ARE WE NEARING THE END OF THE PANDEMIC？
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Dr. Robert Malone, an inventor of RNAV vaccines, joins the show to talk about the China Virus Pandemic, the role of the communist Chinese, who should and should not be vaccinated, and the dangers of big pharma dictating public health policy.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Great America Podcast with Lou Dobbs,
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always in the fight for truth, justice, and yes, our American way of life.
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And now, here he is, the Peabody award-winning voice of truth, the great Lou Dobbs.
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Hello, everybody, and welcome to the Great America Show.
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Glad to have you with us, and we thank you for listening in.
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We all know we're living in troubled times, but it's important for all of us
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to take notice of the good that also accompanies these times.
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He and a group of doctors all across the country have stood up to big government,
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And they have, with their knowledge and intelligence and courage,
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shined bright lights on our public health system and political and medical establishments.
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We'll be talking with Dr. Robert Malone about all these issues that arose from the pandemic,
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everything from the role of the communist Chinese, virology and early treatment vaccine mandates,
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Politicians, should they be acting as our doctors?
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No doubt we're in the middle of a mess these days, whether it's Putin invading Ukraine,
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Xi threatening Taiwan, or Biden being our commander-in-chief.
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Gallup has his approval rating at a flat 40%, the lowest ever in Gallup's polling,
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which means that many of the Democrats who put this weak and frail man in the White House
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are regretting what they've done to the country and you and me.
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We've also lived through two years of the COVID virus pandemic, the China virus pandemic.
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But the good news is we could be near the end of this pandemic.
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Some of the best medical minds tell us our natural immunity is working and growing
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And importantly, many of those doctors are saying straightforwardly that there is no medical
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No reason for emergency actions to be invoked at all.
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One of those doctors is himself an inventor of RNA vaccines.
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Dr. Robert Malone is not only a brilliant doctor, but a courageous one and a great American.
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And on top of all of that, Dr. Malone is one of my favorite guests, a brilliant man who's
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done an immense public service throughout COVID.
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Dr. Malone, welcome back to The Great America Show.
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It's like someone threw a switch two weeks ago, and suddenly, Dr. Fauci isn't on a Sunday
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talk show, and we're not hearing a lot from the White House about COVID or Omicron or any
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We did hear, though, that his last words, I believe, from his last appearance were something
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on the order, and Dr. Fauci said COVID isn't done with us yet.
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Can you tell us what you think is going on here?
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Yeah, and it's a little more complex than that because they're using the COVID to justify
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a, illegitimately justify a national emergency so they can basically extend their war powers
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and by continuing this national emergency for another 90 days, and that's what allows them
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to invoke this Department of Homeland Security action where they're labeling the likes of
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you and me because we're discussing things that might cause people to have some concerns
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That's now the definition of a domestic terrorist, apparently, according to Homeland Security.
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But on the virus front, you may or may not recall because, you know, you're not as much
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I went on my friend Laura Ingram's show before Christmas, and I stuck my neck out like a chicken
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on the chopping block, and I said, you know, Laura, this looks like this Omicron could be a
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I heard a lot of people were a little surprised by that, according to Laura.
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And then we had this fascinating interview with Mr. William Gates, PhD, MD.
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Just have to, you know, check in with some of us are a little impaired in that.
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So Bill Gates' recent interview in which he expresses regret that, sadly, Omicron has acted
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like a vaccine and has essentially created mucosal immunization for the whole world.
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So I thought that was an amazing Freudian reveal from Mr. Gates.
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I don't know why you would see this as a sad thing, but maybe it has to do with his economic
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Well, there's plenty of that abroad in the world, isn't there?
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Yeah, so what's happened is, as you've probably been tracking, because you are who you are,
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on Worldometer or other things, and your audience can look for themselves.
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They can look up Worldometer on the World Wide Web.
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Please use DuckDuckGo, not Google, for personal reasons.
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But you can track there and look at your favorite country or your favorite state and see what's
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happened with new cases with Omicron, and they've collapsed.
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And furthermore, you know, there's, the data is coming out now about what's happened with
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Omicron and its relationship to the vaccines or lack of vaccines.
