The Glenn Beck Program - Ep 33 ｜ Phil Robertson ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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00:00:57.420 By his own omission, my guest today is one of the most unlikely people on the planet to end up

00:01:10.900 with the kind of fame and platform he now has. If you met him 45 years ago, this self-described

00:01:16.280 river rat from Louisiana would have been almost unrecognizable. He was hard drinking. He was hard

00:01:22.400 partying, self-destructive. He was a mess of a man. A radical conversion experience altered the current

00:01:29.640 of his life and sent him down a more virtuous, though not really less adventurous path. He started

00:01:36.860 his business of duck calls in a living room. Slowly over the next 30 years, that family business grew

00:01:43.260 into the most successful hunting brand in the world. He's now a New York Times bestselling author,

00:01:48.380 host of his own Blaze TV series, and he's still more comfortable, I think, roaming the woods in

00:01:54.200 Louisiana. He was in our studio that everybody always raves about, how beautiful, how comfortable

00:01:59.380 it is. And he said, how can you work here? I don't, it's like the walls are closing in. I invited him

00:02:04.760 in to our 19,000 square foot studio where the walls were closing in. You might think you know him from his

00:02:12.760 role in his TV series, but that was him, but still a Hollywood version, if you will. They were

00:02:21.980 commercials. Try this one, an hour and a half, the heart and soul of the original Duck Commander.

00:02:42.760 First of all, I just want to thank you for, you know, trimming the beard and cleaning up and

00:02:58.140 running a comb through your hair for this. I wore my finest clothes that I own. You know, Glenn,

00:03:05.280 I never got around to purchasing a suit. Never, you've never had a suit on? Never owned one. And

00:03:13.280 someone said, well, well, why? And I thought, you know, I didn't, I didn't buy a watch either. I've

00:03:21.860 never purchased a watch, like a timepiece. You don't have a, we don't have a watch. Or a ring, no?

00:03:27.560 Really? And someone says, so, but so how do you tell time? I'm like, I use phrases like right now,

00:03:34.360 I would say just after dinner. Right. You and I are talking. Right. Then there'll be about sundown.

00:03:42.500 Sunset. Right. Then it'll be nighttime. Right. On up in the evening. Then it'll be the dead of night.

00:03:51.100 Then there'll be just before daylight, sun up, mid-morning. We say dinner in the south. That means

00:03:57.360 dinner time around 12 o'clock. Early evening. Then we're back where we started. It makes

00:04:04.280 life a little easier because it's not. Yeah. Five after three. That's right. So that's

00:04:12.680 just a, so I never saw any need for a suit. I said, well, if I have a need one, I'll get

00:04:18.620 one. Yeah. Right. So far I'm 72. You're pretty good. Haven't needed one yet. Yeah. So I'll just

00:04:27.220 be real honest with you. I am. I'm a Yankee. I grew up in Seattle. I don't know if that's

00:04:32.920 considered real Yankee territory. But I remember the first time I drove through the deep south,

00:04:38.520 uh, I had Maryland plates on my car and I understood what a Yankee was quickly. This was 1.00

00:04:45.260 back in the eighties. Um, and quite honestly, when I think of people from Louisiana, I think of people

00:04:52.780 like you eating people like me. Have you ever eaten a Yankee? Uh, no, no. Uh, in the redneck 0.99

00:05:04.820 world, uh, they, they come up with some pretty good, pretty good schemes, but overall I would

00:05:13.640 say they're no more sinful than the rest of humanity. But, uh, but they are some doozies down

00:05:20.380 in there. Yeah. You know, you, you led, um, knowing I'm going to talk to you. I know we're

00:05:28.000 going to talk about God, but, and, and, and I think there's only one other person that I've

00:05:33.480 ever interviewed that I, it's like that. And that's a Billy Graham or anyone in the Graham

00:05:39.000 family. I know he's going to, he's going to talk about God. Um, you are the least likely

00:05:46.340 knowing your history to talk about God. Yeah. Well, if someone had told me now, my sister

00:05:57.780 told the guy I owned a beer joint at the time, leasing a beer joint in South Arkansas, you

00:06:06.800 had blacks in the back, whites in the front, the rednecks, and I was in the middle with a 0.95

00:06:13.580 pistol controlling the beer joint. So you had the jive going on in the back and in 0.78

00:06:20.980 the front. My sister told the preacher said, we have to go see my brother. And he

00:06:28.580 said, well, where is he? I said, well, he's up, he owns a beer joint up in South

00:06:33.440 Arkansas. The preacher was like, yeah. So she said, if you convert him, he'll bring

00:06:43.200 thousands to the Lord. I didn't know that she told him that, but she just told him.

00:06:50.160 And the preacher says, really? Is that what you think? And she said, I know it to be

00:06:54.700 true. If you convert him, he'll bring thousands. So he comes up, I'm about half

00:07:00.620 drunk. I run him off and his parting words after the first meeting was, I don't think

00:07:07.260 he's ready yet to, to hear what I have to say. A year goes by. That's when I ran my

00:07:13.500 woman off and the kids and everybody else. And Ms. Kay says, why don't you sit down with

00:07:18.880 that guy that came to see you at the beer joint? He was brave enough to do that. So

00:07:22.760 I sat down with him. He ported me to Jesus for the first time in my life. I investigated

00:07:28.480 Jesus, the son of God. I literally investigated him. And the more I investigated him, I didn't

00:07:36.200 even know what the gospel was. Jesus coming down in flesh, dying for my sins, being buried

00:07:42.700 and raised from the dead, stay in 40 days to convince him he was alive. Then to return

00:07:49.000 where he's there 24 seven interceding for us. The grace of God. So I never dreamed that life

00:07:57.400 peace of mind on the earth and immortality was even on the table. It just never occurred

00:08:05.100 to me till I was 28. I said, good night. We're discussing immortality here. I said, that's

00:08:12.140 big for the first time. So when I went in, I literally went all in. I said, I have been

00:08:23.440 running with the devil and I'm 28 years old. I'm looking at my track record and it is pathetic. 0.99

00:08:32.640 So I thought, how about let's just go wide open for God here. So that basically was the 0.95

00:08:42.220 motivation for me to turn a hard right and go the opposite direction I'd been going in.

00:08:50.140 But if you'd have told me I would, that would happen to me and I would be out hollering about 0.94

00:08:54.860 Jesus for 40, the last 44 years, I would have said, are you crazy? My sister was correct. 0.61

00:09:03.540 I have brought thousands to the Lord. She knew, I didn't even know she knew that. So I guess

00:09:11.060 she's a little bit of a prophetess herself. 0.99

00:09:13.040 So let's, let's go back because I've, um, alcoholic, recovering, alcoholic or not?

00:09:21.220 Hard to say about things like alcoholic. Uh, the Bible just says drunkard.

00:09:27.660 Okay. Drunkard?

00:09:29.360 Drunkard.

00:09:29.980 Okay. Um, uh,

00:09:33.140 alcoholic is a disease. Drunkard is sin. You get my point?

00:09:40.260 Yeah. I just stick with what is sin. Yeah. The list are there. You read the list. They're not

00:09:47.220 going to change. Right. The sins have never changed from cover to cover. Same sins. The

00:09:54.880 savior shows up, same savior. It's, it's, it's just like this. Right. Over and over and over the

00:10:01.540 empires come and go. Right. It's amazing. And we'll get into this later, but it's amazing to

00:10:06.720 me. I've always read the Bible and went, how are these people so stupid? Then they see 20 pages 1.00

00:10:11.120 before this, this is what's happening. Now they're just repeating it and we're doing it right now. We

00:10:15.860 are those stupid people. Look in defense of God, simple things. I'm a C plus man. I do have a master's 1.00

00:10:26.140 degree. I'm no Dumbo. I mean, I sat through and I listened to the, my professors, by the way,

00:10:31.960 not one kind word about God, my entire college career, not one kind word about God, never even

00:10:47.840 mentioned, but in defense of there is no God, God is dead. You and I seated right here, right

00:10:59.260 now. You and I are traveling on planet earth and planet earth is going at 66,700 miles per

00:11:12.000 hour. Beck, I don't even have a sensation of moving. All the cosmologists and scientists

00:11:23.460 agree as it's making its trip around the sun at 66,700 miles an hour, it will travel with

00:11:31.520 us on it. We're taking a trip. We're going to travel in one year. If you had a starting

00:11:38.120 point, when you get back around to your starting point, you will have traveled 584 million miles.

