The Great America Show - ARE WE NEARING THE END OF THE PANDEMIC？

00:00:00.000 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Great America Podcast with Lou Dobbs,

00:00:04.200 always in the fight for truth, justice, and yes, our American way of life.

00:00:09.220 And now, here he is, the Peabody award-winning voice of truth, the great Lou Dobbs.

00:00:14.200 Hello, everybody, and welcome to the Great America Show.

00:00:17.180 Glad to have you with us, and we thank you for listening in.

00:00:20.500 I hope you and your family are well.

00:00:23.120 We all know we're living in troubled times, but it's important for all of us

00:00:27.160 to take notice of the good that also accompanies these times.

00:00:31.940 One of those good people is with us today.

00:00:34.700 He and a group of doctors all across the country have stood up to big government,

00:00:40.220 big pharma, and the political left.

00:00:42.820 And they have, with their knowledge and intelligence and courage,

00:00:47.940 shined bright lights on our public health system and political and medical establishments.

00:00:53.460 We'll be talking with Dr. Robert Malone about all these issues that arose from the pandemic,

00:00:59.680 everything from the role of the communist Chinese, virology and early treatment vaccine mandates,

00:01:06.100 and who should and should not be vaccinated.

00:01:10.160 Politicians, should they be acting as our doctors?

00:01:13.460 Big pharma, dictating public health policy?

00:01:16.560 He'll join us in just a moment.

00:01:18.160 No doubt we're in the middle of a mess these days, whether it's Putin invading Ukraine,

00:01:24.220 Xi threatening Taiwan, or Biden being our commander-in-chief.

00:01:29.020 Not good.

00:01:30.680 Biden's poll numbers continue to shrink.

00:01:34.000 Gallup has his approval rating at a flat 40%, the lowest ever in Gallup's polling,

00:01:40.100 which means that many of the Democrats who put this weak and frail man in the White House

00:01:45.320 are regretting what they've done to the country and you and me.

00:01:50.680 We've also lived through two years of the COVID virus pandemic, the China virus pandemic.

00:01:57.680 Nearly every family touched by the virus.

00:02:00.920 But the good news is we could be near the end of this pandemic.

00:02:05.700 Some of the best medical minds tell us our natural immunity is working and growing

00:02:10.900 and that the virus may be burning itself out.

00:02:14.500 We'll see.

00:02:15.940 And importantly, many of those doctors are saying straightforwardly that there is no medical

00:02:21.540 emergency now.

00:02:23.280 No reason for emergency actions to be invoked at all.

00:02:28.800 One of those doctors is himself an inventor of RNA vaccines.

00:02:33.740 Dr. Robert Malone is not only a brilliant doctor, but a courageous one and a great American.

00:02:39.180 And on top of all of that, Dr. Malone is one of my favorite guests, a brilliant man who's

00:02:45.100 done an immense public service throughout COVID.

00:02:50.480 Dr. Malone, welcome back to The Great America Show.

00:02:53.920 Great to have you with us.

00:02:55.640 It's my great pleasure, Lou, and an honor.

00:02:58.660 So thank you for the invitation.

00:03:00.860 Let me begin with what happened to COVID.

00:03:04.020 It's like someone threw a switch two weeks ago, and suddenly, Dr. Fauci isn't on a Sunday

00:03:11.780 talk show, and we're not hearing a lot from the White House about COVID or Omicron or any

00:03:21.620 variant.

00:03:23.080 We did hear, though, that his last words, I believe, from his last appearance were something

00:03:28.440 on the order, and Dr. Fauci said COVID isn't done with us yet.

00:03:32.860 Can you tell us what you think is going on here?

00:03:36.300 Yeah, and it's a little more complex than that because they're using the COVID to justify

00:03:44.660 a, illegitimately justify a national emergency so they can basically extend their war powers

00:03:52.080 and by continuing this national emergency for another 90 days, and that's what allows them

00:04:02.040 to invoke this Department of Homeland Security action where they're labeling the likes of

00:04:09.220 you and me because we're discussing things that might cause people to have some concerns

00:04:15.200 about their government.

00:04:16.620 That's now the definition of a domestic terrorist, apparently, according to Homeland Security.

00:04:21.180 Yeah, you're absolutely right.

00:04:24.560 But on the virus front, you may or may not recall because, you know, you're not as much

00:04:31.420 in the weeds as I am and all this.

00:04:33.540 I went on my friend Laura Ingram's show before Christmas, and I stuck my neck out like a chicken

00:04:42.100 on the chopping block, and I said, you know, Laura, this looks like this Omicron could be a

00:04:50.840 gift.

00:04:51.500 It could be a Christmas gift.

00:04:53.300 I remember that, by the way, vividly.

00:04:55.540 Well, thank you.

00:04:56.520 I heard a lot of people were a little surprised by that, according to Laura.

00:05:00.760 But it's played out exactly like I did.

00:05:06.980 And then we had this fascinating interview with Mr. William Gates, PhD, MD.

00:05:15.100 That was sarcasm, by the way.

00:05:18.640 It's so duly noted.

00:05:21.480 Just have to, you know, check in with some of us are a little impaired in that.

00:05:25.880 So Bill Gates' recent interview in which he expresses regret that, sadly, Omicron has acted

00:05:37.080 like a vaccine and has essentially created mucosal immunization for the whole world.

00:05:43.180 So I thought that was an amazing Freudian reveal from Mr. Gates.

00:05:50.880 I don't know why you would see this as a sad thing, but maybe it has to do with his economic

00:05:55.600 self-interest.

00:05:56.480 I am only speculating.

00:05:58.440 Well, there's plenty of that abroad in the world, isn't there?

00:06:01.260 Yeah, so what's happened is, as you've probably been tracking, because you are who you are,

00:06:10.740 on Worldometer or other things, and your audience can look for themselves.

00:06:14.660 They don't have to listen to me or you.

00:06:17.000 They can look up Worldometer on the World Wide Web.