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Uh, we, we clearly have elicited strong, uh, natural immunity with this virus, right?
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Anybody that went to a Christmas gathering, practically that I've ever talked to over the,
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over, uh, um, the turning of the year has probably had the experience that, that, that many people
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tell me, which is in their families, the vaccinated got, uh, Omicron easier than the unvaccinated.
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And often they got it harder and the data are coming in, uh, supporting that.
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So that's the, the worrisome thing that this is kind of looking.
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It's got a lot of the signs that this may be showing signs of vaccine enhanced infection
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and disease with Omicron, and hopefully we don't see another variant come out driven by
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this, you know, rabid vaccinate everything kind of approach, uh, that will, will up the
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But for right now, it looks like we have finally reached heart immunity, Tony Fauci, but not
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through anything he did, uh, but through this, uh, crazy uncle virus that, uh, um, isn't,
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isn't, uh, lethal like the prior ones, but is more highly infectious and seems to be generating
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Uh, that's, you've just described what happened in our family as well, uh, at Christmas, uh,
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Uh, nobody was seriously injured or seriously, uh, you had serious symptoms.
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Uh, it was a peculiar, you know, delightful result, but everyone was, you know, of course,
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And, and, and who, who would have thunk that crazy, uh, that crazy guy that, uh, should
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be not allowed to speak on Twitter or LinkedIn, uh, and, uh, should be, uh, his little three
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hour chat with Joe Rogan should be censored forever, um, would have called it right.
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Uh, it's, you know, I, I cannot imagine what in the world where this country, I could not
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have imagined us going through a period like this in the United States of America, what
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we have witnessed over these last couple of years has been something that was unthinkable
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to most Americans and our reaction, uh, as a, uh, as a nation, uh, as a people, I would
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never have thought Americans would stand for it.
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I would have never thought that Americans would have, uh, taken this as it were lying
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And thanks to you and other voices that, that bright, uh, knowledgeable and courageous,
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uh, were able to penetrate what I believe at one time, uh, a very famous person referred
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to as a mass, uh, a mass psychosis, uh, and it would be Joe Rogan, right?
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I was thinking of you really, uh, it was amazing, uh, uh, to, to imagine this mass formation psychosis.
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I believe, uh, on, on behalf Lou and behalf, now I'm being sincere, no sarcasm on behalf of
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not just myself, but all my physician and scientist colleagues like peer Corey and Peter McCulloch and
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Ryan Cole and, uh, Brian Tyson and George Farheed and Zev Zelenko and the list just goes on and
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on and on, um, that have, have taken risk and, uh, and, and taken the hits.
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I can speak for all of them and, uh, we're, by the way, Lou unified that this emergency is
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over the 17,000 physicians and medical scientists that form the, uh, group behind global COVID
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Uh, this is the international Alliance of physicians and medical scientists.
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It's 17,000 of us have been saying this needs to stop.
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And now last night we put out a call that in, in, um, a press release stating there is no medical
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There is no reason for this emergency declaration and suspension of constitutional powers on the
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part of the Biden administration for the next 90 days.
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That is a great proclamation, a great declaration, uh, to hear particularly from you.
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Uh, and, and I think that people really have to understand, uh, if they do not already that
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bill Gates is a lousy person to get medical, uh, analysis, uh, and diagnosis from, uh, and
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as you say, I don't know what his incentives, his motivation is, but as you correctly, uh, put
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it, uh, he, he, he, he acknowledged the reduced risk of COVID, but then quickly, uh, put forward
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this addendum, which was, but another pandemic is coming.
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Uh, why I would assume that that would be a safe forecast.
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So long as you don't put a date with the, the outlook.
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I mean, it's easy to predict that eventually we're going to have a dark winter.
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Um, uh, that doesn't take any great, uh, insight.
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Um, what a lot of people, of course, are spooked about is bill Gates fingerprints are all over
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this thing on, and the, uh, event 201 and the planning and, uh, his amazing foresight in
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investing in Pfizer and Moderna, um, and reaping the profits from that and many other similar
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And I, I, people, you know, people like Zeb Zelenko that have been out ahead of the curve
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are scared silly that Mr. Gates has got his fingers into more, um, uh, how shall I say
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Monkey business, um, uh, relating to other viruses.