00:11:46.640 It's spinning like a top at 1,000 miles an hour as it's going 66,000 miles an hour. It's going,

00:11:57.460 you see the sun half the time and it gets dark half the time. Every 24 hours, it makes a complete

00:12:03.840 revolution. Now I'm just a C plus man. It's angled back at 23 and a half degrees. Therefore you see

00:12:16.620 four seasons on your trip, spring, summer, fall, winter without that angle. Nope. So I'm like,

00:12:27.440 I said, the mind that just did that, that just put that together. Here's Mercury and Venus on our left.

00:12:39.420 Mercury is closer than us to the sun. So much so that it's 850 degrees there today. You're like,

00:12:50.240 that knocks out life there. Well, there's Venus sitting right beside us on our left. It's about

00:12:55.460 800 and something degrees. No life there. There's us just right. I mean, you better not be any closer.

00:13:05.360 You better not be any further. You said life won't be any life. That 23 and a half degrees got to be

00:13:13.440 that way. Got to have the right size moon there. Gravity. You're like, so I'm not a rocket scientist,

00:13:20.040 but there's Mars over there. Oh, a little too far away. Mars would be 200 below at night. It's about 70 in the

00:13:28.580 daytime. You say you could be some kind of thing and might camp out there and it, but there's no life

00:13:35.520 on our left, on our right or anywhere else that we found for that to come out of some kind of boom.

00:13:43.960 Beck, give me a break. That took a mind to put that into play. Just think about it.

00:13:51.280 So I will tell you this. Um, I do not believe that you throw, uh, words up into the air, uh,

00:13:58.240 no matter how many millions and millions of billions eternity monkeys don't throw words up

00:14:03.100 in the air and have Shakespeare come out. So I agree with you on that. However, I don't know how God

00:14:08.500 creates. I'm willing to say I don't either. Yeah. The big bang, the evolution. I don't care. It

00:14:14.600 doesn't mean anything to my soul to know that answer. I'd like to know that answer. Someday I

00:14:21.380 will know that answer, but for us to fight about, uh, uh, creation to me is ridiculous because they'll

00:14:31.840 take you to the big bang. My father used to say, you can't talk about God, uh, unless you agree on

00:14:38.660 what God means. And God is so defined so many different ways. He said, if you really want to

00:14:46.040 talk about the essence of God, you have to call and be on the same page. You have to say, let's talk

00:14:50.900 first cause because that'll take you back past the big boom. What is first cause? What is the thing

00:14:59.360 that pushed? That's right. And no one knows that. No one knows that in him Colossians two there,

00:15:08.660 in him, all things hold together created through him. The cosmos was created both everything in

00:15:20.160 heaven and on earth talking about Jesus, God in flesh, visible, it says, and invisible. You're like,

00:15:29.940 now, wait a minute. That was written 2000 years ago, about 50, 60 AD. How in the world would the

00:15:36.440 apostle Paul known anything about invisible things being created invisible? They didn't

00:15:42.880 have microscopes. They didn't have spatial. They didn't have, you're like, how would he

00:15:47.040 know? It helped me. This is what I think. I don't know this, but I bet I'm right. If you

00:15:56.400 are a being who consists of, and you are in every atom, you're in every atom, if you were that kind of

00:16:11.240 being invisible, and you are in, and you controlled completely the arrangement of atoms and molecules,

00:16:24.580 heck, if you had that kind of power, we'll say omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent. You say,

00:16:31.760 omnipresent, you'd have to be in all the atoms, in all material, in paper, in wood, in plastic, in you.

00:16:38.640 You're like, if you were that kind of being, just think about it. It's done. Seconds, milliseconds.

00:16:48.140 You want coal deposits, oil deposits, diamonds, gold, done. That's why when you read the creation

00:16:56.620 story, you say, how in the world there was evening and there was morning the first day. How in the

00:17:02.040 world could you even claim some kind of being was doing that? You would have to have complete and

00:17:06.980 utter control over the atomic structure of all matter. When you spoke, you spoke. It's there.

00:17:16.480 Right.

00:17:17.000 You say, and that's the one. Think about it. How would even God know all the sins of the entire

00:17:24.700 world unless he was in the atoms that make up human beings? Every part of them. You're like,

00:17:30.940 he knows the sins of the Chinese. You say, how could you know that? That many human beings? 0.99

00:17:36.640 You're like, good night, dear. You're in the atomic structure of everything. Resurrection,

00:17:43.580 life, nothing to it. Nothing to it. Nothing to it. To him, nothing to it. When you read about these

00:17:51.180 great promises, all your sins are forgiven. I'm sending my son down to remove your sin. I'll

00:17:57.940 view you as perfect from now on because your trust is in my son. I guarantee you it's impossible for me

00:18:06.980 to lie. And I'm telling you humans, I can't lie. So I'm going to swear by myself that I'm going to

00:18:14.980 deliver you from sin and death. I'm going to give you immortality. You have hope. He said,

00:18:23.300 make that an anchor for your soul. Let that be your anchor. I will do it. I'm looking at it back.

00:18:34.980 Is there a chance that we could participate in this without God? If there is no God, we have a six

00:18:46.020 foot hole coming up and that's the end of it. I just can't go through life without a smidgen.

00:18:54.100 Somebody, I'll take my chances without Jesus. I said, dude, you don't have a chance without him.

00:19:00.820 Do you have a better story? They're like, uh, life and immortality. You got a better story based on

00:19:10.740 one person who ever lived on earth. You're counting time by him. It's 2019 years since

00:19:18.500 Jesus showed up. But what in the world do you call all the years before Jesus showed up?

00:19:24.380 You call those all the years before Jesus showed up. You're like one person out of all the people that

00:19:34.620 ever walked on planet earth and where our calendar is based on just one of them.

00:19:42.300 All I can say is he had to do something big back. It had to have been big. They're never going to

00:19:48.460 count time by me. Are you? You said, no, they're not going to count time by us. I'm like, I've never

00:19:54.700 heard of anybody like Jesus Christ, but I didn't investigate him until I was 28. 28. I said, whoa,

00:20:01.420 yeah, wait a minute here. Whoa. Now I didn't know immortality was riding on this, you know,

00:20:07.420 high in the sky. We therefore I'm so convinced of it. Now I'm 72 old age is creeping in, but because

00:20:19.180 of what's been done for me, God through Jesus, by the power of the spirit, you say, you don't worry

00:20:25.740 about physical death. God, he too shared in their humanity. Jesus, he too shared in their humanity

00:20:34.860 so that by his death, he might destroy him who holds the power of death. That is the devil. And

00:20:43.420 free those who all their lives were held in slavery by their fear of death. Man, when he took away

00:20:50.460 physical death and it's a snap, our bodies fall asleep, our souls and spirits are alive.

00:21:00.220 We're alive without our body. It's not a bad position to be in the time. Here comes Jesus.

00:21:06.780 We believe that God will bring with Jesus. First Thessalonians 4, 13, those who have fallen asleep

00:21:13.020 in him. You say, he's coming back. What's he coming after? Why return? The bodies.

00:21:20.780 We reunited with our bodies, this time a glorified one. We will have a new heavens and a new earth

00:21:28.540 and we will live forever. Immortality. Until somebody tops that story back, I'm going with it.

00:21:43.020 I haven't heard someone top it yet. Have you?

00:21:53.980 No. I mean, there's been some great stories, but this one is not just a great story. This one has

00:21:59.420 such wisdom behind it and such truth. When you read it, when you actually read it, not when you just

00:22:06.140 listen to the quotes, but when you actually read it, to me, the word of God takes on a different

00:22:12.220 meaning. It's not, it's like, I give you my word. It's not the word of God as in, oh, here's a whole

00:22:19.580 bunch of stuff he said. It's his word. I give you my word. This is true.

00:22:25.980 And that right there answers the question that I've talked to many. And they'll say,

00:22:30.860 but Phil, if God would just speak to me, if he would just say something to me, then I would know.