00:06:20.960 Please use DuckDuckGo, not Google, for personal reasons.

00:06:27.380 But you can track there and look at your favorite country or your favorite state and see what's

00:06:36.200 happened with new cases with Omicron, and they've collapsed.

00:06:41.480 And furthermore, you know, there's, the data is coming out now about what's happened with

00:06:49.860 Omicron and its relationship to the vaccines or lack of vaccines.

00:06:55.400 Uh, we, we clearly have elicited strong, uh, natural immunity with this virus, right?

00:07:03.600 It's, it's quenched the circulation.

00:07:06.400 Anybody that went to a Christmas gathering, practically that I've ever talked to over the,

00:07:12.240 over, uh, um, the turning of the year has probably had the experience that, that, that many people

00:07:19.400 tell me, which is in their families, the vaccinated got, uh, Omicron easier than the unvaccinated.

00:07:26.840 And often they got it harder and the data are coming in, uh, supporting that.

00:07:31.300 So that's the, the worrisome thing that this is kind of looking.

00:07:36.560 It's got a lot of the signs that this may be showing signs of vaccine enhanced infection

00:07:42.880 and disease with Omicron, and hopefully we don't see another variant come out driven by

00:07:50.580 this, you know, rabid vaccinate everything kind of approach, uh, that will, will up the

00:07:58.780 ante on that.

00:08:00.120 But for right now, it looks like we have finally reached heart immunity, Tony Fauci, but not

00:08:06.820 through anything he did, uh, but through this, uh, crazy uncle virus that, uh, um, isn't,

00:08:16.000 isn't, uh, lethal like the prior ones, but is more highly infectious and seems to be generating

00:08:23.540 a good immune response in people.

00:08:25.260 Uh, that's, you've just described what happened in our family as well, uh, at Christmas, uh,

00:08:30.920 gathering, uh, and, uh, and mercifully.

00:08:34.300 And, uh, thank you, Lord.

00:08:36.200 Uh, nobody was seriously injured or seriously, uh, you had serious symptoms.

00:08:41.640 Uh, it was a peculiar, you know, delightful result, but everyone was, you know, of course,

00:08:46.920 amazed at that.

00:08:48.800 Yeah. 0.89

00:08:48.960 And, and, and who, who would have thunk that crazy, uh, that crazy guy that, uh, should

00:08:54.640 be not allowed to speak on Twitter or LinkedIn, uh, and, uh, should be, uh, his little three

00:09:02.580 hour chat with Joe Rogan should be censored forever, um, would have called it right.

00:09:07.760 Uh, it's, you know, I, I cannot imagine what in the world where this country, I could not

00:09:15.320 have imagined us going through a period like this in the United States of America, what

00:09:19.980 we have witnessed over these last couple of years has been something that was unthinkable

00:09:26.220 to most Americans and our reaction, uh, as a, uh, as a nation, uh, as a people, I would

00:09:34.300 never have thought Americans would stand for it.

00:09:36.680 I would have never thought that Americans would have, uh, taken this as it were lying

00:09:41.660 down.

00:09:42.140 Uh, and yet that is precisely what happened.

00:09:45.140 And thanks to you and other voices that, that bright, uh, knowledgeable and courageous,

00:09:53.680 uh, were able to penetrate what I believe at one time, uh, a very famous person referred

00:10:00.900 to as a mass, uh, a mass psychosis, uh, and it would be Joe Rogan, right?

00:10:07.940 I was thinking of you really, uh, it was amazing, uh, uh, to, to imagine this mass formation psychosis.

00:10:16.940 I believe, uh, on, on behalf Lou and behalf, now I'm being sincere, no sarcasm on behalf of

00:10:24.620 not just myself, but all my physician and scientist colleagues like peer Corey and Peter McCulloch and

00:10:33.000 Ryan Cole and, uh, Brian Tyson and George Farheed and Zev Zelenko and the list just goes on and

00:10:42.340 on and on, um, that have, have taken risk and, uh, and, and taken the hits.

00:10:51.600 Um, we're very grateful for your kind words.

00:10:54.420 I can speak for all of them and, uh, we're, by the way, Lou unified that this emergency is

00:11:02.860 over the 17,000 physicians and medical scientists that form the, uh, group behind global COVID

00:11:11.760 summit.com, uh, or global COVID summit.org.

00:11:16.860 Uh, this is the international Alliance of physicians and medical scientists.

00:11:21.340 It's 17,000 of us have been saying this needs to stop.

00:11:25.600 And now last night we put out a call that in, in, um, a press release stating there is no medical

00:11:34.420 emergency.

00:11:35.160 There is no reason for this emergency declaration and suspension of constitutional powers on the

00:11:42.840 part of the Biden administration for the next 90 days.

00:11:46.560 There is no medical emergency full stop.

00:11:49.740 That is a great proclamation, a great declaration, uh, to hear particularly from you.

00:11:57.520 Uh, and, and I think that people really have to understand, uh, if they do not already that

00:12:04.960 bill Gates is a lousy person to get medical, uh, analysis, uh, and diagnosis from, uh, and

00:12:13.200 as you say, I don't know what his incentives, his motivation is, but as you correctly, uh, put

00:12:18.860 it, uh, he, he, he, he acknowledged the reduced risk of COVID, but then quickly, uh, put forward

00:12:27.660 this addendum, which was, but another pandemic is coming.

00:12:32.680 Uh, why I would assume that that would be a safe forecast.

00:12:37.320 So long as you don't put a date with the, the outlook.

00:12:41.620 Well, well put my friend.

00:12:44.580 Um, yeah.

00:12:45.620 I mean, it's easy to predict that eventually we're going to have a dark winter.

00:12:49.520 Um, uh, that doesn't take any great, uh, insight.

00:12:53.740 Um, what a lot of people, of course, are spooked about is bill Gates fingerprints are all over

00:13:01.100 this thing on, and the, uh, event 201 and the planning and, uh, his amazing foresight in

00:13:10.960 investing in Pfizer and Moderna, um, and reaping the profits from that and many other similar

00:13:18.060 investments.