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And, uh, it is a big issue for big pharma, uh, because now we're seeing some, uh, peculiar
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interaction and reactions, uh, from, uh, various public health agencies, as well as, as the
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government itself, they, the FDA seems to be standing a little taller these days.
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They seem to be a little straighter than, uh, for example, the CDC.
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Well, that's, that's, uh, an interesting comparison.
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And that's, uh, that's a case of pot and kettle.
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So, so we had this truth bomb, uh, that this, that the New York times did their best to cover
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up and, you know, released on the most optimal day they could, which was president's day.
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I mean, they could have released it late Friday night, uh, but you know how journalism works.
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Um, so they, they dropped the New York times, uh, dropped this truth bomb, uh, you know,
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that is, they've totally tried to spin, uh, on Monday, February 21 with the title, the
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CDC isn't publishing large portions of the COVID data it collects.
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And, and let me, let me just, you know, if I can, this is the New York times.
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They are the voice basically of the world economic forum at this point.
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And, and let me read it two full years into the pandemic, the agency leading the country's
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response to the public health emergency has published only a tiny fraction of the data
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Several people familiar with the data said, and you know what that means.
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Much of the withheld information could help state and local health officials better target
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their efforts to bring the virus under control.
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If that isn't a mic drop moment, I don't know what is.
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Um, but then, then they go on, you know, this is the New York times quote, the CDC is a political
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organization as much as it is a public health organization says Samuel Scarpino of Rockefeller
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I mean, Rockefeller Foundation has been driving this, um, as, as a independent, uh, non-governmental
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They are, are tight as ticks with the CDC, right?
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Um, this guy, but apparently Samuel Scarpino is the only one willing to put his name to
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this because the rest of them all running for cover.
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The steps that the CDC takes that it takes to get something like this release, that being
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the data that they've been hiding are often well outside of the control of many of the scientists
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that work at the CDC, what they're doing is they're throwing Rochelle Walensky under the
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It's time for CDC scientists and physicians to decide which side of the bar they want to
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be on witness or defense, because that time is coming.
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Now that's now that is, uh, you know, I hope true.
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And I want to understand the context in which you mean it.
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If I was to publish a paper, an epidemiology paper, and I had a bunch of data and I selected
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to only publish the data, let's imagine I was sitting as a full professor at, uh, your
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And I published a paper in a journal, um, that was epidemiology of, uh, COVID-19.
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And I had a whole ton of data, but I decided to only select the data that I wanted to publish
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And I would, I could fully expect to have that paper pulled, um, to lose my future grant and
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contract, uh, privileges with government and to lose my academic appointment for, for having
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Um, I, I have the privilege of having, um, frequent communication with Senator Ron Johnson.
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And if the, how, if the Senate flips, uh, Mr. Johnson is going to be in charge of the Senate
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Uh, and, uh, I generally don't, I, because I work with the government, I have to stay relatively
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non-partisan historically, but as you know, this whole situation has flushed me out in
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And, uh, I, I firmly believe that if we're ever going to get to the bottom of this rot,
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uh, it's Senator Johnson is the person right now.
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I'm, I'm looking forward to his chairmanship and also, uh, that of Senator Rand Paul, who
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will, if, uh, again, as you say, the Republicans win the Senate back, uh, he will chair, uh,
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So, and he has vowed, he has vowed to find Mr. Fauci.
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The, the, both of them are pissed off for good reason.
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What, what are my favorite legal terms, uh, that would be exactly right.
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Certainly no one in the public who has been both, uh, you know, astonished with what we've
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had to go through and then perplexed because we've had so much in the way of conflicting
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information coming from our public health agencies, from our white house.
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And, uh, of course, Dr. Fauci, uh, it is, it is, it still amazes me to think that were
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it not for you, uh, McCullough, all the rest, uh, you know, this country would be, I don't
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know where we'd be, uh, but we wouldn't be, uh, uh, in the middle of an information revolution
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when it comes to COVID, uh, and public health mandates, uh, that are truly, uh, fiats from
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People more and more is like, cause I'm traveling all the time, Lou, it's driving us nuts.
