27.380 expose operation fast and furious and and a lot of different things um and is really um strong on
00:30:36.900 protecting the whistleblowers they are so important tristan welcome thank you so much glenn so where do
00:30:43.700 we start uh gary because you are now suing hunter biden and you're suing him for what 20 million
00:30:50.520 dollars yeah to be clear we're we're the alleged uh defamation is against uh abby lowell the attorney
00:31:00.120 for hunter biden and uh yeah the uh the amount is uh 10 million uh for me and also uh joe ziegler
00:31:07.480 for a total of 20 million yes so what do you claim they did so the complaint alleges that that mr
00:31:16.460 lull defamed us and and it was part of a overall smear campaign to uh to attack both uh joe ziegler
00:31:25.480 and i for coming forward following the law going to congress and disclosing the preferential treatment
00:31:31.800 um that his client was receiving by the department of justice and you know our disclosures weren't
00:31:39.420 weren't even though hunter biden was it was the topic our disclosures were against the malfeasance
00:31:46.380 at department of justice um fbi and and irs um so it's really interesting that it was this third
00:31:53.940 party that came in and became the uh you know as a legend our complaint the uh the main defamer and
00:32:00.740 smear of both joe ziegler and i so tristan that is not uncommon though is it i mean you're a
00:32:07.940 whistleblower they attack whistleblowers now like there's no tomorrow yeah that's absolutely right i
00:32:14.700 testified yesterday in front of the or maybe i guess two days ago uh in front of the weaponization
00:32:18.820 committee and and there are three of our fbi clients that have been there in the past one was
00:32:22.980 with me again and it's very very common for whistleblowers to be you know lied about and defamed
00:32:27.880 and and so that's part of why we really want to create consequences for that we we started
00:32:31.700 you know we are we are supporting we are funding this lawsuit um that uh gary and joe are bringing
00:32:37.060 against abby lowell our organization of power oversight that i'm the president of and we want
00:32:41.440 to you know if this is a way to hold people accountable we want to do it in other cases because
00:32:44.860 we just think that there's never any consequences for people just lying with impunity they just get
00:32:49.920 away with it and so we we want to fight back and that's not something that that you see happen a lot
00:32:54.280 so that's why we're trying to raise money from the public um you know we have this this uh website
00:32:59.420 defend whistleblowers.com to build up this fund precisely for suits like this where gary and joe
00:33:04.660 were just trying to do the right thing and you know they went to congress to what was right but again
00:33:08.900 as so often happens they were lied about but in in their case it can have real consequences for their
00:33:13.120 careers i will tell you i saw i saw the one of the whistleblowers um marcus allen uh with the fbi that guy
00:33:22.860 seemed like he was dirt strong uh in you know standing up for the right thing but he looks like
00:33:30.100 he had been dragged through and just just punched repeatedly in the gut it was it was amazing to
00:33:38.660 watch him these whistleblowers are really truly the best of america yeah i sat right next to him as he
00:33:45.580 as he gave that statement the other day as i testified there also and he he is unlike some of the other
00:33:51.280 whistleblowers that testified with us a year and some change ago he's not been on social media
00:33:54.820 he's just been holding it in so that we could get his pay reinstated and get his security clearance
00:33:59.860 back and now that he finally is through all of that this was his real you know this was the first
00:34:04.060 time people saw just what everything he's been through it's horrible so what are the odds of i mean
00:34:10.680 what are you fighting against they'll they're going to fight you with everything they have and
00:34:14.400 lots of money law firms do not want this one to win
00:34:17.960 yeah that's that's absolutely right so yeah the the real thing that you know gary and joe gary gary
00:34:25.860 can share this right but i mean they're they're not suing for the money in any way right i mean yes
00:34:29.980 it's a 20 million dollar defamation suit but the the point of this is that they you know that as a
00:34:35.640 legend of the complaint it's not right for someone like abby lull who's well known well um you know
00:34:41.500 identified as a really big name a really big litigator he represented you know jared and
00:34:46.560 ivanka trump even but for him to go if he goes on tv and says these guys broke the law by sharing
00:34:51.580 hunter biden's tax information with congress lots of people believe it and even mitch langberg the
00:34:56.020 defamation attorney who's representing you know our defamation expert on our legal team um who who is
00:35:02.480 one of the foremost experts in the country you know without having a background he said my general
00:35:06.500 impression was these guys had broken the law until he studied this case and read what we shared and he
00:35:10.620 said wow they have they you know they haven't been treated fairly here and so you know we want to we
00:35:15.000 want to educate the public and set this right so that people know these guys did you know not only
00:35:19.120 the right thing but they did it in the right way so gary did you did you at all have conversations
00:35:24.460 amongst yourself of should we do this you know it's going to happen to us did you have that conversation
00:35:30.820 well i mean overall right people say why'd you come forward and it really wasn't a choice