00:13:19.260 And I, I, people, you know, people like Zeb Zelenko that have been out ahead of the curve

00:13:24.900 are scared silly that Mr. Gates has got his fingers into more, um, uh, how shall I say

00:13:36.020 it?

00:13:36.240 Monkey business, um, uh, relating to other viruses.

00:13:40.740 Yeah.

00:13:42.120 And that is another issue.

00:13:43.800 And, uh, it is a big issue for big pharma, uh, because now we're seeing some, uh, peculiar

00:13:50.940 interaction and reactions, uh, from, uh, various public health agencies, as well as, as the

00:14:01.720 government itself, they, the FDA seems to be standing a little taller these days.

00:14:07.060 Is that my imagination?

00:14:08.580 They seem to be a little straighter than, uh, for example, the CDC.

00:14:13.180 Well, that's, that's, uh, an interesting comparison.

00:14:16.660 And that's, uh, that's a case of pot and kettle.

00:14:20.440 Um, uh, yeah.

00:14:23.000 So, so we had this truth bomb, uh, that this, that the New York times did their best to cover

00:14:31.120 up and, you know, released on the most optimal day they could, which was president's day.

00:14:37.100 I mean, they could have released it late Friday night, uh, but you know how journalism works.

00:14:42.560 Um, so they used to work.

00:14:45.040 Uh, yeah, right.

00:14:46.660 Um, so they, they dropped the New York times, uh, dropped this truth bomb, uh, you know,

00:14:53.940 that is, they've totally tried to spin, uh, on Monday, February 21 with the title, the

00:15:01.620 CDC isn't publishing large portions of the COVID data it collects.

00:15:06.380 Yeah.

00:15:07.080 Extraordinary.

00:15:07.800 And, and let me, let me just, you know, if I can, this is the New York times.

00:15:13.100 Okay.

00:15:13.660 Uh, they are the voice of the administration.

00:15:16.900 They are the voice basically of the world economic forum at this point.

00:15:21.000 Right.

00:15:21.760 And, and let me read it two full years into the pandemic, the agency leading the country's

00:15:26.940 response to the public health emergency has published only a tiny fraction of the data

00:15:31.700 is collected.

00:15:32.720 Several people familiar with the data said, and you know what that means.

00:15:36.440 They won't go on record.

00:15:37.440 Much of the withheld information could help state and local health officials better target

00:15:44.860 their efforts to bring the virus under control.

00:15:48.280 If that isn't a mic drop moment, I don't know what is.

00:15:52.180 Um, but then, then they go on, you know, this is the New York times quote, the CDC is a political

00:16:00.320 organization as much as it is a public health organization says Samuel Scarpino of Rockefeller

00:16:08.280 Foundation.

00:16:08.940 I mean, Rockefeller Foundation has been driving this, um, as, as a independent, uh, non-governmental

00:16:16.400 organization all the way through.

00:16:18.100 They are, are tight as ticks with the CDC, right?

00:16:23.920 Um, this guy, but apparently Samuel Scarpino is the only one willing to put his name to

00:16:29.740 this because the rest of them all running for cover.

00:16:32.720 Um, here's what he says further.

00:16:34.640 The steps that the CDC takes that it takes to get something like this release, that being

00:16:40.680 the data that they've been hiding are often well outside of the control of many of the scientists

00:16:46.800 that work at the CDC, what they're doing is they're throwing Rochelle Walensky under the 1.00

00:16:52.240 bus there and they are running for cover.

00:16:56.580 And I got, I got something to say.

00:16:59.720 It's time for CDC scientists and physicians to decide which side of the bar they want to

00:17:05.640 be on witness or defense, because that time is coming.

00:17:09.940 There will be legal ramifications here.

00:17:12.580 Now that's now that is, uh, you know, I hope true.

00:17:18.580 And I want to understand the context in which you mean it.

00:17:22.760 This is scientific fraud.

00:17:24.840 If I was to publish a paper, an epidemiology paper, and I had a bunch of data and I selected

00:17:33.500 to only publish the data, let's imagine I was sitting as a full professor at, uh, your

00:17:38.420 favorite university, whatever that is.

00:17:40.940 And I published a paper in a journal, um, that was epidemiology of, uh, COVID-19.

00:17:49.160 And I had a whole ton of data, but I decided to only select the data that I wanted to publish

00:17:55.560 to make a point that I wanted to make.

00:17:57.800 And I wrote that paper and published it.

00:17:59.880 That would be scientific fraud.

00:18:02.720 That is what it is.

00:18:04.120 It is fraud.

00:18:05.680 And I would, I could fully expect to have that paper pulled, um, to lose my future grant and

00:18:13.880 contract, uh, privileges with government and to lose my academic appointment for, for having

00:18:20.380 engaged in scientific fraud.

00:18:22.320 That is what this is.

00:18:25.540 Amazing.

00:18:26.340 And, and that litigation, who will bring it?

00:18:28.960 Um, I, I have the privilege of having, um, frequent communication with Senator Ron Johnson.

00:18:37.500 Right.

00:18:38.300 And if the, how, if the Senate flips, uh, Mr. Johnson is going to be in charge of the Senate

00:18:46.060 subcommittee for investigations.

00:18:48.880 Uh, and, uh, I generally don't, I, because I work with the government, I have to stay relatively

00:18:55.680 non-partisan historically, but as you know, this whole situation has flushed me out in

00:19:01.080 so many different ways.

00:19:02.840 And, uh, I, I firmly believe that if we're ever going to get to the bottom of this rot,

00:19:09.300 uh, it's Senator Johnson is the person right now.

00:19:14.220 I think it's his moment.

00:19:16.320 I'm, I'm looking forward to his chairmanship and also, uh, that of Senator Rand Paul, who

00:19:22.140 will, if, uh, again, as you say, the Republicans win the Senate back, uh, he will chair, uh,

00:19:29.620 the, uh, the Senate health committee.