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I've just backed from, uh, a teach-in in Boise and then another one in Washington state on
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Uh, but, um, you know, we're, we're in a situation where people, people are talking about a great
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Uh, and, um, uh, folks, uh, from the communities of faith are talking about it.
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Uh, but more and more folks are also seeing what we're up against.
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And this is just a skirmish, uh, I'm honored to, you know, by your words and by the opportunity
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But, uh, we're now, a lot of us are getting pretty woken up about, and I, you know, I, I,
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I hesitate to use that term for obvious reasons, but, uh, we've had a 30 year effort by this
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group called the World Economic Forum under the guidance of Mr. Klaus Schwab to, uh, train
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and insert into all of the Western democracies, acolytes of his particular globalist vision.
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And, uh, they are, I'm sorry to say, I've, as I've learned over time, it's, it's, um,
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And, and the commitment to Dr. Malone is referring to, uh, what sometimes is loosely referred to
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as the one world, uh, governance, uh, that so many of these people seek, uh, and it goes
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Uh, there is an authoritarian strain to it all.
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And there is de facto an alignment with governments that, uh, I think most Americans would be very
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And I think that, that, uh, in, in, we can see it in what's happened to my unfortunate Canadian
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Uh, you know, I, I have good friends on the other side of the border and we've been in
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close contact and I've been actively supporting the Canadian truckers wherever I can.
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You know, am I ever going to be able to go back across the border in Canada without having
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Um, you know, I hear these stories, uh, first person now, for instance, here's a good one
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for you, Lou, a friend of mine is a pathologist on the other side of the border.
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Uh, the, uh, Trudeau side will say, um, uh, called me the other day and he'd wanted me to
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record a short video for him, me and Ryan Cole in support of the Canadian truckers for a pig
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roast they were going to have at a farmer's place.
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And the government in Canada heard that this farmer was going to have a pig roast in support
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of the Canadian truckers and they froze his bank account.
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They froze, I'm sorry, they froze the farmer's bank account.
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Um, it, it, and this is the same, this is under the, basically the same justification of emergency
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And Trudeau has extended what were to be temporary powers under the emergency act.
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Now this is, I must hasten to, uh, admonish, uh, all listening.
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This is just playing out totalitarianism, uh, raw, but without involving the military.
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Uh, so if anyone wants to know the difference between the emergency act and the, uh, declaring
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martial law, that's basically it, uh, to a broad point.
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But, but Lou, in our case, we now have, uh, Mr. Biden and his administration have called
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in the national guard into DC because they're cowering, uh, behind their fences because some
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peaceful truckers have decided to leave Barstow today and drive over towards DC.
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It's going to take them about 11 days to get there.
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And meanwhile, they've got this fence up, which for all the world to many, it looks like
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it's a rather permanent structure, uh, that's been put up, uh, around the Capitol.
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Uh, it's, uh, this is stuff that is, uh, it looks like it is, uh, the, what would you
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The predicate for something more, there seems to be something more afoot on the part of
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And it doesn't look like it is, uh, it doesn't look like democracy to me.
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It doesn't look to me like, uh, those are public buildings, uh, as most Americans would
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And we're looking at a potential, uh, I think inflection point in our history.
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Um, this is why the, uh, international, uh, Alliance of Physicians and Medical Scientists,
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the 17,000 came out with their statement today on global COVID summit.org.
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There is no justification for the suspension of the constitution and the emergency powers
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Let me, let me also, let me bring this back for just a, uh, an interlude here to the virus
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itself, because many of us are concerned and some, some confused.
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Is it a wise thing that we give, uh, for example, Moderna, uh, Pfizer, the, the right,
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if not the authorization, uh, and approval by the FDA, the right to vaccinate, uh, everyone
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from infants to five-year-olds from five-year-olds to 11-year-olds, uh, when they are the least
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Um, and the question, I, I got two questions for your audience.
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When are we going to stop letting the pharmaceutical industry dictate public health policy in the
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And the second one is, are you okay with letting politicians be your doctor?