00:22:36.700 I said, what do you want him to do? Write you a letter? I said, look, he wrote you 66 letters here.

00:22:42.220 I said, these, this is, this is a book of texts. I said, the only thing I've seen that remotely

00:22:51.820 resembles anything decent coming out of a cell phone or computer, I said, are the texts. I said,

00:22:58.780 they even use biblical language. I said, there's a lot of text messages in here. I said, he's given

00:23:06.700 us life of immortality. You say, well, boy, this is really going to be hard. What am I supposed to do

00:23:11.580 now? He says, uh, I made it. That's a text. That's your text for today. I made the whole

00:23:17.660 thing and made you put you on it. So I want you to do two things. This is going to be really

00:23:23.180 difficult for you. And you're going to really struggle with it. Just love me. God says, and

00:23:29.340 love each other for the life of me, Beck, love God and love your neighbor. I don't see the downside.

00:23:40.620 I don't either. I'm like, come on. I woke up this morning in Dallas, Texas hotel. Got up. My man

00:23:53.260 brought me a cup of coffee. You said, Phil, let me ask you something. Have, uh, have you sinned yet

00:23:59.900 today? Uh, no, no. You say any belligerence coming out of you today? Uh, no. Uh, any fits of rage? Uh,

00:24:12.220 no. Any evil thoughts? Uh, not yet. You're like, uh, so

00:24:20.860 any cursing coming out of your mouth today, Phil? No, I'm just saying, get up and do good.

00:24:29.900 I'm like, how hard could it be? Yeah. I mean, you got life and immortality. So get up in the

00:24:37.260 morning, just be good. Love me. God says, I love your neighbor. Just go around doing good.

00:24:44.140 Seek glory, seek honor, seek immortality. I'll give you eternal life. Just do good

00:24:51.580 for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil. There's going to be

00:24:59.340 wrath and anger. There'll be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil. First for the

00:25:06.860 Jew, then for the Gentile. The age old struggle between good and evil has all been solved when 1.00

00:25:16.460 Jesus came down in flesh. Up until that time, it was keep a strict code or die. You're like,

00:25:25.900 finally, there's provision for our violations, our sins, blood, mistake-free God in a mistake-free

00:25:34.060 body. It took that kind of blood to take away our sin and the rest is history. So I feel pretty

00:25:45.020 confident. I feel very confident that the Lord Jesus will do exactly what he said he would do,

00:25:53.100 get us out alive. And all we have to do is be good for the life of me back. I've been trying it for

00:26:02.540 years. I'm getting better at it because you say you're 72 now. I'm getting better at doing good

00:26:07.340 than I was when I was 28, 30. I started out like this, zigzagging. I'm trying to get on my feet,

00:26:15.500 trying to develop my faith. By the time you get 72, you begin to understand texts like the Hebrew

00:26:22.380 writer. It says, it says, let's see, solid food is for the mature who by constant use,

00:26:33.420 others that took these scriptures have trained themselves to do just one thing, distinguish

00:26:42.860 good from evil, know the difference, shun evil, embrace good. You say, you mean to tell me it's that

00:26:50.940 simple? It's that simple. So here we are. I feel very good about it. I'm trying to get that message

00:27:00.340 into people's ears. Some don't understand it. The devil snatches away what I plant. Some say,

00:27:09.140 oh my goodness, that's it. That's it. But in the time of testing, when trouble or persecution

00:27:15.620 comes along because of the word, they quickly fall away. It's two out of two. Third one,

00:27:22.420 it's like the seed falling among the thorns. They get tangled up in the cares of this world,

00:27:28.180 the deceitfulness of wealth. And you say they don't mature. Now that's three out of three,

00:27:35.300 three down. I'm like, whoa. But those with a good and honest heart,

00:27:42.180 they receive the seed and by person fearing, produce a crop. They go out and they go out and

00:27:50.820 they go out. So one of the chapters in the book I mentioned was that autonomous Christianity,

00:27:57.060 meaning when you get Christianity and following Jesus down to a one day a week trip to a church

00:28:06.600 building, that's two hours, but there's 168 hours in a week. You're like two of them, you're going to

00:28:14.580 worship God, but the other 166 has your life. So I'm trying to get them to see and view God's mercy

00:28:24.500 offer themselves as living sacrifices. Now, look, it's not Sunday today. You and I are carrying on

00:28:31.860 this conversation in the early part of the week. You say it's two, three o'clock in the evening,

00:28:36.020 whatever time it is. You're like, so what are you and Beck doing? Oh, we're worshiping God here.

00:28:41.300 That's what we're doing. We're showing people who we are. You happen to be on, and others are

00:28:48.260 hearing this. You say, are you aware that, that what you're saying about God and is Glenn aware

00:28:54.100 that what he's saying about God is going out, going, well, sure. We are aware of it. Very aware.

00:28:59.360 And look, we get a cursing. Well, what do you know? The evil one working in people. So they're

00:29:04.740 going to curse us. Well, sure. They're going to, is trouble going to come your way because of it?

00:29:09.520 Well, of course it is. Look how they look what they did to him. I mean, and each of his followers

00:29:16.000 and each of his followers just brutalized to be like, well, good. So I'm not stunned when people

00:29:21.920 hate me. Here's a news flash for our listeners here. I love them anyway. I don't hold it against

00:29:29.360 them. I take a cursing. You say, do you get mad? No. I'm like, just think about it. And I go to the next

00:29:38.480 one. Just think about it. That's my line. Just, you don't have to holler. Just think about it.

00:29:44.960 I'm on down the road. So it doesn't bother me at all trying to help them for crying out loud.

00:29:52.080 Uh, not a lot of people can do that right now. We're kind of, you know, when you say

00:29:59.360 the two great commandments, that is the answer to everything we're looking for right now.

00:30:05.280 That's right. Just love God and love your neighbor. Yep. That's it. We don't need any fancy.

00:30:12.880 That's right. Tea parties, uh, Republicans, Democrats, presidents, nothing smoke coming out

00:30:18.880 of the floor. When you may have your meetings and try to outdo it, calm down. Right. I mean,

00:30:23.680 you get together kind of like a huddle. Okay. That's one day a week. But once you walk out that

00:30:28.800 door of the church building, yeah. Oh, that's where the action is. Correct. Correct. It's out there.

00:30:34.720 I, you know, I have a new understanding for, as things become more and more insane in our world. Yep.

00:30:41.920 Uh, I thought of the poster that, uh, that Churchill put out in the second world war,

00:30:48.000 keep calm and carry on right now. None of us are keeping calm. We're all freaking out. All we have

00:30:55.120 to do is keep calm and then do the things that you know are right. Just pay no attention to that.

00:31:02.960 Just keep calm and carry on. You're quoting some great scriptures. Look, I urge you brothers in

00:31:10.320 view of God's mercy, offer your body as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God, offer your body.

00:31:16.000 That's 24 seven, which is your spiritual worship. Don't conform any longer to the pattern of the

00:31:22.080 world. You just mentioned the pattern of the world back. It's insane. If someone had told me that we

00:31:28.160 would end up by 2020 with the mischief and the sinful, the murder, the own children, they shoot up

00:31:43.120 churches, concerts, you're like, what? Jesus said, the devil is the father of lies. Just look at the news 0.80

00:31:54.080 media and what they keep coming out of their mouth. And you're like, and the scary party is, I think they

00:32:04.960 believe the lie. You too. And it's not just, it's just the news media. It's the Jesus said,

00:32:10.720 the devil is behind the whole thing. Yeah. It's advertising. Think of the lies of to sell somebody

00:32:17.120 a product. I have to tell you, you're not complete without this. That's the biggest lie there is.

00:32:23.760 I know it. That's why I haven't gotten into the cell phone and computer business. I'm on the,

00:32:29.760 I'm on the computer, but I never look. There's different gifts. Here's worship. Love must be

00:32:35.920 sincere. 24 seven. Hey, what is evil? Cling to what's good all the time. 24 seven. Be devoted to

00:32:44.800 one another and brotherly love all the time. Honor one another above yourselves all the time. Don't be

00:32:53.840 lacking in zeal. Keep your spiritual fervor serving the Lord all the time. Be joyful in hope,

00:33:01.040 patient and affliction. My prostate acted up here about two or three weeks ago. You say,

00:33:05.920 did you go down, down on the ground? I asked the almighty to take it from me. It took about a week

00:33:12.400 or 10 days. I actually went to see a doctor for the first time in 50 years. You say patient and

00:33:18.720 affliction. The last time I've been in the hospital is when a tick bit me and gave me rabbit fever.