00:19:31.880 So, and he has vowed, he has vowed to find Mr. Fauci.

00:19:37.140 The, the, both of them are pissed off for good reason.

00:19:42.000 What, what are my favorite legal terms, uh, that would be exactly right.

00:19:47.240 And, uh, who could blame them?

00:19:49.000 Certainly no one in the public who has been both, uh, you know, astonished with what we've

00:19:55.300 had to go through and then perplexed because we've had so much in the way of conflicting

00:20:00.300 information coming from our public health agencies, from our white house.

00:20:05.080 And, uh, of course, Dr. Fauci, uh, it is, it is, it still amazes me to think that were

00:20:13.520 it not for you, uh, McCullough, all the rest, uh, you know, this country would be, I don't

00:20:21.380 know where we'd be, uh, but we wouldn't be, uh, uh, in the middle of an information revolution

00:20:27.060 when it comes to COVID, uh, and public health mandates, uh, that are truly, uh, fiats from 0.78

00:20:33.940 the white house.

00:20:35.080 Yeah.

00:20:36.200 People more and more is like, cause I'm traveling all the time, Lou, it's driving us nuts.

00:20:40.640 It's just, uh, running us.

00:20:42.700 Our batteries are run out.

00:20:44.100 I've just backed from, uh, a teach-in in Boise and then another one in Washington state on

00:20:50.400 Puget sound.

00:20:51.640 Uh, but, um, you know, we're, we're in a situation where people, people are talking about a great

00:21:02.580 awakening.

00:21:03.460 Right.

00:21:03.900 Uh, and, um, uh, folks, uh, from the communities of faith are talking about it.

00:21:10.860 Intellectuals are talking about it.

00:21:12.920 Uh, but more and more folks are also seeing what we're up against.

00:21:18.020 And this is just a skirmish, uh, I'm honored to, you know, by your words and by the opportunity

00:21:25.280 to, to work with my colleagues in our fields.

00:21:29.700 But, uh, we're now, a lot of us are getting pretty woken up about, and I, you know, I, I,

00:21:37.320 I hesitate to use that term for obvious reasons, but, uh, we've had a 30 year effort by this

00:21:44.480 group called the World Economic Forum under the guidance of Mr. Klaus Schwab to, uh, train

00:21:51.060 and insert into all of the Western democracies, acolytes of his particular globalist vision.

00:22:00.260 And, uh, they are, I'm sorry to say, I've, as I've learned over time, it's, it's, um,

00:22:06.320 unfortunate.

00:22:07.940 They're embedded in both parties.

00:22:10.640 Absolutely.

00:22:11.300 And, and the commitment to Dr. Malone is referring to, uh, what sometimes is loosely referred to

00:22:18.520 as the one world, uh, governance, uh, that so many of these people seek, uh, and it goes

00:22:26.080 farther than that.

00:22:27.300 Uh, there is an authoritarian strain to it all.

00:22:31.160 And there is de facto an alignment with governments that, uh, I think most Americans would be very

00:22:38.740 uncomfortable about.

00:22:40.020 What do you think?

00:22:41.640 Uh, they have no respect for the constitution.

00:22:44.500 And I think that, that, uh, in, in, we can see it in what's happened to my unfortunate Canadian

00:22:52.720 colleagues.

00:22:54.280 Uh, you know, I, I have good friends on the other side of the border and we've been in

00:22:59.300 close contact and I've been actively supporting the Canadian truckers wherever I can.

00:23:04.780 You know, am I ever going to be able to go back across the border in Canada without having

00:23:08.640 my bank account seized?

00:23:09.900 I have no idea.

00:23:11.840 Um, you know, I hear these stories, uh, first person now, for instance, here's a good one 1.00

00:23:18.280 for you, Lou, a friend of mine is a pathologist on the other side of the border.

00:23:24.340 Uh, the, uh, Trudeau side will say, um, uh, called me the other day and he'd wanted me to

00:23:32.100 record a short video for him, me and Ryan Cole in support of the Canadian truckers for a pig

00:23:38.020 roast they were going to have at a farmer's place.

00:23:41.660 And the government in Canada heard that this farmer was going to have a pig roast in support

00:23:46.280 of the Canadian truckers and they froze his bank account.

00:23:49.940 Unbelievable.

00:23:51.400 They froze the banker.

00:23:52.880 They froze, I'm sorry, they froze the farmer's bank account.

00:23:55.360 The guy that was going to do the pig roast.

00:23:56.980 Right.

00:23:57.240 Um, it, it, and this is the same, this is under the, basically the same justification of emergency

00:24:05.540 powers, uh, that Mr.

00:24:07.960 Biden has now re-upped for the next 90 days.

00:24:12.900 Yeah.

00:24:14.740 And Trudeau has extended what were to be temporary powers under the emergency act.

00:24:20.300 Now this is, I must hasten to, uh, admonish, uh, all listening.

00:24:25.080 This is not the same as martial law.

00:24:27.840 Uh, this is something quite different.

00:24:29.940 This is just playing out totalitarianism, uh, raw, but without involving the military.

00:24:36.040 Uh, so if anyone wants to know the difference between the emergency act and the, uh, declaring

00:24:41.060 martial law, that's basically it, uh, to a broad point.

00:24:44.940 But, but Lou, in our case, we now have, uh, Mr. Biden and his administration have called

00:24:51.940 in the national guard into DC because they're cowering, uh, behind their fences because some

00:25:00.240 peaceful truckers have decided to leave Barstow today and drive over towards DC.

00:25:06.960 Yeah.

00:25:07.440 It's going to take them about 11 days to get there.

00:25:10.500 And meanwhile, they've got this fence up, which for all the world to many, it looks like

00:25:14.400 it's a rather permanent structure, uh, that's been put up, uh, around the Capitol.