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Yeah, that's well put and, uh, and, uh, and well-placed because the question, the questions
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you ask are central to this and it is a political question as well as a public health question.
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And I think that we all come to the same answer in this country.
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I would hope we would, not all of us, but certainly a vast majority of us would come,
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Those, those of us, it seems to be those of us that work with our hands do.
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Um, those, the, the laptop class, I'm not so sure, but one of the things that unites truckers
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and physicians and medical care providers is we actually work for a living.
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Same with the folks that are moving boxes and Amazon and, uh, you know, stocking the shelves
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and, uh, taking care of, uh, business in terms of police and firefighters and, uh, war fighters.
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We've got, we've got a lot of people that actually work for a living.
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And then we've got folks that, that, uh, you know, kind of email it in.
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And, uh, and I, I'm sorry to say that, uh, the, uh, let's say the new school advocate
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journalists are in that cast as well as the, um, workers at, uh, the likes of, uh, the big
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You know, I hate to say it, Dr. Malone, but I think that those are not new school journalists.
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I think what they are out and out corporate propagandists.
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They are most of them employed by corporate news outlets.
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They have no, uh, separate, uh, set of values, uh, that would command that they sacrifice,
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uh, uh, their jobs, uh, or their, uh, reputation within the established corporate, uh, news media,
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And everyone should be very frightened of that reality.
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It get, uh, again, I come down to those three words that ring like bells in the soul of honest
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And so here we are with, uh, right now, big pharma dictating public health, and here we
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are with politicians, uh, uh, deciding our fates within the, uh, you know, following the
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And, and, and meanwhile, ignoring the scientists, the doctors, the researchers who are not, or
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refusing to even publish the data so that we can do our job.
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So where do we go from here with, to narrow this just a bit to the CDC?
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How do we get all of that data in front of every, uh, doctor, every, uh, researcher, and
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every, uh, person who is responsible for public health in one fashion or another, that would
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be anyone from, uh, a doctor, a public agency, uh, it could be the superintendent of a school
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Or, or, or school boards or governors that are having to make key decisions about public policy
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and not to mention physicians, uh, and, and other public health officials.
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I'm, I'm as gobsmacked as you are that, uh, the centers for disease control and prevention
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is now explicitly acknowledged as a political organization operating as a political arm of
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the executive branch, but that's where we're at.
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And, uh, and what, uh, you know, to, to call things the way they are to call it like I see
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it, this is a failure of congressional oversight and, uh, they've allowed the CDC and the
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so I've been, Lou, I've been having, as, as this time has progressed and I'm being seen
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as a voice, uh, because of my being willing to speak truth, uh, a lot of folks that are
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involved in public policy have been coming to me.
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And, uh, uh, what I'm hearing is the development of, uh, activities in think tanks, particularly
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in conservative think tanks, anticipating a turnover at the next election at the midterms
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and at the presidential election and trying to think through how did we let things go so
00:32:36.640
And what I'm hearing is that one of the things that happened was that there was a belief that
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you could change the bureaucracy and get things on track with, uh, making the right appointments
00:32:55.840
And they now see many of these people are now clearly aware that you have gotten entrenched
00:33:04.020
bureaucracy when you, we use terms like the deep state, but a entrenched bureaucracy that
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does not have the interest of the American people, uh, in, in its, you know, in, uh, in
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its focus and, uh, uh, which is completely refractory to, uh, change from the executive branch.
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And, uh, if you want to see the indictment papers, you got to read a book called the real
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Anthony Fauci by the, uh, brilliant lawyer, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
00:33:37.220
Who has basically written an indictment for this gentleman and an indictment of the whole
00:33:44.360
And you're, you're exactly right, uh, in talking about the deep state, uh, there are people who
00:33:52.300
have hesitated because when you use the expression deep state, they think that you're somehow talking
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about, uh, conspiracies, uh, and, uh, you know, nonsense, the deep state is reality.
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Uh, the pure, the permanent bureaucracy is too nice a term.
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It is hardly sinister enough, uh, to connote what is the reality within our government.