00:33:23.920 You say you haven't been back to a doctor since, but I went the other day because the old prostate

00:33:29.280 got to acting up. You like, was it rough? Was it rough? So look patient and affliction. I weathered it

00:33:36.160 faithful in prayer, share with God's people who are in need, practice hospitality, have them over for a

00:33:43.920 meal. Bless those who persecute you. That's why I told you, I don't, don't curse them. Bless them.

00:33:50.400 They're all right. Bless and don't curse. Rejoice with those who rejoice. Mourn with those who mourn.

00:33:57.200 Live in harmony with one another. Don't be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position,

00:34:04.000 the poor, the downtrodden, the rednecks, whatever. Don't be conceited. Don't repay

00:34:10.480 anyone evil for evil. This is worship. This is how we worship. Be careful to do what is right in the

00:34:17.120 eyes of everybody. You're like, be careful to do what is right. No matter who's looking,

00:34:24.160 do what is right. Be careful to do what's right. Heathen or not, do what's right before him. Let

00:34:31.040 him see that. If it's possible, which is amazing, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with

00:34:40.640 everyone. I live in a redneck neighborhood. You say, you try to live at peace with them. Yep.

00:34:49.840 They were stealing my fish, the rednecks, back when I was fishing to survive before the duck call 0.66

00:34:57.200 took off. I had a lot of nets in the river, hoop nets, catfish go in them, buffalo. Buffalo,

00:35:03.440 you get 30 cents a pound. Catfish, you get 70. I had all these nets out. I had floats on them.

00:35:10.000 You could see them. Everyone around there knew they were my nets.

00:35:15.280 I would notice that I'd hear an outboard while I trained myself to get it, go down there right

00:35:20.720 quick and looking through the bushes. And I'm looking over there. And every once in a while,

00:35:25.600 some of these guys would pull up on one of those floats and then start coming up with it. They're

00:35:31.440 going to steal my fish. What I did at first, I was young in the faith. I took a shotgun with buckshot

00:35:40.880 and I tore out there and I would threaten them, scare the daylights out of them. What are you 0.99

00:35:47.120 doing stealing from me? But they kept stealing. I'd run that bunch off. And three weeks later,

00:35:53.840 there's another bunch. I read this text that where I'm reading now, uh, don't take revenge.

00:36:02.880 My friends leave room for God's wrath. It's written. It's mine to avenge. I will repay,

00:36:08.720 says the Lord on the contrary. If your enemy's hungry, feed him. If he's thirsty, give him something

00:36:14.080 to drink. I said, young in the faith. I said, that won't work. These rednecks, if I'm good to them, 1.00

00:36:27.760 if I give them what they're trying to steal, you're telling me, Lord, they'll quit stealing. 0.76

00:36:33.680 I said, that won't work. But it occurred to me back. I said, how would I know? I've never tried it.

00:36:40.320 I'm just trying to spook them. And these are dangerous people anyway. Of course, you're in

00:36:46.960 the South. You eat Yankees. Yeah. So I said, well, I'm going to try that, Lord. I'm going to test you 1.00

00:36:57.520 right here on this. So the next bunch I catch, I tear out there with my motor. I have my gun just in

00:37:05.280 case my faith gets a little weak, but it's not in my hands. It's in the bottom of the boat.

00:37:11.600 I pull out there. These guys look around and they're dropping my net in the river, acting like

00:37:17.120 they were fishing. I said, guys, looks like you've had trouble catching some fish and decided to get

00:37:24.960 mine in my nets. I said, good times have come your way. I'm going to give you the fish.

00:37:33.440 And they're looking at me and the look on their faces. They looked at each other. I said, I'm going

00:37:39.040 to give you what you, I want you to have a fish fry. How many are coming? They said, well, let's see,

00:37:47.360 there was my cousin. And I said, you know, you start frying fish. People are coming out of the

00:37:51.520 woodwork. Ken folks, you haven't seen in years. I said, listen, I'm going to keep your boat right

00:37:57.200 there. I said, calm down now. I'm not going to hurt you. I said, I'm going to give you what you

00:38:02.560 would try. Let's see what you've fixed to catch. Well, I pulled the net up at a lot of fish in it.

00:38:07.600 I put them in my boat. I put the net back out. I said, bring your boat over here.

00:38:12.400 They said, no, so we're just going down. I said, come on over here. They were scared of me, but

00:38:18.320 they were thinking, wait a minute, we're stealing from him. He's given us what we were trying to

00:38:22.560 steal. He's crazy. So look, they get their boat over and I start throwing fish over in their boat. 1.00

00:38:29.360 I said, when you think you have enough for the fish fry, you can say, say so. And they told me

00:38:35.360 one time, well, I, you know, I think that'd be enough. I said, no, let me give you a few more.

00:38:40.160 So I threw them some more. I said, now you have what you wanted to steal. I'm giving you what you

00:38:45.600 were trying to steal. I said, I do this for a living. This is how I make money. I said, I would

00:38:53.200 appreciate it if you didn't steal from me. I said, now, listen, I live still on a hill that house on

00:38:58.400 that hill. Yeah. I said, the next time you want to fish fry, if you can't catch any fish,

00:39:03.120 just come see me and I'll give them to you. All the way up and down the river for years after

00:39:10.560 that, they all quit stealing from me. What I didn't know was young in the faith,

00:39:19.920 I appealed to their conscience if they had one. And I wanted them to say,

00:39:25.920 good night. The guy will give them to us. I mean, the old guy gave us the fish we was trying to

00:39:30.720 steal. Can you believe that? Well, once that goes around in the redneck circles, 0.95

00:39:34.880 they say, we shouldn't fool with that old dude. That's a good old dude.

00:39:39.600 God was right all along. I just never had, I was too weak to see it.

00:39:44.480 So I will tell you, I find, I read the scriptures and I find answers to everything,

00:39:50.080 everything that you're doing, just like you did with the fish. I find answers everywhere in it.

00:39:54.080 And it's amazing because every time I try it, it works too.

00:40:06.800 Is there a problem with people of faith in America today because they profess they believe it,

00:40:16.720 but then they don't do it. They, you know, the, the, the answer is, these are not enemies of yours.

00:40:24.080 They're enemies of mine. I, I have the right for vengeance. You don't, you, I am commanding you to

00:40:31.680 love them. Remember, we're not wrestling against flesh and blood. That's humans. That's not where the

00:40:38.800 battle is. Correct. But we're wrestling with the rulers of this age, the authorities, the evil,

00:40:47.280 the princes of darkness, the spiritual wickedness. Yeah. You say our battle is with the evil one.

00:40:53.600 That's why when I wrote that book, it says the theft of America's soul. I'm putting it on the evil

00:41:00.400 one. The humans are just caught up in it. Correct. But if you are, if they're delivered from Satan,

00:41:06.640 they're ready to go, but he's the problem. So where are all the Christians that don't want to, 0.99

00:41:15.440 um, that will say, I, you know what? I have plenty. Uh, let me give you my fish. Just don't steal from

00:41:23.480 me. They would say, and I mean this for everybody, but I'm hearing it from Christians. I'm, you know, 0.99

00:41:30.160 um, but I know everybody is this way. They would say that is weakness that will show weakness.

00:41:38.020 They're going to steal from you blind. If you do that, you can't do that. You got to show power

00:41:43.800 and you got to stand up. Yeah. Yeah. Let me show you another thing on where they would do the same

00:41:49.520 thing. Be angry, but sin not. Okay. So someone sins against you and you're angry.