00:25:19.100 Uh, it's, uh, this is stuff that is, uh, it looks like it is, uh, the, what would you

00:25:26.980 say?

00:25:27.160 The predicate for something more, there seems to be something more afoot on the part of

00:25:32.520 the government.

00:25:32.960 And it doesn't look like it is, uh, it doesn't look like democracy to me.

00:25:38.320 It doesn't look to me like, uh, those are public buildings, uh, as most Americans would

00:25:43.980 think of them, our buildings.

00:25:46.380 And we're looking at a potential, uh, I think inflection point in our history.

00:25:51.640 And we have to be very, very vigilant.

00:25:54.120 Thank you for saying that we're aligned.

00:25:57.880 Um, this is why the, uh, international, uh, Alliance of Physicians and Medical Scientists,

00:26:05.580 the 17,000 came out with their statement today on global COVID summit.org.

00:26:11.320 Uh, there is no medical emergency.

00:26:14.300 There is no justification for the suspension of the constitution and the emergency powers

00:26:20.180 that has been invoked.

00:26:22.120 Let me, let me also, let me bring this back for just a, uh, an interlude here to the virus

00:26:30.200 itself, because many of us are concerned and some, some confused.

00:26:35.160 Is it a wise thing that we give, uh, for example, Moderna, uh, Pfizer, the, the right,

00:26:44.940 if not the authorization, uh, and approval by the FDA, the right to vaccinate, uh, everyone

00:26:53.340 from infants to five-year-olds from five-year-olds to 11-year-olds, uh, when they are the least

00:27:00.280 vulnerable, uh, part of the population.

00:27:03.060 Well, you already know the answer.

00:27:06.400 Um, and the question, I, I got two questions for your audience.

00:27:10.400 Surely.

00:27:11.380 When are we going to stop letting the pharmaceutical industry dictate public health policy in the

00:27:16.340 United States?

00:27:17.920 And the second one is, are you okay with letting politicians be your doctor?

00:27:24.340 Because that's where we're at right now.

00:27:26.200 Yeah, that's well put and, uh, and, uh, and well-placed because the question, the questions

00:27:34.860 you ask are central to this and it is a political question as well as a public health question.

00:27:42.420 And I think that we all come to the same answer in this country.

00:27:45.660 I would hope we would, not all of us, but certainly a vast majority of us would come,

00:27:50.820 uh, to the same answer.

00:27:52.580 Those, those of us, it seems to be those of us that work with our hands do.

00:27:57.180 Um, those, the, the laptop class, I'm not so sure, but one of the things that unites truckers

00:28:04.800 and physicians and medical care providers is we actually work for a living.

00:28:09.080 Same with the folks that are moving boxes and Amazon and, uh, you know, stocking the shelves

00:28:17.360 and, uh, taking care of, uh, business in terms of police and firefighters and, uh, war fighters.

00:28:27.240 We've got, we've got a lot of people that actually work for a living.

00:28:32.180 And then we've got folks that, that, uh, you know, kind of email it in.

00:28:39.080 And, uh, and I, I'm sorry to say that, uh, the, uh, let's say the new school advocate

00:28:47.600 journalists are in that cast as well as the, um, workers at, uh, the likes of, uh, the big

00:28:55.940 tech companies.

00:28:57.500 You know, I hate to say it, Dr. Malone, but I think that those are not new school journalists.

00:29:02.100 I think what they are out and out corporate propagandists.

00:29:05.260 They are most of them employed by corporate news outlets.

00:29:08.520 They do exactly what they're told.

00:29:10.820 They have no volition.

00:29:12.140 They have no, uh, separate, uh, set of values, uh, that would command that they sacrifice,

00:29:18.300 uh, uh, their jobs, uh, or their, uh, reputation within the established corporate, uh, news media,

00:29:25.940 uh, for the truth.

00:29:27.920 And that's where we are right now.

00:29:29.920 Amen.

00:29:30.800 And everyone should be very frightened of that reality.

00:29:34.480 Yeah, it, it does.

00:29:36.600 It get, uh, again, I come down to those three words that ring like bells in the soul of honest

00:29:42.880 people, integrity, dignity, and community.

00:29:48.080 Amen.

00:29:49.500 Absolutely.

00:29:50.260 And so here we are with, uh, right now, big pharma dictating public health, and here we

00:30:00.600 are with politicians, uh, uh, deciding our fates within the, uh, you know, following the

00:30:07.400 science, quote unquote.

00:30:08.760 Yeah.

00:30:09.360 Uh, and, and, and exploring science for power.

00:30:13.200 Yeah.

00:30:13.940 And, and, and meanwhile, ignoring the scientists, the doctors, the researchers who are not, or

00:30:20.580 refusing to even publish the data so that we can do our job.

00:30:25.900 So where do we go from here with, to narrow this just a bit to the CDC?

00:30:30.960 How do we get all of that data in front of every, uh, doctor, every, uh, researcher, and

00:30:40.620 every, uh, person who is responsible for public health in one fashion or another, that would

00:30:46.740 be anyone from, uh, a doctor, a public agency, uh, it could be the superintendent of a school

00:30:52.820 for crying out loud.

00:30:53.840 Or, or, or school boards or governors that are having to make key decisions about public policy

00:31:01.120 and not to mention physicians, uh, and, and other public health officials.

00:31:08.780 Uh, I, how do we get there?

00:31:12.020 I'm, I'm as gobsmacked as you are that, uh, the centers for disease control and prevention

00:31:21.260 is now explicitly acknowledged as a political organization operating as a political arm of

00:31:30.820 the executive branch, but that's where we're at.

00:31:34.500 And, uh, and what, uh, you know, to, to call things the way they are to call it like I see

00:31:42.520 it, this is a failure of congressional oversight and, uh, they've allowed the CDC and the

00:31:51.240 so I've been, Lou, I've been having, as, as this time has progressed and I'm being seen

00:31:58.460 as a voice, uh, because of my being willing to speak truth, uh, a lot of folks that are

00:32:09.880 involved in public policy have been coming to me.