00:35:37.500 um for me um just my conscience wouldn't allow me to sit there knowing what i knowing what i knew and
00:35:43.840 uh seeing what was going to happen in this case um so i mean of course we talked about the the risks
00:35:50.080 but at the same time um you know fortunately uh for the american people unfortunately for me personally
00:35:56.500 um you know the the risk were real and and many of them are coming to fruition through retaliation
00:36:02.080 by my employer irs and and the department of justice against me so i went in with my eyes wide
00:36:08.100 open and you know i have no regrets i i feel like we've been vindicated by the uh i mean you went from
00:36:13.960 charges that weren't even going to be charged that even before the the generous plea deal fell apart
00:36:20.980 where he was going to have to plead guilty of two misdemeanors you know there were there were they
00:36:25.500 were going to give him a deferred prosecution agreement and when we were coming forward uh you know doj
00:36:31.420 doj and and david weiss knew they were coming forward he said oh no no that's not going to work
00:36:36.740 out so we're going to have to make him plead guilty then of course the judge had the the amicus brief
00:36:42.520 from congress where uh they included our testimony that they voted out and made public and uh you know
00:36:49.240 that information made it pretty clear that that uh that under biden was receiving that preferential
00:36:54.540 treatment once again it's the department of justice and irs here that is the one that engaged in
00:37:01.060 and and the conduct in which we blew the whistle again so um you know i have no regrets and and i
00:37:07.680 hope the american people have confidence in in the irs and of government employees because of what joe and
00:37:12.960 i did here's what i would like you to do if you are um if you have five dollars uh there is nothing
00:37:21.520 better than than uh cleaning out this rat's nest of liars and thieves in our justice department in
00:37:31.480 really in all throughout uh the government they have to be taught a lesson and unless we do it from
00:37:38.660 the outside the inside's never going to punish itself um and i would urge you to go to empower
00:37:45.340 e-m-p-o-w-r dot u-s uh and if you can make a donation this thing's going to cost a lot of money
00:37:54.440 um but we have to have the best lawyers on it we have to have the the the strongest case possible
00:38:00.120 otherwise this continues over and over and over again and good people are destroyed so please go
00:38:06.220 to empower e-m-p-o-w-r no e there dot u-s and uh and give if you can thank you so much guys i appreciate
00:38:15.500 it thank you glenn you bet appreciate it you bet bye-bye um let me just play this whistleblower um
00:38:22.240 so this guy is the guy that that uh tristan was just talking about that he sat next to i don't know
00:38:28.140 if you saw this but he's an fbi agent who was a whistleblower life destroyed hasn't said anything
00:38:34.800 publicly until the other day and listen to what he said it's cut three i considered the hearing
00:38:42.560 today my last act of service as a public servant for the united states of america uh and i'll give
00:38:48.960 you my professional opinion i was an intel professional for our country for many years
00:38:55.400 and i would give recommendations and i'd also look at indications and warnings so i would offer this to
00:39:01.340 american people as my warning to them since this is a warning to the american people i say
00:39:07.260 i personally have no confidence that the fbi will rein in its own conduct
00:39:12.260 i've been persecuted along with garrett steve and kyle and countless other whistleblowers
00:39:18.540 it is my opinion that the bureau used reprisal and fear to control the workforce
00:39:24.740 it has been a seemingly effective tactic i personally believe that there are no current
00:39:31.600 effective checks and balances against them conducting lawless action with any type of
00:39:36.420 correction in a legitimate time frame i welcome the work of the ig but i think
00:39:42.100 any type of lawless action there's no legitimate time frame to rein them back in
00:39:47.040 their ability to over classify information can allow them to stonewall forever
00:39:51.580 to the american people you have a duty as a citizen to vote and i strongly urge you to do so
00:39:57.720 it's how you participate in the american experience i know people have doubts about election integrity but
00:40:04.000 you must vote it is your claim state your claim and don't forfeit it willingly have your voice heard
00:40:11.680 my other recommendations are in the natural order first vote the second is the second amendment arm
00:40:19.260 yourself and know how to defend yourself make three to four friends in your neighborhood and promise to
00:40:24.840 come to each other's mutual aid in times of harm hardship and during the great depression people
00:40:30.360 stocked up a pantry so i think that's a good practice especially in our economic times and make
00:40:35.680 sure you have three to four months of food as a person of faith i'd say pray the rosary go to the first
00:40:41.400 friday devotions that's for everybody all my brothers and sisters of all faiths and i know i'm catholic
00:40:46.680 and read the gospel of our lord and savior jesus christ and live it every day and that's all i have
00:40:52.740 to say thank you for the time you hear how his voice is shaking yeah this is how do people dismiss
00:40:59.680 that warning that that is i mean we are living in unprecedented times and i tweeted that out the
00:41:10.360 other day i should retweet it now um these guys are so brave and you can tell they are they're not
00:41:19.600 playing politics listen to that warning and share it with your friends
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