00:42:00.820 You're good. Anger is a healthy emotion. However, vengeance is not. That's right. Be angry,

00:42:09.920 but don't sin. You're like, well, how could I be angry? Not sin. Well, if you lash back out verbally,

00:42:17.180 they curse you, you start cursing them and then you have a, and it escalates. So we both are cursing

00:42:23.260 each other. You know, good, you know, two neighbors, one mowing the grass, one on the other side of the

00:42:27.460 fence. And I know you're sitting there cursing each other. You're like, you can't lash back

00:42:31.240 physically. You're sinning. You have to keep your mouth shut. You don't pick up something either

00:42:36.960 and begin to beat them half to death with it or pull out your pistol and shoot them. 0.99

00:42:41.220 Be angry, but don't sin. Okay. They sin against you. You don't retaliate verbally. You don't retaliate 1.00

00:42:48.160 physically. You just walk away. However, a lot of times when you walk away, you didn't sin,

00:42:55.940 not yet, but you're bitter because they cursed you. You're like, they've still got their,

00:43:02.920 their talons on you. They're still causing you harm. They're still controlling you because you're

00:43:09.760 bitter about taking the cursing for no reason. You say, well, what's the way out of that mess?

00:43:15.740 What's the strong person to do? Just forgive them. Don't be bitter. Don't lash out verbally. Don't

00:43:25.860 lash out physically. Just forgive them and move on. You say, it looks, who's the stronger person?

00:43:33.520 The one that can't take a cursing without cursing back? That's weak. You say, pick up something because

00:43:40.020 somebody cursed and you're going to beat them half to death. You say, that's weak. You're bitter for the 0.97

00:43:44.500 next 20 years over what someone, you're like, they've controlled your life for 20 years. You're

00:43:50.640 still mad about what they did back then. You see it all the time. Or just forgive them and move on.

00:43:56.860 You say, forgive them. That's true. There's the strong person. So we just get it out of whack.

00:44:04.980 So I think, I think forgiveness is the, I think that's the first step. I think the deeper step of,

00:44:12.360 of it is profound empathy. I know I've been in situations where I've had to forgive and I could

00:44:20.080 forgive. And then I've been in situations that I've prayed a lot about that I knew I was going to

00:44:24.960 have problems with. Yep. And my whole heart saw, felt their pain. And all of a sudden, no matter what

00:44:34.680 they said to me, I could just feel how much pain they were in and it, it, it brings you to tears and

00:44:41.840 you're, and that is, that's even more when you, when you can to say, I forgive you and mean it

00:44:48.540 is hard to feel the other pain. Very difficult for human beings to get that. That's why the greatest

00:44:57.380 commands of the Bible, love God and love your neighbor. You say, in spite of the mistakes,

00:45:02.180 how many times Lord, should we forgiven seven? He said, 70 times seven, 70 times seven. They're like

00:45:11.220 70 times seven. If Glenn Beck and Phil Robertson added up every violation where they broke God's,

00:45:21.680 one of his laws, if we added them all up, you say there would be probably thousands. That's

00:45:31.180 why Jesus said, you'd be forgiven to them 70 times seven. Be ready to forgive. Look how many sins I've

00:45:39.600 forgiven of you. So if you look at it like that, you say, Whoa, what's this? Leave no debt, remain

00:45:48.760 outstanding. Let no debt remain outstanding. Pay your bills, except one debt we owe back the continuing

00:45:57.920 debt to love one another. For he who loves his fellow man. Watch how this works has

00:46:06.340 fulfilled the law with all the don't do this. Don't do that. Don't lie. Don't steal. Don't

00:46:12.520 curse. Don't you're like, how do you, how do you fulfill that? Love your neighbor. Watch the

00:46:19.260 commandments. Do not commit adultery. Do not murder. Do not steal. Do not covet. And whatever other

00:46:27.000 commandment there may be are summed up in this one rule, love your neighbor as yourself. Love

00:46:34.480 does no harm to its neighbor. You're like, I don't get up in the morning and say, I got

00:46:44.400 to make sure that I don't steal somebody's money out of their billfold. I got to make sure

00:46:49.880 that, you know, that, that I don't have any evil thoughts and I got to make sure that I'm,

00:46:54.160 you know, I don't lash out at that. Just love them. Just love them. If you love them, you're

00:47:01.840 certainly not going to shoot them. If you love them, you say, you're not going to be unkind

00:47:06.620 to them. If you love them, you're not going to mess with their woman. You love them too much.

00:47:12.040 She's, she's your sister. She's a fellow human being. You say, love would take care of every

00:47:19.300 bit of that. But boy, is that a hard lesson. It's a hard one. You have to believe in, you

00:47:25.360 have to believe in miracles. Yeah. Now we live in a culture now. It seems like they're mad

00:47:36.080 and I haven't even spoken yet. I haven't even voiced an opinion yet, but they seem angry.

00:47:45.560 They seem mad. And I'm like, I'm listening to them and they're, they're constantly ranting

00:47:53.080 and, and, and, and, and you're looking at them and you're like, so I've come to a conclusion

00:48:02.520 that if you ever get in the state of mind, Romans 128 says, because they did not think

00:48:10.420 it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God. They're not getting any knowledge of God in

00:48:18.920 the school system. They're certainly not getting any knowledge of God in the news media for the

00:48:23.840 most part. You're like, they're certainly not getting it out of government. Every once in a

00:48:28.800 while at lip service, you know, you know, God help us. But you say, it's not coming out

00:48:34.720 of Hollywood. You say, well, where would they get a consciousness of God? If, if none of the

00:48:39.660 school system, if none of them are taught that you're like, my goodness, since they don't think

00:48:47.040 it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, God gives them over to a depraved mind. You're

00:48:53.700 talking to depraved people who are mad. They're mad because they have a problem. It's sin, but they 0.98

00:49:03.840 don't know what their problem is. Their problem is that they don't know what their problem is

00:49:09.620 and it's coming out of them. And they're mad at you and you haven't even done anything yet. You're

00:49:16.440 like, get up in the morning mad, go to bed at night. Job well done. And if you take half the human race 0.76

00:49:24.640 in America, half the country, and they get there, this is, this is, this is, this is not good. We

00:49:34.340 can't carry on a decent conversation with half the country. And we're the culprits in all this,

00:49:40.580 or so they say. And I'm thinking, look, we love y'all. Calm down. But it just keeps,

00:49:49.420 they say their internet's full of it. I've never had a cell phone. So at least I don't hear it.

00:49:54.560 They had me read yesterday, six tweets that someone had written and they took it off Twitter or whatever

00:50:02.840 it is. They had me read them. And I, it was the first time I'd ever read a tweet. Really? Except

00:50:09.180 like television, Donald Trump and he tweets. Okay. But you say, have you ever had personally read one

00:50:15.060 out of, off Twitter? Not one. And I never, they, they printed these out on little cards and they

00:50:20.800 were blaming blaze TV for putting a little slot on Twitter. And they were calling them Nazis,

00:50:27.440 blaze, the blaze TV. I was a Nazi. You were a Nazi. And what else was it? It's cursing us. And I just

00:50:34.180 thought, I said, I don't know what to say when I read this. I said, there's one reason I don't have

00:50:40.200 a cell phone. I don't listen to this. I just don't listen to it. Let me, let me go back, um,

00:50:48.220 back to my original question about 47 minutes ago, which was, uh, alcoholic and, uh, and drunkard.

00:51:03.240 One is sin. One is, uh, the escape from sin. I think that the attempt to escape from sin,

00:51:12.400 um, uh, and that comes from someplace that is troubled. You know, I know I, I had to transform.

00:51:26.540 I did it at 30. You did it at 28. I had to transform. I didn't know what I knew. I didn't

00:51:31.940 know what was true. I didn't know God. I didn't. And all of the lies of my past, all the mistakes

00:51:36.920 and everything else just built up. And I was either going to explode, you know, kill myself or, 0.96

00:51:42.400 you know, die in some drunken fury or find an answer. So I started looking for it, but there

00:51:49.060 was a lot of stuff in me and in reading your, in reading your book and reading who you were before

00:51:55.160 this, you seemed like a pretty angry guy, pretty angry guy. Why mean? Because you got texts like

00:52:09.360 1 John 5, 19. We know we are the children of God. I wasn't there yet. And the whole world

00:52:17.760 is under the control of the evil one. That's one text. Another text says, the Lord's servant

00:52:27.460 must not quarrel. He must be kind to everyone, not resentful. Those who oppose him, he must gently

00:52:34.800 instruct in the hope that God will grant them repentance, leading them to a knowledge of the

00:52:40.960 truth. And they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil who's taken

00:52:49.440 them captive to do his will. That's a couple of texts right there to show you. You say,

00:52:54.860 Ephesians 2, the evil one works in people. I've got captured by, being worked in, and being

00:53:01.740 controlled by. That's pretty well a tight grip. When I was 28 and the alcohol was flowing,

00:53:10.360 I didn't know I was under the control of the evil one. I didn't know that. It was only after

00:53:18.500 I was released from that, that I look back. And by the way, this is for your own notes.