00:32:12.240 And, uh, uh, what I'm hearing is the development of, uh, activities in think tanks, particularly

00:32:21.900 in conservative think tanks, anticipating a turnover at the next election at the midterms

00:32:27.600 and at the presidential election and trying to think through how did we let things go so

00:32:35.020 wrong during the Trump administration.

00:32:36.640 And what I'm hearing is that one of the things that happened was that there was a belief that

00:32:44.620 you could change the bureaucracy and get things on track with, uh, making the right appointments

00:32:52.900 at the top, uh, three or four tiers.

00:32:55.840 And they now see many of these people are now clearly aware that you have gotten entrenched

00:33:04.020 bureaucracy when you, we use terms like the deep state, but a entrenched bureaucracy that

00:33:10.900 does not have the interest of the American people, uh, in, in its, you know, in, uh, in

00:33:17.380 its focus and, uh, uh, which is completely refractory to, uh, change from the executive branch.

00:33:25.080 And, uh, if you want to see the indictment papers, you got to read a book called the real

00:33:31.560 Anthony Fauci by the, uh, brilliant lawyer, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

00:33:37.220 Who has basically written an indictment for this gentleman and an indictment of the whole

00:33:42.520 system in this book.

00:33:44.360 And you're, you're exactly right, uh, in talking about the deep state, uh, there are people who

00:33:52.300 have hesitated because when you use the expression deep state, they think that you're somehow talking

00:33:57.820 about, uh, conspiracies, uh, and, uh, you know, nonsense, the deep state is reality.

00:34:06.000 Uh, the pure, the permanent bureaucracy is too nice a term.

00:34:09.880 It is hardly sinister enough, uh, to connote what is the reality within our government.

00:34:17.140 Uh, and you're, and you're right.

00:34:19.020 That isn't just the first two or three layers of any, uh, one of the agencies or departments.

00:34:25.240 It is, uh, it is a bureaucracy, a deep state that is, is absolutely pervasive, uh, vertically,

00:34:35.500 horizontally, in every way and every fashion through the federal government in particular,

00:34:40.460 but that also, I agree.

00:34:42.180 And a lot of people, when they hear that term, they think the intelligence community,

00:34:45.680 but the intelligence community is just one facet.

00:34:51.200 They're, they're the most empowered.

00:34:54.780 I would say because they're first closeted.

00:34:57.540 Uh, and secondly, there is no oversight, no matter what anyone wants.

00:35:01.820 Well, and they have a black, they have a black budget, so they can basically do whatever

00:35:06.020 they want to do.

00:35:07.320 There are two, there are two people who two sorts of people who knew when the Wuhan virus

00:35:14.520 was unleashed on the world by the Chinese, uh, with foreknowledge and without warning that 1.00

00:35:20.940 knew that China, Xi Jinping was morally and ethically responsible for the murders of millions 0.91

00:35:29.460 of people around the world.

00:35:31.420 They were our intelligence agencies and they were our public health agencies.

00:35:36.060 They both knew, uh, do you disagree with my, my view?

00:35:40.440 I completely concur.

00:35:42.000 And the data are coming out to further validate that almost on a daily basis now.

00:35:48.560 Um, and there was another one today.

00:35:51.060 It's not just in the U S um, Canada and France are involved also.

00:35:55.560 I think it was the globe and mail or something like that that just came out with another piece

00:35:59.480 today, um, with another reveal this, this, what, you know, we, those of us that care and

00:36:08.840 are paying attention, um, and are, are seeing this beast as I am really for the first time.

00:36:16.500 I mean, the last two years have been an amazing road, uh, but we got, for all of us, for all

00:36:24.200 of us.

00:36:24.440 Yeah.

00:36:25.360 Wow.

00:36:25.760 What a wake up call.

00:36:27.460 I, I want to go to China and its accountability, but I want to, I just want to first tell you

00:36:35.480 how awful that, uh, uh, pervasive, uh, uh, secret power is within world agencies as well.

00:36:45.620 The world health organization, most people would be surprised to learn, uh, is heavily

00:36:51.040 under the influence of the CCP.

00:36:53.120 The Chinese government have, uh, personnel placements.

00:36:57.560 Uh, the place is riddled, uh, with, uh, CCP agents, uh, and, uh, and that's not an exaggeration.

00:37:05.620 It's not over.

00:37:06.780 I can tell you from first, I can tell you from first person experience the way the WHO works.

00:37:12.600 I've been there way too many times.

00:37:14.340 I've seen it in play.

00:37:16.340 Great.

00:37:17.480 Please.

00:37:18.000 Well, so they, they basically, they think they don't have enough money.

00:37:24.780 And, uh, for a while, the building was getting a little thin in terms of personnel.

00:37:30.400 And, uh, so what they started to do, it's not just CCP, but it's also pharma.

00:37:36.720 So for instance, when we had the Ebola vaccine, uh, rush, uh, when I was supporting the department

00:37:42.820 of defense in that, uh, um, the company that I was supporting new link genetics, which was

00:37:50.160 the one that had the vaccine that got sold to Merck and became the Merck vaccine originally

00:37:54.680 came from Canada.

00:37:56.180 Um, we presented to the WHO.

00:37:59.260 I was there.

00:38:00.660 Um, and, uh, and there was a lot of churn that GSK was going to beat.

00:38:07.660 They had the best vaccine, et cetera.

00:38:10.340 And, uh, the punchline was we ended up with the best vaccine, uh, even though it surprised

00:38:15.520 everybody.

00:38:16.620 And when that became clear, the director general came up to us.

00:38:20.700 I was there.

00:38:21.620 I heard it.

00:38:22.880 And she basically, um, told new link that they needed to pony up and, uh, provide funding

00:38:33.820 for the WHO to hire additional personnel.

00:38:37.560 The way they play the game is if you, it's pay to play.