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That isn't just the first two or three layers of any, uh, one of the agencies or departments.
00:34:25.240
It is, uh, it is a bureaucracy, a deep state that is, is absolutely pervasive, uh, vertically,
00:34:35.500
horizontally, in every way and every fashion through the federal government in particular,
00:34:42.180
And a lot of people, when they hear that term, they think the intelligence community,
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but the intelligence community is just one facet.
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Uh, and secondly, there is no oversight, no matter what anyone wants.
00:35:01.820
Well, and they have a black, they have a black budget, so they can basically do whatever
00:35:07.320
There are two, there are two people who two sorts of people who knew when the Wuhan virus
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was unleashed on the world by the Chinese, uh, with foreknowledge and without warning that
00:35:20.940
knew that China, Xi Jinping was morally and ethically responsible for the murders of millions
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They were our intelligence agencies and they were our public health agencies.
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They both knew, uh, do you disagree with my, my view?
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And the data are coming out to further validate that almost on a daily basis now.
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It's not just in the U S um, Canada and France are involved also.
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I think it was the globe and mail or something like that that just came out with another piece
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today, um, with another reveal this, this, what, you know, we, those of us that care and
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are paying attention, um, and are, are seeing this beast as I am really for the first time.
00:36:16.500
I mean, the last two years have been an amazing road, uh, but we got, for all of us, for all
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I, I want to go to China and its accountability, but I want to, I just want to first tell you
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how awful that, uh, uh, pervasive, uh, uh, secret power is within world agencies as well.
00:36:45.620
The world health organization, most people would be surprised to learn, uh, is heavily
00:36:53.120
The Chinese government have, uh, personnel placements.
00:36:57.560
Uh, the place is riddled, uh, with, uh, CCP agents, uh, and, uh, and that's not an exaggeration.
00:37:06.780
I can tell you from first, I can tell you from first person experience the way the WHO works.
00:37:18.000
Well, so they, they basically, they think they don't have enough money.
00:37:24.780
And, uh, for a while, the building was getting a little thin in terms of personnel.
00:37:30.400
And, uh, so what they started to do, it's not just CCP, but it's also pharma.
00:37:36.720
So for instance, when we had the Ebola vaccine, uh, rush, uh, when I was supporting the department
00:37:42.820
of defense in that, uh, um, the company that I was supporting new link genetics, which was
00:37:50.160
the one that had the vaccine that got sold to Merck and became the Merck vaccine originally
00:38:00.660
Um, and, uh, and there was a lot of churn that GSK was going to beat.
00:38:10.340
And, uh, the punchline was we ended up with the best vaccine, uh, even though it surprised
00:38:16.620
And when that became clear, the director general came up to us.
00:38:22.880
And she basically, um, told new link that they needed to pony up and, uh, provide funding
00:38:37.560
The way they play the game is if you, it's pay to play.
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If you want access and you want a seat at the table, you got to pony up and that's how
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And then that's also how all the nation states do.
00:38:58.080
And, uh, if you are a pharmaceutical entity and I could name names, uh, what, what you
00:39:05.860
got to do is you pay for a full-time employee and that person works at the WHO and is basically
00:39:15.320
your spy, um, is your agent working at the F at the WHO, sitting at a desk, doing their
00:39:22.080
daily job, but also well aware that they're being paid by your money and, uh, and they
00:39:30.220
represent your interests as, as fill in the blank pharma and the same game is played by
00:39:43.320
I mean, I can tell you in my world, it's long been known that the WHO is, uh, absolutely a
00:39:51.260
vehicle for intelligence operations and influence.
00:39:55.700
But what happened was, uh, during the Trump administration, for whatever reason, I guess
00:40:00.880
he got pissed off and for good reason, I can't blame him for that, but he withdrew the capital
00:40:06.000
and, and, you know, nature of poor is a vacuum.
00:40:10.500
And, uh, and the CCP just said, well, thank you very much.
00:40:15.080
Uh, and by the way, that's also how come we have Mr. William Gates, MD, PhD in there is
00:40:23.180
because, uh, you know, we didn't, there wasn't enough capital.