00:53:27.040 I noticed that most people I convert, they're about 27 to 31 or 32, same age. You say a couple

00:53:37.800 of years apart. Well, I've heard so many people say that. I got to looking at it carefully.

00:53:42.100 And I said, and I wondered about that. I said, why are they always around 30?

00:53:46.620 So most people around 30, around 30, I just kept coming up with all the conversions I was

00:53:51.260 looking at. But it occurred to me, by the time you get to be 30 back, you have a track record.

00:53:59.600 And it's either success or massive failure.

00:54:03.980 And look, here's the kicker. And you look back at where you had been and who you were under the

00:54:11.200 control. I didn't know I was out from under the control of the evil one till I came under the

00:54:18.200 control of God Almighty through Jesus Christ by his spirit. I'm sealed with the spirit of God,

00:54:24.820 which was that, that right there was the kicker. Because then I could look back and I said,

00:54:30.840 you know what I thought? I said, what was I thinking? I said, what was I, I can't believe I was doing

00:54:40.620 that. Once you released, I look back once I was released, then I began to think clearly,

00:54:46.860 what was I thinking? Was I that stupid? I mean, alcohol just getting drunk three or four times a 0.99

00:54:53.900 week. I'm like, I didn't even know I was under the control of the evil one until I was delivered

00:55:01.080 from him. Then it all became very clear to me. This Jesus will work. This will work. So that's when I

00:55:09.560 got a heading. And I said, I'll tell you what, Lord, you have delivered me like I didn't think

00:55:18.780 possible. So you fast forward. Oh, 44, 45 years. You say you get it now for sure. Yeah.

00:55:28.200 The first time I met you, um, doubt you remember it was up here at the speedway and, uh, uh, we were

00:55:38.220 there and I think I was with some of my Navy SEAL friends and they were doing something and you guys

00:55:44.240 were there and I walked backstage and I'm sitting next to this just wonderful woman, just wonderful

00:55:50.320 woman. No idea who she was. I don't, I just don't watch television. I just don't watch commercial

00:55:56.080 television like that, especially back then. And, uh, and she, she's just so great and so sweet. 0.94

00:56:04.220 And about halfway through our conversation, I realized that's just miss K that I know about

00:56:10.660 that I've heard so much about. Yep. Why the hell did she stay with you? 0.97

00:56:17.900 When you were like the way you grandmother told her there'll come a time when you'll have to fight 0.63

00:56:23.800 for your marriage, you'll have to fight for it. And she said, you know, mama, what do you,

00:56:29.680 what do you, what do you, what do you said? You'll have to fight for it. Just get ready for that time.

00:56:33.620 And when it happens, you fight for your marriage, hang in there. She waited me out. Miss K when I

00:56:43.000 finally came to Jesus, she said, finally, now my boys would say things like, uh, does that mean

00:56:53.880 daddy's not with the devil anymore? That's what it means. He's done with that.

00:57:00.240 So it's y'all going to get, have a lot better daddy now. And then we all took off and we looked up one

00:57:06.300 day. I've told people this before back. Yes, I ended up rich and famous and, and yes, you can do

00:57:16.060 it without a cell phone or a computer. You can pull it off. I don't know how many have pulled it off

00:57:21.960 without any use of a cell phone or computer, but I was able to pull it off. But all the money that came

00:57:29.200 away can't remove my sin. Yeah. And no matter how famous I even think I am, you say, can it raise you

00:57:38.360 from the dead field? I'm like not even close. So I have to be careful to keep everything in perspective

00:57:46.500 here. There is a God in heaven and I am here to serve him. Thank you for blessing me. I don't care

00:57:53.840 too much about the fame. It's pretty good hassle, but Lord, I'll serve you faithfully. Just help me

00:58:00.300 serve you. How, how, how did you from the evil one? How did you, um, I think you and I are enough

00:58:08.100 alike to, to, to, uh, know that once you've, once you've done it your way and failed, uh, and you're

00:58:19.900 really, truly humble and desperate enough for the help, you really have to be pretty desperate to

00:58:25.300 say, I surrender this desperation. Yeah. And I don't know, I, I feel horrible saying this,

00:58:31.420 but I've asked friends this before. I don't know if I feel bad for people who in some ways,

00:58:39.520 in some ways, uh, who haven't really needed the atonement haven't really needed that. I'm glad

00:58:49.600 I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy, but boy, there is something to be said for when you are

00:58:56.480 so desperate, it doesn't matter anymore. And you just say, I'm done. That's, that's, that puts

00:59:04.940 you in a position of, of, uh, of truly being his puppet, his, his, uh, tool that he can use. Now

00:59:16.240 he can use it any way he wants because the tool is not fighting him anymore. Yep. It's a personal

00:59:22.440 thing. It has to be a deeply personal thing between you and the almighty God in heaven. In my case,

00:59:31.820 I didn't veer to the left nor right. When I said, I am done with the past life. I'm in it. Uh, I

00:59:39.760 remember very well that it was like a giant burden being left off and lifted off me. When I came forth

00:59:46.220 from the waters of baptism, I thought, I said, starting over. Tell me, tell me the, tell me what

00:59:54.220 was going through your mind the moment before baptism and the moment after. I told the guy,

01:00:00.980 I called him up. I said, I've researched the material. I cannot get around it. I said,

01:00:07.480 uh, there's time for a change. I said, I want you to come down here and pick me up.

01:00:13.140 And I said, take me to some water. And I said, do not wreck the vehicle before we get there.

01:00:21.920 He said, I'll drive carefully. I said, drive slow. And I said, get me down there. And I'm, I'm

01:00:28.380 fixing it. I'm starting over right here. I said, I'm, it's a, it's a new deal for me. But I said,

01:00:34.080 I'm starting over here and now I never wavered off that. I did. It did take me a while to get on my

01:00:44.360 feet. I hid out for about a year, unless the telephone number, when my buddies couldn't get

01:00:49.160 touch with me, I'll put in the book, they'll wait this buddy of mine. He watched me for 12 years,

01:00:56.120 came back the first year when they finally tracked me down, wanted me to go up the road with them,

01:01:01.920 pull some drunk with them. I said, I'm not going. And they said, why not? I said,

01:01:09.380 the Phil Robertson you're looking for is dead. I said, he's gone. I said, this is the new one.

01:01:19.860 And he actually challenged you and said, you're never going to make it.

01:01:23.740 Yeah. They looked at each other and they were like, so this is the new one. They were like,

01:01:28.380 you got some kind of religious kick. I said, I think it's more than a religious kick. I said,

01:01:34.320 if you guys could tell me where I came from, what am I doing here? Is there a way out of here?

01:01:41.840 Speak on those matters. One of them said, if you really want to know where we came from,

01:01:47.920 we came from fish. He was a doctor, medical doctor. And I said, we came from fish. And I said,

01:01:55.660 and now we're frying and eating what we used to be. I said, I don't believe that. So they left

01:02:03.260 12 years goes by. The doctor diagnoses the atheist, Big Al, had an aneurysm near his heart. He said,

01:02:12.880 that thing explode. You are dead. So Big Al calls me 12 years after my conversion and said, 1.00

01:02:22.280 I want to talk to you. I said, I'm on my way. So it's about 70 miles. I drove to his house. I told

01:02:30.040 Wes Kay. I said, I think old Big Al is fixing to turn. When he told me that the doctor told him

01:02:36.620 about the aneurysm in his heart, I said, are you doubting just a little bit that maybe,

01:02:43.500 maybe there is a God. I said, physical death is knocking on your door, Bowling. He said,

01:02:51.220 I am doubting it. I'm doubting my atheism here. So he said, tell me what changed you because you

01:02:58.380 changed. Well, I told him the good news of Jesus. I went down and baptized him. He lasted about six

01:03:06.240 weeks. Fell over dead. They asked me to do his funeral, which was something I'd never done before.