00:38:41.680 If you want access and you want a seat at the table, you got to pony up and that's how

00:38:48.240 big pharma gets in there.

00:38:49.860 And then that's also how all the nation states do.

00:38:54.600 And it, like I say, it's pay to play.

00:38:57.140 That's how they work.

00:38:58.080 And, uh, if you are a pharmaceutical entity and I could name names, uh, what, what you

00:39:05.860 got to do is you pay for a full-time employee and that person works at the WHO and is basically

00:39:15.320 your spy, um, is your agent working at the F at the WHO, sitting at a desk, doing their

00:39:22.080 daily job, but also well aware that they're being paid by your money and, uh, and they

00:39:30.220 represent your interests as, as fill in the blank pharma and the same game is played by

00:39:37.520 the various, uh, um, national interests.

00:39:41.800 And we knew it.

00:39:43.320 I mean, I can tell you in my world, it's long been known that the WHO is, uh, absolutely a

00:39:51.260 vehicle for intelligence operations and influence.

00:39:55.460 Right.

00:39:55.700 But what happened was, uh, during the Trump administration, for whatever reason, I guess

00:40:00.880 he got pissed off and for good reason, I can't blame him for that, but he withdrew the capital

00:40:06.000 and, and, you know, nature of poor is a vacuum.

00:40:10.500 And, uh, and the CCP just said, well, thank you very much.

00:40:15.080 Uh, and by the way, that's also how come we have Mr. William Gates, MD, PhD in there is

00:40:23.180 because, uh, you know, we didn't, there wasn't enough capital.

00:40:27.200 And so he filled the vacuum and he, you know, a lot of people in my world think that he's

00:40:32.160 the one that appointed Tedros.

00:40:34.080 Well, Tedros, uh, is a man who, uh, sat at the knee.

00:40:38.960 I'll put it that way of Xi Jinping, uh, and did so, uh, highly publicly, uh, he did everything

00:40:46.260 but, uh, salute, uh, publicly Xi Jinping.

00:40:50.560 I, I, I will tell you, uh, very quickly, uh, something that happened in the early days

00:40:55.660 of the, of the pandemic, uh, it was not called a pandemic as you know, for a number of weeks.

00:41:02.300 And I finally, uh, decided I would declare a pandemic on my show.

00:41:08.380 Uh, and, uh, that night I said, and this is two weeks before the WHO ultimately declared

00:41:17.520 it was a pandemic and the CDC refused to call it a pandemic until the WHO would call it a

00:41:24.000 pandemic.

00:41:25.120 And so I declared it a pandemic because at that point, I believe it was in 13 countries.

00:41:30.820 Uh, it was straightforward and I am not a person, as you might guess, who will put up with nonsense

00:41:37.380 when it comes to objective truth.

00:41:39.880 And I just did that.

00:41:42.460 I was, there was a, an, an amazement that I would do that without the WHO telling me it

00:41:50.880 was okay.

00:41:51.460 Or the CDC, I should have understood right then what we were up against.

00:41:57.140 Uh, but I did not fully appreciate, uh, the connection between the WHO, uh, the Chinese,

00:42:06.420 uh, communist party, uh, and for that matter, what you described in the way the WHO works,

00:42:12.320 I didn't know whether you're talking about the Chinese money flowing to the WHO or whether

00:42:17.260 you're talking about big pharma money that flows to Congress, because it's the same process.

00:42:21.520 Yep.

00:42:22.800 You got it.

00:42:25.000 And with that, I, uh, I just, I know that we've, uh, because you've lighted the path in

00:42:33.120 front of us.

00:42:33.760 I know we've got uphill work to do and it's going to take a lot to get this situation.

00:42:38.980 I, I don't, I gotta tell you, Lou, I'm, I, uh, this is a skirmish.

00:42:44.540 We've got a big battle and I don't know if we're going to win it.

00:42:48.060 Um, they are, they've been going at this for decades and they are well entrenched.

00:42:54.720 And, uh, like for instance, there was somebody, a conservative in, in, uh, the Canadian government

00:43:02.060 that tried to confront Justin Trudeau about how many world economic forum, uh, um, trainees

00:43:09.340 he had in his, uh, cabinet and, uh, they wouldn't let him talk.

00:43:15.260 They, they wouldn't let the person asking the question, finish asking the question.

00:43:20.500 Amazing.

00:43:21.440 Let, let alone address them.

00:43:23.420 They wouldn't even allow the question to be raised where we're unfortunately pretty well

00:43:30.080 down the slippery slope.

00:43:31.420 Uh, we're going to let me, let me add to, uh, everyone's appreciation of the Greece, uh,

00:43:39.040 that's on that slope.

00:43:39.960 Uh, that's when the United States Supreme court rejects a challenge to the main COVID vaccine

00:43:47.420 mandates.

00:43:48.780 It is the second rejection of plaintiffs who were seeking religious exemption.

00:43:55.380 And for what reason, in my view, pure and simple intellectual dishonesty and a lack of moral

00:44:05.120 courage and, uh, and an absolute abdication of their constitutional responsibility.

00:44:11.920 I thought you were going to say a lack of moral turpitude.

00:44:15.080 Um, uh, if I'd have thought of it, I would have.

00:44:19.780 Yeah, no, we got a problem.

00:44:21.280 Uh, and, um, uh, increasingly I'm hearing the words, this is a 1776 moment.

00:44:30.260 And, uh, uh, like I said about those CDC scientists that aren't willing to, to share their name.

00:44:38.280 Um, you know, you gotta, it's time to figure out which side of the bar you're going to stand

00:44:43.000 on.

00:44:43.200 Yeah, absolutely.

00:44:44.800 And, and, uh, you know, you're the, you know, there's, I, this, the phrase,

00:44:51.280 uh, the tree of Liberty is watered with the blood of patriots.

00:44:54.180 I, I, I don't want to imply that people ought to get into a shooting war, but I absolutely

00:45:01.260 want to message that, um, you know, you can stand with freedom or not.