00:40:27.200
And so he filled the vacuum and he, you know, a lot of people in my world think that he's
00:40:34.080
Well, Tedros, uh, is a man who, uh, sat at the knee.
00:40:38.960
I'll put it that way of Xi Jinping, uh, and did so, uh, highly publicly, uh, he did everything
00:40:50.560
I, I, I will tell you, uh, very quickly, uh, something that happened in the early days
00:40:55.660
of the, of the pandemic, uh, it was not called a pandemic as you know, for a number of weeks.
00:41:02.300
And I finally, uh, decided I would declare a pandemic on my show.
00:41:08.380
Uh, and, uh, that night I said, and this is two weeks before the WHO ultimately declared
00:41:17.520
it was a pandemic and the CDC refused to call it a pandemic until the WHO would call it a
00:41:25.120
And so I declared it a pandemic because at that point, I believe it was in 13 countries.
00:41:30.820
Uh, it was straightforward and I am not a person, as you might guess, who will put up with nonsense
00:41:42.460
I was, there was a, an, an amazement that I would do that without the WHO telling me it
00:41:51.460
Or the CDC, I should have understood right then what we were up against.
00:41:57.140
Uh, but I did not fully appreciate, uh, the connection between the WHO, uh, the Chinese,
00:42:06.420
uh, communist party, uh, and for that matter, what you described in the way the WHO works,
00:42:12.320
I didn't know whether you're talking about the Chinese money flowing to the WHO or whether
00:42:17.260
you're talking about big pharma money that flows to Congress, because it's the same process.
00:42:25.000
And with that, I, uh, I just, I know that we've, uh, because you've lighted the path in
00:42:33.760
I know we've got uphill work to do and it's going to take a lot to get this situation.
00:42:38.980
I, I don't, I gotta tell you, Lou, I'm, I, uh, this is a skirmish.
00:42:44.540
We've got a big battle and I don't know if we're going to win it.
00:42:48.060
Um, they are, they've been going at this for decades and they are well entrenched.
00:42:54.720
And, uh, like for instance, there was somebody, a conservative in, in, uh, the Canadian government
00:43:02.060
that tried to confront Justin Trudeau about how many world economic forum, uh, um, trainees
00:43:09.340
he had in his, uh, cabinet and, uh, they wouldn't let him talk.
00:43:15.260
They, they wouldn't let the person asking the question, finish asking the question.
00:43:23.420
They wouldn't even allow the question to be raised where we're unfortunately pretty well
00:43:31.420
Uh, we're going to let me, let me add to, uh, everyone's appreciation of the Greece, uh,
00:43:39.960
Uh, that's when the United States Supreme court rejects a challenge to the main COVID vaccine
00:43:48.780
It is the second rejection of plaintiffs who were seeking religious exemption.
00:43:55.380
And for what reason, in my view, pure and simple intellectual dishonesty and a lack of moral
00:44:05.120
courage and, uh, and an absolute abdication of their constitutional responsibility.
00:44:11.920
I thought you were going to say a lack of moral turpitude.
00:44:15.080
Um, uh, if I'd have thought of it, I would have.
00:44:21.280
Uh, and, um, uh, increasingly I'm hearing the words, this is a 1776 moment.
00:44:30.260
And, uh, uh, like I said about those CDC scientists that aren't willing to, to share their name.
00:44:38.280
Um, you know, you gotta, it's time to figure out which side of the bar you're going to stand
00:44:44.800
And, and, uh, you know, you're the, you know, there's, I, this, the phrase,
00:44:51.280
uh, the tree of Liberty is watered with the blood of patriots.
00:44:54.180
I, I, I don't want to imply that people ought to get into a shooting war, but I absolutely
00:45:01.260
want to message that, um, you know, you can stand with freedom or not.
00:45:14.580
I have, I have, uh, inferred that, uh, and I, uh, am very proud of you for, uh, putting
00:45:22.540
forward, uh, the statement because it is really true.