01:03:14.960 And I told the family, I said, listen, you know, I said, most of these guys that do these funerals

01:03:19.080 kind of spiffed up a little bit. I said, I don't even own a suit. I said, so I don't know. I said,

01:03:25.620 y'all might ought to get somebody else. They said, he requested you in case he died. I said,

01:03:31.960 I'll do it. So all the townspeople were there. They knew he'd been a drunken and atheist.

01:03:38.920 So I got up there and said, old Big Al here. I said, his body's in the casket, his soul and

01:03:45.920 spirits with the Lord. I said, uh, I'll see him again. I said, he made it. I said, he cut it thin.

01:03:53.760 But he did make it. So I said, here's what I told him that y'all might not know about.

01:04:01.460 Well, I use it as a good way to preach the gospel to them. There wasn't a dry eye in the house,

01:04:06.760 you know, and out the door I went and haven't been back to that little town.

01:04:11.540 But Big Al made it by the skin of his teeth.

01:04:13.800 Tell me what happened when, uh, was it discovery? No. Who was it that took the show?

01:04:39.920 Uh, A&E. When A&E first came to you, was there any, you're a guy that doesn't use a computer.

01:04:46.520 You don't use a phone. Was there any, the fastest way to, my kids would be monsters if I had exposed

01:04:53.400 them to, to television like that. The, when they gave the pitch for the show, I held up my Bible and

01:05:00.020 I said, is this included? And they said, Mr. Robinson, whatever y'all do, we're just going to film you.

01:05:07.540 I said, let me guess. Y'all had a beating up there somewhere in New York. And I said, somebody probably

01:05:13.920 said, yeah, I know this is off the wall and way out there, but why don't we, why don't we film a

01:05:22.220 functional family? Mm-hmm. On a reality show. Mm-hmm. And someone says, someone else probably

01:05:28.020 said, I was telling A&E this. I said, somebody else probably said, well, we, we might confirm a

01:05:33.460 functional family, but where would you find one? Mm-hmm. So y'all kicked it around and you ended up

01:05:38.220 down here talking to us, right? They said, that's pretty close. That's about the way it went.

01:05:43.480 So when they gave their pitch, they leave and my four sons and their wives, they all looked at me

01:05:49.700 and they said, what do you think about it, dad? What do you think? I said, well, I said, a bunch of

01:05:56.420 rednecks shooting ducks. I don't think it'll work. I don't think people will want to watch that. I said,

01:06:03.600 however, I said, boys, what if this is God wanting us to have more

01:06:11.960 influence? Influence. I said, what if that's behind it? What if he's behind it? I said,

01:06:19.020 now, if he's behind it, I said, it'll go ballistic. Maybe he's given us the opportunity

01:06:23.600 to get the gospel preached to thousands. Beck, when we decided to do that, you say,

01:06:30.060 was the gospel preached to thousands? That's exactly what happened. Oh, yeah. I heard so many

01:06:34.780 people still coming to me. Yeah. And that was the, that was the takeaway from the show. Yeah. When,

01:06:40.840 but let me, let me ask you, where is it in my notes here? In the book, you talk about how

01:06:47.520 this thing was not a real success at the beginning. You said in the first year generated chicken scratch,

01:06:54.560 $8,200 in sales. Yep. Didn't leave a whole lot for family five to live on, but I was faithful and

01:06:59.680 committed to the vision. And the following year you made a whopping $13,000 in sales. Yep. Third year,

01:07:06.120 22, fourth year, 37. Yep. But by the early two thousands, duck commander had become a thriving

01:07:12.140 business. One supported by family. In addition to the families of the few employees, you and the TV

01:07:18.240 show came. Millions, millions, millions of dollars changed hand t-shirts, caps, hat. I remember buying

01:07:28.860 them for their children. You know, the kids, I said, where's all these duck calls going? I said,

01:07:33.040 there's not even that many duck hunters in America. And they said, they're, they're the

01:07:37.060 women, your fans are buying them for their kids. I said, I said, boy, what, what a, what's something 1.00

01:07:44.980 falling in my lap? Yeah. So, oh, it, it just went crazy. I remember stopping in a convenience store in

01:07:52.520 the middle of the country. And I think I was living in New York at the time where there was no duck,

01:07:57.980 there was no duck dynasty at anything in New York city. And, uh, uh, I don't remember where I was,

01:08:05.140 maybe Denver. And I fly in and we're driving and I stop into a convenience store. I said, let's pull

01:08:09.920 over. I just got to get something to drink. We pull over and it was duck dynasty. Everything. 1.00

01:08:16.720 I know it. Everything. That was nationwide. Yeah. It was crazy. So we looked up and we all got rich

01:08:22.560 and famous, but the bottom line is you say, how did it, how did that not rich? I know it's the love

01:08:30.280 of money. It's the love of fame. It's the arrogance that come from it. But we had grounded those boys

01:08:37.820 and then their wives, by the way, I raised four boys and they all came to me one at a time to show

01:08:44.900 you on why that didn't tear our family apart and go in all directions. You say, everybody weathered

01:08:50.780 that and everybody's still on track. People are preaching Jesus. Willie, Jason, Al, my oldest one,

01:08:58.200 you're like, Jeff over here in Austin. You're like, it all worked out. They all came to me after they

01:09:04.440 left home. And when they married and they started to have their children, one at a time, my sons came

01:09:11.340 by and they would say, dad, when we'd have a little feed or something, they'd say, thank

01:09:15.780 you for raising us the way you did. Because now that we have children, we get it. We get

01:09:25.300 it. They said, thank you for disciplining us to show it. I mean, rebuking us, correcting

01:09:33.140 us, training us. They said, thank you for that because we really need it now with our own

01:09:38.040 kids. We get it. Yeah. So they each thanked me for that. Well, it made me feel good because

01:09:43.140 what's happened in America back for the most part, our family structure is fast leaving.

01:09:53.380 Yeah. Like there's no father. There's no discipline. There's no, there's no father. There's no

01:09:58.500 mother. There's no male. There's no female. There's no adult. There's no child. There's nothing.

01:10:02.860 There's nothing. There's nothing. I mean, I trained them to, to obey their teachers. I

01:10:08.220 trained them to obey old people. If they're old and you are, sit down and shut up and listen 1.00

01:10:12.660 to them. I trained them to obey law enforcement. I trained them to salute the flag, to sing the 0.99

01:10:18.280 star spangled banner. I trained them to do that, to be patriotic and all that. Well, if it doesn't

01:10:24.020 come from dad, where's it going to come from? We lost that. And when we lost that, I

01:10:32.820 say, because we didn't think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, you run God

01:10:37.540 at America is never going to be great again until America becomes godly again.

01:10:45.400 Phil, I've been saying for a while now, um, uh, I think, especially now with infanticide

01:10:52.740 and everything else, I think this is like the Lord is just kind of throwing down and saying,

01:10:58.960 guys, it's all up to you. You either turn back to me, I'll heal your land, but you need

01:11:06.680 to turn back to me and you need to stand up and declare it. And you need to ask for my

01:11:12.380 forgiveness because I can't do anything with this anymore. I can't help you anymore. Uh,

01:11:17.040 you know, Abraham Lincoln had a, uh, he, he had a proclamation halfway through the civil

01:11:23.360 war. And I, I hate to say this to a Southerner here, but, um, cause I know it can get dicey

01:11:30.700 with Abraham Lincoln, but Abraham Lincoln's, we were halfway through the war. We had lost

01:11:35.480 every, the union had lost every single battle. Lincoln was begging God, what do I do? What

01:11:46.280 do you, what do you want? And you know, he's talking about all the treasure. If all the treasure

01:11:51.360 needs to be piled up and taken, so be it. And he said, this is about slavery. This is

01:11:59.660 about abolishing slavery. It was halfway through. Yup. And he said, you want me to free the

01:12:04.900 slaves? I'll free the slaves. Fine. I'll free the slaves. It's not about keeping the union

01:12:09.140 together. It's about that from here on out. Yup. He then went to the people and said, we

01:12:14.740 need fast prayer and humiliation. And he asked the whole country to do it. We only lost two

01:12:23.100 battles after that. Yup. Only two battles. Yup. It is all that is required. Yup. If and until

01:12:33.360 there's a mass repentance and a mass turning back, a revival, if you will, to God, I don't see

01:12:42.760 how we can stand. But how are you going to do that, Phil, when the churches have become

01:12:47.480 so ineffective and so limp? Romans 12 into practice, understand that we, the people of

01:12:56.280 God are the salt and the light of the world, or we're supposed to be. You're like, I'm just

01:13:02.760 one man. You're another one. You say, you just keep up and keep making the charge forward.