00:45:08.180 It's your choice.

00:45:09.480 It is absolutely a choice.

00:45:11.260 I prefer to be free.

00:45:12.860 Uh, in case you didn't guess that.

00:45:14.580 I have, I have, uh, inferred that, uh, and I, uh, am very proud of you for, uh, putting

00:45:22.540 forward, uh, the statement because it is really true.

00:45:25.640 Uh, people must, you know, there's a lot of wokeness going around, but what we need as

00:45:30.680 an awakening, uh, and I, and I stand with you, I stand with the doctors with whom you're

00:45:36.620 associated who have done so much to, uh, to enlighten the, uh, the public, uh, I, my job

00:45:43.640 is a host of, uh, this great America show is to help, uh, enlarge the body of public knowledge

00:45:52.060 and honor the public's right to know.

00:45:54.840 And I, and I hate to say it this way, but I, I am going to insist because there is such

00:45:59.500 a responsibility.

00:46:01.000 People keep talking about our God given rights, uh, here.

00:46:05.380 Uh, I believe that the United States is providential, that we, our founders were inspired by God,

00:46:11.460 but these are American rights that we enjoy.

00:46:14.600 These are American rights that are not shared by any other country, including our, our brothers

00:46:20.240 and sisters to the North and our brothers and sisters to the South, to the South is Mexico,

00:46:25.100 which is a narco state.

00:46:26.600 And to the North, they appear to be an emerging totalitarian state.

00:46:32.000 If Justin Trudeau has his way, Joe Biden is his mentor and that is his way as well, but

00:46:39.280 it's not the American way.

00:46:40.680 And I truly believe we will prevail, but as long as we can be as honest as Dr. Robert

00:46:47.220 Malone, as long as we can be energetic and defensive, the truth, uh, and enlarging the

00:46:53.420 body of public knowledge, we will prevail.

00:46:56.500 So I'm going to give you the last word, Dr. Malone, take it away.

00:47:02.020 Oh, thanks Lou.

00:47:03.560 Uh, this has been a good chat we've had.

00:47:06.620 Uh, um, I, I, I do think that it is time that we make it clear and stand with the truckers.

00:47:16.260 This is a peaceful protest and the physicians stand aligned with the truckers that, uh, at

00:47:24.920 least the physicians I represent that there is no medical emergency here.

00:47:29.540 And the emergency declaration that Mr. Biden has just, uh, announced is needs, needs to come

00:47:38.780 down and the people that can bring it down and stop it is the Senate and the house. 0.96

00:47:46.120 And I believe strongly they have an obligation to do so.

00:47:50.660 What happened last Wednesday, in my opinion, was cowardice.

00:47:54.540 We had four key Republican senators at a time when they could have voted down the mandates. 0.62

00:48:00.280 And what they did was they jumped into their jet planes and went off to Europe and back to

00:48:05.480 their States without taking a vote.

00:48:08.000 I want to give special credit to, uh, to Mitt Romney and Lindsey Graham, uh, for being

00:48:15.140 feckless and gutless, uh, and dishonorable.

00:48:18.880 Thank you. 0.98

00:48:20.040 Uh, we're aligned.

00:48:21.740 Um, so, uh, you know, we got to call it out and, um, and it's a time of choosing and, uh,

00:48:32.900 it's time of choosing for all kinds of people in different ways.

00:48:36.640 Uh, and, um, and the, the, the docs that I represent stand with the truckers, uh, we're all

00:48:48.120 working people.

00:48:49.680 Uh, we got to put on our pants and go to work and get the job done.

00:48:53.560 Um, and, uh, we are sick and tired and I can tell you that the department of defense, our

00:49:00.220 war fighters are sick and tired and our firefighters and, um, our policemen and, um, all of our,

00:49:10.380 the folks that work for a living are just tired of this funky business that I know.

00:49:15.380 Um, the pilots, um, I couldn't, I'm just amazed at the support I'm getting from airline personnel

00:49:22.660 when I travel.

00:49:23.860 Sure.

00:49:24.360 Um, we all know that this is wrong.

00:49:26.540 It has to stop.

00:49:27.800 The time is now there is no medical emergency.

00:49:31.980 There is no justification for suspending the constitution, uh, right at this point in time.

00:49:39.520 And frankly, there's no justification for bringing in the national guard to protect Mr.

00:49:46.920 Biden from a rally of peaceful truckers voicing their, uh, constitutional rights to free speech.

00:49:55.300 Well said, Dr. Malone, uh, I couldn't, uh, agree more.

00:50:00.740 I thank you for everything that you are doing for this country, for all of us.

00:50:05.700 Uh, it's, uh, you're just, uh, you've been amazing throughout and we so appreciate it.

00:50:12.340 I want to say here as we conclude that, uh, God gave us in my belief, uh, free will.

00:50:21.340 And that means the choice is ours.

00:50:23.500 And, uh, as Americans, we have to choose, uh, our, our, our constitution and we have to

00:50:30.980 choose our obligation and meet it.

00:50:34.080 And I hope everyone will our thanks again to Dr.

00:50:38.200 Malone for a great conversation for sharing his knowledge and his insights with us and for

00:50:43.580 all he's done to honor the American public's right to know, to know what our government

00:50:48.880 is doing for adding to the body of public knowledge and for what doctors do that is make us all

00:50:56.420 better.

00:50:57.240 Thank you for being with us.

00:50:58.540 And I hope you'll join us here tomorrow when two leading Republicans will be here.

00:51:02.840 Congressman Jim Jordan of Ohio and Congressman Louie Gohmert of Texas until then, God bless

00:51:10.740 you and God bless America.

00:51:13.640 Join us again tomorrow for the great America podcast.

00:51:16.820 Stay in the fight.

00:51:17.760 Truth, justice, and the American way will prevail against all enemies, against all odds.

The Great America Show - February 24, 2022

ARE WE NEARING THE END OF THE PANDEMIC？

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