00:45:25.640
Uh, people must, you know, there's a lot of wokeness going around, but what we need as
00:45:30.680
an awakening, uh, and I, and I stand with you, I stand with the doctors with whom you're
00:45:36.620
associated who have done so much to, uh, to enlighten the, uh, the public, uh, I, my job
00:45:43.640
is a host of, uh, this great America show is to help, uh, enlarge the body of public knowledge
00:45:54.840
And I, and I hate to say it this way, but I, I am going to insist because there is such
00:46:01.000
People keep talking about our God given rights, uh, here.
00:46:05.380
Uh, I believe that the United States is providential, that we, our founders were inspired by God,
00:46:14.600
These are American rights that are not shared by any other country, including our, our brothers
00:46:20.240
and sisters to the North and our brothers and sisters to the South, to the South is Mexico,
00:46:26.600
And to the North, they appear to be an emerging totalitarian state.
00:46:32.000
If Justin Trudeau has his way, Joe Biden is his mentor and that is his way as well, but
00:46:40.680
And I truly believe we will prevail, but as long as we can be as honest as Dr. Robert
00:46:47.220
Malone, as long as we can be energetic and defensive, the truth, uh, and enlarging the
00:46:56.500
So I'm going to give you the last word, Dr. Malone, take it away.
00:47:06.620
Uh, um, I, I, I do think that it is time that we make it clear and stand with the truckers.
00:47:16.260
This is a peaceful protest and the physicians stand aligned with the truckers that, uh, at
00:47:24.920
least the physicians I represent that there is no medical emergency here.
00:47:29.540
And the emergency declaration that Mr. Biden has just, uh, announced is needs, needs to come
00:47:38.780
down and the people that can bring it down and stop it is the Senate and the house.
00:47:46.120
And I believe strongly they have an obligation to do so.
00:47:50.660
What happened last Wednesday, in my opinion, was cowardice.
00:47:54.540
We had four key Republican senators at a time when they could have voted down the mandates.
00:48:00.280
And what they did was they jumped into their jet planes and went off to Europe and back to
00:48:08.000
I want to give special credit to, uh, to Mitt Romney and Lindsey Graham, uh, for being
00:48:21.740
Um, so, uh, you know, we got to call it out and, um, and it's a time of choosing and, uh,
00:48:32.900
it's time of choosing for all kinds of people in different ways.
00:48:36.640
Uh, and, um, and the, the, the docs that I represent stand with the truckers, uh, we're all
00:48:49.680
Uh, we got to put on our pants and go to work and get the job done.
00:48:53.560
Um, and, uh, we are sick and tired and I can tell you that the department of defense, our
00:49:00.220
war fighters are sick and tired and our firefighters and, um, our policemen and, um, all of our,
00:49:10.380
the folks that work for a living are just tired of this funky business that I know.
00:49:15.380
Um, the pilots, um, I couldn't, I'm just amazed at the support I'm getting from airline personnel
00:49:31.980
There is no justification for suspending the constitution, uh, right at this point in time.
00:49:39.520
And frankly, there's no justification for bringing in the national guard to protect Mr.
00:49:46.920
Biden from a rally of peaceful truckers voicing their, uh, constitutional rights to free speech.
00:49:55.300
Well said, Dr. Malone, uh, I couldn't, uh, agree more.
00:50:00.740
I thank you for everything that you are doing for this country, for all of us.
00:50:05.700
Uh, it's, uh, you're just, uh, you've been amazing throughout and we so appreciate it.
00:50:12.340
I want to say here as we conclude that, uh, God gave us in my belief, uh, free will.
00:50:23.500
And, uh, as Americans, we have to choose, uh, our, our, our constitution and we have to
00:50:34.080
And I hope everyone will our thanks again to Dr.
00:50:38.200
Malone for a great conversation for sharing his knowledge and his insights with us and for
00:50:43.580
all he's done to honor the American public's right to know, to know what our government
00:50:48.880
is doing for adding to the body of public knowledge and for what doctors do that is make us all
00:50:58.540
And I hope you'll join us here tomorrow when two leading Republicans will be here.
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Congressman Jim Jordan of Ohio and Congressman Louie Gohmert of Texas until then, God bless
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Join us again tomorrow for the great America podcast.
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Truth, justice, and the American way will prevail against all enemies, against all odds.