01:13:11.760 Come on. Let's go. Whether there's a mass repentance or not, I say they're worth the effort. The people

01:13:25.280 of the United States, I'm saying they're worth the effort. That's in my prayer every night.

01:13:30.480 Yeah. So I'm one. I'm going to be part of the, part of the, the spiritual warfare crowd. I'm trying

01:13:37.680 to get them to turn back to God. I've been doing this for the last two or three days, but you say,

01:13:43.120 everybody's basically in agreement on this. I mean, people who are sound thinking, you see what I'm

01:13:49.360 saying? Yeah. The no God thing has not worked well in the last 60 years. It's really hurt us.

01:13:56.240 It's never worked well in the history of mankind. Supreme court, when they decided they would become

01:14:00.580 the Supreme being, there's a big difference between the Supreme court and the Supreme being,

01:14:07.060 they stepped over in his shoes and they began to allow these people to kill their own children

01:14:12.900 and redefine 7,000 years of history of what a marriage is. Back when they did that, that really

01:14:22.200 hurt us. They should not have done that.

01:14:24.700 When I was at Fox, uh, it's 2009. I mean, everything was coming at me. Everything was

01:14:38.020 coming at me. People going through my garbage, looking for dirt on me, doing everything they

01:14:42.940 could. I remember the time. I remember the timeframe. It was bad. I knew you were in a bind,

01:14:47.860 but I just didn't know how big a bind you. Yeah, it was bad. It was bad. And, uh, and I prayed

01:14:52.840 every night, Lord, please help, help, help, help, help, help, help, help. And, uh, it was

01:14:57.740 so clear to me. These are not enemies of yours. They're not enemies of yours. They're enemies

01:15:03.080 of mine. And I will deal with them in my time. Love them. Holy cow. Holy cow. Um, we, we have

01:15:17.760 lost the ability to see the truth anymore. We have lost the ability to truly be, uh, have

01:15:26.600 our senses offended. You know what I mean? We're so outraged about everything except

01:15:30.680 infanticide. Look how hard it is for us. Instead of trying to find one mistake,

01:15:40.460 Judge Kavanaugh, other, they go back into people's past and they try to find something

01:15:47.440 they can get them on. It doesn't make any difference. They got to bring them down. You

01:15:53.080 say, we've lost the ability just to forgive each other. We've just lost it. I mean, the

01:16:00.940 forgiveness is like, Oh, that's weak. You're like, no, it's not. We're all full of sin.

01:16:07.000 And if everybody makes mistakes, I mean, and what were you, we're going through

01:16:09.740 people's high school yearbook. Look, I mean, look, you look back at my past. It

01:16:16.360 is pathetic. Right. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. So you're like, boy, you, you, you got 0.99

01:16:21.740 me there. I gave them all to God way back. Thankfully he's a forgiving and a loving

01:16:26.380 God and you're not a forgiving and loving person, but give me a break. Yeah. We've

01:16:32.380 just lost godliness. We've lost it. We've lost as a nation.

01:16:37.000 We've lost faith in an almighty. We have, we have God, but we do not have an almighty.

01:16:52.460 I say, we just continue the charge straight, go straight forward. Try our best. I'm 72.

01:16:59.740 You say, you're running out of time faster than I'm running out of time. I'm just going

01:17:06.340 to try to keep on keeping on until I get too old to do it. Then, you know, I'll sit there

01:17:10.720 and maybe a few can come by. We'll give them a few words of instruction. I'm not budging

01:17:14.600 on it, you know, whether they repent or not, but I wish they would repent because they are

01:17:20.080 really, really going to scream loudly. If a lot of these positions and these programs they're

01:17:26.520 trying to push through, we give these people their way, I'm telling you, misery and ruin

01:17:33.600 is going to go unchecked for a long time. They will scream and holler and beg for mercy,

01:17:40.500 but there won't be any.

01:17:41.620 Forgive them, Father, for they know not what they do.

01:17:50.120 Last bit. Tell me what, uh, tell me what the death and resurrection means to you.

01:18:01.820 Now, everything else when it comes to sin or health, your health care, everything is temporary.

01:18:20.640 Nothing is eternal until you get to that.

01:18:23.220 So, when you start talking about something that's eternal, it's even a hard concept to wrap your head

01:18:36.400 around. You're like, eternal. I told them, that's why I tell people all the time, I said,

01:18:41.860 I really am not too concerned about buying man's insurance. I said, because with God, it's eternal

01:18:55.000 health care. He said, I'll heal your diseases too. I said, I've just watched through the years.

01:19:02.160 I said, if you have eternal health care, I said, and what's amazing about it, it is free.

01:19:08.480 I said, they're talking about programs with temporary results, right? I mean, the medical

01:19:18.060 profession, all the doctors, all the medical, you say, all they're going to give you at best

01:19:24.080 is a temporary reprieve, but you still have that six foot hole to go into because all the ones

01:19:30.660 treating you end up in the six foot hole along with all the nurses and you. So you say, is there 0.89

01:19:38.460 anything lasting here? Yeah. Jesus and the death of Jesus and his resurrection, you say,

01:19:46.540 eternal consequences. That's why I said earlier when I started, immortality's riding on this.

01:19:54.400 Well, I've never read any story ever since I've been on planet earth that offered immortality to a

01:19:59.040 person about what he did 2,000 years ago. I've never, I've never heard of it. I mean,

01:20:05.140 it is the strangest story I personally have ever read. I don't think human beings literally

01:20:12.560 could have invented a Jesus. I don't think they could have done it.

01:20:18.620 I think you could have invented a story, but it wouldn't have been this, uh, because it went against

01:20:24.120 everything in the culture at the time. And it wouldn't, it wouldn't read like it does today.

01:20:29.460 There's no book I've ever read that reads like this. Me either. And I mean, there's a lot of

01:20:36.180 really great books, a lot of really great books. I've never had a question that was not answered.

01:20:42.520 Right. And I'm thinking, how in the world could you, right. You know, if you read what Jesus said,

01:20:48.200 I mean, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, not that thick. And if you read that, you say, he never said,

01:20:54.420 listen, I need to clarify what I said. Uh, I need to, I need to clarify what I said because I don't want

01:21:03.600 you to get there. No, I never heard him even come close to saying, well, I should have, I could have

01:21:09.920 explained this. No. And it's, and it's Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, you say, how in the world could,

01:21:20.260 could you even record somebody saying what he said? And you can't find any on second thought.

01:21:27.920 Maybe I should have said nothing. It's just bump into the end.

01:21:33.500 And even with as much as our culture has changed, everything he said,

01:21:39.260 both sides would still say is valid.

01:21:42.160 And look how low tech of a world was. I know.

01:21:46.460 You talk about low tech. Yeah.

01:21:48.160 You say in, and that's still what he said, pertinent. Fast forward 2000 years, you're like,

01:21:55.420 how in the world could anything that far back be that relevant? Right.

01:22:00.440 Down to every part of your life. Where'd we come from? What are we doing here?

01:22:06.000 Is there any way out of here? Well, you just read through it and you say,

01:22:12.220 here we sit. I think we're in very good shape myself.

01:22:19.000 I'm going to leave it at that. Name of the book, The Theft of America's Soul,

01:22:24.120 blowing the lid off the lies that are destroying our country. The author, Phil Robertson.

01:22:28.880 Just a reminder, I'd love you to rate and subscribe to the podcast and pass this on to a friend

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01:22:42.060 I'm going to leave it at that.

01:22:53.620 I'm going to leave it at that.

01:22:54.620 I'm going to leave it at that.

01:22:55.620 Bye.

The Glenn Beck Program - April 20, 2019

Ep 33 ｜ Phil Robertson ｜ The Glenn Beck Podcast

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